Season 2: Back and Still Whack

It’s finally here! After months of waiting, the trio is together again, and “Shrink This” is back for Season 2! Celia returns with an update after last season’s “Fixing Celia” cliffhanger, Nick remains proudly unfixable, and Lisa spirals over discovering her future gravestone is way bigger than she anticipated — which somehow becomes a surprisingly emotional lesson about shame.
What starts as jokes turns into a conversation about outgrowing your family, feeling weird for doing “better” than your parents, and the quiet fear that success makes you ungrateful or disloyal. Add in listener letters from people who feel like disappointments, black sheep, and underachievers, and suddenly everyone’s unpacking the same thing: you’re not broken — you’re just growing.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Lisa Lampinelli is not a licensed therapist or life coach.
She is a meddling advice giving yana and know it
all and her words come from her head, her heart,
and often out of her ass. This podcast should not
be misconstrued as therapy, should be taken with a huge
grain of salt for entertainment purposes only.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
These You need help, You're the problems. Come on, come down,
go clab, take a pill. I think you're insane. Do

(00:37):
what I say? Dumb ass, listen to me. You a
bad disloyal listeners. Welcome back to Shrink This Ni Shrink
This with Lisa Lambinelli back for season two. Didn't you,

(01:02):
miss us? Didn't those three months.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Feel like in a dentity? Didn't it just feel like
what happened to my life? Tuesday comes around and there's
no lease. I have to listen to something else, something
that's better, more popular and well produced. Well, speaking of
well produced, guess whose producer came back with a vengeance? Yeah, sir,

(01:31):
Little miss Celia has survived and thrive and.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Lenarm she's wearing a bra Celia's back and Nick Scopoletti
by unpaid, untalented balld not as fat and girthy sidekick.
Look Aunck, I'm here, ladies, Nick, Where could they find

(01:58):
you on social You could.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
Find me scopes on Instagram and TikTok and and.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Where can you find me?

Speaker 4 (02:05):
You can find you on Instagram at Lisa Lampinelli.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
And where can you find Celia and.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
Zara shopping for new clothes? Yat high her high tits.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Now she's nailing light. So we took a little break,
and I'm telling you the half dozen emails of oh where.

Speaker 5 (02:27):
Have you been?

Speaker 2 (02:28):
There were a full six people who gave a shit?
Now I've named all those people in a previous podcast,
and they are actually just my friends. No one else cared.
But we came back anyway because we're contractually obligated to.
I am yes, So I have to ask you. Let's
find out an update of everyone's life that's happened in

(02:50):
three months. I will say nothing has changed for me,
same blue hair, same Juno's I'm back. I'm yelling the
word just kidding, and by that I mean nutrition because
when I look at the two of you, I'm like,
you two have been killing it physically. Nick, what's changed

(03:11):
for you? You're looking good and well? Hung dog? No
don't do not hit him up. Let him learn the
lesson that when he talks like that, he gets no reward.
Who is not a good boy? Right there, me and Celia?
We have Celia speaking of good girls. Yes, Celia is back.

(03:34):
Now did you fight to produce someone else instead? Did
you say like they I have three months off from them.
I'm so glad they're gone? No? Really, Yeah, I'm kind
of trying to essess if I believe you.

Speaker 5 (03:46):
Yeah, I'm telling the truth.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Do you enjoy your time even after? For those of
you don't remember the last episode that we taped back, oh,
when the hell was at September, we kind of tried
to fix Celia, grilled are a little, gave her a
hard time, but from what I think, sounded like sound advice.
So you didn't take that badly and you actually decided

(04:11):
to reconnect with us?

Speaker 5 (04:13):
Now, yeah I did. I had a good time last season,
so I'm back.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Oh? Was it is that?

Speaker 5 (04:18):
Like?

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Are you squinting? Is that your tell for I really
hate it and I'm lying. I really love you, daddy
kind of thing, even though I'm mad at you. Yeah,
that's right, all right, So let's update what happened in
your life since our break. Because for those of you
who might not remember, a quick recap Celia came to us,

(04:40):
We're going to do a full episode called Fixing Celia.
We'd fix all her issues. She had one fight that week,
that's all we got to because she had a messy bit.
She was raised in a divorce household by wild immigrant Italians.
One's a drug addict. We're not sure which one. I'm
sure she's lying and we're like, oh, but what's really

(05:01):
annoying her is her friend? Okay, yeah, that's that must
be it. So did you. The friend was mad at
you because you had been diagnosed to hypochondriac, which I
fully was truthful about that. I would not be friends
with the person like that because it would annoy me.
I'd put them in the back seat. Your friend was
triggered by this, was annoyed with you, and it told

(05:22):
you a laundry list of things wrong, and you took
this very personally. You were angry, and I advised you
to calm the fuck down, assess what you love about her,
make some lists of things you adore and are grateful
that she has brought into your life, and maybe have
a constructive non violent talk. Did you do any of

(05:45):
these things?

Speaker 5 (05:45):
I did?

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Wait? What I really did all of them? No?

Speaker 5 (05:49):
Okay, I didn't make the list, but I did everything else.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Okay, Which was what happened? What transpired? Well, I'll tell you.
So we did.

Speaker 5 (06:00):
We did our episode, and that night Dua Lipa was
playing at Madison Square Garden. So I went, and I
don't know what it was about, Like, I don't know.
I think it was the combination of just kind of
being told how it is with humor, as well as

(06:20):
the fact that I had gone to therapy four out
of five of the weekdays that wow you, and like
concerts are really therapeutic for me. I just think like
all of that combined. I was in the cab on
the way home from the Dualipa concert, and I was like,
you know what, I was wrong? Like I was wrong
and I needed to like like, oh my god, I

(06:42):
cannot believe I acted like that in general, like in
like the grand scheme of things, what I was being
confronted about. She was like right in some sense, maybe
not all of the way, and the communication maybe it
wasn't great, but like she had a point. So in
the from the Dulepa concert, I was listening like cathartic music,

(07:02):
looking out the window, and then I wrote like long text,
just kind of putting it all out there, like reflecting
and falling on my sword. And then I had therapy
again the next day, so I read it through with
her and was just like, what do you think? And
she was like, this is like what I've been trying
to tell you for all four of these days.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
This isn't been funny. How it took a therapist five
days and it took me an hour. I have to say,
just to interject a commercial for myself, Lisa Lampinelli is
a terrific non certified therapist. I think you all cancel
all your appointments, go off your medication, take Thailand all
and become autistic and just listen to me. But no,

(07:45):
I pride myself on giving you a few hints for sure.
But also obviously I'm joking about the therapy that is
really transformative.

