Ep. 73 | Parasites, Protected Species & Politics As Usual Feat. Antoinette - Selective Ignorance with Mandii B

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance. However,

(00:03):
before we get to this week's episode, I want to
remind you guys to purchase my book No Holds Barred,
a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power. So feel
free to go to your local bookstores preferably queer owned,
black owned, or woman owned to support them. But also
just click the button on Amazon, Barnes and Nobles, or

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wherever you read your books.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Again.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
That is No Holds Barred, a dual manifesto of sexual
exploration and power, written by yours truly and my co
host of the Decisions Decisions podcasts, Weezy.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Make sure y'all get that. Now let's get to this
week's episode.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
This is Mandy B.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Welcome to Selective Ignorance, a production of The Black Effect
Podcast Network and iHeartRadio.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yea yea yea yea yea yea yeah,
yea yeah yeah yo.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
It's your girl, Mandy B here with Selective Ignorance. And
you already know we are getting into all of the mess.
I am gonna go ahead and drop a spoiler alert
at the top.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
We are talking the Odyssey.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Also, can it be a spoiled alert if it was
written like five hundred years ago. Probably not, but we're
talking about the movie, so again, make sure you speed
through that.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Then we are joined by a really good friend of
mine who is gonna get a double down or take
it back.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
We're talking to the hypocrisy of people who chose to
go to the jay Z concert who also ignored the
fact that he partnered with Target. Oh yeah, we're getting
into all of the selective ignorance there, as well as
our j Cole concert recap before we hop right into This.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Is America, where we talk about the.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Fact that we can't eat shit, what's happening with the
parasite sweeping our country, as well as is the world
coming to an end? We're talking NYC floods, China landslides,
Canada wildfires, California's main water break, and the sinkhole in Baltimore.
This is not a sports podcast. When we were talking
Toronto tempo coach Sandy who got suspended after finding a

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new a new way to call a black person a nigga?

Speaker 3 (02:02):
What did she say that got her suspended?

Speaker 1 (02:04):
We're getting into it and then in celebrities say the
darnest things bick Mensa says people perceive women in hip
hop differently than their male counterparts.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
And boy does he get into it.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Then Comb's twins launch a clothing line while praising their father.
Should children ever have to answer to their parents' behaviors?
And how do we view our parents differently when we
become adults. Last, but not least, DJ Webster shares why
Cassie unfollowed him following a character letter he chose to

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write in Diddy's defense.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
If you know both parties, should you step.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
In and defend either party in their wrongdoing? Boy, it's
gonna get tricky here.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
It's selected ignorance, and we get right into it.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Before we get started.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
Job.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
I am not joined by any of my super producers
this week Journalism Jason, we're recording this on a Sunday.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
If you having family duty.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Had a king.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
His flight got canceled, so he is still in New York,
but he will be back next week and so Friday,
y'all can hear him talk about attending fanatics. I am joined, however,
by my king of headline Jason.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
Jolly Pod blessing all the yeah niggas, What up?

Speaker 6 (03:33):
What up?

Speaker 2 (03:33):
What up? What up?

Speaker 6 (03:34):
What up the south side bit? We had us a
little weekend.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
We did have a little weekend.

Speaker 6 (03:39):
What do you know about my passions?

Speaker 3 (03:41):
Oh, you know about my pay period? Well, I guess
we could start there.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Because I also had one of the best seats down
for the weekend, she decided to plan this strip to Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
No, it will because the.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Last couple of times I've been in New York we
be having a squeeze. It don't really work right, it
don't really work.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
So, y'all, I am joined by one half or around
the way Curls, one third of Can't Afford Therapy and
former unofficial one.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Third of see the thing is y'all.

Speaker 7 (04:13):
We got Antennette in the building, happy to be here.
I didn't plan for this weekend to be as hectic
as it was.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
But it was lovely. Wasn't wonderful?

Speaker 3 (04:22):
I am type A.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
It was, Yes, I can't hope it. We fit a lot,
and we did. It felt like I was here from
much longer than I was. But you know what, we
did fit in a nap. It was supposed to be longer.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
It was supposed to be longer.

Speaker 5 (04:36):
So I got a question though, since this was a
playing trip because I just saw this clip on Instagram
yesterday where the girl introduces herself on It's a girl's trip,
I guess, or two gros on a trip, and one
girl is like, yeah, my name is such and such
and I plan this dinner and I plan this, and
the other girl is trying to say, yeah, my name
is such and such and basically I didn't do shit
but show up to this motherfucker and let it be

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to be fair.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
Antnet is a as I am.

Speaker 6 (05:01):
Okay, oh yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
So normally she is the one that is catering, hosting,
making plans, doing reservations, all the things.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
She's more.

Speaker 7 (05:09):
But I think I out type, well, you're your bossier
than me. Well, I was coming to your city, right, well,
this is your city.

Speaker 6 (05:17):
Now let her.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
City never Brooklyn, baby, it was the Bronx b And
then I got money and went to a Long Island city,
which is Queen's.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
I never vka. Okay, don't sleep on Brooklyn.

Speaker 7 (05:37):
But what I will say is when I'm around you,
even when we went just on vacation, you just take
over and I and that's the part where I'm like,
I'm gonna just submit to this because there's no, there's
no pushing back against you.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Wow, you should.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
You should to be a bar to be fair for Mexico.
The itinerary was laid out and I went with her
and my sister.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Here's what we're doing every day. She didn't know what
we were doing until she got here. I didn't send
you that itinerary. Really, I was just like.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
That about that you take over.

Speaker 7 (06:09):
Even when you come to New York and it's like, bitch,
I live here too, people be like, Okay, well we're
gonna be here, We're gonna do this. I have a
reservation here. Okay, what time are you off? Okay, meet
me here. Boom, And it's like.

Speaker 5 (06:20):
Even without knowing answering that real, well, I feel like
she's right because because at my birthday, so I had,
I turned forty five.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Oh happy birthday.

Speaker 6 (06:32):
You're a taurust.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
You're you're a late April.

Speaker 5 (06:35):
Yeah, April thirtieth. Yeah, you fuck with the bull, get
the horns. So we're playing at my birthday part. We
having a game night and we're trying to play family fud.

Speaker 6 (06:44):
When I tell you this, nigga was so irate.

Speaker 5 (06:48):
Everybody was because it's a room full of my friends
but I have a lot of worlds. So everybody was
trying to like tee each other and understand who's who
and how they know me, et cetera.

Speaker 6 (06:57):
Set So we're trying to start the game. Everybody producing
him stuff.

Speaker 5 (07:00):
This nigga was not trying to hear that ship at all.
When we're gonna pay okay, okay, off enough, let's play
the game already.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Why you are? It's cool?

Speaker 3 (07:11):
So I removed myself.

Speaker 6 (07:12):
She didn't remove herself. She did. I'm overstimulated.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
I was over stimulated.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Hold on, and we're gonna talk about my overstimulation watching
the Odyssey.

Speaker 7 (07:20):
This is a real thing and my divergence of it all.
You're the a mic everywhere you go. You take that
a mic energy everywhere. I just want you to know that.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yeah, all right, I've walked into a room and Ben demure.

Speaker 6 (07:35):
Why the bathroom the room.

Speaker 7 (07:39):
And my man the dress just put her in her
b mic player and a.

Speaker 6 (07:43):
King has been making that point a lot lately.

Speaker 5 (07:45):
There's a different Mandy energy. There's a different very different
many energy, like the transition into like demureeness and my
man and.

Speaker 6 (07:59):
O L l O and.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, she said later were about to do this. Okay,
I'm talk vitamins. Vitamins. I was supposed to take you
know about chances. We just talking about chances.

Speaker 6 (08:15):
That was all the day to kids.

Speaker 5 (08:17):
Voice is gone and she turns into like the fairy pod.

Speaker 8 (08:20):
I love it for you, off of me me.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Anyways, before we get uh, it's how do we want
to do this?

Speaker 3 (08:31):
You know what, Let's do our little ketchup of what
we did this week.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
So Friday, we'll start with Friday night, then we'll go
to last night, then we'll go to what you did
last weekend. I know what you did last week. Yeah,
we're gonna do a little double down and take it back.
But let's start with Friday. So Friday, we had the
pleasure of going to the fall off tour co World
co World here at the State Farm Arena. This was

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an that's first time seeing who never okay.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Never saw coldly impressed.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
I can't I won't hold you.

Speaker 7 (09:06):
I was like, because I came fresh off the whole
right and I'm like, listen, that man was up there,
no backtrack, breath control.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
I was like, he was doing his thing.

Speaker 7 (09:15):
I don't have a whole lot of twer now literally right,
don't bring me, no, bullshit.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
I was impressed.

Speaker 7 (09:22):
Yeah, I said, I understand every word this man is saying,
good job by him.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
What was the text message that you sent to the
group chat? So were sleeping on? Cool? Okay?

Speaker 5 (09:32):
I was going to ask you what level of col
them were you at before this show?

Speaker 2 (09:36):
I wasn't. I mean, she knew like three songs.

Speaker 6 (09:39):
You knew the radio hits, you knew workout, I knew,
I knew.

Speaker 7 (09:45):
The stuff there. There was a record that I really
sat with his, but he didn't. He didn't play much
off of that.

Speaker 6 (09:51):
For your eyes only or maybe KO.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Talk about how he was sitting on the roof. No,
I don't.

Speaker 7 (09:59):
Yeah, unfortunately drive okay, Yeah, But then for some reason
Cole just was like I knew.

Speaker 5 (10:04):
I was like, oh you is kd I think, no,
get Dick is force his drive to oh damn bangers
on their bangers.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Listen, something happened where I just I don't know. He
just wasn't.

Speaker 7 (10:19):
I just am shut and I and I'm definitely his
his demo And I don't get why, but I'm gonna go.
I'll be late. I'll go back and said Cole for
a moment. But I was thoroughly impressed.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
A really really really good show. Of course, haters, I
think you said it. And one of my other homegirls
was like, oh not the gn X stage set, because
he had.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
The call me that.

Speaker 7 (10:50):
You know, it wasn't hate, it was more like I
didn't even say like. I was like, it's interesting that
he still did that, because because I figured people would
be like, oh, he's trying to be like Hendry, but
he's like, fuck it, this is my thing.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
I mean, the the handa civic was a part of
the role out the country.

Speaker 5 (11:07):
Before that, like him talking about you know, living in
Queens and being in that civic. He told those stories before.
That's why I didn't I didn't think. I didn't take
it as a bite, but it was the first thing
I realized. I was like, oh, we're doing this.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Huh, I ain't gonna lie night too. Did you know
did the person get to come up on stage or
did the Atlanta bitch absolutely ruin it for anyone going
on stage again?

Speaker 3 (11:29):
Because basically, poor girl, why I ain't upset? Hold on,
this is how upset I was.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
So this black woman, bless her heart, all her friends
pointing at her, hyping her up, she's in our section,
she gets called down and y'all in all my in
all my love for black women, I will say I
looked three rolls down.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
I don't give a.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Fuck knew all the words.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
But there was a white boy two rolls down.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
When I tell you that white boy knew everything I
said I would in Atlanta, I wouldn't have been mad
if that white boy went on stage because I looked
at him.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
He knew every word. Bro, that black girl went.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Up and just she she took the comments off, she
posted it. Somehow it came across my algorithm. She had
to disable them.

Speaker 5 (12:28):
Why So to that point about the white boy who
knew all the words, like, so, I'm sitting in the
section that's like right behind not that it was like
the sound man the riser, and that was that section
right there. So I'm looking straight on the whole thing
and white boy and his girl sitting next to me,

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And as soon as she started walking down, he had
said two words to me.

Speaker 6 (12:51):
The whole time he leans over. He tasked me. He says, hey, bro,
what you think? And I'm like, I.

Speaker 5 (13:00):
Couldn't tell this white mans. I didn't believe in this
black woman so I said, no, she's gonna be good.

Speaker 6 (13:04):
She comfortable asked me.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
The question why you did it?

Speaker 6 (13:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (13:11):
So okay.

Speaker 5 (13:12):
So she gets up there, and even the way Cole
was talking to her on stage, I can see that
he was trying to get some type of visual communication
that she actually knew that he was giving her a
little bit of bum bail before it even got.

