STD’s & Everything In Between | Bonus Episode

In this bonus episode of Selective Ignorance, Mandii B is joined by super producer A-King and Jason “Jah” Lee for an entertaining conversation covering concert culture, hip-hop, nostalgia, addiction, celebrity headlines, relationships, and modern social dynamics. The episode kicks off with a debate about "cultural credit" and whether it's ever appropriate to ask artists and industry friends for concert tickets or backstage access [ 01:43 ]. The crew shares insider tips on navigating smaller concert markets and maximizing live music experiences [ 03:26 ], before discussing the tours they're most excited about, including J. Cole's The Fall Off Tour, Usher, Chris Brown, Lil Wayne, Vince Staples, and even unexpected performances at venues like SeaWorld [ 06:01 ][ 08:33 ]. From there, they examine how nostalgia continues to fuel the booming live music economy, with legacy artists drawing massive crowds decades into their careers [ 10:18 ], before reflecting on T.I.'s career resurgence, retirement conversations, and evolving ambitions [ 11:49 ]. A brief detour into stand-up comedy and future creative plans keeps the conversation moving [ 14:37 ], before the crew turns its attention to Future's latest album and the current state of Atlanta hip-hop, debating whether the city's sound is entering a new era of "reconstruction" [ 16:05 ].

The discussion then shifts toward addiction, public perception, and substance use, beginning with reflections on methamphetamine, the struggles of former Florida gubernatorial candidate Andrew Gillum, and the realities of addiction [ 19:39 ]. The hosts share candid personal stories about encounters with cocaine and nightlife culture [21:40 ], before discussing changing attitudes toward marijuana, mushrooms, and recreational drug use [ 25:29 ]. A humorous internet rabbit hole involving podcasters and alleged cocaine use [ 26:18 ] quickly gives way to a more serious conversation after reacting to Ray J's viral comments about sexually transmitted diseases [ 28:14 ]. The crew separates fact from fiction by discussing sexual health, misinformation, and the dangers of spreading inaccurate medical claims online [ 31:21 ], while also examining the public conversation surrounding Princess Love, accountability, and relationship dynamics [ 32:25 ].

Closing out the episode, Mandii, A-King, and Jah explore the emotional complexities of "savior" mentalities in relationships, discussing why some people feel compelled to rescue partners at the expense of their own well-being [34:50 ]. They debate male-centered relationships, unrealistic expectations shaped by pop culture and Disney princess narratives [ 36:19 ][ 37:28 ], before turning to lighter conversations about declining wedding and baby shower invitations, changing social obligations, and evolving friendships in adulthood [ 43:12 ]. The crew also weighs in on internet debates surrounding fashion, masculinity, and bedazzled men's clothing [ 48:25 ], before wrapping up with a playful discussion about Mandii's New York roots versus her growing Florida identity [ 51:03 ]. The episode concludes with final thoughts, upcoming announcements, and the team's signature sign-off [ 56:38 ], delivering another candid, hilarious, and insightful bonus conversation that effortlessly blends music, culture, current events, and everyday life. 

No Holes Barred: A Dual Manifesto Of Sexual Exploration And Power

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Mandy B.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Welcome to Selective Ignorance, a production of The Black Podcast
Network and I Heart Radio.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
You ready? Are you but a king? Are you ready?

Speaker 3 (00:10):
But a king?

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Are you ready? Are you ready?

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Y'all?

Speaker 4 (00:14):
Do it?

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Are you ready? It's a bonus episode, y'all here, we're
doing it.

Speaker 4 (00:19):
We're starting, We're starting.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
We're starting, like we're all right, we're starting it right now.

Speaker 4 (00:23):
It's happening.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
It's actually happening in real life already.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Well, just know we're already starting. We're starting, guys.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
And I didn't know if we were going to do
bonus episode because I just asked him if y'all want
to just go ahead and go to New York.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
But I guess y'all ain't about that life.

Speaker 5 (00:39):
I mean, you think, y'all y'all enough and plugged in
enough to be able to just show up to New
York today and have tickets?

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Well?

Speaker 4 (00:51):
Yes, because I don't ask nobody for ship. So now.

Speaker 6 (00:56):
So even if I ask today, I've still got some credit,
you know what I mean, I don't ask. This is
where you say they understand the asks a hypet today
and not be criticized for everyone knows.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
I ask. Yeah, yeah. I think they're understanding.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Like I saw niggas that worked for rock Nation putting
their little bubble on Instagram.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Don't ask me, can't do it.

Speaker 6 (01:19):
Jo McCullum, the actor actor that was on a wy
whole bunch of shit. He was on Twitter yesterday talking
about Damn, I hate asking people for something, but because
I guess he asked for the first night and he
wanted to get to the second night, and I was like, nigga, yeah,
and he's like, yo, but I hate doing it, and
I think knowledge jumped and was like no, no, no.

(01:40):
DJ Miss Milan was like, yo, you know who you are.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
Next thing you know.

Speaker 6 (01:44):
He posted like two hours later like yo, I asked
and I shall receive.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
I was like, there's some people yourself included. Yesself.

Speaker 6 (01:51):
If you have cultural credit and casheer, you can ask somebody.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Like yeah, nigga, let me ask you a question.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
We have a little cultural.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Cashe yes, man, yes, and access and tickets because we all.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Know contributions, contributions yes. So next week we all going
on your face you.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
I think in this room we didn't get this sent
to us.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Next week are we going through you?

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Like we know we got people we all got people.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
I'm gonna be honest, I've never asked, and I know
I could.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
So then you want me to craft your your request?
Do you want me to do you want me.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
To tell you how to ask in the text message
because I ain't gonna hold you.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
We gotta ask for full tickets or so it's you know,
that's like niggas tay fine, we stay.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
Fine, we should be all right.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah, I think so, okay, all right?

Speaker 4 (02:55):
And she got good credit over there. Here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
I want the credit to where we everybody backstage is
like yo, like or the riser's credit. I don't want
just the.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Hundreds, you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (03:13):
You remember Mandy has already had a running with State
Farm Security.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Okay, but after that, after that, I did Birthday Bash
because I'm with the radio station, so like, I don't
wait all of take me through that, I will say,
I do plan on also attending.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
The falloff in a smaller market city. I think for me.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
It's weird because I know a lot of people talk
about and I think for me, this was the first,
maybe last two years where a lot of my friends
to go see Beyonce actually bought tickets to Europe because
after the flight and everything, not only do they get
to experience another city, but the tickets are so much

(04:07):
cheaper and the seating that you get over it.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
No, it's cheaper in Europe.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
There tickets a cheaper.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
But also what's cheaper and the access is easier, and
it's just not a fucking headache.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
These smaller markets went to fucking Greensboro. Oh my god,
you want to, Oh my god, you just fucking walk
all you have to do. And this is no shade
to the people in small markets. However, well no, it's
not even that. Hear me out. The people for major
cities walk like they're supposed to be there.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
They walk, it's just the way you walk. No one's
gonna stop you if you look like you're just supposed
to be going aspect. You should have seen.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
We ain't have no press back, babe.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
We was walking backstage because we knew the curtains are here.
We just got to walk behind the curtains. Nobody's nothing,
No one's gonna say nothing.

