"Women" w/ Macy Rodman RE-RELEASE

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Today we at StraightioLab Inc. are thrilled to celebrate Pride by presenting a special, potentially once-in-a-lifetime episode of our sister podcast GaytioLab, the podcast that unpacks gay culture. That's right! Up is down, down is up, and gay guys are basically girls this week as we turn the spotlight on ourselves and our community with icon Macy Rodman. After deliberating over many topics, we decide to talk about women. Is stanning toxic? Is Laura Bush putting the "Questioning" back in LGBTQ? And is the word "complex" the new c-word? Yes, yes, and needless to say yes! We can never be wrong so let's cheers to that, mawmas!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Okay, podcast starts now, what's up everybody, and welcome to
a special edition Stradia Lab called Gatio Lab. That's right.
Today we are uplifting the LGBTQ plus and talking about
gay culture. Stradio Lab presents Gadia Lab presented by Big
Winni Players, presented by iHeartMedia.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Wow. When we were approached to do Gadio Lab by iHeartMedia, yeah,
at first we were ensure because we were sort of like,
our whole brand is straight straight culture, straight culture, yeah,
and unpacking it I don't even know. And we've spent
years researching it in libraries. Yeah, private institutions. They cost

(01:01):
a lot of money they joined. Yeah, like you know
the sort of military funded conservative research institutions that you
hear about that are primarily like for the military, but
they do fund some humanities and social sciences research and
that's sort of where we come in.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah, yeah, And whenever we would go to those places,
there would never be a gay section. So we were like, well,
where do we even begin?

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah, and you know, people started to get mad at us. Yeah,
you know, because we just shown the spotlights so brightly on.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Straight culture and it was blinding.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
It was blinding, and it was you know, people started
to say, hey, like, you know, there's other culture out.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
There, right, Like you can shine an overhead spotlight on
straight culture, but maybe once in a while, just a
little vintage lamp, just a little a little sconce that's
just for gay culture. Maybe once every few years.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
It could be tasteful.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, and we said, you know what, sure, why the
fuck not throw them a bone. They're going through a
lot this year, you know what, with multiple companies not
doing pride campaigns at all. Wait, yeah, well here's the thing. Yeah, okay,
so this is actually like really important. Basically, in the past,
everyone has done a pride campaign, so it's been hacked.

(02:09):
This year, it's actually indie to do a pride campaign
because the big companies are not doing them.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
It's it's become indie to do prod.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah. And actually it's like I'm like, you know, we
both have so much old material, old jokes that are
like making fun of corporate pride, and it's like you
can't say that anymore because now it's like make that's
like making fun of you know, sky Ferira, Like that's
like you're making fun of indie artists when you're making
fun of corporate pride.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Now pride going indie. It's sort of it is Skypierra.
It is how pop has gone indie exactly. Now, now
pop girls are indie girls and therefore they are pride.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Right, So pride used to be Katie Perry, yeah, and
now it's Caroline Pola.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Check exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
And so you see, you know, you'll see a parade
and it'll be like, oh, I don't know, a float
that's ECU slata afloat that's you know, an independent record label.
A float that is a mom and pop pottery story.
Even all the floats are indie things rather than a
Target Starbucks. And so we thought, well, now's a better

(03:17):
the other time than ever to cash it. And we thought,
well we're indie, Yeah, we're indy and yeah, well.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah we're indy coming from the iHeart station in midtown
Manhattan that's still indy.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah, which is owned by Lockheed Martin. Literally the CBGB's
up today. But we're sort of like when a big
company has like a small team and they're like, well
that's a that's more of a startup environment. Like you guys,
just like we want you to play like you have
our own there's like a little everyone sits on a
ball rather than an office chair, and there's ping pong
and kombucha. Yeah that's what we are. And yeah, there's

(03:49):
taco Tuesdays and there are vegan options whatever whatever.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
We're still indy.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
So I guess I guess that's sort of a good
context for today. I don't want to put you on
the spot, but this was you immediately jumped on. This
was your passion project.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
To be fair, I've been pushing this idea for years.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yeah, you have been pushing this idea for years. Honestly,
from like when we started, you were like, you know,
it would be funny. We have a quarter of single episode.
You know it would be funny if like year four
we did Gatio lab where we do a gay topic.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
I actually do think it will be funny, and I
stand by it. Yeah. I you know, anytime there's sort
of a flip where it's like, you know, the sitcom,
suddenly it's about the secondary character a bottle episode.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
This is sort of a bottle episode even Yeah, and
I love that. So I think that's sort of what
I was hoping for. And if it flops, I want
to say it's not my fault. No, it's my heart's
fault because they asked for it and I pushed for it.
So yeah, So basically that's the fantasy. I think that's

(04:55):
the fantasy, you know. I also want to say I'm
in a sort of place right now where I am
pounding the Jon Diddian alarm in the sense that I
am needing to tell myself stories in order to live. Huh,
Because you know, when you have nothing in your own
life that is interesting enough to really lead with, and
you're like, well, this is where fiction comes in. So

(05:15):
I am in the mood to be in a heightened reality.
I'm in the mood to be in full costume on
a stage, and I'm in the mood to get a
little crazy. I'm glad.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
I'm trying to think if I'm in the same mood
or yeah, I think I'm in like a mood that's.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Like you're more grounded.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
I'm a little more grounded, okay, but also have nothing
to show for it, Like if it were like like
I don't have like a fun story to tell.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Or mumblecore, I'm slice of life. You're a slice of life.
Mumble core. You know what I am? I'm sort of
like the musical episode of Buffy.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Like, oh, they're like, we don't have anything to say,
so let's pay Exactly.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
That's exactly how I am. I'm like, I if only
I could break into song, damn, but I can't. But
you can't. So should we bring in our guests? You
know what I think? Well, you know, when we decided
to do Gatio lab I, there are very few guests
that we could have asked to do. Yes. I mean,
we were honestly struggling locating one that would be perfect

(06:09):
for it. But the thing with our guests is that,
like I would say, she is the perfect vent diagram
between Stradio Lab and Gaeteo Lab, and that on the
one hand, she is a straight woman. On the other hand,
she is yas queen.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
I think it's safe to say that she is perfectly
in the middle of the venda exactly. So, without further ado,
please welcome the perfect guest.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Hi, Hi, I love this vent diagram.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah, it's sort of like it's like Kylie Minogue.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
No, and we did ask her first.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
We did, well, we spoke earlier. She couldn't do it. Yeah,
she said that was faggots.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Wow, accident work comes back.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yeah, yeah, that was.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
Yeah, I'm excited about Bride this year.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
I'm trying to decide whether I'll be on the Lucy
Dacas float. The Noah bombback flow, the.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
No bomback float is really good.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
It's gonna be great. It's gonna be great.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yeah. I heard Maggie Jill and might be honest.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Parker Posey Yeah yeah, yeah, blood orange.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Everyone's just smoking little cigarette.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Yeah, cigarettes, It'll be great.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Hardy enough. Rachel Senneu on the Pride circuit, Yeah, circuit. No,
the no bomback float is actually, if anything, he's clear
baiting a little too much.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
I would say, yeah, well, Grata can't be there, Grada
there coporate.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
That's the thing. Oh my god, that's that's the thing.
She's not doing Pride anymore. Who would have thought that
would ever happen. I know, Greta is doing Barbie. Greta's
like Barbie is straight. I don't want to be part
of the game.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Are exactly exactly she's She's like ever heard of bumping
them together?

