America Needs An Oxygen Mask | Bonus Episode

In this bonus episode of Selective Ignorance, Mandii B and the crew jump into one of the most polarizing conversations in sports and politics: transgender women competing in women’s athletics. The discussion begins with a sports rant [ 00:06 ] before asking who should ultimately determine WNBA eligibility rules—the league, its players, governing bodies, or outside lawmakers [ 01:08 ]. The crew weighs arguments surrounding biology, gender identity, and athletic competition [ 02:36 ], including questions of physicality and competitive fairness [ 05:57 ], before testing the conversation through hypothetical locker-room scenarios [ 07:15 ] and considering how much voting power WNBA players themselves should have over league policy [ 08:22 ]. They unpack what people actually mean when discussing gender transition [ 10:48 ] and question whether the larger controversy has become a political distraction from issues with a more direct impact on everyday Americans [ 14:26 ], before humor enters the debate through a conversation about the financial realities associated with transitioning [ 15:26 ].

The crew switches gears to music [ 20:42 ] after encountering a report claiming releases from major artists including Taylor Swift, Drake, Bad Bunny, and Kendrick Lamar coincided with increases in deadly traffic crashes [ 20:49 ]. Rather than accepting the headline at face value, they question correlation versus causation [ 21:59 ], dig into the statistics, methodology, data sources, and variables that could influence the findings [ 25:28 ], and debate whether audience and attendance numbers complicate the conclusions [ 26:48 ]. Hip-hop discourse continues as they unpack The Game’s grievances involving Kendrick Lamar and Nipsey Hussle’s circle [ 27:12 ], questioning mixed messages, loyalty, comparisons, and when legitimate criticism begins to resemble attention-driven conflict [ 30:02 ].

Politics returns to the forefront as the hosts react to Elon Musk calling for Derek Chauvin’s release [ 32:25 ], debating whether provocative culture-war issues are being used to energize political audiences while larger policy concerns receive less attention. From there, they redirect the conversation toward what they consider the “real issues” affecting everyday life, including healthcare, public education, voting rights, employment, government services, and the rising cost of travel [ 35:33 ]. Mandii then challenges Jah to move beyond political criticism and explain what solutions his ideal politician would seek to implement in three major areas: healthcare, public education, and voting rights [ 42:26 ]. The exercise sparks a deeper discussion about what voters should expect from elected officials, the difference between identifying problems and proposing solutions, and which policies could meaningfully improve people's everyday lives. The crew further examines the economics of the American healthcare system and the tension between patient care and profit [ 50:27 ]. Naturally, Selective Ignorance finds room for one last detour—the timeless ranch versus blue cheese debate [ 53:16 ]—before wrapping the bonus episode with final thoughts and credits [ 55:29 ].

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Mandy B.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Welcome to Selective Ignorance, a production of the Black Effect
Podcast Network and iHeartRadio.

Speaker 3 (00:06):
Man, y'all got to stop the clown shit. I got daughters.

Speaker 4 (00:11):
I played basketball on the highest level. Won on the
highest level. Matter of fact, I won on every level.
There's no woman that could ever play in the NBA, bro.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Ever.

Speaker 4 (00:18):
And we've had some great women basketball players, but none
of them were good enough to play in the NBA
because it's men. A man should not belong in those
women's sports. It's the ones that saying they should. Y'all
going to be out of jobs. Then what you gonna say?
You gonna have two NBAs?

Speaker 3 (00:33):
No, bruh. No, no, no.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
Y'all not making no sense. Y'all trying to make it
about Ennis Cantor?

Speaker 3 (00:38):
He trying to protect women's basketball. I don't understand what
the problem is with him.

Speaker 4 (00:44):
Black people have been identified as free and equal for
how long?

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Half of y'all still ain't accepted that.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
So y'all want people to accept a grown man with balls?
That's going playing women's sports and just accepted he a woman?

Speaker 3 (00:57):
No, man, I got daughters.

Speaker 4 (00:58):
And other fathers that got daughters agree with me. You
don't want no man in women's sports.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
This is clown shit. More luffing behavior.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
I don't, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:10):
Because the thing about it is, this has to be,
first off, this has to be, this issue, however you
view it, it's not going to be decided by no man.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
That's just what it's going to be.

Speaker 5 (01:23):
It's not going to be a man that's going to
decide whether or not trans women get to play in
the WNBA. It's going to be the WNBA brass and
the players, none of which are men. There's no trans
people in the... There's no men with balls in the WNBA.
There's never been a trans person drafted in the WNBA.

(01:44):
I'm not even sure a trans person has ever entered
the WNBA draft.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Well, apparently that's what they're trying to do. I think this.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Even his cancer.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
And Royce White.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
And Royce White.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Who aren't even real trans women.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
But what's the source of.

Speaker 5 (01:59):
What is inspiring them to do this? Has it been
something that we missed that's happening politically under the radar?

Speaker 1 (02:06):
No, it's just the fight against trans having rights at all.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Because I feel like this is another distraction again.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
No, it's definitely another distraction.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Who wins and who loses here? What's the point of
this conversation?

Speaker 2 (02:17):
According to Stack, his sentiment was, if we allow trans
women into the WNBA.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
And this is where it gets hard to talk about
this without Stacks. Let me finish, King.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
My bad, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
The issue is, it's hard to have this conversation without
sounding transphobic. Because essentially what Stacks said is, if you
allow trans women into the sport, you no longer have WNBA,
you have NBA, because those are men. Which trans women
identify as women. So you have the issue between man
and woman, male and female. but also biology versus.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
How you want to identify it.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
And that's where all of this becomes a little.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
So say it. Everybody needs to say it.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
You want me to say a man with balls, but
these are.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
Not cis men with balls.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
But a trans woman could have balls.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
No, I'm just saying... Which is.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Technically a woman. And this is the fucking frustration.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
So say it. Why don't you just say it? You
know what?

Speaker 5 (03:18):
We do not subscribe to having, instead of this circle
jerk shit going. That's what he said. I mean, that's
what he said. But they're not. You said they're tippy-toeing around.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
No, I'm saying it's hard to have this conversation without
sounding transphobic.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
But they are, though, right? Yeah, they are. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Stand on it.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
And this is my problem.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
They are.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
This is my problem. I am not transphobic. I do
not believe trans women should be in women's sports. But
I am not transphobic.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
But it is difficult to have the conversation about, With
using the correct language.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
You just did it.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
You just did it.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
No, but it's still very hard for me to... Because
then you have to be particular in what you're saying, right?
So for me, I don't think that you would.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Remove the WNBA and it becomes the NBA because now
you have men playing in this league with women when
essentially trans women identify as women. This is why it's complicated.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
So they fear that there's going to be a trans woman.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
To me, the biological difference, no, the biological differences is
the reason why trans women should not play in sports.
I don't know if y'all, I think, did we not
talk about it? Or did y'all see, so there is,
in the state of California currently, a, didn't we drop
it in the chat? There's a, or maybe I saved it.

(04:33):
I should find it.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
There is a.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
High schooler who is in Long Jump and Track and Field.
If you could look it up, there is.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
A trans, there we go. Abby Hernandez.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Abby Hernandez.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Hernandez or Rodriguez. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
And so this is a trans girl because it's high school,
you know, a trans girl who has been allowed to
participate in girl sports, and even in the long jump,
outjumped the furthest by like eight feet.

