March 24, 2026 • 41 mins
Drink Champs Network Presents: ROC Solid with Memphis Bleek.
This week on ROC Solid, we tappin’ in with none other than Mannie Fresh and Juvenile — Two architects of the Southern hip hop sound. Tap into their roots, the duo reflects on how their New Orleans upbringing shaped their music, hustle, and signature style that helped redefine the industry.
Mannie Fresh dives deep into his production genius, explaining how he built records from scratch and created the bounce-driven sound that powered Cash Money Records to the top. Juvenile matches that energy with street wisdom and storytelling, giving insight into his journey as a lyricist and the making of timeless records that still resonate today.
The episode doesn’t shy away from real talk—touching on industry politics, past tensions, and how they’ve navigated longevity in a constantly evolving game. Their chemistry is undeniable, blending humor, honesty, and game for the next generation of artists.
This ROC Solid sit-down feels like a history lesson and a blueprint at the same time. It’s a powerful reminder of how two legends turned pain, culture, and creativity into a lasting legacy that continues to influence hip hop worldwide.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What up y'all? This your main man, Memphis Bleak right here.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Welcome to rock Solid, a production of iHeart Radio and
the Black Effect Network in partnership with my guys over
at Drink Champs.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
You should nobody know.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
You should nobody know. Yeah, y'all, you already know what
it is.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yours truly am Greasy myth Bleak back with another exclusive
episode of Rock Solid, And this one is special because
I got two of my favorite guys from my favorite city.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
You hearn me, New Orleans. Baby, when they talk that
shit get dirty, baby.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
You know they showed me love when I touch down, baby,
you know, let's welcome the legends to the building.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Many fresh juvie, my guys. What's up? My brothers? How
you doing that? My god? What's up?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Man?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
A few times?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yo?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
I love it, y'all, I love it. I love it.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I got some people's out there, like my sister, the Liing,
the Shynese.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
You know, one of.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
My sisters, I call her my sister. I met them.
You know, New Orleans. They show you so much love,
so you just become family. She got ordained, so you
know she out there praying for me. You know what
I mean that my other sister, Shayne. She she first
line stepping every day. Yeah, it's front of the first line,
which I call the second line.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
The second line is the band. The second line she
on every line.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
She didn't even cracking. She ain't she outside with it.
But yo, I wanted to know, right because I'm a fan.
So let's start from the beginning. Man, New Orleans, the
bounce coachre here come cash Money, all the money in
the world, stunting on the world, showing niggas. Hey, we
got that flash too. What was it like for y'all
(01:46):
in that era?
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Well, rewind a little bit. Cash Money started out as
a bounced label. Yeah, so, so the first generation of
cash Money was bounce artists.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
It's changed when he did.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
BG Elbow Chopper City. What the changed the whole format
of what it was like. And then from that it
was on and popping, like you know what I'm saying,
but that ain't But they ain't answer your question.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
I gotta correct him a little bit though, because that
God damn U n l V Uptime for Life album.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Yeah, yeah, beats yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Bro, you had me, That's that's what.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
But U n l V is considered a bounce group bounce,
you know what I'm saying, But they had some different
beats because I was on some other ship.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, and y'all always been on that bounce wave, especially
even when you was doing the you know, the many
fresh and fucking baby albums. Y'all had that bounce where
you're still incorporated in there. But what would some of
your motivation even get into the producing world?
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Ship bro, My dad my dad was a DJ, so
so i'm you know, crazy ship in the world. My
dad actually knew Juvie before I know way my dad
used to let him rock the mic when my dad
was DJ. So my DNA was already that when you
really look at my ship is cycle. And it's kind
of because when you go to like baby pitchures, I
(03:17):
got records and ship, I got keyboards there, like.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
I got no baby Yeah, I got no baby rats
I got I got I have.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Records, I have instrumental turntables. That was my motherfucking yeah,
that was my that was my baby toys like saying,
So the ship was kind of written into my DNA,
like so it was already there for me, like you know,
and just meeting some cool ass people that put the
pieces to the puzzle.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
That's a fact. Yeah, that's dope. Man.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
When you first started working together, like y'all too at
Cash Money, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
You said your pops introduced new him first.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Man.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
What made the creative chemistry like just click so quickly.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
The fact that we were so rebellious against each other.
I'm coming from the whole other, a whole other group
of people, you know what I'm saying that did beats
and did things a certain way, and I was so
enshrined and want.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
To do with the big boy record cast was.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
I was like, even though he didn't know, one of
the main reasons I wanted to be a Cash Money
was because of him.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Oh wow, But I want him to.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
Make me another kind of beat. And he was like, well,
you know, I may hits. He was in the talking
shift to me. So it went from being the rapper,
you know, like normally the rapping and producer always lock in.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
We locked in. But it was competitive. It was like, Nah, this.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Nigga won't be He's trying to beat me out what
I mean, So I gotta So. He made me go
even harder on my songs, especially with the creativity part,
because I was more enshrined than I don't care. I
ain't so much as shrine with being the best rapper.
I just want to say this ship so I can't
believe that Nigga said that ship that.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Like, that's one thing. A lot of people think that
we had. Rockefeller had in the house producers like just
Blaze and Kanye.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
They were in house, but they were more in house
for Jack. You had to we got.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
We got the pass downs, like you said, the hand
me downs from Big Bro. Yeah, oh yeah, we got those.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
With the beat sneaking too big Yeah, get that beat.
Oh said this beat they fit? Let me get that
one man. Yeah, That's how we had to do it. Like,
at what point creating all this music New Orleans, y'all
know y'all got the bounce waves. The West Coast is
making noise, East Coast, you know, making noise. When did
(05:34):
y'all know y'all had that formula to compete?
Speaker 1 (05:37):
I ain't gonna lie, man.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
When we dropped my album, the Soldier Rag Album, we
started breaking so many barriers. And the crazy part about
the Soldier album and the album when we went in
the studio recording, we didn't know who the songs was
gonna be for because Cash Money. The way we recorded,
they never told us nothing. We was like, all right,
(06:01):
you do a solo, you do a solo, you do one.
I'm right, We're gonna record a group like five or
six group song. So you're sitting there saying, Okay, where
these songs going at?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
What album there going? So whoever next? Ez it's who
the album of who the song is going to? So
here I'm sitting here, I'm next up after BG.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
So I got something BG songs, I got someone Wayne
songs try.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I got a little bit of everything on my album.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
So that always paid the way for us to have,
you know, some of the greatest fans and seeing us together.
So it was always cool when we showed up together.
As you seeing one person, you wanted to see everybody.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
That's dope, man.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
And that's how we moved as a unit, like you know,
the movement was stronger than one person. And it's weird
to hear you say you came after BG, because up
here in New York East we you.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
The first one from Cash Money. We know when was
the blueprint? Bro?
Speaker 5 (06:59):
No bge of this happened, damn crazy. He created the
folk the first like the crazes for us.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Now.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
I got on one song on BG album with bun B,
and I ain't even know who bund was.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
But.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
Two days with this dude, and I said, he said,
they say bun I said Bun. I said, bun B,
the kicking the humble trail niggas. Yeah, he said, yeah,
he said, you ain't knowing who I was. That's what
man is fucked up, I said, I get. I started
fanning out.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Shout out bun B. He's fucking killing them with them
trail burgers. Bro Yo, yo, my nigga, that might be
one of the best burgers on the street right now.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
And I told him that you got some ship, my guy.
So but four.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Hundred degrees dropped, first high drop, then four hundred four
hundred degrees dropped and boom, cash money exploded on the
motherfucking sing yeah voices everywhere.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
What was life like then? How did it shift for y'all? Then?
Speaker 5 (08:02):
It really didn't shift for us because before we got
that then we was really like we was. We was lavish,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (08:12):
So when when when the world got a chance to
see us, man, we was already like ferraris and beans
and big houses, and we already had all that ship,
so they we we the they didn't look at us
like they looked at us like this can't be real.
We were like, nah, bro, it's really real. You know
what I mean, It's really real. And the fans went crazy.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
It was a shifting, you know, even how people look
at business, you know, because we had this ship together,
like you know, when Folks was going, we want to
sign y'all to a major, you know, and we was like,
we don't really need it. We really didn't, you know
what I'm saying, because that much ship was happening, like
you know what I'm saying, and it's and it's kind
of like what he said. Juvie was the glue that
(08:55):
that that made it go crazy. But really, you know,
you had fuck. This is when we invented the Big Timers.
