Ballots, Battles, and Beyond: Angelica Kapsis with VotRite

Angelica Kapsis, President and Co-Founder of VotRite, leads efforts to revolutionize U.S. elections with secure, accessible, and transparent voting technology. A Navy Veteran with degrees in forensic science and psychology, she champions ADA compliance and inclusivity. Angelica also founded Scorpion Fitness Centers, promoting wellness for all abilities. Her community service includes firefighting and mentoring. Under her leadership, VotRite has earned multiple innovation awards. With a skilled team, she drives advancements in electoral tech and shares insights through media appearances, advocating for fair, hack-proof elections where every vote counts.

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So we live in an interesting world where we get
this thing called democracy through voting. Voting is very important,

(01:48):
as you have may seen in the media in Afghanistan
or Iraq of the global War on Terror. You have
seen people come out of voting booths who never got
the chance to vote in their entire life with a
purple finger. Or you've seen people go during the days
of you know, early America and try to make their
mark to vote because we have the right to vote
in America. And so who I brought on today is

(02:11):
UH and Angelica Capsus, former Navy and also creator of
vote Right, which voting.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Software done right.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
It's a very uh delicate world we live in and
I want to welcome you to the show.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
First off, okay, thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Ready to play.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
This is goal Right, which is voting software done absolutely right.
And the difference is in our democracy. As much as
we love democracy, we don't feel that we've carried out
the process much. And frankly, we don't feel that our
is that learn't participate in the democracy. And that's something
that I don't think that any of us have been
exposed to or projecting when we were growing up thinking
about having a lot of days. But it's a major

(02:53):
chain we were trained to do us. Yes, so now
as the time we grew up, our mother and products
that to day your generation, our generation is the time
for change. We're the ones that decide what's going to happen.
And it's it's not a very big demoration. It's really
our age range, you know, anywhere from around fifteen five
on that we're looking at me. We make the impacts right,

(03:16):
so the perspect of what do we do to further
the education way that is pleasing and accepting and it's
entirely non environment with your kids growing up in so
that we can provide them an American democracy which should
be original, to be an original process that we understand
very well. And what Bolt Right is doing is it's
taking a lot of these changes, changes the things that

(03:38):
they've seen that don't quite match up to what a
democracy and the menture should look like. And we look for
over fifteen periods, we built the software aligned with the
provider's devengdances looks by their all the happy minute, and
we will create a software that is actproof and uncontested
on both sides. This way, we simply look for a president.

(04:00):
We go through our day, nobody used attacking one another,
and nobody's streaming. We voted for a price because everybody
knew how to involve themselves, including special needs eligible. We
pick our price, we're happy with it, and we go
for four years to about commandery seed. And that's the
way it's market networks. So that's what our ponts.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Okay, And I'll just say, if you can just keep
a little closer to the to the monitors so we
can hear you clearly. That's right right there, perfect. I
caught all that, and I just want to make sure
that our listener listens. And here's that, so you know,
as as my viewer knows, as people listen, we're real here, right.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
So these are the way that things happen.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
But what you mentioned on was that everybody deserves to
go and vote, including people with special needs, people who who.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Are eligible one hundred percent we don't know.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yeah, And as far as I heard, every single person
I talked to says they're special needs.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
Yea in some way and one of the light in
the bunk, So how many, how many American military guyes
were understanding probably a special needs organization.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
No, we're not, but we do have special Forces, special operations.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
I was in Special ED.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Okay, so I mean, you know, we're all kind of
special around here, all right. Okay, So so everybody needs
access to voting, you know, mail in ballots.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
I have no problem with.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
I'm not a part of the whole, like, oh, they've
been hacked or tampered with. You know, maybe one in
a million. Okay, yeah, there's always one in a million
of anything. However, However, you know that allows my mom
when she was, you know, not doing well, but she
was watching the news and wanting to make sure that
she her opinion mattered.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
We're like, where's the mail in ballots? Right?

Speaker 3 (05:41):
We didn't get them into mail that that last election cycle?

Speaker 2 (05:45):
What was it?

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Yeah, the Biden Trump voting right before she passed away.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
She wanted to make sure her vote mattered. So what
did I do?

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Loaded mom up in the wheelchair, hauled her up the stairs,
got her out of the stairs into the car. Okay,
out of the wheelchair, back to the car, put the
wheelchair away in the car, which is not the easiest thing.
And I'm six foot five and I can handle big things.
And then we drive her to the county election office
here in Salt Lake County, Salt Lake, Utah. And then

(06:13):
again I repeat everything else, get my mom out of
the car, and then we wheel her in, you know,
and yeah right, and then they're like, okay, here, fill
this out. Make sure that you go, here's your here's
your ballot, right, and you go and slide into the
electronic machine.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
She was so happy to put I voted.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
I know.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Right.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
And that's what's been instilled in me is I would
take my dad when he was younger. We'd go vote,
and I'd go with him in the car, and then
afterwards I'd be like, who'd you vote for?

Speaker 2 (06:43):
He's like, I don't have to tell you that.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
And I was like, but you're my dad, Like you're
you're a Green Beret, You're you're supposed to tell me whatever.
I'm like, Dad, but he said to me, He's like,
the first thing I want to tell you right now
is that as an American, your right to not disclose
who you vote for is precious and you don't have
to sit there and brag about it and like boast

(07:06):
about it. And say, my guy, you know any of that,
it's like completely opposite right now. You know, I see
flag trains driving down my city streets and they're like
trying to blow horns for a certain candidate, and I'm
just like, you know.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
How come we lost that decorum.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
Of voting and the preciousness of our democracy and turn
it into this like crips versus blood.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Let's look at your sign behind you. It's red and blue.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
That's right, that's right, and we are for the blow.
But red, white and blue are one hundred percent motivated
to wake up every morning, just like your flag behind
your mind. Somewhere all around my aps too, I have
a pid in everywhere exposed to under.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
My dead right here, it's right here, My flag is
right here.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
So I love the points you brought up, and I
really like to remark on them because those were the
ideas that brought about the full bright cons So as
you were saying with Mom, you were you were taking mom.
I was in a wheelchair leaving the navy there for
a year, I had a four strong legs from the
mail and of course we still at our democracy. So
I lived through the experience describing bless bless a man

