Episode 273: Faces of Death & Mondo Cane! PLUS Bigfoot Solved?

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yeah, ready to be amazed by the wizard of Weird.
This is Strange JOSHUAE Warren. I am JOSHUAAPE Warren, and
each week on this show, I'll be bringing a brand
new mind blowing content, news, exercises, and weird experiments you

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can do at home, and a lot more. On this
edition of the show, Faces of Death and Mondo Kane
plus Bigfoot Solved. And don't worry if you don't know

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what Mondo Kane is, I'm going to explain. By the way,
that's Italian. I don't speak Italian, so hopefully I'm saying
that correctly. If I did speak Italian, I'd probably sound
like Jared Leto in the House of Gucci. But I
am recording this show in January of the year twenty

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twenty six, So for me, I am sort of envisioning
this whole brand new year laid out before me, and
I therefore have some topics that I think kind of
apply to the zeitgeist, the state the world is in
right now, as well as just general outlook that we
all can sort of relate to whenever we reach these

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new chapters where we're trying to look at the future
and figure out how things will play out for us,
how to improve our lives, how to make the world
a better place. But before I get into how this
sort of ties together in my mind, there is a
story I have to tell you. This is something I
think about every January, and I'm sure I've told this

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story at some point over the years, but it's good
enough it's worth telling again because when people ask me
why that I believe in ghosts, this is one of
the reasons. This is one of the experience seriences that
sort of made my jaw drop. You may or may
not know that for many years I owned a museum

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in my hometown of Asheville, North Carolina. It eventually became
known as the Ashville Mystery Museum. Had all kinds of
local historic artifacts and things from my adventures and investigations. Sadly,
the museum is no longer around because its last destination
was the basement of the Ashville Masonic Temple and there

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was a big flood. You know, Ashville gets some serious
flooding sometimes and that basement always had a problem with flooding,
and so there was a flood. I think it was
around twenty twenty, and there was so much damage that
we just had to kind of remove everything from the
whole basement and clean it. And then of course the
pandemic was kicking in, and just there was a storm
of things that happened, and so most of the objects

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went into storage where they are right now. Some of
the objects were shipped out here to Las Vegas where
I now live, to be in my collection. As a
matter of fact, sometime this year, I am probably going
to start selling some of the amazing items that I've

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had in storage all these years from the Asheville Mystery Museum,
and many of them are absolutely one of the kind.
So if you want to know about that and get
first DIBs when some of that's available. Be sure you
sign up from my free e newsletter at Joshua Pwarren
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period when you type in Joshua Pee Warren dot com

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and takes you two seconds to fill that out. Well, anyway,
here's the story. The first major location for the museum
was this old rock jailhouse sort of built into the
side of the embankment in front of the Ashville City

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Building and the Buncom County Building City County Plaza. Small, little,
I don't know how big it was, but it was
a pretty basic square rock building. Again, it was literally
a part of the embankment. I think it was kind
of holding the embankment up there. And right across the

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street was where they have the old gallows at one
point where they would execute people and prisoners would sit
there in jail at night and they would hear the
executions happening outside. It was a very haunted building it is.
It sits right behind what is currently a restaurant called

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Pack's Tavern, And as last I heard, that building is
that little building that jail is just being used for storage.
Or something. I don't know, But one year I actually
got snowed in there, and all by myself. I had
tried to leave on another occasion when that happened, and
my car ended up in a ditch, and so I

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waited too late, and I got snowed in, and so
I was not prepared. So here I was lying on
the floor. I'd made myself like a little pillow out
of some just jackets and shirts and stuff. And I
have this big, heavy wool trench coat that I've worn
for years, and that was my cover. And I mean,

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this thing is I don't know, there's no telling how
many pounds this trench coat is. So here I was
laying on the floor by myself. The whole city was desolate,
because you know, snow is everywhere. Everything's closed. It was
cold in there, and in the middle of the night,
something jerked this big, heavy wool coat right off of

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my body and I bolted up, and it was freaky.
It was freaky. I have never been able to explain that,
and I have I don't think I slept very well
the rest of that night, and I made sure I
never got snowed in there again. But the story I
really want to tell you is that on January twenty

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third of the year twenty eleven, I was at home
and I got a call from the lady who worked
for me at the museum. Her name was Cat, and yes,
Cat was very proficient when it came to the knowledge

