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May 27, 2024 37 mins

Kate and Oliver open up about their fights, their vulnerabilities, and even therapy sessions that didn't help when they were butting heads.

Plus, they talk about the one thing that is taking over their personal lives and what they want to do about it!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):

Speaker 2 (00:05):
I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
We wanted to do something that highlighted our.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Relationship and what it's like to be siblings.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
We are a sibling railvalry.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
No, no, sibling. You don't do that with your mouth.

Speaker 3 (00:30):

Speaker 2 (00:33):
That's good.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
All are very excited.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
This is a solo episode. Yeah, I think it's servers
solo episode, right.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
I think so.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
I don't think we've done one.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
I think we're kind of.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Overdue for this. We are. There's a lot to chat about.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Well, there's you know, you you popped this thing. I
mean before we you know, we just finished with an
episode with somebody, and then before we were doing the episode,
you were like, I started reading that Alan Carr. I
thought you were going to see the smoking thing before
Alan Carr.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Did the smoking.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Yes, but I guess he did a drinking book.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Well, he's done a few how to stop books, you know,
and there were two of them in the drinking space,
which was how to quit drinking, and then there's how
to sort of moderate drinking.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
And I'm assuming you want to moderate Yeah, okay, yeah,
is it because when you start it's like you drink
too much.

Speaker 3 (01:36):

Speaker 2 (01:36):
I just think.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
I when I do drink, I maybe drink too much
and I don't feel good.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
And then, right, well.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
You've always had that, yeah, since you were young. You
know you you if you drink, you don't, you usually
don't feel right. It's almost like you might have a
little bit of an allergy.

Speaker 2 (01:56):

Speaker 3 (01:57):
But I just know that when I work out and
I wake up and I feel good and I don't drink,
I feel great.

Speaker 2 (02:03):

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yeah, well alcohol is not great for you.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
I don't know if you know this.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
I mean it's alcohol and moderation obviously you know, yes,
but like if you're drinking.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
No, no daily, right, I know. Sometimes great.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
I get into a habitual pattern, right you gets or six,
I sit down in my little chair and I put
my computer on my lap, and I like have a cocktail.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
And then I look up the fishing reports and I'm like, like,
I love in my life right now.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, And then I wake up in the morning.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
I just feel like I don't need to cut it
and just cut it off.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
I think, actually, I think, yeah, be.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
More moderate, right, not stop, because you're not really like
an alcoholic. I'm just I just don't want to drink
as much.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
I have a friend who recently just decided to stop drinking.
He just was like, I've done a lot of drinking
in my day, Like I'm just going to stop for
a bit and see I feel. And like it went
from like two weeks to a month to like three months.
And I was like, are you sober?

Speaker 2 (03:12):
And He's like, no, I.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Just now I'm in this. Like it's almost like I'm
competitive with myself, Like if I have a drink, then like.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
It starts over it right. Yeah, but he was.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Saying that he feels the best you felt in years.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
That is true, Yeah, because I'll go, you know, ten
days or whatever days, it's incredible how great you feel.
But then there's the flip side of it, like I
missed that like feeling of sit down a cocktail.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
I know, But why can't you do both your in
lives though I'm Alan Carr. Yeah, I think Alan Carr
is one thing, but it's also just about this is
one of the things that I always get asks all
the time. It's like, how do you balance your life?
How do you balance you know, your career and kids?
How do you balance like your career and kids and

working out and food and the thing is like this
lifestyle concept, like the concept of you know, living a
certain lifestyle really exists best when things are in moderation.
The second you start stressing over anything is is where

things start to become and balanced. I think this is
just my own dumb theory. So you can you can
take it might be good, it might be not, but
you know, so for me, it's like, you know, is
it about, Okay, the super regimented you need to be
like very structured and regimented. I would want to go

deeper and to try to understand.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
What is in their life.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
It's caused them to have to have so much structure
in order to live healthy versus people that can you know,
have a very like normal routine and sit in it
and have ease. And you know, I think there's like
I think there's a way that we that we can

balance our lives where we're not kind of trying to
overthink things. Yes, and then then when you get into
the sort of like excessive, like heatedistic approach of like
I need everything, like I need.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Pure assumption of all vices.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yeah, that's also just it's an imbalance.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, so what is that?