(08:14):
to help me. I mean, I did so many bulloks
in the wheelchair, and I was actually bought my own
scandal to the clock and pull.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
Right, especially if you don't have somebody to help you,
a facilitator, somebody like her strong boy come here and
let's go.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Boy, come on, my strong boy put me in the car.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
Yes, and what if you served your country and held
that ultimate sacrifice? Who was there? If I'm not a
phone and mom.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Wants to still vote, It's like how and the mail
didn't show up with the villain ballots? It was like
where are the ballots? Every day she waited, can you
check my mail? Can you check my mail? And I'm like,
you know what, Mom, Nix, Nix nick nick, we're nix
and the mail. We are going. We are going to
the county. You're gonna go vote in person. And that
made her day anyways, you know, going outside good.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
Yes, So the electronic model is actually the preferred model
by amendment, by all the disability advocate points when they
were considering a mail in ballots. I never had a
problem using hybrid methods. Right, So if we did nail
and op and and we did the electronic whether or
not we do lobibility to do the in person systems.
We are providing that access that we're all talking about,

(09:20):
because America seems to be prioritizing to the accommodations, right.
That's what led me to the special special needs field,
the uniquely able, if you like to call it. We
want to put a new spin on it because the
software and other people software, the competitives that you see,
they don't quite have disability accommodations the way that they're
all pitching. I mean, for the amount of time that
I've heard that I have to accommodate anybody, whether it

(09:40):
be radic frost, in a special way. I'm not going
to grow up a wheelchair, rolling up military bailing well around.
So I put my mindset into that, Well, okay, let
me probably give a percent. I'll take the low and
then I will be the manage the provider. And I
did this in a little pression. I was a guy
manager for one hundred million people at cever Pality Association,

(10:04):
and that's where I began implementing this idea. What do
these guys need to vote so that we can take
this population specially whatever they are, whether they're uniquely abled,
or they just need a kick in the bun, that's fine.
So we trained them the way that I was trained
for the United States Navy and Special Operations, and the
way Jim capsis our CEO, and my father, who invented

(10:25):
vote right, also trained me. Which which was the most
significant impact is people I've seen in New York City
an immense amount of years. And what we did with
this file program was we took about it does and
maybe a little bit more, we trained them for approximately
two and a half years intently based off me as
a behavior as to military training. How did I get
out of a wheelchair? How do I vote? What does

(10:45):
the software provide, and what we're going to add to it?
Then I taught these kids because well they're adults, but
we'll say, you know, six to seventy five years old, right,
So if they didn't have the capacity to speak and
understand information, how could they make informed choice? So we
had to actually spend six months teaching language speech. And
these are eligible voters today that voted for whoever mommy,

(11:05):
daddy or the friends said that day, right, And that's
how people learned to vote. But I think that's where
you were describing that there's been this huge change in
how we see democracy and how our kids are raised
and what they're thinking about compared to what our parents
did to us. Right, much different. I mean I was
I'm Greek. So they call it a kutala or they
put pepper in the mouth and they chasing me around
with a big spoon called I'm not making the same

(11:27):
mistakes that I see all these guys making in these
new isolated special needs programs. Right when I trained this group,
this population, after training these little bits which were sort
of this idea that they couldn't do that, they always
needed help, so they didn't try it. They didn't initiate
the foot, but they could vote, they could drink alcohol,
they could drive the car, they could have intimate.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
Relations, probably even by a gun. Right, who says that
they it?

Speaker 2 (11:52):
You know?

Speaker 4 (11:54):
You know, I actually read this one because I got
my concealed carry. If they did not take medication for
a certain period of time, or they were not institutionalized
for it, they might bypass it. Because the checkbox is
up to interpretation exactly.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Hello, Hello, I mean like does do I mean? Does Okay?

Speaker 3 (12:16):
I'm not gonna get into the does everybody need a gun? Concept. Yes,
blown right, But if everybody can have a gun, everybody
can vote and have.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
A relationship and have marriage. And do you know that
they were asking to become live at live at home
nanny's for these cerebral quality couples that wanted to have children. Now,
I will never say past because I love them. They're
like my closest family. They're the only friends in my
contact list. But this is the information that they were
given from the lay person, right, people that maybe weren't

(12:48):
doing these other focused jobs learning different ideas, right or
military having to learn fifty one states of different people
that are not New Yorkers that are going to put
us in our place right to accommodate them differently. So
having that exposure has given me this invaluable capability. And
after I taught them the speech and the fitness, all
of a sudden I taught them the voting system. And

(13:09):
even the some of them was quadriplegic. We did a
sip and puff. They have a little straw. They have
a dot in their head, you know, and they moved
to it. You could see a little example. One of
them voted for their share or color. She doesn't even
speak and she was able to make her choice. That's cool, right,
the other ones because they were able to speak and
they feel fit. They weren't intolerant, there were no outbursts,
and they were voting on the unit without me saying

(13:30):
so easy, like on the phone playing a game. I
love that, you know, And that's it.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Now.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
That's population's part of it.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
Right, and acceptance of another human being to be able
to do some things that we may not. They might
not physically be able to grab something like we can,
but they can mentally understand everything going down. And it's like,
you know, just because somebody's trapped in a body doesn't
mean that they're trapped up.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yeah, it doesn't mean that they're trapped up here, you know.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
And they still have every right to go out and vote.
And you know, there are people who have been in combat,
who have had TBIs, who you know, are in a
wheelchair that can should still be able to get out
and vote. It's not just born with special needs. It's
people who have special needs in the story. Okay, it's

(14:19):
like from the entire time.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
And it isn't like a scary thing, you know, it
isn't like this, oh vote, writes a special needs software
and absolutely not. It is to make sure that any
of us. My friend he was going specially forth because
he wanted it so bad, to three different branches. He
crashed his motorcycle and smashed his face and lost his eyesight.
I created the visual impaired ballot for him and he
chose off a menu, and he was telling me what
speed works because he's a monster that was trained to

(14:44):
be a Green Beret eventually, right, So his brain is like,
every speed is too slow, make it impossible. So to me,
it's going and he's going, oh yeah, and he's not
navigating through the whole thing. So we had a custom
order to every guy that is special needs but not
real right. Because of this pilot program, we've learned what
what do you really regard as special needs? Somebody that

(15:05):
we've isolated and told a couple of things too and
fass and we did a good job by them, you know.
So when we're considering America, honestly, for the President of
the United States or the Senate or the judge that's
going to keep you and your kids out of prison,
you want to make sure that those people are informed
enough of people like us, people especially needs people with exposure.
People that grew up a little tough had to get

