Selective Ignorance: Ep. 72 | 3 Nights, White Knights and Israelites - Selective Ignorance with Mandii B

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance. However,

(00:03):
before we get to this week's episode, I want to
remind you guys to purchase my book No Holds Barred,
a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
So feel free to go to your local bookstores preferably
queer owned, black owned, or woman owned to support them,
but also just click the button on Amazon, Barnes and Nobles,
or wherever you read your books. Again.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
That is No Holds Barred, a dual manifesto of sexual
exploration and power, written by yours truly and my co
host of the Decisions Decisions podcast, Weezy.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Make sure y'all get that. Now, let's get to this
week's episode. This is Mandy B.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Welcome to Selective Ignorance, a production of The Black Effect
Podcast Network and Iart Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah ya ya ya ya ya ya ya ya yo.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Welcome to another episode Selective Ignorance. Baby, I'm your host
Mandy B and Begs. We are getting into all of
the ignorant shit this week.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
First up, and this is America.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Half of America took their assets to New York City
this weekend to witness Jay z or his three show
concert series a Yankee Stadium, and we have thoughts and
so do other people on the internet that we feel
the need to respond to. Furthermore, we are getting into
Noah Wells's death and timeline and whether or not we

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as a community are at all safe being the only
one in a space of color, and the conversations that
you should probably be having with your children. Then, of
course this is not a sports podcast, but the w
NBA responds to the Republican letter in defense of Caitlin Clark. Y'all,
you know we talked about it before. Can we have

(01:45):
sports without racism?

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Well, you know, y'all know our answers to that already,
and it cannot. And then in celebrities say the darness things.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Guys, Kodak Black has a new group name called the KKK,
And no, we're not leaning into Kodact Black and the
crazy things he says, but we are going to get
into the misinformation that's online and how the continuation of
false narratives and misinformation is a detriment to our community.

(02:15):
And Baby, we're also going to do all of this
with some laughs and some joke in between, because I'm
starting off being real selectively ignored baby.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
But before then, let me introduce the guys sitting next
to me. We got my superfriend.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Inside O g Pot legend in the game A king
would it doing dream? You are living the dream actually
because you got the magazine. You got this magazine. But
for me and Joab who spent our heart.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
White, I even got it. I ain't even got it.
It's on the way.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
Yeah, hey, y'all, you want to go ahead.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
For the people watching the table, yeah, we started office.
It is story time because well because I need people
to know why you are also named the O g
Pot Legend. For the people who come in and are
new here, for the.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
People who are like, why do I have to care
about these voices in the podcast space?

Speaker 4 (03:20):
You know?

Speaker 2 (03:20):
But also Maddie Eve call fuck that.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
I am sick of not being a part of the
dream though care packages that go out. I just cut
cut figures out when I send me the hoodie.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Oh yeah, shout out to Yomi who's not here because
our team Big Yomi is on tour.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Uh wait call uh crazy and Jordan's so she's doing
all the fan contexts just so super freaking dope.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
I love it. She manifested it and then this guy
walks in.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, shout out to Dreamville man, listen. So
it's always I love a good story, of course I do.
You know I'm big on relationships.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah you are.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
And you know one of my good homies over there,
Felton Brown.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
He's a vice president of Dreamville. Me and him go
back man.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
For even when he was he was doing the blog ship,
he had a joint called part of Me Duke and
he's just he's just he's just overall just dope human being.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
But anyway, he had faced Timmy a few days ago.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
And he's like, yo, yo, yo, look look, look.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
And go ahead.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
And when he showed me that, he he went right
to the ship and he's like yo. I was like,
what the fuck. He's like, bro, this is what we
was working on, said yo. And he said, what's your addie,
And I'm gonna send this one to you right now.
I was like, I'm gonna buy it. He's like, now
I'm gonna say you this, I'll still buy it because
you know it's dope. But what's so fascinating? One hundred
and forty four pages of just pure excellence And I'm

(04:56):
missing the summarize for everybody.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Thanks magazine by the way, y'all print.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
One hundred forty four pages.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
But what was what was so dope is that Cole
I guess he saw a void in how hip hop
is being represented from the from what he came up under,
which is real rap journalists. And yeah, so so you
know what he did was a symbol, damn near the
avengers of this fucking rap journalism ship. So I mean,

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I'm just gonna read off some of the names, and
then some of them are friends of ours too. I mean,
starting off, you had editor in chief Bone Sue Thompson.
I mean that's that's also the guy you know, Big
Bone Sue. Jerry Barrow O g Uh ship, Phillip Sung,
the design director shout out to him, and we.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
Then we're gonna get to it. Then we're gonna get
to it.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Hotep tim Ho tep, I said, because it's the ship
that she was about to get into. Seven I shot
a tim Hop ivy Andy Paul the legend. I always
look her name.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
V Yes, yes, Paul cantor let O G you know
what I'm saying. Uh Ship.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Maurice Garland shout out, Maurice Ship Jermaine Hall, Laurence Hill
contributed to the ship. Oh man, uh Jamaine Hall. John
Kennedy shouting, JFK, you know, William catch him, shout out,
will Catch.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
Keith Nelson, Shout out my brother, Keith Nelson.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
Sean Malcolm shouting, shouting, Sean Malcolm, Malcolm, shout out, Sean.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
Shout out to Yo, Shout out to mat Out to
my brother Yo. Phillips, mister mack.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying. And I'm not admitting everybody.
I'm not on many anybody on purpose. But these are
these are the hitters right here. Naming Jordan's.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
It goes, it goes on.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
This is what this is. I feel like you got
to buy two of these.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
But anyway, so in there, it has a lot of
editorial thing pieces. One of the dope ships that is
in here is little YACHTI in his pops. They gotta
spread a feature with him and his dad and it's phenomenal.

Speaker 5 (07:03):
But get to the editorials, so you have so you
have some behind the scenes stuff with Cole and his processes.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
But then they have all these feature stories. Man, and
Glorilla's in there and they featured her. But when when
felt it hit me man. Uh, I'm trying to get
to the page the spread.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
Man, he fucked my whole day up. I shed a tear.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
You know it's interesting because I'm always in the in
the mindset that are we forgetting who we are in
this modern day hip hop culture. We have so much
divisiveness in our culture between agism, between who we like
who we don't like, and we don't celebrate each other enough.
We don't celebrate you enough. We don't celebrate you enough.

(08:00):
You know what I'm saying. Why why do we have
to you know, uh have fifty million downloads or some
ship to be celebrated. We put in the work already.
We put in a lot of work. Shout out to
us too for you know, under a year doing.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
This podcast, we hit a million, y'all. You know what
I'm saying. You know, they guess they.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Love we got to screenshet. You know, people don't believe
numbers if they don't see it. But now they got
the photo shot nothing.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Yeah, everything, Yes, everybody's cynical it So I'm trying to
find an actual spread.

Speaker 4 (08:35):
But they did a dope feature of the late Great
Combat Jack. Shoutout long lived Combat Reggio.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Shout out to Cole back in twenty fourteen when he
put out the Forest Hill Drive album.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
The best album.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
He only did three interviews that year, and we were
one of the three, and that's intentional. He didn't do
a lot of press back then, but he identified y'all.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Got one of the Forest Hills Drives yea, yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Us Angie Martinez and I forgot who the third one
was and.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
Forgive me twenty fourteen?

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Was that not Elliott the Crown series.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
I don't know if he did a crime. No, he
didn't do it.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
He didn't do He probably doing that at the time,
but he didn't.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Yeh yeah, maybe because I remember one of the meals.
I flew back from Vegas to New York to go
to it. But it might not have been for Drive.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
They did a tribute to DJ Clark Kent Rest in Peace.
They also did one on Dallas Penn.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Oh wow.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
They showed some of the photography with the mural and
stuff like that. But he did the defeature on Rage
on Combat and I thought that was super dope. But
just to give you all the backstory with that, yeah,
Cole was part of that and he.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
Came up on the show What do you Remember?

Speaker 3 (09:47):
We did a phenomenal interview with him and combat bought
his son and asked a couple of questions. Shot the
Chuma and man, it was dope, man, and shot to
Brian Summons, who shot the imagery for it that went viral,
the black and white with Coles a face on there.
It's just so much history. And this is the thing
that I appreciate these guys for. Even Look, Cole is

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a fucking multi platinum, generational talent, generational artists. He don't
have like him for him to have time to do
this ship and have the intentionality and care and concern
about this ship. I thought it was outstanding, man. So
shout out to the whole team. And I guess that's
that is a testament to his team too, right, Yeah
for sure, But yeah, man, shout.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
Out to I love it.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
I love it. I love it.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
I love it, and you're gonna get yours. Yours is
probably in your your your fucking in the way.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
I don't track yet. Do you not think I haven't
been looking for it.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
I definitely check my email, like multiple times.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
It's cool, it's cool, it's cool.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
I need it before the seventeen Yeah, I definitely.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
I need to drop this week.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
Oh that's that's fine, crazy righty?

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Do you know the artists who? Who the artist artist?

Speaker 3 (11:00):
I don't know who it is, I wonder, Oh yes, yes, yes,
said Dash Arts. Illustration by Dash Art. And shot the
Paul cant who wrote this. I didn't even get a chance.
Obviously you saw me open it up, right, So I didn't.
I didn't know who wrote it. I didn't know bones
Wuit wrote it, but I had a feeling Paul did
because he did an article on rage in the Vulture.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
I remember, that's the way. So yeah, shot the poor
Cant man.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
This is so dope, by the way, y'all, and and
all of this said if you haven't, if you if
you're like under a rock or comprehension skills just turned
all the way there.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Hey, King, you were.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Probably the longest potter that I know, Like you were
potting before probably you said.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
Twenty child the comment so officially twenty ten ten.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
When but when we really really went and overdrive we
figured out, oh ship, we committed the thing that was
twenty thirteen as Loudspeakers was formed. Now, so that two
and a half three years. Was more so like we
just it is a lunch table. We just we Yeah,
it's iniguation.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
We were potting four years before I got on a microphone,
and then like just everything about combat Jack and loud speakers, birth,
all these black audience to be able to do what
we do today.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
The pod Father, and then y'all, damn, I didn't even
shot the poor candy, he said. By the time of
Combats tragic death from colon cancer December twenty seventeen, the
show a mass four hundred and fifty recorded episodes.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
Yeah, we've been We was on a run. I don't
I don't even know the number. We just yeah, four
hundred crazy, crazy damn.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
And that was before Patreon. That wasn't bone.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
Yeah, that was a bonus. Were just yeah, yeah, here's episodes.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Y'all was talking, Yeah, yeah, was talking.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
I just want to add when you said we were talking.
So when I do the episodes, right, you know, when
I'm in the program and.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
Shit like that, you know, how much, on average how
many words we speak on this pod.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
I don't even want to know, because you thirty thousand,
that's a minimum ship Oh wow, wow, most of it.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yeah, we also got the King of headlines put some
respect on his name, Jason John Lee.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
Pop Less and all you niggas up, up with up,
up with up?

Speaker 2 (13:18):
What's going on? Man?

Speaker 4 (13:20):
I'm still recovering from my fomo.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
I came today in all my blue. Are you sure
I can't? I mean, I mean you.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Could catch a flight after we record. I could tell it.
I could still got time.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
I did look it up if from want delta, I
think four is like the only one, and then I
would get in at like or maybe it's for something,
and I would get in at seven fifty eight, and
then I'm like, plus traffic.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
Would you get in at LaGuardia?

Speaker 2 (13:45):
That was JFK.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
We had to do LaGuardia Newark. I feel like it
would be one of those.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Would actually be closer to the.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
W and boom yeah yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
It might be Newark, might be away. Well, there's a
lot of flights to Newark. But I came in to
day in my blue. You know what.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
I'm Atlanta had bro changed. Yeah, But all Atlanta niggas
in the group chat, yo, where you at?

Speaker 2 (14:09):
We're in the group, our group chat right now, him
sending all the all the goddamn.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
Like all Atlanta niggas. I'm like, well, I'm I can't
saying it was like, you know, I'm sick of you.

