December 4, 2025 • 52 mins
On today’s episode, Jason discusses why the Milwaukee Bucks need to do everything they can to trade Giannis Antetokounmpo ahead of the NBA Trade Deadline in February, Later, FOX Sports Wagering Expert and host of the 'Bear Bets' podcast, Chris Fallica, swings by to discuss College Football Championship Weekend, the Notre Dame vs Miami (FL) debate as it pertains to the College Football Playoff, whether Vanderbilt quarterback Diego Pavia should be the betting favorite to win the Heisman Trophy, and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
What is up?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Straight Fire?
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Pay up, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight oh year or Thursday,
December fourth, Oh my goodness, great Thursday night football game
tonight Detroit Dallas. We already talked about it earlier in
the week. I'm on the Cowboys plus three like it
a lot. I do think the over could be in play,
but unfortunately we're not going to dig into that much
(00:34):
because we have a great guest today, Chris Fialka, college
football dude talking about Miami versus Notre Dame had a
beat championship weekend. So you'll enjoy that interview. It's about
thirty five minutes, high quality stuff. He even throws in
some NFL bets, sorry NBA bets and NFL bets. You'll
love it. But real quick, I haven't chopped it up
with Rob g in a minute. So as we record
(00:55):
this the middle of Wednesday afternoon, the news just broke
a few hours ago from and anybody paying attention could
have seen this coming. The loss to Washington by the
Bucks this week pretty much broke the camel's back. Chams
is reporting that, and I think I guess Brian Winhurst
was on this as well.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
In some capacity.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Jannis and his agent have started conversations with the Bucks
about his future, whether his best fit is staying or elsewhere.
A resolution is expected in the coming weeks. Now that
sounds goofy because you lose to Washington with Jannis, and
Washington was a two win team. That's humiliating. The Bucks
are not very good. They're on the outside of the playoffs.
(01:37):
There's no path to them winning. I think they're one
in five when he doesn't play, They're just a talent.
You we could see this coming a mile away. But
this is my hot take, and I don't even think
this is that hot of a take. The Bucks need
to move Jannis before the deadline. Do not wait until
next summer. The price will go down, the market of
teams will go down. Now, obviously a huge wrinkle here
(02:00):
would be if Janna said I only want to go
to the Knicks. I don't see that happening. He's not
that kind of guy. I'm sure the Knicks would be
at the forefront. But you're telling me pat Riley can't
sell Giannis on South Beach. I don't think Giannis would
go to OKC. The Thunder, the best team in the league,
defending champs, best record, draft AMMO. As of right now,
the Thunder would have two top ten picks coming to them,
(02:22):
and they've got young guys. They can't pay all those
guys Casan Wallace Caruz, so they can't keep everybody.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
I mean, the OKAC Thunder is.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Sitting in a great spot, and I know that nobody
wants to talk about it, but I do believe the
Lakers could get in the mix. Hey, uh, Bucks, how
badly do you want to clean up your books?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Right?
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Obviously you want as big of a haul for Giannice
as you can get. It would be nice to get
a bunch of picks, but not a lot of the
contenders have picks. It'd be decent to get players. I mean,
you want Karl Anthony Towns.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Is there a world where the Milwaukee Bucks say, yeah,
we would take Lebron and then we're out of the
Lebron business after this year we start to clean up
our books, which they did the Miles Turner deal. Fine,
they did the waven stretch for Damon Lillard, so they're
gonna be a mess anyway. The problem is what is
their path back to becoming a factor in the East.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
This was the year they could have made a run.
They tried it, they gave it their best effort. Remember,
Celtics are down. Pacers who were Game seven of the Finals,
are not even gonna make the playoffs. The Knicks are there,
the Pistons.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
I don't think.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Everybody's a believer. I think you gotta move Giannis at
the deadline. And I'll tell you right now. Toronto Raptors
are one of the hottest teams in the league. They
play the Lakers tonight. They've got some young talent. I
personally don't think much of the Raptors, but the reality
is they are actually a good young team with some
young talent. Does Giannis want to go there and be
(03:50):
you know, the Kawhi Leonard if you will, the way
Kawhi parachuted in and won a title. I mean, I
don't think so, but I think any discussion for Yanna obviously,
both the Knicks, obviously, both the heat I think the
Toronto Raptors who got I mean, listen, Minue. They got
some good young dudes, like quickly showing well Scottie Barnes obviously,
I mean they got six guys averaging.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
In double figures. So I'll turn it to you, Rob.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I would say there's three or four teams in the
mix for you, honest, I will put the Lakers out there,
obviously lebron thing.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
People will scoff at that. That's fine. I don't give
a shit.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
The reality is everybody who thinks they've got any shot
at Yannis gets in the mix at the deadline.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
But that does not happen in the summer.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Big facts.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
Yeah, if you believe that your team has even a
five percent chance of getting honest, you submit your offer,
like before this podcast even airs. Like you send the
text out and say, Hey, what's it gonna take to
get him to the Orange and Blue? What's gonna take
to get him here down the South, what's gonna take
to get him alongside? Look, whatever your team is, you
make the call immediately because guys like him historically do
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not come around very often. If you exclude the Luca Tree,
because that happened the dead of night. That happened between
two guys who had a handshake deal that nobody else
knew about. When you have guys of this caliber becoming available,
the feeding frenzy is out of this world.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
And for good reason.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
Look, Giannis, I know they haven't had a lot of
playoff success since that championship. I think get three straight
one and dones actually, but a lot of it was
either number one Yannis was hurt, Number two Middleton was hurt,
and most recently Lillard was hurt. So you had some
combination where they limped into the postseason, they get their
doors blown off, usually by the Miami heat, and then
you kind of almost forget how good Yiannis is until
(05:32):
the regular season starts the next year and you're like,
oh shit, like this guy's the real deal. Yannis just
looking at his Wikipedia page right, Rookie of the Year,
Defensive Player of the Year, two time MVP, NBA champion,
NBA Finals MVP, was basically a All NBA first teamer forever.
You know, like, as long as he wants to play
and he's in criteria, he's gonna get All NBA first Team.
(05:55):
So if you have a chance to get him, you
don't wait till the summer. You don't wait until Milwaukee
has time to really sit down and kind of sales
pitch this thing, or do whatever they can do to
try to convince him and sign another one of his
brothers or sign his cousin, whatever they can do to
keep him happy. No, you got to strike while the
iron is hot, and to your go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Well, I was gonna say the stroke. I weren't in
lockstep here before the deadline. But Rob, the only argument
to wait is that this draft is loaded. There's like
three or four, maybe five potential stars.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
I mean, I like Peterson.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
I hear people saying he looks like Kobe, Like that's
a bridge too far from me, the kid from Kansas
who's been out with a hamstring. But is there a
world where you wait to see who gets the number
one pick?
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Based on that?
Speaker 3 (06:42):
You say, we want the number one pick. We'll take
on bad contracts just so we get a young potential
star in the mix.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
I mean the kid Boozer a duke is very good.
It's a loaded draft. That would be the only argument
for waiting. Would you agree, Yes?
Speaker 6 (07:00):
But here's the thing is, I don't believe the Milwaukee
Bucks are like the Los Angeles Clippers, where you know,
earlier in the day there was a big hullablu about
Chris Paul getting dumped in the middle of the night,
two thirty in the morning, Eastern because they thought he
was too much like Chris Paul for their liking at
this stage in his career, and he was too you know, needy,
and all kinds of things like that.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
And I don't believe that.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
The Bucks are like the Clippers, whe they're gonna be
cut through by any means necessary, where they're gonna disrespect
a franchise icon, like Blake Griffin back in the day,
and like Chris Paul earlier on Wednesday. I could see
them saying, Giannis, we want to keep you first and foremost.
We're gonna do whatever we can to keep you. We'll
we'll try to talk you in, We'll do whatever we
have to do, but if you are how bent on leaving,
we will do our best to get you where you
(07:41):
want to go. Because he means that much to that franchise,
He means that much to that city, And so I
could see him saying, obviously, I want to go to
the Knicks. That's my first preference. I think he's made
that clear over the summer. But if you're gonna open
it up, here's a list of five or six teams
I would be willing to entertain.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Do you think Memphis tries to pedal Jah Morant to
the Bucks.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Probably, I'm sure the Bucks will.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Just be like, yeah, that's a hard pass. The problem
with Yannis, let me just check. Hey, he's thirty right,
I think he's thirty one.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
So that's the thing. This is a turn thirty one
this week.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Okay, So this is not easy, Rob, Are you giving
up the number one pick to get Yanis? Because the
number one pick is going to be eight, nineteen or twenty,
You're gonna have him for a long ass time. He's
maybe your guy for the next ten fifteen years Yannis,
I would.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Guess three more prime years, maybe four.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
When you put it that way, I don't know if
I would rather have Like it's Janis bringing let's just
say the Kings get the tight get the number one pick.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Okay. Even if you get.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Yannis and you can dump off zak Levine or whoever
you want on load, there's no infrastructure there for a title,
is there. So I don't know if it if it's
as easy as hey. With some of these bad teams,
they want to take a chance on you to build
around you quickly, Like I don't know that.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
But he's not in a position to say I'm not
going to freakin' Charlotte. It's not gonna work.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Like, hey, LaMelo ball, I don't want to play with
Brandon Miller and Bridges.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
So I don't know. Maybe you're right, Maybe it is
just the Knicks.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Carl Anthony gets it done, Karl Anthony Towns all the
picks you've got, and I don't know who else balances
it out. I'm not giving up Josh Hart Bridge. I'm
not giving up the farm for you.
Speaker 6 (09:30):
I mean, it's basically I think with the contract, i'mbout
have to do a deep dive into this, you know,
later on after we record. I think you can kind
of do it with cat and picks, like just numbers wise,
I think the salaries match up.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
The Bucks fans would just be outraged.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
Sure, and that and and that's why I think if
you're in Milwaukee said, I don't want Carl Anthony Towns,
give me Anenobian Bridges or give me Annobeen Hart or
something like that.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
You know what I mean, Like Anobian Bridge, that's that's
that's your wing defense exactly.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
You got to give to get, you know, I mean,
unless you're the Lakers, you don't get Superstar for nothing.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
They got Luca.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Oh well, they give up Bax Christy instead of Austin
Like that is unbelievable. Yeah, this is a tough spot
for the Bucks. You know, I'm assuming they would like
to send him west and as opposed to the East.
The problem is like there's no easy landing spot. I mean, like,
I don't see how the Nuggets could get involved. They
have to part with like Jamal Murray or something like that.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
They're not doing that.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I don't see how you get him to partner with Wemby.
Are people trying to workshop trades on that front?
Speaker 6 (10:30):
Oh, I'm sure they are. I mean that they were
trying to do that before the draft. Remember when they
had the number two pig. I said, hey, you have
a guy right now in Wemby who we all believe
and when you can win big, now make the trade
for Giannest And they never even thought about it.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
So you'd have to give up like Castle and s
Barnes and whatever the salaries are. Yeah, everybody wants to
avoid giving up the young guys who somebody speculated Minnesota,
you give up go Bear and you partner Giannis and
and Anthony Edwards. What am I doing with go Beart.
I'd rather take Carl and think Towns is supposed to
go Bear.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Yeah, I mean I would, But at would they do?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
That is the question?
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Who?
Speaker 6 (11:11):
Like would Minnesota like if you're a team, No, I mean, like,
excuse me, if you're Milwaukee to Minnesota, where you say, hey,
we'll take Gobert.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
No, if you're giving.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
Up Beyanness, you're not going to get one hundred cents
on the dollar. You're probably not going to get the
original Kdie Phoenix package where you get like four first
round picks. I don't think that's on the cards anymore. No,
with the way the new salary cap is, so you're
gonna say, hey, we'll take two or three veteran players
who we think can make us competitive now, or we're
(11:42):
going to take all the young players and hope four
or five years from now we're competitive.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
I would take picks and middling players.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
How about this? This is spicy.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
So I don't know if you noticed, but the Atlanta
Hawks are better defensively, and you could argue better overall
with Trey Young down. I can't imagine that the Bucks
would want Trey Young. But Trey Young another salary that
kind of if I can get a congoo, I'm taking
him in a heartbeat, and whatever picks you can cobble together.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Is that something you'd want again? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
You want to see Jannis in the East? What four
times a year?