Speaker 7 (13:25):
Started, and as giving her that mic, Yeah yeah, I
was like, nice, audible god.

Speaker 5 (13:35):
But you know the thing is that taught me that
sometimes being a good friend could mean you're being a
bad person. Because her friends had no business, I don't
give a what the holiday they was celebrating.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Them too. I don't have the right behind him.

Speaker 6 (13:57):
Especially that song.

Speaker 5 (13:59):
I'm not saying that you can't no words, but that
wasn't like a hit single. That was one of that
was a very talked about verse that people love. But
that was Benny the Butcher song. But that was even
cold songs.

Speaker 6 (14:09):
So like, if you don't really listen to this song
like that, you got no business?

Speaker 3 (14:13):
She had no business. She had no business.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Maybe she got nervous, y'all.

Speaker 5 (14:19):
That I do not give a fuck she ruined it, y'all.

Speaker 6 (14:26):
If y'all didn't like.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
If y'all hate the spotlight rendition of someone in the
audience rapping along, he ain't bring y'all motherfucker's on stage
no more because y'all fucked up. I am glad I
got my selfie. You didn't get yourself I got my
selfie with cold okay, okay, so but it wasn't because
we did find it. Let me what happened. So uh uh,

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you know, I get queen treatment. I stay spoiled. So
we had all access passes and it was a little
stick keys that you put on your clothes. So the
show ends, mind you, I'm looking at the set list,
the whole show. I know what's coming on because I
had to go get my merch.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
I know what's coming on.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
So I'm like, okay, this is the second to last song.
Let's head backstage before it gets chaotic. So we were
walking real fast. We walked real fast to go backstage.
We just walking, walking, walking, walking walk, and she.

Speaker 7 (15:20):
Was doing the Olympic fast wak my legs, my leg.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
Y'all.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
So we get to where we got to get checked
for our passes.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
I look down, my.

Speaker 7 (15:35):
All, No, that's not what happened is she she gets
to the spot where's supposed to go backstage, and then
she real real confidence.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
What's that?

Speaker 2 (15:46):
She just knew that she was well leg It was
so funny. And then I looked at security for life
looking at her like bitch, why am I?

Speaker 7 (15:56):
She goes, She's like looking at it that like hello queen,
and she let she goes.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
She turned into a little kid.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
She was because I was just straught.

Speaker 7 (16:10):
She's looking in the ground with her flashlights, people looking
like girl, just you don't have it.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
You don't have.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Do you think you're going You're not going back here?

Speaker 9 (16:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Yeah, yeah, sepside, don't mind you.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
I'm looking but and I'm clearly just franchi because I'm like, bro,
we just walked all the way from the rise and
there's no way somebody picked up all access past.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
We wasn't it and we wasn't gonna get it. So
I was like fuck. Luckily, my good sister worked really
hard on Friday.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Luckily, my good.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Sister not really a cold fan. Luckily, my good sister.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
That is your favorite human. Take this past and go ahead.

Speaker 6 (16:48):
I don't get back.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
You ain't far, And if you was far, I'd have
been like wait man, she was like walk, I could
walk home.

Speaker 6 (16:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
So went backstage, talked to to Johnny from Earth Gang.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
Bazz Night Train, ran into the whole crew and then
they run out of bottles.

Speaker 6 (17:08):
Second backstage.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
It be happening. It be happening.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
And so I was like, and mind you, Dreamville is
way different than bow Wow, way different than be to Q,
way different than way different than how these other people party.
So it's real wholesome. They're like boz is rapping with
some producer. They got some music playing. It's real wholesome, right.

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So I was like, okay, well, me and me and
me and fucking Johnny are literally talking about our favorite
places to eat in lant And I was like, oh,
this is giving.

Speaker 6 (17:44):
Reallesome regular rapper talking way.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
I was like, there ain't no stripper bitches. I'm like, okay,
time to go.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
So I leave to walk out, I say I say
by to uh uh the bodyguard.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
As I'm walking out, I.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
See Cole and I'm like, oh my god, he's right there.
This is great now, mind you, I've seen him about.
I've been to all his contents when all the dream
bills and all the things, and so I say aboud
it was bodyguard, but he's talking to a group of
people and just standing on the wall outside of his room.
So I was like, fuck, so that's the bodyguard. I
was like, you think you could tap them so I

(18:22):
could get a selfie because I only have a selfie
with him or a picture with him in Vegas in
like twenty sixteen.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Damn, that's the only other picture I had with him.
A bitch was fat. Didn't really like how I look hair, help,
I wasn't.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
You didn't like how you looked at it. I didn't
like how to look.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
But this is also him before the dress, like yeah,
like cold, this is early on. I gotta find the
picture on my phone. So I'm like, man, I ain't
got no updated picture with me and my king. So
the bodyguard is like.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
Eh, tricky right now, it's you know. So I was like, okay,
I understand. So I go to walk to leave, and
Cole looks up and.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Recognizes the queen. So literally stops talking to the people
he's talking to.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Listen there, what happened every time?

Speaker 3 (19:18):
No, So he literally looks up, breaks the combo and
approaches me to embrace me with a hug.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Oh my god, my king knows I am, which he
does because that this has happened.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Like we met.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
Whoa not too much.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
I mean, I didn't say Hidermaine.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
He didn't have to say hey, Mandy. He we locked
eyes and he stopped talking.

Speaker 7 (19:43):
And said, Kate, that's not your favorite.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
With my fa.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
So, as a fan who never knows what to say
to him, I'm so proud of you.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
That was such a great show.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Been seeing you for.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Along, just so just it was so great. I never
know what to say to him. I would just tell
him how great it is. It was so great.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
I said, if you don't mind, can I get a selfie?

Speaker 1 (20:09):
He was like, yeah, man, yeah, of course. So we
take the selfie and then Knights made Walk Home, Go Home. Nonetheless,
if you haven't go check out the tour.

Speaker 6 (20:19):
Great. He made a movie.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
It's great.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
And I don't even know did Night to have any
did he bring anyone out? I was shocked that I
didn't see twenty one black like so far he hasn't
brought out any features.

Speaker 5 (20:29):
I for sure thought we were going to get twenty
one on the line. Definitely, I didn't really expect future.

Speaker 6 (20:34):
I didn't expect like a couple of people. I thought
for a lot.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Oh, I don't think he did pretty little Fears, but
but if black were there, we would have got pretty years.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
I was just shocked that.

Speaker 6 (20:44):
We didn't get any anybody anything. I was interesting. I
kind of liked it.

Speaker 7 (20:48):
Somebody that just saw I was just like, it's kind
of nice that he held this stage down on his
own and the crowd.

Speaker 6 (20:57):
Yeah, the peoples.

Speaker 7 (20:58):
I didn't realize how I spent every word, every ye
he had, well, everyone except the bitch that went on stage.

Speaker 6 (21:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
But poor girl, poor young lady, that poor girl who
embarrassed her us as Dreamer.

Speaker 5 (21:14):
Yeah, she was up there now, she was up there faking.
She was up there trying Cheyenne Brian and she that
was crazy.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Nonetheless, shout out to call, Shout out to Dreamville, shout
out to Icon, Shout out to everybody that put that
shit on.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
I loved it.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Just shout out to everybody. I'm just glad I got
to experience it, and I'm glad that, uh, you know,
State Farm didn't piss me off. All right, So last
night we decided, uh we did an escape room, followed
by the beltline, followed by lunch followed by a short
nap before we ate, and then went to the movies.

(21:52):
Y'all with our old asses. We hit a ten twenty
five p m screening of the Odyssey in seventy milimeters.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
Three hour movie two two hours three minutes.

Speaker 6 (22:02):
Yeah, y'all was putting in work. Hold on my ass.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
And let me tell you, for those of y'all who
normally like prepare yourselves for commercials, there was actually.

Speaker 6 (22:11):
Not a commercial commercial. There was trail. Are they not commercials?
I mean commercials.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
They're commercials for movies.

Speaker 6 (22:19):
Seven commercial for movies, their trailers.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
But their commercials, right, I love you, yes.

Speaker 6 (22:24):
But no one calls them movie oh my, the movie commercials.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
Anyways, there's none of that for the Odyssey.

Speaker 6 (22:30):
Oh really. They just got right too, right straight to it.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
But also started the movie nine minutes late, and I said,
they have one more minute before I go see a
manager because it was.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Ten twenty so they were waiting for people to get there.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
Sorry, Atlanta, beyond time?

Speaker 6 (22:44):
What am I gonna hold you? Though?

Speaker 5 (22:45):
Nine minutes ain't so bad because nowadays the average amount
of trailers in twenty four minutes, so.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
It showed up as that and so they came late,
and then you got.

Speaker 6 (22:55):
To watch Nicole Kidman do her fucking Hollywood ship like the.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
I love Nicole Kidman telling us to be quiet.

Speaker 7 (23:06):
Let me without the cart her because I listen speaking
of selective ignorance.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
The way we had to check two groups of people.
She said, excuse me.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Can you please be quiet? I let him cook for
a while.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
You did so, she checked the people. She checked the
people in front of us. Then these motherfucker's next to me.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
I just did.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Became late, bro thirty minutes late.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
I didn't want to sit there.

Speaker 7 (23:31):
And then you just see phones. This one on her
phone too because she got a text. Bay, I saw
the hurts.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
I was like, girl, well right again.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Well and then I watched movies a certain way. Oh yeah,
so so the same way.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
The same way.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
She tried to sign me at the concert too. She
was like, girl, just enjoy the concert. Stop looking at
the set list.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Well, I didn't say all that you did too much?
You did.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
You said it a different She's like, girl, get out
the setlist, just enjoy the music. She did the same
thing for me with the movie. So we were listening.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
To the JBP.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
JBP said there was no CGI.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Well that's misinformation because as we're watching, we're like, bitch.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Psyclops came on and I said.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Know that way they filmed that was different. It wasn't.
I don't know how they did it.

Speaker 7 (24:21):
Like the guy, they did it in a certain kind
of way where like they filmed them separately and they
build it and then they like the way that they
filmed it. You know how people are on the beach
and they make somebody look like a giant.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
That's how they filmed that.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
Well, that one, but that was the part where as
we're watching this, we're.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Like, there's definitely there's their CGI. So you know what
I do?

Speaker 3 (24:40):
I text my actual husband chat GPT. I said, hey,
in the Christopher Nolan film, is there No? Is there CGI?

Speaker 1 (24:49):
I don't try to take back And they literally said
that it was used, and so the people saying that
it wasn't are misinformed.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
It was used.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
But did his best with shooting the film as much
as he could.

Speaker 6 (25:03):
Yeah, a lot of practical stuff, yes.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
And he did it on that seventy millimeter camera.

Speaker 7 (25:07):
Which another little tidbit is when you have two people
doing a scene the way that they're placed. There were
scenes where the actors couldn't see the actor that they're
speaking to, so they had to rig mirrors so that
they still had the sightline so that they could see
the actor because the camera is so huge. Oh like
they're holding it's like six people holding this big ass
film camera up and they can't they can't even see

(25:29):
their scene partner. So they show like Tom Holland talking
to John I never know how to say his name,
the Punisher, Daddy, thank.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
You, that's the one I said.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
And the mirror there, he's the mirror. Yeah, that's the
publish in Spider Man Together.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
You know what's crazy though, I think in that he'd
be looking more white. He looked a little spicy white,
and he was giving like a little Morocco.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
He could get it. He was given a little on that,
but like he was. I was like, oh, maybe it
was the setting because.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
He they was on the beach.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
She got a tan girl.

Speaker 10 (26:05):
He was.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
He was looking fun. That was fine ship right now.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
But we got to see the Odyssey, and I'm the
conversation to around the Odyssey is didn't we all have
to read it? I mean it was that the Iliad
and what's the other one?

Speaker 4 (26:22):
There was?

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Well, the story of Troy and then the.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Story of Troy, which that movie Brad Pitt, I've seen
the story of Troy is like everyone else they come in, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
Which they actually put a lot of that story into here.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
You had, well that's a big part of.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
Yeah, there was a lot of that.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
There was a lot.