And this was before the world heard it. But in
our region kicked.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Out the group that she was in Big Time.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
He was, he was.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
You listen to the first of it, The only one
said they kicked me out kind of way, but we
got the record, got cut ship time.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
If you listen to the first Big Times Bun beat
all over.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
We were like, you know what, come to me, come
to the met this ship.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
The nigga told us to our face they ain't cutting,
no coning.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Y'all got everything else bron something, yeah, kick us out
the group.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
At least they kept it real, y'all. Let let's get something.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Thank y'all for y'all lyrics and thank y'all for y'all contribution.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
But we won't be needing.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
Y'all with that Big Time y'all all don't want to
let us in the high boys group, yo yo, but
let's let's fast for a little bit because Big.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Time had the mark of their own.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
That's one thing I can honestly say about cash Money.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Y'all have different entities from.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
The one commodity like it's it's cash money as the group.
But then all of y'all individually, did youall thing? Then
you got the Big Timers, you.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Got hot boys like that ship had to be madness.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
I know, did you ever leave the studio or did.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Time brow bro?
Speaker 1 (10:28):
We turned, We really turned the studio.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
That was that was home the glover I remixed, go ahead,
tell his nigga turn the studios in the club.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Don't matter frame I'm coming to the studio about the rhyme,
you know, getting this motherfucker. No, no, he gave you
the speech first off, what we're doing with kind of
sat making and he got three four gallons of this ship.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
He then cocoxic get this, and we about to go
hand and have fun. That's right.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
Heven went to this white boy boy and.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah, you had the moon white boys.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
That made me my own fucking ship, like you know
what I'm saying. And this bar brung New Orleans together,
like this is one of them bars that that that
ship bridged the gap between white kids and black kids,
you know what I'm saying. So I was like, hey, bro, y'all,
y'all come up with some ship that you know. And
I used to bring that ship to the fucking studio
(11:31):
and gallons and it's like, okay, once that ship gets started, Nah,
this is what's crazy. Like I would my ship would
start off with old school R and B. Before you
know it, they jamming that ship. Then I'm like, let's
get into the songs like I started with Patrice Rushing
and I'm just playing that ship. I got the drinks pouring,
(11:51):
the lights going, all of that.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
That's now it's time to get the work.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
That's crazy to have the chicks over there and all that,
because that's what that's what fucked us up when we
went to Circle House. See like Baseline Jay and them
made that the hood. It was the hood. We didn't
get the crystal all of you know, the stinks they
was ordering. We were still ordering McDonald's, Wendy's.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
But then we were with the Circle House. Well, I
don't think we all. Circle House fucked a lot of people.
We fell off a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Shout out, Bill, motherfucking brownies, ruined lives.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
You went there thinking you're gonna record who's the chef?
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Circle House was bad man? Yes. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
So now like it's a lot of artists come up
with producers.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
What's some of the advice you would give some of
the artists working, you know, as a with with a
producer that that I guess say, because many you you sing,
you the cash money sound is your signature.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
So for you to build that it takes time. Yeah,
it takes where you don't just find a producer and
he creates your sound for you.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
That don't work like that.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
So artists today, a lot of these guys grow up together,
go to school together, and they decide to make music.
What advice would you give them, guys to different from
when y'all did it.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
The numbers don't lie. We've heard that before. When let
me explain it to you. To me, the most successful
families that moved the most movements. When I say movements,
not like one artist or whatever.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
All had that. They had that one producer.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Even if they stepped outside of that, somebody picked the
outside of that that was close to the ears of
what this company sound like. So if you if you
did another song, you know, with somebody else, your producer said, yeah,
that one is cool, you should do that one that
sounds like us. And when you think of you know
what I'm saying, Rockefeller, You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
You think of Suave, It wasn't like that.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
But let me tell you.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Let me tell you why all kinds of.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Why y'all Jay made some people bigger than you know
what I'm saying that.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
For for instance, just.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Blades, we we if Just Blade did it, we didn't
even need to hear it, you.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
We were just like, well, ship just blazes and you
know it's fire. When Kanye did it, we were just like,
this ship gonna be fire and anything after that.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
For you?
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Yeah, So that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
There's things where it's a marriage where if you get
the right people aligned, that ship gonna happen. And in
hip hop, the most successful things were people aligned.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
That's a fact.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Like being older now, all the success we all accomplished
in this game, how is it for you seeing little
wa come from this little shorty to where he at?
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Now?
Speaker 5 (15:03):
Hey man, it's one of the most thrilling things in
life because it gives me bragging points. I know, if
you ask you this question, who you think the greatest
app of all time is, you're gonna say, oh.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
And it's part biasing. Is how you feel in your
heart right, you got to ride with home too, And
that's how I am by Wayne. I'm like, hey man,
I put my money up on Wayne. If you know
what I'm saying. I know what I'm talking about about
a little broke and I know I know what he
been through and I know what we did well us
as a whole to all of us.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
We torned him down. You torn them down, and.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
I think it worked out for the good, because hey,
they only created a monster. You know a lot of
stuff that he held in when he got his opportunity
to let it.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Go, Like god damn man.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
That's why I asked, did y'all ever leave the studio,
because that's one nigga, who don't you want to link
up with Wayne? You better be in the studio. He
ain't linking up. What you trying to tell you? We
studio rats.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
You know, that's part of the thing that he got
instilled in him. We all had that because we was
like that in the beginning.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
One of the things that was different about him. And
he could tell you this if you fucking missed the slot.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Oh he was there, so like you know, somebody was
late and and they didn't.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Show up here.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
He was quiet. Boy, I got it, I got parts
all of that.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Don't worry about it. I feel like that that's right.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
He was in that motherfucker like, Wayne, ain't leave that studio.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
When we've done back that ass up, he stood there.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Everybody got tired, and yeah, everyone was still waiting for
that magical part at the end.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Out and after backing up and he had to be
on it.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
He had a whole verse he didn't want. He wanted
me to take a verse off and he didn't want
to man on it.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
I'm like, boy, man, yeah, that's what I wanted to know,
asking about that song back that did y'all know y'all
was making the culture classic that was gonna last.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
I'm gonna let him ask it. Come on, bro, that story.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
So I wanted to be respected as MC want.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
That's why I was. So that's to me him. He
was hopping on it from day one.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Like this is the joke.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
He kept changing the beat like because I was killing
that motherfucker. So he changed the beat and we get
the Nashville and I'm like, say, Bro, I go in
the room with Slim. I said, he just paid me
the beat. He said, I sound I said, it's awesome.
But and he what I wrapped to Bro? I don't
I sound like I wrapped into another beat.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
You gotta let me do something, do something else. He
walked in the door. The nigga came here, winding nigga
busting the door and he winded like a bitch.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Yea chill, said, Bro, come on, b let me man
look at him fresh, letting that nigga come on, but
let him go get one shot at it.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
I go in that bitch. I ain't got nothing, nigga,
you ain't even thinking now you're just talking. Ship.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
I get that bitch.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
I'm there. I see this nigga that said, damn, that's crazy. Man,
give me anothering mine.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
I walk outside and start drinking and ship, I get
drunk as some motherfucker. I come back in that bitch,
bounce it up. I got one word I said, because
you're working. What's some man said your fans j I'm
just winning that one word. Yeah, I got yelled everything
that nigga come out the bitch, he can open the door.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
See that's what the funk I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
That ship going.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Don't change this word.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
That's bro, that shouldn't. And then in every movie now
like that is insane. Bro, like that record is insane.
Then you got bling bling Come on, man.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
I tell people laying a lot of our songs, that's
that's hits. It's either he.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Came in there with the hook already, you know, put
the guy him.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
It's Johnny on the spot and I'm drinking alcohol and
I'm just talking ship the best songs.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
That's the best songs, bro, just ship.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
I woke up out my sleep I wrote Blink Blink
in my fucking sleep, and and it just kept. I
was like, if I don't record this, motherfucker.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
We ain't gonna remember it.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like, if we don't,
if I don't record this right now, we ain't gonna
remember that.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
So when they came in the studio, I had already
laid the hook and all of that ship. I was like, bro,
just one of them, you know what I'm saying. And
you get that like, yeah, it's one of them.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Argument, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
I think this guy ultimate classics, Like bro, we we
we took from y'all, like hearing cash Money is a man.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
He had the Navy member Jay say that same ship.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Bro, There's so many times he has made like, you know,
like some ship that's from cash Money, where I'm just like.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
That, lets you know that your ears is to the street.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Yes, well, I'm like, damn, and not just our shit,
just references from songs where you like damn, you know
all the down South classics and you know what.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
I'm saying, Yeah, telling we was up here, gat up
bootes with the piped out get you to my g all,
that ship was rocking up here like I remember Rest
in Peace, IRV Gotti. Man, Yeah, her first time I
did Summer Jam, Earth was on us, Bro, Yo, he
was on this the first time y'all did Summer Jam.