Speaker 5 (07:53):
Yeah, I think it was like kind of the combination
I needed, like some tough, funny love and then also
like kind of gentle parenting almost.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah, so I kind.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
Of got the best of both, and then I figured
it out, and so I sent the text and it
ended up fine. Now we're like chilling.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Oh my god. So you when she got the text
where you were like, you know, what did you say? Like,
I'm I can read it. If it's that long, I'll.

Speaker 5 (08:25):
Read like the first couple of sentences.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Okay, see, here we go, just to scroll through everybody
who's yelled at her today and made her change studios.
By the way, speaking of which you leave three months. Look,
they put you in the downgraded loser studio. Gotta say
these ihearts. You know, that whole thing where you're like,
oh my god, make them miss you doesn't work because

(08:47):
they did not miss us, and they said go in
the little room. Everyone puts baby in a corner.

Speaker 5 (08:52):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
So what I'm saying, okay, so do you find it?

Speaker 5 (08:54):
Yeah, I'm just gonna read the last sentence because it
summarizes it. Oh good, Thank you all for bearing with me.
And again I apologize for the discomfort, stress and fear
that I might have caused. All I can do is
try my best and put my best foot forward, and
that's my plan. I'm always here for y'all no matter what.
And I hope this doesn't drive a wedge between me
and the two of y'all.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Wow. Other than those y'alls, which I want to punch
you vigorously in the face twelve times, you can. We
are going to.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
Next speaking of have you gotten any diction in these
last months?

Speaker 5 (09:26):
And I will never change it?

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Okay, that's not diction. That's my language jargon. There you go.
Diction is how you speak, Yeah, it is. That's how
you know what I mean? You know what I mean?
Look up diction, look up, send your ass up and look.
Diction means how you actually say physically a word, how
it comes out of your mouth. Y'all is jargon, and

(09:50):
I think, honestly, i'd love to analy sometime in the future,
maybe the season two cliffhanger of you being so attached
to the or little like that, like, oh, I you know,
that's my addiction, that's my thing I have to I
my identity as a Southerner. I'm clinging to it. That

(10:10):
So we'll just do that at some other point.

Speaker 5 (10:12):
I don't feel that way.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Well, yeah, but didn't I make you realize? Shit, you
didn't realize last week. So maybe just say thank you,
look at me and say I would be happy to
have this help crawfish. Yeah, yell, I only know that
because I have an ex friend who is rich. Nobody
has more ex friends than the sixty four year old

(10:35):
coun there's your little thing for the beginning of the show.
She would turn on that fucking accent when she thought
she needed it. When they want to flirt, when they
want to be more like, Oh, I'm so yell night
y'all like you night God, and I go. Stop with

(10:57):
the fucking Alabama ship. No one's buying it, bitch's but anyway,
So what does diction mean?

Speaker 5 (11:05):
Next?

Speaker 4 (11:05):
Addiction is the choice, just like being gay. It's a
choice choice and use of words and phrases in speech
or writing.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah, I don't think that's a good definition.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
Number two says the style of annunciation in speaking.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
That's what I'm talking about. It's arenation. Oh right, you
can tell we haven't been behind them in three months.
We're so fucking stupid and getting I know nothing's changed
with him, but Celia, I think there's this is a
Are you happy now with how your relationship with your
friends have washed out?

Speaker 5 (11:42):
Yes? I think I'm still getting used to.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Changing what needs to or needed to change.

Speaker 5 (11:52):
Like like what we talked about like who I talked
to about certain things.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Right, it's just discerning and judge. It's like who I
picked to do certain things with. You know.

Speaker 5 (12:04):
Yeah, I guess it's just harder because like it's my
place of home. Like it's my home.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
But even if you would grow up, say if you
had three brothers and sisters and two parents, right, you
might be like, oh, that's the sister that I go
to for that. Yeah, totally, that's the mom. Mom doesn't
like that subject. Maybe dad does.

Speaker 5 (12:25):
But I guess, I mean, there's like nobody in my
home who can fit the like what what it? What
it was? I don't know what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
So you have to farm out, yeah, something like.

Speaker 5 (12:36):
In my in my home, I like I have to
kind of censor some of the things there.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Sometimes you people need to censor yourself. Yeah, I agree.
You know it's a little mind women. Yeah, but I
also think with you and all of us, the I
think the most the best question that got the best
results last week from you last week when we taped
it ages ago, I've had to listen to it again

(13:03):
so I remember what she was yapping. The thing that
came got the best results was asking you if you
had a friend with this problem, what would you say
to them? Yeah, because you had that knowledge in you.
So a lot of that is doing that daily. Say,
your home, you feel like unhinged about some problem and
you can't go to them. Okay, so what would my

(13:25):
best self tell me? What would I say to somebody
I was coaching through this, You'd be like, you can
journal about this. You can just talk yourself down off
the ledge. A lot of this self soothing can happen,
so you won't not that you're a burden to everyone,
but if there's someone around who you feel you are
a burden too, you can work on it yourself.

Speaker 5 (13:43):
Yeah you know, Yeah, that's what I think I've I'm
learning still, Like it's a process.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
If you're working at this young age on self soothing
and nervous system regulation, which is really important, dude, think
about like, you won't be some unhinged crazy person in
their thirties who's like hitting their kid or yelling at
them or yelling at the husband. Like it's just all
saved so much trouble if you can actually take a
second and do it yourself.

Speaker 5 (14:12):
I agree and I disagree.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Yeah, because self work doesn't work.

Speaker 5 (14:17):
No, because I think, like I said in the last episode,
I've been in therapy for so long that in different therapists, like,
it's not like the same person. I've tried different things,
different methods like eye movement, therapy, everything, right, Yet I still,

(14:38):
like you would think, I have like a novel of
knowledge in self soothing and therapy and all of that.
But yet I still can't seem to really enact the
things that I've learned over twelve years.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
I mean not yet. Yeah, but it's called a practice
for a reason. I was talking to somebody who was
coaching the other day about having a gratitude practice, and
we do. I have to do it every day. Well,
it's called practice. If you want to get good at
gratitude or anything else, you've got to go to the
gym of this thing and make it happen. So you
can't be there yet, you just have to daily when

(15:16):
the things come up, just question it. And if you
end up but just venting to the wrong person, Okay,
I'm in a mistake. It's fine, you know, I'll live.
They know I'm doing my best. I'm trying, but yeah,
you're you'll just noticing it makes you make the progress.

