January 22, 2026 • 35 mins
From finalized divorces to criminal charges - celebrities are going through it in their chapter two! Golden’s Susan and Kathy are bringing you the latest news and trends when it comes to divorce!
Plus, a reality TV star couple call it quits after rumors of infidelity!
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
Hey, I do Part two.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
It's your celebrity mentor Susan Noles and Batty Schwartz from
The Golden Bachelor in our podcast Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
And we have a lot to cover in today's news.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
We're talking divorce trends, splits in so much more in
chapter two.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
You ready to get into this.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
We got to get into it, and we have got
to start. Have you heard about this new trend with
divorce rings, how women are celebrating their breakups. I can't, Susan.
I mean they're having they're repurposing engagement rings, they're doing parties, tattoos,
wild home renovations like what just happened to simple divorce?
Speaker 4 (01:05):
I don't know. What do you think about it?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
British Vogue is all about it. It's written up in there,
so it is a thing.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
I mean, we all know if Vogue says that it
must be true, right, So here's what I'm hearing about it.
They're putting it a ring on their fingers.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Sometimes it's made of metal.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Sometimes they're you know, repurposing their engagement ring. Remember they
talked about conscious uncoupling.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Yes, well now we're doing like conscious unhitching with jewelry.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I mean, I don't know, you know what all celebrate
when we get married and we get a wedding ring,
And why be miserable at your divorce. Let's celebrate it
and put a sign on there that I'm divorced. Sometimes
I think they even tattoo.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Well, here's the thing. I think a lot of women are.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
You know, they're having parties, they're bringing their force attorneys state,
they all get together. I think it's a new way
of building community for the divorce women that are, frankly
a larger and larger part of our community. I don't know,
I'm not sure that we'll talk about my ring in
(02:19):
a minute, but go ahead.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
What were you gonna say?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
The girl and gone girl?
Speaker 4 (02:23):
That model Emily Radikalska.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
She celebrated her divorce from Sebastian Bear macclair with not one,
but two rings that incorporated the diamonds from her engagement ring.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
So this is like a new sport.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
I mean, you know, this is called new recycling.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Why sell a diamond ring for a quarter of its value?
Why not just have a new ring made?
Speaker 4 (02:53):
But I got to tell you so.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
In Vogue they go on to talk about jewelers are
making these rings like it is a thing. Now bind
a ring, wearing it proudly, a lavish I don't know,
a divorce ring.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
You wear it on the same finger, or I'd probably
wear it on my middle finger because i won't want
somebody else to think I'm not taking So.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
It's a whole new thing for social media. Flash your ice,
your new ice on social media. But here's what I
want to know. If I'm gonna wear one, and I'm
surprised you wouldn't say this, do you know what finger
I'd wear it on? And I think a lot of
women are doing this the middle one because it can
it sends a message in so many ways.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
I don't know. I don't know what I think about.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Did you hear there's divorce cakes, divorce party games?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
I mean, pin the tail on the X anyone?
Speaker 4 (03:52):
I don't what do you think about it? Though?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Like, I'm not sure? So you know I'm a widow
your divorce? What'd you do with your diamond ring?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Actually my kids benefited from it because the Centerson, my
first son was getting engaged and he couldn't afford what
he wanted, so I gave him that My at first
my daughter had it, and then they that didn't work out,
and I had it set in a Christopher had it
set in a ring for Jessica, my daughter in law.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Well how about you, Well, yours wasn't a Morris obviously
my husband died.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I it's funny. I wear my diamond ring on my
right hand. But you know what I've noticed and aren't
so smart they can't tell right now, They're like, oh,
she's married, So I've stopped wearing it.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
If I go out, I just wear like nothing on.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
A necklace or have a bracelet mate or something.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I don't know because I'm you know what I'm going
to do with that. I'm going to give it to
my granddaughter.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Okay, we'll see eventually.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
But but wait, we're not just so. It's not just
rings that people are doing. They there's paintings, like doing
their own mural. Apparently Jessica Alba did one after filing
for divorce from her husband Cash Warren, Like, I want
to burn it.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
That one broke my heart. I love them together. Nicole
Kidman and Keith Urban.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
And Jennifer Aniston Andreith Rereith's Witherspoon are said to be
throwing a big one for her after her split.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Okay, but here's the thing. Here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
When the celebration's over, let's let's let's go here, Susan.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
We got we got our divorce rings, we've got our tattoos,
We've had our parties, we've had a mural, We've got
a tattoo that some of them are doing that says
life is transformation is life?
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Like? Okay, once we've done all this and.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
You know we've we hate the man, We've made it
in all of our social media.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
We're done. When do we come back around to?
Speaker 3 (06:01):
And maybe not him, but you know, maybe I want
to get married again. I mean, if I were a guy,
I'd like, I'm not touch her with a ten foot fall.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
She's gonna have me on a billboard somewhere.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
And also, Kathy, this is saying that both parties wanted
the divorce to have a celebration like this. That means
both Sometimes that does happen and they they agree they're
not meant to be and they go their separate ways.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
That I can understand. How like this well person sad
over it.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
I don't think husband and wives are having these party
divorcees are having this party together. I think Jennifer Aniston,
Nicole Kinman, these women are having these parties.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
I do not think.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I do not think the X or Y chromosome, whichever
one men is.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
That men are. I think they're X. They're not invited.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
But I'm just saying it's it's uh, it's a lot.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
I mean, it is a lot.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Didn't Rachel Zoe from the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills
just do this?
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Yeah, she was married over twenty years. You know what
it says to me?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Honestly, it's like I'd rather I mean, this is a
big public statement about divorce. I hate you. I'm going
to have a party. I'm going to tack tooo how
much I hate you. Then I'm going to burn something
in effigy of you.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I don't think of the focus like that. Like for me,
for instance, we're really good friends. We do things together
still with our grandkids. And also not everybody is the
I hate ours was more like we can't.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Yeah, we are.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Also, with all due respect, you're not Nicole Kidman, You're
not Jefferson, You're not in you know, they have children,
they have I heard the funniest thing the other day
about Nicole Kidman's divorce from Keith Urban, Like, yeah, he's
you know, I let me just say publicly.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I don't think i'd want to do it.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
I get it, they're public, but we got to move
on to the next one.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Okay, else split you're ready?
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Yep?
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I o'cook and Amanda Bachelor announced their separation after four.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Years of marriage. We're going to go their separate ways.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
They post it to their Instagram stories on Monday till nineteenth.