(15:26):
rocked and then they became normal. All those things are
very real, and if you looked at them too closely,
they don't sound good. They don't sound like the eligible voter,
and they don't sound like the person you want to
train to become something real, right, whether not your elected
official or a voter itself. So this pilot program, this
ten years of studying and revamping our software, cleared a
lot of these these sort of concerns, right, these considerations, well,

(15:47):
what's going to go wrong? Nothing? With vote right, you
have three different times you can check your work. You're
going to look at a printed document that is one
hundred percent accurate with all your choices, as the online
screen is, which is much different from what you guys
were doing with mom right. Where you fill out your paper,
you scan it and it goes ping or it shows
you a red a green line. You don't know if
it read the multiple choice right, if you don't, Many

(16:08):
times I thought we was right, What do we know
if we don't have our document with us at the end.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Right.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
So that's the concept, right, And then we get more
into it. There's more to it, but the point of
the special needs was, how do we clear that so
it becomes a non event, so they're only integrated as
eligible voters or ineligible, And that's within the software and
online you can see a demo and I'm gonna put
some more on that. We're going to put a new
commercial with sort of like an intro, so you could
look into it and you'll see on our mainscreen it

(16:37):
offers a vision impaired ballot which we made for our
boy Adria, which will allow the ballot to narrate to you.
It'll talk to you at any speed you want, or
you go through a regular ballot, and then you have
a choice for a secret ballot if you're a person
who has neurological impairments, things of that nature. Where you'll
click the top right for ballot settings. You could double space,
you could change the background, you could change the font,

(16:58):
you can do a lot of cool things. This way,
you just feel comfortable and you get through your ballot
on your own. And then on top of that, what
happened in the disability advocate groups when they came around,
they voted vote right number one in popularity. They told
us at the end they didn't need. I actually customized
it based off what they ordered, and then they said,
this is great, but really I only need a stylist
long one of those things that you're So we built

(17:19):
this beautiful system and one of the most disabled, We
had a quadriplegic that wasn't even fully grown, and she goes,
just give me the stylust. She starts voting, like this
the easiest thing in the world. She goes, or I
could just have my my friend do it a supportive person.
So the reality is we have to start listening to
the public. We don't need to get caught up on
so many changes and amendments. We just have to codify
the knowledge. So Utah matches New York when I come
to bring the software there, and we have to get

(17:42):
ourselves to a population that are just voters, and we
have to make sure that we're informed to vote and
vote right with what it gains from business and transactions.
Right now, we're selling shares and we're making it. Oh,
I love to explain this to you. We're making a
transparent company owned by you know, obviously American's American idea,
while still validating any sort of input internationally. Because that's
what Americans do. But you know, the bottom line is

(18:05):
we're going to allow vote right to be transparent by
allowing it to be voter owned by selling shares, by
selling an opportunity for people to invest in vote right
and own a little piece of it, which is mega
different from what's going on now. And after they do that,
because of such transparency build through the software, and such
time taking through our team and us you know, researching
asking what exactly you guys want to make it easy,

(18:25):
it's going to be the most seamless trustworthy process in
American democracy that exists. You know, that's how much care
has gone into it, really.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
And I just hear so much passion coming out of you,
and there's just so much more that you have to say,
and like you're trying to like you know you no, no, no,
I just think like every lane you're going down, you
just have this direction of just like you know, trying
to be successful for others and helping them be able
to attain the goal of you know, just being an
everyday citizen in the US being able to have the

(18:54):
same ability to vote right.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
That's really yeah, comfortable.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
Why are we still talking about thirteen years worth of
a president when we didn't even do anything with the
president because we've been fighting with the president and then
the president changed political partner. We're fighting over the president
change back and we're flighting. What are we doing?

Speaker 2 (19:13):
What do you think about the Uh?

Speaker 3 (19:16):
Okay, So let me just make sure that I understand
is this going to be something that can be integrated
for current elections coming up? And you know, like you know,
and your vote right has been approved by the Department.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
Of Election Assistance Commission the EAC, which right now only
improved the product of the core vendors. Most of them
started out foreigners, and when they came here and they
got supported, Uh, I think it was like Canada to
things of that nature. Things all around, which is usually fine.
You know, we have a relationship with anybody in the world,
and we don't mind building software with anybody of certain
skill sets. But when you start using angel investors that

(19:53):
don't come from an American democracy, sometimes their expectation and
demand differs significantly from what an American product would provide. Right,
Because mostly foreign countries didn't grow up studying the impact
of whether or not a democracy would matter, right, they
were studying the impact against their own democracy, their own
government structure. Part of me like communism, socialism, things of
that nature, and what to do as a kid when

(20:15):
faced with adversity, unfortunately, when it shouldn't feel that way, right.
But if those guys are supporting the money, the value,
which is what we're looking for right now, it's the
only piece that we're not prepared for yet, then they're
going to ask for different things. They're going to ask
to generate numbers, and it becomes more of a business gamp.
And what we're looking to do at vote right is
of course business is obviously paramount, but from Angelica's perspective,

(20:38):
business has to be maintained in a different way than
our free market has has led us with the opportunity
to invite our friends into it, and I hope that's understood.
I'm not sure how to explain that differently at this time,
but I think that it would be more prudent and
more valuable to the American citizens to consider imploring and
hiring American based companies, even if they don't. I don't

(21:00):
quite hit that mark of generating hundreds of millions or
billions at the time you're asking for money, because they
have invested so much time and so much detail into
allowing a process to remain sustained without any intervation or
intervention or resource expended. And that is I think the
most important concept we should be considering today, because anybody

(21:23):
clearly can make money the grill cheese truck guide or
the other voting technologies or what was the other one,
AI tech? Right, AI? And something else is up and
coming marketing, marketing modeling. You know, you're making one hundred grand,
you're making eight million off one commercial? Did you actually
invest a lot of time learning with the impact of
what your commercial's done to the grit? What are you
doing with the money? Right? So I think it's more

(21:43):
important that we're considering companies in America that can grow
that also considered Okay, well you're going to grow in
this direction free marketing, whatever it's going to be, it's
going to give you a certain value, right, That's what
the company's worth because you're going to hit fifty on states,
and if you don't go international, you're going to make
that value. Obviously it's you know, and it's recurring. You're
never going to lose value because you have to vote,
you have to follow for compliance. And you want to
vote in democracy, But what's happening with the excess, what's

(22:07):
happening with these companies that are holding so much money,
like some of our competitors. I think one of the competitors,
they just had an issue with Fox Right and they
settled at one point three billion, is not saying something
like their seven eighty one hundred million they took home.
So that's nice.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
And they've got multiple lawsuits going right now, you know,
with other and they've got.

