Tim Scott in damage control; Gov't shutdown skirted; KevOnStage talks Black ownership

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Today's Thursday, said Timber two thousand and twenty one, well
Land Martin, down the filter, come in live to you
from Dallas, Texas, streaming live on the Black Star Network
centator Tim Scott. He insists that he did the right
thing in killing the Georgia for Justice at blaming on Democrats.
Two more law enforcement groups separate from the other two
now say that they signed was ut. But what's really

(06:02):
going on here? A breakdown of the bill. Is it
true or not that Democrats wanted to so called dee
fund the police. I have gone through it. I can't
find the evidence that Scott's talking about. When here from
Michael Harriet of the route where he breaks down how
Scott has changed course when it comes to police reform.

(06:22):
We also talked to Reddy Hudson about police accountability and
this bill as well as a conversation y'all do not
want to miss as we dig deeper and who is
telling the truth about the George Floyd Justice Act. Also
in California, the d A move to scraped sixty thousand
marijuana cases. Will tell you about that. California Governor Gavin

(06:45):
Newsom has authorized the return of black property on a
beach that was stolen from African Americans. Who will run
off of that beach uh decades ago? Also on today's show,
Tennessee State Center here convicted in a tax case. Four
out of five charters will hear from her and her

(07:06):
attorneys are on today's show as well. And also some
sad news. One of the sisions we told you about
was missing this week, found dead in Houston. Folks, as
a jam packed show, was time to bring the fat
rolling Martin unfiltered on the Black Start Network. Let's go
whatever the miss, He's on it, whatever it is, he's

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She's really the question though he's rolled in all Right, folks,
we've been doing a d dive into the failure of

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the George Floyd Justice Act in the United States Senate.
It is pitted uh, South Carolina Senator Tim Scott, Republican
against Democrat Senator Corey Booker. Now we have been breaking
down for you exactly where Senator Scott has stood on
this issue. He has said that uh he uh did
not move forward on the bill because Democrats wanted to

(08:43):
defund the police. He insists in the bill that there
are several clauses that show where they wanted to take
money for law enforcement. His position they must keep giving money.
On Tuesday, to police organizations came out publicly stating that
at there was nothing in the posed letislation at defunded police.

(09:04):
One of them was the Fraternal Order Police. Senator Scott's
office sent me an email today showing other law enforcement
groups who take the opposite of the position. All Right,
so we're gonna we're gonna read for you exactly what
those are. So let's let's actually go through this. So so, uh,
this was a particular statement, uh that that that came

(09:27):
from one of those gups. I want to read from
that that police so let's go ahead and pull that
graphic up so you can actually see, uh, this graphic.
And so one of these again, one of these organizations,
and like I say, what you have is you gonna
understand there's not one law enforcement organization. There are different
law enforcement groups. And so that's what Scott's office is

(09:49):
banking on. And so they're saying, yeah, the Shriff's uh
the Shares organization that they are opposition to the bill,
but again you have to other groups that are in
support of the bill. Yeah, I know, it sounds real confusing, folks,
because it is confusing, uh to understand exactly what is

(10:12):
going on. And so, uh, here here's what you have here, Okay,
with this particular shares organization, all right, which is s
c U s A. And that's what that's what they
actually go by. Now, that is the South Carolina Shares Association.
Now here's what's interesting, all right, it's a South Carolina
Shares Association. There are forty nine other states, but again

(10:35):
Scott is banking on them. And so this is what
they wrote. Uh, they were particularly disappointed to learn the
deterioration of negotiations on national police reform. Now, they wrote
various media outlets have attempted to determine who is at
fault for the class bipartisan discussions. Some have cited support

(10:56):
or criticism from various national law enforcement organizations. In fact,
some have gone so far to a lad Centator Tim
Scott and his staff operated in bad faith and against
the whole uh, against the wishes of police groups. So
this person as someone who literally said at the negotiation
table with Senator Scott, Graham and Booker, I want to
clarify a few matters now. So again, this is coming

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from the president of the South Carolina Shafess Association, all right,
who was last name is Tulson, all right. So here's
what he lays out in here. He lays out in
here that okay, blah blah blah, I have great respect,
admiration YadA, YadA, YadA for these other organizations. Uh, he says. Uh.

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He goes on to say, honest communication, you can't understand
each other's concerns with objectives. YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA YadA.
He said. Second, while I never saw a legislative draft
that contained the words defunding the police, that does not
mean visions in these drafts would not cause law enforcement

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to lose funding. Several drafts contained provisions that prohibited states
or local units of government from being eligible for Cops
or Burns Jack grants unless certain statutes were enacted, making
critical funding for agencies in the executive branch contingent upon

(12:26):
the enactment of statutes about the legislative branch. In my opinion,
is wrong. Had these provisions being enacted, law enforcement agencies
nationwide likely would have lost important federal funding because there's
state legislatures either would not or could not comply with
the federal requirements. This is de facto the funding police. Okay,

(12:48):
let me unpack why that is a lie. At first,
I want you to leave the statement up. Leave the
statement up, Leave the statement up, because I need you
to under your understanding. You see for your own words.
I need you to realize. We showed you the video
where a year ago Senator Tim Scott said that if

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folks did not they're not in compliance, they could not
get the grants. He said that in the executive order
that Donald Trump signed that Senator Tim Scott supported it
said the same thing. So all of a sudden, why

(13:34):
is there a difference? What what's going on here? That
they are asserting that, oh, if you don't do these things,
you can't get the money. Senator Tim Scott actually said it,
if y'all have a sound bite, when he was on
with Judy Woodruff for PBS. He said it, Listen, we're

(13:57):
saying these things should be tied to federal funding, that
if departments go ahead with them, they risk losing funding.
And yet you also said today that this is something
that should be debated, the choke calls should be debated
for the American people to hear. So it sounds like
you're open to a complete ban on a chokehold, Is
that right? Well, I would say that say it this way.

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My legislation gets us to the position where if you
are a law enforcement department that does not already have
a ban on chokeholes, you do not have access to
the federal funding. The House bill does not have the
ability to actually, in my opinion, ban chokeholes. What they
do is a defund states revenue streams from the federal government.

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It's kind of the same thing. To be honest with you,
the fact of the matter is that policing is a
local government decision, not a federal decision. So I'd love
to see how the Democrats thread that needle from federalism,
uh and the local department's ability to make the decisions.
We do that through the refusing to give them the

(15:03):
grand dollars. The White House and their Executive Order does
the exact same thing through a certification process. So all
three levers of government have the same objective. I think
we get there if we keep working together looking for them. Okay,

(15:26):
he literally said we do that in the executive Order,
Sarah tim Scott, What the hell is the difference. That's
what the federal government does. The federal government in numerous deals.
But I guarantee you he's voted for tell states, if

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you do not do these things, you can't get the
federal funding. That's the only way the federal folks are
able to make changes. I told you all before. When
the highway federal highway funding. They want to increase the
drinking age, the legal drinking age in America from eighteen
to one. The federal government said to South Carolina, to

(16:10):
the other forty nine states, if you want to qualify
for federal highway funds, you will only get the money
if you raise your minimum drinking age to one. That's
a fact. So he's now a setting, Oh I disagree

(16:33):
with that. Uh from a state level. I'm sorry y'all
that that dog just not gonna hunt. And so he's saying, oh,
these you know, policing, it's it's a local thing, and
this is a problem. He's saying it's a local thing.
But why in the hell are we even discussing a
federal building. You can't have it both ways, Center, Tim Scott.

(17:01):
You can't say it's a local thing. But then you're leadering,
leading this federal bill. And you want to see and
and look here all of these statements that Senator Tim
Scott has made about about this this particular bill. I mean,
he he said all kinds of stuff. He said, change

(17:21):
requires resources. Sad that the Democrats proposal contained multiple measures
that would have diminished funding for law enforcement. No, it
wouldn't diminish it. It simply says if you do not
do these things, you don't get the federal funds. That
ain't cutting funding. That's simply saying you want the money
you got. Neotal stuff. Scott says, we all agree only

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the best should wear the badge. If we want to
protect vulnerable communities, where to provide the resources needed to
train and retain the best. You know what, You're also
got to make changes to how they actually do. I
grew up in some very poor communities, always wondering if
my mother would make it into the house safely after
her late ships. Folks in those communities deserve better. Now
continue working until they see solutions. Really, then he goes on,

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under GOP leadership, we saw solutions. Permanent funding for abc US.
That is a lie. That is a lie, Senator Uh.
Senator Scott, you did not do permanent funding for HBCUs.
In fact, you could say under GOP leadership, it wasn't
even a GOP bill. That was led by Congresswoman all

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My Adams, Democrat from North Carolina, HBCU graduate. Please don't
live record low unemployment rates. At a point, they will
record low unemployment rates, then they double when COVID hit.
So please stopping a fair justice system stop line. Senator
Tim Scott. Democrats controlled the House Criminal Justice Reform bill,

(18:53):
the first step at was passed by a Democratic House
Congressman Hakim Effrees lead it. That bill was strengthened in
the United States Senate with Senator Corey Booker, Senator Kamala
Harris and Senator Dick Durbin, including Republican Senator Chuck Raslie,
said that bill did not go far enough and it
was strengthened. Please stop trying to claim credit under GOP leadership. No,

(19:19):
that is simply false. If it were not for the
Democrats insisting on changes being made, you would not have
had the first step act. Stop taking credit for things
you didn't do. He goes. If the Democrats really wants
solutions now, they should come back to the negotiating table. No,
how about give me honest about actually what's going on now.

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I told you these these statements, all these people releasing
these various statements about about this particular bill. And I
told you there was a Sheriff's association, but also what
was taking a different position? All right, And so here's
what I find to be interesting. And again, Centator Tim

(20:04):
Scott's office sent me an email. Okay, you have two groups,
Major County Shares of America and then you have National
Association of Police Organizations. All right, the Major County Shares
Associations of America. They sent out their statement, and so

(20:24):
that's the problem. What you have is you have different folks,
different groups on the aisles, and so this is what
they said. The m c SA letislative proposals could diminish
policing resources in many ways without specifically defunding programs. What
the hell, you can't have it both ways. The net

(20:46):
effect of one proposal that Senator Scott opposed was that
fewer resources would be available to departments that would be
unlikely to be able to immediately comply with the many
new regulations. Hey, y'all, that's what happens. We support and
encourage legislation, y'all. If y'all want to hear contradiction, listen
to this. We support and encourage legislation that leads to

(21:10):
better policing and more safety for communities. However, legislation that
adds more regulations while threatening existing funding levels is setting
up our law force and is ful failure. No, it's
not stop lying. You cannot complain about more regulations and
you want the money carriage stick carre on the carriage

(21:36):
stick stick carrot. If you want more money, federal focus
saying you gotta do these things to get more money.
So what Senior tivis Scott wants to do it and say, Hey,
I'm just gonna give you all more money. No, you
have got to comply. You have got to make changes
to how you behave, how your offer just behave. The

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problem is they don't want the level of accountability that
Democrats have been calling for. That is the fundamental problem here. So, y'all,
I've gone through the bill and the stuff Senor tim
Scott sent me about, Oh, it would be fund No.
What the Democrats were saying is, if y'all want to

(22:23):
get this extra money, you've got to do some things
to qualify for it. That's it is no different than
the executive order that Trump signed. You want to get
the money, you gotta be certified. You got an option,
don't get certified, don't get the money. No one is
forcing see if this is the thing that Sarah tim
Scott and his team they're not admitting to. No one

(22:44):
is forcing any law enforcement agency to do anything. What
they're saying is, if you want more money, this is
what you gotta do. Hell, that's like my mom and
daddy saying, huh, so you want me to fund your trip, Well,

(23:05):
I wanted you do some ship around the house. That's
like me saying, no, I ain't gonna do extra stuff
around the house. I want the money, and my parents like, well, hell,
I ain't giving you the money, y'all. This is not hard.
But the problem is law enforcement and Senator Tim Scott
wanted both ways. They do not want to force these

(23:27):
law enforcement people to make changes. And then Scott's talking
about federalism and this is all local. Guess what. That's fine.
But see see here's my other problem right here, Senator
Tim Scott, you, of all people, you gotta stop this
nonsense about federalism and states rights. When your state gets

(23:49):
damn their half of his budget from the federal government,
it's amazing. High got on like federalism until you need
to check. The federal government right now sets conditions on
housing grants, environmental grants, transportation grants, up and down the board.

