March 10, 2025 • 34 mins
From the smooch that made Courtney clutch her pearls, to the close-up on Andrew's 8-pack, to Jo's joint venture with Juicy Jake...the ladies aren't holding back in this 'Melrose Place' recap.
Plus, some behind-the-scenes insights about what the cast did on their downtime, little Easter eggs spotted in the episodes, and why episodic television isn't ideal for working moms.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney Thorn Smith.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
And daphnews Aniga and iHeartRadio Podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Hey guys, Hey everyone to our recap of Still the Place.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Yes, back for another recap.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Episode twenty three in case anyone wants to catch up.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
So exactly, we're doing a little bit of a new format.
Laura's going to give us an overview of the show
and then we're going to just get into the nitty
gritty and storytelling, which is all of our favorite parts.
So Laura tell us a little bit about episode twenty
three of Melrose Place.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Yeah, so episode twenty three, my new partner.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Is the title.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
It was directed by Richard Lang and was written by
Frank South. And this episode, we don't see all of
our characters. We really focus on Alison and Billy and
Amanda and Keith shows up and Jake and Joe heat up.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
And what happens is Alison learns.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
That Amanda is definitely going to be dating Billy, and
she is confused about that and wants to confront her
feelings about the relationship with Billy, and so they make
a plan to have the conversation about their own relationship,
and it's confusing because when Alison gets a flower delivery,
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it turns out it's from Keith and she.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
But she doesn't say who it's from. So she's in
front of Amanda saying, oh, it must be from Billy
because you know, we decide to talk about our relationship
and it's not long stem roses from Billy.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Yad, but clearly Allison assumes it is. And so it's
heartbreaking because Keith comes back into her life and she
decides to sort of let him back in after.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
All because.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
And then they have a fabulous dinner party where they
invite Amanda and Billy over.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
It's not the most fun to watch. I'm not really
happy seeing her go back with Keith.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Yeah, not at all.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
At the same time, Geek and Joe are having this
fabulous relationship and he's telling Joe how happy he is
being with her, but he's.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Sort of struggling for money.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
His job is his job disappears that motorcycle shop is
going under, so this episode is about him trying to
come up with the money to take over the motorcycle
shop and he can't get alone in the bank. While
at the same time, Joe's getting a divorce settlement, her.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
First inclination is turned down.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Yeah, but she ends up offering this divorce settlement as
a like, hey, I can give you the money for
a down payment on the shop, and they end up
deciding by the end of the episode to go into
business together.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
For the Moors.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Oh and I didn't say this, but I just want
to say my very favorite last thing is like they're
toasting sham pain in the shop that he bought with
the money that she gave him for the down payment,
and they're toasting champagne and as.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
She's drinking Jacob's. So you're a silent partner, right.
Speaker 6 (03:13):
We'll see silent as silent as can be?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Now, have you could just be a fly on the
wall with my husband and I he knows I can't
be silent about anything, And I just where is this
partnership gonna go?
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Do you think that was scripted or do you think
that was on the mind?
Speaker 5 (03:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (03:31):
That's a good question.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
The silentist can be.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Well, it was a It was a very cute episode
for Jake and Joe and the Amanda and Billy relationship
kind of turned.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Into a thing. And by the end of the episode
there in bed together.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah, man, if we could just not bring that up,
that would be great.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Well, there's so much to talk about inside of this episode,
like is good?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah, all right, yes, I can't even wait.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
All right, let's go you first.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
First, I want to say, as the woman who played
Alison's bestie, I just want to say, I'm so sorry,
but Billy and Amanda are so cute together.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, you're together soon because the ice skating, and then
you know at the end when she's on top of him.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
You're with a woman. Now, I'm like, this makes sense.
And I was like, oh, I can't believe.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I know.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I was thinking in the beginning, like they have their
first kiss, and I'm like, good for you, Andrew, because
his mouth is closed. It's a very chase kissed. But
at the end, when she's in the lawn room, I'm like,
oh my god, they're really kissing. But you know what
I thought, Apparently Andrew noticed too how beautiful Heather is
by the end of the yes.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
But you know what I thought. I thought that eight
pack that she climbed on that was work. That was like,
you're nine. Believe Courtney gets to go home to that
after hours.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
That's what I did well, I did thirty years ago.
Now not so Now I go home to this twelve pack. Yes, now.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Awesome.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Did you guys notice in the in the scene it's
supposed to be like so sexy with Amanda and Billy.
Billy's dialogue is so stupid, like don't don't. Don't start
a sentence with well, all the women I've slept with
are dated whatever, Like he starts a sentence that way
when he's about he's getting into bed with Amanda, and
that's the way he starts a sentence.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Well, do you.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Remember that Woody Allen movie when Dian Wee says to
John Cusack.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yeah, don't don't. It's honestly, that's what it is.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
I wanted to shut up and stop saying stupid stuff.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
I thought it was very hot.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
I loved how she just pulled his belt out of
the pants.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
And you're just like, what the hell is she gonna do.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
With She like makes this loop and then she just
runs it down, and I thought it was I thought
it was great. I was like, wow, you know, we
had a really good show back then.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
We were sex and adorable and Alison and Keith Are
just was like, oh, could you stop it. So you know,
Keith is the one waiting in Shooters when Alison's expecting
Bill and we're all expecting Billy and it's Keith. And
it's like, oh, Keith, He's so disappointing. And I was
so annoyed with Alison. I'm so annoyed, and I remember
when the Keith relationship ended, and then instead we're bringing
him back for three and I'm like, come on, can
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Alison not have learned anything? And there's this really funny
line when when they were all at dinner first of all,
and Allison says, why don't you guys come to dinner tonight?
Speaker 5 (06:29):
I'm like what?
Speaker 1 (06:30):
So they get they meet at Shooters, and then the
next day she's inviting Billy and a man come to dinner.
It happens fast in the house in the wrong, so wrong,
And they're sitting at dinner and Keith is just pontificating
and blah blah blah blah blah, and Amanda goes, I
don't mean to offend, but basically she goes, but you're
obnoxious and arrogant, and.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I'm too bored. I'm too tired to point out why
you're bored.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
That was great boring and I'm too annoyed to even
talking about it.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Right, So I felt the same way you did, DAF.
I'm like, Billy and Amanda are so cute together, and
Keith and Allison are so exhausted. I don't know it's
is it?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Because I know it's coming because I know what a
jerk he was before. But I also know what's coming
because we've seen this. You know, I know what's happening.
But I'm so creeped out by him. It's like the
whole time you want to.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Go, oh you guys, Oh yeah, there should be some conflict.