Speaker 4 (22:26):
So many lawsuits. But those are the guys. By the way,
he's a Greek. I might have been confiused. I'm just kidding.
I was like, it's this identification. He's a Greek Canadian
and he worked with Serbiance and he built the voting
system that you got to be utilizing and by free
with another two or three vendors. And even after an
issue with the packing and the issue, we were doing
some testifying and they were getting they were getting questioned

(22:48):
about what's going on. After they got questioned because not
one tech support showed up on vote night from that
from that person the vendor, how could that be? They
had an issue and they answered the phone and didn't
show up on a lefe action night because I'm thinking
they are an outside of the United States entity and
they were considering money and that's a huge Oh my god,

(23:10):
right because nobody thinks that, you go, oh, this business.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Is Look at.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
The kur The KURK president has a daughter who patented
trademarked in China voting systems. I'm just kind of like,
what what do you get? What are you getting your
hands into? You know, what are you trying to patent
and get these trades from China? And then sitting there
bashing China And then now you're wanting patents and trades
from China and you get them honored and now you

(23:40):
have them. But then you go back and make fun
of China. But yet you have these voting patents. Why
why are you voting?

Speaker 2 (23:47):
What? What elections are going on in China? First of all?

Speaker 3 (23:49):
Second, what are they going to be a So that's
like you're saying, if somebody is coming from Canada Cuba
and they're helping Americans and they got no problem, Maybe
they're naturalized and they want to a part of it.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Whatever the case is, why.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
Is somebody outside of the US per se affecting any
type of voting for the US. And I know that
I'm not talking I know, listener, I'm not talking about
actors out there that are trying to like get into
our election site.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
That's a bigger deal.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
What I'm trying to do is like, yeah, I'm just saying,
like you know, and and and that also leads me
to think right now, like you know, you're secure, right
because there are actors out there that are looking to
do bad things like cut the cable on.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
The bottom of the ocean floor, you know.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
So you know those actors out there, you know, they
may want to just like they may just want to
spring dive with their hacker team right into your.

Speaker 4 (24:41):
Well that what was going on. I was getting hacked
by actually my name was being misidentified for somebody else,
and they were getting our contracts in a very weird way.
And then I found out that it was I don't
want to say the third world, but I do, you know,
only because I sort of feel I feel attacked. I
feel degraded. When I build the system, I built it
with people that we were allied with, like fifteen twenty

(25:03):
years ago before we did this huge renovation for the
disability settings, and I didn't take pay I was working
under my father's shadow and working other jobs so that
these people who were in developing countries that were supposed
to be allied with could have full, full paychecks, and
then they could have an opportunity to come here and
live with dual citizenship, and we were going to put
them up and we were going to make their life perfect.
Now what happened, I'm not sure in terms of, you know,

(25:26):
how to generate enough revenue sustain what we'd like to.
But then I found out that through the course a
few years, it was sort of being created this idea,
maybe through our competitors, maybe throw other things, that I
was not doing the right thing by those developing countries.
But I did not take one paycheck. I don't actually
have much showing for me in a sort of history

(25:47):
because I've been working six collateral jobs to provide for them.
So when that sort of insinuation occurs and people go, oh, well,
I got you hacked because I thought that you were
a different Angelica caps Is that I thought of, you know,
in my mind, whatever it might be, working remotely surrounded
by whatever influence. You stop and you think, all right,
well that's a fifteen year investment that I need kind
of voluntarily, you know, and I'm ready to I'm ready

(26:08):
to proceed, and I'm ready to go. But we really
have to consider what other people are thinking if they're
not informed accurately, and how do we do so, how
do we how do we validate these sorts of things
so that people don't compromise things based off misinformation. And
that's one of the biggest things that we'll contend with
internally today. And I think that everybody should sort of
be informed of and aware of in their own business

(26:29):
ventures and our democracy, right because if a person that
was entrusted to that degree could simply change their mind
based off misinformation and then go at it, they have
the capacity, right if they're a code writer, if they're whatever,
security of tactical knowledge and they just sort of do
things without you know, making sure that they confirm it, well,
that changes a lot. That changes a lot of how
we might strategize and what we can provide.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Right.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
So, now, I every website that I've put up in
the past six months have been hacked by I think
Indonesia or you know, a couple other things Asia. When
I'm and I don't I don't know why because I've
been so invested I you know not, I mean so
frap out of mind. I've been reading forever and I
kind of feel like you know, when you're reading and
you start to get the gist of their lingo, You're going,

(27:11):
all right, cool, this could be like my acquaintance, you know.
So what we all tell you what I'm concerned about,
But what we're going to be the idea is what
parts are the most important to inform a democracy at
this time when you're when you're the president of a company,
focus so intently on doing these right things, considering what
people would deem bad actors when they're learning about the
right firsthand, or computer hackers and these good guys, these

(27:33):
bad guys, the needy, the poor, what really is that way? Right?
Like with these disability settings and they didn't need it.
They go, everything in the law is cool, whatever it
might be, but I want to choose on my own
it's not exactly the way it is. Well, I totally agree,
that's what a democracy is about. So when Vote Right
receives adequate funding and we over finished getting hacked for
fun on our websites, which has nothing to do with
our product, we're going to be using that excess that

(27:56):
we generate because this is a very lucrative field. This
is a I think it's a billion dollar industry, and
we're increasing because people are considering mobile voting, which I'd
like to discuss with you briefly after this. We're going
to be using the excess to allow for these opportunities
to inform people that might one day assist the United
States and whatever capacity they assisted vote right, either from

(28:16):
other countries or they came here and they assisted whatever
it might be. From this twenty five year period, we
need to learn how to inform them. So we have
to get on the ground and we have to do
a little bit of additional work throughout the year to
train people to feel prepared to start voting at time
of election cycle. So what we're currently working on is
we're considering this mobile voting pitch because of people like
your mother, which I'd love to talk about a little

(28:37):
bit more, and we're considering where we're going to put
the funds immediately. It's EAC Certification Election Assistant Commission, just
so that we are a verified voter for the Board
of Elections in any state without their worry. But not
everybody requires that. We're ready to go immediately. But that's
what that eight hundred one thousand million to certification is
with like an eight month, nine one period. It's not

(28:57):
necessary for election cycle, but it is necessary to acquire
enough states, right, But we do want to share. I
believe in neutrality all the time, so I'm not looking
to swipe anybody. I'm looking to take that win, take
the excess and start informing the public in little programs
whether or not. We're at the university's colleges and the military,
and we're going to teach them how to make informed
choice the way our mother and father took so that

(29:18):
there are no there's no misinformation leading us to anything
other than success. Yes, and then obviously.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Yeah, no, it's it's it's it's awesome.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
And to implement this, so it's let me just let
me grasp this all right, as like someone who's just
trying to put this together. So mobile app gets approved
by the Voting Election Commission to be used in person.

