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January 12, 2026 48 mins

Gizelle and Robyn discuss hitchhiking, going "commando", Sprinkles Cupcakes, Puffy, AI hoaxes, Mariah Carey, Luther, Karen, Mary Cosby, Traitors season 4, actors in politics, John Harbaugh, and more!   

      

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Reasonably Shady, a production of The Black Effect
Podcast Network and iHeartRadio. Welcome to another episode of Reasonablease Shadycky.
I am Gizelle, but I ain't. What's that? What's up?
I'm Robin Dixon. Thank you for being here with us

(00:21):
once again. Yes, yes, yes, yes, appreciate you guys for
being here as always, as always, and we are all
up into the new year.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
It's like halfway through January, like, what's going on? What's happening?

Speaker 1 (00:35):
I know it's it's yeah. I mean I feel like
we say this every single week, like how do we
get here? But yes, yes, time is flying by. You
have a shady moment, you know, it's so crazy. I'm
sitting here and I'm like we're just talking. I'm like,

(00:57):
oh shit, I didn't think about my shady moment. Okay, several,
So you have first, you have Okay, you go first,
and I'll see if I have something.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Okay, Okay, I have a couple of moments from last
when I was in the St. Bart's, my same Bart's trip, Okay,
I have one from me coming home. Okay, so in St.
Bart's it's a very friendly island.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
So but you know, you need a car to get around,
and sometimes I guess people don't have cars, so they're
out and they're hitch hiking, which you know, you really
don't see hitchhikers anymore, right.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Hitch hiking. Yeah, so if you're hitchhiking, you're like standing
on the corner, like with your thumb up and you're like,
you know, waiting for somebody to pick you up. And
you're like, yeah, wait, So.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
I'm driving by one of them, and I drove by
and then he was like and he put his thumb down, So.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
The kids were like, hey, put his thumb down. I want.
Was absolutely hilarious, but shady hilarious. Number two. Okay, okay, wait,
so it's common practice for people to just pick hitch
hikers up. Oh oh, I wouldn't know.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
I mean, I mean, I guess they get picked up
because they keep doing it. But like you might see,
I was there for ten days. I might have seen
three hitchhikers, but to see one is like whoa.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
And so do they are they like residents or there
are people who are like visiting.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
It seemed like they were workers, like they were, well, yeah,
so they're residents and they're trying to probably get to
the other side of the island. And there aren't ubers,
there aren't taxis are few and far between. Never seen
a bus, so I guess it's their only.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Oh that's interesting. Well at least they didn't give you
a middle finger. I mean, I'll take a thumbs down
over the middle finger. Okay.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
So we're walking to dinner one night and I have
on this beautiful dress and we parked in kind of
like a crazy place and in order, and so they
were looking at navigation to like walk to the to
the restaurant, and a door was like.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Oh, let's go this back way. So I was like cool.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
And the back way was just like kind of like
a mountain, but it had steps on them, right, So,
but the steps are like not necessarily equal. There's like
one step that's like, you know, a foot. There's one
step that's like two inches, the next step it's like feet.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
I mean it's weird. Okay, we know you fell all
up and down them steps. So I fell, right, No,
not only did my phone, my legs were in the air, Like,
oh no, wait, did you tumble? Did you tumble down
the steps or trips? Legs in the air. Courchy out,

(03:43):
I have on no panties. Oh my god? Oh were
there pistol around? Were there people around? There's nobody around,
thank god. And I guess the shady person is me,
for I haven't on any panties that part. I mean,

(04:04):
that is that common? You do that a lot. I
It's very funny because the longer I spend with Ashley Darby,
the more I don't wear pants, which is very crazy
because she when we first met her, she had on
no panties for you, right right?

Speaker 2 (04:21):
So I just yeah, I really don't wear them that often,
and now actually wears panties.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Oh wow.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Okay, yeah, a little switch through, but yeah, I like
to be footloose and fancy.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Free really okay, yeah, I can't do it for just
for reasons, I just can't. Yeah, my thighs rub like
I don't know, it's just not comfortable, like okay, okay, yeah,
but that's don't have anything to do which panties, but
I don't. Sometimes I get a little sweaty down there,

(04:54):
you know what I'm saying, because of rubbing, you know,
And then it's like I need I need my panties
to absorb my sweat because it's tam I for the men,
but I'm just it's just no, can't do it. But yeah,
you've you've tripping up the steps down the steps. Is
not a surprise at all, if not not surprised at all.
But I think I want to ask the ladies like

(05:16):
do you wear panties? Like is that still something that
people are doing? I want to yet? No, right, okay, fine, yes,
let's put out a pole. Do you wear panties or
do you not wear panties? And then and how old
are you? I think I think it's an age thing,
like how old are you? Right? Well, how is it
an age thing? Because you you said you just started

(05:39):
not wearing panties right right? And actually and Ashley has
started wearing panties. I don't even see how it was
an age thing at this point.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Now it's like, yeah, true, so yeah, let us know
if panties are your thing or not.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
And if you do wear panties sometimes, when do you
wear them? And when do you not wear them? Or
if you sometimes don't wear them, when do you not
wear Yeah?

