Ep. 79 | Liar, Liar, 49er - Selective Ignorance with Mandii B

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance. However,
before we get to this week's episode, I want to
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(00:23):
wherever you read your books. Again, that is No Holds Barred,
a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power written by
yours truly, and my co-host of the Decisions Decisions podcast, Wheezy.
Make sure y'all get that. Now let's get to this
week's episode. This is Mandy B. Welcome to Selective Ignorance,
a production of the Black Effect Podcast Network and iHeartRadio. Ayo,

(00:45):
welcome to episode 79 of the Selective Ignorance Podcast with me,
your host, Mandy B. And per usual, babe, we are
getting into all of the things this week. Of course,
up first, we got our Ignorant Takes of the Week,
where I ask, does race play a matter in everything, in.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
All of our thoughts, everywhere we go, everything we do?
Of course. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
I got a thought, and so does Jah. Then up first,
and this is America, y'all. Target is facing backlash yet
again after a children's Halloween clown costume sold under its
hide and seek boutique brand was called out for imagery.
Critics say closely resembles historic blackface. Is Target just playing
in our face or is this why.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
They needed DEI? Fuck your couch, nigga.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
We'll get into all the things plus Viola Davis's response.
We then talk about a very local thing that happened
in the ATL. After a deadly stabbing on the Beltline
led to questions around what justice really looks like and
how our system fails us in terms of people battling
mental health.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Then two people, y'all, went viral.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
They've gone viral because people is liars out here. Apparently
when you get on the internet, you can be whoever
you want to be. And then that leads us into,
this is not a sports podcast, but former athlete TJ
Ford does not find Drewski's new skit funny and claims
that CTE is the only disease that gets joked on.

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Then guys, Kwanzaa Jones, a new black owner of the Padres,
said that after being ignored and underestimated, she still chose
to donate to her alma mater, Princeton.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Well, guess what?

Speaker 1 (02:34):
People felt a way about that because it's giving. Why
do you want the acceptance of white people?

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Come on now, dawg.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Then, of course, last but not least, if celebrities say
the darndest things, these celebrities didn't say much because they
are no longer with us.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. We didn't even get to the
ignorant moment. Was that too much? Put that out. We can't.
This is going to be a fucking not-for-profit podcast. Celebrities
say the deadest things. Like, God damn. Wow. Hey, guys,

(03:10):
welcome to Selection Ignorance. Y'all cut all this shit out. No.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
We are cooking with grease. Wait, I didn't say the grease. Oh, shit.
That was Dolly. That was Dolly. I heard that, Heffa.
I heard what you said. I heard what you said. Wow. Cut.
That was a cut.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
That was a cut.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
See?

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yo. Y'all don't like my introduction. All I heard was
God damn it. Yo, you can't make that up. Oh,
my God. Well, basically, we just don't have much celebrity.
You got some sage in here? Are y'all serious? And
do not edit me out.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
I thought that that was, first off, comedy, guys.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
No, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Not deaf. no first off there's bad people that died
from cte and that's why old boy said we'll get into.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
That it depends on how you die i mean i
didn't say that either yo i know this one oh
man i wasn't ready.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
We are green light is on i will always be
checked by the guys.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Right we are going we are green light go and
she said it like we are green light go.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Y'all I got the OG pod legend to my right
I got A-King and then I got the king of
headlines Jay Zajali I'm not gonna I'm railroading this because
what the fuck guys dead flowers what we're no we're
gonna give flowers she's got her flowers before she passed
absolutely we're not doing that let's wait till we get
all the way there okay.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Guys Working nine to five.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
We actually are working nine to five today.

Speaker 5 (04:48):
We are.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
We actually are working nine to five today. We are
putting in the time. We are putting in the time, y'all.
God bless all the yet niggas. What's up?

Speaker 1 (04:57):
It's crazy because I just saw you guys. We was outside.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
We had a good time. I enjoyed that evening.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
We was outside.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Some hip hop.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
We was outside with the hippity hopper.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Don't do that. What? It sounds condescending. Y'all are hippity hoppers.
I mean, you are. Hip hop.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
We went out a couple days ago. Shout out to
Nyla Simone.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
Shout out to Nyla Simone. Shout out to Honor Roll.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Honor Roll, she released a project with a lot of
dope up-and-coming rappers. Some rappers that y'all may or may
not have heard of. Essentially, it's dope. So this project
is like.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
What we know Khaled to do.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Right?

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Yeah, for burgeoning artists, for up-and-coming artists.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
For buzz-worthy. Buzz-worthy artists. Yeah, for buzz-worthy artists.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
The people that those.

Speaker 6 (05:45):
People be ignoring because they on their soapbox.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Well, I also know that we have an older demo,
so I'm not sure if they would.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Know a lot of the people that perform.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
You're right, you're right.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
But I do want to shout out the performers because
I thought that everyone was, I was like, ooh, this
is giving blog air.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
It was really dope.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
So, Nico Brim, Ben Reilly, Marco Plus, Ruben Vincent, Jordan Bell,
Be Different, who opened up. Did I forget anybody?

Speaker 2 (06:15):
That performer. I think that's the majority. Oh, Suave.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
Shout out to Suave. Suave was on there.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Yeah, shout out Suave.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
And it was dope.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah, no, I had a good time. Me too. And
my thing with artists like that is like, any artist,
but with artists that are young, I need to, if
I listen to the music and I hear the song
and I like it, then I can appreciate that. But
I can't fully buy in until I see it. I
got to see you on stage. I got to see
if you're really that person on stage as you are

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on that microphone in that studio.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
And I feel like everybody who showed up on that stage, like,
put it down. And you can see where the talent goes.
You can see, like, oh, okay, these could be the
future stars of the genre that we love on whatever level.
Not just Billboard top 40 hits, but, like, People that
have long and stable careers and build real fan bases,

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similar to how J. Cole has, and have that kind
of presence inside the genre.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
So I was- And I've.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Listened to Nico Brim and Ben Reilly. Did I go
with you to Ben Reilly's album release party?

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah, shout out to Keys Open Door. Yeah. Oh, shout
out to Key.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
Yeah, I haven't seen Key in a minute.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
She manages him. But yeah, Ben Reilly. I was at
Mean Streets. At Mean Street, yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
I've been a fan of him since before I moved
to Atlanta. So it was really dope to see him.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
It was really.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Dope to just hear rappers that like have something to say.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
And it's not just drug, lean, shooting, drill.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Auto-tune, croon, singing.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
No, they was rapping.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah, they have perspectives.

Speaker 6 (07:48):
Well, I think part of it is who is in
that big shot of the Nyla. I think you have
to have people aggregating. There's a lot of artists that
do that too.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
That probably is not what she's trying to curate.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Right.

Speaker 6 (08:03):
And I think the more, and this is going back
to our conversation about the blog era, the more you
have different people aggregating, we get to see a full spectrum.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Of dope artists.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
And I just want to just, I hate to be
that guy. I wouldn't say young. I would say new. Wait,
what do you mean? Fair. Because a lot of them
aren't young.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
They're not young.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
But because they've been grinding for a minute, so. They're like,
but they're like late 20s. Well, wait, somewhere in their 30s?
The thing is, about rap, about hip hop in particular,
is I focus on the new part versus the young part.
The age. Because a lot.

Speaker 6 (08:41):
Of these guys have started out when they were 18.
You know, they say it took 10 years to be
an overnight success.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Right.

Speaker 6 (08:46):
They're pushing 29, 30. So that's still young relatively in
terms of hip hop because of how music is dispersed now.
We're not going to the labels no more. as we
used to in the 90s and 2000s. Get a deal
and then take three or four years. Ruben Vincent was signed.
to Jamla through 9th Wonder since he was like 18
years old.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Well, he was the one I was going to bring up.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
He's 25 now. He made me feel old as dirt
because I just assumed, I didn't, I know he wasn't 30,
but I assumed that he was in his like later 30s.
And when we were talking to him backstage and when
he said he was 25. Oh, Kaj Cash. Kaj Cash, yeah.
Shout out to Kaj Cash. Kaj Cash came through with
the linen. I'm like.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
But, but yeah, when, when Ruben Vincent was, was talking
to you, it was, it was interesting, even though he's 25,
hearing him fan out a bit and expressing how he
was listening to you on the Combat Jack show.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
And he was, what, in high school at that point?
He had to be young. I took a moment, too.
I'm like.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
He literally was sitting there like, yo, I used to
listen to you in high school and things like that.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
That's a crazy thing to hear.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Because that was, what, 10 years ago now? Yeah. Easily.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
So, like.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Hearing him, like, come up and is like, yo, like,
I really... That was dope. Those moments are dope. And it's... dope.
I think in those moments, we can't underestimate the work
we do.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
Right.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
We might not get the shit in the moment. We
go out and about.

Speaker 6 (10:09):
People may give it up. But this is forever now.
What you're doing is forever. What you're doing is forever.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
So shout out to them. And also, I'll say this
just to add on. The young people get a lot
of flack for not giving a fuck or not being
involved or not understanding the culture or not keeping the thing,
certain tenets that we hold sacred alive. But when it
comes down to it, I think what Nyla has helped
curate and hopefully help people understand is that the kids

(10:37):
are going to be all right. Oh, yeah. Because there
are younger people, whether they're in their 30s or mid-20s
or whatever, that actually do give a fuck.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
They actually are involved in this culture.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
That know about the Combat Jack show that aren't ignorant
to what's going on out here. I'm just curious, seeing that...
Hold on, hold on, wait. And then we backstage, the
crazy shit, they got the wall, all of the talent,
and then boom. And then this nigga. Mandy's on the board.
You know what I mean? the wall of fame at
Buckhead Theater I mean I've.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Only sold out Buckhead Theater twice you know talk.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
To them talk to them talk to.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Them I love they had our lanyard in a frame
backstage so that was dope niggas.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Got the nerve to be in the comments who are
y'all doing all the talking nigga them them them them niggas.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Them them them them alright well I was just gonna
say as we're talking to wrap this up about like
where we're at this week there was also a lot
of R & B acts that canceled their tour.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
So for me, it's interesting.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Right now to see, okay, we know they're not making
money from streaming. Now tours are being canceled, which is
the bread and butter for a lot of artists.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Where is the money.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
Going to come from then?

Speaker 2 (11:48):
No, that's real. Where is it going to come from?

Speaker 1 (11:50):
We've seen the girlies at one point getting the brand deals.
Those have slowed down a bit too, unless you're massive.
So to me, it's going to be interesting how we
see them I mean, with the music, but the music
can be good. It's the industry. It's not just about
the music because if they're selling the music, but we as,

(12:10):
as consumers are consuming it through streams, which we know
we're not buying the albums anymore, which is why they're
doing the vinyls and stuff.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
But merch, that's only going to get you so far.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Merch only gets you so far. And unless you're like,
Larry June and how he has capsules and all that.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Yeah, now you have to be a fashion designer to
make music. To even generate money. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
But then you're not even going on tour. Like, it's Raven, Black,
Isaiah Fall. I'm salty about that Black tour, too. Who
else just canceled? There was quite a few, like, tours
that just.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Hey, y'all. Well, I think those artists, they got to
go small, man. There's still new artists.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Yeah, I wasn't sure how big those venues were.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Those artists should be having a tour with three or
four of those acts together rather than doing individual. And
if they are doing individuals, go small. Yeah, 200 person rooms. Yeah,
this is where we at. Yeah, but that shit's expensive.
And then you chose for free. That's the other part.
But then the money is not there. Right.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Or in order to pay everybody, the tickets have to
be even higher, which means people can't attend because of
the economy.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Well, hopefully that's also what Nyla is helping to foster
is the strength in numbers. Hopefully all of those artists
continue to do that and say, okay, not all of
us have to go on tour together necessarily, but three
or four of us combine and go on and try
to make it feasible for everyone to get paid. Because

(13:42):
to your point, it's going to get tough to do
this as a profession full time if you can't go
on tour and you can't sell no records.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
How are you going to do this?

Speaker 2 (13:51):
That's what I'm saying. I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 6 (13:53):
And the value of collaboration, because all of those kids,
all the guys that was on that stage, a lot
of them cross collaborating, done records.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
They've done shows together.

Speaker 6 (14:01):
I think when you go to the XXL, and I'm
not throwing no shade on them, but when you see
them do the Freshman cover... They just show up, do
the thing, do the cypher, and that's it. There's no
cross-pollination with those artists. Well, that was the dope thing
about the lineup.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
If you noticed it, our artists would go on stage,
do their set, their last song would end with.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
A collab-o, and then the other artist comes out.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
It was dope.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
It was smart.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
And that showed the relationship. The relationship, yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
It was very smart. Very, very smart.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Well, let's get to some ignorant shit.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Lord have mercy.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Some more ignorant shit.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Let's start with you. We can start with you, John.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
Start with me.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Okay. So... Yesterday, I appeared on Victor Blackwell's show, first
of all, on CNN. And when you do these shows,
they send you prep ahead of time. Here are the topics.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Here's the people you're going to be on with.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Anytime I get one of those emails, I immediately look
to see who those people are. Do you... Is there... Why?

