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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hey, then, folks, it is Thursday, March fifth, and schools
are closed, local government offices all closed, and people are
being told to quite literally lock your doors.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Because there is a killer on the loose. And with that,
welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ on what
is not just an overnight developing story, but robes are
developing story. In the past few hours and even a
few minutes here. We have seen man hunts before, we
have seen public being told to be on the lookout.
Somebody is armed and dangerous robes. This one has a
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level of urgency and danger to it, the likes of
which we're not used to seeing every day.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yes, the alerts that are coming out of southern Utah
are for lack of a better word, scary, scary as hell.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
I we're in that area.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
This is a strange and mysterious manhunt and that we're
not getting a lot of details. But yet to have
schools closed for the rest of the week, babe, not
just today. They're saying kids won't be going to school
for the remainder of the week. Government building shut down,
even health clinics in.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
The area are closed today.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
And this is all because and we just found this
out a short while ago. Three women have been found
dead in two different locations, and.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
The area we're talking about is Wayne County, Utah. This
has spread though beyond Wayne County in that surrounding counties
have now been putting their people on alert. So we're
talking about Robes a big chunk of southern central and
even eastern I think they said parts of Utah under
this alert. But it started Robes with just initially them
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telling the public to lock your door, stay inside, and
we didn't have all the details about exactly why they
were being told this. But just in the time since
we got up and started working and the new details
came out and Robes, I don't even know if they're
telling us how they're connecting these deaths, but the deaths
of three women has triggered all this.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Yes, so they have not told us, by the way,
how they're connected. We know that two women were found
dead on a popular hiking trail and then another woman
was found dead in her home. Again, all the victims
were women. This is all the information we have about
the victims. One of the women was in her thirties,
another was in her sixties, and the other was in
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her eighties.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I beyond with you. I guess it's all the true
crime we watch. When I hear three women dead, I
hear about a hiking trail. I thought somebody might have
been targeting young women, I thought in their twenties or
their thirties or something like that, out hiking, out jogging,
out doing thirties, sixties, eight eighties.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
And here's the deal.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
If these were targeted killings, like a family member going
after other family members, they probably they almost certainly would
not be putting out alerts like this.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
We'll tell you this is scary. Can you imagine police telling.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
You lock your doors, turn your lights on, leave your
all your lights on overnight, make try to be with
other people, don't be alone. These are the types of
things residents are being told.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
And this is deeply.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Concerning because officials haven't said how these women died or
how they're all connected. We do have a vehicle that
police are looking for, but other than that, it is
an absolute mystery as to what happened, who they're looking for,
and what this person may have done or what they're
afraid this person may do, and.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Where this person might be. It's a super vehicle. They
have a license plate that they're putting out and so
they know they have some level of detail. They know
who they're after to some degree. Is that car register
that person? Who knows? But the area were talking about,
or it's about three hours south of Salt Lake City.
That's the best reference most people have to Utah, but
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Salt Lakes it is about three hours south. It's getting
close to the what New Mexico. It's the Arizona border. Yes,
down there, get my geography right. So that's the area
we're talking about. But the surrounding areas now ropes and
the was it the Utah Department of Public Safety or
the one that's communicating right now. I haven't seen a
press conference, they haven't gone in front of cameras.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
In fact, it's quite interesting with these very alarming alerts.
The Wayne County Sheriff's Office put this out on Facebook
that they will not be answering to press and that
may mean that all hands on deck.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
They are just out there looking for this person.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
They said, all updates will come from the Wayne County
Sheriff's Office Facebook page.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
But you know you've got.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
The courthouse closed today, the community health centers closed today.
This is something that you know residents are flooding with questions.
They even said please do not call the Sheriff's department
or nine one one with questions. We're going to Here's
exactly what they told residents. This was the official alert.
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As this remains an active investigation with the suspect at large,
law enforcement is urging residents in the Tory and surrounding
area to take extra precautions, such as locking doors, remaining
at home or with others, and being vigilant about surroundings.
Please report any suspicious activity to.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Nine one one. Can you imagine?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I mean, they don't what's going on. They've shut down
a fraction of the state allmost because someone is on
the loose and someone is killing people. We don't know.
Like you said, Roe, we don't know how these women
were killed. But it seems robes the alert they're putting
out they are connecting the deaths in some way, But
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we have no idea how why to women hiking and
another woman at home are and why they are dead.
I again a lot of man hunt stories. We've covered
these for our decades in our career and were used
to seeing that. Do not approach. Consider the suspect armed
and dangerous. Bro this is I don't know if I've
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seen the type of alert they put out on this one,
telling this huge swath of people to actually lock your door,
stay inside, lights on, hunkered down.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
The lights on for whatever reasons scared me the most.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
I don't know why, Like why would I need to
keep all my lights on to keep somebody away? And
I actually looked up toy Utah just to get a
sense of this area and what the situation is going.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
To feel like and be like.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
But it's described as a charming small town and it's
a gateway to the Capitol Reef National Park. It's called
a high desert base camp for hiking, fishing, scenic drives.
So this is a place where people come to hike
and to fish and to visit. And it's supposed to
be stunning sixty eight hundred feet. I actually said, I
looked at the pictures. I would like to visit this area.
