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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hey, that folks, Thursday, March fifth, and the news just
keeps oncoming. Christinome is out. Welcome to this breaking news
episode of Amy and TJ. Just wanted to hop on
because the news is just coming across. The Secretary of
Home Land Security, Christinome, who is maybe robes outside the President,
might have been the most high profile faiths of the
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administration in many days and weeks. She's been fired. No
other way to put this, is it.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yes, I mean she's been demoted. I think maybe would
be a better way to put it. But she, Yes,
she has been fired from the position. She has been
removed from the position of the Department of Homeland Security,
the secretary of DHS. She's now being given a position
that is well Son's made up to be honest, but
it is kind of in a way because it is
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a position that has not existed before.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
So yeah, and Christy Nome, we should let you know
this news is coming to us just a matter of
minutes before we hopped on here. But she still is
keeping a commitment she had in Nashville, Tennessee. She had
a live event and we can actually see a live
feed of her taking questions. This is a law enforcement event.
So she is continuing in the role, but it is
going to be over by the end of this month.
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Christy Nome is the headline, folks. A Department of Homeland
Security Secretary Christie Nome is out. The President is replacing her,
putting her somewhere else. We do know. This is from
the President himself. We put out a pretty long post
explaining he's removing her and also telling us he already
has a replacement.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yes, he is going to replace Christy Nome with Senator
Oklahoma Senator Mark Wayne Mullen. He is going to become
the Department of Homeland Security, but he does have to
be confirmed by the Senate, so there is that hurdle
that will still have to take place for he is
officially named DHS secretary.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Who knows about that. He's going to be going before
his colleagues, his fellow colleagues. You can see if he
can get it across the finish line with the votes.
I kept trying to think of what the votes and
when this would happen, and the hearings we have to
have now and going through all of this so that
process is to come. But Rove, this is there a
member of the administration who had been under more fire
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than Secretary Nome. That has to be no, certainly not.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
And in recent days even the President had whispered, and
there were whispers and rumors and articles being written that
Christy Nome possibly might be replaced because the President the
final straw for him was he did not appreciate her
testimony in front of that committee where she was grilled
about this expensive ad campaign that we all saw in.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Airports across this country.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
And she told Senator Kennedy, I believe that President Trump
okayed it. Well, apparently President Trump said yeah, I did
not okay, And so for a lot of folks they
felt like he was.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Pissed en off.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Now, given all the events in Minnesota and certainly a
lot of the headlines that have been going around for weeks,
this was the final straw.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
And this is what the President said in a post
on truth social announcing to everyone that yes, she was
being replaced. Quote, I am pleased to announce the highly
respected United States Senator from the great state of Oklahoma,
Mark Wayne Mullen, will become the United States Secretary of
Homeland Security THEHS, effective March thirty first, twenty twenty six.
The current Secretary, Christy Nome, who has served us well
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and has had numerous and spectacular results, especially on the border,
will be moving to Special Envoy for the Shield of
the Americas, our new security initiative in the Western Hemisphere.
We are announcing on Saturday in durral Florida. I thank
Christy for her service at Homeland. Now. He has another
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longer paragraph after that, but just talking about the new guy.
It was interesting at the top ropes. He didn't announce
the first thing out of his mouth was the announcement
of a new person versus saying I'm doing something with
the other person. She seemed almost like an afterthought in
the message one.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Hundred percent, and you have to think that was by design.
He just wants her to go away. He doesn't want
to hear her name, He doesn't want to hear the
complaints and the uproar about how she led the Department
of Homeland Security. So I think, yeah, he was like
out with the old, in with the new, let's start
with the new. He was producing it like, let's get
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the big announcement here.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
That I really want you to focus on.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I want you to focus on how excited I am
about the new Department of Homeland Security.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Oh yeah, that other person.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yes, she's gone. We've got her in another position. That
we're going to have her oversea. That sounds like, honestly
a Marvel comic book.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
I don't know TuS the Shield of the Americas. We
don't know what that is. A security initiative in the
Western hemisphere, a little vague. We'll get the details this weekend.
I guess she will too about what her new job is.
Does she have a say in this this job? Is
she have to just be reassigned? Can she say no,
thank you for that gig.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I think she is most likely going to say thank you, sir,
and I will do I will serve as you ask.
