Rap Radar: Fat Joe & Mayor

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, rap rate our podcast, Elliott Wilson, this just beat out,
beat out.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
What's up? Baby?

Speaker 3 (00:04):
Going good?

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Ellie? How you I'm good? Brother?

Speaker 4 (00:07):
You know it's always good. We always feel good when
we have some good episodes.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Man.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
We got somebody assist in that chair and knows how
to conduct themselves and be talkative and bring life to
their points and you know, funny, some humors, some insight.
And I think that we had that last episode with
our guy, Sauce Sauce Walker.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Man, that guy knows how to talk. Man.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
You guys said, we think we think we had like
seven questions basically at least at least seven, maybe eight.
But no, you know it's always good. We had like
you said, I got talking. Guess you know that you
can definitely elucidate his points and you know, get his
message out.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
So shouts to Sauce Walker, and I was that was
a fun conversation. He was super cool and the fans
is loving him.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Man.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
I think we might we probably should have been and
done him a long time ago. Man with late passed
late passed for the raparated our boys, right, I think
it was. I think it's kind of right on time though,
But you know, coming off with Ghetto Gospel three, I
think we should have like did it maybe a little
bit closer. But I'm happy with all the timing of
it now. So yeah, it was crazy when something he
had met me back in the day. Somebody has sent
me the photo. So it basically was in Houston in

(01:08):
twenty fourteen. Like I said, Debbie dev had put together
something for me down.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
There to meet like the Houston community when she was
a member. She was a radio in Houston. Yeah, for sure,
the beat So I did that.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
I came out there and there's a shot. It's like
a young sauce walker like in the corner. It's crazy man. Yes,
the archives crazy man. I'm like, yeah, he got a
low cut, you know, even had the dreads.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
So and they said that's what he began a whole
lee and then the dripping and the splash and look
at the man. This guy's big time. Now we got
receipts our hereo.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
Right, we'd be outside, man, be outside all.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
The day, man work.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
But things will always go smoothly beat out as you know. Man,
this episode was under a lot of the stress man.
The stress man, a lot of things went left for
this one. Before we got to go all right, they
went left, but then they turned right, man, and everything
worked out, you know the way they tended to beat Man,
but it shouts to uh, fat.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Joe and Man Joe, Fat Joe and Mayor they saved
the day. Man.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
You know you fellow podcasters can relate. All of a sudden,
you get a last minute cancelation. You're scrambling, You got
the studio booking and trying to get somebody in the chair.
These episodes ain't cheap make and it ain't easy. If
then anything, we just call our superstars and they just
pop up.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
It's just easy, breezy but no.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
But but it's crazy though, I did you know, we're
scrambling trying to get I guess somebody to fill the seat.
And then out of know, if Vida just pulls Fat
Joe out of nowhere, Man, how you get Fat Joe
last minute?

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Like that? The god Fat Joe. I needn't do that.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Relationships are worth more than money, you know. And I
was just thinking, like, who can we get that's here
locally in New York. That's a good conversation. And I was,
you know, going down my mental roller decks and I
was like, what about Joe. Joe's around, He's back in
New York. You know who doesn't love Fat Joe, especially
coming off as a moment at Hip Hop fifty at
the Yankee Stadium. Yeah, he say he had the best

(02:54):
week ever.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Man.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
I thought about what about Mayor, because you know Mayor
is always hanging with Fat Joe. Mayor's like to Sneak
or King. You know, they're like one A, one B.
You know, it's terra squad. So it's like, yo, what
let me just give a call Fat Joe and see
what's good. I called him, said, your big debuty address.
That's what I'm saying. Like I always say that. I
always say, like I always say, with us, we both

(03:17):
have our own separate relations with these artists, right, Like
I always say it with Jay or somebody, but like
even Joe, Like I'm I'm old as Joe.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Right.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
We and Joe know each other since the early nineties.
But at my report with him and Beat that has
his own report with these artists. Man, it's crazy. Yeah,
I love it. It's crazy, man, But you know, everything
worked out. Joe came in like within an hour. He
said he wasn't dressed. May came within, you know, a
couple of minutes after him, and you know, everything worked out,
And shout out to whoever the designers of the T

(03:43):
shirt you're going to see Fat Joe wearing because he
didn't even know what it was.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
So well, whoever gave him that shirt.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
It's about to tag our Instagram relentlessly because it's a
major look. But yeah, like you said, though, if you
really think about it, who epitomizes hip hop fifty more
than Fat Joe in the sense of like being from
the broad speaking from the birthplace. You know, you know,
he's a graffiti rider like he epitomized the culture in
so many different ways. Man, So I'm surprised we should

(04:10):
have just thought of it in general. But it's so
great that you know, you thought of it and he
came through for us like an awesome, major, major hookup. Man.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah, man, he was more here popped in Fat Joe.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
We haven't had him on a pod since what maybe,
like you like five six years ago?

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Almost, Yeah, that was with Rebi mand I was going
back to that.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
That was what we're doing, the CBS era of the
pod and like I always remember that, like Fad you
had this some overseas show yep, and he was in Australia.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
It was in Australia and he did.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
A bad I have found a clip on YouTube of
him doing the show in Australia. He had did a teaser,
like an opening verse up all the way up.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
It wasn't done yet, right, And then I remember you
telling me he was like, yo, fat, Joe got this song.
It sounds like it could be something blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Yep, and then like it he came all the way
up then, which was like his biggest records is Lean Back.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
It's crazy, but I always credit you man. You was
so coming.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
And remember they took it off the YouTube and I
was like, wait, what happened to that thing that was
on YouTube? And then right next you know, they put
it out and oh you've seen it. Our god if
petty king Drake, he's not just mad.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
At me that Joe went on his uh. Joe went
on his uh.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
His live y g was saying out he gets jealous
of Drake and Drake it's all these gifts from like,
you know, billionaires and all these guys.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
So I think Joe, I think Drake tapped him.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
Back and sent him like some the socks, like some steak.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Socks, but you know, the rmories and his white He
reveals that the interview is that Drake really wanted to
be on the all the way up remixed.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
That's crazy. Well you got to say that, you got
to say that for the episode.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
I'm sorry, brother, the little teaser alert, little teaser alert now,
but I'm just pointing out big that song was. And
you know I ended up with him in hole on it,
and that was the kind delay of him in whole
you know, getting on the same page. Now he's signed
the Rock Nation Like it's still bizarre, man, think about it,
like twenty years after the Blackout Game, the Rutger, I
don't want to speak about the Rutcker.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
Like right that Joe's evolution is just beyond yeah, blessing.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
You know, he's definitely like in his third act of
his career, you know. And we talked a little bit
about that and going to the White House of course
parked things and again he saign in the hell of
a week. So I think it's only the right time
to get into fat Joe.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
Let's get into a man and man. Yeah, first time
I met Mayor really and really chopped it.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Up with him.

Speaker 4 (06:17):
So, yeah, man, you know, super cool Man sneaking collection
is bar none.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Nobody can mess with him. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
He's trying to He's trying to battle beat out of
the watch collections.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
I see how they're doing it, but there has to
be beat. I believe that, nah man, But this is
that is a New York Man.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Great conversation.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Man. Again, our guys came through it for us at
the last minute, and the clutch Man Wrapper it Up podcast.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
Continues to shine.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yes, sir, let's get into a man's fat Joe and
Mayor on the rap rate our podcasts, Yeah, raperate our podcast.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
Elie Wilson, just beat all right?

Speaker 2 (06:49):
What's up?

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Good man?

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Yo? We got some family here. Man, sir.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
They came through for us. The clutch went it down.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
I'm gonna tell you something I never noticed before. You
switch up your voice for interviews. You're like master, I'm
like yo, that boys come from just talking to him
for an hour. The intro intro bounced.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Well, Hi, I'm fat Joe sneak in Sario.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
So in full transparency, we had emergency cancelation. Yes, beat out,
put the power signal out there.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
I put the I put the T S sign in
the sky. Never let you guys do. But yo, I
was a bum today. I'm actually wearing free Merchau. I
was looking at lives right there. I was going to
my stylist, you know, and then he said yeah, and
I came and I didn't read.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Oh man, ship, don't judge me on this drip not
so good.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Joe and May of course you're coming through dripped out
as always.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
Per usual with us.

