MS Cops Shoot Man While Handcuffed,Bodycam of Alonzo Bagley Arrest Released, Black Ranchers Harassed

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Mmmm, Hey, fam, Today's Thursday. We were sixteen two thy

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twenty three coming up a Roland Martin until streaming live
on the Black Start network. The cop you got and
killed the black man in street pull of Louisiana arrested
today on homicide charges. You will explain. We had the
family attorney on the other day. We'll tell you about
that story. Also, the Department of Justice, they have launched
investigation into the beating of a black man in Missus Tippy.

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We're talking about that eighth yesterday. His attorney, Malite he
Wishavaz is gonna be on the show giving us a
better installation with a E O J. Also for Colorado
ranchers we've been harassed by white folk. They're gonna be
joining us on the show. As well as content Saint
Highest Court pre important cook flip there uh and you

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could get the first black state the printing Court Justice.
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of his pain. Also, I talked to me not com
bassionist then the time of Brink, I would talking about
the anniversary of U Rank before put the United States
is doing when it comes to hey as well as

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public if ee ouse boks. Get the time for us
to bring the farm. I all the barking on children,
Cary become a box on networkment go. He's whatever the mess,
He's on it, whatever it is. He's got the school,
the fine and when he's right on time and it's rolling.

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Best believe he's going down Sloston news to politics would
entertain the just for he sold it. He's spooky especial,

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she's real the fession though he's rolling. Martel. Days ago,
we told you about a black man shot and killed

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in Streeport, Louisiana. Buy a cop responding to a domestic
disturbance called yesterday. The family finally saw the body cam footage.
Today that cop turned himself. He charged with negligent aside
Officer Alexander Tyler turned himself into the Cato Parish Correctional Center.

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He was taking custody by the week because they troopers.
After the detectives an investigation bureau reviewed the evidence in
the body camera footage or what's the place? Every third
in the depth of Alonso back Kyle was granted or folks,
uh here the bid from footage? Uh that uh led?

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I remember family? We had him all the other day
and the factor was saying, released the camera footage. Well
the day it was the footage trinker on the bike
footage that his white cop be shared with homeside. So

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it's hey, hey, do how you doing? What's your name? Hello? Hey?

(04:25):
Can't step out for me? Hello, I come ahead, sir.
He the piece people name my dog? Sit down, my
dog down. Let let her hey come here, dog, come here,
put my dog. She can put the dog up. Everybody.
He was starting the pieces that we back in the
clouded woman. Do him go read, I'm about to get

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you with the dog. He lock, there you go, it went,

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it went that way time. Oh god ea no, despite
sending umss right now, so I tart fire no no, sorry, sorry,

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hey no, no, I tell you hey, Hey, come on,
come on, come on, come on hold some what No? No,
go ahead, no, man, you're good, you're right. Come on, dude,

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this whole man sending your mess right out town eighteen
Hunting ten eighteen. Come on, come on, dude, stay with me,
stay rushing, pressure, stay with me. Go on, you're good,
you're good bye, stay away. Hey, you're good. Hey, keep reading,

(06:33):
keep breathing, keep reading, keep breathing. Word me man, still
bathing me breathing. You're good bye. Keep breathing. Keep breathing, dude,
Keep breathing, keep breathing, keep breathing. Dude. Hey, go to
go to the front of build and go to the
front of building, wave them down and wave them down

(06:53):
with their flash like come on, run run round run run. Hey.
Hey dude, Hey, you're gonna be all right. You're gonna
be all right. Look at me, Hey, look at me,
Look at me, Look at me, Look at me, look
at me. Hey, wake up, wake up, look at me,
look at me. Hey respond, Come on, come on, come on,

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wake up, respond, come on, come on, o body can't
put it on, come on out. She can put the

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dog up. Yeah, but he's starting the pieces of that
weed back in. He clowning. The woman is doing him.
She's not ready. I'm about he He's gonna go to
the dog and can going. He's like the doing ain't gonna,
ain't gonna back. We got one run in dispatch. Black

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black man, blue shirt, front door top dor fork He fault.
Where's it? Where's where do you go? Oh god? Oh no,

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just like she fi no no, no, no, no, dude,
no no, no, come on, no no no, no man

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no no, no, no, man, no no, no. Man. Come on, dude,
come on man, see him try out that. Man, I
can come on, dude, come on, dude, stay with me,
Stay with me. I stay, stay with me. Man, stay

(09:44):
with me. Go on, You're good, You're good bye. Stay
You gotta keep reading, stay reading, get reading, Stay with me, man,
stay with me reading. Are you gonna back keep breathing,
Keep breathing, dude, keeping keep breathing, keep breathing. Hey, go

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to go to the front of building. Go to the
front of building, and weave them down, leading down all
here the bash folks again. Shocking, shocking video to watch

(10:38):
again Alonzo Baggley simply running away. Question is why is
the cop shooting? That's the question. Why is the cop shooting?
Why is the cop firing his gun? That makes no
sense whatsoever. We have seen these stories over and over
and over again. Uh, and it continued to happen. We're

(11:01):
gonna do this here. We're gonna go to a break uh,
and then we're gonna talk about this story. But also
we're gonna talk about the story of this young brother
out of Mississippi. Again. Similar story, same thing. Officers come
to the scene again. They shoot Michael Corey Jenkins is
fighting for his life now, unable to talk, folks. This

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is just what happens police and black men in this country. Folks.
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All right, folks, that were just telling you their of
course about the story out of Louisiana, and let's go
to Mississippi with the Department of Justice. They're investigating possible
civil rights violations by Mississippi s Sheriff's Department after white
sheriffs deputies allegedly shot a black man in the mouth
while handcuff during a suspected drug raid last month. We
told you about Michael Corey Jenkins, of course that story.

(14:20):
Last night, he was at a friend's house when six
white rankin County sheriffs deputies burst through the front door. Folks,
there are huge discrepancies between what the cops are saying
and what the Jenkins family says took place on January
twenty fourth. Joining us now is the attorney for the family,
Malik Shabaz. So, Malik, you were at the Department Justice

(14:43):
today and one of the same thing about I was
dealing with the Emmett Till got an attorney for the
Emettill family against the case against Carol and Bryant. Right,
But the Department of Justice has opened up a formal
investigation into the criminal actions of the six white ranking

(15:03):
County sheriff deputies that on January twenty fifth, illegally raided
broke in to the residents where Michael Jenkins and Eddie
Terrell Parker, two men who I represent, broke into this
residence and began a ninety minute torture session. This was
no this was no rash action, no running, no resisting.

(15:26):
Michael is not a felon. He wasn't resistant. But over
the course of this ninety minute stay, they handcuffed me
and immediately had bound them, and for ninety minutes they
beat them, tasered them, repeatedly, kicked them, punched them, and
even waterboarded them. You heard about that from a board.

(15:47):
You just pouring liquids on the people to get them
to confess. I mean, I mean really dogging and humiliating
and abusing these men until after pointing the guns at
them repeatedly. We've done a thorough investigation on all of this.
After pointing the guns and threatening to kill them in
this ninety minute torture melee, one of the deputies put

(16:10):
the gun in Michael's mouth and fired, okay, and the
bullet came out of Michael's neck, almost killed him. Luckily,
he'd be like Tyree Nichols, but he's he's not, and
so therefore but his tongue was hurtinally removed, his tongue
was Yeah, he barely had his tongue and he had
to do all kind of operations. He eats now through

(16:31):
a feeding tube. He cannot eat eats, he eats through
liquid through a feeding tube. He has permanent cognitive damage,
permanent damage to his eyesight, and other serious injuries as
a result of being shot. So the news is it's
not just civil rights violations, is that criminal charges are

(16:52):
should be imminent, and I think that they are imminent
based on Michael's interview that I witnessed with the Mississippi
be Bureau of Investigation and they're they're leading the investigation,
not the count No, the Department of Justice has now
got involved. Well, that that's Federals rights violations. But in
terms of the criminal side, and the Mississippi Boal Investigation

(17:13):
is leading it, but not the Sheriff's department. No, not, No,
it's Mississippi policy that nb that the Mississippi Bill of
Investigation investigates or anybody camera footage for these sheriff's officers.
There should be. There should be, but I can't confirm
it right now. Mississippi is notorious for concealing and denying

(17:33):
victims the chance to look at the body cam footage.
That's going to change. If this was a drug raid
and they were there ninety minutes, why not handcuff them,
to take them down to the sheriff's department and do
the investigation there ninety minutes at the house. That's what
you're that's what you're supposed to do. You're supposed to
if you're have an arrestable offense, or you have probable

(17:54):
calls rolland you arrest the person, you take them into custody.
You know most of these innswers. Then we see there
are rapidly evolving circumstances. They're running, there's resisting, or there's
some kind of interaction. This is ninety minutes of intent
of intentionally planned out conduct. I mean, some of it
is is horrific than the other parts of it are

(18:15):
absolutely juvenile. I went to the house. I'll give you
the pictures. At some point they threw eggs at these
men for ninety minutes. There's eggs all on the wall
in eggs, eggs literally on the wall. Um. They use
racial slurs in the course of this. So the Justice
Department should be seeking hate crime charges. But and uh,

(18:36):
and there's even some some sexual deviancy in this. In
this thing, I mean, I'm talking about attempted side of me.
So they were they were they were accusing them of
dating white women. Well, this is this is a rural
area in Ranking County. Now Ranking County deputies are notorious
for their abuse and murder. So I do want to
say that that Black Lawyers for Justice is opening up