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Is there someone you wouldn't sit across from? Or it's
just because you want to prepare yourself?

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Well, truthfully, some of them I don't know. So I
want to find out. I won't necessarily turn down the appearance,
but I want to know who I'm up there with.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
What are you going to be on?

Speaker 2 (15:08):
I'm looking at the topic, so I need to know, okay,
I can kind of figure out where you're going to stand.
So as I'm Googling the people... Trying to see who
they are. One of the women canceled at the last minute.
We had to have someone else come on, a guy
named Edward Ahmed, who is part of a group called
CARE that is basically the NAACP for Muslim folks. Okay.

(15:31):
They do civil rights activism and all that kind of
stuff for Muslim people who are being discriminated against and
that kind of thing. But one of the women, name
is Janelle King. Okay. Janelle King is a conservative, political
operative of some kind. I think she's married to a
gentleman who is looking to run for office as a

(15:53):
Republican in Georgia.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
So when I.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Saw that, I was like, okay, I know what she's on.
So I go to her Instagram page and she's got
all the talking points. Oh, trans people are mentally deficient
and they need whoopty whoopty whoop and all of this.
And so I already knew based on the subject matter
that we were talking about that day, what she was
going to be on.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
I didn't expect to be as bothered.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
By her As you were? As I was in real time. And, like,
I had to remind myself, like, we're not on the pod.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
We on CNN.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
So, like, I can respond to her, but I got
to keep it clean. I can't cuss her out. I
can't say all the wild shit. You could be, like,
all CNN how you are here.

Speaker 7 (16:32):
No?

Speaker 2 (16:33):
No, I can be how I am, but I can't, like,
I would say certain words and make more emphatic points
than I might have made on here. She bothered you
with which topic? So we got to talking about Kehinde Wiley.
Kehinde Wiley is an artist. He has one of his
paintings up at the U.S. Embassy in the Dominican Republic.

(16:55):
And the Trump administration, along with his, you know, cohort
of fucking ass lickers, decided that they want to remove
this painting from the U.S.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Embassy.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
The painting is just for Dominican people. It's two women
standing in front of each other, kind of holding hands.
It's two men sitting on the ground. And so we
got to talking about this issue and we can drop
the clip. This is what she said about this painting
and why she believes it is so important.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
When I saw the picture, I think it's a horrible picture.
I'm going to tell you why. My issue is because
I think we're going through a, particularly with black and
brown people, I think we're going through a weird phase
where there's a emasculation of men. And so when I
look at that picture and I see men sitting on
the ground in almost in like a mermaid seated position,
like a female position, and then I see women standing

(17:48):
up with the fists like we're strong. To me, for me,
when I look at it, it's sending a message that
men should be sitting and women should be standing and
And for me, I believe I have a very traditional
perspective of this.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
I believe that men are who lead your home.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
I believe that men are the ones who kind of
set the foundation for the home and particularly our black
men are absent in the home. So we need to
bring them back and it needs to come with producing
more confidence. That picture to me does not show any
type of confidence that we have in our black men.
It looks like you need to be sitting on the ground,
bowing down to us and women need to be standing strong.

(18:22):
And we're the ones that's leading everything and leading our home.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
You got all of that out of this?

Speaker 2 (18:27):
100%. So I'm glad that Victor chimed in because I
was about to go smooth off and he wanted to
address the thing in real time so that we understood.
So you're saying that this picture is about emasculating the
black man. The part that we didn't play, she said
basically that this is the same thing as Confederate statues.

(18:48):
Like people get mad at Confederate statues and we can't
tell people how to feel. So like, This is too,
you can't tell people who are offended by this that
there's any different than Robert E. Lee or slave masters
who have statues. She was wildin' on this show. She's conservative,
but she's not MAGA, right? I'm pretty sure she's MAGA.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
But even that, to be fair, looking at the painting
to talk about men now sitting down and women standing
is the emasculation of Black men, which honestly, as we
talk about where the conversations go to where Black men
are in the house and how they show up with
confidence is also the growth of emotional intelligence, right? And

(19:30):
the growth of them being able to Speak their feelings.
Share it with their partners. We also know that women
are still technically leading the household. While men are bringing
in the bread and butter as the head of household,
the women are still leading the household in terms of
raising the children, the domestic chores, being a partner.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Of the family unit. The family affair, yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
As a Black woman, to also sit up there and
say that we need to be bringing Black men into
the homes, her getting all of that.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
From this picture.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
Is disgusting because to me it also shows her, it
shows me her thoughts on what the Black family unit
is to her.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
It's coming from a place, right? It's coming from a
very specific place. But the thing is, I.

Speaker 6 (20:13):
Can't be, me personally, I can't be mad at it
because she clearly said This is how she views it.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
I think we have to accept that that's just her idea.
That's her philosophy.

Speaker 6 (20:23):
The thing is, though, I don't think that picture is
going to change how a household operates. All the things
you just mentioned in the Caribbean home, they call it brotopsy, right?

Speaker 3 (20:34):
How you were brought up. Correct.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
I don't think if someone's son sees that or a father.

Speaker 6 (20:41):
They're not going to sit there with that shit for
10 years and then let that shit seep and change however.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
No, it's like you look at it.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Oh, that's a cool piece of art.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
What did you see when you saw it? Keep it pushing.
When I saw, I just saw, well, first off, I
just see Dominican people. Like I see the women maybe
are a queer couple and the men are just. That's
how you viewed it. Yeah. I mean, I was a
little close.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
I was going to say orgy.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
It was giving orangey to me, alcohol to me, hold
on a minute.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
It was giving, the women was about to dom the
hell out of them niggas though.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Maybe. And I don't know feminine relationships, because don't do that,
because men can be switches.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
But when I saw that, I was like, oh, this
is giving a foursome.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
They about to have some fun.

Speaker 6 (21:26):
That's why she feels how she feels. She don't want
that for her black men. Well, first off, Black men.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
No, we should be in a place where we are
all exploring sexually and that's not looked down upon. She
took it into gender roles and emasculation of Black men.
This actually looks very liberating to me. For the women
to be standing, for the men to be.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Comfortable. They're comfortable.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
Sitting on the ground. And so the point that I
made after this was that, A.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
There's a lot of people who sat down. You know
who sat down? The kids at SNCC who did the sit-ins.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
You know who sat down?

Speaker 2 (21:59):
Rosa Parks. That's literally what I said. I said Rosa
Parks sat her ass down too. Sitting down is not
a sign of being weak or feeble or emasculated. And moreover,
which I didn't get to say on CNN, is that
if you look at that picture and that makes you
feel emasculated, that means you was a bitch-ass nigga already
and you just don't like being reminded that you're a
bitch-ass nigga by looking at a painting. But nobody in

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the world is going to look at that photo and
be like, damn. I guess my place in society is
supposed to be on the ground. But what makes it
worse is that I got a real time... I don't
be around these black conservative people like that. But I
got a real time look at how they think. Because
in the green room, as we're walking to set, the
Muslim brother comes in and she says, I have an

(22:42):
ignorant question to ask you.

Speaker 7 (22:44):
Oh, no.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
She on selective ignorance.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
Oh, no.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
It was literally the first thing that came to my mind.
She got ignorant taste. She got ignorant taste. She said...
What is the difference between Islamic religion and the Nation
of Islam? And I said, are you fucking serious? Because
I talked to my Muslim friend.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Her knowing that she was about to sit on a
panel with a Muslim.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
What did he say?

Speaker 1 (23:07):
She had that question before she got there.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
He played it regular with her. He was like, no,
that's not the same thing. The Nation of Islam is...
one thing, the Islamic religion is another. Muslim is another thing.
Not everyone who's Muslim is part of the nation of Islam. So, okay,
because I talked to my Muslim friends and some of
them feel very different about it. And I was like,
all right, man, whatever. Like, this lady is so dumb.

(23:30):
But what she said also in the break, as we're
continuing this conversation, she talks about feelings and like, oh,
everyone has these feelings about other things. We can't legislate racism.
We don't know what's in people's hearts. so we can't
just call people racist. I said, so we can't just
call people racist when they do racist things, but you

(23:51):
look at that painting and you draw all of that
shit out of it at the same time. I was like,
make that make fucking sense. And shit is like, I
was just like, wow. Y'all was having this conversation off. Yeah,
like after we went to break, it continued on. So
she's a reasonable, she converts as well. I don't know
if she converses well, but she's trying to stand on
her Republican talking points. And those of us on the

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panel who are pushing back on the things that she
was saying... I think.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
That's my problem. You could have feelings, you could have opinions,
you could have thoughts about certain things. But when it's
very clear that your lens... is so straight and narrow.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Myopic, narrow-minded. You saying that it's Republican talking points.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
That's 100%.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
You're coming in attaching this point to what you know
because now you have to be a parakeet.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
The first topic that we talked about was voting rights
and how Trump is trying to use the United States
Postal Service to keep people from getting mail-in ballots. He
wants the Postal Service to decide who's actually eligible to
vote and not send them a mail-in ballot. The first
thing she said out of her mouth is, well, I
think we can all agree that no one illegal should be.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
Voting, right? And I'm like.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
The law is the law. We already know that. If
you're not a citizen, you can't vote. So why are
you going out of your way to try to get
niggas to agree with... You see what I'm saying? She
was playing these games. She's trying to get that approval.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
We can all agree that no one illegal should vote.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Well, duh. Duh, that's the law. They're not citizens. They're
not citizens. You're overstating the obvious. The obvious. But she's
using that to try to get... And I was watching
the technology happen in real time and I'm like, Oh,
she's really on that.

Speaker 6 (25:26):
So, watching the clip, before you guys went on, did
y'all have any conversation prior to that?

Speaker 2 (25:32):
I knew who she was. In the green room, it
was me and her who arrived first. I didn't say
a word to her the whole time. You see how
this nigga look her up and down? Oh, I got
so many text messages yesterday. She was like, he was like,
I got so many text messages from people like, yo,
your face was crazy. And I'm like, I don't know

(25:53):
what else to do.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
They have conservative talking points. Do you not protect black women?

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah, with honesty.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
I didn't like how long that pause was.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
No, well, I had to think about what you were saying.
It's Mandy B. You know, you got to make sure. No,
you are very smart and intelligent in how you... So
we want to make sure... I'm talking about the... Wait
a second. I didn't talk about y'all protecting me. No,
I'm saying... Oh, I forgot. What you're asking me is
that if somebody.

(26:25):
No, but what you're asking me is that if I'm
on a panel with a conservative and they say something
stupid about black people, am I going.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
To push back?

Speaker 1 (26:31):
A conservative black woman.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah, absolutely. But that was my whole MO. People was
texting me like, oh, I could tell she pissed you off. Oh,
your face was crazy. A million people hit me up
because I can't hold that back. When I'm hearing something stupid,
I don't have but so much patience to deal with
something stupid without saying something to you. And she's running
for what? No, she's not running for anything. She has

(26:55):
her own little talk show podcast or whatever. And then
her husband is running for... Yeah, he's Black.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
Okay. Okay.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Well, it's funny that, you know, we're talking about that. Conservative, Blacks, Whites, Republicans, Democrats.
I had the ignorant thought about whether or not anything
in America could be done without the thought of race.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
And.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
It was because I went to the Braves game last week.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
And in going to the Braves game in Atlanta, Georgia,
one of the blackest cities in the country, boy is
America's sport not very black.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
And this may also just.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Be different because I've gone to two other stadiums. I've
gone to, is it the Marlins?

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah, in Miami. Okay.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
And, of course, Yankee Stadium. And I've been to the Mets.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
I've gone to baseball games. And New York is.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Very brown if you go to a Yankees game. Miami
is very brown if you go to a Marlins game.
In Atlanta, I was just expecting to see more us,
and there was not. And upon entering, it was the
most lax security system that I have ever went through

(28:13):
walking into... a goddamn sporting event.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Now, if you guys have never been to an Atlanta game,
it's at the Battery. My homegirl walked in with a
drink from another establishment.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
Yep. She walked into.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Even when it's open container if you go to New
Orleans tricky as to if you're able to walk.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Into with your drink from another establishment from someone else's
right we literally just.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
Walked into the goddamn stadium with drinks um they didn't
open up either of our purses no bags there's already
a purse limit size okay we but they didn't look
in it right we walked right in I was like
bitch what the fuck?

Speaker 3 (28:57):
I can have anything on me right now.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
And so here I go seeing all these white people
realizing how lax the security check was. Now, if I
was at the clerk and I look around and we
realized it wasn't very security checked, I might be a
little scared.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Right.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
I felt that way even though it was all white
people because we're in the South. So I was like, bruh,
everybody I feel like in this stadium owns a gun.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
Probably. Probably. Probably. That's a good guess.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
Did you have any signs up saying... No guns?

Speaker 2 (29:30):
I didn't even see that.

Speaker 5 (29:31):
No guns.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
I don't need to.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Was there any standard metal detectors? Did you walk through anything?