Speaker 7 (05:00):
That's the key to all concert is act like you
supposed to be supposed to be on the floor and
everything be fine.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
And that's why too.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Going to a concert alone. It is a different experience
now I have and which is why I would love it.
For the majority of j Cole concerts, I have gone alone.
I've gone alone because I do not.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Have dream villaer.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Fands friends, and I've taken Crystal. I've gone to all
five dream Bills. I've taken friends that don't share in
the love, and it takes away the experience. No, Crystal's
a buster baby. She likes Trick, Daddy, Wayne and.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
Broadway, all the music that d one and I hate
it's her playlist.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
She knows Trina like the back of her hand, you know,
so very very She's Florida, Miami.

Speaker 6 (06:08):
I'm looking at the cities. Fall off is going to
be on looking for small markets. So we got so far, Charlotte, Miami.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
Tampa, Charlotte.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
He already hit that was the first week.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
As reading Baltimore. You want to Montreal?

Speaker 1 (06:21):
You know, Actually New York is not small.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
I don't even want you be a Serene in Queens
t Garden.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
No, Chicago, Boston, Boston is a white I might be
able to funk with Boston.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Boston to me isn't like a city. Niggas is that?
So I don't know how many white people dream.

Speaker 7 (06:42):
But like, no, like that, but by yourself again, got it?
I mean I know people Minneapolis. I don't want to
Kansas City, Kansas City.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Okay, let me tell you right now, hold on, dad
barbecue in Kansas City.

Speaker 7 (07:00):
That you go get Kansas City, some brisket Kansas City, Vancouver.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Actually, hold you know what's funny? At least say these
because shout out to everyone who lives in these cities.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
By the way your face, they could see you.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
You really the small markets like young, Wait, who wants
to go to these places?

Speaker 4 (07:22):
Sorry? Sorry, I didn't mean it like that. What's the
ate of the Vancouver show? Oh damn? I got the
dates the city give.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Me the other small markets to make you say.

Speaker 6 (07:32):
I mean, there's no real outside of shout out to Vancouver.
I mean you have Sacramento, Oakland, l a Inglewood, Sacramento.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Document would be one of those.

Speaker 7 (07:42):
Vegas, San Diego, Phoenix, San Diego, Austin, Houston, Dallas.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, so those at the end, that's the last No, no, no, no,
that's gonna be that's gonna be the.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
That's actually gonna be the small market.

Speaker 6 (07:56):
That's gonna be the super that's gonna be the craziest
thing international circuit.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
I mean I did see the international shows, but to me,
like a Dallas would be.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
So they're not Austin, San Antonio, Phoenix. Those are to
me considered quote unquote small market because they're not industry.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
Markets, correct, but in that small market in terms of
the reason.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
No, not in terms of the reach or the population.
But when I think small markets, I think where us.
Like how you just made all them faces? You know
who else making them faces?

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Sean Dickerson, Sean Ballion, Merrow, Like, we're not going to
see all of the US travel. Those are the niggas asking.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
For, you know, because all the niggas are gonna want
to go to the major city.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
You know what we.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Talked about Hove another episode we're talking about the falloff.
Are what other shows are y'all looking forward to? I know,
we know we see Chris Brown and us. You're on
tour a stadium tour. Uh shout out to t Lou
Uh start a tricky little Rocky But he's on tour.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Wayne, So Wayne is on tour right now too. What
other shows or concerts are y'all really looking forward?

Speaker 6 (09:06):
We just saw forty Sea World. Sea World is a
whole movie, so whoever is I want to go there.
I want to go seord.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
They've been doing that for the last two or three years.
They had Ying Yang Twins, they had val they.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Had the Millennium TOURDMN near s.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
SeaWorld looking lit.

Speaker 4 (09:24):
Yeah, we just saw like, wait, hold on, what is
this new?

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Or you just like a lot of people.

Speaker 6 (09:34):
Is every time I see it, I forget about it,
like okay, and it's I guess it's the thing.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
Yeah, no, it's it's doactly.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
I'm here.

Speaker 7 (09:41):
I'm looking forward to seeing Uh. I'm looking forward to
seeing Vince Staples when he goes on tour. I don't
know when that would be, but I really like his
new album, cry Baby, and I'm interested to see what
he does with this band sound and how he brings
that kind of to life with what it is.

Speaker 4 (09:59):
He's talking about on this record. So I want to
see Vince.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
I'm actually mad too, Uh found out too late to
make plans for it.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
But miss Jill Scott, Jill Scott.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Was just oh yeah, Scott was Jill Scott was just
here and I don't know music right now. It's it's
interesting because it's just Also, you want.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
To hear a nation so ignorant tape?

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Oh truth, Okay, what's the truth?

Speaker 4 (10:24):
The thirty five enough is running this ship.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
When I tell you.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
The economy, you know why people are suppording these shows.

Speaker 6 (10:30):
Catalog means a lot, yep, the longevity of the music
and these artists. I'm thankful that we get to experience
all of this shit together at the same time. Not
too far eight months, three months now.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
I'm not lie even And it's crazy because we work
so fucking hard for our money and I do love
seeing that people are like they gotta work hard.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
This is my luxury is seeing.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
These people, which is why I talks about like Rihanna
not being able to see her but like that.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
But that's why I mean d was with me.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Like going to the Millennium tour and experiencing it the
way I did was like nostalgia. Seeing the people respond
to jay Z, bringing them back to their youth, like
when we were children that like my parents couldn't maybe
I was getting school lunch, I was lucky if I
had extra dollars for my field trips and shit, like

(11:23):
we was lucky. My mama said, all right, we going
to Olive Garden because it was unlimited bread and salad.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Do you hear me?

Speaker 2 (11:29):
So like those type of experiences I didn't get to
experience as a kid. I even only got to go
to the theme parks because my daddy and my uncle
helped build the rides. When you grow up in Orlando,
someone in the family the park and gets tickets. But
like those were things that when you're in the growing
up in the nineties and early two thousands, those things

(11:50):
weren't even fathomable as children to be able to experience,
and so to now be.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Able to see.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
We were just talking about bro T I being on
that beat up as a top three rapper in twenty
twenty six, him about to go on tour with his sons,
like him having a resurgence, that running through the like no, no, no,
you can't go nowhere without hearing that ship he did.
He did the jay Z thing, cut off the blocks
and brought it back to ball. Why are you looking

(12:17):
like this? They can see you a king.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
What are your thoughts?

