Meet the Parents with Ben Stiller’s Daughter Ella

This is what it’s really like to be the daughter of Ben Stiller and Christine Taylor.

Ella Stiller joins the chaos and confesses to Gia she is a full-blown Bravo fangirl!

Plus, she talks growing up in a famous household, how she handles anxiety, and the role she landed that caused a major freak-out!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey guys, and welcome back to another episode of Casual KAOSS.
This week, we have a very exciting guest. You might
have seen her on your screens. Ella Stiller. Welcome to Casual.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Thank you so much. I'm so exciting to you. I'm
happy to be here. I'm so excited.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Well, and Ella is also a Bravo fan. Yeah, major,
So we have to we'll get into all of this.
But I recently just moved to Jersey City. Okay, so
whereabouts are you?

Speaker 2 (00:28):
I'm on the Upper West Side.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
You're living in New York?

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yeah, fun, I grew up here. I was born in
La and then my family moved here when I was
eight years old, and I've been on the Upper West
Side ever since.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Basically, Oh, I love that. So I just moved out
of my parents' house. Are you still with your parents or.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
My own plate? I'm gone, Okay, I'm in my own place,
seven blocks from where I grew up.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
You got to keep it close to home, right was
That was like my biggest thing. I chose Jersey City
because my family and boyfriend are still in Jersey but
Jersey City at least gives me like that accessibility to
be really close to New York. So I was like,
it's the perfect happy medium perfect. I still feel like
I see the city. I have great views of the city.

(01:15):
I could basically touch the Statue of Liberty.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
I'm like, this is great.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
I'm close enough and this is perfect for me. I
just like when you grow up in the city, I
feel like it's so cool and you just have like
this like gossip girl like mentality, like Upper East Side,
like just like gives that.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
And I mean I would have.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
I would love that. So maybe eventually, Yeah, I'll make
my way, but I feel.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Like a good start. Yeah. But I also I also
really like respect staying close to home, and I like
my whole family we're all in the city still. My
brother's in college right now. He's but he's also just downtown. Yeah,
we all stayed. Yeah, and I kind of can't imagine.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
It's all it's I feel like though, when you're in
the city, you're going to school in the city, there's
just so much going on that you're running around all
over anyway, so you're in your own world. Yeah, exactly,
Like I went to Rutgers, so it was different, Like
I was still in Jersey again, still stayed close, but
I just I didn't love the college town of Rutgers.

(02:22):
So I went home a lot. It didn't really feel
like I was away.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah. I feel like in New York.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
You could kind of make that feel for yourself, but
like I was in New Brunswick, there's nothing.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
No, I really did that exciting. I literally again went
to college a different seven blocks from where I grew up.
So just the whole.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
So did you, I know, I know you. I know
you graduated from Julliard I did, but was so did
you dorm there?

Speaker 2 (02:55):
I did? Okay, so you for the first year you.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Still wanted to get that college.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah. So they require first years to live in the dorms,
which is just to sort of get everyone friends. Yeah,
immersed in the experience. I went during COVID. So it
were you a year younger than me? I graduated twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Four, okay, I was twenty twenty three.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Okay, yeah, yeah, So my first year was the height
of COVID. Moved into the dorms, it was.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
It was crazy, and they let you move in during COVID.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
We okay, So we were online for a month or two,
I would say, two months on Zoom doing acting school
and you were in the door though, and that some
people got to some people moved in early, but most
people were at home. And then the new like phase
started where they moved everyone in and we started doing

(03:49):
in person.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
So was that end of first first semester?

Speaker 2 (03:53):
It was like November okay, twenty twenty. Wow.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yeah, So you grew up in a very famous household.
Parents are Ben Stiller and Christine Taylor. When did you
really notice that your family was different?

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Oh my god, I honestly have no idea, right, and
I want to hear your whole experience yet this too,
because it's it's obviously two very different worlds. But it
is like this weird thing of being a kid and
not understanding why everyone in the world feels like they
have ownership of your parents them, Like I don't really know,

(04:32):
And I've actually recently kind of been like trying to
think about this kind of thing of like when did
I realize I think it's just like I kind of
it was always that I knew, and it was always like, Okay, well,
when we go out with dad, like people take pictures
and come out to it, and but I don't know
when I realized that that's not the same for everyone else.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Yeah, was it maybe when you were I feel like
for me, it was when I was in elementary school,
middle school, high school, because I went to public schools.
So I mean in Jersey they have like really good
public schools. I mean, I think the only reason why
in high school I wanted to go to a private
school because I thought it was going to get me
into like such an amazing college. But I ended up

(05:17):
just going to my public school and everything works out
the way it's supposed to do. But I think because
my family kind of started it all together in a way,
even though we weren't the face of the Real Housewives
New Jersey, we were just like the kids of my mother.
But my mom started out with like probably one of

(05:37):
the most iconic She started out season one by flipping
the table, so right away she was like this housewife, yes,
that everyone looked up to and loved. And so then
throughout the years, obviously just like my family went through
so much on reality TV, like our whole lives were

(05:58):
just like demonstrated to the world, which I'm sure you
can relate. Yeah, and it was I want to say
it was when I was in elementary school and then
obviously when the legal stuff was going on and my
sisters were so little, and there's just news like every
news channel you could think of lined up in front

(06:20):
of my house, like across the street from the gate.
Like then really crazy stuff was happening, and it's like, Okay,
we are clearly not a normal family and this is
where things are and what's.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Really crazy that I always think, like, as such a
huge Housewives fan, as like I always say to people,
like the only the only people I really feel starstruck by,
and like the genuine sense of the word starstruck is
our Housewives and Bravo people Like I when I meet

(06:51):
actors and stuff that I look up to, like there's
an overwhelming feeling of like inspiration and admiration and all that.
But like when I see a Bravo person in real life,
like the world stops moving. But I always I'm like,
why is it so different? Like why And it's like
I think it is because like we see your guys's