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Yeah, but I have my camera on me, which normally
gets checked at State Farm.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
They're definitely going to open that bitch up.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
If you go to State Farm, before you go in,
you see nothing but bins of vapes.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
You see nothing but lighters.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
So there's things. My Osmo, y'all remember, we went to
the Celtics game. It got checked.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Thoroughly checked. Thoroughly. As if he was Al Qaeda with
the motherfucking camera.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
So knowing that Again, and I'm like, not a vape,
not a bin of nothing taken. And I was like, damn,
so lighters, vapes, my camera didn't go off, forget check.
And I was just like, is it because this is
an establishment of mostly white people that the security was
this lax? Is it because they don't have issues? And

(30:28):
I'm just trying to think, do they have issues at
State Farm like that? Do they have issues?

Speaker 2 (30:31):
And I was just, and I literally was like, damn.
I wonder if.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
It's because it's a mostly white attendance.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Where was that? Atlanta Braves State. They in Truist, right? Yeah.

Speaker 6 (30:42):
Was it always in that? Was Atlanta Braves always in that?
It used to be in the South. It used to
be on the South Side.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Ted Turner Stadium and Braves Stadium was right in down.
In the hood. In the hood. And when they were
in the process of trying to get the stadium up
to Cobb County, a lot of people were against it because-
The Braves fans are largely in the city, on the
South Side. It was Black people who were going to
these games. If you move the game out to Cobb County,

(31:12):
it's an all-white area.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
Marta doesn't run out there.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Not only does Marta not run out there, let me
also share with y'all who are not Atlanta natives, never
been to Atlanta, don't be in Atlanta much. Cobb County,
if you are Black, People know not to even drive
through Cobb County.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
Don't fuck with Cobb County.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
The cops will literally pull you over for being black.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Cobb County.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Cobb County is one of those counties within the city
limits that people are like, oh, you live in Cobb?
I'm not going out there. Or when you go out there,
you follow... all the stop.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Signs, all the red lights.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
10-2, seatbelts.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Do not speed in Cobb. And so it's interesting because
I don't think I realized that that was that county.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
There's two acronyms for Cobb. Cobb, for those who are listening,
is C-O-B-B. Yes. So there's two acronyms for Cobb. The
first one that the police used to promote was count
on being busted. Oh. Come to Cobb County, you can
count on being busted. For black people, Cobb County stood
for come on back, boy.

Speaker 7 (32:08):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
So, like.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Yeah. Both of those kind of work hand in hand of, like, hey,
you know when you go out there, them white folks
don't want you out there. They don't want you fucking
around with their little white-ass municipalities. They don't play that
shit out there. Don't fuck on their daughters. Don't fuck
on their daughters. I felt that.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
Don't be at their bars.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
So, let me ask y'all. Is there anything in life...
And it's funny because I also sent the clip in
the group chat.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
It was... Damn.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
I can pull it up or we can insert it.
But basically... they were saying it was a flight from
Atlanta or to Atlanta and going to like the Midwest.
And they were saying that they don't see any black people,
but the only time they see black people is on
the flight going back to Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
Going back home. Going back home to Atlanta. That's the thing.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
And I was just like, damn, is there anything that
we do in life where race is just never crosses
your mind? Because to me, even when you go into restaurants,
Certain establishments, you get the service, the decor, all that.
I'm like, ooh, this is black owner, sure. This is, where's, oh,
there's black staff, there's white staff.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Even when I go to house. Right.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
All of the people in the front of the house
are white.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
If you go over to certain places in the Buckhead,
all the front of house is white.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
I think you answered the question.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Everything in life, you can't ignore race.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
And it's always been that way. It's been that way
for a long time. Is it for us?

Speaker 3 (33:34):
For us.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Is it for us, though? For them.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Do you think white people ever go in and always
think of race? Because white people are all.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
Yes, I think they do.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
You think white people do, too? I think sometimes they'll
go in... Is everything in life, though? I think... No. No,
not everything in life. But we do, right? Because they
can stay within... I do.

Speaker 6 (33:48):
I can't help it. They can stay within those... quote unquote,
their areas, like Cobb County, and be cool.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
They don't have to have If they're going into the
city of Atlanta, they're thinking about, they're like, damn, should
I be an ally today? You know? Or do I
have to, because sometimes I open the door, like if
I'm in the gas station, I open the door, I do, like,
if a white man is coming through, I don't play
that shit. They'll say, oh, thank you.

Speaker 6 (34:13):
And I see they got the Blue Lives Matter tag
on them.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Like, he ain't going to say thank you.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Have y'all seen the other content creator currently? It's two black...
It's either a black girl and a black guy or
two black girls. But they're doing a thing where they're
being recorded walking and as they pass white people, they.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Clutch their purse.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
They clutch their bag.

Speaker 4 (34:36):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Even... But even that, he went on a plane and
he's like, he said, give up your seat if you're
fucking black people. And everybody's looking back. I'm like, ain't
nobody give up that seat.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
For the one, he was all the way in the
back of the plane. And he was like, hey, if
you're not racist, let the black people off first.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
And he walked all the way from like 38 F.
all the way out.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
And he said, if you move, you're racist. Like, let
the black people off first.

Speaker 6 (35:03):
It was one I saw yesterday. A woman was, she
was in her coupe, a white lady. And he said,
give me a ride around the corner and show me
you're not racist. And she let him in the car
and he went to a sneaker shop. And she was like,
I love your content. But that's, that is a microcosm
of what, of how we.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Have to exist.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
But yeah, I literally was there and I felt like,
because I was like, damn, like, you don't even get
treated like a criminal just walking in here because you're white.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
But at State Farm, everyone that.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Comes in, they think that we don't even blow shit up.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
The white people do. Like, I'm literally like, wait, mass shooters, bombs.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
I'm thinking the white Confederate niggas, they doing the lynching.
I'm like, we are literally, I'm in a stadium full
of races that would be criminals. Yet, Oh, let me
also end with the privilege of how they're even able
to talk. So me and my best friend, we're out.
We leave early because I've never made it past more

(36:03):
than seven innings.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Yeah, it's hard.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
It is so long.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
You probably got to go fourth inning and then carry
on again. It's so long. Three and a half, almost
four hours for some of these games. I don't got that.
How long can I eat popcorn and peanuts? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Enough Cracker Jacks in.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
The world for me to sit here.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
And I did have Cracker Jacks.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
So we're out after... We run into these two white guys.
They're brothers. They start sharing their whole life story. They
want my friend to take a picture. They're like, oh,
where do we go to drink?

Speaker 2 (36:30):
We're talking about drinks.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
And when I say it turned dark real quick and
got so weird. So the brother, and I guess, like
I said, they were drunk and joking.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
That's how it starts.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
All I know is one of them.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Started to laugh and was like, yeah, because he's fighting
a case on pedophilia.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
He be playing with them kids.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
And starts joking about how his brother is fighting a
pedophile case currently. And the joking around it, the way like,
first off, these are two white men talking to two
black women. And the joke then leads to how one
of them is fighting a case of pedophilia, not knowing

(37:15):
we have children. Not knowing anything.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
He wanted to see you.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
I mean, we didn't go get drinks or anything with him.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Oh, absolutely not.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
She was like, all right, you want your picture?

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Bye, have a, like, bye. But it was just like,
I was like, wait a second. He was testing. He
was testing to see if he had a. Oh, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Our faces immediately were like. But also just within your community,
you feel comfortable even joking that your brother is fighting a.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
In the Epstein era?

Speaker 1 (37:42):
A PDF case.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
What was the brothers... Did he laugh when the.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
One said it? Definitely like, whoa, all right, stop sharing that.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
But do you remember he said it multiple times?

Speaker 1 (37:54):
And I was like, oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
There's truth in being drunk. That's what I was going
to say. As soon as you said drunk and sharing,
I was like, something crazy is about to come out.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
But even that.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
That's not a game you play.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
To know that even whether you feel a way or not,
you out here with your brother, you having a fucking blast,
you're sharing with strangers that this is... That's like damn
near saying, yeah, he's a killer.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Right.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
He murdered people. He's a cannibal.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
He's a... bro, he's a pedophile? Like, you know, bro
is a rapist and shit. He's crazy. He be raping
and shit. Niggas is crazy. What?

Speaker 1 (38:32):
And it was just like, oh, the privilege. All I
thought was white privilege all fucking night.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
And like, I'll say this, and this isn't like bum bail,
but like, White people play different. White boys do shit
that we don't fuck with.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
White boys will do like, oh, you have sleepover.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
I'm going to put my balls on my friend's head
while he's asleep and all that type of shit. We
don't play them games. We don't play them games, but
they play different. They think that shit is cute.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
To be fair, those games are only not played in
our community because of homophobia. Those games would be acceptable
if our community wasn't as homophobic. Because there's nothing gay
about putting balls on your friend's head.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
It's just a body part. But you might get shot
for it. You might get stabbed for it. Because of homophobia. Nah,
I don't know if I want to go that far. Mandy, Mandy, Mandy.
I don't want to.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Balls on my head.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
I can love all the gay people in the world.
I don't want your nuts dangling on my eyebrow. Shout
out to the community, but you ain't no way.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
I'm just saying, that's why we don't play the same games.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Listen, I'm going to support gay and LGBT people.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
All day long.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
If you put your balls on my forehead, I'm going
to beat you up. You know white boys that do that?
I don't know any, but I've seen it talked about
in college. Rob Markman You know, in college you do
hear shit. I went to a PWI, but you hear
the foolishness, but it's like trolls. It's like, all right,
they trolling maybe, but just don't troll with me like that.

(40:07):
It's cool when we laugh. You and Ethan and Chris,
y'all do all of that shit over there. Like, when
I come around, we just going to smoke weed and
chill out. We're not doing none of the pull my
dick out and pee on you or none of that
dumb shit. Like, yeah, that's how they play. So I
don't know if they thought that was supposed to be, like,
a funny joke. But it wasn't. It was weird. It

(40:28):
was weird.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Like, what the fuck is wrong with you?

Speaker 2 (40:30):
It was weird.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
But, okay, yeah, I was like, damn.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Would you go again? To a baseball game. To a
baseball game?

Speaker 4 (40:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Yeah, I mean, I was very ignorant in realizing why
I'd never talk to a baseball player.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
I don't speak another language. Because I was, like, looking
at all the niggas on the field. Yeah, they were all...
I was like, oh. He got to be, like, Dominican. Yeah,
he got to get your duolingo up to go over
there in New York or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
That might be a little more relevant, too.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
They don't speak English.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Like you go to their Instagram, all the captions are
in Spanish. Even some of the Asian players, like they
came straight from Korea or Japan. Like I got a translator.
I don't talk to none of y'all. He will talk
to y'all about what I want to tell you. And
that was the conversation too with my best friend. We
actually debated because I was like, this is America's sport.
And she was like, no, this is a Latino sport.

(41:19):
She was like, look at all the players.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
And I was like, well, no, I think a Latino
sport would be more like soccer and Like that's a
more worldly sport, right? Baseball is America's sport, which is
crazy because as we were watching it, you would assume
there would be more Americans that play it. But then
I went into, I said, well, I wonder also if
when we, which I was, I was curious as to

(41:40):
how there was so many Brown players, because I went
to schools that were all Black and Brown, majority Black
and Brown. My schools growing up didn't have baseball teams.
The white ones did.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
When I went to Dr. Phillips, it did. When I
went to Northside.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
But when I went to black schools, there wasn't baseball.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
I'm a kid from East New York, Brooklyn. Okay. And
I played in the Pee Wees.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
It's not emphasized. It should be more.

Speaker 6 (42:07):
Emphasized with black and brown because of what you said.
There's a lot of Puerto Rican, Dominican, and should be
more of us in there.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
There should be. But we focus on... football, basketball. Honestly,
here's the real shit. To your point, why she never dated,
you know what's crazy? Baseball is fully guaranteed contracts. They
ain't got no issues, cap restrictions. These niggas can spend
whatever you want to. And your longevity, you have longevity there.
You don't hear too much about somebody. Less injury, less contacts. Yeah,

(42:36):
you might get a Tommy John if you're a pitcher.
But hey, you shortstop, outfielder, you got a long world.
So maybe you you might want to. Oh, no, you
good now.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
I forgot.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
And without going too long on it, to your point about, like,
it's everything about race, right?

Speaker 4 (42:48):
Right.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
The other problem with, the other thing with baseball that
provides some level of, like, barrier to entry for us
is that, A, these travel leagues are expensive as shit. No,
that's what I'm saying. They're expensive. And expensive as shit.
And this equipment, bad. The balls. The gloves.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
Even that for a public school. Public school, yeah. I mean,
I went to public school. So it was interesting because
we're talking about it and, again, seeing the people playing,
seeing the country they were from. I'm like, for this
being an American sport dominated by Brown players from other countries,
it was interesting that there weren't more Americans on America's

(43:24):
sports team.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
Well, so my high school was white.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
I mean, it was mixed, but it was, we lived,
it was a white suburb and all of our baseball
team was white.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
It had one biracial kid on there.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
But the thing about it is, is that in Dunwoody, Georgia,
in Marietta, in Cobb County, There's baseball.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
Fields all over the place.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
In the hood, there's a basketball court. They ain't building
no baseball fields in the hood. No city is taking
the time to invest in that infrastructure to give kids
in certain areas those access. I thought that goddamn movie
would have changed that.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Hardball?