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But all of a sudden, Sarah, Tim Scott, no, no, no, no, no,
we can't have that when it comes to policing. No, sorry,
I'm not buying it. I'm not buying it because it's nonsense.
They don't want the accountability, folks, that's what they don't want.
I want to bring in several people. Reddy Hudson, he's

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the founder of the National Coalition of law enforcement Officers
for Justice Reforming Accountability. We have Cheryl Dorsey, retired Los
Angeles the Police Department sergeant. We have Michael Harriet, senior
writer for the Route. He's out of Birmingham Share also
the author of the book Confidence Chronicles. The Confidence chronic

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coals the greatest crime story never told out of Los Angeles.
Read it. I'm gonna start with you. Go to Cheryl,
go to Michael Ready. I've walked through the bill. I've
talked to Congresswoman Karen Bass. I've been texting Senator Tim Scott.
I've been emailing his office. We've been sitting, We've been
trying to get Senator Corey Booker on. I have not

(25:22):
talked to him. We talked to his staff. Centator Booker,
I need you to come talk to Black America police.
If you have even found time to go and meet
the press and Jake Tapper on CNN and UH and
other shows, you come to black media. Okay, So that
needs to be said. Was a trip here? Read it?

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Is the game that Sentator Tim Scott is playing by
touting the sheriffs organization in this South Carolina Shares group. Okay.
And then you have the Fraternal Order of Police, which
is considered the major police organ the nation. And another
one that said what he's saying, is not it your

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assessment of what's going on here when it comes to
the George Floyd Justice Act, Well, you hit the kneel
on the head already rolling uh Sonator Scott is responding
to his handlers. He's doing what his handlers wanted to do.
I read an excellent article by the brother that's on
the panel with us today, Michael Harriet, who pointed out

(26:28):
that Senator Scott started back in two thousand and fifteen
introducing the bill that called for exactly what you said,
federal withholding of funds for states that didn't comply with
the guidelines of the building he set forth. He is
on the side of those folks again, those people he
represents in those law enforcement agencies are never ever going

(26:52):
to vote for accountability, support accountability for enforcement agencies that
violate our rights. Our constitutional rights, are human rights, are
civil liberties. They're never going to do that. They're going
to stall, bullshit, and and and shuffle all the way
until Democrats do what they need to do, either get

(27:13):
rid of the Philipbus, then cram some of these things
down the throats of aggressive open opposition or not. But
Tim Scott is going to be Tim Scott. I don't
think any of us are surprised by his performance. Cheryl, Again,
I have taken a lot of time to walk through this.
I've gone through um these particular statements. I've gone through

(27:38):
um what folks have said. I've listened to what Scott
said on Face the Nation, I listened to what Booker said.
I've spent the time going through it. I sat here
and read the statement from the National fratern or Order
of Police as well as the International Association of Chiefs
of Police. Okay, now I'm not in law enforcement, but frankly,

(28:01):
if we're talking about who are the major police organizations,
it's really the Internet Association with TISA Police and Return
of Order Police. But Scott is using what the sheriff's
folks are saying, when, if we really want to be honest,
the biggest problem in this country with policing is coming
from the jurisdiction is covered by the FOP as well

(28:23):
as the I A c P. So here's the deal.
There's a lot of double talk and a lot of
code speak, and we understand that There are eighteen thousand
police departments across these United States, and all of them
have unions of one sort or another. So to cherry
pick one South Carolina's police union and tout what they

(28:46):
have to say is somehow having more sway and meaning
is really being disingenuous. This was never going to pass
in the first place. Tim Scott made it perfectly clear
in the very beginning when he said, qualify it. Immunity
is going to be a non starter in any negotiation.
That means having officers be held accountable, having officers be

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able to be charged when they violate policy, when they
commit murder, when they use deadly for us as a
first resort rather than a last resort. Qualified immunity would
stop all of that if it were removed out of
the Police Officers Bill of Rights. They do not want that,
and Tim Scott knows that also in this George Floyd

(29:30):
Justice and Reform Act, I've got so many issues with
it because a lot of what they talk about deals
with federal funding not being given. As you said, if
they don't do certain things, or if they do certain
things like no knock warrants. It only applies to federal
no knock warrants. When was the last time anybody saw

(29:51):
a federal officer served a dog on search warrant for narcotics?
Brianna Taylor wasn't killed by federal officers. She was killed
by state officers. And so all of this talk about
no knock warrants and banning chokeholes versus other departments who
continue to use the chokehole again would only affect if

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it's a federal agency, not local and state police, because
police chiefs have tremendous autonomy, and they will continue to
do exactly what it is that they have been doing,
which is sheltering arrant officers. All of them are being
intellectually dishonest in their assertions that somehow this is about money,
this is about police accountability. Be clear, Michael, you have

(30:38):
a piece in the route, uh, and with the headline
in loving memory of Tim Scott. Uh. You say this,
uh In the piece you said you said, uh, but
but but before his untimely death. And first of all,
obviously he hasn't died. But I know we know what
you're talking about. You said, Scott also believed in police reform.

(30:59):
He didn't us believe in it. He actually tried to
do something about it. He tried before Derek Chauvin neeled
on George Floyd's neck. He tried before Louisville, Kentucky police
officers lie on an Affi David to obtaining no knock
one for Brianna Taylor's home, before Ahmad Arebury, before white
people pretended to care about black people for one brief summer,

(31:20):
Tim Scott cared about black people unpacked for the folks
watching and listening, how Tim Scott, Tim Scott Sarah tim
Scott today is totally different from the Senator Tim Scott
from a few years ago. So I think you unpacked
a lot of it rolling in your open. But one

(31:42):
thing I kind of disagree with is like we think
Tim Scott was saying Tim Scott doesn't want police reform.
It's clear like Tim Scott has been like Tim Scott
came up with the idea if he calls this defunding
the police. He came up with this idea back in
two thousand fifteen when Walter Scott was shot and killed

(32:05):
by North Charleston police officer, and Tim Scott since then
has been trying to introduce the Walter Scott Notification at
which would create a database of police misconduct and use
of lethal force. Right, so Tim Scott believes in this.
Tim Scott sold himself out. He knows his party doesn't
believe in this. And they said the black dude out

(32:26):
there to take the heat because he's Tim Scott, He's
the black Republican. Right. But since two thousand fifteen, Tim
Scott has been trying to get some of these reforms.
And and as as we talked about qualified immunity and
no knock uh no, not warrants and chokehole band that

(32:49):
the mechanism. This this is what Tim Scott's office told me, right,
this is not what I think I taught he. I
talked to Tim Scott and he got his chief of
staff to walk me through the initial version of the bill.
And they called the withholding of funds this is their quote,
a complicated strategy too, in that enforce the reforms that

(33:14):
we want. Right. So, if Tim Scott is complaining about
the stuff it, he's complaining about the stuff that Tim
Scott came up with. And that's important to know because
when we talk about these police unions, we have to
first of all realize that the Fraternal Order of Police
overseas and represents more than half of the police officers

(33:34):
in the country. And then we have to really know
that there is this subtle, this little known white supremacist
movement UH called the Sovereign Sheriff's Movement that believes, based
on this interpretation of a white supremacist manifesto from the
sixteen hundreds, that the sheriffs have to the ultimate authority
in America. That's who was That was one of the

(33:56):
groups that started the Capta riots at the Capitol. That
was one of the groups that they would feared would
RAI rise up if Donald Trump wasn't reelected. And this
sheriff's group is that's why these sheriff groups are backing
Tim Scott, because it's about white supremacy. It is not
about policing. Right if you look back when UH Senator

(34:17):
Jeff Sessions went and talk to them and told them
that they are the backbone of the Anglo Saxon law
enforcement in America, this is what this is all about.
So we have to know that Tim Scott is not
arguing against Democrats. Tim Scott is ultimately arguing against what
Tim Scott created. I mean, whether here's what, here's what

(34:41):
Michael wrote, that is just hilarious. He says more than
a year ago, Scott's own deputy chief of Staff, Alyssa
Lee Richardson, told the Route that reducing funding to police
department was a quote complicated mechanism that we had to

(35:05):
create to hold every agency accountable. In the bill, under compliance,
it says ineligibility for funds for any fiscal year beginning
after the date of enactment of this Act. A state
that fails to comply with Subsection AID shall be subject

(35:28):
to a ten percent reduction of the funds that will
otherwise be allocated for that fiscal year to the state.
What the hell is the difference between that and what
Democrats have in the bill. I don't think there is
a difference or distinction between the two. Uh. It amounts

(35:52):
to defunding. If you don't comply with what's laid out
for you to comply with, you get defunded. But you know,
to Michael's point with Scott, no no no no no
no no no no no no no no no no
no no no no. I gotta stop you now, I
gotta stop, you know, but you're not the def You're
not defunded. No, Defunded means you don't get no. This
is what defund it means. Defunded means my mom and

(36:15):
daddy picked my mom and daddy paying my rent at
the ass they say, I'm stopped paying your rent. That's defunded.
Now Mom and daddy say I must pull back ten
percent of your rent. Hell, they're still paying ninety so
I ain't defunded. Defunded to me means we're taking all

(36:35):
your money. This is a ten percent reduction that means
you don't get ninety. It was it was legislation that
moved in the direction of defunding. But ultimately, what you have, man,
is Tim Scott needing to make a stand in the
aftermath of all the tragedies we've seen in the history,
the entire history of policing in this country and its

(36:55):
roots and foundation in white supremacy. Here is a tunity
for a black man, innocent to stand up for his people.
And then you just don't see it happening. And I
would go further. Uh, as much work has been put
into this federal bill, and to Sheryl's point, it is
just a federal bill, although the utility of that is
always as a model for those states that can be

(37:18):
pushed in the direction of reform. I would just like
to see a more aggressive posture from every black elected
official up there in terms of levergy the power that
they do have. You know, if the Congressional Black concles,
for example, me and my colleagues talk about this all
the time throughout some ultimatums, there are a significant percentage

(37:38):
of the voting body of Congress. If they collectively as
a body said, you know what, and we don't get
what the hell we want in this building. We don't
get you know what we need and what we're asking for,
you won't get anything else on your side. We will
let the whole thing just like that's what the Republicans do.
They we will burn this whole ship out if if

(38:01):
you all don't meet us halfway and they keep pulling
a weaker, less aggressive party away from the will of
the majority of people in the country. We all want
to see a remade criminal justice system, not just reform.
I think this whole system needs to be remade. But
we will get nowhere near that with people like Tim
Scott and others in positions of leadership who don't have

(38:23):
the will to exercise the power that they have. I
still say, based on other situations that I've seen Tim
Scott operate in separate and apart from police issues, the
brother just looks like he's got handlers. To me, I
don't know him as well as you do. That's what
I see. Here's my here's my dear, Cheryl. Okay, said

(38:43):
Tim Scott. Why don't you, before you talk talk about
what them should do. Why don't you center, Tim Scott,
put all the law enforcement groups in a room and say,
I need y'all to agree on what all y'all gonna
support before we move forward. Because see this whole most
support oh the shared disagrees. So there for I am

(39:05):
moving forward. Now that's called you in search of excuse. Cheryl, Well,
this is just a way to muddy up the waters
and confuse people who aren't really paying attention and who
aren't savvy. But like I said at the very beginning,
at the end of the day, this is about police accountability.
That's what this Justice and Reform Bill Act was all about.
That was supposedly the purpose behind it. And we know

(39:26):
that politicians who look like me, skin folk, are not
interested and don't have the appetite has read it said
to do the right thing. Even Cliburn majority with Clyburn,
was talking in the very beginning about, well, this is
a good bill, you know, and I think we should
pass it, even though it has no teeth, even though
it doesn't do anything to deter bad behavior, to stop

(39:48):
officers from killing black folks at will. He said, well,
it's a good bill. I mean it's not perfect, So
let's just go ahead and take this good bill not
having qualified immunity, on the table until we can talk
about a better, more perfect bill. That will never happen
because by and large, police administrators, police union's FOP, whatever

(40:10):
you want to call them, do not want their officers
to be held accountable. Scott said, well, we won't hold
the officers accountable, but maybe we might include the agency
being held accountable. If you do that, what have you
taught that officer? We have been the example of Derek
Chauvin eighteen personnel complaints. He hadn't learned nothing because he
hadn't been held accountable. And so this is problematic for

(40:32):
me and Michael. Here's what I understand. First of all,
I cannot stand weak responses. How on the hell send
the court Booker and the Democrats just didn't quote what
you what you put together. They had to know that beforehand.