What they say, we have mutually and amicably decided to
part ways as a couple. We share this heavy heart
and kindly ask for your grace and support while we
focus on our personal growth and healing. And it feels
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ironic for them to ask for privacy when their whole
marriage was public.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Right, Yeah, but they say, they said, it feels ironic
to ask for privacy during this time, since we've always
tried to be open and honest about our relationship. But
your kindness and respect will go a long way as
we try to navigate our chapter. And the statement concluded
with him signing a man and Kyle.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
He's forty three thirty four. They got engaged in and
tied the knot in twenty one. It was actually postponed
due to COVID and it.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Was right here in Jersey, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
And throughout their relationship, which was documented on Summerhouse, pair
has been open about their struggles. In season three of
the Bravo series, which aired in March of twenty nineteen,
Cook confessed to cheating on her, claiming the blackout during
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the guy's trip and woke up with a girl in
his bed, and recent rumors that they had split began
to squirrel when Bachelor claimed that Cook spent the night
at a fans apartment in the.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Trailer for season ten of Summerhouse.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Come on, I mean, yeah, Kyle was sleeping some fans apartment.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
It came home at like six thirty in the morning.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I mean seriously, so so Amanda. You know, she's told
Clara Miller and Lindsey Hubbard there expressing their disapproval. That's
like saying the sun rises in the east. I mean,
but here's the thing. They're young.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Cook's forty three, she's thirty four. They're young. It's public.
It shouldn't be public.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Well, their whole I mean else was public, so why
shouldn't that be public.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Well, that's what humor's about, the masking now for privacy.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
My advice to them do it nice and move on.
Thirty four years old, you got a whole life ahead
of you, right.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
My advice is, get out of the limelight anyway you can.
Do not take out a billboard, do not burn an effigy,
do not.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Is she going to get a divorce ring?
Speaker 3 (10:50):
I would know she's going to join Jennifer Anson the
rest of the crew and have a big party. I
got to say, though, Susan, it's got to be difficult
for these Hollywood people to you know, do you want
it publicly known that your husband, a recent ex wakes
up with a van? I mean, really, do you want?
Speaker 4 (11:10):
I don't want to know that? All right now we're
going to move on to p K. Kemsley.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
He's made a bold statement on his life amid divorce.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
Paul p K.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Kemsley is sharing a new look at his life today.
Amid his divorce from the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills
cast member Darree Kemsley. PK has been so incredibly busy
with his life and job as Boy Georgia's talent manager.
The UK native has taken to Instagram who hasn't over
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the past few months, where he revealed several new looks
at his life, including that he has been gearing up
for boy George's US tour, which by the way, begins
in February, hanging out with some old friends called pairing
the two children that he shares with Deret and ringing
in the new with his dad, Kenny Counseley. But p
(12:02):
K is ready for a break from his busy lifestyle,
so the entrepreneur took to his Instagram story on January fifteenth,
where he posted a photo of himself sitting against a bar,
looking directly into the camera with his salt and pepper
colored hair into a neat cooff dear life, he says,
(12:25):
I've had enough of the bull blankety blank, he wrote
over the photo.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Can we take a break? Please?
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Dreat and Pik are still married as their divorce has
not yet been finalized. The mom of two appeared on
Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen on January fifteenth,
where she revealed to host Andy Cohen that things are
still rough between her and her strange husband.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
You don't know how much I would love to be
sitting here.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
You asking me that question and say, yeah, Sandy, things
are so much better. This is coming from to read.
But she admitted that was not the case. No, she added,
shaking her head from side to side.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
I don't know, Susan.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
You got to respect her for not just going off.
You know, she's keeping it low key. She's not going
to announce it with Andy on TV.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Like. You got to respect that.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Yeah, but here, I mean, listen, public divorce is public divorce.
But you know she's not being all that above board either.
I believe she's told him or called him an alcoholic,
which you know he may or may not be. Here's
the thing, when you're in the public eye, when you're
on a public.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Television show, meaning you know, Beverly.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Housewives, Housewife's Beverly Hills, if you're in the public eye,
I'm sorry. I think it's asking a lot to your
fans who have put you where you are to say,
you know what, leave us alone, don't make any comments.
We want our privacy. You can have it both ways,
That's what I think.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Well you think o him.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Look in the camera and say, dear life, I've had
enough of this bullsh please, and she's just like no.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Well, and here's my thing. He might have had enough
of it. Does he want the paychecks to keep coming?
I'm guessing that, Okay, the next one. I'm tortured by
the next one because I love this guy, Like I
envisioned myself meeting this guy in of Starbucks and he's
the Dermott mulrooney. You having him said to me, you
(14:28):
are the girl that I've wanted my whole life.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Dancing with him at the wedding like this is my man.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
One of my favorite shows movies.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
Right.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Dermott settles divorce from Prima outside of court.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
You know he's sixty two for me.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
His own lawyer filed a declaration for an uncontested dissolution
of the marriage on Friday, January sixteenth, According to documents
obtained by People, The filing reveals that the cup reached
a settlement through meditation.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Outside of it's through mediation, mediation. I beg you for
I thought they were meditating.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Well, he probably probably needs to. I'm saying, first of all,
after they meditated and mediated, good for them that they
got it done outside of court, right, Good for them.
But all I want to know is where is he now?
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Stop? Stop? Wait?
Speaker 2 (15:27):
He also is representing himself, and I know that it
addresses payment of attorney fees, spousal and child support, as
well as custody and visitation matters regarding their two daughters. Unbelievable, Like,
I think that's kind of smart. Mabel Ray seventeen and
(15:47):
Sally june Is fifteen. Once a judge signs off, the
divorce will be finalized.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Okay, but here's the thing, it doesn't happen very often.
He filed in June of twenty twenty five, so six
months ago, after fifteen years of marriage, citing what most
people do, irreconcilable differences and listing the data separation as
TBD to be determined. In the initial filing, he asked
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that he and his soon to be ex wife split
attorney's fees and that they share joint physical and legal
custody of their minor children. Susan, you know, I have
not been divorced, but this is pretty standard. This is
pretty standard legal legally. You know we're gonna we're gonna
have joint custody. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Easy.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Nobody is asking for anything, not one is denying anything.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
They're not arguing over the children or the money.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Right, they use mediators not lawyers as they are friends.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
I love this, Okay, is amicable.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Can I just say to you, you know how long
they're going to stay friends. They're going to stay friends
until one of them meets somebody else.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
This, No, it does happen, Kathy, Well.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Listen, Can I just tell you when I meet him
at Starbucks in LA I don't care if he's got
twenty children, he is going to be mine.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
I mean, I hate to say.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
It was happier he got divorced, but this guy, ever
since my best friend's wedding, I was like, where is he?
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Where is he?