(18:58):
an entire investigation until they department all of their murders.
But in this specific case, they came in without a warrant.
These are the only black men in a two mile
and a basically a two mile radius. So the white officers.
White officers come in saying, you know, basically, this is
our area and y'all are not going to be dealing

(19:21):
with our women and and so forth. So they came
in basically saying that y'all are not warning here, and
we run this area. It's very rural, and they're used
to getting away with this because most brothers in Mississippi
say that once they charge you with something, you better
plead guilty or otherwise you're going to jail for a
long time. The problem here, brother Roland, is that he

(19:45):
was shot at the end of this melee. Either I
believe it was intentional that he was shot, and then
that's when the cat was out the bag. Shot and survived,
shot and survived. He was shot in the mouth, and
he was in the ICU for a couple of weeks
and he survived. But it was one of the most

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This is one of the most outrageous acts of police
brutality that I've seen, because I've never seen an organized
torture session of this length that mister Jenkins and mister
Terrell Parker faced. Now have they filed any charges against
Jenkins interrel They have, they have, But these charges are manufactured,

(20:25):
and these chargers are going to I expect all charges
to be dropped. Expect all charges to be dropped. They're
absolutely manufactured. Originally, the NBI and the police put out
a statement that Michael had a gun. Look at what
they're saying now, they're not saying anything. They're They're not
saying he had a gun. They're saying they're going to

(20:46):
investigate and if anything's wrong, they're going to take action.
The officers are covering up. We have them on the
defensive in this hour, as as attorneys myself, attorney Trent
Walker from Mississippi, and and my part in the original
green out of Atlanta. We have them on the defensive
absolutely right now we're pressing the case. We want these

(21:07):
officers jailed. They must be charged not with just negligent homicide,
they must be charged with attempted murder, all of them.
Because nobody intervened. Like in the Nichols case, no one
intervened to stop them. Not one officer says this is
ridiculous or this is outrageous. No one intervened. Now we've

(21:28):
done a very thorough investigation. Warrant, no warrant, No warrant
has this, no warrant presented, no evidence of a warrant.
So supposed a drug raid, but you have no warrant.
That's what they do in Rankin County, Mississippi. They do
what they want. Despite the overwhelming tide against police brutality,
you would think, well, they would want to be conscious

(21:50):
of this. Now it's a permanent arrogant mentality that cannot
even be rooted out when they see other officers go
to jail. This has to be rooted out by these
six white deputies going to jail. I mean I want
to see them charged and headed to prison the way

(22:11):
those black officers. They should be as hard on these
white six deputies as they are on the six black
officers that were responsible for Nichol's death in Memphis. These
officers still on the streets. All they put on administrative leave.
We don't know their status right now. So the ship

(22:31):
with the shot, they're not in jail. The sheriff has
a communicated, the sheriff is now investigating. The sheriff is investigating.
The reports are that the deputies are lawyering up. And
I can say that the NBI. Many people have issues
with the Mississippi Bureau of Investigation, but from what I
saw in the interview with Michael and mister Terrell, I

(22:54):
think that they're doing an honest investigation. And the NBI
promised me yesterday that that if this is as he
says it is, Jenkins and Parker, that if it is
as he says it is, and then they're going to
give them up because they're saying that they make all
cops look bad, and I know that they do. The

(23:15):
family has started to go fund me because obviously they
have legal fees, they have medical expenses as well. Correct
go fund me. Yes, go fund me as Michael Corey
Jenkins on go fund me. Michael, do y'all have it there,
go ahead and pull it up on go fund me.
Michael Corey Jenkins on go fund me. Um. This, I

(23:35):
mean the thing here with these stories and we've been
um talking about this case after case of the case. Um,
this is why you have to have an extensive George
Floyd just a act, but you also have got to
have states, counties, and cities moving aggressively because at the
end of the day, uh, these things have not subsided.

(23:58):
They continue, okay, and that's where that's where attorneys come in.
That's where community activism and community organizers come in. In
the state of Mississippi. I do want to give credit
for the great organizing efforts that the community has done
to help on the local level. So therefore I have
to thank the New Black Path Party. I have to

(24:19):
think that elmer Geronimo PRAC Gun Club. I have to
thank all the Mississippi activists from um on Jaheem McMillan's case.
Bless them U down there in Brookhaven, Mississippi. D Montario
Gibson and his mama, they got those officers charged on
murder charges. This comes from from from the efforts of

(24:41):
the grassroots movements that you know that I'm a part of.
So it takes a collective effort and hopefully things are changing.
But I can promise you that Mississippi is the top
battleground as we go into twenty twenty three when it
comes to police violence and racial violence, Mississippi is the
top battle ground, folks. Mary Jenkins is Michael Corey Jenkins mother.

(25:03):
So that that's that's the actual go fund mean, you
put Michael Corey Jenkins in look for Mary Jenkins Again,
they've already the goal was to raise about thirty thousand dollars.
They're at fifteen thousand, six hundred dollars because again, uh,
he is going to have extensive medical expenses. He's still
in the hospital. Have they given um he was out
the hospital. He appeared at the news conference yesterday, he appeared.

(25:26):
How he spent in the hospital. He was in the hospital.
That's almost three weeks. Three weeks. He had several surgeries
that were he almost lost his life several times. I
mean there's arteries, several surgeries to repair bleeding arteries. I mean,
he barely made it out of there. Otherwise Michael Jenkins
would be a poster right now, all right, Malik, he

(25:48):
was abreast of what happens next. Okay, m Colin Muhammad.
You said one time on your show that Colin Muhammad
that you had talked so strong. Yeah. My interview with
the Four Star Telegram, yea. And what we did was,
I'll tell exactly what happened. Uh. I was writing a
cover story, a story on him. He came to speak
to the Nation of Islam and Fort Worth and I

(26:10):
was he went to Weekly High School in Houston, Uh,
and then he wanted to be a preacher growing up.
And so we were doing the interview, and then of
course when the end we uh, he said, what's up
all these personal questions? And I was like, Kyle, let's
go off the record. And we went off the record,
and me and him, me and him, uh went at it,
and then he said, let's go back on the record.
And from that point to the day he died, he

(26:30):
told his folks whenever he calls put his phone call through.
Hashema Zieger, who was Steve Washington, knew about that phone
call as well. And from that point me and Colin
were fine. And then we can't believe. Now, I can
believe y'all had a private conversation. It was, and it was,
and I can believe that. I can believe that y'all
worked it out. And he said leave. Yeah, we had
no issues. But I do not believe you, my brother,

(26:52):
And now I can guarantee you I believe. But I'm
just telling you what he told me. Now. Then came
back and I was in Dallas. He told me he said,
he said that you were scared to death and that
that you were scared that that meeting. First of all,
it wasn't a meeting on the phone, so that's right there,
meeting the phone called. Okay, Well that's what he and

(27:15):
I get on the phone context. I guarantee you what wasn'
afraid of him? Wasn't afraid of Hrap Brown, wasn't afraid
of Obama. Well, I'm just I'm telling you what the
man said. So maybe he and I don't know what
meeting he talking about, but I can tell you. I
can tell you right now it's exactly what I said.
And when Skip Gates came to College station and did
the exact same thing. When I was in college, I

(27:36):
did the exact same thing to Skip Gates singing to
College Station Hilton, I ain't never been able to fraid
challenge anybody. And that's also why I'm just I'm just
telling you what he I'm just telling you what he
told me. He told me. It didn't go anything. I
can guarantee you, Uh, he knows that he knew exactly
what happened. But but blab bla, I was. I made
it perfectly. As you know, he's my man. Ain't no problem,

(27:59):
ain't no you know, he's my man. I got my mentor,
I got you, okay, and it and it's just like
again when when when you went at George Curry and
Houston about that piece of Farrakon and he told you
what Farrakon said, and you were like, what Farracon's right
there as well. It guess what me and George we
were have saying we went there. Look, I expect what

(28:22):
you're doing on this police stuff here I do, and
what you're covering. I honor you for honoring Michael Jenkins
and and his struggle. And also you're gonna talk about Bagley.
Got all that Bagley? Okay, somebody else coming on talking
about no no, come my pal let's come up next. Okay, yeah, Bagley,
that's a hell of a case. Yeah, we had returning
on two days ago. That's a hell of a case. Okay,
all right, he got it. Thank you. You know, you

(28:44):
know I'm always wayning now, well, you know, we had to.
We had to get it in on this. It's all good.
So it's all good. I gotta go to break. We'll
be back rolling back on the filter right here on
the Black Stunt that one. All right. We're all impacted

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All right, folks, let's talk with our panel right here
at Thursday pan alre you that way, there you go,
there you go, there you go that way? All right?
All right, lickton I keep track that we live TV. Uh.
We gonna have the rest of that conversation later. All right,
let's get with it. Erica Savage, the refrained brain, Reese
cover Black, the man views that the grid Car Department
of Afrian America said is Howard University. These two stories

(34:02):
right here, we covered so many of these, and what
what we're dealing with here as again in one case,
quick justice, if you will, in that that officer has
now turned himself in net gener homicide. We're still waiting
the Michael Corey Jenkins. And the thing here reesing is

(34:23):
for all of folks who keep saying, oh, you know,
I mean these are these are few bad apples. Yeah,
but folks still end up dead or with considerable medical challenges.
Like your prior guest was just talking about. It's just
the judge jury executioner escalation that just continues to be

(34:45):
completely unconscionable yet more and more common. Um with mister
Alonzo Bagley. Okay, so we started off of what I
mean to me, the black lady at the beginning of
the body cam was more disruptive than Bagley. But I mean,
I'm not saying shoot her, but I'm just saying, like,
what was really the problem? Like it was so called

(35:07):
domestic disturbance. But what's nuts with me? The baggle is
story Erica? Is that Why Okay, he takes off, he's
not brandishing a weapon. Why you shoot him? I mean
what she the woman said, he's been drinking, you know
where he lives. Why fire the weapon? And then you

(35:29):
hear the officer crying, Oh my god, keep breathing, keep breathing.
Oh now you have care. Oh god. We know what
this is. And you know, as many of these that
we continually see, it doesn't get any easier and it
does not raise to the level of these individuals, meaning

(35:53):
those who have chose law enforcement that's their field. It
does not align with humanity at all. Like and we
said this on this program, and I believe Greg has
talked about this extensively. It's hunting. They're hunting, and so
while people are being entertained with things that really don't
you know, factor into our own humanity and ensuring that

(36:16):
the rights that we have are content or that are
enshrined in the Constitution are protected. We're continuing to see this.
So it does say something about a lot about race.
It does say something about people who go into these
jobs and feel that they have license to shoot and
kill black children, black women, and black men and black seniors.

