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Speaker 3 (00:54):
Hello and welcome to another edition of the GB America Podcast.
I'm your host Steven Gunn, and I had with me
today a double feature treat. I have my wife, doctor
Rebecca gun with me in the studio here we're right
next to each other, and a special treat here. And
then we have our guest today who has the same
(01:15):
last name as us. We're trying to figure out the
connectional family. But we have author, speaker podcast host Robin
Jones gun with us, and we're so glad to have
you on the podcast.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Robin, Well, thank you. I was looking forward to this
because you may tell the listeners that we met quite
a few years ago and I've seen each other a
couple times, and as Stephen said, we're sure we're related
somehow down the line. We just haven't figured it out yet.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
That's right, that's right. You know, this journey has definitely
been one for me. I grew up, grew up since
meet my wife and us talking and dating and throughout
think I always heard about Robin his author, you know,
Robin Jones Gun and so we had the treat of
meeting back in twenty fourteen. It's been longer than I
thought it had, and so it's been such a treat
(02:02):
to see that journey start there and also going with that.
And now it'll come full circle and we'll get into
this more, but come full circle conversations of our daughter
pulling into the mix of that learning and growing and
christ like hunger for reading, and I just think it's
so neat and that's such a special, special thing. So
(02:22):
we're excited. So would you like to start us off
with the first question. I'll let you go when we
started off.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
Okay, cool question you get to ask.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Okay, that's true. That's right. I like that. So you know,
I know a little bit. I know and research a
little bit here is that your journey has been of
authorship has been very intertwined and connected with the family experiences.
And so share a little bit just kind of some
pivot moments of how that the journey started of even
being an author. And I know that's that's a special
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story right there. But from there and then maybe fast
forward to how we got from there to hear well.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
I really didn't grow up things I would be a writer.
I wasn't one of those girls who in second grade
started writing stories. But I was always telling stories. And
I did write a few things here and there. And
it wasn't until after my husband, Ross and I had
been married almost five years, and he said, you have
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to go to a class or a conference or something
and develop this gift for writing. And he signed me
up and paid for me to go to a weekend
writers conference. I was so mad because I thought I
am going to be so embarrassed, but I came home saying,
you were right. I met my people, and I want
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to do this. And I wrote a devotion that was
published in the Upper Room magazine Little you Know Devotional,
and they paid me ten dollars and I realized I
am a published author. So I just started writing more articles,
and I did interviews and devotions, and then when our
kids were little, I wrote children's books. There were fourteen
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of those that were all published, which was kind of
amazing back in the day. But then it was a
real turning point. On a camping trip. My husband was
a youth pastor and we'd taken all the kids on
a week long trip to the beach in southern California,
and all these girls were in the tent reading all
week long. And I went in the tent and said,
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come on, there's surf and sand and boys and just
outside there. They said, we'd rather just stay in here
and read about surf and sand and boys. So I
read the books with them, and they were only thirteen.
I was just so concerned because I didn't agree with
the messages that they were putting in their young hearts.
And I just said, does your mother know this is
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what you're reading? And they said, we just go to
the library and check out whatever we want. So they
challenged me and said, if you don't want us reading
these books and give us something else to read, and
I I tried to find books that were right for
their age group that had all the elements they wanted,
couldn't find any. They then challenged me again and said,
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why don't you write for us? And I took it
seriously that this was something we could do together. So
every week I would read a chapter to the girls
in my Sunday school class, and they'd tell me everything
I did wrong and everything that had to be changed.
And I keep rewriting. And the first Christy Miller book
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was rejected ten times by publishers. They all said, we
just don't see a market for books like this. And
I wanted to say, well, go look in the tent,
look in your daughter's bedroom, look at what she's reading.
And it was focused on the family magazine or publishers
that had just started publishing, and they picked up the
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first Christy Miller book. And within three weeks we had
the first letter from a reader who said, when I
was reading in the book where Christie realized she'd never
given her life to the Lord, I realized I haven't either,
and I prayed for it along with her. I gave
my heart to Jesus. Wow, and that was the first letter,
and I've received hundreds, maybe thousands of notes like that
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over the years, so that the books then we knew
needed to continue. We needed to keep writing these wholesome
role model stories that could get into the hands and
the hearts of these young girls. And God has blessed
the Christy Miller books. They've been translated in other languages,
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and so yeah, and that's how Rebecca and I connected
through those characters.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
That is, I found my first Christy Miller book. I
think I was in seventh grade. I found it wandering
in the library and rest's history and seventh grade seventh
grade me would be like really geeking out right now
that I'm getting attack to you. But I'm so thankful
that it finally got accepted by that next publisher and
(07:05):
for all those girls and the tent telling you to
keep going after it, and now you have what do
you what book number is this one?
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Do you know how many I know I'm putting on
the spot.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
I'm like, I think it's one hundred and six.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
That is amazing. That is so amazing, Oh so amazing.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
I know.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
One of the things that I really appreciated, you know,
starting with the Christy Miller books, and then going on
through the Sierra Jensen and then the college years, and
just going on through all of them. Is that I
was always around that same age group of the characters
that you were writing about, and now now I'm these
ages having this one. But it's so it's so fun
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just to kind of reconnect with your writing style and
even the little easter eggs that you put in there
with characters from other.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Series. And I know that this book has especially.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
Meaning for you, significant meaning for you because it takes
place in Africa, and I know that has holds a
really important and special place for you in your heart.
I do want to share a little bit about why
you chose to write about Africa with the Tea with Elephants.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Well, it had long been in my heart to go
to Africa because when I was growing up and I
didn't know what I wanted to be when I grew up,
I thought the most wonderful thing would be if I
could be a missionary and go to some remote place
in the world and tell people about God's love. And
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so Africa of course was the place to go, and
I applied to go and serve with this mission organization
The only opening that they had in Kenya was to
be a laundry supervisor, and I was turned down. I
didn't have the necessary talent. When you're twenty twenty one
(09:04):
years old and you can't even go wash clothes for
Jesus in Africa, I don't have any gifts or any
special abilities here, and how can I serve the Lord?
And then I realized, over the years of spending more
time with teaching Sunday school and being around young girls
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and telling them stories and teaching the Bible to them,
that that was really what I was gifted and called
to do, and so that it flowed naturally into telling
stories in books and writing more and more books. And
years later I was invited to teach at a conference
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in England. I mean, when you write enough books, people
think you know what you're doing. Please come to England
and teach us how to write books. And at lunch
I met a young woman sitting at the table after
everyone else left. She said, I wanted to tell you
that I grew up reading your books and because of them,
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I want to go into publishing books. And her name
take was Wambora. And I said, where are you from?
And she said, Nairobi, Africa, you know Kenya. And I said,
you know, when I was your age, I thought I
was going to go to Africa and be a laundry supervisor.
Why And I told her my story. I just thought
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that was the best way I could serve God. And
she said to me, you did not need to come
to Africa to wash our laundry. You sent your stories
and God used them to wash our hearts. And that's
what I knew. That's that's what I was made to do.
Years after that, she and I remained friends, and I
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was invited to speak at another conference in Africa in Kenya,
and Wambora invited me to come day with her. We
had such a great time. She took me to a
hotel up in the treetops on Mount Kenya, and there's
a big watering hole and at four o'clock you can
go to the very top of this treetop hotel and
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they come and serve you with silver tea service in
teacups and you look down. And we sat there, she
and I we put scarfs on and threw them around
our necks and had tea with elephants. And when we
were talking, she said, you remember that title, You're going
to want to make a book about that someday. And
I was really privileged to go to Kenya a second time,
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and that time, Wambura and some of our other friends,
we all went on a safari. So that's why Tea
with Elephants had to become a book someday. And it
now is just came out two months ago, and yeah,
I poured into it my deep affection for Kenya and
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wrote about characters who were realizing that they had to
get away from their schedule and their routines at home
to really see what God was doing in their lives.
Because I find that often happens when you travel, You
get out of the routine and God just shows you
new things.