Speaker 4 (14:22):
I'm sick of me too. Bro.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Well, guys this last week, last week's episodes were recorded early. Yes,
so I didn't really get to give you guys my
experience in knowledge. Now Here's the thing I don't have
much to say about because I went there for work.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
I was at the convention for two days.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
How was what I will say, Well, I didn't go
to any other concert. I was like, I went there
last year as well and worked every freaking day.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
I had an on.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
Stage moment at the Dome were we had an interview.
I was working, and then I left right after because
I went to New Orleans last year right after OKAC
in the south of France. So by the time I
got to New Orleans, Babe, I was tired. This year,
I was like, you know what, I'm going to enjoy
New Orleans. I have no friends that enjoy New Orleans.
So my boyfriend met me on Sunday once I wrapped

(15:23):
up work, and we got to explore New Orleans.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
I will say, in terms.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
Of essence fest the internet is very much liar. The
longest line at Essence Fest at the Convention Center, call
it reparations.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
If you will, was target.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Oh yeah, oh my god, whatever P and G products
y'all wanted. If that is reparations for y'all, this boycott
that we allegedly are supposed.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
To go be on is cap.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
It was the longest line all the days I went.
I will say, Beauty con wonderful.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
I never saw so many bitches jumping for Cuchie wash
in my life.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
They was throwing out the hert fantasy box. They got
the budget of fashion.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
It was okay, but what is it like? What it's
cuci wash? Is it good? I ain't used it, so
this is not an ad. But you know, do you
ask me what I watched?

Speaker 3 (16:22):
You?

Speaker 2 (16:22):
What the hell?

Speaker 4 (16:23):
Hey, king?

Speaker 2 (16:24):
But no, it was it was dope.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
I actually just got to enjoy New Orleans for the
city that it is.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
I ate.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
I made sure I didn't take my Skinny Girls shop
before I went, so I didn't take it for a month,
just so I could eat in New Orleans this year.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
So I ate, I am.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
I told y'all one of my the joys of life
for me is live music. And live bands. So went
to Freshman Street, went to you know, was on uh
Bourbon Street every night. But let's get into it a
few things that I realized, here goes.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
My selective ignorance. Okay, we're gonna.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Start off with the one, starting off with the culture
of New Orleans, and by that I did not know
the New Orleans It baby accent was everyone's.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
I thought it was a black accent.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
No, I thought it was.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
I thought it was the Lil Waynes. I thought it
was the masterpiece of it all. I've only ever in
my life, and yes, I haven't been in New Orleans
that much, but I thought it was our accent. Baby,
I'm there. I'm not even gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
I think I asked about three or four different service
what's your ethnicity?

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Because they're coming up to the table. I met an
Asian at about four white people.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
This sounded like fucking master p and I'm like, I
felt like at any moment they were gonna say the
N word. And I was just listening extra hard because
they sounded black.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Videos that have been going viral for these a couple
of years. Last year there was there was an Asian
man who owns a restaurant down.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
I forget what his.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
Name, but he he he came from Korea, I think
or Taiwan, but you hear him talk.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
We was walking by there was like one of the
doormen outside of the hotels on Bourbon Street and the
music started playing and he just started dancing.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
So I started dancing with him, and he said, don't.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Get it started, and I'm like, white, hold on white,
Like if he was in Georgia, I would think there's
a Confederate fight on the back.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
And he just and I'm like, oh my god. Secondly,
m I felt like I was in g t A
the NPC characters on Bourbon Street. No no, no, no no no
no no no no.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
Still let you drink Hennessy and all that ship Hennessy.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
First off, I was on shrooms, Miley and liquor okay.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
And literally felt like literally felt like I was in
ze bag.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
The street.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
It was crazy.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
We went into one bar and we were just looking
around and it was like this isn't real. Like our
bartender left us to go to work. At the front door.
This security guard started doing the bouts, started just taking
the security guard babes, what are you securing not that as.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Secure.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
So that was crazy, okay, And so all of that
happened here we go.

Speaker 4 (19:43):
I also, okay.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
No, actually, no disclaimers. I believe in black love and
I want my sisters to find love in black men.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
M hm.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
And I know it's hard because there's already a lot
of groups of men that are not available to us.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
You know, we can say, I mean, we could start
with the incarcerated, and that's well, let me get through,
let me get through it.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
We could start with the incarcerated, even though that's you know,
we're against the system here, I get so, ladies, I know,
unfortunately black men are incarcerated at larger rates.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Than we would like.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
Bridge that gap, we don't. Okay.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Secondly, y'all know, y'all know, we got y'all know, we
got the gaze. They don't want us, ladies. It's okay.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
And we're not homophobic over here. We love all the letters,
but they for us.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Okay. Then we got the black men that want to
play in snow what we're gonna do about that? Can't
do nothing about that, right, so okay.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
And of course, depending on your age, depending, there's also
been just groups of people that are available to you.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
Then you've got geographic location.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
Proximity all that.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Why black men do we have to create another group
of men that make it hard for black women to
find black love. I was on Canal Street. Eight blocks,
were gonna get into it? Eight blocks about.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
Twenty niggas a block, okay, And I'm looking at I
was like, are these the Greeks?

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Okay? So okay? Was it the cues? I was like,
NBA season isn't blakers?

Speaker 4 (21:43):
Watch observer from a distance.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
So I'm like, what is happening here?

Speaker 4 (21:47):
You just can't keep going right?

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Maybe maybe now I don't seeing.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
Them in Harlem.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
I don't seen them on the belt line, But ain't
nothing like this group out of saw out there in Knowlleds.
So these brothers, by the way, I looked it up
because I was like, this is a different group.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
They are. I think, I h el's are their name
or is their group or something like that. Basically that
the Christian Israelites, well hold on, let me keep going.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
Not Christian. Yeah, that that they go by the Bible Bible.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
I don't think it's the same Bible. I don't know
what it is.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
They go by the Old Testament.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
I believe, and I think their thing is just a
principality thing, not necessarily the religious aspect. But I know
they do preach that, you know, the children of Israel
are in the America.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Well, let me tell you this.

Speaker 4 (22:47):
As we walk that's all I know.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
As we walked by and I started hearing their preachings,
I look at my homegirl.

Speaker 4 (22:52):
Did you stop?

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Hold on? I'm gonna tell you. I look at my homegirl.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
I said, man, would you like if your nigga did
this on a Saturday?

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Like, what's y'all pussy get wet? For a nigga who
came out on the corner with all his brothers smewing
these thoughts? I said, would you pussy to get wet?
Didn't think so.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
So then I look at these brothers and I just
look and I look at all. There's a lot of
them dressed up song got little robes on. By the way,
I've never seen a group of men's like this in
my life. Not one nigga was over at three and
I was like, okay, these are the black incelts. That's
what this group is. I'm getting Okay, I haven't seen it.

Speaker 4 (23:37):
I have seen it.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
The person what I said, I was crying, not one
nigga was over three.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
So anyways, we're walking by to go to this party
called Queer Space. Shout out to Monica. So we're just
walking past them, and they're like saying something to this
white group of people, and we don't engage.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
We just look at our homeboy and we laugh.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
Damn.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
The Master of the Purple and Gold must have felt
attacked in his soul, or perhaps he doesn't believe women
can chuckle, because he goes to ask us a question
on his microphone. By the way, Hey ladies, are y'all
the heads of your household? And do you pay bills?

(24:31):
And then baby, we looked around and we said, yeah,
we do, actually we pay our own bills. And he
goes in it's because you don't know how to shut
your mouth. It's because you're loud.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
It's because as women, you need to learn to be
subservient to the man.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
That's why you got to pay your own bills.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
It just starts going and then so I go, oh, fuck, nigga,
get pulled away.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
I get pulled away. I said, shout out to our camp. Well,
I was actually we were done working, but I was
with the people I'm working, and they were like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
This isn't a podcast. Yes, and then the party because
they're like, this isn't a part.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
I got a podcast.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Nigga's serious, but I wanted to turn out.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
But as soon as he said that, mind you, I'd
already walked about three four blocks hearing hearing their So ladies,
if on Saturdays he puts on a purple and gold
T shirt and says he's going to the park's going
to the corner, first off, you would an ugly nigga.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
He not above three. I'm gonna tell you now. I
saw them all terrible. I saw all.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
But thirdly, if I said, secondly, I don't know the
man don't respect you, probably don't like women, and you
should be beware because it's they that's not yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
No, no no.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
They preached with them niggas in that Afghanistan and doing
all at the park, holding hands without no women because
they don't want women to enjoy parks. Them niggas in
Afghaniste and games hell to try to just be gay.
That's what's happening here. That's what's happening here. How do
you keep women from enjoying parks?

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Music? Like everything, in life and so none, no, no,
there's no journalists.

Speaker 4 (26:19):
These women know what I'm saying. There's women who are
part of that too.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
There is a journalist right now. He went and started
walking around the park in Afghanistan. These niggas real friendly.
He's like, he's like asking all the niggas on the lawn, like,
how is this fun?

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Where's the like? Y'all just like to party with no women?
Mind you? He gave he gave white gay journalists and
he's going around. He sees two of them getting real friendly.
He's like, hey, what do y'all doing? And they run
from each other.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
He's like, oh, y'all are really touchy and affectionate without
women around, huh. And it's like it was really really
interesting and telling me because there's also like women journalists
out there right now who are going to to certain
parks early enough to just see the park, and as
soon as the park's open they have to leave because
they're women. So, by the way, we'll talk about this

(27:09):
later if you haven't yet. There have been one hundred
and forty laws that have banned women's rights in Afghanistan,
and again we talked about it last week, right, well,
Texas is looking to add the Bible into public schools.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
When one does it another doesn't.

Speaker 4 (27:25):
You talk about it a lot though, upholding what patriarchy?

Speaker 1 (27:29):
And when I tell you, if y'all look at what's
happening in Afghanistan right now and again and we'll talk
about it, I know you know, they tried to brainwash
us that Afghanistan is this terrible, terrible fucking land of
people because of Osama bin Laden and all the things.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
That happened here a non eleven poppy, But those are,
but those are.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
There are women and children and families over there navigating
normal life too, and it's just sad to see like
that that is their reality.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
So look into that. Also, look into these Israelites, bitch,
because the ghetto, the ghetto.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
Would what I want?

Speaker 2 (28:09):
What you just heard? What I want? What you about
to ask?

Speaker 3 (28:11):
I think life survived balance Right now? My thing is,
would you have a one on one conversation with a
member of the is your like, you know what, just
to just to because I think that, Look I don't,
I don't I've seen them, I haven't engaged with them.
I do understand if that's the construct that they are

(28:32):
operating in then they're just going to give you that
because everything else outside of it, they're trying to in
their mind correct.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
Yeah, they think this is the proper way to live. Correct.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
So that's the part of it, you know what I mean.
And I think that having dialogue.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
They're thinking that this is the proper way to live
is the problem.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Because they're going off of the script. They're going off
of the it's they are taking. I mean, it's the
same thing that that conservatives is a conservative movement, right,
and they're taking those parts of the Bible to try
to subjugate people and police people's specifically women's behavior and
all of that.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
Same way they.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Took Nature Boy down. I need them to say, these
knicks down, lock them away. But the hurt feelings FBI, Yeah,
get them, get him out of here, get him out
of here. Let's get into this is America. Don't got

(29:32):
your slipping. You said you had, FOMO.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
The entire country has been talking about over the weekend
Jay Z's concert series in Yankee Stadium. Now what's crazy
is this was talked about so much a couple of
months ago. When the released it went, it sold out immediately.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Then we had the room. Then we then they added
the third day, then we saw the roots was also this.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
Since then he has also added l a parent in
London shows. So it's giving concert series, giving tour. When
you do this, this is giving tour. We are recording
this on a Sunday, y'all, so we are recording this
prior to a King's belief that we are getting a

(30:18):
new album tonight.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
So I've been, I've been so far my all of
my predictions have come true.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
The cutting of it here uh nas Eminem and no takeover.
He totally bypassed. He didn't played the beat. I think
they played the beat later in with with Eminem. Eminem
came out.

