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Today is Friday in Month seventeen, twenty twenty three. Coming
up on Roland Martin Unfiltered, streaming live on the Blackstar Network.
The Republican led North Carolina Supreme Court they have reheard
arguments from a redistision case the court ruled on in
December when Democrats were in the majority. If the state's
highest court reverses this decision, state legislators will determine the
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electoral districts, shifting the political power in North Carolina. I'll
talk to a North Carolina state representative about what this
will mean for the Tar Hills state. After years of
debate about reparations, one city is close to making it
a reality, but the San Francisco NAACP chaptor opposes the
proposed five million dollars suggestive reparation payments for the sentence
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of enslaved people. The co chair of the San Francisco
Chapter of the NAACP will be here to explain why
they want the city to reject this task force proposal.
As three more people face murder charges in the death
of a black man and police custody in Virginia, his
family views the security video of the incident that led
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to his death. They say their son was tortured before
he died being in crump. The family's attorney will be
here to give us the latest on that case and
our Education Matter segment. An organization uses books teach financial
literacy and gives out stocks. I'll talk to a global
Children's Facial Literacy Foundation co founder about how they are
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equipping kids with financial skills. Also, Lance Redditt, the actor
from The Wire and the John Wicks series, died at
the age of sixty. Will have that immemorium. Plus. Vice
President Kamala Harris speaks to the Howard University and basketball
team after their March Madness loss. Will have that for
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you as well. It is time to bring the funk.
I'm Roland Martin unfiltered on the Black Star Network. Let's go.
He's going whatever the miss, He's on it, whatever it is.
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I have told y'all on many occasions why state elections matter.
Twenty eighteen, Sherry Beasley runs a re election on the
North Carolina Supreme Court for Chief Justice. She loses by
four hundred votes. Had Democrats one, that would have had
a six to one majority on the State Supreme Court. Instead,
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they had a four to three majority because the Republican
who ran against her won her seat. The person who
and for his seat Republican one four to three. What
then happens in November twenty two, one of those races,
Democrat loses. Now the Democrats and now the Republicans of
a four to three majority of the Supreme Court. Why
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is that important? In December, with the Democrats control of
the State Supreme Court, they made two crucial rulings on
voting rights cases. Here we are four months later and
Republicans want to reheat now that they made a decision.
They made a decision. Now the Republicans want to rehear
the cases. So if anybody tells you there's no judicial
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activism on the side of Republicans, that is a hundred
percent lie. This is a perfect example of the North
Carolina Republicans rehearing cases that were just decided in December, y'all,
four months ago. Why is it important because the Republicans
in North Carolina, when the legislat nature have been passing
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laws to limit black volks from voting. Let me go
back two thousand and eight, President then Senator Obama wins
North Carolina by fourteen thousand, one hundred votes. It was
one of the highest turnout elections in North Carolina history.
Republicans said, oh, hell no, we can't have these black
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people voting like this here voter ID laws start closing
polling locations with the laws. What then happens? Numbers drop,
So they solidified power. More of Mondays is launched. They're
out there protesting, they start clawing back. They again get
control of the courts where the courts decide racial gerrymandering
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rule against voter ID laws. This is how Republicans wheel
power on the state Supreme Court. And so now they
decided we're going to now we hear the cases. Now
the also pending in the US Supreme Court More versus Harper,
which shot down the state's legislative drawn congressional districts and
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those maps for being too partisan. Again, Republicans want justices
to throw out that decision and allow the legislature to
redraw all three all three seats of the maps for
the next election cycle. Again, why is this? Because North
Carolina now actually has balance among the congressional districts. Republicans
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do not want that. Jennerals now North Carolina a Representative
Ambert Baker. Representative Baker, glad to have you here. This
has been a constant battle over the last fifteen years
in North Carolina as Republicans have used the state Supreme
Court to lock in legislative rulings, and they have hated
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when Democrats rule against them when they control the Supreme Court. Yes, again,
thank you Roland for always having me on to help
me keep people informed as to what is happening down
here in North Carolina. And as you said so many
times before, and it is certainly true, North Carolina is
the state to watch in terms of what the Republicans
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are doing. We're the litmus for the madness that they're
trying to spread across of the United States. And as
you said at the top of the hour, our state
constitution provides a clause that says that we should have
an opportunity to participate in free elections and that any
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maps that are drawn for Congress and for the State
House and Senate should be drawn in such a way
that it allows our voters to participate in the process.
And the way that the maps have been originally drawn
did not do that. So the Germander maps that they
presented and tried to course was the reason that they
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lost the initial case. And so as you said, these
maps are not even three months old, that decision is
not three months old, and no sooner that they got
the control of the Senate and we are holding the
House by one seat, they initially filed for these maps
to be thrown out and to be given an opportunity
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to redraw them. And it is also critical to know
is that concerning the maps, although we have a democratic governor,
the governor cannot veto the maps. So they are using
the political kind of process to do this, and they're
they're doing it through the Supreme Court. The other piece
to to mention is that one of the seated Supreme
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Court justices is the son of the Senate pro tem.
So essentially you have a father and son that are
in control of two thirds of our branches, the Judiciary
and the Senate. On the legislative side, I warned people
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in fact, when Democrats took control of the State Supreme Court,
I think it was in sixteen, these Republicans were so
pissed off they literally wanted to strip the State Supreme
Court of its power and give it to the lower court.
That's how dashurally they were trying to use the power.
Correct And so now that they have control of the
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Supreme Court, and again Chief Justice Knuby, who replaced then
Chief Justice Beasley, is a non Republican. Again, Supreme Court
Justice Phil Burger Junior is the son of Phil Philburger,
our Senate pro tem, And so I think that they
reversed their tactic because they knew that that didn't work.
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So the one thing about them is that they're assistant
and trying to push forth their agenda. And it took
the Supreme Court fifty years to overturn rov way. We're
talking about lightning speed in terms of trying to overturn
their own decision as well as it pertains to these maps,
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Um so um, how do y'all battle this? Because obviously
it's now in the hands of the State Supreme Court.
So we we are waiting for the decision. UM. We
expect that we should hear hear their decision soon. UM.
And back to your point about elections having consequences, UM,
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we pretty much have our hands tied. We again, we
cannot um veto this decision. The governor has no control
over this and right now we don't have We don't
have control of the Senate. That's the Senates and supermajority,
and we are barely holding on. It is a one
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vote margin in the House to be able to stop
some additional bad bills. So I will say this that
the maps the is the big prize. But you need
to note that coming behind those maps are the voter
id laws that we were able to uphold, the governor's
veto on um the abortion rights issue in the state.
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All of these bills are still in the queue. The
governor just veto today the riot bill. So there are
there are a number of bills that are going to
come back through because they have the power, and what
we're afraid of is that those bills will be buried
in the budget. Um. They were able were able to
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pass Medicaid expansion and so we passed that outright, But
I do think that buried in the budget will be
many of these bills that will be companion bills that
will continue to assaults on our voters, on our black people,
and on this continue to disenfranchise us as a group
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of people. Last question for you, when are there any
legislative elections this year? Or are they in twenty twenty four?
They are in twenty twenty four, and so we foul
in December, and so we don't have any seats that
will be be um contested in twenty twenty three. And
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what is how many seats the new Republicans control the
Senate on the Senate side that we have sixty seats
over there and it's twenty nine Democrats, so forty one seats. Wow,
wow forty so forty one seats. And are all of
those seats up in twenty twenty four? They are? We
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run every two years, so so everybody runs. Everybody runs,
So you in twenty twenty four, all one hundred and
eighty seats will be um contested. We every two years,
so y'all have a one seat majority of the Democratic side. Uh,
and they have um they So what there are sixty
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seats in the in the state Senate. It is got you,
so twenty nine were Democrats? Correct? Got it? Okay, one
hundred and we have one hundred and twenty seats in
the House side and we only have forty nine votes. Wow,
all right then, Baker, we appreciate it. Thank you a lot.
Thank you, and Brolin, thank you for for wearing your
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Howard t shirt. Well, I was, you know again, I was.
