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Speaker 1 (00:00):
About this, okay, because Donald Trump could blow up his
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own trade deal with Mexico and Canada. Can we just
talk about the kind of damage that these tariffs could
do to our relationship with our closest trade partners like Mexico.
Four hundred billion dollars with a bee worth of goods
are imported from Mexico to the United States.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
That that's a lot of stuff.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
I think it's really worth highlighting here just how we
are not talking about a repeat of Trump's first term tariffs.
In his first term, Trump definitely expanded the remit of
US tariffs, targeting, for instance, Chinese steel and other Chinese products,
imposing about tariffs on around three and fifty billion.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Dollars worth of Chinese tariffs.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
That is peanuts compared to the disruption that Trump is promising.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
Now.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Maybe he'll still pull back from the brink. We'll have
to see what he does, obviously, but he's now talking
about tariffs on close to two trillion dollars worth of
goods from Mexico and Canada, and China is our third
biggest trading partner, and that could be set to another
ten percent, as you mentioned, so really worth getting in
people's heads. That this is really not a similar thing
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that Trump did last time. It's a category different to say,
I'm not going to just target these sectors that we
want to bring back, you know, US production of, but
I'm going to target everything that these countries shifted to
the US, including you know, as that opening segment alluded
to things like avocados that we import from Mexico but
don't really have the capacity to make here in terms
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of what domestic consumers want.
Speaker 6 (01:35):
So this is a really big.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Threat to the economy.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
It is something that economists thought that maybe Trump was
bluffing in the campaign trail, or hope that he was
bluffing on during the campaign trail. But he's making clear
that at a minimum, he's going to walk up to
the ledge and a lot of people are going to
be in the crosshairs.
Speaker 7 (01:52):
Mexico and Canada are two of the biggest exporters of
fresh fruit and vegetables to the United States. In twenty two,
Mexco supplied fifty one percent of fresh fruit and sixty
nine percent of fresh vegetables imported into the US, while
Canada supplied two percent of fresh fruit and twenty percent
of fresh vegetables. Think about that a combined fifty three
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percent of all of our imported fresh fruits and a
combined eighty nine percent of all of our imported fresh vegetables,
eighty nine percent of all imported vegetables. That is a
lot of vegetables. But I don't know. Maybe you're someone
who likes the son of that. Maybe you think that
you should grow more of its fruits and vegetables domestically
and just stop.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
Importing so much.
Speaker 7 (02:36):
Well, the problem there is that Trump's other signature promise
could destroy that option too. According to the Departments of
Labor and Agriculture, nearly half of the nation's nearly two
million farm workers lack legal status. The same is true
of the workforce that makes up our domestic dairy and
meat packing industries. Now, I am no professor of economics.
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Who am I to say that that would make American
grocery prices skyrocket?
Speaker 6 (03:05):
Luckily for me.
Speaker 7 (03:06):
Routers talk to a food economics and policy professor who
told Reuters that mass removal of farm workers would shock
the food supply chain and drive consumer grocery prices higher.
It's not just grocery bills that will feel the impact
of Trump's agenda. Here take housing costs. Not only does
the US get the majority of its imported lumber from Canada,
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which Trump's tariffs would make twenty five percent more expensive,
but Trump wants to deport the labor force that builds
a gigantic portion of America's housing. This weekend, Texas's construction
industry sounded the alarm about just how devastating Trump's promised
deportations would be for the industry's capacity to build. The
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CEO of the construction Giant Merrick, told NPR it would
devastate our industry. We wouldn't finish our highways, we wouldn't
finish our schools, Housing would disappear, They lose half their labor.
Tariffs on their own could devastate our economy. Nasty portation
on its own could devastate our economy. And Donald Trump
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says he wants to do both. On day one.
Speaker 8 (04:15):
This three necessarily went on the deportation side. And it's
anywhere from eleven to twenty million individuals as has been
targeted by President Trump and some of his potential cabinet
picks or deputy chiefs of staff. The industries that will
be affected so agricultural, hospitality, healthcare, housing, construction. When you
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have a labor shortage, then in multiple industries, it's not
just that the price goes up. Things don't get done
that everybody seems to rely on. There are thirty three
million non native workers in the US labor force, of
one hundred and sixty eight million, eight million of those
are undocumented. So if they're going to round them all up,
we're going to be doing a lot of things on
our own that we didn't do on our own in
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the past.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yeah, en firing fifty thousand federal workers going to put
those people in the field.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Where is China.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
China is at the forefront of this ventanyl thing. And
I think the real tariff war is not going to
be on Mexico or Canada. It's focused on a cheater,
a liar, a steeler since nineteen ninety nine when they
came into the wto This is a country, not the people,
but the leadership that just doesn't want to play by
the rules. And I live it in my businesses every day.
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I would like to go to Defcon one with China.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
Tariff's four hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
I brought it up.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Bring the Supreme leader to Washington, or crush his economy.
Until he has riots in the streets.
Speaker 9 (05:36):
Again, We've had strategies to deal with China.
Speaker 10 (05:38):
They don't have it.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Oh, absolutely one administration says ninety nine is dealt with.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
I thought Trump was going to be tough on China.
Speaker 7 (05:44):
He had four years he's going.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
To get I was going to say that this is
time to really put thirty.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
Tariff enough for China.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Then, because he says it's going to be ten percent
higher than Mexico and Canada.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
No, it's not enough. What you have to do is
target parts of their economy with there's a lot of workers.