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
That was one of my favorite films. Okay, I'm aging
us here, y'all. But Hardball? And what was the baby
something that died? I don't know, but Hardball, if you
haven't seen it, it's a great, great, great, great film
about an inner city. It's Keanu Reeves in that, right?

Speaker 3 (44:12):
Yeah, I think it's Keanu Reeves, yep.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
Keanu Reeves comes in and.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Coaches the team. Yep.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
And you see that because of the area they're in,
they can't be outside after a certain time.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
Because of the streetlights going off and becoming dangerous. But yeah,
really good movie.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
Hardball.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
No, classic.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
All right.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
This is America, y'all. Target. Yet again. God damn it.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
I just came in and said Mad Niggas was in
the Target lineup. Target is facing backlash after a Halloween costume.
It's called out for imagery that critics say it's clear
resembles historic blackface and minstrel caricatures. We have a clip
of someone kind of breaking down what this is, what

(45:00):
it looks like in the history. If you want to
go ahead and play that before we get into their apology,
because of course they came out with an apology.

Speaker 8 (45:08):
At this point, we know Target is playing in our
face and they know exactly what they did. with this costume.
Some eek, no-name-ass costume. It doesn't go to anything. And
even the posing that the photographer did, if you look,
this was a black face, Ohio. Y'all know how I
feel about Ohio, the Devil's Den.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
1890.

Speaker 8 (45:31):
Why is he posed the same way? You've got the
big mouth that's that caricature. They knew exactly what they
were doing, and they put a black child in it.
And I have to say, black parents, Y'all children that
are in the industry, the fact that one, you let
your child do an ad for Target, the fact that two,
you let your child get dressed like this, abomination. You

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should be ashamed of yourself. But Target knows what they're doing.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
And this is why they.

Speaker 8 (45:57):
Lost $ 12. 4 billion and will continue to lose money. And
if any black person, if you're still going to Target,
you deserve everything you get. We don't want to see
the stories of you being accosted or anything happening in there.
We do not care because this is a choice. These
people are showing you they don't give a damn.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
About black people.

Speaker 8 (46:17):
And some of y'all are still going there. I was
an avid Target shopper. I mean, I had credit card.
I was in there every other week, if not every week.
I was getting my prescriptions there. It was full stop shopping.
I have not been back to Target since last year
when we started boycotting. If I can stay out of there,
so can you. If you're choosing to still go there,

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you are someone Harriet would have left behind. Now, they've
pulled this costume down because they know it was some BS.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
They did issue an apology and their apology read as
we removed an offensive Halloween costume that should never have
been a part of our assortment. It is no longer
for sale. As a company, we got this wrong and
we are deeply sorry. We know this is especially hurtful
for our Black guests, team members, and partners. Removing the

(47:08):
costume is Removing the costume is an important first step.
And we are looking closely at how this happened and
what needs to change to ensure this won't happen again. Well,
you got rid of the literal department that would have
saved y'all from this happening. Viola Davis responded and said, Target,

(47:29):
I do not accept your apology. And I do not
believe that you understand the impact, the pain, the dehumanization
of the above. These images laid the foundation and the
ideology for every atrocity that has been committed against my people.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
We matter.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
You have shown us that you are not on our side.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
A few thoughts here.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
Are we surprised?

Speaker 7 (47:57):
No.

Speaker 4 (47:57):
Oh, no.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
No, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
Is there a surprise in this? Absolutely not.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
No, whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Target saying we're going to look to rectify this matter
and see what we could have done better. Well, I
don't think you're going to consider bringing DEI back.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
No.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
And because you're not, I don't think this gets resolved.
I think we keep seeing it. I actually think we
keep seeing it with a lot of brands.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
We are still at H & M. People are still
buying Gucci.

Speaker 7 (48:25):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
We are still eating, even me as a member of
the LGBTQIA plus community.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Eating what?

Speaker 1 (48:31):
Chick-fil-A.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
That filler.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
That filler.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
That filler, baby. That waffle fry. And they got the
chicken and waffle. And they got the chicken and waffle now.

Speaker 7 (48:41):
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
They done niggified the goddamn Chick-fil-A. You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (48:44):
She said eating and the LGBTQ. I didn't know she
was talking about Chick-fil-A.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
I'm still eating that too. I thought she was talking
about something else.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
I'm still eating that too. But I say this to say. Cooch-fil-A.
This continues to be a distraction of conversation.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
Of course.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
I mean, like we said, there's kind of no way
to ignore race in anything that happens, right?

Speaker 3 (49:04):
Americans set themselves up this way. They decided they wanted.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
We currently have an administration that welcomes racism.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
We currently have an administration that kind of not only
speaks the same rhetoric, actually.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
Wouldn't even apologize. after. Absolutely not.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
Trump doesn't apologize for the things he says about Mexicans,
about Haitians, about black and brown people.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
My African Americans. And instead, you know what he does do?
Just brings one of.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
Them on the next speech that he has to show
that we, unfortunately, as a community, Remain to be ununified.
Just like the black conservative woman that sat across from
you on CNN. We're going to hear uproar. Again, Viola
Davis is in here talking about the history. Well, Master

(49:54):
P last week, we responded to said we should stop harping.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
We shouldn't talk about it at all.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
And the loofahs in our comments of that clip. Agree
with him. Why are we talking about slavery? I'm going
to sit here and side with the millionaire. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
Those were the comments last week, right? So, it's unfortunate.
It's this... I don't know.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
Well, we talked about this on CNN yesterday. And what
was the sentiment? Well, ironically, the conservative black woman... Agreed
that it was racist. Her take on it was that
she just thinks that it was rage bait on Target's
part to just get people to be upset, which I

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can't rule out as part of the thing.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
But my main point about it is.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Or also, not even rage bait. Do you see how many.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
People, especially even Kyle Rittenhouse and all the people that
come together in droves to GoFundMe, to get them released.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
The most egregious acts.

Speaker 6 (51:00):
They come up with a million dollars.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
And so, yes, they lost $ 12. 8 billion from the black dollar. However,
on the other end, again, going into midterms, seeing how
much more racists Our country is becoming, this could be
a way for them to galvanize more right-wingers to go
spend money.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
Yeah, to come do that.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
This is a non-nigger friendly zone. Come spend your dollars
with us.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
Come spend your dollars here.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
So then why apologize? Just stand on it. Well, here's
the thing about it, right? They still want, they don't
want us, but they definitely want our money. They don't
give a fuck how we feel about it. But the
thing with the DEI part of it is that, yes,
if there was a DEI program still in effect at Target,

(51:49):
someone likely would have caught it. But my thing about
it is that it shouldn't take a DEI program for...
white people to recognize that this is racist. If you're
an ally or any type of white person, we've been
having this dialogue about what's racist for a long time.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
This is nothing new. You know what it is.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Even if there's not a single black person who works
anywhere in Target, somebody white with a good sense should
have been able to say, hey, this is going to
be a bad idea for us. We should probably not
do this. And it went through God knows how many emails,
how many meetings, how many corporate protocols. The sign-offs. The
sign-offs of a million different people, and yet it still

(52:30):
made it through. It's not an accident.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
They just don't give a fuck.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
They're not even trying to understand why people would react
a certain kind of way to certain things. They just
don't care. And I don't know if we can couch it.
And niggas are still going to shop there. Yeah, because
niggas want what they want. Niggas want convenience more than anything.

Speaker 6 (52:47):
Also, listen, your house is going to go according to
the economics show, right? It's like, all right, how much
is the paper towels here versus over there?

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Yeah. And we talked about this before. There's some areas
where Target is the only thing in proximity.

Speaker 3 (53:02):
Might be.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Okay, you know what? And I'm not defending it. I'm
just saying. Yeah, but no, but those are reasons why people...
To put the owners on, oh, you guys, this is
not true, but what are we going to do? We
going to audit everybody to see if they chopped at Target?

Speaker 1 (53:15):
Okay, so ignorant thought here.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Quickly.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
Not defending this costume. However, I feel like this is
also a common conversation every year.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
It's that time of year.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
There's always an inappropriate, quote unquote, costume that comes out.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
Whether it be you.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Looking like a politician with a shot in your neck. Like,
there's a lot of people that dress up and partake
in Halloween with inappropriate costumes in mind.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
All the time.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
Whether they're racist, whether they're devil worshipping, whether they are
a celebrity that you shouldn't be because they've done bad things.
I think this is unfortunately common.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
Just with the holiday altogether. Well, the thing that's egregious
about that costume was being couched as a clown suit.

Speaker 3 (54:13):
And I've seen a lot of clowns. in my day.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
Various kinds. I never seen no clown in black and orange.
And that suit almost looked more like a jail suit
than a clown suit. When I think of clown, I
think of big colorful wig, big red shoes, red nose,
all of that. What did the big smiling toothy have
to do with clown? I've never seen a clown look
like that before.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
If we're leaning into the history of menstrual and all
the things, Target.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Is not going to get canceled over this.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
No, absolutely not.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Because neither did Drake.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
No, I thought it was a Drake costume at first.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
Drake did this and he's.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
Still top three. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
Are you talking about.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
We as a community did not even cancel Drake for
doing this.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
I don't know. He didn't get canceled for it. No,
he didn't get canceled for it.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
He didn't get canceled for it.

Speaker 6 (55:04):
He can't get canceled per se because one, he's not American.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
Two, he has no.

Speaker 6 (55:11):
connection to none of this conversation because he's never spoke
about any of these things so we can't be like
oh man fuck.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
You if you say neither did neither did target target
is different they hired they employed no but see that's
what i'm saying and we're talking about spending dollars at
target so what's the difference between spending dollars going to
drake concerts drake did the same thing whether he has
a connection to the history or not he knows what
the history is what did he do he dressed up

(55:36):
as as blackface he did blackface which is what we're
saying this is too. This is blackface.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
Well, I mean, and, you know, I mean, his.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
His hypocrisy was excused. This is hypocrisy on all of it. Like,
are we really mad now? Because when Drake did it,
nobody really was mad. They were mad a little bit.
Now we just got to be really mad at Target.
They were outraged a little bit, but... That's what I'm saying.
This is.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
Well, also, like.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
Oh, my God, this nigga's crazy.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
Well, here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
Yo, this nigga is like... Yo, I ain't seen this
nigga in a while. Y'all are phony. Like, this is like...
This is the distraction, bro.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
No, but here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
You know what... You 500 points of Mandy right now, yo.
Because what are we talking about? Nigga, what are we
talking about? You put me in an uncomfortable position because
now I have to offer this nigga some bum bail.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
No, you're about to offer bail.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
A little bit of bum bail.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
All I'm saying, I am just pointing out the hypocrisy
of our outrage.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
There's no way we can do all.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
These think pieces on fucking Target and why we won't
spend our dollars there. Yet, Drake got all of our streams. Drake,
we are at Drake concerts. Drake still, even after this,
hold on, was top three.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
Big three.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
So here's what I'm going to say.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
You know what? While we can argue, I mean, while
we can argue about Drake's, uh, level of... No, no, no.
Keep it up. People will debate Drake's level of how
he identifies as a biracial. This was part of a

(57:11):
performance he was doing. This wasn't Drake dressing up as...
Halloween is a costume. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
This was in a show, though. He did a play
or something. This wasn't like, I just walked out my
house and put on blackface. He was in a production
where he decided to do this.

Speaker 3 (57:26):
Now, I wouldn't do it.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
I don't think most black men would do it, but
he decided to do this as part of whatever production
that he was involved with with this thing.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
That's a different thing than... putting on.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Blackface to go outside and act like a jigaboo.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
This is a costume for Halloween, which, again, if you're
talking production performance, Halloween is the one time you should
be excused for blackface because you're not just going out
to do it.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
You're dressing up. You're dressing up.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
If you're saying you dress up for a production, Halloween,
you dress up in a costume.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Well, if you're doing a satire, it's like saying when
Drewski puts on whiteface, he's doing that as a production.
No one is putting on whiteface.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
No, and that's why white people have a problem with it.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
If he can do whiteface, we can do blackface.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
All I'm saying is there's a.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
Hypocrisy in all this. And I'm just saying, like, all
the think pieces and all these conversations about, oh, fuck Target. Bro,
Drake did it, babe. Like, y'all are phony. You don't
really fucking give a fuck. And damn, I'm trying not
to cuss.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
When we do the clips, I'm like, goddamn, all the bleeps.

Speaker 6 (58:27):
So let me ask you something. So at what point,
when does it become a conversation then? How do we
move forward?