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of metaphysics and the paranormal. But she wasn't the kind
of person who just goes around making up wild stories.
She didn't have that kind of imagination. She was a
very logical person in that sense. And so she called
me up on January twenty third of twenty eleven, and
she was freaking out, and she said, Josh, I had

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to leave a little early. Something happened to me. She
had been there at the museum all by herself. And now,
of course we would the winter is always very slow,
so usually, like in January, you might have people just
kind of wander in and out. We would open up
the museum and I don't know, kind of like maybe
ten am and keep it open to like five or six,

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I don't remember exactly, and we'd always have at least
one person who would sit there and kind of attend
the museum. Of course, the museum was free. As a
matter of fact, anybody could come in there, walk around
Sea Air collection. We had a nice little movie theater
in there was a cool little spot. And she said
that at one point she was going back to the
bathroom and she turned a corner and she was stunned

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to walk right into a large, dark figure, clearly some
type of a man. And at first, I mean, it
shocked her because she thought she that somebody had been
in there that she didn't know about, and she just
ran right into this person. And she, of course she

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jumps back with a bolt of fear, and this dark
figure has now vanished, But it was such a tangible
thing for her running into to that phantom, if you
will that, I mean, it really freaked her out. So
I said, well, we're definitely gonna have to go investigate
that spot more. And I guess it was less than

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an hour later I got a call from my friend,
local historian Vance Pollock, and Vance knew absolutely nothing about
what had happened to Kat a little earlier that day,
and Vance said, Josh, listen to this. I just discovered

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an old newspaper article. He said that during the time
when the jail was in use, at one point the
sheriff was named John Liarly, and as a matter of fact,
the liary had been in local law enforcement for a
long time in the early nineteen hundreds, and even Thomas

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Wolfe wrote some about him, and by all accounts, Lyarley
was not a very nice guy. I won't get into
all the details, but basically Vance found out that John
Lyarley had committed suicide in that building, that there was
one point where it had sort of like a little
garage area where he could pull his car in there,

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and apparently he had his car was somewhere in this
little area and he steps out of his car, uses
his service revolver, shoots himself in the head and kills himself.
And Vance said, today is the eighty seventh anniversary of

(10:47):
when John Lyley did this. I said, what, Yeah, it
was January twenty third of nineteen twenty four when John Lyley,
Sheriff Lyarley shot himself killed himself. They're in that building,
and you tell me, you tell me what are the chances,

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what are the chances that KAT would have that encounter?
And then less than an hour later, Vance, who knew
nothing about the situation, would tell me, oh, yeah, that
was the anniversary. You know what the next January twenty
third and twenty fourth, I went there and I investigated,
and he didn't come back again those times. But if

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you have access to that building, you might want to
keep an eye out around those dates. That kind of
stuff is way too much for coincidence. It makes me
believe in the reality of whatever a ghost is, or
an imprint, some kind of anniversary spirit that reappears. Anyway.
We're up on a break. When we come back, I'm

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going to get into this thing about faces of death,
and I don't want to get the year off to
a somber start here, but it's not really somber. It's
actually inspirational. But we have to explore, you know, the
whole spectrum of things, and then yeah, we're gonna get
into some bigfoot stuff as well. Who knows what I'll

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get around to. Like I say, if you want to
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A lot of stuff is sold out. Of course. I'm
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I will be right back. Welcome back to Strange Things

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on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast a m paranormal
podcast Network. I am your host, the Wizard of Weird,
Joshua P. Warren, beaming into your worm whole brain from
my studio in Sensity, Las Vegas, Nevada, where every day
is golden and every night of silver. Zietto zoom. Despite

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the fact that I am a big film buff, I
usually am very good at film trivia. I I just
recently started hearing this term Mondo Kane, and I didn't
know what it meant. A genre of films, as it
turns out, but it starts with one movie that was

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released in nineteen sixty two by some Italian filmmakers, and
they marketed this as a documentary. Mondo Kane means Dog's
World or dog World, which is apparently they say it's

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a coarse Italian expletive. I don't understand, because we don't
understand exactly what that means. I guess it's something like
saying that, well, the world is an absurd place and
there is a lot of, you know, like unsavory stuff
that goes on. And I say that because here's what