Speaker 5 (15:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
Yeah, that's all you can do.

Speaker 5 (15:35):
Man.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
It's just I get the same way. I know exactly
what you're saying. There's times where I've gone to therapy
and I'm like, I'm in there and I'm like, I'm
thirty seven years old, Like why don't I know this already?
And it's like, well, I didn't do any of this
shit for yeah, and now I'm just starting to fucking
do it, like for the last three four years. But
there's moments where I look at it and I'm like, like,

(15:56):
you almost feel I know for me, and Lisa always
tells me not to be but like I'm like, inis
that I have to like reach out to friends.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Or reach out to it.

Speaker 5 (16:02):
There No, totally I.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
Get what you're saying. But like you just like you said,
it's a practice, dude, you just have to keep going
because there's people who don't do it and you can
tell and the people usually you don't want to be around. Yeah,
and I've said this before at least, like there's moments
where I'm like where you're working on your shit and
it's so hard, and but you're like, but those people
just ignorance is bliss over there and you're like.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah, but it's not right because they aren't people who
are operating from their highest good and you don't want
to be around that, you know, So you're doing all
the right stuff. You guys are very hard on yourselves
because look, I'm sixty four and I'm still like going
to the drink once a week. You know, you won't
need to keep having emergency sessions five times a week.

(16:47):
You know, you'll probably even if it went down to
four or three or some weeks it's five. Who cares.
But it's staying in the game and just doing it,
but also learning, maybe refresh ask the shrink for some
a refresher course on self soothing or on emotional regulation,
because you may be ready to hear it now and

(17:08):
practice it now, whereas if you heard about it two
years ago, maybe it didn't land.

Speaker 5 (17:13):
Yeah, and I got a new like specialist for my hypochondria.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
That's great.

Speaker 5 (17:20):
So that way, I think I'll learn a lot of
new things.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah. So you, I mean, it's all going well. It
seems like to me. We'll keep it up. Well, We'll
keep checking on you and making sure you're not unhinged.
One thing we did bring you before we go on
a break is we were a little sick of you
and your baggy fucking clothes and your bralis bullshit. We

(17:49):
look at I have brought you.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
Hold on, wait, no relax, told you it is a
good surprise, you psycho.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Drifting is my life. I have brought you. I thrifted
my favorite chop, which was my garage. All my clothes
were that. I was like, well, these will come in
handy for some gay pride things someday. Instead, I brought
them to you, and I brought you bra. I brought

(18:21):
Celia an enormous sports bra color too. Girls today you
don't want to wear a bra, well, then just pretend
you're doing a sport and you a wear a sports
bro And here's a real bra never worn right there
those titties, so you are gifted's clothes. There's these lovely

(18:51):
that's J Crew. There's Adida sweats, there's Zara, two pairs
of Zara jeans. I and there's actually really good pair
of n why d J jeans. This is my way
of saying to you, you floppy titted cun I don't
care if you wear them. I don't care if you

(19:15):
throw them in the don't throw them in the garbage.
You would give them to goodwill or to somebody who
needs them. And these are all maybe worn once. So
what I have to say is is a way of
you saying, oh, let me see what clothes that fit
look like. Let me just not get rid of them.
It's fine. Let me see if I feel even infinitesmally
a little better with clothes that fit and show who

(19:38):
I am. And like I said, you don't have to
get rid of them, I don't care, but figure out
that you are allowed to look good. Does that How
does that land for you? Or do you feel this
has been such a traumatic thing for you to look
at two of my old bras.

Speaker 5 (19:54):
No, I think that's very kind.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Really, Oh, I do of people who can receive again,
you know what I mean? Because some I mean some
people can't. It's very They're like, so you don't feel

(20:20):
as a gen zer? Oh how dare you control my body?

Speaker 5 (20:26):
No?

Speaker 2 (20:27):
I almost didn't bring them there. I sort of God,
they were in my garage enough trauma. Yeah, but you
know what like sometimes when you say that somebody wearing bra,
they go, I will not inherit your generation's shame over.

Speaker 5 (20:41):
Well, they're overthinking.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
They are okay, good, good, all right?

Speaker 4 (20:46):
Those are yours?

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Well I didn't wear them, but yes you can. Yeah.
It's like that. I push him down. I push him down,
I push him down. I don't enjoy. We focused a
lot on Celia. We haven't focused on Nick, but he
hasn't really earned it.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
I think we should focus on meymore.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Honest, Mike off, please for Nick. Something else, as I said,
had come up during the discussion with Celia last episode,
where during a segment on her being worried, I got
a text randomly from my funeral director because you know,

(21:28):
I pay an advance to not trouble anyone girl, because
I was worried that my headstone would not be installed
in time if I would meet an untimely demise. So
as we're talking to Celia about worry, I get the
text saying, congratulations, the headstone'es in. You have nothing to
worry about anymore. I go, isn't this ironic that I

(21:49):
wasted ten months of every once in a while coming
up going oh man, I'm so WORRIEDS not gonna happen.
Suppose I Diana car wreck. I mean, it'd be terrible
somebody else would have to follow. I'm like, look at that.
I worried for nothing. Well, I this is what happened yesterday.

(22:10):
I finally get the nerve up. It takes me months. Now,
I'm a big cemetery gal. I enjoy putting a flower
on there. Whatever. I work up the nerve to go
look at the headstone. It's not gonna have my name
on it. Duh, that'd be really fucking weird if it did. Already,
there's something that happened. I guess I didn't measure it.

(22:36):
It is literally two times the size of everyone's headstone
in the entire cemetery. I drive up and okay, what
do you have to know is I helped my mom

(22:56):
pick out my dad's in hers. She I thought it
was I mean, it's gorgeous. It really is, probably the
nice one I've ever seen. It's black, it's shiny, it
has an etching of up when my dad's paintings on it,
a lighthouse, and oh it's beautiful stars, moons and really
beautiful palm on the bottom. And it's not gaudy. It's
very sort of New England, right, because he loved Cape Cod.

(23:19):
That tombstone at the time costs fifteen thousand dollars, but
it's for my dad and mom. Who cares. My mother
was like, I don't care. So this tombstone I saw
when we were picking that out. It had a star
inlay and a moon inlay, and I go, isn't that sweet?
It kind of matches theirs. It's like, oh, the child

(23:41):
of these people, well, yesterday I drive it is literally
double the size of my parents. So they have this
little dwarfed.