Speaker 7 (26:39):
I will say it helps to know some of the story. Yes,
So there are YouTube things that you could watch. It
won't they won't spoil the movie because there are changes
in the movie from the actual book.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
And then poem.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
There's not a lot of.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
I won't say backstory, but the conversations around all of
the guys. You just hear their names, so like there's
a scene of seriously and I'm like, bitch, I know, seriously,
what is she? I knew Poseidon, I knew like I
knew zeus Haiti's like.

Speaker 5 (27:10):
You doing research in the movie. Yes, you are cycle.
You are a cycle.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
In the movie.

Speaker 7 (27:17):
Because me being crazy, I'm like, and she had the
big boy phone.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
And this is why it is like.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Because I need to know now, right now, right now,
I know it's a problem, which is why also I
also always need to know the ending that tism was.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
Oh my god, Yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
It was bad.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
It was bad. I will say, speaking of tism.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
While I give this movie honestly, I'm not even gonna
hold you for me watching it that late. Maybe the
Edibles helped me stay awake. I give it a ten
out of ten.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Oh wow, I do.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
I enjoyed it, but I love I couldn't.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Grab mythology like Mellow.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
Well because I was, but I was in it. But
the first and y'all know me say, here go my ignorance,
maybe my tism. I don't know. The first twenty.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Minutes I was scared of how I would receive this
movie because you know, they be talking with all them
real weird words and shit.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
Like what language is this? It's English?

Speaker 1 (28:23):
But what the fuck are y'all saying? So it's me
trying to figure out this little old English bullshit.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
It took a while to adapt well, because they get
right in it.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
They get right into well and that's a lot of talking.
And the niggas was whispering. They were, and it's like
my niggas, Hey.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
It was.

Speaker 7 (28:39):
We was in the back and I saw the speakers
in the middle, these speakers not hitting a song.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
Don't mind you.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
I'm like, really, focused because then however they shot it,
maybe they need to remaster the film.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
The background noise was so loud.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
I was like one of the you know, like when
you had a when you at like lunch or dinner
and the music too loud, so you can't hear the
people at jokes people, so.

Speaker 6 (28:59):
You like waiter, you can't do a little bit.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
That's what I wanted to do in the movie, like
a bra The background too loud. I'm trying to hear
the God maybe the actors need to speak up. So
I'm like literally in my mind like is this me
being over stimulated because the background noise is so loud.

Speaker 7 (29:15):
This is the first time they filmed a full film
with this cana. Because that camera is so loud in
the filming, it's so hard to do scenes.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
They should have sold the actors to speak. So the
first twenty minutes was hard.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
He was like, an ha, what it was striking time?

Speaker 3 (29:36):
What?

Speaker 6 (29:37):
But it was hard and once.

Speaker 7 (29:39):
You like submitted to it, like all right, I really
got to lock in. Yeah there, the cole didn't get
us ready.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
It was hard. I need help me locking.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
Yeah, Nicole didn't tell the people shut up, and it's
at Lanta.

Speaker 6 (29:50):
It's crazy and they were loud.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Don't get like Atlanta has some of the fucking rudest
fucking people ever, like in New York.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
And maybe because it was really weird in New York.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
So to see im ex uh the real the real
IX screen in New York. Tickets are fifty six dollars. Yeah,
just go to the ipic that I like to go
to the nice one ticket five Yeah, so tickets for
this was twenty five buck.

Speaker 6 (30:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
I'll be honest.

Speaker 7 (30:18):
A lot of New Yorkers are going because they're they're
part of that industry, or they have a different reverence
for the arts. Like you could drop a needle in
Centers and you would, oh, yeah, you don't nobody's live.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
You don't hear nothing.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
What else was dope is they let me bring in
my food from a restaurant. So bitch I was eating
garlic noodles and a buttercake.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
And then the smelling.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
I like the I like saying that about that, but
I'm like, what is that smell?

Speaker 7 (30:45):
And I look at you like.

Speaker 6 (30:48):
Yeah, that's what we're gonna call it.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Noodle google and garlic noodles in the field.

Speaker 6 (30:53):
Bit Wait, what theater.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
Was this agame regal Atlantic Stations the ghetto, No, that
is the ghetto.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
God. Yeah, I wasn't mad at it was fine.

Speaker 5 (31:09):
The building is fine, like the inhabitants often.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Overall shop beautifully, story done so well.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
Every time I looked up on the screen, I think.

Speaker 5 (31:20):
I said, this cast, girl, they got everybody, everybody.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
You know, white people till I see their faces.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
But then I was like, that's in hath the way,
that's spoder Man that I said.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
That's the Born Supremacy And I love that.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Damon.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
I said, hold on, who else do I remember?

Speaker 1 (31:37):
And I said, girl, you know at the gate first
face you see, bitch, I said, pictures that Travis Scott with.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
A lazy Yeah, I heard that opened the scenes.

Speaker 6 (31:47):
Yeah, that's the part that I was a little like.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
That little Peter I was.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
I was impressed with the casting of it. It was
crazy as I actually saw this written Tomato survey that
said that sixty four percent of the people that went
to go watch this movie went to go watch it
because it was a Christopher Nolan film, not because of
the cat. He has now become a brand, just so

(32:14):
you know. So Antonet was like, let's make sure that
we tell people who do who does?

Speaker 6 (32:22):
Who is Man is?

Speaker 1 (32:24):
So starting from ninety eight, he is the following, he
is Memento, he is Insomnia, he is Batman begins, he
is the Prestige.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
The Dark Knight Inception.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
One of my favorite movies of all time, one of
my favorite movies of all fucking time. Shout out to
my favorite white one of them, The Dark Knight Rises.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
Interstellar another top tier is like that.

Speaker 6 (32:50):
That movie is.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Yes, Dunkirk, Tennant, Oppenheimer and The Odyssey, and it's apparently
told that without the success of Oppenheimer, he doesn't get
the budget to make this movie. Now, this is a
two hundred and fifty million dollar film that he probably
makes that.

Speaker 5 (33:05):
Back this week, which is interesting because I next.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
Because everyone is going it's already sold out for months.
You said you couldn't get it at the Mall of Georgia.

Speaker 5 (33:14):
No, they had shows as early as seven fifteen and
as late as three am, and the only seats are
the straight look up one hundred and ninety degree angle seats.

Speaker 6 (33:24):
For the very top. There's no tickets for this shit
at I seventy millimeters. Not everybody wants to see it
that way.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Well, what did you rate it.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
I'm gonna see it again.

Speaker 7 (33:34):
I think I would rate it, like It's not my
favorite of his, but I would rate it at least
as at least.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
To be honest with you, of this list, Inception is
still number one for me of his films. I just
think that the cinematography, the way.

Speaker 7 (33:49):
He oh no, the what he did was amazing, The
way that he and all the actors talk about how
difficult it is to work with him because he did
it in locations where he won't compromise his vision.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
So when they were up on that cliff, like they
had to go up that cliff.

Speaker 7 (34:03):
Every single day with all of the armor, equip everything,
because they.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Would not allow them to build a role.

Speaker 7 (34:09):
Like Matt Damon talked about how physically challenging the role
is good. Yeah, but like and so, I just this
story is not my favorite story. It's fine, but it's
it's not my favorite story. But I typically when there's
a cast like this, I'm usually really disappointed, Like when
they humble, like the Avengers cast and you're like, oh,

(34:30):
I forgot the day it was like everybody was in
and typically like they tried to appease the egos of
the actors and sacrifice the story. And like the actual
movie itself and the edit, this just felt like even Lupita,
she didn't have a lot to do in this, but
what she did it was excellent. And that was it,
and it was he he wasn't going to sacrifice the story.
I I really enjoyed it. I'm excited to see it again.

Speaker 5 (34:52):
Well that's the thing with Christopher nolan films, Like he
because of all the movies that you named in, all
of his prestige and like he's built a world where
if Christopher Nolan calls you for a film, you go
do the You're exciting, Yeah, you're excited to go do
this film.

Speaker 6 (35:06):
Whatever you got going on is your actor.

Speaker 5 (35:08):
You want to be a part of that because it's
going to be a tempole of the year, whatever year.

Speaker 7 (35:12):
And I love the theme his films are typically like
the hero is not necessary, the hero is so compromised.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Yeah, it is internally struggling as the heroes.

Speaker 7 (35:22):
Yeah, with what whatever they're offering is, whether it be
Oppenheimer or even this.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
I loved it.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
And for those of you who don't know the Odyssey
or the story of Odysseus, can we do it in
like the most niggafied way you can.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
We're gonna start, No.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
You gotta because you said the story was real cute
and you said it, well, look I might.

Speaker 7 (35:45):
I cannot wait to watch all the breakdowns to this.
I'm gonna see it to agein in New York.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
She was like, that was cute. That was cut.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
Well, no, because because also Internet led with like, ooh,
I need a man.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
It's gonna you know, fight for me for ten.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Years back in my life.

Speaker 6 (36:04):
So fine.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
So that that is basically the story. So Odysseus goes
to conquered Troy.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
He ends up staying there for he was there for
what three three years? Three years because he ended up
getting well heaving there seven.

Speaker 7 (36:19):
Yeah he was for a while, and yeah, nig he
was on his journey, but he was with old girl
seriously serious seven years.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Wait No, that wasn't seriously seriously, what's up?

Speaker 3 (36:32):
The other one was Charlie Aphrodite? Was it Afrodite?

Speaker 2 (36:35):
I don't know who she was.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
I think that was AFRODITI Oh Charlie's wrong?

Speaker 6 (36:39):
Oh yeah, yeah, wrong, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Like, why she that pretty?

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Because so like what I mean, I'm not gonna lie.
If you're gonna have an affair, she gotta look better
than like.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
We classify him as to having an affair. That wasn't
a fair she she was feeding him them damn flocks the.

Speaker 7 (36:57):
Same way niggas get waiting know he was married and
had a child. He was begging her to know, and
she was like, that's why he was mad. Unpopular opinion
that she.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Took advantage of that. No, she did take advantage of that.
Drugged him but drugs, but she did save his life. Yeah,
but she had to keep him drugs.

Speaker 6 (37:15):
She was in there CARDI being a man.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
Don't oh my.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Us So basically, so basically he comes up on shore,
she feeds him these because he's like, you know, mannic
and ship.

Speaker 7 (37:33):
So she's getting She said she had to calm his
mind so she could turn to his body because she
had leeches on him getting the okay, what is it infections, And.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
So she nursed him back to health and that kept him.

Speaker 7 (37:53):
No, she said, she said, you were happy here, but
you're was always some somewhere else, somewhere else, and so
she wanted she knew that his.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Memories would start to come back where you miss So
Basically the story is she was he leave Troy because
he decides he needs.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
To go, you know, go back home.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
On his journey back home, after all these men are
killed and after he didn't upset the gods. On his journey,
he ends up coming on the mainland running into the Cyclops.
Cyclops is the son of motherfucking Poseidon.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
Right, and so the water.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
So pretty much, they're like, you don't piss all these
motherfucking gods off. You went against Zeus's law, you went
against Poseidon, you went against all these people.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
They mad at you. They gonna make this journey motherfucking hard.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
So he goes on this journey to get back home
to Ithaca for his woman, Penelope, who holding out with.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
All these suitors.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
All these niggas want her, but they don't really want her.
They just want to be king.

Speaker 7 (38:52):
They just want to access and they want to kill
her son, and they want to kill her son.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
Really like, man, I'm him, I'm knowing a little young
right now.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
I'm not a real nigga yet, but I'm about to
be like, let me just get a little bit older.
I can run this shit. But they was like, oh
young and shut up, and they was ready.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
To kill him and then be with his mama.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
And not even one of the main suitors not only
wanted to be with the mama just to be the king,
he was fucking the.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
Help like on some real trifling shit.

Speaker 6 (39:19):
So it was a bunch of lamar odems, you know.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Hear me out.

Speaker 5 (39:22):
Yeah, they wanted to Cloud Cloud to be rocking with
the Okay, yeah, there we go.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
So on his way, Odyssey is just keep making all
the wrong motherfucking decisions, like just starting so out. All
his men just keep getting killed around him, eight by side,
clips ate by, like this little monster in the ocean.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
They got killed, swung giant turned in the pig.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
Okay, let me tell you my one critical point of
this movie.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
So there's an island of giants.

