Cowboy Logic, December 14th, 2024

Segment 1: Cowboy Logic: Headlines

Segment 2: Cowboy Logic: Headlines

Segment 3: Cowboy Logic: Tee Jay Henderson

Segment 4: Cowboy Logic: Tee Jay Henderson

Segment 5: Cowboy Logic: James Grant

Segment 6: Cowboy Logic: James Grant

Segment 7: Cowboy Logic: Carolyn Thomas

Segment 8: Cowboy Logic: Carolyn Thomas

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:22):
And and inter.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
And in.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Hello, Cowboy logic viewers.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
Let me be the first to welcome you to an
absolutely riveting show.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
I'm Ron Phillips.

Speaker 5 (01:21):
Boy, we got a show for you.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, come from Luke.

Speaker 6 (01:29):
Where's Luke? Luke must be on a hot date. Hey, Ron,
come back here and here on a.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Side by side with it.

Speaker 6 (01:35):
Yeay, guys, look at Ron Phillips sitting in for Luke Barnes. Everybody,
it's uncle Ron, it's producer Ron. A bit seriously, here's
what's going on. Luke is fine. Luke is working very
diligently so that he can afford to go out on
a hot date. And Ron was gracious enough to sit

(01:58):
in with us. And it's awesome to have our brother
back here. What I'm hoping is that you won't bore
Ron with your headlines because never well you might.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
You might once in a while. You guys pick on me,
Yeah we do, but we love you all.

Speaker 5 (02:15):
Right, headlines, I'm going to get the headlines right now.

Speaker 7 (02:19):
One oh, wait a minute, one seat.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
We got DJT outside of the Santa costume. I'm digging that, Okay,
go ahead.

Speaker 5 (02:31):
Donald, I love that.

Speaker 7 (02:32):
That's too funny, we have a one seat majority. Come
out of the where is the RNC here? Yo, wake
up people. You cannot tell me there was no steal
in twenty twenty or twenty twenty four, quite honestly, because
the steal was hashtag down ballot. Okay, they knew.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
What I say.

Speaker 5 (02:55):
You did see?

Speaker 3 (02:56):
What did I say? Yep? What did I say?

Speaker 5 (02:59):
You said that they're gonna steal it down.

Speaker 6 (03:02):
They're going to let Trump win because they know it's
going to be too big and they're going to steal
the down ballot it was and guess who.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Jovon I was right, Yep, it was too big to rig.

Speaker 7 (03:13):
However, you cannot tell me somebody voted for Reuben Diego
and not carry Lake in Arizona, voted for Trump, voted
for Trump because you know Trump, it was too big
to rig.

Speaker 5 (03:23):
Everybody votes straight down ballot.

Speaker 6 (03:25):
California thirty days later, finally being able to tally up
what they needed to take a seat.

Speaker 5 (03:30):
You know, it's miraculous. One hundred percent of the recounts
and the dragging out, one hundred percent of those races
went to Democrat.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
That is so weird, it's amazing weird how that happened.

Speaker 7 (03:43):
So until they have special elections to take Matt Gates's
seat and a couple others, what you're gonna probably go Republican.

Speaker 5 (03:49):
We have a one one or two two.

Speaker 7 (03:51):
I think one is still up in the air, but
I'll prompt sure that one will go to the Democrats
as well.

Speaker 5 (03:55):
This is just ridiculous.

Speaker 7 (03:57):
We need to have and Patrick Burn agreed with us
last week, we need to have a nationwide re registration
of voting because then you will have the ability to
see where the steal is coming from, because it's pretty
obvious it's not the most secure election ever.

Speaker 6 (04:13):
What would you guys think of that? Patrick Byrne docu series.

Speaker 7 (04:16):
Huh that was a mind blow woo, it really was. So,
you know, what has been revealed, quite honestly, is the
fact that the left always reveals themselves, including Barack Obama.
Obama accuses Republicans of rigging elections and weaponizing the criminal justice.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
What have they done for four years?

Speaker 8 (04:39):
Go ahead, Ron, Potentially when once I tries to stack
the deck and lock in a permanent.

Speaker 9 (04:52):
Grip on power, either by actively e spressing votes or
politicizing they armed forces, or using the judiciary criminal justice
system go after opponents, and in those circumstances, pluralism does
not call for us to just stand back and say, well, I'm.

Speaker 8 (05:12):
Not sure that's okay. In those circumstances, a line has
been crossed.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
Could those pauses get any more pregnant?

Speaker 7 (05:25):
You think a line has been crossed, they're still arresting
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For trust sentencing them.

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You know it also takes hutzpah.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
What Donald Donald.

Speaker 7 (08:42):
Trump goes to the reopening of Notre Dame, but the
Pope doesn't. But you know who else does is Zelenski.

Speaker 5 (08:49):
Zelensky's open.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
There is fundraising, you know.

Speaker 5 (08:52):
Meanwhile, meanwhile, we're sending hundreds of millions more to Ukraine
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Operation Shelter doing awesome stuff. Meanwhile, the Biden crime family
is spending another.

Speaker 5 (09:57):
He's it Notre Dame too right now as we speak, to.

Speaker 7 (10:00):
Hundred and seventy five million in a security aid package
to Ukraine.

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Speaker 3 (10:07):
I'm telling you, isn't Zelenski. Oh you put them asleep
with your headliner.

Speaker 5 (10:13):
You know you know run, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (10:18):
You can be smacked upside the head Ron.

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You know that.

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I know I've been there.

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Speaker 1 (10:42):
Ron.

Speaker 6 (10:42):
We are glad that you're here with us, and that
you're going to spend this this week with us.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
And we do.

Speaker 6 (10:48):
Miss you, Luke, we do Missia, and I bet Linda
misses you too. Hey, everybody, we got more fun and
games coming up, and then we've got some.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
Really serious stuff.

Speaker 6 (10:58):
We've got some Jay six, We've got some human trafficking
stuff coming up that's very dark.

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You're watching Cowboy Logic with Ron Phillips in the house.
We'll be back.

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to my friends Donna and Don on Cowboy Logic. Let
us never forget that police Lives matter.

Speaker 5 (12:43):
And we're back on Cowboy Logic. I knew that was coming.
Is that your number two pencil?

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gives everybody. Yep, all right, more headlines from Donna Well.

Speaker 7 (13:05):
I started the last segment with the number one. Now
I'm going to start the next segment with eight hundred
and five hundred and forty six million.

Speaker 5 (13:17):
What are they?

Speaker 7 (13:18):
Eight hundred is the IRS agents that oh over five
hundred and forty six million dollars in unpaid taxes? Doge
call everyone. We got to give the Doge a bone.
We definitely got to give the Doge a bone here, Elon.

Speaker 6 (13:34):
Muskin, you've got any idea how much money we spend
every year so that our taxes are done properly and
everything's in order, and we pay everything that we're supposed
to pay. But you got IRS agents that are screwing
everything up, and they're not paying their taxes and they
owe a bunch of money.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
What's wrong with that?

Speaker 7 (13:57):
This Department of Government Efficiency, which to me is an oxymoron,
has some major work ahead of it. Okay, nine hundred
and eleven million HHS on COVID nineteen propaganda was spent
twenty thousand for drag shows in Ecuador. Four hundred and
fifty thousand to find out if dinosaurs could sing five

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hundred and forty nine.

Speaker 5 (14:21):
I wonder what the answer was on that. How much
four hundred fifty thousand.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
Five hrather dinosaur sang?

Speaker 5 (14:29):
How do they figure that one out? That's what I
don't know.

Speaker 7 (14:32):
Five hundred forty nine thousand for cat experiments eight hundred
and seventeen thousand, for studying monkey drool eight hundred and
seventeen thousand.

Speaker 5 (14:43):
I wonder how much the Nancy Pelosi.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Eternal Is series are serious?

Speaker 7 (14:47):
Three point five million study proving that fear of pain
is why you're afraid of the dentist g root canals
might come into play there as well.

Speaker 6 (14:58):
I mean, this is hey, Ron, real quick and are
you still can you still pop in here?

Speaker 5 (15:01):
This is just ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
I can't let me get yeah, unbelievable. I mean, okay,
I'm here.

Speaker 7 (15:08):
Government waste three million dollars?

Speaker 5 (15:13):
How do they figure that out?

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Well?

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Barney did?

Speaker 5 (15:16):
Yeah, Well that's.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
True, Barney. Oh damn it.