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Speaker 3 (14:19):
So I'm curious as an author, like you said, you've
you've learned over the years to write a few books
over one hundred books there. So what has what have
you found from writing style in terms of how you
approach the process of writing. Has that been something that
is it more of a spontaneity thing. Do you have
like a theme of you know, you want to go
down this road with this character or this this subject
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line the title even and that you try to develop
that or is it more have you been just curious
can what does that look like for you?
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Well, I'm very character driven because I want to tell
their stories and I want to get to know them.
So my process over the years has been the same,
and it's started with the very first trying to come
up with the character Todd in the Christy Miller series.
I was going through surfer magazines and I saw this
picture of this blonde surfer boy with these bright, screaming
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silver blue eyes and cut him out and put him
on a piece of paper and I looked at him
and said, Hi, my name's Robin. What's your name? And
he said, Tod Todd Spencer. Oh okay, write that down,
just you know, your imagination things in and then I
always like, come up with just three things. What's your name?
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Tell me something unique about you? And he said, oh,
I'm allergic to beastings Like, oh okay, that'll come in later.
And then I said, and what's your problem? Because you
can't have fiction unless you have friction, So every character
I want to know what's going on. And he said, well,
my parents are divorced and I'm not sure which one
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I'm going to live with, Like okay, So then I
knew i'd put him in a binder, and then I
developed all the other characters, found pictures of them, and
I still do that, so it's kind of like paper
dolls or you know, I'm very visual. So I put
it all together. And then the very first thing I
do before I start writing is I sit down and
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take a pen to paper, and I write out a prayer,
and I dedicate myself to the Lord, and I ask him,
you know, please, may I have another story and just
pray for the readers. Every time, I just write out
a prayer that the story that would be something specific
that would get to the person who needs to hear that,
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and that it would draw them closer to the Lord's
That's always my prayer, that my stories would draw the
reader closer to the heart of God. So and then
I just start writing. I kind of know sometimes what
I mean. I know the location and I know the
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like the characters, but I don't always know how it's
going to end or what's going to happen. My editors crazy, sometimes,
you know, you could rewrite. I read write a lot.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Tell us more, tell us more. I'm just working on it.
I'm still in process. Give me a little bit here,
that's great. Now, I know a lot of your early
ones were set in Hawaii. I guess you were because
you lived lived there for a bit.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
Well that was book number five of the Christina series.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Well, so there you go. This is where it starts us.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
It's like, technically it takes place in southern California because
that's where I was from when I found the book,
and so I thought it was really interesting too, just
because you know, she had moved to California, and then
I moved away from California and that was right around
the time of the year Jensen then the movie. Anyway,
we're going down that road for a minute. I wanted
to go back to the Team with Elephants for a
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minute because I really I just aside from bringing in
different aspects and things from other series, it's always fun
to read about. And I'm not gonna say what they
are so that your readers can find out what those are,
but I did. I just really appreciated about just the
gift of friendship that you bring in with the two
main characters, and just seeing what that friendship the ebb like,
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the ebbing and the flowing of just their friendship from
when they were teens to now adults and kind of
how that shifts over time, and then also just the
realities of love and of life really that take place
during the story.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
And I really.
Speaker 6 (18:34):
I I always love reading and it was really neat
hearing about how you named Todd from the Christy Miller
series and then looking at you know, one of your
character's names. Here comes or you kind of refer to
the to the word I believe it's fern with am
I saying that correct?
Speaker 5 (18:52):
Is that been?
Speaker 9 (18:52):
Like?
Speaker 5 (18:53):
I'm really curious how you Like.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
I had never heard that word before until I read
it in this and I love the definition, But tell me,
I'm really curious if you can remember like when you
heard it or like how it resonated with you, because
I was like, Wow, this is such a really neat word,
and I how does she know these words? How does
she find these things out? So feel free to share
a little bit about that.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
It was good old social media. I was following a
friend and that I had known for a long time
but hadn't connected with her, and clicked on her profile
and she said faith, family and fern way and I thought,
who's for? So I had to look it up and
it's Friendway is the longing to travel to faraway places.
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And I thought, oh, that's me. I love that, and
I loved that that was part knowing her. Yep, that's
that's part of her whole life. So I thought, see,
that's the thing about writing, too. It's like you're always
running around with a butterfly net, just catching these butterflies
and putting them in your collection, so that some day
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these little words or pieces or characters. And I thought
about after I was saying how Todd, I did cut
out a picture of Todd as I said, that is true.
But what's also true is that I originally named him
Ron and the girls in the youth group said, oh no, no, no, no,
his name's Todd. When they saw the picture, They're like no,
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they so, yep, again write. There's always creative writing. There's
always changes.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
That is. That is great. So now your books, how
many series have you done? I know there's and we're
becoming able to answer this, how many different series has
there been throughout this?
Speaker 4 (20:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
Okay, okay, I'm like right now, well, okay, I'll just
say it this way.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
The Christy Miller collection has the high school years, the
college years, the Marriagers Baby. Then there's the haven Maker
series about Christy and Sierra when they're a little bit
older in their thirties and you know, late twenties and thirties.
And then the glen Brook series, which the first Glenn
Brook book was made into a Hallmark movie, well very
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loosely based on the book. But then there's a Sister
Chick series, and now I'm doing the Suitcase Sister series,
the Father Christmas series and those were made into three
Hallmark movies. Yeah, it was anyway, keeping count, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
How many of it, That's okay. I just was curious
because I just think that's unique to to be able
to do the series like that. I think that was
my point was more or less.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
There were like there were a few other ones too,
because I think they're like, was it the Cottage by
the Sea?
Speaker 5 (21:45):
Is that what series is?
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Yes?
Speaker 9 (21:46):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (21:47):
And then the one the Hideaway series and yeah series
Katie Weldon series.
Speaker 9 (21:54):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
I just don't want to say goodbye to my imaginary friends.
I'd guess.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Well, but I love that because I think there's something
to be said about the like bringing it into it,
like you said, a collection. But then the collection encompasses
a certain number of you know, the journey along the way,
and different different parts and pieces of that. And I
think how often we look at our lives and go,
you know what, like there is a work you know
before the name of us is our collection. But yet
where there's different seasons, they'll be walked through, different parts
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and different times of how we approach things, we learn lessons,
We have different collections of friendships, of broad God brings
into our lives, and like you said, I don't want
to let go, but maybe they're not quite as much
in our lives. And so I think that's something special
about that. And I love now that I've read the
books myself. I love the.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
I know I'm going to have to get on. I
know we have like all of them at home.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Yeah, I love that, and I really do. And actually
we as a fairby we sit down a lot of times.
She'll be like, we're gonna have girls time, We're gonna
watch Homemark movie, and I'm like, I want to watch
with you guys. You know, so we're.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
Have you watched the one that?
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Yeah? So, which which segues to our next question. My
next question at least was what was the process like
of those movie those books becoming movies and how you
know what was to takeaways from that that process.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
I love telling this story because it's just it's just
a God story all the way through. And I actually
wrote a very little book, it's ebook. It's one hundred
pages long, called How My Book Became a Movie, so
you can go to Amazon and how my Book and
it's kind of one hundred pages tells the story because
the short version is that after I wrote Finding Father Christmas,
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which was a contract from a publisher, would you write
a Christmas novella? Sure? How fun came quickly?
Speaker 10 (23:48):
Was not a.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Romance, just just a sweet story. Publisher was happy with
it and said, would you write another one? I said sure,
and uh, I just couldn't quite get there with the
second one. I was using the same characters, continuing the story.
So I wrote it and thought, okay, not quite the
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same feel because they wanted it to be a little
more of a romance. Turned it in. The publisher said
this isn't what we wanted. You need to rewrite. So
I did and turned it in and then after the
second time, my editor, it was a new editor I
hadn't worked with her before and she said, wow, this
is worse than the second rewrite. Could you right over?
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And she gave me all the things that they really
wanted it to really be a romance, just a really
sweet Christmas romance. And I kept thinking, well, the first
one wasn't. So I rewrote it a third time, turned
it in and she said, we just can't use this.
