Why Are You the Most Hated Man?

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Sauce on the side. Hello, it's Gandhi. I'm here with
my favorite person, Diamond. Hi, Hi, And today what to
say about what's about to happen to your ears today?

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Just put your seat bolt on and get ready for
a good ride.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
And do not listen to this out loud at work.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
No oh yeah, headphones.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
In or anyone that might be easily affected. So for
weeks at this point, we have been telling you guys
about a man we work with named Curtis Sliwa. He
ran for mayor twice. We found out interesting dude. He
when he just walks by us, he makes us laugh

(00:43):
with whatever the hell little nugget he drops, which is
usually something about how much he hates us, or how
our food sucks, or how his wife only listens to us,
doesn't listen to him, and we can all go to hell.
Whatever it is, it's always just a quick oop and
then he goes. So we thought, let's dig into this,
and we did. You're gonna hear some things. You're gonna

(01:04):
hear some things that are not appropriate for the year
twenty twenty six. You're also gonna not hear some things
that were actually said because I cut them out but
he's an interesting guy, and I think, and I'm gonna
wait until the end. I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you
what I think at the very end, when I tell you,

(01:25):
I've never seen you Diamond so reactive in an interview ever.
I was loving it. I was like, oh, Diamond is
into this.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
That man is an icon.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Truly, we need to protect him at all cars so literally,
he is just so I don't know if there's an
actual word to describe his energy bags a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
It's big, yeah, but he's so entertaining, Like truly, I
couldn't imagine being in close proximity with him for more
than two hours.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
I think it shuts off at some point. He has
to get tired.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yeah, but oh, he's just He's on my mount rushmore
of entertaining people.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
I think he's great. So strappin'. We're about to find
out a lot about Curtis Sliwa, who has been shot,
he's been attacked by the mafia. He ran for mayor,
he will still to this day. He'll fuck you up.
This is gonna be a good money Do we need

(02:33):
to move that mic that's impornt of now?

Speaker 5 (02:34):
Are you permitted to shit dish and that's yes.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Sum But you saw me change that microphone. I won't
use the gold mic, he said, he doesn't care, but
I won't use it because it's his.

Speaker 5 (02:46):
The last gold mic was rushing in balls. And to
show you what a nasty guy I am, I brought
a homeless guy in to sit in his seat with
his golden mic phone when he came to do a
show that day at twelve. The place need to be fumigated.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Why you hate Rustling Ball?

Speaker 5 (03:07):
No, but he was railing on homeless people. So I said, well,
I'm going to bring the homeless people to you.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
And you had a homeless person sit at Rustling Ball's
mic and.

Speaker 5 (03:16):
Use his gold mic for twenty minutes.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
That's incredible stuff.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
While I was talking to you, you are just stunk
up the play. And actually my nose is uh managed dead,
so I couldn't smell the guy at all.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Is it dead just because of like covid or is
this like cocaine in the.

Speaker 5 (03:33):
Eighties From being subjected to the smells of New York
City for seventy two.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Years, just went from birth from birth birth diamond. The
levels are good, okay, amazing.

Speaker 5 (03:45):
Buy Skiers macaroni.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
I think this might be the most chaotic start to
one of ours we had. And that's my cont And
we are here with Curtis Leewa.

Speaker 5 (03:55):
Hello, Oh is this Gandhy? Did you actually go on
a famine for how many days?

Speaker 1 (04:04):
While you will, I've never done.

Speaker 5 (04:06):
You're not related to fast? Oh, my god, you're related
to Mahatma Gandhi.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
But you did not know that.

Speaker 5 (04:12):
I had no idea. Really, I thought this was just
a name, a myth h a gnome de guare, no
no care? Wow, you are related to Do you realize
that I and my wife we lived by his philosophy
that a society that does not take care of its
animals does not take care of its people. Looking all

(04:34):
the homeless and emotionally distuff. My god, I am in
the shadow of Can I say royalty?

Speaker 1 (04:40):
You can say that. I don't think he would have
gone by that. He was really royalty. Exactly opposite, because
he gave away every single bit of money and any
type of object right and me had. He lived a
very austere life. So when people say to me, oh,
you must be so rich, absolutely not. I mean I'm
rich in other ways. Life has made me very rich,
but not financially because of him. Yeah, my great great grandfather.

Speaker 5 (05:04):
So does the IR I R S. No, for sure,
you think I'm an I R S ancient the way
you're giving me that spiel here, I don't know about.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
You, man. I think a lot of things about you.
So we've talked about you on the podcast before, have
we not, Diamond, Because Diamond says, can you go to
the micro really quickly and.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
Say what that's? Because you are ENTI she just love
that that that that that that that that that that.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Sir, you give us a lot of content. Okay, Diamond,
what do you say about our lovely Curtis Leewa.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
I say a lot of things. Do you have something
to specifically.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Specifically he is? Who?

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Oh who Trump thinks he is? Or who trump supporters
think that Trump is? Well, you know they hate me, yeah,
and that's probably with a passion.

Speaker 5 (05:44):
By the way, are you a yellow diamond or what
kind of a diamond?

Speaker 2 (05:47):
More like, I mean, pink's my favorite color, so you
could like try to you know that people are into
pink diamonds right now.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
So like you know, listen, I've always been a fan
of a black diamond and my Black Diamond, Hello, Black diamondry,
where is that.

Speaker 5 (06:02):
Acond Diamonds are a girl's best friend Marilyn Monroe long
before both of your time.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
So Diamond here, my black Diamond says that you are
who Trump thinks he is and wants to be like.
You actually walk the walk that he tries to act
like he does, but you actually do it. And we're
going to get into that because you're fascinating. Day one,
you told me you hated me pretty much the second
we met.

Speaker 5 (06:25):
No, I despise you, hate you, loathe you because you
were affiliated with a man who was responsible Elvis Duran,
who everybody loves except for me, was responsible for my
wife Nancy never listening to me in the morning, never, never, never,
not when we dated, not when we were engaged, not
when we were married, not in the ten years of

(06:45):
misery that she has suffered with me. Since what does
she listen to? From when she was going up out
in Bohemia? He listens to Elvis Duran in G. One hundred,
and she says to me, I will never listen to
you in the morning, nor any other show. I only
listened to Elvis and is cool. And I remember sitting
there in the car one day trying to figure it out. Now,

(07:05):
I heard your name pop up, yeah, and I said Gandhi,
not the Gandhi, And she said, oh yeah, And.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
That's why we love you. Nancy. If you're listening to this,
thank you for listening to us and not your husband.
At least, though you know that she liked you for
you and not for your public persona.

Speaker 5 (07:21):
Well, no, I think it's because she is born and
raised FM. Now do you know what the acronym FM means?

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Frequency moderation.

Speaker 5 (07:29):
Uh No, freaking morons, feeble minded, fornicating, madly free marijuana,
as opposed to AM, which I'm on, which is active minded.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Get out of here. All the things you said for
FMS sound like a party to me.

Speaker 5 (07:41):
That's all I actually AM is anybody who is sixty
five and over really not all morons.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
That's what we always sawnest on.

Speaker 5 (07:48):
Oh how do you like that? Oh you dropped me there?
Oh man, you shanked me. You might as well have
had a shift.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
So let's talk about you though, speaking of getting shived, So,
for the listeners that are listening right now that don't
know who you are, you have run for mayor here
in New York City, how many times.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
Twice twice against Eric Adams Swagerman with no plan a crook,
I warned everybody in Advanced twenty twenty one, but they
didn't listen to me. And then probably in what has
been the most infamous mayoral run of all time, Zoran
Mandami and the Zorinistas, Eric Adams who decided to cash
his chips in and bow out for what I think

(08:27):
is twenty million dollars. And then of course the dystopian
one Andrew Evilized Cuomo, who is sort of like a zombie,
a political zombie. You would think, like whack a mole,
he would just stay out in the Hamptons with his
billionaire friends and yours truly the man of the streets
in subwist Curtis Sliwa, Yes.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
You call yourself the People's mayor. It's on the back
of your little uniform here.

Speaker 5 (08:46):
Yeah, damn right on, the People's mayor because obviously they
didn't elect me, so like everyone else with yumannga siego
that needs a crane to get you in and out
of a room at a broadcast studio, I have dubbed
myself the People's make.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
The People's mayor, and we love that. And you walk
around in this red jacket and red beret for a
very specific reason. You're just telling me outside, what is
the reason? This goes back to your where you came from,
how you came up my roots.

Speaker 5 (09:13):
I remember my red satine jacket. Make sure it says Satine, your.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Satin jacket, which you won't tell me where I could
buy one?

Speaker 5 (09:20):
Uh No, because that's hush hush, mush mush. It's proprietory.
Although if you're like the red Chinese, you steal everything trademarks, copyrights,
intellectual property, and knowing FM, you'll probably figure out a
way to steal one. I'll just go to and have
it made as long as we share space on the
same floor of the iHeart Omega Emporium with all these

(09:42):
FM shows and then just little me.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
On the AFI or guy, are you okay?

Speaker 5 (09:48):
But let me get back on track.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Where did this come from?

Speaker 5 (09:51):
Okay? So here it is. I'm up in the Bronx.
I'm a night manager of Mickey D's and this is
back in the late seventies where if many of your
listeners who weren't birthed at that point want to know
what it was like, all you got to do is
go to the cult movie classic The Warriors to know
what I was dealing with. So I'm managing a Mickey
D's a night and I'm dealing with gangs coming in

(10:13):
during the day, coming in at night, and I'm having
to give them a therapeutic back massage and have them
suck concrete. This is right after they ordered their Max
fries and strawberry shakes and wanted extra Max sauce on
the side. Now you got to understand back then.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Sauce on the side.

