August 28, 2026 • 48 mins
In this episode, Gandhi questions Curtis about his most recent public altercation, where he encountered wild alligators in the city, and what his definition of a man actually is.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
We just found out that apparently you also spent a
lot of time in sewers, which doesn't shock me, but
kind of does. And why is this relevant right now?
And why have you spent a lot of time in
the sewer?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Because one of the many advocations that I sought as
a wayward youth was to be a sanitational engineer. Okay.
which meant that you had to go down into the
sewer system. Now, there was a plausible reason for that,
is that I eventually became... The commissioner of stickball in
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the city of New York, because that was my game.
And I know that was before both of your time,
but you would play that with a Spalding or a
Pensy Pinky, the little pink ball that oftentimes we'd go
into a catch basin and go in the sewer. So
all those balls would be deposited there, and I would
be the brave one to risk going down into the
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slime and grime and the smell and stench where sometimes alligators...
would actually.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Exist you saw an alligator in the sewer yes.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I did in a catch basin by the paddock invasion
uh off of canarsie there was a alligator there that
was looking at me like it hadn't eaten in a
month of sunday so feet don't fail me now i'm
getting the.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Hell out of here was it a little one big
one no.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
It was quite big i would say probably about five.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Foot did you report it Who are you going to report.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
It to back then? This is the late 60s, early 70s.
There was no 9-1-1. There was no 3-1-1.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
There was no 9-1-1 in the 60s?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
No.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
When did 9-1-1 start?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
9-1-1 started just about at that time. But how are
you going to call 9-1-1 from a sewer? You had
no cell phones.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Okay, this is a good point.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
And by the pay phones, many of them were broken into.
People would have sharpened screwdrivers and break into it for
the quarters. So what were you going to do? Send
smoke signals up?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
So you go into the sewer. You see an alligator.
You come out of the sewer. And you just go
about your day like, hey, just a heads up, there's
an alligator in the sewer.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
No. Okay. I was traumatized. It used to be.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
We finally found the thing that would traumatize you. Not
getting shot. Not all the other things, but the gator
in the sewer.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Big gator in the sewer there. The paddock in patient.
By the way, remember, that was the urban myth. Because
so many people would go down to Florida, where you're
originally from, and on their way back Old Dixie Highway
before they built to, you know, the thoroughfare, they'd be
selling baby alligators all the way on their way up,
little cardboard boxes. By the time you get home, your
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mommy would say, what are you going to do with that? Well,
we'll put it in the bathtub. And before you knew it,
that little baby gator was a bigger gator.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Big old gator.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
And then your mom or your dad or somebody said,
we're just going to have to flush it down the toilet.
And that's what a lot of people did. Now, most
of the alligators didn't survive, but some of them remained alive. Yuck.
In the sewers in New York City. And I can
attest to that.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Okay, because you were in the sewers. Why are we
talking about sewers right now?
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Because have you noticed some young, intrepid men have decided
to venture down into the sewer system?
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I've seen some women coming out of there, too. But yeah,
I have noticed.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
How do you know that they're men, women, or they're
in transition? Do you have any idea?
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I don't, actually. Some of them appeared to be women
to me.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Okay, I'll accept that. And I believe that they're down
there scavenging. This is the old tradition. You go down
into the sewer system. A lot of things get flushed
into the toilet or they end up in a catch basin.
They've been lost. And just like people will get onto
a beach and they have those metal detectors going up
and down. You probably knew that from Miami Beach. You
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probably knew that from Plum Beach, Diamond, right along the
Bell Parkway, where they would have those metal detectors and
they would find sometimes hidden treasures of what people had
lost or left behind. It's the same thing in the sewer.
So I believe that they've actually gone down there with
all of this weather, extreme weather, which is the result of, yes,
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global warming and climate change.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Oh, he acknowledges it.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Love that. Oh, totally. I'm the only one to acknowledge
it on the station I broadcast from WOR. But the
point being is because of the flush of the water,
It pushes anything up against a catch basin. There's a
secondary catch basin down there. So it's almost like a net.
And then you go through it like you're panning for gold.
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Like it's the old gold rush in California. Yuck.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
But here's my question. We don't see them really going
down there with stuff or coming out with stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Well, you stuff that in your pockets because, remember, they're
small items of value. It could be a ring. It
could be a watch. It could be any number of things.
And the next thing you know, it's in the hock shop,
better known as the pawn shop. And the pawn shop dealer,
they don't care. They don't care. You've seen those reality
shows about pawn shops, right?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Trust me, they'll take anything. Everything has a price.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
People are basically like panning the poop for whatever they
can find, and they're coming out. You don't think there's
anything nefarious.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
They use shovels, little shovels. So they go in there,
little shovels, and they shovel it. And by the way, hey.
You'll probably have a better chance of finding something of
value in the sewer than you would have hitting the
lotto or Powerball or any of those games of chance
that they call.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Okay, that's fair. So no problem with the sewer people.
Let them do what they do.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
And there are the mole people. Let's not leave them out.
They're not necessarily mining for any kind of gold, but
they live in the subway system. down by 2nd Avenue,
by East Broadway in the Lower East Side. They live
in the Amtrak tunnels along the west side when you
take Amtrak from Penn Station and you're going up to Albany.
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They're living in there. They're tapping into the electricity. They're
watching cable television.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Like the Ninja Turtles.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Exactly. Where do you think that idea came from? And
in fact, when you get the book, The Mole People,
which was quite the top seller at one point, The
attribution by the authoress is, I was guided through this
process by Curtis Sliwa, who knew all the mole people
by their first name.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
You know all the mole people?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Back then I did, yes.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Do you know any of, are there currently mole people?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yes, yes, I know some of them. I know some
of them.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
How do you get to know them? Just when you're
down there? How do you get to know them?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Well, because they see you, you see them. They know
who you are. They're not oblivious. Some of them are
more emotionally disturbed. They're homeless. They're survivors. And they've seen
me in and out of that subway system, in and
out of those tunnels for years. Or they've watched it
on the TVs that they are tapping into the electricity
that's right there on the wall. That's you. You're the
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guy who ran for mayor. That's right. I'm the choice
of the mole people, the sewer people. At least I
know I got that vote.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
The choice of the mole people. I saw you get
into a little altercation the other day that I got
to say, I nearly puked when I was watching it.
You were in Central Park.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
You were going back and forth with one of the
horse carriage drivers. Is that what we would call them?
They're not driving.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yes, yes. The horse carriage drivers. Yes. You know, like
from Sex and the City. Please take us on a
ride through Central Park. How about Barrick? Yes. That's why
I give these guys grief whenever I see them.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
So you were giving this guy shit.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
And he's yelling at you. And then you did something
that knocked me off my feet. You stuck your hands
into the horse water.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
And you drank it or put it on your face,
whatever it was.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Both. Why? Why? Because I identify with who come out
as they say in Italian, the horses. I am there
to save the horses. Look how depressed they are. Look
how enslaved they are. And you know what that horse
carriage driver was screaming at me? You'll never be mayor.
I heard him. You'll never be mayor. I said, oof,
to you, I'm here for the horses. If they're going
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to drink this swill, and that's what it is, then
I'm going to drink it too. And I got to
tell you, it was nasty with a capital N.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Curtis, what did you expect? That's disgusting. I was like,
he really does have the constitution of a cockroach. Or
as you said, a rat. How do you not get
sick from that? You did it twice. In that one video,
you did it twice.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Why, man? Might I remind you, on that very same
day I was in the Lower East Side recreating the
time that I got shot five times with hollow point bullets.
If I did not succumb to lead poisoning, what makes
you think that I would succumb to the swill, unfortunately,
that the Horse carriages, excuse me, the horses who pull
those carriages. If you notice with tourists who could use
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a little Ozumpic, you know, like all of them are
400 pounds. You know, they're fighting over the croutons at
salad bars in Missouri and Iowa. And they come here
for a horse carriage ride. Think they could use a
little Ozumpic? Okay. Okay.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
This, first of all, we just went down so many
different trails here. The amount of people that are killed
by water every year is so much higher than the
amount of people killed by gunfire every year because water
carries so many deadly, awful things. We're in the middle
of a cyclospora crisis right now because of, you know,
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this guy who's in charge of everything, cut all the
budgets for everything. And you're out here just tempting the fates,
drinking horse water out of the trough.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
That's right, because I identify with these downtrodden beasts of
burden who need to be free to frolic. Like I
identify with the horses in the horse racing industry, which
is barbaric. That must be stopped. Like I identify with
the Mustangs, a symbol of American freely roaming the plains
and now being rounded up by Donald Trump, who hates
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all animals.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
He's a mean person. He's mean.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Oh he hates animals he hates.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Anything that brings people joy except for him he's.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Disgusting but 25 ahead he's selling them so they can
be taken to the slaughterhouse so that they can be
sold for meat in canada the argentines and also italy
where they eat more horse meat than anywhere else in
the world That's a double U discraziata. And I'm out
to ban that. A Mustang is a symbol of freedom
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in America.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Aren't they protected?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
They were protected.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Lifted those protections along with the national parks.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
But then again, Donald Trump determines who's protected and not protected.
So if you make money for the Trump family, you're protected.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
So I have a question for you. And how are
things going for you over at WOR?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Splendidly. Yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:46):
This isn't complicating your relationship with anyone over there, right?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
No, because we've become number one in the morning now
against our competition in talk radio. Ah, talk radio. Where
I used to work WABC, which now the acronym stands
for Always Blaming Curtis for the Victory of Zorhan Mandami
and Always Bashing Curtis.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
One day you'll get his name.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I've come over to WOR. They partnered me up with
Larry Menti, and it's a balanced show. We have differences
of opinion, and we've become number one in talk radio
in the morning.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Well, congratulations.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Thank you. Thank you, Gandhi. Diamond, do I hear a hip, hip, hooray, ha-ha, hoo-hoo?
wow what's that euphoric what.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
She meant was hip hip hooray ha ha hoo hoo
i was wondering because one of the the questions that
we get all the time and i know you and
i have talked about this is how did this guy
run as a conservative he does not seem to be
super conservative all of your views and opinions seem to
lean in the other direction so i'm gonna ask you
again what about you is conservative and how did you
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get onto conservative talk radio and run as a republican.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
I think there is a misnomer there. I've never run
as a conservative. There is a conservative party in New York.
They have not offered me their line to run, nor
have I accepted it, because I have really nothing in
common with them. I happen to know who those people are.