(36:37):
They don't give a fuck, and they're not being checked,
they're being protected. This whole kind of thought that well,
there's reforming, that there's some type of training that can
be taken. There's nothing to be reformed or to be
or to be trained. These are state sanctioned terrorists and
they will carry out an exact violence on anybody that

(37:02):
they damn well pleased, with little to no repercussions, only
in the event that those people that are committing those
offenses are black, and it raises to the level of
social media and there's a demand for justice. So, unless
we want to continue with this cycle, which I said
that we actually don't have the capacity to continue in

(37:22):
unless we want to get very serious about how our vote.
Though people may go rolling their eyes, shrugging their shoulders,
talking cash money shit until they want to be in
this very same spotlight or be in this family. We
have to engage it because it is one thing that
is keeping us alive, you know, Greg, when we talk

(37:44):
about these cases, and let me be real clear, I've
always said this body cameras are not the panacea. They
are not the be all to end all. But the
one thing they do give us, they give us why
when they have not been First of all, when they

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stay on and when they're not covered up, they give
us the audio and the video of what happened. And
what it does is it debunks the lies that we
often see in the police reports. That's right, Roland. It
all works together. Those killers in Memphis. Had it not
been for the stationary camera they weren't aware of, they'd

(38:27):
be having their lives. As you said, they turned their
cameras towards the ground. And and you know you frequently
cite doctor Kings whether we go from here chaos or community.
And as you well knowing to explain many times on
these airways, he's got a chapter in there about the
white liberals and whether you call them liberal or conservative,
where you call them open racists or soft white racists,

(38:48):
whether it be the racists there in Rankin County. And
by the way, y'all, you ain't never gonna see anybody
talk about Colin Muhammad. My friend and brother ansisted, now
Colin Muhammad with one of his deputies, my friend brother
Malik Zulu Shabas and confronted the way Roland did. You're
never going to see that anywhere else in media. So
y'all just be very clear about what this space is about.
But whether it be those racists out there in Rankin

(39:10):
County east of Jackson, where they basically are just running
rough shot without the cameras, or at least we don't
know yet where they have them, or over here in
Louisiana with Alonzo Bagley, you see those white boys there
in Louisiana, as Erica said, they're hunting their killers, and
we heard the script of what happens. They shot because
that is what they think of us black boys, girls,

(39:33):
women and men. Prince had a song nineteen what was
it called Radical Man twenty forty nine. He said, school
in the Art of Digital games. When the war broke out,
they called your name just a twentie year old white
boy in terms of Alexander Town who grew up probably
playing video games. You've been shooting the black people since
he could hold a controller. So anyway, the first thing
you do is shoot somebody. And then you heard the

(39:54):
defense that doctor King was talking about. And where we
go from here a chaosa community. I'm not a racist.
As the man is laying there dying, realizing no, no, no,
meaning I'm about to be added to the list. Come on, dude,
as he's saying, what does the white boy start saying?
You're good? Bro? He calls him bro? Why because he
used to playing video gays calling people bro, call his

(40:14):
favorite athlete in Mississippi, bro, And he says, keep breathing, dude,
keep breathing, dude. You're gonna be all right. Stay with me,
Stay with me. The whole damn language you here on Chicago,
p D and law and order, that old bullshit. Why
they are looking at us not as humans? You shoot
at him and then you realize, oh shit. And that's
when doctor King would say they are more dangerous than
the open races. Why, because he's gonna say, I didn't.

(40:36):
I didn't twenty three years old. I got students twenty
three years old. What the hell you doing on the
police force because you've grown up in life thinking black
people aren't human and it's all fun and games to
the man's done in the street. At which points stay
with me, bro go to hell. Fry him, fry him.
Now you pay with your life, lock you up for life,
or give you what you gave him. But his defense

(40:57):
is gonna be out. I didn't mean it. I didn't
mean it. Well, like the case out of Minneapolis, I
didn't mean to do it. Unfortunately, we have seen that
happen far too often, folks, folks, and so we'll keep
y'all a breast of what happens with these two cases
out Louisiana and Mississippi. Ask well, all right, folks, we

(41:19):
tell you elections matter. Well, guess what In Wisconsin, liberals
have an opportunity to actually take over the state Supreme Court.
Y'all heard us on this show talk about how vital
judges are. We're gonna explain that coming up next, and
why the black vote could very well be the difference,
something Mandela Barnes and his white campaign managers clearly didn't understand.

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a horrific scene white nationalist rally that descended into deadly

(42:30):
violent White people are losing their dair minds. As an
angry approach, Trump Mark storms to the US Capital. We're
about to see the rise of what I call white
minority resistance. We have seen white folks in this country
who simply cannot tolerate black folks voting. I think what

(42:52):
we're seeing is the inevitable result of violent denials. This
is part of American history. Every time that people have
come in me progress, whether real or symbolic, there has
been the Carold Anderson at every university calls white rage
as a backlashes as the right of the proud Boys
and the Boogaloo Boys America. There's going to be more

(43:13):
of this, all the proud boy This country is getting
increasingly racist in its behaviors and its attitudes because of
the fear of white people, the fear that you're taking
our job, they're taking out resources, they're taking our women.
This is white feel Hi. I'm Gavin Hi, I'm Carl Payne.

(43:47):
He was up the audiship boy, Jacob Latimore. And you're
not watching Roland Martin right now, Folks. When we talk
about what is happening with vot of suppression in this country,
the closing of early voting locations, we can go on
and on and on. One of the battlegrounds is what

(44:09):
the state Supreme court. Remember the US Supreme Court ruled
this right wing court rule that they can't get involved
in political gerrymandering. They say is left up to the states. Well,
that's a problem when you have state supreme courts that
are jerrymandering as well. Wisconsin has been one of those battlegrounds.

(44:29):
The numbers don't lie. Republicans have actually rigged the elections
there in Wisconsin. Numerous stories have shown that if Democrats
got a got fifty five percent of all the votes
in Wisconsin, they would still be in the minority in
the legislature. You have a Democratic governor right now, what

(44:50):
do the Republicans do that control the legislature, stripped him
of a lot of his powers. That's what they have done.
But guess what now, that could very well change if
Democrats take control of the Wisconsin Supreme Court. Right now,
the right wing has a four to three majority, but

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a seat is up for grabs belonging to a retiring
conservative justice. Now, liberals in Wisconsin say they have an
opportunity to make a change. Judge Everett Mitchell, Judge Jennifer
ville Row, former Supreme Court Justice Dan Kelly, and Milwaukee
County Judge Janet protest whist. I hope that's been pronunci

(45:32):
the last day they're running. In the February twenty first primary,
Judge Mitchell holds to become the first black man elected
to be a Wisconsin Supreme Court justice and the second
to serve on the court. Democratic Governor Jim Doyle appointed
former Justice Lewis Butler in two thousand and four. Judge
Everett Mitchell joins us right now. Obviously, folks on the right. Realize,

(45:57):
Judge that this is important. Are you seeing Democrats properly
fun candidates? Are they really hitting the grass roots to
get people to understand that the Wisconsin Supreme Court dictates
so much that if you have a change in the
Wisconsin Court, you will then see what happens, same thing
that happened North Carolina when Democrats took control of the

(46:19):
state Supreme Court there and begin to rule against racial gerrymandering,
ruling against voter suppression. Well, thank you so much for
having me. I will say that I'm honored to be here,
and yes, I spent the majority of my campaign really
on the ground as a part of really trying to
translate the Supreme Court and its impact on every day wisconsinized,

(46:40):
especially those in the urban areas Milwaukee, Dame, Racing, Kenosha, Lacrosse,
and really trying to translate the power of the vote
and the necessity for us to make sure that we're
mobilizing and listening to those communities that are often affected
and disaffected and separated and marginalized from being able to
access to vote and also the voice minimalized in the process.

