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January 5, 2026 52 mins

In our first episode of 2026, Gizelle and Robyn review their holiday plans, Robyn’s cougar phase, racial incidents in basketball, the latest RHOP drama, Zohran, Erika Kirk, the rise of AI, Al Pacino, gold-diggers, Nicki Minaj, pastors and more!  

      

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Reasonably Shady, a production of The Black Effect
Podcast Network and iHeartRadio.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome to another episode of Reasonably Shady. I am Giselle Bryant.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
What's up? What's up? I'm Robin Dixon. Thank you for
being here with us once again.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Yes, twenty twenty six coming in hot.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Yes, Happy new Year to everyone. Happy twenty twenty six.
This is incredible that we are here, but hey, let's
make the most of it.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
So crazy, I feel like twenty twenty six is about
like positivity, happiness, joy, a bright light of sunshine. We'll
leaving twenty twenty five and the the toxicicity of twenty
twenty five.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
We're gonna leave that right there.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yes we are. I mean, we didn't know it could
get as bad as it's gotten, but hopefully twenty twenty
six be much better.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, Okay. Do you have a shady moment.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
It's not really mine. It's like I wasn't there to
experience this, but it was a shady moment that my
family experienced. So Wan and Corey went to Tennessee for basketball.
So the first this is like the first one of
the first trips, and I'm like, yeah, no, I'm not
going because they left the day after Christmas and they
were in Tennessee, like northeast Tennessee, right on the line

(01:32):
of Virginia until New Year's Eve night. They came home
New Year's Day, so they were there for a really
long time.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
It's back out. How was the Bahamas?

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Oh? Okay, so it was really nice, you know. Of course,
it was just nice to be there because it was
like so cold at home. It was nice to be there.
We had a good experience. The boys had a good time.
Like imagine like a whole team of teenage boys at
Baja mar just like you know, hanging out in there.
There's other teams and there's other girl teams. There was anyoning.

(02:06):
Were you chaperoning? Right? Listen listen? We would okay, no,
we were. We were, you know, not trying to be
like hovering, and Corey was enjoying his teammates. And but
we would be in the hotel. I say, it was
like eleven o'clock at night, so we were in the
hotel and then like two of Corey's teammates came off

(02:27):
the elevator. They were like, where's Corey and and they
were like they had these like crazy, these weird smiles
on their face. They're like they were like, I'm like, okay,
we know what that means, right, you're clear right right?
So so one is like, where's Corey. So anyway, he

(02:50):
like goes and finds them, and of course he's with
one of his teammates and a couple of girls just
walking around a hotel and stuff. I'm like, okay, so AnyWho,
that that was the whole weekend. Them, the boys, all
the boys from all the different teams are like walking
around the hotel trying to find girls to talk to.

(03:10):
So much so that I was approached by a teenage
boy and asked if I had a boyfriend? Yes, cool.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Out, okay.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
I was. I was like, so it was a group
of kid, group of boys. They were clearly a team,
and they were walking in front of me, and one
of them I saw, like took a double take, but
he saw me took a double take. And then so
I walked to the right and they kept walking straight
and then like ten seconds later, I hear this voice

(03:45):
behind me excuse me, And I turn around and it's
two of the boys from the team. Excuse me, do
you have a boyfriend? Look?

Speaker 3 (03:55):
He said yeah, I got a whole husband, right.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
I was like, I'm four, I got a husband and kids.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
He was likea so clearly he didn't know who your
child is.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
No, no, okay, But I mean it's so funny because
it's like these kids were on the prow for for
girls on the whole resort.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
And I was like, I was extremely excited. I was like,
it was very flattered. I couldn't wait to go find
Corey and be like, guess what just happened to me?

Speaker 1 (04:31):
So so then I tell Carter and Carter was like, oh,
he must not have seen you properly. He must he
must have been that must have been a joke. He
must have been joking with his teammates.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
I was like, he was like cart exactly.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
He was like, I mean, yes, you look good, but
you don't look like a teenager. I was like, I'm like,
you know what, thanks Carter, way to deflate my ego,
right right, But that.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Boy, get with you for five minutes. You changed it's light,
it changes silence. But it's so crazy.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
I was like, I was so excited. I was like,
I can't believe how excited.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
I am about So did they win their games?

Speaker 1 (05:16):
I feel like they only played two games. They won
one and they lost one. They lost the game they
shouldn't have lost. They were up like twenty points. They
lost the game. But whatever it was, you know, as
long as they had fun. I mean, and it was
good because like their coach allowed them to enjoy the resort,
like so they were able to go to the pool
and go to the water park and enjoy their time there.