Speaker 6 (39:53):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
I was a little upset that the creative direction here
wasn't to just make him a whole bunch of shirtless
big old like you're like, they put.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Them in armor.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
I said, these are giants. I know their bodies ripped.
Let's just see a whole bunch of giant men with
no shirt.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
They get turned on by the fantasy giant.

Speaker 7 (40:14):
Me what is that alien Shipical.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
Was so mad that the giants was in all this armor.
It was just a whole bunch of knights.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
I wanted to see giants, big niggas, like like on
three hundred, how they just be oiled down chisel but big.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
I wanted to see seven.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Foot connect and me and me and men.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
It might have been it is, but I wanted to
see a whole bunch of da giants.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
And I'm like running through the guys somebody we know.

Speaker 6 (40:43):
I mean, like these are giants like ten, Like.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
No, they're huge, They're just a kid. No, the kid
that was big, the big We're telling you the story. Yeah,
not do it anyway.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
They fight the giants, all these niggas get killed.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
They end up in hades, hades and up saying, all
your nigga's gonna die, but you're gonna make it home.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
But you gotta do right when you get but.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
You gotta do right while you get home.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
And when you get home, dressing disguise. Don't let them
niggas know you.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
Just back.

Speaker 6 (41:13):
You need the stree where it's at r and they gonna.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
Want to do something to you. So it was just
a really good story. The only time I cried, I
cried in it. So you cried for the different We
cried at the same time, but you cried for a
different reason.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
I did.

Speaker 7 (41:24):
I cried, we don't reveal it. There're selling to do
it an animal, Oh my god. And if you're an
animal lover, you're gonna cry. Miney I got to say.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
It was clear the animal was old girl.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
Don't tell the story.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
So for me, I'm like, he lived for me. I
wept when I was like, oh my god father and
son United didn't give a.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Fuck about that. I said, bring good Dah back. It's
not I started. I started thinking about my dog.

Speaker 7 (41:52):
I was scrolling it, Oh my scrolling a pictures like,
oh my god, she's not gonna be here forever.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
That was my takeaway from the odysty.

Speaker 3 (41:59):
The odist I will say, if you have the chance
to go see it.

Speaker 6 (42:02):
I'm definitely gonna see it.

Speaker 5 (42:03):
I was already going to go see it, but after
this Nigga asked review, I definitely.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
To see this fleet because that's even how I got
to enjoy Othello on Broadway, only because I remembered it
through the lens of oh.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
I was like, okay, that's my cop fight for that's Julius.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Okay, Okay, this is the basketball team.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
Okay. Oh yeah he okay.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
So I was able to watch him know what was
going on, because then the party was like you just
was with this bitch for.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
Seven years and I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 7 (42:36):
That wasn't even the main the main personally, I think
the love part in being loyal is secondary to him
having to face the fact that he became that he
became a villains his worst nightmare, like he betrayed himself
but thought he was the most honorable thing winning this war,
when in reality, he went against the gods, he broke

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all the olds, and.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
He had to make it right and did it. Was great.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
Shout out to him, y'all check out the odyssey.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Do that all right?

Speaker 1 (43:05):
We're gonna get into a little ignorance now, a little
double down or take it back now. This was asked
also by the patron community ironically, as well.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
As my mammy and mammy and he didn't even know.
He didn't even know, but he wanted to know.

Speaker 4 (43:19):
So.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Anternet attended two of the three jay Z shows at.

Speaker 6 (43:26):
Yankee Stadium very jealous.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
She is also somewhat self proclaimed not really aligned, doesn't
say it often but a feminist as well as somewhat
someone who fully aligns with this boycott of Target. Now
we know that jay Z partnered with Target, so would
love to know anternet as well as the people, how

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you is someone who is a part of this boycott
could attend Champion and promote a person who not only
lets we very clear, partnered with Target, was like, this
might be the end of this boycott, clearly if I'm
partnering with it. He also was someone who called to
the end of boycotting in the NFL when he partnered

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with the NFL. So would love to know your hypocrisy
and how you.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
Double down or take it back, like knowing that this
was wrong?

Speaker 2 (44:21):
Oh is this a question? Are you telling me?

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Oh? See, here we go? How do you feel? How
do you lean into the.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
Here you got a runway bab okay, because the people
want to know how you could do it when.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
You have moral moral code.

Speaker 7 (44:37):
The easiest answer to this is I got my tickets
before that was announced that he was That's the easiest answer.
If I'm being completely out, tickets are already good at purchase. Okay,
But all right, I think it's very important that we
talk about Jay from from a specific lens, right, because

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when I am not, I'm anti capitalists.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
You I with the shits.

Speaker 7 (45:05):
Jay is obviously a capitalist, right very much. So Jay
is also a cultural icon. He's someone that I grew up,
so that that's that's one side of him.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
There's a there.

Speaker 7 (45:17):
This is gonna be nuanced cultural icon. I went to
I wasn't around for a reasonable dot was I want?
I went back and of course no reasonable doubt now,
but my man wanted to go to that one.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
I watched the dog, so I went to the Blueprint.

Speaker 7 (45:31):
Cool Blueprint is a coming of age for me, like
hearing that on stage, knowing that like this might be
the I don't know if this the last time I'm
ever gonna I've never heard him do this album.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
He's never done this with eminem The fuck I'm here.
This is amazing.

Speaker 7 (45:46):
The energy New York, the Knicks just won. It's New
York energy right now is nuts.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
Well, there's swimming technically right now. So the energy is women.
It's a damper on the city. I'm just saying they're underwater.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
You're a hater, enjoy an.

Speaker 7 (46:00):
So that's that's one aspect of the why the other
thing is that jay Z is such a complicated human
partly because if we think about jay Z, we've always
known how jay Z operates. Capitalism is a structure where
it preys on the most marginalized and the most at risk,
in my opinion, in order to make profit. Jay Z

(46:22):
and Marci Projects did that exact thing right in Brooklyn.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
That's where Marcy is no, no, no, I'm talking by yes. Yeah,
that area is different.

Speaker 7 (46:32):
Always the profit margins and the people that have been
impacted by that have been a secondary thought.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (46:42):
So jay Z also comes up in a time where
I truly believe that freedom was deeply associated with wealth
and with making money, and that was your pathway towards freedom,
to getting on the same level and being in the
room and having ownership and all these things. If we're

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talking about a structure, being in the room and having
ownership within this capitalist structure, is he's taking that pathway.
That's the only way to be in these rooms really
is to play that game. You s the game that
I'm not let me just give me, give me some
space that I'm not willing the I personally, I'd rather

(47:23):
be in my little tax bracket and not be a
billionaire than play those games.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Okay, he is like, no, guess what.

Speaker 7 (47:32):
The pathway y'all can y'all can feel like that, but
you can't get shit done and put pressure on these
politicians and put pressure on policy and be in a
position to have a rock nation that is doing arguably
very important philanthropic work at work rooted in activism. He

(47:53):
talked about the different especially when it comes to me
and the justice systems and criminal justice. Listen, I ain't
going to So there's another part of it. It's like, Okay,
this is so complicated, and so then you have jay
who's at the helm of this that everybody is just
like again, it's to me, excuse me.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
I feel like jay Z.

Speaker 7 (48:14):
I don't think he's a bad person. I think he
operates within a very bad system, and I think that
he has drank the kool aid of that system, believing
that that system is the pathway to freedom, and I
just have more of an imagination about how we can
get that done. So to me, the approaches are different.
I truly believe that jay Z wants to see people free.

(48:36):
I do in his heart of hearts, I believe that
jay Z wants people to be better off. In my
heart of hearts, I believe that he does not understand that.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
He takes it so personally.

Speaker 7 (48:46):
When people talk about billionaires, we're talking about you, the
human being, and what's in your heart versus take a
step back and recognize we are talking about a system,
and we need you to be more imagined about how
this system could possibly operate and help us break that down.
I think these conversations are super important because guess what,

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this younger generation that didn't come up in the same
time as Jay, It's like, hold up, I don't want
the people around me to be fucked over in order
for me to live. That's not my idea of freedom.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
I don't. My idea of freedom is not to then
become the oppressor that.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
Was actually gonna be my question. You think that that's
not the same promise today, like.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
I truly do not.

Speaker 3 (49:28):
Well, I think freedom looks like today.

Speaker 7 (49:30):
I think that a lot of people now are being
awakened to the fact that capitalism is the issue, which
is why we're having these conversations, which is why New
York City elects AmAm Donnie, which is why DC just
elected a Democratic Socialist mayor. People are like, wait, I'm
the first generation where I'm not better off than my parents,

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I'm worse off than my parents.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
So this system is not working.

Speaker 7 (49:55):
I'm not saying you the person are bad, but you
being a this system allow showing a billionaire, trillionaire, whatever
the fuck elon is is a problem. No matter how
much good you could do, it doesn't break down the
fact it doesn't. It doesn't even you could have a
million rock nations. Oprah got a million things out there,
but she being in that tax bracket and the way

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that this system is structed to support her and these
the Disney heiresses and all these people that trickle down
will never really get to the root of what the
problem is. So all of these different things. And I
sat with it where when he the freestyle.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
Really pissed me off.

Speaker 7 (50:37):
Okay, I did not like that freestyle. I thought it
was such a misstep bringing up Colin and and and
it's also just historically inaccurate the idea the note and
if people don't know what we're talking about, maybe you
could insert it later in post. But like that that
initial Day One freestyle where you talked about, you know,
like y'all talking about a target boycott but you still

(50:59):
on meta and all this stuff.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
Listen, I talked.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
About what organizing and boycotting looks like last.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
I just want to be super like, you can't do it.

Speaker 7 (51:07):
You can't do all of it, And historically you're always
supposed to pinpoint one so that you can show have
a show of force, show how that impacts one thing,
I think, and then be better off and move to
the next thing. This structure is set up where you
can't boycott everything because you actually can't function within the structure.
That's why they want to monopolize and consolidate power the

(51:30):
way that they do, because they know, hey, the more
we monopolize things and consolidate this latest game, that's why.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
As tricky how Paramount just buying up there.

Speaker 7 (51:40):
Like the board is suing them because what the because you.

Speaker 5 (51:44):
So Paramount, there's a bunch of companies that are trying
to buy up everything.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
I mean to be honest, Amma, dangerous buying up hopeful
like they have that you can now get your medicine
from Amazon.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
They have their own delivery service.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
So that's the thing we're like.

Speaker 7 (52:02):
For me, I'm like, Jay, you gotta be you gotta
be open to having this dialogue, right, like you this
you taking it so personally. And also I think that
he's just like I know ship that y'all don't know
because y'all are peasants. I think there's an arrogance to
it as well, that I'm just like, that's a that's
a that's an air, that's a character flawed.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
Not everybody's gonna be perfect.

Speaker 7 (52:24):
But I truly believe that he thinks and I'm not
equating him at all.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
Two, But this is just an easy.

Speaker 7 (52:34):
Right, comparisons like Malcolm and Martin which pathway to freedom?
To just even though they were very similar, they were
very similar because Martin has been pacified in history by
white people, and he was very far more anti capitalist
and far far more.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Radical than what.

Speaker 7 (52:55):
People But that's just the easy thing of like which
pathway is the way to do it?

Speaker 5 (53:00):
That's always been a tension inside of the argument for
black liberation, right, the people who want to work inside
of it, the people who want to burn.

Speaker 6 (53:08):
The whole shit down.

Speaker 5 (53:09):
I remember during the during like the summer of protests,
I was somewhere and there was a girl at the
bar who was basically making fun of all the people
outside process to protest and all the outside wasting their time.

Speaker 6 (53:23):
What the fuck is that shit gonna do?

Speaker 5 (53:25):
Whoooooo brings and so yeah, and I'm going back and
forth for her, and I'm like, they talk about this
shit on the news every single day, because there's tens
of thousands, millions of people outside every day. You have
to talk about the issue. The shit can't go nowhere.
Just working on the inside is just working on the inside.
There's not gonna be cameras, it's not gonna be dialogue

(53:46):
about everything that you're doing on the inside. You're just
asking everyone to just trust that you're doing the work,
and that may or may not be something that is feasible.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
But to everybody has a role to play.

