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January 11, 2026 48 mins

SEGMENT 1: FENTANYL AND ITS CONSEQUENCES 

SEGMENT 2: BRINGING ATTENTION TO AN EPIDEMIC SWEEPING THE NATION 

SEGMENT 3: WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON JANUARY 6TH?

SEGMENT 4: WHAT FAITH TEACHES US ABOUT PERSEVERANCE

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Perhaps you were born for such a time as this.
Hello everyone, and welcome to Faith and Freedom. I'm Shamaine Nugent.
I've known him for twenty five years. He's a journalist,
a truth teller, and still one of the good ones.
Steve Gruber is the host of America's Voice Live and
the Steve Gruber Show right here on Real America's Voice,

(00:27):
and he joins me live right now.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Welcome Steve Jamaine.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Good afternoon, Nice to see you.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Good to see you too.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
So my question for you is how does a nice
guy like you end up in a place like this.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
You and I go way back, like over thirty years.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Right, Yeah, we've been on the same networks a few
different times now, going back to the hunting and outdoor
stuff that we all did together, and you know, Ted
and I and you as well, harassing wildlife all over
the planet. So yeah, we've done this a lot. And look,
Real America's Voice. What the SIGs did here is brilliant
and they gave it an opportunity for real Americans to

(01:04):
be heard, not the garbage mainstream media. And so obviously
we all gravitate to that. You me, Ted, It only
makes sense we would come to a place where we're
allowed to speak our mind without being censored, without being marginalized.
I think it's great and I'm glad to be here.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Speaking of telling the truth, and that's what you do
so well on your shows.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
I want to hear.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
About something that you've been on comfort uncovering lately and
the rest of the media has really dropped the ball on,
and that is fentanyl. Because this isn't just some sort
of drug story. It's hitting families, it's everyday, normal families.
Walk me through what you're seeing in regards to that.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Well, one of the most startling stories that I've uncovered
so far right here in Michigan is a little town
called Rapid River. It's just north of escanav In the
up right three hundred and thirty five people. They've buried
five of their own in the last year. Their own
that they've buried from Fentyl in a year. A little
town right next road is called Nama. It has twenty
five total souls. They're one of those killed by Fentyl.

(02:08):
You look at this Traverse City, Michigan. Everybody knows Trafford City.
Eight people died there in a month. So while the
people on the left are out there skiming about, Oh,
you can't blow up these drug boats. You know, it's
just cocaine, chamain, it's just weed or whatever they're saying.
Look a friend of mine, good guy, fishing guy, the
guy that Ivy and I've gotten to know pretty well
over the last couple of years, fishing with him and
getting to know him. His son, nineteen year old college

(02:30):
kid died last year. What do you do? Went out
on a weekend, took a couple of hits off a joint,
you know, college kid thing, it's lays with fentyl. He dies.
I mean, these are the kind of real stories that
impact families. If you're in a town of three hundred
and thirty five people, Rapid River, Michigan. It's not exactly
the crossroads of a major city or anything else. It's
two thousand miles from the border, and people are dying

(02:52):
and it's just it's a terrible, gut wrenching thing, and
it's just an awful story. But the problem is what
people are telling. And I appreciate you saying this. You
had to put a human face on this. You know,
it's Christmas. How many people are not going to have
Christmas today with a loved one or two. There's a
story out of Birmingham. A woman lost two sons one
day and a third girl there seventeen, twenty and twenty

(03:16):
two all died because they got laced with fenel. They
didn't know, they thought they were taking something else, bambit
and they're dead. Look you talk to these parents, these
angel moms and dads as they call themselves, that are
burying their sons, their daughters, their friends, their neighbors, and
they will tell you they don't care about the boats
getting blown out of the water that are delivering drugs.

(03:40):
And look, you fished once or twice. I fished once
or twice, might have been on a charter boat here there.
I've never seen a charter boat with five matching four
hundred horse MRK cruisers across the back with fifty five
gallon drums. That's no fishing boat I've ever seen. All right,
let's just be clear about that. So we have to
put a human face on this because those on the
left are ignoring the true tragedy. It's an American traged

(04:00):
and in fact, I would go step further, I'd say
it's an act of war. These chemicals start in China.
They're usually combined in places like Venezuela and Mexico, and
then it shipped over the border. However, it gets here
and it's sprinkled into to the other street drugs to
make them even more addictive. Except the guys that are
doing it, they're not real scientific about it. Oh just
throw a little bit in there, and what happens is

(04:21):
another guy like my friend's nineteen year old son, good
kid in college, isn't here with us anymore. In fact,
here's here's why I put it. Before the stroke of
midnight today, several more people die in Michigan. Two hundred
and twenty five will die across this country before the
stroke of midnight tonight from overdoses related to this illegal
illicit drugs. I mean, it's a horrible tragedy. You know