(47:01):
So you know, we've been hitting the ground this entire
time making sure that people understand this is important and
why this is going to be history making for us
to be able to elect, you know, the first African
America or person of color to serve on the wiscons
Supreme Court. Because representation matters, It matters a lot. We
saw what happened in the US Senate race in twenty
twenty two, fifty thousand fewer African Americans voted in Milwaukee

(47:25):
than they did in two eighteen. I had activists on
the show who said there was no significant voter outreach
from the Mandela Barnes campaign, which is astonishing to me.
Are you focused on Milwaukee? Are you really walking folks
through there to get black folks there to understand that

(47:46):
if they turn out any significant way, they could be
to make the difference. Yeah. I'll tell my wife all
the time, I should have bought another house in Milwaukee
because you spend so much time on the ground there,
you know, in faith communities, I've been I'm a master,
so I get a chance to go inside our churches
to talk to our pastors and talk to our community leaders,
our grassroots organizations, spending time. I was endorsed early by

(48:09):
Block Black leaders organizer for change for communities, and it's
been that moment ever since then. I've been, you know
ingrained in the moment of talking to all of them
from tree tops all the way down to the grassroots
about the importance of this race, running into that necessity
of blackness, because I need their votes. I need them
to be able to see this as a moment. And
sometimes since the November fourth election, the biggest question I've

(48:31):
been asked over and over again, even though I'm a
judge has been elected twice here in Madison, I'm often
get this question, well, since Mandela Loss, can a black
man win statewide election? And my answer is always yes,
You've done it twice already, and you did it to
him the first time. So the goal is to make
sure that we give them something that they can believe in,
somebody that there has actually done and fault for the

(48:52):
betterment of our community and done things that they can
believe it is going to change our community. If you
give me the power to be able to be in
that seat, you know, do the things I've done in
Dane County, take handcuffs off for kids, be able to transform,
put truming form practices in place, so that we see
reduction in car thefts. Listen, I don't brag about how
many people I've locked up. I brag about how many
futures I've saved. U. One of the things that we

(49:16):
have tried to do with this show is to really
walk people through and connect the dots to get them
to understand why judges matters. As you're out there, are
you having to do a lot of that or are
people really understanding the power that a state Supreme Court
justice will have. I keep telling people. All people who

(49:39):
would say, oh, judge Katanji Brown Jackson, that's just performative
by by President Biden, I'm like, you have no idea,
what the hell you're talking about the power of a
of a single federal judge. We're talking about a state
Supreme Court justice. You are the final arbiter of laws
in the state of Wisconsin. Yes, yeah, I think that
is the That is the gift that we're trying to

(49:59):
use to translate the individuals. I think it depends on
how people think, because often people think that judges, you know, one,
they don't look like me. So then secondly, it's translating
this sense that the courts are an important process of
being able to receive justice. And so many of our
people have felt like courts and court system and judges

(50:20):
one don't represent them, that they don't see fairness in it,
and so they disconnect from the entire process because they
don't see themselves connected to the overall justice outcomes as
they want. So what I've spent time doing is showing
them that representation matters the outcomes that I've seen as
a Dane County Cercent Court judge. When they tell me, well,
it don't even matter if I vote, I said no,
because if you had not voted, you wouldn't have voted

(50:41):
for me. And being in that position gives you the
power to be able to set the agenda in a
manner that brings fairness and equality in real time rather
than just kind of vague statements about what justice can
look like. So it is very important. It's very crucial
that the translation of these cases, you know, voting rights
and fair maps and reproductive choice or others things like,

(51:03):
you know, how we work with our young people to
make sure that they're going and being successful throughout the
court system, to make sure that they're not just broken
kids that we send up to traumatize into the adult system.
All of those kinds of things can be changed, but
you have to have a voice at the table that
is able to bring that and make it matter the
most to them. Questions from the panel, Erica your first. Yes,

(51:25):
Judge Mitchell, thank you so much for being on the
question that I have for you. You mentioned that you
are a pastor and so that you spend time speaking
with other members of clergy faith leaders. Because of the
pandemic COVID nineteen and there's been a the attendance for
people in church has dwindled some. What have you found

(51:48):
that that has been a barrier to get out your message?
It sounds from what you're sharing with us, especially with
the comment that your wife made about getting the second
home in Milwaukee, that you're definitely on the ground you
all are doing at work, but specifically to a community
that has been leaned on heavily for GEOTP efforts. What
are you finding there and messaging to the community with

(52:11):
your primary coming up so quickly, I think what is
winning the most is this idea that justice is not
just what you say, justice is what you do. That
a lot of the members in our community that they
feel this fatigue of trusting people that don't always bring
good results back to their communities. So, you know, going
back to the faith communities, going to you know, I'm

(52:33):
an Omega and Magaside five members, so hitting the Now,
let's look, if you're real clear, you should be making
those kind of pronouncement on this show. I mean you
should have just like left that out. I couldn't leave
that out. I had to put that out there. Now
you could you could have left that out. But I'm
gonna let you go ahead and finish. But uh, just
so you understand this right here stays on this set,

(52:57):
just so you understand right there. Yeah, yeah, this one
is going to be the Wisconsin's approach for just that
that that that's true. But but trust me, I'm gonna
thing you're gonna need some alpha votes for going right ahead,
go ahead, all right, but but as but I think
that is that those untapped potentials that you know, what
we have learned from you know, Mandela's race was the

(53:17):
idea that we must engage all groups. We have to
make sure we hit in faith panelinics, making sure that
we're talking to I talk to the links today. Uh,
you know, going to community centers, talking to veterans. I
spend time talking to a lot of veterans about their
stories about what they want to see, talking to I
go to bus stops, I go to community centers, barber shops,
everywhere that we are communicating together, I'm there having that

(53:41):
conversation so that they can see and touch a justice.
Sometimes I'm the first black judge that many of our
communities have ever touched before. So whether I'm in spaces
and giving hugs, and you know, sometimes I take my
black robe with me and I'll take go see some
kids and I'll take my robe and put it on them,
zip it up, had a mama's take pictures and just
let them know this is who you can be in
the future. And I think that the vulnerability that touch

(54:04):
is what'th giving the momentum for people to say, maybe
we can do this one more time and give the
energy to come out for this young man and vote
let big. Now go to my alpha brother, doctor Greg Cars. Yes, sir,
Tea teamed up on me. Now that's all right, brother,
We're gonna look. We gotta power and omega with alpha power.
So we already know that. Brother, you know, we gotta
turn out. That's really what I want to ask you, Judge.

(54:26):
We know that one of these guys you're running against
and the top two go on. If not, but this guy, Kelly,
he was on the Supreme Court before, right, and and
understand the billionaires are trying to back him, this Richard
old hind and then pouring money in probably gonna spend
more than ten million dollars in this race. Could you
talk to us about what your network needs and what

(54:47):
you need in terms of financial support and what's going
to be the most expensive race certainly in the country,
and a lot of people are saying it, I would
agree with them, the most important race before the twenty
twenty four election. Realizing that what it's that state could
literally be the rest of the country in terms of democracy,
with the whole question of well not this Wisconsin state

(55:08):
legislature is going to be checked be could you talk
a little about what what you need from us in
terms of financial support so you can write these checks
to you to you brother, oh make a sci fi
No no problem. I ain't gonna call you a youth group.
That's whether Roland would say, but you know, yeah, we
hate it's real. Hey, I don't want to hear about
right coming from either because I know you're gonna get

(55:29):
me if I say something about the que So but
but what do you need from us? Brother? You know
one thing about judges. We can't talk about donations, but
I will say that you know, I've been out donated
by a lot of liberal groups because you know, they
don't always see the promise of having someone who can
be as effective as I can be in bringing all
groups together, you know, And so you know, any any

(55:52):
donations because we need to be able to compete, get
our message on TV, get across screens. But as we
get past this primary, we know that there will be
a consolidation of resources and so from inside and outside
the state so that we can make sure that we
have a consistent, powerful message. I think the message that
we have and that one we've created and the story
of my life has been one that has connected with
all Wisconsin Nites, both rule and urban together and I'm

(56:15):
looking forward to that just getting on this show and
making sure that this is something that we can push
out to the Milwaukee voters and get this in front
of them so they can see that they have a choice.
I start running this race, my brothers is Sisters is
because I wanted to make sure that wealthy people behind
the shadows don't get to make choices for our community.
I wanted to ensure that our people, our community, all

(56:36):
segments of Wisconsin, had a choice of someone who comes
to the table with an experience of poverty, homelessness, but
also working hard to be transformed. Because you have supportive
black women in your life that believe in you and
push you towards your destiny, and I want to return
that favor back to the communities that I serve quickly,
Recie Goal. I just wanted to say, you run up

(57:00):
against any kind of pushback in terms of electability. I know,
with our senator or would be Senator Mental Barns Lieutenant
governor losing. Do you think that that has impacted people's
willingness to support your candidacy. Yes, that's the first question
I had heard right after November the fifth was this
notion of can you can a black man win if

(57:21):
Mandela Bonds lost? And so what I've also told them
is that you know, we have to learn to move
away from this idea of treating us all the same.
You know, I have a degree from more House College
to degree from Princes of Theological Seminary and you know
my Jurish doctor from the University Wisconsin Madison Law School.
My achievements are should speak for themselves and the accomplishments
that we've had here in my city to reduce the

(57:44):
juvenile contest about forty seven percent taking handcuffs off with
children impleting these trauma in form cares. That is changing
the destiny and face so that we're not sending the
more people up in the criminal justice system. Is a
reminder that pay attention to the content of who people
are and not just the judgment of aligning us and
believing we're all the same. My strategies are different, outcomes
can be different because we have lived different paths. So yes,

(58:06):
I run into it, but I continue to have a
message of success to remind people that we have You know,
we voted for black Man state wide before he had
the name that everybody wasn't familiar with, but we got
behind him and because of that, he changed the destiny
of our nation. And I think we have an opportunity
to do the same here for our court system and
for the children who's look into the mirror and need
to see a reflection of them at the Wisconsin Supreme Court.