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yes, just like right now I have on no panties
and I'm totally fine with that.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Really, what do you have on? Leggings, sweatpants. It's like
a whole like catsuit, like a whole bodysuit like legs. Okay,
so yeah, no panties, no panties. Okay, I can't do that.
I cannot do it. It would there there would be
a whole sweat line in the middle of my butt crack.

(06:25):
Like really, I mean not that I'm I just feel
like maybe I would just not I'm not like sweaty
like that, but I just feel like you just never know. Okay, Okay,
well this is my last shady situation. Okay, So I
come home and I went I went to my.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Esthetician, so I have to I'm in Georgetown, right if
you're in DC, I'm in Georgetown. And I passed by Sprinkles.
Sprinkles is closed, yeah, and I closed down. I did
a little something came up on my phone. They're closed
all over the country.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
The business is over. Yes, they shut right. Yes.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Sprinkles cupcakes which in my estimation and I feel like
I am a cupcake kind of sore. Yeah, they're better
than Georgetown cupcake. You think is better than here, we
have something called baked and wired. They were the best
cupcakes I've ever had. Okay, you think so best.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Yes, I don't know. I couldn't. I couldn't really pick
a best I couldn't really pick like, I don't know.
I never had any of those cupcakes where I was like, Okay,
this is the best cupcake. Actually some of them. I
would say, the best cupcake I've ever had was probably
like a home baker, like a woman that brought cupcakes,

(07:46):
and I'm like, Okay, this is the best. But I mean,
I think it's a sign of the times. I guess maybe.
But it's Georgetown. All the other ones are still open,
they're the business is shut down. It's over. No no,
no, no no, I'm saying, like George Town Cupcake is still
open and baked and Wire is still open. Yes, correct, Okay.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
And what's even crazy is for whatever reason, like people
still stand in line at Georgetown Cupcakes.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
And George Oh crazy, Okay, that's crazy. Yeah, that's crazy,
very angry. I don't understand it. I was a Sprinkles girl,
and Sprinkles used to have these like little cakes, like
you can get the cake into like a little cake.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yellow cake, chocolate frosted was like my favorite. And it's
gone ropping, it's.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Gone yeah, yeah, I did hear that. I heard Sprinkles
were shutting down, But I mean, to be honest, I'm
surprised that all of those cupcake places are still open.
I just feel like sometimes you have like like a
not a fad, but like maybe like a trend, and
cupcake shops were really trendy for a minute, and then
you know, stuff just kind of like people fall off
of it, they become less excited about it, and so

(08:57):
I'm surprised that these cupcake places still have lines and yeah,
whatever they'd be, Crumble has taken over. Are they Are
they still good? Because I feel like every week it's
like someone talking about Crumble as chemicals bad Trumble, this
Crumble that crumbles horrible. But there's total Ascar. They're making

(09:21):
it through. We haven't been in a while because we
used to go when Corey switched school, so his previous
school there was a Crumble nearest school, but now there's
not one anywhere near like anywhere I go. So we
haven't been in a while, but I know you you
still go.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
I haven't been in a minute, because my I go,
you know, this is my kids. I haven't been in
a minute, So that's probably good. Okay, yeah, okay, have
you thought of the moment?

Speaker 1 (09:49):
I mean, it's not really shady. But the other night,
I h Carter and I were in the house by
ourselves because one and Corey were on the road. They
were in Tennessee for basketball. So it was like three
in the morning, maybe three four in the morning, and
I was dreaming. But then I was suddenly like startled

(10:10):
out of my sleep, like awakened out of my sleep.
And I wasn't sure if it was in the dream
or if it was like in real life, but it
was like a big like noise right in the middle
of the night, three four in the morning, and I'm like, like,
what is happening? So I'm laying there, I'm thinking about like, Okay,
do I know the password to the safe? Like where

(10:31):
the gun is? Like do I to do I know? Yes,
we have a gun? Is that's new? Or you always
had a gun? No? No, no, We've always had one. We've
always had it, Yes, always had it. I've never I've
never touched it. It's locked up in a safe and
I have like we do need to go like practice

(10:53):
with it, like I've never but I've never touched it.
Like but I do need to practice with it. And
one got it like years ago when he was in
the NBA because he would he traveled so much, I mean,
and he was just like, you need we need a
gun in the house so that if anything happens. But
I'm like, I've never even like touched this gun. I
won't even know what to do with the gun. Right.
So anyway, I'm in the I'm just in them in

(11:14):
the bedroom like, oh my gosh, Like what's the combo
to the safe? Like what do I do? Should I
go grab this gun and hide in the closet? Like anyway,
So I'm like laying there scared. So the noise didn't
happen like it was. I waited a little while and
then the noise happened again, So then I'm really scared.
I'm like holy shit. So I called Carter. I'm like, Carter,

(11:36):
are you awake?