There's no conflict. I don't want him near her.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Well because he cheated on his wife with her. She
finally gets out, it's a terrible relationship. Everybody's rolling their
eyes's keeping her from Billy. Allison finally walks away. He
comes back in just says I'm divorced. Now, didn't you
miss me? She goes yes, and next thing you know,
they're kissing. And she said, fighting Billy and Amanda for
dinner it wasn't earned. And so we're so mad at
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him for last time, as should Allison be. By the way,
she should still be mad at him. She should totally
be and he was a jerk to her at the end.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
He was obviously like, you know, we're getting the idea
that he can't control his temper, and he's.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Yes, he grabbed her and shooters. Did you know that
he noticed that he wrapped her by the arm again?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (08:05):
And but what I really saw in this episode for you,
Courtney as Alison is like that you were you were
reluctant to be in this relationship too.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
You were just so sad that the Billy thing.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Like this is what I got from it, that Alison
is clearly like Keith is kind of her second choice,
but she wants you know, she feels like, okay, Billy,
that ship is sailed.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
So I got to I guess I take this.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
That to me just felt so sickening because I could
see that that was just the psychology in Allison's I mean,
I was.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Going by the line, though, you know, it's like, again,
I know what Keith is and I know it's almost
like I know I'm not seeing it for the first time,
but I'm just trusting the lines, and I'm thinking, well,
you know, maybe she did love him, she did fall
in love with him.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
And maybe she she.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Is willing to take it back him back, and she says,
we got to start over. I'm not willing to just
like hop in the sack with you and pick up
where we have to start over. This is, you know,
slowly first date time. Yeah, get to know each other
on these terms.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
She's saying the words I still love you or whatever,
but I don't believe it. It's like the way she
says it is what gives me like the heartbreak to go,
oh god.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
She doesn't mean that. She's just doing that because she's.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Also so embarrassing. So the flowers come and she thinks
that Alison thinks they're from Billy and makes it big
to do to Amanda about well we had this talk
and we're going to talk tonight. So so embarrassing and humiliating.
So maybe when Keith comes up, it's like, you know,
it's really it's such a hard thing. And then well,
I guess I was just confused, like I didn't have
feelings to you. I guess I just said feelings for
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Keith and I projected them onto you. So I think
you're right, Laura. I think that she's trying to make
sense of it because it's it's humiliating to kind of
realize she finally likes Billy and then he's clearly into Amanda,
And how embarrassing to make that big thing about, oh,
we're talking tonight and then it wasn't even him.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I think the dinner thing is, you know, trying to
make it work. Okay, you know, well maybe we can
go on double dates and we'll all get along and
I'll be fine with it, you know, because Alison's confused.
Alison and Billy, if they weren't so confused, they wouldn't
be platonic. Still, you know, they've been together now for
how many episodes? But so my point is like, maybe
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she's just trying to make it work. Okay, we can
all big one happy family.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
And I think she wants to show Billy, look, we're happy.
I'm with Keith. This is good.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
You have a person and I have a person. Look,
this is great.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Yeah, and then he goes blah blah blah. Well, and
Allison's boyfriend's annoying.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
After the dinner when Billy and Amanda get to go
going what is she seeing him? But you have to
stay there and be the character of Allison still in
the moment going, why was Amanda go toing you?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
You know, like that must have been so hard also leave.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
But no, she's just stepping right into this role, isn't she.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I'm gonna support him even though he was like, you know,
there's a time and place to do what he was doing,
going on about the environment and you don't insult everyone,
I know.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
As an environment.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
I think she's trying to convince herself. And also, haven't
you ever like this just current? Haven't you ever had
a bad relationships and all your friends like you should
get out, you should getut, you should get out, but
you have to like you're so in it, you're like, no,
this is good, and here's why it's good. I think
maybe she's trying to rewrite the past and say, no,
this was worth it, This was worth all the wreckage
I caused, Like he got divorced, this was worth it,
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even though the audience is going, it's really not sweetie,
like it's really yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
I mean I think we've all done that, being in
a relationship that you know, you justify to yourself, you
explain it and you're like, yes, this.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Is this is fine.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Well he's actually this yeah, okay that but he's also this,
and I think we've all done it, and you just
see Alison doing that.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
It's just so you know it's bad when you're looking
around for people who have it worse, like, well, it's
not that bad.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
It's at least it's not that it.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
Is not that bad.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Just lower the bar.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
So I want to get back to to the Joe
Jake storyline, which is so cute. First of all, first
scene when Grant comes in and those baggy boxers. Grant
is being absolutely adorable and he's talking about how happy
he is, how happy is in his life. And at
one point she reaches out, you do this for us
a lot, Dawn. She touches his biceps and I'm like, oh,
thank you, sweetie, thank you for doing that.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
For the auto, I touch his bop.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Yes, I'm like, thank you for doing that. We all
wanted to do that.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
I didn't know where else to grab.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
I mean, what do you do?
Speaker 5 (12:39):
It's like they need a close up as a cell.
You gotta go this, of course you do.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
I also noticed your hair was so bouncy and amazing
up curly.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
It was so curly.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
I had a short haircut that was growing out, and
they used a little red Belcrows. Remember the smallest were
the red ones, and there's like blue and green and.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Whatever, those little red I was like, that was.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
A red Belcrow day because all over and then my
little hair just comes.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Off like you had pobulous hair upon waking.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
But I noticed there were two chokers.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
We need to have a choker count going forward because
Melrose will have a lot of women in chokers. Those
little necklaces and I Joe wore to this episode.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
I felt very Melrose.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
It was very cute as far as the wardrobe felt
very like the Melrose that I remember.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Yeah, I know that, but yeah, I love the Jake.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
The Jake and Joe thing I thought was so great
because it's like they're setting.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
Up home, you know what I mean, Yeah, and she's like.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I believe in you, and you know he's like, oh,
I believe in you, but I don't want you know,
your money? He and then he she's dressing him in
that blue chambray shirt, the jean shirt and the tie.
They're both fans to go to the tie and the
you know that wool blazer and and she's just like
talking him up and everything. It felt very like newly
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wet or something very supportive of it.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
But did you notice I noticed when I watched Her Day,
you did a lot of accents in this one. So
in the first scene you're like, do you know Jeff Rowe?
And then the last one, I think it was Russian,
was like, is that Russian?
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (14:13):
She did right right. It's her fun it's her playfulness.
That's what I find. It's a very playfulness.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Like every scene you did a little something different in
cute cuteness.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I think for me it was really nice to see,
you know, as I feel back into thirty years ago,
I feel overall that Joe was so put upon, that
she had so much going on, like episode after episode
over the four years that I was there. So to
see your like happy and joyful and literally bouncy, her
hair all bouncy, and her just happy with Jake, it's like, oh, yeah,
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hang on to that girl.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
I was so happy to see that.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
The second that they start talking about the money and
she's not going to take it, I'm like, Oh, someone's
going to need the money, and you know it was
going to be Jake because I love that he said
only rich people turned down money. And then we go
to his garage, did you notice how much that looked
like our production office, Like they didn't even try.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah, this was like outa no, that was our production
office with the desk.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
You could see it.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
A crew truck was in the background of the scene
where Rusty's telling Jake that the place has gone under
and you can't pay him and it's all over whatever.
That like you can tell they're outside these offices that
you're talking about, and you can see their breath.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
So it was like, yes, early in the morning I
think it.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Was February or something when this episode was shot, right
the cold up there.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Maybe they didn't remember getting that cold. I noticed that too,
that you could see their breath, you think because it
was first shot out.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
There was one of our crew trucks in the background too,
so it's clearly up on a lot like right nearby.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
You couldn't shown the no it was in there.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
It was actually in the distance, but you could see it.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
But I noticed that about the breath, and I was like, Okay,
they either wanted to knock this off quickly, like just
like one camera angle to me, like just bring your
bike in front of there and then move that truck
in to hide all of our other props.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Let's just do it here, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Hurry up and get it move inside. Oh there are
scenes like that. But yeah, I you know, but I
I the reason that she turned it down.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
I mean, watching it. I was going fifty thousand dollars.
They could really use that. That could really be.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
I could use that right now. Yeah, it would be great,
it'd be great, It would be great. I will not
be angry.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
And it was nineteen ninety two or three.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
So how much was that?