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah? Okay, So the Noah bombback float, I'm trying to
think what what floats were we asked to be on
this year Pride. I'm like, oh my god, you're making
me riff. No. No, oh no, he's making me riff.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
No. I'm like, George, I'm gonna be honest in the cinema,
that's not where I riffed the best.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
We were asked to be in the BAM Brooklyn Academy
of Music.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
Oh, that's an honor.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
That's an honor. So it's us in the cast of
Women Talking, the only film that has been playing at
BAM for the past sixteen months. Yes, it's just a
constant stream of women talking, women talking, women talking.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Well, that's right behind the a doll's house exactly.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
So the doll's house. It is just Jessica Chastain going
around and round in a circle.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Yeah, she walks out of the theater and then just
walks through Pride, just stone face and character the whole time.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Inside of her face. That'll be fun.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Yeah, I do think it's weird that, like the community
is backlashing agins. Phoebe Bredegers float like I know, they're like,
she's too big, she's too It's like she was there, yeah,
not long ago, long ago, and without her there couldn't
be a BAM float or I mean if she's to
march in the parade, like look around like.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Yeah, yeah, you know, you get invited to two Gucci
events and suddenly you're not Indy, suddenly your target. That's
why we say R S v P no, no, no,
but take a vanetta every every corporate, every sponsored event
that I'm invited to, and honey, there are many yes,
I say, because you get on those mailing lists. Excuse me,

(09:57):
I just I just want to say. If there are
people that haven't updated their mailing list since the website
that I worked for were shut down, that is not
my fault. If I get those emails and I r
S GPS without asking how do I get on this list?
That is not something anyone needs to look into. That
is not because I'm an LGBTQ plus creator, And whether
or not I'm employed currently by Muscle Digital Group doesn't

(10:18):
mean I can't attend the J Crew Pride activation. Well.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
The thing about companies is that much like people are relative,
they live on forever exactly. And so even though Goker
went under, Bussel went under Jezebel, all those things, you know,
they are, they're like a ghost in your well, they're
a family.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
A brand is forever beautiful. I mean it's like when
people romanticize magazines are like, who would I be without
Sassy magazine or miz Or or George or George, I
mean those live on.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
I have a question, how has Jezebel survived?

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Oh? Is that one still?

Speaker 2 (10:56):
That one is still?

Speaker 1 (10:58):
So it always has been.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
And I'm like, but wait, how everything.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Has been a blog since before computers even? Yeah, well
they created the internet from biblical time.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
So someone started the ghost in the exactly. So someone
started Jezebel and they were like, it's a blog and
everyone was like what.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
Is that, Like, we don't know computers.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
And then and then Steve Jobs and everyone like created
computers around they were like, we have to have something
to host Jezebel. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Yeah, she was a great prophet.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah yeah. Wow, is just the question interesting?

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (11:43):
End of episode.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Blackout Gunshot.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
I want to know.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
It's cloudy outside.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Let's be honest, Let's be honest.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Let's be honest. Cloud clo not only cloud but like
apocalyptic in a way where we are, of course in
our famous Midtown studio, the Red Room, and we are
looking out and and as we walked in the rain
was starting, and now we're looking outside and it is
becoming you know Darren Aronofsky's noah, yeah, yeah, the storm
is starting, and you better get two little skunks of
different genders on that boat.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
The slash kind of like the game or something like
one of those nineties like yeah, Wall Street thrillers, you know, yeah,
or Wall Street or.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Yeah. It's actually, yeah, it's funny. It's not sci fi,
but it is like, Okay, you're in this like really
modern contemporary apartment and two people are plotting something. Yeah,
so the weather outside is foreshadowing that something bad is
gonna happen. Yeah, it's damn. It's Glenn Close in damages
planning how she's gonna murder? Oh my god. Yeah, and

(12:48):
she says something and then there's thunder.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
But it's also not not sci fi where you're like
sort of the only person who realizes you're a person.
It's almost matrixy, where you're like everyone else is walking
around the clouds and you're like, oh it's something, Oh yeah,
something I see.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Notice the ring.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah suddenly I see. Actually the soundtrack really doesn't go
with really doesn't go with a material because it's this
really dark, really dark, like Zack Snyder's Justice League, and
then it's like suddenly as sadly assy.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Or it's one of those trailer remixes of it.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Suddenly it's a children's chore doing. Suddenly I yeah, wow,
So Macy, I want to know, like, you know, obviously
this is our Pride episode. How like at this moment
in time, it's twenty twenty three. Yeah, we're in New

(13:40):
York City, the city that Never sleeps. How where are
you in terms of Pride as a concept these days?

Speaker 4 (13:48):
Well, you know, gotta love it, right, yea, God, I
love it with.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
All these damn drag Queen t shirts being ripped from
the shells. Oh and at Goodyear Tires, the Rainbow tire
collection ripped from cars.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
You know, Yeah, they're ripping out wheels.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
They're ripping out wheels out Rainbow and cars can't drive
without the wheels.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
They have those those spike things on the road. They're
throwing them across. They're making these cars crash into deep ravines.
So you know, whether or not Pride has become tiresome
over the years, I've heard talk of that. I don't
necessarily subscribe to that idea. But I understand that's a
popular sentiment. We I think we have to just support it.

(14:42):
And we all have to be on sixth Avenue on
June twenty.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Oh we're busy that day. Actually that sucks. And it's
that day you have the j Crew Pride Activation. Okay, yeah, yeah,
well sponsored by the Westboro Baptist Church. Excellent, yeah, excellent.
Really Now they hired a new head of diversity and inclusion.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
Things are top seed turvy these days.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
If someone approach you and they were like, do you
want to be the head of diversity and inclusion at
the Westboro Baptist Church, Yeah, what would you say?

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Here's twenty five million dollars. I'm like, sure, yeah, I'll
have a conversation. I'll get in that room.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
They have like a lot of time off.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
You guys, we have to address these people. We have
to be in the room to make change. We have
to be in the room in a room at Westbro
Baptist Church of Alex Jones's personal office.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yeah yeah, I mean that's these are the rooms four
five now more than ever news.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
We got to storm it after this, I.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Mean right there, especially in the building. All right, Okay, well,
should we do our first segment is that crazy. I
don't think it's crazy, Okay, And then I feel like
I want to really get into the topic because we're
only going to do gatio lab once. That's not true, okay,
it could be a yearly a smash success.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
I love this sort of queer argument, gay argument that
you've manufactured before the show. Disagreements, very disagreements, consensus straight,
super straight, super straight, manufacturing consent even straight.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yes, wow.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
So you know, for our special edition, we're doing a
very brand new segment.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
It's called it's called gay.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Shooter Shooters and is to gauge your familiarity with incomplicity
in gay culture by asking a series of rapid by
your questions basically this thing or this other thing. And
the only rule is you can't ask any followup questions,
or maybe you can because it's gay this time.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
You can ask follow up questions, but only if you
do it in like a really LGBTQ plus way, if
you're like, like, hold on a second, there, girl, Yeah, okay,
so I'm not just for everyone watching. I'm not looking
at my text. I'm looking at a text I sent
myself with my Gay Shooters. You know what I mean,

(17:05):
I'm impressed because I could see people being like, why
is he texting?

Speaker 3 (17:08):
I'm not even if you were, it would be consistent
with the.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Okay, I'm now I'm like, is everything texting is part
of theme, which is.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
We're just like, yeah, wait, okay, wait, wait, okay. Literally
we're restarting the episode.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Okay, okay, okay, So welcome to Gatio Lab. Did you
see this go I'm busy okay and I hate her? Okay,
So so yeah, we're doing our segment Gaze Shooters.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Wait, guys, seriously, government's crazy right now?