Speaker 6 (12:16):
I'll tell you what if it comes down to something
like that, I wouldn't be surprised if Milwaukee says, how
about instead of you sending us Trey for Yannis, you
send us Trey and we'll give you other things instead.
And we say we try, we try to salvage this
Yana situation. Hey, yan Is, we didn't work with Dames Like,
here's straight.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Oh, we'll take Trey Young, you take all our pooty exactly.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
I'll tell you what. Since we've been recording, I've been
on the trade machine trying figure out ways to get
Yanis at Lakers. There's a few that I like. I mean,
obviously they'll have to adjust them a little bit. But
is there a scenario number one where there's a three
team trade where Yannis goes to La Lebron goes to
Golden State, and some package of kaminga, pajem Ski and
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Expire contracts goes to Milwaukee.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Yeah? Did we do that in the summer. We may have.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
So the Warriors are kind of struggling. They don't look
like a top six team. Curry's been hurt a lot.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Interesting, I think they're in the mix. Yeah, so it's
gonna be an exciting Fibruary.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Right after the Super Bowl, rob right into NBA trade
deadline and Giannis craziness. All right, without further ado, let's
get to our guest, Chris Filika from Big Noon Kickoff
and the Bare Bets Podcast.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
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Speaker 2 (13:48):
I know what sports dance wants.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
But for everything he doesn't. He knows a guy who does.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Let's just say I know a guy who knows the
guy who knows another guy.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
All right, let's welcome back to Straight Fire, a college
football fixture for the last couple decades. He's on Big
Noon Kickoff, He's got the Bare Bets Podcast, Chris Felika.
He is also a long suffering Jets fan we'll save
the Jets for the very end of the pod about
whether he wants Simpson or Mendoza or neither, and how
good the Sauce Gardner trade is looking now. But anyways,
(14:19):
let's start with college football. That's your wheelhouse, Chris. Obviously
you are off to the Big Ten championship game this
week should be a good one. I don't know why
don't we start with the college football playoffrankings. Let's do
that because you're a Miami guy and a lot of
chatter online about Miami versus Notre Dame, with some BYU
in there. I think we both agree with b why
(14:41):
he's not gonna win. And then there's Alabama. But first
of all, any surprises for you in the college football
rankings reveal on Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I was a little surprised that they moved All miss up.
I don't know if that was confirmation of when Charlie
Weist junior said he was going back to call plays.
I didn't quite get it. I think All Missus resume
is a little bit flimsy. I don't think there as
good as Texas A and M and I don't think
they're I certainly don't think there as good as Oregon,
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but that that was interesting to see Ole Miss get
get moved up the spot, which which was fine. I
don't mind them going to the playoff. It would have
been a big time screw job how they gotten eliminated
the I guess the biggest thing that I'm surprised about overall,
besides the fact that the Miami Notre Dame flip hasn't
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happened yet, it is in relation to how that sec
head to head to head, uh, the the old miss
over Oklahoma over Alabama, how that is held true and
how nine and three Texas beats a ten and two uh, Vanderbilt.
They have the head to head there and that's held true.
(15:53):
But the only hold head to head that still hasn't
who was the one where Miami didn't trail in the
game that they beat Notre Dame had dead? So it
is interesting thing. I think if you look at the
Alabama going over Notre Dame last night, I think that
was probably a little while coming. It's based on resumes
power ratings. Obviously Notre Dame is better, but the resumes
Alabama's got a bunch of top thirty Sagarin wins and
(16:16):
Notre Dame only has the one over the two rather
USC and then I think it was one of the
pit one too. I think it's top thirty. But yeah,
well we'll see what happens on Saturday, and Sunday should
be a wild day.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
So the Old Miss one's interesting.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
So do you think they stick at six because I
guess Alabama could pass them, but then maybe Georgia falls back.
I don't know, because if you're at six Ole Miss,
you definitely want the three seed.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
The three seed would be more valuable than the two seed, right, Yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
You're getting a home game against the eleven seed, which
could be Miami, could be Notre Dame, and you'll probably
be an underdog on your home field. That's the case.
But they can't see Georgia falling below Ole Miss. That
being that they did beat them head to head. Could
see Alabama jumping them from wherever they are now nine
to nine to six. That could happen. Uh. That's why
(17:07):
I don't necessarily feel like there are a lot of
markets out there where you can lock in certain seedings
and such. But the way that you see the SEC
Championship game, it could affect things like you could lock
in all the misses A succeeed right now. You could
lock in Oklahoma as an eight. You can lock in
all the missus A seven, but you don't know that
result that if Alabama win, they're gonna go up over
over a lot of them. But the one thing I
(17:29):
do feel fairly certain of that I know you are
not in the same school of fault that I am,
is if Texas Tech does beat BYU second second time,
it should it should be when it's twelve and a
half five, that would be a second it is, And
that's what it was in the first meeting as well.
And I'm not sure Chase Roberts, BYU's best wide receiver
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is going to play. UH. Tech left a lot of field,
a lot of points in the field in that first game.
I think if that does happen, Texas Tech beats b
YU for a second time, I think that's the Miami
Notre Dame flip finally going to happen, because No BYU
would fall behind Miami Notre Dame in Miami would be
right side to side. And that's when in the room
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all those ex coaches and ex administrators can finally come
together and say, Miami did beat Notre Dame in the
head to head. It has to matter for something. And
there's been a lot of good information out there about
going back in college football playoff era, about teams with
identical records and Power four leagues, about how the team
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that won the head to head was always ranked ahead
of the team that lost the head to head in
the final ranking, and that would mean would mean that
Miami would ultimately go ahead of it. It reminds me
a lot of I believe it was twenty fourteen where
Baylor beat TCU. A lot of people felt after that
(18:54):
game TCU was the better team, and then TCU was
ranked ahead of Baylor basically like every week after that,
and then finally in the last week, TCU fall behind
Baylor because Baylor did win the head dead and they
finally honored the head dead. So I think that's where
we're heading, But I get it. The biggest issue for
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me is that this should not be a Notre Dame
Miami debate. It should be Notre Dame in Miami in
and we should debating which of the Oklahoma Ole Missus
Alabama's that are inn because if you look at Power ratings,
like it's clear that Miami and Notre Dame are stronger
in terms of that rating. It's just this narrative of
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sec building up wins against top thirty teams in terms
of like said Auburn, Nole, miss Can, I'm not all
miss Auburn, Tennessee, Missouri? Who else is South Carolina? Team
teams in that category that aren't necessarily great wings. But
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then on the flip you look at Miami, people say, oh,
they lost to two one ranked teams, They're terrible. SMU
is ranked higher and Saga in the Tennessee. But yet
that's a bad loss a conference road game in overtime.
Louisville's twenty seven, which is two spots higher than South Carolina,
who Alabama nearly lost to. So I do think the
flip is gonna happen, and I would not pay ultimately
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that much attention to the betting odds because I don't
think the algorithms that these sportsbooks can really take into
account human factor, human emotion, human decision making. All it
sees is that Miami and Notre Name are not playing
this week, and it can't really figure out that there's
a vote involved here at the end, and that it
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affects on other results. As well if you go back
a couple of years. And I only know this because
I was very strongly in that the Alabama and Texas
should both be in. The prices on Florida State to
make the field that year were massive minuses, and the
prices on Alabama to make the field were massive pluses.
And that was a field day for me because I
really knew, just having an understanding of how this system worked,
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what was going to happen. So if you're a Miami
fan out there, don't give up hope. And if you're
a Notre Dame fan, I think your best path in
would be a big Georgia Wayne over Alabama to give
Alabama a third loss and maybe give the committee to
re examine their resume.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
So I don't know how the committee looks at the
season in total. I view it as like a kind
of two cars racing, right. So Miami beat Notre Dame
in the opener, they surge ahead, Notre Dame falls back,
Notre Dame f falls further back after the close lost
A and m But as the season goes on, you
inch up from Notre Dame's perspective, and then Miami starts dropping.
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When you lose as a double digit favorite at home
to Louisville. That's a big drop. Then you lose again
as a double digit favorite. I guess a good smuteam,
but I think the line was ten and a half
or eleven something like that. So you're losing and Notre
Dame is just obliterating everyone, so they keep moving up.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Is now past Miami.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yes, the head to head matters, but that was again
one hundred days ago practically, and now we're at the
point it's like, okay, so we still think.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Miami is behind Notre Dame.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Miami's behind BYU, but then you remove BYU and suddenly
Miami's better. When none of the ACC teams in the
championship played Miami this season, the only thing, the only
thing I can see movement is Notre Dame gets a
small bump. If Boise wins on Friday, I don't thinking,
but it's an actual result, like it's a data point
that hey, oh they beat Poise.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Bois's not trash.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
They won the MWC, which is better than nothing, right,
that's got to be worth something, right.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I mean, it would probably help them as a minute,
like in straight the schedule, it might help them look
a little bit better, but this isn't a great Boise team.
And I don't think I agree.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
I don't think agree, I don't.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
I don't think that ultimately will do it. I just
am basing it on committee habits, committee history, and once
you remove by you from the from the equation, and
I think BYU is there kind of a buffer between
the two that will.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Get people talking.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Maybe you hit on that right there. This is a
TV show and they are making it up as they
go along. I am not saying that the Committee and
ESPN are in cahoots, but I think the Committee is
putting off making a definitive decision for as long as possible.
The one thing I will say at Miami's biggest crime
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is that they lost the conference road game in overtime
three days before the first college football Playoff rankings. They
were anchoring the initial ranking at the lowest possible point.
I think at that time there was probably a little
bit of a narrative and a little bit of a
belief from the Committee that Miami would just lose again
and who could blame them? Honestly, Miami had been four
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to eleven in games in November or later under Crystal.
Weal sure they were going to lose either at Pitt
or Virginia Tech Day. They're absolutely, but then a funny
thing happened. They're actually playing their best ball of the year.
And if you look at a lot of the top
four or five since that loss, in terms like you
hard to play, differential points per drive, differential number one sack,
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differential complete two percentage touchdown passes the number one. So
they are clicking right now on all cellars, and I
think that really is causing the committee to kind of
re examine things. And I get it from a Notre
Dame standpoint, like having the rug pulled out from Undie,
you kind of sucks.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Yeah, it seems a little goofy.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Well, I understood.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
I was with you on the Florida state. I didn't
think they deserve to be in I was one hundred percent.
Now I didn't bet it. But now with your logic,
are you advising hurricane fans to go bet there?
Speaker 4 (24:44):
I mean yes, yeah, I think I have.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
And I have been because I could. I brought this
up on Big Noon three weeks ago about how this
ultimately was going to play out where you Miami needed
BYU to lose and there was someone else was in
either utah to lose and they did, or they looked
bad and fell behind. Like b it was that you
could see the path and from Notre Dame. And you
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have to draw a distinction here, like best power reading teams,
best teams. Notre Dame is one of them, so is Miami.
The resume for Notre Name is kind of flimsy, like
you look, their case for the playoff is, oh, we
lost two close games to two top ten teams and
now we're better. Okay, Well, I.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Think they beat everybody by double digits right the rest
of the way.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
I believe that they the game the game against BC
was twelve ten late in the third quarter, was under
a minute to go against a BC team that was
one and seven at the time, and then they wound
up up winning. I believe it was twenty five to ten.
But when you're hanging your hat on that and then oh,
we're better now, well Miami's better now too.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Now what way are they?