Speaker 5 (05:09):
But she also came in like third and fourth in
a bunch of other track and field things.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
But is also coming in first to a lot.

Speaker 5 (05:16):
But here's my problem with the biological argument that I
don't think holds up.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
A.B.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Hernandez.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
You're A.B. Hernandez, right?

Speaker 2 (05:22):
First, she was forced to share first place With cisgender
girls at track meet.

Speaker 5 (05:28):
But here's the problem, though. And this is the biological
part that never holds water. Because the same NBA that
Shaquille O'Neal played in, Muggsy Bogues plays in. The same
NBA that Yao Ming plays in, Steph Curry plays in. Like,
Yao Ming is two and a half feet taller than
that man and probably weighs 100 pounds more than him.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
You just named players in complete different positions, though.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
But it doesn't matter, though.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
But hear me out.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
That's not their argument.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Do you agree with Stack that the best WNBA player
couldn't be in the league and.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
play against the worst NBA player and be better?

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Because- I don't know that for sure.

Speaker 5 (06:10):
We've never seen it before, but I don't know for
sure that every NBA player, just because they're a man,
has more basketball talent than any woman in the WNBA.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
If you're talking about, you're going to, if we're in
a post- Like, I think a WNBA.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Player could beat someone at the Y.

Speaker 5 (06:23):
Olivia Miles can do all the shit she's doing right now,
running around motherfuckers, dribbling, and behind the back passes. She
can do all that shit in the league because there's
small players who are doing that in the NBA right now.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
Jalen Brunson and Olivia Miles ain't that much different in weight.
Jalen Brunson is six foot two. But here's the thing.
The thing is though, y'all, listen. There's a physicality. Is there?

Speaker 1 (06:44):
There is.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
But that's my point, though.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
By logic.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
So what web anywhere near, close, as strong as Shaq? No,
but he can take... No, he can't. No, he can't. No,
he can't.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Shaq is not.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
Going down in the post with- And there's no telling,
all these women in the WNBA are small. That's why
I said there's different positions. There's different positions.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
But it's not as- You can't compare a guard and
a center.

Speaker 5 (07:06):
A 5'7 biological male that weighs 125 pounds is not
going to necessarily muscle a woman who's 5'8 and weighs
20 pounds more than him. Okay, but when she gets
dunked on and he does all the hand gestures and
all that, are we going to change that up?

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Don't do that. Once the WNBA all start- The bitches
is dunking now.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
I know that. I'm saying a man dunking. No, no, no, no.
I'm not saying they're not. I'm saying a man dunking
on a woman.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
Ah!

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Listen. With her in it. But they do that. But
this is my point.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
About- Now you're making it sexual.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
No, no.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
A nigga can't put his balls in a woman's face
playing basketball.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Do you know how that works?

Speaker 2 (07:41):
When I buck somebody out with my ass when I'm
playing sports, it ain't sexual.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
So look- Look at you making shit sexual. So boom.
And this is going to sound crazy, so pardon me,
because it happened.

Speaker 5 (07:50):
So we already had to- So let's say she's on
your team and she hit a three with two, we
down two and she hit a three, like, yeah, we celebrating.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
Bam!

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Look at you.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
You can pat the ass.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
It's a sportsmanship movie.

Speaker 5 (08:04):
I didn't say not, but you know it's going to
be a thing. Oh, you can't pat the woman on
the ass too hard. We go from.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Trans women playing in sports to fucking sexual harassment.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
You said that's on your ass.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
You're such a man.

Speaker 5 (08:15):
Because the men be slapping other men on the butt.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
But this goes back to my whole point, though. And
it's not gay.

Speaker 5 (08:19):
This goes back to my whole original point. Women are
going to decide. Women are going to decide. if they're
fine with that... Yo, this shit's going to be done.
And if the WNBA brass, the commissioner and all of that,
and the players association, if they all decide, yeah, we're
cool with it, then who the fuck cares?

Speaker 3 (08:38):
They want to get dunked on, they can get dunked on.

Speaker 6 (08:40):
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
I'm not going to hold you.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Fuck the commissioner, fuck whoever's sitting behind a desk. It
needs to be a vote by the players.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Oh, no, the players have to have a say. Let's
be very clear.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Someone who used to play sports back in my day,
if I knew one of the other schools was letting.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
a biological man, trans girl play against us, I'd vote
against it.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
Yo, there's a seven. I'm sure. I mean, we already
know that.

Speaker 5 (09:08):
There's that six foot eight, brolic, trans woman.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Look at us.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's over. I'm sorry. If she comes
in the NBA, it's a wrap.

Speaker 5 (09:23):
But again, they're going to vote. We already know Sophie
Cunningham is going to vote against it. She's not going
to be by herself. But if it's a vote, And
we're doing a democratic thing.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
For how the women feel. If they get outvoted, then
it is what it is.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
Quit.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
If you don't want to be here no more, then
quit the WNBA.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
What percentage do you think?

Speaker 5 (09:45):
It's going to be overwhelmingly four. It's not even going
to be close.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
What percentage of WNBA players do you think would vote
for trans women playing in the league?

Speaker 3 (09:55):
At least 75, if not more.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
What?

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
You're not a woman. I don't even know why I
asked you.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
You. The league is largely gay women who are... Gay
doesn't mean... No, it will make you more. It makes
you more what?

Speaker 5 (10:11):
It will make you more open to the idea of
playing with a change.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
No, it will not.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
I'm a part of the community.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
I am.

Speaker 5 (10:19):
I don't know why you don't. No, you can be,
but you'll be in the 25%. What do you mean
I can be?

Speaker 4 (10:23):
I am.

Speaker 5 (10:23):
No, what I'm saying is that you'll be in the 25%
and you'll be mad and you'll have to quit.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
You think.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Yet.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Only 25% of the WNBA.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
I think it's going to be well over 75% of
the women in the WNBA.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
Are like, yes, trans women can enter.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
Yes, if it's a vote, I think yes. Majority of
them are going to vote.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
And this, unfortunately, is my problem, right?

Speaker 3 (10:42):
Because, hold on.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
And here where this then gets sticky and tricky.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Seeing what Enos Cancer and Royce White are doing, You
then go from what is the definition of a woman
to what is the definition of transitioning and a trans woman.
Because we have men right now saying, oh, I can
just identify as a woman.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
That makes me trans.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
To me, then, it gets even more sickier to where
you're then going to have to label and place what
is the difference then between a man and a trans woman.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
Hear me? What do you mean?

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Because if you're then just allowing trans women to join
the league. Mm-hmm. Right?

Speaker 2 (11:24):
They are biological men transitioning to women. At what point
do then you take off the man identifier outside of
just the way you identify?

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Because then it could just be men. Like Royce White,
how he put on a goddamn wig and said, I'm
trans now.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yeah, but you know what's disingenuous?

Speaker 5 (11:43):
If you're going to join the WNBA, you've probably been
playing basketball for a significant amount of time.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Not the way men believe that biologically, they are just
more athletically built and can enter the WNBA having played
at the Y.