Speaker 2 (17:46):
I know, did you hear? I just got the New
York Times notification They're shutting the whole thing down. They're
shutting the whole government down. Honestly, work for good, honestly,
honestly work. Okay. Finally, yeah, let's do gay shoot. Okay,
So gay shooter. So Macy you know, go with God
of course? Yes, yes, okay, Macy having an apparel sprits

(18:09):
or having anonymous sex at the Ritz? I think the sprits, Yeah,
the sprits?

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Okay, Macy? Could baby Gronk be the next Riz King?
Or Zendia is Michi and Lebron James Is GWANGI.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Zindaia Yeah, yeah, Macy Demi Levado or I'll have a Cartado,
I'll have a Kurtato.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Yeah, okay, this girl is on fire or the boy's
a liar.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Girls on fire?

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Freaking out because you spotted Kirsten Dunst or tweaking out
while listening to music that goes wow, We'll go kiki
not safe for work or too cool for school n
s f W being lgbt Q or I don't have
a problem with all g people. I have a problem
with you.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
The Ladder Yeah, yeah, okay, Lady Gaga doing an ad
for ner Tech, or Sam and George doing an ad
Ford Rex.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
Sam and George, Yeah, I'm so glad that that had
to celebrate pride.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
That was I you know, I hit play on our episode.
I said, let's see how this sounds, and it starts
with an AD and I was like, when the hell did.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
We do this?

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Voices?

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yeah, it's all yeah GBT yeah, And they made me sound.
They made us both sound really mask which was like people, hey, cowboys.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Ramping up before you shoot babies in near your ground.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
I wish they would do that.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Of course, fellas would rather go wrong.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
Inside of a pussy feels real good, but you'll feel
it just as well with an X.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Oh my God, put on a rain goat and make
it right.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
That's a much better app you can use that.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Let's replace that. If any producers listening, well, should we
get into our topic? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (20:17):
So basically, since this is my passion project, I thought congratulations.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
By the way, Yeah, I think it's going really well.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
You know, if anyone out there it doesn't feel that
people believe in them, and they have a really good
idea for an alternative version of their mildly successful podcast,
just keep fighting because one day you're going to be
at the top of the tower in Midtown and you
will be doing your alternative podcast.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
And God will be punishing you with a big rain.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
Yeah. But you're kind of an example for all those
like freaks out there. Anyone who was ever picked on
in school, maybe high.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
School, yeah, the losers, yeah alone, yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah. If you were ever told that what you are
is that what you are is not fucking perfect, to
quote pink, then guess what, hany, this episode's for you.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
If a teacher ever told you, hey, this answer is wrong,
then this episode's for you.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
If a teacher ever told you you can't read and
in fifth grade, this episode is for you.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
If someone, if if if you're a coach said stop
screaming now, then this episode's for you.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
And if you were ever put in an after school
program for kids that had like specific learning needs, but
they made it clear that you don't have a learning
disability and you're not meant to Oh you're just kind
of dumb, this episode is for you.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
That's amazing, Yeah, amazing.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
So since it's my passion project, I thought of some
topics today and can I read of course? So you
know it's this is such a tough do you need
a moment?

Speaker 2 (21:57):
I know this is really personal for you.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
This is so because so often we aren't looking inward. Yeah,
and to sort of examine my own life and be like,
what is my culture?

Speaker 2 (22:07):
You know what? This is giving And I'm sorry to
interrupt you, please, this is giving. Okay. This is like
when an actress directs a film her entire life, She's
been told what to do. She's been told like tits
ad and luck pretty miss tuts mistoots mistuts tits ad
and look pretty mistuts. Okay, that's what That's what they

(22:30):
told that's what they told Sarah Paul. And that's why
they told Kristen Stewart before she directed that boy Genius video.
And they woke up one day and that's, by the way,
what they told Reesweatherston because before she became a mega
producer on the series Big.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
Oh my god, that's true.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
And they and they said, you know what, I know
how the industry works. By this point, I have money,
and I have ideas, and yeah, I've read every single
best seller targeting women this year and I'm going to
adapt all of them for yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
So with that being said, these were my topics. I said, tickets, travel,
threesome's women, weird underwear.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
And the stage.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
You know, I was really hoping that we would pick
weird underwear, but respect.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
I am always touch we can touch on it for sure.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
I have been trying to make weird underwear as a joke,
like I used to do this. I tried to do
this joke on time that obviously it was like one
of like right after like being able to do shows
again in the Pandemic where I was like, okay, like
let's all new stuff and I'd be like, best part
about being gay gotta be the weird.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
Underwear like to exist or like like Christians.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Uh, there's so many, like it's weird weird.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Yeah, it's like more or less like it would be
recognizable as a pair of underwear.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yeah, it's like too big in someblace is too small
in others. There's cutouts in random.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
There's like weird engineering. It's like they kind of stand alone,
like without being on a body.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
The colors, Oh, you're so bizarre.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
It's like a deep purple and a bright orange or something,
or like a coral.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
And a neon green.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
It's almost like a child picked the colors.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yeah, yeah, and a child did. And his name is Andrew. Andrew.
And Andrew Christian is twelve years old and Christian, and
he's being groomed by big underwear. By big underwear. You know,
this is a very few thing to say because okay,
I feel like to catch you up. May see. The
thing with Sam is sort of like sometimes something will

(24:29):
be sort of straight, but because Sam is so deeply
entrenched in gay life, he only knows of it as
a gay thing. Yeah, so it'll be like you know,
going on trips. Well, Sam is like travel. It's like
Sam's like, oh, that's like something gay guys do, and
it's well, yeah, like definitely the gay guys we know
do that. But when I think of trips, I think
like a family yeah yeah yeah, or like an office

(24:49):
retreat or whatever. Like you can argue that it's straight.
This is funny because to me.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
Like men going down on women so gay.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Like complicated underwear is so pioneered buy like women wearing
like sexy laundry. It's like and then also the like
very nineties premise of like a man buying a woman's
sexy laundry. Yeah, I feel.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
Like that is very straight, which is so weird because
like how do you know her size? It's like like
that's like the bra alone. It's like it's like you
need the cup size and the like the wit right right,
I mean in the nipple size and the aerial I mean.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
You can sort of when you go to buy women's underwear.
When I go to the bra to how bigger nipples are?
Is that correct? Yeah? Yeah, they touch them, they take
on a magnifying glass. They're like, we're gonna need a
bigger bra for this for this A lass nipple looking
like salami, unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
It's like a bunch of old smoking women.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
They're calling.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Everybody laughs like everyone laughs.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Okay, so you wanted to do weird underwear.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Yeah, well, I was hoping it would speak most to all,
but what actually spoke to all was women.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
I will say I women's stories matter.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Women's stories matter period. We're actually all going to the
Women's Stories Matter Float after this.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
Yes, yes, and it's not affiliated with Reese at all.
It's some gay guy on Twitter. It's just the jif
on a big TV.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
It is actually sponsored by the first person to make
that a yes.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
Yes, yes, who's now kind of a national and has
just been promoted to CEO of iHeartMedia.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
I do also like the stage. I want to compliment you.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
Oh yeah, the stage.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Topics are really good. Thank you. I'm sorry I led
with negativity.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
What tickets is about.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
Tickets is about like like events and people love to
go to like ticketed events. Like to me, that's like
people yeah at Pride or I'm sorry, I think this
is another one.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
You're of your being too entrenched in LGBTQ life. No,
everyone's always like did you get tickets to that?