(07:12):
real lives on screen, and there's just a difference between
watching an actor play Oh I loved them in this
movie in this movie and that show whatever, But like
I know so much about your family, Yeah, I feel
like telling me that I'm wrong.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
But I feel like there's a sense of like protecting
your personal life. Yes, yeah, when you are an actress
or actor, yeah, and even a model.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
For that matter, you know, m h and yeah, and
I also I've been This is all stuff I've actually
really been thinking about a lot recently, because there's also
like a different level of celebrity with like the Taylor Swift,
the Beyonces, like pop stars and stuff, because it again
like it's a version of themselves that we're seeing. It's
like we're not seeing them play a character as much

(07:59):
as everyone who's ever performing anyway is playing a character.
But like there's a difference between when you feel like
you know someone and you feel like you like you're like, yeah,
because this happened, and yeah, well as much as with
the actors, there are.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
The time yeah, i feel like I've watched you grow up. Yeah,
everybody says that's amazing, and it's you know, it's a
very like warming comment obviously, but then again it's also
like yeah, like it's like I know, you feel like
you did watch me grow up, which yes, you did.
But then there's like so much more even to my

(08:35):
life that people don't see and that people don't know
because again, you're filming for three months out of the year,
and exactly it's like not like it's not like they're
with you.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Did you when did you know that you wanted to
do reality stuff yourself?

Speaker 1 (08:52):
I think, honestly, yeah, Like I graduated college and I
really thought I wanted to be a lawyer.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
So I've always said it since I was little because
of my parents' legal issues and stuff, and that's kind
of what the fans had instilled in their head. So
when I chose to go a different path, they like
were not happy with it, and that was something that
was really hard for me to deal with because I'm like,
this is my life, though, and you guys should always
support me and always love me for like what I

(09:21):
choose and where I'm at, and I have I've never
been happier in my life. Like this past year has
been just incredible.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
You have done some crazy Congratulations on your wins.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
This is not about me.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
We need to come on. That's awesome, Like that's so cool.
So much like when I knew that I was going
to be doing this like a few weeks ago, and
then this week I find out that you won first
is awesome. It was crazy, You're amazing, It's so cool. Seriously, No, and.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
That was the hardest but best thing I ever did
in my life.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah, I mean I can imagine.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yeah. And so then after college, I got a desk job,
you know, normal nine to five, and I was mentoring
a lawyer and I just hated the desk thing. It's
like I was dying. I was like losing just focus
and like falling asleep at the desk. And I was like,

(10:18):
this is not good for me, Like I'm bored. And
this life just like lifestyle, and I'm sure you can relate.
It's fast paced, it's go, go go. You don't know
what the next day entails, like you don't know what
you're doing tomorrow, and I like that. I like being
on the go. So I don't know. After college, I

(10:39):
just started with social media a little more. Then Next
Gen fell into my lap. Then it was this podcast
and Special Forces and I was like, Okay, now i
feel like I'm creating my brand. And now I feel
like this is something that I'm proud of and I
hope everybody understands that. And now I think the fans

(10:59):
are starting to real, Wow, she's doing it. Yeah, And
I'm not really getting as many comments as like what
happened to law school? Why didn't you pursue that? Oh?
Was school too hard? And it's like I did try,
I took my ausats, I did, I did it all.
But it just in the in this moment, like when
I was doing everything, I wasn't in it. I had

(11:22):
so many other things going on where I was like
I'm happy, money's good, I'm I'm doing the thing, and
like this is what is making me happy right now
and we're in our twenties. We should do what we
want to do right now. Totally back to the question

(11:47):
though about like when you thought you when you thought,
like you've realized it, like do you think just like
seeing your parents get photographed like.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
That your parents ever have Like it was I think
the bigger station. Maybe I don't think so, yeah, because
it was just like, remember, I don't think so, it's
just my life. I think the big thing that is
the like not even just like paparazzi stuff, but like
just people coming up to us constantly going out in public.
It was like never like a normal activity. It was

(12:17):
never like if my dad was coming with us. It
was never gonna just be we're going out to dinner
or we're going for a walk or whatever. My in
the house I grew up in in La a tour
bus would come by almost every day and say, this
is where Ben Stiller lives and whatever, and we would
if we were playing outside, we'd have to like run inside.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Wow. Yeah, Like there were little things like little things that. Yeah,
I mean, when did you realize that? Like, when did
you realize your dad's legacy?

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Well, I always knew. I always knew that he obviously
was very like prolific, and I was like done a
lot of stuff and made a lot of movies and
as a writer and a director and an actor and whatever.
But I honestly think in the last like five six

(13:12):
six years, like when I think when I started Juilliard.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Like like like really loving your wild.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
And I had always sort of wanted to be an actor,
like I did the play I started doing plays when
I was five years old, six years old. Always loved it.
But for a long time I was like, but I'm
not gonna I'm not gonna be an actor. I don't
want to be like my parents. I don't want to
be like my parents, Like, you know, I was kind
of like trying to push away from it.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
And I was going to ask you that as well.
So did you feel like you wanted to kind of
create your own legacy?

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yes, of course, like I I you're you're doing it.
Thank you, thank you about that.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
But yeah, you kind of wanted to be different.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
I wanted to be different. But unfortunately, when you get
the bug, as they say, the acting by like, you
can't there's no cure. Yeah, and my parents put me
in theater when I was really young, not to try
to push me into acting at all. In fact, I
think they probably would have been really happy if, like
I wasn't into it because it's such a hard it is,

(14:15):
it's just a hard life and a hard industry. But
they put me in theater, and I'm very, very very
grateful for that, because I honestly just think all kids
should do theater. I think it's like the best thing
for social skills and empathy and like confidence and all
of that stuff.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
I have to agree. I mean, yeah, when I was little,
my mom put me in acting modeling, and it was
funny because I even wanted to do that when I
was When I was little. Yeah, then came to realize
obviously the industry is very difficult, and I think reality
TV is for me. Yeah. But when I was like
I was little, probably when I first started, really when
my mom first started Real Housewives, because they kind of