We need you to do it again the fourth time,
and I went to my agent and said, I think
someone just discovered that I have no idea what I'm doing.
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A Wizard of Oz moment, pulling back, pay no attention
to the woman's behind the typewriter. And my editor said, well,
pray about it, sleep on it, and in the morning,
if you want to just cancel the contract, we can
do that, but just ask Jesus what he wants you
to do. And the next morning it was clear that
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I was to keep my commitment, finish the project, be humble,
learn how to write to what the editor wanted. And
I finished it the fourth time, turned it in and
they said, okay, this will work. And I thought, I
don't want to ever see that book again. I don't
want to think about it. That was just the most
difficult thing. And a few years later, a producer reached
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out to my agent and said, do you have any
Christmas books and she said, oh, yes, Father Christmas, Finding
Father Christmas by Robin and I'll send it to you.
And the producer came back and said, well, we can't
use it because it's really not a romance, and this
is going to be for Hallmark, so it has to
be a romance. And my agent said, oh, we just
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happened to have a second book that is a very
saturated love story, sent that book to her and they said, yes,
we can take the two books and put them together.
And it was such a beautiful thing that the Lord
taught me through that of just do the work, be
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faithful because you don't know what He's going to do
down the road. So when the it was probably I
think we canaded up like twelve to thirteen years from
when I wrote the first book to when the first
movie was made, so long journey and my agent and
I were invited to go on set. It's filmed in Vancouver, Canada,
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and we got to be extras in one of the
scenes and sit in the back of the theater. And
then it did so well. It was the Hallmarks most
watched hyes rated for that year. I think it was
twenty sixteen. And so then they wanted to do another one,
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and because they have a screenwriter who does all the writing,
I just give them the permission. It's like a one
time here's your small payment, but you know, grateful done.
You get to do whatever you want with it. So
then the screenwriter came up with a second one, and
then a third one, and Janet and I were able
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to go on set for all three of them and
be extras in all three of them, and we developed
such sweet friendships with the directors, the producers, the actors.
I still keep on contact and text back and forth
to the three main actors, which is such a gift.
So it was a bigger picture. I guess. I just
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want listeners to kind of look at what it is
struggling with right now and they think I don't have
to do this, You're not the boss me or just
that natural thing that wells up in us, and just
pull back and say, okay, lord, what do you want
you see the whole picture? I don't. I don't know
what you're doing, but I want to be in line
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with your plan because he'll surprise you. He always does.
Speaker 6 (28:23):
That's always more amazing than what you could even initially imagine. No,
I think back to you, know how your journey started too,
with not even sure if you were going to be
writing books, and suddenly you are writing books. And then
even like how you wanted to do you work in
Africa and wanting to get there but then weren't able to.
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But now you have been there and your stories have
reached even farther than that initial thought of wanting to
serve God in Africa, and then just all the different
things that you've done over your life, and just how
it's always ended up because you've you've given it to God,
and how He's directed you and made your dreams even
so much more larger and more amazing than you could
(29:06):
even imagine. So I guess a question that I would
have too, would just be for the listeners and your
readers and just really anyone who might be thinking about
wanting to do something or have a dream, what your
recommendations would be to you, know, especially with your story
with Africa.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
And it wasn't time yet.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
For you to be there, but then being able to
step back and then let God take over and see
those dreams become even more than you had thought or imagined.
So if you just want to touch a little bit
on that, yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
It's always always surrender it just is. It's that his
kingdom would come, not my kingdom. So maybe he puts
those dreams and stirs those desires in our hearts and
equips us to to do certain things or to have
(30:02):
certain interests in Yet it's always surrendering it to him
so that it will be accomplished in his way and
in his time. We're so impatient. But his time is perfect,
we know, but we forget when we're in the middle
of it. A quick example of that is that And well,
I think first I should say, if you are on
(30:29):
the path that God has you on for something that
he's accomplishing in your life, there will be opposition. There
always will. There will be resistance. I mean, you're about
to do damage to the kingdom of darkness and the
enemy will come against you. Period. So you just know
that when well, everything's going wrong or it's all falling apart, Okay,
that's normal. That's just take hope in the Lord, be
(30:53):
strong and courageous and get back at it. Don't give up.
Because we had an opportunity, my husband and I to
go to Brazil. The Christy Miller books had been translated
into Portuguese and they're in Brazil, and the publisher, after
they'd been publishing the books for about ten years, they
(31:13):
invited Ross and I had to go to Brazil and
speak at schools and churches and bookshops and four different cities.
It was a big trip. And just days before we
were to leave, I had a root canal that just
blew up, and I was in the hospital and my
blood pressure was crazy and my face was like this.
(31:36):
And the morning we were supposed to get on the plane,
I went to the indodonist and he was checking it
out to see if the antibiotics were working. And I
thought he was going to say, you are too volatile,
don't get on a plane, but he said, my wife's
from Brazil. I love Brazil. You have to go here.
Just keep taking your meds and put ice on your face.
(31:57):
Go And I got on. We hadn't even yet and
the plane was leaving at like eleven thirty, and we
just ran home and put stuff in a suitcase for
this three week trip to Brazil, and we went. We
got out at baggage claim and Ross said, who are
we supposed to meet? And I said, I don't I
have no idea. I just look for somebody who recognizes us.
And someone who didn't speak English waved at us. We
(32:19):
followed him, got in his car.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
It was the best trip, it was the best. It
was so fruitful. So now that was about sixteen years ago,
and there are women in Brazil who have given their
life to the Lord after reading these books, and they
are now writers and they are writing the books for
the next generation. And I have connected with them. And
(32:48):
a publisher in Brazil reached out recently and said, did
you know that there is such an interest in novels
for young women from these brand new writers that they
had these writers on national television And when they got
on television, every single one of them said that it
was because of your Christy Miller books that they came
(33:09):
to know the Lord and wanted to be a writer
on national television. And like, if I you know, I
just want to say that to those who have a
dream and there's opposition, your face blows up, you think
you shouldn't get on the plane. You get on the plane,
just you know, be available and surrender. And I would
(33:30):
often think, how this saying. We often say that, and
then God showed up. But he's the Alpha and the omega,
the beginning, and he's already there. I really think we
show up, we make ourselves available, even in the obstacles,
and then we wait and see what the Lord will do,
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because it'll be a surprise.
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I think that that's something I have kind of learned
and and and it's a phrase that has helped me recently.
And it's just take the next best up m hm,
you know. And it's like, what do I need to do?
What's the next thing, and what's the best next thing
I can do? But what's that part? I'll just do that?
And then okay, I got that part done. Now what's next?
He's like, show go to the airport. Okay, but now,
(36:19):
well get in the airplane. You know where we go?
Now baggage claim? Okay, Well, now look for somebody. You know,
I don't know if they know us. They don't know us.
The car can get a car? Which car we going?
I don't know where they take it? You know, Like
what's that next best thing? And so I think that
those who are dreaming and then they're they're thinking about
what what what God's put in their heart, and there's
some big dreams, you know, there's some big dreams that
(36:41):
Rebecca and I have, you know, for our family, for us,
so we need to do and so we're just trying
to do the same thing. We're like, Okay, what's the
next what's the next thing? You know, what's the next
step we can do towards that? And this is this
is the whole concept there. Your story just inspired that
and kind of made that come I think, full circle
and paint a really good picture. So if you're out
there watching or listening and hearing this, take the next step,
(37:04):
Take the next step, get on the plane right if
you're I mean, I think about it reminds me of
our trip to to Greece. RecA was twenty something makes
pregnant and she basically was saying, I want to go
to Greece, So how can I make this happen? Essentially
like you are we safe or we're good? And Doctor's like, yeah,
you're fine, you know you're good. But it was like
(37:26):
to get to go see a place that you know,
maybe had she dreamed of versus you know, dream of
seeing the parthon and all the different places we got
to go walk around. Now we were helping, carrying things,
carrying kids, you know, walking around. Make sure she wasn't
carrying the kids while walking around Greece in the summer time. Well,
was it summer trip, Thanksgiving trip, but it was always warmer.