Speaker 4 (29:41):
In person electronic system gets approved by so this.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Is still in person. It's not going to be able
to like just exactly, so.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
It's actually a software app. But they're going to run
the in person system as it's how to ensure that
it needs compliance and it works and it's not hackable,
and it's wherever it might be that software application has
a the code that is uploaded into an app that
we can download or a mobile bout it. But it's
separate energies. You can't hack one. You need together. We
just need certain the basement that says our company is

(30:09):
create and can be utilized by voard elections in any
state or municipality. And then after that we can push out.
But the mobile voting is actually offered anywhere because I
don't think enough laws were generated yet to exclude or include.
But it's a matter of I think Tusk Philanthropies right
now is pushing out a bunch of pilots. They did
about eight years ago something that I was considering too,
which is with I think eight different states, six different states,

(30:32):
they ran mobile voting during our election cycle of in
person while everybody was freaking out about the hacked mobile
and they did it successfully, and I think all our
military had an opportunity to vote, you know, some of
it that way, and that was that was the plan.
That's a perfect plan, you know, instead of worrying about paper,
about stuffing, blize machias, whatever you're thinking about. Right, you
just open up your phone, any vote and you're done

(30:55):
and it's it's trustworthy for your bank checks and your
paycheck and your taxes. So it's okay. There's just some
sort of hiccup, and we're not sure if it's competition
based or acting based or reality right, So we're figuring
that out the moment. Voting might be the future for everybody,
and then the in person to perform you know, these
presidential opportunities. Anybody that wants to do it that way.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
Okay, So if if Mom was in bed and she
was still incapacitated to get up and have to get
in the wheelchair and all that kind of stuff, would
she be able to What I'm trying to get is
how does mom use this right? How would you know
the Angelica in the chair use this per se.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
Like what's how's the better?

Speaker 3 (31:47):
How how do we get this implemented to that step
where it's on the phone.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Right, this is going to be on the phone. You'll
be able to like this.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
And so all we need is an opportunity to work
with any agency it's willing for us to do an
initial pilot and then discuss an opportunity for you know,
for what we're doing. But I don't know if you
can you see this here is a little weird might.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Yeah, I can see.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
I can see ye choose active ballot, Union election officers
and delegates, Board of Directors, election members.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Yeah that makes sense. Yeah, so you're laying.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
Your mom goes, I'm ready to vote, I'm sick of
the paper, and she just pushes in the button and then,
depending on what everybody's okay with, chan put a phone
number or put a number like a randomly you can vote,
and she's done. Like you voted for the Mass Singer.
All done, and we got to revolt immediately.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Really, why can't we just vote like the Mass Singer
or Love Island? All right, America, it's time to get
your phones out and vote.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
I'm no, I'm not, I'm rad and I'm the narrator.
What's going on? You got a text? You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
From Vote by prefer that's it. So that's true. That's
I mean, I might have written a book, but that's
the gist. And we're ready to roll. And if anybody
is interested in owning a part of a really cool
transparent voting technology company, and they should reach out. They
can reach out to my first initial last name a
Caapsus at vote right, vot or i te dot com
or info at vote right. If you want to reach

(33:17):
the CEO to J in front instead of a A.
You want to be cool like that.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
Now, listen, capsus. We just talked about vote right. We
kind of went backwards on my show. I usually like
to learn a little bit about the person and uh
and then say how did you wind up in this life?
But I'm cool with just dive it in, you know,
to vote right. But you know, when you're like.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
A capsus, you're like a capsus or you could put
a J in front of it.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
It's like, all right, yes, ma'am, tell me the navy here,
tell me right, tell me the Navy life that you did. Yeah,
tell me your Navy style, like what did you do?
How old were you when you went in the navy,
Why did you go in the navy? What did you
do in the navy? And then how long did you
like kind of and then you got into this tell
me all tell us a little bit aout?

Speaker 4 (34:00):
Yeah down, Yeah, So I joined the Navy because my
friend I was a firefighter and my friend was a
medic and this Polish German guy and he really wanted
to be the medic for the president, and I was
sort of this hard charge or floating around. I wanted
to be a doctor and I was going to create
this humanitarian mission overseas, and I just needed some protocols.
So obviously I was, you know, playing a field, learning
firefighting first response. And I'm like, all right, well I

(34:21):
got a couple of years before I'm going to go
do what I'm going to do next. And he goes,
I'll get promoted immediately, I'll work with the president. If
you joined me. Boom. I'm in the Navy in twenty twelve,
and I wanted to go. I wanted to be an officer,
but I wanted to gain empathy with my troops. It
was like this black and white to me. I wasn't
informed of anything military didn't know better, you know. So
I said, I have to go enlisted. I don't care,

(34:43):
you know, whether I'm eligible or not. I have to
go with what's up, and then I'll latterly transfer to
an officer. And I want to be special Operations. I
want to be on disposal. But my parents, you know,
are like, we're going to put you on the front lines.
That's person you aren't. You're going to die, So you're
going to go to college first, or you're going to
die before that. So I went to college right and
then I was like, I'm still going and that's when
I went and I went in as an air rescue swimmer.