(14:55):
showed a glimpse of me like doing that when I
was young. But I almost got the role for the
movie The Tooth Fairy.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Stop it.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
The Tooth Fairy was Destiny Whitlock, and.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
She was sher arch nemesis.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Of course not first not, but so you know, she
was just like, you know, paler skin, beautiful girl. But
they wanted me to look like just a plain Jane
white girl, you know, and that, and my mom looked
at them and was like, we go down to the
Jersey shore. My kid is in the sun. How do

(15:29):
you want me to just tell her she can't play
outside during the summer. So it was little things like
that where it was difficult, like I would make it
right there and then I just wouldn't pass the finish line,
and it was, you know, it came to the point
I did like I was like an extra in the
movie dou and in Gossip Girl, and little things like

(15:51):
that where I saw myself in the background as a
little girl. But then I was like, all right, walked
into New York Fashion Week when I was all I
was like, all right, you know that was my time. Yeah,
now now this is me. And it's funny because now
my mom was like I always push that stuff on
you when you were little, and I always wanted you
to like be an actress or an actor, and now

(16:14):
this is what happened.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
So it's like everything works out and everything happens the
way it should.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, exactly, and you get to be creative in the
way that's right for you. And yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
So then you always loved it when you were I.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Always loved it. And then it was what else did
you try? Horseback riding? I love horses. I was a
horse girl. And that was like, that was my moment
where I was like, I'm not gonna be actor. I
just want to ride horses my life, like whatever. And
then I just got so into theater and I fell
in love with musicals, and in middle school I got

(16:48):
really serious about it and I thought it and then
I was like, Okay, I am going to be an actor,
but I'm going to only be in musicals on Broadway
and that's like, my parents don't do that, so it's
very different. And then and then I I worked really
hard to do that. I've just never been like a
natural dancer, but I worked really hard, and I would
go to dance class every day and singing lessons and
all of it after school, and I focused really hard.

(17:10):
And I was the biggest theater kid at school. I
was bullied so hard, not in like a not in
an overt way, because I went to a very small,
progressive private school on the Upper West Side, where you know,
that kind of thing wouldn't be allowed. But I was
totally like cast aside for being the weird, intense theater

(17:31):
kid who cared too much about everything. But I didn't
care because I because I loved.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
It and how to dream where you were determined, ye,
you had a vision that yeah, this is what you want.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
And I was like all the social stuff, all the
like the parties, I don't get invited to that whatever,
it doesn't matter because I'd rather be like doing my thing.
And I look back and I like my heart breaks
for myself, but it's like it felt right, and it
was I don't know, like I really truly felt like
I had this calling that other people I could tell

(18:04):
in high school didn't, which I think is more normal
to like not know what you want to do and
have fun and experiment and try things and like. But
I kind of had this blessing and curse, which is
that like I knew what I was meant to do,
and I was going to do everything I could to
do it. So I did all like the summer programs

(18:24):
and stuff, and and then I did I did the
NYU summer program for musical theater and that was like
one of the hardest things ever. And that was when
I was like, Okay, I don't think I'm going to
do music. I'm so much happier to be like someone
who watches and screams in my car singing musically there.

(18:45):
So then I really started to focus on just straight acting.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
And I mean, and I think that I totally understand that,
because it's hard when you have parents that are in
the public eye, even my mom, you know, being a
reality TV star and such an icon just like your
parents like it. It's you don't subconsciously it's competition for

(19:11):
yourself because it's like, Okay, you want to be just
as good as them, and you know, live up to
that legacy and have that like sense of like pride
and I don't know, like it's like a weird feeling,
like that sense of like okay, I did it, yea,
And really it's you know, no matter what, you're always
going to get compared to your parents. And it's a

(19:33):
whole thing. And even being on next Gen because there's
a lot of Bravo kids. It's me, Brooks, Arianna, and Riley,
all four of our parents are in are on Bravo
and they have all created.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
I love it so much because of that, Like I
the whole NAPO baby thing is like it has become
such a thing over the last couple of years where
there's so much like hatred and and negative energy. And
my whole thing about it is just like if you

(20:04):
are if you were like born into a family where
everyone is doing this one thing. Like, by the way,
like my dad's parents were incredible actors. They were a
comedy duo and so he grew up in their footsteps
and he just made a documentary which is really incredible.
It's called Stiller and Mirror and Nothing is Lost. It's

(20:25):
on Apple. It's really amazing. Yeah, you'll love it because
it's really all about this, well.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Exchange the verse and I want you to text me now.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
It's so beautiful because he talks in the documentary about
how like he really he and his dad recorded so
much of their childhood. He has all these tapes and stuff,
so you get to see it, and my dad talks
about how like, of course, like, of course I became
an actor. Of course I went into the business like
it's all I grew up around. It's all I saw it,

(20:54):
Like for fun, his sister and him would like do
sketch comedy like just you know, on a Friday night,
like just because because what you're doing it's what that's
what your life is. And it's like it's so all
consuming and in hard ways but also in really beautiful
way where it's like this the legacy of like performance

(21:16):
and the impact that that has and art and artists
and you know what. I think in general, anyone whose
parents are really good at something, it would make a
lot of sense if the kids are also really gonna
just thing because of genetics, because.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
It inspires you to want to do that.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
I always say, it's a total mix of nature and nurture.
It's like you it's in your DNA, and that is
a fact. And then there's also like you grew up
around it, so of course, like I grew up going,
I grew up on sets, Like I would go and
I would sit there set and watch there and watch
everyone work, and you learn.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
There's gonna be a small part of you, Yeah, that's
gonna want to give.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
It a try. And I think it's like I as
much as there's so much negativity around it, because you know,
there's I understand people the nepotism thing is sure, it's real,
it totally can be real. But there's also a real
reality of like people not you know, knowing what everyone's

(22:16):
life is and the work and that's like what auditioning
is like and what all of it and whatever, and
no matter what you say, people are gonna say what
they want. I've just sort of accepted that. But like,
I just think that it's like I like to think
of it as like a really amazing thing and I
love to Like I love my family and I love
my family's legacy, and I feel very very privileged but