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Or like I'm selling my tickets to this?

Speaker 2 (27:11):
And do you think straight people don't do that. I
think they do it way less. Okay, okay, I think
they do it like.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Once a year for like the Big Game, the Big.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
You think gay guys are like, are like, oh, I
just got to snatch up the tickets otherwise, oh oh
my god. And then they don't think about literally they
do that. I think that they're like, oh, might as
well have Caroline.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
I don't know when the next, you know, the tickets
around sale takes around every single day. They have like
color Swatch, like a color Swatches book, but it's all
just tickets to see Caroline Pelichick. And they're like, I
don't know, February, March, September.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
Dusting in at night while watching like selling Sunset.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
No. Tickets are huge in the gay community.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
Yeah, okay, I'll give you. I'll get tickets to the
Fire Island Ferry.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Oh my god, even do anything without ticket these days?
Too good in you.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
So and not to mention the golden ticket Willy Wonka.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Timmy v Shall, and may Dick Vane hat. Gay guys
will know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
You guys know, Gay guys know, you guys know that's
the sound bored thing we need.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Guys, guys.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
No, so okay, So so tickets is valid?

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Is valid? Yeah, we're validating the tickets. I mean the
stage I obviously love.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Yes, yeah, well that one's I thought that would be
interesting because it is complicated, as we all know, when
there's when you are performing on stage and there's gay
people that also want to be performing on stage.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Yeah yeah yeah, and so.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
It's like, yeah, then the audience is the stage. It's
too much performance. There's performance in every direction.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
Yeah. Any Lana show where it's just they're singing the
all the lyrics louder.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
Than her, yeah yeah, shut up, shut up.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Wow. Which my my sibling bought me tickets to Patty
Smith show on New Year's and uh and which is
decidedly not gay. I think in a.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Way we could talk about that for hours. Yeah we'll
just leave that. I could write books and they'd be
better than just oh my god.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
But it was like such a straight audience and it
was literally people just being like.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Love it isn't she great?

Speaker 3 (29:34):
Like it was like because the night there was nobody
doing that.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yeah, well it's a very Patty Smith I think does
draw a sort of NPR crowd.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
Yeah, well it was half MPR and half kind of
like like Booze Cruise, like Jimmy Buffalo, people that are
just like I heard a rock, you know.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Like yeah, punks that are now like sixty yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. Okay, so now we're at women.
And so now we're at women, which okay is obvious. Obvious.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
It's like sort of like this is where it's difficult
to do gay you allow, because for us we're like, well,
what's there to explore?

Speaker 3 (30:13):
Well, it's enough said.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
It's already genius that it's like word two gay guys
and we invited a woman and we're like, yeah, but
I guess Macie, you picked women. You said that's the topic. Yeah,
and so you know, what do you think, like, what
do you think is gay about women?

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Well, aside from gay women, right of course, gay.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Women, right, women can just be gay.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
They can a lot of people don't know this. Yeah
I don't know this. It's not very widespread knowledge. But
they can.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
And it's actually legal too, it was legal before men
were allowed.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
Yes, yeah, which is cool. But yeah, I mean it's
kind of like what you're talking about with the tickets thing.
It's like whenever there's any kind of woman, gay guys
will find a way to like pathologically idolized her or
hate her. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, so like whether or

(31:16):
not it's like a businesswoman with a briefcase or like
your mom or like somebody else's mom or Beyonce or
Lady Gaga. It's like there's like there is a very
gay thing that is like it's kind of related to
trans but it like took a different hallway, you know

(31:38):
where it's like you it's like gay guys like are
women in a way in like a very sixties way,
Like what are you're talking about skart, you know, like
like in like kind of a I shouldn't have said
that way, like degrading way.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
No, no, I think you're pointing. I mean basically the
pathology of being a gay man. And by the way, wait,
this podcast is not just about game men. I want
to make I feel like we're being very gay guys
central Well this is from what's of a gay guy?
Yeah right, If gay.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
Guys are women, then you're silencing women's voice.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
That's true. Oh my god, that's guys and women's voices. Okay, yeah,
but I do think that like the entire dilemma of
being a gay man is basically figuring out psychoanalytically your
relationship to women. Yeah, like to the woman within, to

(32:32):
the woman that raised you, to the women that is
with you at any given moments.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Is sounding very like a monologue from Wild.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Did I tell you my big idea?

Speaker 3 (32:44):
That would be amazing if you just knocked you in
the monologue for a while.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Well, I've been known to do that before. But my
big idea is Okay, okay, this is actually there's not
that much time left in Pride. So if there are
any drag queens listening, please take this idea and do it.
You don't have to credit me. It's a drag queen
named Cheryl Slade and she is dressed as Spoon and Wild.
Oh okay, and because it's Cheryl Strade and Wild, got

(33:09):
I got it. So she's dressed to Cheryl Strade with
the pack with the big backpack, and the number is
the Climb by Miley Cyrus And you just walk slowly
across and it's like she's hiking, she's climbing, and she's
doing the climb. That's actually really good, thank you.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
It could be cool also if there were like dancers
that sort of like God on all fours and they're
the animals and you know you would like climb up
them like they do.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Oh it becomes like a moving kind of yea.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
That yeahchoreo from the idol.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Which I mean speaking of which.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
I haven't seen it. Okay wait, oh wait, we're not
saying on any topic.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Wait okay, So that was my contribution gay men's relationship
to women.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, it's like yeah, it's weird
like feminization that is maybe more like not intentional, but
like happened. I don't know, I'm not a fucking doctor.

Speaker 5 (34:10):
Well, first of all, yourself short you are, and get
into surgery right now.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
Wash those hands, mama, And right there.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
He's flatlining sweetheart, scalp of mama. Scal So wait, I
want to actually say one more thing about queer women,
which is that like, okay, it's funny because and I'm
speaking in binaries right now, but like let's say, okay,
gay men are defined by the women they idolize, the
women they tear down. Fine, then you would think that

(34:47):
gay women were like obsessed with men, not the case
the women.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
So, in fact, that's what makes the concept of women
LGBT Q is that no matter where on the spectrum
with women, yes, yeah, like there, and I think that
applies to pretty much. I mean it's like literally like
anyone on the spectrum, Like there's no one, there is
no one on the spectrum who is like yes men,

(35:18):
maybe like.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
A conservative trans man totally like Angel yes angels like
yes men, angel Is.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Like yeah he did they.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
But yeah you're yeah, no, you're right. But like I
like that point about gay women because it's like they
really could be like on an island, don't need men
for anything.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Right, yeah, Whereas like if gay men were on an island,
they would need a woman there to stand.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
Exactly, they would draw one like yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
It's also sort of why queer women are a stronger
community because they actually uplift their own Where's gay men? Don't? Sure?

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (36:02):
You know, there could never be a game Melissa gay man,
Melissa Everidge, I don't think no.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
And every time there's been an attempt that it's been,
it's gone horribly wrong.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
The same as stand up comedy. I mean, there's so
many famous lesbian comedians name one game male comedian. Literally,
can't I love that? I can't, I can't, I can't
think of a single women Wanda Sykes, Margaret Choe, Ellen,
Paula Poundstone, Rosie O'Donnell. Literally multiple gay women have had

(36:32):
talk shows. Yes, yes, yes, men can't think of have
a single one. No, wow, well I love that, Macy,
who's your favorite woman?