(58:28):
All right, Judge Edward Mitchell, we sortily appreciate it. Thank
you so very much. Good luck. Uh and of course,
as we always say, on with an upward. But that
that's that's that's an Alpha selover. You can't you can't
say that. But I'm just gonna say, onward an upwards.
We'll we'll go ahead and you know, get extend the

(58:48):
we'll extend the Alpha hand to you, uh with I'm
gonna give you some uplift. We're gonna give you some uplift.
Oh well, well it's you know, it's a little hard
to have uplift where you already on top. I always remember, Judge,
alpha's your daddy. All Right, we got we got to go.

(59:10):
Good luck, Thank you, I appreciate it. Thanks so much.
All y'all we come back. I told y'all about contract
negotiation the HBCUs what my man Scotty all script TV.
He got his hands on the swack, the swack deal
with ESPN. Y'all gonna be shocked to see how little

(59:33):
the swack is getting from ESPN. That's next. I'm rolling
Mark unfiltered on the Black Start Network. Live Start Network

(59:58):
is part it's a real own revolutionary right now than
you for me in the voice of black amara moment
that we have now, we have to keep this going.
The video look phenomenal. Between Black Star Network and Black
owned media and something like CNN, you can't be black
owned media and be scared. It's time to be smart.

(01:00:20):
Bring your eyeballs hole you dig on a next A
balanced life with me, doctor Jackie, a relationship that we
have to have. We're often afraid of it and don't
like to talk about it. That's right. We're talking about
our relationship with money. And here's the thing. Our relationship

(01:00:41):
with money oftentimes determines whether we have it or not.
The truth is, you cannot change what you will with
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On A balanced life with me, Doctor Jackie. Here at
Black Star Network. Most people think that these television shows

(01:01:01):
that tell stories about who we are as black men,
and then they paint these monolithic portraits of us. They
think that they're being painted by white people. And I
gotta tell you, there are a whole bunch of black
folks right that are the creators, right, The head writers, right,
the directors of all of these shows, and that are

(01:01:23):
still painting us as monoliths. The people don't really want
to have this conversation. Hi, this is Essence Atkins, Sam

(01:01:44):
Bianco from Blackest Everybody just Shmi, Fred Hammond and you're
watching Roland Martin my man Unfiltered. All right, y'all, glad

(01:02:14):
we're back rolling mont Unfiltered. So I remember several months
ago I said on this show that if you do
not have the expertise at negotiating deals, go hire the
people who do have the expertise. You. You always talk
about Southwestern Athletic Conference being a power conference and how

(01:02:37):
much money is being generated, things along those lines. Well,
my man Scottie with Oscarp TV actually got his hands
on the swacks actual contract with the Southwestern Athletic Conference. Now,
keep in mind when we talk about media rights deals

(01:02:58):
ESPN has with the Big Big ten and the Pac
Pac twelve and the Big twelve and the SEC, we're
talking billions of dollars. We're talking billions of dollars. Texas
and Oklahoma just agreed to give the Big twelve one

(01:03:19):
hundred million dollars so they can leave one year early.
You don't cut a check for one hundred million unless
you know you're gonna make that money back. So how
much is the Swack actually getting from ESPN for their deals? Well,

(01:03:39):
Scottie Jones is right now. Of course Scotti is a
contributor for the Blackstar Network. So Scottie, you've and on
your end, you so you can pull up on your end,
you can correct well, because something you pull like you
do in your show, you can do that, right. Yeah,
I know I didn't know I had to do it,
but I got you, Scott that's what you the last
three times you be on the show. And come on,
it's ain't like you know you see look at you.

(01:04:01):
Let's see, come on, I ain't know you were gonna
have me faking kind of. Did you bring up last time?
You're right? I did you bring up the previous time?
But with that, yeah, and once before that, you're right.
That's you're right, thank you? I thought so. All right,
So let's get let's get let's get right to it
all right. First of all, how much is the how

(01:04:22):
much is ESPN paying the Swack for their media rights deal?
And this is not just football, correct, No, it's uh,
it's I think it's for all the events. It's kind
of for all events. But so it's so thirteen different sports, right, Yeah,
they have they're able to grab whatever they want and

(01:04:43):
they're like championship wise or a certain game or anything
like that. But it's usually focused around basketball and football.
So what's so basketball, football, baseball? So thirteen different sports?
How much is the check the ESPN is cutting the
entire conference four hundred thous dollars the previous Oh I'm sorry,

(01:05:05):
I'm sorry. Hold up, did you say is that four
hundred thousand per school? No? No, No, the contract in
totality four hundred Okay, how many swack schools are we
talking about? Twelve? There's twelve? Now, so you have you
have two different contracts. You have the first one before
FAMU and Bethune mccame, which was four hundred thousand, and

(01:05:26):
then you have the amendment that was just signed in
twenty twenty one, which is of seven hundred thousand. So
that's where we're at now. But the first contract was
four hundred thousand, and the first contract was four hundred
thousand dollars for how many schools? Ten? Now we're talking
seven hundred thousand for twelve schools. Yes, And what people
also don't understand, ESPN is not paying the production cost

(01:05:52):
of these games. The schools are sending them their signal. Right, yes,
they're sitting. So the school they do the production so
they video take the game, and then they send the
signal to ESPN. Okay, and we talk about these games.
The games are not being shown on ESPN or ESPN two. Basically,

(01:06:15):
what ESPN is doing is they're driving these to their
ESPN Plus platform, which folks actually have to pay to get.
So what is that fee per month? I believe they
went up, so I think it's ninety nine now, So
so in order to get it, you're gonna pay nine

(01:06:37):
ninety nine a month. So that's so let's so let's
let's say that that that that that's that's ten bucks.
So that means that let's just say, let's just say
for the sake of around number, let's just say twenty
thousand Swack fans subscribe to ESPN's digital platform to see

(01:07:00):
their games. That means that if if I pull up,
if I pull up my calculator here, that means that
I'm just gonna just in y'all, this is just some
rudimentary math here. We're just gonna just go ahead. Let me,
let me, let me do a put through the screen share.
I just want y'all to see that. So that means
that if if twenty thousand, if twenty thousand, twenty five

(01:07:23):
thousand Swack fans spend get a year's subscription at ten
dollars a month, that's one hundred and twenty dollars a year. Right, yep,
I'm sorry, I think that number was wrong, as Scotty
hold up. Twenty five thousand Swack fans spend ten dollars

(01:07:45):
a month, which or one hundred and twenty dollars a
year on ESPN's digital platform. That's one hundred and twenty dollars.
That means that ESPN is generating three million dollars in
revenue from those twenty five thousand SWAT fans and the

(01:08:08):
whole conference. They're only getting seven hundred thousand back from ESPN.
That's correct, that's that's that's the numbers. Like they say,
women lie, men lie, numbers don't lie in any world.
How is that a smart deal? It's not. I mean,

(01:08:30):
at the end of the day, you have to understand
your market value in the ESPN World and ESPN Plus.
You have a whole base of fans that you have
been cultivating since nineteen twenty. That's that's when the SWAT
conference was initiated in nineteen twenty. So you have a
base of fans that's not even the conference that's adding

(01:08:50):
to schools and moving up from D two going to
D one. You've been cultivating fans for the last hundred years.
So when they ask you to bring all your kind
towards ESPN Plus, that means as well as all the
eyes that come along with it. And twenty thousand row
that's chump change. That's chump I mean, that's that's when
the super lighting. That's if you really really want you know,

(01:09:14):
it's over at least half a million viewers easily. And
then when you renegotiate this contract in twenty twenty one
and you add Dion, you add FAM, you you add
Bethune Cooking, you only see the need to go up
three hundred thousand dollars. So how long is this contract
till twenty twenty five to twenty twenty five? And does

(01:09:38):
this is just seven hundred each year? Does it ever
get to a million? No, it does not. And I
have them. I have it pulled up whenever your team
is ready. Now go ahead, because you pull up your end,
we'll show Livlari and go ahead. Okay, let me share
my screen. Uh, y'all, you guys, this fancy stuff over here.