Just for an example, let's say yoga mats. Let's say
we apport a million yoga mats a month, all the
yoga mat factories four hundred percent tariffs on yoga mats.
They all get unemployed. They go to the streets, they
scream at Supreme Leader, I'm starving riots. That's what he
went up and says.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Can I just ask no, No, I do want to
have people at home. They're wondering how this works. When
this happened last time around, when Trump launched tariffs against China,
they retaliated. Were they effective at politically targeting return tarriffs?
Like was China able to say, well that the.
Speaker 7 (06:33):
Kind of a BS deal where they were going to
buy more soybets.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
They lied, they cheated, they steal, stole.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
I think we use my language. This is the primal
scream of a dying regime.
Speaker 11 (06:47):
Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on
these people.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
There's not got a free shot. All these networks lying
about the people. The people have had a belly bull
of it. I know you don't like hearing that.
Speaker 11 (07:00):
I know you've tried to do everything in the world
to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
It's going to happen. And where do people like that
go to share the big line?
Speaker 6 (07:07):
Mega media?
Speaker 11 (07:09):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my
task and what is my purpose? If that answer is
to save my country, this country will be saved.
Speaker 10 (07:24):
War room.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
Use your host, Stephen K.
Speaker 10 (07:27):
Math.
Speaker 11 (07:34):
It's Wednesday, twenty seven November and the year of Our
Lord twenty twenty four. Welcome, you're in the war room.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Two things I.
Speaker 11 (07:42):
See changed last night with all the networks MSNBC, the
official propaganda department of the dying regime. Thirty minutes on
every show yesterday was actually a detailed policy discuss ussion
on economics. Now they still had trumpay, and I'm gonna talk
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about that. But for the first time since President Trump
came down the escalator in June seventeenth of or June
fifteenth of I think the seventeenth or twenty fifteen, it
wasn't just unchained hatred. It was actually a quite sophisticated
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Although they're totally wrong.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
I'm gonna get to that in a second of how
we got them jammed up.
Speaker 11 (08:30):
But for thirty minutes, whole segments talking about economics, terrass
global economy. Where do we get from our trading partners
in Mexico, What do we get our trading partners in Canada?
What do we get from the China and the Chinese
Commists Party? Or Leary giving Kevin O'Leary giving one of
(08:51):
the most succinct and smart analysis of the Chinese Commers Party,
the fascist economy built on the slave labor allowed by Jing.
Last night, by the way, for the new Federal State,
I talked to thousands of people in one of these
zoom calls to talk about going forward and everything we're
working on, and the Laobaijing is more dedicate than ever
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because they understand that the shaky the question of legitimacy
and illegitimacy. The Chinese Commress party to talk about the
one trillion dollars that she's had to infuse into the
local economy. Everybody understands that China's right on the edge.
This is why President Trump, they can't take a twenty
five percent tariff. The tariff discussion is getting back now
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to actual thing called policy, not just raw hatred policy.
In a sophisticated analysis for every show, Chris Hayes, Joy,
Anne Reid, Lawrence O'Donnell, and particularly Stephanie Ruhl and her
show last night was and Simone was on there.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Simone good on it. It was brilliant.
Speaker 11 (10:01):
You had Stein from the Washington Post. You had very
sophisticated people, and Stein brought the key point. This is
why where President Trump said yesterday is so different. He's
not talking about I'm gonna put tariffs on avocados. Remember
when we had the situation with the wall and they
had Peter Navara, and Peter Navara went down there and
they started talking about potentially blanket tariffs, and all of
a sudden you had ten thousand Mexican marines deployed to
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the border with the whole thing will remain in Mexico,
the first part of it using tariffs as a blunt
force tool. Right, we really haven't had discussion Stein. The
Washington Post brings it up. His twenty five percent tariffs
on Mexico, the twenty five percent terriffs in Canada, the
twenty five percent tariffs on China are blanket tarriffs are
our three largest trading partners. I don't know, it's two
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or three trillion dollars of trade. What was his message?
His message to Mexico and the Chinese counts party. I've
had it with the fentanyl. I've had it with the
seventy thousand people dying a year. I've had it with
the Vietnam War every year. We're not going to tolerate anymore.
And you're not listening to me, just like the American
people in the fifth Do you.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Hear me now? Do you hear me now? But here's
the beauty politically.
Speaker 11 (11:11):
MSMEC and it was a reason debate and discussion, But
here's the beauty of it. What's the one thing they
keep talking about Chris Hayes and Alex Wagner, two of
the smartest. Oh, we're in the unenviable position of having
to defend a system that's not working for the American people.
We're having to defend institutions that need reform. Last night, MSNBC,
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when you see this MSBC and CNN, they took the
Wall Street party line because they added the deportations, and
you're hearing the Wall Street party line. This is why
they initiated an exacerbated an invasion of the southern border,
was to break, to break the African American and the
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Hispanic working class. Pale and Yelling were upfront, and they
just reiterated and doubled down on MSMEC and CNN. Hey,
you can't import anybody because your wage is going up.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Now they're all worried about inflation.
Speaker 11 (12:11):
They're worried about inflation from tariffs, and they're worried about inflation.
If you deport people, it's going to be inflationary. What
does that mean, Oh, yeah, that's right. That means wages
of citizens of this republic, and particularly low skilled citizens
of this republic, their wages will go up.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
They have backed themselves.