Speaker 5 (10:28):
You said you didn't give Max sauce on the side.
Hell no, Raight Crook said never, you die first, and
I believe that nonsense. So you know, in the restaurant
that I ran for Mickey D's, the kids in the
neighborhood wanted to see the Hamburgler, not Ronald McDonald. They
would have robbed them at gunpoint. So understand the kind
of environment I was in. So I hadn't been no man.

(10:51):
I grew up in Brooklyn, Brown Slow, East, New York, Canarsie,
but I started the Guardian Angels. I birthed them in
the Bronx, And you got to understand what Ighty Saturday
night was brothers would be up the hill and they'd
be smoking chiba all night and watching three kung Fu
flicks for five dollars.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Whoa, whoa, whoa, why are you making that sound like
a bad time?

Speaker 5 (11:11):
That's right? And then they rolled down the hill and
they'd won Big Max. Okay, well, let's just say I
had to be more of the sheriff because they'd have
to watch the front lobby. I had a lock the
bathroom because the hookahs were in there pulling tricks, and
the greasy haired pimps like right out of forty second
Street Times Square, were like watching their ladies. And I

(11:31):
had to keep the gangs at base. So you can
imagine I was really more an enfortune than a Mickey
D's manager. When I would put those quarter pounders down
on the grill, I just cared about survival.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
That makes sense. So you've cared about survival. You see
all these people coming in, you see all the nonsense
around you, and you decided to do what besides.

Speaker 5 (11:51):
Bounce them to start the burger boys and burger girls.
At least that's what it was referred to at first.
And just to give you one idea, I was told
by the Uness and Operators are the franchise that I
was working for, that I would not be a candidate
for McDonald's University in oakraoh Illinois. And it broke my heart.
Really yeah, because I'm a high school dropout to begin with,

(12:12):
so I wasn't even going to get into Ronald McDonald University.
And why not because they said, we are not going
to expose the rest of the McDonald's world to you.
Curtis Lee were because you will be a blemish, a
stain on our franchise record and we may lose our franchises.
I said, it's okay, So I'm going to focus some

(12:34):
of my time on going out there and writing the
Number four train, the Muggers Express, the Number two train
that beast the D train in the Bronx which was
considered def danger and have the Burger boys and Burger
girls out there while I was creating a uniform at
Parel as a fashionista, trying to get across that there

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was another route to take other than being a gang banger.
Because back then most young men and women who we're
on the wrong path, we're already joining group psych savage skulls,
savage Noman's Black Spades. I can go on, and it
was a birth in fire. The cops saided us. They
were giving us wooden shampoos and concrete facials and locking

(13:15):
me up all the time.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
So you guys were kind of being vigilantes and the
cops were coming after you.

Speaker 5 (13:19):
Well, the cops thought we were a gang.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (13:21):
The mayor at that time, Ed Koch, thank god there
wasn't social networking at that time, was great with the
sound bites, and he called us just a bunch of
thugs and sneakers, and he wasn't going to tolerate that,
so he ordered the cops to arrest us. The people
were afraid of us because they get out of here,
which aided in skeptical New Yorkers. We're gonna trust you
just because you wear that red beret of that red

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tam No way, so is damn devid did damn DIFD did.
But we were able to survive until another day and
increasingly grow throughout the five Burroughs and then eventually now
forty seven years later, when thirteen countries and one hundred
and thirty cities all based on the same premise volunteers,
no weapons, no special powers of privileges going out there

(14:04):
protecting people who can't protect themselves and now are focused
in many of these cities. Its protecting the homeless and
the emotional disturb who are a danger to themselves and
everyone else.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
And you guys operate mostly in the New York area
around where in the subways.

Speaker 5 (14:19):
Okay, so that's deep down in what we call the
veins and arteries of the city. You're never going to
find the politicians down in the subways, except if it's
a photo op, of course. But that's where the homeless
and emotionally disturbed go. This is where they live, this
is where they dwell, this is where they're not being
cared for. This is where we go find them, help
them and protect them from each other and more importantly,

(14:42):
against the many people who are forced to ride the
subway each and every day in order to survive.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
So if you see somebody, do they always wear the
red berets though, yep.

Speaker 5 (14:50):
We're all wearing the red beret, the red satine jacket.
You have to go through three months of training in
order to graduate into the program. Men and women together, black, white, Hispanic,
you name it, and that we're a force to be
reckoned with.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
I saw some pictures of you back in the day,
looking like quite the soldier of some sort around the city,
and it's amazing.

Speaker 5 (15:10):
You're trying to be nice. Don't patronize me, don't play
k We look like thugs and gang bangers.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
I was gonna say black panthers, but you're white, so
I can't really say that.

Speaker 5 (15:20):
Wait a second, like panthers. You're calling me a Caucasian persuasion.
Do you know my name, Curtis? If you would have
grabbed ten Curtises in our own, nine of them would
be African American. In fact, Curtis Jackson aka fifty cent
culturally appropriated my name. I was Curtis before him. I
think I'm the only white boy Curtis you've ever heard of?

Speaker 1 (15:40):
What's going on? It SUPs damn. That was the best
you're gonna have to do.

Speaker 5 (15:44):
I don't think again, of course.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Wait know, but Deanna is still rolling. But that's okay
because we can as long as I can get the
audio from Deanna, we're still okay. Unless it Scotty gonna
take it.

Speaker 5 (15:59):
Thanks Scott, Oh wow, Scott to the rescue diamond. You
fumbled it. You fumbled it.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
And yes, you're right about the Curtis thing. I think
most of the Curtises.

Speaker 5 (16:10):
This is what bugs me the most. What when I'm
in the streets in the hood, my credibility in the
streets said, yo, you was shot five times? So hallo
point bullets on the orders of John Gotty Senior to
John Gotty Junr. And again beat them crime family in
January June nineteenth to nineteen ninety two. And you know
what they say, some of the brothers, Ah, man, you
only got shot five times. Curtis Pitty got shot nine times.

(16:34):
And you know who did it? Rumor says jah Rul
and his boys. Southeast Queen's Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
You think so.

Speaker 5 (16:41):
Let me just say something you know that I can't
say it here because then you'll get sued because I
don't have a penny to my name. And you're Gunde.
You're with your diamonds, and you're with diamond here and
the rest of your crew swimming in dose. I'm gonna
protect you from liars who train all day in their
martial arts by sue.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Okay, all right, you can say whatever you want here
because this is all alleged. We don't know that it's true.
This is stuff that we've heard.

Speaker 5 (17:04):
What are you trying to say? You can't believe anything
I say? Is that what you're saying? Oh, because I'm
a politician now, I kissed the baby and shook a
hand running for office. You're right, Why would you trust
any politician? Because I don't trust democrats show repult.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
I have to say, I genuinely don't either. We've been
talking about this a lot lately. I wish that there
were there are a couple people who I think, for
a very long time really have stayed true to who
they are and actually give a shit about the community
around them, And I think that number is just so
low at this point.

Speaker 5 (17:32):
Andy, I don't trust anyone. I don't try. In fact,
used to be a president who was in power long
before you were birth. Ronald Reagan said, trust but verify.
We courtisusly, it's verify. You got to verify to me first,
then I'll trust you. So who are.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Politicians you trust? You would trust? Right now?

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Not even you?

Speaker 1 (17:52):
Not even you?

Speaker 5 (17:53):
Am I a politician? You just said you look, if
you add my back, if you add my back to
the wall, right yeah, And all of a sudden you're
confronting me with information. I'm going to use technology on
you and try to pivot and shift, because if I
were to say you're absolutely right, I'd be dead on arrival. Right,
So I would use tricknology. But let me tell you so,

(18:15):
once you're a politician, you don't want transparency, you want trickchnology.
And you're looking at me like I just created a
new language, which I have.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
What I like it.

Speaker 5 (18:24):
It's Sleewanics. It's malaprompts, it's fractured phrases, it's spoonerisms. It
was the competition to ebonics a long time ago. They
were going to make a lot of money having Ebonics
in the school system. And I say, what a great swindle.
I'll create Sleewanics and nobody will understand what the hell
I'm talking about except for me, myself and I.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
You have said a lot of things within the last
five minutes, all of which I want to touch on one.
You really rolled by quickly the three months of training
that it takes to get into the Guardian Angels. What
does that entail?

Speaker 5 (18:55):
Let me take you back to the day of origin.
It's not like that any longer. But you have to
fight you way through the apache line.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
That's why I thought you were a gang.

Speaker 5 (19:04):
Well, that's why everybody thought we were a gang. We
use gang tactics. Look, we're fighting gangs, right, We try
to protect people from gangs. You think they're gonna be
all genteel. You think they're gonna say, oh, Guardian Angels,
it's good you here to protect my grandmother. No, they're
gonna try to kill us.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Okay, So you jump people into the not gang, right,
So you jump them.

Speaker 5 (19:22):
You gotta find out if they have the ability to
defend themselves because now we're dependent on one another. Remember
we don't have any weapons out there. We don't have
to do that any longer. So it's your basic physical
self defense group techniques. Also, you gotta be cool, calm
and collected. You gotta be able to take a lot
of ruble abuse without losing it. And we can't give
you a liquid prozact before you go out on patrol.

(19:43):
To make sure you you're cool, calm and collected. You
gotta work with all kinds of people. So it takes
about three months to sort it all out, and then
you might be qualified to be a Guardian Angel. Unlike
me oga original Guardian angel.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Okay, so what now is your three months program?

Speaker 5 (20:09):
Like?

Speaker 1 (20:09):
You're not still beating people into the gang, are you?

Speaker 5 (20:11):
No, it's not. It's not required.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
You got to have it required.