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Core? Let me do the math. Carry on here, let
me do the math.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Probably seventy five grand.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
They both really needed the money.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
But you really just.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Go what she went through with that family. That's very,
very controlling and very you know New York family. It's
all quid pro quo. You know, you're going to come
to my benefit. You're essentially buying it.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
I'm buying a.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Ticket to yours. Like it's very there's no free lunches.
And she knows that because she lived it.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
So the price must.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
Have been much higher than the fifty grand that she
was offered.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
And she also knows how much they really have probably
so in a scheme of things, it wasn't that much.
And She probably just felt like anyway, it was an
emotional response.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
But I think she changes her mind and.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
She's said, but way do you hear this, staff? It's
one hundred and twelve thousand dollars in today's dollars. What Well,
so now now we're all mad at Joe one hundred
and twelve thou.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Given that, Like Jake's reaction I thought was fairly calm.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
He just turned down over one hundred grand and and
he's like, okay, yeah, yeah, that is common, right.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
You do about inflation? That's incredible, that's it.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Well, having gone to the market yesterday, I can attest
to the fact that things are insanely expensive right now.
Can you believe it? When you go to the market
and you expect it to be whatever it used to be,
and it is crazy. Butt's we don't have to go
down that road.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Okay, let's not get into the depression of today. This
is an escape for people.
Speaker 6 (18:23):
Let's go back to the hell of Melrose Place characters.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Let's talk about the early nineties.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
By the way, the uh thinking about this time in
nineteen ninety three and what was going on, like the Bodyguard, right,
had just come out of the movie and Huch movie
Houston and Whitney Houston's song I Will Always Love You.
Its like the top hit, Like that's the time that
we're talking about.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
I love it. Just thinking about it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Seem like that was that long ago, that song, because
you know, we all loved that song. I love it.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
It's still so like contested and used and like such
a iconic.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Well there wasn't it funny the back to the show.
But that so when when Jake goes to the bank
and he looks all nice in his shirt and they said,
like he tries to get a loan and they said,
we gave out bad loans. I was like, bad luck
because I think of that is two thousand and eight, right,
But this was back in the nineties, so I don't
think I was as aware of that term. But that
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turn as it was in two thousand and eight, like, oh,
is this like being a bad lot. Yeah, well he says,
you have no collateral.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
He's like, it's my hard work and.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
My my business acumen, my business mind collateral.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
But having ben Stein deliver that information.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Yeah, wasn't that interesting.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
I wanted him to open the scene by like Mueller.
I think he was disappointed but.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
Sarah's Buehler.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
But then when Jake comes back and he's upset and
Joe goes to comfort him, he has such a terrible
reaction when Joe offers him the money, right, Like, he
has such a huge pride reaction and she's being so
sweet about it.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Well, yeah, she obviously had to call back the lawyer
and say okay, I'll.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Okay, twist my arm, I'll take the fifty grand.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
And wait, and I think in this one you had
a Spanish accent because you're talking about the food. That's
three accents.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
Wait wait, well you know, yes.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Right, she had some bassas and I said it with
an accent. Well you said it. You said it probably
with the proper.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
Today New York thing, like.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Maybe we're working with a dialect coach of this episode.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Well, I did notice that there was food and drink
in every scene with Jake and Joe.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yeah, Andrew, and I noticed he commented on it too.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Food was three dollars and the beers were too, Yes.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
What was six dollars? Yeah? Big, you big spender, you
no wonder you have money to buy him his thing? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Oh god?
Speaker 1 (21:06):
And then did you see Jake's big pleated chinos.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yes, I thought that outfit was great, the one with
the blazer when he was all put together.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
But I loved it.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
But he's he has the body for flat front ginos,
don't we don't do big pleated pants on.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Well, he can get away with it because there's like
nothing but hardboard there.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
But yeah, I did notice those.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I noticed them on Billy a lot, those big pleated
chinos there there. I noticed them on Michael.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
I thought that's oh, I think Matt was wearing pleated
ginos too. Yeah, or maybe he pleated denim kind of
like some guy who delivered the flowers was wearing pleated denim.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
Unbelievable pleated denim.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
That is nineties right there, very p Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
You know what else I noticed? I think there's product placement.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
I'd been noticing it for a couple episodes that like
in the morning, Billy used to bring Alison juice, here's
your juice, drink your juice, and then Jake brings Joe,
here's your juice, and toast, and just after Billy has
said here's your juice.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
And there juice in the morning, like what is this juice?
Speaker 4 (22:23):
There was a very prominent minute made bottle of orange.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Juice and thought, I wonder.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Everybody's drinking juice in the morning instead of coffee, Like
who are these?
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Well maybe that explains because in the first episode, I'm
making toast and squirting what I guess is margarine, Like
we're out of a square, like if a squirre bottle
and I noticed I didn't eat it, Like I noticed
that I didn't. I chose to not eat the toast,
but that I was Could that be product placement?
Speaker 5 (22:54):
I don't know, but.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
I didn't see the brand, but I did see the
squirt on that one. I saw the brand on the
minute made orange juice, and that made me go, Okay,
that's why we keep bringing everybody juice in the morning.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
I actually do.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
That was pretty subtle. In the beginning, I'm watching the
show Bones, which I never watched before. It's adorable, by
the way, and the product placement on that is so hilarious.
Like she drives a Prius and she'll say, oh, let
me put it into my GPS. I can do it
with just my voice.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
No, go, what's that?
Speaker 1 (23:22):
She goes, Oh, that's my automatic parallel parking button, Like
it's that over the prius? Has it Wow, God, it's
so funny. It is that air?
Speaker 5 (23:33):
Is that a two thousands bones?
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah, it's actually adorable. So I never watched it before
because people start to made fun of it. But I
think it's really really a cute show. So I highly
recommend it. And if you want to write a PRES,
then you'll see all the if you're looking for a pres,
you'll see all the things that prius can do by
watching the show.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Starting to get ads for it.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
At this time, they advertise it over I remember them
talking about it a little bit. Remember this was the
time of Seinfeld and they were always talking about Snapple
and I do you remember we had some product placement
and it was a big debate at the time if
that was okay, but it really brought money in.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
I remember like whenever there was product placement for foods
at craft service, there would just been to have a
whole like you know, like a whole cooler of snapples
or a whole thing.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
Yes, you know, and like all the same.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Thing, and you're like, well, they must have gotten this
for free. They get boxes of it for free.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
And then they put it in the cupboards and stuff.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Yes, that must have been the beginning of it.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
I think it was.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
I think it was the do you think we had
a bunch of like minute made juice boxes at the time.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
I don't think we had juice boxes then, just did we?
Speaker 4 (24:38):
I mean, finally the mystery is solved, is why is
everybody drinking juice in these seasons?
Speaker 3 (24:44):
No?
Speaker 5 (24:44):
No, that might be it.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
This was also Frank South's first script, and I thought
it was really good.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
When Billy and Amanda, when Billy says, yeah, you know,
I've always who do I love? He said Hamy Away
and he's like yeah, and he goes on about how
he's read everything all of the and how he's such
a great writer. He's so simple, just goes on about,
you know, heming away, and I thought, I thought, Okay,
(25:11):
I want to see who wrote this, because every once
in a while there's like a little easter egg of
like the writer.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
I could see like if that were Darren, I could.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
See that being Darren, you know, or now it's Frank South,
who wanted who thought that is when he was a young.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Writer, because he's a literary reference, you.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
Know, yeah, just wanting that. So I'm just going to
put it in there and.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Just like that poem remember oh my gosh, remember he
was talking who was it Chip talking about or was
it talking about Frank South and how he was so literary.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
And putting poems.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Remember when Jake holds that poem to Joe and he's like,
get rid of the poem.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
So this is the same writer. That's Frank South who
he was talking about.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Yeah. Yeah, he didn't want it to be a soap opera,
and you can kind of see it in the script.