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made this documentary so unique. These guys decided that they
and I'm going to describe this first of my own words,
because I recently watched this movie Mondo Kane. It's about
it's long, it's almost two hours. I mean, it's a feature.
They essentially took documentary type film footage from all around

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the world, and they wanted to show things that were
shocking in some way, especially to a Western film audience,
and they essentially took some authentic documentary footage and presented it,
or in other cases, they would take things that were
real but exaggerate them or slant them very heavily, or

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in some cases they just outright makeup stuff and pass
it off as documentary footage. And they put this all
together into this big, sort of rambling film that has
vignettes around the world and again presented as a legit documentary,
and it shows sort of people engaged in bizarre and

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off and outrageous things. So, for example, they might be like,
here's how some of the elite rich people in New
York City eat, and they would show them in a
fancy restaurant and the waars come out and they bring
them all worms and spiders and insects, and they're eating
all this gross stuff as if it's fine dining. And
then they'll be like, on the other hand, here's how

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people eat in this other far away country, and they
show people, you know, doing all this like disgusting stuff
with animals, and then they'll be like, now here is
a rite of passage in this other culture where they
show like women from a tribe that are they supposedly
hunt down men, and whoever catches the man has, you know,

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forces the man to mate with her. And it's just
like one thing. There's dozens and dozens of these vignettes presented.
They say, it's let me explain how it's technically, this
film is described, all right. The film consists of a
series of travelog scenes that provide glimpses in the cultural

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practices around the world, with the intention to shock or
surprise Western audiences. The scenes are presented with little continuity
as they are intended as a kaleidoscopic display of shocking
content rather than presenting a structured argument. Despite its claims
of genuine documentation, certain scenes are either staged or creatively

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manipulated to enhance this effect. And this movie was a
huge success internationally. It made tons, tons of money at
the box office, despite in some cases it was banned.
As a matter of fact, it was even nominated for
the prestigious Palm d'Or at can Film Festival, and that's

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the highest prize awarded at the can Film Festival. Palm
door means golden palm, and it has a golden palm
leaf on it, I guess because they have palm trees
around there. So this movie was a huge hit. And
at that time, in nineteen sixty two, the public was
not nearly as discerning as we are now about, you know,

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figuring out fact versus fiction. And most people watch this
documentary and they took it as a literal documentary and
they believed everything they saw was being presented in an
unbiased way, just as they saw it in the movie.
And of course, this movie in retrospect now is as
criticized as promoting a lot of you know, like divisive topics,

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making out people who live in foreign countries to look
like savages, and you know, just exploiting people's cultures in
a certain way only to create this shocking sort of effect.
But most people at that time in the world, they
believed what they were seeing was a scholarly sort of presentation.
And then it was very well done, very well put together,

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and I you know, there are some things you might
find disturbing if you watch it, but that's the point.
That's the point. Well, nobody'd ever made a movie quite
like that, like Mondo Kane, and it was so successful
that immediately all these other people came in and started
becoming copycats. For one thing they started, of course, they
made sequels to Mondo Kane. But then, yeah, lots of

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other movies came in. And I'm not going to try
to go down a list. You can look into this
yourself if you're interested. But people started creating these things
that are not quite mockumentaries, but they're just documentaries that
are very selectively you know, designed, shot and edited in
order to create this kind of gritty, uncomfortable feeling and

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in some cases outright you know, sometimes in some of
these movies things are just very violent and gruesome. And
I tell tell you this because they say that this
all culminated in a movie that made a significant impact
on me when I was growing up. And I bet
you've seen this movie or at least heard of it.

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It was all It was a movie that came out
in nineteen seventy eight called Faces of Death. And this
is considered by film historians a mondo horror film because
if you've never seen Faces of Death, it's the same
type of thing where they go in and they show

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different ways in which people die all over the world
and explore everything related to it, including after life encounters,
and present it in such a documentary style that lots
and lots of people, especially kids, when they saw this
in the nineteen seventies, believed that it was a real documentary. Like,

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for example, there's a scene where there's a guy who
is filmed being electrocuted in an electric chair. It's very
memorable because it's very graphic. And you know, my wife Lauren,
she told me just the other day that she was
surprised when I told her that that was not a
real scene. She thought that was a real scene. When

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she's no, she's basical on seeing it at a younger age,
but I was like, no, they totally made that scene up.
It was just a re reenactment, but they don't present
it that way. And Faces of Death was so successful.
It was made for sixty seven thousand dollars and the
official box office is thirty five million dollars, but I'm