(22:39):
also very grateful and like inspired to be a part
of that and to feel like I can I can
add on to that and like to feel like my
grandmother who's passed away in twenty fifteen, Like to feel
like who I didn't get to know as an adult,
who now as I'm have been acting and performing to

(23:00):
play this summer. And the overwhelming thing that I've gotten
from people is like, you are you are so much
like your grandmother, So you're so much like Anne, and
and that I look like her, and that my energy whatever,
and it's that's been so most compliment it is, and
I feel so connected to her and my family like
because of that, and I feel like it's I don't know,

(23:21):
just spiritually, I feel very connected to it. And so
I just liked, I think it's an amazing thing, and
I think that makes so much sense that like, oh yeah,
and so on next gen like to see the the
kids of the housewives totally you know, totally different world.
But of course, but I don't see I don't. I
see it in such a like way of like, oh,
it's so great, because yeah, we don't.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
It's I feel like a lot of viewers would love
to see that. Though yes, their mothers were obviously their
mothers are still like amazing and icons and are still
creating their legacy, But how cool is it to now
see their children and so creat their own path and
be able to watch it. So same with you, Like
you know, you were in Happy Gilmore two and I

(24:04):
was fair and happy.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Okay, I had a still little cameo You're still insane.
It was a non speaking cameo. I improved a line,
made it in there insane. I'll take it. But yeah,
I didn't just like that. That was my first TV
job that was so special and so fun. I got
literally is my first job out of school. And I'm
working with Carrie Bradshaw, like not just Sarah Jessica Parker.

(24:29):
It's like Harry Bradshaw opening the door. And I was
freaking out, like freaking out. But that was one of
those things like when I got that audition, I was like, oh,
this is like I don't I don't know. I just
got the feeling. I was like, I can totally get that.
Like I think you get you get tapes for things,
you get auditions, you get you know, you read parts

(24:51):
and you kind of know where you don't know. And
I feel like all the things that I've done so far,
I've been like I felt really this like guttural connection
to like I think I can really really do that,
And like the play that I did this summer, it
was a similar thing. Like I read the script. And
this is why I'm bringing this up is because the
reason that I knew when I got the script for

(25:11):
this play it's like called Delaia off Broadway the summer.
It was the world premiere revenue play. It was the
greatest experience of my life. But when I got the script,
I knew I was gonna get it. Not because I
was like, oh, I got this. It was more that
there was just like this universe connection thing that was

(25:31):
happening because I read they started being the script and
on like page four something is the first Real Housewives reference?

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Are you kidding?

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Yes? And then it just keeps going and keeps going
and keeps going, and I was like, I have never
read a play with any Real Housewives references, let alone
this many where I'm doing like sudden strack like nayme
mom namo, like doing that in the in the play,
like Lisa Barlowe reference it like all of it, Like oh,
she's so funny, awesome, there's are all yeah, they're all amazing,

(26:02):
Like it's just the greatest franchise of all time is
the Real Housewives franchise, all of them, so.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
They're I'm the biggest fan. No, they're all incredible.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
But like Salt Lake City and I want to say,
I know you're friends with Brooks. Meredith Mark is my
favorite housewife of all time. I want to go on
the record and say, favorite housewife of all time.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Oh my god, well you Andy, you live in New York. Yeah,
we're filming for a next general. I mean, I'm also like,
I love Brooks. He's my best friend.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
He's amazing. Like I don't know him.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
I love Let's do lunch.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
I love you, I love you guys.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
Is always here. She's always here. She's the sweetest.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
I feel such a connection. I love her so much.
It was a recent realization. I was like, that's my
favorite house of all No offense to your incredible mother,
who is another obvious like Mount Rushmore, as they say
of housewives. But these days, Salt Lake Art.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
They're killing it though. Even my mom, like she recently
just started really watching Bravo within the last couple.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Of years, and so funny.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
It's hilarious because sometimes it's like when you're on a show,
you don't want to watch yourself, but I think it's
the best way to learn from yourself. So I love
watching me back on Next Gen or watching my podcast
back or anything like that, because I look at it
as a mirror view to be like, Okay, I see
what they did here, and I never want that to

(27:31):
happen again. I look at it as a total self reflection.
I don't look at it as I regret this or
I regret that. I look at it and I'm like, Okay,
now I know how I want to do it differently.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
That's so crazy to hear you say, because like it's
again totally different, but also like kind of the exact
same thing else you watch yourself on screen, especially, and
I'm like, for me, theater is always going to be
like the thing that's where I'm like I was born
to be on stage, Like this is where I am, Like,
this is where I'm the most myself and doing like

(28:03):
the best work. But I've been doing more film and
TV recently, Like I was just in LA for a
few months doing the new season of The Comeback, which
was again one of the best experiences ever. And that's
really excited to see that. But also I have a
hard time watching myself on screen, so in the things
I've done over the last year and a half since
I've graduated, like and just like that, like sitting literally

(28:26):
sitting there watching it like through my hands, trying like
not to not to judge it, not to you know,
put any sort of like well that was horrible, that
was great, whatever, But just like I think I only
really needed to watch it once, like, but I wanted
to watch it to be like to be okay with it.