Speaker 5 (11:58):
Yeah, if WNBA allows any walk-on to just enter the draft,
then okay, great. That doesn't mean you're going to get
picked because you have no history. How will we know
you're good? Before you're even trans, can you play basketball?
Are you good at this? If you are, you probably
played in high school.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
College, somewhere professional.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
You know what's funny about that?

Speaker 5 (12:15):
And you didn't just pop up on Thursday as a
professional man playing in Europe, and now I want to
go to the WNBA, so now my name is Shaniqua,
and I'm going to go play for the— That's not,
that's disingenuous.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
No one's going to take that seriously. You know what's crazy?

Speaker 1 (12:28):
And I kind of want to rewatch this to see
what happened with Juana Mann.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
People think that's real. They think it's a documentary. That's
what they think.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
They do not think Joanna Mann is no goddamn documentary.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
They absolutely think it's a documentary. They think that's going
to happen.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
If you do not know the Joanna Mann conversation, you
are too young to be listening to this podcast.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
But you can still listen to the podcast.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
You can still listen, but you're a little young and
you might want to go watch Joanna Mann. But I
think that that is an interesting take. We know the
NBA and WNBA to pull their talent from college to
and overseas. And so it is going to take, I think, truthfully,
a vast uptick in collegiate sports and overseas sports being

(13:15):
accepting of trans players. Now we do see high school
in California, the A.B. Hernandez, and then we do see
the trans woman playing.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
In Russia, right?

Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah, or somewhere over in Europe.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
But to me, because this is the hot topic that
it is, say the WNBA even says we allow trans women,
the pool of trans women, if they're still only selecting
from college and it's going to.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Be so small, it's not going to make a difference.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Because colleges would then have to, the NCAA and their rules.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
Would have to change.

Speaker 5 (13:48):
You know how these white owners and donors and sponsors
of these schools and taking it a step further. you
know they're going to move the goalposts, and they say, hey,
do we now accept a trans man in the NBA?

Speaker 3 (14:00):
And I know how the owners are very, very....

Speaker 5 (14:04):
But if it's the same thing, we're talking about a vote,
I'd be willing to bet that if it was the
other way around, the same way I'm saying, I think
majority of the women in the WNBA will vote for
if it comes down to that. I think most of
the men in the NBA, if it was a trans woman,
will also go for it, will say yes, because they
don't care. Because in that case, now you're talking about

(14:24):
the physicality difference.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
Well, to them, it's not.

Speaker 5 (14:26):
They're going to say, well, don't make no difference to
me if she a trans woman. and she wants to,
I'm a trans man, and she wants to come play,
or he wants to come play in the NBA, come on,
I'm going to bust her ass.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
This is all a distraction, and I'm tired.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
You got to vote in the midterms.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
I'm tired.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
Because it's all bullshit.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
First off, can we not get off of trans women
in sports and then saying you got to vote in
the midterms?

Speaker 1 (14:44):
That was getting very concerning. God damn.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
No, no, no, no, no. What I'm saying is it's distracting.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
I don't think, I was about to say, I don't
think that's a thing that we're going to be dealing
with for.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
The next time. Most of the people that go online
talking about the W, don't watch the WNBA. They don't
watch the WNBA at all. They don't care at all.
They don't care at all.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
And there's not enough trans athletes to even fill up
the WNBA with all.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
These trans basketball. But that's what I said, it depends
how they go with identifying. Once you open the door,
momentum happens.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Oh, and I'm not going to lie, and they pay
the girls now.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Niggas is broke.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
They'll transition for some money.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
And they'll know it's fake.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
Niggas will suck dick for money. Like, they will do
a lot of things for some change.

Speaker 5 (15:22):
Oh, people do a lot of shit for money, but
I don't see it happening.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
How much money would you need to transition? Let's get
real ignorant.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
This episode is coming out at 1 a.m.

Speaker 5 (15:32):
Friday into Saturday morning.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
Under the radar. Is there not a funny.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
That would make me transition to being a woman?

Speaker 3 (15:41):
No.

Speaker 5 (15:42):
You like being a man? So transition means that that's
fully how you identify now.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
You've given up everything. You don't have to identify. You
just did it to get the bag. I don't think
I want my dick. There's trans people who don't undickify.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
You're right.

Speaker 5 (15:55):
So he want to take the money, act like it,
but still be able to fuck, but take the money,
but he just don't want to publicly.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
No, no, no. Full transition.

Speaker 5 (16:02):
No, there's no amount of money in the world.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
You like your dick that much?

Speaker 3 (16:06):
I like who I am that much. He's like, boom,
boom that much. But I can still get that, though.
You can be trans and be straight. Not if you
don't got the tools. Let's be clear. I'm never getting
rid of my dick.

Speaker 5 (16:18):
You can call me Brittany, Bethany.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
But your sexuality doesn't change with transition.

Speaker 5 (16:25):
There's trans lesbians.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
That's why the Jenner still dates women. with a dick,
but as a woman.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
Also, transitioning had nothing to do with the removal of.
It's a gender thing. Removal of. It doesn't have to be.
Everyone doesn't get the surgery.

Speaker 5 (16:39):
So the transitioning is just enriching, like.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
The enrichment of it.

Speaker 5 (16:44):
Of your soul, of your inner self. I identify with that.
That's like saying, how much could you pay me to
be like, you want to be Asian now? Like, no,
I want to be black in whatever lifetime.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
I come back into. I mean, I do like my coochie,
but I would get a dick. But it got to
be a big one.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
I could be biased. You don't know. What if they
fucked up?

Speaker 1 (17:03):
No, I wouldn't want a little dick. First off, I
want good surgery.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
But what do they tell you you're going to get?

Speaker 2 (17:08):
We are talking from the most successful procedure happening with
the best doctor.

Speaker 5 (17:14):
You're not fucking around me and you get a micropene.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
I don't want a micropenis. I would want a big dick.
If I can't have a big dick, I wouldn't transition.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
Yeah, but if it's botched, then it's over with.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
I'm just saying it wouldn't be a botched surgery. If
I knew that scientifically, even if I transitioned, my dick
would be a certain size. If it wasn't above a
certain size, I.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
Wouldn't want to do it. Oh, you got that.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
I know I got it, but I'm saying someone would
have to pay me to transition, and I would Take
some money, but I would.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
Need a big dick. That's a big, 6,000, I mean,
your shit about to be bodged. You getting that Timu dick.
Timu dick is crazy. That wish dick. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (17:55):
No, but I'm laughing because I'm thinking the same way
that women ask, like, who's the best doctor for BBL?

Speaker 3 (17:59):
BBL, yeah. Like, you got to ask, who's the best dick?

Speaker 1 (18:02):
There's definitely a doctor that does transition.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
Like, who makes the best dick? That's a crazy thing.
I need the best dick doctor. I need the best dick.
Somebody please tell me. Best dick and plant doctor.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Where do I get the best dick? And I want
a big dick. And I want my dick to work.
And I want it to be able to shoot. I
need to be able to come out my dick.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Oh, you want to be able to shoot, see. That's all.
That's interesting. See, I don't know if that's the word.
I see the $ 100, 000. You got to go shoot.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
I want the best. That's that Maybach dick.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
I want the best dick.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Like a Starlink in her dick.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
I don't want the Corolla dick. I want the Maybach dick.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
I want the Maybach dick. That's cool. Are we going
to be able.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
To keep it? We got to move on. Let's move on.
Let's talk about Jay-Z on, talking about beef at a
baby shower.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
Or a birthday party.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
I don't know what it is. No, we said we'll talk.
We got to get off of this topic.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (18:44):
For the next month, we're not talking about trans women
in sports. We're just not.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
I'm on the right side of it. We keep talking
about it all day.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Are you on the right side or the left side?