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sure it made a lot more than that. It's definitely
one of the most profitable movies ever made. And again
this inspired people to start trying to copy that, and
they made many of these Faces of Death movies. And now,
as an adult who has seen tons of films, I
can go back and I could watch Mondo Kane and

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Faces of Death, and I can say like, well, this
is obviously not a legit, like honestly presented documentary. It's
for entertainment purposes. But that is from me being a
guy here in the year twenty twenty six, and looking back.
It's easier to see it when you are you're looking

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at it with the context of all of the special
effects that are possible. Blah blahah blah. Now you might
ask yourself, now, this is a very interesting, interesting topic
just as a trivial thing, but you might ask well,
why am I telling you that. I'm telling you this
because I believe that this concept now is really becoming

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a formidable, a formidable force with new AI technology that AI.
And trust me, I use AI all the time, so
I'm very familiar with it as not as amazing and
impressive right now as you may think it is, or
as you're being told, But let me tell you, it's

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getting there and it will happen. And I think this
year is going to be an especially big year because
of how quickly things are evolving. And now when you
get on the internet, the whole Internet, it seems almost
like it's a part of Mondo Khane culture because you

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really just cannot look at anything and believe it at
face value. And this is especially frustrating for people in
my field who are out there trying to analyze paranormal imagery,
you know, UFOs and ghosts. I mean, it's almost impossible now.

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You certainly can't do it on a cursory, superficial level,
on a surface level. I mean you've got to dig
much much deeper, and you've got to know sources, and
you have to have details in metadata, and like you
really have to go the extra step, and so I

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just thought it was interesting that I recently learned sort
of about how this sort of thing happened in the
world of filmmaking in the nineteen sixties, and now we're
seeing this taken to sort of the ultimate level in
my mind, where AI is taking little bits and pieces
of truth and warping it. And this is mind control

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in the real world, and you have to be concerned
about that. When we come back for this break, I said,
I had some Bigfoot stuff to talk about, and this
is an example of how the world changes and how
over time people start thinking about things a little bit differently.

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And I got to say I believe I was ahead
of the curve on this one. I'm Joshua Pee Warren.
You're listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast
to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network, and I will be
back after these important messages. Welcome back to Strange Things

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all the iHeart Radio and Coast to Coast. I am
Parahnormal Podcast Network. I'm your host, Joshua Pee Warren, and
this is the show where the unusual becomes usual. You know,
if you are if you're a thoughtful person, then there's

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no way that you can't be bothered to some degree
by the idea that if you do, let's say, hypothetically,
if you do everything that you're supposed to do in
life perfectly, that I mean, like, let's you don't cuss,
you don't think bad things about people, you don't drink,

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you don't smoke, you don't take drugs, You're hard working,
you're charitable, you you do everything your doctor tells you
to do. You eat right, you X size what you
make straight a's in life, You're still gonna die. Now. Look,

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I'm not trying to be depressing. I just know that
you're not alone if you think about that sometimes, and I,
of course I believe that we continue on and we
have other lives. Do we remember our past lives? Probably not.
What's the point. At some point I may do a
story on reincarnation. I kind of avoided that so far

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because that most of those stories are just anecdotal, and
all I can do is just read you what other
people have supposedly said. I how do I know, but
you know estimate how many people have lived and died.
So but there's nothing you can do. The point is
just you have to enjoy this little window that you
have here and see how many positive things you can

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do each day, and you know, stop with being overly
logical about things and trying to criticize everything. Also, I mean,
think right now of who you hate and just stop it.
Just stop it right now. What good is it doing?
And you know, it seems like the more we learn

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about how the Internet is a model for reality, the
more that we start to see it's true that this
thing that we call reality is sort of a program.
It's a software program, and you, to a certain extent,
are able to program it and to change it and

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to make your experience better for yourself and others. And
you know, that's one That's why I'm always talking about
the positive spin on this, trying to manifest the best
experience you can have, and whether you use tools to
do it or you use certain meditations, there are different things.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
You know.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
I have a hard time with it, so tools help
me a lot. That's why I talk about, you know,
the tools that I use, things that I create. But
and you know, here living in Vegas, I I honestly,
I'm not trying to brag, but anybody who knows me
knows that I win way more jackpots than I should statistically.