Speaker 4 (12:22):
I have nothing?

Speaker 1 (12:23):
You do have thought?

Speaker 4 (12:23):
I had a thought? No what you thought? She said?
Wait what?

Speaker 1 (12:29):
I'm sorry? I grew up?

Speaker 4 (12:30):
No, no, no, no, not about I.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Wait, King, I t Ip like this my head, it's.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
Not about you know what about ya? No?

Speaker 7 (12:39):
About the money? No, No, his face had nothing to
do with a musician.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
Whatever.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Wait a second, what did I miss?

Speaker 4 (12:50):
Nothing? You want you want to leave it alone? Yeah,
now you bring it up. Nothing.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Don't let me start guessing all the problematic ship.

Speaker 6 (12:58):
Now it's nothing. It's nothing but out of the TI.
I mean it's his last album. Yeah, I don't think
so he retired.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah, well, he said he was retiring form music when
he thought he was getting that seventy million. Then they
cut it and actually said, no, if you're just getting
eleven some shit, it was that much. It was about
a sixty million dollar different.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
What he thought was what he thought he was getting.
And you announced it and mind you.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Shout out to Tip. I got to go to Tiny's
fiftieth birthday. Yes, his motherfucking Christmas party was the best.

Speaker 4 (13:27):
Oh yeah, oh my god. Shout out to Hanna Kingly.

Speaker 7 (13:30):
Hand shout out to Hannah probably hand putting, but I
know them parties.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Was thrown with the budget of that seventy million. Oh yeah,
and so he retired. He said fuck this music ship.

Speaker 6 (13:42):
And he just opened up all that property to the
homes and the departments for the community.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Well, and I missed.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
He also is getting into his television and fell bag
I missed.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
Of course I was tired.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
He did just have the screening for Departments which is
oh Yeah, which is one of his one of his
films now.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
But he's actually done well in the music in the
movie transitional aspect to yeah.

Speaker 7 (14:05):
I mean, but atl is obviously a classic cult classic. Yes,
even though he had a small role and he was
an American gangster, he was in he was so like
he has a pretty hit.

Speaker 6 (14:16):
He had a couple of dealist ships that I I
can't remember the name, but this is part of his
I could see the interested.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
That he not doing it.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
It's why like I love even his stab at.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
To me, it goes to show like he's he's genuinely
creative and loves.

Speaker 4 (14:37):
This ship he's created, and he could have folded before
I was working on my bit.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
I'm gonna try it. I'm gonna do a one woman
show maybe top of next year.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
I can see it to show just a set, what's
the difference mean?

Speaker 7 (14:53):
A set would be like you go to a comedy
club and you do whatever they give you ten minutes
want to attach.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
To our selective ignorance live show.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
She is going to kill it. Thank you.

Speaker 6 (15:05):
Part of doing this ship you have to be not
just courageous and bold, because she's very bold.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
Can you imagine her doing a bit about.

Speaker 7 (15:15):
Tymicles and all that ship with the experience she had
in New Orleans. Perhaps I'm about to punch it up.
I'm also punching up.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
Hold on, you saw.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
You saw it on stage about being a.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Little dig bitch.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
I know you're gonna.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
And wasn't it good?

Speaker 2 (15:35):
So I'm working on my stand up. I am working
on my big shout out to my boyfriend. You have
to give him credit.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
He like drops the nuggets and then we like literally
punch it up together. So the little dig bitch bitch.
He helped me with that, Oh.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
I don't think he'll help me with the Israelite one.
But it's okay.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
I think you might be for that one. Might be
I got an ignorant take.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
Oh give it to us Atlanta.

Speaker 6 (16:01):
Atlanta is going through a rap reconstruction right now. You know,
and you know what the clincher was for me as
a New Yorker said if nobody said anything about this
future album, that is it and that And I'm for
Atlanta because I know the dope talent in Atlanta niggas
that can really do this ship.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
And I'm not saying he can't. I think it's just this.
We need to see an evolution of that now. Oh yeah,
I think. I think.

Speaker 7 (16:27):
I think where Atlanta is going musically is going to
be more independent, more like I don't know that you
have a mainstream Atlanta superstar rappers like that.

Speaker 4 (16:38):
It's not like that for a little while.

Speaker 6 (16:39):
And when I say that, I mean the.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
Ecosystem.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Did y'all hear it?

Speaker 4 (16:45):
To the first three records and.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Prayers to Kodak, I think we have to acknowledge that something.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
I don't even think those are new records.

Speaker 6 (16:53):
I think they just put the body of some throw
ways together and it just put it out more not
for nothing.

Speaker 4 (16:57):
I think that's generally futures.

Speaker 7 (17:00):
Like DJ Esco talked about this shit a lot when uh,
when March Madness came out, and like Future just goes
in there and records, and Esco was putting those records
together based on what was recorded, right, like even even
the King's Dead record with with Kendrick Future and Jay Rock.
You that that wasn't even in the verse, he said.

(17:23):
Future said he just did that ship at the end,
just kind of filling up space on the beat, and
then he heard the song and he was like he
was on Kindred like you kept that.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
I was just fucking around, Like that wasn't supposed to
be no real ship that you.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Yeah, you know, I was just fucking around. He says,
that's all the broken homes he created, as Wow.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
I was just fucking around.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
The comedy.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
The problem is the problem is okay, hold on, we
don't talk.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
About the plague of black men.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
They don't realize, like you know how we talk about
lean when we talk about these drugs. Look at all
the niggas that didn't created broken homes and kind of
what happened after a while.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
NBA Young Boy said, he's suffer right now, But you
have created all these godda broke homes. You don't understand.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
It's like a drug and it's really fucking with your mind.
That's what happened in the future. That's what happened to
motherfucking nb A young boy.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
I don't want to say it because he got a podcast.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Now, I don't know if y'all know Michael Beasley has
nine children.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
You act like it's what sex is not one side.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
I ain't gonna hold you though, the way that niggas
Israelites talk about how we taking the soul of our
partners because they go inside of us. We gotta talk
about what what it does to men when they fuck
with all these women these are looking ray J looking

(18:50):
now he ain't made no kids. I don't know if
the swimmers don't. The way he did with Princess Love.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
He's the only child though, right he doesn't have that's
his only child, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
As as long as you know, as far as we know,
as far as we.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Know now, the soul ties is and like.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Somebod these souls somebody souls might really be demonic and
they are seeping into the pores of these black men.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Literally tell them that future album was so bad, like
and Crystal Love's future. She said, we need to pray
for him, she said, because.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
She's blaming the lean she thinks that at this point
it's a drug that and mind you, I don't know
if y'all saw this, do your research. Do y'all know
the drug that has taken over the black community right now,
you're not gonna believe it.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
Methaphetamine. The motherfuck they all met, y'all if y'all.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Want to know what that is, because somebody just got
caught with I know, fucking Andrew Gillim Andrew motherfucking gill Now,
there's one.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
Thing the good Queen angel said, should give him, there's.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
One thing to like, Dicky, y'r ass and pay for
it and cheat on your wife. Y'all know, blacky cool then.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
Clearly has an addiction issue of some kind.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
I'm sorry to Dick and meth is crazy.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
That's what happens.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
He's a fan, you alumna. They could have Sait sat
here and got black politics into Florida in a way,
and Dick and meth ruined that for Florida.