Speaker 6 (53:57):
Everybody has a role to play. And I never understood
this idea.

Speaker 5 (54:00):
I don't I don't subscribe to the idea of liberation,
meaning that you take tools off the table, you.

Speaker 6 (54:06):
Use everything that's there for you.

Speaker 5 (54:08):
Now the problem becomes, like you're saying, when it comes
to capitalism, Jay's gonna do what he wants to do.
And I agree with you. I think he thinks he's
doing the right thing. I think his major faux pas
is that he's unwilling to engage with the criticism, the
rightful criticism of capitalism and what the what the cons are.

Speaker 6 (54:27):
It can't just be all pros.

Speaker 5 (54:29):
And I know that he feels that, like, you know,
financial freedom my only hope and all of this, like
I can't be I can't help the poor if I'm
one of them.

Speaker 6 (54:36):
Like he's been saying this stuff for a long time.

Speaker 5 (54:38):
And to his also to his point, or do you
fools listen to music or do you just skim through it?

Speaker 6 (54:43):
He's been talking like this for decades.

Speaker 5 (54:46):
People are just the people's society is just now catching
up to is this right? So it's like the people
who are just now waking up to the idea that
capitalism is not just all good and that there's a
lot of drawbacks and it's hurting. A lot of people
are just waking up to the fact that, oh shit,
maybe this isn't a good idea. But this is what

(55:07):
he built his persona, his juice off of he or
farmed for that thing of being a successful entrepreneur and
having all these things. And so I get the idea
that having things can help people. Bill Cosby helped a
lot of people. He put a lot of black kids
through school. Doesn't mean Bill Cosby is a good person.

(55:28):
Some of our famous icons have all got with respectability
politics of pull your pants up, or how can they
respect us if we don't respect ourselves and all these things.

Speaker 6 (55:38):
Sidney Poitier and Oprah and.

Speaker 5 (55:41):
All the people that people kind of look up to
in culture have all said things that we now know
that we kind of object to for various reasons. And
I think that when people are coming with good faith criticisms,
you have to kind of engage in that. This week
in Atlanta there was a big thing about toast on
Linux because the owner of toastal Linux, so.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
Total Lix, is a black owned.

Speaker 6 (56:06):
Brunch spot, popular brunch spot. Woman.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
Also the head chef is black man.

Speaker 6 (56:11):
Black man. Yes, is what I would call a grasswall
neon sign. But it's good, No, it's good for.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
The city as a whole.

Speaker 6 (56:21):
That's people people.

Speaker 5 (56:25):
There and they're gonna do it. This week, the owner
of toast u Yeah, she took some pictures with the
man named Rick Jackson. Rick Jackson is running for governor
of Georgia. He touts himself as Trump two point zero.
He touts himself and he has an ad running right now,
anti immigrant ad that says either deported or departed.

Speaker 6 (56:43):
However it goes is how it goes. So Rick Jackson, clearly.

Speaker 5 (56:46):
We are all bottomed, like you know what bottom yeah,
lands bottoms is his running against it, right, So this
black woman.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
Is post this is an endorsement, so you're ready.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
So now the community as a whole, it's kind of
battling with now either boycotting toast because how dare you?

Speaker 3 (57:08):
But also but this is us, this is a black owned.

Speaker 7 (57:11):
We're engaged in a conversation. Say like, we're going to
boycott until we until you engage with us. We're going
to impact your business until you engage with us. And
there are and there is a clear understanding of what
because we're in community together.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
So we're in community together, then there there.

Speaker 7 (57:28):
Are baselines and there's a safety that we're asking you
for and you taking that picture with that person and
that endorsing that doesn't keep us safe.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
But then when we talk about us, it's also really
hard because they have two locations and so boycotting then impacts.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
Ten.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
It doesn't happen ten like dozens of families because all
the workers there then are impacted.

Speaker 7 (57:54):
It's a trick again, it's trickle down and it doesn't
and then there's other ways. Again imaginative. Just because you boycott,
and that doesn't mean that you can't put your money
in a fund for the workers, the money that you
would have spent there. We have to imagine it. We
have to be look at what they did in Minnesota.
They were so organized when those ice raised were there.

(58:16):
They made but they also made sure that people who
couldn't go to work had food, had child's care. They
they were ensuring that that that immigrant community was taken
care of in a different kind of way.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
We have to be more imaginative.

Speaker 7 (58:32):
But Sis, she needs to engage with her community and
understand what you did doesn't work. And that goes back
to what you were saying. That's Jay's biggest error, that
he won't engage in the conversation. So I will be
honest and say I was conflicted when the target thing
came out. I didn't care that he wasn't the first
person to do it. I didn't know if he signed

(58:54):
on a diet of line or if that's just some shit.

Speaker 5 (58:57):
About that even business that sat first place, was it
him or was it his publisher was the people who
are like who.

Speaker 7 (59:05):
Know either way either way, but the and then the
larger conversation around the target work Waycott is like, we
have to be clear of what we're asking for and
who's leading this because then you have the pastor who
said it was over.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
Did we get our needs met?

Speaker 7 (59:17):
Because if we didn't get it, like, that's what that
was a problem with Black Lives Matter? And that's what
Sidney not Sidney Portier, excuse me ship, the one that
Jesse Williams was always with, helped me out the light lighter.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
Skin one I'm talking about. This is a sin.

Speaker 6 (59:35):
You know what I'm saying. I talk about hold on,
I'm gonna tell you that he.

Speaker 7 (59:37):
Kept saying like what do y'all want? You can't just
be out here saying black lives matter? How are you
holding these people accountable? Where are your tenants? And so
that's what we also have to get more clear on of,
like what is it that we want? And I don't
know that we have imagination or language for it like
the regular everyday person. But that is a question that
I think Van actually asked me that question one time

(59:59):
where he was like, like, what is what is your
vision of freedom and if you can't articulate that, then
you're just spinning your wheels. Yeah, you have to know
what that is, and you have to know what you
want for your community and be able to articulate it
so that when you're when you're evaluating policy, when you're
evaluating faux pause in your cultural uh zegeist, you're able

(01:00:21):
to evaluate it against a set of standards that you have.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
And I think that that's the difficulty with in terms
of even like our media landscape, right, you know, how
they talked about the intellectuals, Like, there's also this divide
with how we're giving information out to a way that
the common person can understand what the fuck is being said.

Speaker 7 (01:00:38):
Yeah, it's not that. If people can't digest it, you're
not doing you a job.

Speaker 5 (01:00:42):
Yeah, And that's and that's how communication works. Communication is
two things. It's what you say and what was heard.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
Yeah hell yeah yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:00:49):
And you know, l Russell learned that real fast, and
if he hasn't learned it, then maybe he needs to
figure the fuck out. But like, what you say is
one thing, and what people hear something else. And if
you haven't made yourself totally clear, and you're not crystallized
on what exactly it is that you're saying. Even if
something is taken out of context, you can still explain it.
But if you leave parts out, then you're letting people

(01:01:11):
decide what that thing is.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
I agree Harry Belafante, by the way, God bless him.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
Yes, but let's get into this as America.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
Because me and Internet first, we outside the lettuce on
nothing everything. They took the lettuce off of everything. You
couldn't have a salad. We did eat them cucumbers. I
don't know if that's on the list, but it wasn't.

(01:01:43):
The skin wasn't off either.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
Tricky.

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
Yeah, that was tricky.

Speaker 5 (01:01:46):
They said that stuff with hard skin is when they
say it's safer.

Speaker 6 (01:01:50):
You used to need to.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
Well, well, she still ate the blueberries. I did, and
she had me order blue blueberries for the house. Y'all,
there is a food parts sweeping the country, and I
want to play this clip because this guy kind of
explains it well enough to where y'all know what the
fuck is happening.

Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
This is what's happening to y'all.

Speaker 9 (01:02:10):
Parasite that's causing explosive DIARYEA is messing people up all
over the United States. And these are the foods that
you might need to stay away from if you don't
want to be on that list. They're saying that you
might need to stay away from berries, strawberries, blueberries, raspberries,
and I know a lot of people love strawberries, but
right now you might need to stay away from them.
They're saying that you might need to stay away from broccoli.

(01:02:31):
They're saying that you might need to stay away from
pre made salad mix and for those of you who
don't know what the pre made solid mixes is, those
are salads in a bag.

Speaker 6 (01:02:40):
They're saying that you might just have to get fresh vegetable.

Speaker 9 (01:02:43):
They're even saying that certain herbs you might need to
stay away from.

Speaker 6 (01:02:46):
Also, like cilantro, like parsley, like.

Speaker 9 (01:02:49):
Basil, and they're saying don't eat those at this moment.
This is probably the same reason that they said Taco
Bell was under fire, because you already know Taco Bell
uses those herbs. For those of y'all that was clowning
people that eat well done meat, I bet you ain't
climbing them.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Now.

Speaker 9 (01:03:04):
Medical officials are saying that you need to overcook your meat.

Speaker 6 (01:03:07):
And if you don't overcook your meat.

Speaker 9 (01:03:09):
You need to make sure that your meat is one
hundred percent done. So that steak you was eating that
medium red you need not to do that. You need
to make that shit well done. They're even saying that
you that you need to make sure your age are
done popularly.

Speaker 6 (01:03:25):
And now for the parasite.

Speaker 9 (01:03:26):
Like I told you guys before, this parasite usually can
last two days, two weeks, or can even last a month,
So don't be on the bad side of history.

Speaker 6 (01:03:36):
Pay attention.

Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
I'm out.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
Yeah, all I know is bitch, So what we eat well?

Speaker 7 (01:03:42):
Because I'm on a weight loss journey and they just
took away half the healthy, all the shit that.

Speaker 6 (01:03:47):
People want to eat. This not what the crazy part
about it? You said you can't. They took off all
this shit.

Speaker 5 (01:03:51):
I've been to multiple restaurants this weekend that haven't taken
off anything.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
Oh, but maybe they're doing it fresh because remember I
was going to make the salad and those are fresh
earths I got from the farmer's market.

Speaker 5 (01:04:02):
But it's like they still I guess the question becomes like,
being that this is going on right now, what are
you instructing the kitchen staff to do?

Speaker 6 (01:04:11):
Are you?

Speaker 7 (01:04:11):
Because it's I don't think there is a kitchen. I
think it's a it's a consumer.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
Yeah, beware, if you eat this, you are at risk.

Speaker 5 (01:04:19):
Well, the thing I wanted to say, states are impacted
by Yes, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
Impacted thirty four states.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
I've seen clips of a woman saying she was sleeping
in the bathroom because of diarrhea.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
Was not damn bad.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
I'm seeing the jokes too, y'all know, summertime, fine people
people like I'll get the little parasite.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
So I could lose this fifteen pounds.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
I'm trying to lose, but you could die from that diarrhea.

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
Yeah, diarrhea. That's why I thought it was a joke
that they linked to.

Speaker 5 (01:04:45):
All your So that's the thing I wanted to get
to that he said about Taco Bell because I read
it blot.

Speaker 6 (01:04:50):
I read a lot about this over the last couple
of days, and it's.

Speaker 5 (01:04:53):
Not really about Taco Bell so much as it is
about Taylor Farms. Taylor Farms is where all of this
stuff comes from, and they Taylor Farm supplies way more
people than Taco Bell. So the thing about it is
is like, you know, even when they say Taco Bell,
it's kind of like it sounds like a convenient scapegoat
for for this big arment.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
Industry who had it they did not eat didn't eat a.

Speaker 6 (01:05:18):
Taco bell And so it's kind of like it just feels.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Like it's a pr PR administration.

Speaker 5 (01:05:23):
The administration to be like, oh, yeah, we cut all
this FDA ship, but it's this ain't our fault.

Speaker 7 (01:05:28):
Is, Like, that's what's going on here?

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
You explained clip play the clip.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
This explained something because me and Antonette had a conversation
around like the importance of what's happening. Of course, government regulation, regulation,
especially when you have a fucking monopoly and all coming
from one why.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
This is so big deal. So we're gonna play this
clip real quick.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
Shout out to breaking points.