Speaker 5 (20:16):
No, it's not required. You gotta have some physical ability. Okay,
But it's really about almost like being a Florence Nightingale,
a Clara Barton and caring for the homeless and emotionally disturbed.
You have to understand their psychology. You have to understand
people who are schizophrenic, who have polar bipolar disorder, other

(20:36):
mental ailments, and having to listen to me prepares you
for all of that because you think what I talk
about is jibberishit times. You should see some of my
emotionally disturbed friends who talk to me from one end
of a subway car while talking to the wall and
thinking that they're actually seeing me.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
That's fair. So somebody wants to be a Guardian Angel.

Speaker 5 (20:56):
How do they do that? Well, generally, they have to
be referred. It's preferable that there be references so we
know who you are and where you're from, and that
you're not just utilizing your membership for self gratification or
self benefit. Because it's a tough thing you're going to
have to do. Let's say you had a boyfriend or girlfriend.
You can forget about them. They're gonna say later for that,

(21:18):
you'd rather be with the Guardian Angels on a Friday
or Saturday night instead of with me late for that.
So there's gonna be a lot of pressure.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
So that brings me to the other thing that you
sort of gloss over really quickly, that you have had
some consequences and problems from doing this that are pretty serious.
You were shot five times.

Speaker 5 (21:36):
Five times with hollow point bullets. Once you ask fifty cents,
Curtis Jackson if those nine shots were hollow point bullets.
Huh mine with hollow point pullets. You know what they
do when they hit you? They shriger inside.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Oh god, where were you shot?

Speaker 5 (21:50):
I was in the back of a cab on my
way to WABC, my place to be back then always
broadcasting Curtis in the morning, joining up with my wife
at the time. Least it's a slee one now ever
it's at channel five. Okay, she does what is that
Doug talk? What is that thing? She does? Hip hop talk?
I'm trying to remember.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
She just said, what what is it called not thug talk.

Speaker 5 (22:13):
Come on, come on, Diamond, Diamond just got so sh hip.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Hop monster micro quick because see, I think you just
blew her mind saying that you were married to Lisa Evers.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
You were married to Lisa Evers.

Speaker 5 (22:26):
Well one of many, my dad.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
Okay, oh my.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Gosh, I can see the logo now, but I can't.
It's like yellow, it's.

Speaker 5 (22:33):
Doug life, right. Remember she was on Hot ninety seven.
More drugs, more gangs, more drive by small violence.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Right, yeah, but it wasn't thug life.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
You know.

Speaker 5 (22:43):
Well, she has a bunch of thugs on that. I mean,
she does a very good job, Curtis, it's an excellent program,
but it's just it's a hell of a lot of
thugs and street soldiers. Kay, not dog life, not kind
not kind of street soldiers i'd have in the Guardian
angels Man.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
No way, Diamond is blown away right now. I don't
think I've ever seen her react that loudly or visibly
to anything somebody has said in here until this moment.
That is something you just accomplished.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
It.

Speaker 5 (23:10):
You see, Diamond claims that her origin is Brooklyn. Yeah,
come back to the mic man, haattn't makes it and
Brooklyn takes it. Nah, Nah, you ain't prime time.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
I'm telling you, Diamond, Curtis Brownsville from.

Speaker 5 (23:22):
The hood, never ran, never.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Will never ran, never will five live.

Speaker 5 (23:26):
There is seventy four seventy six before you were born,
when that was the only mighty whitey dead. Don't fill me. Now,
let me tell you so.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
There's a guy on our show, Scary who was in
here as you were. He was leaving when you were
sitting there.

Speaker 5 (23:41):
Of course he saw me and he left.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Let me tell you, Scary will he says all the time,
and it pisses Diamond off. He says he won't go
to her neighborhood because he can't safely park his BMW
near where Diamond lives. And it makes her mad because
she's like, please, where the hell do you think I live?
He's like, oh, Brownsville. Now, Diamond says, the part of
Brownsville you grew up in is actually scary part.

Speaker 5 (24:01):
Osma and Hegeman. I would say so. Now, just imagine
I'm a white guy from Canarci across Slenn and Boulevard.
I'm married to a black woman, first wife I named
Cora and Drayton. You think the brothers were happy with me,
I guess. And now when I'd have to go home
and visit with my mommy because my dad was a
merchant seaman, you think my supreme cuchine cousins were happy

(24:25):
with me. I was avoiding beat downs everywhere.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
I don't think you avoided all of them, though, because
back to you getting shot before we got detoured. You're
in the bad a cab and you're going to meet
up with your wife, Lisa Evers.

Speaker 6 (24:37):
To do the morning show, to do the morning show
Interest in the Morning. At that time, Angels in the morning.
Let me tell you something. She would always go ahead first.
I said, what are you going ahead first? She goes, oh,
I got to get all dolled up, you know, she
gotta put her on the make cup.

Speaker 5 (24:51):
I said, this is radio. This is radio. And I
would have to go get the newspapers because there was
no internet back then. You had to get to hard copies.
We had our roles in preparing for the morning show.
And on that morning, the mob was I fornicating me
and Mad dogging me.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
I fornicating. You can say it, you're allowed.

Speaker 5 (25:10):
To say, of course, he well, I fornicating me and
Mad dogging me. You see, you got to do it.
This sleiwanis way okay, And so they had been following me.
Now you think it was difficult for them tracking me
in my red beret red sat team check.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
And you're a walking target with this thing, which we'll
talk about in the minute.

Speaker 5 (25:24):
In the lees, the lower east side Avenue a Saint
Mark's Place across from Tompkins Square Park. This is nineteen
ninety two, this summer. Okay. They had already hit me
with baseball bats in April of that same year hit
me thirty eight times, tooled me up. Why because they
didn't like what I was saying about John Gotty Senior,
John Gotti Junior and the Gambino crime family on the radio.

(25:48):
That was the year that John Gotti Senior finally got
found guilty and was going away triple life without parole
in Marion, where eventually he died of folks cancer. And
I danced the horror the Tarantella until the break of dawn.
I was so happy he went the hell without an
asbestos suit. So I think he kind of get the

(26:08):
idea of why they wanted to cap me because I
wouldn't take the coat of Omenta. I was telling secrets
of their nefarious ways. Now, for example, they always created
this myth. Dude, you were loutshafer in a neighborhood with
the Italian organized crime like how beached, then you would
be in the neighborhood where the Muli Yans lived, East

(26:30):
New York and brown. So hey, don't get upset there, Diamond.
That's how we referred to black people back then. No, now, man,
you guys ain't bringing in nickel and dime beds of reefer. Man,
you're bringing in kilos a heroin, and you're selling it
in the black neighborhood, which eventually is like a boomerang
comes into the white neighborhood. So don't give me that.
Yin Yang and I was talking about the stores that

(26:52):
they burnt down because they extorted arson, all the legs
they bent and stuffed into people's pockets, and all the
bodies that were I a because they decided that they
would go away and swim with the fishes in Jamaica Bay.
So I think you kind of understand, Gandhi, Yes, I did.
On the most powerful AM station. Remember AM is active minded, right,

(27:13):
What is AM to you?

Speaker 4 (27:14):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (27:15):
Okay? But a lot of older people listening, especially five Oh,
the cops, fbi wise guys, everybody else, and I was
giving away their trade secrets. So after they tooled me
up with baseball bats and they broke my elbow and
they broke my wrists, and they learned that I wasn't
going to shut my mouth. In fact, I came back

(27:35):
the next day with a concussion. They told me you'd
have to be in the hospital for a week. I said,
later for that, And I told the story of where
John Gotti Jr. Ended up killing a guy at the
Silver Fox, the disco in South Oat Zone Park when
he came to collect the fig and the guy was
dancing with his female disco style, you know, with the
disco ball, and he said, Hey, where's all money? And

(27:58):
the guy said, f you, And all of a sudden,
Ragio gave him the knife while everybody was standing, and
he gutted them out forty six times in front of everybody,
and nobody saw nothing except my cousin at the time, Butch,
he was a bit of a lush who made the
mistake of telling me that. Okay, so now I decided
to tell the whole world. So who do you think

(28:19):
called up John Gotti Junior after that, while listening in
the bowels of the Federal detention facility while he was
on trial, John Gotti Senia said, you're gonna have to
kill this guy. He just got you on a murder rap.
There is no statute of limitation, so hey, if you
can't handle it, you and your boys Rugerio McLaughlin and Kaplan.

(28:39):
How did that Jewish guy get in that group to
hit me with baseball bats? But he did instead of
studying to be an accountant at Baruk. He said, now
you're going to have to go to Little Nick, Nick
Carrazu and Kanasi with Jojo Carrazo because they hate they
little They despised Curtis. They grew up with him. The
Avenuel boys try to kill him a few times, give
them the contract, and when John Gotti Junior, with his

(29:01):
tail between his legs, went to see the Corrazzo boys say,
you tell your pops will do it with pleasure, no cost,
and that's how they put into motion plan to shoot
and kill me in the back of that yellow cab
that they knew I would take every morning in order
to get to WABC, Except they told the assassin and
the executor, whose name momentarily I will remember because I'm

(29:25):
having a little bit of a dense flashback since he
shot me five times to the hollow point bullets. They
told him, don't shoot him in the head. He's gonna
avoid getting hit. Now. I think these corazzos were watching
too many Kung Fu movies.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
Wha, wha, wha.

Speaker 5 (29:41):
But this guy, the hit man, said, I'm the hit man.
I'll determine how I'm gonna kill this blankety blank plink plank, plank, plank.
And his first shot was right in my head. And
you missed me. I wish I could say, you know,
I made some Bruce Lee Kung Fu movie move, but no,
I was actually stunned he missed me. And that's when

(30:02):
I began to scrabble in the back of the cab.
Was the cab moving because it was moving? God, you
know why, because the cab driver was his associate in
the Gambado crime family. They had already rigged up that cab.
They'd already taken to the chop shop right outside of
the Old Say Stadium, which was the biggest salvage yard
in existence. Carmina Agnello, who was married to that putan

(30:24):
Victoria got to Etunia, Can I use that name?