Speaker 7 (20:24):
I mean, Addiction doesn't care who you are, I know,
doesn't care about your aspirations and your ambitions.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
Addiction is like, hey, we need to be fair.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
What did Angela say? She said, you give him if
he was a white politician, do you think she would
have said the same.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
Why did we do this? People have got.

Speaker 7 (20:49):
We should treat white people, not treating white people differently. Yes, always,
I don't care they getting It's not.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
The politics. She not got caught man.

Speaker 7 (21:01):
Yeah, well Marion Barry did. Uh. He was a wild boy,
but he was smart though he was an educated black man.
He just got caught with crack pipes.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
But that was in the crack era, right. It was
after that, after that, a little after crackpipes are coke.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
It was cracking Okay, you know, you know.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
That's that's a good rebrand.

Speaker 4 (21:22):
What cracking coke?

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Oh my god, same drug, just made a little bit differently.
No way chemicals, the way that they up charge. God
damn coke. It's why I never really got into it.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
I got introduced to it and I was like, okay,
you're gonna get it, mind you.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
And you know what, I've shared it on the decision decisions.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
My first time doing cokes was Wheezy, because you know,
she'd be into the ships.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
She brought this little bag and this is when I
was in college. This bag was like this big. It
was one hundred dollars, hundred dollars.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
And I was like, I know what one hundred dollars
a week look like? This don't look like And I'm
like comparing the drugs that so here was my problem.
So we go out to meat packing district.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
Yeah, that's drug.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
You got to do it.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
But mind you, wasn't as enjoyable to me because at
the time I was a bigger black bigem meat packing.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
No niggas in the crowd, like, it's all white parties.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
So so I'm like, girl, they don't want me here.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
This ain't for me. But also, you know what, I
like drinking.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
So this was also when I didn't have a lot
of money, and because there was white people in the room,
I was buying my own drink.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
So here I go. I'm saying niggas liked me.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
And when I actually approached me and I have a
conversation and buy me a drink as gentlemen, crackers don't.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
And I was the big girl at the time, so no, like,
this is me.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Two hundred plus and they're like, darker skin, I'm not
melanated enough for crackers anyway, So we meatpacking.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
I'm like, sure, let's do this thing.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
I don't feel shit, but what I do feel is
her wanting to rush to the next spot.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Well, I'm spending twenty five dollars to drink, and I.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Was so like, girl, I know you happy and you
want to be all out of the about it goes
to the next spot. Oh but no, baby, I know
you spend one hundred on that, but this was twenty
five dollars.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Yea, yea yeah, now I'm not rich. I'm gonna drink
my martini.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
So what I realized is not only did I not
feel it because I'm already a high on life type
of bitch, it was an expensive drug that like, bitch,
you spent one hundred on that, I'm still oh, I'm
counting my dollars here, okay. But I also was like,
what is the feeling you're looking for? So I did

(23:51):
another bump, still didn't feel it.

Speaker 7 (23:54):
I said, you know what, maybe it's the participation I
don't know of, the activity is not created the same. Also,
like I feel like it's not like yeah, like's not
what I'm saying, like, you know, so yeah, like it
might be, you know, it might be I tried to
coke one time, and it's it's like.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's different.

Speaker 7 (24:15):
But like the one time I tried coke in l A,
I didn't feel shit either, really was absolutely nothing. I
took one little bump and I was like, all right.
We was at this little bar in West Hollywood and
my homie had been like dabbling, and I was like,
all right, let me just see fucking we're here and
I feel absolutely nothing. All I felt was the tequila
and the beer that I was drinking, and I was like,

(24:36):
I don't get the I don't get the rush, and
maybe we're man yeah, yeah, maybe maybe that's what it was.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
And it was just like I did. But I didn't
see the hype about it. No.

Speaker 7 (24:46):
I thought it was supposed to have you like Red
Bull and like you're up and you're ready to go
party all night.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
And I was just like regular.

Speaker 7 (24:53):
And I was like, well, I'm taking a risk of
this ship being laced with something crazy to not feel nothing.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
I was like, I just keep drinking tequila, smoking. You
have the fear of having Bobby brown mouth.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
What is Bobby brown mouth?

Speaker 4 (25:04):
That grinding and you start getting this ship.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
I mean, to be a fair, I've only ever done
coke that one time, was never interested in it.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Again, it's not my just you know. I Also I
feel like I also feel like I hang around way
too many black people that that's not their dark choice.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Like I don't hang around Like to me, it's an
l a thing or an uppity.

Speaker 4 (25:37):
Thing that's costs like that hang with.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
So like even the eclectic ones are gonna do the shrimps.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Shrooms is like the new black eclectic drug that I'm like, okay,
and they put it.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
In the chocolate bar. They make it cute. Yeah, but
it's really just weed. Weed is like the go to
for my crowd.

Speaker 7 (26:01):
I just yeah, I just don't need more than that,
Like weed and alcohol is plenty for me.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Alcohol to me is weed alcohol. Okay, I lied, I
just show that I did something else.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
I mean, the molly is cute.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
Do you think the top ten podcasters who use coke?

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Oh, we're not gonna do this. What's right now.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
We're not going to talk about cocaine podcasters, but they
out here, they.

Speaker 6 (26:22):
Are here, God bless, God bless. I think I'm not
coke chaining either. That's that's your thing, you know what
I'm saying. They put tarifs on everything. I just can't know.

Speaker 4 (26:32):
Yeah, I want to try.

Speaker 7 (26:33):
I was trying to remember if Deontay had told a
story about doing coke before.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
There is actually a list, but they're all white Vaughn.
Dax Shephard, Oh, yeah, they probably talked about it on
the pod, y'all. We looked it up and it says, well,

(26:59):
there's no they're sure verified top ten lists who of
active podcasters who currently use cocaine as most popular host
strictly discussed. Oh, they have discussed past substance abuse, recovery
or harmony.

Speaker 7 (27:14):
Yeah, I was gonna say, they probably have talked about it,
and they Google is just pulling the information.