Speaker 3 (11:37):
And he was like yes, And I'm like, did you
hear that noise? He was like yes, I'm scared. I'm like,
oh no, I'm like what.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
I'm like, I don't know what to do. He was like,
can you can you come out in the hallway and look?
And I'm like, look, what am I going to do, like,
what do you mean, come look? So I walk out
in the and he comes out. He meets me in
the hallway and it's like nothing, there's like no movement right. Oh.
And then I'm like looking on my cameras because I
have cameras, I'm looking on my alarm activity like there's

(12:11):
no movement in the house. I'm like, what is happening?
So then finally I look in my laundry room because
my laundry room is right next to my bedroom, and
two things had fallen off the shelfs about like the
shelf above and it fell on top of the washing machine.
I don't know why it fell. I don't know how

(12:32):
it fell, like nothing, there was nothing going on to
make it fall only there. I think it's maybe it's
like vibration from using the washing machine earlier in the
day and it just like shifted this stuff. But it
was like two things had fallen and I guess at
separate times to make this noise. And I was like,
I mean, so I was like super relieved, but we

(12:53):
were like so scared. And then Carter was like, I
think that that must be Dad's mom, because one likes
to say his mom likes to come into house and
do things. Yes, yes, so so wanted. So Carla's like,
tell tell dad his mom was here, his mom visited us.
But yeah, that was like that was just scary. I
was so free and I'm thinking through my head like

(13:16):
what Like, I'm just like what do I do? And
I'm like, you know, so thank god it was nothing,
but whoa right who I'm surprised you told me on
and be like, why here's somebody now I know, I know, right,
but what could he do? Like I guess, yeah, ain't

(13:37):
nothing he could do. I mean, my first call should
have been not on one. He could yell at the person.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
Right and be like wow, yeah, yeah, that definitely would
have Oh they definitely want to heard him and left.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Okay, So I do want to talk about the fact
that Trump has denied, denied, denied.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Puffy getting out of jail, and I saw that. I
means clothes mouths don't get fed. But so I'm not
mad at Puffy for for asking. However, I wonder, like
I wonder why, I wonder why he he wouldn't give

(14:31):
him the pardon. I think didn't they.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
I think Puffy did talk bad about him at some point, right,
like the second time.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
He probably wasn't supportive of him.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah, I think he wasn't supportive. I don't know who knows,
who knows what the reason is. Maybe I don't know
he knows, that Donald knows somebody that was on the tapes?

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Who knows who knows? But now I didn't know or
I was unaware. I think we all like.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Just forgot that La Reid has a sexual assault trial.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
That starting next week and John Legend will be testifying.
What are we going to go through all this again?
Puffy Trial Part two? Like what is happening? Really? I
didn't know. I didn't know that he was charged with
anything or not charged, or I didn't know anyone he's

(15:31):
facing a lawsuit? Like what's the background on that? Is
this from a woman? Like? Why is donifying? I uh okay.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
It says that John Legends expected to testify during the proceedings.
This involvement is tied to Dixon's clam Who's Dixon?

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Drew Dixon.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
The lawsuit stems from allegations made by former record exec
Drew Dixon, who worked with Read and claims that he
sexually assaulted her while they've worked together at Arista in
the early two thousands. So maybe John Legend, because I

(16:15):
would assume John Legend is signed to the label. Maybe
he was around something, maybe he saw something. I don't know,
but that's wild. Also, just this just a funny moment
there was Did you see that Laker reporter, the girl
with the purple dress on who found Hey, that's that's AI.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
It's not real, it's nothing. Yeah, it was like his
bang because yeah, that's AI. I believe that's AI. I
also believe yes people and people also said that your
video of Erica Kirk flipping on the stage was AI. Really? Yes? Again,

(17:00):
that thing looked real to me, And I know that's
that's the problem with AI. All this stuff looks real.
It's so crazy. O. Wait. That doesn't take away the
fact that Erica Kirk has a very funny way mourning
well yes, and grieving her husband. Yes. And and they
do have like like fireworks and all that type. I