Speaker 1 (17:22):
And Lucky Julia Roberts that's million dollars smile.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Yeah, well I got one of those too. He's not
gonna be able to resist me.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Melissa Gilbert cries court as her husband Timothy is released
from jail WAF facing child's sex abuse charge.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Okay, So, after a two hour pre trial detention hearing
in New Mexico District Court on Tuesday, January twenty one,
a judge ruled at the sixty eight years old will
be released with conditions while he awaits trial as he
faces charges as child sex abius. All right, given the
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lack and this is what the judge had, given the
lack of a pattern involving children in this case, I
think that can be remedied through different conditions of release.
He said this in part while delivering his decision, quote,
I don't find that there's been sufficient presentation that this
defendant may commit new crimes in released pending trial. There's
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no evidence of a pattern of criminal conduct. There are
no similar allegations involving children in his past. There is
no evidence of non compliance with prior court orders. Rather,
this defendant self surrendered and submitted himself to the court jurisdiction,
demonstrating compliance with the court order for his arrest. The
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judge continued, I cannot find that the state is proven
by clear and convincing evidence that there are no release
conditions that would reasonably protect the safety of any younger
person in the community.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Let me just say to you, this is a.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Lot of legalese legal jargons saying there almost doesn't sound
like there is enough information to bring a court case
against him.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
What brought in there, Like, you gotta think about that.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Well, what brought him?
Speaker 3 (19:24):
There were two kids said years ago that he molested them,
but apparently they were fired on set for behavior cause
I don't know why they were fired. And you know,
now how many years later we're gonna take it to court.
After being released on his own recognizance, Busfield has been
ordered to appear for all his future court dates and
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is not allowed to possess any firearms or dangerous weapons,
consume any alcohol or illegal drugs, have contact with the
alleged victims or their families, discussed the case of any witnesses,
or have unsupervised contact with any minor children. The judge
is allowing Busfield to travel, but he will be under
the supervision of pre trial services in New Mexico and
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must notify the court of his address. Upon hearing the news,
Busfield's wife, Melissa Gilbert was seeing crime and whispering, thank
you God, it makes it gives me the chills, Susan.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
That sounds like she was being supportive.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Such she was, She wrote a letter to the judge.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Gilbert supported her husband from the courtroom, along with her
eighty nine year old mom, Barbara Cowan, and her son Michael,
and Busfield civil lawyer Larry Steen. Busfield's brother Buck Busfield
was also in.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Attendance at the hearing.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Gilbert previously voiced her support, told I just said this
or her husband in a letter.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
To the judge in this case.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
In the defendant's response in opposition to the state's motion
for pre trial detention fouled on January sixteenth, Gilbert was
one of seventy five I want you to hear that,
seventy five people who wrote letters of support. She called
Busfield my life, my rock, my partner in business and life,
adding that she knows him better and more intimately than
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anything in his life ever has. I'm trying to tow
a line between logic and all the frailings strolling around me.
I began this letter with logic, but now the feelings
have taken over. I can't help it, she wrote. I
only want this extraordinary man safe and whole. So I
will close by asking you to please please take care
of my sweet husband, as he is my protector. I
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am his, but I cannot protect him now, and I
think that, more than anything else, is what is truly
breaking my heart. I am relying on you to protect
him for me, and he first appeared. I know.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
It's amazing.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
He first appeared in front of a judge on Wednesday,
January fourteenth, after he was officially charged with two counts
of criminal sexual conduct of a minor that's a child
under thirteen and one kind of child abuse on January thirteenth,
according to prosecutors, Okay, here's what I got to say.
I want to hear your opinion. First of all, the
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fact that seventy five people came to him, he turned
himself in. You know, there was a worn't for his arrest.
He drove to turn himself in. Seventy five letters from
We're not talking the mailman and the guy that works
at the grocery store. These are seventy five people out
of Hollywood who are putting their names on the line
to protect this guy, to stand.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
Up for him. What do you think. I think it's
amazing myself. What do you think?
Speaker 2 (22:26):
I think it's outstanding that people actually believe in him
and believe him like this could have been a case
of people looking for money. They're going to say he
did something that he didn't. That's the problem here. So
many I could never be a judge. I think I've
said this to you before so many people. You're innocent
until proven guilty, but not really based.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
On what the judge says, there's no there's no grants.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
But anyone that gets a sexual abuse charge to a minor,
to a child, it's an automatic.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I hate you go to jail.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
They don't even give him the bet.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
That's why seventy five different people stood up for him.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Well, I mean, well, everyone's innocent. He'll proven guilty. Yes,
some brings a charge, they have to investigate it. But frankly,
for me, based on what the judge has said, he
said it's got no history of this. He is no
history to that. Like, where is this coming from? I
personally hope he gets off. I don't think it's true.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
For her to write that letter and her emotional part
taking over pleading with this judge. Some people like even
at like a death of a child, not comparing to this,
But some marriages get even closer together, where other marriages
it's like a big knife right down the middle.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
How do you feel this one's going.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
I think her support is going to make him love
her even more.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Well, you know that I hang around with a lot
of people in Hollywood and I and so I know
the ins and outs of this.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
That's a joke.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
But I think the fact that she wrote a letter
to the I think the fact that he turned himself
in and said this is preposterous and very calmly. I
think the fact that she from the very beginning, there
hasn't been one iota from her of questioning him, not one.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
She it defends him. Care for the man who's cared
for me.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
I think that'll make her marriage even stronger.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
I think they've been married, like, I don't know, close
to thirteen years, maybe fourteen. I think they have a
very close marriage. They both were married before they know
what it takes to make a strong marriage. I personally
think this is going to bring him closer together. I
think she's going to fight tooth and nail for his freedom.
And you know what, they have the money.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
If God forbid, it was you, okay, and somebody plant
that seed, you have to question that. I know you
love your husband, and I know you think's he's absolutely
not guilty, but there's got to be one moment of
oh my god, could he have or no way?
Speaker 3 (24:59):
You know what I'm saying, Well, I think it's yeah, no,
I think it's human nature to that to say, wait,
to maybe say for a fraction of a second season,
I might say what, and they're absolutely not, or have.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
A conversation with him.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
You No, never, No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
For me, it would probably just blurred out of my mouth,
even though I would not knew. Yeah, oh my god,
I did not do anything like this, did you?
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Yeah? I can hear you doing that.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
What I'm trying to say is I can't imagine being
married to someone and I know you can't either where
that would be the case. And remember, we don't know.
There is more to this story than what we know.
So given that, I'm guessing there is more to the
story of these kids that we're never going to know
unless it gets to court, and then we're going to
hear all kinds of things.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
And it depends on how big it is in court
and how loud it gets, whether it affects.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
The marriage or not.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
To certain things are said, questions that are asked, Sometimes
you just take a step back and go what the actual.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Okay, let's take a bet now.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
I don't think I think their marriage is going to
be a strong, if not stronger.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
What do you think that's what I'm hoping for?