(04:44):
the faces of Fennel that you see there, Pay attention.
These are real families that are going through real pain.
And it's really a story that needs to be told.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
And it's so tragic. And here's what I don't get, Steve.
You got kids dying in suburbs and small towns everywhere,
but there's still this perception that it's somebody else's problem.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
How do you break through that? And what can you.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Share with moms and dads and young people today that
are watching this.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Look, I pounded into my I have a thirteen year
old son right he's here with me a little getaway
here during the Christmas holiday season, and got one of
my nephews with me. He's also thirteen. I pounded into
these kids every day. But you can only do so much.
You tell them, Look, you deviate once, you screw out once,
it can be the last time you scre on forever.
Don't do that to your mother, is what I say.
Don't do that to your father. Look, there are people

(05:38):
at other priorities all wrong, and that's criminals that are
in and out of jail. You know, you see these
stories too. You know the guy's been arrested fifty times
and he punches some elderly woman on the side of
the head. Because you have a criminal justice system that's
failing Americans. You've got the border that was opened under
the bodyministration for years, this stuff just flowed in. Look,
these cartels were cashing in on the misery of Americans

(06:01):
feeding this addiction. And they'll say, well, you couldn't do
this without customers, but you create customers. And so I
think this administration is going in the right direction. Closing
the border, cracking down, stopping these narco terrorist boats. I
think that I agree with that, and I have yet
to meet an angel, mom or dad that says that's
the wrong thing to do. In fact, they said, hell, yeah,
I'm all for it, as they should be. But is

(06:23):
there a solution. We're working on it. You got to
tighten it down. Look, declaring fentanyl a weapon of mass
destruction step in the right direction. I think.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
I wonder why, Steve, why do you think that the media,
mainstream media isn't talking about this at all and we're
not seeing the real human costs for every single life
and every single family on mainstream media.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Well, well, think about this. Well, first of all, they're complicit.
To answer your question, they stood there slack jawed and
glassy eyed while the border remained open. They told us, oh,
nothing you can do without immigration reform. Obviously that's not true.
Crossings are down ninety seven percent. So you see, there's
an absolute fare of the media is complicit, and they've
been complicit and overlooking the fact that these people are

(07:10):
on a revolving door when it comes to crimes that
they commit. I mean, you look what was having in Washington,
d C. Since Stormtup rolled out the National Guard. Homicides
are at a forty year low. Carjackings are down seventy
five percent, sexual assaults down thirty five percent. The fact
of the matter is if you step in and do
your job, then you're going to save people's lives. You
live in Texas, right, So we saw during the border

(07:34):
invasion during the Biden years, not only did they just
leave the border open, they reopened it. When the State
of Texas put down razor wire at the river, the
front end loaders came in and pushed that raiz why
out of the way and lifted up some people could flooded.
We don't know who these people were. They're unvetted, they're unchecked,
and then they're unleashed on America. Another big problem, a
lot of those folks were drug mules. I mean, yes,

(07:56):
step one was closing the border. But you talk about
the fatality, think about this, Every ten days, an equal
number of people to have overdose in this country as
we have nine to eleven excuse me, not eleven every
ten days, Every eight months of as many people that
has died in the Vietnam War dying from this overdose

(08:17):
from this poison. And so the media, look, they were
the propaganda arm for the Democrats and the open border.
Now it's not that big a deal. Oh, you're xenophobic. No,
I'm not xenophobic, I can assure you. But I am
opposed to people that don't follow the laws. I have
opposed people that come here and pass out poison to

(08:37):
our kids. And it's not just kids, by the way.
I've heard of a guy today was in his sixties.
Thought he was taking anaxy coodone pill. Nope, laced with fentanyl.
Done right there. This is a this is an epidemic
of poison killing our folks here in America, and it's
being stopped. But there's a lot of work to be done.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
You know, it's stavid almost seems like it's intentional.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
It does. You know, Look, I said, it's an active
war if China is creating the components and then selling
them to Mexico. Of the eight drug cartels that Donald
Trump said are foreign terrorist organizations, two were in Venezuela,
six were in Mexico. And you've got Claudia Shinbaum there,
the president of Mexico saying, we will never allow America
to come in here and you know, reach our sovereignty.

(09:24):
Blah blah blah. Look clean up your act in Mexico.
Now they've arrested almost forty thousand people since Donald Trump
said you need to get this cleaned up or something
bad's gonna happen. We know where their networks are, we
know where the drug factories are, we know where their
rat lines are, where they're moving drugs. We've got these things,
I think they're called predator drones. Pretty effective piece of

(09:45):
equipment for neutralizing terrorists. And if these are truly terrorist organizations,
which I believe they are, when you're killing that many people,
and you're killing one hundred thousand Americans or more, fetnol
plus or the other street drugs plus the other things
to get in oxycodon, whatever it is that are fake
pills being and you know, created illegally in other countries
and brought here, there's a lot we can do. I'm

(10:08):
the media is complicit. The Democrats are complicit. And you
listen to these clowns now, I mean they'll lie about anything, Chamaine.
I mean Bill Clinton's all over the Epstein files. Well, yeah,
but we don't really know the context of that. Give
me a break. I mean, come on, these guys have
been trying to get Donald Trump on garbage charges for
years and here's Bill Clinton in a hot tub, half
dressed young women with Jeffrey Epstein. Oh yeah, that doesn't