Speaker 3 (36:45):
I think it changes a lot.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Marisa Tomey.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
Sure she's been there, she's been there maybe during the
wrestler era, Yeah, totally yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
What do you look for a woman?

Speaker 3 (37:04):
Complexity?

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Yeah, power, power, yeah, strength, strength actually, but vulnerability but yes, yes,
which is the strength?

Speaker 3 (37:17):
Yeah? Right, say it says right now, I'm loving I
hate to say it. Lily Rose Up, she is.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
You know, I gotta say, I watched the first half
of the first episode. She's killing it.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
I love the show really show Yeah, it's like everything
it's speaking of women. It reminds me all have show girls.
It's very like stupid, you know.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
It's I mean, not whatever, but it's camp.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
Well it it's gadio. I think we're allowed to bring
camp back for.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Right. I've always struggled with you for yeah, because I
hate you for it, exactly, hate you like I watch
you off your rocker. Guess what euphoria straight the idol
gay exactly.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
Oh my god, yes, I didn't even think about that.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Wow. So Sam Levinson bisexual confirmed.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
I actually think it's the weekend that make I think
the yeah queer code, don't you think?

Speaker 3 (38:24):
Well you, I'm sure you've seen the like little monologue
from the second episode where he's like, I'm gonna stretch
your tight little like that is the gayest thing I've
ever seen. Right, It's like straight pulled straight from a grinder.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
You know. Wow?

Speaker 3 (38:39):
True.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
I mean even though.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
He's saying I'm going to stretcher little pussy out.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Yeah, so it's fine. I mean John Early has a
joke about this in his new special, which is that
in retrospect, the Trump tapes are kind of gay. When
he's like, grab him by the pussies, I care like
a gay man's impression of what a straight man would.
And I feel like that's like so extreme, Like I
feel like that very much. Is It's like a man

(39:05):
that is comfortable in his masculinity is not going to.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
No He's like, yes, honey, it stretched that title for me.
I'm gonna put my big, huge cock in your little
tight pussy. I got my big fat tongue. It's gonna
go right on that pussy and then she's like, she's
like a beautiful pop star. I'm like a disgrace to actors.
Child like it's the most insane thing.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
To ever be released.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
I think, huh.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Yeah, yeah, one of them.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
Well, the whale was up there.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Do you know what that I saw? I watched the
Whale finally on a plane, and I think because of
the altitude, I cry. Oh, I cried, for sure. It's
very You're crying while being like this is incorrect, Like
I am for the sake of this scene, I have
to go by their rules, and based on those rules,
I'm crying. Yes, yeah, those are wrong.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
If I don't cry, I'm not fulfilling the complex of
going into this movie.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
The way that you two are on the same page
about very controversial media is shocking to me.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
It's very like we found the only two.

Speaker 6 (40:11):
People that like that stand the idol in the whale.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
Like I didn't know this was possible in today's culture,
which just goes to show you that Gatia lab is
bringing people together.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
True, and we're complex.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
Women are so compecially they can like the idol.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Yeah, women are complex, and so it is Brendan Fraser.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
I started standing a woman on the train today.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Oh my god, who do I know her?

Speaker 1 (40:39):
She was like reading, she was reading one of the
Rings on the train and like it performed, and I
was like, I'm in a movie.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
I'm already buying tickets. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
I was like, this is amazing. This is like it's
like a two thousand and seven, Like totally.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
I think that there's like there are women walking around
New York City constantly and you see them go by,
and you go, that's a movie. She's in her own movie. Yeah,
she's in an HBO series.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
I think you're pointing to the exact I think this
is the right sort of way into this topic. It's
not it's we're not talking about diva worship, yeah, talking
about like Izaah. It's literally that like as you're walking,
it's like it's like in the same way that someone
has a sex addiction and they like can't be around
like women with a decolletage because they're like two turned on.
The gay equivalent of that is like you can't. There's

(41:23):
too many strong, independent women all around me, and I'm
distracted because they all deserve their own show.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
Yes, all you need, you need nothing to set the
scene you need a purse, Yeah, and like looking out
into the distance or like someone like jotting down a note,
looking at.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
Your phone and then being like, oh my god, a.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
Sigh of any kind. I hate series.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
Where I Starbucks when I got this very iced coffee,
there were two teens making out, and I was like,
this girl is having a coming of age moment in
the Starbucks in mid.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
She's being lady Bird in public. Right now, she's literally
later Bird.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
She's about to dive into a pool and perfumed genius
is gonna play this is Happy Summer to all?

Speaker 3 (42:07):
Yes, what's that? What's have you seen? To Leslie?

Speaker 1 (42:12):
No?

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Oh no, we flew too close to the sun about
something we don't have a common No, I haven't seen it. Okay,
but guess Leslie and I feel like the way Too
Leslie got made is like someone looked at a woman
that was Leslie on the street and they were like,
I have to make a movie better. That's what I think.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
Yeah, I'm like, I feel like a lot of that
has been coming out recently to Leslie's.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
Jersey Gloria Bell, Yes, yeah, I love Gloria Bell.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
That's definitely someone who somebody was just like, oh my god,
she's standing in that parking structure, just staring. She's on
her lunch bike.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
What maybe she's going through divorce? Oh my god. Yeah. Wow,
it seems like I gotta watch some more movies. Huh. Well,
you know what, or reads, I think it. I think
it stretches to any kind of media. I mean basically,
I only read books that are narrated by women going
through divorces. Yeah, I highly recommend. Yes.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Okay, wait. I had something about like, how do like
straight men see a woman on the train reading the
book God which a.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
It's literally it's literally too. Leslie is on the subway
and she's like struggling with addiction and meanwhile a man
is like, nice tits on that one. It's like, try
to like drinking.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
I got something for you to drink.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
And she's like, I'm trying to reconnect with my son.
I'm like, I'll give you something to reconnect with trying
to connect with their son. You need a dad. I'll
never understand women like we do. No, no, no no.

(43:55):
I have a question for you. May as a woman,
do you feel like sometimes when you're on the subway,
someone is thinking you're too Leslie. Someone is like she
isn't a movie? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (44:06):
Yeah, is that a lot of pressure?

Speaker 2 (44:08):
Yeah? No, you know, do you.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
Like it sometimes? Yeah? Yeah, I mean that's it. That's
a trans women I feel like are often like get
uh some guy that's just like, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Wait in what way? Like in a guy that is
like in an emotional way, your emotional way, sexual way,
or like a gay guy, gay guy, oh gay gay guy?
Oh who is like standing you in real time?

Speaker 3 (44:36):
Standing you and it's like I love that way. You
just started that dre Oh my god, you smoke cigarettes
so crazy? Oh my god, eat a salad so great? Like,
And I think because it's within the community, it's like,

(44:57):
there's there, it's there. It's fine to say something totally,
which it is. Yeah, you know, but it's I don't
think you would go up to your coworker Melissa and say.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
Oh my god, that salad you ate? Sis? Right? That
is very complicated, Yeah, complicated. You choose a very complex Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
I guess I'm really complex. I guess there's maybe maybe
i'm too leslie.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Ing to Leslie is when you're being complex.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
In a feminine type of way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay. Also,
I want to talk about like I feel like in
the past, straight men had muses a lot, and it
was always like a woman that they would be like, no,
I need to make you a star, like you're inspiring
me to make a film, and it's like, how do

(45:53):
we square that?