I just don't agree with anything they stand for. Okay.
I am an independent, autonomous, individual, free agent who happens
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to be on the Republican line. But then again, nobody
knows the opinion that Curtis Lee was going to have
on any issue until.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I— Literally never.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Never. Never. Because I'm not in a box. I'm not
going to repeat the echo chamber of what Democrats do
or Republicans do. It's sort of like I size up
the issue and I say, no, no, this is my
opinion on this issue, whether you like it or you
don't like it. So be it. That's what America is
all about. Having as many different opinions as possible, as
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many different parties, as many different discussions as possible. Words
do not hurt you. As you know, I know what
hurts you. And it's not words.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Five hollow point bullets.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Why were you reenacting that?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Remember, June 19th of 1992, on the orders of John
Gotti Jr. How can we forget? Excuse me, senior to
John Gotti Jr. in the Gambino crime family. Touche.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Who, by the way, these people are all still alive, right?
Not senior.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Not senior. Senior went straight to hell without an asbestos suit.
You know, he died of throat cancer. Okay. And when
I heard that he was suffering with throat cancer in Springfield, Missouri,
which is the federal prison, I was dancing the Tarantella.
I couldn't wait till he would die and burn in hell.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Oh, my hell.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Does this give you an idea? Of the way I
feel about the Gottis and the Gambinos? You know what?
Speaker 1 (13:36):
I would probably feel the same way if somebody shot
me five times with hollow point bullets. I'm not sure
that I'd be so bold once the dude who did
it was out of jail just wandering around. But you
are a different breed, my friend.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Thank you very much. And I appreciate you as my
sister in solidarity.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Oh, God.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Because we are all part of the I heart family.
Us and we, not I and me. Okay. You see,
that's a good one, right?
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Let me tell you what I almost did the other day.
I got invited to an event with 50 Cent.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
50? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Your man. No, no, no.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
He culturally appropriated my name.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Oh, please.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
He did. I was Curtis before him. Okay. So there
were no black courtesies. Just because he got shot nine times,
you thought he was better than me?
Speaker 1 (14:26):
He did outdo you, I have to say. He did.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
You know who did that? Rumor is Southeast Jamaica's Jaro
and his boys. That's the rumor. Rochdale, you know, right.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
In the shadow of it. I need you to stop
alleging that people did certain things that are still alive
and will show up at this building.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
So were you saying nice things about 50 Cent, the misogynist,
the sexist that he's always been, huh?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Oh, you don't like him. I thought you liked him.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
No, I don't.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I almost invited you to come to the event with me.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
No, no, no. Because I thought Curtis and Curtis. No, no, no.
50 Cent. Not my cup of tea.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Are you kidding? 50 Cent? He's a fake, phony, fraudulent fugazi.
Come on, man. He's a so-called tough guy. And yet,
when he got shot nine times, he disappeared from Southeast Jamaica.
Where'd he go?
Speaker 1 (15:14):
That's what most people would do, Curtis.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Did he go into the 40 Projects? Did he go
out there and say, I'm going to seek vengeance and revenge? No,
he disappeared. And now he's rolling in dough making all
these films, you know, about thugs.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
It makes sense. once you've been shot a bunch of
times in one specific area, to not go to that
area anymore. What you do is exactly opposite of the
things that make sense, and I respect it, but it's
not really that weird that he got out of there.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Excuse me, I jump.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
We honor that you're still hanging out with the mole people.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
I jump from the frying pan right into the fire.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
I know you do. And you're going to take us
all there with you.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
So please don't insult me by mentioning Curtis Jackson, a.k.a.
50 Cent, who culturally appropriated my name.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
That's not how that works. Not how that works. So
we were talking about the Manosphere the other day, which
I think plays into a lot of all of this
crap that's going on.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Hey, that's 50 Cent. Misogynist, sexist.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
He's not part of the Manosphere.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Oh, yes, he is.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
No, he's not. What do you think the Manosphere is?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
The Manosphere is these macho, maniacal guys who walk around
with testosterone crashing through their cranium, who degrade women whenever
they have an opportunity to do it, which is privately
and publicly. Love to go to UFC fights, even though
they wouldn't have the culions, the huevos, to get into
the ring. I feel that is beneath what people should
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be doing, UFC fights. Come on, a guy's on the ground.
You're going to be stomping him. I understand you've got
to do that in the street to survive, but not
in the octagon ring. And they pretend like they are
the straw that stirs the drink. And they're not. Look
at the Tate brothers, right? Look at all the followers
of them. Here they are entrapping women, sex trafficking, the
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worst perversions that ever existed. And they think that's what
it is to be a man. No. They have a
lot of insecurity. They're very neurotic. And I question if
they even like women. You know, they may be part
of the incel groups.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I think that the manosphere is the gayest place that
has ever existed. Because all of these dudes are doing
things for other dudes and acting like women are the
devil and the enemy. And then they're doing push-ups about
it with no shirts. And they're creating gyms for men
only so that they're not tempted by the women who
are there. There's a lot of really weird stuff going on.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Incels, right?
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Incels a little bit.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
By the way, I think also you would turn them
as sort of closet homosexuals. Yeah. I would say they're
more metrosexuals. They're in love with themselves.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Okay, maybe there's a little bit of that.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
No one else can compete with themselves. Look at the
Tate brothers, right? You would think they were God's gift
to the world. I can't wait. If they could put
them on Devil's Island, which used to exist off Panama,
and never let them escape, that would be a good
day for us. They are evil with a capital E.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
No, they're the worst. They're awful. And they created this
entire generation. I want to say the whole generation, but
a giant group of people who are following along with
their lead right now. And anything that happens, whether it's
a school shooting. It's blamed on women. Schools are getting
shot up because of women. Because women will not have
sex with guys, so they get pent up and they
get angry, and then they shoot up a school, and
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it is our fault. Everything is the fault of women,
which is crazy. Which Diamond and I were talking about
the WNBA the other day, which I know is something
that you cared about.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
And why this trolling is going on to the players
at the WNBA. Like, they have done anything to deserve this.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
You're so totally right. Now, just imagine, you're at a
game in Madison Square Garden. Mm-hmm. And it's the ladies
who are playing instead of the Knicks, let's say, versus
the Sixers now with LeBron James. And guys are throwing
dildos out onto the hard world court. First of all,
how unmanly. What kind of a man would do something
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like that? And they're giggling. That sounded like the horse. Well,
pretty much. And then all of a sudden you have
this guy who I used to like, Cantor. You know,
Freedom Cantor from Turkey who took on Erdogan, the dictator.
Played for the Celtics, played for the Knicks for two years.
Now he insists he identifies as a woman he wants
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to participate in the WNBA. That was never a problem
in the WNBA. They have a union. They have all
women that are in that union. Let them determine who
can play in their league and who's not going to
play in their league. But you're going to go to
a game like he did in Chicago and start bullying
these women as they're playing basketball on the hardwood? Right.
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And then wearing a shirt that says, I identify as
a woman. Hey, this guy has too much time on
his hands in retirement. let him get a basketball go
out there on the asphalt and play in the playground
because come on leave the women alone to play their
own game they're doing quite a good job by the
way ratings are up attendance is up And they're finally
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getting some equity in terms of equality with the men
who play professional basketball.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
And the men just couldn't handle it. So they have
to come and stink up the place with all these
ridiculous actions. And they're going after the wrong people. It's weird.
I don't think you should be going after anybody for it.
It's very bizarre.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah, but they're bullies.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Of course they are.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
You see, again, what's UFC? Bullies. What are sexists and misogynists? Bullies.
What is the Manosphere? Bullies. Who is the easiest people
for them to bully? Women. Because then they can justify it. Now,
all of them are welcome to come bully me. Hey,
can't do it, right? Freedom Canty, you're like 6'10, you're
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like 285 pounds. He's like double my size. He ain't
going to bully me. So why are you bothering these
women who are playing a game where professionally they're competing
against one another? You're throwing dildos out onto the hardwood.
You're telling them you want to be able to play
against them. Hey... Get out on the hardwood and play
against men again. I know you had a career, but
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now all of a sudden you want to sort of
revive it at the expense of the women's game? Sorry.
Later for you guys.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Big losers. You've said twice, that's not even a man.
To you, what is the definition of, like, a man?
And I'm not trying to catch you up.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
No, not at all. A man's role in society is
to protect those who cannot protect themselves. So the elderly,
the infirm, children, that's what a man does. And a
man has to show humility and has to humble themselves
and treat women equally. It's kind of simple. I mean,
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it doesn't mean you're better than anybody else. It doesn't mean, oh,
you're the hunter, you know, all these old style myths. No,
it's that you were born with certain abilities that you
just happen to be lucky enough to have. Use it
for the benefit of society, not to the detriment of society.
And most of these guys I see nowadays, they talk,
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they squawk, they brag, they have no humility. It's an
I and me world. It's time to show some humility
because a real man doesn't need to say they're the best,
not like the rest.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Oh, my gosh. I agree. I like this. So one
of the things that my dad always told me was
men and women are equal. They're not the same, but
they're equal. So one plus three equals four. 2 plus
2 equals 4. Those things are equal. They're not the same.
You can work together... inequality to do things all the time,
but people have really started to blur these lines about
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equality and what that actually means, and, oh, you think
you're equal? Well, then, let's see if you can lift
this 200-pound barbell. Like, it's very weird how it's gone
down that path, so I like your version of it.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
I respectfully disagree with you. Women are superior to men.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
I mean, I would say that for sure.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Men by nature are predators, so they have to do
a lot to control... These instincts, which is to prey
on people, especially those who may be weak, who may
not be as strong as them, may not be as
intelligent as them, or may not be as able to
communicate as them. Women are nurturers. So when you want
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society taken care of, who does that? It's the women.
It's not the men. On occasion, it's the men. Mother Teresa, right?
She was in Calcutta. She was caring for the leper
colony with her fellow nuns. All of them were women.
You didn't see them with masks, playtakes, gloves, because they're nurturers.
They're carers. The world would be better off with more
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estrogen and not all this testosterone. I mean, look at
the testosterone. Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
He does not have testosterone, please. Don't even give him
that credit.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
But whoever is the Ayatollah there in Iran or whatever
other leader, they tend to be men. And they tend
to make situations worse than they were to begin with.