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Wait then in the beginning of the season, yes, unquestionably, despite.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
The two losses, as did your favorites.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Right now, as they are, they are better. They had
like six daughters down in the SMU game. So I
mean that doesn't get really brought up and I'm not
going to rely on that as a clutch. That still
should have won the game. But that game, they had
eight new defensive starters with a first time defensive coordinator,
Malachai Toni, a true freshman. It was his first career game.
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He's now turned in he's the ACC Freshman of the Year.
He's turned into one of the most dynamic players in
college football. Gerard Pringle didn't play it down in that game.
Another freshman who is now there go to running back.
They are a different team, a better team now too
than what they were earlier in the year.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
So I mean Notre Dame was starting to quarterback his
first big time start in the rain on the road.
So again, like there's no right answer, let me ask
you this, is there a world where Miami and Notre
Dame both get in and the committee pulls the rug
out from us someone else?
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yes? I think there is. I think if Alabama were
to lose and lose.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Or something okay in.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Soiling, yeah, I think that may. While I don't, I
think it'd be extremely hard for them to knock the
knock a team that played in the SEC title game
out because they want to continue these title games and
they want to value them. But at the same time,
Alabama hasn't played good football in a month. Alabama nearly
lost to South Carolina, probably should have lost in South
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Carolina very easily, could have lost last week at Jordan
Hair blowing a big league turn the ball over three times,
and an embarrassing loss at home to Oklahoma kind of
slug past LSU a little bit. Ty Simpsons really struggled lately.
Oh turned the ball out a bunch.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
The Oklahoma game was a rough one for it.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah, gaated by two hundred yards somehow.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
When they lose the game, you could argue that, like
everybody's given one mulligan, right, you don't have a good game,
I mean Miami had you could I guess the Louisville game, right,
double digit think coronovers exactly that you would probably use
that as the mulligan if you were Alabama.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Hey man, the gauntlet it's tough.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
I mean, Materier was garbage coming off the injury against Texas, right,
and everyone other than Ohio State I should I should say, yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
And the thing about Alabama you talked about the Oklahoma
game being their mulligan. They've got the worst loss of
any of these contenders. They lost at five and seven
Florida States, Right, really really game.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
That was the first game of the season too, right, Wow?
Speaker 2 (28:23):
So yeah, and so was Miami Notre Dame. So what
he was going to eliminate eliminate the first week of
the season from County.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
I think you're right.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Both teams are dramatically different. I mean, Ohio State Texas
like Texas. If you do that rematch, I mean it
spread certainly under a touchdown, right, I mean that's that's
a hell of it. And so I don't know. The
whole relying on a head to head in week one
or two to me just strikes as like you said,
teams can't get better and improve. Yeah, it's a crappy situation.
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I mean, somebody's gonna get screwed here. I mean, you
make up a strong argument that maybe it is Notre
Dame to get shafted.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Yeah, they were in the title game last year.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
I would argue, if you know, if they're if they're
facing in the second, you know, if they're facing Old
Miss followed by Indiana.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
I'm feeling confident. Notre Dame win in both of those so.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
And I feel confident about Miami and this is doing
the same that. That's why this is a very rare year. Yeah,
I was not pro expansion. I thought four was a
good number. I thought it should be hard and elite
to get into this thing.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Who would the four have been this year?
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Do we know? And that's the great question. Are you
gonna take all three teams from the Big ten? Because
in my recent power rank, oh, Ohio State, Indiana, Oregon one, two, three.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Oh wow, Now, now that's gonna get people pissed off
now that you're with Big Noon, would you have.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Or I'm glad you brought that up. I'm hm, we
can't get thought about that. Oregon's defense is fantastic, and
they're gonna get to Corey and Moore back, They're gonna
get Brian back, They're gonna get their offensive line healthy.
The Committee likes to talk about the best, most complete teams.
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And in the midst of my sitting around on Sunday
afternoon having my eyes burned while having jeffs Falcons on
the TV, I started doing a bunch of sorts and
a bunch of filters, and I was like, okay, best,
best and best, most complete, most deserving. Okay, let's take
a look teams that are in the top thirty and
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straight the schedule. Teams that have a top twenty offense
and a top twenty defense in terms of efficiency, Teams
that are in the top nine of saggarin FPI and
SP plus power ratings, best teams sos I believe give
a tough schedule, and then top ten in game control,
which is I test numerical representation of the eye test
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and dominance of a team. There are two teams that
meet all four of those criteria. Number one is Oregon
and number two is Miami. It's pretty and I wasn't.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Wait, Ohio State's not in there.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Ohio State schedule is like outside the top fifty, so
that's yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
What what about india other schedule as well?
Speaker 2 (31:09):
The Indiana's schedule is bad too, So.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
How did Oregon schedule so much more difficult?
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Oregon has had a bunch of road games against top
twenty Sagarin teams. Washington was a road game against the
top twenty sagarin Iowa was Penn State. Still, despite the
six and six record, is a top twenty Sagarin team
and then they had Indiana, so they had four teams
in the top eighteen of Sagarin, three on the road,
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so that kind of offset the poor non conference schedule
that they had. So it is interesting that the two
teams that kind of met the criteria for these most complete,
most dominant best Oregon in Miami, based on a little
bit of schedule adjustment. So we'll see what happens.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Wow. All right, so final, let's see hypothetical Alabama beat Georgia.
I have bet Alabama two and a half. I know
a lot of people like Georgia.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
That's fine.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Then I would assume Georgia falls out of three. For
Indiana loses to Ohio State, they fall out. Let's say
Texas Tech wins, so it goes to Ohio State one,
Texas Tech two, Oregon three.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
I don't think they'd move Oregon ahead of Indiana just
because Indiana went to Oregon and went one.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Mine.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Okay, I think.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
You'd have Indiana three, and then the debate for four
would be either Oregon or move Alabama all the way
up to four over Georgia and the rest of the
SEC club.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
All right, let's get down to the games Indiana, Ohio State.
I'm on the Buckeyes here minus four and a half.
I think if you like the Buckeyes, you probably should
bet Julian Saying to win the Heisman right now.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
I just I love Mendoza.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
I really like him, Chris, I'm worried about him and
is a tough spot for the kid. I say kid,
but he's you know, a double business mode to graduate
school degrees already. I like him as a pro. I
just think this is a difficult spot for him. I'm curious,
do you think there's any home field advantage.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
If you will for uh, no, for the Hoosiers. Okay,
it will be.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
It will be. It will be a large abound of
Buckeye fans.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Way, so the only argument would be Buckeyees fans know, hey,
we got to save up for the national semifinal and
the championship because we're going I don't know that Indiana
fans would do that. And what are the next time they're.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Going to be in the Big Ten championship game?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
You know, that is the biggest concern I have. In
the last part part of what you said, this is
like the crowning moment for Indiana. When are they ever
going to get an opportunity to go thirteen to zero,
win the Big Ten Championship, be the number one seed
in the College Football Playoff, that it would be number
ranked number one in the country, and the eight people like,
when is that going to happen again? And you couple
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that with Ohio state emotional win beyond belief last week. Exhale,
you finally beat Michigan. Now you gotta go play this
game knowing that win or lose the Big Ten Championship game,
you're getting a first round by You're the ranning national champion.
You're gearing up to put your focus on repeating as
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national champion. So the emotional kind of is it a
lightdown spot for Ohio State. That would have me a
little concerned, But I still think they're better. I worry
about Indiana's ability to run the ball against good team.
You look at Indiana's their running game really makes things
go against their bigger name opponents. This year, they kind
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of struggled running the ball, and I'm not sure if
that happens. If Mendoza, despite that final drive that he
had against Penn State, if he can really carry this
team on his back to win over sixty minutes against
a defense that hasn't allowed more than sixteen points all year.
So yeah, I laid three and a half a couple
of weeks ago on the headline, on the look aheadline,
expecting this to run out to six or six and
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a half and be able to potentially buy a little
bit back in Indiana did not. And the fact that
this keeps coming down. If you like India, if you
like Ohio State, he might just want to wait a
little bit longer because there's a there's a good chance
this hits four, maybe even comes back to three and
a half.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Yeah, it feels like a public dog a little bit.
And drilled down on that Oregon game because I you know,
it's that happened a while ago. So Oregon had a
turnover on downs, missed the field goal, and through two
interceptions in their own end. Yes, like that was a
and I know the defense showed well for Indiana and
and more More had his worst game in the season,
but it was pretty clearly like, Hey, I don't want
to say they got a gift, but Oregon did everything
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wrong in that game. It felt like I don't I
don't see OHI to stake beating themselves. But you had
a reaction to say and to win the Heisman? Where
are you on that heisman?
Speaker 2 (35:37):
I think there is a case to be made for Diego.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Pavia Vanderbilt kid.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
I did not necessarily think this two weeks ago, but
having sat and thought about it, the way the Heisman
voting is constructed, it is all regional. There's no other
candidate in the SEC in the Southeast. Povey is going
to get essentially every first place vote.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Nott region, Georgia does. Georgia does not have any not
the running back Oklahoma materrms. Too many games arts can't
get in.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
Oh my gosh, wow.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Okay, So he's gonna be the SEC guy. He's going
to be named on every ballot and probably in first
on a majority, if not nearly every ballot. He's probably
gonna get a lot of the West Coast votes. People
are going to remember him from being in New Mexico
State and familiarity there. Mendoza saying, Jeremiah love Midwest Big ten.
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They're probably going to cancel a lot of each other's
votes out now. I think it's Ohio State wins, saying
will probably get a lot of first place votes, but
he hasn't. People like I don't necessarily think it's wholly true,
entirely true, or it's mandatory. People like to talk about,
oh he didn't have a Heisman moment. He's a really
good player, but the fact that Ohio's state season has
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been so drama less, he hasn't been in a massively
difficult spot. Now you could say, I guess on the
road down six nothing in ann Arbor last week, ye
touchdown touchdown pass to Smith, the touchdown pass to Tate,
that that that would be it. But I think there's
an avenue for for Diego Pobby to win if Ohio
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State wins a big team, if.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
The voting blocks are interesting. Who's favored right now? Honestly,
I haven't bet it.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Mendoze is favorite, and I think if if Indiana wins,
I think Mendoza will ultimately Yeah. So, but that wager
is really incorporating Ohio State. If you're looking to bet uha, I.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Like that regional angle.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
That's good because it is the vote. It comes down
to the voters, and listen to some of.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
The just to let people who are listening out there.
I don't vote in this thing I have no I
can't be influencing anything with a specific vote. I can
just put information in my thought out there.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
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Speaker 3 (38:08):
I'll be honest, I don't think Sayan's been the best
player in the country, but this is what we do
for awards now, NBA, NFL, are you the best player
on the best team, Let's give it to him.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
Right, Drake may might win the NFL MVP.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
There's no way he's the best player in the league.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
No way.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
That is a market that I think is wide open
right now to bet it could. Yeah, I don't know who.
I don't know if I should be betting Dak. I
don't know if I should be betting someone else, Like
the Colts. Coults are gonna miss the playoffs, I think,
so you're not gonna give it to Jonathan Taylor, no
JSN like Sam Darnold, that's not gonna connelp you like
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he's gonna continue to fall down, Like who's it gonna
be after that? Like I think Dak at like eleven
or twelve to one right now, if the Cowboys were
to win that division and rip off about what eight
eight straight wins to end the year, he's gonna have
a great case.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Did you look at their last five? They might go
five and oh if they beat the Lions here Thursday.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Yeah, oh yeah. I actually bet George Pickens last week
at one hundred and fifty to one to the offensive
player of the year.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
No way, wow.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
I bet the Cowboys at ten to one to win
the division.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
Wait, wait, wait, let me look.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Let me see what I can find on Dak MVP
right now, because that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Yeah, I think he's eleven to one or twelve to one, or.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
It could be dead Friday morning. If they lose to
the Lions is dead. But I've already bet them against
the Lions. I don't know where you are on that game.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
I think the guy like the Cowboys in the game too,
and I hate being prisoner of the moment, but right
now they're better. The Lions have a ton offensive line injuries,
and now I'm going to catch the ball like I
was highing the Lions at the start of the year.