Speaker 5 (07:49):
I'm just happy to be here.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
I see a sneaker that most people don't have.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
And the Kicks, the Kicks gentleman.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
New York release. Wow, strictly New York.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
I really made that for Miami, but they were like, y'all,
let's let's just kill New York with it, because you
know New York.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
You know, it's my home base, no matter what.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
You know.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
For the people that don't know that are listening, that
don't know what we're talking about, you're wearing the Air
Force one Terror Squad Collaborations.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yes, it comes out like in another week. But let
me tell you what's the weirdest thing is somebody I've seen, somebody,
whoever you are. Finally I got a good message on Twitter,
because you know, Twitter is the home of fat fog.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
Your mother's a lesion.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
At all. If you ever want to feel like shit,
just go to your Twitter one Like these sleeople are
really on it, right hom I hate And so I
went there and the guy said, you know, it's crazy
because I always say this, right, not not not even
comparing me to these guys.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
But you know, Martin Luther King to me was the
greatest American.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
They killed them, and then years later they gave him
his own avenue on every street and the holiday Malcolm
X great American.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
They killed him. Now he got schools.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
So this terrorist Squad sneaker was actually illegal. The guy
who designed that for me, originally they fired him for
this is designing Terry swand sneakers from me. He worked
that Nike, so they fired him how May twenty something
years ago, and now we're celebrating the terrorist squad air

(09:24):
Force one that he got fucking fired for general release.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
It's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Somebody said, Yo, you know the guy who designed that
got fired behind that sneaker. Wow, it's so crazy, it's
out now, you know, that's the world.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Wow, that's amazing, Joe.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Donald Trump, Okay, Donald Trump. Now I'm the king of morals,
principles said my whole life. I wish no one death.
I wish my enemy jail. Right. But I really hate
Donald Trump, and I hate Rudy Giuliani even more. Despise
him for what he was doing out here and New York.

(10:01):
But I'm scared. These guys just got hit with the
Rico Lord. And you're talking about a guy who hates
these guys. But I don't wish that on No, I
really don't wish that on them. Seventy seven years old,
he's going to jail. And the crazy day.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Is Donald Trump is going to fucking jail.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Rudy Giuliani, the creator of the Rico Lord, thirty years later, is.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Going to jail on.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
The fucking Rico. He don't put a thousand, ten thousand
people in jail on the Rico. And so this scares me.
Earth scares me. I just want to die with no
incidents nor I don't want to stick around long enough
for them to come back and hang me from my
terror squad laces or something. This world is fucking crazy. No,

(10:48):
this world is fucking crazy.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Well, you want somebody positives, beautiful news. You know you're
you're a man who's had a lot of legendary hip
hop moments. I feel like you just did a recent
back to back on this.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
Fat Joe you had a fifty.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Cent brought you out of Barclays, then Yankee Stadium.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
He took the shirt off again.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
They history, Yeah, you gotta paint the picture with us
those forty eight hours.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
It was like for you.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Oh no, it was you were there too, man, Right,
It's more like a one.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
I think it was more like a four day adrenaline
rush that I couldn't go to sleep. I ain't had
that in years, maybe since Big Pun went double platinum
and we was gonna do the Puerto Rican Parade. I
couldn't sleep. I was like Puerto Rican Parade and you
know you can't sleep. I'm thinking, Yo, we're gon, we're

(11:35):
gonna do this. Still not a player, everybody, you know,
it ain't been since that. Now it's hip hop's fiftieth birthday.
I don't know if you saw the clip I put
up with grand Master Flash. Who's grand Master Flash? But
let me let me tell you why I'm explaining this right,
because lately I tell such incredible, incredible stories. They starting

(11:56):
to call me Joey Capp Like, I'm not Joey Krack.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
No, no, I get it.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
You know, if you're a young dude, or you're not
from New York, or you don't really know the whole
real fact joe history, you're from Memphis, Tennessee, not just
Willing wherever. It sounds like he's full of shit. This
guy's biggie and too far, oh fucking way, right, So.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
I'm Joey Capp.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Now they all start a cap wow, right, and then
Home of Twitter they call me an appropriator, they call
me a white guy that I've jumped into. No, it's
fucking incredible. No, I'm from the birthplace of him. Absolutely.
And so the other day we at Yankee Stadium and
grandm Ha's the flash came in. You know, my brother

(12:43):
was this crep boy you don't know, carrying the records,
carrying the records while he DJ. You know, I knew
him since I was five years old, a little baby,
Mellie mel.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
All these guys are from my block. Shot Rock is
from my block.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
And it's crazy, is the weirdest thing is that I
looked at uh women in the hip hop yet last night.
And then you know I used to tell people biz
Monkey used to work in my recipes.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
Biz Monkey used to come to my store once a week.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
And work the cast registers and watching the bis Monkey documentary,
they showed a video of him and the castis.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
These stories are unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Flash was like, Yo, your babysitters, little Terry, your little
kiky they invented. Let me hear you say, O, he's
on my babysitters grim Master. Flash, there's footage of it, right,
And you know I'll say I got bone Thugs and
Biggie to do the bone and Biggie and everybody caught me.
Joey Capp and then crazy Boner come on and say no, no, no,

(13:40):
sure Joe did it.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
He made it happen, And so did you say?

Speaker 1 (13:45):
For a flash, he always cursed you out on text, Like,
what's what's the issue?

Speaker 2 (13:50):
If you think he's an asshole? You know this guy,
he's a professional asshole. But no, no, if he loves you,
he'll die for you man to give you anything. He's
one of my few friends that give me anything in
the world. He's with me every day. He's an asshole professionally, right,
but we love him, right, Yes, Grandmaster Flash got that

(14:16):
he come up in here. You better act like the
guard came in here. Don't don't be settled with him.
He know he started this, he know he invented this ship.
So when he comes you got stopped like your Grandmaster
Flash and to humble yourself, you know, put your head
down and just be like, Okay, don't know what the
fuck he's gonna say, But he told me was my
DJ's fake that eating some typical man and ship because

(14:40):
we did, grand We did a good Morning America. And
to think I bigged him up on good ones. It's
the fiftieth fan of Versary. They pick us to perform,
y'all big up grand Master the Flash, the legend of all.
He still cursed me out. The DJ's a fake DJ.
These young guys with these computers. Man, get somebody with
some turns. You're embarrassing us. You're from the Bronx. Thank you, Flash,

(15:04):
Happy birthday, Happy birthday, grand Master Flash. What do you
want me to do it? Grand Master Flash, you can't
argue with these people.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
You cannot argue with these people.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
But you know hip hop's fiftyeth Yes, Now let me
describe it to you. What happened right four days you want?
You said, I'm gonna tell you what really happened.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
I was supposed to come up with Buster.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Buster was calling me, but I was shooting some episode
like a panel, and I got there late and fifty
was already on and they was like, yo, fifth said
touch it. So it was like God's doing. We blew
that ship down, Legendary. It was pandemonium, And I want

(15:54):
to thank the g unit Loayu fans forgiving me respect
and love and that way, because you know, we warred
with each other and to come out in his fan
base and for them to go crazy was a beautiful thing.
We've been family and love forever. But it was an amazing,
amazing feeling I was that set them up. The next morning,

(16:16):
were on Good Morning America watching me and my sister
boss that were killing that shit Legendary be up and
that just set up Yankee Stadium.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
Now Yankee Stadium. I prepared for that.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
You know, I'm I'm a warlord like people don't understand
that street hip hop. I'm a warlord like versus wasn't
war Versus was me and my brother, and I couldn't
disres it.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
You know, if I ain't like Joau, I have brung
fifty cent hour on versus.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Like you know, I'm a warlord, like I know what
to do, Like you know, I come up. I'm a descendant,
a disciple of terrorists. One, I'm a disciple. You know,
I'm a warlord. You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
So we and Yankee Stadium fiftieth verse.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
I know it's all love, but you can't come in
the Bronx and Fat Joe's little fifteen minutes.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
You're not leaving saying all them Bronx boys was.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Here, but you drove there from the projects, from my apartment,
from my old apartment. I drove there from the projects.
Thank god they loved me so much. I might have
had three four million in jury on drop top going
through the Bronx stop by the KR in Vietnam, My
man Miami trap pistol P came out, dapt them pulled

(17:34):
up to the stadium.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
The camera comes on, Fat Joe's there live.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Meanwhile the intro's going crazy legs and my cousin, that's
actually my cousin and he's number two in the world.
He's going to the Olympics for b born gravity. But
actually my cousin Crazy, he's from Queen's Rich. Wow, here's
some his family, you know the DNA. His mother's from

(17:59):
queens Ridge Jakes. So they go in they do their thing.
You know, Crazy, how you said your set off Breakers
got fiftieth year of hip hop. Let me tell you
how I arrived. When I arrived, it was so much traffic, right,
it was like one hour. I'm looking at Yankee Stadium,
It's one hour, one block, one hour. I was like,

(18:21):
I had to get out and sneak in the stadium.
Now they have the normal exit, have four hundred and
fifty guys talking about they were fat joke from the Bronx.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
They're calling me. Now if I I had.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
To convince a man to let me in Yankee Stadium,
not there. I said, bro, they're gonna bryot. They're gonna
bum rush one million percent if I go through the
normal way. All these bronze dudes are going to riot.
They're gonna force their way in, like fat joking. So
they let me sneak in. But no, what was so beautiful, right,

(18:53):
was all the rappers like nas jay Z. Everybody was
texting each other chuck d. They was texting me happy
fifty year of happy birth It was like New Year's Eve,
like two thousands, like when we thought why two K.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
White two K didn't finish us?