Speaker 6 (23:52):
Little probably no it is, but taller taller too, So
my parents, my parents is the most appropriate science.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
It would have never dawned on me that it would
be big like it was like, oh, because it was
already existed, so I wouldn't have measured. I just loved it,
and my mother actually liked it. When she's like, she goes, oh,
that's so sweet. So I'm assuming it's gonna look right.
They put it in and I look at this thing
and I am so embarrassed, and I have tons of shame.

(24:33):
Starts to come in and I'm like, oh my god,
and keep taking pictures of it from different angles. The
ironic part, by the way, is that it was already made,
so he gave it to me at a discount, so
it only costs ten thousand. So I literally think to myself, logically, okay,
it only costs two thirds of what my parents did.
But it looks like I think I'm a big shot.

(24:55):
And I started having shame. I actually started crying. I'm like,
this probably the first time I mentioned it, so I
might get tearful. Oh my god, everyone's gonna think I'm bragging.
Everyone's gonna think I think, who the fuck I am.
Everyone's gonna think, oh, she has money, she had to
be better than her parents. And I said, I literally
just sat there and I said, what would I say

(25:16):
to Celia? And I did? I go, if you were
coaching someone with this problem, what would you say? And
I instantly knew Nick knows this because he's seen a
show that I wrote about this. There was no one
on the fucking earth who was more stoked than I
did well except my mother. My mother was like, when
we went to see a house once that I lived in,

(25:37):
she grabs the waiter's hands, she said, look at this,
look at this place. And then my daughter did this,
and she did it all herself. Nobody helped her. She's
self made. So I was like wait a minute, that's
what she'd say about this. First of all, she had
already loved how it looked. Second, she would be like,

(25:58):
so what, you're the big shot. Oh, you're good fucking good.
And my dad would be just from an artistic standpoint,
would have loved it because it's just so pretty. And
I even thought, then what would I say to someone
who was a coaching So I would tell them to
remember that, and then I would also remember I can
have written on that stone anything I want. Sure. Originally

(26:19):
I wanted to put big dick energy on it, but
already this stone literally has big dick energy. It does
be overkilled. I just might put it on the back,
on the front, I honestly said to myself, I want
to have carved on it. The real stars are over
there and point because they're to my right, or they're

(26:43):
the real stars, and I I'm the only one who
needs to know what that means. And p s. Of
course I worry. Will my cousins come and judge me?
Will you know, answer her uncle's grandparent whatever, whoever ever exists,
nieces and nephorts will be like boring. She thought she
was better than her parents. I can't control what they think.
They probably wouldn't anyway, but just me coaching myself. And

(27:06):
again that's the self soothing through like cause at first,
I swear to God, I was like, I have to
call Amy. I have to call her. No, she's at work,
but this is an emergency. I'm about to cry. I
let myself cry. And by the way, crying, as you know,
doesn't kill you. It lasted literally thirty seconds, and I
was like, oh, then my head cleared up a little,

(27:29):
the headache cleared up, and then I was like, coached
myself through it. So that's what I'm talking about with
the self soothing. I said, Oh, this is really great,
And then I wouldn't this be a great topic for
a podcast because how many kids out there have done
better than their parents and have guilt over it. How
many of them have parents who make them feel guilty

(27:50):
or they haven't lived up to what their parents wanted.
I was like, I think we got to do a
podcast on those parental expectations and how we feel when
we underdo, don't measure up or surpass them. And is
that okay? Does this make sense to you? Nick?

Speaker 4 (28:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (28:06):
It?

Speaker 4 (28:08):
I love I love that you are you really going
to engrave that the stars are over there.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Yoh yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, because I truly feel that way,
like there's no me without them.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
True, you know, I think I think for that while
you were talking, I just kept thinking about like one
of my friends whenever I'm going through stuff. And this
kind of goes back to what we said earlier. We
were talking to Celia about how like I feel shame
about reaching out to friends about things or if something
doesn't go I just like I feel like I'm bothering people,
which like we all get that right, but knowing and

(28:42):
one of my friends, when I'm close to who I
went to, he told me he's like, dude, like if
you spend your time worrying about what other people think,
He's like, that's gonna He's like, you're not gonna get
shit done. You're just gonna be walking around looking for
approval and all this stuff. So I totally get that.
I the more the older I've gotten, the more the
work I've done, Like I would say, even from like

(29:02):
two years ago or a year ago, I really cared
about what people think, and slowly it's like just really
falling away. And that just comes from doing work on shit.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
I know it's all us going what they that oh cliche,
what they think about me is none of my business.
It's hard to enact that, you know. But I mean
also like there's, first of all, even twenty four hours later,
this is literally less than twenty four hours later. I'm like, oh,
I don't have to really like vent to this to

(29:31):
a friend. It's fine. I probably will mention it to
the shrink if I remember, but it felt traumatic in
the moment. But then I'm like, make some good out
of it. Do the podcast about it, you can kind of.
I even think it's kind of funny. Now I didn't
fucking measure it. I literally made a mistake. I don't
I don't know. Honestly, you'll probably not think it's ridiculous,

(29:55):
but it's just because it has nothing written on it
yet or anything. It looks like this big bohemia thing.
But I'm like, you know what, and the fact that
really is saving me a lot of trouble is that
it costs two thirds. So it wasn't me big shotting it.
I took a second hand gravestone, probably intended for somebody
who never picked it up, and I just didn't want

(30:16):
mine to be forgotten out this whole then this whole
thing about feeling your did better than your parents or
you achieved more. The first time it really hit me
was I was doing a show at Foxwood's and they
gave me a really nice hotel suite, like a banger
sweet and I walk around and I'm like, well, I

(30:38):
should this is great, and I started taking pictures and
then I'm like, oh, why does this feel weird? I
don't know, And so I was like, oh, cause you know,
Mom and Dad would never have treated themselves to that.
So it's me feeling the survivor's guilt of them growing
up in the depression not treating themselves, but then going wait, wait,

(31:01):
like this is part of the deal. I get to
have this suite because I earned it. They wouldn't default
me for it. They'd get a kick out of the pictures.
But there is a guilt that comes with doing better.
And then the way I assuage the guilt a lot
of the time was just to feel it and then
be generous to them. Like I remember with the Grammys
the first time I was nominated, Oh my god, I

(31:22):
flew everyone out to La everyone stayed at the Ritz Carlton.
It was like where you know, oh, they could pay
for nothing, so you should do that. That's how you
take care of your parents or whatever. So Nick, do
you ever have anything about like, holy shit, I gotta
I mean, you don't have that much to live up
to when it comes to your parents. If you live

(31:44):
past You've already lived past your mother's expiration day. So
the bar for you is what with your dad?