Speaker 6 (15:19):
Right, I am right, And I'm thinking that that's probably
I'm thinking that's probably why they investigated that.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
Great, okay, we'll scratch that one off. Figured that one out.

Speaker 7 (15:32):
How did they get how did they get Barney to
actually show up if they used a green screen?

Speaker 3 (15:37):
That's okay?

Speaker 6 (15:37):
What were those before we move on to something else?
What were those creepy little teletubby things? Those were creepy?
Were they creeped me out?

Speaker 3 (15:44):
They creepy? I didn't love my kids watch that. I
let them watch Barney and watch them they like they.

Speaker 6 (15:50):
Like Barney, but creepy Tellytubby look look like little people
on acid.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
I know something like that?

Speaker 5 (15:57):
Is all right?

Speaker 7 (15:58):
Canada, Bye, Ron, Canada is let.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
Me have another CBD, chewyed whatever those things are for. Yeah, really,
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Speaker 5 (16:09):
So we get this.

Speaker 7 (16:09):
Canada bans three hundred and twenty four more firearms, announcing
confiscated weapons.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Get a load of this.

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I need another one of these gummies to veg out here.

Speaker 7 (16:22):
They will be sent to Ukraine, Theraine, the Ukraine's Ukrainians
are going to get these guns that are banned and
confiscated from Canada.

Speaker 5 (16:35):
You think I made this stuff up?

Speaker 12 (16:37):
Watch this Today, the government is adding a further three
hundred and twenty four unique makes and models of assault
style firearms to the list of prohibited firearms in Canada.
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no longer be legally used, sold or imported in Canada,
and can only be transferred or transported under extremely limited circumstances.
As part of that process, the Government of Canada has
committed to the Ukrainian government to identify whether some of
these guns could be donated to support the fight for

(17:27):
democracy in Ukraine.

Speaker 6 (17:31):
That was the Minians are going to say, no, we
don't want him because they're all semi automatic.

Speaker 7 (17:37):
Not only that, like thirty percent of Ukraine's Ukrainians don't.

Speaker 5 (17:40):
Want to continue.

Speaker 6 (17:42):
Zelensky is the poster child for the world's welfare recipient.
So he'll take him and then what he'll do is
probably sell them.

Speaker 13 (17:50):
Well.

Speaker 7 (17:50):
Members of Congress, you know, and the Sendate I'm sure
are getting.

Speaker 5 (17:54):
Enriched by that.

Speaker 7 (17:55):
This is That was, by the way, the Minister of
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Speaker 3 (18:00):
I'm sure it was.

Speaker 5 (18:01):
Okay.

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Doesn't wrong like an action. I'm told one too.

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Roll puppy Bannon m Yeah, baby, he is cute.

Speaker 7 (21:07):
Hope he stays that way, so clean up isn't quite
so difficult when he's so cute.

Speaker 6 (21:12):
Yeah, he was trying to eat princesses food and grain.
But you know Princess was quite tolerant of that little
outfield that, don't you think.

Speaker 7 (21:21):
Yeah, we have other rescue dogs who weren't so lucky,
as they chased horses through the years and had absolutely
no teeth left. And for some reason they don't realize
that that's why they have no teeth left, because they
chase horses just like.

Speaker 5 (21:35):
They chase cars. So what can you do?

Speaker 7 (21:37):
It's too funny, But you know, here on the farm,
it's freezing cold. Even in weird hot Lanta, it's freezing cold.
You notice Princess had had a blankey on. All the
horses have blankies on now to protect from you knowing,
the snow falling, and Donald Trump's getting the snow falling
on him as well. So we thought we'd show you
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all over the country, actually all over the world, but
it's a compilation of how animals are horses particular fair
in the snow, because I got to tell you, if
you get a lot of snow on the horses feet,
it balls up in the feet.

Speaker 5 (22:15):
They can fly all over the place, they can get hurt.
It's kind of scary.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
Well, and one time we had a white Christmas here.

Speaker 6 (22:22):
It was like the only day of the year that
the snow snowed, or that it snowed, and our horses
were having a ball.

Speaker 7 (22:29):
Yeah, well they didn't know what it was, but they
were having a ball on it. And here's a few
other horses also that are having a ball.

Speaker 6 (22:36):
All the weather outside is frightful, but the fire is
so delightful.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
And since we've no place to go, let it snow,
Let it snow.

Speaker 15 (22:49):
Let it snow. Man, it doesn't show signs is stopping.
And I've brought misson called for popping the lights that
turned to read on.

Speaker 16 (23:01):
Let it SnO, Let it snong when we finally kiss
good night.

Speaker 15 (23:08):
How I'll hate going out.

Speaker 9 (23:10):
In the storm, but if you really hold me time
all the way home?

Speaker 5 (23:17):
Are they warm and the fire is hold and dying,
And my dear, we're still goodbye.

Speaker 16 (23:26):
But as long as you love me, so let it snow,
Let it snow ends.

Speaker 15 (23:47):
When we finally kiss good night.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
How I'll heat going.

Speaker 6 (23:52):
Out in the storm, but if you really grab me
time all the way home out.

Speaker 17 (24:02):
This is thirteen year old Logan Henderson. He lives on
a ranch in the middle of Nebraska, isolated from much
of the world. He often listens to KSBJ Christian radio
out of Houston, Texas, which he picks up on sky Angel.
In late October, Logan made a call to the station
that would soon be heard around the world.

Speaker 13 (24:27):
Hey Mike, can I talk to you?

Speaker 3 (24:29):
You bet?

Speaker 6 (24:30):
Logan?

Speaker 1 (24:30):
What's up?

Speaker 13 (24:32):
I want to tell you something that God just told me. Okay,
last night, my dad was roping this calf, and this
calf had been born from a really old cow. She
she didn't have really the greatest smoke. She didn't have
like the vitaman she and stuff.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
Okay, hold on, so cute. I guess his mom was
talking to.

Speaker 13 (25:01):
But sorry about that. But anyway, she broke her back
and this morning I went out and put her down myself.
I was talking to God. I was asking God why
she was special, and God said he you know, Logan,

(25:23):
but my son was special, but he died for a purpose.
It's kind of the same thing. That Cap was close
to me and God said, was close to him.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Balking, you're you're so right. It's true. I think you're
gonna be okay.

Speaker 13 (25:45):
Yeah, I'll be fine. But I just wanted to tell you,
guys that that is so important. Just remember when you
lose the loved one or a pet, always remember that
God gave his son too, and he understands. He will

(26:06):
always understand. He will always just run to him.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
Logan, You're wiser than you know, buddy.

Speaker 13 (26:16):
Oh. Sometimes I don't think I'm wise. Trust me, I've
done a lot of stupid stuff, but I've learned from you.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (26:25):
But see, buddy, that's what makes you why somebody that
learns from their mistakes.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
Oh, I just figured that bigger.

Speaker 13 (26:30):
Colin Sherley, you.

Speaker 6 (26:31):
Guys, love you love you too.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Love.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
Welcome back to Cowboy Logic.

Speaker 6 (26:39):
Everybody remembers Logan's phone call. We played it about a
month ago, ladies and gentlemen, and it was one of
the most amazing moments in my sixty.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
Three years of life.

Speaker 6 (26:51):
That's awesome, and as a result, I've reached out to
that family and our guest this week, Well, this segment
is going to be Logan's mom, TJ. Henderson. Now, we
got a lot of things in common.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
She's a horse.

Speaker 6 (27:06):
Girl and lives on a ranch and probably has horsepoop
in her boots as we speak.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
But there's some things that we don't have in common.

Speaker 6 (27:17):
And it's going to be a very interesting interview.

Speaker 5 (27:23):
Donna, this is gonna be hard for me to read. TJ.

Speaker 7 (27:28):
Henderson, Logan's mom, is a victorious survivor of human trafficking,
satanic ritual abuse, and mental emotional programming, as well as
the author of a book called Becoming Untethered, exposing the
dark agenda with God's Truth.

Speaker 5 (27:47):
TJ and her family are ranchers.

Speaker 7 (27:48):
As Don said, and agricultural entrepreneurs who have learned firsthand
what is needed to overcome principalities and powers of darkness
that relentlessly them for years until the Holy Spirit brought
a path to freedom. TJ now leads his House Agency
designed to help bring God's truth, light and freedom to

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industry and spiritual leaders and survivors of various forms of
the dark agenda, which is I think a good way
of putting it, the evil that is out there. And
I mean when Dawn reached out to Logan's mom and
this is just not something we expected.