(35:04):
I was a bunch of contracts. I was studying to
do this for a long time, delayed entry program, and
then I ended up becoming a CBE because they promised
me war and air rescue is you know, the Coast
Guard gets war and we get video games, which I'm
not really great at, and so they weren't honest about
that because I didn't go to war. I volunteered four

(35:26):
times and I did not, but I did serve about
four years and I was training so hard that my
legs gave out and I had this injury that's so
blurry to me that I couldn't even explain what happened,
but basically they said that it acted like a crushing injury.
It wasn't a bomb bleast, but it was like that,
and it gave me compartment syndrome in my lower legs
and it gave me this like inverted neck curve and
all this stuff going on. So I was walking with

(35:48):
four stump legs and I was in a wheelchair. Because
nobody believed that, you know how it is, They're a
change your socks and shut up. So I changed the
socks and nothing happened, you know. So I'm trying to
figure out what they did, and they delayed my treatment.
So because of the limbdo pause. It's called limited beauty
for anybody. It doesn't know. They allowed you a certain
amount of time to heal, and it doesn't matter what
they find out. If they you know, they fudged it.
It's that amount of time and you're out. So that

(36:09):
was how my career ended, unfortunately. But but it was
It was okay. It was a great experience. And I
didn't know all the bat I'm I'm weird, okay, I
didn't study I didn't even study the models going back
out of feet. When they started saying so all these
may live, I was like, what are you talking about.
IM gonna jump out of the heel. I'm gonna go

(36:30):
back and have dinner, you know, Like I don't know
we talk, so others may live, right, right, So you know,
you find your nicks by learning. And I was a
little silly and I didn't see.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
That others may live. It's totally pair of rescue and
you're totally dogging.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
It was so others may live for air rescue on
the back of our on a quote and I'm going,
we're talking to that.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
You know, well, you know, you know the dude I
worked for, Brandon Webb of software dot Com. He was
air rescue in his very beginning of the career, or
he was a rescue swimmer. He was, yeah, but he
was a rescue swimmer first and then he went seal team.

Speaker 4 (37:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Yeah, yeah Brandon. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
So I mean, like, you know, I look at him
all the time and he's like, yeah, I just went
to the pool this morning.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
I'm like, I bet you did, Bro, I really bet you.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
Just have to like yeah, you know, like it's like
he's like in New York. He's like, yeah, I just
went to the pool at the place in New York.
And I'm like, oh, yeah, Like what pools in New
York City?

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Really? You know, it's in some built it's like the.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
New York Gym, the New York men the health club
or whatever he goes to. But you know, rescue swimming.
I just want to say, wow, you're you know, clapping
for you okay, hardcore, And I'm so sorry that your
legs had any type of issues with that situation that happened,
because I mean, you know, my wife's a really good swimmer.

(37:44):
I am a good swimmer. As long as I'm doing
like the strokes, I can keep swimming. But once I
get tired, it's like, how do I get this bulliancy
to like just flow? And I'm learning about like oxygen
with your legs when you're in the water, and like
bubbles and like if you kick down.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
You're gonna drop.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
If you don't swim like a frog, you're gonna sink,
and if you don't use your arms.

Speaker 4 (38:03):
I did the doggy caddle to get through until my
mentor seal was like, I'm going to crush your soul.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
I'm going to crush your soul over your doggy paddle.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
You know.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
We go to the gym with my kids to swim,
and we do like maybe twenty to thirty laps in
an hour, and I know that's almost a mile.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
A lap is.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
Thirty five thirty five laps. Yeah, but we're just like
kind of just gracefully moving through the water. And there's
nothing like that. There's nothing like being surrounded by that element.
It's like it's like we're in the Mothership in a pool.
It's like, oh, we're being like rehealed water. You know,
it's like a healing property.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
You know.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
I can't help us stand being hugged by by water. Okay, yes,
And for you to go into the depths of the
night Sea if somebody went overboard and.

Speaker 4 (38:51):
Alaska that's what I was trying for my favorite have
you ever seen the Guardien?

Speaker 3 (38:55):
Well, Alaska is a huge recovery area, like they're constantly
doing rescue.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
And I needed ice baths to survive every workout. So
I was like, I'm a genius, you know.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
You know I go boxing every day, just about every day,
and I still cannot get into an ice bath and
like it, I just it is just so cold.

Speaker 4 (39:15):
You need you need to live through a certain level
of torture. I know it sounds weird, but and then
you love.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
I just want to say, I'm going to crush your
soul if you doggy paddle again, and I'll be like,
I'll take an ice bath, no problem. So so, so
when you were in the Navy, did you commission as
an officer?

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Did you stay enlisted?

Speaker 4 (39:33):
I didn't. I stayed enlisted because I was really into
the special operations ideas, and when I ended up a CV,
I court kind of got like stuck in this hole.
I kept trying to go to EOD and they were like, nah,
you know, when you become of worth someplace that nobody
informed you that, then you stay there right Or if
you're like in between, you don't know where your injuries
are coming from, then you got to figure that out right,
or you're not quite parked, so then they don't prioritize

(39:54):
your requests that type of thing, so you know next
time and in the future. I've always had this just
position and perception, even after my my personal experience, which
is very odd, it's not typical. But I still think
that it's a wonderful idea to enlist in the military,
and if you do want to be an officer, I
still think it's a perfect idea to enlist and then
become an officer. I think that is the make or

(40:14):
break of how our military might do strategically. You know,
so yeah. I mean, all in all, it's a good experience.
And I had no idea what I was telling. I
had no idea that they give you incentives if you
get injured or school. I mean like I'm that type
of weirdo, you know. I was like whoah, yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
So then I got out and they were like more,
yeah right, and you you deserve to have gone there.
I am just sorry that you didn't get a chance to, like,
you know, to hurt Locker the place.

Speaker 4 (40:38):
You know, I probably wouldn't be everybody They're like, they're
gonna be on the front lines. No, I'm gonna bet
the guy holding her hands.

Speaker 5 (40:45):
Making a comfortable and nobody's gonna put me in the spot.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
It's almost like you're like, what part of war? Don't
you understand?

Speaker 4 (40:51):
I'm willing to go exactly like that when they had
we deployed to Spain and they had like a sheet
of paper and all those guys are war vets, you
see them, and then it's only me on the page
that perfectly depicts how my toy.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
So do you still okay? So let's talk about your legs?
How you doing today?

Speaker 4 (41:15):
I'm okay, I can't really run to save my life.
But I worked on the fundamental so hard that I
can sprint and then I become the wobbly mess that
I am. But it's good. It looks good in the
beginning and the best part. It was a blessing to
go into special needs because it's not something I studied.
It's actually something I deterred from. I wanted to be
an antithesiologist and then own like the doctors without borders
and never need a Navy CEO to come overseas. Stay home.