Speaker 4 (31:51):
Yeah, I mean mom died at thirty two and I'm thirty seven,
so we beat that, you win. Dad's gone bankrupt twice.
He lives like an in law apartment of this person's house,
and like he's seventy five, and he works at he's
a janitor in the mornings at a senior center and
works at a fast food place at night. So like
the bar's pretty low for like, for my accomplishments. But

(32:14):
there's little things like like my apartment I live in now,
I absolutely love, like it's a whole. It just like
makes there's times I stand in that apartment I'm like,
I can't believe I live here, Like yeah, I really,
And it's like I don't have any really have nothing
to compare it to everyone around me. Every adult has
blown everything. So the fact that like I even have
a four to oh one k or anything, I'm like.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Oh, so you didn't have high things to live up to.
But do you have any guilt or shame about Oh
is this making my dad feel bad? Or should I
just stay at because some people will keep themselves small
in order to fit in with the family system of
like I'm not rocking the boat. I'm gonna live like
a monk. It's okay if I don't spend anything.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
The only thing I'm afraid of and I do have
these tendencies. I don't have any of that. And my
dad's not like that at all. My dad, because he's
lost so much. He he's like he comes to my apartment,
he's like this is great. Like he's like he has
no anything like that. And I don't have any guilt
at all. I think the if anything, the thing I
do fight is that I do have the tendency to
say like fuck it and spend more money than I should.

(33:18):
And my only fear, like my biggest fear in my twenties,
not as much now, but was like I don't want
to end up like my dad. Right that's when I
was living with him, I was like this sucks, and
like I couldn't afford to get out at the time,
and he had no money, and I was like, where
the fuck does this go? Like how does this end?

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yeah? How does this generational thing?

Speaker 4 (33:34):
Ever, so now there's like enough of a gap where
I'm like, yeah, I have school debt and some credit
card shit and whatever, and I pay for a car
and whatever. But like the fact that I could even
afford things and still be able to live a life
is like huge to me. I could be better, sure,
but there's for me, it's like I get scared of that,
Like I don't want to turn into that.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Well, so basically what is great about this is you
have a very uncomplicated relationship with this. It's just it's
like it doesn't matter if I do better or worse
than him. It's not all muddied up by some weird
guilt that you didn't earn. Because part of me was
always wouldn't I have been a better person if I
could always live small, because then I'd be just like them?

(34:15):
And then because of my fucking Enneagram type eight personality,
which will do Anyagram pretty soon on this podcast, personality
disorder because of that like boss energy I have. I
couldn't have lived at that level. That's that wasn't my
level to have. And my mother knew it. She was
not like suggesting, we'll stay small and just go to

(34:38):
you know, secretary's school, like just be you know, a
different job. My mother would not have wanted me to
live in a small house. She never said live in
a big house. But she was thrilled to death and
got a kick out of it. So I think, like
with this headstone, it brought up like, oh, I'm they're
still getting a kick out of it. They're still going

(34:59):
this is pretty cool. I remember when I played Radio
City and my mom I called her out in the
audience and I was like, look at this cunt when
you're gonna die already. So I get the house. I
always wanted the house. It's small, it's sweet. And she
stood up and she turns around to the whole crowd
and she's looking and waving. She loved being part of
the bigness. So the bigness of this headstone is just

(35:22):
another thing that I think she's part of. But I
had to work through that.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
Yeah, I will say that reminds me my dad. The
only thing he ever liked when I started comedy, right
because obviously not a lot of people make it. And
when I started comedy, he would sit down and he
goes like, are you making money from this thing?

Speaker 5 (35:39):
Or what is this?

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Yeah, I'd be like.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
No, not yet, and now I do, but like obviously
not enough to live on. And you know, he would say.
He would just be like, because you know, just like
have fun with it. You don't have to become this
big person and blah blah blah. And old me would
have taken it as like, what the fuck my dad
doesn't believe in me? Right, But like when your dad's
in his fast food uniform with the advisor and I'm like,

(36:03):
I'm making a joke, but I'm not, And he has
the headset on for the drive through and he's seventy five,
and he's like he just he wants me to be careful.
He doesn't want me to turn into that. It's not
coming from a place of like I don't think you're
good or you shouldn't do this. It's not. He's just like,
just you know, you got a good job.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
You got a good job, don't don't.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
But and I was like, nothing's happened like we're not
leaving words, but.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
I think too, like a lot of it's them stuff
they would warn themselves about, Like he would be like
a drum he's a drummer. So yeah, and also he
actually had some wisdom in knowing you can have fulfillment
from a small comedy life or a small musical life
like he did. It really isn't that much better when
you're at the top. So what's cool is that's actually

(36:47):
a pretty sound message.

Speaker 6 (36:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:49):
No, he's the older I get, the more I'm like, oh,
he actually makes more sense. And like my dad probably
had similar to you. Obviously have success like you. But
his parents were straight out of the depression and they
were real tight on money and wouldn't buy him certain
clothes and he said fuck it, and he got like
two jobs and he was big on clothes and the
look and this band and blah blah blah. But that

(37:09):
stuck with him through life, and he overspent a certain
lifestyle because he hated how he grew up. Yep, Like
he hated that his mother and his father were so
tight and cheap, and he was like, I'm not going
to fucking be that, and he paid the price for it,
and he didn't have any control over anything, but I could.
It was like a rebellion.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Right.

Speaker 4 (37:27):
The more I realized it, I'm like, oh, he just
wanted to not be like them, but he could have
at least like maybe had a safety that well.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
What it is basically is looking at the qualities that
they had that are worth pulling forward and leaving the
rest behind, you know. So with my mother, it's just like,
I like that badass personality and the fact that she
was a good saver, and but she would have never
been like he do you think you are? You too
big for your bridges? She wanted us to be too

(37:54):
big for our britches. She wanted us to accomplish stuff
without saying it. We could just get that vibe. So
I'm like, I can't be ashamed of the tombstone and
the fact that it is monstrously big, and also like,
I am a celebrity, as you know, but I'm gonna
get it engraved with my real last name on it,

(38:17):
so it's the real person's there, you know what I mean?
Maybe I should also be a the best, but other
than that, the real stars are on the right. If

(38:38):
you have a question for us, because season two is
gonna fit in to be a banger. As they say, y'all,
season to you back to buy a buy Aye y'all,
Why keep the mic on if you say nothing interesting?

(38:59):
Go ahead, hurry up. I read.