Speaker 6 (28:30):
No, no, it completely blindsided me. TJ, please join us.
Welcome to Cowboy Logic. After a couple of weeks of
you and I having very lengthy phone calls and.

Speaker 5 (28:44):
It's awesome for you to I want to talk about this.

Speaker 6 (28:47):
I want to say, very quickly, ladies and gentlemen, there's
absolutely no way we're going to get everything we want to.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
Get in in this interview. It's not possible.

Speaker 6 (28:56):
So we're going to touch on a few things and
then we're going to bring TJ back in the future
to where we can have a more in depth conversation.
But very briefly, TJ, would you please talk about how
thirteen year old Logan Henderson's phone call was a sudden
God moment. It wasn't a little gifted twelve thirteen year

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old kid that just that was God talking through Logan.

Speaker 18 (29:25):
First of all, Donna and Donna, thank you for having
me on. And it won't be too far into this
that most people will realize I do not have it
all together. I have been a very broken person. I
show up raw and real and just to share my
story of what God has done. And the phone call

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was the start of God blowing open wide the doors
to what He wanted to do in this family, to
set us free from a dark agenda that we had
no comprehension we were tethered too. When Logan was eighteen
months old, I remember sitting in the rickety old trailer
house we lived in, Mike and I lived in for

(30:07):
seven years on the ranch when we first moved here,
and I knew God was calling us to a different life.
I had no idea what that meant. I had no
idea what we needed to get free from. But I
begged God when Logan was eighteen months old, to make
our life different. And God showed up in an immediate,

(30:31):
suddenly moment on this ranch, a moment that was heartbreaking
to Logan. And I remember the day as if it
was yesterday, and it was seventeen years ago. Logan came
in the door tears stained, and he said, Mom, I
have something to tell you that God just put on

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my heart.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
And it was not.

Speaker 18 (30:53):
Uncommon for Logan to do that. Logan was an emotional
child who's knee is We're not getting met because his
mom was not emotionally available. He came in. I said, Logan,
we have to get in the truck to head to
the rodeo. Can you hold this until we get in

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the pickup? He couldn't hold it. On the Holy Spirit's moving,
you can't hold it in. He ran downstairs. You called
KSPJ in Houston, whom he had a connection with, and
that was the phone call and the rest is history.

Speaker 7 (31:33):
Now you talk about an ancient old agenda to ravage
the body, soul, and the spirit. But yet I feel
through Logan you might not have realized it, but you
had that connection to God.

Speaker 18 (31:50):
M we did. And I had that connection from a
very very small age. I had so much development trauma
that I had repressed and or was erased intentionally. So
it wasn't until twenty eighteen I started having memory of

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being trafficked, of being abused by family members. So when
God showed up on the scene, I knew him. I
knew he had been with me. I knew he had
spared me from much, and I knew that there was
much yet to do. So the dark age old agenda

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that I had encountered as a child was deeply tethered
to me in the spiritual realm because of my bloodlines,
and it was deeply attached to me mentally, physically, emotionally
because of the childhood trauma and all that I encountered
and endured as a child.

Speaker 6 (33:01):
What do you mean because you you were raised, you
spent a lot of time in church, and you spend
a lot of time as an adult in church. You
taught Bible school, you you attended church. You you tried
to to bring yourself close to God. Yeah, what do
you mean when you say the church has been raped

(33:22):
by her ignorance?

Speaker 18 (33:26):
Well? I didn't.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
That's a tough one. That's a tough one.

Speaker 7 (33:30):
It's a tough one. You got a couple of minutes
in this segment we want to get to that.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (33:35):
I remember the day that I was in this room,
I was working on the book, and the Holy Spirit
just spoke it so clearly to me, and his heart
in it was redemption it was truth, and it was
I want my church to wake up to the realities

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of what's going on so that I can set them
free and they can be a vessel for a multitude
of hurting people who have no answers in this dark,
dark world we find ourselves in. And I didn't grow
up in church, Don Mike, and I started going to
church after we were married, and I learned God's word

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together with my kids.

Speaker 6 (34:22):
All right, well, thank you for correcting me on that,
ladies and gentlemen. I tried to absorb a lot in
many phone calls, so I get a pass on that.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
I get a mile again on that one.

Speaker 6 (34:34):
We got about a minute before we have to go
to break, and I want to touch on a very
positive thing about your world and your family and your life.
But I'm going to actually touch on it for you
because we just don't have enough time before we have
to go to break. And that is your husband has

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stuck with you through every bit of this, every bit
of this darkness, bit of this not understanding, not being
able to comprehend and understand, and then once the purging
started and you started the surviving and the healing of this,
he stuck with you, and it was ladies and gentlemen.

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It was difficult. It was extremely difficult. I encourage you.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
You've seen the crawl going across the top of the screen. There.
This is the book. I ordered this book right before Thanksgiving.
You can pick it up on Amazon when.

Speaker 6 (35:31):
We get back from this break that we've got to
go to. You guys are action people, and we're going
to find out from TJ how to fix this. You're
watching Cowboy Life.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
Welcome back to Capitaly Logic, everybody. We've got TJ.

Speaker 6 (36:20):
Henderson Logan's mom in the barn with us tonight. And
you know, before we went to break, I talked about
the fact that your husband was there. It was an
unwavering commitment to you. You guys have been married thirty
plus years from what I understand. And I would say

(36:41):
also that we could add Mike to the married up
guys club like I'm a member of because he probably.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
Married up with you.

Speaker 6 (36:49):
I can go I haven't seen Mike, ben I'm gonna
say that he probably married.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
Up, but talk very briefly about what it took for Mike.

Speaker 6 (36:58):
To stand with you through.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
All of this.

Speaker 18 (37:03):
Oh my goodness, that's a difficult one because I'm not
in his shoes. And I know there was times it
was so hard when I would be on the floorboard
of a pickup in a PTSD state and neither one
of us had any idea why I was having a reaction,
or why I would be in the middle of the
kitchen floor crying and have no idea why I was crying.

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It was utterly bewildering to his tender heart, but he
did the work. He would talk with me, with the
Christian psychologists. We would talk about the future, we would
talk about what the possibilities were of me healing and
getting free, and every step of the way he might
have been utterly bewildered, but he was willing to step in.

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He was willing to pray, and he was willing to
do the work well.

Speaker 6 (37:51):
And as your body was purging this satanic, this demonic,
this evil that was residing inside of you, you actually
had physical things that were going on during this purging
that would trigger a memory for you that you hadn't
had before. For example, your foot started giving your trouble.

(38:15):
One day you were working out on the farm and
all of a sudden you couldn't walk, and it triggered
a memory of electrocution.

Speaker 18 (38:22):
Wow, it did, and it was the part of my story.
I haven't talked about a lot. That's not in the book.
It'll be in the next book. But that's the mind
control part of my story. And that moment of being
electrocuted as a child was part of erasing my memory, which,
like I stated, I didn't start having again until twenty eighteen.

(38:45):
So yeah, I can have random things that pop up.
Our bodies are incredible. They evil might try to erase
our memory, might try to take our mind away, but
our bodies have this incredible ability to remember. There's an
amazing book called The Body Keeps the Score, and that's
absolutely what my body has done.

Speaker 7 (39:06):
Well, you know your husband and your family like like
your your baseball cap says you're blessed?

Speaker 5 (39:13):
Are true?

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Well, you are.

Speaker 6 (39:14):
Blessed, And I want to give you an opportunity to
do something that I'm not sure. We may have done
this on the show, we may have had a guest
do this before, but you specifically ask us if we
would allow you to pray over our viewing audience. And
the last thing I want to do is go to
break with you in the middle of a prayer.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
So I want to get that and to get to.

Speaker 6 (39:39):
That right now. I'm going to leave this to you
and TJ. Pray to our viewing audience. Pray over our
viewing audience. I'll remove my hat.

Speaker 18 (39:53):
Lord Jesus, you and I have walked through many, many
waters together. I know you in a way that a
lot of people don't know you, and that is the
blessing of my story. And we've had many conversations Lord
about how many hurting people there are out in our country,

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people listening right now, who have been ravaged their hearts,
their homes, their families, their health, their finances have been
ravaged by this very dark agenda that has been craftily
hiding under the surface of this country for fifty years
or more. Lord Jesus, I ask you to touch each

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and every person right now, right where they are, to
open their hearts, open their eyes, open their minds to
who you really are. You're not a distant god that
we can maybe feel your presence at church once in
a while. No, you want to engage our everyday life.