(10:29):
mean anything.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Really, You've got We've got a lot more to talk about, Steve,
We got a lot more to talk about this. Sorry
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Speaker 4 (11:26):
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Speaker 2 (11:33):
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Speaker 2 (11:47):
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Speaker 1 (11:54):
We're back with longtime friend and fellow journalist right here
in real America's voice, Steve Kruber.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Steve, welcome back.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Good to be here.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
We were just getting started. You're a journalist, you do radio,
you do TV. What made you say, look at this
problem of fentanyl affecting our families and go I want
to make a documentary about it.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Well, you know it was my friend last year, my
friend Kevin, who lost his nineteen year old son. And
you say, wait a second, and I'm seeing all these people,
you know, scream a war crime or whatever, because we're
blowing these drug delivery boats out of the water. Look,
we need to hold these people accountable. And so that's
why I started digging into it, and I started finding
places like Rapid River, Michigan. It's lost five people out

(12:37):
of a town of three hundred and thirty five. I mean,
you think that does have impact. So I started talking
to people up there. It's on Little Baya Knock. You know,
anybody who's ever a fish walleye in their life or
small mouth knows where that is. Sportsmen flocked to this
part of the state of Michigan for the great fishing
and so forth, and these towns are just devastated. And
I have support groups there and they're all working together
to try to get each other through it. And so

(12:59):
it's incredibly important in moving stories, you know. And I
think that we don't put a human face on it enough.
When you think that the same number of people that
died in nine to eleven die every ten days from
this poison. It's a story that has to be told.
So and I don't just want to give the the
horror stories of it, and I don't just want to
give the stories that are angel moms and dads. I

(13:20):
want to talk about what we can do to do better?
You know, what can we do to make it better?
Because there is hope here. I had a woman on
today on the program here in real America's voice, who
lost her son two years ago. He was thirty four
years old, good guy working, had a job, took one
oxy cootone pill laced bam. And that's it. And that's

(13:42):
what's driving me to do this story. So we do
have thank you for mentioning that we have a documentary
and development. We've got the preliminary green light, and we're
going to go find these stories not just of loss,
but of hope and how communities come together. I mean,
that's small town of America, Chamaine. You've lived there. I've
lived there my entire life. We come together and they

(14:02):
hold each other together when they're just well, they feel
like they can just fall apart. I mean, just the
devastating loss of a child, unimaginable amounts of pain when
it was completely avoidable. Again, how many people did we
lose because we left that border open right that was
unnecessary and preventable. I mean that haunts me. I can

(14:23):
only imagine what it does to parents that have lost children.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
You know, you talk about small town and people coming together.
Ephesians six twelve through eighteen talks about you know, we
don't wrestle against flesh and blood, but mainstream media would
have you think that we are This is not who
we are. We come together as families and we help
each other. But I want to find out a little
bit more about your investigative process to discover what's who's

(14:49):
really behind this. I would think that if you have somebody,
your friend's son, who was smoking a joint that was
laced with fentanyl, where did that joint come from? Who
got it, how'd they get it, who supplied them? And
can't we go after those bad guys?

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Same question I asked the woman that was on with
me this morning from Traverse City, Michigan, who lost your
son two years ago? I said, what happened to the
drug dealer? She says, in the wind, you don't know
it because they just you know, they're out there in
the mix, and you don't know who it came from.
And after they he'd been dead for a day or
two before they found him in his house, you don't
know where'd the joint come from. You're on a college campus.

(15:28):
People come, people go, product passes hands, six, eight, ten times.
Who knows how much right it gets passed around, mood around,
and then there's the problem nobody's held accountable. So I
would suggest that maybe it'd be a good idea in
twenty twenty six on the to do list. If you're
a dealer and you deal fentanyl and there's a fatality
that results from that, the penalties have to be stiff,

(15:49):
maybe even a life sentence if you. I mean, that's
that's willful disregard for human life. It's manslaughter at the minimum.
I would say manslaughter because it's human a willful disregard
for human life. And maybe there should be an executive
order on that. Maybe you could finally find some Democrats
to get on board with the Republicans and have a
bipartisan solution to holding these drug dealers accountable for what

(16:13):
they've done to this country, and that is kill I mean,
over the last ten years, that's a million people or
more that have died in this country because of this poison.
And so I think we have to hold these people
far more accountable. We have to have an education system
that's far better. Look, that's how silly it is. She mean,
I have a gentleman that comes on this program regularly
with me, Scott King. Here's all he does. He gets

(16:36):
fentanyl or not federal, he gets Narcan, and he gets
people to give him donations so he can buy narcan
to give it away for free. I carry Narcan in
my truck, not because any of my family uses any
of these drugs. But you never know anymore. She mean,
you could be at the shopping center, you could be
at your kid's school. You can be driving down the
street and there's somebody having a fatal overdose, and if