Speaker 5 (39:06):
And the only response I got.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
You were correct? Okay, Nick, No, you're right, we were wrong. Okay,
go ahead.

Speaker 5 (39:14):
No.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
I think your words were fantastic. And I think that
is a very astute and knowledgeable thing and a nice
chance you took just now correcting us and bringing to
attention what you need. I think that is terrific. I
think it shows a lot of growth and balls and guts,
and I say to you, thank you for trusting us

(39:39):
with that. Now. The text was great. I would love
to see the whole thing if you would at some point.
But I'm very proud of you. But don't say y'all anymore.
I'm not no Mike off. Pretend you're myself, because I
will not hear y'all out of your fucking mouth Everget no,
stop it, you have control. Stop with the I can't

(40:00):
help it. We had my conversation and broke me. We
had a y'all conversation and broke me. It's not gonna
break you to stop saying y'all shut the fuck up
neck first letter, honestly good jobs and no, no, no,
no exaggeration. I'm very proud of you, Okay, Nick. The
person I'm less proud of is you, So please give
us a letter.

Speaker 4 (40:18):
Dear Lisa, shut up, Celia, don't jump on the band.
Kill you, all right, Dear Lisa. My father and my
grandfather were both lawyers who went to Yale. My older
brother followed in their footsteps, but not me. I fucked
around in school, I.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Got into trouble with drugs.

Speaker 4 (40:35):
I ended up graduating from Central Connecticut State University.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
Go Blue Devils, bitch.

Speaker 4 (40:42):
And now I'm a hairstylist. Oh my mom was a hairstylist.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
But you know, no shade to hairstylists. We would be
nowhere without them, at least me and Celia.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
You don't need shiites all right. Most days I like
what I do, but when I get together with my family,
I always feel like such a loser. I go to therapy,
but I still have some shame by my profession. Do
you think shame will always be there? And if not,
how do I shake it? Thanks Ron, from.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
God, there's so much for Ron to be ashamed of
you're a male hair dresser. I mean, first of all,
the gay shame alone. Yeah, second the living in the
an Sonia, Connecticut shame but honeside joke. Neither one of
those is shameful. Here's what I like about Ron. He's
living his truth, which is a fag hairstylist. And you know,

(41:33):
I know a fag hairstylist is one of my favorite people,
my very good friend Anthony's husband David Thriving business. This
is what people don't understand about hairstylists. They have a
very difficult skill that none of us in this studio
could do. They are professionals. They get to be creative
and ps. They own businesses a lot of the time,

(41:55):
so basically, you are your own boss. You can make
the coffee in the morning, people out of the shop
until you want them to come the fuck in. So Ron,
I'm proud of him for doing his thing. The problem
is he says he has shame about it. So somewhere
along the lines he got the message, which obviously, with
the father and grandfather being Yale educated lawyers, you're gonna

(42:18):
get somehow from even if it wasn't your parents, from
the culture at large that you should be doing more.
You should have a better education. You should because you
had the advantages. I also think he has shame about
effing up his college because he says he fucked around

(42:41):
in school, got in trouble with drugs. You have to
work on shaking loose that shame because guess what, we
all fucked around at some point in our lives and
screwed up. He's still alive. If you had really fucked
up with drugs, he wouldn't be alive right now. So
the fact is, if he goes to some kind of

(43:02):
therapy figures out that there was nothing wrong with experimenting drugs,
he's fine. He has enough skill and talent to make
a great living and it's something that's a noble profession.
Then maybe he could work on that internalized shame and
shake it. Because to show up at a family thing
and feel that I don't envy that for him none
at all.

Speaker 4 (43:21):
Luckily, my family's are retarded.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
I don't think we're allowed to say that word anymore.
Care shut up. You reclaimed it because you are one.
That's exactly I could say it. But I mean, it
is sad when somebody has like a job that anyone
else would I actually would rather listen to him talk
about his clients and about hair styling, then lawyer talking
about the dumb shit they do at Yale.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
You know yeah, I think you just you just need
to like it. Stop caring what people think. Man, I
like he said, he feels like he's a loser.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
Yeah, but that's that's that's shame, loser comes from. Shame
actually is different from guilt. Guilt, as we know, is
if you did something wrong. So see how when Celia
read the text and I didn't address anything other than
the y'all, I did something wrong. So instead of me
feeling guilty about it, I would have felt guilty if
I went home and remembered it. We corrected it. So, yes,

(44:16):
I did something wrong. I apologize and corrected it. Shame
is different from guilt because it tells you it's so
deeply entrenched from whatever society's telling you, or your folks
or your ancestry that you are wrong, not that you
did something wrong, that you are wrong. You're broken. So
poor Ron homosexual hairdresser who earns his own shop on drugs,

(44:39):
still I'm imagining it feels there's something broken about him
and that's worth a deep dive, because boy, once you
could shed that, Like, I know I do things wrong
all the time, but I know I'm not broken. And
that's a sad way to go through life.

Speaker 4 (44:55):
Yeah, like I said, it's just I think it's just
all in his head. Like I guarantee his Fai family
doesn't think that way or feel that way at all.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
But it's not the point because again, cut hips mic off. No, no, no,
they don't know for the moment, maybe they do. The
whole thing is to be able to withstand the is
ane and dealing with you alive and you just have
no shame about it once you've unearthed and worked on
the shame you and it is trauma therapy. That would
be trauma therapy, that'd be deep somatic stuff. You're not

(45:25):
gonna talk your way out of this one. This isn't
talking to a therapist. This is really feeling it and
getting it in your body that there's nothing wrong with
you. You're not broken as a person. Once you do that,
somebody could say your job looks like it sucks, and
you could be like, that's fine. You just want everything
to sort of be like it's fine, Like I should
be able to sell six tickets to some live taping

(45:49):
or whatever and be like it's it's fine. Those six
people are the ones who needed to show up, right,
because that's without shame. But you have to work on that,
so Ron, I wish you luck girl, have more shame
about the gay stuff though. Yeah, that's a real brokenness, okay.
Next one, speaking at homoes.

Speaker 4 (46:06):
Speaking of homos. Dear Lisa, my mom is an extremely
successful novelist.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Yeah, I know grammar, I know diction. I know y'all's diction,
know y'all dition, y'all.