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Motherfuckers was texting motherfucker's like why two K? Like your
happy birthday?

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Brother?

Speaker 2 (19:17):
I can't rest like it was some shit. I never
I have never felt this since I was a little
kid around hip hop. I pull up to the stadium.
You had young brothers and sisters with their own little
speaker freestyling, Yo, I'm nice this. I'm like Aaron Judge,
I'm this. Ten steps later you have bands playing shook

(19:39):
ones like the Roots, Boom boom. You look in the street,
the cops are breakdancing. No, no, they was there break
dance unifour motherfuckers was on Yankee Stadium property.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
Barbara Cwing on Yankee Stadium.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Yankee Stadium property. You might as well be in the
White House, right, that's Yankee Stadium property. Motherfuckers with Barbie
Curing in the stadium, people walking by you looking like
run DMC with the rope chain. The shit it was unreal.
The vibe was too unreal. And I had to do
what I had to do, and so I came from

(20:23):
the projects and what fat Joe used to do. Anybody
who's from my projects, they know I was the fat
Puerto Rican kid that was topless. I was always all summer,
I had chained on, no shirt on, never cared about
being fat. I was fat Joey. And so when I
went in that stadium, I first walked in with that.
I was Poppy Shampoo. So I walked in halfway topless.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
I had the what's my man or?

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Jeff Hammon made me a special custom made jacket for
me and tone Sunshine, so I was Poppy Shampoo. Originally.
Couple of chests heads out while I'm there, I said, man,
let me let my ass. Let me let me show
them all my ass. Joey Crack coming out the night,
So I take my jacket off. Last time I did
that was twenty years ago with Shatzi, and then we
was on stage again. I said, you know what a Shatia,

(21:11):
I'm taking it off. She was like, this guy's going
but I just wanted them to know you're you're in
my house, like I love everybody here, I love everything.
Joe was going to the best set.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
You're in my house. You're in my house.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
There's no way that's like me going to LA fiftieth
anniversary Snoop Dogg not ripping me down, you know what
I mean. So I so my whole show was My
whole show was structured around Warlord.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
You know, it wasn't beef, wasn't nothing.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
But it was like and they only gave me fifteen minutes,
so it had to be like a medley.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
It had to be like like.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
If you notice, we was like doing the the Jamaican
sound clashing, so all my songs was clashing into songs
like we was just clashing. We wasn't talking. We wasn't
because we had to get it off and and you
know I and so the whole thing is like it
was like a watch. It's like movable parts. So I
had to get cared. If I couldn't get in car rest,

(22:11):
couldn't get it, Peter Guns, couldn't get it in the shanty,
couldn't get in. The traffic was insane. I think it
was a little bit delayed because people couldn't get there.
It was too much traffic. I've never seen that. And
so everybody gets in us like I'm so stressed out
because I knew what had to be done. I stood
in the room, I wasn't even letting my brothers and

(22:33):
and and everybody was like, YO, tell them such and such.
At the door, We're like and I just kepttrating too
much because I knew I had to deliver. I knew
what I was capable of doing. I knew what I
was gonna do. And then once we bring out a
shanty looking beautiful ram, you know, once we go into that,
Peter guns does if it was the good see that coming.

(22:58):
So when that comes on, and then we go right
and if it wasn't for le Bron and then it
goes like I told my DJ, cut us off, like
violate us.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
If it wasn't for this South broth you we on
our ship.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Now now it broke my heart.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
Joe broke my heart. Man k r s that song.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Man.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
We're queens, guys, So this day your queens guys.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
He stops hanging out with empty sharing backstage, hung out.
I kissed rock Sane Chantey, not Craig g I said,
what's up to him? And I kissed Rocks and Chantey
before I walked on stage.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
That's my word. I hung out with Shannon all day.
That's just hip hop.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
No, it was no vibe.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
But then you did when you did DJ red Alerts.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
It's like, ah, it's funny.

Speaker 5 (23:55):
We talk about this all the time. You queens guys
will never.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Get bronze guys. He told me.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
He told me he said he was going for me
in versus and when I walked out to the bridges
over instrumentally he said fuck it. He said I better lose.
He was like, fuck you, you gotta lose. His nephew
got mad. I mean, nephew never goes against me for nothing. Really,
he said, man, fuck you the queens.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
I know. He said, you lost queens.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
He walked out to Jyru with the bridges over. He
was like, we got cueisers off. You got PSD from that.
Shan was nice.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
But when the bridges Over came out, this is the
instant knockout.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
It was just like instant damn one hit.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
He kiss. I remember the first time hearing it. It
was just over. I think, yeah, yeah, it was freezing outside.
I had the Walking on the World about it in
my book, but Jose, I'm outside. There's no way I
thought that up. So you gotta understand the Juice Crew
was like Nas jay Z Snooped all.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
They were like Nas jay Z Snooper. They were the
first man, not police, right.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
They were like anybody you ever thought with somebody drake
on the same fucking team.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
So there was no way you thought this little kid
from the Bronx care of Us One was gonna do
it to him.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
So and I had to be honest with you.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
I had never heard you making music in my life before.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
That was right. So when that shit came on, he
was regularly was like brand new Care of Us One.
I was outside with a walkman on. It was below
zero or some shit. I was in my projects and
that she said, boom boom boom and doom boom boom
boom boom, And I'm like, and he got the bridges over,
the bridges over, put him up by the bridge is over, Hey, bro,

(25:41):
you're coming down there? That yo. I started running around
my whole project yard out a shout out to the
whole Juice crew. You know, I asked Big Daddy came
one day and I never knew he said, yo. Him
and Kareus was cool. We're friends. They were brothers, like
care Reuss helped to move out his apartment. He said,

(26:05):
I couldn't go against Chris. He was literally my brother.
Behind the scenes, I was like, oh.

Speaker 5 (26:10):
It's funny when they did that versus They were in
the same dressing room in the back, just chilling. They
were sitting there laughing and I.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Try to ice grilled Cane and all that. He was like, yo, bro,
I know who you're here with.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
Calm down, Calm down. We brothers, like, we don't need
that energy.

Speaker 5 (26:29):
Joe was such a moment to watch them chilling. It
was so funny. I looked at Chris. I'm like, Christian,
I love you, just don't look in my direction when
symphony comes on, because that's to me, that's like I'm
Kane's my fact. Like I love Kinge and whenever I
hear the symphony, I go nuts on.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
We love Kinge too, How can you not right? We
love king We love empty shann Bro I hung out
with It.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Was nice man people. Oh Man.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
Shan was that Dawn by Law Dawn in my book.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
I described that battle. But I picked up Shan legend like,
I was like, yo, he's you know, living legend, hit maker.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
You know he set that bitch off.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
How proud are you of the book and the impact
it hadn't out?

Speaker 2 (27:09):
You know what's so important is I just wanted to
be transparent. You know, I feel like we got an obligation.
I'm happy that I was able to tell my story,
you know what I mean, as transparent as possible, and
you know, you know I can't lie to the people.
I got to tell them where I really came from,
what I really went through, so they could learn from

(27:29):
my mistakes or maybe inspire somebody who's going through a
tough time, maybe with depression, maybe with you know, so
it was so important I got it off. Shout out
shah Heim read Will helped me write that. Without him
it wouldn't be possible. But you know, we got a
series based on the book. But Kenya Barras and the
Terarero brothers, you know, the book, the book gonna teach

(27:52):
a lot of people. They got that shit in public libraries.
They teaching kids in school off the book, and you know,
is is deep.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Shout out to Jez. I just came back from Detroit
doing the Q and A.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
You know for him now rating he got a book
called Adversity for sale, which is so crazy. It's so
similar to my book. You know, he smoked WE one
time they rushed him to the hospital. I smoke WE
one time they rushed me.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
And I'm listening to them and I said, damn, well
we had the same life. That shit was crazy.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
You know. I smoked WE one time and ran out
the crib butt naked. The girl gasked me to smoke
weed and know, like te we did the hospital please
like you know, and similar things. But it's you know,
hip hop is fifty yes, what does that mean? People
are grown hip hop fans. The white boys that loved

(28:50):
hip hop music growing up run d them see everybody
else Now they're executives and ceo And then you wonder
why you said, damn hip hop is on ESPN. Hip
hop was there. When you finally meet the CEO, they're like, bro,
I'm fucking hip hop Like I grew up hip hop.
You'd be like, yo, what is Fat Joe doing on CNN?
By the way, the producer is hip hop? Like yo?