(17:21):
know that they do like some crazy fireworks and stuff
during those But but her flipping around that was a
I too. It's the AI is out of control, Like
we really need I don't know how we're gonna get
a handle on that. And I really am scared for
like older people who really can't like who might get

(17:43):
tripped a lot. You know, I feel like this will
be a really bad way for scammers to scam people
using AI. So oh, totally, totally, we gotta we gotta
get that fixed. Rock hinges out are real, right right,
this is a real conversation, no conversations and to pinch myself. Okay, Okay,

(18:04):
So I have a question. I saw this post on
Instagram and it's a dinner table. I don't know have
you've seen this? The dinner table full of all these musicians,
right legends, and it says who at this table needs
to get up for Mariah Carey to have a seat? Okay,
run it down. Let me tell you. Let me tell

(18:26):
you who's at the table, all right. There are nine
people at the table, all right, So Mary J. Blige,
Stevie Wonder, Aretha Franklin, Beyonce, Michael Jackson, Janet Jackson, h

(18:47):
Luther Vandross, Marvin Gay and Whitney Houston. So who are
you telling to get up and leave the table so
that Mariah Carey can have a seat. I know who
mine is? Okay, So I have two I think it's
a toss up between Luther. No, not a wait, I'm

(19:15):
not done. I'm not done. It's a toss up between
three people.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Luther only because like Luther had the hits of the hits,
love Luthor to death. But I think if he let
lived longer or I just feel like his his his
repertoire of.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Music was not long not not.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
Okay, I'm a Paul too, I'm a Paul saying it. Okay, Okay,
between that, number two would be.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Janney Jackson. Mm hmmm, that's mine. That's my looking ask.
I agree with that, yes, yes, And then number three
no more.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Mary j Yes, I think Mariah would have to sit
before Mary.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
I hate to say it, but that's what I think. Yeah,
but their neck and neck, it's so no, no, you
know what, they're not neck and neck because the way
that Mariah sings, because if we're talking about just is
up there with like Whitney Houston. Oh yeah, yeah yeah,

(20:32):
Maria Utuly, that's not Mary. Mm hmmm. No, right, So yeah,
I think it's Mary. Mary. Okay. It's so I only
wanted to pick one, but you went and just insulted everybody. Luther, Mary, Janet.
But so I disagree with you on Luther, totally agree

(20:53):
with you on Janet. Janet, I just she was She's
a good entertainer. She had some good songs, but she
just for me, wasn't a very strong performer or a
very She wasn't like a strong artist. I wouldn't call
her a legend in I don't know what genre would
she be. She's not really R and B. I guess

(21:14):
R and B pop whatever. I wouldn't give her legend status.
And Mary Jay I feel like in I wouldn't want
her to get up, like I wouldn't want to get up. No, yeah,
I would not. Yeah, but yeah it had to go.

(21:36):
I think, I think you have to go. But I
still stand by Luther doesn't have a large body of work.
He doesn't, but I don't. But the thing is, h
I feel like you could say the same thing for
Marvin Gaye.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Yeah, no, you're right, he doesn't. It was before his time,
I think musically before his time.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Right Luther. I mean, even though he doesn't have a
large body of work, he has an amazing body of
work in my opinion, Like I can throw on a
Luther playlist and just like there and know that, like
there's never ever ever going to be anyone that sings
like him, Like as close as Ruben Stuttard tried to

(22:20):
get like he just he couldn't get there. You know
what I'm saying. He's still out there singing, He's still
doing his thing, he really is.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Ruby got skinny, and I think that something happened to
the because you know, he has right whole thing down,
and then he got skinny, ruper.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
It's like, you ain't Luther. Well, he was Skenny Luther.
Remember Remember Luther was Skenny Luther, fat Luther, big Luther.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
So that's that's just that's just when it went left
for me, it went left. Now, did you did you
ever hear Luther live?

Speaker 1 (22:55):
No? Okay, I went to a Luther concert and that
was a little date that my little on back in
and Luther can saying yes, sang yes, yes, yes. I
know you watched Mary Cosby, which I haven't been able
to get to yet. Oh, by the way, by the way,

(23:17):
and I can say this because it's been all over
to social media. I just came back from filming Season
ten of the Real Housewives of Potomac Your reunion congratulations,
Yes on the tenth season ten reunion. Wow.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yes, And it was a bit of a I don't
want to say celebratory, you know, season two.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
I mean it's a milestone, it should be.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
We you know, we did talk about some things that
have happened, like over the past ten years a decade.
It's like wow, but you know, we did see Karen
Karen that the grand dog got to come back and.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Grace her us with her presence. Okay, I know you
can't really say a whole lot, but I was like,
was she more there? I assume she wasn't getting questioned
the way everyone else gets questioned. Well, that's then it
already happened. Oh right, right.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
And I can say this because it was in like
a clip that Andy does go to her home and
and that's a that's an episode, like they talk and
he questions her pretty intensely just about where she is
with her whole journey, and so we didn't I don't
think he want to do that again, so so heavily.