Speaker 4 (46:20):
Dicky, my mom's extremely saysible novelist. And I am also
a writer, but have yet to publish my first book.
Sometimes I feel like I should quit, since I'll never
be as good.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
As she is.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
Jesus Christ, do you think I should give myself a
deadline to publish and if it doesn't happen, move on
to something else. I'm thirty two and feel completely lost.
Thanks Whitney from Berkeley, California.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
I mean, the fact is honestly not but suicide. Now
here's the thing that is very tough, like when you
pick a profession that a parent has excelled in, Like
I always felt sorry for Meryl Streeps to because you're
talking about the greatest actress people. Some say whoever has

(47:05):
ever lived, she can do it all. And she's got
those three daughters. Oh look at this, the one sticks.
There's a bunch. They're very successful by any standard. They're
not by a Meryl Streep standard, because no one ever
will be. But that one ends up on Gilded Age.
She plays the Bamlax Marion, who are supposed to think
is hotter than she is. I'm not buying it. It

(47:26):
doesn't matter. I will say that is a very tough
thing to have to live up to mom or dad
and what they did. So this person has to divorce
themselves from like really caring what mom, what they're what
they're putting on it, and ask herself, do I actually

(47:48):
like to write? Because writing is one of those things
that it is up to No, it's up to the
stars if you're gonna make it or not. Like it
is such a crapshoot with every kind of publishing hutting
down and self publishing and who knows what's gonna go
viral where you go. I have literally no control if
I never made it, if I never made it, to

(48:11):
my mother's extent, or even to a small extent, would
I love it enough to do it? If the answer
is no, just don't do it. But if you love it,
that's I know it sounds woo woo, but I'm sorry.
The work is the reward. If you are sitting down
every day and you're like, oh my god, this is
so much fun, why would you even care if you're

(48:31):
a success, that's just an external validation that you really
don't need. I more would applaud a writer who's stuck
with it despite lack of material success. I was like,
oh my god, it just makes me happy. When I
talk to people who are like, I'm a writer and
I'm like, oh, what do you write? And they go, oh,
I do, like every day I have this thing I
do And I'm like, oh my god, I love that
you love to sit there and do that. I have

(48:53):
a friend who wrote a fucking mini series Get This.
I think it's like a limited series for herself because
she was in a writing class. She has meetings with
producers and things set up. But she's like, I just
loved sitting every day and writing. I'm like, what's that? Like? Like,
how cool? Is that? So? She has to take out
the moms better than me. Because also, if we quit

(49:17):
everything because someone's better than us, none of us would
be doing anything. We would all be laying in bed.
There's a billion better and more successful comics than me.
I mean five times the amount for Nick, because what's
he got to offer? Celia could say, oh, so and
so is a better producer. Why don't I just quit?
We wouldn't be doing anything. Actively. You just pursue excellence

(49:40):
in your mind. So it might be not excellent by
mom's standards, but by yours, and you just keep doing it. Celia,
does this make sense to you? And please just be
nick and yell? Fuck yeah it does. No, it doesn't
make sense to you.

Speaker 5 (49:55):
Fuck yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Do you ever compare yourself like that to where you go, Well,
I'm not the best in the world. Maybe I should
just quit.

Speaker 5 (50:02):
I don't think I should quit.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
What do you think you should do?

Speaker 5 (50:05):
Be better?

Speaker 2 (50:05):
Okay? So she just needs to keep working on her writing.
If she indeed loves it, it makes you be better.
I remember years ago they used to say Sinbad, Remember
that comic Sinbad. When he was coming up, he had
a poster of Eddie Murphy on his bedroom wall, and
he'd look at it every day and he'd say, catching
up on you, motherfucker. So for him it was motivating

(50:28):
if it wasn't debilitating. So you can shift to where
that is a tool. But if you don't love the thing,
you're not gonna want to do it anyway, even if
you have Mom's success or Eddie Murphy's success. Does that
make sense?

Speaker 5 (50:43):
It does?

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Hell yeah, he said, Oh Jesus Christ, I think I
make total sense. Nick. Could we have one last letter
and make it the fifth one? I like number five best.
It's on the next patge darre Lathom.

Speaker 4 (50:57):
Okay, dear Lisa. Two brothers work for my father and
the family business, a textile company.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
Three letters right there, j W. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (51:09):
My dad tried to get me to do the same thing.
But I can never sit in an office all day,
correct Now. I'm a personal a flexible schedule.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
Of love, life, freedom loser.

Speaker 4 (51:21):
I think my brothers are resentful. I paved my own
path and I'm not depending on our father like they are.
Makes sense. That's for my dad.

Speaker 7 (51:28):
He barely talks to me anymore.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
Boy.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
It's sad to me that he's written me off just
because I didn't conform or maybe thinks I rejected his work.
He's a cold businessman, so discussing with the discussing this
with him is not realistic. What do you think I
should do in Oakland?

Speaker 2 (51:43):
You, Randy, should take somebody that free time between training, saysions.

Speaker 7 (51:49):
Did jerk off on your fatish pictures?

Speaker 4 (51:52):
Yeahtiles?

Speaker 2 (51:56):
Yeah, there's a techtile for ye.

Speaker 7 (52:00):
How that feeling, y'all? Here's here's what I have to say.
These Jews are tough.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
I have to say, Randy, you got it. Get your
head around. You built the life you want. You are
volunteering for this suffering because you're torturing yourself. You don't
know if your dad's bad because he barely talks to
you anymore.

Speaker 7 (52:29):
You say, maybe he thinks I were agistered in his work.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Well, how about you like just guess a billion things
about your dad, refuse to talk about him, and then
just suffer.

Speaker 7 (52:37):
You can do that.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
Keep doing that, Randy, and then you're gonna be mad
and your clients and you're gonna drop a weight on
their fucking foot and you're gonna end up with a
broken back and they're gonna be a dentist to not
be able to operate on their their their their clients,
and then.

Speaker 7 (52:52):
You are to blame for Celia.

Speaker 4 (52:53):
Shit.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
If you don't.

Speaker 8 (52:55):
Understand any of that, just go back and listen to
the previously you.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Let's say to yourself, let me either talk to my
dad or find some peace around my decision.

Speaker 7 (53:06):
There's something in him that feels worthless in a.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Way because he didn't do this path, because you can't.
Everybody isn't built for the nine to five. Everybody isn't
built for the structure of something like that. There's a
safety in it. Sure, that's admirable. Wasn't your path, dude,
But try to talk.

Speaker 7 (53:27):
I don't like this.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
He's a cold, business like man, so discussing with him
is not realistic. But at least you can talk about
it to a shrink. Get it out there. There's this
new therapy called wait, let me get it right, systemic
constellation therapy, which is where you actually talk to these people.