I was looking for some Texas Southern gear. Runs I
didn't have any. There were the two HBCU teams that
made the NC double a tournament tissue. So what's the
state made it? What's the Salem state made it as well?
Sit again, Winston Salem State made it as well. Okay, Well,
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I do have some win Stated state gear, so ill
them on Monday. I don't have any t issue right
to TSU that so I said I'd wear the Howard
stuff today even though they lost the game. But we'll
appreciate it. Thank you, sir, all right, appreciate it. Thanks
a lot. All right, folks, going to break, We'll talk
more about this South Carolina issue. We come back right here.
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what's up? This is your boy Earthquakes. Hi, I'm Chailey Rose,
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and you're watching Roland Martin unfiltered. Um don't um, don't
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um don't um um don't um don't um don't um,
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don't um, don't um, don't um a panel, Matt Manning said,
rights attorney out of Texas. Also, Michael M. Hunt help
hosts the Africition Network show of the Truck. Let have
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both of you here, madam. I'll start with you. I've
walked through this repeatedly, and this is what I'm trying
to get people understand. And and let me just go
ahead and be clear. I had some dude. I had
some dude on Twitter. Let me find his name. Yeah,
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I'm gonna let him name check him because he said
really one of the stupidest comments. And I keep telling
y'all why you can't listen. So some dude named Carrera, Harris,
Carrera Harris. Okay, and so this is what let me
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go here and see if I can. I gotta show
y'all this here, because this is a perfect example or
what I keep telling y'all about these simple simons who
don't know nothing about politics, and it really gets on
my nerves. They don't know nothing about politics, but they
love saying dumb stuff where they somehow think they're smart.
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So this is what he tweeted right here. Used to
watch your show all the time, brother, And while I
disagree with doctor Umar's incendiary language about you, the reason
I personally stopped watching was because it did seem like
you had an agenda behind your content. And I said, yeah,
I do have an agenda. I said, my agenda black people.
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And so he then says, hold up, let me pull
us up. He then says, the agenda is always in
lockstep with the Democrat Party's agenda. And I think we
all we can all see that neither party really has
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a quote real agenda for our community, respectfully, brother, But
I see this is the part where you are trying
to shame or engage in ad hominem right, And then
other people started commenting, See what I just explained to
you is a perfect example where I've said to people, hey,
somebody's gonna win. It's gonna be unless like an order
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in Washington State, in California where they change it with
a top two vote getters or go on to the
general election. Races are gonna come down to a Democrat
or Republican. And in the case of North Carolina, let's
be real clear when it comes to who wants to
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keep black people from voting, it is the Republican party.
A three panel federal judge and concluded there was a
there was a laser like precision in the targeting of
black voters by North Carolina Republicans. So for all your people,
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roller but you shilling for the Democrats, for all y'all
who listened to all these so called new black media fools,
let me show you again right now. In North Carolina,
Republicans want to keep black people from voting. So when
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they got control of the legislature, they passed laws against
black people. When they got pissed when Democrats, let me
say it again for all you simple signings. When the
Democrats took over the state Supreme Court, they ruled against
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racial jar and brandon, They rule against voter I D.
They rule against all of the things Republicans wanted to
do who ruled for them Democrats. Now, if I have
a choice, Matt between Republican Democrat anti Black standing with
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black voters, this ain't hard to figure out as to
which one I would rather see in power. And then
if they are in power, I can now put pressure
on them to get what I want when I know
for a fact these people on the right don't want
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to do anything for black people. That's true. Not only
is that true, they're not hiding that fact. I mean,
any decision that you have, or any opinion that you
have that is on the side of the Democrats here
is really less on the side of the Democrats and
more on the side of democracy. The idea that a
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judge a panel rather a court would make a decision
and then when the balance of power changes, we're now
rehearing that decision to make a new decision that's more
aligned with our political party is abhorrant and that is
not how it works. And that's not even trying to
thinly veil your agenda through the Republicans. That's making it clear.
It's an all out of assault on rights and on
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democracy and on participation in the democracy. So as much
as people want to make it a binary thing, like
you're just out for democrats, it's out for democracy because
where we are is talking about allowing the state legislatures to,
you know, right these or draw these Jerrymager districts and
then not even allow a state supreme court to have
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oversight on a focused reading of the constitution. I mean,
if you allow that, then you're allowing places like Texas
and North Carolina and Florida and the most insane jurisdictions
around the country to just decide to implement laws and
or implement districts that completely write out people, which is
exactly what North Carolina is trying to do. And the
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irony of all of this is the founders, James Madison
and some of the others were completely against state legislatures
having this much hour because they didn't trust that they
were working the national interest. And this is obviously the case,
not as it relates to the national interest, but as
it relates to the participation of everybody in the democracy.
They are clearly trying to cut out black people, and
I don't know how anybody can miss that, because they're
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very obviously making that clear. And here's the thing that
I don't understand Michael, and again and again for all
these these simple signments. I'm going to breakfast club. He's
shilling for the Democrats. All he wants to vote for Democrats.
It's sitting in front of you. The Republican Party in
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North Carolina, in Georgia, in Florida, in Alabama, in Mississippi,
in Louisiana, in Texas, in Arkansas, in South Carolina, in Iowa,
in Michigan, in Pennsylvania, in New York State. I can
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go on and on and on. They are virally and
tie Democrat voting. They are in Wisconsin. They want they
want to ban valid drop boxes because too many of
us voted. They want to voting locations on college campuses
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because young people, whether they are Black, white, Latino, voted
Democrat and Republican. They want to sit here, shut down
polling locations. They want to move polling locations to small,
small places with small lots or what they want to do.
Who is put voting locations in police stations to intimidate people.
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It was only it was Dorondy Sanders and Republican Party
who arrested black people who were formerly incarcerated wrongfully for
trying to vote. Now, I'm just trying to understand if
I am presenting undeniable facts and then all these fools, yella, yeah,
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they ain't gonna do nothing for us. They're gonna do
nothing for us. We know for a fact who ain't
doing shit for us. But I'm supposed to sit here
and go both of them ain't nothing, So therefore don't vote. Yeah, Roland,
it's ridiculous. And I deal with some of those people too,
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So one thing I don't do is argue with people
who have no clue what they're talking about. And when
I see people making comments like that, chilling for the Democrats, etc.
This is stuff they got from black misinformation social media pemps.
These are talking points they got from them. They don't
study policy. This is why they can't explain the voter
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suppression tactics. This is why they can't explain what Republicans
are doing. When you talk about the voter suppression tactics.
When when we talk about the four hundred plus bills
that Republicans have introduced in state legislatures, Okay, those bills
are largely coming from Heritage Action for America. Heritage Action
for America is the sister organization to the Heritage Foundation.
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They crafted. It was the Heritage Action for America who
crafted Georgia's SB two O one bill. Okay, send a
bill two O one, which really kicked off this whole
voter suppression thing. And then after Joe Biden Comma Harris
one and running on the big lie, and then you
see copies of these bills in various states legis, in
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various state legislatures. This is a very well funded initiative.
If you go back and look at Shelby Connie versus
Holder twenty thirteen US Supreme Court case with guts section
for the Voting Rights Act. Right after that, within twenty
four hours of that US Supreme Court case taking place
of the decision taking place, you had states passing new
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voter restriction laws, which helped Trump win in twenty sixteen
because there were eight hundred and sixty eight fewer polling
places in twenty sixteen, and many of those polling places
were shut down in areas that have high African American
and Latino population. So what happens is now you have
some people who mean well, but they're listening to dumb
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asses who don't mean well, and they don't know the difference.
I encourage people to watch this show, but go do
the research. Proper documentation ends all conversation. This is why
I present the evidence. I don't spend a lot of
time argument with people that don't know what they're talking about.
Pastor Shannon, Right, Look, you're a Republican, you run as
a Republican, and what was happening here in North Carolina?
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To me, again, it's shameful. And what you have here
is I mean literally, the North Carolina State Supreme Court
just ruled in December Republicans get control of the court.