Instead of you add a little estrogen to the mix,
it has a calming effect. In fact, there have been
many who have suggested over time when they've seen me
off the hook, Curtis, maybe time to have a little
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estrogen therapy because your testosterone is exploding all over the
streets and subways. And I concur. I concur. I concur. Oh, yeah. No,
I have to get control of myself at times.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
So do you think the world would be a better
place if women ran things?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
More and more women are, if you notice. And for
one reason and one reason alone, they've tried to have
men in elected position, appointed position. And the problem is
they can't keep their rocket in their pocket. They get
into all kinds of problems. These are generally problems that
women face. aren't likely to have as men. Men reach
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a certain point, right, and all of a sudden they
seem to self-destruct because they can't control their libido. Now,
I have told you this on a previous occasion, but
I can see that you and Diamond are dense because
you have no idea what the hell I'm talking about.
Saltpeter is their cure. As the historian of Sauce on
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the Side with Gandhi and Diamond, I can only tell
you that when men were in the military during World
War II, or if they were in prison and you
had large gatherings in a frat, in their oatmeal in
the morning, their H.O. Oats would be put saltpeter because
it would make them flaccid instead of turgid. And the
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women were safe and secure. You didn't have to lock
them up because the barbarians were loose, raping and pillaging
and taking advantage of the femme fatales out there. This
is what happens in politics. Look at what's happening in
the House of Representatives. It doesn't matter if you're a man, Democrat, man, Republican.
They're all in trouble because they can't control their urges.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Where does one get salt, Peter? Asking for a friend.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Potassium nitrate is what they make dynamite out of. Oh, wait.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
They were putting that into people's food?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yes, Diamond. Use your AI, artificial intelligence, right now because
she believes in AI. I don't. I believe in actual intelligence.
But when you look up potassium nitrate, a.k.a. saltpeter, it
is basically one of the components for dynamite. Am I
correct or am I incorrect here? Notice it'll take a
few seconds for AI to kick in. Hold on. Even
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AI is confused when I talk about this old remedy
to soothe the savage beast known as men.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Was saltpeter in dynamite?
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
I believe you.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
I have to say. Potassium nitrate. Saltpeter. Wait.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Potassium nitrate. Oh, that's because I spelled it wrong.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Okay. See? Look, look, look. Potassium. Wow. You got a
smartphone or is that an idiot phone today?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
It's usually an idiot phone.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Is that Google? Are you Googling? Are you using artificial intelligence?
Speaker 1 (26:50):
The thing that popped up was no, potassium nitrate was
not a standard ingredient in traditional dynamite. It said no.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
What? I respectfully disagree with artificial intelligence and Google.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
It gets it wrong all the time.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Oh, no. I'm right and it is wrong. Gunpowder. In fact,
why don't we go to the prediction markets? What do
they call that? Polygrip? Polymarket? Whatever they call those things.
And see if I'm right or if I'm wrong, right?
We'll see what the betting line is on that.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Oh, God. I don't mess with any of those. That
seems like why nobody's working. Did you know that one
out of three men who are able-bodied of working age
are not working?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yes. That's crazy. Well, it's easy to say that they're
gold bricks, slackers, deadbeats, nor do wells.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Right, right.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
But now, with the wave of artificial intelligence, look at
some of these young men and young women. It's not
exclusive to young men.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
No, it's exclusive to young men. That number is men.
But go ahead. Go ahead.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Okay. Yeah. Let me make my case here.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
I'm sorry. Make your case.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Because of artificial intelligence, many young men and young women...
went to school, four-year education, got a graduate degree. Maybe
they were going to become public accountants. Maybe they were
going to become analysts. Maybe they were going to become e-attorneys.
And now they've been told by the masters of the universe,
no need for you to work. This is going to
be a universal income. We don't need you. We have
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artificial intelligence. So people feel emasculated. You understand? It's not
that they're not willing to work. Some. There's no question.
Their slack is in deadbeats. But the mass majority have
done exactly what we asked this generation to do. Work hard. Study.
Go to graduate school. Get a degree. Get a career.
And then all of a sudden, no room for you
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because we've replaced you with artificial intelligence. Do you understand
that kind of degradation? Do you understand that kind of emasculation?
Speaker 1 (28:46):
I do.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
I identify. I do.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
How do you identify?
Speaker 2 (28:49):
You have a job. That's true. But let's face it.
At this rate, artificial intelligence can't replace me because nobody
talks like me. And in fact, artificial intelligence, if you
were to press that in right now and say, could
you just take his conversation and what Curtis just said
and print me out a translation? Artificial intelligence would be stymied.
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Because nobody talks the way Curtis Lee does.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
I will say there's not a chance I could ever
finish a sentence for you. Because whatever I think you're
about to say, never is what you say.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
But I noticed the Sphinx here today has been Diamond.
Diamond has been uber quiet.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
She's half working. So she had to stay on that side.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Oh, I forgot. Somebody has to do the work here
instead of just bust their gums.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
She has been laughing. Unfortunately, the microphones are not picking
her chuckles up. They've been making... me laugh a lot, too.
She really liked your horse impression.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
I don't know if you can hear it. Wait a second.
Are you laughing at me to patronize me? Diamond, stop
patronizing me.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
I'm laughing at you because you're insane. That's why. You
actually made me laugh. That was funny.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
What did you do?
Speaker 1 (29:58):
The horse think you do it again for me, please.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Those are my buddies, the horses. I would love, if
there's one thing I could do in life, free all
the horses in Central Park. Free the carriage horses and
frolic with them at some sanctuary in the middle of nowhere, Pennsylvania.
Leave it to Beaverland, Father Knows Best, and Little House
on the Prairie. That's what I would really love to do.
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Free all the horses from the racetracks and then go
out into the heartland of America, the Southwest, and save
the Mustangs from the evil grip of the Trump administration
who would sell them for $ 25 a head to make
chopped meat out of them.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yes, all those things. I'm entertained by you today. I'm
not going to lie. You're being funny. You're not doing
it on purpose. This is just who you are. But
then you're also making a lot of sense. I love it.
You have had some really good points today.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
There are some really good little clips here. Unpredictable.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Incredibly lucid. Very unpredictable. You know what's funny and why
he will never, ever succumb to AI? Because AI looks
for patterns.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
You.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
have no patterns. Well, some of them. You have some patterns.
But for the most part, it's like all over the map.
You can't really peg who you are, which I like.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
A stream of consciousness, which is not what AI is.
AI needs a format to be able to operate. As
I said, I believe in AI, actual intelligence, not artificial intelligence.
And I will battle AI till the day I die.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
I believe that also. I do want to address one thing,
and then we will wrap it up here. You told
me yesterday that Diamond was ghosting you.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Yes. What?
Speaker 1 (31:50):
So I asked Diamond a question, and then she gave
me the answer, and I was like, ah, thank you.
Curtis said you were ghosting him. She said, what is
he talking about? Yeah, what are you talking about? How
did you get ghosted?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
You see, I understand because I have street smarts. I
may not have book smarts. I may not have gone
on to college. I may not have a graduate degree
from a university. No, but I have street smarts and
you have ghosted me.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
What did I do, Curtis?
Speaker 2 (32:17):
It's not what you did. It's what you think. And
I believe, I believe in my heart of hearts that
you have thought of ghosting me.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (32:32):
This is a tremendous compliment. See, you're taking it as
a negative. No, I just don't know what you're talking about. Ghost. Oh,
one of my favorite movies of all time. It made
me cry.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
We're circling the drain here, Curtis.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
It made me cry. By the way, one last thing
we forgot. What? Celebrities. How when they are born child stars,
they get abused and misused.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Yeah, I believe the term he used was getting perved out.
But also you completely ducked and dodged whether or not
Diamond actually ghosted you. I appreciate the politician in you.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
She did.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
You're saying she ghosted you.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
What?
Speaker 1 (33:05):
She's looking at her phone saying she didn't ghost you.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
I have the documentary evidence that you have ghosted me.
I will save it for a future edition of Sauce
on the Side with Gandhi and Diamond.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Did you know?
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Even though right now on the monitors it does say
Sauce on the Side. You and I, this is a
spinoff podcast.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Spinoff.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
This is our own thing.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
You and I. Oh, my God.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
And Diamond.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
What do we call it?
Speaker 1 (33:32):
So many times.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
What do we call it? The old Alta Kaka and
the two Gen Zers? What do we call it? Sure.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
How do you spell that word?
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Alta Kaka. You know, when a guy is feeding the
pigeons in a park and mumbling to himself.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Okay. You know what?
Speaker 2 (33:49):
By the way, you brought up the image of child
stars and starlets being abused.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Okay, you did bring that up.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
No greater example than the great Gary Coleman. Remember of
different strokes, Gary Coleman?
Speaker 1 (34:02):
I know who you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Shorty short, Gary Coleman, who was so depleted of his
resources after making people gazillions of dollars that he ended
up becoming a security officer. Remember? Yeah. Gary Coleman almost
became governor of California in that special election. No, he didn't.
When he ran in that recall election against Arnold Schwarzenegger
and about 158 others. Oh, man, I looked at Gary Coleman.
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I said, man, this is a guy who's not going
to max and relax because the monies have run out
of all the money that he made for others when
he was a child star. He's going to go out
there and be a security officer. And he's going to
earn his way through life. I salute you, Gary Coleman.
We've lost a great role model, an example of one
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who has survived the, what can we call it? The
butcher shop effect of Hollywood on young people. Okay.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
So that's what we wanted to talk about, which was
Hayden Panettiere recently passed away. 36 years old. Very sad.
Obviously when someone is 36 and they die suddenly, there
are a lot of things around that that could have happened.
I think it's really sad that everybody is already just
making assumptions and speculating and Every single day, multiple times
a day, we see a different headline about it. I
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think it's very sad to just not let her family
have at least peace while this is going on before
we get any answers. You think, which I agree with,
that a lot of this has to do with, how
did you say it, getting perved out as a kid
in Hollywood?
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Yeah. perved out by a number of different factors and
people in Hollywood. We love the child stars and starlets.
We look at them and say, oh, wow, they probably
have future stardom in the stars. And then we fail
to realize how many of them have been used, abused,
and then just turned out and left on the sidelines
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by a culture that looks at them, seizes on them,
Puts them on the big screen, chews them up and
spits them out and waits for the next young person
to walk in so they can be. There are monsters
out there, many of them well-known people. And unfortunately, they'll
go to their graves with the sins that they've committed
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against these young stars and starlets who have been completely abused.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
So you think that this like Hollywood circle of child
predators is real life?
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Yeah. Now, a lot of them would say they're not
child predators, that when you walk in the land of
stars and starlets, you are treated like an adult. How
do you treat a 13 year old like an adult?