Speaker 11 (12:33):
And this is because their producers are so lazy and
so stupid that they've taken the Wall Street line. They're
now defenders of a institution you cannot possibly defend because
Wall Street's not about the smart allocation of capital at
the lowest prospibal price. This is late stage finance capitalism.
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This is Larry Fink and the oligarchs. They're pitching the
oligarch's line that all the whole world has to come
in and compete against the people most vulnerable.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
This was the Ino.
Speaker 11 (13:09):
Why do you think the ten or fifteen men that
are here under Biden's watch were all to drive down
the wages of the low skilled workers They talked about
all the time, and at worked.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
It drove down their wages.
Speaker 11 (13:21):
And now they're all panicked that your church, your school,
your construction workers, building, the people picking the.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Vegetables, all of it's going to rise.
Speaker 11 (13:30):
They never talk about the reverse, that you actually have
increased wages for American citizens. We got them. We've backed
them into a corner. We've backed him into a corner.
They can't defend. This is about the nineteen thirty two,
the fifty year realignment. No Richard Maddow, this is not
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an autocratic breakthrough. This is about economics. It gets his
past race, it gets his past gender, and we own it.
We own the moral high ground. We own the high
ground on this. They're just nothing but stooges. Stooges for
their advertisers and their corporatist bosses. A couple of days
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before Thanksgiving, a major, major, major sea change around tariffs,
around protectionism, around bringing back high value added jobs to
the United States of America, and Kevin O'Leary, I could
hug him.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Let's go to Defcon one.
Speaker 11 (14:34):
You go to def you put twenty five percent terriffs
on the Chinese Commedies Party. Right now, you will break
the Chinese Commuties Party. Short commercial break, Kerry Lake, it's
on deck in.
Speaker 10 (14:46):
The war room.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
What to watch for next?
Speaker 12 (15:01):
I think we need to be watching for something that
they call autocratic breakthrough. Autocratic breakthrough is when the party
in power uses the power they do have in government
to make sure they can never be dislaunched from government.
I'll give you a concrete example you've already seen in
the House of Representatives, now that Mike Johnson is back
in as Republican House speaker. They change the rules in
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the House to make it much harder to remove him
as speaker. So that's them digging in, planning to stay
for the long run. Now we're here, you're not going
to be able to get us out. You've seen Trump
quote joking end quote about expecting to stay in office
for a third term once this second term is up,
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and that's of course against the constitution, but he keeps
repeatedly bringing up, bringing it up that that's his expectation.
Trump advisor is one time campaign manager Steve Bannon, saying
things in public about how they're going to be ruling
for fifty years. There will be any way to dislodge
them from power. Autocratic breakthrough is when they use the
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powers they've achieved through winning elections to cement themselves in
power so they can't be removed by future elections or
by other democratic meets. So we are we are watching
the efforts to consolidate power. We are watching four signs
of autocratic breakthrough, trying to entrance themselves in power so
they can't be removed. This is just the way these
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things go. This is how strong men rule. These are
the things that they're trying.
Speaker 13 (16:31):
Yeah, but I think Steve Bannon actually wants it. I
think Trump wants to be popular, and you are not
made popular by having a justice department they can't deal
with crime.
Speaker 14 (16:42):
Well, I think it's even deeper.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
I think it includes that. But look, you.
Speaker 14 (16:47):
Know, what Donald Trump has always wanted is what's good
for Donald Trump, and that means many things. I mean,
he used to talk about the swamp, and like many things,
the swamp is usually what he wanted as long as
it was for him, and anything that benefited him. I mean,
being able to interrupt the Department of Justices, going after antitrust,
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being able to interrupt the Department of Justice, going after
anyone who is a friend of his, anything that cur's favor.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
It's concerning.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
It also sounds like Congress is losing some of their
footing here.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
How way, what are you about this?
Speaker 1 (17:26):
And do you think we expect to see any himing
and hauling from members of the Legislative Bridge on this one?
Speaker 15 (17:33):
Well, this is from Project twenty twenty five, right, and
this talks you know, you'll notice that you know who
is heading Trump wants to head the OMB, the Office
of Management and Budget, Ross Vote and Ross Vote has
is one of the authors of Project twenty twenty five.
He likely will sail through Senate confirmation because he's been
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in this department before and he compared to a lot
of the the other cabinet members, he he has a
much more genteel profile. But his ultimate you know what,
He's written a lot about this, and he's talked about it,
you know, not funding the federal government, taking away.
Speaker 9 (18:12):
The power of the purse from Congress.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
And giving the president that power. And I think that that,
you know, is part of DOGE.
Speaker 9 (18:20):
But you know, again with these people from you know,
these Project twenty twenty five people like Ross, this guy
is pretty smart and he's very ideological, right, He's been
writing about this for a long time. You know, I
read a quote he had today that about how, you know,
the only way to honor the Constitution is to sort
of work around it. I mean, you know, this is
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a real ideological thing that's really explained in Project twenty
twenty five and talks about you know, this fundamentally is
about dismantling the administrative state, and this is you know,
quite worrying. If it works, it will really striple out
of power from Congress, and it will also reshape the
way the federal governments.