(01:10:02):
Let me see if I can find it. No, I
can't find it, but um, I'm gonna email it to
your people so they can bring it up in your
I'll just do this here. First of all, I'm gonna
go switch back to your switch back to your screen.
We're gonna actually go to a break in a second.
We're gonna come back. So see if you can pull
up in the break. Uh. And the reason I'm walking

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through this, people is because other department, other school athletic departments,
they're building new facilities based off of these media deals.
We're now living in a digital world. Y'all. Just saw
me do the math. So imagine if the SWAT says, look,
and let me be real clear, y'all for everybody who's watching,

(01:10:44):
and you try to understand when we say ESPN's digital
platform that literally is no different in the Blackstart Networks
OTT platform. That's literally no different than us being on
in the our signal and we're on Amazon News and
other platforms. It's no different than HBCU League Pass, it's

(01:11:08):
no different than the other platforms out there. If you
tell people where to go, they're gonna go to see it.
And then what ESPN is doing, they're not even showing
you the things that you actually want to see, like
the halftime show. And in fact, if you watch the
Celebration Bowl, you know what they did. You saw some
of the halftime, but they actually said go to the

(01:11:29):
ESPN Plus app if you want to watch the halftime show. So,
if you're the SWAT, why aren't you creating your own
swack digital network? And if you got twenty thousand fans
or twenty five thousand fans to say, we're gonna show
you all of these and you can generate the money
for yourself, what are you actually getting from ESPN that's

(01:11:51):
worthy of seven hundred thousand dollars. I'm gonna go to
a break. We're gonna talk about this, John Pound, will
we come back, Scottie, We'll stay with this as well.
Y'all always talk about where's our money? This is a
bad deal and I would love to have the SWAT
come on the show and explain to me why this
is a smart deal. Seven hundred thousand dollars total for

(01:12:16):
twelve schools. I'm when we come back, I'm gonna tell
y'all how much money we made on YouTube last year.
We made more money on YouTube last year. In a
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(01:15:19):
about Scotti from our Script TV. You can challenge YouTube,
challenge subscribe as well. Scottie, So you got your hands
on the SWAT contract that's showing how much they're making.
And look, several years ago the SWAP was almost bankrupt.
I mean they were somebody not making any money. And
the thing is we're now just living in a totally
different world. And here's what I fundamentally believe we're is

(01:15:43):
no doubt, and I've talked about this here. I believe
that in many ways, we as African Americans are falling
for the oaky doke of exposure. I think people are
getting hyped by Oh it's ESPN. Here's the problem. You're
on the app, your games are how how I mean,

(01:16:05):
at the end of the day, how many actual swack
games are being shown live on ESPN one or ESPN two.
I'm not talking about on tape delay at three o'clock
in the morning. I'm talking about live. We're not talking
about a lot of games, are we. No. In the

(01:16:26):
season probably two, you have the Meak and Swack, the
Meak and Swack Challenge that gets put on ESPN two.
You have the Celebration Bowl that was put on ESPN two,
and then you have the Celebration Bowl. So about three
games and most of those are all ESPN events. So
ESPN has a part to play and there yeah, yeah,

(01:16:46):
those two are so. So let's say the Florida's the
Florida and m Jackson State game. Was that on ESPN
one or two? I believe it was on ESPN three. Yeah,
so just Meak and Swack and the celebration boat ESPN
two and so again, So this this idea that you're
getting this level of exposure, you're actually not. You're not

(01:17:11):
to the extent of where you want it to be, right,
because they feel like this, if you're if I already
know that I got your eyes like on ESPN Plus,
or I know that I can funnel you there and
you won't make up people about it because you're just
happy to be on ESPN, then they don't have a
problem charging you, putting you behind a paywall and making
you pay to go see something that they can put

(01:17:32):
on their own that the schools can show themselves, because
literally that's what they're doing. They're showing the game and
they're sending the stream to ESPN, and all they're doing
is repackaging it and selling it back to you. But
you also, if we now also are now living in
a whole different world. So so here's the question versus, Okay,
do a deal. I'm just curious if the swat uh

(01:17:52):
put put put put out feelers and saying hey, we'll
take we'll take all commerce. You got the NFL network
out there. I mean, you've got you got, you got
Fox Sports out there again. You have other opportunities that
are out there that and I just simply believe that
in many ways we are not you. Hear rappers talk
about this all the time. We talk, we keep talking

(01:18:14):
about what's for the culture. But I think we've got
to learn to stop being so excited about white validation
and realize that it comes down to the comes down
to the money. I'm sorry, seven hundred thousand dollars for
thirteen sports and you're sending me to signal it's a

(01:18:37):
not a lot of money. I see everybody to understand
who's watching? Okay, last year on YouTube, we generated a
million dollars in ad revenue off of YouTube. That means
that this show generated. Now granted, it cost us two
point six billion dollars to run this show, run the network,

(01:18:58):
so let's not let's be real clear here. That means
that we, as blackstart network four years old. My show
is four years old. The network is a year and
some change old. We generated more money in advertising from
YouTube last year then the entire swack gets from ESPN

(01:19:24):
and they get three hundred thousand less than we generated
it doesn't when it doesn't make any sense knowing how
valuable life sports is in this commodity. You have Amazons,
you have Apple TV paying from Major League Soccer. You
don't even nobody watches that, Okay, like it's football is

(01:19:47):
America's pastime. And you have a base that is already
rampant for their own football. So explain to me how
you walk into a deal saying that we're only worth
three hundred thousand dollars when you just got Dion Sanders
a touchdown in your conference and you added a perennial
brand as fam you, it doesn't make any sense. So

(01:20:09):
you have the Florida market, you have all the Southern
market in the same in the same geographical area as
the SEC. So most Southern fans are LSU fans. Most
Alabama fans are Alabama State and Alabama and M fans.
So you have the double flexibility in that. And you
and you tell he's being you know what, just pay
me three hundred thousand more dollars and we're good to go.

(01:20:30):
That's sixty K purse school that come on, No, yep,
sixty K per school. Wow. Questions from my panel. I'll
start with the Tennessee State Graduate First, Ah, thank you
Roland in fact, and thank you Rus Scotty. This is
so important, such an important conversation. I guess I'm listening
to you all talk about these numbers. I've always wondered

(01:20:51):
something about ancillary revenue streams. I was at the celebration
boat in Atlanta, you know, Roland was covering the whole thing,
and man, all the switch shirts and T shirts and
all the fly gear, and I'm saying that, and you know,
I want to rock all that stuff. Man, I'm wondering,
is there way for the swack to play off of
this deal that they've negotiated and badly to generate alternative

(01:21:14):
revenue streams and kind of capture something because it's a
lot of money spent by folk who never touch at
HBCU campus, but now they want to rock the vhell. Well,
I always think about that. Well, there's a problem with that, Scottie.
You can break it down, because here's what a lot
of people don't realize. There is a lot of these
schools have signed deals with a major agency out of

(01:21:39):
Hollywood that literally does nothing to brand HBCUs and the
schools are paying a fee and this, this group, this,
this group is supposed to be going out doing licensing
deals and they basically ain't done nothing for many of
these HBCUs. Right, Scottie, that's right, you're talking about this.

(01:22:00):
You have two prominent ones that you hear about. Is
you talked about the Peak Sports that was fam Use Agency,
and then you have the CFC Collegiate Licensing Corporation. So
what they do is they scoop all these brands up
and then if you're a person to trying to make
T shirts or trying to make a brand from the schools,
you go through them to get the license, and then

(01:22:21):
whatever you make, you're supposed to give a revenue sharing
back to the school. It could be ten percent, it
could be fifty percent of all your sales. Well, you
have a two part to that because some people don't
go through that process. If you go to a lot
of SWAT games, you'll see people on the side of
the road selling merchandise that's not material going back to
the school. Or you know, you have times where CLC

(01:22:42):
does not collect what they're supposed to collect from the
actual people. But you have a lot of HBC alums
who do this, so they make sure it's their business,
like the Anthony Lawrence Collection, you know, public figure, you
have all those guys who are graduates from same institutions
and they make sure they give back to their institutions.
So but you have the CLC collecting all these brands

(01:23:04):
and making it hard and jump through all these SUPs
to be a part of these programs, and then they're
not even doing their due deal to just to make
sure that money is being funneled back to the school.
And this is what I keep saying about those schools.
If you're cutting a check to CC every year, you
should be saying, what is our rate of return? What
are we getting back? And if we're not seeing our
products in local grocery stores, if we're not seeing them

(01:23:26):
in the local Walgreens or the cvs where we are,
then why are we paying you? And guess what, there
are black companies out here who actually know what they're
doing and they can actually do those deals, and so
these schools are getting screwed. I know of one company
that has has the rights to several HBCUs they haven't

(01:23:50):
even been on an HBCU campus and it's a white
owned company. Rec No, I don't have any questions. Really,
I think you guys have a cover. It just sounds
like it's in an adequate deal from my perspective. Erica,
H excuse me, nice mug Erica. I'm thinking about value

(01:24:25):
and name, image and likeness, and so in terms of
what you describe, how does this UM does this funnel
down and impact those UM collegiate athletes that are looking
for those type of deals to protect their name, image
and likeness as they're thrust into UM the spotlight and
they're being very savvy with their own social media. I

(01:24:47):
think for for the players, you know, the schools have
to well. The schools can't do they can't facilitate, so
you have to get an alumni outside organizations to facilitate it.
But you need to do well with your local markets,
right because you're not in the situation of Ohio State
where you're on a national platform where everybody knows your name,
Bryce Young's and all those Zeke Elliots and things like that.