(37:48):
It was warmer too, so that's good. All right, Well,
let's I think we're going to phase into our fun
little repifier, but before we do, I want to pause
and give you a chance. How can folks get it
connect with you? How can they find out about your books?
Find out about how is your podcast? Your podcast host? Yourself?
And I've got a chance to see some of those.
You're really really good at natural at that you said
(38:08):
storytelling comes very natural, and it comes on those side of
that too, So tell people about how they can find
out information about you.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
My website is easy. It's Robin Gun dot com, r
O B I N g U n N dot com.
And that will give you all the links to things
like my online shop where there are a lot of
free downloads, a list of all the books I've written,
and free discussion questions for books and things like that.
(38:37):
And then and then alsocial social media links. I mostly
hang out on Instagram and Facebook. But this Women Worth
Knowing podcast, yes, is was a surprise. We moved to
southern California four years ago. Four years ago this week.
(38:59):
WHOA that went fast? And when I got here, a
friend called me and said that there was someone I
needed to meet. She connected me to Cheryl Broderson, and
I thought we had met at some point because I
grew up in the same area in southern California as
(39:19):
did Cheryl and Cheryl's father, Chuck Smith, founded Calvin Chapels
and Coasta Mesa, so we know we were in the
same concerts at the same time, the same Calvin Chapel
Bible studies the same nights, but we just never met.
So when we connected, she said she was doing a
podcast about women Worth Knowing because she wanted to just
(39:41):
tell stories of the women that are kind of unknown
but God's done amazing things in their lives. So she
first invited me to be a guest on the podcast,
and she had another co host with her at that
time who was moving to another state. And when we
finished the interview, she said, would you be my new
(40:01):
co host? And it was just it was a dream
I didn't even know I had, Like, who tell stories
about women worth knowing?
Speaker 9 (40:09):
That?
Speaker 4 (40:10):
So we have over two hundred and fifty episodes now.
Sometimes we have guests that come in studio or call in,
or we talk about women in history. I have learned
so much about women that a lot of them you
can't even find a book or anything about them. Their
(40:32):
stories are sort of hidden. But oh have they grown
my faith? The way is that they trusted God. It's like, yeah,
I want to I want to be strong and courageous
and learn to trust God in big ways too. So yes,
Women Worth Knowing. It's on any podcast platform that you
(40:52):
can find.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
That's great.
Speaker 6 (40:54):
It's a great podcast. I've put a little flip out
for it. I definitely recommend it. It's mixed driving, Like
I'll just pop it in while I'm driving.
Speaker 8 (41:02):
That you do.
Speaker 5 (41:02):
You learned so much and you know you and and.
Speaker 6 (41:06):
Cheryl are just such great hosts with it and asking
great great questions and learning all sorts of different things.
It is really inspiring and it does it grows your faith.
Speaker 5 (41:15):
So put a little plug for that.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Yeah, absolutely, that's good. And I think if I remember right,
that episode, recommend it to me. The episode the first
one you were actually the guest on you shared it
was a longer episode. You should share really more of
your full story, and so anybody wants to go to
that for a I think it was like a couple
hours like that.
Speaker 5 (41:32):
I think yours was super well.
Speaker 4 (41:35):
Originally when it was just a podcast, we could just
talk as long as we wanted. But then it was
picked up by I think now six radio stations, so
we have to be twenty six minutes and forty seconds.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
Right right, So.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
A lot of the episodes you'll see it's part two
or you know, part three, but we yeah, we just
want to get the whole. We don't want to chop
but too short. We want to tell the whole story.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
Well, I love that. I love that. We're we're actually
just kind of in the process of getting that. I
mean we've been doing audio version, you know, and all
the platforms, and then we're we got picked up partner
I should say a partner with Prey dot com as
of middle of the year, and it's been growing and
really great responses an audience from that, which has been awesome.
(42:23):
Shout out to our Prey dout com audience. If you're
listening on that, let us give me a comment. But
we're also in the process of looking at the first
of the year of a TV formatted show, so we're
actually going to take back some of the ones we've got.
We have something fifty sixty episodes, I think now taking
some of those and making those into actual twenty eight
(42:44):
thirty style TV. So I understand what you're saying. There's
there's a certain timeframe, you know, bounded, you know, you
have to keep it within the timeframe, but at the
same time still getting the message across. And so I'm
sure we'll probably do that as well. They'll probably a
few part one, part twos of some of them. My
long I'm typically I don't know why, I'm typically longer,
and a lot of conversations great come back, you know,
interactions that come longer. So looking forward to seeing those.
(43:07):
But rapid fire. Let's do this. So here's what it is.
These are just and Rebecca as a co host. Random questions.
Anything random pops in your head, you can ask it.
So I'll start it off. What is your favorite food?
Speaker 8 (43:23):
Well, it just depends, you know, one of your favorite food?
Speaker 3 (43:27):
Is about that one of your favorites.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
I just because we're recording this right after Thanksgiving and
I got a lot of pumpkin pie and that was
pretty much my favorite food for three days in a row.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
Be different, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 5 (43:45):
All right? Sunrise or sunset?
Speaker 4 (43:47):
Oh, sunrise.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
Very nice. Let's see here, and you've gotten to travel?
Right about traveling? What's your favorite place you've got to travel?
Speaker 4 (43:56):
I love Hoi, but we live there, but I still
love to visit any part of Hawaii. And you know,
I just finished writing another Suitcase Sister book and I
can announce the destination now, and it's Italy, and so
I would say Venice. I've been there twice and it
(44:17):
was pretty wonderful. So I wrote about Venice in the
new book. So it's still kind of fresh on my mind.
Speaker 5 (44:23):
Do we know when the new book's coming out?
Speaker 4 (44:24):
Sorry, yes, we do right now, August twenty twenty five.
And it's called Gelato at the Villa.
Speaker 5 (44:34):
I'm put it on my calendar.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
That's right, I'm reading So Rebecca Goad I got we
got to go to Venice, and so that that'll mean
a lot too.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
See. I mean that's one of those cities that just
it gets in you you never forget.
Speaker 6 (44:47):
Right, here's one of my questions, because you have been
to a lot of places, but what is one place
you haven't been to yet that is on your bucket
list of travel?
Speaker 3 (44:54):
Correct?
Speaker 4 (44:57):
I have been to Scotland, but just to Glasgow. And
but I would love. I mean again, come on, you
guys have been to the north of Scotland. I haven't
been to the Highland.
Speaker 5 (45:06):
You need to go check it out.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
I'd like to go there, all right.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
I get the question for you, and I guess this
plays a little bit. But is there any non fictional
people of stories you wish you could tell right about them?
Speaker 4 (45:20):
Well, there are quite a few, because I've been discovering
them through the Women Worth Knowing podcasts. But I'm fascinated
with the women who were the early missionaries to Hawaii,
and one of them I haven't written about or talked about.
Sybil Bingham, was just a remarkable one of these New
(45:44):
England women. Hardy get to the tropical islands and have
to do everything from scratch, and they thrived. How do
you do that? I want to know?
Speaker 3 (45:57):
Yeah, that's good, that's good. Any other ones?
Speaker 5 (46:02):
What is your favorite pizza tapping?
Speaker 4 (46:06):
Favorite pizza topping would be mushrooms, But you know, ask
me next week.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
I'll lose secondary on that. One pineapple or no pineapple
on your pizza.
Speaker 4 (46:17):
Well, if there was this one place in Malie that
they did it right, anywhere on the mainline, probably not right.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
Okay, which place we've which were you referring to?
Speaker 4 (46:30):
Oh boy, I don't know if I.
Speaker 6 (46:33):
Pizza madness and yeah we always have to stop.
Speaker 3 (46:41):
I love that. Well, that will probably wrap it up
for us today, but Robin, I want to say thank
you so much for joining us for the podcast. Thank
you to my co host, my lovely wife We're back
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Speaker 3 (00:54):
Hello and welcome to another edition of the GB America Podcast.