Speaker 4 (30:36):
But so far so my theory again, as Mandy said,
you know we're recording this the day of.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
But I'm thinking, because of you to your point giving
the rollout of the concert stuff, maybe he gets he
performs a new album and we get the album on
the on the walkout of the stadium right, which leads
into more shows, which leads into an eventual announcement of
him doing the super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Oh you think he's super I mean, if.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
You're gonna do, I think, if you're gonna do, I
think all the stuff, the momentum he's created for himself.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Not only that, he even said in response to even
his decision to have Kendrick last year, who had a
bigger year than Kendrick, and essentially, look at what we're
seeing right, one of the biggest you as a rapper.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
Let me touch let me touch l A, let me
touch the UK right, Europe right by then, I mean, oh,
my other theory to this because he didn't play any
Rihanna records in the you know, the end of the
end of the two nights he was he was doing
a mixed bag, right. He hasn't played Run the Town
is coming out tonight. Oh yeah, I can see that,

(31:44):
even hanging around in Harlem going to the fish spots
with Asat Rocky.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
She's in New York, you know what I mean, say
she's there just to show in Newark?

Speaker 4 (31:53):
Yeah, I think two days ago.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
Definitely, Yeah, I can see.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
I can see Okay getting the I ain't gonna hold you.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
I will be crushed if Rihanna gets on stage.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Only because Rihanna stopped putting out music before I was
going to concerts and had this access I got now,
but I never got to see Arehanna concert, and I
think that's why I don't really have too much fomo
with this.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Not only did I just get to see jay Z.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Phenomenally perform with an orchestra, which is now what I'm
about to chase, I'm mad. I didn't realize Jeez was
doing it for summer Lea, especially Vegas, so to me,
I really want to see that. But I also went
to Blue Blueprint three tour here to Atlanta, so we're gez.
It was GZ and Trey songs and I'm just, you know,

(32:51):
I'm not It's now all my New Yorkers have been like, bitch,
what is wrong with you? I can't even I can't
even talk to you this weekend. But I'm just not
a huge fan. But I think seeing the love that
y'all have, the group chats, how we're talking about it,
it is a moment.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
I mean we don't see you know, his last tour
was four four four, but we don't see Jay on
stage a lot. We haven't seen him on stage a
lot over the past few years. So it's like it's
good to see this, and it's good to remind people
that he is who he is, and like, you know,

(33:26):
we'll talk about it and going in a little bit
more about how people's perception of him has changed to
some degree over the years in comparison to what it
was when he was in his height.

Speaker 4 (33:36):
But he is who he is.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
His art, his art, his music is his music, and
the legacy of what he stands for in hip hop
is forever as a woman, I.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Will also say, and this is y'all, I gotta mention this,
y'all gotta expound on this.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
But he was in a white shirt on stage in
his arms. It was a first time.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
I like, you, look like, look at him because all
you definitely were doing some push up. No, no, no, the
dudes just look like fifty six years old and that
six years old.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
So I'm walking around New Orleans with my boyfriend.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Who I met, Yes, yes, and all these men kept
approaching him.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
They kept coming up to him, dapping him.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Brother, I see you like, and I'm like game, I said,
damn baby, all these niggas hitting on you like.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
I don't mind it because he find ship. But that's
what hit.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
What did I act him cross? When when I met
there crossing the room? Hold on, so I'm gay, I
asked him. I said, what's your workout regimen?

Speaker 2 (34:49):
No, that wasn't gay because we were at a table.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
But these are grow men. We're walking on the sidewalk
and they're like, hey, yo, hey, we're.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
At the bar. Hold on, I'm I see niggas cross
the room and bline to come and like just dap
him up and speak to him.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
So I'm like, this is strangers.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
I'm like gay, Like.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
He explains to me because he's a man of a
certain age who has.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Kept himself up. And it was all black man too, and.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
He's like it's like when when black men do it
to black man, it's it's appreciation.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
For me keeping up with myself.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Sure, and them saying like I see you brother, like
keeping up. He still thought it was really gay, because
I guess that's the way to compliment.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
I mean, we have but I'm very close his arms.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
Oh no, that's crazy that Wow, this is a crazy question.
But like what was he wearing?

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Like what was that?

Speaker 3 (35:55):
Made?

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Nothing? Biting some white beater?

Speaker 4 (35:59):
I mean, here's what I say, right, not what was
he wearing?

Speaker 3 (36:02):
Because I'm saying I'm like, why was you breakfasted? Because
because I'm like why niggas, Like what was going on
to have like a Jamaican just like y'all.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
But like, listen tho we like jay Z looked.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Good though I would have to j I ain't unders
said jay Z look good, but look he looked like
he keep it up with I see you girl.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
But look we'll like we are.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
We have lost a lot of black men at ages
way too young. And so if if if it takes
you being a little gay to give another man flowers
to to uh amplify this idea that we should be
healthy and that people should keep themselves together and encourage
that behavior.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
People look gay, look.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
All right like you want to you want to be
gay a little bit.

Speaker 4 (36:53):
And you want to die.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Like I love that.

Speaker 4 (36:57):
Thats not even like eight.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
First of all, no, look, I complimented you on your calves.

Speaker 4 (37:10):
I'm a cave muscle. I this nigga doing his toasteps
and ship whatever.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
That That wasn't me trying to I didn't want to
touch his cab. I'm just acknowledging. Like he said, we
inspiration different ways, like oh, ship, I need to get
my ship together now.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
And then I encourage you to encourage black men to
stay healthy.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
Be a little gay, little be a little gay brother.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Don't be scared.

Speaker 4 (37:33):
Don't be scared, be a little gay by to somebody
picture on your butt? You know that other man? How
you feel about him?

Speaker 2 (37:40):
King you feel about it?

Speaker 4 (37:42):
Don't just don't touch the bottle body.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Don't touch his body. Don't you feel about it?

Speaker 4 (37:46):
When you said you're gonna.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Hear man, he's a voice of mail, you okay, and
then you just got to hear his speaking of I'm
saying no.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
That is about the transition here.

Speaker 4 (37:58):
I just get sick of hey.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
So y'all.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
Jay Z did what he did at the Roots Picnic,
and he offered us more freestyles in responses to things
like Target.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
He also uh mentioned Colin Kaepernick as well.

Speaker 4 (38:17):
And here's the thing, we should play freestyle.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Oh see first outline producer. All you had to do
was drop it in the notes, but you don't got it,
so we at play.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
It's okay, It's okay because I'm not Yeah, I'm not
a fan at it in post. So jay Z hits
the stage, does these freestyles at Yankee Stadium, and of
course people like last time dissected the raps. Now I'm
gonna kick this off to to jah to.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Go first but you know what, I'm just gonna summarize it.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
So Isaac Case founder fan Base, took to it's.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
A shameless plug. He's crazy.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
I mean, okay, Goblin investor. At this point, I needed,
don't we get my money back?

Speaker 4 (39:09):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (39:12):
He took to, ironically, a different platform.

Speaker 4 (39:15):
I thought this was time.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
He's the founder of a social media app, but he
always screenshots.

Speaker 4 (39:24):
His tweets, threads.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
His thoughts on other platforms even though he owns a platform. Isaac,
we got to talk about that, my brother, all right,
He says, Colin Kaepernick is paying for the autopsy of
Nolan Wells.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Meanwhile, jay Z is distant Colin.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Kaepernick at his show for settling with the NFL after
jay Z himself assisted in derailing Colin's social justice movement.
This is tone deaf and simultaneously on brand for him.
Can't make this this ship up.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Thoughts. Take it away.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
Because you know I'm missing He's missing a lot of
information there. That's one too. It seems like he shows
up when is any any of one of Aubrey's adversaries.
That's when we see these tweets and these these conversations.

Speaker 4 (40:20):
Jay Z addressed he didn't disc Kaepernick.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
He addressed the Target and hypocrisy of people putting it
on his shoulders. When motherfuckers go to Target every day,
then you say you was the longest line in the motherfucker.
So we boycotted Target for two months. If that, if
you go by Target today, if you people watch.

Speaker 4 (40:43):
I had argument with one of my friends from the
West Coast and she was going on and on and.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
I said, I'm gonna go there and I'm gonna film
this shit so you can see the hypocrisy of us
black and Latinos. We scream and you yell on social media,
but we show up in these places because guess what the.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
Price is ignorant? Can we can we just not group
black and Latinos in for this? They want a part
of the boycott Latino's work.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
All right, you did like, we're not. We're not. We're
not grouping them in this.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
You got, you got you always. Well, guess what, niggas lie.
Niggas are screaming shout to the mountaintops on social media
and they gonna show up at these places. Niggas ain't
stop buying Amazon products. Niggas is waiting on this ship
right now as we do this episode.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Did y'all get your thirty albums from targeting?

Speaker 4 (41:28):
I've seen No, I haven't got one yet.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
I don't have a record player. I mean it's the album.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
No, I probably won't, but I'm I want to get it. No,
I want rock Nation to give me that ship. Now
I'm entitled. Now, I'm I want that ship from that way.
You on per nocause you know.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
What's the conversation on the internet right now?

Speaker 4 (41:47):
Who rock Pain?

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Yeah? Why you know they love this?

Speaker 3 (41:53):
Is like I said before, why we're not celebrating this nigga.
He's fifty six years old doing it at a high level.
Only twenty five year od nigga can't do nothing.

Speaker 4 (42:00):
They got no cabal Anyway. The whole point of the
matter is that's Cap.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
Yes, he mentioned about the Colin Kaepernick because he took
the check, right, and he said, I'm not mad that
he took the check, but he also signed. When you
sign it, when you take the check, you signed something.
Because you can't talk about it. And to Jay's point,
I haven't heard Cap talk about the NFL since we
know he tried to get the job a few times. Right, whatever,

(42:27):
the whole point of The matter is, why are we
focusing on Colin and jay Z? What are we doing
as people were just arguing about these millionaire niggas not
showing up.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
In that situation. I can only I can only compare
to this, like when you have a friend who's in
an abusive relationship and they leave, but for whatever reason
they take their ass back. Now I don't care.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
I can't care anymore. Like if they did this much
to you, took.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Away like not only your earnings, your money, didn't stand
for what you stood for, didn't see your blackness and
all this stuff I hated when he went and tried out.

Speaker 4 (43:12):
There's so many other things.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Go coach in college, like to go to the same league, Nigga,
take youre Ouds of Canada. There's other football leagues, Like
there's other ways he could have still been a part
of his love for football without.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Going back to the league that did all the things
that did to him.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
So for me to take whatever money did signed and
now we came from him, I don't want to hear
from it anything.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
But also your people that look like us said they
was gonna boycott the NFL, right.

Speaker 4 (43:40):
And then JZ no, no.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
No, even beyond jay Z. Niggas still watch football, bro.
Oh yeah, I never stopped wanting tailgates. They never stopped
the watch. The viewing parties at the bars and lounges
hadn't stopped.

Speaker 4 (43:51):
So what were we talking about?

Speaker 1 (43:53):
So then let me ask you, John, how do you
view Isaac's take on this take the bread?

Speaker 4 (44:00):
Because you know, I'm ready.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
I feel like he got he got his.

Speaker 4 (44:04):
Points get clipped up to because this mastermind over here.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
So actually, when it comes to this particular take, to me,
this isn't necessarily an original thought of Ikes. A lot
of people feel this way. Yeah, yeah, because I know
who he is. I know who he is, I know

(44:30):
who he stayed in New York.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
Business.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
Yeah, I know who he is. There are several people
who feel this way about jay Z in general, this
particular freestyle mentioning Colin Kaepernick, and I do want to
zoom out a little bit and and move a little

(44:56):
bit away from even just Ike and address something that's
a little bit larger than Ike and how this whole
situation plays out to your point, Like there's a target
down the street from my crib, Like there's black people
there all the time.

Speaker 4 (45:09):
I haven't shopped the Target in a minute.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
But when I go past their parking livest full and
there's niggas getting out of cars going in the Target, right,
I'm happy that people boycott at Target because you're not
ever really gonna see me caping up for no corporation
in no company. I don't give a fuck if these
motherfuckers fold or their stock prices go down, whatever it is.
But also I know a lot of people didn't boycott Target.

(45:32):
And also I don't think the Target is the number
one enemy of black people. Like they they're a company
acting like a company. They were in support of BLM
when it was popular to do so. When Trump came
in office and started reverting DEI, they tucktail because they
didn't want no smoke with the administration, just like a

(45:53):
lot of schools and other companies.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
The lady who who stole the.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
Knicks trash can was probably the last person will be
at JP Morgan as a DEI.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Yeah, it probably won't be any more of that.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
But our good brother Van Lathan has a viral clip
that has gone around a lot over the past and.