(16:58):
you got the narcan with you make it available. I
think narcan should be free across this country. Is it
a solution. No, But maybe we'd lose less people, Maybe
you'd bury less people. Maybe I have a chance to
fight back a little bit if you get these people
cleaned up.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Do you think that we should go as far as
making marijuana illegal? And you know, in Colorado, I've never agreed.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
You know, I have never agreed with marijuana being legal.
All right, I'll just say that in Michigan it's legal.
It's there's a weed shop on every corner here in Michigan.
Now they legalize it.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
I know I smell it when we're driving by. We
live part time in Michigan, and I feel sorry for
the neighbors that have to live next to that.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
I wouldn't want to. Ted kind of likes the smell.
But whatever.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
You drive down I ninety six, the fastest piece of
highway in America, by the way, you drive down I
ninety six doing eighty ninety miles an hour legally for
the most part, and you can smell weed wafting into
the cars you're going down the expressway. How much weed
is being pounded in some vehicle in front of you.
The smell it going down the highway at that speed,
and you're right, you smell it everywhere. And what we've
done is we've normalized it and said, oh kids, it's fine.

(18:09):
It's no different than I alcohol. Marijuana today is many
times more powerful than it was when I was, you know,
fifteen years old or whatever, right back when I was
in middle school or high school or college. It is
so much more powerful. It's psychoactive. It has a negative
impact on adolescent brains. It's well documented. Now do I
agree with Donald Trump saying let's delist it down from

(18:31):
a class one to a class three so we can
study it. Yeah, because if somebody has cancer and they
can't eat, I got no problem with that. If something
has a medical issue where the marijuana or the CBD
buy product or whatever can help them, no problem with that.
But just making recreational legal, recreational marijuana legal, I've never agreed.
But decriminalizing I can live with that to a point.

(18:52):
But no, I've never thought it should be fully legal.
I know what it's like. In Colorado, the first state
that brought it in and fully legalized it, their homeless
population exploded, number of car accidents went up. I mean,
you can run all the stats. It's all there skiing.
They don't want to talk about it.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
When I go skiing in Colorado, I mean I have
to tell. When I'm riding up the gondola and I'm
riding up with a bunch of young people and they're
smoking pot, I have to say something, Look, I don't
want to smoke or I don't want to ski high.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Can you stop that?

Speaker 1 (19:21):
It's so prevalent in those areas where it is legalized.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
I do think something needs to happen.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
I don't know what, but I want to get back
to your documentary just before we go, How are you
going to find these people, because I would imagine that
not everybody wants to talk about it. I mean especially
you know, you've got kids who are going to colleges
and universities, or folks probably make a lot of money
and they probably don't want to talk about it. But

(19:48):
how do you find these people?

Speaker 3 (19:50):
You know, it's interesting you say that because the woman
that was on with me this morning, the mom from
Traverse City who buried her son, said the problem is
not enough people talk about it. She goes, I don't care.
I'm going to talk about it. She goes. People are
worried about the stigma. She says, I'm worried about the
next kid that's going to die. So it does take
some courage. It takes some courage to step up and say, yeah,
my kid died of fentanyl and it breaks my heart.
But let me tell you my story so it won't

(20:12):
be your story. So I've already found Rapid River, Escanaba,
Nama right there, little Betaak, Traverse City. I've identified a
bunch of people. I've identified people outside of Fort Wayne, Indiana,
Bluffed in Indiana, small town again, back you back, Eddy Town,
pretty cool place. I found some people outside of Columbus, Ohio.
The fact of the matter is, once you start doing this,

(20:35):
the story starts to show themselves, and you'll find the
people that want to talk, and you'll find those that don't.
And I respect that. I respect their privacy. But in
order to save people, you got to step up and say, look,
this is what's happening. We're losing over one hundred thousand
people a year to this poison. And they talk about
democrats twist this. Well, you know, the life expectancy in
America is coming down. That's because the number one killer

(20:57):
of people eighteen to forty eight in this country, I
think is the section is driving down our life expectancy.
If you lose one hundred thousand people that are under
fifty years of age, it drives down to the life
expectancy numbers in a country. I mean, the math is
the math, and so look, we can find these people.

(21:19):
I've already found a bunch of them. The series is
called Steve Gribber's Forgotten America, a series that I did
a few episodes a number of years ago. But that's
the banner we're going to launch this under and hopefully
other stories. I mean, this isn't the only story of
forgotten America. I mean, and that's who Donald Trump appealed to,
the people that thought they were forgotten, ignored, left out,
you know, made fun of for being, you know, people

(21:43):
that believed in God, country, faith, Christmas. You know, these
are the people that have been marginalizing this country. And
that's what resonated with a majority of Trump voters, with
the people that thought that nobody cared what they thought
until he came along. And I think that there is
a change, a sea change attitude.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Now, where are people going to be able to watch
this and how can they get involved? Follow you, follow
your journey and reporting about this.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
Well, we're just going to get into development, so I
don't know where probably end up here in real America's voice.
We'll see how that plays out. But it's in development.
Don't have a home for it yet, but they can
always send me an email. Then go to Stevegruber dot com.
Send me an email, tell me your personal story, tell
me what you know about this drug. Maybe you were
a user, maybe you weren't, Maybe you know somebody who died.
That's one thing, And of course on social media at

(22:30):
Steve Grober's show, on acts and Facebook and all the
normal usual suspects. You can find me there. But I
look forward to your stories. Folks. If you're watching this program,
you've got a story, share it with me again, Steve
Gerber dot com send me an email. We want to
dig deeper. We want to tell the real story. Put
a real face to it, a real American face to it,
so people can relate.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
And Steve, when is your show available here on Real
America's Voice.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
How can people follow you?