How do you treat a 17 year old like an adult?
They're not adults. They're just not adults. But they they
they prescribe this. I mean, we go back to Judy Garland, right?
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Long before your time. The Wizard of Oz, Judy Garland. Oh,
and she clicks her heels. Auntie Em, I want to
come back to Kansas. I want to come back to Kansas.
You look at her life. You look at other young
people's lives who've gone through that meat grinder known as Hollywood.
And you say to yourself, why have so many of
them been so abused? Why do they have so many
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problems afterwards? Well, look at the culture. There's no supervision.
There's no attendance to their needs. It's what can they
do for us, make us money, and more importantly, be
there so we can exploit them. Not everybody in Hollywood.
I mean, to call it a land of pedophilia, that's
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an extreme statement, but enough so that there are people
there who know what goes on and they've never done
an intervention.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
So what do you think is the solution?
Speaker 2 (37:37):
The solution is we have to have child labor laws
to protect them and also from their own parents who
exploit them. There's a lot of money to be made,
you know, taking them on modeling sessions when they're two
years old or three years old, taking them for go-sees
on Broadway, off-Broadway, for potential roles in movies. Okay, you
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can do some of that, but let them be a kid.
Let them breathe.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
You think you should replace child actors with.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Like, A.I.? No, I would never replace Rio. Remember, I'm
a proud member of SAG-AFTRA. As you know, the nanny
was our leader who caused the walkout, except she didn't
include radio people. I was ready to join the nanny
on the walkout with SAG-AFTRA against AI, artificial intelligence.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Why didn't you just do it? You didn't have to
be invited.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
I couldn't believe that. They took everybody. TV. They took
script writers.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
They didn't even tell us.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
People involved with movies. Everyone except radio people. I said,
what are we, people of no consequence? Nanny, you went
to Hillcrest High School. You were from Queens. Your sister
in solidarity said, no, thank you, Curtis. We got it.
We got it. I said, I remember that picture of
Ronald Reagan when he was the president of SAG-AFTRA. He
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was a Democrat at the time with Marilyn Monroe walking
the line in 1961 on strike. Come on, me and you, nanny.
She looked at me and said, we got it. Don't
worry about it. Stay there in radio. We got it.
I felt like just unworthy. Here it is. I was
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ready to hit the bricks. Go out on strike with
my brothers and sisters in solidarity.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Listen, the picture you're painting is making me feel sad
for you.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Workers united forever.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Diamond said she believes every second of this.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
She were ready to go with your little... and just
got left out like watching everybody else go storm the
place here's inside looking from the glass.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
I was turned down by the nanny to go out
on strike for my union sag effort solidarity forever have.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
You reached out to her personally about this.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
No, she never returned my message.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
That's ghosting. That is how you get ghosted. Diamond here
says that she replied to your message.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
No, no, no. Diamond's been ghosting me. Oh, I could tell.
I could tell. Under various surnames, various emails, various texts,
various calls that have come in unsolicited, I might add.
I need to put up a firewall. I'm getting ghosted
by Diamond.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
What do you think ghosting means?
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Look, I'm not paranoid. I'm not schizophrenic. But I know
what it means to be ghosted.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
What does it mean?
Speaker 2 (40:20):
I know when somebody is on my trail. I know
when somebody is ready to put me six feet under
in a grave.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
That's stalking.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
I'm not suggesting that Diamond is a hit woman. Or
a spider. But I am saying that there is something
nefarious about the way she operates. And I will be
on my guard. I have my guard up when it
comes to Diamond. You, Gandhi? Yeah. You're peace, love, and happiness.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
So I don't have to keep my guard up. But
for Diamond from the Ville, never ran, never will, I've
got to keep my guard up. Because she is an SWA.
Sister with attitude.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Actually, I have one question for you.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
You eat meat?
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Excuse me?
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Do you eat meat?
Speaker 2 (41:02):
No more red meat. No more chicken. Some fish.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
So you're a pescatarian.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Whatever that means.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
I could have just called you anything and you would
have agreed with it. A pescatarian is really fish only.
Seafood only.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
You mean... I can take a fish and turn it
into multiple fish. I can take a loaf of bread
and turn it into multiple loaves. I can teach you
how to fish.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
I'm sad I asked this question.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Wait a second. That's Jesus Christ. Hold on a second
before we go there.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
I just wanted to know. Okay, that is all.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Well, remember, I have Crohn's disease.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
I'm subject to not being able to eat a lot
of stuff. It could cause me a lot of problems.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
But you drank the water out of a horse trough.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
In solidarity with that beast of burden, because if they're
going to be forced to drink that swill, I'm going
to drink it too.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
My God, man.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
I toast all the horses in Central Park.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
A toast to you, one of the only people I
know who genuinely walks the walk and doesn't just talk
the talk. I find it terrifying, but I also really
appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
It's quite all right if it's good enough for the
horses in Central Park.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
It's not true.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
It's good enough for Curtis Sliwa. Curtis?
Speaker 1 (42:20):
On that note, if people want to find you online,
have you figured out what your Instagram name is yet?
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Everything at Curtis Sliwa, right?
Speaker 1 (42:27):
No, I think it's Curtis Sliwa for mayor.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Curtis, whatever. You know, I'm a Luddite. Instagram. Let's see.
Do you have a TikTok? Facebook, X, TikTok.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Do you TikTok?
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Oh, yeah. Substack. The whole nine yards. Okay.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
All of these things, Curtis Lewa is how you find him.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Oh, and by the way, I'm going to be dropping
my late summer choices in EDM, electronic dance music. Oh,
my God. People have been waiting for that.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
I know they have.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Because they know I'm the EDM dance master extraordinaire. I'm
like a whirling dervish hours and hours.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
And we're going to get you on Dancing with the
Stars if it kills us.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
You haven't done that. I haven't yet. I didn't want
to bring that up because that's a sore point with me.
You're just poses, both you and Diamond. You're poses.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
I'm not a booker or a talent agent.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
It doesn't matter. You said you would get me.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
On Dancing with the Stars. No, I said we would try.
We will try.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Who can dance better than me at 72?
Speaker 1 (43:22):
I've never even seen you dance. I saw you drop
it low once and it was great.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
No, you saw it, Gay Pride. You saw me on
that float. Was I not? I was twerking. Who the
hell at 72 can twerk like that? Thank you.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
No, nobody.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
Okay. Don't be fronting me anymore. What? Don't be fronting me.
You either deliver or drop it about Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Okay, we're going to try for Dancing with the Stars
at Curtis Lewa for Mayor on Instagram. And I guess
just search Curtis Lewa everywhere else if you want to
find him.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
Or in Central Park, drinking the water with my friends,
the horses who pull those carriages with those fat tourists
who need Ozempic.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
Let me tell you now, I'm going to be so
mad if what takes you out is dirty water. You
have survived like a rat through so many things. If
you get taken out by this dirty water that you
voluntarily ingested, I'm going to be very upset.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Did you know before I had Crohn's disease, I used
to eat the dirty water hot dogs? You know, the
ones you get at the stand when they be in
the hot water. Those are dirty water hot dogs.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
That's different than the horse trough and you know it.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
I love the horseshoes. Oh, my God.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
I know you do.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Say bye, Curtis.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
We're going to cut.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
I just asked you a question off the air that
I now want to ask you on the air because
I think that we could actually make something happen here.
Do you like Mayor Mamdani?
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Oh, I certainly don't dislike him. We seem to have
gotten along a few times that we've had a conversation
during the campaign when we were debating. And when I
play the role of Dr. Cletus, remember when I gave
him the vaccine so he could have the cats that
he was allergic to? But I think the way to
handle this, since we are different in our points of view,
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he's the AM mayor. That's when most of the business
of the city is done. But there's a certain point
when he goes to sleep at night at Gracie Mansion.
And what has the Gen Z generation labeled me but
the Nightmare? Night.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
Pause.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
Mayor. Correct.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Not the Nightmare.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
No.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
The Night.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Night. Pause. Mayor.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
What would you like to do in a dream world
if you were able to work with his administration? What
role do you want there? Three.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Okay. Care for the homeless, care for the emotionally disturbed,
care for the animals. That's a lot. And those are
the big problems in the city right now that I
don't think he can get a grip on, nor could Adams,
nor could de Blasio or any other mayor. They've all
had homeless people, all had emotionally disturbed, and they all
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had shelters with euthanized unwanted animals. I would deal with
all three. I'd take that off his plate.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
All right. I like it.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Thank you. Thank you. All right.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
And just like that, he leaves like a tornado. This
time I actually enjoyed him. I enjoy him every time.
I think he had a lot more solid points this
time than he usually does. But I have a good
time with old Kurt. I'm going to get him to
start letting me call him Kurt. In my head, I
call him Kurt all the time.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
Have you ever said it to him?
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Yeah, but I don't think he heard me. He didn't
have his hand earmuffs on.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
Yeah, he doesn't hear me. Excuse me? Yeah. I love it.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
So we didn't sign off the way I would like
us to sign off professionally, which is Diamond. If people
want to follow you online, where.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
Can they find you?
Speaker 1 (46:50):
At Diamond Sincere on Instagram. Curtis clearly has no idea
where you can find him, but we believe it is CurtisLewis4Mayor.
And then on whatever social media platform you're on, Curtis Lewa,
I'm sure, will take you to something fascinating. I am
at Baby Hot Sauce. And we have a lot of
other stuff happening right now.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
We have a YouTube channel.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
Did you know that?
Speaker 2 (47:08):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
It's going swimmingly. I actually have no idea. I think
we have like a video up there. But you can
watch like the full long form version of this podcast.
Can you also watch this still on the app? You
can watch it on the app, right?
Speaker 2 (47:20):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
You can watch it on the iHeartRadio app. But we
want you to like, follow, subscribe to the podcast, to
the YouTube channel, please.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
These instructions are getting so long. Follow us on Instagram.
Leave us a talk back. All you have to do
is hit the little microphone button and you can chat
with us about things. Also, leave us a review. It's
a lot of instructions. If you just want to do
one of those things, I'd appreciate it. Follow the Instagram
page at Sauce on the Side. Like, there's so much.
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Anything from you?
Speaker 2 (47:51):
Oh, no. Okay.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
Curtis, we loved you today.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (47:55):
I love you every day. I got to be honest.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
That is you being an SWA.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
Sister with attitude.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
I'm like, okay. Here we go again. And on that note,
we will see you soon. Say bye, Diamond.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Bye.