(28:47):
You know, it's okay and it's good and it's out
there and whatever, but also to be like, Okay, so
I don't like that I did that, That's fine, Yeah,
next time, I'll probably do something else.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
But also, you know.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
You're so young too, like you are, and like we
both are, every day is a learning day.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
And I love what you were saying about not regretting things,
and this is you can't. This is in general a
really really big thing I talk about a lot in
my life is like I make an active choice every
day to not regret any like past mistakes, because it's
the word. It's such a useless feeling, and especially as
an actor or an artist, like it's just useless to

(29:28):
regret because you can't do anything to change it, so
instead you just think, like what did I learn from that?
And how is it going to like help me in
the future. I always say, like, unless you like really
actively like hurt someone or did something and if.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
You like to read something crazy, yeah, of course, I just.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
I mean in terms of like why did I shouldn't
have done I shouldn't have done that.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
If it's like a little things, like you can't beat
yourself up about it. You just have to like move
forward and change it. And that's exactly like how I
I kind of fell on Next Gen. I was like,
you know, I just feel like this wasn't the best
demonstration of myself and like it's okay, and everything is
a learning like everything's a learning lesson. But obviously they

(30:17):
know my mom and she is so amazing, but she
is known for her funny her funny moments where she
messes up words and doesn't say things correctly, and then
also just like her fiery temporary moments that are iconic,
and they kind of I feel like on Next Gen

(30:39):
and maybe listen, maybe I didn't give my I didn't
give enough of myself to Next Gen Season one and
that could possibly be it. Maybe I didn't show them
enough of myself for them to really, you know, demonstrate
everything that I'm doing in my life. But they only
really showed the moments where I was like annoyed by
something or you know, fiery or this or that. And yes,

(31:03):
they showed moments where I was a very very good friend.
But then, for example, I did a huge Vince Camudo
campaign and they literally showed five seconds of it. Wow,
like you blinked your eye and the scene was over,
and I was like, that was so screwed up. Well,
that was a huge campaign. Why wouldn't you have shown
more of that? Yeah, And so there was little things

(31:24):
that I just didn't love from the first season. I'm like,
next season, I'm giving you'll take my left arm. I
will show you guys, everything and more. And that's really
how you have to be with reality TV, because they
are going to capture everything that you give them. So
I have to be all in.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Not that different from when you're filming a TV show
and you get to do four takes and then you
have no say whatsoever over what they use they get.
They you get, as you know, as many chances they're
going to give you. Sometimes you get one chance, sometimes
you get a million, but then it's up to them.

(32:06):
Then it's like your performance is so much in the edit,
which is so real. For reality TV too, I think
it is that you can't the end of the day.
It's like, yeah, that is its own art form. It's
putting together exactly something else, and sometimes it can be
really good. Sometimes it can be really better.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
And just how you're saying it, like, yes, you guys
have a script, but it's the way you perform your
script each time that's different. And even for reality TV,
it's like, yes, we are not we don't have a
script and we're just talking how we would talk. But
whatever you said it, you said whatever you said, And Okay,

(32:44):
maybe they're only going to use the first and five
seconds of it in the edit and not the rest
of the sentence that makes you look a little better exactly,
but you still said it. So that's like there, I've
just learned so much this year and realized so much
this year from so many different people, even today talking
to you when you're saying about the Nepple baby stuff

(33:04):
and how it's actually a blessing and that you would
be inspired to follow in your family's footsteps, Like I
love that because I never really thought about that until
today when you just said it. And like, even just
talking to so many people this past year, it's like,
no matter what you said, what you said, or you know,
you performed the way that you performed, you can't regret it.
You just have to learn from it and move on.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
But also it's just like it's so funny too, because
hearing you talk about the way you think about yourself
from the first season of Next Gen, Like I don't
see that at all, and all the negative things that
you're saying that aren't, you know, so negative. But the
thing I can tell that you're not the happiest with
Like I didn't see any of that, and it's so
we are so everybody tells me that, but it's true,

(33:49):
like really, you actually liked me on Next Gen. And
but that's part of the whole thing too, is that
you have to, like when you're watching yourself back on things,
you have to remind yourself, okay that these things that
I obsess over about myself no one else is paying
attention to, Like no one in the world actually cares

(34:10):
as much about how we would come off on screen
as we do, and we're watching because we see every
last detail, and in reality, that's not how most people
perceive anything. So that's it's so funny hearing you talk
about that because I relate to that so much too.
But I'm always and then my friends say, what are
you talking about? Like what are you saying? And hearing

(34:32):
you talk about I'm like, as a total, like non
biased viewer, like I'm only meeting you now, Like I
I thought you came off so lovely and fun and
funny and like cool. Really, yes, that's you made my day.
You made my day. I talked honestly, on set of
The Comeback. We were everyone's big Brava fans on that set,

(34:54):
and we would talk about you guys in hair and
makeup trailer every morning. Ukay, yes, oh my god, all
the girls have you seen jan Have you seen next John?
I was like, no, I haven't yet, and they're like,
you got it, Just binge next time. And I binged
in one weekend, like at the beginning of the shoot,
and then we talk about you guys. We talked about
all of it. We were all a lot of Bravo
talk happening on set of the comebacks a lot of it.

(35:16):
I love this and like more than you didn't even think,
literally more than you think.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
What was your first role or your first big role
that you ever did.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
I would say my first big role was Delaia was
the play this summer that was you mean like professionally, yes, yeah,
that was that changed my entire life. I got to
I graduated May twenty twenty four from Juilliard, and then
in the year after that, I sort of was working
here and there. Like I said, in the fall of

(35:57):
twenty twenty four, I did it, and just like that
was really exciting because that was my first like real
job and then my first real acting job. And then
I was doing a lot of readings of new plays
and stuff, which is really fun and really great because
then you get to like shine in that and then
someone sees you and wants you to then do a
reading of their new play, and it's just a sort
of this like easy. Yeah, it's not easy, but it's

(36:19):
a sort of lower stakes cycle of work. But that
always just sort of begets more work, which is always
a great thing. But you start to get a little
bit tired of like not getting to really do the
play you're like, Okay, we're standing at music stans reading
and I want to do it so bad, so fun though,
But then I was working at a boutique and I

(36:41):
was like, this is not I was like, none of
this is happening as fast as I was thinking it
was going too and post grad and whatever. I did
a little movie or an amazing movie in the spring,
which was great. I had to go to North Carolina
for ten days to shoot that. It's the movie Driver's
Edit premiere at TIFF and hopefully people will get to

(37:05):
see that soon. But then I want to come see
you if you ever do another, like yeah, and then
I and then May of twenty twenty five. It all,
It all happened in one week. I got the audition
for Delaia, got the script, read it real Housewives references.
I was like, started carrying my crystals around. We ever reconized,
like this is this is going to happen. I spent