Speaker 3 (18:55):
Oh, she said right side, like right. Oh, the right, no.
I'm on the correct side. I don't think you are.
I absolutely am.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
I don't think that 75% of, you know, let.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
Me ask you guys.

Speaker 5 (19:05):
You notice that there's no, you notice there's no support
for this. Like, there's no one coming, Sophie Cunningham started
this shit publicly, and then Enos and Royce doing their
fuck shit.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
There's not any other players who are coming out rallying
to this shit.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Because they're being told by PR just to keep it
on the low, we're not allowing them in the league.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
But, Players don't care about that.

Speaker 5 (19:22):
If you feel passionately about this, you're going to speak
up regardless of what the PR say.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
No one's coming out and saying anything.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
When it comes to a vote.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
But like I said, right now, there's not an influx
of trans athletes with eligibility to.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Join the league.

Speaker 4 (19:35):
Sure, sure, sure.

Speaker 5 (19:36):
But I'm just saying there's no outspoken... The only people
bitching about this are the people outside the ring.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
You can't even get in the club.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
You right.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
But there's no players coming out and be like, yeah,
Sophie's right. Okay.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
OK.

Speaker 5 (19:51):
Not going to happen because the women there don't care.
Black women are going to be like, I'm not going
to exclude these people.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
Bring their ass in here. I'll bust their ass too.
They're athletes.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
OK.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
You'll see.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
And it was like, one day this podcast will be
floating around. No, it won't. I'm nervous.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
I don't know why we need this floating around, honestly. Because, again,
it's difficult to have this conversation without coming across as transphobic.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
No, you are right about that. I understand that.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Because I do believe in trans rights.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
But I don't believe in the right to play basketball
with people. I get it.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Biological women. So tricky.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
I get it. But just know.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Hey, get the goddamn ISO off of me, bitch, while
I'm saying that shit.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
I'm over there to see you. Put that shit on wide.
Cut me out.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
I don't need them to have me in ISO saying
that shit. A. King, give me the next topic. You said, oh,
you know what? Let's go.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Let's start with music and then we'll get into Jay-Z on.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
So there is a recent.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Report that came out And it shows, data shows, that
there is a spike in deadly crashes when certain albums
are released, such as Taylor Swift.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
I don't like that.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
Drank.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Bad Bunny and Kendrick Lamar.

Speaker 4 (21:15):
Now, I.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Have a take on this.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
You know what else happens on.
You know what else coincides with album releases?

Speaker 3 (21:29):
What's that?

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Fridays.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Niggas get paid. Niggas are outside. I drink.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
I drink.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
The week is over. Happy hours are happening.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
I'm cutting loose.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Hey, especially a lot of these albums dropped in the summertime.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Guess what we got, especially in the north? Summer Friday,
where you're getting out of work earlier. So for me,
this is something that could have potentially been skewed. I'm
curious as to the amount of car crashes on Fridays
in comparison to every other day.

Speaker 5 (22:00):
Well, also, I need to know, is this actually, like,
Correlation without causation is a real thing, right?

Speaker 3 (22:05):
Like, there's no.

Speaker 5 (22:07):
Just because there's more car crashes happening when these albums
comes out has no... There's no evidence necessarily that the
albums coming out are making the car crashes. Are the
reasons behind that. Yeah, so it's like, maybe this is
a fucked up month, maybe... I mean, there's albums coming
out all the time.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
All the time.

Speaker 5 (22:22):
And there's niggas drink driving and getting in car crashes
all the time.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
And to be fair, if.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
We look at even this list.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Minus y'all's mans, Kendrick Lamar. It's everybody's mans. But Bad Bunny,
Taylor Swift, and Drake have been consistent. And also dropping albums.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
On a regular basis. Yeah, Kendrick is up. Consistent mid.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
No, consistent. Drake has dropped an album almost every fucking eight.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
Months for the last 10 years. But just because you
drop an album don't mean it's good. One.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
Oh, no.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
This is not the conversation. Creating art. Oh, God. Creating
intentional art. That's why the dude got all the accolades
he got. Not just putting out mids.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Bro, comprehension skills. No one talked about... how good or
bad these albums were.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
But she said y'all men.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
Carrie put it in a bad disposition. Stop it. You know,
it's Shady from the gate.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
I'm just saying y'all men only dropped one album in
a decade.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
That has nothing to do with anything.

Speaker 5 (23:11):
I think what happens is we get excited about these releases,
these album releases.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
And we might.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
So you believe this data is.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
At first I was like, man, who the fuck... First
of all, yes. Why would you even... Who comes up
with data about that? First off, we need data. And
why does data send us data? But there's no way
to connect these things. How do you even.

Speaker 5 (23:32):
Is Geico, State Farm, and Progressive reporting that.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
The only place you can get this data from... No,
you know what it is? The only place you can
get this data from is from a Tesla.

Speaker 5 (23:42):
Because maybe you can say, oh, they were playing this
song and then they crashed their car.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
And even that is like a weak level of connection.

Speaker 5 (23:50):
But like a regular car, who knows when you switched
your car 10 million times when you were listening to it?
If these are the artists, I can't pinpoint records from
them that might get excited. Well, Taylor Swift people are like,
they're irrational people. So they might be hyped up off
the dumbest pop tune in the world.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Are there minivans?

Speaker 5 (24:08):
Driving down the street, swerving and banging their head and
going crazy to the new.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
No, actually, they're probably crying their eyes out for the ex-boyfriend.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Now they relate to the songs. They might be actually
crashing on their way to their ex-boyfriend's house.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
Could be that. Bad Bunny.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
They're definitely drinking rum punch and driving.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
Where at, though? Where, where?

Speaker 1 (24:28):
I'm just playing.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
That was a joke. Yeah, get her. I'm just playing.
I'm just playing. Hold on, get me now. Where at, though?
The Bronx, Washington Heights, Bushwick? Baby! Well, you know when
the Drake album.

Speaker 5 (24:41):
Comes out, they're sipping little spritzers with little orange garnishes
with their pinkies out.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
You know. Bruv.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Breath.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
No, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
I don't know if I necessarily like a lot.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
There is an excitement, though.

Speaker 5 (24:55):
I don't know if you lead to me getting into
an accident, but in the whip, we always do the
car test, right?