(29:11):
You know, so we're grown now. You know what I'm saying,
this is why Obama got elected because you know, hip
hop brought everybody together. You know what I'm saying it
wasn't like before that civil rights and everything was so separated,
but hip hop is just a magical tool that brings
everyone together.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
I was so happy and saving to see people wearing
run DMC t shirts waiting till one in the morning
when we wanted to see Running Sea and they stayed
for Run DMC. Nobody really left. It was like people
stayed in Like, first of all, I had so much stress.
Then I had to pull it off.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Nobody understands the fat Joe's fifty two fat motherfucker diving
up and down the stairs. Stayed trying to work out.
Then I gotta walk up to my family in the suite.
I was done, Like they should have They should have
gave me the wheelchair out of it.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
I was gone done, and but I had to stay
for n DMC.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
I have to stay for as I wanted to ask
you that story. You had total enough.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
And I always tell people that, like how Sucker MCS
and me and be I talk about it, even be
not being younger, How Sucker MC has changed the game
of hip hop, like instantly.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
One play meant the game was over.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
One play. We had that in our lives.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
We heard Eminem the first time we heard you know,
we had a moments nothing, but it changed the game.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Like the minute you hear this, you know, okay, we're
moving this way or you know we're out casting them,
Oh shit is moving this way? Like and hip hop,
they's the moments very much, so much more fewer now
than when we was growing up. But like we're saying,
hip hop was growing I'm in junior high school. Everybody
kept playing the Treacher Street coming, come On, come On,

(30:57):
come on, dax Shun, Like everybody had their routine of
that three girls that I wish I could pay now
because I didn't know who it was. They came on
now and they played sec seasons started they didn't, and
I watched everybody in the in the whole auditorium looking like,

(31:18):
oh it's over because the Bronx was running that ship
for like ten years. Ron and then Queen's just came
when DMC came with that sound, and it was like
it was almost like AI. The difference, the difference between that,
the difference between hip hop son first.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
And not that ship was like a Martian came. It
was like, oh no, it's over.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
What's crazy? Is right? At the concert at Yankee Stadium
Boom boom. It just turned me into a little kid
where I remember how all mythical, how it felt like

(32:02):
I was at a play Hamilton. It felt like, Yo,
this is run damn C. And they were yeah, but no.
When you heard it, you remember when you was a
kid and this ship was just too incredible. When you
was just like yo, and they're like, yeah, jam message
j Jam Jam Jam messy Jake run d Jam Message

(32:24):
and it was like, oh, ship, the gods are here,
and they looked incredible. See.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
I seen the Run DMC show where d m C.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Unfortunately, I know he got somewhere his voice he didn't
sound so good and Run was crazy out of shape right,
not not in y shady.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
He came with that motherfucking a game. They were well prepared.
Lauren Hill, I've been in shows with Lauren.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Was like, you know, look, no disrespect, no, no, no disrespect.
You know, she's my favorite female rapper of all time.
I said, you can google that a million times. She
gotta know she's the best that ever did it right.
But I've been to some shows hers Anita Baker. You
know when you go to the show, you want to

(33:18):
sing the song but you know, they switch it up
to where you can't even fucking sing with it, but
the la lah like You're like, yo, where's that at
the song? I'm trying to fucking sing along?

Speaker 3 (33:33):
Not this night. She fucking was like, bang bang, she
ain't come to play.

Speaker 5 (33:38):
You know what it was?

Speaker 3 (33:39):
It was fifty a year, he thought, I thought it was.

Speaker 5 (33:42):
She kept going, no, no, she kept going.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Shout out to everybody who did not participate in that
one event.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
You know, guys like The Game who had legendary albums
for real.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
It's so many artists that weren't there that I wish
they would have been there because their contributions to hip
hop was was too important, you know, And so I'm
just sorry that anybody who had another show, another obligation
wasn't invited, because so many people deserve to be on

(34:17):
that stage.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Right, looking back on it now, I mean with fifty
years in hip hop, but you also thirty years in
your career. Represent turned thirty earlier this year, and then
also we have Don Carter Gina turned twenty five five.
You know, I always wanted to know because Big Pun's
Capital Punishment came out that year as well. Did you
feel the pressure coming off of a big Punt's success

(34:38):
going into your own album.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
I can't say that to you because I never felt pressure.
So my thing, I legitly played number two for Pun
to grow right. So when I signed, when I met Punt,
I knew he was the best Latino. I knew that
Latinos needed him no matter what. I knew he was
better than everybody lyrically, because I'm a hip hop historian.

(35:02):
So I went from Cougi Rap and went to Nas
you know, went to j and when you know, this
guy was like did in the middle. I knew what
we had right, and so I said, let me focus
my energy on making him the biggest. He'll be the
anchor of Terror Squad. And then whatever falls from the
tree falls from the tree for me. And so you know,

(35:22):
you know, I had to follow up with Don Carteragina
things that people don't get me. First of all, I'm
one of the most underrated rappers ever. I know. They
say that the fact I'm famous because I do everything else.
I do podcasts, I do I talk shit, I do movies,
I'm I collect sneakers. I I'm famous because Fat Joe

(35:44):
ain't missing ship. You know, the other day, I went
to the rucker. You know, the sneaker is called the
blackout right, and for twenty years yesterday they threw up
the fucking numbers that lineup. You know, my wife didn't
even know shit about that basketball at that time. She
knows now and she's like, Jesus, Craig, you really you

(36:04):
had y'all Maine, y'all, Like boy, I didn't know you
might have took it like she was like.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
She finally told me, yo, you might have fucking took it,
like I was like, yo, ma, And that we have
like Bibby in the in the cut, we had Startlemine
on the cut, zat Landolph in the cut, Our Harrington
in the cut, you know, Ai Straberry, Carmelo like we
it was dumb, but.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
It didn't happen this twentieth Anniversarion.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
You know, if that fly ain't come out and I
did this with you, they would have been calling me
Joey Cap when all the clips come. The motherfuckers think
I'm Joey Ka. You know what I'm saying. It's just
I'm sorry. I was doing this type of thing. So
I go in the rucker and when I go in
there to see the young kids. It was the championship game,
and then we bringing the sneaker, the guy on the

(36:54):
MC go this is your park. This you own the park.
This is your championships. Nobody like fat like they but
I'm doing that. And in my head, I'm thinking, I said,
this is why niggas be hating on me. I said,
you can't even go to a game now without them
saying that Joey Cap won six championships that had this
and this and this, And I'm saying, this is why

(37:15):
we was doing too much out here.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
We was really outside outside. I can't complain.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Look, I want to live till one hundred and five,
but God forbid y'alls outside outside. God was good to me,
you know. I was able to like really really uh
and and look we're still gone. We don't miss a beat.
We're still out here working. We're still out here doing
what we gotta do. Actually, were bigger than ever.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Were you happy with the success of Don Carter Gina
come up with Capital Punishment?

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Though, yeah, I didn't care, Like my thing was h
see and Don Carter Gina, I was still like underground.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
So you have the record with Puff that was a
big one that was a street record with Puff.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
If Big Pun, if Biggie never comes out the fact
Joe never makes a hit because I was there when
Puff did all those hits with Biggie, and so when
I met Pun, we would have just kept the D
I T C with Pun Underground boom.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
Back, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
But I.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
All day and that's what Pun wanted to do. But
I was like, Oh no, you're gonna be the Spanish
Biggie bro. We're gonna get to the bag and we're
actually gonna see a female fan in the crowd, because
before that we had motherfuckers spitting raises and army fatigue
and they ship. And so when Pun did it, but
I still thought I was gonna be mop. I still

(38:38):
don't call the Gina. If you really listen to it,
it's a it's a digging in the Crates Underground album.
It wasn't until Jose that Pun passed that I was like,
oh no, I like this money.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
We gotta keep these hits and when come on, we
dugging and what's love?

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Because you feel like that you really went for it,
I know whatever, I really went for Don Carter Gina,
I was just spitting.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
Blow your back out this with that was shoddy talking.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Album.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
I think, yes, stay on that album and so don
Carter Gina to me was still.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
A borderline underground album is where I went for it,
you know, where I said, all right, I'm gonna be
a superman.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Yeah, so go back to the first album represent I
always wondered like coming off the street knowing you could.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
Wrap, but like learning how to really make songs like
what I couldn't even wrap. I always knew how to
pick beats, always knew how to pick beats. There's a
lot of artists I won't say their name that they
that the you know when we say, oh, they could
have been much better, I truth truthfully know it's simply
because they didn't know how to pick beats. So they're
so dope to the beats. We like this, and so

(39:49):
I always tell everybody what well we're representing. I was
just wrapping my block. Two things was going on.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
I was gonna let you know, I really I was
on that album, and I never seen the Spanish dude
do that.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
So I knew Spanish kids all over America we're gonna
be like, holy shit, we finally got one as your
thorough with a half moon. Fifty dudes behind them guns
in the video gold Medallion's rolex. They ain't seeing motherfucker
like me a trapper on the screen her motherfucker. You
gotta float y'all. He wasn't playing.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Well. It just rapped.