Speaker 11 (19:03):
Okay, so this is the other line of work, and
this is the deconstruction of the miministrative state. Remember this
is the fourth branch of government that the Framers and
the Founders never intended to happen, right it is, and
it's got the rogue element, the deep state as part
of it. It's full on right now because russ vote
is the centerpiece. As we've talked about, you have three
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elements of this that are all going to converge.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
You have the executive branch, and that's O and B.
Speaker 11 (19:35):
And remember the guys at doge Vivek and elon their
contract is their advisors and consultants to wait for it
O ANDB. O and B is a six hundred to
one thousand people on the White House, on the White
House campus over in EOB that manage every program. When
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we talk about deconstructing the administrative state and actually get
from a financial point of.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
View, getting the.
Speaker 11 (20:03):
Cost down, getting the six and a half or seven
training dollars down to four and a half or five
train dollars, but also just to get it out of
your life, get back to limited government. The blessings of liberty.
But doing this you have to do it programmatically. Don't
talk about you. It's not just firing individual bureaucrats who
happen to be bad actors. Obviously that has to happen.
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It's also not about deregulation. Forget deregulation, that is a
term and a concept from the Reaguan error. This about
a massive taking apart, brick by brick those elements of
the government, of the administrative state that is too much
in your life, and getting back.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
To a limited government.
Speaker 11 (20:44):
Conservative have talked about this for years and they've never
done anything about it. And most of the people that
are the theoreticians and the smartest guys in the room, i e.
Russ vote were movement conservatives that are now populist an
economic nationalists. So vote at omb and they've conceded now
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on every show that Russ vote is brilliant. Russ vote
is that's Molly fash Young, who hates us more than anybody.
He's genteel and she's very smart. She sees what's coming right.
Russ knows all the numbers he had om b under
President Trump in the first term. And this is the
power of Russ vote. He's not looking for Oh, I
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want to go to treasury. I want to do this.
Russ vote is for the cause. He's not for RUSS vote.
That's the power of RUSS vote. These guys like Navara
and russ Vote. They are true believers.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
In what we're doing.
Speaker 11 (21:38):
They're not looking for their own self and grandizement. That's
the oen B part. You have two other elements. You
have the doge, which is Vivek and Elin and they
have a whole team. They will partner with O and
B and additionally have the appropriations process.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
And this is what I keep saying, we should not
we should take us seat.
Speaker 11 (22:00):
We are okay, folks, don't melt down on the twentieth
when we run out of money. Just kick it, get
to a cr and kick it. Ninety days into Trump's term.
So President Trump, Russ Vote, Scott Bessant or actually in
his cabinet are actually doing the budget with people on
Capitol Hill, in the appropriations process. In the appropriations process.
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This is where Levek, this is where Elon, this is
working with vote. This is hey, this is these are
the things that I don't think we need to fund.
We don't need to pass and we shouldn't pass a
bill with six six and a half train of spending
then just to go back over the year.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
And have the and have the have the dose.
Speaker 11 (22:42):
Guys, take it out. We have an opportunity to do
this all in the first hundred days. And Vivek and
Elon have teams up there. And this is why I said,
I think the interview was in Puck last night with
the great Peter Hanby, one of the last one. We
call boys on the bus, the old fashioned kind of
journalists that that really do the old fashioned journalism.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
I told him one of the things is impressing.
Speaker 11 (23:04):
Me with Elon, and look, we have huge ideological differences,
including about the Chinese Commas party.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Let's put a pin in that for a second.
Speaker 11 (23:12):
I said, what's fascinating to me is that he put
money up for the least glamorous part of the victory.
And I said, hey, it was not it was without
Elon and Charlie Kirk and Marriam Adelson putting that money in.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
And you this audience were.
Speaker 11 (23:24):
The hoplights for the get out the vote, the going
door to door of the canvassing that got the low
propensity voters to the polls. We wouldn't have had the
massive victory, so he deserves to see the table. Also,
what he's doing on Doge is this is pick and
shovel work. This is not glamorous and not just that
you're gonna get amazing blowback. You see what they're blowing
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back on Terrash right now, they're taking the Wall Street line.
But last night, and I appreciate it, you had twenty
to thirty minutes of every one of these shows talking
about Terra's but you know, the hair is still on
fire about Trump. You wait till you start taking a
part the government and we start doing less, they're going
to be more on fire. This is what I call
the line of work. The three lines of work right
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now are just like I gave the speech SEEPAC back
in seventeen. It is the national security aspect of it
with Biden trying to see, you know, the national security
aspect and particularly not so much the Middle East that's big,
but in Ukraine, with the New York Times reporting the
New York Times, not Breitbart, not Gateway Pundit, not Revolver,
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but the New York Times.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Are beloved paper record.
Speaker 11 (24:33):
They're reporting that American officials and the Biden regime and
NATO officials and the elites of Europe, along with Zelensky
and the Ukrainians are talking about Ford deploying the potential
for deploying tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine if you want
to have metastasized in the beginning of World War three,
as the former Chief of Staff of Ukraine is saying,
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I think that might be.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
A way to do it.
Speaker 11 (24:57):
That might be the Cuban missile crisis on test tosterone. Okay,
that's one line of work. The other is the economic
is the economic nationalism. And this is what you're seeing
on the tariffs. President Trump's throwing it out there. Maybe
a blanket tariff on two trained dollars of trade. Hey,
I'm just thinking about it. Let me tweet that out,
let me put that on truth suck on that. But
this is all about economic policy. This is all what
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Besson's thinking about. You just had Kevin Hassett last I
announced as any see another rand Ce eight. You ran
the economist panel over the White House in the first term.