(01:25:08):
So you have to do a great job of of
mobilizing your local base, the local car, the local car dealer,
the local restaurant, to allow those brands to facilitate the athletes,
to facilitate those brands because why they're the closest to you,
you know what I'm saying. So when you go to
a Southern game and you see a Jason Dumis or

(01:25:30):
you see a Noah Boden, those quarterbacks, well they resonate
with the Baton Rouge community because those are the people
who go see them. So you need Baton Rouge commerce
to support that brand, you know what I'm saying. And
there's a lot of people that do that. You have
Cares South with Southern. I mean they're like hand in hand,
so they do a good job, but you got to

(01:25:51):
do a better job of getting these athletes out there
as well. And Roland, let me say this. My issue
is this is that I said this on my channel.
It always starts at the headman. If the head man
doesn't have the vision or doesn't have the expertise to
take you somewhere, there's always going to be a ceiling.
It's no different than a mentor with a mentory. You

(01:26:12):
can't take me somewhere you haven't been. You can't negotiate
on something you don't understand. So the process of how
they're hiring the commissioners of these conferences is just as
bad and the way that they're facilitating these deals because
you're putting somebody well, I'm but I'm gonna actually push

(01:26:32):
back a little bit on that. This is where also
you've got to have presidents and ads who know what
the hell they're talking about. The reality is FAMU fires
an athletic director claiming he negotiated a deal with Urban
Agge Network. When he didn't, they signed their rights away

(01:26:53):
to another organization, and urban Age, which handles some advertising
for us. They did a deal with that company that
was a lie. And so you had folks who were like,
oh my god, like, how did this FAMU car getting
the NASCAR race? They didn't even have to talk to
the university. The people don't even realize how many of

(01:27:13):
these universities are signing their deals away. When we talk
about this. Last year, when I went to the un
the UNCF conference, I had a president who came to me.
They don't have a football team, he said, Rollan, I
was watching your show, he said. You know when I
went and did I went back exactly what you said.
I pulled all of our contracts. I pulled our food contracts,

(01:27:35):
I pulled pulled our janitorial contracts. I said they should
be studying this. Here's the reality, and I know this
for a fact. A number of SWAT presidents never even
saw the ESPN deal absolutely, which then says, hold up,
they're supposed to be the ones who ratify the deal.

(01:27:56):
So how are you doing? How are you even having
deals that you but even voted on or you haven't
even looked at. This is what I'm talking about. If
you don't have people in the room. Look, look, look
what just happened. A Southern and Jackson State are not
playing that game in Birmingham because they determined financially it

(01:28:18):
didn't make any sense for them. This is where I
keep saying for African Americans, whether we're talking about a conference,
individual HBCUs, black churches, black organizations, We've got to have
people who are sitting at the table who literally have
expertise in these areas. And if we don't, then we've

(01:28:43):
gotten to say, let me go find some people who
do so we can fully monetize and maximize our value.
Otherwise we're leaving money on the floor and other people
are getting rich. And let me be real clear, there
are a lot of people who are getting rich off
of our HBCUs and not the HBCUs. No, You're absolutely correct,

(01:29:08):
And I mean it's just like any other commissioner. The
commissioner works for the president, so what the presidents allowed
the commissioners able to do. So that's one. And at
the end of the day, I've you know, I have
a show and I cover HBCUs and I have a
good time doing it. But the crazy thing to me
is I argue with HBCU A lums. They tell me that,
you know, when I tell them they're worth one hundred

(01:29:30):
million a year, they're worth two hundred million a year.
They pushed back on me, like where are you coming
up with these numbers? And I'm like, you don't value
the black dollar, you don't value black eyes, you don't
value a black audience, because there's no way that you
can lead fcs and attendance consistently. There's no way that
blacks are the highest rated that watching television by far.

(01:29:54):
And we have a trillion dollar buying power and you're
telling me that we're our culture. What we do that
people copy emulate, take away from us constantly. It's not
worth over one hundred million dollars a year. Why do
you think they ask for the bands to come to
the PWI schools because they don't do it like we

(01:30:15):
do it. Why do you think they want the dancing
girls there because they don't do it like we do it.
So not having not seeing value in that is beyond me.
And for you to walk into a deal and just say,
you know what, just give us three hundred more thousand
dollars and will be good. What can sixty k perse
school do for an HBCU Folks, All Script TV subscribed

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She is the Ambassador to the United Nations for United

(01:33:04):
States Lendon Thomas Greenfield a chance to kids with her.
Earlier today, talked about the first anniversary of Ukraine We also,
of course, talked about some other issues Africa, Haiti, Ethiopia
as well. Here's our conversation, our ambassador, Let's get right
to it. Two twenty two, one hundred and thirteen billion
dollars in aid, various forms of aid provided to Ukraine

(01:33:27):
from other United States. A lot of folks and whenever
we did with the Ukraine, a lot of people in
my audience, they immediately say, why are we spending that
much money on Ukraine. That money can be going to
African Americans or other interests in the United States. How
do you respond to that. Look, we're defending Ukraine's efforts
to defend us. Russia's attack on Ukraine is an attack

(01:33:52):
on democracy, It is an attack on all of our values.
It is an attack on the u n's charter is
the charter gives us the responsibility for peace and security
around the world. And this fight is our fight, and
if we don't defend Ukraine, we may be defended having

(01:34:15):
to defend this on our own borders. So this is
a fight for America, it's a fight for for the world,
and it's keeping us at the moment from being engaged
on the ground ourselves in this fight obviously a ton
of money, but there still is no end in sight.

(01:34:36):
And so you have Republican critics. You have folks again,
just regular ordinary people who are saying you'll get you know,
how much loan? Does it continue? Does a tab go
to two hundred billion, three hundred billion? Again? You know,
what do you say to folks who are concerned about that,
about the amount of money that we're spending, because look,
this could go on. You know, we don't know how

(01:34:57):
long ago on Putin. Uh he clearly has not responded
to the kind of pressure. This has not ended thus far.
You know, this is going to have to go on
as long as it takes for Ukraine to defend itself
and for Russia to stop his aggression against Ukraine. And

(01:35:19):
I think we've heard it said over and over again.
Freedom is not free. We have to pay for freedom.
We have to fight for freedom, and that's what we're
fighting for. Ukraine is a smaller country having been attacked
by a larger neighbor. Russia is a bully. And if
Russia gets away with bullying Ukraine, then who will be next?

(01:35:41):
And then who will be next after that? And suddenly
we're all engaged in this so we have to stop
this now, and we have to support Ukraine's efforts to
defend itself. And it's been bipartisan. So there are people
who have raised concerns, but the support for what the
President is doing in Ukraine has been roundly bipartisan. And

(01:36:05):
we have to continue to put Ukraine in a position
where they can defend themselves and they're in a strong
position when and if they are decided to go to
the negotiating table. A couple of things that also jump out.
I've had a number of folks on social media. I
even had them on the show talk about what has

(01:36:26):
been happening in Ethiopia and the Gray region. We were
talking about obviously an African nation, uh, you know, close
to Sadayan. We were dealing an issue there as well.
Um that has been described in some places as a
humanitarian crisis. But there are a lot of people, a
lot of Ethiopians in this country who are very concerned,
who literally who you know, hit me all the time

(01:36:48):
saying why is it more attenching being paid? Can you
give folks uh some perspective in terms of what the
United States has done that in that part of the world,
in that African country. Good. Thank you so much for
asking me that question, because it is an important question.
And here in New York at the Security Council, I

(01:37:08):
was sometimes a lone voice at the Council demanding that
we address the issues that were occurring in Ethiopia, the
massive killings, the human rights violations, the starvation, the lack
of humanitarian assistance. And I will tell you over and
over again, me and other members of the Security Council,

(01:37:30):
I won't take all of the credit for it. We
were all working to bring this before before the Security Council,
and we were blocked. We were blocked by our Russian
and Chinese colleagues, and we were blocked by efforts made
by Ethiopia to keep this off the Council's agenda. And

(01:37:52):
we did get it on the Council agenda, we did
get briefings, we did call out our concerns about the
situation on the ground. But we could have done more.
We should have done more, because thousands of people died
on both sides. There was no right side of this war.
This was a war in which Ethiopians were fighting Ethiopians.

(01:38:15):
It was brothers against brothers, so there was no right side.
And I am pleased at the moment that the ceasefire
that was forged in December is still standing and that
the fighting has stopped, and that some humanitarian assistance is
getting into the Degree region. But this was something that

(01:38:38):
again we all should have done more to stop. Another
area of interest, obviously is Haiti. This week we reported
on the indictments that took place for individuals who were arrested,
eleven people who were arrested as part of this conspiracy

(01:38:58):
to assassinate UH President Boys Uh. That Uh, that that
has led to so much upheaval there as well. What
is the United States doing, uh to help beyond the prosecution,
but from the Department of Justice to help stabilize that
country because these games are still in control. What's happening there? Uh,

(01:39:19):
We're still seeing massive unrest in Haiti. It is as
if that country just can't get a break again. Another
question that I really appreciate. I have been actively engaged
on Haiti. I traveled to Haiti to uh the funeral
of President Moise, and I've engaged quite a bit with

(01:39:41):
members of Congress as well as with Haitians on the
situation on the ground there. We're working on this issue
in the in the Security Council to come up with
a security apparatus that is acceptable to the Haitian people
UH and one and which we can get in there

(01:40:02):
and provide the security that the Haitians need in order
to continue to live their lives. And we're working currently
on a resolution that will give support to a non
UN multilateral force that will go in to provide that assistance.
We have worked with a number of countries who have

(01:40:25):
volunteered to send troops in support of that effort, and
we're trying to move that as quickly as we possibly can.
In the meantime, the United States is you know, we
did arrest some of the individuals who have been accused
to have been involved in the killing and assassination of

(01:40:46):
the president, and we're continuing to support those efforts through
the FBI. When you talk about that security apparatus, how
many people were taught these soldiers are we talking about,
Because again I've talked to jack Lyn Charles, a Ward
Rinner reporter with the Miami Herald who spends a lot
of time there in just how how people are just

(01:41:09):
just frightened because in essence, these gangs are aligned with police.
If you even have have police in the military, so
folk have absolutely no idea who to trust, and the
call and the kidnappings continue as well, you know, just
as unabated. And so are we talking what several thousand
and five, ten thousand, twenty thousand. I can't give you

(01:41:33):
a number of countries will make decisions on how many
troops that they can contribute. And you know, I don't
even think we need twenty thousand troops. We don't need
ten thousand troops. We need a contingent of troops who
are committed to providing security and supporting the Haitian people.