Speaker 5 (40:30):
You know.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
People were mad at me a long time at the
Rucker because I said.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
Never liked balls. So the hell it was just a bar.
It was like even Roy Jones was forced to lean back.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
I love Roy Jones.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
It was just a bar. It was just rap.

Speaker 5 (40:43):
You know.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
I just rapped, So it was a bar. It was
a low hanging fruit. I think since then, I've been
more careful about the bars. Roy Jones almost came and
fucked me up, you know what I'm saying. So I
had to calm down. You know what I'm saying. I
ain't want that year though, crrackt. You know, you know

(41:05):
we showed you Yankee Stadium. You know we got we
got it. You know what I'm saying. We got hits,
we got underground. You know, I forget all my shit.
Like my favorite song I ever did was called a
Definition of a Dawn, you know, and then also bring
it on from the terror squad out like I got
like street classic Lan do a s obs right now

(41:26):
and fuck him up. You know what I'm saying. But
you know, so very important, like so fat joke. So
we all know the historical story of when LL COOLJ
got so big. Fiftieth anniversary. First time we saw l
LL he said box my radio like he was the
hardest pause, the hardest motherfucker we ever seen. Right then

(41:51):
he gets so big it's almost like Calit's album suffering
for success. Then you know, the infamous story came out
the one twenty fifth and they boot him now because
he's whack, just because he was so successful, he was
winning so much. So I've been in places with that
Joe showed up. So I'm technically you know, I'm from

(42:13):
the bottom, bottom bottom, bottom bottom. I went back to
my projects last week. I can't. I licked my floor
in my house when I went. I cannot believe I
grew up here. God bless him. I'm telling you the truth.
That's square foot this like this, I could touch that.
I couldn't believe now that I'm it's incredible, But God

(42:35):
bless everybody in false projects. But he's try to get
about right, and so I'm from the bottom bottom bottom,
bottom right, and so success it brings a little bit
of hey, you know, some people wish they could have
did that, or they hallucinate they should have have it,
they did and this and that. So I've been in

(42:56):
shows where I go and it's the whole underground audience
and they're looking at me like they want to do
that LLL with me, like they want to boot and
I come on there with.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
Who know who the fuck do you think you're talking to?
Then I go into MOTHERFUCKINGO Joe.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Then I go into John Blaze, I go on to
my lifestyle, go by that, and they're like, you can
in front on me, bro can't. I got a whole
fucking I got a hold, and they feel stupid. Somebody
really hates me. This underground, this mad that I'm commercially successful.
There in they're like, and then the endemy comes on.

(43:35):
Enough's enough fed around shot and they're like and they
man's just banging on them like, Yo, it's crack, grad,
it's crack Peop.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
Don't realize that like a lot of the that jay
Z was underground, NAS was underground, Fat Joe was underground,
Like we saw he was underground.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
He was underground, you know, like you were.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Underground them seeds and you guys became superstars.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
That was for the natural transition.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
You know, we ain't just go. It's almost like we
forced Like you said, Don Cartageing, I forced myself to
still be underground. After the Big Punch success, I could
have easily started making Botequa Moana, and I was just like, nah,
I'm still going.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
Mop you know what I'm saying. We're still gonna kill
your moms.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
You know what we're gonna do.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
You know, fuck that, how about some hardcourt you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
But we still are, you know.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
And then once Pun died, you know, I knew the
difference between the money. You know, flow Joe.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
I was getting five hundred dollars a show I was
doing every Saturday. That was doing three shows New York, Connecticut,
the Bronx, then DC Vegia the same. You know, that
was how I was making the dollar. You know what
I'm saying, We wasn't making no real money. And so
you know, once Pun died it and we started seeing
fifty thousand this show wold shit like that, I was like, oh,

(44:53):
I gotta make it hit. Right.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
But even in addition to having pun in your corn,
you always had mail on your side. You guys grew
up together, right high.

Speaker 5 (45:01):
School, went to high school. I met Joe in ninth grade.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Ninth grade we was.

Speaker 5 (45:05):
In music class together and homeroom.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
We had an interesting home room.

Speaker 5 (45:11):
Yeah, we definitely we had a wild home mom.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
Well, what's so interesting about it was just.

Speaker 5 (45:15):
Probably eighty every gangster and lunatic in the world just
happened to be in the same future drug.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Lord home everybody, everybody holding court in jail as we
speak as people just coming home now with ninth grade.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
Literally people coming home now. Mayor hip hop times Run
Deep two used to own the club out here in
New York.

Speaker 5 (45:34):
City, right, I was. I had a piece of Club
Essos in nineteen ninety six. Ye club Essos. Yeah, I
had Maria Davis man one days when when she did
the stop the membory, they was Who's smoking weed? And
hear the biggie line? I mean now the jay Z
thing from fourth was the fourth fourth What song is that?
Twenty two two? Yeah, twenty two twos and Maria Davis thing.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
I had it with twenty twenty two twos do add
up to four four fourth.

Speaker 5 (45:59):
I got that, you know, we had we had, we
had Maria Davis Man Wednesdays, I seen one twelve performer
s OS first. I was probably one of the last
ones that have Kim and Foxy Brown on stage together,
you know, with Queen Latifa. You know what I'm saying,
Like you know, it was amazing. It was amazing, amazing, amazing,
amazing place I've seen it all. Like every every artist
broke through is.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
Like the most interesting man in the hire shop. He
owned like there's nothing he can't do. Just today he
did an interview for some sneakers and I'd be forgetting
my brother's ship.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
He was busting out joints to that.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
I said, Damn, this motherfucker got it.

Speaker 5 (46:34):
I did an interview today with NBC for sneakers, call
it into the fifty years of hip Hop. So I
brought out like Wu Tang Dunks and Drakes Drake's Eleven's.
I brought out the Terror Squad air Force, you know,
jay Z justin Timberlake, legends of summer, like shoes that
haven't been seen in one hundred years and shoes obtainable.
Brought him out the day and made a little movie
for NBC today.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
It was dope.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
So did you did you book the talent that comes
to your club?

Speaker 5 (46:56):
At No, No, it was all promot. It was all promoted.
I even had Salabatello from the Fever used to do
my Saturday nights like I had. I had a hip
hop Wednesday, I had a house music Sunday Saturday I had.
I had everything left over from the tunnel on Sundays,
like whatever was left over there couldn't get into the
tunnel with ways and essoles on a Sunday. I mean
it was. It was a great, great run, right.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
I beat up every I beat up every promoter, every bouncer, bouncer, bouncers.
We was giving them though business. I got a funny
story when I met my wife, right when we met
my wife, I met in Miami, right and she came back.
She's really from Queens. So we went out the first

(47:39):
time ever. Well for I had no money. You know,
I was just struggling about to come out right a
little bit before a flow joke. And it's so, you know,
friends already looked at her, like this beautiful girl, what
she's doing with this fat motherfucker? She ain't got no
money either.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
He's popped, like right, so they had a problem with me.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
Right, Well, you know they only wrapped to all the
big drug dealers in Queens. You know, they had little
diamonds and shit. So the one day they meet me,
we go to a club in Manhattan, right, so they like,
we going to club. So I'm with all girlfriends, is
just be. We pull up to the club and they tell,
they tell me, and they tell they said, oh, he can't.

Speaker 3 (48:21):
Come in here.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Right with the first date I ever had. Well friends,
and they was like, these guys tore down the whole
fucking club. Like these guys broke every musical equipment this
in the here, like just last week, you're not coming
in here.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
She kept the real with me and left with me.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Her friends was so pissed at but uh, yeah, you
know we you know, I have a zero tolerance, a zero.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
I will not let a human being disrespect me without.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
Handling it. That's just been my own entire life. So
to be honest with you, somebody in human form that
has disrespected me, they caught it every single time, and
they know it. And so somebody's hallucinating line telling you stories.
They're liars. Because we give it. Yeah, we gave it
to everybody in the planet Earth. You know what I'm saying.

(49:12):
So it's like, you know, we have I have zero
zero zero is like a dictative ship, like a tyrant,
Like I'm going to handle it right on. You're not
getting away with it, right you know?

Speaker 3 (49:24):
So, man, how did you even get the name?

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Man?

Speaker 3 (49:26):
Is it did Joe to get that to you?

Speaker 6 (49:28):
No?

Speaker 2 (49:28):
No, that was just from that was just from he's
the mayor, the mayor.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
I was over.

Speaker 5 (49:32):
So I grew up in Michaelangelo Houses. My grandmother lived
in Patterson Projects, my aunt lived in Melrose. All these
places hated each other. Then I'll go to Hallam and
hang out on und forty of on hun thirty nine.
Shoot my man Reggie White, and everybody was like, yo,
we can't stand each other with mayors on this block,
mayor's on that block, man's with this one, man's with
that one, still like that and right, And my man
Reggie White was like from hallm was like, yo, you're

(49:53):
like the mayor. And that was like at like sixteen
years old, and that stuck with me, all right. It
just my grandmother called me I got that. She called
the mayor in Spanish, come here, like you know before
she passed it just stuck with everybody, Who are you?