Speaker 6 (01:06:00):
Yes, shout out to breaking points. They always have they
shit on here. I love them.

Speaker 10 (01:06:06):
For some reason, in their enthusiasm for government destruction, the
Trump administration decided it would be a great idea to
just stop requiring active surveillance for cyclospora, along with a
host of other food borne illnesses like lusteria. In fact,
now monitoring is only required for two pathogens that salmonilla
and E.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
Coli.

Speaker 10 (01:06:25):
Let's consider the irony here. We are devoting endless resources
to building the human tracking panopticon, but when it comes
time to surveil and track explosive diarrhea causing pathoge and
suddenly apparently we don't have the funds. This is all
unfolding too, amidst the backdrop of massive workforce cuts at
the CDC and across all of health and Human Services.
The CDC alone is lost about a quarter of its

(01:06:46):
workforce under Trump two point zero, including key experts among
the agency's disease detectives. Maintaining the previous surveillance regime would
not likely have stopped the outbreak, but the fact that
it's spreading unchecked, that the federal data is lagging way
behind the state data, and that no source still has
been identified, that all speaks to the detrimental impact of

(01:07:07):
all of these cuts. Former CDC communications staff for Sarah Boham, she.

Speaker 6 (01:07:11):
Was, yeah, so, and to be clear about something like again, to.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
See like this is this is like political.

Speaker 6 (01:07:20):
It's very much political, and.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
You never even It reminds me of like seeing the
airplanes during FIFA of the teams that brought in their
own food because they refuse to eat food.

Speaker 7 (01:07:32):
Here, this is what people say when they say when
they're like, I don't do politics, politics is doing you.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
Yeah, we don't have to believe, No, lou you say.

Speaker 6 (01:07:42):
Oh, well, just to be clear, like this isn't a decision.

Speaker 5 (01:07:45):
When when Trump cuts the funding for the FDA, for
the CDC, things like that, this isn't a move because he.

Speaker 6 (01:07:53):
Just thinks this is the right thing to do.

Speaker 5 (01:07:55):
These type of moves are lobbied for by capitalist systems
that we're talking about Taylor Farms.

Speaker 6 (01:08:01):
And all Cisco.

Speaker 5 (01:08:05):
With the other all of these food distribution companies, they
lobby for ship like this because they want to cut costs.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
And what do you mean when you say lobby break
it down?

Speaker 5 (01:08:15):
So there are people who are paid on behalf of
these companies to go to politicians to line their pockets
maybe directly campaign campaign, whether it's a trip here or
come over there. You know, Clarence Thomas is you.

Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
Guys want to hear this too on Patreon.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
We just broke down lobbying because it's what Boosy is
suing the six hundred thousand.

Speaker 6 (01:08:36):
Yes what it is crazy.

Speaker 7 (01:08:44):
Because they was like, we only got to give you
back half half it is, so it's worth it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
But no, so they actually may not have to give
back half, because you have to give back half if
it never gets to the desk. The White Houses came
forward and said, well, we've seen it. It got says,
doesn't mean well, the White House has confirmed that what
these two white boys could do was get it to Trump.

Speaker 3 (01:09:07):
It's not that Trump gonna do what you want him
to do, but that he got to see it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
So technically he may not even get half back because
the White House did confirm that it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
Reached your point on this because this isn't really.

Speaker 5 (01:09:20):
But to be clear, we don't No one will ever
know if Trump saw it. They're saying Trump saw it,
and that's all they have to do. But if these
guys are there, guys, of course they're gonna tell a lot.
Oh yeah, yeah, we saw them. We saw them go
to your trip, bro, like he we'll see what happened.
I can't guarantee you nothing, but I showed it to him,
so whatever. But yes, but these lobbyists, and there's lobbyists

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in all industries, you know a lot of times most
of the time we hear about it in regards to
the n RA and things like that.

Speaker 6 (01:09:50):
But they're lobbyists.

Speaker 5 (01:09:51):
For every industry, especially now tech lobbyists who are going
to these politicians saying, hey, if you can get this
done for us, it would be helpful.

Speaker 6 (01:10:00):
To our cause.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
Or get rid of or get.

Speaker 5 (01:10:02):
Rid of this thing, or x this out, or change
his personation this regulation, fire that person, move that person,
transfer this person, put this person in that place. They
argue for all these type of things, and they go
to politicians and put money in their campaign cofers. Sometimes
you can come in the form of trips. You know,
this is what they acute Claire Simons of a lot. Yeah,

(01:10:23):
he has all of these corporate New York Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
Eric Adams, Giuliani, all of them are all compromised by
So when you hear people talking about.

Speaker 6 (01:10:34):
APAC APAK, what is APAC? What is a pak? And
why does this matter so much? Like this is what
they're talking about.

Speaker 5 (01:10:39):
These are the banks that put the money in the
pockets of politicians to do shit like this, and you
don't think.

Speaker 6 (01:10:46):
About it until everybody got fucking.

Speaker 5 (01:10:50):
Disupposed to diarrhea, and then you started learning like, oh shit,
that's what they were doing. Yeah, that's what they were doing,
Like that's what that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
Is that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
What's also crazy is in the last week the world
has been under natural disasters that is.

Speaker 7 (01:11:08):
Natural, the unnatural, because we're ruining the fucking planet.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
I mean, we don't have no goddamn regulations.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
Well there's no regulation, but you already know. I think
the government be.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
Doing all this shape like you're doing. The weather may be.

Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
Doing the weather bank.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
The weather machine is working in overdrive.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
You know what.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
The weather machine also using the fresh water, just like
the goddamn AI data seconds. Okay, they's taking all the
fresh water with this weather machine, y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
We had a landslide in China. We had a sinkhole
in Baltimore.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
New York City, Manhattan downtown was underwater, and mind you,
Queens Queens was underwater yet again. Three years later, the
whole Northeast is dealing with the overflow of smog and
ash from the wildfires in Canada.

Speaker 5 (01:11:58):
And what's the fuckid boulevards ruin every time it rains
here in Atlanta, seventy five and eighty five floods completely flooded.

Speaker 6 (01:12:08):
There was fire.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
I was in New Orleans, whole transparent transformer blue underground
and cause the fire.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
Like I want to know why.

Speaker 7 (01:12:17):
We're shocked though, like how much more do we think
we can take from this planet? And like it doesn't
it only has but so much to give.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
I would like to make it to ninety but no,
but like I don't think, I don't I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
I don't think we have a lot more.

Speaker 7 (01:12:30):
This planet can't take much more than one week like
we She was like, but there's.

Speaker 3 (01:12:35):
No what is a landslide?

Speaker 8 (01:12:37):
Is that without mud like we get in the landslide?
The land was there was I want to be clear, Yes,
the land was. It wasn't just how homes rolled down,
It was.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
The structurally the world is.

Speaker 7 (01:12:50):
Yeah, when you even the even the heat in New York,
like people were talking about how mom dying to heat
out something that was like, hey, can you all turn
off y'all air condition nerves? And which a thermostats one?
I think it was like seventy two or something. People
like what but like, our grid can't take this, You're
gonna be without like this, we are in for such

(01:13:13):
a rude awakening because this the earth, as Shanti says,
shaking us off, this bitch bad.

Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
They're shaking me.

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
Yeah, like what the going on? It's like a flea, like,
get the fuck off.

Speaker 5 (01:13:26):
Here, well to stay in the jay Z thing. We
are the dirt on the Earth's shoulders and they are
getting us the fuck off like and it's crazy to
me because it's so it's such an arrogant human thing,
but it's also so myopic at the same time because as.

Speaker 6 (01:13:43):
Far as we know, Earth is the only Earth.

Speaker 5 (01:13:46):
You know about the other planets that are out here,
we don't know anywhere else right now that is inhabitable
for humans, not a single place. So this is one
of the most rarest commodities in the galaxy, in the
universe literally, and any other commodity like that people would
treat with reverence. But because it's the Earth and we
just arrogant humans walking around this bitch thinking that we

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just own everything and consuming, taking, taking, making making money,
doing all of this ship, we think that it's just
gonna be here for us.

Speaker 6 (01:14:14):
And I'm like, are the individualism and individualism?

Speaker 5 (01:14:18):
There's no collectivism at all, there's no forethought, there's no
bird's eye view.

Speaker 6 (01:14:23):
It's just this day, this hour, this minute, this second.
What can I gain?

Speaker 7 (01:14:27):
But see how this trickles into like Amazon packages too,
mm hmm, Like could you could you maybe wait two
days for all your ship to come at once?

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
You need that, you need.

Speaker 7 (01:14:36):
Your packages, you need an hour right now, right you buying.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
Ten things, and it's giving you the option be green
do this. Can we deliver this in two days? You
see what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (01:14:49):
But people, there are people who are like, nah, I
need all of this as soon as it's ready.

Speaker 3 (01:14:54):
Sorry, people, is me, but that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (01:14:57):
But like, it's interesting for us to have and it's
not just you, it's all just making these decisions.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
It's interesting that we see.

Speaker 7 (01:15:05):
The problem so clearly, we identify our our part in it,
yet we're still like, nah, I needed It's like we're
literally doing that. We are Odysseus. We're doing the thing.
We're our own enemy. We're betraying ourselves every fucking day.

Speaker 5 (01:15:25):
And the problem is is that, And I've been saying
this and I'm gonna.

Speaker 6 (01:15:29):
Say it again.

Speaker 5 (01:15:29):
The only thing niggas want more than cash or credit
is convenienced.

Speaker 6 (01:15:34):
And we're gonna convenience ourselves.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
Today credit conveniently.

Speaker 5 (01:15:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Like we're gonna convenience ourselves to death.

Speaker 6 (01:15:44):
We're gonna get this.

Speaker 5 (01:15:45):
We're gonna solt life ourselves right into a fucking grave.

Speaker 6 (01:15:49):
And here we are.

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
Well, this is not a sports podcast, but let's get
to this next topic. We can say on this briefly
because you know, are we surprised?

Speaker 3 (01:15:59):
I'm relich, yes all, so, y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
This past Saturday, Toronto coach Sandy Brundello took to social
media to apologize to Ada Reese after she was heard
referring to her as a protected species during the Atlanta
Dreams win over her team, Now, y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
According to ESPN, the w n b A has since suspended.

Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
Brundello for one game without pay and she will serve
for suspension. She did it last night as her team
faced the last Vegas Aces.

Speaker 3 (01:16:30):
Now, we spoke about.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
The w A the w n b A last week
because politics decided to write a letter in support of
to help with to uh go against the racist currently dealing.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
With the wall are hoping or not?

Speaker 6 (01:16:54):
What are we talking about? Actually?

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
And yet we have a coach finding just a different
way to call Angel reesa nigga by referring to her
as a protected species.

Speaker 6 (01:17:04):
Yeah, now, Sandy Bundello is from Australia.

Speaker 5 (01:17:08):
Put another shrimp on the Bobby and all of that
ship Crocodile donedee.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
But so that's that's context as context thing.

Speaker 5 (01:17:18):
What a lot of people have said is that in Australia,
in sports.

Speaker 6 (01:17:23):
This is a phrase that they say.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
Sorry.

Speaker 5 (01:17:27):
Whether that's true or not, you know, Australians listen to
this and watching this, we have to tell me. I
don't know that, but it sounds like a very convenient
excuse at the very least. But none of that still
makes it any better. I mean, you have to know
who you're talking about. I just felt fine, the same
communication is what you say and what was heard, and
like if you make this kind of mistake, you say

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this about a black woman there is in America in America, like, yeah,
that comes with something.

Speaker 7 (01:17:53):
On the heels of the Caitlin Clark, I want to
be literally correct, yea sis. I'm glad that you're being
made an example out of and it's it's important that
the w NBA did this.

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
I'm glad that. I'm glad that they did too, and.

Speaker 7 (01:18:09):
I feel I feel sorry that Angel Reese is in
this position where she is. She's like the barometer for
how people are gonna treat I don't know this whole
Angel Reese, Caitlin Clark, Like they've just villainized her and
put her in a position where she is just so
vulnerable I feel, and.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
She's so much and she's so young to deal with it.