(40:54):
The moment send the court book got asked, he should
have said, well, I would really like a SENTI Scott,
the police got fire and discover the old state Tim Scott,
and then quote this. See that they they allowed Centor
Tim Scott to go and face the nation say all
this sort of stuff, uh established and control the narrative

(41:16):
without saying Senor Tim Scott himself previously supported cutting funds,
but states that did not comply. Right, they should have
first of all, they should have you know, when they
started negotiations, they should have started with the point that
we have to see how many black people the Republicans
are going to let the police killed. Right, that should

(41:37):
have started the negotiations. And at every point, right they
should have said, we are taking the Republican ideas, We're
taking this Tim Scott idea, right this because they knew,
they should have known from the history of the Republican
Party that the Republicans would try to twist this idea
whatever they tried to do, into something that was bad,

(41:59):
something that was defunding the police. But again, I can't
understand why no Democrats come forward now and said, Hey,
the whole stuff that he's talking about defunding, that was
his idea. He came up with that. Like, we agree
with it because it's a pretty good idea if you
think about it. But it came from Tim Scott. So
if Tim's if if that is reducing funds by Timplecent

(42:22):
is defunding police, then Tim Scott came up with the
idea for defunding to the police. So everybody giving my hand,
and that's what they should be doing. That's how they
should be messaging messaging it. But the more important part
is that almost all of these things that we've discussed
right about, you know this the legislation about the rules

(42:43):
that should be given out for the grants, none of
that is legislating. Like the d o J, which is
an executive level department. We could just change how those
things those money is given out. President Biden could do that,
the d o J could do that, the Attorney General
could do that. And so it like we're going through
all these complicated mechanisms. When the Democratic Party, if if

(43:05):
if Joe Biden had the impetus and the will, he
could do it on his own for most of these things. Right,
this is really qualified. Community is the only thing that
he really couldn't touch. But all the rest of this stuff.
We're discussing this when your body could have did that
on this first day. That's what that Trump executive order
has done. And and Biden still hasn't resended that. Folks. Um, Look,

(43:32):
we're gonna keep pressing this thing because in MAFRICD I'm
about to see and I'm about to see it. In fact,
I'm about to seeing Michael's pace to center Tim Scott
right now, and I'm like, dude, I need you to
explain yourself. I need you to explain how all of
a sudden you're complaining about something proposed. I can't wait
to get what the answer is. I'm sitting to his
staff as well, Reddy Huss and Cheryl Dorrison. Michael Harry,
I totally appreciate youa on the show having this conversation.

(43:54):
Thanks a lot. Thanks for having all right wrong. See
the reason why this is VI. I'm gonna get our
parents on, so y'all let me know when they're on
as soon as possible to read the reason we have
to keep doing this. It's because I told you all
my position, my philosophy as a journalist has always been,

(44:16):
if you do good, I'll talk about your If you
do bad, I'll talk about you. At the end of
the day, I'll talk about you. It's always in my position.
I've never changed and I won't change from it. What
I'm not going to do, though, is be a damn
fool at the rest of these mainstream media people who

(44:39):
allow these Republicans to come on TV and office skate,
makeup stuff, live, spend their way out. I need to know,
Margaret Brennan on Face the Nation, why didn't you have
this research that Michael put Michael had m all the

(45:02):
staff was y'all got? How is it that you didn't
ask him this? Trey Gudi, you had Tim on Fox News.
We know why you didn't do it. Jake Tapper should
have had it, asked the Syndacore booker, Chuck Todd, what
the hell you the political director of NBC News, How

(45:25):
the hell you didn't have this? Y'all let him come
on the show and make the allegation all deals wanted
to defund the police, and no, I wasn't gonna support
you know, cutting funds when you proposed it. No, no,

(45:46):
you're not going to do this if it was true
that Democrats were doing this and you never proposed it,
and I are out, okay, but sioutists got you proposed

(46:07):
doing what you now criticize. Own up to it, admit it.
It's in the language. But that's what happens when folks
play games because you know what, they don't expect you

(46:30):
to know. But y'all, damn sure expect those of us
in the media to do the damn research to check
the backstory. And unfortunately, there are too many folks in media,
mainstream media, who only care about inviting the same voices

(46:53):
back again and again and again, as opposed the challenging
them with truth and integrity. Richard Koba Blackhomen's use Jones
is right now and not the grad car the proper
and Patrol America said is Howard University. Gregg, I'll start
with you. Oh well, I'm I was waiting, nothing's gonna

(47:24):
I'm still no, no, no, no, I'm just I'm just
I'm just I'm just bringing you to the floor. Oh no, brother,
I've been watching the whole kind We've both been watching
the whole conversation, and so UM, I think there's a
fundamental misunderstanding at the center of this broth. Brother Dorsey
and my friend Mike Harriet brought it up. In my mind,
this has nothing to do with police reform or police anything. Really.

(47:47):
This is about control now. The only thing that has
changed since uh, since you Scott introduced that bill, the
Walter Scott Notification Act that UH he folded in as
his opening bid and the Justice Stack, as Mike wrote about,
the one thing that has changed is the White Nationalist
Party is no longer in control of the federal government.
This is all about the Republican Party. There's a fundamental

(48:12):
misunderstanding about where we live. I'm encouraged by all of
this because we are closer now to that period you're
always talking about reconstruction period of nineteenth century then we've
been at any time since Reconstruction, including the nineteen sixties.
Why do I say that the white nationalists UH in
this country and they've been primarily clustered in the South,

(48:32):
although not exclusively. This is the attitude of white nationalism
towards the federal government. They will either control the federal
government or they will force the federal government to acquiesce
in what they are doing. This is the basis of federalism,
which is why Scott brought it up. The basis of
federalism for white nationalism is you either let us do

(48:52):
what we want to do, or we use the federal
mechanism to do what we want to do. So when
Tim Scott says that this UH activity would defund the police,
he's not wrong in the sense it would diminish federal
resources to the police. But what he proposed when the
white nationals went charge of the federal government would rely
on the white nationals in charge of the federal government

(49:13):
allowing the state and local authorities to get their money anyway.
But now that now that the white nationals are not
in control of the federal government, he's worried that the
federal government might actually execute what he proposed when there
was less of a chance of them doing that. Now
it may sound crazy, but please, we have to understand

(49:36):
the context for this. There is not a moment, and
I would invite anyone who can show me something different.
In fact, we're just talking to my law students last night. Uh,
there's not a moment in the history of this country
when white nationalism hasn't been either in control of the
federal government or allowed to do what they want by
the federal government. The three Fugitive Slave at seventeen eighty

(49:56):
seven Northwest Ordinance eighteen twenty Compromises of eighteen eighteen fifty
the Fugitive Slave at the federal government gave cover to
the damn white nationalists in the South, and that led
to dread Scott in eighteen fifty seven, where the Supreme
Court basically federalized blackness and said there's no place you
are safe. By the way, these bills against abortion in

(50:18):
Texas and other places in Mississippi, their move is to
get the federal government to acquiesce. So if you think
you can go over the board from Texas getting abortion
now when the Supreme Court outlaws that they're going to
do for abortion what they did for slavery with dread
Scott eighteen sixty five to eighteen seventy seven was the
small window when there was a chance to change this project,

(50:40):
because what it dread Scott lead to the damn Civil War,
and that's where we're headed. After that was over, the
North may out and allow them to do what they
wanted to. I'm saying, what what tim Scott is doing
right now is being the front man for white nationalism,
that is saying, we are going to control this government
or we're gonna make I'll do what you wants to do. Well.

(51:04):
I think that Republicans have the advantage here because Republicans
are completely untethered by the truth, by reality, by any
kind of conviction moral core. And that's what Tim Scott
has demonstrated and equivocally. And it's also clear that you
can't negotiate with terrorists. In order for the Democrats to
get anything done, they're going to have to go at
it alone. This notion that there's going to be bipartisan

(51:27):
support for something as contentious as police reform is absurd.
And now with the ship that we've seen from the
what people have called the racial reckoning last year to
now where crime is up throughout the country, there's even
less of an appetite for Republicans to even pay lip
service to any kind of police reform. And that's why,
as Karen Bass, our Congressman Karen Bass played out last week,

(51:47):
the Republicans and even signing up to Trump's executive order
to to codifying that into law. And so I think,
you know, when it comes to this police justice and
policing reform at I think that it just shows how
big of a hell or how steep of a challenge
Democrats are going to have in and explaining why they

(52:08):
didn't get this done because nobody cares. Voters do not
care about Senate procedure. They don't care about this person
flip flopping on their views, particularly the person that's an
opposite party. They only care about what you get done.
And so you know, perhaps there are some things that
can be done through executive order, but this is gonna
just end up being another alm the Democrats column unless
they figure out to do something about this filibus. The

(52:30):
one other thing that I will say is I just
want to address something that was said about the CBC
and you know, them wielding their power. I think it
should be clear that, I mean, the CBC is a
very poperable voting block in the House of Representatives. There
are only two people in the CBC on the Senate side,
and so um I think that it's a little misleading
to try to suggest that they can just blow this

(52:51):
whole thing up when all these things are passing in
the House. The George Pary Justice and Policing Act has
passed in the House. There are a number of very
major legislations that's passed in the House. So I think
that this shouldn't revert to some sort of old This
is on black people. No, this is on the entire
Democratic Party to figure out what to deal with mansion
and sentiment. Anybody else is tied in behind them in
regards to filip us to reform Alright, folks, let's go

(53:15):
to us and breaking news out of Tennessee where a
Tennessee State Senator Trina Robinson was found guilty on four
counts of fraud. Evidently two week long trial. You might
remember we discussed earlier this week when they judged throughout
fifteen of the twenty counts. But she's found guilty today
on four of those counts, not guilty on one of
those counts. Uh. Senator Robinson joins us right now along

(53:36):
with her attorney, Janica White. Glad they have both of
you here. Obviously, Senator you you had to have to
be disappointed with the verdict by by the jurors here. Um,
what what do you make of the prosecutors coming at
with you with twenty charges alleging that you were misusing

(53:57):
you for personal use uh. And for Janika um, what
exactly were the charges that she was found guilty of
and how much money we're talking about? Was it? Was? It?
Was it accounting? Was it UH? Fouling? Deadline? Exactly? What
was it? Well? It was that's first correct that this
started as a forty eight count indictment um and after

(54:21):
multiple motions, was then reduced to a twenty count indictment,
and then the court granted a judgment of acquittal on
fifteen of those counts. Initially, the government was maintaining and
accused Senator Robinson of stealing and instilling, embezzling, converting, misapplying

(54:41):
six hundred thousand dollars in grand funds. After the judgment
of acquittal, we were down to two counts of wire
fraud totally three thousand, four hundred eighty four dollars and
three counts um of wire fraud as it pertained to
a performance report that testimony showed was completed by administrative

(55:03):
assistance within the office. And also the testimony showed that
there was absolutely no need for Senator Robinson to change
any numbers on this particular port report one because the
report was not at all related to funding and too,
because she actually met not only met the expectations under
the grant, but she exceeded those expectations UM under the grant,

(55:25):
So there was absolutely no need for any changes to
be made to these reports. Um, we're just very disappointed
and we really, I just really don't understand what was
considered back there to come to this, to this conclusion. Robson, Um,
your yes, go ahead, Okay, So ro let me let

(55:46):
me rewind. So in February of twenty the federal government
rated my home, my school, my residents in Nashville, as
well as another business. They took everything that they could
take out of our school. They took everything they could
take from my home and plastered across but let me
go back again. They showed up to my doorstep with

(56:08):
the media inte. They plastered across the screen that I
stole six hundred thousand dollars in federal grant funds, of
which I've always maintained that I am innocent of that.
I would never do something like that. We get to trial.
From this forty eight count indictment. We got down to
thirty one counts, then we got to twenty counts because
the government felt like they were losing their case, so

(56:30):
they added three more counts, saying that I submitted reports
to the federal government to misrepresent information that didn't even
need to be misrepresented. We were doing well under the grant.
We got nothing but accolades from our grant officer. Never
got any warning whatsoever. Actually the investigation started in from

(56:50):
their documentation, but the government that get involved until twenty nineteen. Meanwhile,
the health Care Institute was funded every year, every year,
rolling from teen. They gave us money every year. But
they said that I was committing a crime of stealing
government grand funds. So then we get to trial, there's

(57:13):
no proof. They offered no proof. The only thing they
offered wasn't for ensic accounting. That got up on that
stand and with every transaction said she bought these with
grant funds. She brought these with grant funds, offered no
forensic accounting. We got down to the end, the judge
had to strike her testimony, But still the jurors left
with that in their mind. Even though we've gotten to

(57:35):
three thousand, four dred and eighty four dollars that now
they're alleging that I stole from my own business. That's
where we are. What is the impact on your UH
with with these UH four conventions? What was the impact
on your state senatey Um? That is yet to be determined.