(41:36):
That was like my whole voat I was like, stay
home the wars in United's nobody realizes the war might
be here, and you beautiful morons only learned every other
person in the world and not America yet. So I
was going to consider that solution for myself after I
did the vote right deal with my father, you know.
So that's that was the whole intent, really, you know,
and that's the most important part. But life changes. I

(41:57):
think it's really important that we just we focus on
to and we don't judge anybody's experiences because everybody has
value and everybody in this country was misled. Everybody they
were misinformed. We're spreading this information. We're with partnerships that
we wouldn't have chosen first had we been informed. And
you deal, you deal with cards, you're dolt, but you
don't have to deal alone. And if you have people
like us, like your teammates, that have studied forever to

(42:20):
not make the same errors because they love their men
or their girls, you know, whatever, be we have the solution.
Why not funded. You know it's going to go right back.
It's going to circulate through the economy. It's exactly how
Angelica caps is is. I'll never die with money. I
love blowing money on other people. I love how it looks.
I think it's going to make a perfect earth when
we get into it, and we just have to sort
of click with that idea. I think that we've all

(42:41):
been sort of run through this muck where now we
have an anxiety disorder. We have something to push us
into a trend to purchase something different. Right. Maybe that's
what's going on with our current president. Because we used
to love China back in the day when I was
a kid. I loved the idea of working with the
Chinese on technology. I loved it. I thought they were great.
I was going to join the FBI when I was
a kid and I was going to convince them to

(43:01):
let me integrate Chinese into New York and I was
gonna learn Mandarin. I was gonna live here, take care
of my mother, because everybody wants to do that. If
that's the thing you got to do right now, it's
going to be like my safe play. And if the
times have changed all of a sudden we feel burdened
by the Chinese, well that's that's different. That's totally different
than what it's supposed to be. And I don't think
anybody should feel burdened to making a buy. And I
don't think anybody should feel that they know who they're

(43:23):
going to attack, right you know, like some of these
Germans whoever like Chinese die. You know, like just a
second ago, your kid was dating the Chinese guard they
went to the college with. They love them to having babies.
You know, like, let's get straight. So the idea is,
let's one one another, even if we feel like, oh
my god, it's not right, because it's going to circulate
back into our environment. It's going to be a perfect
deal and we just got to get back. So I
appreciate you letting me throw it all out there. I

(43:45):
hope that it was understood enough.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
I think, I think, I think what is understood is
a kindness is infectious and it can and it and
it can be used in the everyday life.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
You and I have never had a conversation prior to
this show. We did a little like, hey, I'm gonna
do a three two one countdown. We're gonna be recording.
I told you, like, hey, I'm gonna do my get
my wiggles out, so I don't you know, I feel clear. Yeah,
we're all doing getting our wiggles out before we hit live.
And then all of a sudden, we're like, here we
are doing this conversation, and you know, your politics are yours,

(44:22):
mine are mine. You're though, defending one thing that we
both have in common that I know, and that is democracy.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Okay, and so here in the US, Okay, listen, I
have to say last night, my wife and I went out.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
Okay, I'm just gonna get kind of deep here on
the divide of a little bit of America.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
And this is on my take. I went out last
night with my wife. We had to fill up with
some gas.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
I went to go prepay inside the gas station, because
I hate using my car to the machine case of scanners.
So I go inside to prepay and I'm looking around
for a drink for the drive home for myself and
HI buy everything. I say, hey, give me sixty on
number twelve and I go walk and it's guys in there.
He's like, I'll take a ten dollars car wash, please,
And I was like, oh cool, this dude wants a
ten dollar car wash in the middle of the desert,
no doubt. And then I walk out and he's got

(45:07):
this beautiful Chevy orange nineteen seventies, you know, stick shift truck,
all decked out with rims and is playing mariachi music
and it's kind of loud coming out of his car.
And I'm like, the dude in there loves his truck
and he loves the color orange. And I'm going to
let me, let me finish here. So I go to
my wife and I'm like, hey, babe, and I put
the drink in the car and I'm like, that dude's
truck's awesome. He loves orange. And you know what he

(45:29):
bought in there, He just bought a ten dollar car wash.
I was like, he did even buy gas. He just
wants to go clean his truck. This guy behind me
at the pump. I'm on one side of the pump
facing north, he's facing south. He's like, if I wanted
to hear that music, I would have asked to get
in his truck. And I said to the guy, are
you talking to me?

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (45:48):
Like are you looking? Are you talking to me? This
dude's got like this white beer coming down his chin.
He's all looking over at me. I was like, what
do you mean the engine the way it rumbles, because
it was like.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
And I was like, what do you mean his engine?
Because he rolled into the he rolled into the car wash.
I knew exactly what he was talking about. Okay, Mariachi music, okay.
And the dude was like, you know, Latin, Hispanic, whatever
the case. But when he was in there ordering his
car wash, he's like, yo, I'll take a ten dollars
car wash, just like anybody else in this country.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
So I go outside and this guy has the balls
and the audacity.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
To look over at me while I'm filling up with
my fuel and say, if I wanted to hear that music,
I would have gotten his truck. And I looked at
him and I was like, oh, you mean the engine,
And he's like, no, if I wanted to hear that music,
I would have gotten his truck and heard it. I
didn't want to have to hear it over here at
my gas pump. And I just said, well, they're talented musicians.
I mean, I ain't got no problem with it. And

(46:44):
my wife's hearing me say this to this guy and
then he says to me, He's like, I don't think
I should be happening to hear it, and he's like,
he looks at I said, I think we live in
two different Americas, bro, And then I just and he
looked and he kind of like glitched.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
He didn't know what to say.

Speaker 4 (46:57):
You know, trend has created these involuntary movies. They call
it the Cards Trending. You know it's giving us anxiety.
But what you did, the reason I laughed out loud
is because I teach behaviors. And the way that you
were informed about the guy's intent and then you said
it to your wife, you're building the perfect type of
defense for our democracy. You just uplifted her and gave

(47:19):
her an impenetrable argument. If somebody will approach her the
way that you were approached, it's a genius.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
I said, do you think I said that?

Speaker 3 (47:25):
She's like I heard it all, Aaron, and I was like,
you heard me tell him that we live I live
in a different America than you, bro, because he's sitting
here drinking some kool aid of hate and all he
wanted to do is get me to agree with him
at the pump that this guy is like And I
looked at him and I'm like, Bro, you're you're not
going to get that from me. Man, this dude you
were I heard him order the car wash man. Yeah,

(47:47):
that guy probably gets a chance to vote too, so
you should just That's.

Speaker 4 (47:51):
What I'm saying with that's right with friends who built that.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
So I wanted to get a little deep in like
this division in America. Man.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
You you don't approach somebody and just start thinking that
they're going to agree on one like you know not
and they don't have to agree.