Speaker 3 (50:06):
Who's the mayor or the president when it comes to
these sneakers, because again, you know.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
You for that. We got it.

Speaker 5 (50:11):
I'm saying it now. Joey got it. I said that.
Don't say that.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
He's on the Mount Rushmore. Clark Can't is definitely on
the Mount Rushmore. I'm squeezing in there in the side
on the right corner.

Speaker 5 (50:25):
This guy, he's he's Joey cap right now, who's the
guy there?

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Is you?

Speaker 3 (50:32):
Clark Can't. I'm in the corner. Who's this guy?

Speaker 2 (50:35):
And we know who it is?

Speaker 5 (50:36):
I was give it to Greg Street, Greg Street, I
was give it to you. It's the most diverse collection
I've ever seen in my life.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
Perfect pretty good. No, that's a real good, pretty good.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
I'm with that.

Speaker 5 (50:46):
You know, you know how you open up your pantry
and this he got a big house and Mary Otta Georgia,
and you open up your pantry, you expect to see
a lot of cupcakes and candies and sugar. Greg Street
got sneakers and sneakers. I'm not lying. I swear you
got a wife, right yeah, you got Yeah, he's he's
with you. He just it just doesn't exist. The guy
Greg is weird. Greg has a pull in his backyard
for thirty years. It's never no water in it, Like
in the summertime he's no water. He doesn't know, he

(51:08):
doesn't turn the pull. He's crazy. You go into his pantry.
I went into it. We was gonna do an interview
one time, we was gonna do a show together. Never
panned out. I went to greg Streets house and he
has a bedroom with every single promo T shirt ever made.
I'm talking represent I'm talking he's got millions in it.
I'm talking U GK riding dirty t shirts. I'm talking

(51:31):
exhibit first album that I gave out at club s
os he had those T shirts. Now, Greg's I've never seen.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Documentary on Biz Marquee the other night, how was it?
And it's really great. He is really sad, you know Biz.
You know, I really love Biz Marky.

Speaker 3 (51:47):
It was. It hurt me a lot, you know, to
see what he went through his final year. You know
how much I never knew that he grew up with Kim.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
I never knew, uh, you know, they was in there
that I bugged me out, and I was like, yo,
because Rock Kim's talking like the mayor, like you know.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
He's all in the documentary.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
Like you know, I remember when this first bang on
the table, when Junior high and I started freestyling. I'm like, Yo,
these guys go up crazy. I never knew that Ferris
would be that he came. So I cornered bizmarcky in
real life, it's not in the documentary. And I asked
him why, you know, I asked him why he embraced me,

(52:27):
because before I ever was on Ever had a deal,
he used to pull up in my projects, hang out
with me and this he said, I knew it. I said,
what you mean? He said, Joe, I knew you was
going to be the next blow. I knew you was
going to be a star. He's he said, that's why
I used to pull up on you. I knew it,
Like I would have bet anything that you was gonna,

(52:49):
you know, be a star. And I was like, Wow,
he knew that. I ain't know it.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
Wow, you know recipes bizmarcking man.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Wow, And so you know, you know they you know,
it's beautiful to see that hip hop was so celebrated
for the fiftieth birthday. We got to keep it going.
Fifty first birthday. A lot of people ate that haven't
been eating in the loan had these opportunities this year
that they had, Thank god, you know what I mean.
And so it's so important that we continue to make

(53:18):
sure they get checked. It's so important that they keep
eating and getting their roses because they created an art
form that has created millions of jobs and trillions of dollars.
Think about that. It's a fucking natural resource. You know,
it's it's a natural resource. And bro, they created some ship.

(53:40):
Bro that that's like, you know, imagine the world without
hip hop. You know, we wouldn't have a job, right right,
dad Broke.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
You wouldn't be at the White House. Now I'm going
next week, get back to the white hose.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
I'm my luck.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
Call on me up Man's fifty if hip hop? But
she didn't call me.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
A right hand woman called me and said, Joe, we're
having an event for hip hop fifty would you like
to come? And very rare, does my wife and my
daughter ever like to hang out with me? And they
said we're going, So they're in.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
Wasn't like going there the first time, as you know
a guy from the Bronx.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Do you know Joey Krack? Y'all y'all still don't know
Joey cra y'all think you'll read the book Joey Krack,
the type of ship he had to do.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
You ever seen this movie? What's that movie they did
in India?

Speaker 2 (54:40):
The movie they didn't no man tractable?

Speaker 5 (54:45):
What extraction extraction?

Speaker 2 (54:48):
You ever seen extraction extraction one and extraction one? Extraction one? Right,
it's about to me. The whole movie is about. Yeah,
he's a he's going to get a a kid that
was kidding at but you know who Joe Krack was
in that movie, the Lily Wendyan kid that wanted to
be down with the fucking with the drug lord so

(55:10):
bad he wanted them to cut his finger.

Speaker 3 (55:13):
He kept coming at this killer like he just I
gotta impress him. I gotta let him know hone. You
know I'm not gonna be broke my whole life?

Speaker 1 (55:22):
That was me.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
You know, Joe krat was like, bro I don't know
what the fuck I wouldn't have done to get on now.
You know, when I'm fourteen years old, every drug kingpin
in Bronx and Harlem. They knew who Joey krat was
is fourteen. Imagine now I wouldn't know who's fourteen. They
knew this nigga was coming.

Speaker 3 (55:43):
Boy George, they knew it.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
They knew he was coming. They was like, Yo, he
is coming. This kid is coming, like he's not gonna
stop to you know. Thank God for hip hop, you know.
And then then with all that, I'm in the White
House to be kidding, but I'm representing patients. So power
to the patients. We passed the lord here in New

(56:06):
York City for the first time ever in New York
City history, where the hospital's gotta be transparent and tell
you what you gotta pay. So it's all a gim me.
You two know what you're getting paid per episode? Right,
I know what I'm paying for that big Mac downstairs.
We all know what the hell we pay. Right, you

(56:26):
go to the hospital, they don't tell you what you're paying.
So they go it's not even black or white. It's
like it's a mr.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
Today.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
We got ten schedule one is paying one patient. He
may be white. He's paying one thousand dollars. Come the
next patients paying three thousand. The next patient is paying
five hundred, The next patient is paying ten thousand. They
charge you whatever the fuck they want. And so people
are over one hundred million Americans of bankrupt you to

(57:00):
health health that house can't pay them bills. And when
you broke, what happened you damn sure ain't keeping keeping
the family. You ain't keeping the woman when they break you,
you can't afford your family. You ever been in a
relationship where you ain't had the money? Currently been in

(57:21):
a relationship, yo, I used to have a girl back
in my projestys like, you better go stick up that
fucking supermarket. You better go get that fucking money, tough love.
I need to rebop thirty four ninety nine. I need
them fifty four levens. They came out of purple boy.
You better get that fucking shotgun. And I was so

(57:43):
broke I used to have to borrow the shotgun from
my man black An rest the peace. I had to
borrow a landway on the fucking gun.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
Yo, give me the gun, let me hold it.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
I'll give it back.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
I have to pay they So you change laws here, correct?

Speaker 2 (57:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (57:59):
We did, and we going to continue last year.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
You know our Muslim African brothers and sisters in the Bronx.
They had the fire that killed the seventeen people. We
raised over two million. Yep. You know that's what we're
here for. You know what I'm saying. These people in
the Bronx, man, they let me live. They could have
killed me easily, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
They let me live.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
So I have a silent contract with them that whenever
something goes wrong, Joe Krat's gonna be there.

Speaker 5 (58:27):
You know.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
And so that's that's how we live our life, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
And we're proud of it. Absolutely. When we get you
back in that studio and what's what's this voodoo thing
you are?

Speaker 3 (58:35):
Voodoo record that shave, that shave, you know a little.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
Voice and you know, you know, God there I let
my voice to people sometimes, you know, you know, I
gotta work, you know, hell, I gotta work. It's a
fly song, voodoo You into that type of you know,
it's nice, you know what I'm saying. She's a good person.
Uh And so right now, in order for me to

(59:00):
make music with anybody is pretty much I gotta love you,
you know what I mean, Like five mics, I got
a song with five mics.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
I did a song with a die Pesto thrilling Ems.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
Oh no, I got sanctioned, chanking, I got sanction sanctioned
because I don't really work like that no more with music,
you know what I'm saying. So you know, I knew
Nems wanted me to get on his album. You know,
I went on BT and called him the new fat Joke,
So he want me on his album. But then I
was playing, and then I start getting these texas. You know,

(59:34):
he signed a Roseenberg the Eminem You know, I owe
him too many favorites. When that text comes come through,
I'm like say no more, no.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
More, you know, you know, fiftieth anniversary.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
Oh, Melly Mail says some ship about Eminem, right, and
I'm gonna tell you something here, which I do hope
nobody takes the wrong way. But I see him in
the nick game like a day later, and Melly Mill's
my o G like he's the guy who I look
up to our worship, and I.