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah, the hype.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
Y'all always do it in the car.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
I haven't had a car in years.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
Because you get driven around everywhere. Fancy. Uber everywhere.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Uber everywhere. So I don't do the car test.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
Oh, okay. Yeah, I definitely But that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (25:18):
I can see where you might get distracted, especially if
you get excited, you hear a record, you listen to
the musicality of it, the bars, and you're like, oh shit.
But I would like to see the locations of these. Yeah,
I just need to see what were the variables in
this study.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
That's the tricky thing.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
That was probably my least favorite class, too. Like, when
you get into statistics, and when you get into sample sizes,
and when you get into the different things that are
actually being tested or hypothesized, and, you know, you have
constant variables, and you have.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
There's statistics for everything.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
You know, but to me, even those sample sizes and
how they're supposed to represent the masses, again.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Are you doing, the U.S. is going to be different
than Europe. Florida is going to be different than New York. Like,
there's so many just.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
I don't know how to, how do you quantify.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Any of that?

Speaker 3 (26:15):
It's so difficult.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
And I was just always like, tricky. I hated stats.
I hated stats real bad.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
I mean, yeah, numbers can lie.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Numbers can lie.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
Like, numbers can very much lie because.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Even though they say numbers don't lie.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yeah, but it's like I said, men lie, women lie,
numbers don't. Yeah, but it's like numbers covers a lot
of space.

Speaker 5 (26:35):
If we're talking about stats, right, I can put whatever
variables I want in the thing.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
And make the number.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
I mean, it was also the conversation, too.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
You're an accountant. You know niggas be cooking books.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
No, for sure you could cook books, but that's the,
even the conversation that was had a couple weeks ago
about InvestFest.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
They said the most attendees, 31,000. 31,000 people came out.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
But how many of those were paid compared to given out?

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Right, right.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
You know what I mean? What does attendees mean? People
that were in the building? Is that security? Is that
the cops?

Speaker 5 (27:01):
Is that the vendors in the food truck? That there
was 31,000 people on the footprint?

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
For 31,000 tickets sold?

Speaker 1 (27:08):
It gets tricky.

Speaker 6 (27:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
It gets real tricky.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
All that shit can be footy-dutty.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Now, when we came in here, you brought up a
clip that I saw that I did not have context to.
Why was the game talking about Black Sam and Kendrick
Lamar at a.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
Goddamn baby shower?

Speaker 5 (27:28):
Was it a baby shower?

Speaker 3 (27:30):
What do you mean a baby party? It wasn't an
album listening session. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
It was a family gathering?

Speaker 5 (27:36):
That's unhinged ways to get on the microphone and start
ranting about your ops.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
It's unhinged that someone recorded you and sent it to
the blog.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
Well, of course.

Speaker 5 (27:45):
Once you start seeing where somebody going with it, run
that camera. So in his whatever he got going on,
he talks about him allegedly putting or helping Kendrick in
his career and him.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Oh, he did say he put Kendrick on his first tour.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
Context, context, context, context.

Speaker 5 (28:06):
He took J-Rock on tour, and at that time, Kendrick
was J-Rock's hype man.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
But stats, right? Numbers.

Speaker 5 (28:12):
He wasn't doing full music yet. He was trying to
come up. Good Kid Mad City wasn't even out. That
wasn't even a thing. So just for context. Well, his
issue is that since all of that happened, he's done things.
Primarily him doing a record 100 with Drake and bringing
Drake out to Compton.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
In that record, Drake is taking shots at Kendrick. But
that's neither here nor there. Accountability. That's one thing. Then,
he names his, he names a company Prolific.

Speaker 5 (28:39):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Right? He kind of fuddy-duddies the relationship with him and Nipsey. Right.
And Black Sam, obviously, that's his brother.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (28:46):
He's like, yo, I think, I believe Black Sam did clear,
or they stated, cleared a record, a verse four game.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
But, There's something in his behavior.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
You left off the fact that his mans, Wack 100,
has had shit to say about both people.

Speaker 5 (29:04):
And he never checked it or said, yo, I spoke
to him about it. It just kind of went. Kendrick,
who's close to Nip and his fam, he feel a way, right?
Rob Markman, I don't know, Kendrick has not said a word.
Rob Markman, Everybody got something to say about Kendrick. You

(29:24):
notice he just do his art, right? Because he's a
prolific artist, so he does his thing intentionally. He has
kids and a wife. He does family shit. and when
it's time for him to come back outside but they
give him a reason and then as soon as he
jump on it oh he doing too much but look

(29:45):
what's been going on he.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
Games album he did a whole album and on this
shit he just he's.

Speaker 5 (29:50):
Kind of like I'm taking shots at Kendrick I'm not
but then he gets on the thing and said yo
I ain't heard from him he won't call me So
now on Twitter, I see people like, yo, Kendrick, just
call this nigga.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
So he can stop.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
You know what this reminds me of, honestly?

Speaker 5 (30:05):
And we saw the verses, right? Verses, I thought he
was good. He drank the Don Julio. He did the
performative shit. I'm like, all right, game in his bag.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
The game and Kendrick reminds me very much of Ray
Daniels and Charlamagne. Hear me out.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
That is funny.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Hear me out.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
That is funny. Hear me out. Right when I got it.
Hear me out.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
Fuck.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Hear me out.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Ray Daniels clearly has stated himself that he wants to
be on Black Effect.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
And yet, he continues to criticize and say things and
poke jabs at Charlamagne.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
Who is a master petty.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
Who is very petty and who hears everything.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
He knows exactly what's happening.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
He knows and hears everything. Even if you put it
behind a goddamn paywall, he going to hear about it.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
I'm going to find out.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
And so for me, it's the same thing. You can't
sit here and align yourself or say things in opposition
of somebody that you essentially want to work with or
want a job from.

Speaker 4 (31:04):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Pick your battles wisely.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
You know, it's unnecessary.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Pick it wisely.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
And so for me to hear Jay-Z on, complain about
him not being able to have the opportunity to work
with or align with Kendrick, who he feels like he's old.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
He's done it. He's worked with him.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
It reminds me of just like, again, baby, you can't
sit here and talk shit. It reminds me also of
Colin Kaepernick.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
Oh, man.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
You can't go against the NFL and then want to
get rehired by them in the same breath.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Make it make sense. Where you at with it?

Speaker 5 (31:41):
So there was a tweet that somebody put out that
talking about game and Kendrick. And he said, game, this
is be like I gotta dot on any nigga cruisin'
in a GNX.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
I got love for bro and I never diss him.
Y'all a sniffin' meth.

Speaker 5 (31:55):
If the boogeyman won't smoke, he gonna end up next.
But dot my little nigga, I fuck with him. I
break your neck. Fuck Kendrick Lamar. It's like, you can't decide,
do you like this nigga or do you not like
this nigga? Why do you keep going back and forth
about how you want to deal with this man?

Speaker 3 (32:10):
Facts. But I don't know what's left of this.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
A-King has a job, clearly, with the Black Effect Network.
He has to go and take it to a black hole.
But we have some other things to talk about.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Now you dropped this in the chat and I said
on Tuesday's episode we would talk about it. So can
you tell me what's up with Elon calling for Derek
Chauvin's release?

Speaker 3 (32:34):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 5 (32:35):
So Elon has been doing this for a while now.
It just most recently picked up more traction in the news.
But he's been saying things about Derek Chauvin and the
fact that it's a travesty of justice that he was
convicted and that uh reports have shown that george floyd
died from fentanyl and it wasn't the kneeling on the
neck so why is this man being railroaded and the

(32:57):
woke agenda has forced this man to be imprisoned and
lose his livelihood so he's been saying all this stuff
for a while um but recently as derrick chauvin has
continued to try to get a new trial and those
uh efforts continue to be rejected for i think this
is the third time that he got rejected for a
new trial. But yeah, Elon is basically continuing his campaign

(33:20):
of saying that Derek Chauvin should not be in jail
and that he didn't, basically, I didn't do nothing wrong.
So why is a nigga in jail?