Speaker 4 (46:15):
He describes society dick writing to oblivion.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
And I think in order to.

Speaker 4 (46:25):
Be a better society.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
In order to have better public dialogue, we need to
like undicify society. We need to undictify society. And I
appreciate Van for calling that out for what it is.
It was funny, but it also rings true. But I
want to offer a solution to that because Van called
it out as a thing. But I want to offer a.

Speaker 4 (46:47):
Solution to what we should do to undicify society.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
And what I think we need is the usher Terry Raymond,
the fourth method of undicifying your life. And I've said
it on this podcast for I've said to other places.
But what that means is subscribing to a method of
thought that says, if I'm gonna tell it, I gotta
tell it all. Let's not leave out any parts of anything.

(47:13):
Let's tell the whole thing, right. So in that vein,
jay Z is my favorite rapper ever. I think jay
Z is unequivocally the goat of rap music. I don't
think it's particularly close with anybody. I don't care who
your favorite OWL is, I don't care who your favorite
MC from Compton is. I think it's jay Z. Everyone

(47:35):
else gets in line. But I think we have to
be able to slay our phase. We have to be
able to slay the people that because if the I
fashion myself to be a real nigga, and to me,
the real nigga is the metric of a real nigga
is not whether or not you can take to task

(47:58):
and call out the people that you don't like or
people that you don't know. The metric of a real
nigga is can you take the task the thing that
you love the most? Can you say the real shit
about the thing you love the most? And although I
don't think this jay Z freestyle was necessarily an attack
on Colin Kaepernick, there's some things that need to be clarified.

Speaker 4 (48:19):
With how he posited this freestyle.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
Colin Kaepernick, the settlement that he got from the NFL
was in conjunction with another player named Eric Reid, who
was his teammate at the time. When Colin started kneeling,
Eric Reed started kneeling beside him. Yes, at the end
of that season, that was kind.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
Of so many people like that detail. Forget that part.

Speaker 4 (48:41):
Yeah, he was ostracized, and he was.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
But here's the thing, right, he was ostracized too, but
Eric Reid was able to get He got two contracts
after that, so he kept the job, kept kneeling and
kept his job.

Speaker 4 (48:54):
Colin Kaepernick was black balled so although.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
Because of the decline of how he was performing as well,
though he wasn't declined well.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
He was still playing well at that point, but they
they I think Colin Kaepernick was the loudest voice, obviously.

Speaker 4 (49:11):
I don't think read loud and light. That was the problem.
Loud light with a big ass afro.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
You think him being biracial was the part.

Speaker 4 (49:21):
Nobody remembers every.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
Yeah, the party, the part that he was light skinned.
I'm just looking at it. What was what was the identifier? Basically,
white people know who Calan Kaepernick is because of what
he didn't look like.

Speaker 4 (49:37):
He didn't look like Michael Michael Porter Jr.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Nobody. He was the quarterback of the forty nine ers that.

Speaker 4 (49:43):
Went all Afrook.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
Wait wait, so you think that's why. Also, people only
know old boy from Kansas City Mahones because he likes
I mean because he about racial too.

Speaker 4 (49:55):
But guess people, he's no.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
Cam Newton work.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
People know the quarter they know the people attributes, and
Colin at the time was very open and with the afro,
the symbolism right, he became the household Caberny, count of Caberney.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
I will say, I want to bring up a tweet
if you don't mind, before we get into no Well's.
I did see something interesting because how you said you
have to know how to call out your faves too.
Now I don't know if both of these people are fans,
but I do like to take on this so Teslin
figure out. She took to Instagram to actually comment on

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the freestyle by saying Jay Z said, boycotting Target without
boycotting other entities is picking and choosing.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
However, the target the target.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
Boycott organizers explained on numerous occasions why Target was a
target by saying, you can't boycott everything at want, So
is jay and others that agree with him picking and
choosing to not understand how boycott's works selective ignorance. Then
my son hopped in there as well and said, the
crazy thing is Charlemagne keeps saying it even after he interviewed. Intervened,

(51:15):
intervened them, and they explained it. The reality is people
don't understand organizing and boycotting.

Speaker 4 (51:22):
Well, I mean, and I think that's true too. I mean,
that's why I see people. We're dumb. That's it. Everybody's dumb.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
We got it.

Speaker 4 (51:31):
We lost our way, bro.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
The civil rights mean nothing to nobody no more because
we don't look at that context context. We don't look
at it. We know it exists, we don't study it.
I see, how do we implement today?

Speaker 2 (51:46):
We just know it.

Speaker 4 (51:47):
We just know it is a historical footnote. That's it.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
Yeah, I mean we're at a point now where and
this has been said numerous times, but like people don't
want to sacrifice anything like our convenience. We've placed convenience
at the top of everything, and anything that interrupts our
convenience or monetary happiness, it's just like, ah, whatever, I
don't have time for that. But I want to clarify

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a couple of things about what Jay said, because the
way he positive when he said he took a check
Colin Kaepernick and Eric Colin Kaepernick filed his lawsuit first,
Eric Reid filed a separate lawsuit. Eventually they combined their
lawsuit together because they were both being represented by the
same lawyer. Ultimately, the NFL settled the lawsuit more than

(52:33):
likely because.

Speaker 4 (52:36):
Right with an NDA. But here's the thing about even
the NDA.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
The NDA was about, and this happens with all pretty
much civil lawsuits. Where you settle, you can't talk about
how much they paid, you can't talk about the conversation
that happened in the negotiation. It doesn't stop you from
talking about There's no public record anywhere that he cannot
talk about the NFL. The reason I know that is
because two years after this settlement, or maybe maybe four

(53:02):
years after this settlement, he did this Netflix series Colin
in Black and White and then Colin in Black and White.
One of the first things that he talks about in
that doc is that the NFL combine is like a
slave auction, and you're poking and prodding black men and
you're dehumanizing them just based off of athletic.

Speaker 4 (53:21):
Attributes and all these things.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
In twenty twenty three, he did an interview with NPR
and the interviewer asked him about how he feels about
the NFL, if they've made any change, if his kneeling
did anything, and he said straight no, I don't think
the NFL has changed anything. I think that they are
still doing the same old things they always did, and
I wouldn't put them, I wouldn't give them any good

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will or any benefit of the doubt. So in regards
to the non disparaging thing, Colin Kaepernick is still saying
the things that he's saying about the NFL, and he
hasn't been sued for it, so he's still talking about
the shit that he's talking about. But the the thing
that Jay did in saying it that way made it

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seem like and then and then he says the line about, uh,
I'm the one who can't be controlled, and he was
making this scene as if, well, you took the check,
so they control you, but they can't control which isn't,
which isn't actually what happened. Now people can argue about
whether or not they feel like Jay did that on

(54:26):
purpose to be petty, or whether that was him just
saying what he's saying and him not understanding what actually
happened in the lawsuit.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
But I mean, in hip hop, in music, raps are
up for interpretation all the time, and whether it's really
a freestyle.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
Or not, it's him. Yeah, it's it's him saying no,
that's that's what Jay does not write. I know it's
hard to believe, but he doesn't. I didn't believe.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
You don't right, but maybe he practiced it in his mind.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
We're not gonna talk about that. My man's is called.
He's on the tour right now. I can't wait to
go next week.

Speaker 4 (55:16):
Are you done?

Speaker 2 (55:17):
You done?

Speaker 3 (55:18):
Freestyle is in the elastic term nowadays that just encompasses
you're saying a rhyme that has never been released on
a record, on the beat, whatever. But I think that, listen,
I think that there is plenty of fair criticism for
jay Z and the things that he's done. And I
think what we have to get to is a point
where we all me included, and everyone listening and everyone watching,

(55:43):
we have to fight the reflexive instinct that Gag reflects
when we have the dick in our throat and we
hear you listen, you have.

Speaker 4 (56:02):
You have to fight.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
You have to fight the reflexive instinct to defend our
favorite thing just because we hear something.

Speaker 4 (56:13):
And uncomfortable criticism about said thing.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
Wait, Gagy, this is your favorite thing.

Speaker 4 (56:20):
When it's dick in the throat, When you have Beyonce
is dick in your throat?

Speaker 2 (56:23):
Who jay Z's context?

Speaker 4 (56:26):
I'm trying to I'm trying to have favorite over here.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
Buddy, I have what I'm saying, when you hear something
about somebody that you love or don't like, you need
to don't just app You can step back for a.

Speaker 4 (56:41):
Second and just be like, hey, let me look at this.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
Let me look at this thing and see what's being
said and see if it has any merit.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
I'm not canceling jay Z.

Speaker 3 (56:50):
If I can go to the concert tonight on a
PJ and hop on a helicopter that uses a spot
like I would be in that motherfucker swinging around Happy Ship.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
So you're saying you also don't care about climates change?

Speaker 4 (57:00):
No, Yes, I'm he just line changed.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
Yes, I'm cold.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
We're gonna burn the Ozone Layer Ship and I'm gonna
go on rock out to whatever the fuck's going on.

Speaker 4 (57:11):
I'm not canceling jay Z. I'm not going to malign
jay Z.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
I still have a certain respect for jay Z and
that's just gonna be what it is. But if you're
gonna tell it, tell it all what it is. I
don't because we got to get to know why us
as a community keeps regardless of what jay cap. Why
are we not organizing, why are we not standing on principles?

(57:37):
Why are we lying on social media, saying with boycott
and something, but we're going in these stores anyway.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
No, I don't lie to the people. I'll be I
tell it all, don't I say too much? Actually say
way too much.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
It's honestly, But I like, I'll be trying to get
y'all to share more, and y'all do, and then y'all
be regretting a little bit too.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
But I think I share a little bit too much.
I gotta like, I gotta starting, I gotta reel it
in because I told my nigga too much.

Speaker 4 (58:07):
I was.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
I've never I shared words too much. I shared Wait no, no, no, no,
it's way too late.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
Now fast, don't go back into no no, it was Molly.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
That girl is not invited.

Speaker 4 (58:22):
Oh my god, Molly and no Grace.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
That bitch had no Molly, no Graces.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
Gotta go Okay, them hoes got to go away. And uh,
Molly and Grace sound like some white bitches. I don't
need to hang around anyways, because I would be the
only one of color around.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
So let's get into it over the fourth of July break.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
Unfortunately, a story hits our timelines.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
Uh Nolan Wells was.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
Damn did I keep calling him Noah, I'm sorry, Nolan Wells.
Nolan Wells went missing after a boat day with his
white friends, and of course they came back to land
and said amnesia.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
They didn't know what happened.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
As the investigation has continued, they have said that he
decided to stay with another group of friends.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
The group was like, nah that nigga say he was
gonna stay with me. His body was found. They are saying.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
That Ben Crump has taken on this case. We have
Tyler Perry who has agreed to pay for funeral costs,
and then we do have Colin Kaepernick who is paying
for a private autopsy.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
And this is.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
Because allegedly, and by the way, correct me if y'all
saw something else, why this is being done is because
had he drowned, which of course is going to be
the assumption of a black person around a body of water,
had he drowned, there would have been water in his lungs.
And apparently with the autopsy what was found so far

(01:00:04):
is not given that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
M hm. And so now they did hire a private
autopsy report. The parents have been doing a phenomenal job
getting the story out there.

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
They have strong people, very strong, very strong and I
would be crushed if this, if this happened to my son,
and they are standing strong in the fact that like.

Speaker 4 (01:00:31):
Know something that is not right with this situation.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Yeah, I agree, I do.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
So the conversation that I want to have and d
if you could pull up the clip, will play this.
But the conversation that has really hit the internet has
been the conversations around if we as black people should.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Be the only ones in the room mm hmm with
a group of white people.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
That both black men and women and children are not
safe ever in a room full of white men and women.
And so with this being a child, I do also
want to say some names of people that lost.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
I came across this page and I would love you
all to follow her. She's dope, and yes I'm saying
that about a white woman.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Our page is that dad, love? If you could play
this clip for us real quick.