Speaker 7 (01:18:33):
But like, yeah, you got you gotta know your audience,
you gotta know your environment, and even the idea I
don't like either the saying what she said is one thing,
how she said it, but what she met by it
was also like she's a protect what she's.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
A what protected protective species? Why shouldn't she be protected?
Does she not deserve that?

Speaker 7 (01:18:57):
Or is it frustrating that she's protected because she's Angel
Rees is black?

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
But I want to understand what I want to ask
her someone.

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
But wonder if it's just from the lens of sports,
where then you have the unfairness of calls with reps.

Speaker 7 (01:19:11):
Or how I've seen Angel Reese get her ass beat
by that one that one girl.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
That got ejected with the black girl. She was fucking
yeah that game.

Speaker 7 (01:19:20):
I was like, damn, And nobody said anything that those
girls play physical at all.

Speaker 1 (01:19:24):
I just bought up, Like I went to the Dream
Game a couple of weeks ago. They were playing against Portland.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
And boy it was there.

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
It was like, oh, this is very physical.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
I mean they get very they're more physical.

Speaker 5 (01:19:40):
Yeah, i mean we just watched the NBA Finals where
when Yama fucking tried the guillotine Dalen bros And head
off and like that's the game.

Speaker 6 (01:19:49):
Like the game is the rest.

Speaker 5 (01:19:51):
Job to qualify or reject someone or whatever the whatever
the case is. But that's how it's gonna go. It's
gonna be physical. Their competitors, they're professional basketball players. Yeah,
you're gonna catch your elbow sometimes, you're gonna catch your
knee sometime. Sometimes you might get pushed, sometimes you might
get hacked. Like that's just what it is.

Speaker 7 (01:20:08):
If she's trying to say she can nobody can criticize
her or criticize her game, that's one thing, but being
protected on.

Speaker 3 (01:20:14):
The court, all players should have.

Speaker 7 (01:20:17):
Feel that she's also a star. Yes, all players should
they all of them, don't. She's also a star the league.
She's gonna get some calls she is.

Speaker 5 (01:20:24):
But to your point, it's kind of like deserve the
Angel Reese has been put in this position. She's kind
of like the make the stallion of the w n
b S. That's kind of what this whole thing is
given where it's like, what is you know, what was that?

Speaker 6 (01:20:36):
I forget whose video was it? I think I wanted
to play that. Who's talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
We can okay, yeah, we can get right into celebrities
say the darnis things because I think that's a great comparison.
That's how with with Meg the scion Vic Mensa recently
shared his thoughts just about how people view female rappers
versus their male colum parts. And I know we were
speaking to black women and that comparison, but if you
could play this clip, it's a little long, but everything

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here he hit.

Speaker 4 (01:21:04):
Me on barometer for what you think about black women.
Someone originally told me she can't keep trying to ruin
people's lives by getting shot. How you ruined somebody life
by them shooting you? How could you do this to me?
You ran your body directly into my bullets. Male artists
are celebrated for shooting people. On the other hand, female

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artists are denigrated for getting shot. Let a rapper kill somebody,
they sails through the goddamn roof, we.

Speaker 6 (01:21:31):
Be like, man, it's a real man.

Speaker 4 (01:21:32):
Or if they get shot, the general consensus is man
he hardest man survive anything like Iron Man. Male artists
is celebrated for having as much sex as humanly possible.
For women, relationships you've had are used as justification for
you to die. What's that meme of the white girl
with the math in the sky. Here's another thing, young
Miami song. It's an amazing melody. The subject matter is decrepit,

(01:21:54):
but it's a very American record. I feel like the
Founding Fathers could have been singing that song.

Speaker 6 (01:21:58):
Well, my scam is that.

Speaker 4 (01:22:03):
All them damn treaties they was breaking with the Native Americans.

Speaker 6 (01:22:05):
I'm scamming.

Speaker 4 (01:22:06):
Point being American society is based on scamming.

Speaker 6 (01:22:09):
But it seems that.

Speaker 4 (01:22:10):
Women artists are invariably blamed for the situations they inherit
Janet Jackson case and point her two to get pulled out,
She get canceled, man gets shot.

Speaker 6 (01:22:18):
It's her fault.

Speaker 4 (01:22:18):
Make it make sense.

Speaker 6 (01:22:19):
I wrote an.

Speaker 4 (01:22:20):
Essay about this on my substat this week comments subscribe
to read it and I love, love.

Speaker 3 (01:22:25):
Love love his substack. It's so good.

Speaker 1 (01:22:28):
But yeah, case in point the bottom of the totem pole,
in terms of protection, in terms of believing, in terms
of opportunity, in terms of how society views us.

Speaker 3 (01:22:42):
And again to take it from music to the w
NBA to politics and where do we go.

Speaker 7 (01:22:53):
There's an argument to be made that women's value is
directly correlated with how much they can endure, especially from men. Yep,
if Megan would have got shot by Tori and quote
unquote held him down, she would be heralded as a
down ass bitch, as a real one.

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
And her stock was skyrocket.

Speaker 7 (01:23:18):
If she would have gotten cheated on by Clay and
it would have came out that she kept quiet and
ten years from now, there's a there's some vowels exchanged,
and there's a hint at all the times yead times
we've been through.

Speaker 2 (01:23:34):
You was there for me. Oh, y'all, that's real love.

Speaker 7 (01:23:38):
But because she was like, what the fuck I'm out
and I'm telling people that you hurt me, she got
our stock plummets.

Speaker 5 (01:23:48):
Well, I mean, and that's part of how like, that's
part of why Beyonce's lemonade was so celebrated, right.

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
Because she said accountability.

Speaker 6 (01:23:59):
What it was she said? She said accountability.

Speaker 5 (01:24:01):
But to your point, we're finding out about this way
after the fact, like they'd already kissed it made up
by that time. If she had said that in the moment,
if she did what Megan did in the moment, Oh
this nigga Jay cheated on me, and people would have
lost their ship on her.

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
Oh yeah, they wouldn't have.

Speaker 7 (01:24:17):
I think the women Beyonce had a lot of women
in the Choco, but I think it would have been
gender wars.

Speaker 2 (01:24:23):
But I think the.

Speaker 7 (01:24:24):
Beautiful thing that she did was handle her business and
through even four four for through the little that we
do know, it sounded like there was a whole lot
of self development and therapy. And you have to prove
to me that you're working on yourself, because you cheating
on me was really about you. Why would you why

(01:24:46):
would you deny yourself love? When you figure that out,
you could come home until you figure that out.

Speaker 6 (01:24:53):
Go ahead, go that way.

Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
I'm on tour.

Speaker 6 (01:24:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, pretty much.

Speaker 7 (01:24:57):
And I think that was And again in the fact
that it requires the fact that speaking your truth requires
such a perfect curation, is handling of how you talk
about your pain when it comes to your significant other,
the fact that it has to be so manicured as to.

Speaker 6 (01:25:20):
Not rus the patriarchy.

Speaker 1 (01:25:23):
Yeah, but people decide who they like that burden, and
it doesn't matter what she would have said. There's just
a a huge set of people who against are against
her they'd have been.

Speaker 7 (01:25:43):
Also, there's not I'm not shipping on Beyonce. There's also
a dynamic here where Meg is. She don't present like Beyonce,
She don't check off all them boxes. And so there
is an additional hurdle that a woman like Meg, who
is voluptuous, who was brown.

Speaker 2 (01:26:02):
Who speaks a certain way, who twerks this.

Speaker 3 (01:26:07):
Out of public.

Speaker 1 (01:26:08):
Also that's the other thing too, Like the the attachment
to these thermount is high profound.

Speaker 7 (01:26:15):
But and the only reason why she was really taken
kind of seriously was because she went to school. And
again we're playing these talent around our value systems and oh,
she's more valuable because she's getting her degree. You know
she It's like, listen, y'all, Beyonce was able to do
what she did because she's blond hair, she's beautiful, she's

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well spoken, she come from a quote unquote good family.
Even though you pulled a curtain from that. So like
again we're still playing these roles of like I have
to be the most upstanding black person or in order
to be humanized and then to be a woman and
go against the patriarchy or call it out in any

(01:26:58):
way she good luck.

Speaker 3 (01:27:00):
Good luck?

Speaker 6 (01:27:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:27:01):
Well, I mean, and it's weird too because there's like
an ideology misalignment in there too, right, because a lot
of those people who would shit on Meg will say
stuff like in other context, Well, there's a lot of
times honestly, like those niggas are. They might not be magnet,
but they're conservative thinking type people.

Speaker 2 (01:27:24):
Oh, the black community is far more, especially especially here
in the South.

Speaker 5 (01:27:29):
Right, So those people would say, well, why don't why
can't you just respect everybody's opinion?

Speaker 6 (01:27:34):
Why can't you just respect everybody's opinion? And I'm like, y'all.

Speaker 5 (01:27:36):
Niggas put more effort into respecting other people's opinion than
you do respecting people. And it's like, what are we
what are you trying to do here? We're trying to
make our specifically our community better and the world better
at large, or are we just.

Speaker 6 (01:27:53):
Trying to find the next person to punish.

Speaker 7 (01:27:56):
I'll be honest, I can't respect your opinion if your
your opinion is no longer your opinion, if it puts
me into people that I love at risk them.

Speaker 2 (01:28:03):
That's not an opinion, and it's it's.

Speaker 1 (01:28:08):
Why they say to ladies, if you're dating someone, to
literally look at or have the conversations about the person
you're dating.

Speaker 3 (01:28:15):
In their views on the Stallion, this is like you
go look through them tweets.

Speaker 1 (01:28:21):
How were they talking about Kamalo while she was running
for how they what are their thoughts on angel?

Speaker 7 (01:28:29):
I posted this and I said, I said, when all
this was going down, I said, ladies, this is a barometer.
Pay attention to how Yellow Dip is talking about this situation,
because if he.

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
Ain't talking about it in a way, that is what
other they tore me up?

Speaker 1 (01:28:53):
What other cultural things should we be I know politics
sometimes gets tricky, right, So culturally, what are some conversations
that black women should be having with their black counterparts
or men even not even black, just their their romantic partners.
What conversations should they be having to kind of gauge
if that is a safe space for them, clearly make

(01:29:14):
the stalliontry.

Speaker 3 (01:29:15):
Lanes have that conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:29:17):
And for me, puff if they're free Tory, puff in
what way.

Speaker 7 (01:29:23):
If you're calling if okay, if you are free Diddy,
you have lost your fucking mind.

Speaker 2 (01:29:29):
In my opinion, they've lost it. Now.

Speaker 7 (01:29:32):
If you want to discuss the nuances of should he
been put away on certain charges and what those and
what the laws stem from and all that, sure, but if.

Speaker 2 (01:29:43):
You saw that video and you read any of.

Speaker 7 (01:29:47):
Those transcripts of the it's not transcript excuse me, the
legal documentation, and you're still like, nah, bitch is trying
to get them. They out four dollar stay far love
miss me. I am super good on that.

Speaker 2 (01:30:05):
That's nuts.

Speaker 5 (01:30:05):
What about what other cultural The other person I would
say is probably Kevin Samuels, Okay, I think like he
think He's another one where it's like if you have
a conversation with somebody about that and they are sympathetic
to his cause, or they're saying certain things.

Speaker 7 (01:30:23):
They call themselves a high value, high value, a high value.

Speaker 5 (01:30:26):
As a male and all of the all the man's
sphere terms and all that shit. Like if you're diving
into that and you seem like you're kind of uh,
like I said, sympathetic to that whole organization, then it's like, yeah,
you're probably susy, Like you're probably putting yourself in danger
if you're a woman and has kids and the person

(01:30:47):
has some type of uh take on R Kelly, you
might want to be careful about having this person in
your life, around your family, around your daughters.

Speaker 6 (01:31:00):
With that, something's going.

Speaker 7 (01:31:02):
Like, that's real tricky for me kids or not? Are
you're you're just good with that?

Speaker 2 (01:31:08):
It's okay. You making excuses on that.

Speaker 3 (01:31:10):
You're right, You're right, You're right, Okay. I didn't want
to again.

Speaker 1 (01:31:14):
Politically, definitely their views on kam Layers running and why
or why not they would have or would not have
voted for her, Just to see their lens of how
they just view women in power or women.

Speaker 6 (01:31:26):
That are educator women that where.