Speaker 2 (45:56):
In the gadio lag Well, you know you know who
have a lot to say about that, Hannah Gatsby, And
it's the topic of their brand new exhibition. It's problematic
right now at the Brooklyn Museum.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
Well go see it.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
Have you ever been amused?

Speaker 3 (46:19):
Yes to Hannah Gatsby.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
Well, great work. Yeah, you inspired some really brilliant Yeah,
yourt she changed your name for legal reasons.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
Yes, yes, I was like, it's not that about bad stuff,
but Nette is no.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
But the way Hannah Gatsby I think Hannah Gatsby was like,
this show is going to be about someone named the Nette.
Then I changed my mind, but I kept the time. Okay, Okay,
so we literally still don't it? Okay, Okay, I mean
talk about complicated.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
Have I ever been a mused? Yeah, I think so
to different gay guys in my life totally, but I'm
still friends with them, so I don't want.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
To love their spot.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
Yeah, but yeah, I mean it's it's good.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
Do you have to check?

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Like when they're like, hey, makeson do you want to
get drinks? And you're like, is it because I'm your muse?

Speaker 2 (47:17):
Are you?

Speaker 3 (47:18):
Are you just like mining this for your speech?

Speaker 2 (47:23):
Am I your music? Or you're just happy to see me? Yeah?
They are.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
They always have big erect yea, and they're painting furiously
huge directions.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
Wow No, I mean yeah, I mean I I.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Can a gay guy be amused?

Speaker 3 (47:51):
Well, Sean Hayes is my Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
This is my amuse.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
Next question, I think like a like a beautiful young
twink could maybe be amused.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
Oh sure sure yeah. But then what kind of art
is being created?

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Black and white photography on Fire Island?

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Yeah, maybe a jean brand.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
Maybe a gene brand, but unbuttoned unbuttoned button Yeah, I mean,
if you're buttoning your jeans, you're not amused.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
So I'll say that.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
Number one sign you're amused your jeans are.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
But like a like a you might be a redneck,
but it.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
Sounds like that sounds like something that would be on
like a magnet or a coffee cup, like you might
be amused if you drank that last bottlish like and
it's like a fifties housewife.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
Yeah. Wow wow, I mean okay, so we've talked about like, I.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
Mean, we do need to talk about like deva worship.
If we're gona talk about women, I think we're like
getting there.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
Okay, maybe we should talk about that aesthetic that was
so popular for a while and kind of still is
the like fifties housewife drawing with like, uh, just give
me a reasoning.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
Oh you know I only drink and days that end
in day. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
Yeah, this is like like I feel like drag queens
got obsessed with that in a way where I'm always
like I don't want it anymore. Like they can be
like so talented and they're like doing the housewife thing.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
And again, oh the housewife aesthetic.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
It's same with the pin up aesthetic. Yeah. Well this okay,
This sort of points to one of the main issues
with a lot of things we're talking about, which is, like,
guess what, as much as we can, as much as
gay people can say they love com plex women, they
want them to be complex in a very specific way. Yeah,
and that way is essentially Lana del Rey like they don't.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
Because it's it's Leslie.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
And and I do think that. I mean, this is
where the obvious critique of like is it all rooted
and misogyny comes in, where it's like, can gay people
can queer LGBTQ plus people actually ever stand a real
complex woman?

Speaker 3 (50:32):
Like, like, what is the let's think of the most
complex woman that we've.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
Been Okay, what is the most We're hosting the Complex
Woman Awards, Okay.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
And they're and they're judged by all gay guys. You
guys are literally.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
Trans like the end of bo Is Afraid, where it's
just like a weird like auditorium, but it's all gay guys.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Yeah, it's a weird auditorium.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
It was Afraid kind of was this in a way.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
So I haven't seen it. Well, I did read the
Wikipedia page because I wanted to make sure I can
handle it.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
I love them referencing this as if everyone has seen it.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
It's like no one, Yeah, literally, but I need whatever
I need to see it for Patty, Oh my god,
deva worship. Here we go again. But it's a safer Parker.
It's literally gay guys trying to atone for their sins.
Of being sexist by hosting the Complex Woman Awards. Like,

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we're gonna get to the bottom of this. We're going
to host the Complex Woman Awards.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
Okay, so what is a complex The complex is the
intro Websters defines complex woman as.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Well, you know, iconically in our epolitionary read we defined
a glamour girl as someone who is glamorous, wounded and
seeking truth. Yeah, oh love, And so that's certainly I
think that is the kind of complex woman that gay
people are attracted to. Yeah, yeah, I mean, this is
the reporter with her notebook trying to solve the case.

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It's basically Julia Roberts and Rocks.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
It's Juli essentially, it's uh yeah, Julianne Moore in Anything
More than Anything. Also, but like the reverse is also true.
A performative dressing down, destroyer, destroyer, monster, monster.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
Oh yeah, destroyer, I mean beautiful movie.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
Kate in mud, Yeah, caked and caked, ship and.

Speaker 5 (52:31):
Dirt this episode, Holly Hunter in that in the Top
of the Lake and top and thirteen all the.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
Time, yeah, all the time.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
This episode there will be you will be able to
make a super cut of you guys talk about movies
and be going.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
Simply. Okay, wait, I have one for you. I've seen.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
Five percent of the movie.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
You've seen Monster. No, I have one for you because
I know you just watched this movie the mom and
Rachel getting married, so true, getting married, and also Ann
Hathaway and Rachel getting married.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
Yeah, and the sister yeah get yeah, Rachel getting married
was great for dressing down.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
Yeah. You know Audra McDonald in The Good Fight, Halle.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
Berry Monsters, Yeah, Merrill does it a lot. Yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Okay, So Complex Woman Awards, Okay, we have to make
a decision.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
That's a category.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
Okay, dress dressed down, but maybe there's one. Yes?

Speaker 3 (53:38):
Is it all actresses?

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Well no, no, no, women on the subway? Yeah yeah yeah,
women in New York. And we have to find the
most complex woman. It's a Complex Woman pageant. Yeah. We're
basically so yeah. To battle sexism in the gay community,
we're holding a pageant for women, and we're holding a
pageant for women. And the most complex woman, as judged
by a panel of gay men, win gets a jobs.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
Swan filler filler in botogue.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
We give her a full make of her mame.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
Wow, you get mello facial surgery. You got all your
teeth ripped out and new ones. But wow, okay, so
we've got so mother I think mothers should be.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Mother is a category.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
Mother is, by the way, not not the biologically but Mammy, Mammy.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
The Mommy Award, the Mammy Award.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
Okay, mom of the Year, business woman, business business excellent,
we're literally.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Doing Paris is burning right now.

Speaker 6 (54:43):
And just like category is executive real but for but
for straight women on the subway.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
I do want one that's conservative woman.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
Conservative woman.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
I mean you have to complex. I mean she's gonna win.
I mean that complex.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
There are some of the most complex.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
Did you see what's the shirleyst there in Fox News
movie Bombshell?

Speaker 2 (55:07):
All of them, when all of them, when.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
All of them, when I'm so sorry they win.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
Every single year, they always sweep the awards.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
I'm always fascinated by. You know who is fascinating to
me A Laura Bush?

Speaker 3 (55:18):
Yeah, because you really are like any quiet wife of
a war criminal.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
Anything could be going on. Yes, And I actually do
think she has moments of real progressivism and she has to,
like you know, I think, for instance, she has a
lot of gay friends.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
Okay, is that true?

Speaker 2 (55:35):
I think, oh, you think okay, Yeah, And I think
she like sort of came out pro game rage came out.
She came out as questions. She was like the cue
is valid, Laura Bus. She's like out of nowhere twenty
twenty one, coming ask questions like, well, I thought about it.