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And the phone call was perfect proof of that. It
was evidence, King Yushua, that you are the King of kings,
You are the Lord of Lord, and through a little
boy's voice, you met people in their cars at home,
moms taking care of their children, parents that were grieving.

(41:29):
Oh my goodness, the letters we got, Lord, of people
that were touched by the call. I know you want
to continue to do the same thing. So Father, I
lift up each and every person's heart listening. I lift
up their families, their finances, their health. Lord, And in

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twenty twenty five, I ask you to do above and
beyond just like you did for this family. And this
family is living proof of what you can do. I
pray that you touch them like you have touched us,
that you heal them, you dust them off, you set
them on their feet, and you bless them Lord with truth,

(42:11):
with healing, with miracle, signs and wonders, just like you
did in the in the Bible, you still do now.
And I ask it all in Jesus' name.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
Amen. Amen, nice job, Preacher.

Speaker 5 (42:26):
That was beautiful now, you know, just real quick though.
I don't think people realize.

Speaker 7 (42:30):
In two thousand and seven the internet was not all
that you know available, right, and six million people.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
Plot well that was that was the first hit. That
was the first hit.

Speaker 5 (42:41):
Have heard Logan's call.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
All right, we've got about five minutes left. Uh TJ.
I said it before.

Speaker 6 (42:49):
Our viewing audience are action oriented people. First thing they're
going to do is they're going to go to Tjhnderson
dot com and they are going to buy this book
book or I will come after them. The second thing
that we need them to do is educate them on
what to look for in their own family, in their

(43:11):
own neighborhood, in their own school system. Because quite frankly,
if you and I would have grown up together, I
would have thought, Hey, you're just another barrel racing girl.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
Okay, tell me what they need to look for. What
do we look.

Speaker 6 (43:27):
For in our own orbit to find somebody that has
the level of darkness that you've had to endure your
entire life.

Speaker 18 (43:40):
The first thing that people can do is to be
intentional to address their own unawareness because the enemy has
been craftily at work in this nation to hoodwink people
and people their awareness of what's going on around them
has been taken away at times and diminish. So that's

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the first thing people can do is to educate themselves
to become more aware of what has been going on.
It's a tough question. Don because these things can be
craftily buried. I was a high achieving student. I was
an athlete. I had won multiple state awards in high

(44:24):
school rodeo. So I was achieving over at the top.
But if people really paid attention, they would have noticed.
I was emotional at times. I would cry at the
drop of a hat. I had an eating disorder. I
was did not have secure attachment to my parents, nor

(44:47):
really to anybody around me. Relationship was challenging, Communicating was challenging.
So you know, you get the children that look neglected,
but then you have ones like me who looked like
they were doing they were taken care of, they were excelling.

(45:09):
But you got to stop and pay attention. And if
you stop and look into children's eyes, they.

Speaker 6 (45:16):
Will tell you, yeah, you know, you got to put
your phones down and look in their eyes.

Speaker 5 (45:22):
But with nothing else.

Speaker 7 (45:23):
You know, as far as the open borders, and it's
not even the borders in your case, you know, it
was different, it was local.

Speaker 5 (45:30):
But we have three.

Speaker 7 (45:30):
Hundred and eighty thousand children missing in this country now,
and you know, your story's one part of it. But
the thing is, I think so many people's eyes are
being open now and hopefully with this new administration, we
can put in to this nightmare.

Speaker 6 (45:46):
Yes, that's the last place that I want to go,
because we got less than two minutes. Unfortunately, look into
your little crystal ball there, and what do you think
is going to go down in twenty twenty five, because
the darkness is going to be revealed and it's going
to be traumatic. I think when we all see this,
your thoughts on that we only got a minute, Well.

Speaker 18 (46:09):
First of all, I don't use a crystal ball.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
I'm glad you got that.

Speaker 18 (46:16):
And God has given me lots of encouragement about twenty
twenty five that there's going to be a lot of
darkness come to light. The church needs to be prepared
for what's coming. They need to study up on stories
like mine and how to help people get free and

(46:37):
be ready to put on your spiritual armor and take
up the sword of the spirit, which is the word
of God.

Speaker 6 (46:44):
And I would like to suggest also have your pastor,
have your preacher, have your minister reach out to TJ.
She can help them understand how to correct this within.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
The church big time. What were you going to say?

Speaker 7 (47:00):
I was just going to say as a joke when
we were talking off air because Logan did some rodeoing
as well. Don wanted to know if he had all
ten digits still into yas.

Speaker 6 (47:09):
He still got all ten digits in tech because the
rovers tend to be short a few.

Speaker 5 (47:15):
He does as much.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
TJ. We appreciate you taking the time to join us.

Speaker 6 (47:22):
Thank you for talking about things that are obviously very
painful but at the same time very joyful.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
Ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 6 (47:29):
You've been seeing that website go across the screen the
entire time. This is the book, that's the lady, that's
Logan's mom, and you can find.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
Out anything you need to know, and you can put
your preachers in touch with her. At TJ Henderson dot com.
You're watching Cowboy Logic. Drums are up next. How can

(49:24):
I feel fa our party?

Speaker 6 (49:40):
Drummer's rock every last one of you. You need to
remind a happy birthday to an d m Uh let's
give Donald Trump President Trump a birthday too, so we'll wish.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
Him a happy birthday.

Speaker 6 (49:51):
Uh, little lamb, happy anniversary goes out to Djengis Khan
and Missus.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
Khan and brother Dana.

Speaker 6 (49:59):
We miss you last week and so we're going to
make sure that we've drawn some attention to you.

Speaker 5 (50:04):
It was my birthday to yeah, and.

Speaker 6 (50:06):
Donna's birthday like a fine wine.

Speaker 5 (50:11):
Hey, listen, I count backwards now, you know.

Speaker 6 (50:14):
Of late, we've had some pretty good news with regard
to our beloved Jay Sixers. They're starting to come home,
and we've got another one that's going to join us
today that's coming home. Last time we talked to him,
we were talking to him from the DC goulog and
before that, I think the first time we ever talked
to him it was in Lewisbourg's penitentiary. But that is

(50:36):
one James Grant hailing from the great state of North Carolina.
Welcome James, James. It is awesome to actually be able
to see you now as opposed to just talk to
you over a prison phone or a jail phone. Welcome
to Cowboy and Ajac and welcome back to freedom.

Speaker 16 (50:53):
Hey, so, oh my gosh, it it is good to
be back. Thank you, don Thank you Donna. Yeah, no,
I'm thrilled to be out. By the grace of God.
It's good to talk to you guys.

Speaker 6 (51:05):
All right, anybody that's had their head in the sand
for the past three years, why don't you give them
an update on what happened to your life. You were
a law student and all of a sudden that came
to a grinding halt when you got it rested for
going to Jay six and ended up doing time with
all the rest of the brothers there that we love

(51:26):
so dearly.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
So give us a.

Speaker 6 (51:27):
Brief thumbnail sketch of what happened to your world and
how it was ruined.

Speaker 16 (51:32):
So, yeah, I was a political science major. I graduated
from NC State University with honors. And you know, I
was an outspoken conservative and that's always hard, especially as
you know, in the liberal university system.

Speaker 15 (51:47):
And on January sixth, I pushed the fence.

Speaker 16 (51:50):
You know, I was right at the front, right next
to Rayeps and I was facing one hundred and one
year as a trial. And some of the stuff that
I want to get into today is the complete lack
of transparency and the double standards at the initial breach,
so the so called initial breach, I.

Speaker 15 (52:10):
Myself was facing one hundred and one years and six.

Speaker 16 (52:14):
Months at trial if I was convicted on everything for
pushing offense and trespassing.

Speaker 15 (52:20):
Like you said, I.

Speaker 16 (52:20):
Had a near full ride to the University of Alabama,
Roll tide and instead of you know, instead of three
years in law school, I did three years in federal
custody and now I have three years of probation.

Speaker 15 (52:36):
And but you know, it's it's.

Speaker 16 (52:37):
Great to be out, but I'm putting my life back together,
and it's it's it's crazy because you know, I was
also sucker punched that day for trying to pull someone
off of a police officer. And you know, they admitted
a trial defense. I pushed did not touch anybody. You know,
I went to full trial against the federal government and
I was actually acquitted of five with nine charges.

Speaker 15 (53:00):
You won't find this in any media outlet, all of them, and.