(05:39):
So yeah, but I mean, they did well, but they
did lose a game that they should not have lost.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
But okay, I loved it.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Okay, let's conpectation. And then and then wait, before we
get off of Bahamas, I thought about you because I
tried to remember, did you complain about the Mosquitos and
the Bahamas before? Probably I was there we got I
was there from like the eighteenth to the twenty second,
right today's January second. I was still scratching my legs,
like as of like yesterday. It was in state and

(06:06):
it was to the point I thought I had I
was because it was all on like the bottom of
my feet, right on both of my legs, both of
my legs. I was like, do we have big bugs?
I had to like pull the sheets back to see
if there was any bid bugs. It was nothing, and
I mean it was the The mosquitos were insane cause
they were just like little small bumps. They're not like
the mosquitos that we have at home where you get

(06:27):
like those big, huge, swollen mosquito bites. I mean it
was just teeny tiny all over my legs and feet.
Was horrible.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
But but anyway, you know where I am and I
just sprayed with bucks brays, so Angel, we'll give me
the bug spray and that might be my shady bomba too.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Like I'm in a villa.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
And the first couple of days we were here, no mosquitoes,
and they told us they had sprayed. So I told
them come back day four, I said, come back and
spray again.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
They did.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
But we went to dinner last night and it was
like an outside beautiful. It had like all these twinkled
lights all over the restaurant, but it was outside and
it's dark, and I think the mosquitos just had a
party underneath the table and just tore my with a rain.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yes, and you don't think about it, because I'm sure
it's probably not like super hot where you are right now.
It's probably comfortable it's nice and it's warm, but it's yeah,
but it's not like muggy and human, so you're not
even thinking about mosquitos. And then that over there tearing
your legs up, tearing.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
My legs to smither rains like I was just itching,
but I'm starting to get better.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Oh really, Okay, we digressed.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
What's your shady moment?

Speaker 1 (07:39):
What Tennessee? Hold one, yes, yes, yes, geez, I'm like, wait, okay,
So in Tennessee, my Corey and Carter, I mean Coreywan
and the basketball team were there for a basketball tournament.
I chose not to go because it was just way
too long to be in East Tennessee, which we learned
was like like ku klux Klan town. The town that

(08:01):
they were in was pretty much where the clan was founded.
So yes, So my shady moment is my family was
transported back to the nineteen fifties.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Okay, time out. How many black boys are on this team?

Speaker 4 (08:17):
One?

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Two, three, seven?

Speaker 3 (08:23):
So the team is majority black?

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah, yes, major, I need for the coach to.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Do some research next time he planned a trick. Yeah,
because we are going to the country, we.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Aren't doing it.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Oh yeah, He's like yeah, no, never again. So they
are getting called the inward by spectators, by players. I mean,
they're getting like the whole game booed.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
It was bad.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
It was so bad yet to the point where they're
like when they get back to the hotel, they're like,
do not leave your room, like you all cannot go
anywhere by this. Ain't the Bahamas, y'all out walking around
the hotel.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
You cannot leave you And don't order no food because
the food that you're gonna get is poisonous, right right.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
They were transported back to the nineteen fifties, isn't that crazyrd?
I mean it was just as horrible. And these were
like young kids saying the in word. They did that
to another team. So there was another team from Baltimore,
which is like all black kids minus one that's one
white kid, and they were saying the in word, and
so like the one white parent on the team goes

(09:27):
up to the athletic director and was like, they're saying
the in word and they said the athletic director just
laughed and didn't say anything. Yeah. So yeah, I was
a poor coach, never again, never again. And I was like,
oh my god, thank god, I was not there. If
I was there, my little I would have lost my
mind and been yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
And it's sad that we still living in the country
that this is happening.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Guess when Georgetown played they played I think they played Syracuse,
they played somewhere years This was when Alan was playing
on the team. Alan Iverson and I think was on
the team, if I'm even saying right. Remember, yeah, So
I will never forget this because I watched it in
real time and they were throwing bananas on the field,

(10:18):
I mean on the Wow they were they were.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
Calling them monkeys. I mean it was so bad. And
I think Bubakah was not from this country.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
He was.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
He was like this.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
He damn near jumped on Alan's back and was like
get us side of here, like wow, because he knew,
you know, Alan is bad baba, so he yea his
way out. But you're bigger than everyone else on the team.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
So if anybody t.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Be u sir, yeah, yeah no, he said, I ain't
with this. I don't know nothing about this. I'm not
with it. That's funny, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
Yeah yeah, okay, Well you got out of there safely
and like never again.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah no, that's crazy. Yeah, so never again, they're not
going back.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Okay, So my shady moment is my mosquitos that will
tear me up.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
And and I think this was my shady moment last.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Year because I'm back in Saint Barts, I am living
my best life and.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
Every morning I'm awakened.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
By Oh I think you did talk about this before?

Speaker 3 (11:33):
Oh yeah, I need to know a why they're saying,
ka A bothered anybody right? Who the hell are they
talking to?

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Are they talking right? Are they talking to me? Are
they trying to tell me as having baby?

Speaker 5 (11:48):
Like?

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yes, they say wake your ass up, but means.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Wake your ass up, talk work. I don't understand how
this is just warm?

Speaker 1 (11:57):
So how many is it? Is it just one? No?

Speaker 2 (12:00):
So if I go outside, So this villa is a
new villa, I've never stayed in it before, okay, not
on the countryside.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
So there's animals outside. So there's like the pool and
then it kind of like there's a break and then
there's animals. So there's hens. Is it hens or what goes?
Cocko doodle do? Is that a hens?

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Roosters? Roosters?

Speaker 3 (12:21):
So there's hens and roosters.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
It's one female, one male. I don't know it's crazy
that I still don't notice anyway they're there. There's goats
out there, but you know, all the animals are very
friendly and nice. And then a bunch of birds, wow,
the roosters every morning or the hens or whoever like
cockle doodle do like or.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
Freaking church choir. And I'm trying to figure out why,
why right Graham to do that? Like what are they saying?