Speaker 1 (58:32):
This is a conversation, but I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
You just don't want the excess conversation.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
No, it's the, to me, fake outrage. Because if you're
going to be upset and boycott and cancel and not
spend money for an entity and corporation that does it,
Drake is an entity and corporation in.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
Himself as well. And so to me.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
All these think.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
Pieces, all these think pieces about, oh my God, they're so.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
But if you still listen to Drake.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
Babe, I don't want to hear it. But how many
people do you think are Drake fans who are still
dropping at Target? We don't know if those are the
same people or not, because I'm sure there's a lot
of people who don't listen to Drake, who don't fuck
with Drake, who also don't fuck with Target. For me,
for different reasons. No, no, no.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
There are some, sure.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
But I'm just saying, for all the think pieces, for
all the podcasts that talked about Target being this... Because
of this costume specifically.

Speaker 4 (59:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
Babe, y'all are all talking about how great those three
album drops were.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
A couple months ago. We got to give him some Bumbell.
Because if he was acting.

Speaker 6 (59:30):
And I just read, I don't think I read the entire,
his response to it.

Speaker 4 (59:34):
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 6 (59:34):
Him saying that they were highlighting how, you know, African-Americans
didn't get fair opportunity.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It was a play. Yeah,
it was a show. Okay, so guess what? I can see, yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
For all of you black historians, all of you fucking FBAs,
Get your child this costume so that you can educate.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
The people who are like, well, what is that? Well,
where's this? What are you this year?

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
Since it's an educational thing to do, we should all
have our kids in blackface so we can fucking goddamn
educate people on our history. That was Drake's explanation. So
then we shouldn't be so upset because now people are
being educated more about why it's offensive. Get the fuck
out of here. Let's go to our next topic.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
All right, y'all. I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
We got to call out the hypocrisy when it exists.
And we wasn't going to talk about this goddamn topic
the way everybody else did. Because I'm listening and I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Like, y'all phony. Nobody brought up Drake. Exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
Because y'all goddamn hypocrites.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
When was the last time you shot with H & M? Oh,
let's be very clear.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
I have Gucci, H & M. I eat at Chick-fil-A.
I just told y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
I will go to Target.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
We need an Airplay TV. And they be having TVs
on sale there. I'm not going to sit here and
join y'all in the public.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Is there a limit, though?

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Nigga, I am pro-Palestine. What do y'all drink every week
with me?

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
Starbucks. They are pro-Israel. Like, I'm aware.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
I'm not going to sit here. I can't fight everything.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
No, you can't fight everything, but you can still call
a thing a thing. Yeah, and I'm calling all of
y'all hypocrites. And you bought it. What? You bought it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
I actually need to buy stock in them because I
spend way too much money. I'm a reserve. I'm a
reserve member at Starbucks.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
Listen, I think that's where like for me and why
this podcast is, I want these conversations, but like the
outrage and, and, and public discourse that goes for certain
things and not for others. And it's literally the same thing,
but we make excuses as to why we're not so
mad over here when it's the same thing over here
is why I'm just like, let's have these conversations. Now,

(01:01:45):
bringing back another local incident that happened, there was a
stabbing on the Beltline and video was also out. There
was a person having a schizophrenic moment on the Beltline
where people were trying to stop him, apprehend him. They

(01:02:08):
were trying to be vigilantes. And unfortunately, one of them
ended up getting stabbed in the neck and passing away.
And it was very interesting because while there were a
lot of people speaking of the victim and what he
meant to the community, the family of the assailant, essentially,

(01:02:31):
came out and put blame on the city of Atlanta
for this, essentially.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
To the Atlanta community, neighbors, and leadership, we are writing
this letter with profound sense of heartbreak, grief, and accountability. Yesterday,
a horrific act of violence shattered our community on the
Atlanta Beltline. The pain inflicted upon the victim, their family,
and every person who witnessed or was impacted by this
tragedy is immeasurable. Our family is trapped in the agonizing

(01:02:59):
reality of knowing that we spent years desperately fighting a
broken system to prevent this exact tragedy from happening. Now,
they went further to speak of the assailant and expressed
that he lived with a severe mental illness. SMI, apparently,
is what it's called.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
SMI?

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
SMI. Severe mental illness.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
That's how it's categorized.

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
Okay, I've never heard of that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
That causes active psychosis. And in his reality, he is
under constant terrifying attack by bystanders. They went in further
to express how.
He is a convicted felon with 30-plus arrest cycles. Most recently,
he needed his phone charged, and they talked about him

(01:03:47):
bringing a sword to an elementary school.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
Recently, in which they only charged him with a misdemeanor.
So the question that they've been asking for years is
how the legal system relies on a revolving door of
short-term incarceration... rather than long-term structural intervention, especially for these
individuals that are liabilities in our community, liabilities in our system.

(01:04:18):
By the way, it wasn't just a sword. He took
a three-foot samurai saber into Chamblee Elementary School under the
delusional premise that this act was required because he simply
needed to charge his father. He felt at attack and
went into an.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
Elementary school with a sword.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
And unfortunately, got a warning sign and a standard misdemeanor.
And so I was thinking, we talk about justice often
in terms, again, back to race, right? We're seeing the
Nolan Wells case. We're seeing these lynchings being ignored. We're
seeing a black kid be pulled out of an SUV.
We see there was a recent.

(01:04:57):
Pull over with a black boy. They tried to save it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
He pointed a gun at the cops and the cops
put a gun on him. The surveillance was the only.

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
Thing that saved him, right? And so I'm sitting here
knowing that we're fighting a system that doesn't view us
as humans, essentially, but also there's a lot of people
fighting the system to how do we resolve the mental
illness that's happening in this country. And so it was
really interesting because we don't often.

(01:05:27):
It's hard to empathize with someone who kills someone. But
in this statement, I was just like, wow. It's why
we have.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
To be in a.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
You never know what someone's going through.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
At all.

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
Everyone needs.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
If you're out in public, if you're not inside of
your home, you need to be vigilant. And, you know, unfortunately,
that word has been bastardized a little bit because... A
lot of times people will, when people are told to

(01:06:01):
be vigilant or when people are expressing the need to
be aware of your surroundings, some people will take that as, well,
what are you so scared of? Why are you going
places if you think that everything is gonna whoopty, whoopty, whoopty, whoop?
that's disingenuous because nobody gets to predict when something happens.

(01:06:23):
You don't get to just say, well, it's Tuesday, I'm
trying to mind my business, but if you're going to
attack me, attack me at 12.05 because I'll be over
here and I'll be ready. Like, that's not how that happens.
That's not how that works. I'm not going to lie.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
And seeing this, I had to think about how living
in New York desensitized me a little bit to mental
health because as someone who worked a 9-to-5... Mm-hmm. Nothing
was worse than the delay on the train because someone
jumped in front of it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
And in that moment, you don't empathize. You're just like, fuck,
I'm about to be late. The trains are stopped. And
it's one of those where you don't get to predict.
I would not be able to know that someone would
wake up this morning and.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
Decide to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
But in New York, we just think of the inconvenience,
not what that person was going through. And a lot
of times, we know the people that kind of need
this help. This family said we were asking for help.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
We tried.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
The systems don't give that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
And it brings me back.

Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
If Antoinette was here... To capitalism. And it is because
a lot of these rehabilitation programs, the medication needed, you
need health insurance. For health insurance, you need a job
that provides it or you need to have the money
to be able to pay.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
Pay the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
And it's just one of those things back again where
when we talk about UnitedHealthcare, we talked about this on
the bonus episode, what would help? Unfortunately, that's the system
that we're in where these people that have mental health
illnesses that need medication or treatment or diagnosis or centers,
the cost of those things becomes an impossible feat for

(01:07:52):
most of our civilians.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
I disagree. You disagree, okay.

Speaker 6 (01:07:56):
Yeah, because these politicians, they give budgets for the most wildest,
egregious shits, and they don't put budgets into mental health
because they don't care about it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
Well, no, they also don't care about women. That's why
they're defunding Planned Parenthood. They take the money out of education.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
And how... So in Philadelphia, I believe, they wanted to
put up centers where they can have meth users go
inside an establishment and get their hit.

Speaker 7 (01:08:21):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
So why we can't do the same for people who
need the resources for mental health? And people have been
saying that, especially if he had a record 30 times
for things that he's probably not aware that he's doing. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:08:33):
It's a psychological thing that was already in his record.
That's a history of it. He should have had help
on the first one. He should have been the first
person in line.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
If there was any type of program to help people
like that, that was publicly funded, federally funded, he should
have been one of a prime example of someone at
the top of the list who's a, Hey, Go get
this guy off the street. Get him in this center.
Get him some help because he could be a danger
to other people. Listen, I say it all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
The crazy thing about growing up as a child right?
Anyone who's different, behavioral issues, disabilities, they keep them separate.
They're in different classes, sometimes whole different schools. They eat
lunch at different times. And once you're out of school,
they're just thrown into society with everyone else. But that's

(01:09:18):
not the treatment So we don't know how to engage
or interact with a lot of them unless they're within
your family unit and it's a direct relationship. In school,
they're kept away.

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
Public school, private school, all the things. They have their
own times to do that. You see them, you might
pass them in the hallway, but they're kept separate. And
then unfortunately, once high school is done, they're just out
with all of us. And now we don't know. We
have the signs. We don't, like, that's not something that
we're even.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
And to that point, once you get into society, and
this is what people have been talking about for years,
now you become... the law enforcement, the police's problem. And
the police aren't equipped. The same way that we're not
as just regular people, the police aren't equipped to deal
with that. They're not identifying the issue. You're just as
likely to get killed because they just like, ah, the

(01:10:07):
nigga got a floor.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
I don't care what it looks like he's got going on.
I'm going to shoot him.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
And that's just it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
And now you're just dead.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
Yeah. That's interesting. But I do want to turn, I
do want to pivot from this part of this story
to another part that I want to address about this stabbing. Okay.
The gentleman, the initial confrontation was between someone who was
antagonizing this person and a mentally ill person. The person

(01:10:35):
who tried to step in, who was ultimately the victim
who died.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
The vigilante, like I said.

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
He was trying to do what he thought was right.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
And by no means am I blaming him or assigning
any accountability for his own death. But what I just
want people to think about is when you're in these
situations where you are trying to help someone, whether it is,
in this case, you know, somebody who was mentally unwell.
A domestic violence incident.

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
A domestic violence incident.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
You need to think carefully about how you engage. If
you decide I'm going to help this person, great. But
you need to think carefully about how you're doing this.
The person who was stabbed made very close contact with
this guy.

Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
He has a weapon.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
You have nothing but your hands. You can't even really
defend yourself against an attack. I'm not saying that you
approach him violently, but if you're not at least armed
in some kind of way, you need to keep your
distance from that person because the closer you get, the
more at risk you are. And in that particular spot

(01:11:43):
they were in, in the belt line, it was kind
of and not enclosed, but it was a tight area.
It was like a little concrete median. So you having
to run around and stuff and all this type of thing,
it's just an unsafe practice to approach someone in that
condition without being armed or having something that can be

(01:12:03):
a barrier between you and that attack. I agree. And
so I just want people to think about that because
everyone's trying to do the good thing. I think this
person was trying to do the good thing. And To
get stabbed, you need to be very close to the person.
And you shouldn't be that close to someone who is
clearly unwell and armed.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
Now, I do want to add to that and lighten
this up a little bit. Because as we talk about people...
With mental health issues.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
Living amongst us. Oh, boy. Scamming us. Oh, boy.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
This is not a sports podcast, but niggas is out
here acting like NFL players.

Speaker 3 (01:12:37):
Acting like 49ers.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
To get money from gold digging bitches that feel the
need to give money to.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
Which is crazy to get rich off of gold.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
It's tricky, it's tricky, okay. So part of me wants
to believe that some of these were gold diggers. Another
part of me wants to believe that they trusted that
they were investing in something.

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
To make money.

Speaker 4 (01:12:57):
Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
And they were going to get it back. And that
they were going to get it back. Because he's an
NFL player.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
So, if y'all been living under a rock, a guy
by the name of Javon, it's Javon, right? Javon Love,
he is currently being investigated by the FBI. And after
involving himself in an alleged identifiable financial scheme that left

(01:13:23):
26 victims combined out of $ 1. 3 million in.

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
Losses.

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
That's an absurd amount of money.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
It's a mess.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
It's a mess. It's a mess because when you see
the videos of this man's social media account, I don't
know how any.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
Women believed him.

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
I also thought that we had Google. Like, I didn't
know this, like, catfishing could still go to this extent.

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
Now, clearly, yes, Dr.

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
Cheyenne Bryant catfished the fuck out of people, right? I
align this with the same, as well as the Duke
PA student. This, to me, is why I said, yes,
you have the people holding the weapons, mental illness. This
is why I said, the people that were laughing and
joking and didn't see what Dr. Cheyenne Bryant was doing

(01:14:18):
as a crime, these are probably some of the most dangerous,
unwell people. Because they believe they're lying.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
They have to train themselves to believe that shit.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
They are dressing up. They are going about their day.
They are posting to the internet. And they are creating
stories and telling multiple people that this is a reality.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
That they live in.

Speaker 4 (01:14:38):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
These people... are.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
Sick and dangerous. These people should be put away. If
you have a friend that you know is a liar,
I want you to know that yes, criminals, murderers, rapists, pedophiles,
those are dangerous people.