(20:34):
They announced cash money at Summer Jam, Juvenile y'all headline
and all that.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Right, we was in the office, We was in.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
The studio, matter of fact, and how video was playing,
and that nigga looked at me.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
We all in the studio.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Nigga said, Yo, if this nigga come on that stage,
that same rag gold teeth, looking like he straight off
the block.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
He's like, Bro, they taking over. Yeah, we gonna. He
looked at us like, Yo, We're gonna have a fucking problem.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
And y'all niggas came out there and did exactly that,
and we looked like, oh ship, these guys is head
they arrived, Like was that a thing for down South
to be accepted in New York?
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Did you just fell out? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (21:13):
You let him tell you the tunnel story, nigga.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
It meant the world of me.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Bro, the tunnel, especially me because I watched Crush Groove
and so I knew about the tunnel, but it scared
me to death because you know, one of the main
things everybody told me was, Bro, if you could rock
the tunnel, you made it. That's and the last person
when I came out and they said, man, and this
ninety ninety ninety dass cat to rock the tunnel from
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from how the state was Snoop Dogg. They like shy damn.
And I'm thinking of all the artists, the damn he
like bro, Snoop dog he came and shut it.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Damn.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
That's the only person. And they told me a couple
of weeks ago, rough Riders came through and shut it down. Yeah,
and they said, man, they had so they had like
five murders and.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Something like that.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I was like, what shut it down?
Speaker 1 (22:07):
The ship that bitch down. They're making me. They scaring
me with the ship now.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
I'm like, it's the one thing when you get on
standing uh huh, don't sing nothing else, sing high.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
That's it. Man. We got on that motherfucker. We turned.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
Banked up my shirt off ship rocking and we tried
to play something else.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
I don't know what it was. It was not working.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
I think it was like Tuesday and Thursdays. It was
like it was like, man, cut that bitch run.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
It was like five times it was happy. I remember,
y'all in the tunnel. Is the bottle that was flowing
through the crowd.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Don't trying to get my barges. Funny ship was my pop.
You know, my pop was in the back. You know,
it's like a train station. My pops in the back.
You're looking at the roof for ship.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
He said, damn, yeah, he's small.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Ash fucking roof is right right there. Yeah right. He said,
you know what so fun about this whole situation? I
said what he said, I'm so fucking drunk, fight breakout.
I can't do nothing for my.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
That was a.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
He said, I want to get out of here. This
is roof making me this.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
This Pops kept saying, you know, this bitch is not
built right, And I was like, man, you fucking.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
With us because he was because because he didn't know
that old last building.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Bro like yo, like, do y'all feel like when it
comes down to the Southern movement? Of course you had
no limit, but y'all pushed it a little further, I
feel like y'all, like No Limit came out that that
army gangster. Yeah, we we putting New Orleans on the map,
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but y'all came out where. I feel like how Biggie
and Jay changed New York. Y'all made it fly.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
We get money where we bosses do.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Y'all feel like y'all influenced that way with the southern
Southern hip hop.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Yeah, it's the gift in the curse. For me, it is,
and it's a giffer in the curse. And on some
shit was good about me and Julie. We might disagree
about something, but it's the gift in the curse. And
let me explain it. The thing was, I was looking
for a category that wasn't done yet.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
The superfly.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
You see what I'm saying. We got fly, fuck fly
this superfly. You gotta fucking Cadillac. I got a space
shutter on some other shit.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
You know what. You was pushing an envelope.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
So I'm like, we need a category. That's now. The
curse of it is this for a long time, that's
all hip hop has been since that. That was our shit.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
We didn't mean for anybody to take our ship and
now y'all think that's what hip hop is. That was
our ship, and we also proved we was way more
you know, creative than that.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
That was me and baby shit.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
That wasn't Jeweviy, that wasn't the hot boys, That wasn't
you know when we got together. We might have did
some crazy ass songs, but we still had lyrical, we
still had the streets, We still had you know. And
but but the curse, like I said, was that shit
made everybody feel like this is what hip hop is
supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Now y'all definitely was Waving Man. And then for a moment, you.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Know, at one time both of you stepped away from
cash money, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Like, and then now both of you, I love to
see you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
We all go through our ups downs, and I love
to see us come around that corner and anybody ever
to make amends and get.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Back to it. But what was that like going off
on your own?
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Like yeah, like somebody that.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
You got, you put all your trust in your love
and you expect, you know, expect paperwork and things to
be right because you think that they not only your friends,
they are.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Your lawyers and they run your business affairs and everything
like that.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
And what it does is it creates an NBA animosity
with somebody.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
That you really got a lot of love for.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
And instead of you just walking away and saying, man,
you know, I'm gonna do it this way, you got
an attitude about it now. And instead of you doing
it the business way, now you're jumping on songs and
saying I'm gonna do this person that, I'm gonna do
this person this, And at the at.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
The end of the day, you know you don't want
to do none of that, that's right. And then you
find out that a he ain't know what he was
doing either, you know. So while you you're building up.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
All this hate towards somebody, you gotta realize what they
was going through too.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
So you know, for me, it's like, man, I learned
to live and that lived after so many too many.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
Years past, and you keep on crying and whining about
something that you know you ain't gonna get.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
You know what I'm saying, Why hoping on that man?
Speaker 5 (27:08):
You know what I'm saying, Go have a go have
that conversation with that man and let him know how
you really feel and see where that takes It might
take you back to friendship like me.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
I mean, it might take you to like I fuck him,
I still hate them, you know what I mean? That
shoot with me. I can't hold hate my heart. I can't.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I can't like Oh yeah, I feel like I'm blocking
my blessing and it really is. It holds you back, man,
you know what I mean. It set you back just
sitting there harboring hate for no reason, like you know
what I mean, Like the game, I feel like we
all grew together and learned this together. It was no course,
there was no schools, some class that taught us this shit.
So a lot of us learn faster than others, and
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a lot of like in school, you know what I mean,
a lot of us learn slower than others. But I
feel like when you friends and you from the same
neighborhood and y'all really love each other, money can't change that,
you know what I meantime had.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
A home and un man, damn, I just looked out
for this.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
He do some bullshit, But you bro still steal your
because you ain't about to let that That exactly We're
gonna fall out.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Some ship that ain't gonna be with it exactly what
I'm saying. That's how I feel.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
I think the most misunderstood thing about hip hop, you know,
to the world and other cultures is it's the fucking
cousin to street business. Because it's the cousin because a
lot of us came from street ship and we stepped
into the arena that that's all we know is street ship.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
That's what we was trained to.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Yeah, and we operate that way until we learn better,
you know what I'm saying. So no other genre of
music gonna understand that this ship is built off we're
the cousin.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
To street ship.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Like you said that, Like country music, Yeah, they ain't
gonna get that. They didn't have to go through that.
They don't, you know, No, no motherfucker and country ever
you know was a dude that was a drug dealer
that puts somebody on and started the.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Record was probably was out there time.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
But what I'm saying, Isa.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
And roping rope nigs this week twelve Hondred, you don't
know why.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Who the fuck all of us got somebody who my
homeboy Keith, you know, Keith was the drug dealers out there,
middler that you know, but that he tried to put
money back into doing.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Some righteous ship.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yeah you know, yo, that's crazy to say that, because Jay,
we used to call when we used to get booked
by promoters that we knew was drug dealers that trying
to clean their money get some We used to call
them gt P, gangster's term promoter. So niggas used to
be like, Yo, we know this's gonna be one of
those wild nights.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
And gt P all take a picture with my daughter,
my nephew too. That's right, my mom's here toobody who
came there with him. All't got it? He got.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
And that's what I mean.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Soon seven for both of y'all said that that shit
don't happen at other jobs.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
You gotta be crushing.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Well, you like, you better take a picture with this
nigga because he might go crazy tonight and we need
to get our money and get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
No, that's them niggas got them tools, yo, nigga said
Milwaukee and the walk, Yeah, Milwaukee. Them niggas is ain't
born with a penscol By Gene Kennedy. It's like got
they say, white men born with a jump shot. Black
niggas born with a dribble them niggas in fucking Milwaukee,
shit car.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
They ball with a pistol, but they ain't you bugget yo.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
But like one thing I love like a lot I'm
watching a lot of us are the legends everybody. You know,
we transition into media, you know, becoming bigger personalities than.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
We were on the music. How has that been for
y'all stepping in with the you know, still four hundred degrees.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
It's a different kind of animal. Bro's Texas pretty nice, but.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Uh, talk about it, talk about.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
Hey man, I think it's great for us, you know,
as allist man, to give, to give the people that
other side of us. Sure, you know we locked in
the box. We all open minded, we do it right.