Speaker 1 (12:51):
And is the sun coming up at that time? Is
it light outside?

Speaker 2 (12:55):
It's it's starting to get maybe it's starting to get
like maybe it's like, okay, the sun's getting right come up,
sobody else need to be out.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
That's crazy, that's so. I mean, that's annoying, but it's
actually very interesting, Like it is kind of like it's
kind of it would be cool to experience like one
morning and then you know what I mean, like because
you hear what as a kid, you hear about like
the roosters cocka doodle do in the morning, and like
if you're never around the experience that, you're like, okay,

(13:23):
yeah whatever, but like no.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
That's a real thing.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
That's can you.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
It's to the point now I'm used to it, Like
they don't even wake me up no more, like okay,
y'all doodle doing.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Oh my god, can you like get a bb gun
and like just.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Oh okay now the words though, there's a situation with
birds because however, this villa is set up so the
doors in the front and the back are sliding glass doors,
right okay, and they're aligned so that they're parallel.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
Okay, so you can see straight through it.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Oh see straight through the house to the other side,
which is which is cute because there's nobody around and
I'm like on the top of this like little hillside.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Okay. The birds don't know that is glass door, so
suicide missions.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
Yeah, they'll be flying glass.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
You're boo, and they'd be out and then they pull
out right there.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
I'll cool some of them, you know, they get yourself
together and they come back to life.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Others they don't make it, so I'll blowup somebody. I'd
be like, this is a dead bird, and they'll come
and you know, got just.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Get it up. Okay, no problem like this happens every day.
Oh welcoos.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
You can do something to windows that stops them, stops
birds from doing that, which yeh, that they need to do.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Yeah, they need to do that, Yeah, because don't nobody
even see a bunch of dead birds outside their door?

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Mm hmm. We in twenty twenty six and we live
in our positive light, bright light lives, so we have
to jump back into twenty twenty five real quick.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Okay, it happened at the end of twenty twenty five
that we need to clear all.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Well, we talk about what we talk a we're talking
about scherifs okay, Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, our good
friend Cheris.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
I don't know what happened, did a bad night? She
designed to call Carlos King and say, hey, I got
something to say.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
I need content, So do you want to talk about
it first? And do you want me to go first?

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Okay, So I'll talk about it first. So well, I
want to talk about the Ashley and Jackson of it all? Okay?
Because so I saw there was some discourse prior to
Shury's talking to Carlos. I guess the episode air where
Ashley talked about how she kissed Jackson right then. So

(16:04):
after the episode, it seems like people were maybe criticizing
Charesa's response. So Charise must have gone on, you know,
maybe responded to some comments and pretty much said that
she sees things differently, and you know, there's no friends
in this business or whatever. So it seemed like she
was upset about the revelation that Ashley and Jackson had
some sort of interaction inappropriate or whatever, sexual physical interaction,

(16:29):
and then actually kind of made it worse because I
did see her watch What Happens Live question where Andy
asked about Jackson, and what I gathered from it was
that a lot more happened. So it's like Ashley continue
to kind of like talk about what happened with her
and Jackson, and pretty much, pretty much from what I
gathered from it was that they were intimate sexually, okay,

(16:54):
and maybe that has happened more than once. I don't know.
So I my thoughts because I have a son. I mean,
of course he's just seventeen, so we're not quite there yet.
But I'm trying to put myself in Charisa's shoes. I
think that age gap here is just kind of changes things. Right,

(17:19):
So if I'm sixty, my son is twenty seven, and
I have a friend that is, you know, in her thirties,
mid mid thirties or whatever, that I probably more so
look at as like a daughter or a niece than
an actual like you know friend friend. I don't know
that I would be upset if she were intimate with
my adult son, especially my adult son, who like if

(17:46):
my son. If I know that my son likes you know,
dates women and likes to like do whatever, you know. Yeah,
I don't know that I'm upset about it. What I
would be upset about is if my friend chose to
disclose that on national television. That's where I would have
the problem, where especially if I'm not a main cast

(18:09):
member of this show my son has you know, he's
not on this show, like there's like my son but
thinks he's living a private life. I think I'm living
a private life. I'm not a housewife. It's not about
my personal life. So that's where I would have the
issue if I were Serisa. The fact that Ashley chose
to tell her about this number one, she didn't need

(18:30):
to tell her. It's not really like that doesn't change anything.
That's none of Sarisa's business what her adult son does.
It's none of Sarisa's business what adult Astley does. Like
she didn't need to tell her, period, she didn't need
to know. But secondly, like to tell her on national television.
I did not like that. I thought it was wrong.
I thought it was unnecessary. If I'm Jackson, I'm probably

(18:52):
pissed because I'm like, I'm not even on this damn show, Like,
why are you even talking about me? So that's where
I have the issue. But it seems like I don't know.
I don't know. Maybe series is upset about that more
so than the fact that they actually were intimate the
way that it was delivered to her, But I don't
really know. I was kind of like disappointed that she

(19:17):
chose to talk to Carlos King and kind of like
air all that out and kind of like take it
a lot farther. I don't really know where all of
that energy came from. But it seems like maybe she
just was kind of like not blindsided. But I think
the discourse online from the fans and how people reacted

(19:40):
to it maybe caused her to look at things differently
and get upset. So I don't know, but I know, yeah,
if I'm sixty, my son is twenty seven, my friend
is thirty seven, I don't care what they do. I
really don't. Yeah, but just don't just don't talk about
it on national television. It's nobody's business, especially actually when

(20:01):
they're not cast members. Jackson's not a cast member. Charisa
is a friend that pops in popped in what three times?