They are rehearing cases that were just decided. If that
ain't a partisan bent, what the hell is? Clearly it's
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a partisan bent. But you know, here's the thing. Political
parties are to do just that promote the interest of
the parties, not necessarily the policies that best benefit the people.
And there's a difference between those two when you see
things like that happening. Obviously it's a political paragraph. I
get that. I see it. That's happening everywhere. But until people,
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as a gentleman said, actually educate themselves on the issues,
on the laws and on policies and what benefits them,
and what doesn't We're going to continue to see things
like this. But in the case that was happening there
in North Carolina, here's my problem. My problem is these
people are specifically they are specifically targeting black people. Federal
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judges ruled they were targeting black people. They changed the
early voting rules in North Carolina after determining that seventy
percent of black people voted early voting North Carolina. So
in republican So Republican North Carolina are undeniable. They are
targeting black people. That to me is shameful and despicable.
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I would agree. I think any party any place where
you actually target people to say that the race that
folks shed blood, sweat and tears to get to be
able to vote, where you're going to try and play
some gamesmanship to be able to take that right away,
is wrong, period. And they're mad because black people are
turned out. They deal. They are mad because black people
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turned out in massive numbers for Obama in two thousand
and eight, and they may clear winna let that happen again.
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you're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered. U u um um um
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um u um um um um um um u um
um um um um um um. The City of San
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Francisco set up a task force to examine the issue
of reparations. The task force came back and said they
calculated that the city San Francisco should provide payments of
about five million dollars to African Americans who live in
San Francisco. They laid out a criteria as to who
should qualify for that well. The San Francisco NAACP then
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put out a statement where they said they actually rejected
this particularly committee's recommendation, arguing that the money should be
dispersed by investments and opportunities to the black community, but
not direct cash payments. Of the San Francisco Border Supervisors
embraced the one hundred and eleven recommendations from the city
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appointed Reparations Committee, including lumps some payments of five million
dollars to every ledge with a black citizen, guaranteed income
of ninety seven thousand per year for two hundred and
fifty years, eliminating a personal debt and tax Burtons and
the homes for just one dollar. The San Francisco Reparations
Committee's final report, it's due on July. First, joining us
now is the president of the NAACP chapter there also
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a member of the San Francisco Reparations Task Force, Reverend
doctor Amos Brown. Not glad to have you on the show.
So first, so first, the first, Pastor Brown, you have
been a longtime supporter of reparations. Correct, Yes, I have,
and I'm vice chair of the State Reparations. So so
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you're a member of the San Francisco Task Force Committee
and the vice chair of the State Committee has been
examining this as well. A lot a lot of people
have been blasting you and the chapter for this particular statement, saying,
how dare you oppose the money going direct as opposed
the five areas that you'll outlined. Why I have y'all
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take Why has the chapter taken the position to pose
the committee's recommendation of direct payments as opposed to the
five areas y'all laid out. Let me give you some
clar okay and some truth. Branch Paska first of all,
has the brown hold on you broke up there, so
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start your comment over again, go ahead, and would be
a truth teller. Is not against cast papers at all,
but we're against being put in a trick, bad and
set up for failure. And those members of the Board
of Supervisors gave lip service to the concept, the idea
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of narrations. But beginning with the chair, he's the one
who said no cash and the chair person all the
finance commit an Asian lady miss chand said we have
a deficit in the city, and we get out of
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the point brother I'm making it is that we must
not let our adversaries, whoever they may be, set us
up for another study, another to be put on a
chef and to collect us. We must have action and
action now we believe in cash plus it's not either all.
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So when you say they're seting the setup these two
wings for Bernie. So when you say there's a setup
going on here, are you saying that what has happened
is even a lot of people, a lot of commenting
from people on this very issue. And so there are
people who have been opposing direct payments, they've been attacking.
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Then they said, oh, this is gonna bankrupt individuals in
San Francisco things. So you believe that if that is,
if that is how it set up, it's guaranteed never
to pass. Is that what you're saying? They did not
on Tuesday night vote at all. This thing has been
(38:21):
delayed until October, and I feel that we should not
be delayed doing the right thing, doctor Kane said. The
time is always right to do right. They could have
easily said we support cash payments to and the infinite
(38:42):
we are facing deficit, we can establish a payout plan,
but they did not. And the mistake of the Champ
person he meant well, but he said to National Public
Radio that there was no math formula for this five
(39:02):
million dollars. It was just something that was taken out
of thin air that was put into the document, and
that was unfortunate. But then the journal public began to
focus on the five million with no plan. And even
if we had a problem with the deficit, somebody should
have said, we can't get from the private sector moneies
(39:26):
to establish a reparation. Find we have billionaires in San
Francisco for capital and any major city in the United
States according to a recent study. So I just feel
and my constituent base Field, we must be delibered and
(39:49):
we must move to bring about redress and restoration. So
black people then, all right, so so so doctor Brown.
So here's the deal. God's gonna my iPad. This is
the press release that was sent out, and this is
where I think there's confusion. The press release says the
(40:11):
San Francisco NAACP today called upon the Border Supervisors to
reject a one time to reject a one time five
million dollars reparations payment to blacks, but instead call upon
the city to make investments in five key areas to
atone for a history of racism, discrimination and mistreatment. Now
(40:34):
you said and you and it lays out in here
what those five are, and that is, uh, invest in education,
economic empowerment, housing, healthcare, and feel more Heritage center. Now
you said that you believe in payments and this so
again okay, so, but but but the statement doesn't address payments,
(41:00):
and so people people assumed that was that was that
was a misbread, that that was a mistress, that was
that line was enough to die, That was a mispread.
But the basic position, but I'm saying, brother rolling, is
we support We definitely support payment, but you got to
have a plan. But hold type one second, Hold one
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remember I hold one second. I've got to go to
a break uh, because I gotta come back because you
said it was a misprint. The problem is most people
have ran with this press release and they are saying,
you don't support payments. But so let's go to a
break uh. And it's also for let's let's get a
signal fixed because you're going in and out, so we
want to make sure that that's straight. Will come back right,
(41:42):
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Why he Vin And you're watching Rollo Martin unfiltered? All right,
welcome back, roller mart unfiltered. So so so, Pastor Brown,
I just want to be clear, go back to my iPad.
The statement that was released. The headline says San Francisco
(44:43):
NAACP rejects five million dollars reparations payment to blacks, and
then it says it in this upsode. You're you're saying
that this statement that was released publicly, this statement is wrong.
That's right. So the San Francisco NAACP supports direct payments
(45:06):
plus investments to the black communities, right and and in
the one hundred plus recommendations, so I'm the same thing
are listed where we introduced in twenty nineteen. You see
opera introduce the idea of reparations to this community on
(45:34):
the thirtieth of Juni, twenty nineteen National Convention in Detroit, Michigan.
So let that be no mistake about it. We spoiled
cash plus and so the state. So you support the
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five million, but you also to individual African Americans, but
you also want further investment in black institutions. Even the
five million is not enough for the hell, the horror
and the hardship of our people. You can't put a
(46:20):
dollar sign on the oppression, enslavement, and downright insult and
assaultio to our humanity. So that was a mistake that
was made there regarding opposition. And I'm selling the l
stream that we cash payment plus subsistent programs. That's what
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we must have to turn things around for African Americans.
This city, the meeting income for blacks in this town
is thirty thousand dollars a year, for whites one hundred
and ten thousand Adnos, and Asians it's between temnified and
eighty thousand dollars a year. We are the worst love
(47:13):
when it comes to education and achievement in the school district.
We still have the challenge of not being able to
get jobs and our fair share of contracts from the
public and private lectures. Even with all the infrastructure work
that's down going on in the city, you don't see
life handling. That's heavy equipment. It used to have us
(47:38):
holding up signs to direct the track, but now you
don't even see those jobs. We must understand that we've
got to porched things holistically, strategically, wisely, and not be
cheapened when it comes to this issue of reparations. All right,
(48:01):
So so here, So the next question, do you believe
that the San Francisco City Council is going to support
five million dollars cash payment? From what they said on
Tuesday night? And I sat there until nine thirty, almost
(48:26):
down to the nose, gave these yells flower statements about
pain and what we deserved. But they said we're not
sure about cash papers. And in addition to that, one
(48:47):
of the members, to be exact, mister daw said, the
newest man on that board, this up far a vote
before the citizens. So that kind of conversation chicken my child.