Speaker 1 (05:38):
How do we create balance without having to feel the
stress of like, oh I'm not doing it right or
you know, and I think.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
That is that's the sweet spot.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yes, right, I agree, and it's hard. Well, everyone's a
little bit different. Some people need more structure. I think
for me, structure is better when I can ructure out
my day and say I'm gonna do this, this, this,
I got a podcast, I'm going to meditate it. This time,
I'm going to ride my journal here, I'm gonna sit
down and write for an hour and then once that
time is up, if I keep going, great, If not,

that I got the kids and there's an accomplishment. You know,
idle time is no good. We're just sitting around, you know.
I need structure. That's better for me. And it's just
about it's going back to the drinking. It's having like
one or two drinks, you know what I mean, and
now having like ten.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Oh well maybe you are.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
An alcol No, I mean not ten. But like you know,
you get in boring and they're like, I.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Was thinking about this the other day and now I know,
like I posted this like stupid thing, right, and I
was like dancing and I literally was dancing in my
in my in my gym too. I was putting on
all my old favorite songs. I posted it like not
thinking about what it was, right, it was just like fine,

I thought it was.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
I think it's funny, it's like us, it's.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
And I realized that things like that get the most attention,
the most likes. And then like the random people who
are like that don't they don't understand it at all,
the sense.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Of humor or what it is.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
They just they don't get like having fun. Everyone has
an opinion, everybody has something to say, you know, you know,
comparing you to other people, and you realize like, oh,
this is just people are just bored. And the bottom
line is is that it's sad because we really, we

really should be celebrating people's like openness and and and
you know, we should just be celebrating each other.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Yeah, and then there's but there's so many there's three
hundred and thirty million people in America and then more
in the world obviously, and so you're going to get
cross sections of all kinds of people who are going
to look at that or look at some of the
things that I say and be like, hey, no, he's
just speaking him truth.

Speaker 2 (08:20):

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Wait, the fact that it matters is problematic, meaning like
there's a lot of things in the world that really
matter for us to be focusing on, right, for one
to really be honing in on, And when anyone's focus
becomes something that ridiculous, it's kind of problematic because it's like,

you know, that's what grabs the interest of somebody, and
if that's really what's grabbing somebody's interests, like.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Our world is really i you know, and.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
And and and so it kind of highlights it kind
of highlights this sort of microscope that everyone thinks they're under.
They forget like nobody's under a microscope.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Just like with your.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Life, just have fun, say what you want to say.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
If you're if you.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Know in your life that you are living a good
you're a good person. If you're living a healthy life,
if you're a good person, if your goal is to
make people feel good happy, if you're if you're raising
your children the best you know how, putting your all
into it, if you're working as hard as you possibly can,

then you're then you're winning.

Speaker 2 (09:50):

Speaker 1 (09:51):
It is a matter what anyone chooses to see or
how they choose to see it. What matters is that
that is that is that is absolute best thing you
can do. And like even kids, the pressure that kids
are feeling with social media and they're like all of

this stuff, we have created a disaster of people like
only seeing themselves through these other lenses when really they
should feel the freedom of just seeing it through their
own lenses and not worrying about what other people think.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Because social media is interesting, sort of creating clones, Like
I see a thousand of Wilders.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Walking down the street. That's just now.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
I think it's just it's it's just spread, you know,
just because it's all the trends, it's all the stuff.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
I mean, Rianna knows way more music, current music than
I do. Songs.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Come on, she's singing and what is this? Yeah, it's
just in the world YouTube reels.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Or whatever the hell is nowadays, you know.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yeah, I think the biggest thing for our wellness is
to shut these things off. I think that the the
one thing we're missing in the home for a lot
of families is that five o'clock dinner time. Yeah, that
where where families gather, where you have to eat, you