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Yes, Okay, well, we're gonna keep watching this.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
I just I really don't think so.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
I hate to say it, but I feel I don't
know how much older these kids are now.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
But you said it earlier.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
I think sometimes people say something happened, you know, eighteen
years ago, and now he's got some money, I'm gonna
go after it, you know.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
So, so I don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
I think he's innocent. Let's pray that the judge thinks so.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
And it sounds by the way the judge is saying, look,
you're not doing any.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Harm or I'm going to go when all alts fails.
It's their third marriage and the third time is the charm.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Yeah, we'll say stick with that and that's your good
luck chart.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Really, oh man, let's get into Shannon and God rest
the soul. Doherty ex husband Kurt is challenging he challenges
(27:23):
the divorce settlement two years after her death. He said
he's filed legal documents, which people obtained in Los Angeles
Superior Court on January fourteenth, nearly two months after her estate,
said he has failed to fulfill several monetary obligations and
(27:47):
provisions of the settlement that the alleged alleged that the
divorce settlement, which was signed by her by Shannon on
July twelfth, twenty twenty four, and Kurt on the following day,
and was finalized just before her death on July thirteenth
(28:07):
that year. Was brought in the wrong court, Kathy. Because
of this, he claimed, the court has no jurisdiction to
enforce the terms of the agreement.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Okay, wait before we continue, Before we continue, let me
just say to you.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
You know, the US law is very particular, and people
win on on.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Technicalities all the time.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
That's what he's trying to do, right, Well, you know, Okay,
keep going here, Okay, well here, let me give you
some more. He further argued that the divorce case should
have been put to an end when Doherty died after
years long battle with Cancler and the settlement shouldn't have
even been filed per the legal documents. This comes after
(28:53):
Doherty's attorneys and Christopher Cortezzo, trustee of the Shannon Doherty
Family Trust, claimed in a filing on November twenty fourth,
that Israelanko still owes.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Money as part of the divorce settlement. Holy smokes.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
This included a provision for him to sell Doherty's one
point five million Texas home and equally divide the net
proceeds with her estate. However, the filing stated that he
has refused to list the Dripping Springs home for sale.
You understand I live twenty minutes from this home. I'm
going to go check it out and see if I
(29:28):
can get it, okay. The filing also claimed that a
photographer was to buy out Doherty's share of a Mooney
M twenty airplane for one hundred thousand and pay that
sum to her estate within five business days of the sale. However,
he allegedly unilaterally withheld fifty two hundred and seventy four
dollars from Doherty's estate after making the sale in August
(29:51):
of twenty twenty four, and as you have to pay
the SUN and.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
D Her attorneys noted that that he has also refused
to return Doherty's items of personal property, including photographs of her,
which was another provision of the divorce settlement.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Why couldn't make any photos of her?
Speaker 4 (30:15):
Keep going?
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I don't get that part.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
I got thoughts, Keep going.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (30:22):
He contended in his January fourteenth filing that Cortezza can't
Cortano failed to show he has authority under the trust
to have even introduced the motion in the first place.
Doherty filed for divorce in twenty twenty three after eleven
(30:45):
years of marriage. I'm believed her representation, Leslie Sloane, told
people in a statement at the time, divorce is the
last thing Shannon wanted. Unfortunately, she felt she was left
with no other option.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Okay, what he's trying to do.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Can I just say to you, you know who wins
in these cases, not the not the estate of the deceased,
and not her ex husband.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
The lawyers, that's the wins.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
They're going to argue point after poor, legality over legality,
and anyone you know, is he supposed to send the money?
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Is he's supposed to Is the divorce supposed to happen?
Speaker 1 (31:30):
The interrupt for one second.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
So she passes before they sell the one point five
million dollar home in Texas. If we divide the proceeds
with her estate, Okay, she passed, her estate gets happened.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
He gets halp, Is that with this is?
Speaker 3 (31:51):
I mean, last time I checked my legal decree from
the law school.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
I intended in Texas.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
I don't know if you go way back up to
the this whole story began.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
He refused to list it.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
He's contending it was filed in the wrong court and
the court has no jurisdiction to enforce the terms of
the agreement. So you know whether or not, I think
it's all going to be rewound to whether the court
has jurisdiction, and if they don't have jurisdiction, and if
they she died inadvertently, you know, she died before everything
(32:24):
was finalized and then and then filed in the wrong court.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
By the letter of the law, he may inherit everything.
You know, it's it made just technicality.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Listen, where I live, A guy just won a quarter
of a million dollars on it in RhoA on a technicality.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
To make sure a slow year roll dot your eyes
and cross every tea.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
I'm just saying, it's like, you know what I want
to do. I want to go. Literally, Dripping Springs is
twenty minutes from.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Where I live, and I wonder why, you know why
he's refused to list the home. I mean, he's not
living in it, so but I guess the money would
go to the estate.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Your backer pictures like, what is that about?
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Well, I think I think Susan that if it's I
think he does not want to honor.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
This is my guest.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
I'm not a lawyer. He doesn't want to honor any
aspect of the divorce screen because if you honor one
part of it, you got to honor the rest of it.
He's saying they have no right to tell him to
give him back. I don't think he wants him. I
think he's arguing it again as a point of law.
And you know, I wanted to go to law school.
I wish I had gone so I could work on
this case.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
I would be her in a courtroom. I'd walk out
and say, Okay, it's all you may so.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Out of everything we covered today, you know what really
sticks in my mind what I never got a divorce ring.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
I want to do that tweet. You didn't get a
divorce ring.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
You didn't get a tattoo, you didn't have a divorce party.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Bracelets.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
I told you all the bracelets on my arm every
time I did a guy and it doesn't work out.
That's what you and I started to We keep buying bracelets.
The hell the hell would The ring men are dumb.
They see a ring with diamonds on your hand, they
think you're unavailable.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Both of the bracelets I don't know. Let me just
say one thing that I really want to say.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Divorce sucks. We all know that it's hard. It's rarely amicable.
You had one, but it rarely is amicable. And I
feel sorry for celebrities because not only are they having
to navigate the rough roads of financial emotional, they're doing
it in the public eye.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Yes, we now know what that's like, Kathy.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Everything we do, we're scrutinized in the on social media,
a lot of good positive things, but imagine doing saying
these things what social media has to say.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Well, I want to continue watching how these guys get
through chapter two.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
I want to be invited to a divorce party.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
I want to see if they start dating, what they
do with all this jewelry and tattoos when they find
the next man or woman of the dreams?
Speaker 4 (35:00):
What do they do? What do they do? Get a
big X through through the tattoo and give the ring.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
The diamond better be big enough to cover that tattoo.