Speaker 2 (33:27):
This goes back to the, not only a distraction, but like, Elon,
why did you wake up one morning and.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Cared about this, of all things?

Speaker 3 (33:36):
You don't know that.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Like, a black man is dead. You do not know
this white man.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
At all.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
What makes you wake up one day and say, I
think this man that I have no ties to should
be released from fucking prison.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
But that's the performative shit that they're on right now.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
It's so performative.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
That's what they're on right now.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Oh my fucking goodness.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
Everything is for political reasons.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
All of this shit is just to galvanize the base
of Republican conservative voters to come out and vote. Because also,
I honestly think the real strategy of it is that
Usually when the voter turnout is high, Democrats win. That's
kind of the formula, right? If enough people vote, more

(34:20):
people have liberal views than have conservative views when it
comes to the most, when people are going to vote.
And so if you get more people that come out,
that's how Joe Biden won because the turnout was crazy.
And even though it was close enough, but the amount
of people that come out can offset it. So I'll
be feeling like all of this shit, the Enos Cancer,

(34:41):
the Elon, the Royce White, All of this shit is
just to make the boogeyman be present so that people
can be like, oh, we can't have that. So I
got to go vote for the people that's going to
make sure that thing that's scary don't happen.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
Right.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Which is crazy. You're right. They're making this a boogeyman.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (35:01):
They need someone to hate. There's always got to be
somebody to hate for them to be excited to do something.
They don't want to offer anything. They just want to
stop shit.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
I hate that.

Speaker 5 (35:10):
And it's like, all right, bro, if that's what you
think is going to be your winning strategy for the next...
however knows how long, because none of these issues are
going anywhere. It's going to be gay people, it's going
to be trans people, it's going to be cops kill people.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Derek Chauvin being in prison is not a problem.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
It needs to be solved.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Why are we not focused on the real problem?

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Like the defunding of organizations that are absolutely necessary and needed,
like regulation of our food, like the CDC. Why are
we not focused on the rent prices that are going up?
The gas prices, because Iran said.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
We ain't doing it. We ain't.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
Y'all better figure it out.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
Yeah. The way.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Now, this is about to be a first world problem
that I'm about to complain about. Oh, here we go.
But the way.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Think I'm about to travel for my birthday.

Speaker 4 (36:02):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Because these flights don't even make sense.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
It's getting stupid. Like, you know how, like.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
And this might be just me being even just within
the last five years. You know how, like, And let
me make it something that you might understand.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
You know when there's a pair of sneakers that you
got for a certain price?

Speaker 3 (36:20):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
And you see them maybe in a specialty store, and
you're like, I got these sneakers for $ 89.

Speaker 6 (36:27):
99.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
What do you mean? $ 450. $ 450.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
That's exactly how I feel about Air Force Ones.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
You feel me?

Speaker 5 (36:35):
The first pair of Air Force Ones I got was
like 69 bucks, 70 bucks.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
I'm not paying 130. 130 for no regular ass Air
Force Ones. I'm not doing it.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
So I love Aruba.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
I heard it's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
I used to, nigga, I went to Aruba one year,
50,000 points.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Damn.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
And like less than $ 100 in taxes.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
Right.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Because it's international. I've booked flights there for $ 300. Maybe
the most, $ 500. Very affordable, though. The cost to go
to Aruba right now is $ 1, 400. Just the flight. Then
there's all the other things, you know? And so part
of me is looking at these flight prices. And I'm

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just like....

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Can I just wait for the bubble to burst? Like
in real estate. Like there's no way that these prices
are sustainable for the people that not only have to travel.
And that is where my empathy then kicks in. I'm
looking for somewhere to celebrate my birthday, right?

Speaker 6 (37:38):
Right.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
I'm thinking of the people that have to travel for funerals,
that have to travel to make family, like to go
and see family that.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
They haven't seen in years.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
I'm looking at these prices for people that like literally
have no other choice but to get on a plane
and pay whatever price that it is because they have
to go whatever it be for, right? And so in
my leisure, I'm not, but my heartstrings are being pulled

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at the people that work really, really fucking hard, may
not be getting paid the money that they're supposed to
be getting paid for their roles in living in a
place that is well above what the prices should be
for where they live at and then also have to
take these goddamn flights.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Well, that's why it's hard for me.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
Like, these are the real problems.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
These are the actual problems.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
These are the health care.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Like, and even I can't.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
I don't remember who was asked it, but they were
just asked, like, if there could be Medicare for all,
would you approve of it or something like that?

Speaker 3 (38:46):
Oh, Hakeem Jeffries.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
Hakeem Jeffries.

Speaker 5 (38:49):
Took his ass right on TV and was like, that's
not a platform that I support.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
Like, oh.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
You don't care that people just are able to have
affordable health care? Or the insurance that allows them to
sustain their health or be healthy or get the checkups.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
Or like my friend, fucking be able to afford her
cancer medication.

Speaker 5 (39:08):
Or not be afraid or not try to do something
that is more dangerous because they're afraid to even go
to the hospital because of what it might cost. His
excuse was, well, we can find another way other than
Medicare for all.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
I just don't understand why even that Hakeem Jeffries just
throwing that conversation.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
Like, yeah, nope, not a real problem, but.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Let's talk about the word gay. Let's get that out
of here. Let's talk about trans and sports. Let's talk
about old girl in Florida. Me taking my kids to
drag shows. There are other things.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
Make the main thing the main thing.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
We have too many main things for us to be
fighting for different social beliefs and views and, like, and yes,
trans rights matter.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
No, absolutely. Gay rights matter.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
Black community and how we're seen in the healthcare and
also the programs that are given to our communities matter.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
But, baby, let's stay... with the important parts.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
The things that have a super strong impact on how
we are actually about to fucking live.

Speaker 5 (40:17):
Yeah, I mean, there's a, I think America is at
a place where, like, America needs the oxygen mask.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
You know what else I realized that I'm not hearing enough?
But I'm hearing a lot of, but I'm not hearing enough?
The unemployment rate. I don't understand how pretty much since
the 2008 crash, right? And what happened with real estate
and the markets and all that and all the jobs
that were lost. We talk about, even during the Obama administration,

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during the Biden administration, the conversations around the unemployment rates
and how high they are and what's happening in terms
of supplemental income for these people. All I hear every
week is the companies that let go of 10%, 90
jobs here, 900 here, 1,700 here.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
We just had a whole airline completely Boom. 17,000 jobs lost.

Speaker 5 (41:10):
Seen the viral video at that Tyson meat plant. They
closed down a whole plant. It was like 18,000 people.
No notice.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
They went to work Monday, came to work Tuesday. It
was no job. They were standing around looking like, what
you mean?

Speaker 1 (41:22):
I don't understand where the conversation is going or why
it's not being had in terms of that, while we're
also simultaneously technically having the conversations of robots taking over jobs.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Like, is it Oochie Wally or is it One Mike?