(24:33):
But yeah, he had a lot of questions for her,
for sure, because time has passed since then, so maybe
that was four months ago.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Yeah, And I can tell and I saw her when
she first got out, and I can tell that there's
a big difference between then and now, like she's she's solid.
I feel like she's at a great place, I do. Okay,
all right, good, yeah, so I know another folks will
be excited to see that.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yes, just happy that she's in a safe space, you know.
And I told you this, like when she went away,
I was just highly concerned for her safety. Oh yeah,
but so you know, to know that she's back home
and in her bed is a great thing. And she
did say that that she calls it. The county wanted.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
To make sure that's safe, and you know that they
they played a big emphasis on her well being, so
you know, and it wouldn't have on anyone had something
happening to Karen, right right, yeah, yeah, all right, that's good. Oh.
By the way, somebody did correct us on the difference

(25:43):
between jail and prison. I think we used the way
is it jail all the time. So jail is used
before you're convicted, so it's like while you're like waiting
for your trial or while you're on trial, like so
before you're convicted. Then once you're convicted and you are
going you are sentenced, then you are in prison. I

(26:05):
don't think that's true. That's what they said. That's what
I was saying.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
I thought I thought it was a difference in the
facility that you went to, Like there's state.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Oh, I guess so state prison, federal prison. I guess
it's all prison. Yeah. So it's like like prison is
once you've been sentenced and you're you're like there for
like however long years or whatever. Okay, for your time.
You're there for your time.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yeah, okay, Well so unfortunately we have some other people
that we know that are going to be able to
talk about that anyway, move on, moving on. Okay, So
I've been wrapped up in what I was doing that.
You said you saw Mary Cosby Special, right, Oh, yes, yeah,
so I watched the I'm going to watch it.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
You're gonna watch it. Okay. So I watched the documentary
about Mary Cosby on TLC. It's about Mary Cosby and
her church and it's about what is it called the
the Cult of a How Real Housewife or something? Yeah,
So you know, it's kind of interesting. It just I
don't want to like give away everything, but it just

(27:12):
kind of reminded me how short people's memories are. Because
when Mary was on Salt Lake City. Like the first
two seasons, they kind of touched on it, you know,
they touched on her church and how you know it
was like a cult. And then one of the guys,
one of her ex church members, came around and said,

(27:36):
I guess they had some type of relationship. And the
man ends up passing away, and then Mary like disappeared
from Housewives, right, and then she I feel like she
was gone for like was she gone for two She gone?
She was gone for that one season and maybe came
back as a friend and then came back as a housewife.

(27:57):
She's been a housewife again the past two seas, right, Yeah. Yeah,
So it's just very interesting because it was like people
kind of never got answers on that because remember she
didn't go to their reunion and yeah, so so she's
never really addressed what has gone on in her church
or if it's a cult or all of the accusations

(28:20):
that have come out about her church, and she kind
of has been able to like skate by without addressing it,
and people have forgotten. And now it's like, you know,
the viewers love her, like, you know, they she was
kind of enemy number one when she was on the
show because of the things that she would say and
the things about the church and things about the cult stuff,
and then then she wasn't on and then she came

(28:43):
back and it was like none of that ever happened.
So this doctortionary's currently like today she still does she
have this church today? She's stilly so that I couldn't
They really didn't address that because it was like pictures,

(29:06):
it was supposed to be going through some renovations, and
it's like almost as if the renovations never happened. So
I don't know what the status of the church today is,
or what the status of even her marriage, because that
seemed kind of shaky, like she just has gotten away
with being able to not talk about it, and even
like I think, but what about the documentary did they

(29:29):
say so they were digging all that stuff back up?
I'm just saying watching the documentary, it just reminded me
how short people's memories are because it's like, okay, none,
because none of this stuff was like some of it
was new, but a lot of it it's not. It
wasn't new that anyone accused Mary Cosby of running a cult,
right or her church of being a cult. It's very

(29:51):
interesting that, like all of her fat I don't say
about all of her family members, a large number of
her family members no longer associate with her, which I've
find interesting and strange. I do think Mary maybe took
the time to kind of clean up her act and