I'm your host Steven Gunn, and I had with me
today a double feature treat. I have my wife, doctor
Rebecca gun with me in the studio here we're right
next to each other, and a special treat here. And
then we have our guest today who has the same
(01:15):
last name as us. We're trying to figure out the
connectional family. But we have author, speaker podcast host Robin
Jones gun with us, and we're so glad to have
you on the podcast.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Robin, Well, thank you. I was looking forward to this
because you may tell the listeners that we met quite
a few years ago and I've seen each other a
couple times, and as Stephen said, we're sure we're related
somehow down the line. We just haven't figured it out yet.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
That's right, that's right. You know, this journey has definitely
been one for me. I grew up, grew up since
meet my wife and us talking and dating and throughout
think I always heard about Robin his author, you know,
Robin Jones Gun and so we had the treat of
meeting back in twenty fourteen. It's been longer than I
thought it had, and so it's been such a treat
(02:02):
to see that journey start there and also going with that.
And now it'll come full circle and we'll get into
this more, but come full circle conversations of our daughter
pulling into the mix of that learning and growing and
christ like hunger for reading, and I just think it's
so neat and that's such a special, special thing. So
(02:22):
we're excited. So would you like to start us off
with the first question. I'll let you go when we
started off.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
Okay, cool question you get to ask.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Okay, that's true. That's right. I like that. So you know,
I know a little bit. I know and research a
little bit here is that your journey has been of
authorship has been very intertwined and connected with the family experiences.
And so share a little bit just kind of some
pivot moments of how that the journey started of even
being an author. And I know that's that's a special
(02:52):
story right there. But from there and then maybe fast
forward to how we got from there to hear well.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
I really didn't grow up things I would be a writer.
I wasn't one of those girls who in second grade
started writing stories. But I was always telling stories. And
I did write a few things here and there. And
it wasn't until after my husband, Ross and I had
been married almost five years, and he said, you have
(03:19):
to go to a class or a conference or something
and develop this gift for writing. And he signed me
up and paid for me to go to a weekend
writers conference. I was so mad because I thought I
am going to be so embarrassed, but I came home saying,
you were right. I met my people, and I want
(03:42):
to do this. And I wrote a devotion that was
published in the Upper Room magazine Little you Know Devotional,
and they paid me ten dollars and I realized I
am a published author. So I just started writing more articles,
and I did interviews and devotions, and then when our
kids were little, I wrote children's books. There were fourteen
(04:04):
of those that were all published, which was kind of
amazing back in the day. But then it was a
real turning point. On a camping trip. My husband was
a youth pastor and we'd taken all the kids on
a week long trip to the beach in southern California,
and all these girls were in the tent reading all
week long. And I went in the tent and said,
(04:25):
come on, there's surf and sand and boys and just
outside there. They said, we'd rather just stay in here
and read about surf and sand and boys. So I
read the books with them, and they were only thirteen.
I was just so concerned because I didn't agree with
the messages that they were putting in their young hearts.
And I just said, does your mother know this is
(04:47):
what you're reading? And they said, we just go to
the library and check out whatever we want. So they
challenged me and said, if you don't want us reading
these books and give us something else to read, and
I I tried to find books that were right for
their age group that had all the elements they wanted,
couldn't find any. They then challenged me again and said,
(05:09):
why don't you write for us? And I took it
seriously that this was something we could do together. So
every week I would read a chapter to the girls
in my Sunday school class, and they'd tell me everything
I did wrong and everything that had to be changed.
And I keep rewriting. And the first Christy Miller book
(05:30):
was rejected ten times by publishers. They all said, we
just don't see a market for books like this. And
I wanted to say, well, go look in the tent,
look in your daughter's bedroom, look at what she's reading.
And it was focused on the family magazine or publishers
that had just started publishing, and they picked up the
(05:51):
first Christy Miller book. And within three weeks we had
the first letter from a reader who said, when I
was reading in the book where Christie realized she'd never
given her life to the Lord, I realized I haven't either,
and I prayed for it along with her. I gave
my heart to Jesus. Wow, and that was the first letter,
and I've received hundreds, maybe thousands of notes like that
(06:17):
over the years, so that the books then we knew
needed to continue. We needed to keep writing these wholesome
role model stories that could get into the hands and
the hearts of these young girls. And God has blessed
the Christy Miller books. They've been translated in other languages,
(06:37):
and so yeah, and that's how Rebecca and I connected
through those characters.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
That is, I found my first Christy Miller book. I
think I was in seventh grade. I found it wandering
in the library and rest's history and seventh grade seventh
grade me would be like really geeking out right now
that I'm getting attack to you. But I'm so thankful
that it finally got accepted by that next publisher and
(07:05):
for all those girls and the tent telling you to
keep going after it, and now you have what do
you what book number is this one?
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Do you know how many I know I'm putting on
the spot.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
I'm like, I think it's one hundred and six.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
That is amazing. That is so amazing, Oh so amazing.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
I know.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
One of the things that I really appreciated, you know,
starting with the Christy Miller books, and then going on
through the Sierra Jensen and then the college years, and
just going on through all of them. Is that I
was always around that same age group of the characters
that you were writing about, and now now I'm these
ages having this one. But it's so it's so fun
(07:51):
just to kind of reconnect with your writing style and
even the little easter eggs that you put in there
with characters from other.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Series. And I know that this book has especially.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
Meaning for you, significant meaning for you because it takes
place in Africa, and I know that has holds a
really important and special place for you in your heart.
I do want to share a little bit about why
you chose to write about Africa with the Tea with Elephants.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Well, it had long been in my heart to go
to Africa because when I was growing up and I
didn't know what I wanted to be when I grew up,
I thought the most wonderful thing would be if I
could be a missionary and go to some remote place
in the world and tell people about God's love. And
(08:41):
so Africa of course was the place to go, and
I applied to go and serve with this mission organization
The only opening that they had in Kenya was to
be a laundry supervisor, and I was turned down. I
didn't have the necessary talent. When you're twenty twenty one
(09:04):
years old and you can't even go wash clothes for
Jesus in Africa, I don't have any gifts or any
special abilities here, and how can I serve the Lord?
And then I realized, over the years of spending more
time with teaching Sunday school and being around young girls
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and telling them stories and teaching the Bible to them,
that that was really what I was gifted and called
to do, and so that it flowed naturally into telling
stories in books and writing more and more books. And
years later I was invited to teach at a conference
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in England. I mean, when you write enough books, people
think you know what you're doing. Please come to England
and teach us how to write books. And at lunch
I met a young woman sitting at the table after
everyone else left. She said, I wanted to tell you
that I grew up reading your books and because of them,
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I want to go into publishing books. And her name
take was Wambora. And I said, where are you from?
And she said, Nairobi, Africa, you know Kenya. And I said,
you know, when I was your age, I thought I
was going to go to Africa and be a laundry supervisor.
Why And I told her my story. I just thought
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that was the best way I could serve God. And
she said to me, you did not need to come
to Africa to wash our laundry. You sent your stories
and God used them to wash our hearts. And that's
what I knew. That's that's what I was made to do.
Years after that, she and I remained friends, and I
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was invited to speak at another conference in Africa in Kenya,
and Wambora invited me to come day with her. We
had such a great time. She took me to a
hotel up in the treetops on Mount Kenya, and there's
a big watering hole and at four o'clock you can
go to the very top of this treetop hotel and
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they come and serve you with silver tea service in
teacups and you look down. And we sat there, she
and I we put scarfs on and threw them around
our necks and had tea with elephants. And when we
were talking, she said, you remember that title, You're going
to want to make a book about that someday. And
I was really privileged to go to Kenya a second time,
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and that time, Wambura and some of our other friends,
we all went on a safari. So that's why Tea
with Elephants had to become a book someday. And it
now is just came out two months ago, and yeah,
I poured into it my deep affection for Kenya and
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wrote about characters who were realizing that they had to
get away from their schedule and their routines at home
to really see what God was doing in their lives.
Because I find that often happens when you travel, You
get out of the routine and God just shows you
new things.