That's all. That's a no brainer. And Dan, this was
a lot to cover.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
But I think we can all learn a lot from
just hearing how other people, even celebrities, navigate through Chapter two.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Really.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
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Speaker 2 (35:34):
I Do Part two and iHeartRadio podcast where falling in
love is the main objective
Hey, I do Part two.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
It's your celebrity mentor Susan Noles and Batty Schwartz from
The Golden Bachelor in our podcast Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
And we have a lot to cover in today's news.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
We're talking divorce trends, splits in so much more in
chapter two.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
You ready to get into this.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
We got to get into it, and we have got
to start. Have you heard about this new trend with
divorce rings, how women are celebrating their breakups. I can't, Susan.
I mean they're having they're repurposing engagement rings, they're doing parties, tattoos,
wild home renovations like what just happened to simple divorce?
Speaker 4 (01:05):
I don't know. What do you think about it?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
British Vogue is all about it. It's written up in there,
so it is a thing.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
I mean, we all know if Vogue says that it
must be true, right, So here's what I'm hearing about it.
They're putting it a ring on their fingers.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Sometimes it's made of metal.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Sometimes they're you know, repurposing their engagement ring. Remember they
talked about conscious uncoupling.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Yes, well now we're doing like conscious unhitching with jewelry.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I mean, I don't know, you know what all celebrate
when we get married and we get a wedding ring,
And why be miserable at your divorce. Let's celebrate it
and put a sign on there that I'm divorced. Sometimes
I think they even tattoo.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Well, here's the thing. I think a lot of women are.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
You know, they're having parties, they're bringing their force attorneys state,
they all get together. I think it's a new way
of building community for the divorce women that are, frankly
a larger and larger part of our community. I don't know,
I'm not sure that we'll talk about my ring in
(02:19):
a minute, but go ahead.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
What were you gonna say?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
The girl and gone girl?
Speaker 4 (02:23):
That model Emily Radikalska.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
She celebrated her divorce from Sebastian Bear macclair with not one,
but two rings that incorporated the diamonds from her engagement ring.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
So this is like a new sport.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
I mean, you know, this is called new recycling.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Why sell a diamond ring for a quarter of its value?
Why not just have a new ring made?
Speaker 4 (02:53):
But I got to tell you so.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
In Vogue they go on to talk about jewelers are
making these rings like it is a thing. Now bind
a ring, wearing it proudly, a lavish I don't know,
a divorce ring.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
You wear it on the same finger, or I'd probably
wear it on my middle finger because i won't want
somebody else to think I'm not taking So.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
It's a whole new thing for social media. Flash your ice,
your new ice on social media. But here's what I
want to know. If I'm gonna wear one, and I'm
surprised you wouldn't say this, do you know what finger
I'd wear it on? And I think a lot of
women are doing this the middle one because it can
it sends a message in so many ways.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
I don't know. I don't know what I think about.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Did you hear there's divorce cakes, divorce party games?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
I mean, pin the tail on the X anyone?
Speaker 4 (03:52):
I don't what do you think about it? Though?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Like, I'm not sure? So you know I'm a widow
your divorce? What'd you do with your diamond ring?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Actually my kids benefited from it because the Centerson, my
first son was getting engaged and he couldn't afford what
he wanted, so I gave him that My at first
my daughter had it, and then they that didn't work out,
and I had it set in a Christopher had it
set in a ring for Jessica, my daughter in law.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Well how about you, Well, yours wasn't a Morris obviously
my husband died.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I it's funny. I wear my diamond ring on my
right hand. But you know what I've noticed and aren't
so smart they can't tell right now, They're like, oh,
she's married, So I've stopped wearing it.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
If I go out, I just wear like nothing on.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
A necklace or have a bracelet mate or something.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I don't know because I'm you know what I'm going
to do with that. I'm going to give it to
my granddaughter.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Okay, we'll see eventually.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
But but wait, we're not just so. It's not just
rings that people are doing. They there's paintings, like doing
their own mural. Apparently Jessica Alba did one after filing
for divorce from her husband Cash Warren, Like, I want
to burn it.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
That one broke my heart. I love them together. Nicole
Kidman and Keith Urban.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
And Jennifer Aniston Andreith Rereith's Witherspoon are said to be
throwing a big one for her after her split.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Okay, but here's the thing. Here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
When the celebration's over, let's let's let's go here, Susan.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
We got we got our divorce rings, we've got our tattoos,
We've had our parties, we've had a mural, We've got
a tattoo that some of them are doing that says
life is transformation is life?
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Like? Okay, once we've done all this and.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
You know we've we hate the man, We've made it
in all of our social media.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
We're done. When do we come back around to?
Speaker 3 (06:01):
And maybe not him, but you know, maybe I want
to get married again. I mean, if I were a guy,
I'd like, I'm not touch her with a ten foot fall.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
She's gonna have me on a billboard somewhere.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
And also, Kathy, this is saying that both parties wanted
the divorce to have a celebration like this. That means
both Sometimes that does happen and they they agree they're
not meant to be and they go their separate ways.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
That I can understand. How like this well person sad
over it.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
I don't think husband and wives are having these party
divorcees are having this party together. I think Jennifer Aniston,
Nicole Kinman, these women are having these parties.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
I do not think.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I do not think the X or Y chromosome, whichever
one men is.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
That men are. I think they're X. They're not invited.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
But I'm just saying it's it's uh, it's a lot.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
I mean, it is a lot.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Didn't Rachel Zoe from the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills
just do this?
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Yeah, she was married over twenty years. You know what
it says to me?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Honestly, it's like I'd rather I mean, this is a
big public statement about divorce. I hate you. I'm going
to have a party. I'm going to tack tooo how
much I hate you. Then I'm going to burn something
in effigy of you.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I don't think of the focus like that. Like for me,
for instance, we're really good friends. We do things together
still with our grandkids. And also not everybody is the
I hate ours was more like we can't.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Yeah, we are.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Also, with all due respect, you're not Nicole Kidman, You're
not Jefferson, You're not in you know, they have children,
they have I heard the funniest thing the other day
about Nicole Kidman's divorce from Keith Urban, Like, yeah, he's
you know, I let me just say publicly.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I don't think i'd want to do it.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
I get it, they're public, but we got to move
on to the next one.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Okay, else split you're ready?
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Yep?
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I o'cook and Amanda Bachelor announced their separation after four.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Years of marriage. We're going to go their separate ways.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
They post it to their Instagram stories on Monday till nineteenth.