Speaker 3 (22:57):
Twice a day every day six am, I start the
podcast Hey here in Real America's Voice with the Steve
Rivers Show, and then three to four every afternoon of
America's Voice Live. And in between that I do two
three hours of radio. And you know, they ride me
like a rented mule around here. It's okay. I'm used
to it, ride me like a rented mule. I'm telling
you it's good. Though. I love my job I do.

(23:18):
I love what we do here and doing stories like
this is it's my passion. It is.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Steve, thank you so much for joining me. God bless you.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
Jamaine. Always good to see you. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Don't go away, We'll be right back.

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Speaker 2 (25:13):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Terry Newsom is a citizen journalist and hosts a podcast
called Behind Enemy Lines. He's a guy who's been on
the trenches, in the trenches on some of the biggest
stories that the mainstream media is not.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Going to touch. Terry Newsom joins me.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
Now, Terry, welcome, Hello, Thanks for having me back absolutely anytime.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
So you were there.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
I want to get into a couple of things with you.
You were there on January sixth, Before we get in
to anything else, just set the scene. What happened, What
did you actually see?

Speaker 5 (25:47):
Yeah, you know, one of my friends really really pushed
me to go. He was just retired as a police officer.
So we drove and got there at the last minute.
And we went there with two intentions. One to see
our president speak, and then two because I saw what
happened in November and December right and how people were
attacked by Antifa on the left, and we wanted to

(26:07):
make sure you know, even though we're old guys, we're
in our sixties, to do our best to make sure that,
you know, families and people weren't attacked by Antifa like
they previously were. There was no intent of a uh
you know, I didn't even know about to go to
the Capitol until the morning of so we had no
intent on this insurrection at all. The way we were dressed,
the way we were dressed to protect us. You know,

(26:30):
four guys got stabbed in December by BLM soup cans.
I was told about all the horror stories of what
Antifa does, and that's why all those people were dressed
the way we were dressed, not to fight or going
to the Capitol at all. So we got there. We
got into the Marriott about one o'clock in the morning,

(26:50):
and sure enough Antifa guys drove by and yelled and
screamed they were going to break the windows on every
car in that parking lot. Fast forward to January seventh,
they did what they did. We moved to a different
parking lot, so they were there, and so we met
in the morning at six o'clock with guys from the
Chicago Illinois Proud Boys. There was three percenters, so we

(27:13):
walked with them to see Trump speak, and you know,
true fashion. These elderly ladies said, can we walk with
you over there? She's like, I'm like, yeah, of course
you can't. She just thank you so much, and that
made me feel good because that, you know, people shouldn't
feel like that, right, I mean.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
I mean this is this is the United States of America.
We should be able to walk the streets if you're
young or older, no matter what race. I want to
jump forward just a little bit because we're pressed on time.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
We're years out.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Now, we're years out, and people still have no idea
what happened. They look at mainstream media and that fiasco.
What's the biggest lie that's being pushed right now?

Speaker 5 (27:55):
Well, birds and foremost, there was no plan insurrection or
coordinated attack, hands down, Now we see that there's been.
I think what they say about two hundred and twenty
five FBI either agents or confidential informants absolutely knew that
from the minute we got there, right because we were
right behind Rey Apps, Me and my buddy. Oh there

(28:15):
you go, here's an FBI informant again.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Whatever whatever happened to Ray Apps?

Speaker 5 (28:21):
Right right, that's another example of what was going on
in a major conspiracy behind the scenes by the Biden administration.
You know, we as we walked up to the to
the Capitol, we were right behind him. We went, you know,
we were flying, had a camera in a flag pole.
I didn't yell, I didn't scream, I didn't touch anything.
I didn't go in the capitol. We left at the

(28:42):
last line when there was fighting between the officers and
the protesters. And then that video you show was on
the way out when Jacob Chansley walked by yelling freedom
and that guy that was fully covered, that guy with
the megaphone was covered from head to toe. And I
knew right away and when I filmed him, and afterwards,

(29:03):
I'm like, that's weird. That guy standing there by himself,
right there, and he's screaming at approaching Trump folks. Take
a picture, show the world. At one point thirty one,
these people were walking towards the Capitol. No one entered
the Capitol until about two oh five, I think. And
we were walking out from the capitol. Why was that
guy standing alone had his hair covered, wrapped with a