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Like, I don't.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
I thought that was tasteless of Ashley to do.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Okay, my thoughts are I hear you, but I don't.
I don't that part. I don't.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
It's not my I don't care about my Oh. What
I care about today is Cherise. We discussed it on camera, Yes, me,
Ashley Sheris. I personally thought when Ashley was mentioned going
was in the process of mentioning it. I thought Serie
was gonna like flip the table, go to hell off,
go crazy.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
I don't know anything. None of that happened. Okay, great,
and saying so she's she's giving the same energy that
you that you just described.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Robin Jackson's grown. He can do what he wants, which
he is, and so is Ashley. Ashley's a beautiful girl.
They and and Charis has for years made comments about
Ashley being her daughter in law, and you know, they
they were flirty, flirting and that's that would be so cute.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
Blah blah blah. So there's no here, Okay.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
Then when it was brought up again in the whole
nother scene, Cherise had the same energy like she kind
of like thought it was funny, it was kind of cute.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
Whatever.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
You can't then let the fans gas you up to
then haven't have a moment, do then have an issue
off camera?

Speaker 3 (21:21):
Right like no, that's just I think it's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
And then how I'm catching strays is beyond me, okay,
and how Charies's rewriting.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
History is beyond me.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
And I'm not even will get into the weeds of
that because it's just like, actually, no need. But it's
crazy because Grace says to me when this all kind
of hit, have you talked to Cherise?

Speaker 3 (21:46):
Like why don't you just call her?

Speaker 2 (21:47):
And I was like, no, I haven't talked to Scherise.
And she said, well, what was the last time to
talk to her? And I said, let me think, And
I said, you know what, we hadn't filmed season ten.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
We had wrapped on it.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
And the week after Neka invited me out to celebrate
Cherise for Shares's birthday, you were invited to Robin. Yeah,
you couldn't make it. I could, so no, cameras. I
went to go celebrate Cherise. At the table was Nekka, Cherise,
me Ashley. So we celebrated Charise. Suris had no smoke,

(22:26):
she had no fire. We ate dinner, We left there,
went to the club, took it to the club because
she went to go dancing.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
No smoke, no fire. Charis had a grand old time.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
So I just don't know how then, Gizelle and Ashley,
but I'll just speak for myself are horrible people, bad friends,
makeup lies, wanted to push her out.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
Of Potomac, all these things that are simply not true.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
Yeah, So.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Now that I know Suris, how you would to feel.
Now that I know, I will govern myself accordingly. But
because I've always cared about Saris and I will continue
to care about her. I wish her the best of luck.
I want nothing but great things in her life and
God bless. But there's never been a moment for me
to support Urice, and I haven't done it. It's never

(23:19):
been a moment for me to speak up for Cherise,
and I haven't done it.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
So yeah, I don't really know where all the energy
towards you came from. I was very surprised to hear that,
very very surprised to hear that. And then regarding that
Ashley's stuff, I know she said something like she thought
it was a joke, she didn't believe it, And then

(23:46):
I don't know, but I think I'm just thinking, like
maybe you know, a lot of times on the show,
it's like you experience something and then you watch it
back and then you have a different perspective, or somebody
you know says something to give you a different perspective
and to make you think about things differently, which so
she probably she could have changed her thought process about

(24:09):
everything and probably maybe looked at it a little deeper,
or maybe somebody you know said said something that made
her whatever, like think differently.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
But I don't know. I mean, I I.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Wish I had like a little more insight to be
able to say, like, no, this is exactly what the
issue was, especially with you. I don't know, but yeah,
I'm gonna have to call her and be like you
call what happened. And we spoke recently, very recently, and
after the Ashley stuff, we spoke and she didn't have

(24:45):
any like, she didn't have anything negative to say about you.
So I don't know how she got on that topic. No,
I didn't watch the whole interview. I just saw clips
and I saw like the headlines where it was like,
you know, Cherie says Giselle, you know whatever whatever or
was or she was implying, you know, some person, and
it was clear that she was talking about you. And

(25:05):
I'm like, I don't know where this came from, Like
she's never like the thing that I didn't understand, She's
never said anything like that to me, like never, you know,
like never. And then I know like you always vouched
for Scharice, you always tried to get her included and
spoke to production about, you know, let's include Sharis. And

(25:25):
so I'm just like, I don't know where that came from.
But I hate that we're here.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
God bless her, God bless and because if I know
that I've been nothing but a friend to you and
then you just like mix it up in your head,
I can't.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
I can't help you further, right, Yeah, Like it's unnecessary.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Yeah, I mean I can understand that. It's like where
do you go with that? I don't know, but it's
unfortunate that it got there. But I don't know. My
thought is just like somebody must have just like said
something that made her like And.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Even if somebody did gash you up, you still have
your own mind, you still have your own history. I
have won a fifteen year history with Jeris, and last
I checked, I did not do anything to her.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
So yeah, it is what it is.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
God bless her. I wish her nothing but greatness in life,
her and her whole family, like the kids, everybody like what, Yeah, okay,
I want this is my new hero. I want to
talk about my new hero.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Switching with that. The mayor of New York.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
Oh yes, yes, speeches right now, and he's given out
real full government names of rappers that I didn't know existed.
He's he quoted Jadakiss, right, Jadakiss is whole real name.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
And I'm here for all of this.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
So what is he saying? I missed that part? Is
this in his like inauguration speech?