What they say, we have mutually and amicably decided to
part ways as a couple. We share this heavy heart
and kindly ask for your grace and support while we
focus on our personal growth and healing. And it feels
(08:34):
ironic for them to ask for privacy when their whole
marriage was public.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Right, Yeah, but they say, they said, it feels ironic
to ask for privacy during this time, since we've always
tried to be open and honest about our relationship. But
your kindness and respect will go a long way as
we try to navigate our chapter. And the statement concluded
with him signing a man and Kyle.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
He's forty three thirty four. They got engaged in and
tied the knot in twenty one. It was actually postponed
due to COVID and it.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Was right here in Jersey, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
And throughout their relationship, which was documented on Summerhouse, pair
has been open about their struggles. In season three of
the Bravo series, which aired in March of twenty nineteen,
Cook confessed to cheating on her, claiming the blackout during
(09:33):
the guy's trip and woke up with a girl in
his bed, and recent rumors that they had split began
to squirrel when Bachelor claimed that Cook spent the night
at a fans apartment in the.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Trailer for season ten of Summerhouse.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Come on, I mean, yeah, Kyle was sleeping some fans apartment.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
It came home at like six thirty in the morning.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I mean seriously, so so Amanda. You know, she's told
Clara Miller and Lindsey Hubbard there expressing their disapproval. That's
like saying the sun rises in the east. I mean,
but here's the thing. They're young.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Cook's forty three, she's thirty four. They're young. It's public.
It shouldn't be public.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Well, their whole I mean else was public, so why
shouldn't that be public.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Well, that's what humor's about, the masking now for privacy.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
My advice to them do it nice and move on.
Thirty four years old, you got a whole life ahead
of you, right.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
My advice is, get out of the limelight anyway you can.
Do not take out a billboard, do not burn an effigy,
do not.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Is she going to get a divorce ring?
Speaker 3 (10:50):
I would know she's going to join Jennifer Anson the
rest of the crew and have a big party. I
got to say, though, Susan, it's got to be difficult
for these Hollywood people to you know, do you want
it publicly known that your husband, a recent ex wakes
up with a van? I mean, really, do you want?
Speaker 4 (11:10):
I don't want to know that? All right now we're
going to move on to p K. Kemsley.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
He's made a bold statement on his life amid divorce.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
Paul p K.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Kemsley is sharing a new look at his life today.
Amid his divorce from the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills
cast member Darree Kemsley. PK has been so incredibly busy
with his life and job as Boy Georgia's talent manager.
The UK native has taken to Instagram who hasn't over
(11:42):
the past few months, where he revealed several new looks
at his life, including that he has been gearing up
for boy George's US tour, which by the way, begins
in February, hanging out with some old friends called pairing
the two children that he shares with Deret and ringing
in the new with his dad, Kenny Counseley. But p
(12:02):
K is ready for a break from his busy lifestyle,
so the entrepreneur took to his Instagram story on January fifteenth,
where he posted a photo of himself sitting against a bar,
looking directly into the camera with his salt and pepper
colored hair into a neat cooff dear life, he says,
(12:25):
I've had enough of the bull blankety blank, he wrote
over the photo.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Can we take a break? Please?
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Dreat and Pik are still married as their divorce has
not yet been finalized. The mom of two appeared on
Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen on January fifteenth,
where she revealed to host Andy Cohen that things are
still rough between her and her strange husband.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
You don't know how much I would love to be
sitting here.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
You asking me that question and say, yeah, Sandy, things
are so much better. This is coming from to read.
But she admitted that was not the case. No, she added,
shaking her head from side to side.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
I don't know, Susan.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
You got to respect her for not just going off.
You know, she's keeping it low key. She's not going
to announce it with Andy on TV.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Like. You got to respect that.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Yeah, but here, I mean, listen, public divorce is public divorce.
But you know she's not being all that above board either.
I believe she's told him or called him an alcoholic,
which you know he may or may not be. Here's
the thing, when you're in the public eye, when you're
on a public.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Television show, meaning you know, Beverly.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Housewives, Housewife's Beverly Hills, if you're in the public eye,
I'm sorry. I think it's asking a lot to your
fans who have put you where you are to say,
you know what, leave us alone, don't make any comments.
We want our privacy. You can have it both ways,
That's what I think.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Well you think o him.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Look in the camera and say, dear life, I've had
enough of this bullsh please, and she's just like no.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Well, and here's my thing. He might have had enough
of it. Does he want the paychecks to keep coming?
I'm guessing that, Okay, the next one. I'm tortured by
the next one because I love this guy, Like I
envisioned myself meeting this guy in of Starbucks and he's
the Dermott mulrooney. You having him said to me, you
(14:28):
are the girl that I've wanted my whole life.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Dancing with him at the wedding like this is my man.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
One of my favorite shows movies.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
Right.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Dermott settles divorce from Prima outside of court.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
You know he's sixty two for me.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
His own lawyer filed a declaration for an uncontested dissolution
of the marriage on Friday, January sixteenth, According to documents
obtained by People, The filing reveals that the cup reached
a settlement through meditation.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Outside of it's through mediation, mediation. I beg you for
I thought they were meditating.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Well, he probably probably needs to. I'm saying, first of all,
after they meditated and mediated, good for them that they
got it done outside of court, right, Good for them.
But all I want to know is where is he now?
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Stop? Stop? Wait?
Speaker 2 (15:27):
He also is representing himself, and I know that it
addresses payment of attorney fees, spousal and child support, as
well as custody and visitation matters regarding their two daughters. Unbelievable, Like,
I think that's kind of smart. Mabel Ray seventeen and
(15:47):
Sally june Is fifteen. Once a judge signs off, the
divorce will be finalized.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Okay, but here's the thing, it doesn't happen very often.
He filed in June of twenty twenty five, so six
months ago, after fifteen years of marriage, citing what most
people do, irreconcilable differences and listing the data separation as
TBD to be determined. In the initial filing, he asked
(16:15):
that he and his soon to be ex wife split
attorney's fees and that they share joint physical and legal
custody of their minor children. Susan, you know, I have
not been divorced, but this is pretty standard. This is
pretty standard legal legally. You know we're gonna we're gonna
have joint custody. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Easy.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Nobody is asking for anything, not one is denying anything.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
They're not arguing over the children or the money.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Right, they use mediators not lawyers as they are friends.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
I love this, Okay, is amicable.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Can I just say to you, you know how long
they're going to stay friends. They're going to stay friends
until one of them meets somebody else.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
This, No, it does happen, Kathy, Well.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Listen, Can I just tell you when I meet him
at Starbucks in LA I don't care if he's got
twenty children, he is going to be mine.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
I mean, I hate to say.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
It was happier he got divorced, but this guy, ever
since my best friend's wedding, I was like, where is he?
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Where is he?
Speaker 1 (17:22):
And Lucky Julia Roberts that's million dollars smile.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Yeah, well I got one of those too. He's not
gonna be able to resist me.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Melissa Gilbert cries court as her husband Timothy is released
from jail WAF facing child's sex abuse charge.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Okay, So, after a two hour pre trial detention hearing
in New Mexico District Court on Tuesday, January twenty one,
a judge ruled at the sixty eight years old will
be released with conditions while he awaits trial as he
faces charges as child sex abius. All right, given the
(18:14):
lack and this is what the judge had, given the
lack of a pattern involving children in this case, I
think that can be remedied through different conditions of release.