Speaker 2 (41:38):
I just don't understand how there is no mass concern
of the people who are getting let go of jobs,
of the fact that jobs are not available, of the
fact that AI is running the HR hiring process, of
jobs that are also being posted that do not exist
while we are living in a society we literally cannot afford.

Speaker 5 (41:58):
But that's what I'm saying. America needs an oxygen mask.
There's a lot of issues that need to be tackled. Obviously,
there has to be some order in which they happen.
That's just how the slow nature of politics is and
policy change. But right now, there's some foundational things that
need to be established in the process of fixing.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
Everything that we think is broken.

Speaker 5 (42:21):
And we need to be on message and on code
about fixing those things.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
I'm curious, especially seeing what Mondami is doing in New York.
What does your perfect politician, what are their three main
goals or the three main policies that they seek to
find a solution that actually benefit you, your people, your community?
What three things are you looking for in a politician

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to course correct?

Speaker 3 (42:48):
I think health care has to be one of them.
I agree.

Speaker 5 (42:51):
Because a lot of stuff that is a problem trickles
down from there.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
Because like you said, if you have a job... Tricky
in capitalism.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Tricky. Tricky. Tricky.

Speaker 5 (43:01):
But if you don't have enough money and you can't
get sick because you can't afford to live to go
to that job to make the little bit of money
you're making, and the bills pile up, that becomes a problem.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Back again to these motherfuckers not really being pro-life. No.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
How do you... They're pro-sperm. They're pro egg. They're pro.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
Not they're pro organs.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
Yeah, they might be pro uterus.

Speaker 5 (43:29):
They might be pro the science of conception, but they're
not pro life.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
There's no way they are.

Speaker 5 (43:36):
They don't give a fuck about what happens to you
once you get here. They care about you while you're
in the dick or while you're in the ovary. That's
when they care about you. As soon as you come
out the coochie, they don't give a shit what happens
to you.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
I don't know if you saw the most recent 20v1 of,
I believe it's Jubilee or one of those, but it
is a liberal woman arguing with 20 Christians on pro-life issues.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
The pro-life topic.

Speaker 5 (44:02):
Oh, she probably had a crazy headache when she walked
out of that fucking session.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
When I say she gave all of these examples of abortion, right?

Speaker 6 (44:11):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
One being a 12-year-old gets graped by her father.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
Right.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
Does not want the baby. What do you tell this 12-year-old?

Speaker 2 (44:21):
And the way that these women sat there like fucking
the cult members that they are and was like, well,
God put that baby there.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
Mm-hmm. That would be the excuse for everything.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
She'll be fine. She'll make it.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
She'll make it. She'll be okay.

Speaker 5 (44:34):
She can raise that baby in a loving household and
maybe it will make her better in the long run.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
I don't understand how even we, and when I say
we adults, have zero inkling of care for the lives
of children, the lives of adults, and the fact that
both are impacted with pregnancy. And so to put the
life of a fetus Above the actual life of a

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life that's.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Here already is just never not going to be confusing.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
But especially when we talk about health care, when we
talk about the ways in which the government shows that
they don't give a fuck about whether you live or not.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
They just want to make sure you pay your taxes.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
So you said health care.

Speaker 5 (45:14):
Give me two other policies. It would be health care
is I think is one of the main ones. The
other part is education. We have to figure out. public
schooling in America. It has to be figured out because
everyone can't afford to go to private school.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
What's the problem right now in public schooling for you?

Speaker 5 (45:29):
There's not enough funding. Teachers aren't paid shit. There aren't resources.
They're cutting all the programs.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
You can't do music. You can't do art. You can't
do all of these things in schools because.

Speaker 5 (45:41):
There's not enough money for them. Meanwhile, I don't understand...
I don't know everything about everything. I know in Georgia,
when I drive down 85 and I see the Mega
Millions and the Powerball, on a regular basis, that should
be $.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
500, $ 700 million.

Speaker 5 (45:55):
And that's where they're getting a lot of this money from.
So what are y'all doing with all of this bread?
Because people ain't stopped buying tickets. People are buying more
lottery tickets than ever because everybody's broke and hoping one
day that the lottery can fix them.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
And the way they're reading them cue cards, you're right.
We need to get money back into the schools.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (46:10):
I don't know what's going on, how it's being distributed,
but fixing the education system is a big.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
Part of it.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
And what's the third one?

Speaker 5 (46:17):
And the third one would probably be securing voting rights.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
Securing... Someone who wants to secure....

Speaker 5 (46:27):
Like not falling into this whole voter ID shit that
they're trying to spread with the idea that all the
elections are fake and all this. Doing something to make
sure that people can have access to voting.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
And that people really feel like their vote does matter.
Does matter.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
And it's being counted. And there's transparency in the process.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
And this isn't fugaziness.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
Yeah. There has to be.

Speaker 5 (46:45):
I think those things would impact economics, would impact crime.
If people had good educations and good jobs, there would
probably be less crime. If people were healthy- People would
probably have more time and energy and availability to go
do the things that they want to chase in life,
not doing fuck shit in the street. There's always going
to be crime. But I'm just saying, like, the things

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that would affect, that would make society better are mostly
those things. People being educated, people being healthy, and people
being able to get jobs and have belief in the
system that.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
We have here.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
I'm not mad at that at all. I like those
three things. Welcome back.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
You know who's the head of the Department of Education, right?
Linda McMahon. Yeah, WWE's own.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Not WWE's own.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
Yeah, the wife. It was his wife, right? Yeah, if
it's a man's ex. His ex has no strange wife
expertise in education.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
Was never a teacher.

Speaker 5 (47:34):
Never a teacher, never worked at a school board. So
I don't know what he's talking about, right? Can be
implemented now.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
Yeah. Well, no, no.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
So the question that I asked him was what the,
what policies his perfect politician would seek a solution for.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
Because we talked about all the distractions.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
We talked about, like, the usage of the word gay.
We talked about trans and sports. We're talking about the
drag shows. There's all these distractions, right? But it comes
down to.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
The real, like.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
The meat and potatoes of what fixes the country. Where
do we find solution right now? And what are the
things that are giving us the most problems as a society?
And so those, he listed his three things, but yeah,
I know I'm just throwing this on.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
You right now, but he ate with that.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
No, it's fine. That's consistent. I think we have to
start finding our, uh, our, uh, tribes, our communities. You're
back to that.

Speaker 5 (48:32):
No, the only reason I say that because we can't
be in the, in the macro anymore because everybody's all
over the place.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
With these things. The macro is polluted. So when we
talk about... The country. The country, yeah. When we talk
about business, when we talk about, um, Brand alignment, right?
It's the same thing.

Speaker 5 (48:49):
Who are the people alignment, right? You are not going
to have problematic people in your ecosystem.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
I'm not?

Speaker 3 (48:54):
And I'm talking about outside of... My ecosystem? Y'all in
my ecosystem. Y'all problematic.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
I don't agree with all the shit y'all talk about.

Speaker 5 (49:03):
But you're not going to the farmer's market with a
fucking da-dun-da-dun. You're going to the farmer's market with.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
I'm going tomorrow, by the way.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
See? But I'm saying, your community of people... Rob Markman,
And L-O-M-L is.