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yes, in his speech he wore frienced Jadakiss and something
that Jadakiss had said great, right, but before he was
like in the words of j Edgar Kiss or something.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Like whatever I wrote what it is?

Speaker 2 (27:21):
He gave his government name and then he also said
also known as Jada, Oh my god, did he really
say that?

Speaker 6 (27:30):
And throughout it all, we will, in the words of
Jason Terrence Phillips, better known as Jadakiss or Jay to
the mois, be outside, because this is a government of
New York, by New York and for New York. We're like, yes, yes, whoa.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Now I don't any this man's politics, right, he's doing
for this for the city of New York.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
I mean for the state of no city, city of
New York City. Yeah, look ahead, Madami gone and continue
to quote rappers. I love it.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
That's funny. Well, that's probably how he got elected. But
so I did see. Okay, there was some discourse at
his inauguration. Two things. He took the oaths of office
using on the Qoran instead of because he's yeah, so
instead of the Bible, he took it on the Quran.

(28:30):
And so of course, you know, I don't know, some
little hater, white supremacist type people are upset about that, right,
So they're picking on that. It's like, what what difference
does it make?

Speaker 3 (28:41):
Does the law specify you're putting your hand on the Bible?

Speaker 1 (28:46):
I don't think so. That's well apparently so, And I
didn't know this at the time. Apparently Trump didn't even
put his hand on the Bible when he took the
oaths of office this term. He didn't even use the Bible.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
What did he you what do he put his hand
on his pus? Can he find out?

Speaker 1 (29:07):
You can't? I don't know but that, but apparently he
didn't even use the Bible. So clearly it's not like
I don't I don't know, I don't know what you're
supposed to do, but like lay him do what he
wants to do, right, and if he's Muslim, then that
that's appropriate. Secondly, yes, Secondly, they're criticizing the cost of

(29:32):
his wife's boots. So she had on some boots that
people think were like some six hundred dollars designer boots.
And apparently he ran on a platform of affordability and
making you know, housing affordable and everything affordable in New
York and people are criticizing the fact that she had
on six hundred dollar boots. Like, I'm so sick of people.

(29:55):
People are insane. People pick and nitpick over every little thing.
We don't know. Who cares how much her boots cost?
Number one? Number two, she could have been gifted those boots.
They could have been on sale. She could treat herself
like what what this is? What we're doing affordable to her?

Speaker 3 (30:15):
And I understand the whole concept of affordability, and I
believe that, Like I kind of feel like New York
has kind of gotten unaffordable to anyone side of like
a billionaire. But Lena's went alone. She didn't side up.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
I sense it's so crazy that might be her only
pair of boots, Like who goes?

Speaker 3 (30:32):
But like, why does it matter?

Speaker 1 (30:34):
It's just people? So so I feel like, I mean,
that was on day one of him being sworn in.
I feel like he's gonna just have a bunch of
people nitpicking every little thing that he does and says
and so but you know, kudos to him for being himself.
Hopefully he can continue to be himself and continue to

(30:54):
just do what's best for the city.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
So yeah, I think I'm I'm I'm curious to see
what he's going to be able to pull off.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
I really really am. Yeah, speaking of white supremacists, and
I'm not saying she is.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
But can we talk about Erica Kirk for just like
eight seconds?

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Sure?

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Because I saw this video of her and she's like
swinging around, She's like talking. It's in this fireworks going
off and she's like swinging.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
What wait, is this real? This is ai? Is this ai?

Speaker 5 (31:27):
No?

Speaker 3 (31:28):
I promise you it's not. What is happening. She's grieving
in a very strange way as all because I thought
her husband was murdered.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
You know, there's like all these different stages of grieving.
She's on a stage that, like most people aren't familiar with,
and that is like elatedness, like she's in she's in
the latedness state. She's in the attention seeker Erica Kirk,

(32:04):
we see you, we see how happy you are.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Man. And my kids have told me, I think we
talked about this, that she's pregnant.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
I don't believe that.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
By jd Vance No, by who, But nobody has said
bye who. But they said she's like, well, time is
time has changed now. But let's just say at the
time she said she was eight weeks pregnant when he died.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
No, she was eight.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Like, let's say it's today, she was eight weeks pregnant today,
but he died two weeks ago, so we will know
who's father of this baby.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
Povig you need what, yeah, Mark Povich? Yeah, may boys
to Daddy JD. But I'm gonna leave that alone.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
That is wild, Okay, that I didn't know she was
slipping around stage like that. That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
Now in other Ai news this, I was intrigued this
whole Thai young thing. Do you know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Oh? Yes, she was on love and hip hop of
course you.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Know me for a little while. Y'all gonna have to
do a deep dive as to who this is. But
seems like a very nice young lady, yes, but nice
lady yes. So then she started posting pictures of like
her and a great loving relationship and now she has
a son. Yes, right, I saw that, and so people

(33:32):
were excited, excited, but some people were like, huh what
I can't stand gay couples with kids, So I mean
just foolishness.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
Right right? But it was all a lot? Was it
all a lot?