Speaker 16 (53:04):
They all of course wrote articles about this sentencing and
they all leave this backed out and I'm actually looking
to sue a number of outlets for what they've done.
But no, it's great to be out. You know, this
this rum my life and so many other J sixers' lives.
You know that they raided us at gunpoint, dragged us
across the country to Washington, d C. To be housed

(53:26):
by guards that absolutely hate us, and we're doing everything
in their power to put us in dangerous situations and
get us killed. So then there's that there's a media slander.
You know, there's people that think January six ers are
getting fair sentences, and you know, the lawyers in the
beginning told us, yeah, maybe expect to do a year

(53:48):
and even get it pled down to a misdemeanor because
most of these assaults would not have even been charged.
I think we're all familiar with Ruben Arthur Camacho, a
d C protester who punched a female police officer in
the face and slammed her against the wall, and Matthew Graves,
the prosecutor in that case, gave him forty eight hours

(54:11):
of community service.

Speaker 15 (54:12):
So obviously I'm.

Speaker 16 (54:13):
In favor of bringing all the j sixers home, and
I'm going to talk about it a little bit in
a second. But the Feds, because because the argument against
that is all, what about the Feds that were.

Speaker 13 (54:23):
There that day.

Speaker 15 (54:25):
I think you just need to look at ray Epps
to see how the government they went to so many
lengths not to charge ray Epps, who I personally heard
whispering to my co defendants here we need more people.
I heard that firsthand.

Speaker 16 (54:41):
I heard him say that, you know, I'm a law student,
I'm not a lot and actually I've heard its on
video now, so that's even more confirmed. But you saw
the reluctance with which that they did not want to,
you know, charge ray Epps. And that's how people who
have federal protection are treated.

Speaker 15 (54:58):
You know.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
Let's go to let's go to that photo, James.

Speaker 6 (55:01):
Let's go to that photo and you can talk about
what's going on in this In this film photo.

Speaker 5 (55:06):
Right in front of ray Epps, there's you to the
left there.

Speaker 15 (55:09):
Yeah, no, I heard him whisper.

Speaker 16 (55:11):
And again, why would you whisper something that you unless
you didn't want people to hear it for some reason.

Speaker 15 (55:17):
So he whispers, you know, we need more people.

Speaker 16 (55:20):
And he even said in a text later I orchestrated it. Now,
you have a very educated audience, so I'm sure they
understand the fifteen twelve obstruction of an official preceding charge
that President Trump was charged with.

Speaker 15 (55:34):
That I was charged with.

Speaker 16 (55:35):
And hundreds of others were would not say I orchestrated it.
Would that not at a minimum, because people got it
for less. I got it because I sent to Georgia
state representatives and I said, you know, desertify, we saw
the fraud, and they use that to.

Speaker 15 (55:53):
Give me a fifteen twelve. I orchestrated it.

Speaker 16 (55:56):
And so it's just it speaks to the reluctance with
which they don't want to charge their federal assets. So
to anyone saying don't pardon the January six ers, these
people have gone through absolute health for four years, and
I can promise you almost not. You know, none of
the federal informants and agents were charged that day, and

(56:18):
ray Epps was only charged because there was so much
outrage and so many people demanded it that they said,
we have to give him.

Speaker 7 (56:24):
Something, you know what, James, here's the other thing, real
quick though, I don't want to interrupt you, but the
thing with rey Epps, and with so many people involved
with this, they get highlighted on sixty minutes, they get
accolades on all the major media outlets. That right there
goes and tells you pretty much who was an inside
job and who wasn't ray Epps obviously, like you say,

(56:46):
never really, he got a slap on the wrist, never
had to show up, was sentenced by Zoom. Everybody else
has to go to DC, spend all these hundreds of
thousands of dollars in legal fees and everything else. The
whole double standard when four years later it shows really
that it was a FED surrection.

Speaker 5 (57:03):
That was Ryan Sampsel.

Speaker 7 (57:04):
Let me just say with that Ray Epps was talking
to over on the right with the white hoodie.

Speaker 5 (57:09):
And I mean, everybody's done close to four years.

Speaker 16 (57:13):
This is insane right at a point too where we
have to remember, no police died that day, and that
was the big lie that was repeated by Joe Biden
and Kamala Harris this year in twenty twenty four, you know,
knowing that no one died that day, and they're saying this,
They both said it at the debates against Trump, you know,
So how could any of these people have gotten a

(57:34):
fair trial?

Speaker 15 (57:35):
But no.

Speaker 16 (57:36):
Going to the next picture, you can see so this
is at the initial breach, and this is me. So
I'm the one on the left and as you can see,
there's a sign in front of my face. My view
was completely obstructed. I could not see anything but the
person to the left of me, and I believe the
person to the right of me were never charged. I

(57:59):
faced one hundred and one years and six months, one
hundred and one years, over a century in prison, and
these people with facial recognition, with AI with you know,
phone triangulation. You're telling me they couldn't find any of
these people in four years, and now I'm hearing what
one was identified. Is he going to face one hundred
and one years or is you know we already went

(58:20):
to trial for that, so you know, just us just.

Speaker 5 (58:24):
Like they can't find the pipe bomber either.

Speaker 7 (58:26):
The people they saw the pipe bomber actually get into
a vehicle and they saw the license plate, but they
can't locate.

Speaker 6 (58:31):
All right, we gotta go to break, ladies and gentlemen.
You see it top a top of the screen. James
gives end Go account. It's time that he rebuilds his life,
and it's time that we all help gives end Go
slash James Grant. When we get back after talking to James,
or after the break, I should say, we're gonna pick

(58:52):
back up with James, and we're going to get into
all kinds of fascinating things that he would like to
talk about, including how he was treated in all the
various facilities that.

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Speaker 8 (01:00:38):
My name is jeff mckellup, retired Special Forces, Third Group
O eight three ninety four and three ninety six.

Speaker 15 (01:00:45):
I'm being held against my will.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
Jeffrey mc.

Speaker 7 (01:00:54):
Never tried, still in prison almost four years, hopefully a
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Speaker 5 (01:01:02):
He's not the only one.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
All right, let's get back with brother James.

Speaker 6 (01:01:05):
Grant James again, congratulations and welcome home, sir. Welcome back
to society where you are have been sorely needed. How
much time did you actually spend behind bars in various facilities?

Speaker 16 (01:01:24):
So I spent thirty two a little over thirty two
months total, at about a year at each facility. And
like you said, I was a mild mannered law student
before this, and I'll never be the same person. I
definitely have a little bit of PTSD. And unfortunately, the
first spot I went to was the worst spot. I mean,
there was constant fights. It was called Northern Neck Regional Jail,

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and it's called by some of the worst the worst
jail in the United States.

Speaker 15 (01:01:52):
And I absolutely believe that there were so many fights.

Speaker 16 (01:01:58):
The food was just tiny portions of brown crumble meat,
the water had an oily film on it and smelled
really bad, and there was a lot of things, you know,
And I think they relation that is that these people
have never been to jail before and they celebrate it,
because if you don't know how to act in jail,
which no one does, if you're an average you can't
act like an average person, like you do on the streets,

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you know, the slightest little thing. I remember I told
the guy in Northern Neck. He asked me for, you know,
sweets multiple times, so I said, wow, you really like
sweets too. He goes, well, hold on, now, I think
you're watching me. And you know, it was a whole
thing and someone had to calm him down and thankfully
de escalated.

Speaker 15 (01:02:37):
But just it's people are always.

Speaker 16 (01:02:39):
Looking to get angry, and these are you know, eighty
percent of these guys are veterans. Most of these people
don't have criminal records, business owners, law students.

Speaker 15 (01:02:49):
It's just despicable what they've done to us.

Speaker 16 (01:02:51):
But I mean, Northern Neck was so bad that the
marshalls had to, you know, get us out of there,
essentially after I spent thirteen months there. But they got
it out of there and they lost that I'm hoping
and I believe, but it was a battle to get
out of there, and then at a frying pan into
the fryar. I was moved to Uspleuisbourg and maximum security

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Federal President.

Speaker 15 (01:03:13):
Thankfully, there was that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
That was intimidating. That was an intimidating facility.

Speaker 10 (01:03:17):
Was it not well?

Speaker 16 (01:03:19):
When you pulled up it looked like Shawshank Redemption giant walls.
All the guards are six five five hundred pounds, you know,
two hundred and eighty pounds of pure muscle, and no,
it was terrifying and you could feel the.