(30:12):
her reputation and try to like put all of that
behind her so that she could be a housewife, like
I think. Me. I don't know why. I don't know
how she was able to do it, but I do
think that she prioritized being a housewife over saying in
the church. And I do think the church gives off

(30:35):
cult vibes, but I don't know if I would completely
call it a cult. Okay, So from the documentary, do
you feel like there was any criminal behavior, like anything
criminal happened? No, Okay. It was just more like immoral

(30:55):
like abuse of power, manipulating people, having people think that like, oh,
I'm going to get to heaven if I like worship
these people, you know, if I worship Mary and Robert whatever,
like using that to kind of have leverage over people

(31:16):
and power over people, and then of course in order
to get money from them. But I don't think there
was any illegal activity I think it was more of
just people just became brainwashed and were kind of fell
deep into the church and believing that if they follow

(31:37):
Mary and Robert that they're going to heaven. So okay,
well do you recommend, okay, take Housewives out of it?
Do you recommend it? Is it a good watch?

Speaker 2 (31:50):
I'm gonna watch you regardless?

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Yeah, Yeah, I thought I found it interesting. I found
it interesting. She definitely has an interesting story of like
how she even got to be, you know, the wife,
how she got to marry her step grandfather. It was
very interesting to see. And then I just found it
interesting to see that this black church existed in exists

(32:16):
in Salt Lake City. Yeah. Did you see her at
this one this Bravo con? I do? Yeah? Yeah, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
I chatted with her for like the first time ever
in this Bravo con I think I had this. Yeah,
this is the pers time I've actually met her. And
she seems super sweet, totally super sweet.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
She seems super sweet. She doesn't seem like remember her
first season she had this like she would just say
the most off the wall stuff. I just feel like
she's not She's still an interesting person, but I don't
think she does has the off the wall personality like
she used to. Okay, but yeah, no, she seemed like right,
she seems super sweet. I'm thinking maybe she just has

(33:00):
kind of adjusted her personality and changed, because now it's
like you're on a housewives show, Like you can't say
some of the things that she was saying to her parishioners,
like you know, like just you can't continue that up
and think that like nobody's going to like talk about

(33:22):
your business all the time, you know what I mean, Right,
so you've got to like really clean up your act.
You can't be like a straight up bitch or whatever. Yeah,
it's almost interesting. I thought it was, well you can,
but people are gonna put it out there. I mean,
but like I said, like people were trying to put
this stuff out there and then she disappears and then
it goes away. So it's like she doesn't want that attention,

(33:44):
so she's not going to do whatever it was she
was doing before. She definitely pulled back from it. Okay,
Well that's good, that's good to know. Yeah. Yeah, but
I don't think, well you'll ever hear from her to
like even explain anything that has gone on in the church.
I don't like, like, I feel like she must have
told the production like, yeah, if you want me back,

(34:06):
I'm not talking about my church and my husband is
not coming around. When that's smart, I mean it's smart.
If she can get away with it, then fine, like
if they if they go for it and they go
with it, then fine. Yeah, no, totally, totally.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Yeah, okay, and I know you saw Traders because Traders
is out?

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Season is this four? Season four? Four? What's okay? Now?

Speaker 2 (34:36):
I know you know we know the cast the cast
characters of Housewives is it's Portia and Durrenda.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
They let Derenda go back. I'm looking forward to seeing
what's her name? Lisa Rena? Uh huh Lisa Rena? Yes,
and a and a former girl from from my show right, yes,
there's five House five House and Caroline Stanbury.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Oh okay, okay, yeah, So do we feel like, okay,
go ahead.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Well do you want spoiler alerts? I mean, like, do
you want me to spoil it for you?

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Don't super spoil I mean I I do know that
portion doesn't last long, right, that would be the only
reason why I'm watching really like I thing I am
interested in seeing Mama Kelse okay, yeah, anybody else that's
like non Bravo.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Yes, well, okay, so for me out of the cast,
I was intrigued by Yes, Donna Kelcey, Travis Kelcey's mom.
I knew. I assume Michael Rappaport would be a mess. Oh, yes, yes,
I assumed you would be a mess, which he is.