Speaker 5 (33:46):
It was?

Speaker 1 (33:47):
You know what, It's so funny. I don't I saw it.
I came across that picture and I was like, this
is Ai. Like it's now you have to everything you
look at online. And I remember I talked about this
on the podcast. I was like, I'm Ai is out
of control. And when I saw it, I was like,
I paused for a second. I was like, Okay, that's

(34:08):
that's new, Like that's interesting. Really you fell for it.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
I was like, oh, this is so sweet, little kid
with somebody. This is great.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Yeah. No, I knew it right away.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
I knew it.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
And I don't know anything about her, but I knew.
I knew that she was like a lesbian, That's all
I knew. But when I saw it, I was like,
this is Ai. And then I read the cab whatever
her caption said. I think she kind of said it
was not real or I don't know, but like, yeah,
this is getting out of control. It's so out of control.
But the pictures look so good. They look so real.
They look like life like and like but it's almost

(34:46):
like the pictures look too real. They look too good.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
They look like everybody whose boyfriend is Michael B.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Jordan's yeah, right right, Like everybody just looks so good.
And it's like, okay, this is We've on to like
another level. And I've and I've come across like Instagram posts.
It'd be like a beautiful woman. I'm like, oh she's
really pretty, and I look and I'm like, this is
an AI model? They actually, yes, They have AI pages

(35:13):
for AI models and people follow them and they continually post.
They have AI singers. People are singers and they put
out songs and they're AI. It's really crazy.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
It's bad, okay, well bad in twenty twenty six, I
just want to make this announcement. Giselle is real and
so is Robin, like right, but somebody.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Could easily make something some AI photo or AI video
of us and it's not real or the other ones
that you see. Sometimes you'll see like it'll be like
a doctor and they're talking and they're like, these are
the ten things that I recommend for longevity, and they'll
go through the they'll go through them and they're sitting
there and then they'll say and the number one thing

(36:01):
is whatever I don't know, and you can purchase it
using my link below on Amazon. And it's like okay, y'all.
And then when you go to the feed, it's the
same video over and over and over and over again.

(36:23):
But and they might change the shirt. It's the same person,
the same video, they saying the same thing, and they
just keep reposting this video. And so imagine how much
money these people are making because people are falling for
this and they're saying, oh my god, I gotta go
buy this product that the doctor said is the number
one thing that's going to make me live forever. Right.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
I did buy the doll.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
And it is like it helps like with like give
you I feel that helps give me a RESTful sleep.
Oh okay, yeah, yeah, control corizone levels or something supposedly.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
Yeah, right right, that's what the AI doctor told you.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
Yes, let me tell you who's.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Does not have AI's earn Nick Cannon al Pacino. He
didn't impregnate it the girl again. Okay, you know, at
the age of eighty two that he's expecting his fourth
child with his twenty nine year old girlfriend.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
Wow, it's fine, it's not AI. His firm is real.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
Damn. Yes, that's wild. Okay. What is more wild the
fact that he had eighty two is impregnating someone, or
the fact that a twenty nine year old is allowing
him to put his penis in them, Like what.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
Well, okay, so do we think the penis is Well,
obviously he needs a viagra. But I heard recently that
there's a pump. Have you seen this or heard this?

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Well, I feel like I've heard something like that.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
Yes, yes, So do we think it's Viagara or pump.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
It's probably both, Yeah, it's probably I need okay, we
need eighty two year olds to chime in. Let us know.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
Let even I tell eighty two year olds listen to
a podcast.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
I don't do we have any gold diggers listening that
that that that sleep with eighty two year olds? Can
you chime in and tell us what's going on?

Speaker 2 (38:27):
I always say for gold diggers, like you really got
to think about the gold that you want to dig, okay,
because not all gold is bright and shiny.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
That comes with a lot.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
Yeah, and it comes with a lot. You gotta laugh
at all their jokes. They're not funny. You gotta do
with like these long these I'm sure he's got some long,
wrinkly balls. Like do you write that in your life
or your right your mouth? Do you want to?

Speaker 2 (38:57):
But listen, we don't know anything about this woman. This
might be her best case scenario for I don't know,
living her best life.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
Who knows?