We have fun size we got, we got bad size
we got. You know what I'm saying. We're human just
like them. A lot of people really want to know that.
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They want to know if you live the same life
and have the same struggles like they do, how.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
You feel about that the same ship?
Speaker 4 (31:34):
I mean, I just people want to know that you
go through the same ship they go through. That's right,
you know, to be successful, you gotta you gotta actually
say that they're going to be good days and bad
days and accept that ship. It don't matter what you got,
they're going to be good days and bad days. And
it's so much easier when you actually saying to somebody.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
That that happens, broke, she.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
She don't know, she'll respect, she'll respect part time.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Yeah, that's why I get it. I get it.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
So when you say to somebody like, listen, my life
is just like yours. I got things going on, good
and bad.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
I mean, that's that's right there. That's a prime example. Yeah,
yeah all the time. Bro.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Like, I'm a firm believer in good days and bad days,
and success is how you measure it. You know, a
lot of people think money is success. Me I'm a
firm believer health and wealth is success.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Health first, because to make money and be laid up
in the bed is asonized pointless, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
So when you think about your your happiest time in life,
some of them it didn't cost you nothing. It might
have just been at a picnic when you was with
your family and your friends, your closest friends, and y'all
had a good time and you you and you realize
when you get older like that ship really didn't cost nothing.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
Success is like running in a marathon, right and don't
don't don't be the person to win it, but still
across the finish line, that's right.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
You're in it to see that, you know what.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
I'm right, man, So the goals with successful to me
is setting the goal and accomplishing there.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
That's right, man, that's dope.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Man.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Being from where y'all from, we all, like I said,
we all got the same story from beginning, but we
all didn't walk the same path. So knowing the struggle,
the you know what I mean, the burden of being
from the South, not from the.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
New York or you know, up in the East.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
It's a little easier to get a record deal, So
what you had to go through the breakthrough to do
what y'all.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Did and accomplish so much.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Man, I know y'all got to sit there some days
and just be in the crib like yo, man, Yeah,
Julie whatever, Yo.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
You know we them niggas right, Oh, I do that
all the time.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
I'm a speech guy. I'm a speech guy. I'm like, bro,
I don't give a funk about what's going on.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Nigga super over, that's right. That's right.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
Thinking about where I came from, the King of the
food stamp Yo book king say, I'm the king of
the yo. I used to yo bro. You know, if
you've seen the shorter you liked in the.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Story, you had that book, you wait for a quarter.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
No, I waited outside just shorty left. I wanted to
see the white note.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
I needed them green.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Looking at you like, hey, on that left, we got
these greens. So where I was from, you had to
hide that white book.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
What not?
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Where I'm from, I would shoot you like talking nor
sixty It's sixty five dollar, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
So I'm from the project. So we never had that.
Everybody had dirty shoes and ain't getting it for Christmas?
Speaker 5 (34:50):
Ye you little red fox said when Christmas came around
about we went balls.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
We would have nothing to play with. Yeah, you figured
out you If we wasn't boys, we had none to
play with. Real ship.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
So when people talk about hip hop, where does many
fresh and juvenile chapter sit in that history?
Speaker 3 (35:16):
The greats right? I used to be crying about this ship.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
I think I'm that man to to that.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
I used to be quiet and modest.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
But you know, I feel like that shit, don't get
you nowhere. If you don't like me, fuck you. I'm
a bad motherfucker. I've done some incredible ship.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
And they're like, you need to know, you need to know.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
And as far as me, I feel like I'm still
right my script. Bro, I'm one of them niggas died.
I ain't settling it.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
I'm looking at you how I look at whole How
the fuck you niggas still got balls?
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Because that ship with Meghan is like, my man, you
still spitting?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Then you be in dropping joints, just ride around, cruising
through the city like I got a little virtual for
these and spend liva still like.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Man, that's you know what, You get to the point
to where it's fun to do it. That's and that's
what it is.
Speaker 5 (36:10):
I'm just getting the kickout doing it. Really like the
youngsters saying, I ain't gonna lie you. I get I
get text. I got a text from from John Queek's
ride FO nine and I see you.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
You don't need to fing throat. That's what that's what
it is, and I love that man.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
So speaking like that, what you want the next chapter
of artists to learn from your era to help them on.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Their path you can write your own script.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
Man. They making rules, They trying to make the rules
and make rules. You don't see no rules and no
other genre rap. So I think we should do like
these these colleges and these these these big institutions are doing.
Get that money, man, any I l money to see
these casts. Get get it all, you know, figure out
a way to incorporate business with with what you're doing.
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And don't don't look at it as you know, just
rapping right, look at look at us rapping to open
up all these other doors for you, to create all
this revenue stream for not only you, for your family.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
It's right man, businesses man. So that's one thing I
talk about investing, because we can't wrap forever.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
You can't you That would be me cross your t's
and dot your eyes.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
Sort out early, you know if we already told you,
like every genre of something goes through something to make
it better, you know what I'm saying. So we did
homeboy business for you not to do it. You know
what I'm saying about it, for you not to do it.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
We did homeboy business. You do it.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
That's in the gym, bro. We did that ship for
you not to do it.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
You know what I'm saying, ship, because that ship.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Don't work out, you know.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
And we love our people, we love our brothers, but
when you're not trained to do something, you're not gonna
make it work to its best ability. I can't let
my dude, Killer Kevin be my manager because I want
to take him off the streets. That nigga don't know
nothing about managing.
Speaker 6 (38:14):
Now killing ship, they gonna get you a CA and
that moving me out of another Killer Kevin production bitch,
and I'm like camp Now we gotta fight again.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Getting no corporate gigs.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Just keep on yelling another killer.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
N We gotta tell cam Chill Calf, We're gonna corporate
Calf calve.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
I wanted to kill a.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
So besides still foe honey, you know what I mean?
What's next for my old gs man? What's next? What
people could expect from the from Yeah?
Speaker 5 (39:04):
Well, for me, my album is coming out on my
birthday to twenty six the balling point, Okay, say twenty
sixth of March, Yeah, March.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
That's what I'm talking about, my ge, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (39:13):
We're still chasing, We're still right yeah, yeah, I got
that coming out, and my corgnak is getting ready to
drop my yack.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
Two months what's the name, what's the name it's called yet?
Why see I kept my yack.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Okay, that's what.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
That's fine.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
And uh my other my other thing that I got
going on is I'm going on to a April second.
They got five dates, so God bless dope man more bags.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
Yeah, I'm just disturbing the peace out here. Bro, I'm
jaying all over the country, bar misfoots, barbecues.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Anybody who got that bag and is there, and now
you gotta put a helmet on.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
They're giving out one hundred and fifty thousand to get
you a helmet. Wet. They got the mouse, they got
the other. We gotta find me, yeah help.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Yeah, yeah, I'm killing calf managing Many Fresh only with
the helmet on the No Bow Corporate production.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Yeah yeah, the helmet.
Speaker 5 (40:13):
Were gonna give up a danger mouse helmet something word
gonna create a.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Whole other so get Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
So I got I got a reckless weekend that I'm doing.
And what reckless weekend is? I like, I reach out
to artists who want to do it, and we got
from Monday Friday morning to Monday morning to do songs
and whatever.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
We do, we put it out and we split it
fifty to fifty. There is no middle man.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
There is no you know, nobody that that no script
that somebody could tell you don't do the fucking song
that way or whatever, and all of that.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
You start on Friday morning, we ind on Monday morning.
I need a reckless recrest weekend, reckless weekend, reckless week
You see my daughter calling me on this.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
She reckless every weekend, So we need a reckless weekend.