(35:59):
Who by the way, he said he's running for mayor
of New York right next time, next election, next time. Yes,
But Michael, and I'm gonna say this because we didn't
met you, we know you you have zero political experience,
and we're not doing that again. We have a man
in the white House that has zero political experience. Didn't
Mandami have zero political experience? No? No, okay, I think so, okay,

(36:26):
I might be making that up, but we can't take
actors any more. Yeah. Well, I'm gonna tell Robert Port.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
We're saying that because of the person that's in the
White House, he has messed it up for any actor
actress to come behind that we're gonna get behind.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Not that I have a god who's in the white House.
The end. Well, I mean, you know, Trump's not the
first actor or entertainer to be in the White House,
Ronald Reagan when he was an actor. Then you had
Ronald Reagan. Yes, then you had Schwarzenegger, who was a
governor of California. You had what Jesse Ventura he was

(37:09):
like when you a former w w E wrestler. He
was the governor of Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Oh really, yes, all right, Well we can't have another
one rapport, so anyway, moving so enough enough already, all right.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
So Trader, Okay, So if y'all want, I don't. I
don't want to like spoiler for anyone, So spoiler alert.
If you don't want to listen to what we have
to say about Traders, then move on, all right. So, yes,
Michael Rappaport, I was interested in just seeing how he
would conduct himself. The ice skaters. I just thought that
was an interesting casting. That's Tara Lepinsky and Johnny Weir, okay, yes,

(37:47):
and they're yeah, and they're like friends. They would do
comment they would commentate together like ice skating, and I
just thought that I thought that was a very interesting casting.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
That's unfair because like when did Larsa and her boyfriend
Michael Jordan not Michael Mark mark Jordan's I felt like
that was unfair, Like they're a couple and when you
really they're gonna tell the other one.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Right, you would think they would have like come up
with like some sort of like signs or yeah, a
code to be like, okay, I'm a trader. Yeah that's
quite possible, but I would probably because of that, I
would just not make them traders, like not make either
one of them traders.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
If I'm there and I'm not a trader, I want
them both gone, just to alleviate that components.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
So I feel like it's a fair advantage. So they're
they're being very smart because they are like, Okay, we
know that we're close, we're ice skaters, but like we
don't want the rest of the group to see us
being close. So they're actually keeping their distance from each other.
Oh love that, Yeah, which is really smart. Yeah. I

(39:02):
don't know any of like the Survivor or Big Brother people.
There's a comedian guy, his name is Ron, who like
he has little like funny sound bites, and so I'm
kind of like interested in seeing how far he can
go because he is he has little funny moments. Funny, right,

(39:23):
So like okay, you want you want funny, you want
quirky around. Of course there's a drag queen monette, do
you know?

Speaker 2 (39:31):
No, Yeah, and I saw I saw her and never
I've never. I don't even think about them. Like I
did know who Black the Dragon was, but I don't
know this person.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Okay, all right, Okay, Money has a good personality, so
we'll see how far Money gets said. I don't want to.
I don't want to spoil it for you, but yes,
don't spoil it, okay, okay, portion of the last long
I think it's going to be an interesting season. I'll
say that overall, I think it'll be an interesting season.
They did have like little changes from when I was there,
so they it. They threw like little twists in already,

(40:03):
which I think is interesting. So it'll be interesting to
see what other twists they throw in, which I think
they probably will. Do you watch it and you're like
I want to be there? Or are you like I
don't want no parts because I've already DoD this. No,
I'm like you want to go from watching? No, I
want to. I'm like I want to go back, Like

(40:25):
I want to go back, put me in please, And
then of course I'm already back to like my couch
watching where I'm like, how do they not see that
person as a trader, Like, you know, it's so obvious,
how are they doing that? Blah blah blah blah. But
there was one there was one thing that I thought
was like super obvious that everyone else thought was super obvious,

(40:49):
and like they got it right away. I don't want
to spoil it for you, so okay, but it was
like a person. It was a person that I would
have made a trader, was a trader, and they like
they got her out early immediately, second episode, that second

(41:09):
round table. Yeah, okay, okay, this is good. Okay, I'm intrigued.
I'll definitely watch that. What's going on with Okay, are
we in basketball season or football seas? We're in football?
We're in football season. It's both. So it's football, NFL playoffs.
The NFL playoffs start this weekend. Well yeah, by the

(41:30):
time this airs, so it starts this weekend. Okay, So
there was I'm I'm in I was in New York.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
Yeah, and I was in the elevator and two very
old and when I say very old, like eighty five
year old men, white guys walk in the elevator and
they're like walking slow. They get into the elevator and
they start talking amongst themselves and they're like, you know,
what's the what was the coach of the Ravens.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Oh, John Harball. Yeah, they just so one says to the.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Other, oh, you know, they fired Hn like he's a
close personal friend. Oh no John, And the other guy
was like, yeah, I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
I've got a call. I don't know somebody else above John. Yeah,
the bottom of this this, I don't know what's you know.
They're just like limiting back and forth. Okay, apparently everyone's
limiting and didn't really want to see John go. No,
everyone's happy. No, everyone's rejoicing. I don't want to say