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I was, there's a small I go, well, there's a
there's a chain of small casinos strewn around Las Vegas
called Dotties and uh, and there's not much to it.
Small room. You go in there, they give you a drink,
there's some machines at the bar. They might give you
a piece of pizza. I don't know, because I just
basically never go to Dotti's for some reason. It's just

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it's not I usually I'd rather go to a larger place.
But anyway, my wife Lauren was grocery shopping the other
day and I didn't feel like grocery shopping. And I
think that most of the time she doesn't even want
me shopping with her because if she feels pressure, because
I just want to get in and out of there.
And there was a Dotties next to the grocery store.
I said, I'm going to go over here and gamble

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with the Dotties on meet you when you're done. Let's
see if I can pay for groceries. So I go
over there. I sit down at Dottie's and sure enough,
and you know, I was there for like thirty minutes.
I was stretching. My time I hit a jackpot, the
woman comes over who works there, and she said, let's
see your player's card, and I said, I don't have one.
She said, what, you don't have a player's card. I
said no, and she goes, you don't have a player's card?

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I said no, I never come to Dotties. She says,
I've worked here for twelve years, and you're the first
person I've ever seen who's hit a jackpot without a
player's card. Having a player's card kind of implies that
you're there a lot. And so anyway, look, I believe
that there are things that you should you can program,

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certain things that happen with your mind. And let's say
you have reached a point where you're I'd say your
middle age, like me, Okay, next year, I'll be uh
is it this year? Good lord? Yeah? This year? Yeah,
gonna be fifty this year. Once you get to be

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middle aged, then you might think to yourself, Look, if
I have not become a multi millionaire already, it's not
gonna happen. I am. I'm not going to develop a
new talent. I'm not going to uh invent a better

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mouse trap or a better light bulb, or you know,
I don't have any rich ancestors who are gonna who
are gonna leave me. If you know, you might just
be like, that's not gonna happen. And then but then
you may have seen just recently the story about these
three brothers and their mother died. This is in northern California.

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So they go to clean out her house. They're going
through the attic and they find a cardboard box which
with a bunch of old newspapers in it. And as
they go through the newspapers, they fined at the bottom
a Superman comic number one, nineteen thirty nine, Superman comic

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number one, and they say, wow, this is probably worth
some money. The comic was purchased for just ten cents originally.
They took it and had it grated, and they said,
this is a nine out of ten. It's the highest

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grade for any known copy of Superman number one. Well,
up until this point, the most money ever paid for
a comic book was six million dollars. Well, they just
auctioned this comic book off and it brought in nine
point one two million dollars, becoming the most expensive comic

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ever sold. Don't ever lose hope, thanks mom. They said that,
you know it just the conditions it was in it
just it was just lucked out, you know, the environmental
conditions that preserve this thing. And who you just never know.

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You know. Rom Das he has this story that I
write about and my book used the force you never know,
And it kind of goes like, well, you know, there
is a family that had a beautiful horse. I'm sure
this is probably like in the eighteen hundreds or something,
and the horse runs away, beautiful female horse, a mayor.
She runs away, and the neighbor goes, oh, that's terrible luck.

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And I goes, well, you never know. The farmer says,
you never know. And then she comes back a couple
of days later. She has a magnificent stallion with her,
and the neighbor says to the farmer, that's a boy.
What good luck, And the farmers's way, you never know.
And then his son gets on the stallion and is
writing it and the sun gets bucked off and breaks

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his leg, and the neighbor says, oh, what terrible luck,
and the farmer says, oh, you never know. But then
after that there was a war broke out and they
were coming through consigning young men to go into the military,
and it was a disaster. All the young men died.
But they didn't pick his son because his son had
a broken leg. And the neighbor says, Wow, you're so lucky,
and the farmer says, you never know. Hopefully I didn't

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screw that up, but you get the idea. Don't ever
think that you're screwed. Well, look, when we start thinking
about this idea that the world is programmable, it is
a matrix. It's something that you can go on and
you can affect with your attitude and your mentality. And

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I think this definitely applies to some of these cryptids
and other weird beings that are found. And I have
said for years and years, going way way way back,
that I believe that the only way we can believe
that Bigfoot is real is if Bigfoot is some kind