(55:55):
I will admit I thought about it. Wis you?

Speaker 3 (56:02):
I don't have an answer yet, but.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Question who among us? Laura Bush coming out of his questioning
would be a great character for you in your cab.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
She's like, you've seen Sama Hi pretty hard. It's a
beautiful woman, looks like maske it. I don't know what
to say.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
Wow, okay.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
Also, Laura Bush has like this like permanent smile on
where it's like Mona Lisa found in the ditch.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
It's like wishes she was Laura Bush.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
Actually they do kind of look similar style Mona Lisa,
like love Laura.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
Does Mona Lisa for the snatchcase. Guess what for Interview
mel Ottenburg. If you're listening for Interview magazine, I want
to photo shoot know Laura Bush styled Mona Lisa mel Ottenburg.

Speaker 6 (56:57):
If you're listening by Vladimir Food, I have I want
a big spread, A big spread. Oh my god, the
icons issue.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
Love them, hate them, it's still an obsession.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
And then Laura Bush is posting like a thrill to
work with photographer at bottom slot bottom, and you click
on their profile and it's only the black and white
twings with the jeans on Laura Bush.

Speaker 3 (57:26):
Oh my god, hair byes Diva, curl wigs number five.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
Make up by Mayhem Miller. I mean you laugh. But
at some point she will be a guest judge on
Drag Race.

Speaker 3 (57:42):
Oh god, I mean Nancy was yeah, oh I thought you.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
I was like, Nancy Reagan, I was like, I missed
that episode.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
They brought her. They brought her corpse and plopped it
on one of those chairs. They were like, Nancy, how
your head falls off?

Speaker 1 (58:02):
She's like, oh my, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
She's like, how that?

Speaker 3 (58:15):
How's that for trickle down?

Speaker 2 (58:23):
My god? Wow, we have a mommy business woman stripping
out category.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
I think we also need like divorced, well divorced, yeah,
just general divorce category. We need like slut oh.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
Yeah, oh my god, that's right. We have not been
celebrating sex.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
Sex and it's yeah, well.

Speaker 3 (58:49):
Kink it pride. It's a big it's a big top.
It's a big topic, especially now that we have Indie pride, right,
we just don't know, we don't know how far.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
That's a good question, is kinkle out indie?

Speaker 3 (59:01):
Well that's when you get into like sounding and and like.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
Uh, I don't want to see can't get indie problem,
You don't want to can get indie pro Sarah pol
Sarah poly sounding station.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
Yeah you get.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
You get lots of stuff over there, you get lots
of stuff of Sarah sounding station. Yeah, you got so No,
can't get in harmonde care in human tampon. Hm.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
It gets really gnarly. It's really gnarly, and.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
So yeah that's important.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
I remember, Yeah, you kind of do want it behind
closed doors.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the Fox search Light human sentiment. All right,
we're being bad. Where do we go from here? I
have literally no idea. I've never been more lost in

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my life. I feel like we've This has been such
a groundbreaking episode of Gadio Lab.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
It's insane and I and just to be I just
want to say this now while we're still recording. Sam,
you had an idea and you fucking did it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
You're basically lydia tar.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
I'm being so lydiatar right now. Lydia Tar would definitely
slay at the awards.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
Oh my god, she would sweep a lot of the categories.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
Yeah, conservative woman, conservative women women, business woman.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
I mean canceled woman, even canceled.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
Yeah, I'm murting for Barry Wise.

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
Wait, who is that she's like?

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Was wrote for the New York Times opinion section and then,
rather than make fire, just quit and wrote about how
she was pushed. Now, oh, she's one of these like
anti cancel culture like yeah, oh short shor.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
But yeah, but your selt category needs to be present.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
This is starting to feel less like Parents is Burning
and more like the like Westminster Dog Show.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Right, well, it's degrading. Let's be honest. Let's be honest
with ourselves.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
It's basically best in show best.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
It is the one of the most degrading things one
could possibly imagine. I think I think the complex one
would have been canceled. I think, I mean, the thing is,
and it's.

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
It's ran by Huffpa.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
I think the only way to make this work is
if it is, I mean, then you just go. Basically,
it should be just a little fair. It should be
like queer women judging other queer women.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
Yeah, yeah, which is really the best way to judge.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
They should do that. They should do a rouphouls drag
race that is just like queer women owned and operated. Yes,
it's like she owns a tire store. And then everyone's like,
I loved what you did with those socks, like they're
really original. Yeah, those hiking boots look very comfortable, guess

(01:02:23):
judge Rachel Maddow.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
Yeah, it's like the temperature and you're perfect. Who did that?

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
Yeah, I also love these stereotypes of queer women that
were putting totally. I think it's really brave.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
No one does that anymore, don't you think no one's
allowed to No one's aowed to make generalizations are queermen anymore?

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
It's like, yeah, it's like how the idolist bringing back
like kind of the nineties thriller Fatal Attraction remake, Like
we're bringing back like SUPERU jokes, super joke, yes, jokes
about women. Yeah, and lesbians, Yeah, say lesbians.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
You can say, queer women don't have to be lesbians,
thank you, Macie. Jesus. Is this episode offensive?

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
I think so?

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
I agree, Yeah, I think this episode is one of
our more offensive.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
Yeah. I feel bad every time I come here. I'm like,
no calling Neil Patrick Harris the sag word. I'm creating
a pageant for women.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
Do you feel like you're being almost like by being
part of this conversation, sort of joining us in degrading women.
Do you feel like you're being complicit in a sort
of oh, I'm just a guy's gal type of way.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
Yeah, I'm like the Jenny McCarthy exact network.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
Because you could have at any point put your foot
down and be like stop saying that about too, leslie,
and that you joined in made jokes. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
women tearing down women.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
If you can't call women the sea word complex.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
Then we're making merch complexes. Then you see words, you
know how they were like, oh the B word is bossy.
Oh I love that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
Okay too, because even mentioning the sea words kind of
kind of risky.

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
Oh people got mad at me? Yeah, people in this room, Yeah, exactly. Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
There's about fifty people behind the cameras, behind the mics,
and they're all glacious.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
It's literally an it's actually an all women crew. And
they're all like horrified and you're like their arms crossed,
like I thought these were just they're all gay guys.
They're all whispering to each other. Wow. I mean, but
I think it brings up.

Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
If it brings we're not we're not asking any questions,
but we're gesturing towards problems of misogyny of other stuff.
I'm sure warming.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Yeah, warming, yeah, yeah, well, the constitution, the dead ceiling, yeah,
the dead, the becoming elections, yeah, yeah, of course, they're
always just so may see, Like, as a woman, what
do you think? And because I feel like, you know,
you've been sort of out a remove you're like, oh,

(01:05:20):
this is what we're going to do with these women
that we're gonna put in this room, But I want
to put the spotlight on you as a woman. What
do you think for anyone listening that wants to be
an ally to women, what are the issues currently facing women?
And what can we do to be better allies to women.

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
Currently facing women issues.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
Specifically and maybe even specifically address the gay guy community.

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
Yeah, okay, I think that women's stories just need to
be told.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
Yeah, I was gonna say that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
It's a huge problem. It's just like there's not enough
stories being told totally, so in general in general, mainly
for women.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
Mainly for women. Women's stories matter.

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
And what was the other be half of the question, how.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
Can we be better allies to women?