Speaker 7 (53:48):
There's group therapy.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Someone will play the dad, someone plays mom, someone plays ancestors,
et cetera. Super powerful and you can actually, even if
someone's dead, converse with them and come to some realization.
It's not magic. It takes a bunch of sessions. But
it's fairly quick. It's not like years and years, and
you can.

Speaker 7 (54:07):
At least find peace within you.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
If you think dad isn't going to give you any peace,
it's not his job to do it.

Speaker 8 (54:13):
This is your struggle, and you'll be a better person
if you learn through some decent therapy.

Speaker 7 (54:19):
That makes sense, Nick, you're staring at me with like
not going.

Speaker 4 (54:25):
No, I thought more was coming. Hell, yeah, no, I
was just kidding. Yeah, I mean, listen, I'm a fat
personal trainer. Think about that.

Speaker 7 (54:34):
Shame you gotta shame around that.

Speaker 4 (54:38):
I don't actually, but yeah, poor Randy, Yeah, dude, like
she said, fucking figure it out, bitch, talk to your dad.

Speaker 7 (54:47):
Therapy shut him off?

Speaker 5 (54:50):
Right?

Speaker 2 (54:51):
Nothing right, Celia, nothing, He had not add to the thought.

Speaker 7 (54:57):
I wasn't ready to start talking yet. Yeah, we had
to talk on the way.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Hearing me and this idiots every single time we drive
to the city, he goes so mad.

Speaker 7 (55:07):
Well every time, shut it up. I'll fucking right will
charge me every time. So to listen, what's.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Your favorite what's your favorite neighborhood?

Speaker 7 (55:23):
You lived in?

Speaker 2 (55:24):
What?

Speaker 7 (55:25):
But how many times I've told him?

Speaker 2 (55:28):
Fifteen? Upper West Side? So I said, you said upper easy, Laura.
So you don't listen, you know, I'll tell you exactly
what does he checks out? My mother used to do
this too. I got used to it, so I can
read it and I cannot get mad at it. I'm
joking about now, but it's like I get it.

Speaker 6 (55:45):
Literally.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
My mother was always onto the next question before she
listened to that answer. So it's just they're uncomfortable as humans.
They're obviously very not well evolved. Yeah, so that's what
this letter where I was talking. I was talking about
this new fucking therapy that he should probably be and
to be honest, then he had a figure it's too

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close to the bony has to check out, and he
just sat there staring.

Speaker 7 (56:11):
Then he pretended that it was because.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
Oh, she's not done talking yet, and then all of
a sudden comes out with his fuck yet.

Speaker 7 (56:18):
So what's the take to where you're just gonna be
nick and you're just gonna do the fuck yet? Don't
dishonor No? I thought you had more to say.

Speaker 4 (56:28):
Wait, can I ask a question about this therapy?

Speaker 7 (56:32):
You can use it?

Speaker 3 (56:33):
No?

Speaker 7 (56:33):
No, no, go ahead? Did it with me? So what
do you so?

Speaker 4 (56:37):
So you're pretending to talk to people in your family.

Speaker 7 (56:40):
Is that what's happening.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
It's literally like if you're seeing what comes up around
this issue with them, so you it could be as
literal as starting with dad.

Speaker 8 (56:50):
I really feel like blah.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
Blah blahem too like ancestors and how it's a lot
of this is intergenerational trauma. A lot of it is
that the grandfather, they're expected that, and then the great grandfather,
and so you have to really kind of get where
everyone's on your team in that room.

Speaker 7 (57:08):
And when Brad and I did it about.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
An issue I had, I just felt like by the time,
I mean, it sounds magical, but I don't care because
I know what works. Whatever was bothering me for that session,
that was leading up to that session and been bothering
me for years and it still exists, but the charge
is gone.

Speaker 8 (57:27):
I no longer have shame about it. I no longer
have guilt about it. I no longer have like, oh,
I'm a loser.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
So a lot of this loser stuff comes from what
the other generations felt about themselves, and then we take
it on.

Speaker 7 (57:39):
So it's really powerful. People should look it up.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
Won't because the only one who seems to do what
I say is Celia, and that is why she's my favorite. Yoah,
I don't.

Speaker 7 (57:53):
Care, dude, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (57:56):
Why would you say the therapy and conversing with different
family members.

Speaker 7 (57:59):
I thought it was.

Speaker 4 (58:00):
Like people were there like actor like people pretending.

Speaker 7 (58:05):
The other people are there.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
Group there. Yes, it's not like it's jokes, because he
said I don't do it in groups.

Speaker 7 (58:17):
I do it solo.

Speaker 8 (58:18):
Would you be willing to do that just to see
if it worked at all?

Speaker 7 (58:21):
Yes, but people are pretending to be They don't act like.

Speaker 8 (58:25):
I know, but I think it's just like pretend I'm
your mom. How would you speak to me?

Speaker 7 (58:30):
What?

Speaker 2 (58:31):
What?

Speaker 8 (58:31):
What do you What do you need to tell me
that's coming up for you right now?

Speaker 7 (58:34):
What do you remember?

Speaker 5 (58:35):
And?

Speaker 7 (58:35):
Boy? Did it's freaking I know it sounds who whoop, dude,
it is powerful. It freaks me out.

Speaker 4 (58:40):
But I should.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
You should probably do a lot of things, and none
of them are things you're gonna do.

Speaker 7 (58:45):
The only one who seems to listen is Celia, and
that is why on this.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
First episode of season two, she gets the applause break
that she's.

Speaker 8 (58:55):
Never gotten before. Looking at so does that make you happy?

Speaker 5 (59:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (59:05):
Cute?

Speaker 7 (59:06):
Yeah, that means expresses. It's like diction.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
That's my this's great to be back.

Speaker 7 (59:16):
Are you happy we're back with teasing two.

Speaker 4 (59:20):
In the studio.

Speaker 7 (59:23):
Her mother's count. It's weird when you're walk into this
particular studio.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
Like Elvis is the one we usually recorded. It says
Star on it versus, but I think it's.

Speaker 4 (59:36):
More my like my mother donated before she died, to
the studio. She donated her cont.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
Wrapping up for a snack. Where can people find us?
What do you need to say?

Speaker 7 (59:45):
What's our Let's see if you remember from last year
what you're supposed to say. Hey, guys, you're doing great.

Speaker 4 (59:54):
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uh or Celia, she becomes more involved. You can email
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Speaker 7 (01:00:16):
Oh please give that you know fu. Oh you're so stupid,
you know what? You forgot to say that? Thanks give them?
Thanks for listening. Sincerely, thanks for listening.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
We love you. We'll see you next week.