(49:12):
So so when is this So when is this vote
supposed to take place? It is really they put it
off Roland until October, okay, and even the budget of
the of the city will be adopted at the end
(49:32):
of this June. So the mindest game had to come
from somewhere, and this reason why they should be right now.
So our people will not be misled. They will not
be set up assuming that a check is going to
be cut for them and cause us to be created
(49:53):
and sad. Again, the disappointment, that's what our basic concern is.
And it was unfortunate that this matter went out five
million dollars. The chat said that was no mathematically and
also to say this is just a figure that that
(50:14):
wasn't throwing out of there. Okay, all right, Uh, that's
what maybe all right, Robert not the Brown. Uh, we
appreciate you joining us. I wish we had a better
connect with you. It was difficult, but we got the
gist of what you said. We appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Um, Micha,
(50:41):
I'm gonna start with you, um this first of all,
this this is going exactly like we've always said it
was going to go. At the moment you began to
put numbers out there, you're going to the nd face resistance. Um.
This also was a big screw up bout the same SCHOOLCP.
So you put a statement, goes out saying they oppose
(51:04):
direct payments. It's in the headline. Everybody runs with it.
They're blasted. The NAACP, Reverend Brown has to come out
and say no, that was a mistake. And so the
champion is to be reissuing the state or something along
those lines, because this is what people believe. Yeah, So
first of all, Roland, you know, we talked about the
(51:26):
San Francisco reparations task for us yesterday on for Roji
Muhammad showed the culture right here on your network, the
Black Star Media Network, and I've been following what's going
on with California and San Francis school reparations. There will
over one hundred recommendations that were given at this meeting
(51:46):
that just took place on Tuesday. What's happened, and there's
been a lot of reparations activists as well as doctor
William Barretty who've been critical of this five million dollars
number because it's taken the first of all, it's on
a realistic it's totally unrealistic. San Francisco is dealing with
a seven hundred and twenty eight million dollar budget deficit
(52:07):
over the next two years, okay, five million dollars per
and it's about fifty thousand African Americans in San Francisco.
From what I understand, it's going to be yet to
be at least eighteen or eighteen years or older and
meet some other criteria. And then it's also important to
understand in the state of California, race based policies are
illegal in the in the state of California. This is
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why the California Reparations Task Force, which doctor Amos Brown
also sits on, this is why they're going to distribute
whatever they come up with based upon lineage as opposed
to race, because they want to make sure it doesn't
get overturned in court. Also, it's important to understand when
you study history California, California does not have a history
of slavery. They do have a rampid history of racism,
(52:50):
housing discrimination, redlining, segregation, vote suppression, etc. So you know,
just very quickly, Doctor William Darety, in this article from
The Washington Post said calling for five million dollars payout
by a local government undercuts the credibility of the reparation's effort.
So um. But but here's the deal, though, people that
have people who disagree with arity. So I mean, and
(53:12):
that's they can And that's the point. You've got people
who believe in it should be direct payments, others who
believe in lineage base and and that's a deal. You've
got different, different factions all operating at one time. We need,
we need comprehensive reparations to the root concept. But here's
(53:34):
a deal. There are some people who still believe in
comprehensive but also individual payments. I'm not against individual payments.
What I'm saying is is individual payments need to be realistic.
Thinking that they're gonna give five million dollars to every
black person who's eighteen years or older in San Francisco
is totally unrealistic. That ain't happening. And what happens is
(53:56):
it distracts from other recommendations that are realistic, that could
be attainable, and people are just focused on the five
million dollars and when they don't get it, then they
just want a lot of them just want to throw
up their hands. Okay, So we really have to This
is why we really have to understand history, but also
understand law and really how to get something that is
(54:19):
really realistic and achievable and make sure it does not
get overturned in the court because they're going to foul
lawsuits to block this, just like the lawsuits filed when
it comes to student loan forgiveness in President Joe Biden's
executive Order. And we want to make sure that we're
on strong legal footing so whatever gets passed at the
city level doesn't get overturned in the courts. All right,
(54:41):
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(57:20):
the San Francisco NAACP puts out a statement saying that
they oppose direct payments of five million dollars to San
Francisco residence for reparations. Reverend Actor Amos Brown just came
on our show. He's on that task force in San Francisco,
vice chair the California Task Force. He says that was
an error, that was not the case. They support cast payments. Plus,
(57:42):
this was all the sort of back and forth. City
council is gonna actually beg a determination about this possibly
in October. M Shannon, your thoughts again. I mean, so
here we are where this committee comes up with a number.
Now everybody's talking about it's unrealistic, Others to say five million,
(58:03):
it's not enough money. So your thoughts about this whole
reparation's battle there in San Francisco, even with inflation, when
five anchors in a mule bene cheaper. I mean, had
had things been done correctly way back back back, we
wouldn't still be having this argument today, right, But the
round it wasn't. It wasn't done correctly. So this is
(58:25):
where we are now. No, and I get that, But
in terms of the five million dollars, if it was
indeed an arbitrary number, which unless it's a formula out
there it obviously was, there was never any intention on
doing anything with it. If you pick a number without
a formula and just put it out there, it's because
you have no intention on giving a dang blust a
dime on any part of this. So to have an
(58:46):
argument about whether it should be direct payment or what
should be this or should be that, you need to
be looking at was it ever real to begin with?
And I don't believe it was. I see that there
have been several different proposals. I see that there's some
folks that want to direct payments, some folks to talk
about Lenny, and some folks talk about infrastructural investment to picks,
education and all those things. But all of those things
(59:08):
should have been going on to begin with. The fact
that we are still in a place of having these
conversations mean there is no real interest by the folks
that have the ability to make the difference to actually
do so. Matt, Yeah, I mean I echo some of
those sentiments. I don't think it was ever really going
to happen. But the bigger question here is, you know,
(59:31):
reparation should be reparative, right, So a one time payment
I don't think is is good. Or I think one
time payment is good, but I don't think that should
be the end all be all. So I like the
idea of cash plus, but beyond that, I like the
idea of there being some actual institutional changes, which sounds
like what THEACP is advocating for. But what I found
(59:51):
to be a big slap in the face here is that,
you know, the city of San Francisco, like Michael was saying,
has a each deficit, but it doesn't make sense to
me that that's also of the place where you have
the most billionaires, and they don't have a way to
figure out one a better formula, in two a more
workable way to do it. And I don't anticipate that
there would be necessarily private investment. But the bigger issue
(01:00:12):
with me for reparations overall is that you know, when
the government wants to do something, it figures out how
to do it, i e. Bailing out banks, But when
it comes to a longstanding debt ie reparations, we always
get mired and how are we going to do it
and the legal issues and all of that, when the
basics of it morality from a morality standpoint is that
this is something that should have long ago have been
(01:00:33):
done and it should be something that should be a
primary concern. So I don't think they have any real
intention of paying people five million dollars, but they should
have an intention of finding a way to balance the scales,
particularly with such a great income disparity there. I mean
for it to be thirty thousand for Black families and
north of eighty thousand for Latino and Asian families, that
alone is a great disparity, and it seems like something
(01:00:55):
they should be a little more incisive and addressing. All right, folks,
I talk about the issue of clean energy, jobs and
the environment. Of course, many clean energy companies are talking
about again clean energy. A lot of people can't even
define what that is. But the question is who's also
getting higher, what companies are getting higher? African America is
(01:01:17):
being left out of this multi billion dollar economy. Joining
us down from New York is the founder of Climate
Critical Earth, organization that helps leaders strategically find solutions to
stop the climate crisis. Tamatos O, Lawfla and Tarma. Glad
to have you here so again on this point about
when we say clean energy. First of all, what the
(01:01:40):
hell is that define that clean energy is energy that
doesn't kill you. I wish I could make it more
complicated than that, because I've heard clean coal if it
gives you, if it gives you lung cancer, if it
puts your family in the hospital, if it makes it
likely that you'll get a chronic disease, it is not
(01:02:00):
clean energy. If it keeps you from being able to
catch fish because of jack's up the water, or electrocuse
of wildlife need, it's not clean. If communities are gainst
it because it's mostly just burning trash. It's not clean energy.