But it is fascinating to watch her on this podium
and to listen to some of the anchors wondering because
no one is asking her. Anyone in that room has
a microphone, can ask for a question.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
She is literally taking Q and A.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
But these are not journalists, these are law enforcement officials, officers.
So the speculation was maybe the folks in the room
don't even know. That's how new this information is. And frankly,
I was we were done for the day and you said, babe,
there's breaking news. And look, unless you're paying close attention,
this is something that could slip by. So she has
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not had to speak on it. Of course, every news
outlet is closely monitoring this press conference to see if
anyone asks her about it.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
The President didn't have to do what he did in
the message either. Yes, she didn't get top billing. Yes,
maybe she was an afterthought, but he Robes did say
pleasant things about her, and he didn't have to.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
And he thanked her for her service.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Yeah, he could have said something nasty. First of all,
he could have not said anything. He made a choice
to do that as well. And maybe this will I
don't know him, maybe just being a nice guy. But
she has had a rough rough go for the past
several months, certainly starting in Minneapolis with what happened on
the streets. But Robes, that's got to be it's got
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to be the start of her undoing the Alex Pretty death,
not the Renee Good, but Alex Pretty. When she came
out and called him a domestic terrorist. When we all
saw video with our plane eyes told us something else.
That was an awful situation, Robes, and she had an
opportunity here at these hearings to clear the air, and
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it was not a good look for her.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yes, we actually talked about this the only remedy look.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
I think.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I do believe no matter how you feel about Christinome
and her policy and even her delivery of her policy
or the president's policy, I think we all know that
sometimes something looks or sounds one way, and then once
you actually see the video you get more information, you
realize it's another thing. And it would have been such
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a smart move on her part to acknowledge that because
people we're not dumb, and I think as leaders, when
you treat the American people like we're stupid, like we
don't see what we see, or you're telling us what
we are looking at isn't real or isn't true, or
is something altogether different, you are now going to completely
lose all trust with the American people, Republicans and Democrats,
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because when you're saying to us something we know not
to be true with a smile on your face, and
then you refuse to apologize for it or say you
know what, you're right. I didn't characterize that correctly. I
should have taken more time. You know how far that
would have gone in re establishing trust. You can make
a mistake and then say, look, I am going to
do better and I apologize. She doubled down, and that
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certainly there weren't even Republicans necessarily defending her.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I know she could have got you say, it would
have gone a long way. But it went a long
way the other direction in making me think that we're
not dealing with serious people. We're looking at the video.
It's okay, it's okay. You're an adult. It's okay. You
know it's adults. Sometimes we have to say I'm sorry.
Sometimes you say my bad. And even if you don't
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want to apologize, you could at least say I have
new information now. And that wasn't It's very simple stuff.
The guy is dead, we saw him shot. You called
him a terrorist. Okay, you didn't have all the information.
That's not hard to do. And if for an adult
under oath sitting in that stage, who is that important
of a high profile role for the American people to
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not even just be what is the point? What is
the pride part in politics that you can't say you
made a mistake.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
I don't know. I don't know the answer to that.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
That was stunning in that hearing room. It's okay, lady,
it's okay.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Yeah, Alex pretty had a cell phone in his hands.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
It's okay, I misspoke. I didn't have it all and
now did I see it? That's not how you know what.
They didn't even ask for an apology. Can you just
say that labeling him as a terrorist was wrong? Do
you think he's a terrorist? As you sit here today?
She wouldn't even answer that.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I know these hearings are So you start watching these
hearings and you say, I don't even want to continue.
I want to turn this off, because when you can't
see people speaking the truth, telling the truth, being honest,
being real, when you just see people refusing to acknowledge reality,
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it's numbing.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
At a certain point.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
And so, look, she is out of a job, but
she's moving into another one. It'll be really interesting to
see if this is actually a position where she will
be visible in any way.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Highly doubted, highly doubt it. Get a good look at
this press conference. We will not see her for the
rest of the month. Probably she has until the thirty first,
they say ropes, I'd be very surprised if we see her,
and yes, we talk about what happened in Minneapolis, how
high profile that was as far as a disaster for her,
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But we saw other things Robes. You just mentioned those
two hundred million dollars in ads. Well, there's also some
luxury jets that might have been her undoing. I continuing
here with the breaking news Christy Nome, DHS Secretary of Robe.