Speaker 5 (49:14):
The nigga's making his own motherfucking syrups and shit and oils.

Speaker 3 (49:18):
It's a handful of people. It's not going to be 20,
30 people.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (49:23):
A lot of those people aren't in line with your
day-to-day shit that you do.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
All I know is, what unfortunately happens though, and again,
there's a positive connotation to the word community.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
What community also does, and what you're saying is, also
driving us to be a more individualistic country, which is,
I think, a lot of the problem. We're not macro
with it. We're all very micro with our own personal needs.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
And beliefs and all of the things.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
Right, but that's why my question to him was as
a whole. So you leaned into education, voting rights, and
making sure we don't make it more difficult for people
to actually have say.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
And your first one was?

Speaker 3 (50:06):
Healthcare.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
Healthcare.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
And that is on a macro level what needs to
be done for.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
This country to sustain because, baby, we a laughing stock
to the.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
Rest of these countries out here.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
Like, even the quality of life isn't taken into consideration. Like,
in other countries, you get six weeks paid vacation.

Speaker 3 (50:27):
What is it about health care? Is it because it's privatized?

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Oh, capitalism.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
We talked about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just trying
to think, what is it about the health care conversation?

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Look at all the stocks that went up.

Speaker 5 (50:36):
This country that won't adapt or even consider a free
healthcare scenario.

Speaker 3 (50:41):
It's too much money. It's money. It's got to be
the money. It's too much money being made. And all
these people are bought.

Speaker 5 (50:48):
The doctors are bought by companies to push their medicines.
The politicians are bought to endorse and to create policies
that are more beneficial to a healthcare system. Politicians are
also bought to push the food products that are making

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people sick.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
Let's be very clear. took away funding for food regulation,
and you can't swipe, drive, or go anywhere without seeing
a GLP-1 ad. So fuck the things that we're putting
into our body in terms of food, but stick yourself
to lose weight because we do know that there's a
problem with obesity in this country.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
But instead of regulating what's going into our bodies, they're like, actually,
we could make a drug that helps them lose the weight.

Speaker 5 (51:38):
Michelle Obama was trying to push for exercise and healthy.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
And they said, no, we don't need that.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
Because it costs more money. It's more expensive, too.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
More expensive, quote unquote.

Speaker 5 (51:49):
But what they're really saying, when they say more expensive,
we talked about the semantics of words, right? They'll say
more expensive. It might not be more expensive by costing
more money. It might be more expensive by not making
us as much money as we want to. Because selling
GLP-1s is a product being sold. Giving healthy meals to kids.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
Is a cost.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
And that's the thing. Everybody wants to put a Band-Aid
on this shit.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
It's also why Aldi's is less than Whole Foods.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
And why you're not going to see Whole Foods in
certain neighborhoods.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
They're going to say they can't afford this shit. They
can't afford it. We don't want to put that there.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
They literally put premium prices on, yeah, it's just nuts.

Speaker 5 (52:28):
And they'll do all that while telling you it makes
more sense this way.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
Like, they'll try to sell you that.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
It makes sense to have the FDA.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
We don't need the FDA. Like you said, meanwhile, in Europe,
there's a bunch of shit.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
We don't need the CDC. We don't need the CDC.
Yet niggas just got a goddamn rat thing and was
stuck out there in the middle of the ocean, and
they brought them niggas back to the country.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
Back to the country.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
Make it make sense.

Speaker 5 (52:48):
You don't need to control diseases. You don't need to
check the food to make sure the food is good.
In Europe, they don't play that shit.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
No, it's why when you go overseas, a lot of
times the things that y'all, that you enjoy eating here
in America, you literally cannot purchase.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
Well, because of the ingredients, right? Yeah. The red dyes,
all the stuff. What happened when we had FIFA here?

Speaker 1 (53:07):
Oh, they were bringing in.

Speaker 5 (53:07):
Their own foods. But in Atlanta, they was going after
the ranch. Dressing because they can't get it out there.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
They can't get it because it's some bullshit. By the way,
ranch is nasty. No, it's not. I don't give a
fuck what nobody says. Ranch is delicious.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
Blue cheese over ranch.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
No. All day, every day. I'm not a blue cheese hater,
but you ranch haters are weird.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
Ranch is not good.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
Ranch is delicious.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
It's like milk with pepper in it.

Speaker 3 (53:28):
It's confusing. No, no, no. That's nigger ranch. Real ranch
is supposed to have herbs and seasoning.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Well, it don't.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
It's supposed to be delicious.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
It's not.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
It is fantastic.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
It is not. You make your own ranch?

Speaker 3 (53:41):
Yeah, I made my own ranch.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
How do you make it?

Speaker 5 (53:43):
You get some dill, tarragon, pepper definitely. Targaryen. Targaryen spices.
You get some, you can do basil, whatever herbs you
just like.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (53:57):
Get that shit. Get some, you can do sour cream, mayo,
maybe a little, huh? Basil's usually going to be mayo.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
Mayo?

Speaker 4 (54:07):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
You got to whip it up. I thought it looked
like buttermilk. Yeah, some people do egg whites. You can
do olive oil if you want to.

Speaker 5 (54:16):
If you got like truffle olive oil or something nice
that you want to get in there to make it up.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
But yeah, whip that thing up.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
Everything you're adding does not make it ranch. Nigga, truffle
does not make the shit ranch. I'm saying ranch is nasty.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
Is it an intentional ranch or just a special dip? Pause.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
No, he'd just get the ranch packets.

Speaker 4 (54:30):
Both.

Speaker 5 (54:30):
I mean, I've made ranch dressing before, but even if
you can't get Hidden Valley and think that's going to
be the epitome of ranch dressing.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
But if you go to one of the bougie... what's
my name, Paul Newman or one of these white men.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
They got ranch season.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
No, they'll have a whole, a bougie ranch. It's pre-made,
ready for you to rock and roll right now.

Speaker 5 (54:49):
But it's not going to taste like your regular ass, like, oh,
this is the ranch at Shoney's.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
Like, nah, they're not, nah.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
You just aged yourself. Shoney's, there's no way that exists anymore.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
I bet if you go out to the country, there's
a Shoney's somewhere. Dang.

Speaker 5 (55:01):
If you go out to some of these bumblefuck towns,
I bet you find you a Shoney's. You probably find
you a Ponderosa. You probably find you a motherfucking.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
Well, I'm glad that, by the way, without your ignorance,
we made this a kind of very thoughtful episode.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
How did you not.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
Have the whole name of the show? You isolate me
with ignorance. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
Listen, that first 10 minutes was tricky.

Speaker 6 (55:24):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (55:24):
We went through some mucky waters.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
I don't know about that.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
It was tricky.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
We went through some dirty waters. It was tricky.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Anyways, guys, hope you enjoyed this bonus episode. We will
see y'all muddy fuckies next week.

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Thank y'all so much for tuning in, baby. Another episode.

Speaker 6 (55:40):
Bonus!

Speaker 1 (55:41):
Selective ignorance. See y'all pussy assholes next week.

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Thanks for tuning in to Selective Ignorance with Mandy B.
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Rodriguez, that's me, and Aaron A.

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