have to talk about you're kind of forced to talk
about the day. You're forced to gather out of sustenance,
but that substance at the family unit. No matter what
your family unit looks like, it doesn't matter if it's
some antiquated concept of family unit has to be.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Hasard, wife, kids, it could be whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
That unit, that time is where you shut down and
you connect.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
And like, I think that that.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Is it is like like when people talk about wellness,
like family dinner, even if it's like with your friends
on college, Like hey guys, every day Thursday, we gather
at this person's dorm room and we sit with our
you know, ramen, and we're gonna phone phones go away,

Like that's the thing that's missing. And I read this
great article I think is in the Atlantic or something
about the dumb phone that they're they're like on the rise.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
And it's the flip phone.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
That they're on the rise because people are putting their
smartphones away because it's too distracting to their life. And
people who are getting on the dumb phones, the flip phones,
the ones that don't have basically a computer to it,
are finding that they're significantly happier, way less anxious.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
So basically they use it for phone calls, like not
even text like.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Let's say you're going out with your family to dinner,
you take your dumb phone. Yeah, and the only way
someone can read it's a text, like only you're really like,
I mean.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
You can use it however you want. You got business
on there.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
Too, but you're not going to be doing the like
emails and ship when you're on your dumphone, right, someone
has to call you to be like, hey, man, sorry
to disturb your dinner, but you really got to call
so and so because they're waiting for your call.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
And so when you're sitting there with your family instead
of talking to instead of going like, oh wait, let
me look and hey, let's look on our phone to
see like what's going on over here, you're actually forced
to just completely be present.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
With your family. I like the dumb phone.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
I know.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
I think that they should only allow those in school.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Yeah. Is there a market for the dumphone.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yes, it's it's like booming, like the dumb phone is
becoming a cool thing. I'm going to give my kids
the dumb phone. I'm taking their phones away from them
for school fun to see what I think we should
do that for for the new for back to school.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah, and see what happens.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
The first month of school. We're going to give all
of the Hudson kids the dumb phone and they can
leave their iPhone home. When they get home, they can
get back on their iPhone.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
I like it, but the phone to me is almost
a sense of anxiety these days, where you're looking at
you're like, oh my god, like it's so nice when
it's not near you.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Oh yeah, email emails are.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Are That's why I like my computer better. Well that's what.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
I've only started looking at. I've done this thing now.
I think it's different for people who work in different future. Okay,
so so if I, like, if I was day to
day on any of my businesses, I wouldn't be able.
Then nobody cannot look at their emails and run a business,
Like it's just that's just insane, right. But as a

creative person who has to like learn lines beyond set,
be present, create characters or when I'm writing like music
or whatever I have to, I have to that has
to go away. So I've kind of had to create
days that are my business days. That's what I've been
doing lately. I change it up all the time to

see what works. Lately, I'm like, Monday is my office day,
and I do all my emails and I do all
my stuff and then I basically let everybody know that
I will not be looking at my email like Friday.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Yeah, I'm also working. Now. I hate them so much.
I know you're working.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
You got to learn lines, You got to you know,
you can shut it down easier, better excuses.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
God, it's hard to shut it down. Will you.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Promise me that you will promise? Yeah, you have promise.
Let's just let's just let's make this pact that even
if it last a week for the kids, that we
are going to get them from school.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
So from like eight to three.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
In September, we're going to have like a little get
back to school gift with them. We're gonna get them
all flip no keys that are quite different now, they're
like newer and other things, and we're going to be like,
you guys are going to start a trend in school
and you're going to be the cool kids or the
flip phones. So you're going to have a dumb phone

from eight to three, and then you can have your
iPhone when you come home.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Your iPhone is left at home when you go to
school I like it, I'll do it. Okay, I'll do it.
I'll do it, and.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Then we can talk about it around around October next
this year.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
But do we have to have dumb phone?