Speaker 6 (01:01:32):
To have a quick check in with all the white parents,
white parents, how are we talking to our children who
have black friends? Because the black community is talking to
their children about if they can trust their white friends,
So how are we as white parents talking to our
white children about how they are to show up for

(01:01:53):
their black friends? I had a conversation with our white son,
and we also have to have conversations with our black
children about potentially not trusting people who look like their parents.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
That those people who look just like the.

Speaker 6 (01:02:08):
Parents who surround them and love them might not be
the safest people for them to be with.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
They might not be the people who are going to
have their backs.

Speaker 6 (01:02:19):
So, white parents with white children, are you having those
conversations about how your white children are going to show
up and bring home their black friends.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Yeah? Right.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
I've seen a lot of videos on social media from
white counterparts. I've seen one video where a gentleman was
saying that he made the reference that these rich families
that have white children who have black friends, if something happens,
they're not protecting that black child because the interest goes

(01:02:58):
beyond the child that goes to the parents.

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
Now, and in this case, we.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
Have one of the one of the friends whose mom
is a judge.

Speaker 4 (01:03:06):
You know what she's violating.

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
She's violating her oath or her protocol by even talking
about this publicly, because when she talks about it, she
may be swaying the bias with when when somebody in
her with her position is not supposed to mention anything
because her son is involved the investigation.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
I wanted to add for those of you who are
new here, I'm my mom is is white. Who may
be new here?

Speaker 4 (01:03:37):
Who are you? You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
But I'm I present as a black woman.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
My mom is white, and I went to all black
schools growing up until my freshman year of high school.
I went to Doctor Phillips, which was predominantly white, but
I went because it was a Magnet program television production.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Yeah, I was Good Morning announcements and I was learning
and editing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
That was the Magnet program and I'll never forget it.
Freshman year, I went to a party. Was the first
time I came home drunk, okay, and my mom actually
had a conversation with me because there wasn't ever fear
around me being around my people, but she knew the
access to drugs that the white kids had, like little

(01:04:30):
to fewer supervision, like the parties that were being held,
the drugs, the liquor that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
Was available, and they were wealthy white people.

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
So I remember a conversation and her fear of me
going to these white places, not only because of that,
but without people like my friends shout out to Chris Warren,
that's my homeboy who ended up bringing me home that night,
and like he walked me to the door. My mom
was grateful, and she literally has two or more of

(01:04:58):
y'all there, like or was this that?

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
And it's just a conversation I'll never forget.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
Of course, also getting really a scolding for being drunk
as fuck. But I had never had that conversation with
her before when I had hung out with all my
friends that looked like me, when I did sleepovers, when
I spent the night, but this was my first time
going like being around white people ninth grade. My mom
is white, but all of our neighborhoods everything was black,

(01:05:25):
and so seeing this take.

Speaker 4 (01:05:27):
Place people really brought me.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
It brought me back to that, but also like she
had been someone who ran away from home, and of
course we already know black people took her in. My
dad is black, like her friends when we were growing
up black, And so it's interesting because to know that
that conversation was had in what it was that two

(01:05:51):
thousand and three, four we were in twenty twenty six,
and these are conversations somehow that we're still having an
it shocks me to know that this hate is still
being taught because these three white kids keeping it a
secret or not being told. That means their parents, which
are my age, are still being taught this.

Speaker 4 (01:06:12):
Hate and nowhere.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
And I can't like a part of me being a
millennial seeing how we blended growing up as a biracial
seeing the blending of things, also knowing that that was taught,
but also knowing how much we as a community had
the Internet, have unlearned so much of this To see
that my generation thirties and forties are teaching their kids.

Speaker 4 (01:06:35):
Yes, to me, it's many.

Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
It never went anywhere if the course correction wasn't done
forty fifty years ago, and you had that that the
residual effect of the sixties. Some of them people in
the sixties didn't like that shit that went down. They
ain't like that it was equal, the civil rights being discussed.
They didn't like what Martin was talking about it. They adn't
like what Malcolm was talking about it, like what Mega

(01:07:00):
Evans was talking about. So as things quote unquote started
trending a different way, they still harbored that that anger,
that pain towards another group of people.

Speaker 4 (01:07:09):
That's why you hear a narrative.

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
Now go back to where you came from, or get
up out my area of all the things, like they
never went nowhere man, And unfortunately, look what we had today,
as you pointed out, it's twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
Now I don't I don't have children, but I'm curious then,
like even we had a conversation similar to this about
you know, when I go out and I leave, whether
my friends want me.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
To or not, and vice versa.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
What then should the conversations be, Because we're not sitting here,
as you know, parents of children that may be dealing
with this, What should our conversations be? Because there have
been adults as well who we have seen unfortunately pass away,
and these sit under these same circumstances. Right, So we

(01:07:58):
have Ashley Janet would was recent but that became a
race thing, which it did look like that wasn't the case.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
We have Laurence Smith. I want to call out these
other names. I don't know if y'all can. Uh. Tamla
that's the one.

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
Uh, she's the one who went with her, Tamala Warrisford,
Peter Spencer, Kyle Basinga, Kendrick Johnson, Kawan, Charles Gloria Bambo,
James Beard, Laurence Smith, Elijah Wetherspoon. These are all names
of black adults. I think Elijah was the only child here.

(01:08:39):
But these are all and.

Speaker 3 (01:08:41):
Kawan, Charles and and but this was the longer.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
This is not all, but these are the ones that
we know that over the last you know, decade or so,
have literally fell victim to being the only black person
in the room.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:59):
Also, before I know, I know, you're about to cook
up some some some soux chef typesh yo.

Speaker 4 (01:09:04):
A lot of those incidences too.

Speaker 3 (01:09:07):
The one thing that's prevalent is that they deemed it
a suicide. They took their own lives, so there's nothing
past that. And it seemed like that's just the default.
You know, the young blood who who was who was
chased down by the three pickup trucks. They found his

(01:09:27):
body discapitated and they said, you know, they said, they said, oh,
they told the parents, the animals. The animals got them right,
you got no head, but the animals got to you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
There's lynching, there's drugging, there's I mean everything at this point,
maybe poisoning.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
There's because so much.

Speaker 4 (01:09:45):
Prove it, but that's what I'm saying. That's what they say.
Prove it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
It's that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
But over the past several years, just to add some names,
because I've been writing about these a lot of these
cases on bottle for at least the.

Speaker 4 (01:09:56):
Last time you got fatigued.

Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
Yeah, and it gets its old because it's the same
old pattern of information, the same cycle of how they treated.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
All and over again.

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
So Trey Reid found the Mississippi hanged himself allegedly you
mentioned singa uh uh, Gavan Givaon in Albuquerque City hanged himself.

Speaker 4 (01:10:20):
Where's this other person?

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
Torrens Medley, same thing got found near a golf course
in Wisconsin.

Speaker 4 (01:10:24):
Hanged himself.

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
There's one right now and I can't get the name.
But if you guys look, there is a they're trying
to get more national news on.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
I think Mississippi. There was just another hanging recently, like
in the last two weeks.

Speaker 4 (01:10:38):
Yep, uh the Norris Richardson.

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
Several years back, there was a child who died at
school wrapped.

Speaker 4 (01:10:46):
Up in a gym matt.

Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
I remember that fell through the bleachers and back rolled
up in a gym matt and suffocated his death, and
no one knows anything, No one saw anything. So there's
all these cases that happened over and over and over
and over again, and they always through the same conclusion
almost immediately, Oh it's a suicide, and kind of just
keep it moving, so like this is not unfortunately, this

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isn't a new thing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
And do you think we're going.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
Too far though at all by just instructing us to
stay to stay away from all white people, like not
all white people like that I'm saying, is it silly
for parents to say, you need another black friend if
you're gonna hang with these white people, if you're gonna
go to this party, you need to have another black

(01:11:31):
person there is Like.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
What what is the real solution here? Like is that not?
Like what?

Speaker 4 (01:11:37):
I don't know, I don't see it. Like if you have, yes,
I would like to.

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
See more black children have at least a co pilot,
another black malienated person with them to say, all right,
let's just make sure we got each other.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
At all times.

Speaker 3 (01:11:54):
It might not be I mean, I don't know how
many I don't know how many black kids live in
their neighborhood. I don't know how many other black friends
Oland Wells had.

Speaker 4 (01:12:01):
Whatever the case, was, but.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
The fan base read me when I said that there
has to be more than thirteen percent black people in
the country. They're like, they said, I hadn't traveled enough
to the Midwest where there's not.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
There, there was no black I know people that grew
up in Iowa, so that they see black people. There
was one black person in their school of a thousand,
don't have any interactions.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
But that's what I'm saying. So, how are we realistically
going to applord? That's the thing. I know, what's the answer? Oh,
it's given ignorant.

Speaker 3 (01:12:35):
That kid Nolan spoke to his parents that same morning,
Hey son, you're going out there, all right? See you later.
There's no later, right right. I don't know how long
they've been in that town. I don't know the origin
story is his parents and how they got to that area.

Speaker 4 (01:12:54):
But perhaps this is not working.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Mhm.

Speaker 3 (01:13:01):
You We need to get back on our plus versus ferguson.
We need to get back on our separate but equal
because if they're not, if they're not responsive to who who,
how do they view people of color?

Speaker 4 (01:13:12):
Are they still with the three fifths? Bullshit? We less
than That's the thing. That's what they're.

Speaker 3 (01:13:17):
Being taught, then the behavior is not going to change. Well,
that's the other problem because if you saw, if you
listen to the the enhanced audio, he's get my phone back.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
Audio in the friends there was saying there was an argument.
Well there was, Yes, there's a video. In the video.

Speaker 4 (01:13:37):
You can't see who's arguing. That's the partment.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
You can hear.

Speaker 4 (01:13:42):
The circling around all the bolts.

Speaker 3 (01:13:44):
Here people arguing in the background, and there's some type
of back and.

Speaker 4 (01:13:47):
Forth going on.

Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
Yeah, I don't know how you police this situation, but
like you know, there's a it's crazy that this is
happening right now because over the past I would say
I've been seeing it for maybe the past two months
or so. There's a trend on social media of black
people walking up if they see a black person with
white people that walking to him, AKM to making sure
you're good.

Speaker 4 (01:14:10):
Yes, I see it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
Make sure these white people not fucking with you, like,
and it's gone two ways.

Speaker 4 (01:14:15):
I see one video where the.

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
White people laugh along because they understand what's being said.
But there's another recent video where it went left and
I dropped it in chat.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:14:27):
If you don't have to see it. So black guy
does the same thing. He's walking down the street. I
think he's in New York. He sees a guy sitting
on a curb restaurant eating with some folks that look white.

Speaker 4 (01:14:36):
Oh, that's the homie, that's that's the guy.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
He does. He'll go.

Speaker 3 (01:14:39):
He went, he went on a plane and he said, Yo,
if you're not racism, give up your your first class
to a.

Speaker 4 (01:14:46):
Right black person.

Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
Right, So he says the thing to the black guy,
sure that you're good.

Speaker 4 (01:14:51):
And the nigga was mad.

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
Nigga was vicious, pissed.

Speaker 3 (01:14:55):
I got up out of his seat and was ready
to fight this dude because Nah, this was my why
you don't know me?

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
You don't know me?

Speaker 4 (01:15:02):
And who he thought was a white man was actually
by racial.

Speaker 3 (01:15:04):
Biracial, and he showed me like my daddy, my daddy
black twenty three and meters on the sidewalk. He's trying
to prove black. And I was like, this video was crazy,
but but but what with the end game? After it though, well,
the nigga apologized and he said I'm just trying to
look out and the hug and they hugged afterwards because
he's like, I'm just trying to look out for you.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:15:23):
Yeah, I'm sure he was doing it partly in jest.
That's that's his content is kind of I think.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
I think this does become difficult when we do acknowledge
that there are allies.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
We do acknowledge that we all have. I met your
white friend and we embraced after I was like, damn,
you know this white but even.

Speaker 4 (01:15:44):
What there's always a white but abilities right in Mississippi.

Speaker 3 (01:15:55):
Well, that's the part of the thing of the story
is that the reason there's no good faith is because a.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
Michigan still I don't know where in Michigan, but Detroit.

Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
You got a couple like this is you're not in
you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
But it's like, but in Mississippi, you're not going to
get black people in large to have good faith that oh,
just in Mississippi the big time. So it's like we're
looking at the situation with skepticism from the beginning. Then
you get into the details of it. The judge is
one of the kids mom, and she deactivated all her

(01:16:32):
social media along with the.

Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
So let me ask both y'all give me one way
that white people could be a part of helping or you.
You sound like you don't think so.

Speaker 4 (01:16:44):
I think it can be.

Speaker 3 (01:16:45):
We gotta do you know how to go, you know
how we do the the Parnic Change Ship, the program.
They gotta come not abroad but within and to.

Speaker 4 (01:16:55):
Spend some time I learn, relearn. I agree with that
because we don't be in the ass like that.

Speaker 7 (01:17:01):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:17:03):
You don't ever hear white people say that they lost
a son or daughter in a black community. In fact,
they'll come to the black community and were more liable
to go take it to the pizza spot up to the.

Speaker 4 (01:17:15):
Whole experience, right like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, right.

Speaker 3 (01:17:18):
I find one, find one. I bet you can't. You
cannot find a scenario where.

Speaker 4 (01:17:24):
That that that that has happened.

Speaker 3 (01:17:26):
Well, that's the thing we right now on the surface,
d you think of something right now? In case when
you just d ten names of recent ship, right and
that's you add that to the I guess hundreds of
thousands correct, all right?

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
So, but yeah, I don't think a white man that
went into a black neighborhood.

Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
And child the fact that we got son sundown town
still in twenty twenty six, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:17:53):
That's the problem.

Speaker 3 (01:17:54):
Well, the thing is too like when I've said this
about police brutality as well, like they'll be like, well,
you know, police kill white people too, Well, hey, check
it out. If y'all don't care that y'all people get killed,
that's y'all problem. When our people die, we give a fuck,
and we're gonna see about it, and we're gonna interrogate it.
We're gonna investigate, and you should stay on it, and
we're not gonna just let it go to the wayside

(01:18:15):
when we hear something crazy about our people. If y'all
don't have the same love and respect and care for
your people, that's what y'all think.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
There has nothing to do with us.

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
It's funny that you say that because this is not
a sports podcast, But but we do have white people
right now rallying and caring about the safety of Kaitlyn.

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
Clark, caring, caring. I don't I don't get there because
you said that, what.

Speaker 3 (01:18:45):
They have to source reference that to justify their concern.

Speaker 1 (01:18:51):
I know, j'all was like, I got thoughts now for
y'all that do not know.

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
The Republican Party has decided to.

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
Sent a nice little letter. Republican lawmakers sent a letter
to the w n B A questioning the officiating and
defending of Caitlin Clark.

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
It argues that Clark.

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
Has been subjected to repeated heart fouls an excessive physical
play since entering the league, and mind you, yes they do.

Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
They say that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
This is racist because she is a white superstar in
this league and the.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
Black players are hard on her.

Speaker 1 (01:19:38):
Now, Clark has been involved in several highly publicized physical incidents,
including being hit in the throat, which the league did
put as a flagrant. Stephanie White has publicly criticized the
w NBA officiating, saying Clark and other players do deserve
better protection. There have been rowing calls, and what's crazy

(01:20:01):
about this is I also feel like this is one
of those things that it's always been happening, but now
that the w n b.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
A just has a larger spotlight on it, we're just
seeing more of it. Babe.

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
Just went to the w NBA game this weekend. Got
to see, uh, the Atlanta Dream. Angel Reese was out,
she was on a boot. But the Atlanta Dream played Portland,
which is one of the new teams that just got added,
and maybe it was it was also just letting you know,

(01:20:33):
even though it was at Parkway the vibes. That arena
was more live than.

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
They get up in there, like like I felt like
I was almost at high school, high school college. You're
the guy that has front row seats and he was orchestrating, right,
you suck, you suck. I'm like, oh, this is giving.
It was just it was it was fun. It was
a vibe.

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
But them girls was it wasn't no, uh, it was
a light up on that corner.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
The falls. They was flopping like the World Cup. It
was throwing themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
Nah, I ain't gonna hold your soccer players, but this
flopping's crazy. But this has been a conversation now because
now not only are we dealing with racism again, we
are dealing with politics involving themselves into sports.

Speaker 4 (01:21:25):
In then who would have done.

Speaker 2 (01:21:27):
Who would have thought this shit?

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
They didn't even care about women, y'all are taking away
women's rights. Yet now you care about this white woman
in the motherfucking NBA and the hard fouls she is getting.

Speaker 2 (01:21:39):
Are you fucking kidding me? Republicans? There are bigger fish
to fucking fry.

Speaker 3 (01:21:44):
And what's crazy about it is is that this story
has it meets at this crazy intersection of like misogyny, putriarchy, racism,
white nighting, entitled entitlement, like it has all of these
elements that play right, so first and foremost like and
my shout out to my brother David Dennis. He made

(01:22:05):
this point on First Take last week, and it's like,
this is what athletes go through. When you are a
big dog athlete. People are going to try you. Your
your peers when you play the game, are gonna try you.
When Lebron James was fresh in the league, niggas tried him.
Right now Victor women women, Yama is getting tried. They're
gonna be physical with him. That's the counter know. But

(01:22:29):
what I'm saying is that when you're that one, when
you looked at as that one, people are gonna take it.
They're gonna give you their best shot. They're gonna take
it to you to see if you really like that.
And so this is just what happens. Caitlyn Clark is
just that. But then the question I asked myself at
first was who's the best white American NBA player. Maybe
you say it's Austin Reeves, Maybe you say it's Cooper Flag.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
Maybe no, no, no, I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:23:01):
He used to be Caro loves is fifty nine years.

Speaker 8 (01:23:04):
Don't do that right now, super Flag, Like you're like,
white man, we ran into the KS like two years
younger than yeah, and KKR was never as good as

(01:23:24):
New White Boys, right, but these white boys have probably
heard wa, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:23:29):
Mad that we really got know white Americans, that's who
like that.

Speaker 3 (01:23:33):
Said, those three are the bigger, you know if you
want to. I mean, he's not one of the best.
But like people respect Prichard, people respect Larry Bird, Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:23:43):
Larry Yeah, yeah right, people respect players like that.

Speaker 3 (01:23:47):
But in my mind, I'm like, Congress would never the
misogyny comes in. Is that Congress, these purple would These
white boys have probably heard all kinds of ship on
the NBA course, gotten elbowed and gotten thumped and and
filed and all kinds of shit.

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
Congress is not going to.

Speaker 3 (01:24:02):
Write a letter to the NBA saying you have to
protect these white athletes.

Speaker 4 (01:24:09):
And they're not coming out and saying.

Speaker 3 (01:24:11):
It, but they're talking about, well, they're creating a hostile
work environment if there's any discrimination or retribution going on.

Speaker 4 (01:24:20):
Discrimination, So what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (01:24:22):
Discrimination, I think Paul Pierce and KG came out and
said that when they played it probably wasn't the Garden
back then, but in Boston they would get called the
N word.

Speaker 4 (01:24:31):
Like talks about it. He talks about the abuse.

Speaker 3 (01:24:35):
Russells, I mean, Russell Westbrook was gonna fucking fan up.
And you saw a few seasons back because they were
talking crazy to him and he's not a nigga who's
gonna stand around and let you talk that.

Speaker 4 (01:24:44):
As soon as he brought back anybody. Yeah, so where
we all.

Speaker 3 (01:24:51):
When niggas were experiencing discrimination, all this shit, y'allways nowhere
to be found because y'all don't give a fuck. But
now that this white girl in a league all of
black women. So what you're saying is that these black
women who make up the majority of the w NBA
are being racist and making a hostile work environment that
might violate the civil rights of Caitland civil rights and

(01:25:14):
we're playing basketball. So the picture that just came out,
who the new civil rights leadership in that in that organization?

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:25:21):
All white people? He replaced all the niggas. It's like two,
it was like two or three sprinkle of black women
in there. Everybody else's oh wow, yt, So what has.

Speaker 2 (01:25:31):
The NBA's response been, though, John.

Speaker 3 (01:25:32):
So, the w NBA has basically just said, you know,
we're going to and even the what is her team?
What is Kaitlin Clark's team, Indiana whatever, I forget what
the team is called, but they've basically said, like, hey,
we're going to try to protect our players. The team
is we're focused on winning, like the players on the
team are saying they're focused on winning, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
And I want to add as well, a quote from
The Times magazine with this happened. Clark is cognizant of
the racial underpinnings her being a star, and I want
to quote her just because this isn't us discussing Caitlyn

(01:26:13):
Clark as much as it's.

Speaker 2 (01:26:14):
Like the Republican Party now just large reacting to what
she's experiencing.

Speaker 1 (01:26:20):
She says, I want to say I've earned every single thing,
but as a white person, there is privilege. A lot
of those players in the league that have been really
good have been black players.

Speaker 2 (01:26:30):
This league has been kind of built on them.

Speaker 1 (01:26:33):
The more we can appreciate that, highlight that talk about
that and then continue to have brands and companies invest
in those players that have made this league incredible.

Speaker 2 (01:26:41):
I think it's very important.

Speaker 1 (01:26:43):
I have to continue to try to change that. The
more we can elevate black women, it's going to be
a beautiful thing.

Speaker 4 (01:26:49):
So wow.

Speaker 2 (01:26:50):
And she said that in the Times magazine athlete of the.

Speaker 4 (01:26:54):
Year might have a black boyfriend or girlfriend.

Speaker 2 (01:26:57):
Well, you know, I would guess girl against girlfriends. I
ain't gonna hold.

Speaker 1 (01:27:01):
You need to give the benefit of you know what's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
We was at the game UH this Saturday, and Chris.

Speaker 1 (01:27:13):
Literally looks at me and I was like, do you
think that's just a stereotyper? You really think all these
bitches is gay? And I said, well, I'll let you
know when I go to w n B al I said,
they let you I'll let you know how the weekend goes, babe,
because I'm going to w B All Star in Chicago
this year and.

Speaker 4 (01:27:30):
I'll fill the room out there, going to be on you.

Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
We'll see I'm bisexually. The real gays don't like, they
don't and they know it, and not a sudden they know.
They know one time, like a pulse.

Speaker 4 (01:27:44):
They explain, they just you know, one hit a quarter
type of thing. That's it. And they just move on
and do whatever they do.

Speaker 2 (01:27:53):
Well, we do see what okay La Clark does have
a boyfriend.

Speaker 1 (01:27:57):
Okay, Uh, Connor McCaffrey. The couple met as student athletes
at u o I University of Iowa and have been
dating since April twenty twenty three. Now we did see,
all right, the one that just wrote the book and
came out.

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
Uh, she's on. Uh I can't remember her name, but okay,
who the one that was married.

Speaker 3 (01:28:24):
To William Yeah, yeah, she's been delivered.

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
Yeah, yeah, she has been delivered. She was with Sheldon
man Long. Hell, that little nigga down he went to
do big cat nigga was supposed to be good, and
what you know, I know my du players, Big hat
nigga was supposed to be good. Channah Parker came.

Speaker 1 (01:28:43):
In, made that nigga house husband and he still did
it wrong. She went and found love.

Speaker 2 (01:28:47):
And the coach crazy Sokayler Clark. There's still hope for
her to target, not hope for her to turn.

Speaker 1 (01:28:53):
Okay, Cayley Clark is not bisexual, babe. You could go
from heterosexual too gay in a quickness.

Speaker 2 (01:29:02):
You have to be buying to put it.

Speaker 4 (01:29:03):
Let me ask you, what did you see her attributes
that you assume that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:07):
Okay, I'm gonna lie, I'm stereotyping. It's the statue. It's
the statue. This is one I don't ever climb trees.
I don't like her tunnel fits.

Speaker 3 (01:29:14):
Like you see a lot of woman come in tunnel
fits and may be some of them you can tell
the ones that is like girly and dressed up.

Speaker 4 (01:29:20):
But leaning into the ignorance of NBA players.

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
No, it's the ignorance of the summertime. First off, w
NBA takes place during the summer. And I literally had
this conversation with Yomi with with my man, and I.

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
Was like, here's my issue with dressing, because a bitch
likes to be flying. You are in between dressing like
a full stud or a hoe. It's hard to do that.
You are a stud or a ho. You're gonna wear
the bagga jeans and maybe have to put it on
the take, but you look like a yes or actually,
what's what? What's the world we called it? It's a stem? Oh,

(01:29:54):
a feminine stud. Why are you either.