(37:27):
I only had like two days to prepare for the audition,
but I spent every second working on it. Did the
audition on Zoom, had a call back on Zoom two
days later, got the call that night, started rehearsals a
week later, and it was like literally a year out
from graduation, and I was like, this is actually exactly
what I have always wanted my whole life is just

(37:47):
to do like a cool play off Broadway, like New
York Theater. It's like all I've ever ever wanted to do,
and to do this little play where there were only
three of us and it's really edgy and weird and
dark but hilarious and gritty, and it was the total
total dream and like role of a lifetime, Like I've

(38:08):
never played a role like that where I had to
do so many crazy things and be so insane but
also charming and funny and then also like you know,
stab people.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
But like a year postscribe to do something you've always
dreamed about, Like that's incredible.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
It just kind of felt like, Okay, everything's working out
the way it's meant to and and I wouldn't And
you know, there are things you auditioned for that you
really think you're gonna get or that you really feel
attached to, and there were a lot of things sort
of leading up to that play that I was like
really really upset that I didn't get. And I usually

(38:46):
try to not feel too attached to things I auditioned
for because it's so it's usually so like when you
say for something, you're probably not going to get it.
It's just the truth. But there were a few plays
I was really upset that I didn't get. But it
all then felt so right when I got this play,
because it was just like, this is the role for
me to like start my career with, and I'm so

(39:08):
grateful that I did. And then right off of that
I got I literally on closing night of that play,
I got the call that I got the job for
the Comeback, and that then was the next biggest thing
I've ever done. I've never done a shot something where
I was on set the very first day to the

(39:28):
very last day of the whole shoot, Like I have
never done that, you know, the thing where it's like
this it becomes your family. You're just on the lot
every single day and you're with them all the time. Yeah,
and it was amazing. But so I'm literally now just
coming off of that. I just got back from LA
a week ago, and it's crazy because since Delaria started

(39:49):
in May, it's just been it's been this like NonStop
thing of like I was in rehearsals, I did the
play I got the call about the next job, I
went and did the next job. Now I'm here, I
have no idea what's next? You don't I was gonna.
I mean, I know that like the comeback is hopefully
coming out in the spring and whatever, and like that's
so exciting, and there's things that are like hopefully obviously happens, yes,

(40:13):
which things will probably roll in and I have no idea.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
That's what's fun about it. It's like every time you
have something that's so exciting and so rewarding, good things
always come from.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
That, Yes, especially if it's something that you feel is
right for you and that you connect to, because like
then it's it's gonna like it's gonna manifest or bring
in more of like the same vibe that you're putting it. Like,
you know, I never want to be doing things that
I'm like I feel like I'm forcing myself into because
then that's not the right kind of work. And then

(40:45):
I don't know, it's like I think that when things
fall into place the way they're meant to, that it's
all gonna hopefully, you know. No, I'm going a little
crazy already being like, yeah, don't I don't have an
acting toop right now, I don't I don't know what's
next hopefully hopefully on, but you will.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Oh gosh, you you got to get Also, what I
learned like just going and being go, go go, give
you give yourself this time to reset and really rest
and just like give your body like that reset that
it needs because that's also like so.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Important it is it is I agree with that.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Did your parents give you any advice as you were
entering this exciting chapter of your life that stuff?

Speaker 2 (41:30):
Yeah, I mean, my family's very close, so we're just
always sort of everyone's always very aware of what everyone's
you know, doing, and we all talk. We just talk
about everything. So the advice is not like any you

(41:51):
know gem quote you know here and there. It's more
just like the support and just the time, the emotional
like understanding that my family has and like, yeah, I
mean I think all everything I've been saying about things,
just like trusting that things are gonna work out in
the way they're supposed to do, and that it's when
when the job, when you don't get that job, the

(42:13):
right one is coming next. Like that's a really big
thing that my my mom has definitely like it believes
in that a lot and has instill that in me.
And I don't know. I think just like throughout the years,
my family they come to every show I do everything,
Like they came to the play like ten times this summer,

(42:33):
Like it's it's never like so much like wow, that
advice will stick with me forever and more more just
like yeah, they get it and know, you know, in
any scenario, they've been through it all and know how
to be there, whether that's like I'm gonna let I'll
deal with this on her own, or whether it's like like, yeah,

(42:56):
it's really hard, even if it's just the talks about
like yeah, it's really hard when it doesn't work out
sometimes and it's like it's hard not to be bitter
sometimes and it's hard not to like and you know
they have they've been My parents have been doing this
for so long that they have like so many experiences
with rejection and all of that, and they're really amazing
at like helping me navigate that too. I think just

(43:17):
like as I say, like emotionally, they're.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
Just having their support.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Yeah, I know, I.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
Totally get it. I have to ask you, yeah, because
I loved this show so much, but obviously in your
play Dealaia, you shared the stage Conrad, and honestly, I
didn't even know Conrad's real name until I read.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
The rundown today, which is Chris Chris Bryney.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
But did you watch the Summer? I turned pretty I didn't.
You didn't, I didn't.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
I had watched the first season when it came out
years ago, like so fun but I hadn't watched the
second season, and then the third season was coming out
as we were doing the play. That's so funny. You
were so busy, so busy, and also like I'm we're
spending every second of every seems he's the greatest, He's
the sweetest, he's like so was an amassing actor.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
You don't know if you were a team Conrad or
team Jerma.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Well I'm not, but obviously I'm biased because you're good Chris. Yeah,
I got it. No, he's he's the best. And I
think he's a really brilliant comedic actor, which you know,
I don't know this on my return pretty so well,
but like you know, he's he plays like the broody
one on that and in our play he got to

(44:33):
be really goofy and silly, and I had a lot
of fun in this scene that we had together where
he just got to be this like kind of stupid boy,
and I think we both had a lot of fun
with that and had a hard time sometimes not cracking
each other up. There were moments we'd have to like
look away, deep breath, get back. There were moments I

(44:53):
had to like show show him like things on this
prop phone I had, and so every show I would
try to show him someth thing different on the phone
that was just like funny and just try to make
him laugh because you know, you're doing the same thing
over and over and over again, so you got to
keep it fresh. But he was really great at that,
and we had so much fun, like all three of us.
And then it was me and him and then Kiara Aurelia,

(45:15):
who's she was in Cruel Summer. She's an amazing, amazing actor,
and so we were the original three and then she
left to go do a play on Broadway, and then
Tessa Albertson came in and joined us, and she was
like amazing. It was just the dream like we I
had the greatest.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Amazing all around ever. It really when you know you
also probably just learned all like you like feed off
of each other, off of each other so much.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Yeah. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
What's something about your childhood that would surprise people today?