Speaker 4 (27:17):
I don't know who the other three are neither the
bottom one, bottom ones. I don't know who.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Well, well, the fact that Jack Nagel is the host
of Real Drug Talk, I'd say.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
That's sounds like a degenerate name, though, Jack Nagel, that sounds.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Like the host of Dopey, which is dope on the
dark comedy of drug addiction.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Makes sense.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
Dax Shephard, Okay, a deeper dive.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 4 (27:43):
The course first, of course, y'all did.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Yeah, I don't know, you know, boy, how do we
get here? This is a music pod. Now we went
from music to.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Drugs just meandering, I mean, and we got there because
of future.

Speaker 4 (28:03):
There was a segway to do drugs then the one
to take you there.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
But also you know who would be else as well?

Speaker 4 (28:09):
Ray J.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
And this is a clip that I actually wanted to
talk about on the last pod, but we're gonna talk
about it here. Uh Joah has never seen this clip.
So this is a live reaction. You all ready for
this one. This is ray J on one of his
streams or lives talking to a fan.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
That I can get rid of tomorrow. Why were the ones?
You can't that the tattoo ones that's tattooed forever? Those
are scary, but it's.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Fine because you know, I mean, you're not gonna live forever,
so you might just gonna take a couple of hits
godly and I.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Took a couple of hits it.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
So, and you'll enjoy the ones I got. I mean,
I listen, you'll enjoy the ones I got.

Speaker 7 (29:11):
So if we get together and I hit it raw,
just know that there's something you're gonna remember about me forever.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
And it's no.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
Look, she says, so would you still No, that's not okay.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
I don't I don't want to go through the motions.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
I don't want to go through the emotions like you
like I wouldn't want to have a sexually transmitted disease.

Speaker 7 (29:39):
And then it's it's gonna be hard for me to
be with you because the condom.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Can't help it. Oh my god, I love the s
TV that I can get rid of tomorrow. Look at Drop.

Speaker 6 (30:00):
He's been so active, and he told us he was
gonna die in six months.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
He did. He I mean, I'm not gonna lie though, hurt.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
He effects eighty percent of the population. Him saying I'm
a condom can't keep you. That's so that's true.

Speaker 4 (30:17):
Thing. So we're never going to know.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Obviously, we're never going to know, but we do know
that he had the conversation about celebrating the amount of
women he's fucked. There's been conversations about him also fucking
trans women and potentially maybe almost fucking men. Like there's
just all these things that he talks about. He is
clearly an addict to drugs, an addict to attention, an

(30:42):
addict of sex and women and others and them in
these but.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
He's doing it himself.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
This is this is my problem though, when we talk
about on Tuesday's episode, we talked about misinformation, right, he
has men that follow him, that look up to him, that.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Want this lifestyle of his right right.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
And so for him to say I like an STD
that I can get rid of tomorrow, I want you
all to know that those do not exist. There are
some STDs that, yes, maybe only one pill. A lot
of them are a series of pills. But even if
you take just the one pill, you advise to wait.

Speaker 4 (31:24):
Days before you interact, before.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
You interact again because it could still be transmitted.

Speaker 7 (31:29):
This is disgusting And why would you say I need
one that like you need one?

Speaker 4 (31:35):
What?

Speaker 1 (31:36):
It's just nasty, it's misinformed, it's gross.

Speaker 7 (31:42):
Eras you gotta relax, man, like this, there's something that
said he said about trolling.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
I guess if you're going to be a troll, But yeah, like, why.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
Do you like?

Speaker 1 (31:52):
It?

Speaker 4 (31:52):
Messed up? That young won't even know none of this?

Speaker 2 (31:55):
And I'll be honest with you, y'all want to know
what ignorant thought in conversation I actually had. So after
seeing this video, I played it for my homegirl. She
was like, you know what I feel really bad for?
She said, Princess Love. I said, why, Oh you agree?
I said, why, nope, nope, I can't. I don't give
a fuck. She knew exactly the man she was with,

(32:16):
and she was like, Nah, this nigga, wasn't that that
strung out, that burnt out?

Speaker 1 (32:21):
When I true, not.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
True, No, he's a burnout already.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
I hung out with ray J and Young Berg at
the time before he was at Maker. It's Young Burg
and ray J.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Kayeate Orange, Orlando, Florida. I was maybe nineteen, it's like
two thousand and nine, ten, maybe twenty eleven. I was
like nineteen twenty eighteen, nineteen twenty, it was around that range.
I was of age, no worries, but I hung out
with them. And when I tell you, mind you, let's

(32:57):
do the math.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
I am thirty five now. So this was fifteen to
seventeen years ago. And the way that man.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Carried himself, but his accessibility to women, the amount of
women he wanted around, I don't even know if everyone
was of age.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
There was clear drug use.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Then I saw his just wanting at titch Ho, how
he carried himself. And if I witnessed this fifteen plus
years ago, you knew that this person that you laid with,
that you chose to marry, that you chose to cheat and.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Leave Floyd Mayweather for.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Was this person of some capacity whether you got with him.
It's why I said I don't have empathy for Chloe Kardashian.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Not only did you not get enough time to get
to know lamar odom.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
Oh, but they jumped, but he was doing drugs.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
And you saw it early, did he?

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Do you think I feel sad that Tristan Thompson cheated
on your ass and had a baby? No, you know
why because you stole him at a wedding from a
bitch that he was with publicly, and you didn't care.
You didn't acknowledge the girlfriend that he was with. So
you and so when I say it was like feel
bad for Princess Love.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
She knew the niggas she was with.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
And there's this thing of like women wanting to show
up as saviors, wanting to like think that they're better
than the last bitch, thinking that they're not going to
get the version of a man that they've shown themselves
to be because they could change or be better for you.
Bitches are delusional things that they pussy gonna change a nigga.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
And so I literally was like.

Speaker 7 (34:43):
No, you sound like right now, I don't want to
know you.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Better not say academics.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Oh, I didn't know how to be coming for women,
and apparently women aren't able to.

Speaker 7 (34:57):
The accountability that you enforce. Sounds very black, like you
guys just don't have the scriptures.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
In your hand. Absolutely, they would, They would have wholehearted.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Talking about the poor selection that women have and men
and hoping that these men.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
No, the problem is still men and the behavior, but
also there's zero lack of accountability of the women going
for this man.

Speaker 4 (35:27):
That is not a general like the lifestyle like that.

Speaker 7 (35:29):
Oh, that's what I said, you know, that's what even
the excitement of whatever that person is bringing.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
So that's what I said. I said she wanted that lifestyle.
She wanted to be a Norwal to it.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
She wanted to be associated to Brandy the fucking Vocal Bible.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
She probably wanted Brandy more than she wanted.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
To say Brittany Renner. Right, she said she's Muslim, she.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Said seventeen other religions. To me, that's just the admittance
of being male center. Not that you're finding your but
that you're willing to morph into whatever you need to
be to please a man.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
That's the difference. What I think Brittany Renner.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
There's an admittance there, and she's associating it to religion
that she's taking all these values. But to be fair,
she's entered into these religious faces because of men and
to please the men and to be of a woman
that these men might want.