Speaker 15 (01:03:31):
Energy on the guards.

Speaker 16 (01:03:33):
I got dragged out of the shower and sent to
a solitary confinement because I refused to sell up with
someone that had sex sex crimes against the child.

Speaker 6 (01:03:44):
So.

Speaker 16 (01:03:45):
You know, and he refused with these guards, and a
lot of them were good, but I had a problem
with one because I refused to sell with that inmate.
But he had to sell with someone because he had seizures.
So I politely gave him a letter and said, my
lawyer said to call him. Next thing I know is
put in solitary confinement. You lose your mind in there.
It's you in a room and they don't give you paper.

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There's no I asked for a bible. That wouldn't give
me one. He said, yeah, but he never got around
to it. And I mean, that's the quickest way you'll
lose your mind. And just the ridiculousness of having people
that had never and shouldn't have been in trouble for
these you know, most of the assaults, and people assume
people are getting fair sentences on these assaults.

Speaker 15 (01:04:26):
Again they're not.

Speaker 16 (01:04:27):
And the ridiculousness of having these people in federal maximum
security prison really showed itself at Louisbourg. I mean, they
didn't want to give us a handbook. If you raised
the reasonable complaint, they sell, they would just tear yourself
apart in a quote unquote sell search. But that was
just you know, it's it's it's sending a message to
destroy yourself.

Speaker 5 (01:04:46):
It's a shotty and you can't.

Speaker 6 (01:04:50):
There's no right decision from what we can tell.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
When you're behind bars.

Speaker 6 (01:04:55):
If you do something that's going to please the guards
and make your life a little easy, then you're gonna
piss off all your fellow inmates. If you do something
that's gonna please your fellow inmates, you stand a chance
of pissing off the CEOs. So there is no right answer.
The one thing that we have learned through this whole
process is you almost have to behave behind bars to

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the complete antithesis that you would behave in society. You know,
if you see somebody in society getting a living, snot
beat out of them on a street corner and you
decide you want to help protect that individual or move
in to help defend that individual.

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
That's kind of a noble.

Speaker 6 (01:05:36):
Thing to do.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
But if you do that behind bars, you got a
big problem on your hands, am I right?

Speaker 15 (01:05:43):
Oh yeah, absolutely, darned if you do, and darned if
you don't.

Speaker 20 (01:05:47):
And no.

Speaker 15 (01:05:48):
So after a year there, then finally I was taken to.

Speaker 16 (01:05:52):
The DC gulaig and you know, we were finding rat
feces in the food and we got it on camera,
and the guards were trying to, you know, just put
our lives in danger with everything they did. And you know,
they could have charged us all in our home districts,
but they were worried that we might get a fair
sentence out there, so they dragged us all the DC

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to be housed by people that hated us.

Speaker 15 (01:06:16):
And it's just a terrible it's a terrible recipe.

Speaker 6 (01:06:19):
Well and tried by then tried by people. See the
thing is, you know, you walk into that DC courtroom
and everybody that's in that courtroom other than you, oftentimes
a public defender included, considers that they were victims of

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January six.

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
So your jury's full of.

Speaker 6 (01:06:43):
Victims of January sixth. The prosecution feels like they're victims
of January sixth, The judges are victims of January sixth,
and a lot of times public defenders that are defending
j six ers feel like they're victims of January sixth.

Speaker 5 (01:06:58):
And they're still saying.

Speaker 7 (01:06:59):
Five people died, like you say, you've got Kamala Harris
up there at a debate.

Speaker 5 (01:07:02):
I'm screaming at the TV for the last four years,
name the five people.

Speaker 7 (01:07:07):
In fact, I think you posted again it's at James
Grant JA six on social media. You do a lot
of great posts on x but also you said TikTok
took a video down of Kamala Harris stating the.

Speaker 5 (01:07:21):
Five officers that were killed during the.

Speaker 7 (01:07:23):
Debate, and a picture of Lila Morris beating the crap
out of Roseanne Boylin so much so that the baton flew.

Speaker 5 (01:07:31):
Out of her hand.

Speaker 7 (01:07:32):
And yet they have apparently back a couple of years ago,
did an MPD internal affairs look at how Roseanne Boylin
was killed and they said that she was killed by
an objectively reasonable account.

Speaker 5 (01:07:48):
How do you murder somebody objectively reasonable?

Speaker 7 (01:07:51):
Because they also said that she was probably unconscious at
the time the beating occurred. So the whole thing is
a huge it's a huge cover up. You got sixty
minutes putting Matthew graves On and Ray Epsen, a bunch
of other people all involved. It's in my opinion, this
is why they're not putting out the forty four thousand

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hours too, because both sides are complicit, right.

Speaker 16 (01:08:17):
And they actually from what I heard, they just really
quickly because it was under COVID restrictions. They burned, you know,
cremated the body really fast so that no you know,
third party autopsies could be done. So it's on every level.
And then going back to what you said about the attorneys,
My first attorney, I called him at least forty times

(01:08:39):
from jail and I'm scared. I'm facing one hundred years.
My first plea offer was I think eight and a
half to ten years for pushing offense, and he wouldn't.
He didn't answer the phone once out of forty plus
times I saw him twice over thirteen months. Eventually had
to ask the court for a new attorney, and the
judge actully did grant it. But that's the kind of

(01:09:02):
reputation representation that's common place, facing over a century in jail, scared,
and he won't answer the phone.

Speaker 6 (01:09:10):
And yeah, hey, we are hearing that from every Jay
six er that's out there. They can't get in touch
with their with their lawyers. They don't they don't return calls,
they don't look at evidence that they've been asked to
look at. We got about a minute, James. I want
to ask you, if you just want to say anything
to the American people, ladies and gentlemen, make sure you
jot down his gifts and go and help him out.

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This is uh, this is a situation where we are
trying to now rebuild James got less than a minute.

Speaker 16 (01:09:39):
Okay, well giftsgo dot com slash James grants and I
am actually in the process of suing multiple media companies.
So your donation will not only help me get back
on my feet, but it's doing I mean, only donate
if you're okay with your money going against and destroying
fake news because they lied. You know, was acquitted to
five to non charges and on multiple sites they say

(01:10:02):
I was found guilty of this charge. So I've even
talked to some law firms and they said it's not
a matter of proving. We think we have that that
proving slander and defamation, but the statute of limitations are
running out and I've got to get this lawsuit in soon.
So you know, I'm looking for lawyers and I'm trying
to find them, and you know, it's been tough, really adjusting,

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like you to be.

Speaker 7 (01:10:24):
One of those lawyers in the future, though you got
to go back to law school. You obviously know what
you're talking about. At James Grant j six folks follow
him because his posters are very eye opening, and James,
I think that is one thing that we would love
for you to do because then you go back and
basically of right this wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:10:44):
James, Thank you brother. We got to go to break
Donald what and watching o'clock. Cowboy Logic will be back.

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Speaker 15 (01:12:05):
I'm Billy Cressman.

Speaker 8 (01:12:06):
I'm a political prisoner in MGC and glug and thank
you everybody for your support, and thank you Cowboy Lodger
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Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
Guys, Brother Billy Creston and home home at last.

Speaker 6 (01:12:23):
And we are hoping that in a very short time
all of our beloved Jay sixers will be home, reunited
with their families, starting to rebuild their lives after a
unconditional Hunter Biden like pardon that President Trump bestows on them.
But we've got somebody that is still locked up behind

(01:12:47):
bars for a ridiculous amount of time totally.

Speaker 7 (01:12:50):
That would be one Kenneth Thomas, and we're trying to
focus on how the families are totally devastated by this as.

Speaker 5 (01:12:58):
Well, and it's just so wrong.

Speaker 7 (01:13:00):
So let's bring on Carol and Thomas, Kenneth's wife and
mother of four. You went to with j six with
your teenage daughter and your husband. Welcome to Cowboy Logic
first of all, and please tell us your story.

Speaker 20 (01:13:16):
Well, we did go to January sixth the rally. My
husband's a peaceful man. We peacefully protested what we thought
was and stolen election. We protested my daughter and I.
We left early. My husband saw somebody being hurt.

Speaker 21 (01:13:37):
He was hit with.

Speaker 20 (01:13:40):
Stick by police officers and my husband is hearing heard
shouting over and over again, let him up.

Speaker 21 (01:13:45):
He did try to get him up and was able
to get him up.