(57:57):
Role And of course the process is not over. We
are still moving forward to ask the judge to reconsider
what has happened before the jury. We do not think
that the jury had a full picture of what was
actually happening. This was a very complicated case that I
don't think a layman or the average person would be
able to understand without thorough background. UM. And so we're

(58:17):
still gonna fight uh what the jury has has let
out unique a final comment, Yeah, we were going to
file a motion for a new trial, UM. And if
that doesn't work, we have a couple of other avenues
to pursue. UM. It's of course not what we wanted,
but as she said, we've been trying a long, tough,

(58:38):
rough role here. When you have a prosecution that started
with this presumption of guilt without any opportunity of participation
in it to be able to explain anything, say anything.
And I think this prosecution is most telling when you
UM say it's in defense of a theft from a
government organization, as a result of a grant, and when

(59:01):
the entity that was giving the grant, that was in
constant communication with her was not the complainant even in
court came in still saying, you know, this was a
great organization, successful doing what it was supposed to do.
We were in constant communication. Um, this place was thriving.
The project officer was um excited about the growth, impressed

(59:22):
with the growth. So it's just a really unique situation.
And even the statute that this was charged under six
six six. If you go you can't find another case
charged anything. You cannot find it. You cannot find another
case even similar to this one on the books we've researched,
we've tried, you cannot find it in this context. And
the judge rightly pointed out that throughout this process the

(59:45):
government's theory of prosecution has changed many times, because again
it was with the purpose of an intent of saying,
we're gonna find whatever we can after we sit through
these thousands, hundreds of thousands of documents, we're gonna get
to whatever we can find. And at the end of
the day they found an email and we got down
to three eighty four dollars and errors on a report

(01:00:08):
that she didn't even complete. UM, so well, folks. Uh.
We appreciate both of you, Janka and um said Roberts
joining with us. You could have talked to a lot
of folks, uh, and you only are submitted to an
interview with us, and we curely appreciate you joining with

(01:00:28):
this exclusive conversation. Thank you so very much. Uh. And
we'll be following the next steps in this case. I
appreciate it. Thank you so very much, folks. Gotta go
to Thank you very much. Gotta go to a quick break, folks,
and we come back our Tech talk segment. We talked
about Black Start Network owning African Americans owning, not waiting
for somebody else to give us a shot. That's what

(01:00:49):
cav on stage is done. You've seen this TikTok video,
You've seen him on Twitter roll. He's next right here
on Roller Martin Unfiltered on the Black Start Network. Before
Tills murdered, we saw struggle for civil rights as something
grown up stain. I feel that the generations before us
have offered a lot of instruction. Organizing is really one

(01:01:16):
of the only things that give me the sanity and
makes me feel purposeful when Tills murdered. Yeah, that's what
attracted our to jacket. Hi, I'm Dinny and Green. Everybody
just your man Fred Hammond and you're watching Roland Martin
my man unfiltered. All right, folks, So last week a

(01:01:59):
lot of black people who are angry and upset that
you didn't have any African Americans when any of the
acting categories at the end of people were talking on
Instagram and Twitter and all over the place. Well, Comedian
Cavil on stage is like, why y'all all do all
this mentioning in them own and because trying to sit
here and look at white validation. He said, if you
create your own, you can celebrate your own. You dropped

(01:02:21):
the video. A lot a lot of people talking about that,
and he said that's exactly what he did. I know
the feeling, because that's what the hell I did. This
Right now is keV on Stage as the founder of
keV on Stage Studios. What's up, doc, Hey, how you
doing rolling? Thank you so much for having me quick
apology to the people in your life chat. My stage

(01:02:42):
was so excited that we had this opportunity. We went
in there and put a whole bunch of emojis. They
were like, hey, man, we're trying to we're trying to
talk to rolling. So I apologize that the people watching
and we show love and they was like, hey, don't
worry about that. North, all right, don't everybody. Look, folks
talk all the time. It's all good. That's why we

(01:03:04):
have folks communicating. It's all right the thing that you're doing.
And in fact, Recy's on our panel. And she and
I talked about them beforehand, uh, because she's like, you
gotta get KEIV on the show. But it's it's it
really boils down to not not trying to sit here
and beg somebody else please, pretty please, can you give
me a show? Can you give me an opportunity? Versus

(01:03:25):
saying you know what, I'm good. We can take the
same technology, use our smarts and create our own and
then control it absolutely. I think we you know what
you're doing with this show right now. This is a
national news show, this is a black owned network. Like
you know, as people, we have to take our our

(01:03:47):
future in our hands, but we also have to support
the people who are doing it as well. I think
a lot of times, you know, we get into the
if it ain't this, it ain't that, it ain't real
and things like that, if it ain't seeing in like
to me, this is more important, like people like re see.
This is how I get my tunity. These people like you,
you black people end up checking for black people way
before national news does, way before anybody's paying attention. So

(01:04:07):
why are we you know, why are we looking for
approval when we can create and distribute to our people
right there? No middleman, no filter, no showrunner who doesn't
understand black culture telling you or you've got to appease
Middle America. You know, any times I've heard what does
Middle America think about this? Black people live in Middle America?
When do you Black people live everywhere in the state Louis, Minneapolis, Chicago.

(01:04:31):
That's when they say fly over states Middle America. They
are not talking about black people. No, it's a it's
a code word to say, what do white people think
about this? But some of my biggest supportance in Middle America.
Black people are everywhere in the United States, Seattle to
Miami to rich and Tall, Kansas. So and we watch

(01:04:52):
stuff we and we we've often you know, we had
no choice. Honestly, before we didn't have a lot of
black on networks. We didn't have a lot of people
who are creating their own stuff, you know, And now
we have the Internet, which is the great equalizer, and
it allows people like you and I to create and
distribute directly to our audience. Right. We use platforms like
YouTube and Facebook and things like that to get our

(01:05:12):
word out, but at the end of the day, we
own our own platforms. So if those platforms decide we
don't want this anymore, we don't care about this, our
album is not gonna uh push this anymore, then we
have our own platform that we control. And that's kind
of the main reason I did this, because there's been
times as a YouTuber where YouTube decide we're gonna change
focus and what was a huge business model became zero

(01:05:33):
and I'm like, I didn't even so no, no, no, no,
And I want you to pause right there because I
need people people watching to understand what he just said.
When they change the algorithm, I mean all of y'all listening,
y'all hear me, and always talk about the business of
the business. When they change the algorithm, you could be

(01:05:55):
doing eighty ninety a hundred thousand dollars a month and
all of a sudden and a shift. It drops the
thirty forty. So that means here, you built a staff,
you're paying people, So now you gotta go find seventy
grands somewhere else per month to keep paying your staff.
And so we talk about creating your own app. Folks,

(01:06:18):
this is no different. I mean, everybody listening cav on
Stage Studio, Black Star Network is the exact same as
Fox Nation. This new CNN Plus Discovery app is no
different than Peacock or It's the it's the same technology.

(01:06:38):
The difference is we own it. And not only do
we own it, Kevin, this is Kevin is people don't
understand we can because we own the content. We now
have a library, we now can license the content. We
as someone now, hey, I want to use this in
a documentary. Okay, this one's gonna cost you. Whereas at
TV one they say, bro, want to use your interview

(01:07:01):
with the TV one and coming roll. That's what people
don't understand about the business of the business. Yeah, and
I think there's a couple of times in YouTube Logan
Power for example, I don't know if you remember this,
he made a video and the suicide Force in Japan,
everybody suffered when he made that mistake. AD dollars went
down for everyone. A year or two ago. YouTube decided
that family friendly content, um, they weren't gonna be able

(01:07:23):
to run ads on that. So people who were making literally,
like you said, hundreds of thousands of dollars a month
went down to a hundred two hundred. YouTube decided there's
no more comments on those videos, therefore there's no community.
I remember my comments got turned off about three or
four years ago. The community was gone instantly. So I
I don't want to have some other company have control

(01:07:43):
over what I say. And I use their platforms to
to promote to mind, but I'm using them as a
means to an end. My My ultimate hope is that
I don't need them at all. Right right now, the
Kevin Stage Studio streaming service is smaller than my other platforms,
but I'm slowly getting the word out to people like
we we we can either complain about the status quo,

(01:08:03):
or we can decide I'm gonna invest uh in in
something that I want to see. If you want to
invest in a person who's decided I'm gonna make content
for black people, I'm gonna highlight black women I'm gonna
let them create their own shows. You can see that
on on the app. You can see that I'm a
man of my word, that the team is here. We
own this studio that I'm in right now. We can
we can license our own shows that we created in

(01:08:24):
the studio we own. We let people use this and
we charge them for production, so we own it. One
the only people that we cater to is the audience,
and that is black people. That we have a saying
it's for black people anyway, because I don't even want
somebody who it's not intended for to criticize it, Like
if you don't get this joke? Because I remember rolling
I was pitching somebody this show that we are now making, uh,

(01:08:46):
and he was like, you know, I don't think. I
don't think black people will get this. This is a
middle age white man who never experienced anything I was
talking about. It's basically my life story. He told me,
I don't think black people are gonna get this, And
I was like, how do you know? How would you
know that you what black people? You live in earlier
inn agent in l A. You have no idea what

(01:09:07):
black people will get, But they're the gatekeepers they're the
ones that decide whether you make it or not. So
I decided, with the support I have from the stage
crew and my Patreon and people who have bought the
app or bought T shirts and merchant, I saved all
that money and we create our own content and we'll
let them be the judge. And then I guarantee you
what happens is once it pops off, now you license it.
Now we can put that money back into the ECO
system and they'll be like, oh, we knew all along.

(01:09:28):
Watch two or three years from now when Roland Martin, Oh,
I've been been new about rolling, but I see what
people say on Twitter or you ain't even on seeing
any more. So you are in a better position now
than you've ever been on somebody else's. I don't think
people understand you don't need seeing it, You are your
own seeing it. You're just you. They do, And what

(01:09:50):
they don't realize is what they don't understand is I
got I gotta I gotta call. Two weeks ago, they
want to bring some black media influencers to Dubai and
they were like, yo, h Rolling roseby one of the people,
and I said, sure, let's go. When I had the
Liberian Ministers on a few weeks ago they're gonna be

(01:10:11):
celebrated their two hundred anniversary. I said, Yo, we're gonna
bring the show Liberia. Now, everybody listening, I don't want
everybody under saying that. If I say we're gonna bring
the show Liberia, I don't have to go ask somebody permission,
because guests and there's no disrespect. The said no disrespect
to anybody black at CNN, in the CNBC, Fox News, ABC, NBC, CBS.

(01:10:37):
But the reality is this Joan Reid, Don Lemon, Robin Roberts,
you can name anymoy They got to go ask somebody,
can I Ken? What Kevin is saying is keV doesn't
have to go ask somebody. I don't have to ask somebody.

(01:10:57):
So now and we can and then we say, you
know what, We're gonna go live here. We're gonna broadcast
live for four hours. We don't have an exact one,
but your show is only two. No, we're gonna go
forward people. That's the difference of owning Yes. I do
want to make one clarifying statement, roll and I do
have to ask one person. That's my wife. She's the

(01:11:18):
CFO she do say whether I can do it, but
I don't have to ask nobody else. If me and
my wife agreed that we can go to be clear,
Look I got that's because I got a wife. But
I ain't got to ask Jackie something saying see we

(01:11:38):
got see we see we got lanes. I don't even
ask my CFO because see I checked the bank account
every day. See I gotta see a foe. But trust me,
Road knows how much money is in there. I know
how much money is coming. And so that's what we
do now, Jackie, she see a minister. She prayed, she

(01:12:02):
prayed folk away, she prayed folk to come, She prayed
for money to come. But I ain't got to ask nobody.
But it's all good. Do I do want to get
my panel? He asked the question, I'm gonna go to Recy.
You gotta get Kim on the show. You gotta get
Kid on the show. Uh rec Hey, calv thank you.