I thought it was a really good, really fun script,
well crafted and the lines were great.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Did you guys notice that Michael, Jane and Matt weren't
in the episode at all. They didn't once, and we
barely even had a Rhonda sighting. She was like an
extra in the shooter scene.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Yeah. They were really focused on these two relationships.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Yeah, it's like so many people just barely appeared, if
at all, and they you know, they have to be
paid because they're serious regulars, so they got paid for
those episodes even though they didn't appear at all.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Well, it really started, you remember it. You know, if
you had a really strong storyline, you were there all
the time, and then if you didn't, you were just gone.
Because there were so many characters to take care of.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
You'd be golfing.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
I remember Grant golfing and maybe Thomas too, because there's
a golf club out that there's a golf course out there,
or napping or whatever.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
They were so nice to us that, you know, it
was so well run that they could look at the
schedule and say, yeah, you have three hours off and
they would let us go for three hours. Yeah, but
not far rare, not far, not far. But you know
we could go to target. The guys could go hit
golf balls. Like that's pretty rare that you can actually leave,
because you know, you work on a sound stage. Usually
(27:11):
you're there all day. Right, maybe you can go to
the little company store, but that's it.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
I just remember a chip like, okay, we'll let you go.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
But he cut it very closely, like very short, like
I would come back and still wait two and a
half three hours, you know, I mean before they needed
to be sure that you know, it wasn't like but
and you're doing like.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
All the things I could have done in that extra time.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Yeah, but it's hard to keep the ten of us,
or however many of us are were like at hand
and ready to go because sometimes they have to switch
something around, you know.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
It's a weird thing. I remember working that schedule and
thinking about, like, how would that work when you had kids,
because you'd get there at six and whether you had
a lot of a lot to do that day or not.
You'd be there till like sometimes you have scenes in between,
so you get there at six am, you get home
at eight am. And I remember thinking, Man, if you
had to be somewhere like I was young, I didn't
have any real responsibilities, how would that feel right? And
(28:06):
I remember after I had my son and I got
offered a couple of episodics, which is what this is, episodics,
and I thought no, because if I left the house
at six and I was waiting around for six hours
during the day and I was missing time with my kid,
I would lose my mind. Right, did you work on
episodic after you had kids?
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Laura, only a little?
Speaker 3 (28:28):
And it does.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
It's just everything changes after you've had kids and how
you look at your time and how you spend.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Did you guys ever bring your kids to or babies
when they were very young to set and have someone
there with you And yeah, I was.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Trailing on According to Jim when I had Jack, and
it was great. It was a sitcom, right, so sitcom
actors are very humane, and he would come with me
and it's so relaxed. It's a very different world. And
then one time I did a guest spot on a
show and they asked me for like this specific and
(29:00):
it ended up the one day I worked with on
Jack's birthday and it was just a couple of scenes,
but you know how episodic goes, it ended up. I
was there from morning and then I thought I'll be
back in a couple hours and it was eight o'clock
at night and he's like, Mommy, where are you? Or
are you He's probably eight Oh. I was dying and
then I said I'm done. I'm done. I started leaving
and they said, no, no, no, we've added you to
a scene. And I just started. I was like, no,
(29:23):
you can't, you can't, No, no, you can't. And they
were like, good news, You've added you to a scene.
And I lost my mind and they let me go
and shockingly they didn't ask me back.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
But I, she's so difficult.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
It was like it was his like the one day
of the entire year. But the lesson I took from
that is episodic wasn't the right thing for me, Like
just as a mom. It was too hard because I
was around, Like for people who have full time nannies
and they know they're going to work full time, that
works for people, but that's not how I had it
set up. So I thought, Okay, this, this doesn't work
(29:59):
for me.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
Yeah, so you mean episodical, great job is a mom?
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Right, Well, it's a great job for anyone because I
think it's you know, it's a.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Very late today, yeah, or hers for hers for hers
and then shoot. But but episodic, you mean an hour
drama That was Alan McBeal, wasn't It wasn't that drama? Yeah,
that was before. That was before I had Drag. Those
We were eighteen hour days on that show. Those were
crazy hours done in Manhattan Beach. Those were crazy Manhattan Beach.
I've never shot down There was that katiful once you're there,
(30:29):
but it takes a long time. It wasn't. It was
equi distant. It may even been closer than Santa Clarita,
but the drive to Santa Clarita, you're going against traffic.
It was it was thirty minutes Manhattan beach can be
an hour, just if traffic's not on your side. So
you know so much about more And I was thinking too,
and I just want to say this quickly. I know
we have to wrap up, but I was thinking the
(30:50):
beginning seeing and Allison again, it is really annoyed through
the full show, She's just cranky, cranky, cranky. And I thought,
you know, one of the things we talk about a
lot is how much fun is to have this time
together now and we see people, and I thought, you know,
part of why Alison is so intense is I just
took myself more seriously in my twenties. Like one of
the great things about getting older is I just don't
(31:12):
take myself so seriously. I feel lighter, don't you guys
feel that? Like I just go through my I'm lighter.
I have such better perspective on what's important and what isn't.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Perspective is a way. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Yeah, So that's part of why there's not as much
gradation and my performance as Alison. I just think so
many more things felt serious to me. I just wasn't
light about as light about things as I am now,
Like I really want to enjoy the moment now, I
don't think I got that as much when I was younger,
for sure.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Well, also, like these scripts are coming fast and furious,
and you're working all the time, like if you don't
have a whole lot of time to like, yeah, you
know whatever, really find all the layers or have time
to even play them and stuff.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
But I actually thought you had a very.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Nuanced performance in that because I could I could feel
that Allison was not actually doing what she wanted, but
what she just was going to settle for. And I
just think that's that's a nuance that I don't know,
I think having picked up I like of malverrose Place.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
Having nuance at all.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
So that's the way it was, Daphne.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
That's why it was all the more impressive that I
nuance the ass out of it. I didn't we don't want.
I don't know if I did or not, but I
was just I was realizing going I was more serious,
Like I laughed a lot, We did laugh, like we
did have fun. But I just think that that was
part of it. I think I was absolutely curious then,
(32:39):
like this was serious work, even though.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Yeah, and there's a lot on our plate, there was
a lot on your plate on all of our plates
and we're in our I was thirty, You guys are
late twenties. You're probably middle twenties. I was twenties for
your early twenties. Okay, well I was thirty. I think
when I started her about to be something. But but
that's young, and you have all this on your plate,
(33:01):
so I think you have to be serious.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
There's like a real intention. There's an intensity to it
for me.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Would I think that if I were to do it now,
I think I'd have a lot more fun with.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
Well, of course it would be light and day different.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
I would be like, they're so cute together. You'd be
all over Billy like that.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Well, so good to see you guys as always. Yeah,
super fun.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
The next episode, you guys, is called Bye Bye Billy,
So I'm curious what is that going to mean?
Speaker 5 (33:31):
What does that mean? Where's it going?
Speaker 4 (33:34):
We're in the like third trimester of season one.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
That's where your ankles are so.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
Swollen, the third trimester.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Well, well you guys soon, Thanks again for tuning in,
don't forget to subscribe and download, and we'll see you
next time on.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Still the Place and we'll see you for the Morrow's minute.