(29:25):
scarf of a hat, ear muffs, gloves. We couldn't see
his anything with color of his hair or anything. He
was there on purpose. You don't go there and do
that alone and scream into a megaphone telling people take pictures,
show the world what happened with those pictures? Right? How
many people got arrested? Lots of people got arrested because
of that. And you know what's interesting is, you know,

(29:47):
not in my sixties, and I haven't gotten any trouble
in thirty five years. And I ran a police foroy
out myself. I'm sorry, FBI foy in May. They had
three hundred and forty six pages on me, the FBI.
They said it's going to take four years to get
my boys back to me. Why this is under the
Trump administration? You know, I was subsequently put on a

(30:07):
domestic terrorists watch list. We saw that the Southern Poverty
Law Center they were investigating through Congress. Last week. Well,
an Antifa member for the Southern Poverty Law Center wrote
a story from Chicago, and then they started tagging the
FBI saying that I tried to overthrow the government. When
we asked mister Newson that no answer. They never even

(30:27):
talked to me. So after that story, after the Southern
Poverty Law Center and the antif guys started tagging the FBI.
Ten days later, I was suddenly on a domestic terrorists
watch list.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
And you know, the narrative got set right away, like
within hours. Who was driving? That's what's behind that. And
you know the American people are were just exhausted and
we want accountability. We want to see some accountability over this.

Speaker 5 (30:56):
They have to do that, right. I mean, I'm lucky.
You know that BI showed up to my house a
few years ago, Charmaine. I thought I was going to jail.
I didn't even go in, but I saw the horror stories.
They actually came because Antifa was threatened my life. That's
a whole different story. And then they go, oh, by
the way, we know you were at January sixth. Did
you go in? Did you hit any officers? Did you
destroy property? I go, guys, it's been two years. I

(31:18):
thought you were here for something else. He is, we
had to ask you. I go, I'm assuming you know
where everybody was. I had my phone. My friend had
his phone. He was a cook County sheriff. He had
his cookout of sheriff had on he just retired. You know,
we had no until we left. He goes, yeah, we
know that. We just wanted to ask you. But it's
kind of concerning and that you know, they they're able
to use whatever they did to investigate me or whatever

(31:40):
the document three hundred and forty six pages. I want
to know, and I hope you know, if anyone politics
their congressmen are watching, I think you guys would want
to know. This ties into the weaponization of your investigation
right now. You know, why did they do this?

Speaker 1 (31:54):
They?

Speaker 5 (31:55):
Yeah, thank god Matt Gates saw the Epic Times stories
about it. Congressmen Mcgates in Congressman Troy Neil's both connected
with me. On their own. Matgates sent a demand letter
to Garland Ray and my Orcus, demanding to know why
did you do this? Because he's a vocal school board
dad or peacefully tended January sixth Garland Ray and my
Orcas all acknowledged the letter. They never got back to

(32:17):
Mtgates never, So you would think if they labeled an
American citizen as a terrorist, you would say he did X,
Y and Z. They never answered demand because I didn't
do anything. Troy Neils sent the tsa letter in my behalf.
They got back to him until Troy Well he no
longer fits the profile to have the privilege, the privilege

(32:38):
to be a TSA pre check. Where out of the
blue did that happen? From what did I do? I
didn't do anything wrong, right, I fly internationally for you know,
I mean, it was crazy that they did that. And
then they also labeled my my wife and children as
quad esses as we want to Charlie Kirkson. I got, yeah,
I got pictures of what you know, my wife was

(32:58):
and my kids were only fifty team. My daughter's an
Eagle Scout and they were VIP guests of Charlie, all
expenses paid, and they yet they pulled them out of line.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
You know.

Speaker 5 (33:07):
My wife was she hates the politics, right, and she
went because the kids were, you know, going to t
posa we want as a family, and we missed our
flights on the way out there. On the way back,
they checked my family twice. I got it all on camera,
you know.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
And it's at the airport they did ohair.

Speaker 5 (33:24):
And in a Phoenix, and I got to figure out
how to block their faces up because I you know,
I don't want to you know, my kids just started
college and my wife's upset. But you could see it
in their faces and stuff, and I'm really pissed off
at what they did. You know, they labeled my family.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
That I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
I mean, the cost personally to you and to so
many others have has been extraordinary. But when you look
at what the j six defendants have gone through and
how they've been treated, especially in jail, say, for example,
versus people who were burning buildings when they were saying, oh,
it's a mostly peaceful protest and cars are exploding in

(34:08):
the background. We only got about a minute left, Terry.
But does that make you angry? Oh?