Speaker 7 (36:20):
Also, it doesn't sound like she knows herself. It's not
like she has no.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
It's not she let's generalize this shit. I'll stand on
the sword for it.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Women don't necessarily go into these relationships really valuing themselves
or knowing what they want either. And it's the idea
of these men. It's not who these men actually are.
It's the idea of the lifestyles that they could get
the access, the visibility sometime even if we look at
like and I'm just gonna say, the Kardashians love breeding

(36:53):
with black men, So then there's that.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
It's how they want their children to look, you know
what I mean. But it's oh, I want to make
the curly hair babies like I want. It's women.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Unfortunately, right we're raised, which is why I know I
never wanted to be a mom and don't care about marriage.
I can't go back to any time in my life
and think of children names, the dress I wanted, what
I wanted for a wedding.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
None of that ever mattered.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
It never was a thing of mine. Like I actually thought,
Ariel was stupid. Bitch, you gave up your voice for
this cracker.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
What did we talk about?

Speaker 4 (37:32):
I was not.

Speaker 7 (37:32):
I did not have that on my Bengal card in
no way, shape or form comedy.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Career, Pokahannas, I went away from her whole family fallward
Cracker for John Smith, like I never like thought these
bro and you know I like tall niggas.

Speaker 7 (37:50):
Avatar let the whole society get destroyed because a cracker
in a in an Avatar suit came today, came today
Land and all the crack of armies into love.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
He I mean snow White took took all them little men.
I ain't gonna call them the N words, but was
willing to be with a whole bunch of little men.
And then she was like cleaning up and ship after them,
cooking for them, and ship like girl, because they men.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
You let all these little men tell you what to do.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
I mean like like when I think of all of
the bro bro Bell with her finance.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Got with a beast an abusive one, a narcissist? What
is we talking about?

Speaker 2 (38:37):
I never like, oh, let me dress up as a
little princess, And so we grew up with all of
these thoughts of getting married.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
You ever had a Barbie doll? Never did the girly girl?

Speaker 1 (38:47):
You ready with the Barbie dolls? I grew up with
with splash it.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
I had the convertible bitch, I had my own house.
I was wearing a little mini skirt with the platform
all like, yeah, independent women outside.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
I'm an own car, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (39:06):
But yeah, when I think of like seeing a the
misinformation and leading of men, but also the lack of
accountability and in the selection that we have with these
men is just like baby girl, I mean, you have
to want more for yourself, and you can't date men
just with the idea of who they may be or

(39:27):
what they could become. You have to look at the
package in front of you.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
You have to do the work.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
I mean.

Speaker 7 (39:33):
People make bad choices for all kinds of reasons. Some
people are desperate for love. Some people feel like that's
the like finding someone to love them. Whether they come
from you know, a troubled background or not, I don't know.
Britney Render's whole background. But I imagine there's probably some
trauma in there somewhere, and sometimes people just do bad

(39:54):
shit because they just want to have love that bad.
Now I don't know that, and it's not even love,
is that. It's the that that feeling that someone will
uh not just provide for them.

Speaker 4 (40:07):
I don't think it's always about money.

Speaker 7 (40:08):
I think it's just having someone, having someone like I'd
rather just have a person who is my person, who's
supposed to, you know, technically care for me in various ways.
That feels good that you live this dream that Okay,
now I can be stable because I have this relationship
and it's like, I'd rather be solo than be with

(40:29):
somebody right now.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
And y'all Decisions Decisions is bulk recorded. But I've been
talking about these hoes, the bitches that I know, and
I say bitches endearingly by the way, y'all know what.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
I just love the word bitch. The women.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
That are in relationships and within my proximity, within my ecosystem.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
Do you know people who are happy to.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
Shout out to Britain Lena. But it's tricky because Lena
got to deal with an ex wife brings a lot of.

Speaker 7 (41:03):
Drama, But you don't know anybody that has a good,
stable relationship that's based on trust in respect.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
My homegirl, Brittany, how.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
Long have they been together?

Speaker 2 (41:13):
They are married with two kids. And however, however the
beginning of the relationship he took her through, took her
through the with the cheating on all that.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Do you think they went over the humps? Right now?

Speaker 2 (41:30):
They are like the most beautiful family unit and they're
so cool and dope.

Speaker 7 (41:36):
Would you feel differently about the whole thing if you
were exposed to more positive representations of what like good?

Speaker 4 (41:44):
I mean, every relationship has ship in it.

Speaker 7 (41:47):
We can't pretend that like even a good relationship with
a good two people that care about each other and
aren't like abusing each other and actually.

Speaker 4 (41:55):
In love still have troubles.

Speaker 7 (41:56):
But do you think you would look at relationships and
love different if you had Deo's type of influences?

Speaker 1 (42:03):
You know what's crazy about that?

Speaker 2 (42:05):
Because of the way I love and choose to show
up in my personal life, I feel like I am
experiencing a love that a lot of people haven't.

Speaker 4 (42:13):
Got to do.

Speaker 7 (42:14):
You feel like you had to invent that way that
you show up on your own.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
To me, it's what serves me.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
And it's just like like even being with my partner now, yep,
bumpy rope.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
We'dn't been through them, but.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
I genuinely just think that it's human beings. It's like
what you make of it. And so like, I've just
gotten to a point where I'm gonna listen, I'm gonna judge,
and I have nothing to say. I just did not
go to a wedding last week. I've decided, actually, you.

Speaker 7 (42:51):
Chose not to go because you don't believe in the
people who are getting married.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
A little bit.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
But I've decided that I no longer want an an
actual opinion to anyone's decision in family planning or love.

Speaker 4 (43:11):
And so moving forward.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
I'm gonna let y'all know, any of y'all listening, that's
my friends. I'm not doing weddings and baby showers no more.

Speaker 6 (43:22):
Okay, But but but you got to remove you you
go to these things support.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
I feel a phony, especially if and here's the thing too,
and that's been the problem, right, I'm supposed to be
supportive of a wedding right with a partner that is
abusing you I'm supposed to be supportive, like like there
was a part of me that like, I'm supposed to be.

Speaker 6 (43:44):
Supportive conversations with them and say, hey girl, I need
to talk to you as a sister.

Speaker 4 (43:50):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
And you know what's hard about that?

Speaker 6 (43:53):
Are you sure you want to go down this path
because of the information that you have at your disposal?

Speaker 2 (43:59):
And I can't because unfortunately, that same woman could look
at me and be like, well, you don't, you don't
want kids, you don't want a wedding, you did it?