Speaker 4 (01:29:58):
What is too much? It's called stem is real?

Speaker 2 (01:30:01):
Is real? That's a regular use.

Speaker 3 (01:30:07):
A feminine is it an acronym or is it just
a term that just.

Speaker 2 (01:30:11):
Referred to the first I'll be dressed like a stem.

Speaker 4 (01:30:14):
It's gonna come. It's gonna be like it's it's where.

Speaker 2 (01:30:17):
You dress masculine or androgenist. But maybe you'll throw on
a kitten hill or you'll put on makeup like you're
not fully.

Speaker 4 (01:30:25):
Got you masculinely. But here's the thing, though, there we
go is a stem.

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
You can read it a lot. Why are you the podcast?

Speaker 4 (01:30:39):
Is a stem?

Speaker 2 (01:30:40):
Read what you just read.

Speaker 4 (01:30:43):
In the l g B t q I A plus community.

Speaker 3 (01:30:46):
A STEM or stem girl is a black or Latin
X sapphic which is women loving women person whose gender
expression falls somewhere between a.

Speaker 4 (01:30:55):
Stud and FM. The term is portment out.

Speaker 2 (01:31:00):
That's why you.

Speaker 3 (01:31:04):
Word of today it's peau of those two words, so they.

Speaker 1 (01:31:09):
Have to put I always say that I hate when
definitions put other words that you got to.

Speaker 2 (01:31:15):
Look up the definition, Like, I hate that. You know,
what's the definition of commind porto bello anytime? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:31:28):
A portmanteau is like I'm trying to think of combination,
a combination of two words that we the sounds combined.

Speaker 4 (01:31:34):
Yeah, I'm trying to think of a good example. But
commoter and hotel, Yes, that's the portant.

Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
So so stem is just the gay version of fish.

Speaker 4 (01:31:48):
Yeah, got you.

Speaker 3 (01:31:49):
It's racist too, I get it because how they put
stem on black and LATINX creative.

Speaker 4 (01:31:54):
But a white white girl can, well, a white person
can't be a stud. You was crazy white people can't?

Speaker 2 (01:32:02):
White people are But this is very conversation.

Speaker 4 (01:32:06):
No, no, no, I think there's some real ship.

Speaker 3 (01:32:08):
I've heard this community that white people cannot be studded black.

Speaker 4 (01:32:15):
White women are.

Speaker 2 (01:32:16):
But yes, you're like, I've never I've never called a
black lesbian woman.

Speaker 1 (01:32:22):
But yeah, so see that's what I love. Yeah, butch
is a race. It actually says butcher's race neutral, but we.

Speaker 2 (01:32:29):
Don't put it.

Speaker 4 (01:32:30):
The spokesperson for.

Speaker 2 (01:32:34):
That's definitely wow. Google, can white people be butch? They
literally put.

Speaker 4 (01:32:41):
Up this is crazy, Like.

Speaker 3 (01:32:45):
Google, Google kind of that that picture looked like Carlo Esposito.

Speaker 2 (01:32:49):
It does. It's like Google kind of phobic in whatever
way they could be phobic in this thing.

Speaker 4 (01:32:55):
So why do we have all of these names describing
the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:32:58):
Can I also say I love you? Kaitlyn got us
to this conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:33:01):
This is not.

Speaker 4 (01:33:02):
I don't want to go back to something this second.

Speaker 2 (01:33:05):
A bulldagger, I think that's gotta be white people.

Speaker 3 (01:33:10):
No, I thought, I thought, I don't know what the
specific I thought that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:19):
Playing term for a masculine or but lesson.

Speaker 4 (01:33:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:33:22):
Historically used as a pe jordans, it has been embraced
by some within queer and black communities as a term
of pride. Oh so it's I'm a bulldagger. It's like
happiness with lesbian.

Speaker 2 (01:33:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:33:38):
Actually, how I'm going to start to clip agg but no,
but you and then we're gonna get into us talking
about your your friends, the Israelites.

Speaker 4 (01:33:47):
My friends is crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:33:49):
No, but this is actually a good point about how
people view these women, right because even with all of
the stereotypes and all this stuff about gender, because these
same Republicans would probably make gender jokes about how these
women are masculine.

Speaker 1 (01:34:09):
Right, Republicans would have came to her rescue if she
openly had a girlfriend.

Speaker 4 (01:34:15):
Probably not, probably, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:34:17):
But here's where like the racism and the patriarchy come
in to it, and the white nighting. So like, for
people who don't know about white nighting, white nighting is
generally also a pejorative that you know, you see people
say like, oh, bro, she's not gonna let you hit.

Speaker 4 (01:34:33):
Bro, she's not gonna let you hit.

Speaker 3 (01:34:34):
It's usually in response to a man who is defending
a woman from.

Speaker 4 (01:34:40):
An attack, an unfair attack of some kind.

Speaker 3 (01:34:43):
You're inserting yourself in this situation, not being talked to,
to defend a woman, and people look at that as like, Oh,
you're just trying hard to be act like you're a representative,
act like you care about feminism, or act like you
care about women. And in this particular case, that's kind
of what's happening because these these eleven Republican men are

(01:35:07):
assuming that these women need their help, that Kaitlyn Clark
needs their help.

Speaker 4 (01:35:13):
Kaitlyn Clark don't need their help. Kaitlyn Clark is.

Speaker 3 (01:35:16):
A basketball player. She's been a basketball player for a
long time. She not no punk bitch. She knows what's
going on on the course. She knows what the game is.
Professional basketball players know what the game is. They don't
need your help. This is like when you see a
man trying to man explain some shit and they'd be like, oh, sweetheart,
let me talk. You don't call me sweetheart. I like

(01:35:37):
your sweetheart. I don't need you to come in and
cape up for me. Kaitlyn Clark doesn't need y'all. So
y'all are jumping in this really just to virtue signal
to your base that yeah, there is white plight, Yeah
there is this. They trying to push this narrative for
the last few years about white people are being discriminated against.

Speaker 2 (01:35:57):
Anti DEI is about white people.

Speaker 3 (01:35:59):
This is part of pushing that narrative for going uh uh,
pushing forth this idea that white people are being discriminated
against and that we have to stand up to it.
Nobody's discriminated against Kaitlyn Clark. Some people just don't like her,
and that's what it's gonna be. Some people don't like
her mouth, some people don't like her attitude. A lot
of people like her game. She has plenty of fans.

(01:36:20):
There's all kinds of people who are in the go
to the games, who are wearing Kaitlyn Clark jerseys. They're
trying to crown her as the face of the league
and the reason your league is even one of the
one of the senators or congress people even said verbatim,
she's the reason why your league is even still around.

Speaker 2 (01:36:35):
Your league would be defact it wasn't for her.

Speaker 4 (01:36:38):
There's been an Asia Wilson, Candice Parker, h.

Speaker 3 (01:36:45):
Tazi, Cheryl Swoop, Witherspoon and Witherspoon.

Speaker 4 (01:36:53):
Swoops, Don Staley. There's black one in the book.

Speaker 3 (01:36:59):
There has been black women who have been propping up
this league and building to w NBA ratings have gone
up every season.

Speaker 4 (01:37:06):
Kaitlyn Clark just got there so like this.

Speaker 2 (01:37:12):
Before to elevate.

Speaker 4 (01:37:15):
So this league has been growing.

Speaker 3 (01:37:17):
Caitlyn Clark is a great player, and of course he's
brought a whole different level of eyes to it. We
all understand that for various reasons. But like there's now
there's hate watching of the w n b A. There's
people who are watching just for Kaitlyn Clark, and there's
people who are watching just to root against Angel Reese.

Speaker 4 (01:37:32):
And they haven't even gone to any game, and they
haven't gone to any game.

Speaker 3 (01:37:35):
They're not supporting any way other than this, shout out
to the w n b A, shout fuck these Republicans.

Speaker 1 (01:37:46):
All right, last topic, celebrities say the darnis things.

Speaker 2 (01:37:50):
We have a clip here barely understand my man, my native.

Speaker 1 (01:37:58):
Y'all Kodak took to I don't know what if this
is a string, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:38:03):
He shouldn't just be I.

Speaker 4 (01:38:04):
Don't even know Kodak did this kind of ship.

Speaker 2 (01:38:06):
We WiFi. I don't know. I didn't know he knew
how to connect.

Speaker 4 (01:38:11):
He's playing with everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:38:13):
I don't know, but this is what he had to say,
Hendrick Bro.

Speaker 7 (01:38:19):
You know what our group, our group called KKKK bro Collac.
We woke like we pro black. I we woke bro,
we woke and were smart, and we Jews were black,
Jews were injured life.

Speaker 4 (01:38:38):
You feel me, you feel me?

Speaker 2 (01:38:40):
My father named Davis.

Speaker 7 (01:38:41):
I'm gonna start dating you feel me, you get it
like my daddy his ship twelve twenty two, his birthday
twelve twenty two, my birthday six year eleven.

Speaker 4 (01:38:49):
What that point? What that means?

Speaker 2 (01:38:52):
I mean, I'm gonna start up dating me, Hendrid Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:38:57):
He spirit that group A half.

Speaker 1 (01:39:00):
In this group, by the way, it's supposed to be Kodak, Black,
Kanye West, Kendrick Lamar.

Speaker 4 (01:39:10):
That's why I know that's well.

Speaker 2 (01:39:13):
He said like that.

Speaker 1 (01:39:15):
He said, we're gonna be because we pro black and
we woke.

Speaker 3 (01:39:22):
I just I just wanted to make a distinction how
your mind works, how my mind I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:39:28):
And this is crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:39:29):
Here we go.

Speaker 4 (01:39:29):
He's not talking about this support.

Speaker 3 (01:39:32):
I don't think he's saying yeah, but there's a difference
between what he's saying and what you experienced.

Speaker 4 (01:39:37):
I just want you to be clear that first off,
that was that experience. I wish you never had that experience.

Speaker 3 (01:39:42):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:39:42):
I had it on the belt line too.

Speaker 4 (01:39:44):
It's like the first this is on the belt Tell
me this is not gonna be the last.

Speaker 2 (01:39:49):
I'm in Atlanta now.

Speaker 4 (01:39:51):
Don't seen him on.

Speaker 2 (01:39:54):
The beat They be on the right in front of
the Kroger.

Speaker 1 (01:39:58):
Baby, I'll be like, I mean, like Crystal, don't look,
don't look.

Speaker 2 (01:40:01):
Don't look.

Speaker 4 (01:40:02):
I've seen videos how they organized.

Speaker 2 (01:40:05):
About Like you know where else a b Why you
don't know Harlem Brooklyn.

Speaker 4 (01:40:13):
I haven't seen them in bro all over the city.

Speaker 2 (01:40:15):
Yeah. The way that we're talking about them, like they
that he's a group of people you don't want to
run into. I mean, like the KKK, I don't want
to run into them.

Speaker 3 (01:40:23):
Next, but is your life? Ain't killing nobody hanging?

Speaker 2 (01:40:27):
They're killing my brain cells? Actually, you know, as I
heard them.

Speaker 1 (01:40:30):
Speak, I was like, oh, my god, they put some
goddamn one.

Speaker 4 (01:40:38):
Why she's still stands on the same block.

Speaker 2 (01:40:42):
You got to engage, you got to I got engaged.

Speaker 1 (01:40:45):
I selected Hey, if there is any israel light out there,
they want to come sit on the couch. I will
come in here, open to understanding your logic. Now you
can't convince me that you're right, but I'm open to

(01:41:06):
sharing my platform to share, to share what selective ignorance.

Speaker 3 (01:41:12):
I can't wait until they start asking how to read scriptures.

Speaker 4 (01:41:16):
Oh yeah, that's get different.

Speaker 1 (01:41:22):
Nonetheless, I wanted to talk about real quick, the misinformation
that I feel like is plaguing us. So I hopped
in the comments of this, and there's a woman by
the name of Magic Monet who said people don't know
the original ku Klux was black men, and the original
Jews were black as well. Ku Klux is literally African language. Remember,

(01:41:46):
everything is stolen from black people, then demonized, then used
against us.

Speaker 2 (01:41:53):
Ready all along. So I go in. I see a
couple of comments like this.