Speaker 1 (30:27):
You can say whatever you want, And he.

Speaker 5 (30:30):
Had basically customized it to be a moving coffin. They
had cut out the handles inside because the carrazo said, Hey,
this guy's gonna fight his way. He's not going to
just go down for the count. And when I reached
for the handle that tried to dive into moving traffic,
what do you think happened? I got the handle in
my hand, I got who gots, I got bump kiss
in my hand, and the guy is just pouring lead

(30:52):
into me.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Jesus.

Speaker 5 (30:54):
Luckily, as the cab turned, I had the Guardian Angel
radio that I grabbed and I said, angel one, angel
one cold red, which means, whoever you are, wherever you
are a Guardian Angel, I am man a hell of
a pickle here and I need help. And who was
awake at Guardian Angel headquarters on forty six and eighth,
visiting from Japan who became eventually our international coordinator, k

(31:18):
j Outa Hi Hi Hi Hi. He was like the
Joe Jitsu of our generation, and he was smoking cigarettes,
which you weren't supposed to do. And the headquarters, luckily
he was breaking the rules. And he got on the
radio and you won Angel one, Cold Red Angel one,
Angel one, And all of a sudden, the smock driver
thought it was the cops. He all of a sudden
takes moves that are going south on Avenue B. And

(31:41):
that's when I realized there was an open window in
front because the shooter had left the window open because
it was hot. It was h nineteenth, nineteen ninety two,
you know, man, he was hotter than hell. Thank god
it was hot. So he opened the window and I
dove through the open window. I made it halfway out.
He crashed into the the park cars, which sort of

(32:01):
like squeezed me, and then he put a last shot
in the back. The driver and the gunman worked together
on this pushed me out. I became a speedmump right
on Avenue B and sixth Street. They figured I was dead.
It was all right.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Peter thought so too.

Speaker 5 (32:17):
And guess who comes running out of that gin mail there?
The Hell's Angels. That was their gin mail because their
headquarters was on Third Street.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
The Hell's Angels came right.

Speaker 5 (32:24):
Of course, they came out. They had nothing to do
with this, but they were stunned. They turned me over
and said, hey, don't die on us, Curtis. Don't die now.
You can imagine how empowering that is. Because I'm bleeding
all over like a sieve. They call in the meat wagon.
The cops looked at me and said, hey, you're not
so tough now. Oh yeah, I like that. Of course
they hated me back then. And then they scraped me

(32:46):
off the asphalt. They put me in the meat wagon.
This is before Rudy becomes mayor. So you got potholes everywhere.
The blood is splashing all around. They got me in
a body bag. They're pumping the air into me to
try to suppress the bleeding. The next thing I know,
the scalpel is right right below my throat, going into me,
cutting me open. Uh. And then a day and a half,

(33:06):
two days later, I wake up in the ICU with
tubes in every orifice in my body. It's like being
in a meat lock.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Him ooof did these people get caught?

Speaker 5 (33:15):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Well?

Speaker 5 (33:16):
John Gotti Jr. Was arrested twelve years later, twelve years
for creating the plot to kill me.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
Okay, I'm going to follow up with something in a second.

Speaker 5 (33:25):
But I just imagine. Yeah, we go to federal court,
and his defense attorney says, uh huh, yes, I will
acknowledge that John Gotty Junior was the underbors for John
Gotty Senior when he was arrested and incarcerated and ended
up running the Gotti crime family. But there is a
statue of limitations five year window, and you were going
to hear Curtis Lee would talk today and give testimony

(33:47):
and guess what he is alive. You can't touch Gotti.
But the gunman, Michael Ianotti, he got twenty years for
capping me and now he's out.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
I was gonna say what I'm missing, Its foot fancy free.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
You know what I would tell him right now, Michael.
I've said on the radio, Hey Michael, once you go
for target practice and try to finish the Java churis.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
What you make me nervous man.

Speaker 5 (34:12):
We like you to stick around, get nauseous and nervous
because I don't want that what is that that ten
toury sauce or that curry sauce all over the counter
of this broadcast.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
FORCA will kill you myself. This is wild to me.
First of all, I'm very glad that you made it out,
and I'm glad that you're alive, and holy cow, this
is a crazier story than I thought it was.

Speaker 5 (34:30):
Good with it now, God, you don't you think most
people should be happy that I made it out that
window and I was alive, to be able to run
my mouth a mile a minute another day, you would
be surprised at the number of people that wished that
I would have been dead and buried and quite frankly
be a cadaver. In Formalda, why do they want you dead? Uh?

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Are we talking mafia people? Are we talking general public.

Speaker 5 (34:52):
Well obviously or mafia people? Sure, I understand, other than
those that Haiti Gotti, which sizable feel politicians politicians while
you do who hated me, despised me because naturally you
think I was saying nice things about them on the radio.
Think it's snay all of my old girlfriends, all of
my former wives something. Uh, I mean, we could just

(35:14):
go through a whole list here. Problem Okay.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
So that brings me to the day that you and
I met. Yes, you asked me, hey, now that we're family,
would you take a bullet for me? And I said no,
absolutely no.

Speaker 5 (35:27):
No, no, hold on no here it is I'm welcomed
I'm rescued from WABC, which was always bashing Curtis, always
blaming Curtis bar On Mandami's win, not the failure of
Andrew evilized Cormo the dystopian one. So I escaped from WABC.
I come here to the iHeartMedia Empire, every big morning

(35:48):
show in existence, power one five right, CHARLAMAGNEA god, he's
like hooking me, yo, what's up? What's up? What's up?

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (35:56):
We likes was in the building, Jim Kerr right, one o,
four points man. I mean he was there when the
first Beatles album came out? Right? And then who do
I see you? First? With Elvis Duran who I hate?
I lovely, I despise and he was stunned. He goes,
but everybody loves me, not me, that's for sure. That's

(36:18):
all my wife listens to. So now downstairs as I'm leaving,
and everybody's wondering, man, his first day here is somebody
going to be outside and try to finish the job.
I walk up to you and say, we're all family now,
not familiar, right, And he said, oh, of course, of course.
I said, will you take a bullet for me? And
you know what you said? Hell?

Speaker 1 (36:38):
No, yes, absolutely not.

Speaker 5 (36:40):
Now come on. That is what loyalty is about. That's
what a koumbade cheach is. You are a woman of
kumbata cheach is. That is somebody who is not related
to you by blood, but it's so close to you
and your spirit and your your verb for life that you,
not even knowing me, would take a bullet for me.
And you said, no, who would do that?

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Who would take a bullet for someone not even knowing them?
I do feel like you might do that, but I'm
not going to do that. And now that I know
that you actually have been shot, and now you're out
here naming all these names, and these people are out
of prison, so there's a chance that they could be
coming back for you. Definitely not.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
But what did I do?

Speaker 1 (37:13):
I pointed you to our security and I said, but
they will. Those guys will do it. Don't you worry.
It'll be okay.

Speaker 5 (37:19):
Here it is, yeah, adopted into a new family. We
love you, a dysfunctional child. And right away I asked
one simple favor, would you take a bullet from you?

Speaker 1 (37:29):
A simple favor?

Speaker 5 (37:30):
You didn't even hesitate, You didn't even say, like, let
me come back to you. Tomorrow. No, you said, hell no,
hell no.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Did you want me to use trickology and life of technology?

Speaker 5 (37:41):
Exactly? I wanted you to do what a politician would do,
patronize me, you know'll pull my chain and chew my shorts,
tell me something that I wanted to hear. But oh no,
you had to be very curt and very direct, no doubt.
If I had asked Diamond the same shing, she would
have said, are you crazy?

Speaker 1 (37:58):
Diamond?

Speaker 5 (37:58):
What was said? Take a bully for you? My god,
come on, you could take some let I would say,
hell no, see that. Look you can survive lead poisoning,
trust me.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
Oh my god, that's what you call it, Curtis. The
other thing is, as Elvis so pointedly did mention, you
are walking around with this uniform that is a bright
red literal target on your back and your head. Every
day I saw you in a suit. One day you
said you were going to a funeral. Outside of that,
this is how we see you every day. People know
where you're going, on what you're doing.

Speaker 5 (38:29):
That is correct, and think of it. What kind of
a seventy two year old man would be walking around
dressed up like Sandy Claus every day with a red
beret and a red sat Team jacket. This guy. Do
you think if you were a shrink and you were
giving me a raw shack test here, you would say
that Curtis Leiwa had all the furniture upstairs and rearranged
in the right rooms.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
I think it's definitely been rearranged in some capacity. But
I really admire a lot of the things that you
say and do I truly do. I say all the
time we just around on this podcast. People come in
and they tell stories about stuff, and I'll always say
name names, and they say, no, I don't want to
do that, and you just bam.

Speaker 5 (39:08):
One man, I volunteer. I see fact, when we've finished
this podcast is probably too soon for me because I
could do it for five six hours. I'll give you
a telephone book. You know what a telephone book is,
you know, cause that probably came about long before you
at birth you and Diamond are. But anyway, I'll give
you a telephone book worth the names and everybody that

(39:30):
I have a vendetta and a vengeance, swore a blood
feud with that. I'm like Michael Corleone at the end
of the Godfather. Remember they christening his baby. They're baptizing
his baby, and they say, today we settle all scores.
I'm always settling my scores.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
So you're still on mission.

Speaker 5 (39:46):
You're still on the mission, of course, that's that mission
never ends.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Are you nervous? Do you walk around nervous or you
just don't care?

Speaker 5 (39:52):
Do I look like a nervous person?

Speaker 2 (39:54):
You do not?

Speaker 5 (39:55):
Do I look like a nervous nelly?

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Not even slightly?

Speaker 5 (39:58):
Exactly?