Let's get it, man.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
I appreciate y'all pulling up. Man, it's an honor to
being the presence of your legends. Like I said, I'm
a fan first. And you know, we had a relationship
behind the scenes with the Yeah That Man. Y'all continue
to stay blessed, healthy, key winning man.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Much love to both of y'all.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
March twenty sixth, the album Yeah Reckless Weekend bleak dropping
on there.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
We don't care.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
We all solo highlight at us. The money is in
the bag towards it everything. It's rock solid man, many
fresh juwe you know what it is. Legends. For more
podcasts from iHeart Radio, visit iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or
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can follow me on any social media platform under the
name Memphis Bleak.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
You see anybody fraud in flagging
What up y'all? This your main man, Memphis Bleak right here.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Welcome to rock Solid, a production of iHeart Radio and
the Black Effect Network in partnership with my guys over
at Drink Champs.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
You should nobody know.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
You should nobody know. Yeah, y'all, you already know what
it is.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yours truly am Greasy myth Bleak back with another exclusive
episode of Rock Solid, And this one is special because
I got two of my favorite guys from my favorite city.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
You hearn me, New Orleans. Baby, when they talk that
shit get dirty, baby.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
You know they showed me love when I touch down, baby,
you know, let's welcome the legends to the building.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Many fresh juvie, my guys. What's up? My brothers? How
you doing that? My god? What's up?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Man?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
A few times?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yo?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
I love it, y'all, I love it. I love it.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I got some people's out there, like my sister, the Liing,
the Shynese.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
You know, one of.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
My sisters, I call her my sister. I met them.
You know, New Orleans. They show you so much love,
so you just become family. She got ordained, so you
know she out there praying for me. You know what
I mean that my other sister, Shayne. She she first
line stepping every day. Yeah, it's front of the first line,
which I call the second line.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
The second line is the band. The second line she
on every line.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
She didn't even cracking. She ain't she outside with it.
But yo, I wanted to know, right because I'm a fan.
So let's start from the beginning. Man, New Orleans, the
bounce coachre here come cash Money, all the money in
the world, stunting on the world, showing niggas. Hey, we
got that flash too. What was it like for y'all
(01:46):
in that era?
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Well, rewind a little bit. Cash Money started out as
a bounced label. Yeah, so, so the first generation of
cash Money was bounce artists.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
It's changed when he did.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
BG Elbow Chopper City. What the changed the whole format
of what it was like. And then from that it
was on and popping, like you know what I'm saying,
but that ain't But they ain't answer your question.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
I gotta correct him a little bit though, because that
God damn U n l V Uptime for Life album.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Yeah, yeah, beats yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Bro, you had me, That's that's what.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
But U n l V is considered a bounce group bounce,
you know what I'm saying, But they had some different
beats because I was on some other ship.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, and y'all always been on that bounce wave, especially
even when you was doing the you know, the many
fresh and fucking baby albums. Y'all had that bounce where
you're still incorporated in there. But what would some of
your motivation even get into the producing world?
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Ship bro, My dad my dad was a DJ, so
so i'm you know, crazy ship in the world. My
dad actually knew Juvie before I know way my dad
used to let him rock the mic when my dad
was DJ. So my DNA was already that when you
really look at my ship is cycle. And it's kind
of because when you go to like baby pitchures, I
(03:17):
got records and ship, I got keyboards there, like.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
I got no baby Yeah, I got no baby rats
I got I got I have.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Records, I have instrumental turntables. That was my motherfucking yeah,
that was my that was my baby toys like saying,
So the ship was kind of written into my DNA,
like so it was already there for me, like you know,
and just meeting some cool ass people that put the
pieces to the puzzle.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
That's a fact. Yeah, that's dope. Man.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
When you first started working together, like y'all too at
Cash Money, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
You said your pops introduced new him first.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Man.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
What made the creative chemistry like just click so quickly.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
The fact that we were so rebellious against each other.
I'm coming from the whole other, a whole other group
of people, you know what I'm saying that did beats
and did things a certain way, and I was so
enshrined and want.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
To do with the big boy record cast was.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
I was like, even though he didn't know, one of
the main reasons I wanted to be a Cash Money
was because of him.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Oh wow, But I want him to.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
Make me another kind of beat. And he was like, well,
you know, I may hits. He was in the talking
shift to me. So it went from being the rapper,
you know, like normally the rapping and producer always lock in.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
We locked in. But it was competitive. It was like, Nah, this.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Nigga won't be He's trying to beat me out what
I mean, So I gotta So. He made me go
even harder on my songs, especially with the creativity part,
because I was more enshrined than I don't care. I
ain't so much as shrine with being the best rapper.
I just want to say this ship so I can't
believe that Nigga said that ship that.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Like, that's one thing. A lot of people think that
we had. Rockefeller had in the house producers like just
Blaze and Kanye.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
They were in house, but they were more in house
for Jack. You had to we got.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
We got the pass downs, like you said, the hand
me downs from Big Bro. Yeah, oh yeah, we got those.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
With the beat sneaking too big Yeah, get that beat.
Oh said this beat they fit? Let me get that
one man. Yeah, That's how we had to do it. Like,
at what point creating all this music New Orleans, y'all
know y'all got the bounce waves. The West Coast is
making noise, East Coast, you know, making noise. When did
(05:34):
y'all know y'all had that formula to compete?
Speaker 1 (05:37):
I ain't gonna lie, man.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
When we dropped my album, the Soldier Rag Album, we
started breaking so many barriers. And the crazy part about
the Soldier album and the album when we went in
the studio recording, we didn't know who the songs was
gonna be for because Cash Money. The way we recorded,
they never told us nothing. We was like, all right,
(06:01):
you do a solo, you do a solo, you do one.
I'm right, We're gonna record a group like five or
six group song. So you're sitting there saying, Okay, where
these songs going at?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
What album there going? So whoever next? Ez it's who
the album of who the song is going to? So
here I'm sitting here, I'm next up after BG.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
So I got something BG songs, I got someone Wayne
songs try.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I got a little bit of everything on my album.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
So that always paid the way for us to have,
you know, some of the greatest fans and seeing us together.
So it was always cool when we showed up together.
As you seeing one person, you wanted to see everybody.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
That's dope, man.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
And that's how we moved as a unit, like you know,
the movement was stronger than one person. And it's weird
to hear you say you came after BG, because up
here in New York East we you.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
The first one from Cash Money. We know when was
the blueprint? Bro?
Speaker 5 (06:59):
No bge of this happened, damn crazy. He created the
folk the first like the crazes for us.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Now.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
I got on one song on BG album with bun B,
and I ain't even know who bund was.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
But.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
Two days with this dude, and I said, he said,
they say bun I said Bun. I said, bun B,
the kicking the humble trail niggas. Yeah, he said, yeah,
he said, you ain't knowing who I was. That's what
man is fucked up, I said, I get. I started
fanning out.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Shout out bun B. He's fucking killing them with them
trail burgers. Bro Yo, yo, my nigga, that might be
one of the best burgers on the street right now.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
And I told him that you got some ship, my guy.
So but four.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Hundred degrees dropped, first high drop, then four hundred four
hundred degrees dropped and boom, cash money exploded on the
motherfucking sing yeah voices everywhere.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
What was life like then? How did it shift for y'all? Then?
Speaker 5 (08:02):
It really didn't shift for us because before we got
that then we was really like we was. We was lavish,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (08:12):
So when when when the world got a chance to
see us, man, we was already like ferraris and beans
and big houses, and we already had all that ship,
so they we we the they didn't look at us
like they looked at us like this can't be real.
We were like, nah, bro, it's really real. You know
what I mean, It's really real. And the fans went crazy.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
It was a shifting, you know, even how people look
at business, you know, because we had this ship together,
like you know, when Folks was going, we want to
sign y'all to a major, you know, and we was like,
we don't really need it. We really didn't, you know
what I'm saying, because that much ship was happening, like
you know what I'm saying, and it's and it's kind
of like what he said. Juvie was the glue that
(08:55):
that that made it go crazy. But really, you know,
you had fuck. This is when we invented the Big Timers.
And this was before the world heard it. But in
our region kicked.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Out the group that she was in Big Time.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
He was, he was.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
You listen to the first of it, The only one
said they kicked me out kind of way, but we
got the record, got cut ship time.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
If you listen to the first Big Times Bun beat
all over.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
We were like, you know what, come to me, come
to the met this ship.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
The nigga told us to our face they ain't cutting,
no coning.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Y'all got everything else bron something, yeah, kick us out
the group.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
At least they kept it real, y'all. Let let's get something.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Thank y'all for y'all lyrics and thank y'all for y'all contribution.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
But we won't be needing.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
Y'all with that Big Time y'all all don't want to
let us in the high boys group, yo yo, but
let's let's fast for a little bit because Big.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Time had the mark of their own.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
That's one thing I can honestly say about cash Money.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Y'all have different entities from.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
The one commodity like it's it's cash money as the group.