But hey, give me give the Cowboys credit. The trades
that they made have panned out for him.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
So here we go.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Dak plus thirteen forty five.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
That is not bad.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Win. If they beat the Lions, that's gonna be seven
to one.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
So I think you gotta I'll take that.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
I'll take some Jordan love as well. I'm a believer
to get read here back shortly. And who's the other guy,
the other receiver? Matthew Golden Golden, Yes, Golden, who's been
a bit of a Disappointment'm sure you've seen the numbers.
All right, I got sidetracked. Let's go back to college,
pab We're good. Do you have anything on Alabama Georgia.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
I am concerned about liking Georgia here. I hate laying
two and a half. I hate laying numbers under a
field goal. But I just go back to that first meeting.
Alabama had a great first half and then Georgia ultimately
figured them out. Georgia's defense has gotten better. Georgia did
not have either of their starting offensive tackles in that game.
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They may not have starting center Drew Bobo in this game,
which could be a problem trying to block up Tip
Keenan upfront. Frasier. They running back only had four carries
because he fumbled, they got benched. Right, Alabama has not
been everything. Logically in my head says that Georgia is
the right side here to get revenge. But I'm having
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a hard time getting there. I went back and looked,
you know, from following my Twitter feed and stuff like,
if you favorites of three points are fewer in power
in conference title games the last five years, three and eleven.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Oh right up, straight up, Yeah, the market's telling you, hey,
we're not given three I know it's not home field,
but that I don't know who has homefield advantage.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
It is in the state.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Georgia maybe a little bit. But look at last year.
Texas was a two and a half point favorite in
this game, lost out right. SMU was a two and
a half point favorite against Clemson, lost out right. Iowa
State was a point and a half favorite against Arizona State,
got blown out. Louisville was favored over Florida State in
twenty twenty three with the with the backup quarterback game
lost so fourteen and twenty four all time, three and
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eleven the last five years.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Yeah, point, this one's out of left field. But Joel
Klett did say it on The Herd on Wednesday. He
said that he believes Penn State is circling a coach
who's still playing currently still in like the playoff mix,
and he was going through names and he said, what
about Kaylen Deboor. I was gobsmacked, and I'm thinking kayland Boor.
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First of all, he's a Sexton client, which sounds apparently
Sexton doesn't like Penn State.
Speaker 4 (42:20):
Now that's the rumor.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
I don't know what's up with that, but listen, I
know Kaylen de Boor probably doesn't love the reaction in
the Deep South, like they're ready to fire him after
the FSU lost. Then he's a hero because he beats Georgie.
It's a little goofy. I think Debor is awesome. I
would be floored if he went to Penn State. Your
thoughts on that and then the Penn State search.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
I would not be I would be surprised. I think
the path there is Alabama losing the SEC Championship game
and not making the College Football Playoff. I think that's
the path. If that were to happen, then Penn State
kind of gives him uh soft landing spot where hey
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parachute him. You want to deal with this anymore come
out and Tea appreciated it. I don't. I ultimately don't
think it will. I think I think Penn State really
thought that they were going to get Clownie Sataki. I
thought they felt like they were in a good position
to do so, and then Crumble Cookies came in and
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spoiled the party.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
So we wait, let's let's back up a sec this
whole Penn State firing. Are you of the belief that
when they got rid of Franklin they thought Signetti was
in the bag, because you have to have a game
plan when you run off somebody like that.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
No, I think it was I don't think they're regretting
firing James. I think they just it was just a
general like it was so toxic there amongst the fans
and his ability to win a big game and then
to completely fall apart again against U C. L A
and in Northwestern it was like, Okay, this is this
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is done. But I do think that they thought they
would be able to get one of the big names
in there, whether whether it was who rules Signetti, but who,
And now that they're not, I think they're just gonna
ultimate land on Terry Smith, an alum. No team has
been playing great. I don't know Brahm is staying at Louisville.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
I saw Heartline is going to us.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
That's a whiff, Heartlines going to us. FU me. Brian
Gables name has been out there.
Speaker 4 (44:29):
Yeah, what do you think of that?
Speaker 2 (44:32):
I mean, they had success with a with an offensive
pro and offensive coordinator pro coach before when they when
they brought in Bill Brian and then the lowest point
in the program's history.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
Christian Hackenberg days.
Speaker 4 (44:47):
I believe right.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
Oh, I was so excited when the Jets drafted Christian.
I thought we were I thought we were on our way.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
What about Dan Mullian. We had someone I'm not gonna
I don't want to call him out, who came on
the pod and uh I started asking a round about
Dan Mullen. They were like, apparently some shady stuff went
down at Florida that isn't public. I don't exactly know
what it was, but why isn't anybody kicking the Dan
Mullen tyres?
Speaker 2 (45:11):
I think probably. I mean, I wouldn't say year one
in EU n l V, but yeah, there must be
something there. I mean, I thought he did a good
job at Florida. He certainly a great coordinator as well.
How I would hire Dan and a hartbeat but maybe
just the behold, is he really gonna bolt on on
UNLV after one year? And I think he's kind of
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come out and said, I'm happy here, but hey, happiness
yeah haply you bring out, you bring up like check
ye have happiness? Change?
Speaker 4 (45:40):
All right?
Speaker 1 (45:41):
Final?
Speaker 3 (45:41):
When Texas Tech BYU twelve and a half, I'm seating
up to thirteen in some spots. Now you mentioned the
coach and the dalliance with Penn State, I would assume
they're locked in. It's tough to route a team twice
in a season, or maybe that's just a mind game
we tell ourselves.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
But by he's going to be am for this.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
Texas Tech knows it's clear and in onmadically best season
in program history.
Speaker 4 (46:03):
Is there a world where BYU dials.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
Up some interesting stuff here and they get the cover?
Speaker 2 (46:07):
I can't yeah, cover, I could see. I can't see
them winning at right. If you look at the Power
five championship history with double digit favorites, they're four and
thirty four, the underdogs are and the last twenty six
have lost.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
Out Right, you got to go back to twenty six
in a row six.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
Two thousand and five Florida State over Virginia Tech. And
the last five years there have been five double digit favorites,
all of them won by at least twenty points. So
I think they're up against it. The teams may change,
but the type of teams don't change. Just in what
I think I said earlier, like Chase Roberts, their best
wide receiver may not play. Tech left a lot of
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points on the board in that first meeting, and I
think just how good they are upfront in the trenches.
People think about Texas Tech and you think of Mike
Leach and offense and Patrick Mahomes in Kingsbury. This is
the number one ranked team the country in terms of
defensive defensive efficiency. They went hard in the portal on
defense on the defensive line there. They dominated the game
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in the first meeting, holding by You like two hundred
and forty yards. I think it was I just have
a hard time seeing by You managed to score enough
points there, even though it is not in Lubbock but
a neutral set. I would be very very surprised if
BYU won this game.
Speaker 3 (47:27):
All right, Well, we could wrap up I know you
love gambling. The Yannis situation that started to develop, he
and his agent have started conversations about departing Milwaukee. I'm
of the belief they need to do this deal before
the deadline. If you wait until the summer, I think
the pool of teams shrinks considerably. I don't. I mean, again,
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the Toronto Raptors are having.
Speaker 4 (47:49):
A crazy season.
Speaker 3 (47:50):
I doubt they would go all in for you, honest,
but I mean they did it for Kawhi and it
worked out. Any thoughts on Giannis and how you would
handle betting into that market.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Well, I mean apparently like the only team he said
he wants to go to was the Knicks.
Speaker 4 (48:03):
Right, that was earlier, but yes, that may still hold true.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
I mean I actually bet NBA Finals a straight result
Thunder over Knicks, OH Eastern twelfth to one. I mean,
the Eastern Conference is very, very weak. I mean, I
don't think any of those teams.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
Hey Detroit, put some respect on their name.
Speaker 4 (48:22):
Leak.
Speaker 3 (48:23):
Come on, Pistons, Look, Kate Cunningham's a star.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
I had Kate Cutt last year. I had a Pistons
win total over and I had Kate Cunningham most improved player.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
And wow, this is why I didn't even know you
bet NBA like that.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
I bet futures, Oh yeah, awards, awards and futures. I'll bet.
I don't know, night in and night out. No shot.
I've been loaded. My guy Will Hill, who we have
with the bar Bets Pod and does some writing for
Fox sports dot Com, we've been We've been betting the
Thunder from twenty five to one all the way down
to break the record to win seventy four games, and
(48:57):
I think as of today, I think it's now down
to five to one.
Speaker 3 (48:59):
So yeah, all right, and then the Jets, I say,
it looks like we I'm gonna say we are not
going to get Mendoza.
Speaker 4 (49:07):
I mean, hell, I think the Jets might beat the
Dolphins this weekend.
Speaker 3 (49:09):
Frankly, the weather looks like it's gonna be cold. I
don't I don't know.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
He all of a sudden love the Dolphins.
Speaker 4 (49:16):
Yeah, there's not much love.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
If anybody watched that Saints game, Oh my god, Toua
looks washed. Anyways, the Jets, I don't think they can
get Mendoza. Right, There's just too many quarterback needy teams
ahead of them. Raiders, Browns, Saints. However, is there another
quarterback you'd look at?
Speaker 4 (49:35):
Ty Simpson? Not not that early, but.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
The interesting name that if he comes out. We've seen
Dante More suddenly mocked in like the top five again, Like,
if he comes out, that that would be the guy
that I would be very interesting in potentially taking.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
But it doesn't seem like he's coming out right.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
Hey, if he's mocked in the top five, he's probably
got to come out right.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
Possibly.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
I know.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
I know Oregon and I know Nike. They got all
the money in the world out there to be able
to try and keep him. But I don't know. Wouldn't
wouldn't you, wouldn't you?
Speaker 4 (50:14):
I think he should come out.
Speaker 3 (50:15):
I just I'm not one hundred percent sure. Let me
give you a name that I think will rise up.
You're mister college football. You know all these boys, guys
Sawyer Robertson at Baylor. I keep hearing good things, huge arm,
multi year starter. You seem nonplus like a mid round pick.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
Yeah, yes, mid mid round, shot.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
Five, third, fourth, fifth, take a flyer.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
Exactly, That's what we're talking. Yeah, and nothing nothing earlier.
And then I think I think the Jets are probably
now in the position where where they're picking, you take
the best available player that you can, whether it's whomever,
if who along that.
Speaker 4 (50:55):
I don't love Caleb Downs. I love Caleb Downs, but
not that early. Sorry three someone.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
Like that at that reek. They have to happen to fall.
Maybe they're there. But the fact that you got seven
picks in the in the first couple of rounds the
next couple of years, that's where you go next year,
hopefully knock on wood. You've got a chance maybe to
take Julian saying you've got maybe an opportunity to take
Dante more if he comes back. I think arch we don't,
(51:22):
We don't know, we don't, we'll see. But I would
let all of the quarterback needy and greedy teams have
at it and just go for it.
Speaker 4 (51:32):
And would you trade up forre Mendoza. No, I wouldn't either.
Speaker 3 (51:36):
Let me ask you the other thing. So you mentioned
saying you're you're on the field, you're at the stadiums
I got to ask Julian, Sayan's listed at six to one.
He looks like he's maybe six one.
Speaker 4 (51:46):
No, no way, it's like sixtek tall.
Speaker 3 (51:48):
So you're taking Julian saying number one is six foot quarterback.
Speaker 2 (51:51):
Probably not no way. I know.
Speaker 3 (51:53):
I listen. I like him, he's great, you might win
the Heisman. I'm not taking him in the first round.
Speaker 4 (51:57):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (51:58):
No. And I think you've seen this struggles that Bryce
Young has had. His height has been a big problem,
I think, and successful.
Speaker 3 (52:07):
All Right, we could do this all day, but it's
got a real job. Chris FeliCa Bare Bets Podcast. He
will be on the ground, boots on the ground for
Indiana Ohio state.