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Do you have to security here?

Speaker 5 (40:01):
Do I look like I have security? It's me myself
eye in my shadow.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
We need to get you more security.

Speaker 5 (40:06):
We need to knock around security guarantees. You're gonna get
capped security guarantees. You did Ronald Reagan get shot with security? Yes?
Did JFK get shot and killed with security? Yes? Did
Martin Luther King Junior get shot with security? Yes? So
the obvious thing, the Polish side of me, because that's
my last name, Polish Shleiva, is I do it the

(40:27):
Polish way? No security. They try to kill me the
first time, they try to kill me the second time.
You think three times to charm.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
No, you better not, Curtis, You better stay alive. We
like you around here.

Speaker 5 (40:37):
Wait wait, wait, stay alive. Hold on Saturday night fever right,
John Travolta. That was my era. I was a whirling dervish.
Oh my god. There in bay Ridge, the Bath Avenue
boys saw me at pastels and I had feet. Don't

(41:00):
fail me now, because back then I would dance and
I would see women dancing with other women. I didn't
know if they were gay as straight, but in those
clubs they were straight. It's their boyfriends had two left feet.
So these gavons, these supreme cuijiins, these jagdarules, these knuckle
dragons are sitting there, and because I would dance with
the young lady, you know what would happen. They try

(41:21):
to bust my schnozz, They try to jap me. All
of a sudden, they break my nose, and there's my
cousin Vinnie and Salad dragging me into the female bathroom.
And you know what they were saying over and over
as I had my polyestera wafflewee flame retard and shirt
on with my bell bottomed shoes and by the way,
my we call them marshmallow shoes at the time. So

(41:42):
I'm bleeding all over the place, and old Vinnie says
to sal you gotta quart it, you gotta court it. Now.
You know what they did with the quarter in the
women's room. We had to clear all the cushionets out.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Of there, I know, Can I guess that? Yes, they
bought a tampon.

Speaker 5 (41:55):
That's right, that's right. And then once they cleared the passage,
they got another one and kept shoving it up my
nose until at least they stifled the blood. You see,
when tampon Tim was running for vice president with Harris,
the governor of Minneapolis, they call him tampon Tim. Remember, huh.
I would have actually said, you know, a tampon kept

(42:16):
my nose straight many many times, because recently, when I
had an analysis of my nasal cavities, the doctor looked
up there with the probe and said, how the hell
do you not have a cooking nose? All the breaks
and fractures that I can see, I said, tampon right,
kept that that schnazola of mine straight, and it looks
good if I were Italian and Jewish. Italians and Jews

(42:39):
have big schnazolas. That's the problem that they have big beaks.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
These are all the opinions of Curtis Lee.

Speaker 5 (42:45):
No, no, no, No, this is this is street smarts.
You gotta know the vulnerabilities of your potential opponent. If
if I'm fighting an Italian guy, real, Mama Luke spam
writing the nose so he starts quieting you. Little Mama
Luke kind of know these things.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
I am going to regret this question to ask it. Anyway, Yes,
if you're fighting an Indian person, what's our weakness?

Speaker 5 (43:08):
Uh, Curry, I knew I was gonna regret it. Kurt, Absolutely,
you asked it. And by the way, dependent are you
a Muslim? Are you a Hindu? Are you a Catholic?
Because when I was in India, when I traveled from
Bumbay to Poncheri through Madras, all these Catholic schools on
the highway.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Tons, Yeah, the Colic schools.

Speaker 5 (43:29):
A lot of these guys, I think, I don't know
this to be a fact, decide to become priests because
it's the easiest way to get a green car and
get into the United States. Because if you go to
any of the Catholic churches, there are no priests. You
didn't know that, did you?

Speaker 1 (43:42):
I did know that. Yeah. There are a lot of
weird reasons for it. But the whole Catholic thing is
a colonizer thing. You know that they all came from London,
from England, from wherever, from the UK. No, no, no, no, no, yeah, yeah,
no no, they colonize. So then a lot of Indian
people got out of it, or they got.

Speaker 5 (43:56):
Green cards and got exactly. But Man, I was surprised
to see all the Catholic schools along the roadsides in
India that was booming. I mean boom me.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
What were you doing in India?

Speaker 5 (44:11):
I was actually giving speeches and Mumbay. When I gave
a speech to the educated historians there, they were telling
me about all the artifacts that the king and Queen
had stolen from the Indian that's right. And I took
to pass. Who was that, Pierce Brosnahan. No, no, no,
that was double seven Piers Morgan. Piers Morgan who had

(44:33):
me on his show. He said, oh, I see you
was saying very negative things about the king and I said, yeah,
because he stole artifacts from all over the world, not
just from India and won't return it. But the Rosetta
stone from Egypt. I can go on and on the
Parthenon and man and I said, higher.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
British Museum of Antiquities is all stolen good, every single
thing there was, And they.

Speaker 5 (44:55):
Killed a million Irish in the Potato Familine and Queen
Victoria said tough New Geese.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Yes, but they did it so politely exactly.

Speaker 5 (45:03):
See. See, we're in solidarity on that. You're my sisters
there in solidarity on that. Now, let me ask you
a question now that you're on that. In my travels,
we would stop at ashrams.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
Yes, there are lots of Gandhi ashrooms.

Speaker 5 (45:13):
Actually, uh, lots of monkeys fornicating all over the place. Okay,
uh Gandhi? What's up with that? Man? We do stop them?
I know what they like fornicating everywhere?

Speaker 1 (45:23):
Are their monkeys?

Speaker 5 (45:24):
Are you saying that?

Speaker 1 (45:25):
People? You talk about how you judge society based on
the way they treat their animals. Any people just let
their animals do what they.

Speaker 5 (45:30):
Dot's just say. You know, I was flushing a little
bit and then I'm on the road and I'm wondering
why traffic is stopped. Uh huh as a cow down
in the middle of the road and all traffic stops. Yes,
nobody goes anywhere.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
Yes, they were there first. You respect them, You let
them do their things until the cow.

Speaker 5 (45:49):
Until Elsie the cow decides to get up and.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Move away right when she's ready, they will let it happen.
We were on a seven lane highway and there was
a family of ox just camped out in the middle
traffic jam that caused, and not one person got out
and tried to move them or scare them away.

Speaker 5 (46:03):
You just wait, wait, is that when you came in
illegally into the United States? Do you have a green card?

Speaker 1 (46:09):
That's exactly I h one.

Speaker 5 (46:11):
B visa because you're one of these techno whiz kids.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
Yes, Curtis, do you know I was born here?

Speaker 5 (46:16):
You weren't. I was, oh, my god, do you have papers?
Do you have papers?

Speaker 7 (46:21):
That?

Speaker 1 (46:21):
I said, I'm not one hundred percent I might not by.

Speaker 5 (46:24):
The way, you know, the hardest papers to attain is
a birth certificate or SAT scores. You know a lot
of people say, oh this is back when I was
taking the SAT, I thought SAT was the acronym for Saturday.
Because I failed my tests. Both my scores together didn't
even fail.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
You can just not do well.

Speaker 5 (46:42):
You can't fail my combined score. You had to get
a sixteen hundred. That was a perfect score. My combined
score math writing in English was under eight hundred. And
my mother gave me two Hershey spars chocolate bars for energy,
and two sharp and number two pencils. And it didn't
matter no matter who I cheated off if I couldn't
break eight hundred. Yet there were others who claim who

(47:04):
claimed they had a perfect score, and I don't believe them.
There's no way to verify that, right.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
I used to work with a guy who lied about
his SAT scores all the time because he said, no
one can verify that.

Speaker 5 (47:13):
What does it matter exactly? I had sixteen hundred? T you, liar.
They must have become politicians.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
They must have been. Oh, he's a morning radio guy
close in the level of sleeves.

Speaker 5 (47:25):
Who are you making references to?

Speaker 1 (47:27):
He was in Columbus, Jimmy, Columbus.

Speaker 5 (47:30):
Ohio, the heartland of America. You know what? Columbus, Ohio
is a famous one. It's not just the Buckeyes Ohio state.
It is the international headquarters of White Castle, the Belly Sliders,
and of Wendy's.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
You are correct, Dave Thomas was Now, do you know where.

Speaker 5 (47:46):
The first white castles was? No? You like white castles?

Speaker 6 (47:51):
No?

Speaker 5 (47:51):
Well, when you're down and out and you don't have
a nickel ta name, and you're throwing them around like
manhole covers. You're getting. Get a nice bag of those
belly sliders. First word pattison. Every degenerator is in there online, Kansas, Topeka.
And guess what, they're no longer white castles in Topeka.
They just have this little plaque it said this is

(48:14):
where the first white castle was. I owe my life
to white castle. Man. I'm telling you, when all other
measures failed, after you're eating a brick of government cheese
and you end up with constipation, the way to loosen
it up is have a belly full of belly sliders.
That I mean, man, you put that glide in your stride.
You're back at it.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Let me ask you this, Yes, how much do you
care about sponsors?

Speaker 5 (48:36):
Oh, it's commercial radio, no ticky, no washing, no talkie.
If you don't sell product, guess what I'm gonna be
with the homeless and the emotionally disturbed in the subway
is one of them. I tell my our colleagues, you're
on commercial radio, no ticky, no washing, no talkie, So
you either learn how to sell or you're gonna be
talking to yourself in the mirror or feeding the pigeons

(48:58):
in the park.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
You are, and that brings us to why you're here,
because we didn't even mention the fact that you're now
in this building because you're on a morning radio show.
You are our direct competition. You did say that you
hate that your wife listens to us, but plug your
own show.

Speaker 5 (49:13):
Really excuse me?