Bye everyone,
Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney Thorn Smith.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
And daphnews Aniga and iHeartRadio Podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Hey guys, Hey everyone to our recap of Still the Place.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Yes, back for another recap.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Episode twenty three in case anyone wants to catch up.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
So exactly, we're doing a little bit of a new format.
Laura's going to give us an overview of the show
and then we're going to just get into the nitty
gritty and storytelling, which is all of our favorite parts.
So Laura tell us a little bit about episode twenty
three of Melrose Place.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Yeah, so episode twenty three, my new partner.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Is the title.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
It was directed by Richard Lang and was written by
Frank South. And this episode, we don't see all of
our characters. We really focus on Alison and Billy and
Amanda and Keith shows up and Jake and Joe heat up.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
And what happens is Alison learns.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
That Amanda is definitely going to be dating Billy, and
she is confused about that and wants to confront her
feelings about the relationship with Billy, and so they make
a plan to have the conversation about their own relationship,
and it's confusing because when Alison gets a flower delivery,
(01:33):
it turns out it's from Keith and she.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
But she doesn't say who it's from. So she's in
front of Amanda saying, oh, it must be from Billy
because you know, we decide to talk about our relationship
and it's not long stem roses from Billy.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Yad, but clearly Allison assumes it is. And so it's
heartbreaking because Keith comes back into her life and she
decides to sort of let him back in after.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
All because.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
And then they have a fabulous dinner party where they
invite Amanda and Billy over.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
It's not the most fun to watch. I'm not really
happy seeing her go back with Keith.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Yeah, not at all.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
At the same time, Geek and Joe are having this
fabulous relationship and he's telling Joe how happy he is
being with her, but he's.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Sort of struggling for money.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
His job is his job disappears that motorcycle shop is
going under, so this episode is about him trying to
come up with the money to take over the motorcycle
shop and he can't get alone in the bank. While
at the same time, Joe's getting a divorce settlement, her.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
First inclination is turned down.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Yeah, but she ends up offering this divorce settlement as
a like, hey, I can give you the money for
a down payment on the shop, and they end up
deciding by the end of the episode to go into
business together.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
For the Moors.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Oh and I didn't say this, but I just want
to say my very favorite last thing is like they're
toasting sham pain in the shop that he bought with
the money that she gave him for the down payment,
and they're toasting champagne and as.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
She's drinking Jacob's. So you're a silent partner, right.
Speaker 6 (03:13):
We'll see silent as silent as can be?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Now, have you could just be a fly on the
wall with my husband and I he knows I can't
be silent about anything, And I just where is this
partnership gonna go?
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Do you think that was scripted or do you think
that was on the mind?
Speaker 5 (03:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (03:31):
That's a good question.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
The silentist can be.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Well, it was a It was a very cute episode
for Jake and Joe and the Amanda and Billy relationship
kind of turned.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Into a thing. And by the end of the episode
there in bed together.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah, man, if we could just not bring that up,
that would be great.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Well, there's so much to talk about inside of this episode,
like is good?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah, all right, yes, I can't even wait.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
All right, let's go you first.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
First, I want to say, as the woman who played
Alison's bestie, I just want to say, I'm so sorry,
but Billy and Amanda are so cute together.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, you're together soon because the ice skating, and then
you know at the end when she's on top of him.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
You're with a woman. Now, I'm like, this makes sense.
And I was like, oh, I can't believe.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I know.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I was thinking in the beginning, like they have their
first kiss, and I'm like, good for you, Andrew, because
his mouth is closed. It's a very chase kissed. But
at the end, when she's in the lawn room, I'm like,
oh my god, they're really kissing. But you know what
I thought, Apparently Andrew noticed too how beautiful Heather is
by the end of the yes.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
But you know what I thought. I thought that eight
pack that she climbed on that was work. That was like,
you're nine. Believe Courtney gets to go home to that
after hours.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
That's what I did well, I did thirty years ago.
Now not so Now I go home to this twelve pack. Yes, now.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Awesome.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Did you guys notice in the in the scene it's
supposed to be like so sexy with Amanda and Billy.
Billy's dialogue is so stupid, like don't don't. Don't start
a sentence with well, all the women I've slept with
are dated whatever, Like he starts a sentence that way
when he's about he's getting into bed with Amanda, and
that's the way he starts a sentence.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Well, do you.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Remember that Woody Allen movie when Dian Wee says to
John Cusack.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yeah, don't don't. It's honestly, that's what it is.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
I wanted to shut up and stop saying stupid stuff.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
I thought it was very hot.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
I loved how she just pulled his belt out of
the pants.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
And you're just like, what the hell is she gonna do.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
With She like makes this loop and then she just
runs it down, and I thought it was I thought
it was great. I was like, wow, you know, we
had a really good show back then.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
We were sex and adorable and Alison and Keith Are
just was like, oh, could you stop it. So you know,
Keith is the one waiting in Shooters when Alison's expecting
Bill and we're all expecting Billy and it's Keith. And
it's like, oh, Keith, He's so disappointing. And I was
so annoyed with Alison. I'm so annoyed, and I remember
when the Keith relationship ended, and then instead we're bringing
him back for three and I'm like, come on, can
(06:21):
Alison not have learned anything? And there's this really funny
line when when they were all at dinner first of all,
and Allison says, why don't you guys come to dinner tonight?
Speaker 5 (06:29):
I'm like what?
Speaker 1 (06:30):
So they get they meet at Shooters, and then the
next day she's inviting Billy and a man come to dinner.
It happens fast in the house in the wrong, so wrong,
And they're sitting at dinner and Keith is just pontificating
and blah blah blah blah blah, and Amanda goes, I
don't mean to offend, but basically she goes, but you're
obnoxious and arrogant, and.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I'm too bored. I'm too tired to point out why
you're bored.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
That was great boring and I'm too annoyed to even
talking about it.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Right, So I felt the same way you did, DAF.
I'm like, Billy and Amanda are so cute together, and
Keith and Allison are so exhausted. I don't know it's
is it?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Because I know it's coming because I know what a
jerk he was before. But I also know what's coming
because we've seen this. You know, I know what's happening.
But I'm so creeped out by him. It's like the
whole time you want to.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Go, oh you guys, Oh yeah, there should be some conflict.
There's no conflict. I don't want him near her.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Well because he cheated on his wife with her. She
finally gets out, it's a terrible relationship. Everybody's rolling their
eyes's keeping her from Billy. Allison finally walks away. He
comes back in just says I'm divorced. Now, didn't you
miss me? She goes yes, and next thing you know,
they're kissing. And she said, fighting Billy and Amanda for
dinner it wasn't earned. And so we're so mad at
(07:46):
him for last time, as should Allison be. By the way,
she should still be mad at him. She should totally
be and he was a jerk to her at the end.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
He was obviously like, you know, we're getting the idea
that he can't control his temper, and he's.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Yes, he grabbed her and shooters. Did you know that
he noticed that he wrapped her by the arm again?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (08:05):
And but what I really saw in this episode for you,
Courtney as Alison is like that you were you were
reluctant to be in this relationship too.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
You were just so sad that the Billy thing.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Like this is what I got from it, that Alison
is clearly like Keith is kind of her second choice,
but she wants you know, she feels like, okay, Billy,
that ship is sailed.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
So I got to I guess I take this.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
That to me just felt so sickening because I could
see that that was just the psychology in Allison's I mean,
I was.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Going by the line, though, you know, it's like, again,
I know what Keith is and I know it's almost
like I know I'm not seeing it for the first time,
but I'm just trusting the lines, and I'm thinking, well,
you know, maybe she did love him, she did fall
in love with him.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
And maybe she she.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Is willing to take it back him back, and she says,
we got to start over. I'm not willing to just
like hop in the sack with you and pick up
where we have to start over. This is, you know,
slowly first date time. Yeah, get to know each other
on these terms.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
She's saying the words I still love you or whatever,
but I don't believe it. It's like the way she
says it is what gives me like the heartbreak to go,
oh god.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
She doesn't mean that. She's just doing that because she's.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Also so embarrassing. So the flowers come and she thinks
that Alison thinks they're from Billy and makes it big
to do to Amanda about well we had this talk
and we're going to talk tonight. So so embarrassing and humiliating.