Speaker 4 (52:17):
It should be. It should be a barn burner, Chris.
Speaker 3 (52:19):
You know, Happy holidays to you and the family.
Speaker 4 (52:21):
A good chatting up.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
Absolutely same teacher Meck
This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
What is up?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Straight Fire?
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Pay up, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight oh year or Thursday,
December fourth, Oh my goodness, great Thursday night football game
tonight Detroit Dallas. We already talked about it earlier in
the week. I'm on the Cowboys plus three like it
a lot. I do think the over could be in play,
but unfortunately we're not going to dig into that much
(00:34):
because we have a great guest today, Chris Fialka, college
football dude talking about Miami versus Notre Dame had a
beat championship weekend. So you'll enjoy that interview. It's about
thirty five minutes, high quality stuff. He even throws in
some NFL bets, sorry NBA bets and NFL bets. You'll
love it. But real quick, I haven't chopped it up
with Rob g in a minute. So as we record
(00:55):
this the middle of Wednesday afternoon, the news just broke
a few hours ago from and anybody paying attention could
have seen this coming. The loss to Washington by the
Bucks this week pretty much broke the camel's back. Chams
is reporting that, and I think I guess Brian Winhurst
was on this as well.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
In some capacity.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Jannis and his agent have started conversations with the Bucks
about his future, whether his best fit is staying or elsewhere.
A resolution is expected in the coming weeks. Now that
sounds goofy because you lose to Washington with Jannis, and
Washington was a two win team. That's humiliating. The Bucks
are not very good. They're on the outside of the playoffs.
(01:37):
There's no path to them winning. I think they're one
in five when he doesn't play, They're just a talent.
You we could see this coming a mile away. But
this is my hot take, and I don't even think
this is that hot of a take. The Bucks need
to move Jannis before the deadline. Do not wait until
next summer. The price will go down, the market of
teams will go down. Now, obviously a huge wrinkle here
(02:00):
would be if Janna said I only want to go
to the Knicks. I don't see that happening. He's not
that kind of guy. I'm sure the Knicks would be
at the forefront. But you're telling me pat Riley can't
sell Giannis on South Beach. I don't think Giannis would
go to OKC. The Thunder, the best team in the league,
defending champs, best record, draft AMMO. As of right now,
the Thunder would have two top ten picks coming to them,
(02:22):
and they've got young guys. They can't pay all those
guys Casan Wallace Caruz, so they can't keep everybody.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
I mean, the OKAC Thunder is.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Sitting in a great spot, and I know that nobody
wants to talk about it, but I do believe the
Lakers could get in the mix. Hey, uh, Bucks, how
badly do you want to clean up your books?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Right?
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Obviously you want as big of a haul for Giannice
as you can get. It would be nice to get
a bunch of picks, but not a lot of the
contenders have picks. It'd be decent to get players. I mean,
you want Karl Anthony Towns.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Is there a world where the Milwaukee Bucks say, yeah,
we would take Lebron and then we're out of the
Lebron business after this year we start to clean up
our books, which they did the Miles Turner deal. Fine,
they did the waven stretch for Damon Lillard, so they're
gonna be a mess anyway. The problem is what is
their path back to becoming a factor in the East.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
This was the year they could have made a run.
They tried it, they gave it their best effort. Remember,
Celtics are down. Pacers who were Game seven of the Finals,
are not even gonna make the playoffs. The Knicks are there,
the Pistons.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
I don't think.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Everybody's a believer. I think you gotta move Giannis at
the deadline. And I'll tell you right now. Toronto Raptors
are one of the hottest teams in the league. They
play the Lakers tonight. They've got some young talent. I
personally don't think much of the Raptors, but the reality
is they are actually a good young team with some
young talent. Does Giannis want to go there and be
(03:50):
you know, the Kawhi Leonard if you will, the way
Kawhi parachuted in and won a title. I mean, I
don't think so, but I think any discussion for Yanna obviously,
both the Knicks, obviously, both the heat I think the
Toronto Raptors who got I mean, listen, Minue. They got
some good young dudes, like quickly showing well Scottie Barnes obviously,
I mean they got six guys averaging.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
In double figures. So I'll turn it to you, Rob.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I would say there's three or four teams in the
mix for you, honest, I will put the Lakers out there,
obviously lebron thing.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
People will scoff at that. That's fine. I don't give
a shit.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
The reality is everybody who thinks they've got any shot
at Yannis gets in the mix at the deadline.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
But that does not happen in the summer.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Big facts.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
Yeah, if you believe that your team has even a
five percent chance of getting honest, you submit your offer,
like before this podcast even airs. Like you send the
text out and say, Hey, what's it gonna take to
get him to the Orange and Blue? What's gonna take
to get him here down the South, what's gonna take
to get him alongside? Look, whatever your team is, you
make the call immediately because guys like him historically do
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not come around very often. If you exclude the Luca Tree,
because that happened the dead of night. That happened between
two guys who had a handshake deal that nobody else
knew about. When you have guys of this caliber becoming available,
the feeding frenzy is out of this world.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
And for good reason.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
Look, Giannis, I know they haven't had a lot of
playoff success since that championship. I think get three straight
one and dones actually, but a lot of it was
either number one Yannis was hurt, Number two Middleton was hurt,
and most recently Lillard was hurt. So you had some
combination where they limped into the postseason, they get their
doors blown off, usually by the Miami heat, and then
you kind of almost forget how good Yiannis is until
(05:32):
the regular season starts the next year and you're like,
oh shit, like this guy's the real deal. Yannis just
looking at his Wikipedia page right, Rookie of the Year,
Defensive Player of the Year, two time MVP, NBA champion,
NBA Finals MVP, was basically a All NBA first teamer forever.
You know, like, as long as he wants to play
and he's in criteria, he's gonna get All NBA first Team.
(05:55):
So if you have a chance to get him, you
don't wait till the summer. You don't wait until Milwaukee
has time to really sit down and kind of sales
pitch this thing, or do whatever they can do to
try to convince him and sign another one of his
brothers or sign his cousin, whatever they can do to
keep him happy. No, you got to strike while the
iron is hot, and to your go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Well, I was gonna say the stroke. I weren't in
lockstep here before the deadline. But Rob, the only argument
to wait is that this draft is loaded. There's like
three or four, maybe five potential stars.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
I mean, I like Peterson.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
I hear people saying he looks like Kobe, Like that's
a bridge too far from me, the kid from Kansas
who's been out with a hamstring. But is there a
world where you wait to see who gets the number
one pick?
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Based on that?
Speaker 3 (06:42):
You say, we want the number one pick. We'll take
on bad contracts just so we get a young potential
star in the mix.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
I mean the kid Boozer a duke is very good.
It's a loaded draft. That would be the only argument
for waiting. Would you agree, Yes?
Speaker 6 (07:00):
But here's the thing is, I don't believe the Milwaukee
Bucks are like the Los Angeles Clippers, where you know,
earlier in the day there was a big hullablu about
Chris Paul getting dumped in the middle of the night,
two thirty in the morning, Eastern because they thought he
was too much like Chris Paul for their liking at
this stage in his career, and he was too you know, needy,
and all kinds of things like that.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
And I don't believe that.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
The Bucks are like the Clippers, whe they're gonna be
cut through by any means necessary, where they're gonna disrespect
a franchise icon, like Blake Griffin back in the day,
and like Chris Paul earlier on Wednesday. I could see
them saying, Giannis, we want to keep you first and foremost.
We're gonna do whatever we can to keep you. We'll
we'll try to talk you in, We'll do whatever we
have to do, but if you are how bent on leaving,
we will do our best to get you where you
(07:41):
want to go. Because he means that much to that franchise,
He means that much to that city, And so I
could see him saying, obviously, I want to go to
the Knicks. That's my first preference. I think he's made
that clear over the summer. But if you're gonna open
it up, here's a list of five or six teams
I would be willing to entertain.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Do you think Memphis tries to pedal Jah Morant to
the Bucks.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Probably, I'm sure the Bucks will.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Just be like, yeah, that's a hard pass. The problem
with Yannis, let me just check. Hey, he's thirty right,
I think he's thirty one.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
So that's the thing. This is a turn thirty one
this week.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Okay, So this is not easy, Rob, Are you giving
up the number one pick to get Yanis? Because the
number one pick is going to be eight, nineteen or twenty,
You're gonna have him for a long ass time. He's
maybe your guy for the next ten fifteen years Yannis,
I would.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Guess three more prime years, maybe four.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
When you put it that way, I don't know if
I would rather have Like it's Janis bringing let's just
say the Kings get the tight get the number one pick.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Okay. Even if you get.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Yannis and you can dump off zak Levine or whoever
you want on load, there's no infrastructure there for a title,
is there. So I don't know if it if it's
as easy as hey. With some of these bad teams,
they want to take a chance on you to build
around you quickly, Like I don't know that.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
But he's not in a position to say I'm not
going to freakin' Charlotte. It's not gonna work.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Like, hey, LaMelo ball, I don't want to play with
Brandon Miller and Bridges.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
So I don't know. Maybe you're right, Maybe it is
just the Knicks.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Carl Anthony gets it done, Karl Anthony Towns all the
picks you've got, and I don't know who else balances
it out. I'm not giving up Josh Hart Bridge. I'm
not giving up the farm for you.
Speaker 6 (09:30):
I mean, it's basically I think with the contract, i'mbout
have to do a deep dive into this, you know,
later on after we record. I think you can kind
of do it with cat and picks, like just numbers wise,
I think the salaries match up.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
The Bucks fans would just be outraged.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
Sure, and that and and that's why I think if
you're in Milwaukee said, I don't want Carl Anthony Towns,
give me Anenobian Bridges or give me Annobeen Hart or
something like that.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
You know what I mean, Like Anobian Bridge, that's that's
that's your wing defense exactly.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
You got to give to get, you know, I mean,
unless you're the Lakers, you don't get Superstar for nothing.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
They got Luca.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Oh well, they give up Bax Christy instead of Austin
Like that is unbelievable. Yeah, this is a tough spot
for the Bucks. You know, I'm assuming they would like
to send him west and as opposed to the East.
The problem is like there's no easy landing spot. I mean, like,
I don't see how the Nuggets could get involved. They
have to part with like Jamal Murray or something like that.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
They're not doing that.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I don't see how you get him to partner with Wemby.
Are people trying to workshop trades on that front?
Speaker 6 (10:30):
Oh, I'm sure they are. I mean that they were
trying to do that before the draft. Remember when they
had the number two pig. I said, hey, you have
a guy right now in Wemby who we all believe
and when you can win big, now make the trade
for Giannest And they never even thought about it.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
So you'd have to give up like Castle and s
Barnes and whatever the salaries are. Yeah, everybody wants to
avoid giving up the young guys who somebody speculated Minnesota,
you give up go Bear and you partner Giannis and
and Anthony Edwards. What am I doing with go Beart.
I'd rather take Carl and think Towns is supposed to
go Bear.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Yeah, I mean I would, But at would they do?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
That is the question?
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Who?
Speaker 6 (11:11):
Like would Minnesota like if you're a team, No, I mean, like,
excuse me, if you're Milwaukee to Minnesota, where you say, hey,
we'll take Gobert.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
No, if you're giving.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
Up Beyanness, you're not going to get one hundred cents
on the dollar. You're probably not going to get the
original Kdie Phoenix package where you get like four first
round picks. I don't think that's on the cards anymore. No,
with the way the new salary cap is, so you're
gonna say, hey, we'll take two or three veteran players
who we think can make us competitive now, or we're
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going to take all the young players and hope four
or five years from now we're competitive.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
I would take picks and middling players.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
How about this? This is spicy.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
So I don't know if you noticed, but the Atlanta
Hawks are better defensively, and you could argue better overall
with Trey Young down. I can't imagine that the Bucks
would want Trey Young. But Trey Young another salary that
kind of if I can get a congoo, I'm taking
him in a heartbeat, and whatever picks you can cobble together.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Is that something you'd want again? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
You want to see Jannis in the East? What four
times a year?