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Speaker 3 (14:19):
So I'm curious as an author, like you said, you've
you've learned over the years to write a few books
over one hundred books there. So what has what have
you found from writing style in terms of how you
approach the process of writing. Has that been something that
is it more of a spontaneity thing. Do you have
like a theme of you know, you want to go
down this road with this character or this this subject
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line the title even and that you try to develop
that or is it more have you been just curious
can what does that look like for you?
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Well, I'm very character driven because I want to tell
their stories and I want to get to know them.
So my process over the years has been the same,
and it's started with the very first trying to come
up with the character Todd in the Christy Miller series.
I was going through surfer magazines and I saw this
picture of this blonde surfer boy with these bright, screaming
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silver blue eyes and cut him out and put him
on a piece of paper and I looked at him
and said, Hi, my name's Robin. What's your name? And
he said, Tod Todd Spencer. Oh okay, write that down,
just you know, your imagination things in and then I
always like, come up with just three things. What's your name?
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Tell me something unique about you? And he said, oh,
I'm allergic to beastings Like, oh okay, that'll come in later.
And then I said, and what's your problem? Because you
can't have fiction unless you have friction, So every character
I want to know what's going on. And he said, well,
my parents are divorced and I'm not sure which one
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I'm going to live with, Like okay, So then I
knew i'd put him in a binder, and then I
developed all the other characters, found pictures of them, and
I still do that, so it's kind of like paper
dolls or you know, I'm very visual. So I put
it all together. And then the very first thing I
do before I start writing is I sit down and
(16:19):
take a pen to paper, and I write out a prayer,
and I dedicate myself to the Lord, and I ask him,
you know, please, may I have another story and just
pray for the readers. Every time, I just write out
a prayer that the story that would be something specific
that would get to the person who needs to hear that,
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and that it would draw them closer to the Lord's
That's always my prayer, that my stories would draw the
reader closer to the heart of God. So and then
I just start writing. I kind of know sometimes what
I mean. I know the location and I know the
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like the characters, but I don't always know how it's
going to end or what's going to happen. My editors crazy, sometimes,
you know, you could rewrite. I read write a lot.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Tell us more, tell us more. I'm just working on it.
I'm still in process. Give me a little bit here,
that's great. Now, I know a lot of your early
ones were set in Hawaii. I guess you were because
you lived lived there for a bit.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
Well that was book number five of the Christina series.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Well, so there you go. This is where it starts us.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
It's like, technically it takes place in southern California because
that's where I was from when I found the book,
and so I thought it was really interesting too, just
because you know, she had moved to California, and then
I moved away from California and that was right around
the time of the year Jensen then the movie. Anyway,
we're going down that road for a minute. I wanted
to go back to the Team with Elephants for a
(17:53):
minute because I really I just aside from bringing in
different aspects and things from other series, it's always fun
to read about. And I'm not gonna say what they
are so that your readers can find out what those are,
but I did. I just really appreciated about just the
gift of friendship that you bring in with the two
main characters, and just seeing what that friendship the ebb like,
(18:16):
the ebbing and the flowing of just their friendship from
when they were teens to now adults and kind of
how that shifts over time, and then also just the
realities of love and of life really that take place
during the story.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
And I really.
Speaker 6 (18:34):
I I always love reading and it was really neat
hearing about how you named Todd from the Christy Miller
series and then looking at you know, one of your
character's names. Here comes or you kind of refer to
the to the word I believe it's fern with am
I saying that correct?
Speaker 5 (18:52):
Is that been?
Speaker 9 (18:52):
Like?
Speaker 5 (18:53):
I'm really curious how you Like.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
I had never heard that word before until I read
it in this and I love the definition, But tell me,
I'm really curious if you can remember like when you
heard it or like how it resonated with you, because
I was like, Wow, this is such a really neat word,
and I how does she know these words? How does
she find these things out? So feel free to share
a little bit about that.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
It was good old social media. I was following a
friend and that I had known for a long time
but hadn't connected with her, and clicked on her profile
and she said faith, family and fern way and I thought,
who's for? So I had to look it up and
it's Friendway is the longing to travel to faraway places.
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And I thought, oh, that's me. I love that, and
I loved that that was part knowing her. Yep, that's
that's part of her whole life. So I thought, see,
that's the thing about writing, too. It's like you're always
running around with a butterfly net, just catching these butterflies
and putting them in your collection, so that some day
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these little words or pieces or characters. And I thought
about after I was saying how Todd, I did cut
out a picture of Todd as I said, that is true.
But what's also true is that I originally named him
Ron and the girls in the youth group said, oh no, no, no, no,
his name's Todd. When they saw the picture, They're like no,
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they so, yep, again write. There's always creative writing. There's
always changes.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
That is. That is great. So now your books, how
many series have you done? I know there's and we're
becoming able to answer this, how many different series has
there been throughout this?
Speaker 4 (20:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
Okay, okay, I'm like right now, well, okay, I'll just
say it this way.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
The Christy Miller collection has the high school years, the
college years, the Marriagers Baby. Then there's the haven Maker
series about Christy and Sierra when they're a little bit
older in their thirties and you know, late twenties and thirties.
And then the glen Brook series, which the first Glenn
Brook book was made into a Hallmark movie, well very
(21:17):
loosely based on the book. But then there's a Sister
Chick series, and now I'm doing the Suitcase Sister series,
the Father Christmas series and those were made into three
Hallmark movies. Yeah, it was anyway, keeping count, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
How many of it, That's okay. I just was curious
because I just think that's unique to to be able
to do the series like that. I think that was
my point was more or less.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
There were like there were a few other ones too,
because I think they're like, was it the Cottage by
the Sea?
Speaker 5 (21:45):
Is that what series is?
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Yes?
Speaker 9 (21:46):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (21:47):
And then the one the Hideaway series and yeah series
Katie Weldon series.
Speaker 9 (21:54):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
I just don't want to say goodbye to my imaginary friends.
I'd guess.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Well, but I love that because I think there's something
to be said about the like bringing it into it,
like you said, a collection. But then the collection encompasses
a certain number of you know, the journey along the way,
and different different parts and pieces of that. And I
think how often we look at our lives and go,
you know what, like there is a work you know
before the name of us is our collection. But yet
where there's different seasons, they'll be walked through, different parts
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and different times of how we approach things, we learn lessons,
We have different collections of friendships, of broad God brings
into our lives, and like you said, I don't want
to let go, but maybe they're not quite as much
in our lives. And so I think that's something special
about that. And I love now that I've read the
books myself. I love the.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
I know I'm going to have to get on. I
know we have like all of them at home.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Yeah, I love that, and I really do. And actually
we as a fairby we sit down a lot of times.
She'll be like, we're gonna have girls time, We're gonna
watch Homemark movie, and I'm like, I want to watch
with you guys. You know, so we're.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
Have you watched the one that?
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Yeah? So, which which segues to our next question. My
next question at least was what was the process like
of those movie those books becoming movies and how you
know what was to takeaways from that that process.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
I love telling this story because it's just it's just
a God story all the way through. And I actually
wrote a very little book, it's ebook. It's one hundred
pages long, called How My Book Became a Movie, so
you can go to Amazon and how my Book and
it's kind of one hundred pages tells the story because
the short version is that after I wrote Finding Father Christmas,
(23:41):
which was a contract from a publisher, would you write
a Christmas novella? Sure? How fun came quickly?
Speaker 10 (23:48):
Was not a.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Romance, just just a sweet story. Publisher was happy with
it and said, would you write another one? I said sure,
and uh, I just couldn't quite get there with the
second one. I was using the same characters, continuing the story.
So I wrote it and thought, okay, not quite the
(24:10):
same feel because they wanted it to be a little
more of a romance. Turned it in. The publisher said
this isn't what we wanted. You need to rewrite. So
I did and turned it in and then after the
second time, my editor, it was a new editor I
hadn't worked with her before and she said, wow, this
is worse than the second rewrite. Could you right over?