He said this in part while delivering his decision, quote,
I don't find that there's been sufficient presentation that this
defendant may commit new crimes in released pending trial. There's
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no evidence of a pattern of criminal conduct. There are
no similar allegations involving children in his past. There is
no evidence of non compliance with prior court orders. Rather,
this defendant self surrendered and submitted himself to the court jurisdiction,
demonstrating compliance with the court order for his arrest. The
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judge continued, I cannot find that the state is proven
by clear and convincing evidence that there are no release
conditions that would reasonably protect the safety of any younger
person in the community.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Let me just say to you, this is a.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Lot of legalese legal jargons saying there almost doesn't sound
like there is enough information to bring a court case
against him.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
What brought in there, Like, you gotta think about that.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Well, what brought him?
Speaker 3 (19:24):
There were two kids said years ago that he molested them,
but apparently they were fired on set for behavior cause
I don't know why they were fired. And you know,
now how many years later we're gonna take it to court.
After being released on his own recognizance, Busfield has been
ordered to appear for all his future court dates and
(19:47):
is not allowed to possess any firearms or dangerous weapons,
consume any alcohol or illegal drugs, have contact with the
alleged victims or their families, discussed the case of any witnesses,
or have unsupervised contact with any minor children. The judge
is allowing Busfield to travel, but he will be under
the supervision of pre trial services in New Mexico and
(20:09):
must notify the court of his address. Upon hearing the news,
Busfield's wife, Melissa Gilbert was seeing crime and whispering, thank
you God, it makes it gives me the chills, Susan.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
That sounds like she was being supportive.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Such she was, She wrote a letter to the judge.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Gilbert supported her husband from the courtroom, along with her
eighty nine year old mom, Barbara Cowan, and her son Michael,
and Busfield civil lawyer Larry Steen. Busfield's brother Buck Busfield
was also in.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Attendance at the hearing.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Gilbert previously voiced her support, told I just said this
or her husband in a letter.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
To the judge in this case.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
In the defendant's response in opposition to the state's motion
for pre trial detention fouled on January sixteenth, Gilbert was
one of seventy five I want you to hear that,
seventy five people who wrote letters of support. She called
Busfield my life, my rock, my partner in business and life,
adding that she knows him better and more intimately than
(21:06):
anything in his life ever has. I'm trying to tow
a line between logic and all the frailings strolling around me.
I began this letter with logic, but now the feelings
have taken over. I can't help it, she wrote. I
only want this extraordinary man safe and whole. So I
will close by asking you to please please take care
of my sweet husband, as he is my protector. I
(21:28):
am his, but I cannot protect him now, and I
think that, more than anything else, is what is truly
breaking my heart. I am relying on you to protect
him for me, and he first appeared. I know.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
It's amazing.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
He first appeared in front of a judge on Wednesday,
January fourteenth, after he was officially charged with two counts
of criminal sexual conduct of a minor that's a child
under thirteen and one kind of child abuse on January thirteenth,
according to prosecutors, Okay, here's what I got to say.
I want to hear your opinion. First of all, the
(22:02):
fact that seventy five people came to him, he turned
himself in. You know, there was a worn't for his arrest.
He drove to turn himself in. Seventy five letters from
We're not talking the mailman and the guy that works
at the grocery store. These are seventy five people out
of Hollywood who are putting their names on the line
to protect this guy, to stand.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
Up for him. What do you think. I think it's
amazing myself. What do you think?
Speaker 2 (22:26):
I think it's outstanding that people actually believe in him
and believe him like this could have been a case
of people looking for money. They're going to say he
did something that he didn't. That's the problem here. So
many I could never be a judge. I think I've
said this to you before so many people. You're innocent
until proven guilty, but not really based.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
On what the judge says, there's no there's no grants.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
But anyone that gets a sexual abuse charge to a minor,
to a child, it's an automatic.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I hate you go to jail.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
They don't even give him the bet.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
That's why seventy five different people stood up for him.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Well, I mean, well, everyone's innocent. He'll proven guilty. Yes,
some brings a charge, they have to investigate it. But frankly,
for me, based on what the judge has said, he
said it's got no history of this. He is no
history to that. Like, where is this coming from? I
personally hope he gets off. I don't think it's true.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
For her to write that letter and her emotional part
taking over pleading with this judge. Some people like even
at like a death of a child, not comparing to this,
But some marriages get even closer together, where other marriages
it's like a big knife right down the middle.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
How do you feel this one's going.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
I think her support is going to make him love
her even more.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Well, you know that I hang around with a lot
of people in Hollywood and I and so I know
the ins and outs of this.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
That's a joke.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
But I think the fact that she wrote a letter
to the I think the fact that he turned himself
in and said this is preposterous and very calmly. I
think the fact that she from the very beginning, there
hasn't been one iota from her of questioning him, not one.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
She it defends him. Care for the man who's cared
for me.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
I think that'll make her marriage even stronger.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
I think they've been married, like, I don't know, close
to thirteen years, maybe fourteen. I think they have a
very close marriage. They both were married before they know
what it takes to make a strong marriage. I personally
think this is going to bring him closer together. I
think she's going to fight tooth and nail for his freedom.
And you know what, they have the money.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
If God forbid, it was you, okay, and somebody plant
that seed, you have to question that. I know you
love your husband, and I know you think's he's absolutely
not guilty, but there's got to be one moment of
oh my god, could he have or no way?
Speaker 3 (24:59):
You know what I'm saying, Well, I think it's yeah, no,
I think it's human nature to that to say, wait,
to maybe say for a fraction of a second season,
I might say what, and they're absolutely not, or have.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
A conversation with him.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
You No, never, No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
For me, it would probably just blurred out of my mouth,
even though I would not knew. Yeah, oh my god,
I did not do anything like this, did you?
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Yeah? I can hear you doing that.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
What I'm trying to say is I can't imagine being
married to someone and I know you can't either where
that would be the case. And remember, we don't know.
There is more to this story than what we know.
So given that, I'm guessing there is more to the
story of these kids that we're never going to know
unless it gets to court, and then we're going to
hear all kinds of things.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
And it depends on how big it is in court
and how loud it gets, whether it affects.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
The marriage or not.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
To certain things are said, questions that are asked, Sometimes
you just take a step back and go what the actual.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Okay, let's take a bet now.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
I don't think I think their marriage is going to
be a strong, if not stronger.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
What do you think that's what I'm hoping for?