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It's gorgeous, it's peaceful, it's quiet. That area of Utah.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Doesn't have, you know, it's interesting.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
We think about this search for Savannah Guthrie's mother right now,
Nancy Guthrie.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
It looks like similar terrain. This is more of a
rural area.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
It's in this gorgeous high desert, so it's not like
some bustling, busy place where there are cameras and you know,
police officers everywhere. This seems to be a sleepy western
small town. So to have something this frightening and urgent happening,
is the area equipped.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
To handle that.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
The FBI did say at around eleven pm last night
that they are aware of the situation and are monitoring
the development. So this sounds like a massive, major manhunt
happening in an area that you would never expect something
like this to happen.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Well, that's the thing where you said, oh they equipped,
it's certainly capable. They don't see this type of thing
all the time with this type of attention. The other
thing that wrote the terrain, I mean, this seems like
fairly remote area. We're talking about hiking trails. Who are
they looking for? Where are they are? What are they surgeon?
But they are what they did mention as you said,
a vehicle will give you them details about that vehicle
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and the other thing that residents are being told to do.
All right, we'll continue here on this Thursday, March fifth, following.
What is an absolute still. This is right now, folks,
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as we record this. This is a minute by minute
story being updated out of Wayne County, Utah, where there
is an urgent manhunt going on for at least Robes
that they haven't said a suspect or a suspect description.
They are only giving us a suspect vehicle. But they
have found three women dead, one in their thirties, one
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or sixties, one in their eighties. Two of them were
found on a high viking trail and police out there
and several counties are telling their people to lock your doors,
keep your lights on, and they have shut down schools,
they have shut down city government, local government out there,
and this is happening now. This vehicle Robes, I mean,
if they have a vehicle, they can connect it back
to some body. But it could be a stolen vehicle.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yeah, that is true. I didn't think about that. Obviously.
It could be a stolen vehicle. And this is something
that we are going to continue to follow because there
could be hour by hour, minute by minute developments. But
right now, yes, police are searching for a twenty twenty
two white Subaru outback. They have the license plate number
U five six zero YF and it seems like with
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that information they'd be able to connect some sort of
dots pretty quickly. We haven't gotten any specific specific information
about the suspect, but this is concerning. Look, this is
the alert that folks got about schools, and I just
thought this was interesting how they worded it. Due to
unfolding events in the county. Out of an abundance of
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caution and concern for student and public safety, schools will
be closed tomorrow and Friday. We will also have counselors
in place to support students when we are back in
session next week. We will communicate updates as things unfold.
But they have counselors in place for next week. Kids
aren't going to school for the rest of the week.
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It's that's You would think that they would just be
today thinking Okay, they'll probably catch their guy or things
will quiet down. The fact that they've closed it for
the rest of the week is alarming, and then having
counselors in place. We don't know who these women were,
if they are local residents, if they're tourists passing through,
given the area and how this is certainly a tourist
destination or a place where people do come to visit
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to look at all the natural beauty, so we don't
know anything about that, but I just thought that was interesting.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
And this is I mean, this is a tiny community
out here, right. This isn't some bustling metropolis, so you
could imagine a lot tight knit. These folks do know
each other. But the counselor part already is interesting. But
also I mean, it is traumatic if you're in a
small community, no matter what, if you know the person
or not. Just to think that dead people are being
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found and we don't know how this is trauma right now,
just at home going to sleep at night with lights on.
I'm sure families were gathered together. I am so sure
that somebody was assigned to stay up all night at
several houses in this area.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Wouldn't you do that? Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (11:33):
It feels like the Purge, you know when they say,
you know, just for twenty four hours.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
But to think and that us survive the night.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Survive the night.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
These alerts came out late last night. I'm imagining some
folks probably were in bed already.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
We go to bed around eight pm. We would have
completely missed this.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
So to think you're waking up hearing this news thinking,
oh my god, I left my doors, and like this
is a community where you would leave your doors.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
A lot a lot of people are going to wake
up robes without they went to bed last night not
knowing why. Correct, they're going to get up today going
what the actual hell y'all can tell us this?
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Yes, government buildings closed, schools closed. I'm sure a lot
of offices and certainly businesses will be closed as well,
because when you're told to shelter in place, to remain
with others, to remain home if you can, they said,
and literally the shelter and place order was put in.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
I just I'm with you. We have covered so many manhunts.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
I have never seen the alerts like this and the
precautions being taken, schools being closed for multiple days, counselors
at the ready. Look, maybe it's an area that isn't
used to this sort of thing, but this seems extraordinary
given the fact that there's just a guy on the
loose who may or may not have done something untoward
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to these women. They obviously know more than they're telling us,
which is fairly typical. But my goodness, this is something
that has peaked a lot of folks interests in certainly
deeply concerning for the people who are affected because to
hear that sheriff's departments in central, southern and eastern Utah
are all issuing this sort of an alert to all
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of their residents.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Snuggrinded.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
It's not a highly populated area, but still that is
a large area to cover.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
And then the last detail did want to mention that
jumped out as they're telling people to take make sure
you know where your car keys are. One town is
reminding people of that. You mentioned the lights. We don't
usually hear that when we're talking about a man hunt
and some of these smaller details of what folks should do. Sure,
lock your doors, go home kind of a thing, but man,
some of these details and so we were that made
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me think of it because we were talking about the
vehicle and then it could be stolen. So maybe they're
trying to give Maybe they know this person is maybe
trying to hop from car to car and looking for
a way to get around. But this is a mystery.
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