Speaker 20 (01:13:48):
And a couple days later my husband released all the
footage as he never went in the building, never thought
he would be in trouble, and he has fifty eight
months in Tennis, Memphis, Tennessee FCI.

Speaker 7 (01:14:01):
Now you you left because you and your daughter were
guessed as well, so obviously for your safety, but what
really is so wrong in all of this is the
fact that, well, you're in a studio, okay, and your
husband was broadcasting live from that studio, So I would
assume because you were on the air, that he was
also targeted.

Speaker 5 (01:14:22):
So tell us about how many months later he was arrested.

Speaker 20 (01:14:26):
He was arrested in May of twenty twenty one. When
he was arrested, he was working. He was an electrical
engineer and he was out of town. They the FBI,
arrested him, broke down his door with flash grenades or
flash bombs, and arrested him like he was a terrorist.

(01:14:48):
We got a phone call around six thirty to seven
o'clock in the morning saying that he was arrested by
the US government.

Speaker 21 (01:14:54):
We were very lucky that we were.

Speaker 20 (01:14:56):
Able to get him home a few days later to
fight the at that he fought so hard for three
years until he was found guilty of seven charges, five
being felonies, and he was sentenced to fifty eight months
in prison.

Speaker 6 (01:15:13):
All right, let's let's put this, let's kind of unpack
this a little bit. So he was arrested while he
was out of town on business. They came to his
actual hotel and arrested him. They locked him up then
they bring him home to you where I'm assuming he
was in like home incarceration. I'm assuming that he was able.

Speaker 20 (01:15:36):
To travel short distances that were approved for work until
his work let him go because of the trial.

Speaker 3 (01:15:42):
Okay, how long he was? How long did that happen before?

Speaker 6 (01:15:47):
When did he actually end up going to sentencing in
the trial? Did he did he get locked up right
after sentencing or did he.

Speaker 21 (01:15:57):
A month after sentence?

Speaker 20 (01:15:58):
He was given thirty days to take care of his
obligations and then he was drove up to Memphis, Tennessee.
It will actually be a year in January. He's got
he's been in parsony.

Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
Okay, okay, all right. Was your husband a veteran yes? Yeah, okay,
all right? Are you a veteran yes?

Speaker 20 (01:16:19):
And our oldest son who is currently serving our country
in the United States Navy.

Speaker 6 (01:16:25):
Now, so we first of all thank all of you,
and I'm thanking you on behalf of our beloved viewing audience,
every single one of the one point five million people,
they all appreciate the fact that you and your family
have made have taken an oath that doesn't expire so

(01:16:47):
that the rest of us can live in liberty and
we appreciate you.

Speaker 7 (01:16:51):
For that, but it fits the bill. Unfortunately, it's almost predictable.
I think like something like seventy five percent of those
rested on January sixth were first responders, former military, police, firefighters.
And those are the people that aren't going to run
from the fleshbanks, just like on nine to eleven. Those
are the people that ran into those burning buildings to

(01:17:14):
try to stop things. But I mean, this is where
your nightmare when we talked to you mentioned this, the
nightmare just continues. First of all, you had a no
fly list, right and talk about some of the other
things that they threw at you.

Speaker 21 (01:17:29):
Well, you know there was that.

Speaker 20 (01:17:31):
When my husband was sentenced, I was let go from
my profession, so I no longer I currently can't.

Speaker 21 (01:17:38):
You don't work there.

Speaker 20 (01:17:39):
I've been lucky enough to find online work, but it's
not as it's not as lucrative as what our family
was used to. And the time that my dad has
gone or my husband's been gone, my father, who was
very influential in my husband's life and we took care of,
passed away. My husband's lost the chance to watch his

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first grandchild be brought into this world.

Speaker 21 (01:18:03):
Our granddaughter is five months old.

Speaker 20 (01:18:05):
My husband missed his daughter graduating from high school, our
oldest daughter. He's missed so much, and it's like life
is kind of frozen for us. Not to mention, we
have an eleven year old son who was ten when
his dad was put into prison, and he needs his
dad more than ever. I mean fifteen minute phone calls
that he divides up between his entire family a week,

(01:18:27):
our son talks to him for fifteen minutes. And being
a ten year old boy with no women in the house,
your brother or no men in the house, your brother
is in the military, your dad's in prison, and having
people at school find out why your dad's in prison.
It has just been it has been so hard and
so sobering to watch the narrative that's been spun about him.

Speaker 1 (01:18:49):
Too.

Speaker 20 (01:18:49):
The man that they say in the papers and in
the articles, isn't the man that I've been married to
for almost two decades.

Speaker 21 (01:18:56):
Isn't the man that we have this beautiful family together.
He's not that man.

Speaker 6 (01:19:03):
All right, We've got about three minutes before we have
to go to the break and ladies and gentlemen, we're
gonna have Carol and join us for the next segment
as well, but explain what everybody's singing on top of
the screen there. Sing for Freedom dot Us. Let everybody
know what that's all about.

Speaker 20 (01:19:21):
So my husband's always been a very honorable man and
done everything he can for everybody else.

Speaker 21 (01:19:26):
That's just his nature.

Speaker 20 (01:19:28):
And he started Sing for Freedom dot Us, which is
a website that promotes singing the national anthem every night
at nine pm and solidarity for the January sixth defendants
that were unjustly kept in prison. And he started that movement.
He also did a podcast for called Slice of Pie

(01:19:48):
where he would promote sing for Freedom and how wonderful
it made the people that were stuck in jail, how
connected and wonderful it made them.

Speaker 21 (01:19:57):
Feel to know that people out here were still pulling
for them.

Speaker 20 (01:20:01):
So my husband's website not only has his story, but
so many other January sixth stories or links to their
stories that can get out there and really understand that
the narrative that's been spent on so many of these
people is so wrong.

Speaker 21 (01:20:16):
They're not who they were portrayed to be now, and.

Speaker 6 (01:20:19):
There are ways that our beloved viewers can go to
Sing for Freedom dot Us. They can actually help contribute
toward monetary purposes for.

Speaker 3 (01:20:30):
Numerous J sixers right absolutely, and.

Speaker 20 (01:20:35):
With Christmas coming up especially, there's not only my family,
but so many other families out there that nothing can
bring our husbands back, or our children back, or our
wives back, but any of our loved ones back from
prison right now until Trump gets in office. But it
can't help give kids a good day, give them a

(01:20:56):
good day and make it a little easier that they're
separated from the people they love.

Speaker 21 (01:21:01):
It can help in so many different ways.

Speaker 20 (01:21:03):
Not only that, but there are people that are struggling
with child costs while their loved ones are out, or
people who just got out who can't find work because
of their record. Now things like that they stood up
for us, for our country when we needed them.

Speaker 3 (01:21:17):
Can see.

Speaker 6 (01:21:17):
Yeah, even the collateral damage, ladies and gentlemen, is unspeakable.
It's for many of us. We can't even wrap our
heads around it. This has destroyed families. It's broken families up.
A hat tip to you for the strength that it
takes for this to have not broken your family up,

(01:21:42):
because you're well aware of many of these J six
families that are fragmented. Divorces take place children disown their
their fathers, and you know, the people that are inside
the Beltway don't get it. They can't relate to the

(01:22:03):
pain and the destruction that this has caused your entire
family and probably friends and relatives of your family, because
all they ever do is talk about you know, we've
now arrested nine hundred, We've now arrested a thousand, We've
now arrested.

Speaker 3 (01:22:21):
Twelve hundred, now sixteen hundred. That's all they care about,
the numbers.

Speaker 6 (01:22:27):
They just care about that these people are soulless ladies
and gentlemen. We're going to continue with Carolyn when we
get back from the break, and we're going to find
out a little bit more about how you can help
this family out and what it's actually done to the children.

Speaker 3 (01:22:45):
On Cowboy Logical, we're coming right back.

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Welcome back to Cowboy Logic. Everybody. We've got TJ.

Speaker 6 (01:24:24):
Henderson, Logan's mom in the barn with us tonight. And
you know, before we went to break, I talked about
the fact that your husband was there. It was an
unwavering commitment to you. You guys have been married thirty
plus years from what I understand, and I would say

(01:24:44):
also that we could add Mike to the married up
Guys club like I'm a member of because he probably
married up with you.

Speaker 3 (01:24:52):
I can go ahead. I haven't seen Mike, ben I'm
gonna say that he probably married.

Speaker 6 (01:24:56):
Up, but talk very briefly about what it took for
Mike to stand with you through all of this.