Speaker 1 (39:07):
Yeah, I mean, hey, she's sacrificing, she's taken, she's she's
taking one for the team.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Well, no, not really, rob because like let's be clear,
let's say he lives to be one hundred. Okay, you
just got to deal with his bad jokes for another twenty.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Years and then you go, oh my god, oh my gosh. Right,
And that was not the plan. That was not the plan.
The plan was like, okay, you might have a good
four years left outo, and then you got it and
then you stuck for twenty Oh.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
No, listen, I believe that his non AI sperm will
be around for another twenty years because he has enough
money to.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
Make sure that he's eating healthy. He's going to all
the time. He gonna be around for a long time.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
Right, that's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true. And hey,
I mean I don't know. He might he might be
in like a little extra good shape considering I don't know.
And I do feel like older men when they have
younger kids, especially if they're active in the younger kids lives,
that can help prolong their longevity. Just keeps them active,
keeps them moving, you know.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Yes, yeah, I want to I want to talk briefly because,
like I said, I was, I'm in St. Barts and
there's you know, all kinds of Tom Brady's and Mike
Tyson's and everybody just walking and you see them.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
All over the place.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
But I was intrigued because I was driving and walking
right in front of me was Beasos' wife. Oh but
that's not what intrigued me. Okay, that thing got security
like I ain't never seen.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
And so I'm gonna say, what was she by herself?
That's what I'm gonna say. Oh, okay, Okay, she had
one in front, Okay.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
And then it was her.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
And the reason why I noticed it was her because
I saw the security. I saw the ear piece in
his ear. Okay, this ear piece is somebody some so
let me see. I see the earpiece.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
Then I see her, and she looks much better in
person as I think.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
We all do. Okay, Okay, okay, but she needs to
look a little extreme.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
Yes, she needs to leave her lips alone, Okay, I
will say that, But she's not. She's a pretty woman.
She's not the that means.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
And then I think she had like some kids with her,
but they were kind of like behind her. They were
like paying attention to themselves.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
And then she had two in the back.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
So yeah, like so she had she had three total
or four?

Speaker 3 (41:40):
She had three? She had three. Now I don't know
whether or not she had three because she had the
kids with her, so we need more. I don't know.
I didn't even have children. I don't even know where
these kids came from.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
It just needn matter. But do you would you want
that to be her every day?

Speaker 1 (41:59):
Listen?

Speaker 3 (42:01):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (42:07):
Yes, if that means if that means that I'm married
to a billionaire that's not eighty two. Yes, because you
look good, right, he looks good now. He used to
be a little geeky when he first started out, but
he looks good now. So yes, I will take the
Ford security that's fine, and make them look good so

(42:29):
I can look at him.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
Yes, yes, yes, we were at we were getting Yesterda
a couple of days ago.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
And so it's my table on the table next to us, well,
at the table too over was a family and the
table next to us was like the security guards were
sitting at that table.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
Right, what can figure out? Is this the hotel security?
Is this a person of security? I need to know,
you know, I see security. I didn't even know what's happening.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
Who is yes?

Speaker 1 (42:59):
Who is the package?

Speaker 5 (43:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (43:01):
So I figured out that they were for this gentleman
and his family. Okay, Rob and I never seen this
man day in my life. I don't even know who
was not like a celebrity or entertainer.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
He had four security Wow, they had shifts. They were
one was going to the bathroom, another one would pop up.
I mean it was like, whoa do.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
You think he was like the head of a cartel
or something like?

Speaker 3 (43:28):
He was a white man. He's cartels are normally.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
No, the cartels are usually in like Colombia or yes, Mexico.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
So white man probably Trump's best friend.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
I don't know really, Okay, I don't know, but it it.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
What intrigued me though, was the fact that he was
not recognizable to me, and he had all the security
because typically when you see all the security, it's a
celebrity because and the security is because people are.

Speaker 3 (43:59):
Going to come up to them and they just like
to be bothered. They want to live their best life.
So yeah, I was a dreating.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
You should have you should have snuck a photo and
then you could have done like a Google reverse image search.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
I could have, I would, and if I cared, But
I was intrigued as much as I cared, which was yeah,
which was girls, do y'all know what this is?

Speaker 1 (44:21):
And they had no clue either, right, see, I see,
I would have been like I probably would have been
intrigued to the point where I'm like, I gotta find out,
so I'm gonna look it up. Yeah, okay, before we
move on, family he had, Yeah, I would. I would
love to know. I mean, because I mean, I'm sure
he's probably extremely rich and you know, somebody knows who
he is. So all right, before we end, before we

(44:43):
move on, can we talk about Mega manage our girl?

Speaker 3 (44:50):
What happened? I just what happened?

Speaker 1 (44:54):
What happened in NICKI minajh? Why is she Mega? Now?

Speaker 3 (44:57):
I don't understand. I don't I don't know. Is this
for a paycheck? I don't understand.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
I don't either. My only thing, like my thought process
is like, okay, I know she had been maybe feeling
I don't she had she had issues with the music industry,
and we saw her kind of like, you know, talking
a lot online about whatever negative experiences or feeling she
has towards people in the industries and whomever. I think

(45:27):
she's feeling, you know, isolated, ostracized, I don't know. And
maybe this was an organization or a group of people
that welcomed her or reached out to her or made
her feel important, and I don't know, but I was
very disappointed to see Nicki Minaje at the Turning Point

(45:49):
USA event and the things that she was saying and
just very confused.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
I was as well, and that it made me so.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Then right after that, the Dave Chappelle spesshal came out, right, yeah,
and have you seen it yet?

Speaker 3 (46:07):
I have, Okay, So it made me feel like those
things what Dave Chappelle did was necessary because.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
I don't I want everybody to live in their truth
and I don't want you to ever be in a
situation in which you feel compromised or you feel like
you have to compromise yourself.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
So I felt like whatever was going on with Nicky,
Dave made it right. Does that make sense?