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Or like or like you out here fucking on two niggas.

Speaker 4 (44:10):
So that's the difference.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
I mean. But here's the other thing.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
There's the there's the ass beating, there's the cheating, there's
the verbal abuse, there's the emotional abuse. There's layers to
the ship.

Speaker 4 (44:23):
And waste, money and time.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
You ready, How we define love is different for all
of us. And I'm no longer dictating what I define
is love onto somebody else.

Speaker 4 (44:36):
Yeah, no, you shouldn't.

Speaker 7 (44:37):
That's everybody's relationship is their relationship.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
Right, And so I'm gonna choose to be selectively ignorant
in celebrating something that's tumultuous or toxic.

Speaker 7 (44:47):
But what I guess my question is if you did
attend these weddings or these baby showers, what would it do?

Speaker 4 (44:54):
Like?

Speaker 7 (44:55):
What is the what would it do to you? Like you,
what is the detriment of doing that? You can just
go and just be there and just be like, all right,
y'all getting married on happen for you?

Speaker 4 (45:03):
If y'all like.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
I love money, I'm spending. I'm spending money. Now I'm
having to sit here.

Speaker 4 (45:09):
And be that car gonna be late right there? Checks
he beat your ass. I know this. This nigga ain't
ship like app give cars.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
Shared it publicly?

Speaker 2 (45:24):
Do you know how awkward it was being at the
gender reveal and baby shower to DeAndre and jack Queeze
when I sent her a bouquet of flowers that read
realized bitch about a nigga and told her to abort
the baby.

Speaker 4 (45:37):
What I know that this is public?

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Oh? I told this is if you'all go listen to
the episode.

Speaker 4 (45:47):
With with What was her response to you when he
gave her that?

Speaker 2 (45:50):
Well, first off, I supported her and having the baby
because she wanted to be a mother.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
She's also battled fibroids, okay, heavily.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
So for me to just was okay, the doctor is saying,
not only a miracle, this is a miracle.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
And so to me it was always like.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Wow, you want to be a momuck it that needs
to be first, because there was always the drama with
her and Queen Dreezy and all the bullshit. But that's
what I'm saying. That was me supporting so bitch ill
to send you a bok to board mission. And now
I'm also spending money to be at the baby shower
and gener reveal.

Speaker 8 (46:25):
Something is wrong with you if youth is wrong and
you've got a lot of shit going on, and man,
he's your best friends. Don't expect because she's judging you
as the hell.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
But it's okay, you bread But now I wait, you ready.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
I'm the one who's still waiting on twenty four hundred
dollars of twenty five because I've helped rent for three
friends last year, Like what are we talking about? What
are we talking? That's the that's the problem. I do
support my friends and all their wrongs and.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
What the fuck.

Speaker 4 (46:58):
So now aren't you becoming coach?

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Say hey, guys, because they don't do this because also
they don't want to live like me, don't.

Speaker 4 (47:05):
They don't have to live here.

Speaker 6 (47:07):
You're helping them avoid a major because what happens is
this based on what she's telling us, right, it's not
gonna end well, it's not gonna be a longevity thing.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
So as a friend, but I believe in nothing, last
thing forever either. But like people also feel like I
have a pessimistic catastrophic.

Speaker 4 (47:24):
You do not cynical of the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
I say, realist.

Speaker 7 (47:31):
But if you're aware logical abuse history, right, if this abuse,
it's not gonna end well, if there's abuse, that's I
wasn't talking about abuse unless you identify cheating an abuse
or not being truthful.

Speaker 4 (47:45):
But we're talking about like like.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
Just in general, in general, in general, hear me out.

Speaker 6 (47:50):
Maybe she thought Homie was gonna be the upstanding gentleman
and father slash partner.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
I didn't even know that little lep like who I
was shocked.

Speaker 6 (48:02):
I was like, all his friends were, why do you
because he's in your estimated a little les. I've seen it,
you said, I seen the tweet or maybe it was
a thread with somebody was like, oh, I bumped into
a nigga yesterday at the club on accident and au
rhinestone fell in my.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
Last night, and this nigga had a whole cross of beds.
So she was like, she was like, she was like,
she was like, girl, so here go, Crystal.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
We was some real aunties last night. She was like, bitch,
could you imagine rubbering your man back?

Speaker 4 (48:41):
Can go?

Speaker 1 (48:41):
And yeah, oh all the goddamn thing.

Speaker 4 (48:45):
By the way, to where did you come from? I
don't have no idea. Why is it still a thing?
You know what?

Speaker 1 (48:50):
Okay, I'm gonna say it.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
Gay straight men do not want to admit that they
take everything in that straight from the from the gay community. Yeah,
but no, straight men are now fuck fitting things in
their pockets. They're like making it okay to have merses.

Speaker 4 (49:11):
Now gonna say, like a lot of them turn.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
A person into ammerse.

Speaker 4 (49:14):
Well, the thing that niggas don't want to like.

Speaker 7 (49:17):
Even before we got to that point, niggas didn't want
to talk about the fact that like niggas would get
on these records and shout out all of these uh
designer brands, but I'm like, all he designed her brands.
Gay Manufacturer conceptualized by gay people.

Speaker 4 (49:34):
Like they they're giving you your drip, they're giving you
you being fly. You're getting this from gay people, so like, yeah,
you have to pay homage.

Speaker 7 (49:41):
So like I said, I said, and I said, on
the man, be a little gay, live, Be a little
gay and live, or you can.

Speaker 4 (49:48):
Just throw on some Timberland practice masculinity, you know.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
What I mean.

Speaker 4 (49:56):
But you know that part two.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
Uh, nonetheless, you would think I took a Molly I
over shared today, maybe still tingling, Maybe I'm still having
the remnants. I mean I did just three days of it,
So you know, that's that's very That's why I ain't
take the es baaloone with y'all.

Speaker 4 (50:15):
I had, I would have activated.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
I've had one drink since I've been.

Speaker 4 (50:20):
Back, draw Mandy list many.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Look now I'm sitting here really thinking like why, like
oh ship, I won't and why and why till I diebate.

Speaker 4 (50:35):
That's you know I had.

Speaker 6 (50:38):
I thought about you and Florida tattoo, and I'm like, yo,
she really get over on telling us that she's been
in New York for thirteen years.

Speaker 4 (50:46):
You was not in New York, Yes you not. There's
no no, I can't ever say I'm gonna let me
tell you right now.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
You know, based on my visits to Florida in the
last couple of years, based on relocating to the Bible
about hon New York is what makes me me right now.
I feel like my view on life, my sexuality, my confidence,
my money, my everything, my my navigating of the world,

(51:14):
everything that I am right now is because of New York,
because I do not see myself at all in Florida
outside of how I talk, because.