Speaker 18 (01:25:06):
Oh my goodness, that's a difficult one because I'm not
in his shoes, and I know there was times it
was so hard when I would be on the floorboard
of a pickup in a PTSD state and neither one
of us had any idea why I was having a reaction,
or why I would be in the middle of the
kitchen floor crying and have no idea why I was crying.

(01:25:29):
It was utterly bewildering to his tender heart. But he
did the work. He would talk with me with the
Christian psychologists. We would talk about the future, we would
talk about what the possibilities were of me healing and
getting free, and every step of the way. He might
have been utterly bewildered, but he was willing to step in.

(01:25:51):
He was willing to pray, and he was willing to
do the work well.

Speaker 3 (01:25:54):
And as your body was purging this.

Speaker 6 (01:25:59):
Set tanic, this demonic, this evil that was residing inside
of you. You actually had physical things that were going
on during this purging that would trigger a memory for
you that you hadn't had before. For example, your foot
started giving your trouble. One day, you were working out

(01:26:20):
on the farm and all of a sudden you couldn't walk,
and it triggered a memory of electrocution.

Speaker 18 (01:26:25):
Wow, it did, and it was the part of my story.
I haven't talked about a lot. That's not in the book.
It'll be in the next book, but that's the mind
control part of my story. And that moment of being
electrocuted as a child was part of erasing my memory, which,
like I stated, I didn't start having again until twenty eighteen.

(01:26:48):
So yeah, I can have random things that pop up.
Our bodies are incredible. They evil might try to erase
our memory, might try to take our mind away, but
our have this incredible ability to remember. There's an amazing
book called The Body Keeps the Score, and that's absolutely
what my body has done.

Speaker 7 (01:27:09):
Well, you know your husband and your family, like like
your your baseball cap says you're blessed.

Speaker 6 (01:27:16):
True, Well you are blessed, and I want to give
you an opportunity to do something that I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 (01:27:22):
We may have done this on the show, we may have.

Speaker 6 (01:27:24):
Had a guest do this before, but you specifically ask
us if we would allow you to pray over our
viewing audience. And the last thing I want to do
is go to break with you in the middle of
a prayer. So I want to get that, get that,
and to get to that right now. I'm going to

(01:27:44):
leave this to you and TJ pray.

Speaker 3 (01:27:47):
To our viewing audience, pray over our viewing audience. I'll
remove my hat.

Speaker 18 (01:27:56):
Lord Jesus, you and I have walked through many many
waters together. I know you in a way that a
lot of people don't know you, and that is the
blessing of my story. And we've had many conversations, Lord
about how many hurting people there are out in our country,

(01:28:21):
people listening right now, who have been ravaged their hearts,
their homes, their families, their health, their finances have been
ravaged by this very dark agenda that has been craftily
hiding under the surface of this country for fifty years
or more. Lord Jesus, I ask you to touch each

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and every person right now, right where they are, to
open their hearts, open their eyes, open their minds to
who you really are. You're not a distant god that
we can maybe feel your presence at church once in
a while. No, you want to engage our everyday life.

(01:29:08):
And the phone call was perfect proof of that. It
was evidence, King is Shua, that you are the King
of kings, You are the Lord of Lord. And through
a little boy's voice, you met people in their cars
at home, moms taking care of their children, parents that

(01:29:31):
were grieving. Oh my goodness, the letters we got, Lord
of people that were touched by the call. I know
you want to continue to do the same thing. So Father,
I lift up each and every person's heart listening. I
lift up their families, their finances, their health. Lord, And

(01:29:54):
in twenty twenty five, I ask you to do above
and beyond, just like you did for this family. And
this family is living proof of what you can do.
I pray that you touch them like you have touched us,
that you heal them, you dust them off, you set
them on their feet, and you bless them Lord with truth,

(01:30:14):
with healing, with miracle, signs and wonders, just like you
did in the in the Bible. You still do now,
and I ask it all in Jesus' name.

Speaker 3 (01:30:26):
Amen. Amen, nice job preacher.

Speaker 5 (01:30:29):
That was beautiful now, you know, just real quick though.

Speaker 7 (01:30:32):
I don't think people realize in two thousand and seven
the internet was not all that you know available, right, and.

Speaker 3 (01:30:38):
Six million people plot well that was that was the
first hit. That was the first hit.

Speaker 5 (01:30:44):
Have heard Logan's call.

Speaker 3 (01:30:45):
All right, we've got about five minutes left. Uh TJ.

Speaker 6 (01:30:51):
I said it before. Our viewing audience are action oriented people.
First thing they're going to do is they're going to
go to TJ. Henderson dot com and they are going
to buy this book or I will come after them.
The second thing that we need them to do is
educate them on what to look for in their own family,

(01:31:14):
in their own neighborhood, in their own school system, because
quite frankly, if you and I would have grown up together,
I would have thought, hey, you're just another barrel racing girl.

Speaker 3 (01:31:25):
Okay, tell me what they need to look for.

Speaker 6 (01:31:30):
What do we look for in our own orbit to
find somebody that has the level of.

Speaker 3 (01:31:36):
Darkness that you've had to endure your entire life.

Speaker 18 (01:31:43):
The first thing that people can do is to be
intentional to address their own unawareness because the enemy has
been craftily at work in this nation to hoodwink people
and people their awareness of what's going on around them
has been taken away at times and diminished. So that's

(01:32:05):
the first thing people can do is to educate themselves
to become more aware of what has been going on.
It's a tough question, don because these things can be
craftily buried. I was a high achieving student. I was
an athlete. I had won multiple state awards in high

(01:32:27):
school rodeo, so I was achieving over at the top.
But if people really paid attention, they would have noticed.
I was emotional at times. I would cry at the
drop of a hat. I had an eating disorder. I
was did not have secure attachment to my parents, nor

(01:32:51):
really to anybody around me. Relationship was challenging, Communicating was challenging.
So you know, you get the children that look neglected,
but then you have ones like me who looked like
they were doing they were taken care of, they were excelling.

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But you got to stop and pay attention. And if
you stop and look into children's eyes.

Speaker 3 (01:33:19):
They will tell you, yeah, you know, you got to
put your phones down.

Speaker 7 (01:33:24):
And look in their eyes, but with nothing else, you know,
as far as the open borders, and it's not even
the borders in your case, you know it was different.

Speaker 21 (01:33:32):
It was local.

Speaker 7 (01:33:33):
But we have three hundred and eighty thousand children missing
in this country now, and you know your story's one
part of it. But the thing is, I think so
many people's eyes are being open now and hopefully with
this new administration, we can put in to this nightmare.

Speaker 6 (01:33:49):
Yes, that's the last place that I want to go,
because we got less than two many unfortunately. Look into
your little crystal ball there, and what do you think
is going to go down in twenty five because the
darkness is going to be revealed and it's going to
be traumatic. I think when we all see this, your
thoughts on that we only got a minute?

Speaker 18 (01:34:12):
Well, first of all, I don't use a crystal ball.

Speaker 3 (01:34:16):
I'm glad you caught that.

Speaker 18 (01:34:20):
And God has given me lots of encouragement about twenty
twenty five that there's going to be a lot of
darkness come to light. The church needs to be prepared
for what's coming. They need to study up on stories
like mine and how to help people get free and

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be ready to put on your spiritual armor and take
up the stord of the spirit, which is the Word
of God.

Speaker 6 (01:34:47):
And I would like to suggest also have your pastor,
have your preacher, have your minister reach out to TJ.
She can help them understand how to correct this within
the church.

Speaker 3 (01:35:01):
Big time. What were you going to say?

Speaker 7 (01:35:03):
I was just going to say, as a joke when
we were talking off air, because Logan did some rodeoing
as well, Don wanted to know if we had all
ten digits still into.

Speaker 6 (01:35:12):
Yeas he still got all ten digits in tech because
rovers tend to be short a few he does.

Speaker 1 (01:35:20):
As much.

Speaker 3 (01:35:22):
TJ. We appreciate you taking the time to join us.

Speaker 6 (01:35:25):
Thank you for talking about things that are obviously very
painful but at the same time very joyful.

Speaker 3 (01:35:31):
Ladies and gentlemen. You've been seeing that website go across
the screen the entire time. This is the book.

Speaker 6 (01:35:37):
That's the lady, that's Logan's mom, and you can find
out anything you need to know, and you can put
your preachers in touch with her at TJ Henderson dot com.

Speaker 3 (01:35:47):
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