Speaker 6 (12:16):
I'll tell you what if it comes down to something
like that, I wouldn't be surprised if Milwaukee says, how
about instead of you sending us Trey for Yannis, you
send us Trey and we'll give you other things instead.
And we say we try, we try to salvage this
Yana situation. Hey, yan Is, we didn't work with Dames Like,
here's straight.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Oh, we'll take Trey Young, you take all our pooty exactly.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
I'll tell you what. Since we've been recording, I've been
on the trade machine trying figure out ways to get
Yanis at Lakers. There's a few that I like. I mean,
obviously they'll have to adjust them a little bit. But
is there a scenario number one where there's a three
team trade where Yannis goes to La Lebron goes to
Golden State, and some package of kaminga, pajem Ski and
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Expire contracts goes to Milwaukee.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Yeah? Did we do that in the summer. We may have.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
So the Warriors are kind of struggling. They don't look
like a top six team. Curry's been hurt a lot.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Interesting, I think they're in the mix. Yeah, so it's
gonna be an exciting Fibruary.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Right after the Super Bowl, rob right into NBA trade
deadline and Giannis craziness. All right, without further ado, let's
get to our guest, Chris Filika from Big Noon Kickoff
and the Bare Bets Podcast.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
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Speaker 2 (13:48):
I know what sports dance wants.
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But for everything he doesn't. He knows a guy who does.
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Let's just say I know a guy who knows the
guy who knows another guy.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
All right, let's welcome back to Straight Fire, a college
football fixture for the last couple decades. He's on Big
Noon Kickoff, He's got the Bare Bets Podcast, Chris Felika.
He is also a long suffering Jets fan we'll save
the Jets for the very end of the pod about
whether he wants Simpson or Mendoza or neither, and how
good the Sauce Gardner trade is looking now. But anyways,
(14:19):
let's start with college football. That's your wheelhouse, Chris. Obviously
you are off to the Big Ten championship game this
week should be a good one. I don't know why
don't we start with the college football playoffrankings. Let's do
that because you're a Miami guy and a lot of
chatter online about Miami versus Notre Dame, with some BYU
in there. I think we both agree with b why
(14:41):
he's not gonna win. And then there's Alabama. But first
of all, any surprises for you in the college football
rankings reveal on Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I was a little surprised that they moved All miss up.
I don't know if that was confirmation of when Charlie
Weist junior said he was going back to call plays.
I didn't quite get it. I think All Missus resume
is a little bit flimsy. I don't think there as
good as Texas A and M and I don't think
they're I certainly don't think there as good as Oregon,
(15:10):
but that that was interesting to see Ole Miss get
get moved up the spot, which which was fine. I
don't mind them going to the playoff. It would have
been a big time screw job how they gotten eliminated
the I guess the biggest thing that I'm surprised about overall,
besides the fact that the Miami Notre Dame flip hasn't
(15:31):
happened yet, it is in relation to how that sec
head to head to head, uh, the the old miss
over Oklahoma over Alabama, how that is held true and
how nine and three Texas beats a ten and two uh, Vanderbilt.
They have the head to head there and that's held true.
(15:53):
But the only hold head to head that still hasn't
who was the one where Miami didn't trail in the
game that they beat Notre Dame had dead? So it
is interesting thing. I think if you look at the
Alabama going over Notre Dame last night, I think that
was probably a little while coming. It's based on resumes
power ratings. Obviously Notre Dame is better, but the resumes
Alabama's got a bunch of top thirty Sagarin wins and
(16:16):
Notre Dame only has the one over the two rather
USC and then I think it was one of the
pit one too. I think it's top thirty. But yeah,
well we'll see what happens on Saturday, and Sunday should
be a wild day.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
So the Old Miss one's interesting.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
So do you think they stick at six because I
guess Alabama could pass them, but then maybe Georgia falls back.
I don't know, because if you're at six Ole Miss,
you definitely want the three seed.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
The three seed would be more valuable than the two seed, right, Yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
You're getting a home game against the eleven seed, which
could be Miami, could be Notre Dame, and you'll probably
be an underdog on your home field. That's the case.
But they can't see Georgia falling below Ole Miss. That
being that they did beat them head to head. Could
see Alabama jumping them from wherever they are now nine
to nine to six. That could happen. Uh. That's why
(17:07):
I don't necessarily feel like there are a lot of
markets out there where you can lock in certain seedings
and such. But the way that you see the SEC
Championship game, it could affect things like you could lock
in all the misses A succeeed right now. You could
lock in Oklahoma as an eight. You can lock in
all the missus A seven, but you don't know that
result that if Alabama win, they're gonna go up over
over a lot of them. But the one thing I
(17:29):
do feel fairly certain of that I know you are
not in the same school of fault that I am,
is if Texas Tech does beat BYU second second time,
it should it should be when it's twelve and a
half five, that would be a second it is, And
that's what it was in the first meeting as well.
And I'm not sure Chase Roberts, BYU's best wide receiver
(17:50):
is going to play. UH. Tech left a lot of field,
a lot of points in the field in that first game.
I think if that does happen, Texas Tech beats b
YU for a second time, I think that's the Miami
Notre Dame flip finally going to happen, because No BYU
would fall behind Miami Notre Dame in Miami would be
right side to side. And that's when in the room
(18:12):
all those ex coaches and ex administrators can finally come
together and say, Miami did beat Notre Dame in the
head to head. It has to matter for something. And
there's been a lot of good information out there about
going back in college football playoff era, about teams with
identical records and Power four leagues, about how the team
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that won the head to head was always ranked ahead
of the team that lost the head to head in
the final ranking, and that would mean would mean that
Miami would ultimately go ahead of it. It reminds me
a lot of I believe it was twenty fourteen where
Baylor beat TCU. A lot of people felt after that
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game TCU was the better team, and then TCU was
ranked ahead of Baylor basically like every week after that,
and then finally in the last week, TCU fall behind
Baylor because Baylor did win the head dead and they
finally honored the head dead. So I think that's where
we're heading, But I get it. The biggest issue for
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me is that this should not be a Notre Dame
Miami debate. It should be Notre Dame in Miami in
and we should debating which of the Oklahoma Ole Missus
Alabama's that are inn because if you look at Power ratings,
like it's clear that Miami and Notre Dame are stronger
in terms of that rating. It's just this narrative of
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sec building up wins against top thirty teams in terms
of like said Auburn, Nole, miss Can, I'm not all
miss Auburn, Tennessee, Missouri? Who else is South Carolina? Team
teams in that category that aren't necessarily great wings. But
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then on the flip you look at Miami, people say, oh,
they lost to two one ranked teams, They're terrible. SMU
is ranked higher and Saga in the Tennessee. But yet
that's a bad loss a conference road game in overtime.
Louisville's twenty seven, which is two spots higher than South Carolina,
who Alabama nearly lost to. So I do think the
flip is gonna happen, and I would not pay ultimately
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that much attention to the betting odds because I don't
think the algorithms that these sportsbooks can really take into
account human factor, human emotion, human decision making. All it
sees is that Miami and Notre Name are not playing
this week, and it can't really figure out that there's
a vote involved here at the end, and that it
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affects on other results. As well if you go back
a couple of years. And I only know this because
I was very strongly in that the Alabama and Texas
should both be in. The prices on Florida State to
make the field that year were massive minuses, and the
prices on Alabama to make the field were massive pluses.
And that was a field day for me because I
really knew, just having an understanding of how this system worked,
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what was going to happen. So if you're a Miami
fan out there, don't give up hope. And if you're
a Notre Dame fan, I think your best path in
would be a big Georgia Wayne over Alabama to give
Alabama a third loss and maybe give the committee to
re examine their resume.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
So I don't know how the committee looks at the
season in total. I view it as like a kind
of two cars racing, right. So Miami beat Notre Dame
in the opener, they surge ahead, Notre Dame falls back,
Notre Dame f falls further back after the close lost
A and m But as the season goes on, you
inch up from Notre Dame's perspective, and then Miami starts dropping.
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When you lose as a double digit favorite at home
to Louisville. That's a big drop. Then you lose again
as a double digit favorite. I guess a good smuteam,
but I think the line was ten and a half
or eleven something like that. So you're losing and Notre
Dame is just obliterating everyone, so they keep moving up.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Is now past Miami.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yes, the head to head matters, but that was again
one hundred days ago practically, and now we're at the
point it's like, okay, so we still think.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Miami is behind Notre Dame.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Miami's behind BYU, but then you remove BYU and suddenly
Miami's better. When none of the ACC teams in the
championship played Miami this season, the only thing, the only
thing I can see movement is Notre Dame gets a
small bump. If Boise wins on Friday, I don't thinking,
but it's an actual result, like it's a data point
that hey, oh they beat Poise.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Bois's not trash.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
They won the MWC, which is better than nothing, right,
that's got to be worth something, right.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I mean, it would probably help them as a minute,
like in straight the schedule, it might help them look
a little bit better, but this isn't a great Boise team.
And I don't think I agree.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
I don't think agree, I don't.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
I don't think that ultimately will do it. I just
am basing it on committee habits, committee history, and once
you remove by you from the from the equation, and
I think BYU is there kind of a buffer between
the two that will.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Get people talking.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Maybe you hit on that right there. This is a
TV show and they are making it up as they
go along. I am not saying that the Committee and
ESPN are in cahoots, but I think the Committee is
putting off making a definitive decision for as long as possible.
The one thing I will say at Miami's biggest crime
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is that they lost the conference road game in overtime
three days before the first college football Playoff rankings. They
were anchoring the initial ranking at the lowest possible point.
I think at that time there was probably a little
bit of a narrative and a little bit of a
belief from the Committee that Miami would just lose again
and who could blame them? Honestly, Miami had been four
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to eleven in games in November or later under Crystal.
Weal sure they were going to lose either at Pitt
or Virginia Tech Day. They're absolutely, but then a funny
thing happened. They're actually playing their best ball of the year.
And if you look at a lot of the top
four or five since that loss, in terms like you
hard to play, differential points per drive, differential number one sack,
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differential complete two percentage touchdown passes the number one. So
they are clicking right now on all cellars, and I
think that really is causing the committee to kind of
re examine things. And I get it from a Notre
Dame standpoint, like having the rug pulled out from Undie,
you kind of sucks.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Yeah, it seems a little goofy.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Well, I understood.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
I was with you on the Florida state. I didn't
think they deserve to be in I was one hundred percent.
Now I didn't bet it. But now with your logic,
are you advising hurricane fans to go bet there?
Speaker 4 (24:44):
I mean yes, yeah, I think I have.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
And I have been because I could. I brought this
up on Big Noon three weeks ago about how this
ultimately was going to play out where you Miami needed
BYU to lose and there was someone else was in
either utah to lose and they did, or they looked
bad and fell behind. Like b it was that you
could see the path and from Notre Dame. And you
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have to draw a distinction here, like best power reading teams,
best teams. Notre Dame is one of them, so is Miami.
The resume for Notre Name is kind of flimsy, like
you look, their case for the playoff is, oh, we
lost two close games to two top ten teams and
now we're better. Okay, Well, I.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Think they beat everybody by double digits right the rest
of the way.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
I believe that they the game the game against BC
was twelve ten late in the third quarter, was under
a minute to go against a BC team that was
one and seven at the time, and then they wound
up up winning. I believe it was twenty five to ten.
But when you're hanging your hat on that and then oh,
we're better now, well Miami's better now too.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Now what way are they?
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Wait then in the beginning of the season, yes, unquestionably, despite.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
The two losses, as did your favorites.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Right now, as they are, they are better. They had
like six daughters down in the SMU game. So I
mean that doesn't get really brought up and I'm not
going to rely on that as a clutch. That still
should have won the game. But that game, they had
eight new defensive starters with a first time defensive coordinator,
Malachai Toni, a true freshman. It was his first career game.
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He's now turned in he's the ACC Freshman of the Year.