Speaker 2 (49:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (49:15):
How am I in direct competition when our audiences the
geriatric depends whearing people out here. If you would ever
if you're if you're a god, you're guru, you know,
because you're involved with idolatry here for Elvis drect ooh, elvisboo.
If he were to hear this, she said, We're not

(49:36):
in competition with them. The only competition that they have
there is all the people in the senior citizen homes
trying to listen to them.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
Okay, so we're not in competition, but you are on
a morning show here. How is it going for you?
How's this all going?

Speaker 5 (49:51):
It's functional as opposed from WABC, which was complete mama drama.
It was a novella, it was a soap opera. It
was completely dis functional. So now I'm with stability I'm
with the corporate empire. Will you have to fill out
like fifty two different forms whenever you want to do
something because it keeps you it like it's your guardrails.

(50:12):
Can you imagine me without guardrails?

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Isn't that what's happening right now?

Speaker 5 (50:16):
Let's just say this is a podcast, so I can
say almost send anything, almost anything other than they should
fire Elvis, Duran and the whole Z one hundred crew.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
So I have been working here for seven and a
half years. We switched buildings. We used to be in
another building, now we're here. In the entire time that
I've been here, not once have I seen a protest.
Your ass is here for what like three weeks, two weeks,
and all of a sudden, Diamond comes in one morning
if you want to pull up to a microphone Diamond
and she says.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
They are protesting outside and we couldn't figure out who
they were protesting. And then someone goes, oh, they're protesting, Kurtis.

Speaker 5 (50:53):
Sliwa, of course what protest stays youtt. That's how you
know your somebody when people protest and you pimped my
ride before I could be on the front page of
the next day's New York Post. Who's out there your
crew with Elvis Duran protesting against himself.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
That's right, we saw it looked like a good idea.

Speaker 5 (51:14):
Now that was I must That was a great pivot
and shift. That was a great turnaround. That was a
great pirouette.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
You got me, you got got by us.

Speaker 5 (51:23):
It was because I was gonna be front page in
the New York Post, lead story in page shakes. You
stole my thunder Listen.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
Those people were nuts. The guy had the one guy
had on a white Trump jersey.

Speaker 5 (51:36):
Yeah, they were three eyed cousin forty cats. There's no guy,
probably from a trailer camp. And they stayed.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
They stayed for quite some time because Diamond called it
when she walked in, she said, there's something weird happening outside,
and we all looked and we saw this dude sort
of pacing back and forth. And then when I left
at the end of the day, our threat assessment team
stops me at the elevators. Sorry, you can't go forward,
Wait for us, Wait for us. I was like, what
is going on? This chaos over there s no hold on.

Speaker 5 (52:04):
Hold I say, yeah, the threat assessment team. That's very corporate.
How come. That threat assessment team always says go ahead, courtage,
go ahead. Leave you can leave that, go ahead, crawl
into the belly of the beast.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
No, man, they stopped me right there. You're not going anywhere.
I was like, what is happening you?

Speaker 5 (52:21):
That shows you that they choose you number one second
to none. Then I'm just a little pischer. I'm a
person in no consequence in this corporate empire of iHeart that. Oh,
everybody with novis there. He's God. He's God, and all
of his contributors is ensemble. They're untouchables. You know what
an untouchable is, don't you.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
Accusing it in exact opposite terms.

Speaker 5 (52:43):
Yes, they're untouchable.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
The untouchables in India are bad to be untouchable.

Speaker 5 (52:47):
Here, good, I see you see. I thought I would
catch you, right, I thought I would catch it. He
didn't go to sleep on me, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
Listening to you, Sleewa, I am so fascinated by everything
that you're doing. So out side of just this radio show,
you're still part of the Guardian Angels. How many cats
do you have?

Speaker 5 (53:06):
As many? As as many as Nancy can rescue from
the shelter because they are killed shelters, so they actually
put up a death row list and Nancy will Nancy
will scroll them up and she'll look at me and
I say, go get him, Go get them before they
kill him, because they kill cats and dogs. That is hudiscratsiata,
that is a chanda, and we've had hundreds. And what

(53:27):
Nancy does is she makes sure they got their shots
from the vets. She socializes him because every cat has
a different personality. I've never met one that has the same.
And then she adopts them out or forces them out.
So it's like a constant turno. But we got six
of the elderly. They're about as old as I am.
Nobody wants them because they have all kinds of human
kind of problems, you know, high blood pressure, one has

(53:50):
had a stroke, one has neurological damage. My best best
buddy in the world, ajax, you know. And then of
course says Apollo. He is the patriarch. He's from East
New York where we shoot people. He's the thug cat
that keeps them all in order, the thug cat that's
right in Athena. She's the matriarch. Oh, she's the Norwegian
forrest cat. Who says I'm a pedigree cat. Well, guess what.

(54:13):
We had to rescue you from the streets and Bay Ridge.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
You're sort of our rescue. We rescued you from the
other hition.

Speaker 5 (54:19):
You did it. But you know something, I'm so ashamed.
I said to Nanswy you listen to Elvis Aran and
all the music they put together, and all their ensemble
and all their contributors and all their creativity. But they
don't play EDM electronic dance music. That's all music, man,
that's your damn you like DM. You know where I
was the other Friday night? It was under the CA

(54:40):
Bridge with Bunt. We were under a bridge, yeah the
case great cause Juice Goo Bridge. You know that's where
they have all the concerts for EDM electronic dance music. Bunt,
you never heard a bunt. No, my god, you could
be my grandchild and you never heard a bunch. I'm
more hipping happening than you you are. It is the

(55:01):
best day of my life tripping. And then of course
my all time favorite electronic dance music group Chain Smokers.
What don't let me down because everybody in the election did.
And Paris, Oh, I can go to the whole list
go on. I listen to EDM after talk radio, which
gives me insane amounts of nightmare headaches because it's so

(55:23):
negative talk radio. And then I put on EDM and
I like, I'm in a different world.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
I would never have guessed that, And I love this.

Speaker 5 (55:32):
At seventy two years old, I am into EDM electronic
dance music, and I discovered it in Berlin in the
eighties and in London at the Rapes when I organized
Guardian Angels.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
My god, So you're just out here being a vigilante
and then raving to EDM music.

Speaker 5 (55:48):
Oh man, I'm telling you there's nothing better than DM.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
Who are you?

Speaker 5 (55:52):
I am Curtis Sliwa, the one and only Curtis Sliwa.
I have three sons. I don't think any of them
are ever going to be like Curtis sleew I hope
they're not. So I think this one breaks some old
you know, Once I'm dead and buried, once they take
a dirt bath, it's over. There's no more. Curtis Leewer,
the myth, it's probably the legend in my own mind.

(56:13):
Rip he died, he tried. By then, I probably won't
even be able to afford a tombstone. I'll be in
Potter's Field with the other million people. Anonymous people are
buried there. Did you know there are a million bodies
and potters Field and nobody cares about them?

Speaker 6 (56:27):
No?

Speaker 2 (56:27):
I did not know that.

Speaker 5 (56:28):
I think when I kicked the bucket, that's where I
want to be buried. I want to be buried with
the peeps.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
That's where you want to be I tried the peeps.

Speaker 5 (56:35):
From the streets and subways.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
You are something, So let's talk about things that are
important to you. We know that the unhoused are very important.
People with mental health issues very important to you, Animals
very important to you. Are there organizations you would like
to plug that you work with that need some help
from us?

Speaker 5 (56:53):
The Guardian angels? Okay, think I have any more time
in a twenty four hour day to work with anybody else?

Speaker 1 (56:58):
I don't know what you're doing.

Speaker 5 (56:59):
You're under bridge raving to em. I, oh, yeah, today
is the best day of my life. Man, tripping, tripping.
I am surprised that both of you haven't heard that.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
Have you heard this?

Speaker 5 (57:13):
Yeah? How do he ha? Chain smokers? Right?

Speaker 1 (57:15):
Of course we've heard the chain smokers closer is one
of the greatest songs ever.

Speaker 5 (57:18):
That's right. Don't let me down. Everybody in the city did.
Oh my god, they didn't vote for me, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (57:24):
I know about the cabridge, you know. They all turn.

Speaker 5 (57:27):
Glazing me, glaze there. Yeah, I voted for zor but
I would have voted for you the second. What do
you mean you only get one vote? Stop clazing me?

Speaker 1 (57:35):
How do you feel about Zoron now that he's here?

Speaker 5 (57:38):
Uh, they've they've tried to create this this person who's
evil my generation, baby Boomas, and I keep reminding him
it's over for us. We're out the majority, the majority
of the population and voters are millennials and Gen z
is and that was their choice. And now everybody must
suffer until I run again in twenty twenty nine. Everybody
must suffer.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
So you don't like anything that he's doing.

Speaker 5 (58:00):
At least he's not a crook like Eric Adams, who
was partying to the break of dawn. You wanted to
get Eric Adams to visit your neighborhood when he was
Maya just open up a new nightclub and be four
o'clock in the morning and people would say, hey, you
know miss maya, We got to close up, you know,
we got to get home. Oh. Now, ain't nothing good
that happens in a club after twelve midnight, after two

(58:20):
o'clock in the morning. The cocaine, the guns, or the criminality.
Nothing good is happening in a club after twelve min night.
So what the hell was the mayor doing in a
club every night until the break of dawn four am?
You don't think he was sampling the product as you
would say, Oh, oh, there's a shorty over there. Shorty,
you the freaking maya? What what kind of terminology are

(58:43):
you using? You know, keep your ants in your pants
because you need to dance. Castration should be your cure. Wow.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
So I will leave it on this because I think
a lot of people who are listening to this might
not know exactly how this last mayoral election went. People
begged you to drop out.

Speaker 5 (59:07):
Didn't just beg briden me to drop.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
Out, by me to drop out. They did anyone threaten
you till you drop out?