(01:12:28):
So I don't want to thank you because you shouted
me out before and you were the first person that
I that I saw from a national platform was like,
look at what Calm's doing. So I've never got a
chance to thank you face to face. So I want
to say thank you, well, thank you very much. Next
time came you tag me in the video so I
can get something. You reposted my video and y'all didn't

(01:12:48):
get nominated for the ACP Image Awards because that was
just tagged me. Next time. That's I got you, I
got you. But um, I just I'm a huge fan.
My husband is an even bigger fan. He's a subscriber
to keV on Stage Studios. He watches all your stuff.
We watched To Keep Your Distance comedy every time. Yes,

(01:13:11):
we watched every single two every two weeks. That's when
it was not It was all kind of stuff. I says, Okay,
I look a cat on stage. But anyway, what I
wanted to ask you though, and I think Rolling can
understand with his launch of black Star Network, you all
have so many followers on your different platforms, but it's
hard to convert those followers. Now for black Star Network

(01:13:36):
gets free for yours, it's a subscription. How do you
think we move the needle so that people who really
support you, die hard fans recognize the value of going
through your own black owned platforms as opposed to well
it's convenient. I'm already scrawling on Twitter. I'm already scrolling

(01:13:56):
on here. You know, how do you balance between exclusive,
con hit and still trying to rule people in so
that you can keep your name buzzing and your brand building. Absolutely,
I think that's a great question, and it's a two
part uh difficulty. The first part is these platforms don't
want people to leave their platform and go anywhere. So

(01:14:17):
the Instagram algorithm is designed to keep you on Instagram.
So by default, if I'm saying, hey, leave Instagram and
go to Kevin Stage Studios, and it realizes people are
clicking off of my video and going somewhere else, it's
gonna immediately suppress that video. Same thing with Twitter, Facebook,
because you are now, by default, doing the opposite of
what that platform wants you. So my other videos that

(01:14:39):
are designed for you to consume on those platforms, they
say people are watching these, stay on. So it's nearly
impossible without using paid media, which is what they want
you to do. They want you to spend hundreds of
thousands of dollars using their ad services. Now they'll run
your ads because you're gonna If they're gonna lose a dollar,
they're not gonna lose two so you're gonna pay them.
If they're gonna leave the platform, it's go if you

(01:15:00):
pay them. So that's one thing. And the second thing
is as black people, we have to value the things
that black people make a lot of times. The reason
we're frustrated with the Grammys and the Oscars and all
that is because we have decided this is the most
valuable award, and being on Netflix is the most valuable platform,
and and this and that. But black folks could make

(01:15:20):
anything popular. When we all was wearing a k Swiss,
k Swiss is popping, air Force once is popping, we
all drinking Alazai. Alizai is now making billions of dollars.
If we decided forget all that, We're gonna decide that
this is cool and we're doing this now, it would
change immediately. So I think there's it's gonna take a
lot of time, it's gonna take a lot of resources.
I'm gonna have to, you know, have a lot of
marketing budget, and unfortunately we are a very small company

(01:15:43):
right now. So the marketing budget we have right now
is just making the content. But the ideology has to shift.
If we think, as black people, this is just as dope,
and and it's on me to make content that it
is just as dope, so they can be like, well, shoot,
this looks just like something i'd watch on another platform.
And I'll do my part if you guys will consume
and do your part and say, you know what, Kevi,

(01:16:03):
I'm gonna give you my five instead of And I'm
not saying cancel Netflix and all them, but maybe just one,
you know, maybe come off Discovery Plus and and come
over to me. I still I still got Netflix, you know.
So if we do those two things will have have success.
But at the bottom line is people like you receive
advocating for me, rolling bringing me on. This is this
is the most, uh, the biggest platform we've had. This

(01:16:27):
is the biggest time we've been able to talk about
what we were doing. So we're very appreciative of that.
And and and that's how it works. And I need
people to understand what KIVI was talking about. How they
suppressed I'm gonna tell you all right now we know
for a fact, and I'll call them out and I
keep calling them out. Facebook is suppressing our live notifications.

(01:16:49):
I have one point three million Facebook followers. How do
we know they're suppressing it because my digital director does
not get the live notifications when when y'all see the
countdown clock and we go live. The reason we do
that because we go live on YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Slash,
Periscope and then also Instagram, and so we want to

(01:17:09):
give people a chance to connect. He doesn't get a
lot notification and he's the one who turned the damn
button on, and I'll eat the Facebook. Oh there's a book.
There's a bug in our system. No, here's what they
want to do. What Facebook was trying to force me
to do. Facebook is trying to force me to pay
to boost to people who already follow me, who've already

(01:17:34):
clicked live notification. Yes, sir, So you're gotta understand how,
and so that's that's why. Right now, So it's three thousand,
four hundred and eighty seven people who are watching us
on YouTube if I go over to Facebook right now. Uh,
just so y'all understand, three thousand, four hundred and eighties
other people are watching us right now on YouTube. We

(01:17:54):
have eight hundred thousand, uh subscribers on YouTube. First of all,
that's attally a great conversion rate when you actually break
it down right now, on Facebook, there are three There
are three hundred and twenty two people watching on the
Facebook right now, and I have one point three million
followers right that folks, and so and and so. What

(01:18:19):
I need to understand, So what what Kevin is doing
is app and I was on the phone with a
video earlier. We've actually surpassed I think fifteen thousand, and
they're like, yo, fifteen thousand downloads in less than a month.
That's damn good. But people have to understand is we
want to have fifty thousand by December thirty one. We

(01:18:39):
want to have a hunt because when we're able to
now have fifty thousand, a hundred thousand, two thousand downloads,
then to Kev's point, we could begin to migrate folks
away from these platforms. Like he says, they don't like that,
but that gives us four more control and keV gets
to actually charge advertisers of premium. He could rec you

(01:19:00):
can run free role commercials. We can do the exact
listen to me people. We could do the exact same
thing that Peacock, that b et plus now all the
other apps can do. That's the difference. And so that's
that's why that's why this is by a grant car
your question? UM, thank you Roland, And I'm sitting here

(01:19:20):
taking notes. Brother, I'm sitting here listening because you know
you're building maroon spaces of my friend highly agreema cause
them liberated terror choice. So brother, Kevin is it's a
pleasure to hear you. Brother, and I just spoused you
on Twitter. You know, let me ask you. I mean, um,
and you've already kind of answered this. UM. But you know,
given that these things are aren't accidental, that they're curating

(01:19:43):
an audience, they're creating taste even as we create content,
how do you how do we break through, um, seizing
control of our own the way that we view the
world because this thing is being curated. We act like
it's our choice, but it's really being curated. And then
maybe just very quickly enrolling you. Actually you triggered this

(01:20:04):
question in my mind. How important is cooperation and networking
in moments like this and how important is it to
build that team together because individuals don't beat institutions. Absolutely,
I think, thank you so much for the question of
the first answer is there's no algorithm that can beat
you telling me you've got to watch this you gotta

(01:20:26):
download this. You're gonna love this. This is a show
I've been watching. There's no algorithm that can beat you
texting me a link and saying this is this shows
on this app. Check it out. It's worth the five
it's worth the fifty dollars. The algorithm can't beat somebody
who you trust telling you you gotta watch something. For example,
there's a show going viral on on Twitter called squid

(01:20:47):
Game on Netflix. Never heard of it, but I see
my friends, hey man, this squid Game thing is though
memes going about it. I mean, think about how many
times black Twitter alone has single handedly made a show popular.
I remember when bird Box came out, never heard of it,
didn't see a trailer anything. Sitting at my father in
law's house during Christmas, black Twitter starts sharing memes about
bird Box. It becomes a dominating platform topic. What do

(01:21:09):
I do? Yeah, we gotta check this bird Box thing out.
Everybody's talking about it. That's marketing that Netflix doesn't have
to pay for the same thing with the Popeye's Chicken sandwich,
and I'm a part of that. Everybody on Twitter is
talking about it. I go try and make a video
about it. Popeyees didn't spend one dollar just in black medio.
The earned media that companies get for free is you
couldn't pay for. You couldn't pay for the amount of

(01:21:32):
earned media that black people get just for talking about it.
So if we decided this is a topic of conversation,
I'm gonna check it out because I want to do this.
I'm tired of complaining about not being seen in these spaces.
I don't know how much more clear these white spaces
can make it that they don't care. They'll do enough
to appease us. They'll do enough, they'll get black presenters

(01:21:53):
and you nominate some people, maybe given award out too.
But when it comes to those most prestigious things and
them show running credits and then writing credits, they're not
gonna give those out by and large. And eventually, if
we decide, you know what, we don't care anymore, then
the value of those spaces decreases tremendously. But it takes
black people being like we now think this is cool
now when Tommy Hill figure, when black folks when I

(01:22:14):
was a kid said Tommy Hill figure is cool, it's
now cool. So, um, I was talking too much. I
forgot your your second question? Cooperation? Cooperation? Yes, so I'm sorry.
Go ahead, go ahead? No, no, go ahead, ahead, go ahead.
I was gonna say, I have a group of friends

(01:22:35):
who are just getting ready to launch their own streaming service,
and they reached out and asked me for advice on
how to For the last four or five months, I've
been basically consulting them for free. Why because I want
black people to win, and I don't want black people
to win. I don't want to win at the expense
of my people. And they have a bigger audience than me.
They're gonna they're gonna do better than me at the

(01:22:56):
jump and I love that. And one day we can
make a movie together there and pull our resources together,
the same way Adam Sandler and Judd Apatow they tagged
the same four. Hey y'all, let's do a movie together.
We'll put our own money in. That's the same thing
that I want to do. Tab another uh TA have
some other influence, Say ya, let's let's put fifty k
in each and make a micro budget film for two
d K and then let's license that for three million dollars,

(01:23:19):
split that money and then reinvest it and do another one,
and guess what we can do. Our our Napoleon Dynamites
are uh, I got the hook ups those low budget films.
Friday was a supremely low budget film for what it did.
And once black people start saying yo, if we actually
support them and buy that stuff, then they can make
better stuff. And then we can create our own little world,

(01:23:40):
in our own ecosystem of black creators, and you can
have people like me who you can trust that when
I say I'm gonna make some shows for black women,
you will see them. The first show we made on
the kel On Stage Studio streaming service, the first original
show we made was for a black woman. Since then,
we've had four or five and we got three or
four more in development that are slated to release at
the end of this year the topic next year. So

(01:24:01):
we want to see those things. It takes us saying
I support you. Here's fifty dollars take it for the year.
I trust you. I'm gonna buy merch. I'm gonna buy
your comedy show for all intensive purposes. All the money
earned goes right back into this. So if you support
me in any way, that's how you can support Thank
you well and the other thing is this here, here's
here's my philosophy, keV. Everybody can eat. It's enough out here.

(01:24:25):
I'm not I'm not gonna I'm not gonna see that.
I'm not gonna see it here and retweet something Kebs said,
because you know what, Uh that's I mean, no, No,
I'm just gonna know we all we all can do that.
And that's what we're talking about. Also, again, we have resources. Look,
I tell everybody we started, Hey, we couldn't afford the cannon.
See three hundreds held the body along with nine thousand

(01:24:48):
the lenses, not what another six eight thousand. We had
the Canada up right to the Canada XL four or
five four K cameras. Now we're on five can and
see three hundreds. Okay, So same thing. Office space that
we're building out, the ability to be able to rent
it out for other people. And when we building the
studio set this out of black lighting. Dude black, he

(01:25:09):
got paid, the engineers and control room black, they got paid. Uh,
everybody black got paid. That's so when you create something,
you also get to the side who you use as contractors.
And so a lot of people need need to legal
understand that but we are so we are so ingrained
when it comes to this, the notion of white validation

(01:25:31):
and white acceptance, that we degrade our own when we
are not just as good, we can't even be better.
Got the first time pandeling that the Pamela Hill as
just the professor of Social University of Texas at Arlington,
where I spoke last night. She also UH African American
studies there as well. Doctor here in your question for

(01:25:52):
camera stage, Hey, how are you doing? What's going? I'm good?
How are you? Nothing? Much? Yes? Wonder phone? Hey, thank
you brother for that, because it's so very important that
we understand what our power can be. And I appreciate you.
I'm going to make sure that my students know about you.
I'm gonna make that you follow you and thank you

(01:26:16):
purposely build. Yes, ma'am, thank you. That's it. You got
a question? She like, she just gonna yes, I do
my question? Can you hear me? Yes, ma'am, I can't
hear you. Yeah. My question is what advice can you

(01:26:36):
give me to share with my students, uh, particularly those
in African American studies of how they can be focused
enough to build their own Yeah. I think um, you
can follow in the similar footsteps that I had to
Roland's point, Um, this time that we're in, it's the
easiest time to create, uh. For the majority of my

(01:26:58):
business and almost all my videos are made with this iPhone, right,
I don't I didn't have money like like Roland said,
for a cannon or are your red? And Apple and
Android have made these phones great, so you know the
old adages. Use what you have. I built a lot
of this using my iPhone. Use those platforms that you
have until you can build your you know, your brand

(01:27:20):
up and then you start to say, hey man, this
is what we're doing over here. Once you get people
who support you, let him know what you're trying to do,
and the most important thing is to be authentic. I
think one of the reasons that we had a lot
of success over here is because I think the people
that support me, the stage crew that once who've joined
and watch live, especially from my Patreon, they are willing
to support monetarily and they'll pull up and support anything.