So clean has to be redefined. I mean things that yes,
provide you power, but also save you money and don't
put you in the hospital. Now we're seeing billions of
(01:02:23):
dollars being spent all across this country, and we are
hearing everyone talk about again clean energy job. But the
question is are we as African Americans, are we benefiting
or we being left out like we historically have anytime
you had any other major change in the economy. Well,
I hate to say something nuanced so early in the evening,
(01:02:45):
but the answer is not. We don't know yet. So
there are jobs and clean electric vehicles. There are jobs
in technology. Their jobs in manufacturing, whether that's putting up
all this new infrastructure, making sure people have electric cars,
making sure the batter these get taken out in ways
get made in from ways that don't involve mining. There
are lots of jobs to be had. The money hasn't
(01:03:06):
hit the street yet, So whether or not we get
the contracts is about whether we are set up for
the infrastructure, whether we get the job at the other
end of it about whether we've been training in the
right places. Whether we're in line to get those dollars
and training, and whether or not we actually receive them.
All right, So in terms of our capacity, have those
(01:03:26):
companies being created, and who is out there advocating on
their behalf to make sure that we don't get left out.
I look at what happened with the whole you know
marijuana game, you know, multi billion dollars and guess what
we were the ones who went to jail. We couldn't
get dispensaries. Yeah, we paid the price that got locked
(01:03:47):
out of the two or three meetings in the Ferry
statehouses where they decided who is going to get it.
So we do have a lot of lessons to learn.
So as the Inflation Reduction Act, the IIJA and all
these other bills put money onto the street, some of
them do have carve outs. And so whether we are
consumers who could reap the benefits for less money, or
(01:04:07):
folks who are put into the jobs which are vocational jobs.
Jobs you don't need more than a four year high
school education to be able to get an installation in
generation and transmission and get into contracts and being a
small business owner who hires other people to do these things,
or to make sure people don't come into your community
and create jobs while you are without them. Those are
(01:04:28):
things that we're going to have to fight for as
this federal money, which is largely ungoverned, ends up in
the hand of our governors, our mayors, our local officials. Questions,
are we going to be there at a demand that
the forty percent the federal government says it wants to
see from this money and things like justice forty actually
make it to our hands. So we have multiple jobs
to do. Yes, we've argued for the money. Now it's
(01:04:51):
time to make sure that it lands in our bank accounts,
literally in our banks. I mean, it's been a rough
week to talk about it, but that's where we are.
Questions from our panel matchup first. Yeah, so my question
is I know that there are a lot of times
tax credits for consumers who purchase let's say, electric vehicles.
Are there any kind of tax credits for people who
are actually employed in clean jobs or tax credits for
(01:05:13):
employers to create clean jobs to incentivize people taking them. Yes,
So the tax credits you're talking about include jumpstart tax
credits for new businesses that will help board workers afford
the different things we're talking about. It's not just heat
pumps and wind and water and solar. We are actually
talking about being incentivized so that the money that's moving,
(01:05:36):
most of the money that's in the Inflation Reduction Act
for better o wors that has to go to black
and brown communities who all the methodology block grants will
be spent. This three billion dollars coming out of every
part of the federal government. So whether we're talking about
three billion dollars for jobs, we're talking about three billion
dollars for neighborhood access, three billion dollars for grants to
(01:05:56):
reduce air pollution at ports, three billion dollars for heavy
duty vehicles, three billion dollars for equity and environmental justice grants.
We are the people who make up that work. So
if it doesn't hit us, it's not doing what it's
supposed to do. So, yes, there is money. There isn't
nearly enough, but there's more than what we've been on
the table if we didn't get into this moment, Shannon,
(01:06:19):
I hear what you're talking about. In terms of a
lot of this work folks will be able to do
with vocational training. But when you look at being able
to hire black and brown businesses, specifically in our urban
areas where we need more energy options. We got a
lot of broken public school systems. Is there any talk
or work about actually changing curriculum, actually improving the public
(01:06:42):
education so that if a company decides to come to Baltimore,
let's say that there is actually a curriculum in the
school system to be able to get these children work ready,
to be able to work in clean energy, to actually
qualify for the jobs that are going to be coming.
I wish that was someone else's job to decide. Those
of us who live in community are the right, exact
right people to ask these questions. The answer the curriculum
(01:07:05):
happens at your school board meeting. So whether or not
the kids are being trained for jobs that exist or
jobs that are about to exist, there's a question of
whether or not you are knocking doors talking to your
principle in the Department of Education at your local community
space and talking to them about the fact that the
high school education has to lead to a job a
kid who actually wouldn't get. So it's not up to
(01:07:25):
someone else that's actually on us. Let's see here, Michael
hey Tamara get to see you again. We both spoke
last year at the Midwest Building Decomminization pretty summit. So okay,
talk about talk about African American owned businesses getting contracts
(01:07:51):
when it comes to green energy things of this nature, Okay,
because that oftentimes it's something that's left out of the equation. Yeah.
So the three billion dollars for environmental and climate justice
black grants, Black businesses are in the best possible position
to get that money because it's about community led projects
and disadvantaged communities, which are very fancy ways to talk
about us. Right, So flagging for all the reasons that
(01:08:14):
in the last cement you were talking about avoiding using
the magic words, these are dollars that are earmarked for
our use. The three billion dollars in neighborhood access and
equity grants is about transportation access. There are no communities
in the history of America other than indigenous, our indigenous siblings,
who have ever been involved in more transportation related harms
(01:08:34):
than anyone else. So we are at the front of
the line. The question is do we have enough businesses
to be able to absorb it. The answers yes, are
we going to be in the middle of the conversation
where making sure other folks don't swoop in borrow our
cousins and uncle's brothers instances for a commercial and then
take away the money from our communities also up to us.
(01:08:55):
All right then, okay, So folks want to get more
information about this reaching your organization, where do they go?
Climate critical dot earth, so instead of dot com or
dot du you can find us. We do a lot
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a lot. All right, folks, gotta go to break, we
come back. Ben Crump talks to this hangous case out
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We approach Trump, Mark storms to the US capital. We're
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who simply cannot tolerate black folkst voting. I think what
we're seeing is the inevitable result of violent denials. This
is part of American history. Every time the people of
color and meta progress, whether real or symbolic, there has
been the Carol Anderson at every university calls white rage
as a backlash is the right of the proud boys
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Was Up? I'm doctor Ricky Doling, the Quiet Master al
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Ivo was four years old when we came to the
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United States. Ivo went to kindergarten here at in the
United States, proceeded to Tackle Who Elementary School and Freeman
High School, and then went on to school college in California.
Iva is as American as apple pie. This is what
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he knows. This is home for him. And when you're home,
you are in a community. We live in a community.
We have friends. This young man you see here had
a big hut. IV was the guy that his classmates
(01:13:08):
drew to when they needed someone to talk to. He
was the listener. My son was tortured. To put it right,
I saw the torture. There is no way that Henrycock
County sheriff deputies were on him. Seven people, seven officers
(01:13:33):
on one man. And all this started when my son
went to hospital on the third and that evening he
was taken to jail, whiz from the back of the
jail into the hospital. Those three days at Henrycock County
Jail while horror you heard his bomb. They described what happened,
(01:13:59):
folks are he was a handcuffed shackle, pined to the
ground by deputies uh and was suffocated. So far, ten
people have been charged with second degree murder in his death,
including seven Henrico County Sheriff's deputies uh in three hospital
employees joining us right now from New York has been
been UH glad to have you. This is just, I mean, unbelievable.