(24:32):
And she gave me all the things that they really
wanted it to really be a romance, just a really
sweet Christmas romance. And I kept thinking, well, the first
one wasn't. So I rewrote it a third time, turned
it in and she said, we just can't use this.
We need you to do it again the fourth time,
and I went to my agent and said, I think
someone just discovered that I have no idea what I'm doing.
(24:57):
A Wizard of Oz moment, pulling back, pay no attention
to the woman's behind the typewriter. And my editor said, well,
pray about it, sleep on it, and in the morning,
if you want to just cancel the contract, we can
do that, but just ask Jesus what he wants you
to do. And the next morning it was clear that
(25:19):
I was to keep my commitment, finish the project, be humble,
learn how to write to what the editor wanted. And
I finished it the fourth time, turned it in and
they said, okay, this will work. And I thought, I
don't want to ever see that book again. I don't
want to think about it. That was just the most
difficult thing. And a few years later, a producer reached
(25:46):
out to my agent and said, do you have any
Christmas books and she said, oh, yes, Father Christmas, Finding
Father Christmas by Robin and I'll send it to you.
And the producer came back and said, well, we can't
use it because it's really not a romance, and this
is going to be for Hallmark, so it has to
be a romance. And my agent said, oh, we just
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happened to have a second book that is a very
saturated love story, sent that book to her and they said, yes,
we can take the two books and put them together.
And it was such a beautiful thing that the Lord
taught me through that of just do the work, be
(26:26):
faithful because you don't know what He's going to do
down the road. So when the it was probably I
think we canaded up like twelve to thirteen years from
when I wrote the first book to when the first
movie was made, so long journey and my agent and
I were invited to go on set. It's filmed in Vancouver, Canada,
(26:52):
and we got to be extras in one of the
scenes and sit in the back of the theater. And
then it did so well. It was the Hallmarks most
watched hyes rated for that year. I think it was
twenty sixteen. And so then they wanted to do another one,
(27:13):
and because they have a screenwriter who does all the writing,
I just give them the permission. It's like a one
time here's your small payment, but you know, grateful done.
You get to do whatever you want with it. So
then the screenwriter came up with a second one, and
then a third one, and Janet and I were able
(27:34):
to go on set for all three of them and
be extras in all three of them, and we developed
such sweet friendships with the directors, the producers, the actors.
I still keep on contact and text back and forth
to the three main actors, which is such a gift.
So it was a bigger picture. I guess. I just
(27:57):
want listeners to kind of look at what it is
struggling with right now and they think I don't have
to do this, You're not the boss me or just
that natural thing that wells up in us, and just
pull back and say, okay, lord, what do you want
you see the whole picture? I don't. I don't know
what you're doing, but I want to be in line
(28:17):
with your plan because he'll surprise you. He always does.
Speaker 6 (28:23):
That's always more amazing than what you could even initially imagine. No,
I think back to you, know how your journey started too,
with not even sure if you were going to be
writing books, and suddenly you are writing books. And then
even like how you wanted to do you work in
Africa and wanting to get there but then weren't able to.
(28:43):
But now you have been there and your stories have
reached even farther than that initial thought of wanting to
serve God in Africa, and then just all the different
things that you've done over your life, and just how
it's always ended up because you've you've given it to God,
and how He's directed you and made your dreams even
so much more larger and more amazing than you could
(29:06):
even imagine. So I guess a question that I would
have too, would just be for the listeners and your
readers and just really anyone who might be thinking about
wanting to do something or have a dream, what your
recommendations would be to you, know, especially with your story
with Africa.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
And it wasn't time yet.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
For you to be there, but then being able to
step back and then let God take over and see
those dreams become even more than you had thought or imagined.
So if you just want to touch a little bit
on that, yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
It's always always surrender it just is. It's that his
kingdom would come, not my kingdom. So maybe he puts
those dreams and stirs those desires in our hearts and
equips us to to do certain things or to have
(30:02):
certain interests in Yet it's always surrendering it to him
so that it will be accomplished in his way and
in his time. We're so impatient. But his time is perfect,
we know, but we forget when we're in the middle
of it. A quick example of that is that And well,
I think first I should say, if you are on
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the path that God has you on for something that
he's accomplishing in your life, there will be opposition. There
always will. There will be resistance. I mean, you're about
to do damage to the kingdom of darkness and the
enemy will come against you. Period. So you just know
that when well, everything's going wrong or it's all falling apart, Okay,
that's normal. That's just take hope in the Lord, be
(30:53):
strong and courageous and get back at it. Don't give up.
Because we had an opportunity, my husband and I to
go to Brazil. The Christy Miller books had been translated
into Portuguese and they're in Brazil, and the publisher, after
they'd been publishing the books for about ten years, they
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invited Ross and I had to go to Brazil and
speak at schools and churches and bookshops and four different cities.
It was a big trip. And just days before we
were to leave, I had a root canal that just
blew up, and I was in the hospital and my
blood pressure was crazy and my face was like this.
(31:36):
And the morning we were supposed to get on the plane,
I went to the indodonist and he was checking it
out to see if the antibiotics were working. And I
thought he was going to say, you are too volatile,
don't get on a plane, but he said, my wife's
from Brazil. I love Brazil. You have to go here.
Just keep taking your meds and put ice on your face.
(31:57):
Go And I got on. We hadn't even yet and
the plane was leaving at like eleven thirty, and we
just ran home and put stuff in a suitcase for
this three week trip to Brazil, and we went. We
got out at baggage claim and Ross said, who are
we supposed to meet? And I said, I don't I
have no idea. I just look for somebody who recognizes us.
And someone who didn't speak English waved at us. We
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followed him, got in his car.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
It was the best trip, it was the best. It
was so fruitful. So now that was about sixteen years ago,
and there are women in Brazil who have given their
life to the Lord after reading these books, and they
are now writers and they are writing the books for
the next generation. And I have connected with them. And
(32:48):
a publisher in Brazil reached out recently and said, did
you know that there is such an interest in novels
for young women from these brand new writers that they
had these writers on national television And when they got
on television, every single one of them said that it
was because of your Christy Miller books that they came
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to know the Lord and wanted to be a writer
on national television. And like, if I you know, I
just want to say that to those who have a
dream and there's opposition, your face blows up, you think
you shouldn't get on the plane. You get on the plane,
just you know, be available and surrender. And I would
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then God showed up. But he's the Alpha and the omega,
the beginning, and he's already there. I really think we
show up, we make ourselves available, even in the obstacles,
and then we wait and see what the Lord will do,
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I think that that's something I have kind of learned
and and and it's a phrase that has helped me recently.
And it's just take the next best up m hm,
you know. And it's like, what do I need to do?
What's the next thing, and what's the best next thing
I can do? But what's that part? I'll just do that?
And then okay, I got that part done. Now what's next?
He's like, show go to the airport. Okay, but now,
(36:19):
well get in the airplane. You know where we go?
Now baggage claim? Okay, Well, now look for somebody. You know,
I don't know if they know us. They don't know us.
The car can get a car? Which car we going?
I don't know where they take it? You know, Like
what's that next best thing? And so I think that
those who are dreaming and then they're they're thinking about
what what what God's put in their heart, and there's
some big dreams, you know, there's some big dreams that
(36:41):
Rebecca and I have, you know, for our family, for us,
so we need to do and so we're just trying
to do the same thing. We're like, Okay, what's the
next what's the next thing? You know, what's the next
step we can do towards that? And this is this
is the whole concept there. Your story just inspired that
and kind of made that come I think, full circle
and paint a really good picture. So if you're out
there watching or listening and hearing this, take the next step,
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Take the next step, get on the plane right if
you're I mean, I think about it reminds me of
our trip to to Greece. RecA was twenty something makes
pregnant and she basically was saying, I want to go
to Greece, So how can I make this happen? Essentially
like you are we safe or we're good? And Doctor's like, yeah,
you're fine, you know you're good. But it was like
(37:26):
to get to go see a place that you know,
maybe had she dreamed of versus you know, dream of
seeing the parthon and all the different places we got
to go walk around. Now we were helping, carrying things,
carrying kids, you know, walking around. Make sure she wasn't
carrying the kids while walking around Greece in the summer time. Well,
was it summer trip, Thanksgiving trip, but it was always warmer.