(01:27:42):
But I think it's come from me being a person
who is who I say I am. Same similar to
Rolling Rolling on on this show is pretty much the
same way he is on on Twitter the same way
as when I used to see them on tv. UM.
I think we people are past the age of a
carefully created brand, and people appreciate the authentic version of you.

(01:28:05):
I think people support that more and also have a story.
What are you trying to do? I asked Patreon for money,
asked them to increase their their their gift, and I
tell him what I'm doing with that. When I hired
a black woman as a co host, I say, I'm
gonna take a proportion of your money and give it
to her, and I'm gonna pay her above market. I'm
gonna pay her the same thing I pay a black
a black man, maybe even more. And people be like, Okay,

(01:28:28):
you know what, keV, I'm gonna trust you. And then
she goes out and buys the house and you're like, okay, damn.
Maybe keV really is a man of his words. So
I think, UM, all that goes into play. But at
the end of the day, start with what you have
and build what you can and as you grow it, No,
you have an exit plan. I've always known that eventually
I have to build something that's gonna go off of
these platforms because they rise and fall Vine came and went,

(01:28:50):
TikTok was musically now it's a huge thing of YouTube
has switched platforms three or four times. Clubhouse had a
rise and fall within the pandemic. It was the whole
thing for two or three months, and then people were
just like, I don't care anymore. And then or Twitter
created audio spaces and Facebook created their own competition at
the Clubhouse. So with all those things are gonna be

(01:29:11):
hard to compete with Silicon Valley. But if you talk
directly to your audience and give your audience exactly what
they need, you always have a chance to win. Absolutely.
For us, what what we're talking about and what Kid
just said that we talked about giving the opportunity was
perfect example that a lot of people were sitting there.
They were like, man, who this foul mouth as woman

(01:29:33):
always talking about Kamala Harris. And I was like, yo,
I said, these videos are hilarious. And I was people
going like, oh my god, You're not gonna have that
woman on your show. I was like, yeah, I am,
because I own this ship. Well again though, and that's

(01:29:55):
and and see and see cared what people don't what
people don't understand, And this is the last last point
to you. And here's a deal. I'm not tripped. I'm
not tripping, and I ain't got no problem with Tiffany
cross And on Satrity and when she says, who was
the first person to put me on on his panel
to talk about politics? It was Rolling Saturday Show. I'm

(01:30:19):
gonna be on her show on Saturday when I see
Angela Ryan Lara Coates when she said when Lark Coach,
When y'all see Lard Coach on CNN filling in guest
hosting asked her which show that she guests hosts? First
News one Now as when you see Neil Melika Henderson
hosting asked her what was the first TV show she

(01:30:41):
appeared on consistently? Roland Martins Washington watched Paul Butler's doing
Legal Analysis Getting Paid on MSNBC Washington. Watch as well
Gianna Carlwell on Fox newsboy put his ass on TV
until he's on News one Now. So the thing that
the thing is wey by creating and owning our platforms,

(01:31:03):
we are tapping into talent that they will never give
a shot to say, come show what you can do.
That's also why it matters absolutely. Final comment, thank you
so much for the opportunity and to the people who
are already supporting people watching now, um you you matter

(01:31:23):
that five or that fifty dollars a year, it is
going to be used. Well, we can either complain or
we can change. And I you know, the Kevin Stage
Studio streaming service is an opportunity to align your dollars
with your values. If you really believe that you want
black content to win, and you want to see black
content that represents the entire gamut of what black people

(01:31:45):
can be, everything from fantasy drama to to uh irreverent comedies,
all of that stuff, than then entrust black people to
create content that represents them, because when it represents me,
it will represent you. And I appreciate your support. Thank
you so much, Roland, thank you everybody on the panel
re see especially thank you stage crew, Patreon. I love

(01:32:05):
you all. Thank you guys so much. Alright, keV on stage,
I appreciate it. Folks. Download the app R download the app. Uh.
And he said, I'm gonna saying I'm gonna seeing you
some money, uh, because you're absolutely right, it's important, uh
and right every dollar matters. Uh. You know. One reason
is why I didn't set up Black Start Network as

(01:32:27):
a subscription service because there are a lot of people
who sent us one dollar who can't afford the monthly.
And I get it. Uh, And I said, so we're
gonna build it. Which is why am I, which is
why I'm out here kicking these advertisers asks and guess
what all y'all advertisers who gave oz all that money?
My numbers real? Oh, don't do it, don't do my

(01:32:52):
numbers are My numbers are real. I'm just singing, cavlank.
I appreciate that man. Thanks a lot. Thank you. Guys.
Have a great show, all right, Focus should have download
the app. Gotta go to the break. We come back.
We're gonna talk about dropping cannabis cases in Los Angeles.
And also Governor Gavin Newsom clears the way for a

(01:33:15):
prominent beach to be returned the family, the black couple
who was chased off that property decades ago. That's next
on Rolling Martin Unfiltered on the Black Star Network. Thank

(01:33:39):
you Roland Martin for always giving voice to the issues.
Look the Rolling Martin in the world winds to quote
Margarets Garby again, the video looks phenomenal. So I'm really
excited to see it on my big screen. Black media,
make sure that our story told. See this diference between
Black Star Network and black owned media and something like

(01:34:00):
seeing got It referred to the brilliance of Dr Carr
and to the brilliance of the Black Star Network. I
am rolling rolling all the way to be on the
show that you own, a black man owned the show,
and folks, Black Start Network is here a real revolutionary
right now. Roland was amazed on that. I can't command

(01:34:21):
you enough about this platform that you've created for us
to be able to share who we are, what we're
doing in the world, and the impact that we're having
on Let's be smart, bring your eyeballs home. You can't
be black owned media and be scared. Dig Hi, I'm

(01:34:46):
Eric Nolan, what's up y'all? Well back, I'm Chris at Michelle,
I'm Chiley Rose, and you're watching Roland Martin unfiltered. All right, folks,
some of y'all who love being stuck on spupil all
they're talking about. Man, this voting stuff doesn't matter. Actually

(01:35:07):
it does, especially when we elect district attorneys who are
not these hard asses who are all about crime and
lock them up. When you elect progressive d a s,
then you take you see what happens. What will they
happen in l A where they dismissed some sixty thousand
and sixty thousand UH cannabis cases. L A District Attorney

(01:35:31):
mood Uh moved to do that. And remember this was
this was the district attorney who used to be the
DA in San Francisco, comes to Los Angeles, beats Jackie Lacey,
who's the black d A. Now let me stop right
there again. White man becomes d A. He does what

(01:35:51):
the black DA would not do. Don't always get caught
up in if it's a black d A in Philadelphia,
the last black d A that was corrupt went to prison.
You got uh Krastner. First of all, you got down.
You now got a y d A, much more progressive.
And so I just want you all to understand why

(01:36:13):
we UH talk about that on the show. A lot
of people don't quite understand that. And so that's the
difference that took place in Los Angeles County when George
Gasson gas on one beating Jackie Lazy. Some of these
cases go back thirty years, turning us right now in
Felicia Carpohole from l A, the executive director of Social

(01:36:34):
Impact of Felicia. Glad to have you in rolling mard
unfiltered walk people through if I just set up there,
why this is so critically important, um, to have the
right d A in office? Um? Well, first, I want
to thank you so much Roland for having me here,
and I'm very excited and honor to be here. And

(01:36:56):
in terms of your question, UM and otters a lot.
We had engaged in conversations in the past about what
did it look what did it look like to actually
help remediate all of these cases and kind of just
fell flat. Um, this office was very, very different. Um.

(01:37:16):
Funny enough, on four twenty, I was on a panel
with uh d A Tiffany black New, this amazing black
woman who listened and went back and shared information with
her boss about me just having the audacity to ask. Um.
We had essentially known that Jackie Lacey had helped with

(01:37:39):
sixty six thousand removing convictions for sixty six thousand people,
and those of us who live in Los Angeles knew
that that number couldn't be real. And you know, it
became a very simple process in terms of I brought
up an article and the rest is history. We had
an active d a UM, active liaisons and his office

(01:38:02):
who were listening to the community, really wanting to hear.
So it's monumental about this is fifty eight thousand Angelino's
are going to be receiving not just their record expunge,
but their records sealed. And as you mentioned, it's going
to go back, you know, all the way to the seventies.
Twenty thousand of them have felony convictions for cultivation or sales, which,

(01:38:25):
as we know, just for anybody who's getting this kind
of legal relief, it's removing those forty eight thousand barriers
that exist across the country, uh five thousand specifically here
in Los Angeles that bar us from places like education, housing, employment, UM, licensing,
and the list goes on and on. So what's monumental

(01:38:47):
is that we found somebody who would listen and then
who did. Like when I tell everybody how fast it happened,
and sometimes I'm still pinching myself that we were able
to just challenge this District Attorney's office and that they
rose to the occasion. UM If that's what makes it
so monumental, it was just literally asking them doing their

(01:39:09):
job and coming back with oh, you're right, and then
putting everything else into action. And also what by doing this,
it clears up the opportunity of people, uh to actually
now jobs housing, because that criminal record was stopping them

(01:39:31):
from being a full citizen. Absolutely. I mean, that's what
was so crucial with all of this is that those barriers,
if we're talking about thirty or forty years, people have
grown accustomed to them. So this new lease on life,
this new ability to be able to navigate into spaces
that have barred us from participating in Like when we

(01:39:51):
think about these numbers specifically in Los Angeles, we already
recognize that a third of the people who've been arrested
for cannabis related conviction is are black. We've got another
fortent that are Latino. I mean, seventy of black and
brown bodies have specifically been targeted, and we wonder when
we look in the streets of l A and other places,

(01:40:13):
how did we get here. It's because of this over criminalization,
not specifically to cannabis, but across the board. So I'm
just honored to be able to do my little part
and contribute and be a part of this great amazing work, um,
not just with my nonprofit, but on the national level
with national expungement works and all of these amazing things.

(01:40:35):
I mean, we got to kick off this week of
Action and Awareness on our fourth year with just hitting
a home run right off the bat. So I'm grateful,
all right, Felicia Cargohol. We certainly appreciate all the work
that you did. I'm making this happen. Congratulations, thanks a lot,
Thank you. I appreciate it. Don't want to start with you,

(01:40:58):
thank you very much. That hello, gonna start with you,
because again we get these people they're like, oh, voting man,
that stuff don't matter. This is why it matters. Who
you elect as d A or as a judge can
determine who goes to to get the further judication, who

(01:41:19):
goes to prison exactly. You know, Martin. One thing that
I stressed with my students, I said, well, if it's
not important, why is it always under attack. I tell people,
if you're not voting, you know, you know, you need
to be quiet because you're not saying anything because you're
not voting, you're not using that power. And particularly even

(01:41:41):
at the local elections, that's extremely important. I challenge people
around me, particularly in the africansendered community, if you're conscious
black power is black voting power. And if all you're
doing is complained or you need to go through else
to complain because you're not making an impact on anything.
About opening your mouth and complaining, take but to the
polls and vote. Do the research. Do the research and

(01:42:04):
know who you're voting for. Uh, know who your counsel
persons are. Make sure that you engage yourself because if
we understand that a big part of citizenship is having
the right to vote. If we understand that with the thirteenth,
Ammdbers said, except those who are incarcerated, the first thing

(01:42:24):
they took away is your power to vote. I challenge
everybody around me, you know, if you're really black, if
you believe in black power, then you need to vote, period.
And I also encourage people around me. If you don't
like the way where something else, consider running for office.
Consider first getting involved, going you know, being involved, being

(01:42:45):
being on political committee. Talk to your council person, see
how you can be involved, and make sure that you
register and vote and to push because one of the
first things you know that I calling said I up
in the sixties. My mother couldn't vote until she was
in her authorities. I never realized why after she would

(01:43:07):
pick me up from school she would rush to vote.
Why it was so important. I didn't get that. But
when I turned eighteen, I was at Lengthston University and
I will never forget the Deltas that Omega's had a
voter registration drive and they were standing outside the union.
They said, are you eighteen to have you regually get
over here in register to vote. So I was eighteen

(01:43:30):
years old and I really did not know anything about it.
But all I know is that Randy Thomas said, come
over here and vote, register and I did. I've been
voting every since. I voted every election, and I encourage
my students particularly to vote. Uh. And again, if we
don't do it, we don't have a voice, and we
don't understand how powerful that vote is. So it's extremely

(01:43:53):
especially in Texas or text Ass. We understand that folks
and Texas ass how lost the last piece of mind.
And if the young people don't make sure that they
are educated, don't make sure that they are out here
voting and using their voices, you know we are going

(01:44:14):
to be in a lot of trouble. So again it's
important and we understand yes, and indeed recy um when
when we talk about again these cases, these are people
who now get to actually live, who now get uh
to to to participate by removing this and again some

(01:44:37):
of these cases go back thirty years. Absolutely, I mean,
it's so important to get a clean slate. I mean,
we've seen a lot of Republicans like former Speaker John
Bayner reinvent himself and be pro legalized mayrimanna at least
pro the mirror the legalized marijuanna businesses that he's involved in.
And so it's really important to not leave people behind

(01:44:58):
based on you know, okay, it's old attitudes towards marijuana
and Karen at cannabis. And I think the other important
thing to point out here is the district attorney thought
that their work was originally done because they had expunged
these records of the Department of Justice recorded cases. This
advocacy group came in and identified in additional sixty thousand cases.