So maybe when Keith comes up, it's like, you know,
it's really it's such a hard thing. And then well,
I guess I was just confused, like I didn't have
feelings to you. I guess I just said feelings for
(09:43):
Keith and I projected them onto you. So I think
you're right, Laura. I think that she's trying to make
sense of it because it's it's humiliating to kind of
realize she finally likes Billy and then he's clearly into Amanda,
And how embarrassing to make that big thing about, oh,
we're talking tonight and then it wasn't even him.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I think the dinner thing is, you know, trying to
make it work. Okay, you know, well maybe we can
go on double dates and we'll all get along and
I'll be fine with it, you know, because Alison's confused.
Alison and Billy, if they weren't so confused, they wouldn't
be platonic. Still, you know, they've been together now for
how many episodes? But so my point is like, maybe
(10:24):
she's just trying to make it work. Okay, we can
all big one happy family.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
And I think she wants to show Billy, look, we're happy.
I'm with Keith. This is good.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
You have a person and I have a person. Look,
this is great.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Yeah, and then he goes blah blah blah. Well, and
Allison's boyfriend's annoying.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
After the dinner when Billy and Amanda get to go
going what is she seeing him? But you have to
stay there and be the character of Allison still in
the moment going, why was Amanda go toing you?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
You know, like that must have been so hard also leave.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
But no, she's just stepping right into this role, isn't she.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I'm gonna support him even though he was like, you know,
there's a time and place to do what he was doing,
going on about the environment and you don't insult everyone,
I know.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
As an environment.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
I think she's trying to convince herself. And also, haven't
you ever like this just current? Haven't you ever had
a bad relationships and all your friends like you should
get out, you should getut, you should get out, but
you have to like you're so in it, you're like, no,
this is good, and here's why it's good. I think
maybe she's trying to rewrite the past and say, no,
this was worth it, This was worth all the wreckage
I caused, Like he got divorced, this was worth it,
(11:37):
even though the audience is going, it's really not sweetie,
like it's really yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
I mean I think we've all done that, being in
a relationship that you know, you justify to yourself, you
explain it and you're like, yes, this.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Is this is fine.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Well he's actually this yeah, okay that but he's also this,
and I think we've all done it, and you just
see Alison doing that.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
It's just so you know it's bad when you're looking
around for people who have it worse, like, well, it's
not that bad.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
It's at least it's not that it.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
Is not that bad.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Just lower the bar.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
So I want to get back to to the Joe
Jake storyline, which is so cute. First of all, first
scene when Grant comes in and those baggy boxers. Grant
is being absolutely adorable and he's talking about how happy
he is, how happy is in his life. And at
one point she reaches out, you do this for us
a lot, Dawn. She touches his biceps and I'm like, oh,
thank you, sweetie, thank you for doing that.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
For the auto, I touch his bop.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Yes, I'm like, thank you for doing that. We all
wanted to do that.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
I didn't know where else to grab.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
I mean, what do you do?
Speaker 5 (12:39):
It's like they need a close up as a cell.
You gotta go this, of course you do.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
I also noticed your hair was so bouncy and amazing
up curly.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
It was so curly.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
I had a short haircut that was growing out, and
they used a little red Belcrows. Remember the smallest were
the red ones, and there's like blue and green and.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Whatever, those little red I was like, that was.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
A red Belcrow day because all over and then my
little hair just comes.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Off like you had pobulous hair upon waking.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
But I noticed there were two chokers.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
We need to have a choker count going forward because
Melrose will have a lot of women in chokers. Those
little necklaces and I Joe wore to this episode.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
I felt very Melrose.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
It was very cute as far as the wardrobe felt
very like the Melrose that I remember.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Yeah, I know that, but yeah, I love the Jake.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
The Jake and Joe thing I thought was so great
because it's like they're setting.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
Up home, you know what I mean, Yeah, and she's like.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I believe in you, and you know he's like, oh,
I believe in you, but I don't want you know,
your money? He and then he she's dressing him in
that blue chambray shirt, the jean shirt and the tie.
They're both fans to go to the tie and the
you know that wool blazer and and she's just like
talking him up and everything. It felt very like newly
(13:59):
wet or something very supportive of it.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
But did you notice I noticed when I watched Her Day,
you did a lot of accents in this one. So
in the first scene you're like, do you know Jeff Rowe?
And then the last one, I think it was Russian,
was like, is that Russian?
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (14:13):
She did right right. It's her fun it's her playfulness.
That's what I find. It's a very playfulness.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Like every scene you did a little something different in
cute cuteness.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I think for me it was really nice to see,
you know, as I feel back into thirty years ago,
I feel overall that Joe was so put upon, that
she had so much going on, like episode after episode
over the four years that I was there. So to
see your like happy and joyful and literally bouncy, her
hair all bouncy, and her just happy with Jake, it's like, oh, yeah,
(14:49):
hang on to that girl.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
I was so happy to see that.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
The second that they start talking about the money and
she's not going to take it, I'm like, Oh, someone's
going to need the money, and you know it was
going to be Jake because I love that he said
only rich people turned down money. And then we go
to his garage, did you notice how much that looked
like our production office, Like they didn't even try.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah, this was like outa no, that was our production
office with the desk.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
You could see it.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
A crew truck was in the background of the scene
where Rusty's telling Jake that the place has gone under
and you can't pay him and it's all over whatever.
That like you can tell they're outside these offices that
you're talking about, and you can see their breath.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
So it was like, yes, early in the morning I
think it.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Was February or something when this episode was shot, right
the cold up there.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Maybe they didn't remember getting that cold. I noticed that too,
that you could see their breath, you think because it
was first shot out.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
There was one of our crew trucks in the background too,
so it's clearly up on a lot like right nearby.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
You couldn't shown the no it was in there.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
It was actually in the distance, but you could see it.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
But I noticed that about the breath, and I was like, Okay,
they either wanted to knock this off quickly, like just
like one camera angle to me, like just bring your
bike in front of there and then move that truck
in to hide all of our other props.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Let's just do it here, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Hurry up and get it move inside. Oh there are
scenes like that. But yeah, I you know, but I
I the reason that she turned it down.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
I mean, watching it. I was going fifty thousand dollars.
They could really use that. That could really be.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
I could use that right now. Yeah, it would be great,
it'd be great, It would be great. I will not
be angry.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
And it was nineteen ninety two or three.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
So how much was that?
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Core? Let me do the math. Carry on here, let
me do the math.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Probably seventy five grand.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
They both really needed the money.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
But you really just.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Go what she went through with that family. That's very,
very controlling and very you know New York family. It's
all quid pro quo. You know, you're going to come
to my benefit. You're essentially buying it.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
I'm buying a.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Ticket to yours. Like it's very there's no free lunches.