Speaker 1 (16:50):
I'm getting a dumb phone because I want to go
to dinner with my family and not have my cell phone.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Right, not have my smartphone. Yeah, I want to.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
I want to be in Greece with you guys with
the dumb phone.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
Yeah, got the The pictures might be the pictures and
it might be nice to go to sit out and look.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
At the news. No it's not.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
You know what, Well, let's let's try. Let's try to
make it cool for the kids and get no Kia
flip phones.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
By the way, those were cool back.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
And then next thing, you know, and Christmas time, we're gonna.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
Get them pagers going back and back and back.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
By the way, the pay the pager. The pager would
be really cool if they all there's no way. Yeah,
like doctors, of course, But pager is a great idea
because you can actually get to your kids in class.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Mm hmm. You can like text them one four three, Yeah,
I'm gonna look into the pager. You can text them
on the phones they.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Can't bring their phones in the class. The page the
wild they look down and see a number seven. Kill
you for like ling our kids in class?

Speaker 2 (18:15):
We like you know, it's like three zero zero eight.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
We get called into the station.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
We're just having so much fun.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Okay, I like this conversation. I feel like I feel
like I overtook it. I feel like I talked the
whole time.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
That's good, it's good. You need it.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
I'm down to uh do the dumb phone without a doubt.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
And then as.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
Far as my alcoholism go, this like Alan Carr does
the smoking thing. You read the book and then when
you're done with it, you sort of just drink when
when you're reading the book, and then when you're done
with it it you know then you have moderated your
drinking or you have a better idea of why you should. Okay,

the thing is I can stop drinking, meaning I like it.
But if I say I'm not going to drink for
seven days, it's not a hard thing to stop drinking
for seven days. It's it's more licensed, more volume, Like
a couple of glasses of wine, don't drink the whole bottle.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Right, I know, I get going.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
I have like two more glasses and families of like,
let's let's go lat thing and nang and nang.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
But well we're together. That's kind of what happened.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
No, I know, but I know what you're saying, Like
you wish you just have like two glasses or glass that.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Have that's an alf of wine. You smoke a little
and then you're good.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Yeah, okay, well let's do Okay, let's see what happens. Yeah,
so we asked some of our listeners to ask questions

and now we're going.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
To answer them.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Yeah, next time you had a great idea, I want
to get their audio recording.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yeah, which is fun. So we get really be fun
to do live. But that might be a little nuts.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Oh, I would love that. We like sake zones. It's
like General Ester from Albert of Texas there with Oliver
that's like Ryan Seacrest. Isn't Ryan Seacrest.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
Yeah, I mean he's got a whole setup, you know.
But it would be fun to do live that, It
would be hysterical. I think we should do that.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
We should get totally off the.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
We should do that. Okay, this is from Susie. Uh.
Susie's question is how long have you gone without talking
to each other because of a disagreement? Great question, Uh,
not long. But there was a moment where I was like,
I was not.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
Having it with my brothers me too. What yeah, when
I don't want to say you're talking about I was
just not having it with you at some point when
I don't know, a few years ago, where was I
in England?

Speaker 1 (21:15):

Speaker 3 (21:16):
No, you we were together. It was it was it
was a deal situation.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Oh yeah, I was not having you.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
And then similarly, it seems that it was just everything
yours was work related. In mind was work related right
because you said brother Yeah right, yeah, so it's sort
of a work related thing, both of them both separate,
but it worked, seemed to work.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Out all right. How you feel it still? God, Susie,
why did you have to bring this up?