We just found out that apparently you also spent a
lot of time in sewers, which doesn't shock me, but
kind of does. And why is this relevant right now?
And why have you spent a lot of time in
the sewer?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Because one of the many advocations that I sought as
a wayward youth was to be a sanitational engineer. Okay.
which meant that you had to go down into the
sewer system. Now, there was a plausible reason for that,
is that I eventually became... The commissioner of stickball in
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the city of New York, because that was my game.
And I know that was before both of your time,
but you would play that with a Spalding or a
Pensy Pinky, the little pink ball that oftentimes we'd go
into a catch basin and go in the sewer. So
all those balls would be deposited there, and I would
be the brave one to risk going down into the
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slime and grime and the smell and stench where sometimes alligators...
would actually.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Exist you saw an alligator in the sewer yes.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I did in a catch basin by the paddock invasion
uh off of canarsie there was a alligator there that
was looking at me like it hadn't eaten in a
month of sunday so feet don't fail me now i'm
getting the.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Hell out of here was it a little one big
one no.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
It was quite big i would say probably about five.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Foot did you report it Who are you going to report.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
It to back then? This is the late 60s, early 70s.
There was no 9-1-1. There was no 3-1-1.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
There was no 9-1-1 in the 60s?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
No.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
When did 9-1-1 start?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
9-1-1 started just about at that time. But how are
you going to call 9-1-1 from a sewer? You had
no cell phones.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Okay, this is a good point.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
And by the pay phones, many of them were broken into.
People would have sharpened screwdrivers and break into it for
the quarters. So what were you going to do? Send
smoke signals up?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
So you go into the sewer. You see an alligator.
You come out of the sewer. And you just go
about your day like, hey, just a heads up, there's
an alligator in the sewer.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
No. Okay. I was traumatized. It used to be.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
We finally found the thing that would traumatize you. Not
getting shot. Not all the other things, but the gator
in the sewer.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Big gator in the sewer there. The paddock in patient.
By the way, remember, that was the urban myth. Because
so many people would go down to Florida, where you're
originally from, and on their way back Old Dixie Highway
before they built to, you know, the thoroughfare, they'd be
selling baby alligators all the way on their way up,
little cardboard boxes. By the time you get home, your
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mommy would say, what are you going to do with that? Well,
we'll put it in the bathtub. And before you knew it,
that little baby gator was a bigger gator.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Big old gator.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
And then your mom or your dad or somebody said,
we're just going to have to flush it down the toilet.
And that's what a lot of people did. Now, most
of the alligators didn't survive, but some of them remained alive. Yuck.
In the sewers in New York City. And I can
attest to that.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Okay, because you were in the sewers. Why are we
talking about sewers right now?
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Because have you noticed some young, intrepid men have decided
to venture down into the sewer system?
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I've seen some women coming out of there, too. But yeah,
I have noticed.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
How do you know that they're men, women, or they're
in transition? Do you have any idea?
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I don't, actually. Some of them appeared to be women
to me.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Okay, I'll accept that. And I believe that they're down
there scavenging. This is the old tradition. You go down
into the sewer system. A lot of things get flushed
into the toilet or they end up in a catch basin.
They've been lost. And just like people will get onto
a beach and they have those metal detectors going up
and down. You probably knew that from Miami Beach. You
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probably knew that from Plum Beach, Diamond, right along the
Bell Parkway, where they would have those metal detectors and
they would find sometimes hidden treasures of what people had
lost or left behind. It's the same thing in the sewer.
So I believe that they've actually gone down there with
all of this weather, extreme weather, which is the result of, yes,
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global warming and climate change.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Oh, he acknowledges it.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Love that. Oh, totally. I'm the only one to acknowledge
it on the station I broadcast from WOR. But the
point being is because of the flush of the water,
It pushes anything up against a catch basin. There's a
secondary catch basin down there. So it's almost like a net.
And then you go through it like you're panning for gold.
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Like it's the old gold rush in California. Yuck.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
But here's my question. We don't see them really going
down there with stuff or coming out with stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Well, you stuff that in your pockets because, remember, they're
small items of value. It could be a ring. It
could be a watch. It could be any number of things.
And the next thing you know, it's in the hock shop,
better known as the pawn shop. And the pawn shop dealer,
they don't care. They don't care. You've seen those reality
shows about pawn shops, right?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Trust me, they'll take anything. Everything has a price.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
People are basically like panning the poop for whatever they
can find, and they're coming out. You don't think there's
anything nefarious.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
They use shovels, little shovels. So they go in there,
little shovels, and they shovel it. And by the way, hey.
You'll probably have a better chance of finding something of
value in the sewer than you would have hitting the
lotto or Powerball or any of those games of chance
that they call.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Okay, that's fair. So no problem with the sewer people.
Let them do what they do.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
And there are the mole people. Let's not leave them out.
They're not necessarily mining for any kind of gold, but
they live in the subway system. down by 2nd Avenue,
by East Broadway in the Lower East Side. They live
in the Amtrak tunnels along the west side when you
take Amtrak from Penn Station and you're going up to Albany.
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They're living in there. They're tapping into the electricity. They're
watching cable television.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Like the Ninja Turtles.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Exactly. Where do you think that idea came from? And
in fact, when you get the book, The Mole People,
which was quite the top seller at one point, The
attribution by the authoress is, I was guided through this
process by Curtis Sliwa, who knew all the mole people
by their first name.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
You know all the mole people?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Back then I did, yes.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Do you know any of, are there currently mole people?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yes, yes, I know some of them. I know some
of them.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
How do you get to know them? Just when you're
down there? How do you get to know them?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Well, because they see you, you see them. They know
who you are. They're not oblivious. Some of them are
more emotionally disturbed. They're homeless. They're survivors. And they've seen
me in and out of that subway system, in and
out of those tunnels for years. Or they've watched it
on the TVs that they are tapping into the electricity
that's right there on the wall. That's you. You're the
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guy who ran for mayor. That's right. I'm the choice
of the mole people, the sewer people. At least I
know I got that vote.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
The choice of the mole people. I saw you get
into a little altercation the other day that I got
to say, I nearly puked when I was watching it.
You were in Central Park.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
You were going back and forth with one of the
horse carriage drivers. Is that what we would call them?
They're not driving.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yes, yes. The horse carriage drivers. Yes. You know, like
from Sex and the City. Please take us on a
ride through Central Park. How about Barrick? Yes. That's why
I give these guys grief whenever I see them.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
So you were giving this guy shit.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
And he's yelling at you. And then you did something
that knocked me off my feet. You stuck your hands
into the horse water.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
And you drank it or put it on your face,
whatever it was.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Both. Why? Why? Because I identify with who come out
as they say in Italian, the horses. I am there
to save the horses. Look how depressed they are. Look
how enslaved they are. And you know what that horse
carriage driver was screaming at me? You'll never be mayor.
I heard him. You'll never be mayor. I said, oof,
to you, I'm here for the horses. If they're going
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to drink this swill, and that's what it is, then
I'm going to drink it too. And I got to
tell you, it was nasty with a capital N.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Curtis, what did you expect? That's disgusting. I was like,
he really does have the constitution of a cockroach. Or
as you said, a rat. How do you not get
sick from that? You did it twice. In that one video,
you did it twice.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Why, man? Might I remind you, on that very same
day I was in the Lower East Side recreating the
time that I got shot five times with hollow point bullets.
If I did not succumb to lead poisoning, what makes
you think that I would succumb to the swill, unfortunately,
that the Horse carriages, excuse me, the horses who pull
those carriages. If you notice with tourists who could use
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a little Ozumpic, you know, like all of them are
400 pounds. You know, they're fighting over the croutons at
salad bars in Missouri and Iowa. And they come here
for a horse carriage ride. Think they could use a
little Ozumpic? Okay. Okay.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
This, first of all, we just went down so many
different trails here. The amount of people that are killed
by water every year is so much higher than the
amount of people killed by gunfire every year because water
carries so many deadly, awful things. We're in the middle
of a cyclospora crisis right now because of, you know,
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this guy who's in charge of everything, cut all the
budgets for everything. And you're out here just tempting the fates,
drinking horse water out of the trough.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
That's right, because I identify with these downtrodden beasts of
burden who need to be free to frolic. Like I
identify with the horses in the horse racing industry, which
is barbaric. That must be stopped. Like I identify with
the Mustangs, a symbol of American freely roaming the plains
and now being rounded up by Donald Trump, who hates
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all animals.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
He's a mean person. He's mean.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Oh he hates animals he hates.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Anything that brings people joy except for him he's.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Disgusting but 25 ahead he's selling them so they can
be taken to the slaughterhouse so that they can be
sold for meat in canada the argentines and also italy
where they eat more horse meat than anywhere else in
the world That's a double U discraziata. And I'm out
to ban that. A Mustang is a symbol of freedom
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in America.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Aren't they protected?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
They were protected.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Lifted those protections along with the national parks.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
But then again, Donald Trump determines who's protected and not protected.
So if you make money for the Trump family, you're protected.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
So I have a question for you. And how are
things going for you over at WOR?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Splendidly. Yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:46):
This isn't complicating your relationship with anyone over there, right?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
No, because we've become number one in the morning now
against our competition in talk radio. Ah, talk radio. Where
I used to work WABC, which now the acronym stands
for Always Blaming Curtis for the Victory of Zorhan Mandami
and Always Bashing Curtis.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
One day you'll get his name.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I've come over to WOR. They partnered me up with
Larry Menti, and it's a balanced show. We have differences
of opinion, and we've become number one in talk radio
in the morning.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Well, congratulations.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Thank you. Thank you, Gandhi. Diamond, do I hear a hip, hip, hooray, ha-ha, hoo-hoo?
wow what's that euphoric what.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
She meant was hip hip hooray ha ha hoo hoo
i was wondering because one of the the questions that
we get all the time and i know you and
i have talked about this is how did this guy
run as a conservative he does not seem to be
super conservative all of your views and opinions seem to
lean in the other direction so i'm gonna ask you
again what about you is conservative and how did you
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get onto conservative talk radio and run as a republican.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
I think there is a misnomer there. I've never run
as a conservative. There is a conservative party in New York.
They have not offered me their line to run, nor
have I accepted it, because I have really nothing in
common with them. I happen to know who those people are.
I just don't agree with anything they stand for. Okay.