Another solid guy, and not just that. The reason he's
so important. He's a convert from Austrian school of economics
to populist economics. So that's the second line of work, right,
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the economic nationalism. And the third line of work is
the deconstruction of the Ministry of State. Hello Doge Russ
vote the appropriations process. This is the Trump planned from
the first term, and now it's more mature.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
It's got more.
Speaker 11 (25:56):
Is Robert Bartley in the in the Wall Street Journalists
to say, it's got velocity.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
You have person and how do we do that? For
four years.
Speaker 11 (26:06):
You've been working to become subject matter experts. This is
the whole training program of AFPI in Project twenty twenty
five to get the three thousand non Senate confirm the
landing teams, beachhead teams to hit the beach on the
twenty at the bridge and go. We also signed the transition,
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signed the transition documents last night.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
But what do they avoid?
Speaker 11 (26:32):
No FBI investigations and we're not going on their computer system,
so the administrative.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Of Deep State cannot see anything.
Speaker 11 (26:39):
The Trump transition is doing. It's happening, folks, it's converging.
We're converging on a point. That point high noon on
the twentieth of January, the year of Our Lord, twenty
twenty five. Carrie Lake joins us next in the war room.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Use your host Stephen k back. Okay, I know I
said the magic term CR.
Speaker 11 (27:09):
Just just you know, take take us, take up, take
a powder here at chill.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
You know we hate CRS here.
Speaker 11 (27:16):
And you guys in the next man up, Natalie and
Grace and others. You guys did a fantastic job during
the summer trying to fight this year.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
I thought it was great, all the games that were played.
Speaker 11 (27:27):
The reason we need this CR because otherwise you're gonna
get an omnibus where we're gonna try to get all done.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
And that's that's the concept of clearing the decks.
Speaker 11 (27:35):
When you here clearing the decks, that means they want
to take power away from President Trump. We have the
opportunity for RUSS vote to actually do this budget and
to start to do get us back to pre pandemic levels.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
That's the key thing here. We got to get back
to the four and a half or five trillion dollars.
Speaker 11 (27:51):
We spent pre pandemic, not to six six and a
half seven that Biden wants to spend. That's that's the
two tradion dollar, that's two tree in dollar deficit that
gets added to the face amount of the debt, and
you got to finance it can't happen. So we do
support a cr that just kicks it into President Trump's term.
We got to because we run out of money on
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the twentieth on Christmas Eve. It's coming as soon as
we get back, soon as we get back from Thanksgiven.
This will get to be a big thing. But don't
think we're going softening it. We're not going soft. This
is all strategicy.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Carrie Lake. You've been down at mar Lago.
Speaker 11 (28:27):
You're very close to the transition, obviously very close to
President Trump. There's all kind of rumors out there, things
in the air about how you may join the administration
and help President Trump.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
Just give me your thoughts.
Speaker 11 (28:38):
You see that taking down the administry, state people like
russ vote that even the opposition agrees. As a brilling guy,
just give me your thoughts of the transition so far,
what you're seeing, the cut of the jib of the
people coming on board now.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
I think it's incredible.
Speaker 16 (28:56):
I got goosebumps listening to the first two segments of
your show about what how incredible this movement is going
to be and we're actually going to get things done,
and we're going to you know, thin out the bureaucratic state,
maybe do away with much of the bureaucratic state.
Speaker 6 (29:10):
Russ is brilliant. I agree with you, Steve. He's not
in this for his own ego.
Speaker 16 (29:14):
He truly wants to get things back to where they
should be, what our government should look like, not this
out of controlled bureaucracy that's costing us in bankrupting, bankrupting
our country. I can't think of a better fit than him.
And I've thought all of the picks were good. I mean,
I was actually excited about Matt Gaez. I think Pam
Bondi is going to be great. So we've got incredible picks,
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you know, not everyone. What's interesting, though, is that how
the American people are watching this. It is like the
center of the world. Everyone is watching what President Trump
is doing. And he's got a great plan. It's going
to get busy and get kicked off on the twentieth,
as you said, high.
Speaker 6 (29:55):
Noon, and I think things are going to happen very.
Speaker 16 (29:57):
Quickly, whiplot whiplash fast, and we're going to start seeing
the economy turn around. It's hilarious, Steve, to watch these
MSNBC and CNN contributors trying to push for the administrative state.
That's their hero is the administrative state. If they don't
realize how stupid they sound, it's remarkable because they're now
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cheering on this out of control government bureaucracy and they
are acting like President Trump didn't have that first term.
You know, they were trying to warn us about his
first term, He's going to crash the economy, et cetera,
et cetera. We ended up having the strongest economy, We
ended up having the lowest unemployment. We ended up having
our dollar going a whole lot further than it did before.
Speaker 6 (30:41):
And they were warning us that he wasn't going to
be able to do it.
Speaker 16 (30:44):
And now they're trying to heed that warning again, and
we know, hang on that what they're saying our.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Lives, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. I
gave this speech a year ago in Pinehurst.
Speaker 11 (30:53):
It talked about on the twentieth to convert two things
are going to converge. You're going to have and you're
having an economic issue you have to deal with, and
that's threefold. Number One, we run out of money on
the twentieth of December. Government runs out of money. You
got to see our If you don't. If they tried
to do an ombibus, that's a swamp, donny. So you
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kick that in. So you got to kick that in.