Speaker 4 (48:04):
I think that's the biggest dilemma now that we've learned,
We've trained people who weren't exposed. They didn't learn academics,
they didn't have to learn how to talk to other
people with real consequences, like politicians or cops. Right, So
these people that are now demanding that they're right or
that they need you to agree, were isolated and that's
how they were informed. So what you did, I think
is perfect, and that's what we have to do in
order to get them back. They're not all like that.

(48:25):
It's just what they when I break them down when
I'm teaching a parent how to you know, parents does
special needs, and sometimes they're like that because that's what
they learn. They're sitting here, they and bashed over the
head and they only get like an hour.

Speaker 5 (48:33):
For the TV or whatever the kid does, you know
with the other parents, and when you start informing and
they go, oh, oh, I didn't think of it that way.

Speaker 4 (48:39):
I don't have to freak out at all. You know,
I have a choice. And that's the point. We don't
have to We don't have to burden on another at all.
The point of democracy is to vote, and we could
do that about so many more things in the present.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
Vote right will be that you know, Oh yeah exactly.
And so I just want to say, you know, I
did shut them down, just like by saying we live.
I he knew exactly what I said to him when
I said said, we're living in a different America, bro okay,
because like the land of the Free, home of the brave.
Okay what and when he glitched. When he glitched, it
was like he realized that he was wrong for.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
What he was even saying, he knew that he was being.

Speaker 4 (49:15):
You know, I don't think anybody's ever talked him that way.
You'll see how smooth their rights are.

Speaker 5 (49:20):
Where these aggressive of the people, and they all glitch
when they get got, you know, like it doesn't happen
frequently enough.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
So good, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
I just wanted to put that out there. And you
know again, I never met that guy in my life,
and he wanted to have a conversation with me. And
my conversation at the end was like, yo, bro, you know,
check yourself before you wreck yourself because you're talking to
the wrong guy. And both sides have second amendments. By
the way, whatever three sides Americans, all Americans. It's our
god given right. If that's the way you guys want
to look at it in the Constitution, If the Constitution

(49:48):
means this is my DNA, then rising up against tyrannical
governments is also in our DNA.

Speaker 5 (49:55):
Yeah, oh yeah, especially when everybody's preaching this bad aggregate.
But we do believe what's me in your mouth, because
that is huge. That is a huge That is not
some I get to go, buy my day and say
whatever I want freely. If that sort of thing a post,
will you all of a sudden don't become a democracy
but a democratical public leading us to a totality carrion
or a socialist communist. That's much different from what you

(50:16):
all got used to saying and being agreed upon with,
you know, So it's important that they keep that in mind.
It's not going to be the same if we do
not defend.

Speaker 4 (50:22):
It, if we do not go.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
And you're so right about it. It's here at home,
you know, we have to defend ours. And sometimes the
war is at the ballot box, okay, and by you know,
just taking your time, uh, you know, asking your neighbor
to take you to the vote if they have to,
or reaching out to somebody believing in.

Speaker 4 (50:44):
Mobile voting test philanthroes and vote rights since they have
two different ideas.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
That work, Yeah, exactly. And I wanted to bring I
wanted to bring Angelica on the show. You know, I
know you guys reached out, but it just made sense
to talk about, you know, voting and you know, people
who may not have all the same vantages that we
do every single day to get to go vote. I
can get my car right now, buckle up. You know,
I'm healthy at this point. I can go vote.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
Not everybody gets that chance, but everybody deserves the chance.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
And so Angelica, I just want to say, it's been
a really great conversation to have you on for this
last hour talking about vote right. And can you tell
me just a few how we can find out about
vote right? Is there a dot com or an we'll
go ahead tell us.

Speaker 4 (51:25):
Yes, Thank you so much. It was likewise of pleasure.

Speaker 5 (51:27):
So if ever you want some information you want to
contact me directly, you can see www.

Speaker 4 (51:32):
Dot vote right, d O T or t E dot com.

Speaker 5 (51:36):
If you want to look at the face of our
mobile site, it's vote rightmobile dot com. If you remove
the E, you'll be taken directly to our voting site.
If you'd like to E, you'll be taking to the
educational page. And if you want to reach out to us,
it's those emails my first initial, last name or info
at vote right dot com.

Speaker 4 (51:50):
And we're looking forward to it.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
All right, perfect, And you know what as you start
to you know, launch and have everything start to come
into to play and everything's going the way it should be.
To have you back on and we could talk about
more success and more exposure and just more about Angelica.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
And I'm sure there's a ton.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
Of firefighters stories and a ton of like just we're
like I just I just shipped the snowflake on the
tip of the iceberg with her. Okay, all right, and
and already you're super awesome and I would love to
have coffee if we ever in the same towns.

Speaker 4 (52:22):
Yes, I get over there.

Speaker 5 (52:24):
I'm gonna come.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
Oh yeah, exactly. And I think my wife and I
might come out to NYC.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
And so you know, it's always nice to see a
friend or a familiar face and just say, hey, what's up.
Love your town, you know that kind of thing. So
well on behalf of Brandon Webb, former air rescue So
I'm gonna probably butcher that he was a Navy rescues.
He was a yeah, he had sniper instructor, master quartermat
the guy, the guy that believe he believes in me. Okay,

(52:52):
let's thank you. I just want to say thank you
and to Calum and to guy the editor at soft
Repp and everybody that's all on the back end that
nobody really gets to see, and you know, you just
get to see the rock stars on the front.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
That's me.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
I'm calling myself a rock star, you know, because all
the rock stars behind the scene make that stage and
that scene happen, and without them, there's just no show.
So big salute to them, A big salute to your
people who sent you my way. It's not Angelica, it
was shout out her name.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
What's their name? Adrian Transmedia? What is it?

Speaker 4 (53:30):
Tom Madden's daughter. Adrian is trans Media Marketing. Who is
my temporary AI tech? She's perfect and.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
That's hard well perfect, well, Adrian, thank you for being
on the show, and or thank you for sending Angelica
to the show with a vote right And if you're
a donor or you're looking to invest in vote right,
you can reach out to Angelica and see if it's
the right fit for you and your organization and your portfolio.
So with that said, you know, not a paid sponsor,

(54:00):
totally a random you know, not random guess, but just
like a yeah, I think I lost your voice though,
oh yeah, perfect, perfect, Well what that said. I'm gonna
let you guys go. And this is rad saying peace.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
You've been listening to your self Red Radia