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Some people might have said they saw this coming, but
the Department of Homeland Security, she has been fired by
the President, demoted certainly to a new position. We don't
know exactly what that is yet. The Special Envoy for
the Shield of the Americans, a new security initiative in
the Western hemisphere. Not kidding that is he That's what
it says. Man, She's taken over our hemisphere. So maybe
this is a new it's an upgrade.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
I was just wondering, was he trying to make it
sound bigger.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Sounds bigger. Really, this is a demotion, so she was
just dealing with the Homeland. Now she's got a hemisphere,
so maybe he is making it sound.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
But I feel like that is exactly what he was
trying to do to try and make her feel better
about getting a lower position.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Ah and some people you see what was going on
on the streets of Minneapolis and the job she's done,
and what's been happening with border agents and okay, take
issue with her job performance and stuff we can see,
but rose behind the scenes what might have done her
in as well. There's been so many reports that she
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likes to roll in luxury. Christine ellm is H has
been known to not be afraid to spend money to
upgrade and a couple of jets that were perched to
the tune of one hundred and fifty plus million I
think it was one hundred and seventy million dollars for
the Department of Homeland Security one of them to upgrade
her own plane that she travels around on. It just
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set off alarm bells. There were tons of reports about
it's just not again, this is the department, this is
the administration. What was I can't even remember the name
of the thing. Elon Musk, what was his department saving
all this was? Yeah, the part of those department, They
saving all this money. And now it seems that was
another issue that seeing brobe to go along with what
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we saw in the hearing. I didn't even realize the
ads cost that much.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I didn't either, and apparently there was limited it was
a limited competitive bid.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
And oh yeah, oh god.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah, so there was all of that, and then they
made a point to say she was prominently featured throughout
the entire att It was basically a Christie Noome. It
was adah where Christi Nome looked powerful and beautiful, Yes,
earning her nickname.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Ice Barby, name Ice Barby. But yeah, so there was
a lot.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Of finger pointing when it came to all of those
choices she made.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
In addition to yes, what happened Minneapolis, it wasn't just Minneapolis.
There were a number of issues.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
But the reports are in several places that the thing
that did her in Robes in fact, was those ads
and her not just the ads, but how she performed
at the hearing when she's questioned about it by a
Republican up there, Louisiana Senator Kennedy was questioning her, and look,
if it was a Democrat, he would have been yelling
at her, but he was asking her very pointed question
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Robes about why this has happened, why this much money,
and who gave you the okay? And the problem is
who she said okay?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Did Yeah, she said President Trump did, and I believe
Senator Kennedy said, mister Trump called him and said, just
so you know, that's not what happened. So he verbally
contradicted Christy Nome, or you could say Christy Nome said
something that either wasn't true or President Trump didn't appreciate
or both.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
It was a bad It was one of the worst
moments of the hearing to hear him question her about
why do we need to see your face and spend
two hundred million dollars to promote you? Will to promote you?
She said, well, the President said it was okay, and
that might have been her undoing robes. This is a
huge story because she has been a huge name in
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the middle of a huge topic in this country and
now she's out. And by the way, robes the Department
of Homeland Security seems pretty damn important right now.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
It certainly does.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
It's not funded. It's not funded, and it's not lead.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
But we did get as the second part of President
Trump's truth social post, he went on to talk about
the person who he wants to take Christy Nome's place,
and I say that because he does have to be
confirmed by the Senate. But here is what he said
about Mark Wayne. He said, serving ten years in the
United States House of Representative and three in the Senate,
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Mark Wayne has done a tremendous job representing the wonderful
people of Oklahoma, where I won all seventy seven out
of seventy seven counties in twenty sixteen, twenty twenty, and
twenty twenty four. A MAGA warrior and former undefeated professional
MMA fighter, Mark Wayne truly gets along well with people
and knows the wisdom and courage required to advance our
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America First agenda. As the only Native American in the Senate,
Mark Wayne is a fantastic advocate for our incredible tribal communities.
Mark Wayne will work tirelessly to keep our border secure,
stop migrant crime, murderers and other criminals from illegally entering
our country, and the scourge of illegal drugs.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
And make America safe again.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Mark Wayne will make a spectacular Secretary of Homeland Security.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
All so, we'll say he gets approved. Haking get approval
through the Senate, but a shakeup, for sure, one that
many maybe saw coming, one that many maybe were hoping for.
For quite some time, but Christ you know, is out
at the Department of Homeland Security again. Folks didn't expect
to do this one. Just went to hop on and
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Speaker 2 (16:29):
Can you