Speaker 5 (59:12):
Of course they dude, Let me, let me, let me
give you the litany. Okay, it's September first, right or so?
Went now two months away from decision day November fourth,
so who decided to speak up? It was Donald Trump.
I'd command you and Eric Adams in ten days to
drop out my quanta mine. What do you mean drop out?

(59:34):
Oh they're going to offer me a job in the
White House? Are you kidding?

Speaker 1 (59:37):
I can't even imagine.

Speaker 5 (59:38):
I would rather impale myself with the microphone. Here and
then the masters of the uniform of Verse, the millionaires
and the billionaires, kept saying, Hey, everybody has a price, Curtis,
what's your price? You know Eric has a price. He
hasn't agreed yet on the price. That's why he's still around.
What's your price, Curtis, I said, what do you think?

(01:00:01):
Everybody has a price? They really believe this, millionaires and billionaires.
I said, I don't have a price. I came into
this world with nothing. I leave with nothing. You can't
bribe me. And they kept going. The more I said no,
the more the figure went up. When I was with Charlemagne,
thea god at power one on five, you said, they
often you WoT ten million dollars. I would have taken it.

(01:00:22):
Most people would have taken it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
Yes, they would have.

Speaker 5 (01:00:24):
But you know, imagine you're gonna let the masters of
the universe. Eventually, Donald Trump, along with the world's richest
man Elon Musk, who looks like he's in a drug
induce psychosis all the time lesbian. They put out their
tweets that said, a vote for Sleewer is a vote
from Mondami, vote for Cuomo. They spent twenty million dollars

(01:00:46):
in the last two weeks on advertising to that, and
I lost, but I took a licking and I'll come
back taking.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
Did you.

Speaker 5 (01:00:54):
Nine?

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Did you think you were going to win?

Speaker 5 (01:00:56):
I kind of knew two months before that. Every the
first calls in the morning, and the first uh, the
first reporters would say, are you dropping out? Are you
dropping out? Are you dropping in? How the hell do
you get your missage message out? My only chance to
get the message out, and I think I did fairly
well was in the debates with Zora Mandami and the
dystopian guy who's like the uncle you don't want to

(01:01:19):
come over on holidays. Andrew evilized Cuomo. My god, by
the way, if you're thirty and younger, he's flirty. He
was slapping fannies and killing granny, he said, Andrew evilized Cuomo.
So actually that's the value on the debate stage, I
was killing it. In fact, remember Zoron. They asked them
if if you had ranked choice voting, which you don't

(01:01:41):
in the general election, but they have it in the primary.
What that is is you get it to rank your choices,
would you choose anyone? And Clomo said hell no. And
then Zorhan looked at me and he said, oh, I
choose Curtis. And I said, here's the opening. Don't be
glazing me, Zoron, And boy, that's stuck to this day.

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
I like, you know all these terms, and you have
a lot of we gotta.

Speaker 5 (01:02:02):
Know exc you gotta know when to insert as opposed
to just throw it out there into the ether. It's
like counter punching. You're not gonna knock him out. So
On was too far ahead. He had the new generation,
he had millennials, he had gen zas and they did
the hard work to get him elected. So I knew
what I had to do was chip away. I had

(01:02:22):
a counter punch, counter punch, and I had to keep
that Discratciata Cuomo away from me because every time I
would listen to Andrew evilized Conway, he would feel like
I had to go home and take a hot shower
because I felt so so I healed. Does that give
you an idea of what I thought about him? It does?

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
And I will say, I think you may be the
first person that I've ever met who I genuinely believe
does not have a price. Because we were talking about
it today that for one billion dollars in cash, a
billion in front of you in a suitcase, would you
do things that you wouldn't normally do? And all of
a sudden, yeah, I probably would A billion dollars.

Speaker 5 (01:02:59):
With that of guy to try aout that strikes me
as possibly the sequel to the movie You want to
bill millionaire, your home country, your area of originmel.

Speaker 4 (01:03:09):
You want to be a.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
Billionaire, one dog millionaire.

Speaker 5 (01:03:12):
If I didn't take ten mili, why would I take
a billion? Because first of all, if I had the money,
I'd give it away. I will give it away to
all the homeless. Emotionally distart, I am the easiest, softest touch.
People were afraid to come up to me and ask
me for anything. But if I see your needy, I'll
give you the last dollar I got in my pocket,
I believe, and my wife will say, what the hell

(01:03:34):
I gave you? How much when you walked out the
doorday because I'm on allowance. You got to keep me
on allowance. Else does away because I give it all away. Hey, look,
it wasn't made for us, it was made for everybody. Or,
as Elon Musk says, with AI, that is going to
destroy everybody's job, artificial intelligence, everybody will have abundance. We'll
have your universal income. Get out of here, you masters

(01:03:57):
of the universe. You trust these guys?

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
Hell? Oh no, hell no. Twitter is now moving in
a direction where unless you pay to be verified, they
limit how many tweets you can post and how many
responses you can.

Speaker 5 (01:04:09):
Oh is that so much for free speech?

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Right?

Speaker 5 (01:04:13):
As long as you got the shimoli's the duck, it's
the mullah shmula. Oh, verification comes with the price. So
I could be a schmuck, I could be a putts,
I could be a nor do well. I could be
like the worst imaginable thing, A skifosa, a swatch. You
know what that is?

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
No, I'm learning a lot of new words today.

Speaker 5 (01:04:33):
A ski a a diamond. Look it up in the
body's dictionary. Skihosa, how do you even spell that? A spatch?
What are these words. It depends on the dialect, what
province of Italy you came from. If you calibraise, you're
hard headed. If you're Napolitano, I'm about a's on my
mother's side, Francesca so skifosa is the worst imaginable thing

(01:04:54):
that you would you would take off the bottom of
your shoe. Uh. The Jews have a word for that
in Yiddish. It's called drek. Okay, it's fat sheep.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
What is that?

Speaker 5 (01:05:07):
That would be like? If I say, gandhi, I send
to me to see you pro you know, fat sheep?

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
No idea what you just said?

Speaker 5 (01:05:14):
It doesn't sound good. It does not. Let me just say,
depending on the dialect you speak, it doesn't matter if
you're a speaking Sicilian dialect. If you are a cheat,
you or a zip it still ain't good. I'll leave
it at that last.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
Thing for you, What do you want to see change
in the city and how can we change it?

Speaker 5 (01:05:31):
I want more people to move out so that they
could have a better way of life because all these
politicians are lying. How they're going to make it better? Affordable? Yeah, right,
affordable in New York City? Right, the prices go up
and up. Your own you're together like sardine's in a tin.
Can you know, I'm saying to myself, diamond in Gandhi.

(01:05:53):
I've been to Montana, I've been to Idaho, I've been
to Wyoming. There's so much space out there. Why don't
you pack your bags and get the hell out of
my city? That's what you want. You just want people
to go out there where there are more elk and
bison than there are people. What kind of plan is
that I'm helping you repatriate yourself? Migrate west? How many

(01:06:15):
in civilization or civilization? What go west? Young man? Go west,
young lady.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
I want them to go west. It's so beautiful and
untouched in pristine out there. We need to save something.

Speaker 5 (01:06:25):
But nowadays you can take your gurule Elvis Durand you
could do a program from anywhere. You could do it
from berkaus A, tur Lit and we do. We do
it all the time exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
But I don't want all these people going and ruining
these national parks in this beautiful land. We have to
find a different place for them.

Speaker 5 (01:06:42):
Nah, We gotta we gotta start moving people around. This
idea that we're all gonna stay in big urban areas
and have a poor quality of life with all the
tension and all the stress and the demands of pricing
that just keeps going up up hop hop hop hop
upping up. Let's just spread it around a little bit.
Like you had pea butter right sometimes when you were

(01:07:02):
at hard times, I did have that slice of white bread,
and you had a stretch to peanut butter across that
slice of bread. The same concept. Now have you ever
heard of politician say anything like, no, we need more population.
We can't even sustain the population that we have in
New York City. The city's falling apart. Subways are unmanageable

(01:07:22):
and at times unbearable. So how about encouraging Americans. Hey,
you know there's a lot of parts of the country
there's good living. Why don't you go out there and
experience it, and then if you don't like it, you
can come on back. How do you like that deal?
The Curtis Leeward deal?

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
He wants everyone to leave.

Speaker 5 (01:07:39):
No, no, specifically the ensemble of Elvis Durant, And I
want your Guru to lead you all out there, overs,
all knowing overs and get gone.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
We're gonna take over. I appreciate this. Hey, thank you
so much for joining me. This has been probably one
of my favorite podcasts. If people want to find you online,
can they do?

Speaker 5 (01:08:01):
You have Instagram, Instagram, TikTok You're on TikTok x Facebook,
But that's for the old people who like to post
what they had at Denny's the Grand Slam that morning
for breakfast.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
You said that was your audience.

Speaker 5 (01:08:14):
Yeah, I'm on it. Oh man, Substack you name it
because Substack you kind of be aud it. Oh you
gotta see my writing on EDM electronic dance music.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
I'm going to my list, and I am so shocked
that you do.

Speaker 5 (01:08:29):
Not play any DM electronic dance music.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
I am no, we play we play the Chainsmokers, but you.

Speaker 5 (01:08:34):
Don't play Bunt.

Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
I don't know what bun is. Oh my gosh, I'm
gonna go look this just.

Speaker 5 (01:08:39):
So in distress. Now, just for seventy two year old
cod you know, it's more about Bunt than Diamond from
the Hood, Never Ran, Never Wood, Bounce Meow, and Gandhi,
who traces her lineage to the man who walked around
and changed the world.

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
I can't believe this, all right, so people can find
I knew how did they find it? Is it just
at Curtis Leewa.

Speaker 5 (01:09:02):
Yeah, I think so. I'm a lot. I do not
know how to send an email text.

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
Who's doing it for you?