I am an independent, autonomous, individual, free agent who happens
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to be on the Republican line. But then again, nobody
knows the opinion that Curtis Lee was going to have
on any issue until.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I— Literally never.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Never. Never. Because I'm not in a box. I'm not
going to repeat the echo chamber of what Democrats do
or Republicans do. It's sort of like I size up
the issue and I say, no, no, this is my
opinion on this issue, whether you like it or you
don't like it. So be it. That's what America is
all about. Having as many different opinions as possible, as
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many different parties, as many different discussions as possible. Words
do not hurt you. As you know, I know what
hurts you. And it's not words.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Five hollow point bullets.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Why were you reenacting that?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Remember, June 19th of 1992, on the orders of John
Gotti Jr. How can we forget? Excuse me, senior to
John Gotti Jr. in the Gambino crime family. Touche.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Who, by the way, these people are all still alive, right?
Not senior.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Not senior. Senior went straight to hell without an asbestos suit.
You know, he died of throat cancer. Okay. And when
I heard that he was suffering with throat cancer in Springfield, Missouri,
which is the federal prison, I was dancing the Tarantella.
I couldn't wait till he would die and burn in hell.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Oh, my hell.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Does this give you an idea? Of the way I
feel about the Gottis and the Gambinos? You know what?
Speaker 1 (13:36):
I would probably feel the same way if somebody shot
me five times with hollow point bullets. I'm not sure
that I'd be so bold once the dude who did
it was out of jail just wandering around. But you
are a different breed, my friend.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Thank you very much. And I appreciate you as my
sister in solidarity.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Oh, God.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Because we are all part of the I heart family.
Us and we, not I and me. Okay. You see,
that's a good one, right?
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Let me tell you what I almost did the other day.
I got invited to an event with 50 Cent.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
50? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Your man. No, no, no.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
He culturally appropriated my name.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Oh, please.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
He did. I was Curtis before him. Okay. So there
were no black courtesies. Just because he got shot nine times,
you thought he was better than me?
Speaker 1 (14:26):
He did outdo you, I have to say. He did.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
You know who did that? Rumor is Southeast Jamaica's Jaro
and his boys. That's the rumor. Rochdale, you know, right.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
In the shadow of it. I need you to stop
alleging that people did certain things that are still alive
and will show up at this building.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
So were you saying nice things about 50 Cent, the misogynist,
the sexist that he's always been, huh?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Oh, you don't like him. I thought you liked him.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
No, I don't.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I almost invited you to come to the event with me.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
No, no, no. Because I thought Curtis and Curtis. No, no, no.
50 Cent. Not my cup of tea.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Are you kidding? 50 Cent? He's a fake, phony, fraudulent fugazi.
Come on, man. He's a so-called tough guy. And yet,
when he got shot nine times, he disappeared from Southeast Jamaica.
Where'd he go?
Speaker 1 (15:14):
That's what most people would do, Curtis.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Did he go into the 40 Projects? Did he go
out there and say, I'm going to seek vengeance and revenge? No,
he disappeared. And now he's rolling in dough making all
these films, you know, about thugs.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
It makes sense. once you've been shot a bunch of
times in one specific area, to not go to that
area anymore. What you do is exactly opposite of the
things that make sense, and I respect it, but it's
not really that weird that he got out of there.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Excuse me, I jump.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
We honor that you're still hanging out with the mole people.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
I jump from the frying pan right into the fire.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
I know you do. And you're going to take us
all there with you.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
So please don't insult me by mentioning Curtis Jackson, a.k.a.
50 Cent, who culturally appropriated my name.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
That's not how that works. Not how that works. So
we were talking about the Manosphere the other day, which
I think plays into a lot of all of this
crap that's going on.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Hey, that's 50 Cent. Misogynist, sexist.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
He's not part of the Manosphere.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Oh, yes, he is.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
No, he's not. What do you think the Manosphere is?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
The Manosphere is these macho, maniacal guys who walk around
with testosterone crashing through their cranium, who degrade women whenever
they have an opportunity to do it, which is privately
and publicly. Love to go to UFC fights, even though
they wouldn't have the culions, the huevos, to get into
the ring. I feel that is beneath what people should
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be doing, UFC fights. Come on, a guy's on the ground.
You're going to be stomping him. I understand you've got
to do that in the street to survive, but not
in the octagon ring. And they pretend like they are
the straw that stirs the drink. And they're not. Look
at the Tate brothers, right? Look at all the followers
of them. Here they are entrapping women, sex trafficking, the
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worst perversions that ever existed. And they think that's what
it is to be a man. No. They have a
lot of insecurity. They're very neurotic. And I question if
they even like women. You know, they may be part
of the incel groups.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I think that the manosphere is the gayest place that
has ever existed. Because all of these dudes are doing
things for other dudes and acting like women are the
devil and the enemy. And then they're doing push-ups about
it with no shirts. And they're creating gyms for men
only so that they're not tempted by the women who
are there. There's a lot of really weird stuff going on.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Incels, right?
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Incels a little bit.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
By the way, I think also you would turn them
as sort of closet homosexuals. Yeah. I would say they're
more metrosexuals. They're in love with themselves.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Okay, maybe there's a little bit of that.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
No one else can compete with themselves. Look at the
Tate brothers, right? You would think they were God's gift
to the world. I can't wait. If they could put
them on Devil's Island, which used to exist off Panama,
and never let them escape, that would be a good
day for us. They are evil with a capital E.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
No, they're the worst. They're awful. And they created this
entire generation. I want to say the whole generation, but
a giant group of people who are following along with
their lead right now. And anything that happens, whether it's
a school shooting. It's blamed on women. Schools are getting
shot up because of women. Because women will not have
sex with guys, so they get pent up and they
get angry, and then they shoot up a school, and
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it is our fault. Everything is the fault of women,
which is crazy. Which Diamond and I were talking about
the WNBA the other day, which I know is something
that you cared about.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
And why this trolling is going on to the players
at the WNBA. Like, they have done anything to deserve this.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
You're so totally right. Now, just imagine, you're at a
game in Madison Square Garden. Mm-hmm. And it's the ladies
who are playing instead of the Knicks, let's say, versus
the Sixers now with LeBron James. And guys are throwing
dildos out onto the hard world court. First of all,
how unmanly. What kind of a man would do something
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like that? And they're giggling. That sounded like the horse. Well,
pretty much. And then all of a sudden you have
this guy who I used to like, Cantor. You know,
Freedom Cantor from Turkey who took on Erdogan, the dictator.
Played for the Celtics, played for the Knicks for two years.
Now he insists he identifies as a woman he wants
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to participate in the WNBA. That was never a problem
in the WNBA. They have a union. They have all
women that are in that union. Let them determine who
can play in their league and who's not going to
play in their league. But you're going to go to
a game like he did in Chicago and start bullying
these women as they're playing basketball on the hardwood? Right.
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And then wearing a shirt that says, I identify as
a woman. Hey, this guy has too much time on
his hands in retirement. let him get a basketball go
out there on the asphalt and play in the playground
because come on leave the women alone to play their
own game they're doing quite a good job by the
way ratings are up attendance is up And they're finally
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getting some equity in terms of equality with the men
who play professional basketball.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
And the men just couldn't handle it. So they have
to come and stink up the place with all these
ridiculous actions. And they're going after the wrong people. It's weird.
I don't think you should be going after anybody for it.
It's very bizarre.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah, but they're bullies.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Of course they are.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
You see, again, what's UFC? Bullies. What are sexists and misogynists? Bullies.
What is the Manosphere? Bullies. Who is the easiest people
for them to bully? Women. Because then they can justify it. Now,
all of them are welcome to come bully me. Hey,
can't do it, right? Freedom Canty, you're like 6'10, you're
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like 285 pounds. He's like double my size. He ain't
going to bully me. So why are you bothering these
women who are playing a game where professionally they're competing
against one another? You're throwing dildos out onto the hardwood.
You're telling them you want to be able to play
against them. Hey... Get out on the hardwood and play
against men again. I know you had a career, but
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now all of a sudden you want to sort of
revive it at the expense of the women's game? Sorry.
Later for you guys.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Big losers. You've said twice, that's not even a man.
To you, what is the definition of, like, a man?
And I'm not trying to catch you up.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
No, not at all. A man's role in society is
to protect those who cannot protect themselves. So the elderly,
the infirm, children, that's what a man does. And a
man has to show humility and has to humble themselves
and treat women equally. It's kind of simple. I mean,
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it doesn't mean you're better than anybody else. It doesn't mean, oh,
you're the hunter, you know, all these old style myths. No,
it's that you were born with certain abilities that you
just happen to be lucky enough to have. Use it
for the benefit of society, not to the detriment of society.
And most of these guys I see nowadays, they talk,
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they squawk, they brag, they have no humility. It's an
I and me world. It's time to show some humility
because a real man doesn't need to say they're the best,
not like the rest.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Oh, my gosh. I agree. I like this. So one
of the things that my dad always told me was
men and women are equal. They're not the same, but
they're equal. So one plus three equals four. 2 plus
2 equals 4. Those things are equal. They're not the same.
You can work together... inequality to do things all the time,
but people have really started to blur these lines about
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equality and what that actually means, and, oh, you think
you're equal? Well, then, let's see if you can lift
this 200-pound barbell. Like, it's very weird how it's gone
down that path, so I like your version of it.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
I respectfully disagree with you. Women are superior to men.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
I mean, I would say that for sure.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Men by nature are predators, so they have to do
a lot to control... These instincts, which is to prey
on people, especially those who may be weak, who may
not be as strong as them, may not be as
intelligent as them, or may not be as able to
communicate as them. Women are nurturers. So when you want
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society taken care of, who does that? It's the women.
It's not the men. On occasion, it's the men. Mother Teresa, right?
She was in Calcutta. She was caring for the leper
colony with her fellow nuns. All of them were women.
You didn't see them with masks, playtakes, gloves, because they're nurturers.
They're carers. The world would be better off with more
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estrogen and not all this testosterone. I mean, look at
the testosterone. Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
He does not have testosterone, please. Don't even give him
that credit.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
But whoever is the Ayatollah there in Iran or whatever
other leader, they tend to be men. And they tend
to make situations worse than they were to begin with.