(01:41:55):
And that determination will be made by military people, by experts,
not by diplomats. But they should know that we support
their efforts, uh, and they will will the United States
be contributing troops to that effort as well? The United
States is working with the various countries to determine what
role we will play. Last question for you, we uh

(01:42:19):
in this also ties to Haiti. The deportation issue has
been in the United States has been very controversial as well. UH.
And and so what what what kind of what are
you getting from other countries when they look at again,
you know, we've been sending folks back to Haiti, deporting
other folks because what's been happening on our border as well. Uh,

(01:42:40):
there are some who still believe that they're as inequality
in terms of how black immigrants are being treated compared
to immigrants from other countries such as Cuba and other
places along those lines. Well, this is, as you know,
are an extraordinarily complicated issue for us, and I was
very pleased that the President did an announced parole for

(01:43:01):
Haitians that allow those Haitians and family members to be reunited,
something that we have done similarly with other places in
the world. And we're working to address more consistently the
needs of the Haitian people. Details about the deportation deportations

(01:43:25):
encourage you to talk to our dhs about those, but
know that we are working to try to support as
many Haitians as we possibly can through the parole system,
but also support them on the ground in Haiti. Last
question for you, China spends an inordinate amount of money
on the continent of Africa, and a lot of people

(01:43:47):
obviously are concerned about that in terms of being able
to controlling so much. And one of the things that
I've said is that in the United States. We look
at that continent from a again from an aid standpoint
in versus an investment standpoint. Uh severnal of the ten
fastest growing economies are on the in the Motherland, and

(01:44:08):
you have so many things going to be happening over
the next thirty to fifty years. And so how is
the United States position to see African nations as economic
partners not just simply a rendering aid for humanitarian crisis
because again, if we're we're just sort of looking in
them that way, China's going to increase their foothold in

(01:44:28):
these countries. You know, we can't downplay the importance of
humanitarian aid when people are in need. And Africans know.
I had a conversation recently with an African leader who said,
we know that Africa is in the heart of America,

(01:44:48):
and America is in the heart of Africa, and our
support to the African people when they're in their time
of need is never ever questioned. But the point on
development assistance, I was just looking at our statistics for
imports and exports to Africa. We have an extraordinary program

(01:45:09):
called the Africa Growth and Opportunity Act. The AGOA forum
is going to be hosted in South Africa this year
through the Act. More than forty billion dollars in exports
from Africa to the United States and from the US
to Africa have taken place under AGOA in the past year.

(01:45:32):
So we're engaged with Africa on the developments and trade
side as well. And while Africans have a choice, we're
not telling them what choice to make, but we're treating
Africans as equal partners. The Leaders Summit that the President
hosted in December last year was an extraordinary success. We

(01:45:55):
had leaders from across Africa here in the United States
engaging with American companies, engaging with our leaders to talk
about how we can take that partnership even further. And
it's the partnership that we tremendously appreciate. And I know
on the African side, countries appreciate the partnership that they

(01:46:18):
have with the United States. And are you seeing African
American businesses also participate in that? I am. I think
we can do more to encourage African American businesses to
invest in in Africa. We can do more to support
their efforts the small businesses. So UH agency is one

(01:46:41):
agency that I think can work with African countries, but
there are also huge African American companies that could be
investing in the continent. And I think we and I
put myself in that place, we have to do more
to encourage those companies to uh see the benefit of
investing in Africa, and on the other side of this,

(01:47:02):
encourage African countries to welcome African American businesses to the continental.
Last question, this is a Black History Month. There's a
young African American who's watching, who may not know that
Ralph Bunch was the first African Americans window Nobel Peace Prize.
What would you say to a young brother, a young
sister who has never thought about the idea of being

(01:47:23):
an American diplomat and that just sort of that's a
foreign idea to them. What would you say to that
person while you think about it, That's the first thing
I would say. Think about it. Because I was that
young African American, I grew up in Louisiana, I had
no clue this career was even out there, let alone

(01:47:45):
a possibility for me. And through circumstances and experiences, I
eventually was introduced to this. I never even knew that
there was a possibility for me to be the United
States Ambassador to the United Nations or be a diplomat.
I spent thirty five years in the Foreign service, traveling

(01:48:07):
all over the world. So I encourage them to think
about it. Go on to the State Department's website. You know,
there's a website at careers at State dot gov. Look
at that website. We have internship programs for African Americans,
so this is a possibility for them. And then I
would add to that, look at the United Nations. It

(01:48:28):
is rare that I see an African American working in
the United Nations. That's where Ralf Bunch started in the
United Nations. There there's a park here right outside this
building commemorating Ralph Bunch. We have a library in the
State Department commemorating Ralph Bunch. And he started all of

(01:48:51):
this for all of us. I'm continuing it, and I
hope the next generation is looking at your program and
thinking about how they can usue a career in the
foreign service. All right, Am bacheldor Thomas greenfeel always good
to see you. Last time was at the Jackie Robinson
Museum opening, and so thanks for chatting. Look forward to

(01:49:11):
have you back again that I look forward to it
and I have to go back to that museum. I
really enjoyed being there but didn't spend enough time. Absolutely,
thanks so much, Thank you. Paying some bills will come back.
Final comments from our panel of my conversation with the Ambachador.
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All right, folks, the final comments from our panel with
regards to my conversation with the Ambassador Eric, I'll start
with you. Yeah, thanks rolling. I think that was a
very important conversation for people to see. To see, Ambassador

(01:51:56):
Thomas Greenfield, I spent time as an EMMAS in South
Sudan in twenty nineteen, and what is on the ground
and what is being reported or what is barely reported
are two very very different things. When we think about
the countries that she mentioned, China, when we think about Russia,
when we think about France, which we know is notorious

(01:52:19):
and their abuse of the continent as a whole. What
we see when we go to the different countries and
how those countries, specifically South Sudan or where I was
Yay State River functionally where we had to fly into
a goat field and then be transported of course with
a security detail. People need to know that these countries

(01:52:40):
definitely have blood on their hands. Racy y'all new, y'all knew?
Oh yeah, I was just saying, I echo what Erica said.
It was a very important and substitutive conversation, and I
think it's really interesting to juxtapose her seriousness and her

(01:53:01):
sincerity with the other former UN ambassador that just announced
her presidential campaign that doesn't need to be named Take
Us Home, Brett. I was thoroughly disgusted and quite frankly,
anyone who takes anything coming out of the Federal government's
mouth when it comes to Africa or the Caribbean, including Haiti,

(01:53:22):
at face value, you should be embarrassed. That's everyone. Please
loft this up with all due respect to him. Basta
Thompson Greenfield. The United States was deeply involved in the
assassination of Moise. The people they've arrested are in Florida,
their US citizens, and one of them has said the
FAI was in on it from the beginning. Right now,
forty four countries in the Caribbean Caracom are meeting. They

(01:53:44):
are being pressured by the United States to call for
the invasion of Haiti again. The US occupied Haiti from
nineteen fifteen nineteen thirty four. They were involved in propping
up Papa Dot and Baby Dot and getting rid of Aristeed,
bringing him back and then ask to Clinton's about how
much money they made in that whole process. And then
when the UN invaded in twenty ten, the cholera outbreak,

(01:54:06):
kill people and send a whole lot of Haitians to
Brazil and all other places. That said, he ended up
in Mexico for Trump and then Biden to continue to
fight against them. You can't take that stuff at face value.
Let's be very clear. The president there there Ario Unri
Unri is a US plan. And when she says the
Haitian people are calling for intervention, that's a lot, please understand.

(01:54:30):
And when we talk about gangs ruling Haiti, John R. Clark,
you're saying some stories there are no good guys. Yes,
there's a lot of violence in Haiti. A great deal
of it is because of foreign intervention. And who leads
the pack, the damn United States of America. Justin Trudeau,
the Prime Minister of Canada, is at that meeting in
care Calm right now, and he's got the Canadian Navy
doing fact finding, getting ready to invade Haiti. And guess

(01:54:53):
who's trying to get him to do it. And Bastad
Thompson Greenfield is in the room trying to make sure
that the US can throw the rock and high at
its hand. Finally, the damn Dominican Republic ABA, not of
the president of the dr Do you know he called
for the intervention in Haiti as well, and after coming
to the US and meeting with who did he meet with? Oh? Yes,
the Vice President of the United States of America. Most

(01:55:14):
of the world has not picked the side in the
Russia Ukraine fight. If you watch mass media, they'll tell
y'all we're all standing. But that's like listening to what's
the man's malcolm nancing them. Please understand Africa, most of
those countries have not chosen a side. Why the Russians
have boots on the ground in place like Mali and
Burkina Fasso, trying to help the Africans get the French out.

(01:55:36):
But guess what, those Russian mercenaries aren't any better than
the damn French. And the Chinese, meanwhile, have poured so
much money into Africa that when they had that summit
she was talking about and brought all them damn Nigro
African leaders here to singing dance for a dollar. They
had all the companies signed up, and while they were there,
the Secretary of State blinking is forcing Angola focing West

(01:55:57):
Africans to sign private deals to give away strategic mental
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watch anybody black, white, or polka dot start talking about
how much Africa's in the heart of the United States,
Please understand black people. You're not saying but damn about
black people, whether you're born here or in Africa. The

(01:56:18):
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