And she knows that because she lived it.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
So the price must.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
Have been much higher than the fifty grand that she
was offered.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
And she also knows how much they really have probably
so in a scheme of things, it wasn't that much.
And She probably just felt like anyway, it was an
emotional response.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
But I think she changes her mind and.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
She's said, but way do you hear this, staff? It's
one hundred and twelve thousand dollars in today's dollars. What Well,
so now now we're all mad at Joe one hundred
and twelve thou.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Given that, Like Jake's reaction I thought was fairly calm.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
He just turned down over one hundred grand and and
he's like, okay, yeah, yeah, that is common, right.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
You do about inflation? That's incredible, that's it.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Well, having gone to the market yesterday, I can attest
to the fact that things are insanely expensive right now.
Can you believe it? When you go to the market
and you expect it to be whatever it used to be,
and it is crazy. Butt's we don't have to go
down that road.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Okay, let's not get into the depression of today. This
is an escape for people.
Speaker 6 (18:23):
Let's go back to the hell of Melrose Place characters.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Let's talk about the early nineties.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
By the way, the uh thinking about this time in
nineteen ninety three and what was going on, like the Bodyguard, right,
had just come out of the movie and Huch movie
Houston and Whitney Houston's song I Will Always Love You.
Its like the top hit, Like that's the time that
we're talking about.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
I love it. Just thinking about it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Seem like that was that long ago, that song, because
you know, we all loved that song. I love it.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
It's still so like contested and used and like such
a iconic.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Well there wasn't it funny the back to the show.
But that so when when Jake goes to the bank
and he looks all nice in his shirt and they said,
like he tries to get a loan and they said,
we gave out bad loans. I was like, bad luck
because I think of that is two thousand and eight, right,
But this was back in the nineties, so I don't
think I was as aware of that term. But that
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turn as it was in two thousand and eight, like, oh,
is this like being a bad lot. Yeah, well he says,
you have no collateral.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
He's like, it's my hard work and.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
My my business acumen, my business mind collateral.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
But having ben Stein deliver that information.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Yeah, wasn't that interesting.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
I wanted him to open the scene by like Mueller.
I think he was disappointed but.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
Sarah's Buehler.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
But then when Jake comes back and he's upset and
Joe goes to comfort him, he has such a terrible
reaction when Joe offers him the money, right, Like, he
has such a huge pride reaction and she's being so
sweet about it.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Well, yeah, she obviously had to call back the lawyer
and say okay, I'll.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Okay, twist my arm, I'll take the fifty grand.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
And wait, and I think in this one you had
a Spanish accent because you're talking about the food. That's
three accents.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
Wait wait, well you know, yes.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Right, she had some bassas and I said it with
an accent. Well you said it. You said it probably
with the proper.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
Today New York thing, like.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Maybe we're working with a dialect coach of this episode.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Well, I did notice that there was food and drink
in every scene with Jake and Joe.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yeah, Andrew, and I noticed he commented on it too.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Food was three dollars and the beers were too, Yes.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
What was six dollars? Yeah? Big, you big spender, you
no wonder you have money to buy him his thing? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Oh god?
Speaker 1 (21:06):
And then did you see Jake's big pleated chinos.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yes, I thought that outfit was great, the one with
the blazer when he was all put together.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
But I loved it.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
But he's he has the body for flat front ginos,
don't we don't do big pleated pants on.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Well, he can get away with it because there's like
nothing but hardboard there.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
But yeah, I did notice those.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I noticed them on Billy a lot, those big pleated
chinos there there. I noticed them on Michael.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
I thought that's oh, I think Matt was wearing pleated
ginos too. Yeah, or maybe he pleated denim kind of
like some guy who delivered the flowers was wearing pleated denim.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
Unbelievable pleated denim.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
That is nineties right there, very p Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
You know what else I noticed? I think there's product placement.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
I'd been noticing it for a couple episodes that like
in the morning, Billy used to bring Alison juice, here's
your juice, drink your juice, and then Jake brings Joe,
here's your juice, and toast, and just after Billy has
said here's your juice.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
And there juice in the morning, like what is this juice?
Speaker 4 (22:23):
There was a very prominent minute made bottle of orange.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Juice and thought, I wonder.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Everybody's drinking juice in the morning instead of coffee, Like
who are these?
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Well maybe that explains because in the first episode, I'm
making toast and squirting what I guess is margarine, Like
we're out of a square, like if a squirre bottle
and I noticed I didn't eat it, Like I noticed
that I didn't. I chose to not eat the toast,
but that I was Could that be product placement?
Speaker 5 (22:54):
I don't know, but.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
I didn't see the brand, but I did see the
squirt on that one. I saw the brand on the
minute made orange juice, and that made me go, Okay,
that's why we keep bringing everybody juice in the morning.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
I actually do.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
That was pretty subtle. In the beginning, I'm watching the
show Bones, which I never watched before. It's adorable, by
the way, and the product placement on that is so hilarious.
Like she drives a Prius and she'll say, oh, let
me put it into my GPS. I can do it
with just my voice.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
No, go, what's that?
Speaker 1 (23:22):
She goes, Oh, that's my automatic parallel parking button, Like
it's that over the prius? Has it Wow, God, it's
so funny. It is that air?
Speaker 5 (23:33):
Is that a two thousands bones?
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah, it's actually adorable. So I never watched it before
because people start to made fun of it. But I
think it's really really a cute show. So I highly
recommend it. And if you want to write a PRES,
then you'll see all the if you're looking for a pres,
you'll see all the things that prius can do by
watching the show.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Starting to get ads for it.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
At this time, they advertise it over I remember them
talking about it a little bit. Remember this was the
time of Seinfeld and they were always talking about Snapple
and I do you remember we had some product placement
and it was a big debate at the time if
that was okay, but it really brought money in.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
I remember like whenever there was product placement for foods
at craft service, there would just been to have a
whole like you know, like a whole cooler of snapples
or a whole thing.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
Yes, you know, and like all the same.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Thing, and you're like, well, they must have gotten this
for free. They get boxes of it for free.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
And then they put it in the cupboards and stuff.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Yes, that must have been the beginning of it.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
I think it was.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
I think it was the do you think we had
a bunch of like minute made juice boxes at the time.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
I don't think we had juice boxes then, just did we?
Speaker 4 (24:38):
I mean, finally the mystery is solved, is why is
everybody drinking juice in these seasons?
Speaker 3 (24:44):
No?
Speaker 5 (24:44):
No, that might be it.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
This was also Frank South's first script, and I thought
it was really good.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
When Billy and Amanda, when Billy says, yeah, you know,
I've always who do I love? He said Hamy Away
and he's like yeah, and he goes on about how
he's read everything all of the and how he's such
a great writer. He's so simple, just goes on about,
you know, heming away, and I thought, I thought, Okay,
(25:11):
I want to see who wrote this, because every once
in a while there's like a little easter egg of
like the writer.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
I could see like if that were Darren, I could.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
See that being Darren, you know, or now it's Frank South,
who wanted who thought that is when he was a young.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Writer, because he's a literary reference, you.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
Know, yeah, just wanting that. So I'm just going to
put it in there and.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Just like that poem remember oh my gosh, remember he
was talking who was it Chip talking about or was
it talking about Frank South and how he was so literary.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
And putting poems.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Remember when Jake holds that poem to Joe and he's like,
get rid of the poem.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
So this is the same writer. That's Frank South who
he was talking about.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Yeah. Yeah, he didn't want it to be a soap opera,
and you can kind of see it in the script.