(01:14:25):
UM and what the mother described is just crazy. First
of all, why why was he why was he actually admitted?
And how long? How what had happened to cause him
to be admitted to this mental hospital? Yeah, in rolland
I would let you that from the oddset. I'm in
the car in New York City and I'm with the
parents of Tyree Nichols sitting in the background of the car,
(01:14:49):
and we were talking about IVO and Richmond, Virginia killed
and the jail there and in Rayco County, and we
also today were in Memphis, Tennessee talking about Gershaw Freeman
killed and Shelby County Detention Center. Both of them were
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having mental health crisis and they were in the jail
and both of them were naked, both of them needed
a help in hand, and both of them ended up
with a death sentence. The video we saw in Richmond, Virginia,
my investigator Kareem and I the family was just horrific
(01:15:35):
because Roland Martin, if ever police officers should know not
to put their knee on anybody's neck. It's after George Floyd.
But you see in this video where they were I
guess about fifteen Rieff's deputies and hospital personnel. And there
(01:15:59):
he is hand cuff, he has leg iron on, he's
faced down, and so you scratch your head because it
bothers your mind. Why they felt the need to use
such excessive force on him by putting the weight of
those seven officers on him with a knee on the
neck for over eleven minutes. Roland Martin and as the
(01:16:22):
and charging those officers with second degree murder. That they
literally smothered him to death. So and this took place
exactly when this took place on March sixth, about a
week ago, and we saw the video and the prosecutor
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is very similar to Tyree Nichols. Let the family see
the video first, the videos, I should say, and then
the federal authorities are gonna, I guess, watch the video
and then she's gonna make the termination. The city is
going to make the determination when they're going to release
the videos. Wow, this is again just just really just unbelievable.
(01:17:10):
And again it goes to show you what happens to
African Americans, whether the police custody, whether they're in jails,
or whether they're in mental hospitals. Exactly, Roland. And you
know how many more of these videos do we have
to see before we can get this George Floyd Justice
and Police and a bill passed. You know, my heartest head,
as I'm sitting here with Rovine Wales and Rodney Wales
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in this car thinking about why do their son have
to be a sacrifice to hopefully get this legislation passed.
Now we have Ivo Antino, he died enrichment on video.
We're gonna see that we saw the video in Judge
and Freeman in Memphis just today. How many more videos
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do we have to show the American government before they
know and proudly recognize we have a problem with policing
in America. Indeed, indeed Ben Crump sort of appreciated man.
Thanks a lot, God bless wrong. We give our bet
to Tyree Nichols family. Thanks a lot, Thank you. Um Shannon,
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it is. I mean, these things, it's over and over
and over again. And when you hear, when you hear um,
when you hear a lot of these Republican legislators who say, oh,
we don't have systemic racism, we don't have systemic bias.
I mean, these are just these are just things that
actually just happen, but they just keep happening to black people.
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It just keeps happy, just happens to black folks. So
I'm gonna take the politics out of this because this
ain't a political thing. This is a folks that don't
look like us, not willing to understand, acknowledge, or deal
with the fact that racism does still exist. Do we
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want to think that I raised our children not to
see color? My husband and I both, but that's not
the world that we live in. So again, politics removed.
All folks that don't look like us, I believe have
an issue of understanding the sensitivity the culture and just
stop being racist. I went, I spoke at a panel
(01:19:23):
and it was a political form and they asked, how
do we change the perception of you know, the racism
and rampant racism myself. Okay, it's real easy, stop being racist.
Come to the hood, don't come and talk, come and listen.
We don't have communication. We don't have There are some
well intended folks that really don't see themselves as being
(01:19:46):
a part of the problem, but they are. And then
there are those that know they're a part of the
problem and are happy to continue to be that. We
have to get to a place where we can acknowledge
that there is racism and address the root cause why,
and then just kind of, you know, fix it, because
again one of those issues where we're still here talking
about it. It still exists whether you want to acknowledge
(01:20:06):
it or not. But the thing here, Michael, you can't
remove the politics because the politics comes in when you're
trying to fix the problem. And we know for a
fact as being crumb saved the George Floyd Justice Act.
It was that was Republican Senator Tim Scott who stood
in the way Democrats are on board. It was Tim
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Scott and Lindsay Graham. They could not get ten, they
could get not get eight other Republicans, and the Senate
to move it died. Well. Not only that, rolling when
it passed the House of Representatives in March of twenty
twenty one, it passed by vote of two twenty to
two twelve. Two hundred and twelve Republicans voted against the bill,
(01:20:48):
including the black ones. So no Republicans supported the George
Floyd Justice and Police in that you can't get past
the politics on this now. One of the problems I
would argue is that they need to talk about the
white people who are unjustly killed by police and flip
the script on Republicans and box the men because and
they need to bring in the Fraternal Order Police and
the International Association of Police Chiefs because both of those
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police organizations supported the George Floyd Justin's the Police and Act,
And they need to have Senate hearings and House hearings
for them to talk about why it was good for
everybody they said it didn't take away from police officers rights,
and it also protected citizens. They need to bring in
white crime mothers whose loved wants were unjustly killed by
police and get those white mothers strategically from states that
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whose senators you need, whose Republican senators you need to
get their votes to get the bill passed. The way
that they're going about trying to get the bill passed,
when the majority of the people who have to vote
for what you won't don't look like you, you need
to have a different strategy, Okay, And that's something that's
(01:21:58):
missing here personally. No disrespect to the George Floyd family.
I would take George Floyd's name off the bill. I
would rename the bill the Law and Order, Justice and
Policing Act. I would flip the script on them. Donald
Trump ran partly on the platform of law and order.
I would talk about how white people are being harmed
unjustly by policing. That documented cases because every year of
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the majority of more white people are shot and killed
by police than African Americans. And when you look at
fatal force, which is the most comprehensive database on police killings.
From the Washington Post, it tells you each year, fifty
percent of the people killed by police on white people.
So a lot of people mean well, but to actually
get this bill passed in the House and then in
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the Senate, where you need sixty votes and you're gonna
need at least nine Republicans to vote for the bill,
the strategy that they're using to get it past is
not going to work. You know, Matt, I think you
can rename it. I still think the vote were the same.
I don't know. I think what Michael saying is I
mean so compelling, because one of the things I was
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going to say is I have considerably more clients who
are not black than those who are black. Part of
that is the demographics of where I live. But the
reality is the numbers are that, you know, primarily white
people are harmed by the police. So I think, but
our white folks thinking up though, No, not the way
they should because what I see or go ahead, I'll
(01:23:23):
yield to Mike. No, go go ahead, Then you go ahead.
I'm the go ahead. What I see the difference being
is that generally white people make everything a one off, right,
So every time a white person gets killed, they don't
say that it's a systemics thing against white people. It
is with our people. However, in order to make it
a more palatable conversation, frankly, you need to include all
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the people that look like their siblings that are dying
in jails and prisons and getting a shot by the police,
rather than it being a one off thing. A good
example would be, I think of that case they had
in Minnesota, the young white woman that was killed by
the black officer, right that was a police brutality case,
and they ran all of the guy's green earthly there
because it was a young white woman, but it was
still presented like it was an aberration rather than, you know,
(01:24:10):
something that happens pretty frequently. And I think broadening it
to show that people of all colors, especially black people,
are being harmed by the police in great number every year,
is very important to galvanizing that support. But I'll let
Michael finish what he was going to say twenty seconds.
A lot of this has to do with the media.
When you when you read fatal Force, they document a
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lot of these police killings. Their video, the dashcamp videos,
their cell phone videos. Where are the cell phone videos?
Why isn't the white control medias showing the videos or
white people being shot and killed by police, because if
they know that, if they know that, if they did,
there'll be an uprising from white people who would call
for it to be changed. But as long as you
make it look like it's a black issue, and many
(01:24:54):
white people see African Americans as people who need to
be policed as opposed to being protected, they would keep
the status quote. All right, folks, hold on one second,
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How money works. Fact to literacy is critically important. And
the earlier we are able to get folksed thinking about
money and realizing how money works, the better we are.