Speaker 6 (01:00:12):
Said, down your white go after the white boy man.
I said, fiftieth fan aniversary, this is the time to
run it up when you're trying to block your blessings,
like you know, because because I learned the hallway.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
You know, I never complained and I never even said
it publicly. Well, you know, I have beef for fifty
cent and jay Z, the two most two most fucking
powerful dudes in the world, And so Reebok was gonna
give me a sneaker there, and they, oh, you have
to beef with jay Z and fifty Jordan's too, right,

(01:00:47):
Jordan too. We can't give you the deal all that.
You know, you know how much money I was ship
was like an embargo. I'm not saying they purposely was
doing it God like you know, mayor not doing what
it deal with you if you got to be for
fat Joe. So that's the whole point. I try to
teach him for my mistake. I said, Yo, bro, you

(01:01:08):
don't want to dish him, I know, but what I'm
saying is, don't block it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
Bless you smart.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
You literally said something to me, Yeah, because you know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
Pull hit me up and say, Yo, we really need
you on that Namu, I said, he signed, He said, yeah,
I said, no problem, I'll be in the studio tonight.
How do you want it hardcore?

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
Dan?

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
What do you want to party? Tell him? I came
through you know, I owe Eminem so many favors, like
I have used my relationship with this guy to oblivion.
You hear me, No, I swear to God. One of
that Lean Back remix he was on the Lord above

(01:01:49):
the man. He gave me the sneakers before everybody in
the world. That man do anything. You know, he's a beauty.
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
He trying to talk me out of retirement. I know
you're gonna say, Joey capped.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
It was in my mother's house, shirt off, topless, my phone,
rings and number I one note.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
Thank god I picked it up, Zeminem.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
He starts trying to convince me for a whole hour,
don't leave us. He almost was depressed that I was
leaving our era.

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
Leave us.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
You still got he said. I purposely start listening to
all your music.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
To see if maybe you should retire.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
No way, got it? Stay in there.

Speaker 3 (01:02:32):
Yeah, God, you know he's a god.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
Eminem's a god. I don't give a fuck who what
you think?

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
He's a god? You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
Somebody shifted the whole algorithms when he came next. I
remember me and Big Pun. Big Pun was the first
LATO to sell two million records. Solo we nominated for
a Grammy, and the night before we go to the Grammys,
we are waiting online in l A and Tower Records

(01:03:02):
for the Fucking Eminem album Online Online nominated for the
nominated for Grammy. Me and Big pun online to get
that motherfucking Eminem album.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
Wow, you tell me he ain't a rap God, you
understand what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
So it's like, you know, you know, I respect everybody
who put their contributions to this game. Milk is chilling.
You can't go milk chilling is chilling? What more can
I say? All Right, let's do Let's play this game.
Because say a song that you will always forgether, you
will always remember a song lyrics to something that you

(01:03:40):
will always.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
Busters used this last game, you wasn't.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
There the same thing. That wasn't.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
A line that kind of like you remember where you were,
Like if it came on right now, you would have
to say, oh, you said the other one for me to.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
He said, I'm like skin, I live in Queens, not
because you're here, but lyricly, it's funny that you're here though,
because my daughter, she's ten years old, she loves tongue twisters.
So I let her play twins, you know, and she
loves that part, and she's she gets she's getting the

(01:04:21):
hang of it, but she loves that part.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
So that shout out.

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
Busy Signal Bigsie Signal is a Jamaican artist, king of
tongue twisters, fucking phenomenon. When you see him rap, you
Like one day I heard him freestyle, I was like
dumbed doubt. Shout out the common shout out. They had
a guy out there named Juice. They used to free
style for Chicago. Chicago has some mean artists. Shout out

(01:04:48):
the whole movement over there in l a far side.
I got five on almost beat him up. One of
the guys.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
Your mouth, one of them, the light skinned one.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
He kept staring at my wife man, and I had
to tell him, like, yo, bro, you want to get
beat up or something? What's going on here? Man? Fuck
wrong with you? Man? You had to do with other
fucking this other West Coast. It's a tough time for
you with the West Coast. You know, I'm the only
trap but that physically got it on with the West Coast,
the only East Coast rapper who we don't talk about

(01:05:23):
it because you know it ain't cool, but I got
it on. That's what we had.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
Fact when we had a Snoop Dogg on a couple
of years ago, when they had a summer with Farrakahns,
I was this. He said that it was quiet and
the fact Joe raised up and said, we fucking loved you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
How can you do this?

Speaker 3 (01:05:40):
Done the fact and he was like, everyone was like,
oh my gosh, because we hip hop.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
I don't give a fuck where are you from.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
I fuck with the goodie mob, I fuck with out casts,
fuck with Luke, I fuck. Hip hop is a fucking religion.
It's a culture, and so people play divide and conquer,
people play we don't really love each other. We fucking
love each other. I was crying that Prodigy's funeral, like,
I was all embarrassed that I was crying in front

(01:06:08):
of the whole hip hop game. You know, when I
walked in proudly these funeral, they had a band plane
shook ones and so if hip hop is a pyramid, right,
we lost the fucking brick with him. And I realized
that at the funeral, I was like and that Dune,
I said, wow, we ain't lose nothing like this in

(01:06:31):
a while and shout out to Nate Dogg, shout out
the Coolio, shout out to Heavy D.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
There's no Fat Joe. There's no Heavy Davy D credit
Heavy D.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
There's no Fat Joe. If there's no Heavy D. To
this day, when I think I'm flying, I see pictures
of Heavy D thirty years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
In the water.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
Same shit. No man had that. The overweight lovers in
the house, the house, Oh you know what I mean,
Fat people feel like dancing? What was flying? Yet I
never I never forget the time I seen him in
the picture with me a long hold in her hand.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
Fat dudes came up. Fat boys.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
Every single block party, every jam that I ever want
you in the Bronx started with fat fat fat boy
boy boy boys. That's how they started. It was always
the first record, and you heard the ricochet off the walls.

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
Fat fat, fat boy boy boy boys.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
Now I don't care what you was doing, playing baseball,
tag football, whatever, you just go over there. And so, uh,
you know, just everybody who paved the way. But really
that movement over there too, because I really started with
she keeps on and started with us. The man. I
wish I was a little bit tall, wish I was

(01:07:54):
a ball, wish I was any girl. Yo, I was
with them Classic ninety two, ninety three. You know, we
was all trying to come up absolutely you know, so
hip hop fifty. If anybody who didn't get they just do,
just know we love you and we understand that we

(01:08:14):
respect your contributions to the game, and we just gonna
keep hip hop alive. You know, it makes me think
of because I think so long he's been on the podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
Yeah, last time he was on the podcast, were remmy
right before All the Way Up really came out. Remember
beat I had saw you do it a snippet of
it a show, and beat I was like, you fat,
you'll got this record that's not that you could be
smashed a smash and you took it off if you
took it, juke it offline.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
He took it off YouTube.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
And then you put the record out and we said,
I think the day Flex was gonna play it, that's
when you were sitting with it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
The only fear took off that we hadn't had a
hit in a wild And it's true they stalled. All
the Way Up should have automatically being number one, But
some DJs you know, this ship is a real uh.

Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
Monkey see monkey do game.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
Political not just political.

Speaker 3 (01:09:02):
It's like, are you gonna go in in the on
this trip?

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
It sounds like a hit, but we're playing frickety Dickey Dickey,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
And they're a little old.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
Well fact, Joe is REMI was only like thirty four whatever,
thirty th Still it was.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
It was a smash. It was no different than a
lean Back.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
But you had some people that were waiting for the
cold sign to let it go, go go, you know,
lean Back came out. They told me a story. Jeezy
just told me a story, he said, Yo, I was,
I knew the story, but he said. I was in
can Coon when lean Back came out.

Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
The whole B M F.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
And DJ S and S played lean Back for four
hours straight. No other song, he said, no other song,
he said, it was just lean Back, lean Back, lean Back.

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
He said.

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
People kept paying them to play it. It was that day. Now.

Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
The mutual experience to that was I was in Miami
and they wouldn't stop playing it back to back to
back to back. It was a Memorial weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
They just kept playing and we used to drop all
our records Memorial Weekend because all the DJs is out,
they can pay off the barbecues whatever. So so all
the way Up should have been the same thing. Well, Frip,
it was that, you know what I'm saying, But because
I was a little older, I ain't have a hit
in like five years. It was like, let me see

(01:10:27):
what you do.