Speaker 3 (21:50):

Speaker 1 (21:50):
No, no, honestly fine. But but I I think to
answer Susie's question, and being the only girl is probably
more challenging with disagreements, especially if it's family related.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
That never had a disagreement where we have not spoken
to each other, That is a more of an emotional
personal thing.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
To be honest, I think that as communicative as we are,
we're not that communicative. Ill.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
We had a therapy session, we.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Did yes, and I got nothing out. I feel like
it's harder for you to confront things.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
You're not exactly what.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
You don't like talking about stuff I don't talking you
don't like talking it out.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
I can go off the rails. I know.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
Yeah, And it's like instead of just like actively listening
and then you know what, you know what we should do?
You know we should do it should be really good.
Is doctor John Gotman for like love relationships. They also
do it for family. Have this active listening tool, which
is you write everything that you can't say anything. Well,

that's how I communicate best, and so well, no, you
have to know that's not that's not a mouse.

Speaker 3 (23:21):

Speaker 1 (23:21):
You you basically if I'm like, okay, this is how
I feel when you did this, and you have to
write every word out of what I'm saying to you
and you can't say anything, you then have to repeat,
you have to read it, read it out. You know
when this happened, you felt like this, and then you
validate as you go along. So if I say, you know,

when that happened, I felt so alone, then you have
to go I had totally I really understand why you feel.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Alone, even if I don't.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
No, no, if you don't, then you don't validate it,
you know, but you don't. You don't to tell someone
how they're supposed to feel that they shouldn't feel that way, right,
And usually.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
That doesn't happen. But I understand that concept for sure.
But aren't people's feelings sometimes irrational? Even though you might
feel that way or I might feel that way.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
You respect that that it's that person's feelings. But what
if those feelings.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
Are both like, well, dude, I mean the respect that
you feel that way, but you're not right.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Well, that wouldn't work.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
I'm just saying that that's probably that's how you think.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
That's not what you would say.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
No, it's more like it's more like okay. So that's
the first part of the of the tool, and then
after that there's a series of questions, and part of
that is is there anything about this that triggers anything
from your childhood or that is there a reason why
you're more you know, sensitive to these things or something

I should know about? And you would go, yeah, because
like growing up when you know, I don't know this
happened with that, this person in my life. It made
me feel like this, and so I'm very sensitive to that.
So instead of it being like, oh, your feelings are irrational,
you kind of get to know the.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Person and you do this your family.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
You can do it with your relationship. You can do
it with your family, you can do it with even
like a business partner. Right. But but it's really it's
really in conflict. So it's like, Okay, I need to,
I need to I have to talk this out with you.
And it allows the other person to actively listen versus

defend because you're sort of forced into this, right. It's
really honestly, it's like in a relationship, it's fucking amazing.
And you do it when you're calm and everything's good,
and you kind of look at it and you're like,
oh yeah, and it brings you. You get to know

people deeper. Right, you know that's good? All right, I'll
try it, Susie. Thanks, great, Thanks, We're going to figure
out that disagreement because you just brought up that we haven't.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
Once once this episode ends, no words, I'm just getting
in my car and getting out of here. Okay, you
did the nice amount of Alexis, how do I try
to relate to my brother that's eight years older than me.

I'm a twenty four year old girl, and we don't
have a.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Lot in common.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
Oh well, that's actually probably for me the answer, because
I have a brother that's seven years younger, and there
was actually a time where I felt like, not that
we didn't have anything common. I actually feel like I
have a lot in common with Wyatt, but I just

felt like I felt I didn't close to him because
we were so far apart in age and hadn't spent
a lot of time together.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
So I feel like, I think that you have to
we'll do.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
Make an effort. When you're twenty four. That means he's
thirty two, right, Yeah, years older. An effort has to
be made. Yeahs having a lot in common, that sounds
like you've got to find out what you have in
common really sort of get together.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
I also think these are moments where you being vulnerable matters,
where you can you say yeah, where you say to
your brother, like I want to feel closer to you,
you know, I want to feel more connected. I miss
you and I want to get to know you better.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
And I like that.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Yeah, I think that's great because, like I think that's
the hardest part for anyone is to just be that vulnerable.
It's fucking hard to be honest. Yeah, it's not easy. Yeah,
I mean especially for me, maybe men, I don't know,
But I think that's a good. I think that's a
good you know, because you might not have a lot