Speaker 1 (01:41:58):
I look at the comments. They're like, one, sister, you're right,
spread the knowledge, keep it going, y'all ku Klux Actually
hold on, I got it somewhere else kup and Klux
is not from the African language, and klan also is
not the.

Speaker 2 (01:42:16):
Ku Klux Klan.

Speaker 1 (01:42:18):
KKK was founded by white former Confederate soldiers in eighteen
sixty five and Pulaski, Tennessee, shortly after the American Civil War.

Speaker 2 (01:42:27):
There's names of the fucking six founders. And why do
some people claim kk was originally black?

Speaker 4 (01:42:33):
Why?

Speaker 2 (01:42:35):
Literally from misidentified or altered historical photos, confusion with unrelated
black organizations formed during reconstruction, and deliberate misinformation.

Speaker 1 (01:42:47):
Now, Joe, I know you're reading a book. I don't
know if it was a went by a different name.
I'm mad you didn't bring it in, but you said
you just read something about this my while we're talking
about ways in which we need to figure out how
to get out of this state that we're in where
we can't even be in a room by ourselves with
these white people in Xyzello menal p.

Speaker 2 (01:43:08):
One of the biggest things that we need to do first.
And like you said, y'all know Rosa Park name, y'all
know Martin Luther King name, y'all know Malcolm X's name,
y'all know that the civil rights movement happened it took place,
But what do you really know about what they did
and the organizing and the boycotting and what it took
to get certain laws changed and segregation ending in all

(01:43:33):
these things. And as I'm reading these comments, I'm like, oh,
with all the knowledge in our fingertips, y'all are even
just refusing to look things up.

Speaker 4 (01:43:42):
You're told stuff them in a favorable position.

Speaker 1 (01:43:46):
And I'm just like, okay, But also, yes, black people
work the first kings and queens, and I get that,
but this idea that you just want to take something
to wroun with it, And I mean, mind you. We
come in here too, if we're told something was wrong,
what do we do? We leave, We keep looking it up,
and we come back and be like, damn, we further
research there. But what I'm liking now is I feel

(01:44:10):
forced now y'all. Remember MLA format, y'all remember having to
cite your sources?

Speaker 2 (01:44:18):
Even coming in here, I'm having to deep dive, Hey,
summarize this. What are other resources for this? Bring me here?
Why are people saying this?

Speaker 1 (01:44:28):
And AI needs to be used in a way to
also just provide.

Speaker 2 (01:44:33):
You more resources And then you gotta go and read.

Speaker 1 (01:44:35):
Then you gotta go and click, and I'm just reading
so much misinformation and it bothered me in this in
this clip, not that yes, say no to drugs, absolutely,
but also like we have encyclopedias at our fingertips.

Speaker 4 (01:44:54):
As much information as you care to, but you have
to read.

Speaker 2 (01:44:58):
You have to read, You have to dissect, comprehension, skills matter.

Speaker 1 (01:45:02):
You can't be cross reference, like we're doing that now
with what they're saying is happening with the Carmelo Anthony case.

Speaker 2 (01:45:09):
Is it being retried?

Speaker 1 (01:45:10):
What steps are we now because unfortunately, when so many
people convolute and add their opinions, things become.

Speaker 2 (01:45:17):
A little jumble.

Speaker 4 (01:45:18):
Yeah, yeah, But.

Speaker 2 (01:45:21):
What is the book you're reading right now, by the.

Speaker 3 (01:45:23):
Way, Well, it's actually they talk about this in the
same book that I talked about last week, This non
Violent Stuff and Gets You Killed by Charles E.

Speaker 4 (01:45:29):
Cobb. It just basically talks about.

Speaker 3 (01:45:33):
World War one, World War two and kind of the reconstruction,
the end of slavery, and that transition period when you know,
the Civil War was over and America is now trying
to reconcile what to do with the race issue, and
then you know in the South they're trying to hold
on to it, and in the North they're trying to
eradicate it, and all the varying things that happened during

(01:45:56):
that time period with where politics and race stood, right,
So there was politicians at the time who eventually understood, like, Okay,
this slavery thing is not tenable anymore. Black people are
getting rights, black people are becoming more aware, so we
need to at least throw them a bone and trying

(01:46:19):
to like talk to them and communicate with them and
give them some of the things that they want. And
obviously the Southern states weren't trying to hear that shit,
and Southern politicians who were I guess perceived to be
sympathetic to.

Speaker 4 (01:46:36):
Treed people.

Speaker 3 (01:46:37):
Black people in general were looked at as traders, you know,
to some degree, And there was splintering of white Democrats
at the time who were like, no, we're not going
for any sympathy or any empathy for black people, and
we're going to keep this shit.

Speaker 4 (01:46:53):
We're gonna hold the line on white supremacy.

Speaker 2 (01:46:56):
And so.

Speaker 3 (01:46:58):
That's where you get groups like the Dixiecrats, who were
basically Southern whites.

Speaker 4 (01:47:02):
Who were committed to holding.

Speaker 3 (01:47:04):
That racist line regardless of what other people at the
time were trying to do, whether they were trying to
give black people rights or being sympathetic to black voting
suffrage and all those type of things.

Speaker 2 (01:47:16):
But the Ku Klux.

Speaker 3 (01:47:17):
Klan was not invented or was not founded by black people.
The whole purpose of the Ku Klux Klan was to
continue to make sure that black people were subjugated, kept
in their place, and not get any type of up
of the ideas of advancing in this society. And so like,
I don't know what was the person's point about or

(01:47:40):
what were they trying to say. Who are the people
they were trying to say were black? That inventive They
were trying to.

Speaker 1 (01:47:45):
Pretty much say, y'all aren't listening to what Kodak is
trying to say? He right, he is jew. And then
that's the other thing. There's a difference between jew and Jewish.

Speaker 2 (01:47:54):
There is oh I gotta sneeze.

Speaker 4 (01:47:57):
Ie, I hate that shit.

Speaker 2 (01:48:03):
There's a difference in the context.

Speaker 1 (01:48:05):
However, they are also the same thing depending on how
you're saying it.

Speaker 2 (01:48:12):
You have a you have a is.

Speaker 4 (01:48:14):
Not is from the jb P. But uh, it's like
it's not the no is.

Speaker 2 (01:48:22):
That no here we go.

Speaker 1 (01:48:26):
Jew is a nown that refers to a person who
belongs to the Jewish people. Jewish is an adjective used
to describe someone or something connected to the Jewish people, religion,
or culture. While both words refer to the same group
of people, a distinction is primarily.

Speaker 3 (01:48:41):
Grammatical, man that it references the tablet magazine, which is
a Jewish platform you're gonna talk to, you talk to
that's biased. We don't call ourselves Blackish other than the
TV show Whitish.

Speaker 4 (01:49:01):
Absolutely, I mean, if you if you are, you are monogamous,
I'm somewhat someone. It's definitely sound like a book title monogamo.

Speaker 3 (01:49:16):
And they said I'm somewhat is meaning like someone I'm
similar to, not.

Speaker 2 (01:49:21):
Just claim Israelite roots.

Speaker 4 (01:49:23):
No, I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:49:24):
Well, No, I don't know, I don't I understand that
they're saying the twelve tribes of Israel, right, are supposed
to be the represent the black people in America.

Speaker 2 (01:49:36):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:49:36):
So that's when when they talk about the Israelites, and
with Kodak Black and you know, Kanye's even referenced a
lot of people in rap have referenced that, but not
necessarily not the experience you had not that, but they're
speaking from a heritage, a cultural perspective, and religious perspective,
but not.

Speaker 2 (01:49:57):
Well, yeah, a lot of it.

Speaker 3 (01:49:58):
That she's gonna be every bigg I mean that.

Speaker 2 (01:50:03):
I would have rather just a corner of Greek letters.

Speaker 3 (01:50:07):
Like give me the dog, and he walked talking about
I would have would I would have what's up, y'all?

Speaker 2 (01:50:16):
But damn niggas. I now don't even like the Lakers.

Speaker 1 (01:50:20):
Well, the Lakers are white. They white now anyway white
the Lakers. I don't even like the Lakers no more
brou because I don't sew them.

Speaker 2 (01:50:26):
God damn shut what the fuck that ship was? I mean,
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:50:32):
I don't know a whole lot about like the Hebrew
Israelites and that type of thing.

Speaker 4 (01:50:38):
I know, I know the general idea, correct.

Speaker 3 (01:50:40):
Because like we'll get this out to damn Kendrick Lamar,
damn was pretty.

Speaker 2 (01:50:45):
Much goddamn without you bring up the.

Speaker 3 (01:50:49):
Greatest rapper of modern time is you said jay Z
was that he's the greatest rapper ever and modern think
right now and I would argue him abouts, but that's
nothing conversation.

Speaker 4 (01:51:00):
We can we can go there another time, guys.

Speaker 3 (01:51:02):
But but the album Damn is pretty much about this
whole thing, Like that's the underlying thing about Damn. He
has these snippets where he talks to his cousin, his
cousin Carl, who turned black. Hebrew is your Life, And
like some of those teachings and those things, it's essentially
about who are the real Jews and who are those
people that get to You know, we talked the other

(01:51:23):
week about black people and like our heritage and if
we're being land ownership, but we're being finagled out of
our things because we haven't had this history. And what
they to my understanding, what black black Hebrew Israelites are
on is Judah, tribal Judah and all of that. We
are that we are God's chosen people. The chosen people

(01:51:46):
of God are the is the black man, the original man,
and not these.

Speaker 4 (01:51:50):
Other people who are telling this story. That's that's what
they're on. Again, I haven't studied that.

Speaker 3 (01:51:56):
I don't know anything about that, but I'm just telling
you I know that that's their story and the sticking
to it.

Speaker 2 (01:52:00):
Would y'all want to go to a class? Y'all think
there's a class on this? Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:52:04):
Yeah, Oh for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:52:06):
I don't want to.

Speaker 1 (01:52:07):
I don't want to go on with Lakers jerseys, part
of a class Lakers the colors with Lakers jerseys, and
we like sit and listen to these teachings and as
we sit there, we just write down.

Speaker 2 (01:52:21):
All the things we dis.

Speaker 3 (01:52:24):
So my homegirls, I remember what she said now because
she showed the video she showed me with the Latin
is your lights, which is the same lights.

Speaker 4 (01:52:32):
She called them jose taps almost through my phone. And
I didn't even know that Latin is like movement.

Speaker 3 (01:52:44):
So it's all together. It's just that they just represent
the Latin because remember the twelve tribes were specific.

Speaker 2 (01:52:52):
But not only that, you know, Latin X people also
believe that they come also from Africa as well.

Speaker 4 (01:52:58):
But there you know that ain't know, yeah, but there.

Speaker 3 (01:53:02):
But they're saying, but they're on the same wave, right,
that they are the chosen people of God.

Speaker 4 (01:53:08):
It's the same thing, exact wrong, the same block. It
was the same.

Speaker 3 (01:53:12):
It was just them and they were They had the
same soundboard, everything was the same they had. It was
no difference, right, Yeah, But that's kind of how we
even in the nation of Gods and Earth is not
limited to it's black and Latina. If you're part of
that particular proximity, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:53:30):
And thought, well, guys, we went over on time.

Speaker 4 (01:53:33):
No Clarence thirteen next to.

Speaker 2 (01:53:35):
It's your fault. You see what I mean. Y'all don't
even know everything. Ten minutes to start the.

Speaker 4 (01:53:42):
Plot before we shout out to man the boyfriend for real?

Speaker 2 (01:53:49):
Yeah, yeah, thank you. Shout out to him.

Speaker 3 (01:53:53):
He's a part of this reconstructed you.

Speaker 1 (01:53:57):
I was gonna say, don't don't turn my niggas is like,
I mean, he has thoughts that I question.

Speaker 2 (01:54:04):
I probably understand.

Speaker 4 (01:54:06):
Oh no, I'm sure he is very aware. Yeah, aware
of everything talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:54:12):
I told my thoughts on the niggas on the corner
and he was.

Speaker 4 (01:54:16):
Like yeah, yeah, yeah, right right right now.

Speaker 1 (01:54:22):
He asked if I was taking it to the bar.
He said, boy, you just bring your.

Speaker 4 (01:54:30):
We do that's what we do.

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