He's turned into one of the most dynamic players in
college football. Gerard Pringle didn't play it down in that game.
Another freshman who is now there go to running back.
They are a different team, a better team now too
than what they were earlier in the year.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
So I mean Notre Dame was starting to quarterback his
first big time start in the rain on the road.
So again, like there's no right answer, let me ask
you this, is there a world where Miami and Notre
Dame both get in and the committee pulls the rug
out from us someone else?
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yes? I think there is. I think if Alabama were
to lose and lose.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Or something okay in.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Soiling, yeah, I think that may. While I don't, I
think it'd be extremely hard for them to knock the
knock a team that played in the SEC title game
out because they want to continue these title games and
they want to value them. But at the same time,
Alabama hasn't played good football in a month. Alabama nearly
lost to South Carolina, probably should have lost in South
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Carolina very easily, could have lost last week at Jordan
Hair blowing a big league turn the ball over three times,
and an embarrassing loss at home to Oklahoma kind of
slug past LSU a little bit. Ty Simpsons really struggled lately.
Oh turned the ball out a bunch.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
The Oklahoma game was a rough one for it.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah, gaated by two hundred yards somehow.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
When they lose the game, you could argue that, like
everybody's given one mulligan, right, you don't have a good game,
I mean Miami had you could I guess the Louisville game, right,
double digit think coronovers exactly that you would probably use
that as the mulligan if you were Alabama.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Hey man, the gauntlet it's tough.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
I mean, Materier was garbage coming off the injury against Texas, right,
and everyone other than Ohio State I should I should say, yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
And the thing about Alabama you talked about the Oklahoma
game being their mulligan. They've got the worst loss of
any of these contenders. They lost at five and seven
Florida States, Right, really really game.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
That was the first game of the season too, right, Wow?
Speaker 2 (28:23):
So yeah, and so was Miami Notre Dame. So what
he was going to eliminate eliminate the first week of
the season from County.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
I think you're right.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Both teams are dramatically different. I mean, Ohio State Texas
like Texas. If you do that rematch, I mean it
spread certainly under a touchdown, right, I mean that's that's
a hell of it. And so I don't know. The
whole relying on a head to head in week one
or two to me just strikes as like you said,
teams can't get better and improve. Yeah, it's a crappy situation.
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I mean, somebody's gonna get screwed here. I mean, you
make up a strong argument that maybe it is Notre
Dame to get shafted.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Yeah, they were in the title game last year.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
I would argue, if you know, if they're if they're
facing in the second, you know, if they're facing Old
Miss followed by Indiana.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
I'm feeling confident. Notre Dame win in both of those so.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
And I feel confident about Miami and this is doing
the same that. That's why this is a very rare year. Yeah,
I was not pro expansion. I thought four was a
good number. I thought it should be hard and elite
to get into this thing.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Who would the four have been this year?
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Do we know? And that's the great question. Are you
gonna take all three teams from the Big ten? Because
in my recent power rank, oh, Ohio State, Indiana, Oregon one, two, three.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Oh wow, Now, now that's gonna get people pissed off
now that you're with Big Noon, would you have.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Or I'm glad you brought that up. I'm hm, we
can't get thought about that. Oregon's defense is fantastic, and
they're gonna get to Corey and Moore back, They're gonna
get Brian back, They're gonna get their offensive line healthy.
The Committee likes to talk about the best, most complete teams.
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And in the midst of my sitting around on Sunday
afternoon having my eyes burned while having jeffs Falcons on
the TV, I started doing a bunch of sorts and
a bunch of filters, and I was like, okay, best,
best and best, most complete, most deserving. Okay, let's take
a look teams that are in the top thirty and
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straight the schedule. Teams that have a top twenty offense
and a top twenty defense in terms of efficiency, Teams
that are in the top nine of saggarin FPI and
SP plus power ratings, best teams sos I believe give
a tough schedule, and then top ten in game control,
which is I test numerical representation of the eye test
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and dominance of a team. There are two teams that
meet all four of those criteria. Number one is Oregon
and number two is Miami. It's pretty and I wasn't.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Wait, Ohio State's not in there.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Ohio State schedule is like outside the top fifty, so
that's yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
What what about india other schedule as well?
Speaker 2 (31:09):
The Indiana's schedule is bad too, So.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
How did Oregon schedule so much more difficult?
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Oregon has had a bunch of road games against top
twenty Sagarin teams. Washington was a road game against the
top twenty sagarin Iowa was Penn State. Still, despite the
six and six record, is a top twenty Sagarin team
and then they had Indiana, so they had four teams
in the top eighteen of Sagarin, three on the road,
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so that kind of offset the poor non conference schedule
that they had. So it is interesting that the two
teams that kind of met the criteria for these most complete,
most dominant best Oregon in Miami, based on a little
bit of schedule adjustment. So we'll see what happens.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Wow. All right, so final, let's see hypothetical Alabama beat Georgia.
I have bet Alabama two and a half. I know
a lot of people like Georgia.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
That's fine.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Then I would assume Georgia falls out of three. For
Indiana loses to Ohio State, they fall out. Let's say
Texas Tech wins, so it goes to Ohio State one,
Texas Tech two, Oregon three.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
I don't think they'd move Oregon ahead of Indiana just
because Indiana went to Oregon and went one.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Mine.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Okay, I think.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
You'd have Indiana three, and then the debate for four
would be either Oregon or move Alabama all the way
up to four over Georgia and the rest of the
SEC club.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
All right, let's get down to the games Indiana, Ohio State.
I'm on the Buckeyes here minus four and a half.
I think if you like the Buckeyes, you probably should
bet Julian Saying to win the Heisman right now.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
I just I love Mendoza.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
I really like him, Chris, I'm worried about him and
is a tough spot for the kid. I say kid,
but he's you know, a double business mode to graduate
school degrees already. I like him as a pro. I
just think this is a difficult spot for him. I'm curious,
do you think there's any home field advantage.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
If you will for uh, no, for the Hoosiers. Okay,
it will be.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
It will be. It will be a large abound of
Buckeye fans.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Way, so the only argument would be Buckeyees fans know, hey,
we got to save up for the national semifinal and
the championship because we're going I don't know that Indiana
fans would do that. And what are the next time they're.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Going to be in the Big Ten championship game?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
You know, that is the biggest concern I have. In
the last part part of what you said, this is
like the crowning moment for Indiana. When are they ever
going to get an opportunity to go thirteen to zero,
win the Big Ten Championship, be the number one seed
in the College Football Playoff, that it would be number
ranked number one in the country, and the eight people like,
when is that going to happen again? And you couple
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that with Ohio state emotional win beyond belief last week. Exhale,
you finally beat Michigan. Now you gotta go play this
game knowing that win or lose the Big Ten Championship game,
you're getting a first round by You're the ranning national champion.
You're gearing up to put your focus on repeating as
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national champion. So the emotional kind of is it a
lightdown spot for Ohio State. That would have me a
little concerned, But I still think they're better. I worry
about Indiana's ability to run the ball against good team.
You look at Indiana's their running game really makes things
go against their bigger name opponents. This year, they kind
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of struggled running the ball, and I'm not sure if
that happens. If Mendoza, despite that final drive that he
had against Penn State, if he can really carry this
team on his back to win over sixty minutes against
a defense that hasn't allowed more than sixteen points all year.
So yeah, I laid three and a half a couple
of weeks ago on the headline, on the look aheadline,
expecting this to run out to six or six and
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a half and be able to potentially buy a little
bit back in Indiana did not. And the fact that
this keeps coming down. If you like India, if you
like Ohio State, he might just want to wait a
little bit longer because there's a there's a good chance
this hits four, maybe even comes back to three and
a half.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Yeah, it feels like a public dog a little bit.
And drilled down on that Oregon game because I you know,
it's that happened a while ago. So Oregon had a
turnover on downs, missed the field goal, and through two
interceptions in their own end. Yes, like that was a
and I know the defense showed well for Indiana and
and more More had his worst game in the season,
but it was pretty clearly like, Hey, I don't want
to say they got a gift, but Oregon did everything
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wrong in that game. It felt like I don't I
don't see OHI to stake beating themselves. But you had
a reaction to say and to win the Heisman? Where
are you on that heisman?
Speaker 2 (35:37):
I think there is a case to be made for Diego.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Pavia Vanderbilt kid.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
I did not necessarily think this two weeks ago, but
having sat and thought about it, the way the Heisman
voting is constructed, it is all regional. There's no other
candidate in the SEC in the Southeast. Povey is going
to get essentially every first place vote.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Nott region, Georgia does. Georgia does not have any not
the running back Oklahoma materrms. Too many games arts can't
get in.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
Oh my gosh, wow.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Okay, So he's gonna be the SEC guy. He's going
to be named on every ballot and probably in first
on a majority, if not nearly every ballot. He's probably
gonna get a lot of the West Coast votes. People
are going to remember him from being in New Mexico
State and familiarity there. Mendoza saying, Jeremiah love Midwest Big ten.
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They're probably going to cancel a lot of each other's
votes out now. I think it's Ohio State wins, saying
will probably get a lot of first place votes, but
he hasn't. People like I don't necessarily think it's wholly true,
entirely true, or it's mandatory. People like to talk about,
oh he didn't have a Heisman moment. He's a really
good player, but the fact that Ohio's state season has
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been so drama less, he hasn't been in a massively
difficult spot. Now you could say, I guess on the
road down six nothing in ann Arbor last week, ye
touchdown touchdown pass to Smith, the touchdown pass to Tate,
that that that would be it. But I think there's
an avenue for for Diego Pobby to win if Ohio
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State wins a big team, if.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
The voting blocks are interesting. Who's favored right now? Honestly,
I haven't bet it.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Mendoze is favorite, and I think if if Indiana wins,
I think Mendoza will ultimately Yeah. So, but that wager
is really incorporating Ohio State. If you're looking to bet uha, I.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Like that regional angle.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
That's good because it is the vote. It comes down
to the voters, and listen to some of.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
The just to let people who are listening out there.
I don't vote in this thing I have no I
can't be influencing anything with a specific vote. I can
just put information in my thought out there.
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Speaker 3 (38:08):
I'll be honest, I don't think Sayan's been the best
player in the country, but this is what we do
for awards now, NBA, NFL, are you the best player
on the best team, Let's give it to him.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
Right, Drake may might win the NFL MVP.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
There's no way he's the best player in the league.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
No way.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
That is a market that I think is wide open
right now to bet it could. Yeah, I don't know who.
I don't know if I should be betting Dak. I
don't know if I should be betting someone else, Like
the Colts. Coults are gonna miss the playoffs, I think,
so you're not gonna give it to Jonathan Taylor, no
JSN like Sam Darnold, that's not gonna connelp you like
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he's gonna continue to fall down, Like who's it gonna
be after that? Like I think Dak at like eleven
or twelve to one right now, if the Cowboys were
to win that division and rip off about what eight
eight straight wins to end the year, he's gonna have
a great case.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Did you look at their last five? They might go
five and oh if they beat the Lions here Thursday.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Yeah, oh yeah. I actually bet George Pickens last week
at one hundred and fifty to one to the offensive
player of the year.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
No way, wow.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
I bet the Cowboys at ten to one to win
the division.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
Wait, wait, wait, let me look.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Let me see what I can find on Dak MVP
right now, because that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Yeah, I think he's eleven to one or twelve to one, or.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
It could be dead Friday morning. If they lose to
the Lions is dead. But I've already bet them against
the Lions. I don't know where you are on that game.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
I think the guy like the Cowboys in the game too,
and I hate being prisoner of the moment, but right
now they're better. The Lions have a ton offensive line injuries,
and now I'm going to catch the ball like I
was highing the Lions at the start of the year.
But hey, give me give the Cowboys credit. The trades
that they made have panned out for him.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
So here we go.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Dak plus thirteen forty five.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
That is not bad.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Win. If they beat the Lions, that's gonna be seven
to one.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
So I think you gotta I'll take that.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
I'll take some Jordan love as well. I'm a believer
to get read here back shortly. And who's the other guy,
the other receiver? Matthew Golden Golden, Yes, Golden, who's been
a bit of a Disappointment'm sure you've seen the numbers.