(42:31):
I don't want to say everyone. So John harp All
the coach of the Ravens. He's been there for eighteen
years and the past the past few years and he
and he was he was a great coach while it lasted.
But in the past few years it seemed like he
lost the locker room. Like it's just you just sometimes
need fresh voices, fresh you know, ideas, fresh energy, And

(42:56):
it seemed like in the past few years he lost
the locker locker room, and they needed a new leader,
they needed a new message, they needed just something new.
And so our family, okay, when we got the news
was rejoicing, like you know, we have family group chat,
we have Carter was in the middle of a game.
He had a basketball game and he was playing like shit,

(43:18):
and I was and I got the alert in the
middle of the game, and I was like, I was
this close to like running up to the sideline to
tell him that John Harbaugh was fired, like in hopes
that he would play better and hopes that he would
be like excited and play better. But I was like,
let me not, let me not be Yeah. Yeah, So

(43:40):
did he start playing better regardless, No, he played like
shit the whole game. So okay, yeah yeah, yeah yeah
so no. So a lot of Ravens fans are very
excited about Okay, so have they hired someone else? No, no, no,
not yet. That just happened like the other day. So
I think they they got to do their due diligens
and higher. They have like a losing season this season, right,

(44:04):
we did. We finished eight and eight and we did
not make the playoffs. So yes, tomato tomato, well, by
the way, finished eight and nine. No, I think we
finished eight and nine eight nine. Okay.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
By the way, so you know, you know how people
recap like through housewives, up a tomaker or married to medicine.
So there's this guy that, like, I guess he's he
doesn't care for gaseelle and that's fine, but anytime he
like talks about me, he's like, boo, tomato, tomato, tomato.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
I take it to my kids. I'm like, anytime they
do something like, I'm like, boom, tomato, tomato. But I
freaking love it. Okay, you love it. I want you
to keep doing it. I kind of don't want him
to like start liking somebody tomato and not tomatoes. Now,
I'm here for it. I am so here for It's

(44:59):
not a fact. I hope they don't cut it out.
I can say this spoiler alert. Yesterday at the reunion,
somebody said something. I said, boo, tomato, tomato.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
No you do not.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
Oh my god, Oh my god. I pray they do
not cut it out. Okay, No, you know they're not.
They're not gonna cut it out. And you know, even
if it if they don't use it in that moment,
they're gonna use it or they're gonna put it in
the trailer or something they're not cutting. But the guy
my kids said that years ago, like blue tomato tomato

(45:30):
is like old, like it's something that was on TikTok
like a while ago. Yeah, but I've just heard about it,
so you just heard towards me, and I love it.
So i'd been using I feel like that's never going
anywhere tomato tomato, like like that's it might be old,
but it's never going to like get old. Do you
know what I mean? Like yes, yes, boomtoace. Okay, So

(45:55):
now the guy's gonna love you because you're like you're
in a gonna love it. I hope this is not
a I okay, before we let y'all go, this is
the last thing. Maybe laugh.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
I pray to god this is not AI. But you know,
the people will let us know if it is or
if it isn't. So there's this woman that refused to
smile for forty.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
Years because she didn't want to say any lines in
her face. Okay, I heard that that's what Kim Kardashian does.
But okay, oh Willie, uh huh. But you can just
get filler or botax or something she tries to limit. Yeah,
you try to try to limit like she, You won't.
You'll very rarely see her like cheesing with a big smile.

(46:37):
Very well.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
This woman publicly claims she hasn't smiled or laughed for
to avoid facial wrinkles.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Okay, now she looks like a grandma instead. Wait wait,
what do you mean she looks like a grandma? I mean,
but how old is she's? See this woman is she
ought to be like sixty fifty. So you're saying it

(47:08):
didn't work. She doesn't really say how old she is,
but she says that.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
Even in big moments like her child's bury, because she
believes that avoiding facial expressions helps prevent wrinkles and keeps
her skin smooth.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
Oh my god, it didn't work for you, ma'am, It
did not for your crazy You can't right right. I
think looking unhappy makes you look older, Like, yeah, you
look miserable, so you're gonna look older. I can't really
see the picture that well, but.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
We're gonna put it. We're gonna put it on a
chat or whatever. We're gonna put those YouTube.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
So she just has permanent, resting bitch face permanent now
you look crazy.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
You and when you laugh, it brings youth to your
entire list, exactly laughing at and it's good for your soul.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
It's good for soul.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
So I would encourage everyone to laugh and to smile.
And if you have lines, it's called filler and botox.
Right then it's called glow thirty.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Get into it. Actually, yes, come get some treatments. All right.
That is our episode. We left well so much.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Don't ever forget to live your life either reasonable or shady.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
Or fight.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
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Speaker 1 (48:33):
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