I thought it was a really good, really fun script,
well crafted and the lines were great.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Did you guys notice that Michael, Jane and Matt weren't
in the episode at all. They didn't once, and we
barely even had a Rhonda sighting. She was like an
extra in the shooter scene.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Yeah. They were really focused on these two relationships.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Yeah, it's like so many people just barely appeared, if
at all, and they you know, they have to be
paid because they're serious regulars, so they got paid for
those episodes even though they didn't appear at all.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Well, it really started, you remember it. You know, if
you had a really strong storyline, you were there all
the time, and then if you didn't, you were just gone.
Because there were so many characters to take care of.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
You'd be golfing.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
I remember Grant golfing and maybe Thomas too, because there's
a golf club out that there's a golf course out there,
or napping or whatever.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
They were so nice to us that, you know, it
was so well run that they could look at the
schedule and say, yeah, you have three hours off and
they would let us go for three hours. Yeah, but
not far rare, not far, not far. But you know
we could go to target. The guys could go hit
golf balls. Like that's pretty rare that you can actually leave,
because you know, you work on a sound stage. Usually
(27:11):
you're there all day. Right, maybe you can go to
the little company store, but that's it.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
I just remember a chip like, okay, we'll let you go.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
But he cut it very closely, like very short, like
I would come back and still wait two and a
half three hours, you know, I mean before they needed
to be sure that you know, it wasn't like but
and you're doing like.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
All the things I could have done in that extra time.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Yeah, but it's hard to keep the ten of us,
or however many of us are were like at hand
and ready to go because sometimes they have to switch
something around, you know.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
It's a weird thing. I remember working that schedule and
thinking about, like, how would that work when you had kids,
because you'd get there at six and whether you had
a lot of a lot to do that day or not.
You'd be there till like sometimes you have scenes in between,
so you get there at six am, you get home
at eight am. And I remember thinking, Man, if you
had to be somewhere like I was young, I didn't
have any real responsibilities, how would that feel right? And
(28:06):
I remember after I had my son and I got
offered a couple of episodics, which is what this is, episodics,
and I thought no, because if I left the house
at six and I was waiting around for six hours
during the day and I was missing time with my kid,
I would lose my mind. Right, did you work on
episodic after you had kids?
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Laura, only a little?
Speaker 3 (28:28):
And it does.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
It's just everything changes after you've had kids and how
you look at your time and how you spend.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Did you guys ever bring your kids to or babies
when they were very young to set and have someone
there with you And yeah, I was.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Trailing on According to Jim when I had Jack, and
it was great. It was a sitcom, right, so sitcom
actors are very humane, and he would come with me
and it's so relaxed. It's a very different world. And
then one time I did a guest spot on a
show and they asked me for like this specific and
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it ended up the one day I worked with on
Jack's birthday and it was just a couple of scenes,
but you know how episodic goes, it ended up. I
was there from morning and then I thought I'll be
back in a couple hours and it was eight o'clock
at night and he's like, Mommy, where are you? Or
are you He's probably eight Oh. I was dying and
then I said I'm done. I'm done. I started leaving
and they said, no, no, no, we've added you to
a scene. And I just started. I was like, no,
(29:23):
you can't, you can't, No, no, you can't. And they
were like, good news, You've added you to a scene.
And I lost my mind and they let me go
and shockingly they didn't ask me back.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
But I, she's so difficult.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
It was like it was his like the one day
of the entire year. But the lesson I took from
that is episodic wasn't the right thing for me, Like
just as a mom. It was too hard because I
was around, Like for people who have full time nannies
and they know they're going to work full time, that
works for people, but that's not how I had it
set up. So I thought, Okay, this, this doesn't work
(29:59):
for me.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
Yeah, so you mean episodical, great job is a mom?
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Right, Well, it's a great job for anyone because I
think it's you know, it's a.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Very late today, yeah, or hers for hers for hers
and then shoot. But but episodic, you mean an hour
drama That was Alan McBeal, wasn't It wasn't that drama? Yeah,
that was before. That was before I had Drag. Those
We were eighteen hour days on that show. Those were
crazy hours done in Manhattan Beach. Those were crazy Manhattan Beach.
I've never shot down There was that katiful once you're there,
(30:29):
but it takes a long time. It wasn't. It was
equi distant. It may even been closer than Santa Clarita,
but the drive to Santa Clarita, you're going against traffic.
It was it was thirty minutes Manhattan beach can be
an hour, just if traffic's not on your side. So
you know so much about more And I was thinking too,
and I just want to say this quickly. I know
we have to wrap up, but I was thinking the
(30:50):
beginning seeing and Allison again, it is really annoyed through
the full show, She's just cranky, cranky, cranky. And I thought,
you know, one of the things we talk about a
lot is how much fun is to have this time
together now and we see people, and I thought, you know,
part of why Alison is so intense is I just
took myself more seriously in my twenties. Like one of
the great things about getting older is I just don't
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take myself so seriously. I feel lighter, don't you guys
feel that? Like I just go through my I'm lighter.
I have such better perspective on what's important and what isn't.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Perspective is a way. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Yeah, So that's part of why there's not as much
gradation and my performance as Alison. I just think so
many more things felt serious to me. I just wasn't
light about as light about things as I am now,
Like I really want to enjoy the moment now, I
don't think I got that as much when I was younger,
for sure.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Well, also, like these scripts are coming fast and furious,
and you're working all the time, like if you don't
have a whole lot of time to like, yeah, you
know whatever, really find all the layers or have time
to even play them and stuff.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
But I actually thought you had a very.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Nuanced performance in that because I could I could feel
that Allison was not actually doing what she wanted, but
what she just was going to settle for. And I
just think that's that's a nuance that I don't know,
I think having picked up I like of malverrose Place.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
Having nuance at all.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
So that's the way it was, Daphne.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
That's why it was all the more impressive that I
nuance the ass out of it. I didn't we don't want.
I don't know if I did or not, but I
was just I was realizing going I was more serious,
Like I laughed a lot, We did laugh, like we
did have fun. But I just think that that was
part of it. I think I was absolutely curious then,
(32:39):
like this was serious work, even though.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Yeah, and there's a lot on our plate, there was
a lot on your plate on all of our plates
and we're in our I was thirty, You guys are
late twenties. You're probably middle twenties. I was twenties for
your early twenties. Okay, well I was thirty. I think
when I started her about to be something. But but
that's young, and you have all this on your plate,
(33:01):
so I think you have to be serious.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
There's like a real intention. There's an intensity to it
for me.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Would I think that if I were to do it now,
I think I'd have a lot more fun with.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
Well, of course it would be light and day different.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
I would be like, they're so cute together. You'd be
all over Billy like that.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Well, so good to see you guys as always. Yeah,
super fun.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
The next episode, you guys, is called Bye Bye Billy,
So I'm curious what is that going to mean?
Speaker 5 (33:31):
What does that mean? Where's it going?
Speaker 4 (33:34):
We're in the like third trimester of season one.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
That's where your ankles are so.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
Swollen, the third trimester.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Well, well you guys soon, Thanks again for tuning in,
don't forget to subscribe and download, and we'll see you
next time on.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Still the Place and we'll see you for the Morrow's minute.
Bye everyone,
Hosts And Creators
Laura Leighton
Daphne Zuniga
Courtney Thorne-Smith
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