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Mmmm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
I don't know, Like, you know, people thought I had butlers, Like.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Yeah, a butler either. I think there's like that's always
kind of going to be like, well, the butler's now yeah,
the lobster.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
No.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
I mean, I think just honestly, like I was just
a really like I just I've struggled with like anxiety
and depression my whole life, and like I'm in an
amazing place now and over the last like five years,
I like I got meds and whatever and it's just

(46:34):
changed my entire life. But like growing up, like I
there was a lot of like sadness and loneliness and
stuff and not in like an oh poor me way.
It's just like, yeah, you know people have.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
It's kind of even sometimes you're going through it and
you're like, I don't even know why I'm.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Feeling exactly exactly, And yeah, I think it's just like
I had. That's when I think about my childhood, Like
I think a lot about like how anxious I was
all the time. And I'm sure that like the way
I grew up also, and like what my family's life
was probably like fed into that and mesories, not on purpose,

(47:14):
but just yeah, I think there's just like a lot
of a lot of moving parts and.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
Yeah, and I mean I totally get it. I you know,
I had anxiety before going on Special Forces, and then
I thought it went away after doing it because I
was like, this was such a crazy intense thing. But
you know, anxiety is so weird. You can't control it.
It randomly flares up on you and it's like this
horrible feeling that you like feel like your heart and

(47:47):
like you're you're gonna die. It's just like a horrible feeling. Yeah,
and I totally I totally get it. I recently just
had I had a panic attack at Bravo Con. Yeah,
it was just like in the randomest times and you
don't know why and they just come out of nowhere
and it's it's horrible. But I mean, I definitely, I
definitely see where you're coming from. Sometimes you just get

(48:07):
into these ruts and you're like I don't even know
why I'm why I'm in it right now.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
And for a lot of like a lot of my
childhood there was just like an overarching like fear of
like the future and of what's gonna happen at any
given moment, and like like you're saying, like am I
gonna die like any any time? Like that's like a horrible,
horrible way to live. But that was like a lot
of what I what I that would then. And you know,

(48:33):
I think my family, like we've been through many stages
of like what are our home life has been, and
that's also been kind of like public stuff, like you
were saying, like a lot of personal things being public
is like really hard, and even when I was a
teenager and stuff, and I think that had a big effect.

(48:55):
I mean, looking at back now, I think I didn't
give as much credit to like how much that being
like a public thing like my parents' relationship and stuff
affected me. And but I just feel really like grateful
to be able to talk about it now because we're

(49:15):
I just feel like everyone, my family and myself are
all just in this like better place right now, and
everyone is just like everyone individually is so happy right
now and doing what we're all meant to do. And
I'm just feel very grateful to be able to look
back on times that were harder and and feel like

(49:36):
to feel excited about tomorrow going upstate to like be
with my my family for Thanksgiving is like in high school,
I probably would not have felt excited to spend five
days just the four of us like in a house.
As much as I've we've always been so close and
I love them. But I have a little brother. Oh yes,
you said, he's in college. So now it's just like

(49:59):
I I I don't take I think because of like
the weird times my family has been through. Just to
be totally honest, like I don't take anything for granted
of like the time we get to spend together now
and the positive place that we're we're all in right now.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
I love that for you and for you. What is
your brother? Like is he in the act?

Speaker 2 (50:19):
Do you want to guess what he's studying in school?
He's in acting school. It's ridiculous, Like it's so embarrassing
for all of us, Like he's not embarrassing, it's not,
it's not embarrassing, but it is in your blood. Hell,
you know, because at the end of the day, at
the end of the day, it was never gonna not
you know, he's I would see him. He's good.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
You guys have to work for that. It's not like, yes,
it's in your blood, Okay, it's instilled in you guys.
You guys saw growing as you guys saw in your
childhood growing up. Of course it's going to be inspiring
to want to do it, but you still have to
work for it. Yes, you still have to go to
acting classes, train for it, know how to play the roles.
Like it's not easy, yeah, and especially when you want

(51:05):
it's not.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
No, it's not easy at all. And it's especially when
you want to to like you were saying like early on,
like when you want to carve your own path and like,
and I really want that, and I really want to
be doing the things that are right for me and
what I've always wanted to do. And I know my
brother does too, and he's trying to figure that out now.

(51:27):
And but he's always been an incredible actor too. But
it's like when you like, you know, there is sure,
there is like an easy way to go, but like
is that I don't know, that's not really the good.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
I don't know, Like I feel like it's not as
it's not as.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Rewarded, it's not as rewarding. It's not like I don't know,
It's just I can't. It's also never was really like
a thing in my family of it was just always like, yeah,
of course you're going to go to school and do
the thing and work and yeah, yeah, I don't know.
It's just was never like and.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
You guys all are like, you're doing this on your own,
like thank you know, And it's like the same thing
with anything. It's not like my mom called Bravo construct
a show so much.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Exactly. And by the way, how many people probably think
that I just can't even go there next.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
Year they asked me fell into my left just like
all of these roles, yeah, well deserved, and you did
so amazing in all of them, I'm sure, and thank you.
You know. I would love to see you do a
play one day.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
I mean serious, I hope that my next thing is.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
A play in the In the show, just like that,
stepping onto such an iconic set like that, you were
around so many people, but for people don't who don't
know what was your role?