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
Let me see what you do, Let me see what
you do. And then eventually you know, to charge man,
We're still all the way.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
Up, man, but after real you fearly have two anthems
that are part of the history that it's undeniable.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
Drake facetimed me three times trying to get on all
the Way Up three times middle of the night. Send
me the instrumental, Send me the instrumental, Send me the instrumental.

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
I wish I would have got Drake on it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
But the fact of all the history of me and
jay Z, I was like, you gotta be just me
and jay Z, I said, because anybody who really knows
you know, I've been doing this for hip hop and
my whole life. I gave my life to hip hop
for real, for me. So I was like, anybody who

(01:11:19):
truly understands this is the moment. It ain't just gonna
be a posse cut and it ain't gonna be you know.
And this is the last time Drake ever asked me
to do it all. But nah, man, no gotta forgive me.
I'm like, damn man, please do me a friendsbee. But yeah,

(01:11:43):
it's true. All the way up was that big that
we had the best, the biggest, you know, fifty cent
was everybody you could fucking name who's a monster was
hitting us up, like yo, send the pro tools. We
were just like like, I was like, yo, this history,
you know what I mean? Because I personally, my whole life,

(01:12:03):
never thought I would make a song with jay Z,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
So the fact we had that, it was right time.
I said, fuck that, let's get the game something they
never thought they would get.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
What was y'all laughing at at the Beyonce show Man
some beautiful photos right there?

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
You know, Fat Joe talk so much shit.

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
I don't know where I was at with that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
But you also joke about how much you how much
you could have done back then.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
And I lost maybe one hundred million, not fucking with
jay Z because you know, you know, just being stubborn.

Speaker 3 (01:12:35):
How about I'll tell you what we was laughing about.
The man was telling me.

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
That he wished we would have been brothers since day
one and we would have been cool with each other
since day one.

Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
And then he told me about a mutual friend.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
They used to always try to tell him, Yo, Joe's
the coolest guy in the world, this and that, and
I'm like, Yo, meanwhile, I'm thinking the friend he's telling
it's an asshole. And then we started laughing about it.
I said, the whole time, I thought it was a
fuck man, you know, And then we started laughing, like, meanwhile,
he was a good dude, telling them, Yo, Joe's a
good dude man like you would.

Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
Love that Joe. They used to tell me the same
thing about fifty cent. They used to tell me.

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
The same thing, very very in between us and there,
we had a couple of people in there that was like, YO,
telling me to say, you will love them.

Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
I'm like, nah, I love it. They tell fifty you
will love them, Joe, crap, you will love them?

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
Na. Fuck.

Speaker 3 (01:13:31):
You know, we stubborn, you know, New York's real stubborn man.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
But life's been good with Rock Nation on. Life is
amazing for me. Shut out desiret Perez. You know, I
don't know where I would be without her, you know
what I'm saying. So, uh, you know family, I love them,
you know what I'm saying. And I'm honored to be
uh family with them. You know what I'm saying to me.
It ain't even about man, I'll never get off rock Nation. Wow.

(01:13:56):
Like it's like, you know, we family. You know what
I'm saying. That's what it is. And so it's just honor.
You know what I mean to be around. Smart people,
good people, people not trying to fuck you. People want
to see you do great, people want to see you grow.
You know, you know how this business is. You know,
I just met him a.

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
Little bit too late. You know what I'm saying, not
saying I'm not up. I'm up all the way. I'm
all the way.

Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
I'm up. Don't get it fucked up. I'm up, boy
in every state. Trust me, I'm good at every state.

Speaker 3 (01:14:30):
Ship.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
Yeah, we ain't playing we blessed man. God is great, man.
I want to give all the glory to God. God
is great. I want to get a glory for beat
out for bringing you here.

Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
Man, last minute, man, everybody else you can't get fat
Joe on this short notice like this just be dot care.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
He's a trouble maker on Instagram, keep him off fit. No, no,
it's a terrible man. What No, No, he's evil, borderline
evil on Instagram. But I go on my lives, I'm
talking about somebody. He be like, he's I'm saying it
for you.

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
I'm like, you.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
Know, I'm easily I'm easily manipulated. I catch myself like
starting the disc. I'm like, no, no, no, do stay au.

Speaker 3 (01:15:17):
Be that. I'm not fucking with you right now.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
No trash got him out of here, just saying this.

Speaker 3 (01:15:24):
The girl say read or something.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
I was like, we're not gonna say, we're not gonna
say any names, but you know, I'm just gonna say
for you, crack, that's.

Speaker 3 (01:15:31):
All sexy wrap my girl ski you.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
You go.

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
We got to encourage it. We gotta encourage the youth.
That's what it is. She said, my pussy pain, my
movie hold around. You know, my daughter, I've said what.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
Swearing God I said, I said what I don't know said,
I don't play that ship like you could get away
with it. I've never told my my daughter no, I've
never not given h like she's first Prince of bel Air,
like she came with that ship minny ping, my dear.

Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
I said, whoa, well, we are not having that shite.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
No, no, oh, that's hip hop. No, not for you,
not for you. And I made it a conscious effort
growing up to not censor my kids. I let him
hear the curses since they was six years old, eight
years old. My son's my daughter, like I couldn't be

(01:16:35):
a hypocrite, you know, he had to be able to
listen to whether they could, she could listen to Sexy Red.

Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
Just don't tell your father my this is this and
my booty host.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
No, no, no that we're not doing that. No, we're
not going theory for nothing. You know what I'm saying.
I will fucking wrap you and aluminum for you right now.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
What would you like to what would you like to
see in the future hip hop?

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
Yo? Man? I want.

Speaker 3 (01:17:02):
I want less violence.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
I want everybody to think equity, think ownership, make more
money than us, make us happy, make us proud, make
moves new moves.

Speaker 3 (01:17:21):
Unity in hip hop.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
It's very important to us because when I look at
a young brother or young sister that's successful, really successful
with hip hop. I see one hundred jobs. I see
one hundred families eating Thanksgiving because of the kid, and
so that's what I want for them. More bosses, you know,
more bosses, more takeover Hollywood. There's nothing you can't do.

(01:17:48):
You know, anything's possible. And that's what hip hop has
taught me. That hip hop is possible. You know, anything
is possible, any dream if you fight for it, you know,
and the stars aligned, you could do whatever you want.

Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
How about you man?

Speaker 5 (01:18:04):
Definitely less violence. I want artists that are considered older
to keep making music because older fans, older fans grow.
If you didn't see the demographic and Yankee Stadium, which
was fifteen to sixty, because that's what was in there,
that's what was in there. I want artists to keep
making music even though they're labeled this because you still

(01:18:26):
have fans. We still enjoy the music, and along with
enjoying everything young, we still enjoy everything the next level up.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
Also, be very careful out there, all the artists out there,
be very careful out there, because you in the light,
you are a target. There is no way around it.
Stay focused, Stay away from that rico, stay away from that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:54):
We go only Puerto Rico. The only Rico you need
to know is Porto Rico.

Speaker 2 (01:19:01):
Don't have a vacation.

Speaker 3 (01:19:03):
Nah that ship Nah, that shit real out there.

Speaker 5 (01:19:06):
That's a bar you might hear next. It's poco.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
Stay away. You are talking.

Speaker 3 (01:19:16):
If you ever was paranoid, if you ever thought people
were watching you, they are. You can't.

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
I can't do shit, okay, fat Joe, And I'm an
old school right. I walk out of a hotel. True story,
pick of time. Six in the morning, six in the morning.
I looked to the right.

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
Bam, somebody through the window got the camera. I walked
to get in the car.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
Bam.

Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
Somebody at the bus stop got the camera. I walk
in the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
Bam, they got the drivers. Like this, yo, I got.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
Fetch You're done. You're done.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
If you don't see these cameras all over, like, you
gotta be crazy. You're not getting away with a crime.
You're just not getting away with a crime. Your phone towers,
they know where you're at. Like, don't be dumb out here.
If your dream was I grew up poor, I have

(01:20:12):
a dream of being successful, buying my mother a house.
When you do become successful, why play that game. There's
something very interesting. Jeez told me when the other day.
He said, t I saw him counting mad money in
the studio one day and t I said, Yo, let

(01:20:32):
me holler at you. It's the first time they met,
and he said yeah. He said, well, you know you
can't do both. He said, you're very, very talented. I
believe you could be a superstar. You can't sell drugs
and rap is just not gonna work. And so that's
very important for everybody to know. You can't be out
here doing these crimes, you know, because you're gonna get

(01:20:57):
caught up sooner or later. But shit, we did it
to our special record up Joe. I thought we had
a Tony Yayo drink champ. So that motherfucker went five
and a half hours. God damn, I have to wait
for the fourth hour and thirty ninth minute to hear
about that. Joe and Terror squad up Dizzy and that motherfucker.

(01:21:20):
We'll save you something for later, Thank you, save a
little piece for late, a little bit, pea crack man,
appreciate you. Appreciate you man, Thank you, guys. Raparate on podcasts, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:21:31):
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(01:21:53):
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