Speaker 3 (01:31:29):
Is your mind?

Speaker 7 (01:31:29):
But if you say some ship like you know, they
shouldn't they should have had uh actual? What is it
convention to figure out who we should have put in
that position? I'm not mad at that because now you're
talking if you just like not vote for a woman.

Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:31:49):
Culturally I have to do this because of course I
want to know your your your thoughts on Boosy's decisions
in life.

Speaker 5 (01:31:58):
Oh yeah, your hand on the kid.

Speaker 1 (01:32:07):
I need to know if if you think that boys
should have grown women brought to them in their bedrooms
to get them out into the world and make the
men early.

Speaker 3 (01:32:18):
I need to know your views on the l g
B t Q I is.

Speaker 1 (01:32:22):
I need to know where do you stand with Boosie.
And I'm not talking about white me down. I ain't
talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:32:28):
The music, because y'all can shin me to that all
y'all want. I'm talking about the.

Speaker 1 (01:32:33):
Ways and the thoughts and his idea is mind you
being on blast payroll? Maybe his thoughts are infiltrating our
community at high rates because Blad getting abused.

Speaker 3 (01:32:44):
That's why that nigga gets interview. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:32:46):
I don't know min third all that time in jail,
k like he ain't really had since since that set
it off.

Speaker 5 (01:32:56):
And that's that is the set nine and a half
minutes coming now did.

Speaker 2 (01:33:01):
Not the boy.

Speaker 3 (01:33:04):
But that's what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (01:33:05):
But both sides get that.

Speaker 3 (01:33:07):
But currently he's not.

Speaker 1 (01:33:09):
Played outside of those three hits in the club from
a cultural lenso he is discussed almost weekly with some
some riteric.

Speaker 2 (01:33:17):
He's put out, I need to know and it's allan.

Speaker 3 (01:33:20):
And you need to know where you stand on it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:22):
And if you was a boosy ass nigga, because if
you were a Boosy type, if you are free Diddy type,
if you are free Tory type.

Speaker 6 (01:33:29):
I don't know, bro and I would and booth.

Speaker 5 (01:33:31):
I would put Boosy slash trick Daddy because there might
be some niggas who are on that trick Daddy.

Speaker 3 (01:33:36):
Just he's the president.

Speaker 1 (01:33:38):
Of the of the ass Eaton Club or whatever. He
set up for young Miami. So I'm not mad, but
maybe for the Miami.

Speaker 5 (01:33:46):
He has some wild ship to say about the the
president of Alpha Kappa Alpha so incorporateated.

Speaker 3 (01:33:54):
Not so nice things to say about all the lives.

Speaker 6 (01:33:57):
You don't like, none of the.

Speaker 2 (01:33:59):
Don't like, none of the Greeks.

Speaker 3 (01:34:01):
I just am not here for the hazing.

Speaker 6 (01:34:03):
Well that's why I can get with.

Speaker 1 (01:34:05):
I'm not here for the hazing. Well, y'all, Uh, we
ran over on time today. We're gonna keep it to
the Yeah, we were over, actually really were over. And
we are recording this on Sunday, y'all. So FIFA is
happening in thirty minutes tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:34:24):
Let's get it.

Speaker 6 (01:34:25):
Were not Argentina.

Speaker 3 (01:34:32):
However, you know they say it's rigged. They got.

Speaker 6 (01:34:36):
It's some very ship going on with Argentina and FIFA.

Speaker 7 (01:34:42):
There know about but the more it is.

Speaker 2 (01:34:53):
In the world. Yeah, yeah, shout out to Egypt. Listen.

Speaker 5 (01:34:59):
Yeah, I need some conquistadors too, but I need them
to hold it down tonight.

Speaker 6 (01:35:05):
We've run out of good.

Speaker 5 (01:35:06):
Options of countries to root for us, all colisers and
conquistadores now, so I'm choosing the lesson. I'm voting for
harm reduction. Yeah, and harm reduction means that Spain need
to whoop these niggas.

Speaker 6 (01:35:16):
Ass and Messy just have to cry about it.

Speaker 3 (01:35:18):
Yeah, heait it for you, So if you want to
hear the other thoughts, we.

Speaker 1 (01:35:22):
Are talking Comb's twins praising their father in the press
that they're doing for their new.

Speaker 3 (01:35:29):
Clothing line, and that will get kind of interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:35:32):
We'll do that with a King on the bonus episode,
and then back to talking Diddy DJ Webster, who is
a good friend of mine and I'm mad them mister
Chicken little Soup did what he did.

Speaker 2 (01:35:41):
I ain't know you was anyways.

Speaker 1 (01:35:44):
He talks about why Cassie and followed him following a
Diddy character letter that he wrote in defense of character.

Speaker 6 (01:35:50):
Putting your name on a Diddy character letter. That is insane.

Speaker 5 (01:35:55):
That's an insane I mean, I would love to you.

Speaker 1 (01:36:00):
Want to read and it was interesting because he when
he got deeper into the conversation, and I want you
to see the clip. If you're on Patron, I'll drop
the clips you I can see it. He goes into
insinuating that he's seen Cassie lay hands on him. So
in terms of the domestic violence of it, all both
parties were guilty. He claims that the character letter was

(01:36:22):
in defense that that rico of what took place shouldn't
have been and he wanted to keep him from the
rico charges. But he said all the domestic violence, he
kind of he saw both parties domestically violently touch each other.

Speaker 5 (01:36:39):
I know we're going to get into a deeper guys,
I just need to know right now, I'm googling in
the movie.

Speaker 6 (01:36:43):
I just need to know. Is he like is his
relationship with did he that close?

Speaker 3 (01:36:48):
He claims he was close.

Speaker 1 (01:36:49):
He claims he referred to Cassie as a sister and
did He's kids almost as his own. So there was
and even to refer to Cassie as your sister, but
defend her abewser.

Speaker 7 (01:36:58):
Tricky, tricky, it's a man right. I do not believe
in that right. I am under the impression though that
it is. It gets tricky because I'm like, I'm under
the I'm under the thought and this might be patriarchy.

Speaker 2 (01:37:17):
Yeah, I don't know, help me, but really.

Speaker 7 (01:37:20):
You shouldn't be hitting anybody back unless you need to
defend yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:37:26):
Like I don't think that.

Speaker 7 (01:37:28):
Like, if a woman hits you, right, tricky slaps you,
she's dead ass wrong. You can charge her, you can
do whatever you need to do, right, but to hit
her back, just to be like, bitch.

Speaker 2 (01:37:43):
Don't hit me, I'm gonna hit you back.

Speaker 7 (01:37:45):
I just I have an issue with that because there
is a discrepancy in strength there.

Speaker 2 (01:37:50):
It like we're not And she was also a kid
to me.

Speaker 7 (01:37:56):
I'm just like, anybody hit you, get the fuck out
of there, even to her. And she was trying to leave,
which is what makes it hard for me because I'm like,
she was trying to get away. You didn't see her
hitting him, But I don't think that there's for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:38:11):
If he said, I don't think that he's lying that
she might have hit him.

Speaker 7 (01:38:16):
Was there a need for him to hit her back,
or could he have left the way she was trying
to do.

Speaker 2 (01:38:20):
That's where that's where. That's what. More so what I'm trying.

Speaker 7 (01:38:23):
To say, like you could you have left gotten out of.

Speaker 2 (01:38:26):
That situation if you needed to hit her and she was.

Speaker 7 (01:38:29):
Hitting you with something that was that was really going
to harm you or lethal by all means self defense.

Speaker 2 (01:38:36):
I get it, we gonna get out of here.

Speaker 1 (01:38:41):
But I have one hundred thousand percent disagree with you, ladies.
If you put your hands on a nigga, he should
be able to hit your ass back.

Speaker 2 (01:38:48):
I do not like the thing anybody should to try
to leave.

Speaker 7 (01:38:52):
I think a man should get the fuck out of
there if you can, sure don't hit back, get out.

Speaker 2 (01:38:59):
I also think that katy hitting people and.

Speaker 1 (01:39:01):
I have and yes I'm talking to quite a few
of my friends. You have using as bitches. If you
keep thinking you can lay your hands and he not
supposed to hit your ass back, boo, you're wrong. And
so like there's there's a tricky element here because I've
had a lot of friends that because their women think
that like they almost probably yeah, I'll be I'll be
beating all my niggas, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:39:25):
And there's women absolutely domestic.

Speaker 1 (01:39:27):
There are women out here they just feel like they
can get away.

Speaker 3 (01:39:31):
With laying their hands on niggas because they not as
strong as them. And I don't believe that men should
not to take that on.

Speaker 2 (01:39:37):
I want to be I want to be clear.

Speaker 7 (01:39:38):
The only reason why I brought up strength was because
you have the option to get out. If you feel
as a man you can, you can probably get away
from her. If you can't, you have to do what
you can to fend her off. And if it's hitting
her and you can't get her to stop, I understand that.
But like again, Cassie was trying to leave puff if
she hit you tried, did you try.

Speaker 2 (01:39:58):
To leave or did you just win? Yeah? You see
what I mean, Like there is a difference.

Speaker 1 (01:40:02):
Is different if woman just slaps you. No, No, ladies,
keep your mother hands.

Speaker 6 (01:40:09):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:40:10):
Everybody, I ain't gonna hold you because I'm on the
part where clarify that. And if you laying your hands
on a nigga, I'm here for him to lay his
hands back on your ass.

Speaker 3 (01:40:19):
I don't give a fuck.

Speaker 7 (01:40:20):
No, I don't, Like I'm here for everybody to try
to leave. Anybody hit you, try to get the fuck
out of it.

Speaker 1 (01:40:26):
You know, like yourself be cutting up and and you
always say they ain't got their ass whooped good enough.

Speaker 3 (01:40:33):
That's how I like, Unfortunately, that's how I look at it.

Speaker 1 (01:40:36):
Like when someone runs around and it's a fucking minute,
Oh they ain't get their ass whoop.

Speaker 3 (01:40:39):
Growing up, Oh they didn't get like you.

Speaker 7 (01:40:42):
Hit your man and he and I found out he
hit you as big as strong as he is, I
would lose my fucking mind because he could have easily left,
easily probably gotten out that situation.

Speaker 1 (01:40:53):
You know, it's crazy, and this is why I deal
or if he didn't try, this is why I deal
with men his.

Speaker 3 (01:40:59):
Size, bru, I can't beat you.

Speaker 1 (01:41:01):
I would never hit a nigga that, but I've never
I've never if it gets even my friends, I've never
fist fault a friend. If I get to the point
where this has to get physical, this is over. I'm
not a physical person. I grew up watching that ship.
I don't believe that that's love. I don't believe we.

Speaker 3 (01:41:18):
Get past that. If you calls once, you calls bodily harmed.
To me, it's a rap.

Speaker 1 (01:41:23):
And so this also probably comes from me being in
my own bubble. I've never experienced domestic violence, thank god.
But so my lens comes from I am disgusted at
my friends who talk about hitting men the.

Speaker 3 (01:41:35):
Way that they do.

Speaker 6 (01:41:36):
Well, Listen, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:41:38):
A normal thing when I say and hold on and
a bitch from Florida and a lot of my friends
from the South, and they almost brag about that. They
brag about how they haven't had one partner that they
haven't put.

Speaker 2 (01:41:49):
He they't realize it. It's domestic violence.

Speaker 1 (01:41:51):
Yes, And I have to talk with them and I
look at them and I was like, that's fucking disgusting,
and they be like, I know it's.

Speaker 3 (01:41:56):
Wrong, but you know my anger, bro. They talk about
it like niggas talk about it.

Speaker 1 (01:42:04):
And I can't sit here and defend you. You can't
sit here and talk to me. I know you're an abuser,
and that's not fair to those men that have to
take on your punches until you're done hitting them.

Speaker 6 (01:42:15):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:42:16):
I'm not saying that that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:42:17):
But there's a lot of women that operate that way
and I just can't. And literally, I was talking to
my friend, but girl, he made me. Oh, and that's
what the men that hit on him and say, he
made me so mad?

Speaker 6 (01:42:30):
What he made you hit him?

Speaker 4 (01:42:32):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:42:33):
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