Speaker 3 (01:14:59):
Sociopaths.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
We have to start adding that liars to this extent, sociopathic,
pathological liars are just as dangerous in our society as
any of the people that we consider criminals.

Speaker 3 (01:15:12):
Very much so.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
Which I promote this shit. Who promotes this? With all
my scamming ass niggas. No, we're not doing that. We're
not doing that. You kidding with the nerds are supposed
to be the scammers? The blerds are supposed to be
the scammers? The niggas who watch Marvel? That's not enough.
So somebody got to do the shit. Then when they
do the shit, oh, well, he fucked up. No, this
is what- No, no, no, no. This is lying.

Speaker 6 (01:15:29):
This is exactly that shit. And I'm not trying to,
I'm not shitting on a song like Young Miami. I'm
just saying the culture of the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
I don't like the word scammer being associated.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
He- Did he not?

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
Okay, the Duke University PA.

Speaker 7 (01:15:41):
1.6.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
Okay, so then hear me out. Hold on.

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
Do you think that people are upset because he scammed
women because on the opposite end, the girl that was
on Temptation Island who acted like a Duke PA for
brand deals, why do we not feel like because she
sold from corporations, which is why we assume credit card scammers,

(01:16:05):
if they're scamming from corporations, corporations and do a white
collar crime, it's not as bad as if they're stealing
from old women. Like, or old people.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
Oh, I'm that person for sure. I'd say steal whatever
you want to from a company. Oh, I see what
I mean. I don't care at all about stealing from companies.
I care about stealing from people. But companies, you want
to steal from Target? You want to go inside of Target's,
you want to hack their bank and embezzle all of
their money? Have at it, champ. I don't care at all.
They're going to be coming for you from Buffalo when

(01:16:33):
they're on that camera. Oh, no, if you get caught,
you get caught. That's the game of the game. The
game of the game.

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
There's apparently another guy who's come out allegedly to claiming
to be a football player and he's not. So there's
like this thing. This is interesting. A, this has been happening... Forever.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
This is, especially before Google, before phones, men have been
out here lying, saying that they're athletes.

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
A big nigga buy a chain with a number on
it and make you think, oh, he's an offensive lineman. Bro,
he had an authentic 49er jersey with his name on it. Oh, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
And he photoshopped the name of his jersey and made
it seem like it was the number one in the
app store.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
Yeah. But that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
He did this.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
Who was he talking to? I want to see the women,
the 20, whatever, how many women. No, no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
You know who I want to see? Who is fucking
filming him?

Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
He apparently has friends and family. Oh, no, they're complicit.
They sat down in the room and was like, yo,
we're going to do this. Technically, this should be a RICO. No, no, no.

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
Like, this is organized crime.

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
Across state lines.

Speaker 3 (01:17:35):
Across state lines. Wire fraud and all of that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
That was arrested with him. Asian.

Speaker 3 (01:17:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
So here's the thing. When we talk about why this
could be, and why I get you're associating it with scam,
I want to bring it back to the danger. Again,
if you watch the documentary about the mother, who in
her mind created all these fake people, voices, pretended to
be pregnant so much so she went and killed a

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friend that was.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
Pregnant and steal her baby.

Speaker 3 (01:18:02):
Crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
This is the psychosis that these people put themselves into
in order to live the life that they imagined.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
And what if you're told no?

Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
What if there's more?

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
What if there's more to the story? Well, there's a thing.

Speaker 1 (01:18:17):
A lot of the women that he got money from,
he eventually ghosted.

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
Right. After he got the money.

Speaker 1 (01:18:23):
After they didn't want to keep or after they started
asking enough questions, he was ghosting them. You're stealing people's
hard-earned money.

Speaker 3 (01:18:28):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
What would it take for somebody to get $ 100, 000 out
of you? Out of me?

Speaker 6 (01:18:32):
Because that's what it sounds like. When you add up
all of these numbers, he was actually like $ 100 or
$ 500 or even $ 1, 000. He was getting some bread bread.
He was getting some bread.

Speaker 3 (01:18:40):
Real bread.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
I'm about to get my signing bonus in two weeks.
Just shoot me down. no they were investments I.

Speaker 1 (01:18:49):
Mean shit I got two bands out of me shout
out to fan base that's not on the app store
right now Ike I'd like to know what's happening.

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
I'm sure you're not the only one.

Speaker 2 (01:19:00):
I just would like to know I do.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
Like, I mean, I'm just saying, technically, if we gonna
be real here, a nigga done got two bands outta me.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
Like, if we talking about investment- Rob Markman So, is
it plausible? Rob Markman No, no. Rob Markman In the
guise of investment, because somebody's like- Rob Markman My dude,
I done got two bands. He got a couple bands
out of Charlamagne. He got money out of you.

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
Talking about how this could happen.

Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
Well, mine wasn't as much as y'all's. I was measured
in my approach.

Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
But like, if we talk about this is the scheme
he did, he wasn't out here like, yo, I need
money for bills. I need money for rent. Like niggas
can't get that out of me. But like, there's a
story that can be told. There's a story that can
be told where within our community, there's people who could
say they move in certain circles and, like an athlete,

(01:19:50):
like a hedge fund guy. Apparently, he was also telling
people that he did real estate.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
That's the key.

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
And so, like, there are, I mean, let's be very clear.
There's a lot of people spending a lot of money
for financial literacy going to InvestFact.

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
We are currently in an ecosystem where, as black people,
we are investing now. We want to see our dollar grow.

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
We're looking for a lick. Everybody looking for a goddamn lick.
Everyone kind of looking for a lick.

Speaker 1 (01:20:13):
And so, this doesn't surprise me. He went about it
in an awful way, scamming. He's a fucking liar.

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
But... Man, he got up one morning. He did.

Speaker 6 (01:20:22):
Got up with the homies. It had to be at
least two. Somebody to film it. And the nigga to
train him.

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
To train him.

Speaker 3 (01:20:28):
Fake train him.

Speaker 2 (01:20:28):
Fake train. With a helmet on and the beach in
the sand. No, no, no. The fake trainer was probably
getting a cut.

Speaker 3 (01:20:33):
Probably.

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
Any coach would never co-sign their player doing that shit
in the sand. That's so much of a risk.

Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
He's convinced them that he's a skitter.

Speaker 4 (01:20:43):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
If we... Because this can.

Speaker 1 (01:20:46):
Lead right into the Drewski thing, right? He's a skitter.

Speaker 4 (01:20:49):
Oof.

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
If we look at.

Speaker 1 (01:20:51):
Mojo Brooks and all these niggas, sometimes they're in prison,
sometimes they're dating someone, they're pulling up.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
Nigga, Drewski was in the Atlanta airport. In the airport,
at the real TSA, doing a skit.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
And so when we open this up broader, right? When
we take out that pathological liar, yes, they're dangerous.

Speaker 2 (01:21:10):
But when we.

Speaker 1 (01:21:11):
Open the realm that we actually exist in, this could
be a skit. This is why people are involved because
they don't see any, they don't know the harm that
he's doing, right? He's like, I'm gonna act like a
football player.

Speaker 2 (01:21:22):
Let's do this. And then when we take it to.

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
The other end where he was actually getting the investments,
we as a community, women, black people, brown people, we
are in a space where we're meeting people all the time.
And if we trust the person because What did I
say all the time? These grifters speak well.

Speaker 2 (01:21:39):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:21:40):
They know how to hold a conversation. They can make
you believe. Shit, all y'all that go to church every Sunday,
same shit. They getting your money. They getting your 10% because... Okay,
maybe I'm taking it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:53):
Too far now. Maybe I'm taking it too far. He
might need to hire you as his attorney. You just
gave him the alibi. I was just investing for my skinny,
my social media content creation. It was a production. Of
course I was in the NFL football player. You didn't know.
You didn't know? You could just look at the roster.
I mean, listen. Yo, you just gave him, oh, this
nigga might be outside.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
All I'm saying is we have to be, A, we
have to do more of our diligence.

Speaker 2 (01:22:18):
Yeah, because there's certain questions that you can ask that
would have made his whole thing fall apart. If you
just asked the right questions, just did a little bit
of background, you'd have been like, not the gullible.

Speaker 3 (01:22:28):
That's not how that works.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
I know, but he was preying on... You know how
diligent you have to be to find one? But even that... No, no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:22:36):
Women do this for broke niggas all the time. I
know the question is, oh my God, why would you
give money to a person who's claiming to be rich?

Speaker 2 (01:22:43):
They do it to men who aren't rich.

Speaker 7 (01:22:45):
Like.

Speaker 1 (01:22:46):
We even saw Brittany Renner flew herself out to Colin Kaepernick.
There's bitches that will spend money and be around. I
know you get on the internet and only women have
their hands out to men.

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
That's not the truth. There's layers to this.

Speaker 1 (01:22:58):
Because also, watch the goddamn, and this is, I feel
bad for them, watch the Tinder swindler.

Speaker 3 (01:23:05):
He did it on a global level.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
He did it on a global level.

Speaker 1 (01:23:10):
So this isn't new.

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
He is a liar.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
He is We should be scared of people like this.

Speaker 2 (01:23:17):
100%. But honestly. He the one that got caught. You know. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:21):
Now, taking it to skits. Drewski released another skit. I
thought it was funny. But I have dark humor. Apparently,
former athlete T.J. Ford did not find it funny.

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
Right. He took to.

Speaker 1 (01:23:41):
It looked like he was on a podcast. If you
want to pull the clip up. Basically, Drewski's new skit
kind of cracked fun at CTE.

Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
And this is what T.J.

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
Ford had to say about this particular skit.

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
And I think CTE.

Speaker 5 (01:23:58):
universally is the only disease it's allowed to be made
fun of and when something's funny it's funny some of
the situations in that skit you know like you said
was a couple funny moments but overall i'm gonna put
my sensitivity cap on like everyone else seems to do
when it is affecting them like you said this these

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are life and death situations.

Speaker 3 (01:24:22):
And at the end of the day it's a It's
a life-taking disease.

Speaker 5 (01:24:28):
And I think CTE, universally, is the only disease it's
allowed to be made fun of. Which is crazy. You
wouldn't make fun of somebody with cancer. You wouldn't make
fun of somebody with dementia.

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
You wouldn't make fun of somebody with AIDS.

Speaker 5 (01:24:45):
You wouldn't make fun of anyone with these diseases that
are taking lives. But for some reason, across the universal platform,
whether it's social media... Fans joking with us about we
saying something they don't agree with.

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
Oh, that's the CTE talking.

Speaker 5 (01:25:00):
It's the only players, football players, people that have effects
of collisions and CTE symptoms are the only people that
are allowed to be made fun of.

Speaker 1 (01:25:10):
First off.

Speaker 2 (01:25:11):
There's multiple things that's not true or what he's talking about,
but like... A lot of diseases get made fun of.
Everything gets made fun of. Everything gets made fun of.
There's not a single subject in the world that exists
that's sensitive to someone that has not been joked about.
Not one. Not one. Not one.

Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
First off, so that's a lie.

Speaker 2 (01:25:28):
Stop.

Speaker 1 (01:25:28):
Secondly, this reminds me of the lack of empathy for
all of the Alameda Fires. That took place because also
a lot of people that had a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
People felt like they didn't need the empathy. Now, while
CTE is highly directed and linked to football players, the
empathy lacks there because you're still playing this sport.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
You chose to play this sport.

Speaker 3 (01:25:58):
You chose to play this sport.

Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
There was a decision in knowing the risks. But choosing
to play this sport.

Speaker 3 (01:26:03):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (01:26:04):
And also making millions while doing it.

Speaker 3 (01:26:06):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
So that's also maybe why CTE gets this kind of
thing because it's not something that just happens to you.
You put yourself in a position to make it more
likely for you to get this more money.

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
The other part is other diseases, no one, like, There's
no choice to make. You can just be living your
regular life and get cancer. You can just be living
your regular life and get other diseases.

Speaker 1 (01:26:33):
AIDS isn't a choice, but it comes with a lifestyle.

Speaker 3 (01:26:36):
Or there's a recklessness.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
If you're not having protective sex, then it's like you're
opening yourself up for all those kinds of things.

Speaker 4 (01:26:42):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:26:43):
The other part is that... Paul's what? Open yourself up. No,
it's not a part.

Speaker 2 (01:26:48):
No, it's not a part. It was there, it was there,
it was there, it was there.

Speaker 3 (01:26:53):
The other problem is.

Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
If I didn't do it, someone in the comments would.
Someone in the comments definitely would be like, oh, that
nigga's crazy. The other problem is, though, is that I
don't see what Drewski did as making fun of CTE. Mm-hmm.
I don't see what Drewski did as a joke about CTE.
He didn't? No, not at all. I think there was

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certain parts of the skit that were comedic, like he
puts on the muscle suit.

Speaker 3 (01:27:20):
That's supposed to be funny.

Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
I don't think he was trying to be funny when, A,
he calls the player in the skit Ray Price.

Speaker 3 (01:27:28):
Like Ray Wright.