(01:45:19):
So I think it goes to show that civic engagement
doesn't stop at the ballot box. Civic engagement includes supporting
advocacy groups and people who are doing the work. You know,
a lot of what are these politicians do is because
they're pushed. It's because people are engaged on the issues.
And you can't assume that because something is important to you,

(01:45:39):
are to your particular community, that all of the resources
are being put behind that. In these district Attorney's office,
Attorney General, Senate office, etcetera, etcetera, there are limited resources
and a lot you talk to politicians, a lot of
them will say they don't have the budget and the
funds necessarily to put behind I don't want to call
it a pet cause because it's obviously a very significant issue,
but behind a particular area of focus. And so it's

(01:46:03):
important if you say, if you have a cause, whether
it's cannabis expondement or whether it's you know, anything under
the sun, get behind those specific organizations. Don't just look
towards the national organizations like a c L. You look
towards what's your local community organizations are doing. Are taken
upon yourself to do something that you think can make
an impact and come to your come Sometimes you have

(01:46:24):
to come to your politicians with solutions instead of just
complaints and and the piggyback on that point. Greg, Again,
this was the actions of local people and a local
d A. We said this all the time. Everything does
not happen out of Washington, d C. On the federal level.

(01:46:44):
When we talk about people who were in prison, only
ten of the people in federal prison in prison on
the federal level are in state prisons and local jails. Absolutely. Well,
just echo what we've heard Dr Hill saying and what
you just said recently. You know, this is full spectrum warfare.

(01:47:05):
That means the vote, that means organizing, that means everything
from and I see you rep in lengthen you gotta
represent lengthen, doctor, And I love that, uh you say
as a teenager, you've got young people saying, how you
ready to vote? Coming over here? You see the social organization.
How many times have you talked about the Greek That
organization's uh rolling And we just heard an example of
it in real in real life. And and so it's

(01:47:27):
full spectrum. There isn't any tool we should leave in
the toolbox. And you know, I'm reflecting on the fact
that you covered that d A race very extensively, and
this shows the power of independent black media and advocate journalism.
You're not You're not on the sidelines. In other words,

(01:47:47):
this isn't something that you covered one or two times.
You had the you had the campaign folk on, you
had that you were raising the issues, and you kept
hammering home the fact that politicians are there to do
the job that they are elected to do. And I
remember when um, I guess it was our friend Melina
Abdulah Black Lives Matter l A was on. You know,
one of the things that that the decision to go

(01:48:10):
with gets on was that they rung out of him
before they voted for him, promises on what he would do,
and then they went and hit the streets. I remember
Molina talking about the fact you had cats who were
in these organized formations that we call gangs, and they
simply said, do you all understand the role of the
district attorney in your life? Now to walk us through it.

(01:48:32):
And then not only after having been walked through it
did they get on board. They then turned around and
started organizing people, some who would never had voted. So
I think the trend now, even as we talk about
these federal issues, families, we talk about these state level issues,
the trend may very well be in this country as
it begins to fracture at the national level, to return

(01:48:52):
to another emphasis on these local issues. And I don't
think anything shows that in Los Angeles in particular in
California general League. Then to see congress Woman Bass say
I'm I'm going to run for the mayor of Los Angeles.
This is an intriguing moment we're in and it just
shows you the importance of black black media, black news media,
and black advocate journalists. Absolutely, uh, folks. And when you

(01:49:16):
talk about advocacy, you gotta thank the black folks of
California for this particular. Next story, remember we had the
State Center from California on about uh this black beach
that was stolen from African Americans in nineteen twelve. Uh. Well,
California Governor Gavin Newsom has actually signed legislation returning this

(01:49:39):
primate beach front property called Bruce's Beach to the descendants
of that particular couple. It was purchased in nineteen twelve
by Willa and Charles Bruce, who built the first West
Coast resort for African Americans. Segregation barred them from many beaches. Well.
In nineteen twenty nine, the Manhattan Beach City Council seize

(01:50:03):
the property by Emmett domain running these African Americans off
of that particular property. Now, as a result of the
work of black state legislators, the transfer of that land
to the descendants of uh Will and Charles Bruce must
take place immediately as a result of Gavin Newsom signing

(01:50:26):
this into law. That uh that there are there are
cases all across this country. Um uh about the car
where black land was stolen. How white supremacists use their
legal authority, which was really illegal in these with cities

(01:50:47):
and crooked judges to steal the land, millions of acres
of land of black people, and by stealing that land,
depriving future generations of their inheritance. That's right wrong, absolutely
in fact, again in that period of reconstruction when the
Union Army got to South Carolina and that promise of

(01:51:08):
forty acres and the mule was made between eighteen sixty
two and sixty three and then betrayed when Andrew Johnson
got in and allowed those former Confederates to come back
down there and reclaim their land, and the rest was
sold to northern speculators. It was land. The betrayal of
reconstruction was the betrayal of land, because land is the
basis for wealth in this country. And you know, it's

(01:51:29):
no accident. As we see it again, thinking about them Aubrey,
thinking about Brianna Taylor, thinking about George Floyd and all
the victims of pate roll of violence in this country.
It was really in the wake of their murders and
the reckoning that began to unfold that we saw this
long struggle catch fire. And so again, like we're talking,
you gotta get engaged, and you gotta fight to reclaim

(01:51:53):
some certain uh certain advances and also extend that. Finally,
Gavin news him understands that his ass was saved in
California by people who had to get together. So guess
what and save him. Look, Joe Biden, take note, man,
take note. Politicians not your friend. Javin Newsom gonna do

(01:52:14):
what he's required to do when people require him to
do it. This is the beginning. As you said, Roland,
we will probably see a lot more of these cases
being pursued in the near future. Up the hill again,
we talked about that land and what they did here.
Now there are efforts but others to say, hey, do

(01:52:36):
the exact same thing that European Jews did when they
were reclaiming stolen artifacts. To this day, they are still
to this day, they are still uh chasing down artifacts
that were stolen from Jews in Germany, tracing that back
and returning into the rightful heirs. When it comes to

(01:52:58):
the land, that same thing happened. And one of the
things that we should be pushing for the creation of
state commissions and groups to start examining if you know,
if you have similar cases in Mississippi, in Alabama, Louisiana, Arkansas,
all the places where black folks lived, uh coming out
of slavery during reconstruction, as well as doing other black

(01:53:21):
freedom movement. Yes, I would always ask my Black studies class,
who has land in your family? Asked your big Mama
new or yug Mama, whatever she's called. Asked the elders
in your family about that land, because we all had
land coming out of enslavement. Our people had land because
they understood that land was valuable, land was wealthy. And

(01:53:43):
so we have to teach our children, don't sell grandmama's house,
don't sell their property out on the country. Make sure
that you pay the tax on it. Make sure that
you take care of it because it's wealth. I remember
when uh we came come come out of northern Louisiana,
and I remember when my mother and her siblings would

(01:54:04):
get these little checks for twenty dollars and thirty dollars
as a child, and I never understood what was going on.
But then as I got old, I realized, well, Uh
Papa Tobe had land, and when he came out of slavery,
he had two hundred some of the acres, and we
had to get it back from the people who who
stole it from us. I found a court document just

(01:54:26):
recently when I was doing some family research. So it's
important that we understand the value of land. We teach
our children and our grandchildren what that means to us
and what it means for future generations. And all we
gotta do is dig. Somebody got some land somewhere. If
you're in Texas, it's probably in east of West Texas,
wherever you are, but somewhere in South we got some land.

(01:54:49):
We need to reclaim it. Definitely, mm hmm, yeah. I mean,
I think I love that you mentioned a commission. I
think we've heard so much pushback about things like the
HR forty commission, and we don't need another study. We
don't need another commission. Yes we do because we might
not get a three trillion dollar check of reparations, but

(01:55:10):
there can be UM some repair being done to things
like the Black farmers and all of the land that's
been repossessed and confiscated from them through air, through airs,
property type of UM, false claims, and things like that.
So there's a lot of ways that wealth has been
extracted and stolen from Black people UM, primarily through land
and through the loss of land. And I think that

(01:55:31):
resources being put into tracing how those things were wrongfully
taken and getting them back is one way of of
of repairing some of the damage that's been done economically UM.
And so I think it's important that we put resources
behind it, whether it's legal resources, to have these kind
of court challenges in court cases. It's important that we
put politicians in there who are going to do what

(01:55:51):
they are supposed to do by our community, do right
by them. And you have to give credit to Gavin
Newsom where it's do because he also signed the reparations
commission in California as well, and so we are headed
in the right track. With that, but there's still a
long way to go, and it does start at the
local level, and it starts with putting the resources behind UM,
you know, for flushing out these claims. UH indeed, indeed, alright, folks,

(01:56:16):
is time for our new setment. Black and missing photo
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(01:56:40):
September twenty two through two one h He has five
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(01:57:01):
eight nine zero three six two one eight nine seven
three six to one, UH, folks and sad news. Earlier
this week we told you about UH I used to
get Ashley Gilory, who was missing in Houston UH since
September fourth. Will Her body was found in Fort Bend County, Texas.
The sculpture remains were actually found. UH. Police believe that
Willie Brown, a longtime friend of Ashley's, killed her on

(01:57:25):
September five in the hotel room in Houston and being
the disposed of everybody in the next county. Brown led
authorities to Ashley's body and is charged with murdering the
three or one year old mother of three. Again, as
I said, Brown is described as a good friend of Ashley. That, folks,
is really really, Uh, it is very sad story. And

(01:57:46):
so but again, we're gonna have our Black and Missing
segment every day featuring an African American who is missing.
Don't get a lot of media coverage. We're gonna do
our part to ensure that happens. All right, folks, our
final story, y'all know one time this I got you

(01:58:07):
hard on my property proper. Well, you know, you got
black folks walking their dogs and they're traveling, just minding

(01:58:28):
their own business, just being black. And then you always have,
uh the dog park debpute. Who decides to open her
damn mouth. Well, this took place in Brooklyn, in the neighborhood. Uh,
and we was buried where this white woman told a
black couple, uh, to stay in your neighborhood. Well, one
of the people who she was harassing is the brother Frederick.

(01:58:48):
For Frederick Joseph who was here, the author of the
book The Black Friend on Being a Better White person
of the woman has not been identified, but her ass
has been fired by her company because guess what. Darry Anderson,
the CEO of Bevy, believed to be her employer, took
this with action, apologizing to the couple and then announcer

(01:59:09):
on Twitter yesterday an employee engaging behavior contrary to our
values and has been terminated. Uh recy, I keep saying
every black person, when when one of these white folks
get fired, fifty black people should be flooding that office
with application take their job. Hell yeah, And you just
say Frankie Jockson if. I mean, he's a pretty big influencer.