Speaker 5 (01:09:09):
Well? It ain't me, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
Is your wife in charge of all these accounts?

Speaker 5 (01:09:12):
No? No, not my wife. But it's a crack at
jack team of gen Ziers. Hey, why do you think?
Why do you think they invited me to lecture of
all places? Yale, Cornell, Princeton, Harvard and are coming.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
Skiley entertaining, Hi entertained.

Speaker 5 (01:09:28):
Years ago they wouldn't have given me a mop and
a bucket and a broom to clean up in those universities.
But now they can't get enough for Curtis leiwa. And
you're giving me a brisk you're cutting me off. You're
not giving me an opportunity to ramble for hours on
end if necessary. Why don't you there's a diner on

(01:09:49):
the corner. Why don't you take diamond, Go get yourself lunch,
come back and I'll still be talking, I believe. Just
tell the engineer he can go too. Just leave it
on record, said he already did. Yees see, he's gone.
He knows Curtis will be here month to Sundays, and
I'll still be talking because I suffer from blabervosia verbosa.

(01:10:09):
You know what bla bervosia verbosa is? Sounds like a
Harry that time on March twenty six, at eleven o'clock
at night in Brooklyn Hospital when doctor Duckman hit me
on my dupa, my tooks. I've been talking ever since.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
What's your birthday?

Speaker 5 (01:10:23):
March twenty six?

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
March twenty six and a.

Speaker 5 (01:10:27):
Fire? We go through the wall, not over and under
and around it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
Through the wall.

Speaker 5 (01:10:32):
Guess what?

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
Astrologically you and me are the best match?

Speaker 5 (01:10:36):
Did you know that? Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
My god, we won't tell you what what's at Sagittarius?

Speaker 7 (01:10:41):
Sagitty? So you're you're a crab? No, I'm a centaur,
Oh centaur? I excuse me, excuse me? Sometimes I am
crab by the way. You can let everybody out there know.
Although I'm seventy two and I take ben gay baths.
I'll hit him so hard that mother will feel the
vibrations I have no don't doubt challenge me or you

(01:11:03):
will pay the price.

Speaker 5 (01:11:05):
That is the best. And I stepped to you, and
then we'll see who's left standing.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
I believe it will be you.

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
I think you're one of those people who's just all
scar tissue, like impossible to hurt.

Speaker 5 (01:11:17):
Don't patronize me, don't placate me.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
I study in the podcast, as Diamond I said, I
actually feel safer despite the.

Speaker 5 (01:11:23):
Fact that now we have like no, no, no, I've
heard I'm not listening in the Diamonds. She's wearing a
New York metcat. I hate, I loathe the Mets.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
I despise that enemy's in here now.

Speaker 5 (01:11:32):
If you're a true Yankee fan, you hate to Mets.
If you're a true Met fan. If you are, you
hate the Yankees. Not like these politicians who say, well
I like both teams.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
No, no, no, no, do you hate him?

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
Diamond?

Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
I hate the Yankees.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
I've never stepped foot in Yankee Stadium and I never
will see jay Z.

Speaker 5 (01:11:53):
That's that is a true fan, pure not love. Just
remember that, Gandhi.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
I'm much more about the love. But this has been amazing.
So find him on any platform, TikTok x, threads, Instagram.

Speaker 5 (01:12:09):
Face on the platform of the number four Trained for
the Road, on.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
The platform downstairs. Look for him in his satine red jacket.
And his red beret. We're gonna figure out where we
can get these jackets. And I thank you so much
for coming in. I think we might have to do
this again at some point.

Speaker 5 (01:12:25):
I got a sea court when tomorrow, the next day,
the following day. Understand, I'm like a junkie for this man.
I need my fix. I'm popping my beans right here. See,
I got what was this? Two hours? Three hours? I
need more more more. I'm addicted. I'm addicted. Done.

Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
We're gonna give you your fix one again.

Speaker 5 (01:12:43):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (01:12:45):
And you know what, what give my hate to your
google Elvis Durant.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
I will tell him you hate him, You have told
him numerous times.

Speaker 5 (01:12:56):
Or something many and he just smiles at me like
he does to everybody else. Does he not realize that
I hate him? Right down to the marrow of his bone?
The marrow of his bone?

Speaker 3 (01:13:05):
I think he knows?

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
And there he was our man, the people's mares he
likes to call himself. Who wants to be buried in
a pauper's graveyard? Apparently?

Speaker 5 (01:13:19):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
But you know what a pauper is, Oh, it's a
very poor person with absolutely nothing to their name. Yes,
but You're right. Pottersfield still the paupers graveyard, all of it.
I think he's the first person I ever met, which
I think I did say this. You know, we always
say if somebody handed you a briefcase with a billion dollars,

(01:13:41):
all of our morals would go out the window. Because,
and I'm including myself in this, for a billion dollars,
there's not a lot I wouldn't do.

Speaker 5 (01:13:49):
Yeah, not a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
There are some things I wouldn't do, but not a lot.
I firmly believe Curtis gives no fucks. Yeah, he doesn't care.
You could offer him a billion dollars. He doesn't care.
And those are the scariest people you will ever meet.

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
Man, he's the best, Brownsville's finest.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
You know, last episode we were talking about how I
love people who name names. He made me nervous. Okay,
he scared me. Oh this is a legend. Actually it's not.
I mean, he's you know, he's shit. But I had
nothing to do with it. I'm just the journalist here,
just the reporter, not even a journalist. I'm just doing
a podcast interview. So if anyone's listening to this, that
maybe just got out of jail. I don't know. We're just,

(01:14:28):
you know, un running with the U. I can't even
say the facts. I don't know. This is what he
does to people, like he'll throw you off.

Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
I have not been centered since he left the studio.

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
For time and said I gotta call my dad. Everybody,
everybody was so engaged in this interview. Scary went into
Deanna's studio and was watching on the monitors what we
were talking about. I didn't know that he's like, I mean,
I was laughing so hard. I just had to hear
what the rest of this was about. Scottie stuck around

(01:15:03):
for a while listening to the interview. They don't care
about anything we do. Those two really stuck it out.
I hope you suck it out and made it to
the end of this. Curtis is Curtis is that dude
sleeve off for mayor?

Speaker 5 (01:15:17):
What is it?

Speaker 3 (01:15:18):
The people?

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
The People's mayor? And you know what else I thought
was hilarious. Not once did he pronounce mom Donnie correctly.

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
You know, that's like one of my biggest pet peeves.
But I didn't care.

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
Well, I don't think he was doing it on purpose,
Like a lot of people say Kamala just to be
Dick's when she has said it's Kamala repeatedly. I don't
think he was doing that. I think he was really
just fucking it up.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
And he was on that stage when mom Donnie made
it very clear how to pronounce his name. He was
on that stage.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
Not one time, do it one time. But you know what,
he deserves a follow yeah, oh yeah, we should go
follow him. And this is also one of those things
where I'm like, like we've said repeatedly, it's not about
party lines, it's not about Republicans versus Democrats, it's about
good versus evil. And Curtis wherever he is on that,

(01:16:10):
on that little spectrum, I think he's good.

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
He has a private Instagram What the Curtis dot sliwa
Is it actually him?

Speaker 5 (01:16:19):
Though?

Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
Thirteen thousand followers dot? What did he make it?

Speaker 4 (01:16:23):
Five?

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
You know what I'm here for it, Curtis.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
You're getting a follow He has a public one Curtis
from mayor following that too.

Speaker 1 (01:16:33):
You're following both of his pages. Two do you think
he forgot the password to one of them? And that's
why there's oh there it is? Oh that has a
lot of followers. Okay, Curtis, I am here for it.
Can I tell you I feel weird calling him Curtis
because he's older than me, and I feel like it's
just a respect thing to like call you mister Slee.
Well like I think my parents will be upset with me.

(01:16:54):
But then at the same time, he's a coworker, and
then he also was, you know, running for elected office.
So I don't know, but I never I didn't feel
like I should call Jason Lee mister Lee.

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
No, Curtis is just so down to earth that he's
gonna get Curtis from me. He could be my grandfather
and I'd still be like, Curtis.

Speaker 5 (01:17:09):
What up?

Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
I'm getting a jacket, all right? To follow Curtis wherever
he is on one of his Instagram pages. I just
followed both of them, but follow us. I am at
Baby Hot Sauce on Instagram and threads and x and whatever, Twitter,
whatever you want to call it. Diamond, you are at
at Diamond. Sincere like follow subscribe to the podcast please
we would really appreciate it and leave us a talk

(01:17:35):
back and a review because I'm sure people have stuff
to say about whatever just happened here. Until next time,
we have a lot of stuff coming up and I'm
excited about it. Nick Cannon's on the way. Yeah, he
was one of my childhood crushes. I'm not going to
tell him that though I'm a professional, please and I

(01:17:56):
no longer have that crush. It's way, way, way gone fine.
I think after like the ninth kid, I was like, yeah,
this is my thing. Yeah, we're done with that. But uh,
Nick Cannon will be here sometime soon hopefully.

Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
You never know.

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
They might cancel and we've got more on the way
as well. But I don't want to tease too much
because if they don't come, then I just look like
a loser.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
But you should do your burn books should be people
who said that they were coming and then you Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
I mean current Stuffan's forever, superhead, forever. That bitch I'm
talking about. I made her feel unsafer, unwell, whatever it was.
I don't want to diss the other two who just
canceled the other day, Oh, because I think they're coming back.
They'll be back. Yeah, we're gonna have a couple on
that you might like and or not. Yeah, we'll figure
that out. What to tease And the only reason I'm

(01:18:44):
not saying it, as we said, is because I'm nervous
because I do want them to come on, but they
were supposed to be here and they canceled. And yeah,
we're working on a lot of stuff. So until next time,
thank you for listening. Say by night in bye

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