Speaker 4 (51:22):
Yeah, no one's gonna believe how you sound that you're
from New York.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
Did you know what?

Speaker 2 (51:26):
When I go anywhere else in the world, people that
haven't been from New York absolutely think I'm from New York, but.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
Think that it's the confidence and I'm loud.

Speaker 7 (51:36):
People say about me. But I don't know why. I
haven't figured out a lot of people from a little
not at first, a lot of people what I'm saying,
Like you don't he say, Lewis, Yeah, but people legitimately
would not believe any of that.

Speaker 4 (51:54):
They would be like York from somewhere, like nobody believed
that ship.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Hold on, Yeah, here go d looking up. How how
many years do you have to live in New York?
To be considered a New Yorker.

Speaker 7 (52:08):
This debate is never gonna end. No, it's never gonna
app because like this is a I was like, this
is a constant.

Speaker 6 (52:12):
We got to ask people from the city. Fuck that
Google shit right now. We gotta go to Brooklyn, go
to Queens like.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
A by the way, the consensus suggests arranged of two
to five years. Babe, I was there for thirteen.

Speaker 4 (52:24):
Hold on any real New York.

Speaker 6 (52:27):
Let you get away with problem now with everybody saying
claiming Atlanta off of County by the way, by.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
The way, Chicago, my formative years doesn't twenty one to
thirty four.

Speaker 4 (52:42):
But see to me, that's a little too late. Like anywhere, well,
hold on to.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
Is like old to ask you a question twelve ready
you ready?

Speaker 4 (52:52):
So what's a quarter orter.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
Zero zero to fourteen? What we're not gonna do that?

Speaker 6 (52:58):
Those are the things and that like the nutcrrect you know,
stay yeah, pao.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
Oh have I played stoop No? But I played Tonk.
But that's that's the Southern ship.

Speaker 4 (53:07):
Actually apparently my grandmother introduced me to Tonk. She's from
South Carolina.

Speaker 7 (53:12):
Yeah, I'm gonna say yeah, yeah, I'm gonna say I
think that people then went to jail.

Speaker 4 (53:15):
That's it could be that.

Speaker 7 (53:16):
No, my grandmother, we've had the conversation. Might you might
but somebody she might have learned it from.

Speaker 4 (53:21):
Maybe with the jail.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
I think I had this conversation on decisions.

Speaker 4 (53:24):
Decisions is a is a very sacon thing.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
Like pretty Ricky was playing tunk on stage.

Speaker 4 (53:30):
Yeah, I'm saying that's that's a regular game, that's you
would played.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
But there the thing, right, So.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
Zero to fourteen, Yeah, I lived in Orlando fourteen to sixteen,
fourteen to fifteen, sixteen, Atlanta sixteen to eighteen, Orlando eighteen
to nineteen, Atlanta nineteen.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
To twenty one, Miami.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
Yeah, you're Florida, but Miami is not Florida. No, it's not.
It's not.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
It's not, it's not you know, like the it's tricky.

Speaker 4 (54:02):
It's tricky.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
So I got Atlanta and Florida back to back from
my childhood. And then Nigga the A T L Bay.

Speaker 4 (54:10):
Yeah, you I will say, I mean the n y C.
When she did go to she went to the Final
Boss ny C. She lived in the Bronx off and
then straight to.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
Brooklyn. First you did, I was in Brooklyn, for four months.
I was I knew the in ditmas dollars dollar dollar
band me baby, you ready? Are you ready? Don't want
to know my history? Baby. I opened up the apple
Bee's across from the Barclay.

Speaker 3 (54:40):
That was me. That was me.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
I opened up that bar, and then I thought a
bitch because I said, don't let the light skin fool you.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Bitch. Yeah, I'm from Florida and I'll whooped your literally
I walked. I was about to fight one of the
other bar tenders. It was a real ghetto. I was
very you know, Florida, very fun.

Speaker 6 (54:56):
That's why people outside of New York or Atlanta thinks
she's from New York because of the aggression.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Oh yeah, oh whoa, I'm I'm a lover. I did
I did, yeah because she was disrespectful as fuck, but
so open up the bark.

Speaker 4 (55:08):
Ladys.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Then moved to the Bronx, lived only off the sixth Line.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
I'm a Leaman College Cuney graduate, bab Hello Hello, Yeah,
worked at worked at e Y or did go but
all in in the city. I became in college and
I was in finance because I didn't even know those
careers existed until I got to New York.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
Okay, like everything.

Speaker 7 (55:34):
About like your development as an adults, as a Yes,
in those places.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
Happened, me going to sex clubs, me navigating me, like
living with like getting my hustle game.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
I mean I've always been a hustle because I'm Jamaican.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
But New York, bro, And then they literally mind you.
I was scared of New York as a Fluoridian. I
had a full rider to Saint John and didn't take it.

Speaker 4 (55:59):
Oh, because you didn't feel like York.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
They shoot each other and rob you when you walked
up the street like that was you know what I mean?
And then I went there and I made it work. Anyways,
we went over way over, guys, Thank y'all, this is
a bonus episode.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
I just boy, did I overshare?

Speaker 2 (56:19):
You were just being but also make sure I only
reiterated things that I knew I've already shared publicly.

Speaker 4 (56:26):
Yeah yeah, yeah you did anybody? Oh?

Speaker 1 (56:29):
I told him to his face, came on the bottom.
I'll save her flowers. Let's say, realized fun about the nigga,
but I wrote it like the city girls.

Speaker 4 (56:39):
That's crazy L A B T A. Guess what, he
didn't prove you wrong and didn't. Niggas never do. So
that's the other problem. I can't defend them. You know what,
Here's that you was who you was before you got
you got.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
And what happens is you just gotta be a little gay.
All right. Well that note, guys, this is a bonus episode.
Hope you'll Jordan.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
We were from music to drugs to women needing accountability
yet again, Jesus Christ.

Speaker 4 (57:07):
STDs and everything in between.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
Oh there it goes the title.

Speaker 4 (57:15):
They want one that they could get rid of. Just
don't get it, just don't get it at all, or
just shut the fuck up.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
No, No, I actually, like I will say, if he
is going into sex like this, I'm only not mad
because he's letting you know, you fuck with me, you're
gonna leave with something that you gonna remember. And for me,
as someone who knows how many people are not open
about the things that they have or or could have

(57:43):
because they don't go get tested and things like.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
That, well, yes, this was very ignorant of ray J.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
There's a little bit of like, well, thank you for
sharing that, because you're giving your sex partners information that
other people do not, So thank you, ray J.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
I'll never say that again. All right, guys, this is
the bonus episode.

Speaker 4 (58:02):
Thank y'all.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
Make sure y'all check Selective Ignorance everywhere.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
My bye.

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