(01:59:30):
So you know you funk with the wrong one, caring okay,
because he actually has a platform, he was able to
put your dumbass on blast yeah, fire them all. Um.
You know, I say, well, let me not say that
because this is a this is a new show. But
all I have to say is quick up with black people.
Who the hell? Maybe you need to go back to

(01:59:51):
your neighborhood. How do we know that you belong to
your neighborhood? How did we know you from some trailer
parks somewhere. How do you look at the black people
walking their dog, minding their business and determined that they
don't belong where they are? Maybe you don't belong where
you are. As a matter of fact, you definitely don't
if you're messing around and harassing black people. Now you're
asses out of a job in the middle of a pandemic. Y'all.

(02:00:14):
Here's the actual video. Watched this hood. No stay in
her who stay in our hood? That's what I'm sorry?
What stay stay in us? Stay in her hood? Oh well,

(02:00:36):
that's I'm sorry. You were right here watch this entire thing.
But she just not staying here and tell us to
stay in her hood. She just told you all. I
ask all. I asked Dr Hill. When y'all record these videos,
please can you record horizontal a landscape so we can

(02:00:58):
see all of the race racism, uh, in the on
the screen. That way, we don't have we we don't
have to put we don't have to put a logo
in the back, you know, versus the black bars. So
we need to see her big ass face. Uh. And
so please y'all don't shoot videos this way. That's why
you get the black bars. On the side. You turn

(02:01:19):
your phone this way, it'll feel a whole screen up.
Listen rolling, thank you. You know, Karen is just out
of control, and we all know why. You know, she's scared,
she mad. She look up and she ain't having no babies.

(02:01:40):
Her population is shrinking, she is becoming the minority, and
she and Todd don't know what to do. It's like,
oh my god, I'm gonna do well, you know, welcome
to America. It's training, it's it's it's turning now, so
so you gotta deal with it. And I'm just a
way for Careen to come and approach me. She hasn't,

(02:02:02):
you know, But I'm I'm waiting. I'm waiting, and you know,
I was glad that the man was sitting there. He said, yep,
that's what she said, and this, and he said, oh
my god, you're attacking me. Girl. Please, you better go
somewhere with all that. But but you know why, you
noticed for a secondary he did pause like there was
part of him and I was like, I'm a white man.

(02:02:23):
I don't know if I want to get involved. But
then he was like this might go viral. I ain't
trying to be that white man. Who sat up being
sided with the Karen so that he went on and said, yeah,
she said that he had he hesitated. That's right, Greg,
I'm telling you that. Look y'all, keep back in the
food you can. I just just just keep fine, keep fine.

(02:02:48):
That's why everybody, just y'all keep shooting. And your whole time,
you're going, you're about to lose your job. You're about
to lose your job. And then and like the food
yesterday and fair X. If y'all want to be so
ready it sis and you actually want to shoot your
own videos, I highly encourage you. You know what, if
you're white supremacist and you want to shoot your own video,

(02:03:10):
I'm okay if you shoot this direction, you could shoot
this direction, you can shoot this direction, you could shoot
this direction, you could shoot this direction. Just show your
face so we can track your AADs down. But wait,
after Dr Carr, can we talk about Ellen Karen Pompeio
because she told on herself too. Hold on, hold on,

(02:03:34):
hold on, okay, I'm I'm okay, I'm I will extend
the show for three more minutes, but grin answer that.
Then we'll talk about Ellen Pompeo very quickly I'll just say,
you know, it feels good and it's important at the
same time. I mean, these these incidents are like thermometers.

(02:03:55):
We're in a country where rife folks feel like they
can say, well, do whatever the hell they want. She
was genuinely shot when they pushed back. Oh what you
what did you say to me? In other words, you know,
every white person in America is a potential deputy and
this is this is the whole point, and so pushing
back is important. Although you know this can cut all

(02:04:15):
kind of ways. What I don't want to see happing
is black people start losing thee jobs. When by when
when if this thing were to flip in another direction.
But I mean that that's neither end of the The
only thing I was saying, and I agree with you
at the same way I said. The white boy kind
of hesitated. Chapter six in the Brother's book is so
your friend is racist, what should you do? Here's the

(02:04:38):
point that white man made choice and his spear in
his hand. He tried to enjoy his favorite beverage, and
he was like, damn what to him? And his second
he came down on the side of the angels. But
you're right, reason he hesitated for a minute. So we
have to always be connocant white people. There's a choice
to be made. Go read Brother Joseph's book, Chapter six.

(02:04:58):
So your friend is racing, what should you do? All y'all,
I'm gonna add this one more rolling mm hmm. Well,

(02:05:21):
let's turn their lives white. I got too hard at
least me going water with on my property property. Okay,

(02:05:42):
I'm gonna say this right now, and and this supplies
to anybody who is white in anybody who is black.
Sometimes is some ship you don't need to say or

(02:06:03):
admit too publicly, will y'all. Ellen Pompello The Star or
Gray's Anatomy, she plays Meredith Well. Ellen decided to share
with everybody to the story of how she put Denzel

(02:06:25):
Washington in his place. H Now, I need y'all to
understand something. It didn't go well when Katie Currick brought
up something that Denzel how he supposedly treated her a
few years ago. They didn't go too well for Katie.
Katie got kable even how with me. She sent shipping

(02:06:47):
me an email and want to talk to me? I said,
let's talk. She hit She never called me back. Aunt Katie,
you got a number. I got your number. So but
that's fine, that's fine, that's need to hit nor them. Well,
Little Ellen tells this story of when Denzel was directing

(02:07:07):
an episode of Grey's Anatomy and she decided, She said
that the other actor inferts are improvised. So see, she
decided to improvise and then jumped on the actor start
telling him how he should be performing. And then Denzel said,
hold on, you ain't the director, and she was like who. Basically,

(02:07:31):
who the hell are you? This my show? She said,
And she was like, Denzel came at that's what she said.
Wait wait what she said? Listen, motherfucker show. She admitted
to this to Denzel Washington. Sorry, Bronie, but you had
to say that part right right right? Well, you know,

(02:07:53):
I you know, I know you really wanted to say it.
I know, I mean I can say it, but I
know you really, I know you really wanted to say it.
So she was like, yeah, yo, this this mine. She
actually decided to tell the story. Black folks been lighting

(02:08:16):
her ass up for the last uh twenty four hours.
It ain't it ain't um. She probably gonna come out
with an apology because I just need you all to
understand you cannot talk trash about Jesus, Dr King Wretha

(02:08:44):
Franklin's right, Adris and Dinzel came. I'm just saying you can't.
You cannot do that. It is not going to end
well for you when you do that. Ellen, keep some

(02:09:09):
ship to yourself, and when you drunk with your friends,
share that story when nobody got a camera on but
yo been And look it don't Ellen, just because your
husband black, we don't care. You can't your girl just

(02:09:34):
not this hell, when did this happen to you? She
always yesterday. So here's here's another issue that I have
with it, because her whole point of this story was
to put it out there that Denzel quote unquote win
nuts on me. But then you proceed to tell us

(02:09:57):
how you na h'all crazy ass nine on the Denzel Washington.
And see that's the pump that I'd be happening with
the white woman because the story gets flipped. And in
this case, you told us that you're already sitting up
there nine. Denzel did not flip on you. We're not gonna, damn.
We ain't no black man gonna flip on the white woman.

(02:10:20):
On set, especially not anybody of Denzel Washington's caliber. He
know better than to get crazy with some white woman
who was the star to show you gotta mess. She's
the start of the show. But how the hell did
you say, listen, motherfucker, to Denzel Washington become Denzel Washington.
This is the all I'm an caught, she said. He

(02:10:42):
was this, This is what she said, Denzel win Ham
on my ass. He was like, I'm the director, don't
you tell him what to do? And I was like, listen, motherfucker,
this is my show, this is my set. Who are you? Ellen?
Like you barely know what the bathroom is? And I

(02:11:04):
have the utmost respect for him as an actor, as
a director, as everything, But like, yo, we went at
it one day. First of all, ain't cho goddamn show.
It was Shanda show. Ain't cho damn set. It was

(02:11:25):
Shanda set about the hill. I know what's up with
these white women thinking they can just say some stuff.
Uh so they've given Ellen the business. Hm, and you
say this, she got a melon husband. Maybe that pause,

(02:11:46):
she's getting some of that black stuff. Listen, you said
whatever she wants to say, Because there are women who
believe that well, I'm getting it, you know, black things,
So I can do this and this and this. No
you can't, No, you can't. So I'm wondering what is
hubby said. Did he said, girl, you messed up? Or

(02:12:07):
you know, he said, Karen, it's okay, I'm here. You
know that may have a lot to do with her
leaving that. You know she can say what to look
at the y of it. What is the psychological profile
for her to feel that she can say that and
what she had said it if she wasn't getting that

(02:12:27):
black stuff. I'm just saying, Greg, Greg, this is out
of conversation. Should have went down, This is out of conversation.
Should have went down when Ellen came home. Okay, her

(02:12:47):
husband should have been sitting at the dining room table
with a couple black coffee. He should have been sitting
there waiting, and when she came home and said, hey, honey,
how you doing? He should have said, set your ass down.

(02:13:08):
He should have said, he should have said, in the
baby left, let me, let me, let let me say,
let me explain something to you. Now. I love you
and you my wife, but your ad said, you don't
have me going up against Denzel Washington and all of
Denzel's fans. Now he could say, now, look, now, I know,

(02:13:31):
I know you're married to me being a black man,
but it's some stuff you don't say to other black
man that you think you can say, because just let
you know right now, you ain't got those privileges to
say that nonsense. And then you're gonna demean by saying

(02:13:51):
he didn't even know where the bathroom is. Now, ABU
damn how this works. So I'm gonna need you to
walk that ship back because we clearly and gonna ever
be able to go back to the a CP Image Awards.
We ain't gonna get invited to no black cookouts. Now,
you don't mess my ship up because I can't go

(02:14:12):
nowhere black with your ass because yn't get asked, decided
to tell the story publicly about how you called Denzel
Washington a motherfucker? Are we clear? Honey? Right? That's not
gonna cook me some grits. I'm sorry, Greg, that's that's interesting.

(02:14:37):
I mean I was amused at first, and then of
course I guess reading there from the article that you showed.
When his wife came on set, she repeated the story
and said I had to get after him, and so
you know, as a as a theater major undergrad, I
understand the way that actors behaved when it's just actors around,

(02:14:58):
because again, this wasn't a closed set and it wasn't
just her and him. There were other people around. The
fact that this story didn't get out and may mean
in that context it's just you know, man, they're talking
crazy and as you said, Denzel know how to move
through the world. Like like I said, rething they haven't
been said. I was sitting here trying to substitute untouchable

(02:15:19):
white icons for Denzel. And I'm wondering if Paul At Washington,
who was an actress, had been on set and called
Tom Hanks directing that a motherfucker, whether or not Tom
Hanks would have respond, and then if Tom Hank's wife
would have the actress would have come on set and

(02:15:40):
repeat that. I'm wondering. I'm under the license that people
think they have with black people. That's that's one thing,
but I think all of that is speculation. Here's the
issue she faces, and you just nailed it. Of course,
it's what we're talking about. Denzel Washington isn't untouchable for us.
So whereas in your little bubble of acting world, you
think so o kay to use the salty language, and

(02:16:02):
back and forth. This ain't Isaiah Washington ten years ago. This,
which means, even if it's a misunderstanding, you think it's
a cute actors story. You're done now. I don't watch
any of those shows anyway that come came out of
Shine the World, because you know, I just got my own.
At some point, you gotta draw a line in terms
of minstreansy. But as far as I'm concerned. But h

(02:16:25):
but that hasn't been said. This ain't Isaiah. And I
know you think all black men are the same, including
your husband and brother. You better sit her down and
tell her the regardless of what happened, black folk draw
the line. So she can't walk that back. There's no
apology she can make. She already have said it, and
she bragged about it. There's really nothing she can do. Yeah, well,

(02:16:49):
I'm just saying, uh. And with regards to that hypothetical
you mentioned, I'll send paul At a text and I
asked her, I'll ask her if she would do How'll
let you know what you say about that, because you
know I'll already sit you know, you know I already
seen her text because just so y'all know, see sometimes
see I see when when when when you're a smart journalist, um,

(02:17:12):
you always get to know uh the wife. Uh because
that way, uh, that way is like look at here,
I need to get somebody to call the wife. So
that's why, that's why y'all understand. Part of my success
is mama's and wives love Uncle Row Row and mama's
and wives tell their husbands and children what to do

(02:17:36):
and what to watch, and so that's how I roll.
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