But Trump still has to deal with He's got to
put together budget number one, Number two, the debt ceiling.
Kevin McCarthy. The reason Kevin McCarthy is not Speaker of
the House the only time in the history of this Republic,
Ladies and gentlemen, and this audience removed him through the
instrumentality of Matt Gates, the brilliant Matt Gates. But this
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audience was the one that took on Fox and took
on the Murdocks and we won. Why because Kevin McCarthy
gave an unlimited cap and for two years. And when
does the death ceiling come off? The third of January,
So President Trump immediately third of January, right, And then
you have the reversion of the tax cuts, which is
April fifteen. But that that all merges into an economic issue,
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in kind of crisis that has to be dealt with
at the same time. The second conversion thing is you
have to deport eleven to fifteen million people here and
carry so you're a frontline.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
We get to it.
Speaker 11 (32:10):
A couple of things on the I think is imperative
for us right now. We have to have very precise nomenclature.
And I'm afraid that this thing's getting a little soft
and a little squishy. Number one, this is just my recommendation.
I'm just a humble soul. I think that we need
to define. But the deportation should focus on everybody that
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came here starting at one minute afternoon on the twentieth
of January twenty twenty one, when Biden took out eighty
did eighty executive orders to get rid of everything Trump
had done to secure the border, everything Trump had done
on immigration, and he basically initiated and then exacerbated the
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invasion from that date until high noon on the twenty fifth.
I believe if you look at the math of Todd
Benson's that's somewhere around roughly ten million people. Okay, that
is a massive amount that you have to deport. We
shouldn't go back in time. I'm not saying we don't eventually.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Do that, but let's take care of the problem we
got now. Number two, and now I said it.
Speaker 11 (33:15):
Has to be humanly. And here's why the people that
came across. It's not their fault. They were invited here
by the Wall Street oligarchs. They were invited here by
the instrumentality of the illegitimate Biden regime that didn't win
the twenty twenty election. They were here because they wanted
the votes, but Wall Street wanted the cheap labor, and
they wanted the consumer. Where they're buying the doritos and
renting the apartments and all that, spending every penny they have.
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We have to, I believe Carrie, I would recommend having
a summit meeting, and let's pick a random place.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
McCallen, Texas, the.
Speaker 11 (33:46):
Capital of the Rio Grande Valley that now President Trump
is winning because in South Texas Hispanic American citizens sitting
They're going, I can't take this anymore. Somebody's got to
save me. That guy is Donald Trump. You have the
frontline nations of Central America. You have Mexico, you have
maybe Brazil, a couple nations in Latin America where like
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the Haitians are hanging out to wait to come here.
You have them all down, and Donald Trump, the deal maker,
walks through his proposal.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Have are going to work as a group.
Speaker 11 (34:17):
Collectively and humanly have their citizens go back to their
countries and make their countries great again. And maybe there's
some you know, economic incentives to do that, but the
hammer he's got is the tariffs that if you want
access to the best market in the world, that would
be the United States of America, you're going to have
to We're going to have to work collectively to do that. Now, Carrie,
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you're at the cutting edge of this and it's with
the Center campaign.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Okay, so walk me through your thought.
Speaker 16 (34:44):
Go ahead, wait a minute, the tariffs, but also foreign aid.
Foreign aid should be contingent on these countries taking back
their citizens. And I know you can look at it
in a beautiful way. We're going to be creating You
said ten million, ten million amazing homecomings. These people are
going back to their country, and I agree. I've always
said that along when I was on the campaign trail.
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We need to send the people back who poured in
during the Bid invasion because these people came over and
we have not properly vetted them. We know that there
were what three hundred and twenty five, three hundred and
fifty thousand children who were trafficked to cross We got
to try to find those kids and get them back
to their loved ones. I do believe it needs to
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be done humanly, of course, but it's going to have
to be a combination of tariffs, and it's going to
have to be a combination of foreign aid not going
to countries that refuse to take their citizens back.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
These aren't all people going to Mexico, you know.
Speaker 16 (35:39):
I remember talking to many border patrol who said it's
very rare in the last three and a half years
for anybody coming here illegally from Mexico. These are coming
from one hundred and seventy different countries around the globe.
Speaker 6 (35:50):
We're talking.
Speaker 16 (35:51):
We're talking China sending in spies across our southern border.
We got to make sure that we're sending these people
back to their homeland, the ones who came and during
the Biden vasion. I'm not talking about going back twenty
years ago.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
You agree with that.
Speaker 11 (36:07):
Look you're Arizona that we have look at I don't
know it's six eight ten million. I have no idea
because Biden, but it's somewhere around there, and that is
the bity knows deportation the history of the world.
Speaker 6 (36:20):
Yeah, somebody knows how many.
Speaker 16 (36:22):
I mean, they all did get processed, you know, especially
using the CB one or you know the app that
Kamala Harris and the Borders are created to help people come.
Speaker 6 (36:32):
In and assist.
Speaker 16 (36:33):
It was kind of like the Expedia for people coming
here illegally.
Speaker 6 (36:37):
You know, these apps can work both ways.