Speaker 1 (46:38):
I mean, yeah, he bounced it out for sure. Yeah,
but it still doesn't make it.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
It's very strange because I don't think that that was
her stance.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
It wasn't, No, it wasn't. There's like videos of her
saying negative things about you know, Donald Trump and whatever
was going on, just the whole maga of it all,
and so she was vocal before about you know, maybe
even their stance on like the transgenders and whatever it

(47:11):
might be. And it's like wow, considering her audience is
made up a lot of you know, the gay community,
the transgender community, she's always shown love and you know,
made them feel accepted. To see that she's siding with
pretty much the ops now, it's like it's shocking, it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
And to be honest with you, I thought it was Ai.
That was one thing. I thought it was a right,
you were hoping it was Ai. I said this could
be right, right, Yeah, I'm like, what has happened?

Speaker 1 (47:44):
And so I see that supposedly she deactivated her Instagram
after losing ten million followers, and so my thought is like,
I don't think she's like hiding, but I think that's
how you prevent from losing more followers. Like, yeah, I
got your Instagram, I.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
Do, I do. I would love to know what was
that paycheck?

Speaker 1 (48:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (48:04):
Just that check?

Speaker 1 (48:05):
Yeah? Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
Okay, before we go, I do want to shout out this.
A preacher hasn't stopped me dead in my tracks in
a very long time. I mean not not Lord me
clean this up in all, okay from what is coming
out of his mouth.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
Okay, so this is preacher.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
I don't know his first name. His last name is Chapman.
He's out of Detroit and he is preaching the word
of God. He is running this Bible down.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
What did he say this?

Speaker 3 (48:39):
This is what he looks like an old clip, but
he just out here killing it, just killing it. What
is he saying?

Speaker 5 (48:52):
Whatever God has ever done has always been for his glory.
He tells the sun rays to kiss water droplets as
they fall from crime clouds, to push the dust of
a crime and touch to that. He took dust, which
is the leftover from dirt and made a man, took
a man and made a woman, and took a woman.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
And a man and made hay man.

Speaker 5 (49:16):
And he rocked that man and woman to sleep last
night and washed over your halfway saying amen sept and
then touched you this morning and walked you up to
see a brand new day for Here's glory.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
He's just breaking down the Bible. You know, God woke
you up this morning and every day in your life,
you just need to be grateful and thankful. That's all.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
That's all I received that. Speaking of pastors, I know
you don't want to talk about it, but I'm gona
talk about it. I don't see nothing wrong with Jamal's
wife's dress. Did you see the all the discourse online? Yes,
I don't see anything wrong with that dress.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
It was fine. Yes, this is the thing.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
You know, people gonna have their commentary one way or
the other, and you would think you would not feed
into the commentary pasta that part.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
So her dress was fine.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
But like if people going to have, you know, say
whatever they want to say, let's just not feed into it.
That's all. Yeah, that part, because that's that's when you
make it necessary bigger than it is.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
Yeah, you bring you bring more attention to it, for sure,
But I also think, I don't know, I'm just like
it was an unnecessary discussion period. Yeah, so just leave
it alone. But you know it was made a moment
for sure, or maybe like use a different platform for that,
Like I don't know that Sunday service is a place

(50:39):
to talk about agreed, agreed and dress.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
I'm not going to tell him anywhere to say whatever
he has to say. But it was a Bible study moment, right.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
Not which is on not on Sunday, you know, let's
see Sunday for the Word of the Lord.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Yes, because I didn't see the connection to the Word
of the Lord. You know. Sometimes it's like sometimes it's
like they talk, you know, they might talk about something
current event that's going on, and they bring it full
circle to the word of the Lord. But I missed
that one. I missed it. So anyway, if y'all don't
know we're talking about, you can google Jamal Bryant's wife's

(51:19):
dress and you'll see what we're talking about. But people
had issue with the dress that his wife had on.
I didn't find an issue with it. It was fine.
It was like a It was more of like a
nude overlay that people, I think assume was like see through.
And I think that's when the discourse like someone who
just didn't realize what they were looking at. They were mad.
They thought that she was wearing some sheer dress and

(51:40):
was really nude. But yeah, whatever, she looked good.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
Yes, I thought it was totally appropriate. Yes, anyway, that
is our show. Put to today. That is our episode.
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Betrayal Season 5

Saskia Inwood woke up one morning, knowing her life would never be the same. The night before, she learned the unimaginable – that the husband she knew in the light of day was a different person after dark. This season unpacks Saskia’s discovery of her husband’s secret life and her fight to bring him to justice. Along the way, we expose a crime that is just coming to light. This is also a story about the myth of the “perfect victim:” who gets believed, who gets doubted, and why. We follow Saskia as she works to reclaim her body, her voice, and her life. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at betrayalpod@gmail.com. Follow us on Instagram @betrayalpod and @glasspodcasts. Please join our Substack for additional exclusive content, curated book recommendations, and community discussions. Sign up FREE by clicking this link Beyond Betrayal Substack. Join our community dedicated to truth, resilience, and healing. Your voice matters! Be a part of our Betrayal journey on Substack.

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Dateline NBC

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