Speaker 5 (34:14):
Yeah, ladies. So for instance, the Chicago the Chicago I Center, right,
I've been over there with Ben Burkwham and all those
guys and filming these people attacking ice. Right, Dick Durbin
was doing a press conference and I yelled at him,
I go, should these people attacking federal officers be treated
the same way as the ones from January sixth? I

(34:34):
got it on a camera. He looks at me, he
makes a face like, screw you, right. I mean, remember
how the uproar they said about all these people that
were in And I believe anyone that attacks law enforcement
should be punished. But these guys were being sent to
jail without a trial, and you know, multiple multiple years.
Here in Chicago, they're praising them. Matter of fact, they
want them to attack the Ice agents. They're federal officers

(34:56):
just like the other officers. The hypocrisy is disgusting, and
I hope, I hope someone's watching this that has the
ability to go and find out who put Terry Newsom
on a watch list and then once they get letters
from Congressman who had the authority to take them off.
It shouldn't be that easy to put someone on and
take them off a list. As an American citizen, I'd

(35:16):
like to know who did that and what's in those
three hundred and forty six pages that you guys documented
from me at sixty years old, when I didn't comment
any crimes.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Terry, thank you so much for sharing your story and
thank you for joining me. I hope you could come
back with better news.

Speaker 5 (35:32):
Thank you. I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
God bless don't go away everyone, We'll be right back.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
Well, it's the opportunity to be an outsider, because it's
the outside is to change the world.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Perhaps you were born for such a time as this.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
Well, it's the opportunity to be an outside because it's
the outside is to change the world.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Perhaps you were born for such a time as this.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
You know, in times like these, when the news is
so heavy and the world just feels like it's turned
upside down, we need voices that remind us where our
strength really comes from. And I always like to end
this Faith and Freedom show by filling your spirit back up,
and there's no better way to do that than with
Pastor Anthony Thomas from Tip of the Spirit Church.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
He's a warrior for faith, a shepherd to his.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Community, and someone who always seems to have the exact
words that I need to hear. Take it away, Pastor Anthony.

Speaker 6 (36:39):
Hello, Faith and Freedom warriors. I want to share an
experience with you that I had last night. Dear friend
of mine called me and told me that a friend
and someone i'd done ministry with for years and another
state was in hospice and on his way to entering
into eternity. And we called each other, called him last
night and we spoke and how of you know, when

(37:00):
you're at the very end of your life and at
your last conversation, you don't waste time with things that
were base We shared words of strength, words of encouragement
with one another, and then his final remark to me was, Pastor,
I love you.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
I'll see you in heaven. Boy.

Speaker 6 (37:17):
It touched my heart. I got off the phone and
tears came out my eyes. And I want to encourage
you with this. Jesus said, rejoice for your name is
written in the Lamb's Book of Life. Twenty twenty six
is going to be an awesome year. Two and six
together is eight. Eight is the number of new beginnings.
It's going to be a year of great strength, a

(37:37):
year of great victory, and a year where we're going
to see the enemy defeated in massive ways. But I
want to encourage you of this. There is nothing more
powerful in this life than knowing where you are going
when you step from this life to the next. And
there's only one way to do that, and that is
through Jesus Christ. I want to pray for you, Father.
We thank you Lord that heaven is our destination. We're

(38:01):
in this life just a short amount of time, and God,
we have another year that's come to an end and
another year that's about ready to dawn. I'm asking God
your presence would now move even right now to twenty
twenty six. Yet it be a year God of new beginnings,
a year of strength, a year God of great defeat
upon the enemy and great victories for heaven. God, we

(38:23):
thank you, and we thank you that you sent.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
Your son Jesus to die for us.

Speaker 6 (38:27):
God, if we have saving faith in him and we
call upon him, we will spend eternity with you and
with those who loved him in heaven. God bless you.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
Love you guys, have a great year.

Speaker 6 (38:39):
If you want to follow the messages, I'm going to
be doing a prophetic message, you may want to watch it.
Go on rumble put Tip of the Spirit Church, Naples,
or go Tip the Spirit Church dot org. God bless you,
Pastor Anthony out.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Thank you, Pastor Anthony.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
I needed to hear that today, such a powerful message,
and I wanted to let you guys know that coming
in in February, perhaps stay tuned ted and I might
be appearing at Pastor Anthony's Tip of the Spirit Church.
I just kind of suggested maybe Pastor Anthony needs a
worship leader, and I know this guitar player who could
be available. So I'll give you more details on that

(39:18):
coming soon. But you know, We've covered so much on
this show, some heavy stuff fentanyl and affecting families. In
January sixth, families and lives are torn apart and people
are left behind. And I think it's really important that
after conversations like that, we just need to breathe, We

(39:41):
just need to pause and let it all settle in.
Because here's the thing. We can't carry the weight of
the world on our shoulders alone. It's not our job.
That's God's job. And he tells us in Matthew eleven
twenty eight, come to me all who are weary and burdened,
and I will get view rest.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Rest is not weakness. Rest is wisdom.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
And when the world feels dark, and let's be honest,
some days it feels really dark. I can only imagine
what Steve Gruber went through when his friend's good friend's
son passed away. I mean, and we've all had to
experience deaths in our families, and sometimes it just feels
really dark. And faith is what pulls us through. Not

(40:30):
faith that everything's going to be easy, because God never
said that, but faith that we're not walking through it alone.
And I'm grateful, I really am. I'm grateful for this life.
I'm grateful for my family. I'm grateful for everyone here
at Real America's Voice, Grateful to have the responsibility that
we have to talk, to be able to talk, to

(40:51):
speak truth, and to shine our light and to love
each other well, because that's a gift, and every single
day is a gift. And so I want to leave
you with hope today, not fear, because fear is Fear's
a liar, Fear keeps you paralyzed. Fear is not of God.