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of an interdimensional or alien or phantasmal type paranormal being.
And I say that because so many people say that
they see Bigfoot that I believe those people are telling
the truth. I don't think they're crazy. I don't think
they're hallucinating. I don't think they're imaginating imagining things. But
there is so I mean, the hair and the scat

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would be so rampant if there were any even a
small population of Bigfoot, There'd be so much more hair
on trees, there'd be so much more scat, so much
more of an impact on the ecology, that it would
be easy to have evidence that if Bigfoot is just
a big, normal biological creature, a big ape out there

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in the forest, it would be easy, especially this day
and age, to prove that. But we don't have any
conclusive proof of any of that stuff, in my opinion,
And so the tide has been turning. The tide has
been turning saying, well, more and more people are coming

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forth saying that actually Bigfoot does things that apes, normal
apes don't do. Bigfoot is seen sometimes literally appearing in
an orb of light and disappearing in an orbit of light,
or shooting off into the sky and vanishing. And you
have these footprints from credible people, you know, they're trackers,

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they're following big Foot footprints, and the prints just end
mid trail, as if Bigfoot has just suddenly teleported away.
And recently David Politis, who's famous for his Missing four
one one series, he released a documentary that I recently
enjoyed where he comes to the same conclusion. It's called

(37:03):
American sasquatch man, myth or monster. And I don't want
to put words in his mouth. And he's not the
first person to say this. I think he's saying, like
we've concluded, Bigfoot is more than just a big ape.
There's another movie I've talked about before called A Flash
of Beauty Paranormal Bigfoot, released in twenty twenty four, which

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makes the same point. We're up on a break. When
we come back, I'm going to tell you about some
weird giants that you may not have heard about. I'm
Joshua Pee Warren. You're listening to Strange Things on the
iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network, and
I will be right back. Welcome back to the final

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segment of this edition of Strange Things called the iHeartRadio
and Coast to Coast to HIM Paranormal Podcast Network. I
am your host, Joshua P. Warren, And yeah, I used
to be one of those guys that traditional cryptozoologists disliked
because I would say I think this could be some

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kind of a paranormal manifestation and they go, oh, God,
here's the ghost guy going off with hisash. No, dude,
that's an ape. It's a giant, undiscovered ape running around
every year. But now the tide seems to have change,

(39:00):
the tight is turned. We're viewing reality as being more
and more of this sort of flexible thing and a
program that has portals and has wormholes and has different
ways of transforming one's consciousness and one's point in space

(39:23):
time and all that stuff that we can't comprehend, but
we're getting there. And so, like I say, go back
watch this documentary called A Flash of Beauty Paranormal Bigfoot
or David Politis's new movie called American sasquatch Man myth
or Monster, and you'll see that. You know, some of

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the top experts who study this day like, look, if
we're going to continue studying this, we have to switch
up methodology here, because looking for an ape running around
out there just ain't working anymore. You know, this is
something different that we're dealing with here. So I'm happy
to say that I'm feeling somewhat vindicated by this. I've

(40:10):
always been interested. I love the mythology around Bigfoot. You know,
nobody never knows what to get me for Christmas, and
I don't blame them, so I bought my own Christmas
gifts this year. I got myself a new Fiji Mermaid,
Monkey's Paul, hand of Glory. These are I don't have

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time to get into what each of these are, but
these are called gaffs. These are props that are made
for sideshows that are fun. I even have a yetti
gas that I created. This one of a kind. These
are not real, legitimate objects from undiscovered creatures, even though

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it is kind of fun. At some point, I'll go
back and I think I'll dig into each one of
those topics and tell you more about like what what
is the story behind the Fiji Mermaid and the Monkey's
Paul and the hand of Glory. I'll get into that
in the future. But I also want to make this
very clear. There are stories out there about amazing giants

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that were discovered, especially like the remains of them were
discovered in the eighteen hundreds, especially in the early nineteen
hundreds in this country that I think may actually be
possibly legit, and they're not the same as Bigfoot stories,
though Bigfoot is a particular type of thing which seems

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to be like a paranormal entity. Again in my mind.
There are stories like well, here's one from Garysburg, North Carolina,
which is in the northeastern part of North Carolina, right
next to the Virginia border. Here's an article that came out.
It was in the New York Times September eighth of
eighteen seventy one. They were talking about some railroad workers