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Okay? So I played uh Brady, who's Miranda's son's baby mama.
So I was like about to pop fake pregnant. I
had this giant, heavy baby belly and like people like
to the point where like on set walking around like people,
I don't know what it's made of. It's just heavy

(53:08):
and it kind of feels like skin. But it was
like this like harness like thing, and so it looked
so realistic that people on set were like getting off there,
They're like, oh it sit, here's it. It's it like,
and I'd be like, oh, thank you. I'm like I
should wear this on the train. Just let people give
me their seats and help me with my bags and whatever.

(53:29):
It looks so real. Yeah, exactly so. But it was
crazy like I got to I got to work with
I got to work with all three of the ladies,
which is like the coolest things like in the city. Yeah,
it's like, that's the coolest thing ever. I was so
so excited and I still feel so excited that I

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that I got to know.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
It's insane when you think about the kind of work
that you want to pursue. Is it comedy, theater, or
something totally different.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
I want to do everything, always say, but theater will
always be my number one love and priority. Comedy will
also always be like my number one love and priority,
whether it's in theater, on film or TV. I'm also
a writer and I've been writing for the past few
years and i have a few projects that I'm starting

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to circulate and I'm really excited about that. So but
I always say that, like I want so eventually, I
want to be writing the things i'm in, directing the
things i'm in, producing the things i'm in, and like
I'm in Aries, i want to be in charge like
my boyfriend's in arias I'm a Capricorn.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
Oh my god, it's like Capricorn, you're working determined, but
Aries too. You guys got that fire.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
It's a good pairing. It's a good yeah. But I'm
April ninth, April, Okay, nice on April Aries. It's great.
But yeah, so I want to I want to do
all of it. I also am really.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
Into sixteen, so it's a little later.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
Yeah. Yeah, he's a little more cuspy, but it's okay, Yeah,
it's okay. Yeah, I want to do I want to
do everything, and I want to I want to also,
like my main focus always is, like especially right now
at this time in my life, is like centering young
women's stories and like being like a real person because

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I think a lot of actors. I think we're in
a time right now where a lot of actors are
like not looking real anymore, like as human beings. Like
you think that you watch a lot of actors now
and you're like, I can't relate to that person because
that's not a realistic body or face or whatever or

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like I don't know, and I just am I'm really
missing right now, like that thing of like that art
and and stories are supposed to be, like you're supposed
to see yourself into people. Yeah, exactly, So I really
like that's a big thing for me, is that I
just always want to like be the voice of like

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some some young woman who hopefully is like I like,
feel seen in some way. Like that's because that's what
I look for when I watch things.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
You know you will you're gonna achieve that when you're
not acting. What do you love to do to reset? Mmmm?

Speaker 2 (56:26):
Yoga?

Speaker 1 (56:28):
Yogi?

Speaker 2 (56:29):
I am especially over the last year and last year
and a half, I've gotten really into yoga. I love it.
It's so I think that all yeah, as much as
it's like what I do when I'm not acting, But
I do think that all actors should do yoga. I
think especially theater actors. I think it's the most amazing
way to get you know, it's all about like mind
body connection. I think that's what acting is all about too.

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It's like being in touch with every single like cell
in your body and your brain and heart and like
just being an open like vessel feeling things and listening
and responding. And I think that's what yoga is all about.
I also love hanging out with my cat what your

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Guts Name? His name is Riley Love, and I love.
I just love walking in Central Park too. Like that's
a big reset for me always. It's like if I
am so inspiring to just its like so inspiring and.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
You could just probably write and think of nothing and
look in the sky.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
That's like a it's very very very healing for me
to go for a walk in New York in the
park and just like have a day to myself and.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Just like the things that you see, you're like, Okay, relatable.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
I exactly exactly, I know exactly. And then you're like,
oh okay, but now I'm inspired for my next Especially,
I'm like I get to just be and I'm just
a person. It's like, unfortunately it's always going to be
an artist.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
Because you also love your like bra Bo references, and
that is my way. That's my ultimate escapism, by the way,
because I got into Bravo and reality TV, but by
the way, only really Bravo. Like I got into Bravo
while I was at Juilliard because I couldn't stand to
watch something that was something that wasn't reality TV because
I was like, I'm learning how to act every day,

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like I'm getting yelled at for doing this, this, this
and this.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
I'm being told that everything I'm doing is wrong. I
don't want to watch TV and then like be thinking
that about the actor acting. I don't want to watch
people wan I just look natural And it's the greatest Honestly,
maybe Bravo coming into my life via the Juilliard need
for escapism, maybe that's the biggest, the biggest gift I got.
No I'm kidding, but I I it's that is my

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huge like escapism when you when you have like when
you're writing, Yeah, if there's ever like a reference, like
a me reference, and then we could like like I
could be your reality TV star like in your film,
I think I will absolutely take you up on that.
I think that my.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
Mom Danielle and like Jacqueline Marita, I think did it
for something so long ago, back in the day, and
like I mean, Kim Kardashian is doing it now. Like
but you know, just like something funny, I could like
pop into your.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
Film and give you a cameo. I would love that.
Maybe in everything, I don't know, I would love that.
Maybe maybe my my goal will to be like to
have one at least one Bravo star have a cameo
on every single thing I make when I'm in charge. Ok,
that's maybe that'll be my like deal breaker, Ella, and you'll.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
Be excited, guys, be an actress.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
You've heard it here, heard it here.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Well, where can everyone find you? Ella?

Speaker 2 (59:51):
Like on Instagram? Like on Instagram, I'm Ella dot Stiller
and yeah, you can follow me and I'm the new
season of The Comeback will be coming out in the
spring and I'm really really excited about that and.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Yeah, I'm so happy. Well, thank you so much for
coming on to thank you so much for this is
such a fun episode. You're amazing, and like I just
I love connecting with people when I'm doing this because
you just gave me so much insight on so many
things and right you just like get open to like
new perspectives and new way and new ways of thinking.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
It's so funny, like we have a lot in common.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
We do, And I love that you're in New York.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
Yes, like forever by the way.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
I agree. Yeah, so we'll get together and the best
of luck with everything and your next play. Keep me
in mind, so.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Your next script.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
But that is all for today. I love you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
Bye.