in common. I mean just because your siblings doesn't mean
but I guess if your siblings, you do have a
lot in common, Like the very foundation of your childhood
is similar, and that's a huge common awy can build
things as well, if you're willing to. Yeah, I would
say that would be My advice is to actually just
be vulnerable and say, you know, I've been thinking a

lot about this, and I know you're thirty two and
I'm twenty four, and we're in different seasons of our life,
but I really want to get to know you better
and be closer.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
What is this whole seasons thing?

Speaker 1 (28:40):
The different seasons of your life? You know, season can
change from day to day. That's right, that's the whole word. No, No,
seasons aren't like a day to day. Seasons are like
where you are in your life. Like in one moment,
you're single and you know in this place and then
the next you know, you're in the aggrieving season because

someone passes. The next year in you know, a divorce season,
a time in your life. Yeah, we are happening that
are like really.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Changing a season means shame. Changing seasons.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Yeah, you don't want I can tell by your face
you hate that.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
I don't know all the all the mindful buzzwords. Sometimes
I don't know. I don't know, but it's it's good.
I like it because I just come in out of
every every other day. I mean, so what do you
call that? Well, you know, well, what season are you
in right now? Oh?

Speaker 1 (29:46):
I'm in my I'm in my, I'm I'm in change
A big changing season for me. Mine is like coming
into that place where I really like am putting myself
out there creatively. And that's big for me because I
feel very exposed. Like having my first interview about the album,

it's like I left, I had I had like really
kind of like remember like fuck it, I'm doing this
for a reason.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
I have to put myself out here.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Yeah, but it feels exposed for people just to be like,
you know, as they do anyway judge, but like yeah,
so anyway, okay, okay from Okay Kendall Kate. As a sister,
how do you tell your brother to have better hygiene
without hurting his well.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
All of yours? There you go right there. Yeah, we're
not very sensitive with those things. No, no, no, I
want to be told straight up.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
I wouldn't want to be sensitive about it.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
It's your brother or your sister or whatever some bad.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Say Hey, yeah, like and if I go into or like,
you need to get your ship together?

Speaker 2 (31:08):

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yeah, you smell you need both tucks?

Speaker 2 (31:14):
What's going on? You bet a fucking facial something. I
don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
What are these shoes? Get your shoes? Yeah, I'm super
I'm super honest.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
I think to answer the question, you will not hurt
his feelings if you're being honest.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
But if he's sensitive, because I mean there are we
also aren't very.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Sensitive about those things.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
If he has a sensitive spirit, then I would say,
you know, I love you and I want you to
like be in your best self, and I just have
to tell you that you have to get your you
have to brush your teeth like it's driving me.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
Or you have a humors way, you know, there's a
way to lighten the mood.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Maybe, yeah, take them to coffee and go I'm taking
you to coffee right to tell you that you're discussing.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
Right alread, you just asking a simple question to say,
when you go and sit on the toilet to take
a poop, do you smell your butt before anything comes out?

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Oh? Why would you say that?

Speaker 3 (32:20):
Because then you know he has bad hygiene because he
hasn't washed his butt.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
And why, oh why did you have to go to
the butt of all hygiene? That's disgusting. I don't know, no,
but here, Honestly, the thing about hygiene is it does
reflect someone's mental state as well, like people who aren't
showering or aren't like brushing their hair, or you know,
they're not putting you know, hair.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
I don't even brush my hair in my life.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
No, but I mean, like you know, like like right
for women, but for women, like you can tell when
someone is not feeling good about themselves. So like, if
that's what's happening, then I think that it's a bigger
conversation than just like you know, Oliver, and you know,
I don't know, right, I like being out fishing, right,

like not stinking?