There's the Global Children's Financial Literacy Foundation. That's really what
their focus is and the co founders are Navy veterans
Prince Dikes and Chadwick Davis. Their Kids Book Club awards
(01:28:20):
forty thousand ills worth of stocks and books two Kids
journal Us. Right now is Prince Dikes from Denver, Colorado,
to tell us how the program works. Glad they have
you on the show, Prince. So, so where did the
ideas start? Beside? This started back in twenty thirteen when
(01:28:41):
I finished my grad school. My NBA started with my son,
whose name is Wesley. He's to the book series Wesley
learns to invest, west learns about critic. Weston learns by
the insurance. So it's just with me when I finished school.
The things are thinking about things I wish I had
that I was taught by my parents. And then I've
noticed that other people just to notice in the education
(01:29:03):
and gap that I wanted to pass on to my son.
And so since launching, and how many kids have you
been able to reach touch impact at this time just
with the book club program, it's been about fifty kids.
That's all just from the from the book club itself
probably like getting to award the stocks to the kids.
(01:29:25):
But with the club itself, we've partnered with you know,
we've done that through partnerships through the boys and girls clubs,
partnerships through schools, things like that, in community organizations and
so and how have you seen the growth of these
boys and girls when it comes to understanding of money.
The thing is they're introduced to topics like investing, their
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introduced to topics of credit insurance and at the end,
you know, if they become a winner of stock their
parents are actually get a brokerage account, Coustollan account and
we install stocks into them. So that's been a great
thing for us as well. So you know, I've noticed
that kids have been energetic about it, They've been excited,
and they're mostly excited about having something that's tangible for
(01:30:09):
them as well. So, um, you know, one of the
things that that that that we often see is that
we repeat the sins over and over and over again
because frankly, in many of our families, we aren't talking
directly about money when when we are younger. Are you
also seeing the parents of these children now become a
(01:30:32):
lot more smarter when it comes to money, how they handle,
how they make decisions. Yes, when parents are awarded, once
parents have that constilled accounsel of their child, most parents
have the tendency to go out and want to purchase
more stocks for them. But I'm not going to sit
here and um paying a pretty picture for your rolling.
It's it's been a struggle. I've seen some parents who
(01:30:55):
you know, who haven't taken the interest into it. I've
seen some parents who may have had backgrounds to where
they're not allowed to get into it, and things like that.
But that's a deeper problem that we are slowly addressing.
But you know, some parents are just not into it,
but we try to. You know, like Frederick Douglas said,
you know, it's better to train a child well, to
(01:31:17):
fix a broken child versus to fix a broken adult.
Something along those lines. That kind of paraphrase. There gotcha
questions my panel, Shanning your first This is awesome. I
love what you're doing. I think the whole financial literacy,
the book club and expanding on that is really great.
(01:31:37):
So how do we if folks are interested in what
it is that you're doing, how do they reach you
to help you expand your program into other urban areas
where it's needed, which is pretty much everywhere. Yes, please
feel free to reach out to me prints p R
I n CE at Children's Financial Literacy dot org, or
(01:31:57):
you can head over to our website g self dot org,
which is global the acronym for Global children Financial Literacy
dot org as you can see on the stream, and
please reach out tours. We're looking to expand, grow and
to make this the best program in the country. Michael Michael,
(01:32:22):
y'allmal okay, Prince is a great program. How do you
help the children decide when they want to buy more stocks,
like which companies to invest in. Do you just go
by what they like or is there another method involved
in that? Yes, the first thing we do is to
tell kids to start where they spend the money, Start
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with what they know, and start where they spend their money.
Like all kids know Nike, Apple, Coca Cola. Those are
stocks we started with with kids, started with SMP five hundred,
companies that kids know and a fabiliar with. But we
have since evolved into the point now where world Ward
Kids Index funds that tracks the SMP five hundred because
(01:33:03):
we want to make sure we're good stories of what
we award kids. Because I don't know what Nike would
be in twenty years. I don't know what Apple would
be in twenty years, and the last thing I want
to happen is to be the one invested into blockbusters
something like that. So we tell the kids, let's get
a basket of the top five hundred companies in America
via the SMP five hundred and have those dividends reinvested.
(01:33:26):
Thank Matt, So, my question is kind of similar. How
have you combated the fear that a lot of adults
have of the stock market and the misunderstanding of how
you can let money work for you. I know, there
are a lot of adults who are afraid to invest
and they'd rather keep it under their mattress, thinking that
you can't trust the stock market. So how do you
(01:33:47):
combat that with the parents of these children whom you're helping.
The thing is, you know, we evaluated that and when
we came into the marketplace, we noticed that there were
so many things captain so many but something most of
the industry geared towards adults. We felt as though, how
did you get to this point? And we knew the
(01:34:08):
reason why people got to this point. They feel so
uncomfortable with things because they wasn't introduced to them as
a child. So we tried to with our book series,
you know, with investing, credit insurance and things like that,
we attack it at the child at the earliest age
possible and bring the parents along because the parents have
to participate in order for the child to have a
constotant account. So one of the things that we evolved
(01:34:30):
into is to have parents teach parents how to open
up a constotant account, because, like you said, a lot
of them are afraid just like myself, just like my dad.
But I think a lot of it is geared towards
we're not introducing to these topics as a child, So
we wanted to do that first and bring the parents along.
All right, then, and what is your goal? Let's say
(01:34:50):
five years. What are you wanna be five years from now?
My ultimate goal five years for every kid when they
walk into kindergarten, they have an investment account. We don't
want to wait until child turns eighteen years old, nothing
wrong with that. Everybody gives them scholarships, the world open.
They flood the gates with them with scholarships and grants, loans,
things like that. How about we reallocate those resources to kindergarteners.
(01:35:12):
So I ultimate ghost. When a child walks into kindergarten,
they have a funded investment account. Every year they get
a financial literacy, of course, so give them financial literacy
with an investment account when they turned eighteen years old.
So now they get ready to go buy to go
off to college, to school or anything like that. This
is something that can help them and they feel like
this is not just a pond the Scott theory. This
(01:35:34):
is something that's tangible to them that they had since
there was a child. All right, then, all right, where
can people reach out and get more information from you?
I feel free, you know, Prince at Children's Financial Literacy
dot Org. My name is Prince Dikes. You can follow
me off, reach out to me on Instagram, shoot me
a DM there. But the best way to reach out
to us is follow our website as you can see here,
(01:35:56):
follow us on LinkedIn, Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, and feel free
to reach out just anywhere you would like us to
help you, or that we can help you as well.
All right, help plus so help you, all right, Prince,
thanks a lot, Roland, thank you. All right, folks, You see,
I'm repping Howard University. Of course they made March Madness.
(01:36:17):
Unfortunately they lost to the number one seed Kansas Jayhawks
ninety six to sixty eight. Vice President Kamala Harris gradual
Howard University. She was in the stands watching the Bison perform.
This was the first time they had made March Madness
since nineteen ninety two. There's been thirty one years. And so,
(01:36:39):
of course, Howard folks, what's wrong, Matt and checking your
head's wrong? First, we had to flash jerseys in the
whole tournament, but just proud to see Alma Matter doing
well as always gotch Well, trust me, I'm right there
with you because we lost in the first damn round
I don't know hind the Hill, Texas and then lost
to Penn State. We were seven seed, they were ten.
(01:37:00):
But after the game, Vice President Harris did have opportunity
to speak to the Bison in the locker rooms. Is
so good playing hard. You played to the very last second.
You made all us Bison so so proud. You hustled
(01:37:24):
down there. You are smart, you are disciplined. You put
everything you had into the game, and you know that's
what it's about. Right until the last minute, you guys
did that. You didn't stop until the last second. You
did not stop, and I was so inspiring. So you
(01:37:45):
keep playing with chin up and shoulders back because you
showed the world who Vison are, right. I mean you
literally what you have done is in historic proportion. Ye know.