Speaker 2 (01:27:29):
So we know who he's talking about. When he kicks
down the door in a hotel and is heard assaulting
the woman, I don't think he did that for jokes.
When he runs up on the girl at the party saying,
go upstairs to my room right now. And then she
says no. And they start arguing, starts calling all kinds
of bitches. I don't think he's doing that for us
to joke at. Even the opening scene where he's on
the ground. You think it's for awareness? what do you

(01:27:51):
think then the Juski is a satirist what he does
is he can do things that are in the realm
of comedy but he's making a point he made a
point about Erica Kirk he made a point about the
pastors this is not just all just for jokes look
at this stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:28:06):
Nigga look how stupid this is look how crazy this
is there's a difference between it being comedy for you
to laugh and the satire.

Speaker 2 (01:28:11):
Of reality and the satire of the point the point
of to me this skit is that A this is
what happens and as an audience you're watching it And
we've seen this happen with multiple players.

Speaker 3 (01:28:22):
Multiple players.

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
And the idea is that we're all watching this as
some type of show.

Speaker 3 (01:28:28):
We're taking it as a show.

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
The players who participated in NFL, who were also in
the comments laughing and carrying it on, Stephon Diggs and
all these other niggas, they understand. that you are participating
in this thing. So it's not like, if you laugh
at the niggas seized up on the ground in the beginning,
to me, that says more about you than it does

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about what Drewski's doing.

Speaker 1 (01:28:52):
Even that, like, he's running from the cops on one
of them, right?

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
James Pierce Jr.

Speaker 7 (01:28:55):
Just....

Speaker 2 (01:28:58):
The exact same situation, running from the cops, ramming the cops,
all that shit. And so to me, those are things
that he's doing for us to laugh. You can laugh
if you want to, anything can be funny, but I
don't think he's doing that for us to laugh at.
I think when he's in the studio with the girl,
that can be funny. Oh, I'm a rapper now. That
could be funny. The muscle suit and all that shit,

(01:29:18):
that could be funny. I don't think Drewski is making
a joke about the domestic violence that these niggas do
for us to be laughing at. And to me, a
lot of the people in the comments who are like, oh,
this shit is crazy, or even if they are laughing
emojis in the comments, these are also people who I
know have sensitivity to humanity. And so I think the

(01:29:41):
fact that people, there is no real backlash to this.

Speaker 3 (01:29:44):
T.J.

Speaker 2 (01:29:44):
Ward is mad. Maybe a couple other people are mad.
But the majority of people, I haven't seen that much
people mad. I see people who understand the point. I mean,
Jamila was in there. Van Lathan was in there. A
lot of people who we know to be empathetic to
societal issues are in there. And they all understand what

(01:30:05):
the issue, what's going being said in the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:30:07):
So for you to be mad about it, you can
have your... Right to be mad.

Speaker 1 (01:30:11):
He said, I'm going to put my sensitivity.

Speaker 2 (01:30:13):
That's what I was going to say. And to me,
he said, I'm a football player and I feel a
type of way about it and leave it at that.

Speaker 3 (01:30:19):
All of the, this is the only thing that can
be joked about.

Speaker 2 (01:30:21):
Stop. Stop. You're doing a lot. You're doing a lot now.
That's not what's going on here.

Speaker 3 (01:30:26):
Give him a grace.

Speaker 2 (01:30:26):
Give him a grace.

Speaker 3 (01:30:27):
No, I'm not mad at him for feeling a way.
I'm not mad at knowing him to.

Speaker 2 (01:30:30):
Once you're in the trenches, I think when you make
the decision to become a football player and you're successful
at it, To your point, they became football players to
get money, to be wealthy. That's the risk that comes
with it. I think they all accept that. But they
all have to also accept the possibility of... This could happen.
And also, yeah, we talk about it in the realm

(01:30:51):
of football, but boxers have CTE too. It's a neurological
disease that affects the brain. If you're taking traumatic... Head injuries.
This can happen to you. You could be a NASCAR driver.
You get a lot of pounding in the head.

Speaker 7 (01:31:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:31:03):
You could be a NASCAR driver and get CTE because
you crash your car, you flip over 10 million times,
and your head is being rattled inside the car. MMA fighter. Oh, shit.
All of these places you can find. And other thing is,
the truth is with CTE, you don't know it's CTE
until after you die. You have to die for us
to know that you have CTE because your brain can't
be studied. No, no, no. We know Antonio Bronco. I mean, yeah.

(01:31:27):
But I'm just saying, like, medically. What? So, we know it.
I think that's just who he is. I think there's
two things. I think he's a dickhead, but I think
he has something going on.

Speaker 1 (01:31:38):
Oh, you think he was this before CT?

Speaker 3 (01:31:41):
He was a troublemaker before.

Speaker 6 (01:31:42):
I think he got an unpacked trauma that we just
seeing it play out through his actions.

Speaker 1 (01:31:46):
Because of CT.

Speaker 2 (01:31:46):
Behavioral shit. Oh no, you think he was in a
separate class? No, I think that, I don't know. I mean,
he probably should have been because he seems like a
nigga who is like a little troublemaker.

Speaker 1 (01:31:57):
Well, he should have been, but because he knew how
to play football, they let him just do whatever you
want to do. Okay. Because we see that.

Speaker 7 (01:32:02):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:32:05):
Anyways, last topic. Last topic.

Speaker 1 (01:32:07):
We went over because, God damn it, we always go over.
Last topic. There actually is a clip here.

Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:32:14):
That I would love for us to play. Before we
play that, I do want to give our guests congratulations.
Kwanza Jones and her husband are now the owners.

Speaker 2 (01:32:25):
Of the Padres. San Diego Padres.

Speaker 1 (01:32:27):
A baseball team.

Speaker 3 (01:32:29):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:32:29):
America's sport. And there's been a lot of celebration around
this happening. They are billionaires, if I'm not mistaken, or
they bought it for a billion.

Speaker 2 (01:32:37):
And I believe she is the first black majority owner
of a baseball team. Yes. Which is incredible.

Speaker 1 (01:32:48):
Now, she sat on T.I. 's podcast and just was
talking about, you know, her getting to where she's at
and her Something that I found interesting was her conversation
regarding her recalling being ignored and underestimated to deliver a
donation to her alma mater, which is Princeton. Now, Princeton

(01:33:11):
is a PWI. It is an Ivy League. If you
could play this clip, it's interesting to me. And I
want to ask you, especially coming from our talk around investments,
your thoughts on this clip.

Speaker 9 (01:33:22):
I think about this. I grew up in Washington, D.C.,
Nation's capital.

Speaker 10 (01:33:28):
You see lots of buildings all around with a lot
of different people's names. So when I was in D.C., D.C.
was a majority minority city. And going from D.C.

Speaker 9 (01:33:39):
To Princeton. That's a really big difference from a cultural lens.

Speaker 3 (01:33:44):
I'm sure.

Speaker 10 (01:33:44):
You're not seeing, certainly, people that are looking like you
in every seat. You're seeing, in fact, the opposite of that.
So even when there, you would see names on buildings
like Forbes. I think we know the Forbes names. You
would see names on buildings like Rockefeller. We know the
Rockefeller names. You wouldn't see names on buildings like Kwanzaa.

(01:34:07):
And you wouldn't see names on buildings like Osei.

Speaker 9 (01:34:11):
Uh, so I reached out.

Speaker 10 (01:34:14):
To, and this again is about underestimated, which also connects
to gentrification. Um, I reached out to some of the
development or advancement office at Princeton and asked, huh, interested,
what would it take to be able to give and
donate to the university? If you're interested in a residential

(01:34:37):
college or interested in a dorm or interested in something
like that.

Speaker 9 (01:34:42):
No one got back to me. No one got back
to me.

Speaker 2 (01:34:46):
They answered you back whether or not they was interested.

Speaker 9 (01:34:49):
There you go. So what did I do?

Speaker 10 (01:34:52):
I asked again, waited a few months, asked again. Still,
no one got back to me. Long story short, let's
fast forward to, we did a donation to Princeton and
it was a gift to help increase the student body
and the population.

Speaker 9 (01:35:10):
I'll get the numbers because it's publicly out there.

Speaker 2 (01:35:13):
Okay.

Speaker 9 (01:35:13):
This was.

Speaker 2 (01:35:14):
I wasn't even going to ask.

Speaker 10 (01:35:16):
Well, I'll do it now because it was $ 20 million.

Speaker 2 (01:35:18):
Okay.

Speaker 9 (01:35:19):
$ 20 million.

Speaker 2 (01:35:20):
To get your name on the building.

Speaker 9 (01:35:22):
Well, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:35:23):
And to help a car.

Speaker 10 (01:35:24):
Well, it wasn't even to get the name on the
building because it wasn't that we were going to. I
was just curious. I was asking that out of curiosity. Well,
it took them so long.

Speaker 9 (01:35:34):
To get back.

Speaker 10 (01:35:34):
And by the time I'm like, okay, here's this. They
reached out and then said, okay. How do we find
essentially more folks like you? And I said, that's where
the underestimation comes from.

Speaker 1 (01:35:49):
There's a quote that I saw someone put from someone
on social media. And this is the conversation I want
to have. Shout out to Terrence V.

Speaker 2 (01:35:59):
Soul.

Speaker 1 (01:36:01):
Is it wiser to move on and take your gifts
and talents where they will be appreciated and valued? And
it's that simple. As I listen to this, you got
ignored by people multiple times for a long extended.

Speaker 2 (01:36:15):
Period of time.

Speaker 1 (01:36:17):
And instead of being appreciated, mind you, there's so many causes,
so many nonprofits, so many schools that would have accepted
half of that. But with your name would have responded
because you're inquiring about something and they're not automatically going
to write you off probably because of your name.

Speaker 3 (01:36:34):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:36:35):
Kwanzaa Jones. We talk about how there's applications going into
jobs that you will.

Speaker 2 (01:36:42):
Be automatically disqualified for. As soon as they see the name.
As soon as they see the name.

Speaker 1 (01:36:45):
Which I'm going to assume is what happened here. And
you still gifted this Ivy League, this PWI Institute, $ 20 million.
And it's funny because my best friend, we were talking
about this in the car. She was like, Well, sometimes

(01:37:08):
you like to put your dick on the table. Like,
when we go out, you like to let them know
that you got it and that you not, uh-uh. And
I said, what's crazy is, though, I'm also in a
place that when I'm ignored, when I don't get service,
guess where I choose not to spend that money?

Speaker 4 (01:37:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:37:23):
If we already eat, I got to pay the bill.

Speaker 1 (01:37:25):
I'm not going to die fast.

Speaker 3 (01:37:26):
Run out on the bill, right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:37:28):
But the idea of feeling like I have to prove
myself to white people.

Speaker 2 (01:37:34):
or that I have.

Speaker 1 (01:37:35):
To prove myself to anyone to enter a room, by
giving them my money, after being ignored, after being underestimated,
and she knew she was being that, that's a.

Speaker 2 (01:37:49):
Form of disrespect.

Speaker 1 (01:37:51):
I'm not giving $ 10 to a nigga that I felt
disrespected me.

Speaker 2 (01:37:57):
Yeah. And so to.

Speaker 1 (01:38:01):
Damn, I was about to say something, but then my dogs,
so I'm not going to say it. But I was
about to like, fuck it. I was intentional of being
booked and not having to be in.

Speaker 2 (01:38:13):
Atlanta for InvestFest this year.

Speaker 10 (01:38:16):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:38:16):
After being told that me and my brand were not
welcomed on stage.

Speaker 2 (01:38:22):
Despite what we've done in this industry.

Speaker 3 (01:38:24):
That's fair.

Speaker 1 (01:38:25):
I probably will now no longer attend.

Speaker 2 (01:38:28):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:38:28):
I will support my brothers. Because those are my friends.
But they're not going to get any money from me.

Speaker 2 (01:38:35):
Because I genuinely felt disrespected.

Speaker 3 (01:38:37):
I think that's totally fair.

Speaker 1 (01:38:38):
And so, to me, and mind you, they're black.

Speaker 2 (01:38:41):
I'm still going to promote them. But.

Speaker 1 (01:38:43):
I don't feel in any way and watching her as
a black woman feel the need to even still gift
after being ignored for months, after not even being responded to.
Why the fuck would this be where you decide to
spend your money? And I just I and we talk
about the proximity to whiteness. We've had the conversations of
Jay-Z being in certain rooms because he now makes a
certain amount of money and how when you make a

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certain amount of money, you at least get to enter
the conversations. These motherfuckers didn't even want to speak to you.
They didn't want to respond to your email. They didn't
want to acknowledge you. And you gifted. And now they said, oh,
where are more niggas with money like you?

Speaker 3 (01:39:19):
We need more Kwanzes. We're all the Kwanzes.

Speaker 1 (01:39:22):
This pissed me off so bad because it reminds me that, damn,
when we get to these levels of even having money
to spend with us, nope.

Speaker 2 (01:39:31):
We still want to.

Speaker 1 (01:39:31):
Have the talks and conversations over there.

Speaker 2 (01:39:33):
You don't think she's playing 3D chess, though? Even the
chess was the game. So here's the thing. She put
up $ 20, 000. That means she got a whole much more.