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Yes, Okay, well, we're gonna keep watching this.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
I just I really don't think so.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
I hate to say it, but I feel I don't
know how much older these kids are now.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
But you said it earlier.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
I think sometimes people say something happened, you know, eighteen
years ago, and now he's got some money, I'm gonna
go after it, you know.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
So, so I don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
I think he's innocent. Let's pray that the judge thinks so.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
And it sounds by the way the judge is saying, look,
you're not doing any.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Harm or I'm going to go when all alts fails.
It's their third marriage and the third time is the charm.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Yeah, we'll say stick with that and that's your good
luck chart.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Really, oh man, let's get into Shannon and God rest
the soul. Doherty ex husband Kurt is challenging he challenges
(27:23):
the divorce settlement two years after her death. He said
he's filed legal documents, which people obtained in Los Angeles
Superior Court on January fourteenth, nearly two months after her estate,
said he has failed to fulfill several monetary obligations and
(27:47):
provisions of the settlement that the alleged alleged that the
divorce settlement, which was signed by her by Shannon on
July twelfth, twenty twenty four, and Kurt on the following day,
and was finalized just before her death on July thirteenth
(28:07):
that year. Was brought in the wrong court, Kathy. Because
of this, he claimed, the court has no jurisdiction to
enforce the terms of the agreement.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Okay, wait before we continue, Before we continue, let me
just say to you.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
You know, the US law is very particular, and people
win on on.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Technicalities all the time.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
That's what he's trying to do, right, Well, you know, Okay,
keep going here, Okay, well here, let me give you
some more. He further argued that the divorce case should
have been put to an end when Doherty died after
years long battle with Cancler and the settlement shouldn't have
even been filed per the legal documents. This comes after
(28:53):
Doherty's attorneys and Christopher Cortezzo, trustee of the Shannon Doherty
Family Trust, claimed in a filing on November twenty fourth,
that Israelanko still owes.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Money as part of the divorce settlement. Holy smokes.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
This included a provision for him to sell Doherty's one
point five million Texas home and equally divide the net
proceeds with her estate. However, the filing stated that he
has refused to list the Dripping Springs home for sale.
You understand I live twenty minutes from this home. I'm
going to go check it out and see if I
(29:28):
can get it, okay. The filing also claimed that a
photographer was to buy out Doherty's share of a Mooney
M twenty airplane for one hundred thousand and pay that
sum to her estate within five business days of the sale. However,
he allegedly unilaterally withheld fifty two hundred and seventy four
dollars from Doherty's estate after making the sale in August
(29:51):
of twenty twenty four, and as you have to pay
the SUN and.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
D Her attorneys noted that that he has also refused
to return Doherty's items of personal property, including photographs of her,
which was another provision of the divorce settlement.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Why couldn't make any photos of her?
Speaker 4 (30:15):
Keep going?
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I don't get that part.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
I got thoughts, Keep going.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (30:22):
He contended in his January fourteenth filing that Cortezza can't
Cortano failed to show he has authority under the trust
to have even introduced the motion in the first place.
Doherty filed for divorce in twenty twenty three after eleven
(30:45):
years of marriage. I'm believed her representation, Leslie Sloane, told
people in a statement at the time, divorce is the
last thing Shannon wanted. Unfortunately, she felt she was left
with no other option.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Okay, what he's trying to do.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Can I just say to you, you know who wins
in these cases, not the not the estate of the deceased,
and not her ex husband.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
The lawyers, that's the wins.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
They're going to argue point after poor, legality over legality,
and anyone you know, is he supposed to send the money?
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Is he's supposed to Is the divorce supposed to happen?
Speaker 1 (31:30):
The interrupt for one second.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
So she passes before they sell the one point five
million dollar home in Texas. If we divide the proceeds
with her estate, Okay, she passed, her estate gets happened.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
He gets halp, Is that with this is?
Speaker 3 (31:51):
I mean, last time I checked my legal decree from
the law school.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
I intended in Texas.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
I don't know if you go way back up to
the this whole story began.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
He refused to list it.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
He's contending it was filed in the wrong court and
the court has no jurisdiction to enforce the terms of
the agreement. So you know whether or not, I think
it's all going to be rewound to whether the court
has jurisdiction, and if they don't have jurisdiction, and if
they she died inadvertently, you know, she died before everything
(32:24):
was finalized and then and then filed in the wrong court.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
By the letter of the law, he may inherit everything.
You know, it's it made just technicality.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Listen, where I live, A guy just won a quarter
of a million dollars on it in RhoA on a technicality.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
To make sure a slow year roll dot your eyes
and cross every tea.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
I'm just saying, it's like, you know what I want
to do. I want to go. Literally, Dripping Springs is
twenty minutes from.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Where I live, and I wonder why, you know why
he's refused to list the home. I mean, he's not
living in it, so but I guess the money would
go to the estate.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Your backer pictures like, what is that about?
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Well, I think I think Susan that if it's I
think he does not want to honor.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
This is my guest.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
I'm not a lawyer. He doesn't want to honor any
aspect of the divorce screen because if you honor one
part of it, you got to honor the rest of it.
He's saying they have no right to tell him to
give him back. I don't think he wants him. I
think he's arguing it again as a point of law.
And you know, I wanted to go to law school.
I wish I had gone so I could work on
this case.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
I would be her in a courtroom. I'd walk out
and say, Okay, it's all you may so.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Out of everything we covered today, you know what really
sticks in my mind what I never got a divorce ring.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
I want to do that tweet. You didn't get a
divorce ring.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
You didn't get a tattoo, you didn't have a divorce party.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Bracelets.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
I told you all the bracelets on my arm every
time I did a guy and it doesn't work out.
That's what you and I started to We keep buying bracelets.
The hell the hell would The ring men are dumb.
They see a ring with diamonds on your hand, they
think you're unavailable.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Both of the bracelets I don't know. Let me just
say one thing that I really want to say.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Divorce sucks. We all know that it's hard. It's rarely amicable.
You had one, but it rarely is amicable. And I
feel sorry for celebrities because not only are they having
to navigate the rough roads of financial emotional, they're doing
it in the public eye.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Yes, we now know what that's like, Kathy.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Everything we do, we're scrutinized in the on social media,
a lot of good positive things, but imagine doing saying
these things what social media has to say.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Well, I want to continue watching how these guys get
through chapter two.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
I want to be invited to a divorce party.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
I want to see if they start dating, what they
do with all this jewelry and tattoos when they find
the next man or woman of the dreams?
Speaker 4 (35:00):
What do they do? What do they do? Get a
big X through through the tattoo and give the ring.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
The diamond better be big enough to cover that tattoo.
That's all. That's a no brainer. And Dan, this was
a lot to cover.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
But I think we can all learn a lot from
just hearing how other people, even celebrities, navigate through Chapter two.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Really.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
If you need some advice, call us or email us.
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