I was like Howard back in the day where we
(01:38:06):
were just happy that there was a game, much less
get into this place, right and I see Bison literally
all over the world, and we've been talking about you,
this team, this team, you all this team this year,
this team. You make us so proud. So I know
(01:38:26):
you may not be feeling great right now, okay, but
know who you are. You are excellence, You are hard work,
you are powerful, and you are winners, all right, so
please know that. Please know that, and I'll see you later.
And if you guys ever want to come and do
(01:38:47):
a white house to a risk coach there you are,
so we should we plan if you guys want at
some point right when it's like you know, when you
feel like play hooky at right after whatever, just come
and we'll do a white house tour. Okay, all right,
I'm so proud of you guys. Sod all right, I'll
(01:39:09):
see you later. I loved well. Normally Shannon, the winner
of March Madness gets to go visit the president. But
when you when you, when you're you're when the vice
president of your school, what the hell you get to
make a trip too? Hm? I am mad at it
(01:39:30):
that I got nothing. You know, everybody's talking about trying
to say take politics out. I am a Republican, she
is a Democrat. But I am mad at it. You know,
these these young folks are our future, and to encourage
them and let them understand it in earlier is that
you have goals, you have dreams, you have things, you
may outcomes, you may want. It doesn't always happen, but
as long as you can do it and do everything
(01:39:52):
you do with with decency and in order, it's time
to keep the head up, shoulders back, and keep it
moving forward. I am mad at it, uh, and from
Virginia State, by the way, not Howard. I mean we
could be talking about Virginia State. I mean I would
have like that a little bit more. Did y'all make
the tournament? Go Rojans. I don't care. Did you make
(01:40:14):
the tournament? Go Rojans, I take the answers. No, Uh,
you didn't make the tournament? So uh you know, okay,
I thought so all right, I gotta go to break.
We'll be back rolling by the Unfiltered on the Black
Stunt Network on the next A Balanced Life with Me,
(01:40:35):
Doctor Jackie re Entry anxiety. A lot of us are
having trouble transitioning in this post pandemic society and don't
even realize it. We are literally stuck between two worlds
in purgatory. How to get out of purgatory and regain
your footing and balance what emotions they're feeling and being
able to label them, because as soon as you label
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Deborah Owens, America's wealth coach. The studies show that millennials
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(01:41:19):
What can we do to make sure that we get
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my man unfiltered. Zakia Harris left for Indianapolis, Indiana home
(01:42:47):
in February sixteenth, has not returned. The seventeen year old
it's five feet six inches tall where it's one hundred
fifty five pounds with brown hair and brown eyes. Anyone
with information about Zakia Harris, your call the indian Appolis,
Indiana Police Department at three one seven three to see
three one seven three two seven three one five. Why
do people act the food of a parking spaces? A
(01:43:08):
Missouri jury old convicted a man of shooting an Amazon
delivery driver in a dispute over an accessible parking spot.
This is just stupid. Larry Thomason was found guilty of
first degree assault and armed criminal action in the March
twenty nineteen shooting of Jalen Walker, who was paralyzed from
the waist down. Walker illegally parked his delivery van in
(01:43:31):
the accessible parking spot. When Thomason confronted him, the two
got into a fight. Thomason then pulled out the gun
and shot Walker in the back. Thomason will be sentenced
on May first. I never understand these people, Matt, who
you want to you act, the food, you do something,
and now you'll ask going to prison over something silly
(01:43:53):
like a parking spot. Yeah, this is insane. This guy
threw away his life over a parking spot. There's nothing
to say beyond that, and took away functionally a life
and a lot of respects. You know. Now this young
man is paralyzed from the waist down over something that
could have been you know, maybe expression frustration and let
it go on. But this is ridiculous. And this is
(01:44:15):
the kind of thing, unfortunately, I've seen in my practice
where people have just not been able to regulate and
they end up taking away their own lives by poor decisions.
How about this with here? Colorado man faces hate Crown
charges this idiot for drawing a swastika and riding anti
black slurers on public spaces in New York City. Not
a good place to do that. James Ryan was indicted
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on three counts of criminal mischief as a hate crime
and three counts of aggrevated harassment for drawing a swastica
on the gates the city hall and an anti black
slur on a pillar. On December thirteen, twenty twenty one.
He also a spray painted a large swastika and wrote
another anti black slur outside a CVS pharmacy and the
charging bull statue on Wall Street. Yeah that's not gonna
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fly in the York City, Michael. Uh No, it's not
gonna fly in New York City. But see once again,
a lot of these people think they could get away
with it, and they're drinking you know Trump's uh Jews,
and think that they can just do whatever they want
to do, say whatever they want to say, and not
have consequences. So, um, these hate crimes are on the rise.
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NBC News it had an article about that. Ye. So yeah,
these people need to be held accountable. Sash story out
of your city of Baltimore. Uh, you've lost one of
the strong actors there, Shannon. That is Lance Reddick, sixty
years old, star of the Wire as well as the
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John Wicks series John Wick four actually is out as
we is coming out, and he was found at his
home this morning of natural causes. Of course, he started
more than sixty movies. Also was very very involved in
a lot of video games as well. We had not
betune to catch up with him on the red carpet
of the American Black Film Festival honors a few years ago.
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What's up, sir, How you doing? Have we met before?
I just seen you. You've probably seen it on television
of the news, but I've seen you. My wife was
a huge John Wick fan. I don't know if I
could keep watching firing people get killed. Ye had a
number seemed to go up from the movie, right. I said, Baby,
all they do is people getting killed. She like, I know,
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but it's great. Like she's a crazy John Wick fan.
Oh gotta got it. Well, I hope she likes much
Act two. She would joined this interview because I'm talking
about like owns all three blue rays? Got it and
then recorded on the on the cape. I said, you
own the blue ray? Yeah, but that's if I want
to look for the Blue ray. I gotta ask you
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this question. One nice honors the great Luke Gossip. Your
thoughts about Luke goss Wow, so many thoughts about Luke
GOSSA I mean one of them. I mean, it's such
a cliche to say, but he's one of those Katsu's shoulders.
I stood on him, you know what I mean. I mean,
I wouldn't be able to be doing this without him. Yeah,
one thing. But also he hasn't stopped. He's still he's
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still acting. Yeah. Yeah, it's so funny, you know. I
M The last thing I remember seeing him in was
Boardwalk Empire, and uh, he killed it. He killed it. Yeah. Yeah,
Well it's all I'm glad that they're honoring him so
he gets to feel all of that love that's gonna
be in the room and I yeah, I agree, I agree,
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he'll be pretty good. What's you got going on? What's
next for you? I just wrapped a movie called One
Night in Miami that's based on a playing. Uh. It's
Regina da It's Eugenia King's first film that she's directed. Uh.
I'm about to start another film. Unfortunately I can't talk
about it. It's all good. Uh. We just wrapped the
third season of um Corporate, which is a show that
I do on Comedy Central, and then later on this
(01:47:54):
year we're gonna go into the final season of Bosch
on Amazon. Well, good lucking with it. We'll see you
and know all of that. And I'm sure my wife
was saying wait with John Wick for it's a pleasure.
It's I appreciate it. Thanks a lot, Thank you. Indeed
a great actor, Shannon, absolutely, you know um you mentioned
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the wire and John Wick. I am a John Wick fan.
Everybody in my household was a John Wick fan. And
the one with the puppy and you know, motivating the
revenge and it's not just killing. There's actually a story
there and his character has a lot to do with
the story. But you know, it's it's awesome to see
folks that don't forget where they're from and get back
(01:48:38):
and invest, and it's sad when we see them lead
too soon. Indeed, sixty years old, Lance Reddick passed away,
Matt Michael Shannon, which will appreciate it. Thank you so
very much. I'll see y'all again, folks. I got to go.
I'll see y'all Monday, right here in Roland, Barton, un
filter on the Blackstart Network, author Dallas. My youngest sisters
getting married Zina, So I'll be yeah, I'm been put
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to work. I'll be videotaping the wedding. I've been doing
that for the longest. It's all good. I'll see a
lot Monday. Hu um um um um um um um
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