Speaker 1 (01:39:41):
She just bought a baseball.

Speaker 2 (01:39:44):
I see it as an opportunity for us because she's
willing to spend. I wouldn't use the 20 million at Princeton.
I don't care about that because now for me, I'm
thinking maybe Princeton, this is a pipeline that they'll be
more compassionate to people of color who apply to Princeton.

(01:40:07):
Maybe this is that offering that allows that. Also, Kwanzaa Jones. Listen,
there's a podcast called Selective Ignorance. You know what I'm saying? Hey,
you see this? You can spend some money over here,
baby girl. Can you do me a favor real quick?
And I celebrate Kwanzaa. I don't know if you celebrate Kwanzaa. Amanda,

(01:40:30):
you celebrate Kwanzaa?

Speaker 7 (01:40:32):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:40:33):
Do you know what Kwanzaa is about? Go ahead and
educate us.

Speaker 1 (01:40:38):
Well, I'm looking at something. You see I'm researching right
now to make a point real quick.

Speaker 2 (01:40:41):
Okay, go ahead and make your point. No, no, no.
Go ahead. Why? What you bringing up Kwanzaa for?

Speaker 6 (01:40:45):
Kwanzaa is a celebration that occurs after Christmas. And every
day there's a principle attached to the offering Kwanzaa. They
don't do gifts per se. Their quote-unquote gifts is more
necessity things, offerings, and fruits, and and everything.

Speaker 3 (01:41:08):
Dr.

Speaker 6 (01:41:09):
Karenga developed this back in the 60s, you know, for
us to have a sense of pride and dignity, not
just celebrating, you know, a religious-based holiday. So there's seven
principles representing the seven days of Kwanzaa.

Speaker 2 (01:41:25):
Is giving or is generosity supposed to be one of
those things? Yeah, I mean, thank you, D.

Speaker 3 (01:41:32):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 6 (01:41:32):
It's Umoja, which is unity. Kujujakalia, which is self-determination. uh,
Ujima collective work and responsibility. And they all represent a
principle idea. And that's where the, the, the, the name
Kwanzaa come from.

Speaker 2 (01:41:46):
So she's probably rooted in herself.

Speaker 6 (01:41:49):
No, I'm saying, but her parents rooted her. Probably she
was uprooted in this. She's like, that's part of her.
So that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:41:55):
I'm looking at, I'm like, maybe she's not trying to
stand next to them per se. Maybe she's putting her
dick on the table.

Speaker 1 (01:42:02):
Not that she, All I'm saying is you still are
making my point. What's that? It doesn't matter how much
money or how powerful we become. We saw it with Diddy.
We've seen it with other people. As soon as you
start to question or put your dick on the table
with these motherfuckers, you're going to jail. We saw what

(01:42:24):
happened with Bill Cosby. He wanted to buy it. They
came and threw the book at him.

Speaker 2 (01:42:27):
We see Diddy.

Speaker 1 (01:42:27):
Yes, not everyone's perfect, so clearly they're in jail for
other reasons.

Speaker 2 (01:42:30):
But she did it the reverse way. She said, here...
They were saying, yo, I need this. I need to
acquire this.

Speaker 1 (01:42:36):
But even then, that's what I'm saying. Oh, so you think, okay,
so cool. You bought your way into a conversation. Still
doesn't mean you're going to get the respect from them.

Speaker 3 (01:42:44):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:42:44):
It still doesn't mean that. And that's my point. The
putting the dick on the table does what for us
as a community? Sure, could it get you into more rooms?

Speaker 2 (01:42:53):
Cool.

Speaker 1 (01:42:53):
Does it get us black Super Bowl performers?

Speaker 2 (01:42:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:42:56):
But when we really get down to the root, that
$ 20 million could have been used elsewhere. I'm also just
saying me, if we're talking about principles or the things
that we live on, bro, I'm not sitting here paying
my way to respect. I'm not paying my way to
a person that literally doesn't even want to acknowledge or
respond to me because my name or because of how
I look or because of the community I come from.

Speaker 4 (01:43:18):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:43:21):
Yeah, I don't know. Like, I mean, listen, you put
your dick on a table, you might lose your dick.
They might chop that shit off. That too. And now
you draw back a nub and you just stand in
there looking like, damn, why did I? But she got
enough money to pay for a prosthetic. Maybe she might
buy another dick. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:43:38):
But it's also not always about, like, how much money
you have either. Because we've seen black people with a
lot of money.

Speaker 2 (01:43:44):
Blow it.

Speaker 1 (01:43:45):
No, it's not even that they blow it.

Speaker 2 (01:43:46):
They're still black.

Speaker 1 (01:43:48):
When you walk into a goddamn room, like, It's so
crazy because, shout out to one of my best friends,
she loves making the reservation as her husband's name, Dr.

Speaker 2 (01:43:59):
Rollins.

Speaker 1 (01:44:01):
Because when they walk in as a black couple in
a lot of these only white establishments, she makes them
address him as doctor because they act.

Speaker 2 (01:44:07):
Like they don't even want to give him his name. Right. Ooh.

Speaker 1 (01:44:10):
They also... Sometimes, hold on, don't even treat him as
such until they realize he's that. Like, the respect isn't
just given because they're black.

Speaker 3 (01:44:19):
Because they're black, right.

Speaker 1 (01:44:20):
And so it doesn't matter that he owns his own
practice and that he's worth a couple mil.

Speaker 10 (01:44:23):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:44:23):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:44:24):
You're black first. So it doesn't matter how much money
and shit you make sometimes. Cool, you get in the room. Cool,
you get a response to your email. Cool, they acknowledge
you and say, where are more of you like? Like,
where are more of you at?

Speaker 2 (01:44:34):
But.

Speaker 1 (01:44:35):
I don't want to fucking spend $ 20 million to get
a fucking email response.

Speaker 6 (01:44:38):
But do you think now that she's probably going to
have conversations now, I would imagine, with them now, now
that she's in.

Speaker 2 (01:44:44):
Yeah, but that's also still a school that doesn't accept
many of us.

Speaker 3 (01:44:48):
I mean, also... Is your name.

Speaker 1 (01:44:49):
On the building going to allow more black students to
be able to afford this university or even be accepted? Like,
what does your name on that building do for really
us to even attend an esteemed school like this?

Speaker 3 (01:45:00):
I'm just glad that you have.

Speaker 2 (01:45:02):
landed at this place because this is exactly what Van
Lathan was talking about. All that capitalism, all that money,
this shit is going to save nobody. Hold on, and this.

Speaker 1 (01:45:12):
Brings back my point. This idea of community, this is
a black person who could form community and she's forming
it at a PWI with niggas that didn't even respond
to her.

Speaker 2 (01:45:21):
Yeah, I don't know why. I don't know what she thinks.
I'm sure she has pride in her school because that's
her alma mater, but yeah, I don't know why. I
wish T.I.

Speaker 1 (01:45:29):
Asked back like 20 million. to a school that ignored you,
I get that's your alma mater.

Speaker 3 (01:45:35):
But why not?

Speaker 4 (01:45:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:45:36):
Why not?

Speaker 2 (01:45:37):
Why not give that money to Tuskegee or Spelman or
Morris Brown who needs it? Or, you know, I mean,
there's a lot of places that money could have gone
and like.

Speaker 1 (01:45:47):
Publicly right now, because of whatever Trump administration is doing,
there are a ton of students currently that are not
going to be able to go to school this season,
this semester.

Speaker 2 (01:45:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:45:57):
Because of financial aid, because of whatever the goddamn administration
is doing with Pell Grant, student loans, and what needs
to be paid for these universities to know that they're
going to get paid, right? So seeing that this is
a current public conversation, and again, I don't know when
this $ 20 million was made, but there to me is just, again,
when we talk about the midterms coming up, when we

(01:46:19):
talk about actually making a difference in what is currently
impacting and affecting our community- Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:46:26):
This is where I would want leaders to put their
money at. But we're assuming that she's in line with
how we're leaning. We don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:46:33):
We don't know her politics.

Speaker 1 (01:46:34):
She could be very aligned with the woman that sat
across from you on CNN.

Speaker 2 (01:46:36):
Oh, I mean, at that level of money, at that
level of money, to me, it's more likely that she
is than she isn't. Damn.

Speaker 3 (01:46:45):
I don't know that to be a fact.

Speaker 2 (01:46:46):
That would hurt.

Speaker 3 (01:46:47):
We don't know. I'm not putting anything on her, but
I'm just saying.

Speaker 2 (01:46:50):
And then that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:46:51):
We celebrate all black people. We want all black people
to win, but also all skinfolk and kinfolk.

Speaker 2 (01:46:57):
Well, I think the verdict is still out, if there's
any doubt. I think it's to be continued. But also,
we're talking about colleges. Like, That $ 20 million could be
used for public school. That's a big deal.

Speaker 3 (01:47:09):
Middle schools need the bread.

Speaker 2 (01:47:11):
No, no, no. I don't want to go to Dr. Umar. No, Dr.

Speaker 3 (01:47:15):
Umar is a 49er. I'm not doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:47:17):
I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that.

Speaker 3 (01:47:25):
He plays for the 49ers.

Speaker 2 (01:47:26):
You got a scissor? Yeah. I'm not doing that with him.
But there's public schools. There's middle schools.

Speaker 3 (01:47:33):
There's high schools.

Speaker 2 (01:47:34):
A lot elementary schools programs that need that bread a
hell of a lot more than because let's be clear
like Princeton has has graduated a lot of Kwanzaa Joneses
as far as billionaires multi-hundred millionaires they can get the
money regardless yeah Princeton is never ever ever ever gonna
be in a situation that damn the budget is fucked

(01:47:56):
up this year because yeah we're in need so like Yeah,
she can do what she wants with her money, but
I don't personally understand. Even with the dick on the table,
I understand the desire for revenge, quote unquote revenge, or
letting it be known that you're not going to chump
me off. But like.

Speaker 1 (01:48:16):
yeah but revenge to me for what like taking that
money elsewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:48:20):
Revenge to me would be like oh my name isn't
on your campus but i have a building at every
single hbcu in america because yes like to me that
that would be my level my version of revenge not
like not what i'm gonna gift i'm gonna give y'all
20 million.

Speaker 6 (01:48:38):
Dollars and the only thing that troublesome for me is
that um That was her alma mater. I would be
hurt if my alma mater didn't want to acknowledge me.
Because whatever my lived experience in that school is, for
me to even get to a point where I want
to donate like that, that means I fucked with y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:48:54):
So y'all don't fuck with me.

Speaker 1 (01:48:56):
It's the pride here. And that's one of the seven
deadly sins.

Speaker 2 (01:48:59):
It's pride that.

Speaker 1 (01:49:00):
Made you not take that hurt and actually go and
make a difference within, you know, other schools or universities
or communities that really could have used that money to.

Speaker 2 (01:49:10):
In a way that Princeton, you know. Just doesn't need.
I hope there's more to the story. And I also think,
you know, we're new to her. We are. I'd like
to see what she does. Let's see what happens. I
hope that, you know, she's on the right side of things.

Speaker 1 (01:49:22):
Let's see what happens. Anyways, guys, we'll talk about the
darkness of all of the passing aways in our bonus episode.
So make sure you check us out on Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:49:34):
I love how she just doubled down.

Speaker 3 (01:49:36):
We are.

Speaker 2 (01:49:36):
It's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:49:37):
No, it's the passing. It's okay. We're going to talk about.

Speaker 3 (01:49:39):
How- All of those that we'll never speak to again.

Speaker 2 (01:49:42):
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:49:43):
It's just the Grim Reaper- bucked up the letters.

Speaker 2 (01:49:46):
It was supposed to be.

Speaker 1 (01:49:47):
Donnie, not Dolly.

Speaker 2 (01:49:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Like, Donald
Trump was supposed to get that, not Dolly Parton. Like,
what's happening? Like, did we.

Speaker 1 (01:49:55):
You're taking the wrong whites. You're taking the wrong whites. Anyways, guys,
check out our bonus episode that drops on Friday.

Speaker 4 (01:50:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:50:01):
Thank y'all so much. Also, if you don't listen Friday,
I assume it's because you're traveling, you're getting ready for
your Labor Day weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:50:08):
Big Labor Day. Please, please, please do not drink and drive.
Please be smart in your.

Speaker 1 (01:50:14):
in your liquor intake. Ladies, watch your drinks. Fellas, Watch
your pockets.

Speaker 2 (01:50:22):
I don't know what to fucking tell y'all. Be careful
in the parkway, Eastern Parkway. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:50:26):
If you're in New York, Eastern Parkway in Brooklyn, watch
your surroundings. And I will be in Jamaica. It's always
the Jamaican Day Parade.

Speaker 4 (01:50:34):
Oh, oh, oh.

Speaker 2 (01:50:34):
The Caribbean. Jamaican Day was a couple weeks ago. It's
the Caribbean Day Parade.

Speaker 1 (01:50:39):
Anyways, guys, thank y'all yet again for tuning in to
another episode of Selected Ignorance, where curiosity lives, controversy thrives,
and conversations matter.

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