But then all of y'all individually, did youall thing? Then
you got the Big Timers, you.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Got hot boys like that ship had to be madness.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
I know, did you ever leave the studio or did.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Time brow bro?
Speaker 1 (10:28):
We turned, We really turned the studio.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
That was that was home the glover I remixed, go ahead,
tell his nigga turn the studios in the club.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Don't matter frame I'm coming to the studio about the rhyme,
you know, getting this motherfucker. No, no, he gave you
the speech first off, what we're doing with kind of
sat making and he got three four gallons of this ship.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
He then cocoxic get this, and we about to go
hand and have fun. That's right.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
Heven went to this white boy boy and.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah, you had the moon white boys.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
That made me my own fucking ship, like you know
what I'm saying. And this bar brung New Orleans together,
like this is one of them bars that that that
ship bridged the gap between white kids and black kids,
you know what I'm saying. So I was like, hey, bro, y'all,
y'all come up with some ship that you know. And
I used to bring that ship to the fucking studio
(11:31):
and gallons and it's like, okay, once that ship gets started, Nah,
this is what's crazy. Like I would my ship would
start off with old school R and B. Before you
know it, they jamming that ship. Then I'm like, let's
get into the songs like I started with Patrice Rushing
and I'm just playing that ship. I got the drinks pouring,
(11:51):
the lights going, all of that.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
That's now it's time to get the work.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
That's crazy to have the chicks over there and all that,
because that's what that's what fucked us up when we
went to Circle House. See like Baseline Jay and them
made that the hood. It was the hood. We didn't
get the crystal all of you know, the stinks they
was ordering. We were still ordering McDonald's, Wendy's.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
But then we were with the Circle House. Well, I
don't think we all. Circle House fucked a lot of people.
We fell off a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Shout out, Bill, motherfucking brownies, ruined lives.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
You went there thinking you're gonna record who's the chef?
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Circle House was bad man? Yes. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
So now like it's a lot of artists come up
with producers.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
What's some of the advice you would give some of
the artists working, you know, as a with with a
producer that that I guess say, because many you you sing,
you the cash money sound is your signature.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
So for you to build that it takes time. Yeah,
it takes where you don't just find a producer and
he creates your sound for you.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
That don't work like that.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
So artists today, a lot of these guys grow up together,
go to school together, and they decide to make music.
What advice would you give them, guys to different from
when y'all did it.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
The numbers don't lie. We've heard that before. When let
me explain it to you. To me, the most successful
families that moved the most movements. When I say movements,
not like one artist or whatever.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
All had that. They had that one producer.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Even if they stepped outside of that, somebody picked the
outside of that that was close to the ears of
what this company sound like. So if you if you
did another song, you know, with somebody else, your producer said, yeah,
that one is cool, you should do that one that
sounds like us. And when you think of you know
what I'm saying, Rockefeller, You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
You think of Suave, It wasn't like that.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
But let me tell you.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Let me tell you why all kinds of.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Why y'all Jay made some people bigger than you know
what I'm saying that.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
For for instance, just.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Blades, we we if Just Blade did it, we didn't
even need to hear it, you.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
We were just like, well, ship just blazes and you
know it's fire. When Kanye did it, we were just like,
this ship gonna be fire and anything after that.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
For you?
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Yeah, So that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
There's things where it's a marriage where if you get
the right people aligned, that ship gonna happen. And in
hip hop, the most successful things were people aligned.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
That's a fact.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Like being older now, all the success we all accomplished
in this game, how is it for you seeing little
wa come from this little shorty to where he at?
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Now?
Speaker 5 (15:03):
Hey man, it's one of the most thrilling things in
life because it gives me bragging points. I know, if
you ask you this question, who you think the greatest
app of all time is, you're gonna say, oh.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
And it's part biasing. Is how you feel in your
heart right, you got to ride with home too, And
that's how I am by Wayne. I'm like, hey man,
I put my money up on Wayne. If you know
what I'm saying. I know what I'm talking about about
a little broke and I know I know what he
been through and I know what we did well us
as a whole to all of us.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
We torned him down. You torn them down, and.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
I think it worked out for the good, because hey,
they only created a monster. You know a lot of
stuff that he held in when he got his opportunity
to let it.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Go, Like god damn man.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
That's why I asked, did y'all ever leave the studio,
because that's one nigga, who don't you want to link
up with Wayne? You better be in the studio. He
ain't linking up. What you trying to tell you? We
studio rats.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
You know, that's part of the thing that he got
instilled in him. We all had that because we was
like that in the beginning.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
One of the things that was different about him. And
he could tell you this if you fucking missed the slot.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Oh he was there, so like you know, somebody was
late and and they didn't.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Show up here.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
He was quiet. Boy, I got it, I got parts
all of that.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Don't worry about it. I feel like that that's right.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
He was in that motherfucker like, Wayne, ain't leave that studio.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
When we've done back that ass up, he stood there.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Everybody got tired, and yeah, everyone was still waiting for
that magical part at the end.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Out and after backing up and he had to be
on it.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
He had a whole verse he didn't want. He wanted
me to take a verse off and he didn't want
to man on it.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
I'm like, boy, man, yeah, that's what I wanted to know,
asking about that song back that did y'all know y'all
was making the culture classic that was gonna last.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
I'm gonna let him ask it. Come on, bro, that story.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
So I wanted to be respected as MC want.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
That's why I was. So that's to me him. He
was hopping on it from day one.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Like this is the joke.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
He kept changing the beat like because I was killing
that motherfucker. So he changed the beat and we get
the Nashville and I'm like, say, Bro, I go in
the room with Slim. I said, he just paid me
the beat. He said, I sound I said, it's awesome.
But and he what I wrapped to Bro? I don't
I sound like I wrapped into another beat.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
You gotta let me do something, do something else. He
walked in the door. The nigga came here, winding nigga
busting the door and he winded like a bitch.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Yea chill, said, Bro, come on, b let me man
look at him fresh, letting that nigga come on, but
let him go get one shot at it.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
I go in that bitch. I ain't got nothing, nigga,
you ain't even thinking now you're just talking. Ship.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
I get that bitch.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
I'm there. I see this nigga that said, damn, that's crazy. Man,
give me anothering mine.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
I walk outside and start drinking and ship, I get
drunk as some motherfucker. I come back in that bitch,
bounce it up. I got one word I said, because
you're working. What's some man said your fans j I'm
just winning that one word. Yeah, I got yelled everything
that nigga come out the bitch, he can open the door.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
See that's what the funk I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
That ship going.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Don't change this word.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
That's bro, that shouldn't. And then in every movie now
like that is insane. Bro, like that record is insane.
Then you got bling bling Come on, man.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
I tell people laying a lot of our songs, that's
that's hits. It's either he.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Came in there with the hook already, you know, put
the guy him.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
It's Johnny on the spot and I'm drinking alcohol and
I'm just talking ship the best songs.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
That's the best songs, bro, just ship.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
I woke up out my sleep I wrote Blink Blink
in my fucking sleep, and and it just kept. I
was like, if I don't record this, motherfucker.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
We ain't gonna remember it.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like, if we don't,
if I don't record this right now, we ain't gonna
remember that.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
So when they came in the studio, I had already
laid the hook and all of that ship. I was like, bro,
just one of them, you know what I'm saying. And
you get that like, yeah, it's one of them.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Argument, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
I think this guy ultimate classics, Like bro, we we
we took from y'all, like hearing cash Money is a man.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
He had the Navy member Jay say that same ship.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Bro, There's so many times he has made like, you know,
like some ship that's from cash Money, where I'm just like.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
That, lets you know that your ears is to the street.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Yes, well, I'm like, damn, and not just our shit,
just references from songs where you like damn, you know
all the down South classics and you know what.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
I'm saying, Yeah, telling we was up here, gat up
bootes with the piped out get you to my g all,
that ship was rocking up here like I remember Rest
in Peace, IRV Gotti. Man, Yeah, her first time I
did Summer Jam, Earth was on us, Bro, Yo, he
was on this the first time y'all did Summer Jam.