Speaker 3 (33:10):
Yeah, yeah, I would just say use humor, be direct,
see what happens. Okay from Emma, Yeah, how would you
handle if you don't like your siblings significant.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Oh we don't have that. I know, we don't have that.
That's it. That would be that would suck. That would
be really rough. I mean, I don't know, I don't
know what we have the best all.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Yeah, yeah, sisters and brothers, everybody, like even the families
love each other.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
It's pretty We got lucky. You definitely got lucky. I don't.
I don't know. I don't know what. Imagine if you
were married or with someone who I just did not like.
When I'm like this person, how do you deal with that?
I'd probably leave him?

Speaker 1 (33:57):
You would, Yeah, my family didn't like the guy. I'd
be like, this isn't Yeah, I feel like a lot.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
I don't know. This is a tough one. Okay. From
a different perspective, how would you handle it if you
don't like your You know what I mean? I would
say it? What would you say? Stands your wife?

Speaker 1 (34:19):
I'd be like Oliver, Oliver, She's terrible, right, I really would.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
I'd be like, I don't know what.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
You're doing, like she's so mean, or or like how
do you connect with her. She's like, how would you
would if I would have?

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Then you don't like her.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
I appreciate that, but I'm in love and this is
I don't know what the fuck you want me to do.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
So you're gonna have to deal with it. And how
are you going to deal with that? I'd probably tell her,
you'd just be like, you need to be nicer. I
probably would just go up to the sister in Longo.
Here's the deal. I love my brother.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
I have a hard time with you, and I don't
know what that is. I hope it changes, but I
think you're kind of mean sometimes. I don't know I'm
making these happens. You are like or like you don't
get our sense of humor as a family really funny
and like or how about I don't like how you
break my brother or I don't like how you boss
my brother around. It bugs me and it and I

have a problem with it. So I just want you
to know that and.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Let's have a good ques give.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Yeah, yeah, see you honesty is.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
You're very direct that way.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
I would probably could shouldered a little bit, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 2 (35:35):
I make God, it's too passive.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
It's passive aggressive, but i'd be like, I don't want
to deal with it, So I'm not going to you know,
I'm not going to fake it, but to kind of
be like, oh yeah, yeah, okay, because what am I
going to accomplish by telling the significant other that I
don't like them?

Speaker 1 (35:53):
Oh? Well, I think it's just it's like, it's not
like you don't like I mean, you're not saying you
don't like them. You're saying this is I have a
hard time with this, And so you know, I want
you to know when I don't want to talk to you,
it's because you're bothered. If you want to get to
know me and understand why I don't like this. Like
I remember one time I had to say to my

friend of mine's husband, I didn't like the way he
was talking to her. And I said, and I kept
in front of them, I said, I'm going to stop you.

Speaker 2 (36:22):

Speaker 1 (36:23):
If you're going to talk to my friend this way,
you need to get out of my house. I love you, guys,
but like I'm not doing that right because I by
the way, you might love it. You guys might love this,
but like I can't sit here and watch my friend
get spoken to like that, and he actually took it
really well. He was like, I'm so sorry, and I

was like, yeah, I just honestly like, this isn't fun
for me, and this is supposed to be a party.
I like, and and that's my girl. That's my girlfriend,
and she might not be in a place to stand
up for herself, but you're in my house, so I'm
going to do that.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
And I do that to my brothers too.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Even if you were mad at me, I'd be like,
I'm sorry, I don't I'm I don't like this, or.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
You send I'd send an anonymous letter to the significant other,
just saying leave so and so or you're dead like that.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
Oh my god. I would also like to do that.
And then I'd be like okay, and I'd like cut on.
Like the Rolling Stones, I'd be like, let's arty, Okay,
that was we should do those more on.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
I like how the quick they are like bang bang bang, yeah,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
They're not like the long emails, which is fun too, Yeah,
but these are like the quick questions, like they're almost
rapid fire for me.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
And you, yeah, which which I really enjoyed. Thank you
guys for sending you in and alli
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