Instead of you add a little estrogen to the mix,
it has a calming effect. In fact, there have been
many who have suggested over time when they've seen me
off the hook, Curtis, maybe time to have a little
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estrogen therapy because your testosterone is exploding all over the
streets and subways. And I concur. I concur. I concur. Oh, yeah. No,
I have to get control of myself at times.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
So do you think the world would be a better
place if women ran things?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
More and more women are, if you notice. And for
one reason and one reason alone, they've tried to have
men in elected position, appointed position. And the problem is
they can't keep their rocket in their pocket. They get
into all kinds of problems. These are generally problems that
women face. aren't likely to have as men. Men reach
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a certain point, right, and all of a sudden they
seem to self-destruct because they can't control their libido. Now,
I have told you this on a previous occasion, but
I can see that you and Diamond are dense because
you have no idea what the hell I'm talking about.
Saltpeter is their cure. As the historian of Sauce on
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the Side with Gandhi and Diamond, I can only tell
you that when men were in the military during World
War II, or if they were in prison and you
had large gatherings in a frat, in their oatmeal in
the morning, their H.O. Oats would be put saltpeter because
it would make them flaccid instead of turgid. And the
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women were safe and secure. You didn't have to lock
them up because the barbarians were loose, raping and pillaging
and taking advantage of the femme fatales out there. This
is what happens in politics. Look at what's happening in
the House of Representatives. It doesn't matter if you're a man, Democrat, man, Republican.
They're all in trouble because they can't control their urges.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Where does one get salt, Peter? Asking for a friend.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Potassium nitrate is what they make dynamite out of. Oh, wait.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
They were putting that into people's food?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yes, Diamond. Use your AI, artificial intelligence, right now because
she believes in AI. I don't. I believe in actual intelligence.
But when you look up potassium nitrate, a.k.a. saltpeter, it
is basically one of the components for dynamite. Am I
correct or am I incorrect here? Notice it'll take a
few seconds for AI to kick in. Hold on. Even
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AI is confused when I talk about this old remedy
to soothe the savage beast known as men.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Was saltpeter in dynamite?
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
I believe you.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
I have to say. Potassium nitrate. Saltpeter. Wait.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Potassium nitrate. Oh, that's because I spelled it wrong.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Okay. See? Look, look, look. Potassium. Wow. You got a
smartphone or is that an idiot phone today?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
It's usually an idiot phone.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Is that Google? Are you Googling? Are you using artificial intelligence?
Speaker 1 (26:50):
The thing that popped up was no, potassium nitrate was
not a standard ingredient in traditional dynamite. It said no.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
What? I respectfully disagree with artificial intelligence and Google.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
It gets it wrong all the time.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Oh, no. I'm right and it is wrong. Gunpowder. In fact,
why don't we go to the prediction markets? What do
they call that? Polygrip? Polymarket? Whatever they call those things.
And see if I'm right or if I'm wrong, right?
We'll see what the betting line is on that.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Oh, God. I don't mess with any of those. That
seems like why nobody's working. Did you know that one
out of three men who are able-bodied of working age
are not working?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yes. That's crazy. Well, it's easy to say that they're
gold bricks, slackers, deadbeats, nor do wells.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Right, right.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
But now, with the wave of artificial intelligence, look at
some of these young men and young women. It's not
exclusive to young men.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
No, it's exclusive to young men. That number is men.
But go ahead. Go ahead.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Okay. Yeah. Let me make my case here.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
I'm sorry. Make your case.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Because of artificial intelligence, many young men and young women...
went to school, four-year education, got a graduate degree. Maybe
they were going to become public accountants. Maybe they were
going to become analysts. Maybe they were going to become e-attorneys.
And now they've been told by the masters of the universe,
no need for you to work. This is going to
be a universal income. We don't need you. We have
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artificial intelligence. So people feel emasculated. You understand? It's not
that they're not willing to work. Some. There's no question.
Their slack is in deadbeats. But the mass majority have
done exactly what we asked this generation to do. Work hard. Study.
Go to graduate school. Get a degree. Get a career.
And then all of a sudden, no room for you
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because we've replaced you with artificial intelligence. Do you understand
that kind of degradation? Do you understand that kind of emasculation?
Speaker 1 (28:46):
I do.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
I identify. I do.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
How do you identify?
Speaker 2 (28:49):
You have a job. That's true. But let's face it.
At this rate, artificial intelligence can't replace me because nobody
talks like me. And in fact, artificial intelligence, if you
were to press that in right now and say, could
you just take his conversation and what Curtis just said
and print me out a translation? Artificial intelligence would be stymied.
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Because nobody talks the way Curtis Lee does.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
I will say there's not a chance I could ever
finish a sentence for you. Because whatever I think you're
about to say, never is what you say.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
But I noticed the Sphinx here today has been Diamond.
Diamond has been uber quiet.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
She's half working. So she had to stay on that side.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Oh, I forgot. Somebody has to do the work here
instead of just bust their gums.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
She has been laughing. Unfortunately, the microphones are not picking
her chuckles up. They've been making... me laugh a lot, too.
She really liked your horse impression.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
I don't know if you can hear it. Wait a second.
Are you laughing at me to patronize me? Diamond, stop
patronizing me.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
I'm laughing at you because you're insane. That's why. You
actually made me laugh. That was funny.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
What did you do?
Speaker 1 (29:58):
The horse think you do it again for me, please.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Those are my buddies, the horses. I would love, if
there's one thing I could do in life, free all
the horses in Central Park. Free the carriage horses and
frolic with them at some sanctuary in the middle of nowhere, Pennsylvania.
Leave it to Beaverland, Father Knows Best, and Little House
on the Prairie. That's what I would really love to do.
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Free all the horses from the racetracks and then go
out into the heartland of America, the Southwest, and save
the Mustangs from the evil grip of the Trump administration
who would sell them for $ 25 a head to make
chopped meat out of them.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yes, all those things. I'm entertained by you today. I'm
not going to lie. You're being funny. You're not doing
it on purpose. This is just who you are. But
then you're also making a lot of sense. I love it.
You have had some really good points today.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
There are some really good little clips here. Unpredictable.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Incredibly lucid. Very unpredictable. You know what's funny and why
he will never, ever succumb to AI? Because AI looks
for patterns.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
You.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
have no patterns. Well, some of them. You have some patterns.
But for the most part, it's like all over the map.
You can't really peg who you are, which I like.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
A stream of consciousness, which is not what AI is.
AI needs a format to be able to operate. As
I said, I believe in AI, actual intelligence, not artificial intelligence.
And I will battle AI till the day I die.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
I believe that also. I do want to address one thing,
and then we will wrap it up here. You told
me yesterday that Diamond was ghosting you.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Yes. What?
Speaker 1 (31:50):
So I asked Diamond a question, and then she gave
me the answer, and I was like, ah, thank you.
Curtis said you were ghosting him. She said, what is
he talking about? Yeah, what are you talking about? How
did you get ghosted?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
You see, I understand because I have street smarts. I
may not have book smarts. I may not have gone
on to college. I may not have a graduate degree
from a university. No, but I have street smarts and
you have ghosted me.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
What did I do, Curtis?
Speaker 2 (32:17):
It's not what you did. It's what you think. And
I believe, I believe in my heart of hearts that
you have thought of ghosting me.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (32:32):
This is a tremendous compliment. See, you're taking it as
a negative. No, I just don't know what you're talking about. Ghost. Oh,
one of my favorite movies of all time. It made
me cry.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
We're circling the drain here, Curtis.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
It made me cry. By the way, one last thing
we forgot. What? Celebrities. How when they are born child stars,
they get abused and misused.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Yeah, I believe the term he used was getting perved out.
But also you completely ducked and dodged whether or not
Diamond actually ghosted you. I appreciate the politician in you.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
She did.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
You're saying she ghosted you.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
What?
Speaker 1 (33:05):
She's looking at her phone saying she didn't ghost you.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
I have the documentary evidence that you have ghosted me.
I will save it for a future edition of Sauce
on the Side with Gandhi and Diamond.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Did you know?
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Even though right now on the monitors it does say
Sauce on the Side. You and I, this is a
spinoff podcast.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Spinoff.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
This is our own thing.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
You and I. Oh, my God.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
And Diamond.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
What do we call it?
Speaker 1 (33:32):
So many times.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
What do we call it? The old Alta Kaka and
the two Gen Zers? What do we call it? Sure.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
How do you spell that word?
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Alta Kaka. You know, when a guy is feeding the
pigeons in a park and mumbling to himself.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Okay. You know what?
Speaker 2 (33:49):
By the way, you brought up the image of child
stars and starlets being abused.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Okay, you did bring that up.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
No greater example than the great Gary Coleman. Remember of
different strokes, Gary Coleman?
Speaker 1 (34:02):
I know who you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Shorty short, Gary Coleman, who was so depleted of his
resources after making people gazillions of dollars that he ended
up becoming a security officer. Remember? Yeah. Gary Coleman almost
became governor of California in that special election. No, he didn't.
When he ran in that recall election against Arnold Schwarzenegger
and about 158 others. Oh, man, I looked at Gary Coleman.
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I said, man, this is a guy who's not going
to max and relax because the monies have run out
of all the money that he made for others when
he was a child star. He's going to go out
there and be a security officer. And he's going to
earn his way through life. I salute you, Gary Coleman.
We've lost a great role model, an example of one
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who has survived the, what can we call it? The
butcher shop effect of Hollywood on young people. Okay.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
So that's what we wanted to talk about, which was
Hayden Panettiere recently passed away. 36 years old. Very sad.
Obviously when someone is 36 and they die suddenly, there
are a lot of things around that that could have happened.
I think it's really sad that everybody is already just
making assumptions and speculating and Every single day, multiple times
a day, we see a different headline about it. I
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think it's very sad to just not let her family
have at least peace while this is going on before
we get any answers. You think, which I agree with,
that a lot of this has to do with, how
did you say it, getting perved out as a kid
in Hollywood?
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Yeah. perved out by a number of different factors and
people in Hollywood. We love the child stars and starlets.
We look at them and say, oh, wow, they probably
have future stardom in the stars. And then we fail
to realize how many of them have been used, abused,
and then just turned out and left on the sidelines
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by a culture that looks at them, seizes on them,
Puts them on the big screen, chews them up and
spits them out and waits for the next young person
to walk in so they can be. There are monsters
out there, many of them well-known people. And unfortunately, they'll
go to their graves with the sins that they've committed
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against these young stars and starlets who have been completely abused.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
So you think that this like Hollywood circle of child
predators is real life?
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Yeah. Now, a lot of them would say they're not
child predators, that when you walk in the land of
stars and starlets, you are treated like an adult. How
do you treat a 13 year old like an adult?
How do you treat a 17 year old like an adult?