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
Oh, if you see it to Leslie on the street, right,
that movie, you know, write that movie about that woman
with a briefcase.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
So the movie should be written by gay men only, Yeah, only.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
That's your way to give back to women, you know,
by making them iconoclastic, by making them these you know,
these figures. And you know, I think that because we
were talking about men, straight men don't see women the
same way. I think maybe you should amp up some

(01:06:43):
of the like features of their personality, their bodies.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
Maybe have them in like.

Speaker 3 (01:06:47):
Corsets and big bras, big wigs, if they even get
a little bit sad, make them cry hysterically, just to
really drive the point home. I think this is like
a really fair way for a word.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
Yeah, you know, perfect all right. So, any gay guys
out there listening, if you see a woman, write a
movie about her, I think that or.

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
A stage or stage or mini series'.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
Series that maybe maybe a one woman show where it's
the gay guy in dragon the story of that woman.
It could be fun. That could be really fun. That
could be maybe a novel. No, who's reading anymore? Say that? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
Okay, perfect, Well that sounds amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
Thanks for that advice.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
Yeah, do we have anything else you want to say
about women?

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
Macie vote? Yeah, because guess what, all right, start depending
on it. It's true, not just women's rights.

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
Although women's rights are wrapped into men's right.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
Women's rights are human rights, and.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
So if you want to keep your men's rights, you
should start caring about women's rights.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
That's that's the only reason. Yeah, that's on democracy. Howney mauma. Well,
no one has ever said we need to start doing
that again. I love when we you say mama mama,
like rather than mama, mama, mama. It's like I have

(01:08:31):
a friend. John Copeland was like was on and he
was like in a sort of New Jersey Acient was like,
oh is this padam padam padam padam?

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
I mean should we do our final segment? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
Please take the reins on this so fans will know
that we always end our show with a little segment
called shout Outs, which is an homoage to straight culture.
But this ain't Stradio Lab Sweetheart, This is iHeart Presents,
Big Twenty Players Presents Stradio Lab presents Gay and So

(01:09:12):
today instead of shout outs, we will be paying homage
to the great gay tradition and doing branded content from
a queer creator, which is an amazing new segment.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
Okay, so we are doing Yeah, we're each doing a
branded segment where we promote a queer.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
Product or any product we're enjoying, any product we're enjoying,
doing it in a queer way, in a queer way.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
Okay, I'll start great.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
Okay, Hey everybody, Hey, my LGBTQ plus fam, I hope
you're enjoying pride. You know, for me, pride is all
about getting together and it's all about having fun, but
it's also all about energy. And I get my energy
from Starbucks drinks. I went to a Starbucks today in
Midtown Manhattan, and I saw teens coming of age and

(01:10:04):
I needed a cold brew because I said, honey, I
don't have that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
Energy anymore that you teach kids have. But you know
what what does give me that energy? A cold brew.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
I am jittery, I am shaking, I am unable to
form sentences, and I am feeling so LGBTQ and so
me and I love Starbucks and I love my community
aka Chosen Family all Starbucks employees XO XO Sam.

Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
I thought we were sort of launching new products, but
I think both can work.

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
I mean, well, if you want to launch a product.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
I'm lying. I'm part of the first round of influencers
that was contacted to promote a new product. See, I
was partnering with Starbucks launch.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
I launched Starbucks in general.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
Yeah, well I'm partnering with Starbucks.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
Well, they just canceled their actual pride campaign and now
they're doing it only through queer podcasts, so that like
no other people.

Speaker 3 (01:10:57):
Right right right, we don't have anything go.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
People don't have to know that, samlike start yeah, ky
little kittens. This is George, the co host of the
podcast Radio Lab, and of course the writer of my
queer newsletter where I talk about you know, pop culture
and other things that we all care about. It's called
My Way Sis, and I'm here to promote a brand

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new pharmaceutical product, the Cube Pill. It's a pill for
LGBTQ plus identified people that don't have a mental illness,
but something feels off. So you wake up every day,
you take fourteen pills, and then you feel sort of balanced.
For the rest of the day, so it's non specific.

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It can cure things like, you know, slight anxiety from
having to meet a deadline, things like, oh, it's been
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still are not sure what to say, things like honey,
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that guy on grinder? And have I hooked up with
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(01:12:10):
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Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
No god, no, all right, all right, not that you
have it?

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
Bye mine. So, Macie, you can either launch your own
product or partner with an existing one. Well I I.

Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
It is a new product by some brands that you
might be familiar with. It's a collab between myself, Taco Bell,
and Nozembeg oh my god. And the one of the
big drawbacks of ozembic is that it's a shot and
you don't really eat on it, and so that's kind
of boring. You know, eating is fun. It's an American pastime,

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that's what I always say.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
It's culture.

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
Yeah, and so with this, it's a butt plug.

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
And so you you got you can get any talk
a belt. It's got tons of them. And basically the
butt plug you put it in, you press the button,
it basically shoots out little needles into your racktom and
that delivers the ozempic. And this this formulation kind of
works in a slightly different way. You can shovel the

(01:13:40):
food in. You you have a huge apptit, you actually
have a partier appetite. But it looks kind of like
a microphone at the end, like it's got little holes.
And what it does is when your the food goes in,
it travels through the butt plug and is it comes
out as like a perfume of your choice.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
It's all so wow.

Speaker 3 (01:14:02):
And so it's a really innovative product. We're really proud
of it. I'm using it right now.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
It's what I'm getting sandaled with.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
Yeah, yeah, very summary.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
Yeah very yes, yes, yes, they've got a whole summer campfire.

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
I would say, yeah, yeah, it's the Margella yes, yeah, marginal, Yeah,
it's woodsy but feminine.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
Wow, well that's so amazing. It's crazy. I love that
we have the ozempic, Taco Bell, cent Berd, the Q pill,
and of course Starbus.

Speaker 3 (01:14:35):
Yeah, well all of them.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
I do want to say, you can't do the ozempic
but plug while on Q pills because it will lead
to immediate death, violent death where you will explode from
the inside. Okay, first, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
I kind of glazed over the fine print, but that's.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
Totally you know, it's like whatever, and they're both, you know,
great products, and some people will prefer one and some
people prefer this.

Speaker 3 (01:15:01):
It's true.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
Luckily, you can drink Starbucks no matter what you put
in your mouth or a butthole.

Speaker 3 (01:15:05):
Yeah, actually you should. You should. That zepig thing doesn't
start working to Starbucks Starbucks Active.

Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
I tell you have a Vanila Machiata.

Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
Exactly, which is weird because it's it's Taco Bell.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
Yeah, but you know they're all owned by the same media.
Yeah yeah, wow, wow, Well, this has been an amazing episode.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
Not agree more. I'm well, I'm fearful of it to
come out, but I have I feel like this is
exactly what I wanted today. You know, when I came
in and I was like, I want this to be
improv I wanted to be we tell ourselves stories in
order to live. Honey, I'm living.

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
Yeah, yeah, you know. I think people will clock my
big paws up top. And and I came into this
being like, wow, I'm gonna do a podcast today.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
Yeah, we did it, and all thanks to the winner
of the Complex Woman pageant. Congratulations you beat Lydia Tour
Chandelier players.

Speaker 1 (01:16:14):
Barbara Bush is crying.

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
Stabbing herself in the eye. She's like, why did I
do it? Why did I do it? Why did I
do it? Oh my god? All right, Well see you
at next year as Awards. Get tickets to the event. Yeah,
it's a really complicated process. You have to download a
new app.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
It's a complex it's a complex process for complex women.

Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
Okay, bye, bye bye