All right, I got sidetracked. Let's go back to college,
pab We're good. Do you have anything on Alabama Georgia.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
I am concerned about liking Georgia here. I hate laying
two and a half. I hate laying numbers under a
field goal. But I just go back to that first meeting.
Alabama had a great first half and then Georgia ultimately
figured them out. Georgia's defense has gotten better. Georgia did
not have either of their starting offensive tackles in that game.
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They may not have starting center Drew Bobo in this game,
which could be a problem trying to block up Tip
Keenan upfront. Frasier. They running back only had four carries
because he fumbled, they got benched. Right, Alabama has not
been everything. Logically in my head says that Georgia is
the right side here to get revenge. But I'm having
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a hard time getting there. I went back and looked,
you know, from following my Twitter feed and stuff like,
if you favorites of three points are fewer in power
in conference title games the last five years, three and eleven.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Oh right up, straight up, Yeah, the market's telling you, hey,
we're not given three I know it's not home field,
but that I don't know who has homefield advantage.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
It is in the state.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Georgia maybe a little bit. But look at last year.
Texas was a two and a half point favorite in
this game, lost out right. SMU was a two and
a half point favorite against Clemson, lost out right. Iowa
State was a point and a half favorite against Arizona State,
got blown out. Louisville was favored over Florida State in
twenty twenty three with the with the backup quarterback game
lost so fourteen and twenty four all time, three and
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eleven the last five years.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Yeah, point, this one's out of left field. But Joel
Klett did say it on The Herd on Wednesday. He
said that he believes Penn State is circling a coach
who's still playing currently still in like the playoff mix,
and he was going through names and he said, what
about Kaylen Deboor. I was gobsmacked, and I'm thinking kayland Boor.
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First of all, he's a Sexton client, which sounds apparently
Sexton doesn't like Penn State.
Speaker 4 (42:20):
Now that's the rumor.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
I don't know what's up with that, but listen, I
know Kaylen de Boor probably doesn't love the reaction in
the Deep South, like they're ready to fire him after
the FSU lost. Then he's a hero because he beats Georgie.
It's a little goofy. I think Debor is awesome. I
would be floored if he went to Penn State. Your
thoughts on that and then the Penn State search.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
I would not be I would be surprised. I think
the path there is Alabama losing the SEC Championship game
and not making the College Football Playoff. I think that's
the path. If that were to happen, then Penn State
kind of gives him uh soft landing spot where hey
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parachute him. You want to deal with this anymore come
out and Tea appreciated it. I don't. I ultimately don't
think it will. I think I think Penn State really
thought that they were going to get Clownie Sataki. I
thought they felt like they were in a good position
to do so, and then Crumble Cookies came in and
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spoiled the party.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
So we wait, let's let's back up a sec this
whole Penn State firing. Are you of the belief that
when they got rid of Franklin they thought Signetti was
in the bag, because you have to have a game
plan when you run off somebody like that.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
No, I think it was I don't think they're regretting
firing James. I think they just it was just a
general like it was so toxic there amongst the fans
and his ability to win a big game and then
to completely fall apart again against U C. L A
and in Northwestern it was like, Okay, this is this
(43:58):
is done. But I do think that they thought they
would be able to get one of the big names
in there, whether whether it was who rules Signetti, but who,
And now that they're not, I think they're just gonna
ultimate land on Terry Smith, an alum. No team has
been playing great. I don't know Brahm is staying at Louisville.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
I saw Heartline is going to us.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
That's a whiff, Heartlines going to us. FU me. Brian
Gables name has been out there.
Speaker 4 (44:29):
Yeah, what do you think of that?
Speaker 2 (44:32):
I mean, they had success with a with an offensive
pro and offensive coordinator pro coach before when they when
they brought in Bill Brian and then the lowest point
in the program's history.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
Christian Hackenberg days.
Speaker 4 (44:47):
I believe right.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
Oh, I was so excited when the Jets drafted Christian.
I thought we were I thought we were on our way.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
What about Dan Mullian. We had someone I'm not gonna
I don't want to call him out, who came on
the pod and uh I started asking a round about
Dan Mullen. They were like, apparently some shady stuff went
down at Florida that isn't public. I don't exactly know
what it was, but why isn't anybody kicking the Dan
Mullen tyres?
Speaker 2 (45:11):
I think probably. I mean, I wouldn't say year one
in EU n l V, but yeah, there must be
something there. I mean, I thought he did a good
job at Florida. He certainly a great coordinator as well.
How I would hire Dan and a hartbeat but maybe
just the behold, is he really gonna bolt on on
UNLV after one year? And I think he's kind of
(45:31):
come out and said, I'm happy here, but hey, happiness
yeah haply you bring out, you bring up like check
ye have happiness? Change?
Speaker 4 (45:40):
All right?
Speaker 1 (45:41):
Final?
Speaker 3 (45:41):
When Texas Tech BYU twelve and a half, I'm seating
up to thirteen in some spots. Now you mentioned the
coach and the dalliance with Penn State, I would assume
they're locked in. It's tough to route a team twice
in a season, or maybe that's just a mind game
we tell ourselves.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
But by he's going to be am for this.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
Texas Tech knows it's clear and in onmadically best season
in program history.
Speaker 4 (46:03):
Is there a world where BYU dials.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
Up some interesting stuff here and they get the cover?
Speaker 2 (46:07):
I can't yeah, cover, I could see. I can't see
them winning at right. If you look at the Power
five championship history with double digit favorites, they're four and
thirty four, the underdogs are and the last twenty six
have lost.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
Out Right, you got to go back to twenty six
in a row six.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
Two thousand and five Florida State over Virginia Tech. And
the last five years there have been five double digit favorites,
all of them won by at least twenty points. So
I think they're up against it. The teams may change,
but the type of teams don't change. Just in what
I think I said earlier, like Chase Roberts, their best
wide receiver may not play. Tech left a lot of
(46:47):
points on the board in that first meeting, and I
think just how good they are upfront in the trenches.
People think about Texas Tech and you think of Mike
Leach and offense and Patrick Mahomes in Kingsbury. This is
the number one ranked team the country in terms of
defensive defensive efficiency. They went hard in the portal on
defense on the defensive line there. They dominated the game
(47:11):
in the first meeting, holding by You like two hundred
and forty yards. I think it was I just have
a hard time seeing by You managed to score enough
points there, even though it is not in Lubbock but
a neutral set. I would be very very surprised if
BYU won this game.
Speaker 3 (47:27):
All right, Well, we could wrap up I know you
love gambling. The Yannis situation that started to develop, he
and his agent have started conversations about departing Milwaukee. I'm
of the belief they need to do this deal before
the deadline. If you wait until the summer, I think
the pool of teams shrinks considerably. I don't. I mean, again,
(47:48):
the Toronto Raptors are having.
Speaker 4 (47:49):
A crazy season.
Speaker 3 (47:50):
I doubt they would go all in for you, honest,
but I mean they did it for Kawhi and it
worked out. Any thoughts on Giannis and how you would
handle betting into that market.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Well, I mean apparently like the only team he said
he wants to go to was the Knicks.
Speaker 4 (48:03):
Right, that was earlier, but yes, that may still hold true.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
I mean I actually bet NBA Finals a straight result
Thunder over Knicks, OH Eastern twelfth to one. I mean,
the Eastern Conference is very, very weak. I mean, I
don't think any of those teams.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
Hey Detroit, put some respect on their name.
Speaker 4 (48:22):
Leak.
Speaker 3 (48:23):
Come on, Pistons, Look, Kate Cunningham's a star.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
I had Kate Cutt last year. I had a Pistons
win total over and I had Kate Cunningham most improved player.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
And wow, this is why I didn't even know you
bet NBA like that.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
I bet futures, Oh yeah, awards, awards and futures. I'll bet.
I don't know, night in and night out. No shot.
I've been loaded. My guy Will Hill, who we have
with the bar Bets Pod and does some writing for
Fox sports dot Com, we've been We've been betting the
Thunder from twenty five to one all the way down
to break the record to win seventy four games, and
(48:57):
I think as of today, I think it's now down
to five to one.
Speaker 3 (48:59):
So yeah, all right, and then the Jets, I say,
it looks like we I'm gonna say we are not
going to get Mendoza.
Speaker 4 (49:07):
I mean, hell, I think the Jets might beat the
Dolphins this weekend.
Speaker 3 (49:09):
Frankly, the weather looks like it's gonna be cold. I
don't I don't know.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
He all of a sudden love the Dolphins.
Speaker 4 (49:16):
Yeah, there's not much love.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
If anybody watched that Saints game, Oh my god, Toua
looks washed. Anyways, the Jets, I don't think they can
get Mendoza. Right, There's just too many quarterback needy teams
ahead of them. Raiders, Browns, Saints. However, is there another
quarterback you'd look at?
Speaker 4 (49:35):
Ty Simpson? Not not that early, but.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
The interesting name that if he comes out. We've seen
Dante More suddenly mocked in like the top five again, Like,
if he comes out, that that would be the guy
that I would be very interesting in potentially taking.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
But it doesn't seem like he's coming out right.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
Hey, if he's mocked in the top five, he's probably
got to come out right.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
Possibly.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
I know.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
I know Oregon and I know Nike. They got all
the money in the world out there to be able
to try and keep him. But I don't know. Wouldn't
wouldn't you, wouldn't you?
Speaker 4 (50:14):
I think he should come out.
Speaker 3 (50:15):
I just I'm not one hundred percent sure. Let me
give you a name that I think will rise up.
You're mister college football. You know all these boys, guys
Sawyer Robertson at Baylor. I keep hearing good things, huge arm,
multi year starter. You seem nonplus like a mid round pick.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
Yeah, yes, mid mid round, shot.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
Five, third, fourth, fifth, take a flyer.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
Exactly, That's what we're talking. Yeah, and nothing nothing earlier.
And then I think I think the Jets are probably
now in the position where where they're picking, you take
the best available player that you can, whether it's whomever,
if who along that.
Speaker 4 (50:55):
I don't love Caleb Downs. I love Caleb Downs, but
not that early. Sorry three someone.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
Like that at that reek. They have to happen to fall.
Maybe they're there. But the fact that you got seven
picks in the in the first couple of rounds the
next couple of years, that's where you go next year,
hopefully knock on wood. You've got a chance maybe to
take Julian saying you've got maybe an opportunity to take
Dante more if he comes back. I think arch we don't,
(51:22):
We don't know, we don't, we'll see. But I would
let all of the quarterback needy and greedy teams have
at it and just go for it.
Speaker 4 (51:32):
And would you trade up forre Mendoza. No, I wouldn't either.
Speaker 3 (51:36):
Let me ask you the other thing. So you mentioned
saying you're you're on the field, you're at the stadiums
I got to ask Julian, Sayan's listed at six to one.
He looks like he's maybe six one.
Speaker 4 (51:46):
No, no way, it's like sixtek tall.
Speaker 3 (51:48):
So you're taking Julian saying number one is six foot quarterback.
Speaker 2 (51:51):
Probably not no way. I know.
Speaker 3 (51:53):
I listen. I like him, he's great, you might win
the Heisman. I'm not taking him in the first round.
Speaker 4 (51:57):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (51:58):
No. And I think you've seen this struggles that Bryce
Young has had. His height has been a big problem,
I think, and successful.
Speaker 3 (52:07):
All Right, we could do this all day, but it's
got a real job. Chris FeliCa Bare Bets Podcast. He
will be on the ground, boots on the ground for
Indiana Ohio state.
Speaker 4 (52:17):
It should be. It should be a barn burner, Chris.
Speaker 3 (52:19):
You know, Happy holidays to you and the family.
Speaker 4 (52:21):
A good chatting up.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
Absolutely same teacher Meck
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