Speaker 16 (36:40):
If they came here illegally and signed up through that app,
we can find them and send them back. Buses and
planes go in both directions, and you know, I really
believe that President Trump will and I'm hearing Tom Homan
talking about this. We are going to be sending people back,
and I think that we have to do that in
order to save our country. And I believe that at
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the end of the day, being the master negotiator that
he is, President Trump will get these countries to cooperate
and take back their citizens. But we have to start,
I agree with Tom Holman, with the most dangerous people
out there, the criminals.
Speaker 6 (37:14):
That we know are here. We need to get them
sent back immediately.
Speaker 16 (37:19):
Whether they came from Venezuela, whether they came from whatever
country they've come from. El Salvador, we got to get
them sent back immediately and make our streets safe as
quickly as possible.
Speaker 11 (37:34):
You mentioned something, and this is quite interesting. Walk me
through your concept because President Trump saying, hey, I got tariffs,
I have economic policy, and Navarre did this before, but
you brought up something. You're talking about foreign aid and
maybe even military assistance.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
What do you mean by that? Where would you go?
Speaker 11 (37:51):
That seems like a us AID thing, which many people
are saying if it's always been a front for the CIA,
but I don't know.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
It's forty or fifty BA dollars?
Speaker 11 (38:00):
Is that the type is the State Department, the Defense Department?
Is that what you're talking about to bring those forces together?
Speaker 16 (38:06):
Also, ma'am, well you mentioned USAID, I mean the fifty
billion dollar budget, ten thousand employees. This was started what
sixty plus years ago by JFK is a way to
stop the spread of communism, and what it's doing now
is just pushing DEI and difficult, horrible climate change policies
that are actually crippling other nations, not helping them, not
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assisting them, making life more difficult, making the economy, economic
factors even more glaring for these poor countries.
Speaker 6 (38:39):
And so we got to look.
Speaker 16 (38:40):
At you know, you mentioned the CCP and the Belton
Road Initiative and the trillion dollars that they put into
that to help build up these other countries and really
take control of these other countries. And we're pushing gender
ideology as part of our foreign aid. We got to
get smart, and we're not smart right now with the
Biden administration. And that's why I think President Trump, with
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the help of people like vi Veig and Elon, taking
a look at all of these different departments that have
just grown out of control. Can you imagine ten thousand
employees in this foreign aid outfit called usaid or as
you mentioned, maybe a CIA slush fund. We've got to
cut down on this blow. And if we are sending
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foreign aid, it should be to stop the spread of communism.
It should be to help people be pulled up from
immense poverty, starvation and actually help them, not be a
welfare program, but actually help them so that they can
actually become a functioning economy, a functioning society, and then
become strong and create middle class for these countries.
Speaker 11 (39:47):
Make their countries great. Okay, Carrie, hang on for one second.
We're going to want you for the next break. This
is why the one disagreement we did have with the
president when he said, hey, on the college graduates in
the community college graduates, we got to staple a a
green card.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
We said, mister President, we'd love you.
Speaker 11 (40:05):
We got another recommendation, Why don't we staple an exit visa?
Speaker 4 (40:09):
Right?
Speaker 11 (40:09):
They needed folks need to go home to make their
countries great again, and we need to work in conjunction
to make sure that that happens. There's going to be turbulence.
You know, there's going to be turbulence. Are they a
little turbulence in the bond market? They're sitting there going, man,
are Trump's terrorists inflationary?
Speaker 4 (40:25):
Or Trump's deportation going to raise wages?
Speaker 11 (40:28):
After Wall Street crushed the working class, the black and
Hispanic working class in this country, it's going to be inflationary.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
Bond market a little turbulent.
Speaker 11 (40:36):
Gold has been a hedge against that for ten thousand
years of man's recorded history, or five thousand years.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
Check it out.
Speaker 11 (40:43):
Birch Gold dot com slash spanned the end of the
dollar empire. Rachro matter your team has it wrong. We're
not trying to destroy the dollar, We're trying to save
it from the elites in our country. Short break Carrie
Lake on the other side, take.
Speaker 5 (40:59):
To go to death on one with China tariff's four
hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
I brought it up.
Speaker 5 (41:03):
Bring the Supreme Leader to Washington or crush his economy
until he has riots in the streets.
Speaker 9 (41:10):
Again, We've had strategies to deal with China.
Speaker 6 (41:12):
They don't have it.
Speaker 5 (41:13):
Oh, absolutely one administration says ninety nine is dealt with.
Speaker 6 (41:16):
I thought Trump was going to be tough on China.
He had four years.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
I was going to say that this is tied to.
Speaker 6 (41:22):
It was thirty tariff enough for China.
Speaker 14 (41:25):
Then because he says it's going to be ten percent
higher than Mexico and Canada.
Speaker 12 (41:28):
It's.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
Okay, Carrie Lake.
Speaker 11 (41:31):
You've been at the front line of this of the
fentanyl situation now President Trump yesterday the primary driver of
action here was President Trump saying, hey, I've had it
with the fentanyl. And remember, folks, here's the fentanyl is
the the opium war in reverse. The British East India Company,
the Brits, there's such lovely folks. How they they couldn't
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they know they sent they controlled India. Remember at the
time in the history Lesson we had our revolutions. It
was India and in North America we broke off because
the revolutionary generation and our framers and founders of the
nation didn't want to be even on the ground floor
of a vast empire because they said, it's a worthless,
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landed aristocracy that has totally corrupted commons.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
So the little guy has no real voice.