(41:12):
But hope. Hope is what gets you out of bed.
Hope is what makes you fight for what really matters.
Hope is what's saying that tomorrow can be better than today.
And sometimes all we can do is just put one
foot in front of the other, and that's good enough.
Especially you know, when we have those dark days, it's

(41:34):
okay to pause, take a deep breath. I know one
of my New Year's resolutions is going to be to
slow down. We're living in an age where you know
we're doing so much at the same time. You know
we're texting family and friends and you know, giving directions

(41:54):
or walking our dogs when we're not fully immersed. And
it's almost like when I talk about my dogs. They
know that I'm not fully immersed in what they're doing.
I'm not paying full attention when I throw Jackson the ball,
and I'm still talking on the phone. One of my
New Year's resolutions is to let go of all that
and to just be present in every single moment. Take

(42:18):
more me time to rest. Rest is good. That's why
God wants to do that on the Sabbath, to take
a break. So, speaking of taking a break before we go,
you know I love a good laugh, So let's lighten
things up with some funny pet videos.

Speaker 7 (42:37):
Take a look.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Post sit day. I'll see you over there.

Speaker 6 (43:23):
As me sending in the mirror posa as day hanging
from day.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
Did you love that as much as I did?

Speaker 1 (43:54):
And I thank my producer Rodney for experiencing Saturday night
texts from me in the middle of the night. Not
middle of the night, but eleven o'clock at night is
when I watch these funny pet videos and I'll text
them we got to show this one. So thank you
for having patients, Rodney and everybody at Real America's Voice.
You know, we've got to lighten up. The world can

(44:16):
feel so heavy. And I've talked to a few friends,
especially during the holidays. We're all overwhelmed. And now we've
got a new year. So how are you going to
make this new year different? What are you going to
do differently? It's not about just losing ten pounds or
cutting out sugar or alcohol or whatever it is. I
think real lasting change. And one thing that I'm going

(44:40):
to do is I'm going to put down my phone
at night, at least two hours before I go to bed.
I'm just going to shut it off. Nothing good happens
after eight o'clock on your phone. You just mindlessly scroll,
and one minute leads into the next, into the next
and to the next. Do you notice that it's like
twenty minutes later.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
And I hear Ted.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Ted's always listening to and watching car shows and watching
hunting things, and you know, it's kind of what they
call mindless. And we've really got to re engage our minds,
and these phones don't do it for us. So that's
one of my New Year's resolutions is too fast from

(45:22):
cell phones and social media and screens, big screens. You'll
sleep better, I know I do. When I cut it out,
cut out cell phone, use a couple hours before I
go to sleep. I sleep much better and my mind's
not constantly going. So one of my New Year's resolutions
right there. If you are looking to get healthier and

(45:43):
feel better, because that's really what it's all about, we can't.
I was talking to a friend, Tina Griffin. I got
to get her on the show, and she goes, you know,
we can't go across the finish line crawling. You know,
when our time is up here, we don't want to
be crawling across the finish line. We want to go
across the finish line going Yes, I'm strong, I'm healthy.

(46:06):
I want to be that type of person. So if
you want to be healthier and strengthen your faith at
the same time, I want to tell you about my book.
One of them is called Abundantly Well, it's a forty
day journey. Now it is a great time to start it.
Grab a couple of books, grab a couple of friends.
I promise you, in forty days, you will be a

(46:27):
healthier person. You're going to learn all my secrets. I
taught at zumba class the other day and I hadn't
seen a couple of the gals. I've been teaching Zumba
forever teaching group fitness for forty five years, and another
woman said, how is it that you don't age? How
is it that you're the same shape. I share all
my secrets in my books, but check out abundantly well.

(46:51):
It's a forty day journey to weight loss, more energy,
and vibrant health, all rooted.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
In biblical wisdom.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
I wrote it because, after more than forty five years
and fitness, I've learned that real wellness starts from the
inside out. I could write a diet book or just
an exercise book, but it's got to be mind, body,
and spirit. And this book will meet you right where
you're at. I'll walk alongside you no matter where you
are and your health and wellness journey. I'll be beside

(47:18):
you every step of the way, sharing biblical wisdom and
all the tips and tricks that I've learned forty five
years in the fitness industry. And if you're someone if
you or someone else is dealing with some unexplained illness, fatigue,
brain fog, please pick up my book Killer House. Toxic
mold almost killed me. I don't want that to happen
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(47:42):
for such a time as this. I'll see you right
here next week. Thanks so much for joining me.

Speaker 4 (47:48):
Well, it's the opportunity to be an outside because it's
the outsiders to change the world.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Perhaps you were born for such a time as this.
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