(20:34):
They announced cash money at Summer Jam, Juvenile y'all headline
and all that.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Right, we was in the office, We was in.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
The studio, matter of fact, and how video was playing,
and that nigga looked at me.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
We all in the studio.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Nigga said, Yo, if this nigga come on that stage,
that same rag gold teeth, looking like he straight off
the block.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
He's like, Bro, they taking over. Yeah, we gonna. He
looked at us like, Yo, We're gonna have a fucking problem.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
And y'all niggas came out there and did exactly that,
and we looked like, oh ship, these guys is head
they arrived, Like was that a thing for down South
to be accepted in New York?
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Did you just fell out? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (21:13):
You let him tell you the tunnel story, nigga.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
It meant the world of me.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Bro, the tunnel, especially me because I watched Crush Groove
and so I knew about the tunnel, but it scared
me to death because you know, one of the main
things everybody told me was, Bro, if you could rock
the tunnel, you made it. That's and the last person
when I came out and they said, man, and this
ninety ninety ninety dass cat to rock the tunnel from
(21:40):
from how the state was Snoop Dogg. They like shy damn.
And I'm thinking of all the artists, the damn he
like bro, Snoop dog he came and shut it.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Damn.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
That's the only person. And they told me a couple
of weeks ago, rough Riders came through and shut it down. Yeah,
and they said, man, they had so they had like
five murders and.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Something like that.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I was like, what shut it down?
Speaker 1 (22:07):
The ship that bitch down. They're making me. They scaring
me with the ship now.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
I'm like, it's the one thing when you get on
standing uh huh, don't sing nothing else, sing high.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
That's it. Man. We got on that motherfucker. We turned.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
Banked up my shirt off ship rocking and we tried
to play something else.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
I don't know what it was. It was not working.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
I think it was like Tuesday and Thursdays. It was
like it was like, man, cut that bitch run.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
It was like five times it was happy. I remember,
y'all in the tunnel. Is the bottle that was flowing
through the crowd.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Don't trying to get my barges. Funny ship was my pop.
You know, my pop was in the back. You know,
it's like a train station. My pops in the back.
You're looking at the roof for ship.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
He said, damn, yeah, he's small.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Ash fucking roof is right right there. Yeah right. He said,
you know what so fun about this whole situation? I
said what he said, I'm so fucking drunk, fight breakout.
I can't do nothing for my.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
That was a.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
He said, I want to get out of here. This
is roof making me this.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
This Pops kept saying, you know, this bitch is not
built right, And I was like, man, you fucking.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
With us because he was because because he didn't know
that old last building.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Bro like yo, like, do y'all feel like when it
comes down to the Southern movement? Of course you had
no limit, but y'all pushed it a little further, I
feel like y'all, like No Limit came out that that
army gangster. Yeah, we we putting New Orleans on the map,
(24:01):
but y'all came out where. I feel like how Biggie
and Jay changed New York. Y'all made it fly.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
We get money where we bosses do.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Y'all feel like y'all influenced that way with the southern
Southern hip hop.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Yeah, it's the gift in the curse. For me, it is,
and it's a giffer in the curse. And on some
shit was good about me and Julie. We might disagree
about something, but it's the gift in the curse. And
let me explain it. The thing was, I was looking
for a category that wasn't done yet.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
The superfly.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
You see what I'm saying. We got fly, fuck fly
this superfly. You gotta fucking Cadillac. I got a space
shutter on some other shit.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
You know what. You was pushing an envelope.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
So I'm like, we need a category. That's now. The
curse of it is this for a long time, that's
all hip hop has been since that. That was our shit.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
We didn't mean for anybody to take our ship and
now y'all think that's what hip hop is. That was
our ship, and we also proved we was way more
you know, creative than that.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
That was me and baby shit.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
That wasn't Jeweviy, that wasn't the hot boys, That wasn't
you know when we got together. We might have did
some crazy ass songs, but we still had lyrical, we
still had the streets, We still had you know. And
but but the curse, like I said, was that shit
made everybody feel like this is what hip hop is
supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Now y'all definitely was Waving Man. And then for a moment, you.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Know, at one time both of you stepped away from
cash money, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Like, and then now both of you, I love to
see you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
We all go through our ups downs, and I love
to see us come around that corner and anybody ever
to make amends and get.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Back to it. But what was that like going off
on your own?
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Like yeah, like somebody that.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
You got, you put all your trust in your love
and you expect, you know, expect paperwork and things to
be right because you think that they not only your friends,
they are.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Your lawyers and they run your business affairs and everything
like that.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
And what it does is it creates an NBA animosity
with somebody.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
That you really got a lot of love for.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
And instead of you just walking away and saying, man,
you know, I'm gonna do it this way, you got
an attitude about it now. And instead of you doing
it the business way, now you're jumping on songs and
saying I'm gonna do this person that, I'm gonna do
this person this, And at the at.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
The end of the day, you know you don't want
to do none of that, that's right. And then you
find out that a he ain't know what he was
doing either, you know. So while you you're building up.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
All this hate towards somebody, you gotta realize what they
was going through too.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
So you know, for me, it's like, man, I learned
to live and that lived after so many too many.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
Years past, and you keep on crying and whining about
something that you know you ain't gonna get.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
You know what I'm saying, Why hoping on that man?
Speaker 5 (27:08):
You know what I'm saying, Go have a go have
that conversation with that man and let him know how
you really feel and see where that takes It might
take you back to friendship like me.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
I mean, it might take you to like I fuck him,
I still hate them, you know what I mean? That
shoot with me. I can't hold hate my heart. I can't.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I can't like Oh yeah, I feel like I'm blocking
my blessing and it really is. It holds you back, man,
you know what I mean. It set you back just
sitting there harboring hate for no reason, like you know
what I mean, Like the game, I feel like we
all grew together and learned this together. It was no course,
there was no schools, some class that taught us this shit.
So a lot of us learn faster than others, and
(27:46):
a lot of like in school, you know what I mean,
a lot of us learn slower than others. But I
feel like when you friends and you from the same
neighborhood and y'all really love each other, money can't change that,
you know what I meantime had.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
A home and un man, damn, I just looked out
for this.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
He do some bullshit, But you bro still steal your
because you ain't about to let that That exactly We're
gonna fall out.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Some ship that ain't gonna be with it exactly what
I'm saying. That's how I feel.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
I think the most misunderstood thing about hip hop, you know,
to the world and other cultures is it's the fucking
cousin to street business. Because it's the cousin because a
lot of us came from street ship and we stepped
into the arena that that's all we know is street ship.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
That's what we was trained to.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Yeah, and we operate that way until we learn better,
you know what I'm saying. So no other genre of
music gonna understand that this ship is built off we're
the cousin.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
To street ship.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Like you said that, Like country music, Yeah, they ain't
gonna get that. They didn't have to go through that.
They don't, you know, No, no motherfucker and country ever
you know was a dude that was a drug dealer
that puts somebody on and started the.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Record was probably was out there time.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
But what I'm saying, Isa.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
And roping rope nigs this week twelve Hondred, you don't
know why.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Who the fuck all of us got somebody who my
homeboy Keith, you know, Keith was the drug dealers out there,
middler that you know, but that he tried to put
money back into doing.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Some righteous ship.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yeah you know, yo, that's crazy to say that, because Jay,
we used to call when we used to get booked
by promoters that we knew was drug dealers that trying
to clean their money get some We used to call
them gt P, gangster's term promoter. So niggas used to
be like, Yo, we know this's gonna be one of
those wild nights.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
And gt P all take a picture with my daughter,
my nephew too. That's right, my mom's here toobody who
came there with him. All't got it? He got.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
And that's what I mean.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Soon seven for both of y'all said that that shit
don't happen at other jobs.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
You gotta be crushing.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Well, you like, you better take a picture with this
nigga because he might go crazy tonight and we need
to get our money and get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
No, that's them niggas got them tools, yo, nigga said
Milwaukee and the walk, Yeah, Milwaukee. Them niggas is ain't
born with a penscol By Gene Kennedy. It's like got
they say, white men born with a jump shot. Black
niggas born with a dribble them niggas in fucking Milwaukee,
shit car.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
They ball with a pistol, but they ain't you bugget yo.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
But like one thing I love like a lot I'm
watching a lot of us are the legends everybody. You know,
we transition into media, you know, becoming bigger personalities than.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
We were on the music. How has that been for
y'all stepping in with the you know, still four hundred degrees.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
It's a different kind of animal. Bro's Texas pretty nice, but.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Uh, talk about it, talk about.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
Hey man, I think it's great for us, you know,
as allist man, to give, to give the people that
other side of us. Sure, you know we locked in
the box. We all open minded, we do it right.