Speaker 11 (42:20):
And they've given these these charters monopolistic power to things
like the British East India Company. The tea that was
thrown into Boston Harbor was off of British East India
Company ship and the smugglers that were John Hancock and
Sam Adams and the sons of Liberty said hey, we're
free booters, we're entrepreneurs.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
We're not going to take this. Let's get rid of
these guys.
Speaker 11 (42:44):
So what they did the British East India Company going
to China, They sent a delegation to I think Nan
King of the time, and they were there for two
weeks and the Imperial Power came back and said, hey,
we don't want any of this stuff. All your stuff
is crap. We don't need it, we don't want it.
I'm not going to trade, so get the hell out
of here. And so what the British did. We're still
going to do it. So hey, they started in putting
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opium and this is what broke the Chinese and destroyed
the Chinese, destroyed China the addiction to opium.
Speaker 4 (43:12):
That was the Opium Wars.
Speaker 11 (43:14):
This is what the remember the Chinese Communist Party, the
Chinese think in centuries, this is what they referred to
as the Second or their Opium War. In reverse, this
is fentanyl to poison the United States through Mexico with
the partners and the catls up to so Carrie. President
Trump saying, unless you knock this off, and we're going
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to stop fentanyl one hundred percent, because we're having more
casualties twice as many casualties every year in fentanyl that
we had in the Vietnam War. Trump says, I will
put a twenty five percent tariff, and I will put
it in Mexico, and I'll put in China, and I
will break you. And O'Leary saying that's not enough. Let's
take them down. Let's take the Chinese Commanist Party and
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go four hundred percent and they'll be done in ninety days.
Speaker 16 (43:58):
Your thoughts, ma'am, well, I mean, I don't know four
hundred percent is right. But definitely I believe the CCP
is on the verge of collapse, and with a little prodding,
we could help bring that down and truly free the
people of China.
Speaker 6 (44:12):
The people of China are good people. This regime is.
Speaker 16 (44:16):
Absolutely probably the most cruel we've ever seen in our lifetimes,
what they're doing with oregon harvesting, what they're doing with
the slave labor, and the people are on the verge
of saying enough is enough over there. I think that
if with a little bit more pressure, we could bring
down the CCP.
Speaker 6 (44:34):
But the fentanyl.
Speaker 16 (44:35):
I have met so many moms and dad Steve along
the way in the last few years of parents who've
lost a sixteen year old son, or a twenty year
old daughter, an eighteen year old, even fourteen year olds
who are just gone because of this fensanel can you imagine?
And this is why I'm glad the President is going
to get tough with Mexico and with China, but particularly Mexico.
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We were sending a product into Mexico that was killing
a one hundred thousand of their young people a year.
There would be hell to pay, and there has been
no justice.
Speaker 6 (45:07):
Were all of.
Speaker 16 (45:07):
These people who died, and you know, why are we
not seizing some of these freighters that are bringing the
ingredients over?
Speaker 4 (45:15):
Amen.
Speaker 11 (45:16):
We see one the seventh Fleet and the seventh Fleet
in the carscard. I'll be off the coast of Mexico.
I was there as a naval officer. We're down there
for the Tunal Wars. So Carrie, can you hang through
the first the opening segment. There's no truth to the
rumor that I'm getting Carrie Lake ready to take her
Newsmax gig, that we're just getting her some reps here
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on Warham. There's no truth to that rumor whatsoever. We
are going to talk about Carrie Lake in her future.
She's one of the greatest pieces of manpower in our
nation and one of the greatest pieces of manpower in
the Maga movement. Carrie Lake's gonna stick around. Natalie Winners
are going to join us at the bottom of the
next hour. She's got a lot to say about the
autocratic breakthrough of the Color Revolution that's being run on
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the American people by Victoria Nolan and Rachel Matta on
that crowd and Applebaum, all of them, all the demons.
Speaker 4 (46:07):
Okay, We're gonna take a short break.
Speaker 11 (46:08):
I want to play as we do our out song
from Saint John the Evangelist and the Book of Revelations,
an original from Johnny Cash now covered.
Speaker 4 (46:19):
Was it t Bone Burnett and Billy Strings. When the
man comes around, is going to take you out? We
got a whole hour packed.
Speaker 11 (46:28):
It's gonna go through and deconstruct how they're trying to
take down the second Trump term, his third victory in
his second term, before he even gets started.
Speaker 4 (46:39):
Short break, returning to the war room in just a moment.
Speaker 6 (46:48):
The hairs on your arm will stand up to terror
any sip but any son.
Speaker 17 (46:57):
You partake of that last authored up or disappear into
the potters. When the man cols around here, the trumpets here,
the piper one hundred unlising, multitudes of hundred of the
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big hell drum, voices calling, voices crying. Some are born
and some are dying. As Alpha Hanno magas kind around
and the world winds in the thorn tree. The merchants
(47:44):
are ficturing their ricks, and the whirlwind's in the palm trees.
It's hard for thee to hick against the bricks till
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I'm a getting no shalam, no shalom. Then the Father
will he calls, check and home. The wise men will
bow down before the throne, and at his feet will
cast the golden crowns. When a man colds around, whoever
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is unjust, let him be as still. Whoever is righteous,
let him be righteous.
Speaker 3 (48:35):
Still.
Speaker 17 (48:36):
Whoever is filthy, let him be filthy. Still, listen to
the words written down. When the man cells around, here,
the trumpets, here, the piper, one hundred million angels again,
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Helta