They're not adults. They're just not adults. But they they
they prescribe this. I mean, we go back to Judy Garland, right?
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Long before your time. The Wizard of Oz, Judy Garland. Oh,
and she clicks her heels. Auntie Em, I want to
come back to Kansas. I want to come back to Kansas.
You look at her life. You look at other young
people's lives who've gone through that meat grinder known as Hollywood.
And you say to yourself, why have so many of
them been so abused? Why do they have so many
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problems afterwards? Well, look at the culture. There's no supervision.
There's no attendance to their needs. It's what can they
do for us, make us money, and more importantly, be
there so we can exploit them. Not everybody in Hollywood.
I mean, to call it a land of pedophilia, that's
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an extreme statement, but enough so that there are people
there who know what goes on and they've never done
an intervention.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
So what do you think is the solution?
Speaker 2 (37:37):
The solution is we have to have child labor laws
to protect them and also from their own parents who
exploit them. There's a lot of money to be made,
you know, taking them on modeling sessions when they're two
years old or three years old, taking them for go-sees
on Broadway, off-Broadway, for potential roles in movies. Okay, you
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can do some of that, but let them be a kid.
Let them breathe.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
You think you should replace child actors with.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Like, A.I.? No, I would never replace Rio. Remember, I'm
a proud member of SAG-AFTRA. As you know, the nanny
was our leader who caused the walkout, except she didn't
include radio people. I was ready to join the nanny
on the walkout with SAG-AFTRA against AI, artificial intelligence.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Why didn't you just do it? You didn't have to
be invited.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
I couldn't believe that. They took everybody. TV. They took
script writers.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
They didn't even tell us.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
People involved with movies. Everyone except radio people. I said,
what are we, people of no consequence? Nanny, you went
to Hillcrest High School. You were from Queens. Your sister
in solidarity said, no, thank you, Curtis. We got it.
We got it. I said, I remember that picture of
Ronald Reagan when he was the president of SAG-AFTRA. He
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was a Democrat at the time with Marilyn Monroe walking
the line in 1961 on strike. Come on, me and you, nanny.
She looked at me and said, we got it. Don't
worry about it. Stay there in radio. We got it.
I felt like just unworthy. Here it is. I was
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ready to hit the bricks. Go out on strike with
my brothers and sisters in solidarity.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Listen, the picture you're painting is making me feel sad
for you.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Workers united forever.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Diamond said she believes every second of this.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
She were ready to go with your little... and just
got left out like watching everybody else go storm the
place here's inside looking from the glass.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
I was turned down by the nanny to go out
on strike for my union sag effort solidarity forever have.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
You reached out to her personally about this.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
No, she never returned my message.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
That's ghosting. That is how you get ghosted. Diamond here
says that she replied to your message.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
No, no, no. Diamond's been ghosting me. Oh, I could tell.
I could tell. Under various surnames, various emails, various texts,
various calls that have come in unsolicited, I might add.
I need to put up a firewall. I'm getting ghosted
by Diamond.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
What do you think ghosting means?
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Look, I'm not paranoid. I'm not schizophrenic. But I know
what it means to be ghosted.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
What does it mean?
Speaker 2 (40:20):
I know when somebody is on my trail. I know
when somebody is ready to put me six feet under
in a grave.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
That's stalking.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
I'm not suggesting that Diamond is a hit woman. Or
a spider. But I am saying that there is something
nefarious about the way she operates. And I will be
on my guard. I have my guard up when it
comes to Diamond. You, Gandhi? Yeah. You're peace, love, and happiness.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
So I don't have to keep my guard up. But
for Diamond from the Ville, never ran, never will, I've
got to keep my guard up. Because she is an SWA.
Sister with attitude.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Actually, I have one question for you.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
You eat meat?
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Excuse me?
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Do you eat meat?
Speaker 2 (41:02):
No more red meat. No more chicken. Some fish.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
So you're a pescatarian.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Whatever that means.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
I could have just called you anything and you would
have agreed with it. A pescatarian is really fish only.
Seafood only.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
You mean... I can take a fish and turn it
into multiple fish. I can take a loaf of bread
and turn it into multiple loaves. I can teach you
how to fish.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
I'm sad I asked this question.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Wait a second. That's Jesus Christ. Hold on a second
before we go there.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
I just wanted to know. Okay, that is all.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Well, remember, I have Crohn's disease.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
I'm subject to not being able to eat a lot
of stuff. It could cause me a lot of problems.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
But you drank the water out of a horse trough.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
In solidarity with that beast of burden, because if they're
going to be forced to drink that swill, I'm going
to drink it too.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
My God, man.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
I toast all the horses in Central Park.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
A toast to you, one of the only people I
know who genuinely walks the walk and doesn't just talk
the talk. I find it terrifying, but I also really
appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
It's quite all right if it's good enough for the
horses in Central Park.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
It's not true.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
It's good enough for Curtis Sliwa. Curtis?
Speaker 1 (42:20):
On that note, if people want to find you online,
have you figured out what your Instagram name is yet?
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Everything at Curtis Sliwa, right?
Speaker 1 (42:27):
No, I think it's Curtis Sliwa for mayor.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Curtis, whatever. You know, I'm a Luddite. Instagram. Let's see.
Do you have a TikTok? Facebook, X, TikTok.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Do you TikTok?
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Oh, yeah. Substack. The whole nine yards. Okay.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
All of these things, Curtis Lewa is how you find him.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Oh, and by the way, I'm going to be dropping
my late summer choices in EDM, electronic dance music. Oh,
my God. People have been waiting for that.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
I know they have.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Because they know I'm the EDM dance master extraordinaire. I'm
like a whirling dervish hours and hours.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
And we're going to get you on Dancing with the
Stars if it kills us.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
You haven't done that. I haven't yet. I didn't want
to bring that up because that's a sore point with me.
You're just poses, both you and Diamond. You're poses.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
I'm not a booker or a talent agent.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
It doesn't matter. You said you would get me.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
On Dancing with the Stars. No, I said we would try.
We will try.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Who can dance better than me at 72?
Speaker 1 (43:22):
I've never even seen you dance. I saw you drop
it low once and it was great.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
No, you saw it, Gay Pride. You saw me on
that float. Was I not? I was twerking. Who the
hell at 72 can twerk like that? Thank you.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
No, nobody.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
Okay. Don't be fronting me anymore. What? Don't be fronting me.
You either deliver or drop it about Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Okay, we're going to try for Dancing with the Stars
at Curtis Lewa for Mayor on Instagram. And I guess
just search Curtis Lewa everywhere else if you want to
find him.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
Or in Central Park, drinking the water with my friends,
the horses who pull those carriages with those fat tourists
who need Ozempic.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
Let me tell you now, I'm going to be so
mad if what takes you out is dirty water. You
have survived like a rat through so many things. If
you get taken out by this dirty water that you
voluntarily ingested, I'm going to be very upset.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Did you know before I had Crohn's disease, I used
to eat the dirty water hot dogs? You know, the
ones you get at the stand when they be in
the hot water. Those are dirty water hot dogs.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
That's different than the horse trough and you know it.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
I love the horseshoes. Oh, my God.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
I know you do.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Say bye, Curtis.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
We're going to cut.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
I just asked you a question off the air that
I now want to ask you on the air because
I think that we could actually make something happen here.
Do you like Mayor Mamdani?
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Oh, I certainly don't dislike him. We seem to have
gotten along a few times that we've had a conversation
during the campaign when we were debating. And when I
play the role of Dr. Cletus, remember when I gave
him the vaccine so he could have the cats that
he was allergic to? But I think the way to
handle this, since we are different in our points of view,
(45:08):
he's the AM mayor. That's when most of the business
of the city is done. But there's a certain point
when he goes to sleep at night at Gracie Mansion.
And what has the Gen Z generation labeled me but
the Nightmare? Night.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
Pause.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
Mayor. Correct.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Not the Nightmare.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
No.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
The Night.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Night. Pause. Mayor.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
What would you like to do in a dream world
if you were able to work with his administration? What
role do you want there? Three.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Okay. Care for the homeless, care for the emotionally disturbed,
care for the animals. That's a lot. And those are
the big problems in the city right now that I
don't think he can get a grip on, nor could Adams,
nor could de Blasio or any other mayor. They've all
had homeless people, all had emotionally disturbed, and they all
(45:58):
had shelters with euthanized unwanted animals. I would deal with
all three. I'd take that off his plate.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
All right. I like it.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Thank you. Thank you. All right.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
And just like that, he leaves like a tornado. This
time I actually enjoyed him. I enjoy him every time.
I think he had a lot more solid points this
time than he usually does. But I have a good
time with old Kurt. I'm going to get him to
start letting me call him Kurt. In my head, I
call him Kurt all the time.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
Have you ever said it to him?
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Yeah, but I don't think he heard me. He didn't
have his hand earmuffs on.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
Yeah, he doesn't hear me. Excuse me? Yeah. I love it.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
So we didn't sign off the way I would like
us to sign off professionally, which is Diamond. If people
want to follow you online, where.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
Can they find you?
Speaker 1 (46:50):
At Diamond Sincere on Instagram. Curtis clearly has no idea
where you can find him, but we believe it is CurtisLewis4Mayor.
And then on whatever social media platform you're on, Curtis Lewa,
I'm sure, will take you to something fascinating. I am
at Baby Hot Sauce. And we have a lot of
other stuff happening right now.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
We have a YouTube channel.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
Did you know that?
Speaker 2 (47:08):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
It's going swimmingly. I actually have no idea. I think
we have like a video up there. But you can
watch like the full long form version of this podcast.
Can you also watch this still on the app? You
can watch it on the app, right?
Speaker 2 (47:20):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
You can watch it on the iHeartRadio app. But we
want you to like, follow, subscribe to the podcast, to
the YouTube channel, please.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
These instructions are getting so long. Follow us on Instagram.
Leave us a talk back. All you have to do
is hit the little microphone button and you can chat
with us about things. Also, leave us a review. It's
a lot of instructions. If you just want to do
one of those things, I'd appreciate it. Follow the Instagram
page at Sauce on the Side. Like, there's so much.
(47:49):
Anything from you?
Speaker 2 (47:51):
Oh, no. Okay.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
Curtis, we loved you today.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (47:55):
I love you every day. I got to be honest.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
That is you being an SWA.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
Sister with attitude.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
I'm like, okay. Here we go again. And on that note,
we will see you soon. Say bye, Diamond.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Bye.
Host
Medha Gandhi
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