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It was warmer too, so that's good. All right, Well,
let's I think we're going to phase into our fun
little repifier, but before we do, I want to pause
and give you a chance. How can folks get it
connect with you? How can they find out about your books?
Find out about how is your podcast? Your podcast host? Yourself?
And I've got a chance to see some of those.
You're really really good at natural at that you said
(38:08):
storytelling comes very natural, and it comes on those side of
that too, So tell people about how they can find
out information about you.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
My website is easy. It's Robin Gun dot com, r
O B I N g U n N dot com.
And that will give you all the links to things
like my online shop where there are a lot of
free downloads, a list of all the books I've written,
and free discussion questions for books and things like that.
(38:37):
And then and then alsocial social media links. I mostly
hang out on Instagram and Facebook. But this Women Worth
Knowing podcast, yes, is was a surprise. We moved to
southern California four years ago. Four years ago this week.
(38:59):
WHOA that went fast? And when I got here, a
friend called me and said that there was someone I
needed to meet. She connected me to Cheryl Broderson, and
I thought we had met at some point because I
grew up in the same area in southern California as
(39:19):
did Cheryl and Cheryl's father, Chuck Smith, founded Calvin Chapels
and Coasta Mesa, so we know we were in the
same concerts at the same time, the same Calvin Chapel
Bible studies the same nights, but we just never met.
So when we connected, she said she was doing a
podcast about women Worth Knowing because she wanted to just
(39:41):
tell stories of the women that are kind of unknown
but God's done amazing things in their lives. So she
first invited me to be a guest on the podcast,
and she had another co host with her at that
time who was moving to another state. And when we
finished the interview, she said, would you be my new
(40:01):
co host? And it was just it was a dream
I didn't even know I had, Like, who tell stories
about women worth knowing?
Speaker 9 (40:09):
That?
Speaker 4 (40:10):
So we have over two hundred and fifty episodes now.
Sometimes we have guests that come in studio or call in,
or we talk about women in history. I have learned
so much about women that a lot of them you
can't even find a book or anything about them. Their
(40:32):
stories are sort of hidden. But oh have they grown
my faith? The way is that they trusted God. It's like, yeah,
I want to I want to be strong and courageous
and learn to trust God in big ways too. So yes,
Women Worth Knowing. It's on any podcast platform that you
(40:52):
can find.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
That's great.
Speaker 6 (40:54):
It's a great podcast. I've put a little flip out
for it. I definitely recommend it. It's mixed driving, Like
I'll just pop it in while I'm driving.
Speaker 8 (41:02):
That you do.
Speaker 5 (41:02):
You learned so much and you know you and and.
Speaker 6 (41:06):
Cheryl are just such great hosts with it and asking
great great questions and learning all sorts of different things.
It is really inspiring and it does it grows your faith.
Speaker 5 (41:15):
So put a little plug for that.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Yeah, absolutely, that's good. And I think if I remember right,
that episode, recommend it to me. The episode the first
one you were actually the guest on you shared it
was a longer episode. You should share really more of
your full story, and so anybody wants to go to
that for a I think it was like a couple
hours like that.
Speaker 5 (41:32):
I think yours was super well.
Speaker 4 (41:35):
Originally when it was just a podcast, we could just
talk as long as we wanted. But then it was
picked up by I think now six radio stations, so
we have to be twenty six minutes and forty seconds.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
Right right, So.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
A lot of the episodes you'll see it's part two
or you know, part three, but we yeah, we just
want to get the whole. We don't want to chop
but too short. We want to tell the whole story.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
Well, I love that. I love that. We're we're actually
just kind of in the process of getting that. I
mean we've been doing audio version, you know, and all
the platforms, and then we're we got picked up partner
I should say a partner with Prey dot com as
of middle of the year, and it's been growing and
really great responses an audience from that, which has been awesome.
(42:23):
Shout out to our Prey dout com audience. If you're
listening on that, let us give me a comment. But
we're also in the process of looking at the first
of the year of a TV formatted show, so we're
actually going to take back some of the ones we've got.
We have something fifty sixty episodes, I think now taking
some of those and making those into actual twenty eight
(42:44):
thirty style TV. So I understand what you're saying. There's
there's a certain timeframe, you know, bounded, you know, you
have to keep it within the timeframe, but at the
same time still getting the message across. And so I'm
sure we'll probably do that as well. They'll probably a
few part one, part twos of some of them. My
long I'm typically I don't know why, I'm typically longer,
and a lot of conversations great come back, you know,
interactions that come longer. So looking forward to seeing those.
(43:07):
But rapid fire. Let's do this. So here's what it is.
These are just and Rebecca as a co host. Random questions.
Anything random pops in your head, you can ask it.
So I'll start it off. What is your favorite food?
Speaker 8 (43:23):
Well, it just depends, you know, one of your favorite food?
Speaker 3 (43:27):
Is about that one of your favorites.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
I just because we're recording this right after Thanksgiving and
I got a lot of pumpkin pie and that was
pretty much my favorite food for three days in a row.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
Be different, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 5 (43:45):
All right? Sunrise or sunset?
Speaker 4 (43:47):
Oh, sunrise.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
Very nice. Let's see here, and you've gotten to travel?
Right about traveling? What's your favorite place you've got to travel?
Speaker 4 (43:56):
I love Hoi, but we live there, but I still
love to visit any part of Hawaii. And you know,
I just finished writing another Suitcase Sister book and I
can announce the destination now, and it's Italy, and so
I would say Venice. I've been there twice and it
(44:17):
was pretty wonderful. So I wrote about Venice in the
new book. So it's still kind of fresh on my mind.
Speaker 5 (44:23):
Do we know when the new book's coming out?
Speaker 4 (44:24):
Sorry, yes, we do right now, August twenty twenty five.
And it's called Gelato at the Villa.
Speaker 5 (44:34):
I'm put it on my calendar.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
That's right, I'm reading So Rebecca Goad I got we
got to go to Venice, and so that that'll mean
a lot too.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
See. I mean that's one of those cities that just
it gets in you you never forget.
Speaker 6 (44:47):
Right, here's one of my questions, because you have been
to a lot of places, but what is one place
you haven't been to yet that is on your bucket
list of travel?
Speaker 3 (44:54):
Correct?
Speaker 4 (44:57):
I have been to Scotland, but just to Glasgow. And
but I would love. I mean again, come on, you
guys have been to the north of Scotland. I haven't
been to the Highland.
Speaker 5 (45:06):
You need to go check it out.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
I'd like to go there, all right.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
I get the question for you, and I guess this
plays a little bit. But is there any non fictional
people of stories you wish you could tell right about them?
Speaker 4 (45:20):
Well, there are quite a few, because I've been discovering
them through the Women Worth Knowing podcasts. But I'm fascinated
with the women who were the early missionaries to Hawaii,
and one of them I haven't written about or talked about.
Sybil Bingham, was just a remarkable one of these New
(45:44):
England women. Hardy get to the tropical islands and have
to do everything from scratch, and they thrived. How do
you do that? I want to know?
Speaker 3 (45:57):
Yeah, that's good, that's good. Any other ones?
Speaker 5 (46:02):
What is your favorite pizza tapping?
Speaker 4 (46:06):
Favorite pizza topping would be mushrooms, But you know, ask
me next week.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
I'll lose secondary on that. One pineapple or no pineapple
on your pizza.
Speaker 4 (46:17):
Well, if there was this one place in Malie that
they did it right, anywhere on the mainline, probably not right.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
Okay, which place we've which were you referring to?
Speaker 4 (46:30):
Oh boy, I don't know if I.
Speaker 6 (46:33):
Pizza madness and yeah we always have to stop.
Speaker 3 (46:41):
I love that. Well, that will probably wrap it up
for us today, but Robin, I want to say thank
you so much for joining us for the podcast. Thank
you to my co host, my lovely wife We're back
a gun for joining me, and thank you for following us.
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