(42:05):
who were in the area. They said, the workmen, and
I'm reading this from the article, the workmen engaged in
operating Excuse me, the workmen engaged in opening away for
the projected railroad between Weldon and Garysburg. And they struck
on Monday, about one mile from Garysburg, in a bank

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beside the river, a catacomb of skeletons supposed to be
those of Indians of a remote age and a lost
and forgotten race. The bodies exhumed were of a strange
and remarkable formation. The skulls were nearly an inch in thickness.
The teeth were filed sharp as are those of cannibals,

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the enamel perfectly preserved. The bones were of wonderful length
and strength, the femur being as long as a leg
of an ordinary man. The stature of the body being
probably as great as eight or nine feet. Near their
heads were sharp stone arrows, stone mortars in which their
corn was brayed, and the bowls of pipes, apparently of soft,

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pliable soapstone. The teeth of the skeleton are said to
be as large as those of horses. One of them
has been brought to the city and presented to the
officer of the Petersburg Railroad. The bodies were found closely
packed together, laid tier on tier, as it seemed, and
there was no discernible ingress into or egress out of

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the mound. I was so struck by that article that
I drove to Garysburg, which is I don't know, I
forget how long it was. It was a long drive
from Ashville with my friend Casey Fox, and spent days
investigating the story best I could. And one thing that,

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of course, I went through all the newspapers to see
if there was a follow up on that. So I
just looked it up. It's about a five hour drive.
I looked through all the newspapers and talked all the historians,
and nobody, could you know, give me any new information.
There was no follow up. But the thing that I
did find most intriguing was that there was a guy

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in the area who his name was Stevens, who had
spit his basically his whole life scouring the swamps around
there and collecting fossils and artifacts. And he had put
together his collection into a little house, kind of like

(44:50):
a little museum, and when you go in there, you
would see gigantic tools, you know, gigantic axe heads and
mallets and things like that. I can't even remember all
the things that we're in there. I took a lot
of pictures. I assume those pictures are on discs in

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one of my storage units that I'm going to be
visiting and cleaning out this year if all goes according
to plant, so maybe I'll be able to find those now.
I know there were a lot of sensational journalists back
then who would write up stories like that just to
sell papers. But I see this kind of thing repeated
over and over again throughout our country. I mean, one

(45:36):
of the best examples of that is here in Nevada,
or Nevada. See, I've lived here for about ten years,
and I still screw up sometimes and call it Nevada.
It's Nevada at Lovelock Cave. So Lovelock Cave is it's
out in the middle of nowhere, quite far from Lost Vegas.

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Let's see how far is Lovelock Cave from Las Vegas. Uh,
so far that I've started to go out there a
number of times and be like, nah, I'm not gonna
do okay, So seven and a half to eight hours,
depending on how you go, and some in some cases
up to nine in the middle of nowhere up to
nine hours. But it's there's the cave there, and there

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are very credible reports about at some point, you know,
maybe the eighteen hundreds, some giants like the ones I've
been describing that were cannibals that lived around there and
that were eating all the local Native Americans. And they

(46:45):
would go out and they would dig a big hole,
and they would put sharp sticks and stuff down at
what we call it like a dead fall trap. And
then somebody would, you know, fall into that trap, a human,
and these the these giants would pick them up and
take them off and eat them. And this got so
bad that finally a war broke out between the Native

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Americans and these giants, and they they got all the
giants holed up in their cave and they filled the
cave with brush and set it on fire and supposedly
kill them all. And for a long time there were
remains of these giants that were put on display, until
finally they were buried because somebody said, well, these are

(47:29):
probably Native American remains. I don't know, but scientists have
gone there to that cave and they still find to
this day that there is clear evidence of a major
fire in there, and this is not something that was
considered mythology. So in fact, there was even a lady
who wore a garment that had some of the red

(47:51):
hair of the giants, but that garment, she was a
Native American who'd go around and talk about this, but
after she died and not as usual, nobody can figure
out what happened to it. I think some of those
stories might be stories about like legit, a legit species
of human that lived here at one time, maybe even

(48:14):
a spin off of the Mayans. The Mayans, they it's
a whole other show. But I mean the Mayans I
think explored much much, much, much more extensively than we
are told, and I have evidence for why I believe that.
I think they traveled all over parts of North America
and spawned some of these crazy stories. Well, I have

(48:37):
lots more to talk about, but once again I'm out
of time, and that's what the next show is for.
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