We have fun size we got, we got bad size
we got. You know what I'm saying. We're human just
like them. A lot of people really want to know that.
(31:28):
They want to know if you live the same life
and have the same struggles like they do, how.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
You feel about that the same ship?
Speaker 4 (31:34):
I mean, I just people want to know that you
go through the same ship they go through. That's right,
you know, to be successful, you gotta you gotta actually
say that they're going to be good days and bad
days and accept that ship. It don't matter what you got,
they're going to be good days and bad days. And
it's so much easier when you actually saying to somebody.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
That that happens, broke, she.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
She don't know, she'll respect, she'll respect part time.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Yeah, that's why I get it. I get it.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
So when you say to somebody like, listen, my life
is just like yours. I got things going on, good
and bad.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
I mean, that's that's right there. That's a prime example. Yeah,
yeah all the time. Bro.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Like, I'm a firm believer in good days and bad days,
and success is how you measure it. You know, a
lot of people think money is success. Me I'm a
firm believer health and wealth is success.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Health first, because to make money and be laid up
in the bed is asonized pointless, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
So when you think about your your happiest time in life,
some of them it didn't cost you nothing. It might
have just been at a picnic when you was with
your family and your friends, your closest friends, and y'all
had a good time and you you and you realize
when you get older like that ship really didn't cost nothing.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
Success is like running in a marathon, right and don't
don't don't be the person to win it, but still
across the finish line, that's right.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
You're in it to see that, you know what.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
I'm right, man, So the goals with successful to me
is setting the goal and accomplishing there.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
That's right, man, that's dope.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Man.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Being from where y'all from, we all, like I said,
we all got the same story from beginning, but we
all didn't walk the same path. So knowing the struggle,
the you know what I mean, the burden of being
from the South, not from the.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
New York or you know, up in the East.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
It's a little easier to get a record deal, So
what you had to go through the breakthrough to do
what y'all.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Did and accomplish so much.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Man, I know y'all got to sit there some days
and just be in the crib like yo, man, Yeah,
Julie whatever, Yo.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
You know we them niggas right, Oh, I do that
all the time.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
I'm a speech guy. I'm a speech guy. I'm like, bro,
I don't give a funk about what's going on.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Nigga super over, that's right. That's right.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
Thinking about where I came from, the King of the
food stamp Yo book king say, I'm the king of
the yo. I used to yo bro. You know, if
you've seen the shorter you liked in the.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Story, you had that book, you wait for a quarter.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
No, I waited outside just shorty left. I wanted to
see the white note.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
I needed them green.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Looking at you like, hey, on that left, we got
these greens. So where I was from, you had to
hide that white book.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
What not?
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Where I'm from, I would shoot you like talking nor
sixty It's sixty five dollar, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
So I'm from the project. So we never had that.
Everybody had dirty shoes and ain't getting it for Christmas?
Speaker 5 (34:50):
Ye you little red fox said when Christmas came around
about we went balls.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
We would have nothing to play with. Yeah, you figured
out you If we wasn't boys, we had none to
play with. Real ship.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
So when people talk about hip hop, where does many
fresh and juvenile chapter sit in that history?
Speaker 3 (35:16):
The greats right? I used to be crying about this ship.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
I think I'm that man to to that.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
I used to be quiet and modest.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
But you know, I feel like that shit, don't get
you nowhere. If you don't like me, fuck you. I'm
a bad motherfucker. I've done some incredible ship.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
And they're like, you need to know, you need to know.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
And as far as me, I feel like I'm still
right my script. Bro, I'm one of them niggas died.
I ain't settling it.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
I'm looking at you how I look at whole How
the fuck you niggas still got balls?
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Because that ship with Meghan is like, my man, you
still spitting?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Then you be in dropping joints, just ride around, cruising
through the city like I got a little virtual for
these and spend liva still like.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Man, that's you know what, You get to the point
to where it's fun to do it. That's and that's
what it is.
Speaker 5 (36:10):
I'm just getting the kickout doing it. Really like the
youngsters saying, I ain't gonna lie you. I get I
get text. I got a text from from John Queek's
ride FO nine and I see you.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
You don't need to fing throat. That's what that's what
it is, and I love that man.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
So speaking like that, what you want the next chapter
of artists to learn from your era to help them on.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Their path you can write your own script.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
Man. They making rules, They trying to make the rules
and make rules. You don't see no rules and no
other genre rap. So I think we should do like
these these colleges and these these these big institutions are doing.
Get that money, man, any I l money to see
these casts. Get get it all, you know, figure out
a way to incorporate business with with what you're doing.
(37:01):
And don't don't look at it as you know, just
rapping right, look at look at us rapping to open
up all these other doors for you, to create all
this revenue stream for not only you, for your family.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
It's right man, businesses man. So that's one thing I
talk about investing, because we can't wrap forever.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
You can't you That would be me cross your t's
and dot your eyes.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
Sort out early, you know if we already told you,
like every genre of something goes through something to make
it better, you know what I'm saying. So we did
homeboy business for you not to do it. You know
what I'm saying about it, for you not to do it.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
We did homeboy business. You do it.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
That's in the gym, bro. We did that ship for
you not to do it.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
You know what I'm saying, ship, because that ship.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Don't work out, you know.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
And we love our people, we love our brothers, but
when you're not trained to do something, you're not gonna
make it work to its best ability. I can't let
my dude, Killer Kevin be my manager because I want
to take him off the streets. That nigga don't know
nothing about managing.
Speaker 6 (38:14):
Now killing ship, they gonna get you a CA and
that moving me out of another Killer Kevin production bitch,
and I'm like camp Now we gotta fight again.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Getting no corporate gigs.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Just keep on yelling another killer.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
N We gotta tell cam Chill Calf, We're gonna corporate
Calf calve.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
I wanted to kill a.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
So besides still foe honey, you know what I mean?
What's next for my old gs man? What's next? What
people could expect from the from Yeah?
Speaker 5 (39:04):
Well, for me, my album is coming out on my
birthday to twenty six the balling point, Okay, say twenty
sixth of March, Yeah, March.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
That's what I'm talking about, my ge, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (39:13):
We're still chasing, We're still right yeah, yeah, I got
that coming out, and my corgnak is getting ready to
drop my yack.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
Two months what's the name, what's the name it's called yet?
Why see I kept my yack.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Okay, that's what.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
That's fine.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
And uh my other my other thing that I got
going on is I'm going on to a April second.
They got five dates, so God bless dope man more bags.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
Yeah, I'm just disturbing the peace out here. Bro, I'm
jaying all over the country, bar misfoots, barbecues.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Anybody who got that bag and is there, and now
you gotta put a helmet on.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
They're giving out one hundred and fifty thousand to get
you a helmet. Wet. They got the mouse, they got
the other. We gotta find me, yeah help.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Yeah, yeah, I'm killing calf managing Many Fresh only with
the helmet on the No Bow Corporate production.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Yeah yeah, the helmet.
Speaker 5 (40:13):
Were gonna give up a danger mouse helmet something word
gonna create a.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Whole other so get Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
So I got I got a reckless weekend that I'm doing.
And what reckless weekend is? I like, I reach out
to artists who want to do it, and we got
from Monday Friday morning to Monday morning to do songs
and whatever.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
We do, we put it out and we split it
fifty to fifty. There is no middle man.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
There is no you know, nobody that that no script
that somebody could tell you don't do the fucking song
that way or whatever, and all of that.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
You start on Friday morning, we ind on Monday morning.
I need a reckless recrest weekend, reckless weekend, reckless week
You see my daughter calling me on this.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
She reckless every weekend, So we need a reckless weekend.
Let's get it, man.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
I appreciate y'all pulling up. Man, it's an honor to
being the presence of your legends. Like I said, I'm
a fan first. And you know, we had a relationship
behind the scenes with the Yeah That Man. Y'all continue
to stay blessed, healthy, key winning man.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Much love to both of y'all.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
March twenty sixth, the album Yeah Reckless Weekend bleak dropping
on there.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
We don't care.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
We all solo highlight at us. The money is in
the bag towards it everything. It's rock solid man, many
fresh juwe you know what it is. Legends. For more
podcasts from iHeart Radio, visit iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or
wherever you listen to your favorite shows app and you
(41:46):
can follow me on any social media platform under the
name Memphis Bleak.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
You see anybody fraud in flagging
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