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can do at home, and a lot more on this
edition of the show. Can you see the matrix with
this new method and fossilized human shoe prints? Question mark
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exclamation point? How does it all tie together? Well, we'll
see if we can make it fit Somehow would you
like to be able to see the matrix with your
naked eyes? I'm talking about being able to I don't
know squinch your eyes in a certain way, and suddenly
before you you see all around you what looks like
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programming codes, zeros and ones, just flowing up and down,
maybe even side to side, three dimensionally, and you say,
oh my gosh, I knew it. I can now see
that I am immersed within some kind of a large
holographic system. This is a big Holi deck straight out
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of Star Trek, and I am I am part of
a computer program. And who knows exactly who the programmer is?
I guess that's what one might call God. On the
other hand, maybe it's much more complex than that. Well,
we're going to get into that in a minute, because
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there is a There are people out there right now,
maybe you've seen this, who are saying that they have
been able to achieve this, And I'm going to tell
you what they are doing and what they are claiming
that they are seeing. But first off, let me take
a moment just to ask you sort of like if
you could, if you could see the matrix like that,
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do you think that that would help you make your
life better or worse? Would it just freak you out
too much and you'd rather just not know, just be ignorant?
Or would you like to see it and give yourself
an opportunity to try to tap in there and do
some programming hack into reality. And I get so many
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emails all the time, as you know, from people who
share some of their deepest thoughts with me. And I
get a fair share of emails from people who say
they're really frightened right now about just the state of
the world and where everything is heading. And you know,
I understand people have always sort of felt that way though.
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I mean, if you think things are bad, for example,
right now here in the United States, well don't forget
about a time called the Civil War when for years,
hundreds of thousands of Americas we're doing their best to
slaughter each other every day. I mean, like we've had
some pretty dark times in this country. And you know,
people are often saying, I have a problem with how
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this politician or that politician is doing things. And that's good.
The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. I think that
Jefferson said something like that, it's good to stay on
top of it, but also you can waste your time
a little bit and not look at things from the
proper point of view. Let me explain what I mean
by this. It reminds me of this Greek story, an
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ancient Greek story about the sword of Damocles, you know
this one. So basically, Damocles was what was called a courtier,
or he was he was sort of an advisor to
a king in the king's royal court. And the king,
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who is considered a tyrant, was named Dionysius. So Damocles
is in the court and he's an advisor to the
tyrant king, Dionysus. But Damocles is always kissing up to
the king and telling him about, oh, how great it
must be to be a king, and how fortunate you are,
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and how wonderful, how blessed you are, and and how
smart you are. And he's just constantly praising the luxurious
life of Dionysus. And after a while, the king gets
annoyed with this flattery, and so he decides to hold
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a lavish banquet and he calls Dionysus and he says, Dionysus,
I tell you what, for all of your assistance to me,
we are going to trade places for an evening, and
you are going to be able to sit in the
king's seat at the banquet, so you can have an
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idea of what it's like to be a man with
this kind of power, and so of course Damocles has overcome.
He happily takes the seat and he's sitting there feasting away,
and at some point during his meal, he happens to
look up and realize that there is a razor sharp
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sword that is hanging directly above his head, and it's
held there only by a single horse hair. So it
takes him a second to realize there is this sword
over my head with a horse hair holding it. At
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any moment, a million things could happen. The wind could
blow the wrong way, somebody could come up and cut
that thing there, and boom he's toast. So at this
point Damocles suddenly he realizes there is an imminent threat,
and he immediately jumps up out of the seat and says, no, please, king,
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You know, I'm happy with my old life. And the
lesson here is that he realizes that power and luxury
and this thing, this thing that we associate with some
of these leaders and politicians, is not what it's always
cracked cracked up to be, and that you know, what
they get in return is they live in constant fear anxiety,
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and so the sort of damocles it symbolizes this impending
disaster or a looming threat, representing the the inherent perils
of being in powerful positions. And so you have to
ask yourself before you start being too critical of how
politicians handle things, whether or not you would want that job. Okay,
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So it just it just reminds me of that when
when people email me these types of messages. And I
think it's important to think about because you know, some
people say life is short, some people say life is long,
but you may as well enjoy as much of it
as you can. You know. I think a lot of
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people have lost someone recently. I've been hearing about a
lot of different loss and I want to tell you
this just as an interesting little celebrity story that I've
probably never talked about before that you might appreciate, because
Gil Gerard recently died, and Gil Gerard played Buck Rogers
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on television and he was let's see, he was eighty
two years old, and I don't know exactly what he
died from. I'm not sure that they've actually said, okay,
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that's right here. It is a rare and viciously aggressive
form of cancer. So it doesn't say specifically, but my
understanding is that, like, you know, he was told he
had cancer and then within days he was dead. It
was like one of those things. But I bring this
up because back in around twenty years ago, over twenty
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years ago, I was working on a television program with
a director named Jim Castle. And Jim had worked on
The X Files and he had worked on Cheers and
a lot of big stuff like that, and he was
a fan of my show. And so maybe around like
two thousand and eight something like that, he and I
were talking and I mentioned to him that when I
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was a kid, I loved the TV show Buck Rogers.
And I mean, did you ever watch that show? I
used to actually dress up and play Buck Rogers. And
I know you if you might be like you like
Buck Rogers? What are you? Were born in nineteen twenty five?
Were you into Howdie Duty? Also, it's like, no, I mean,
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I'm gonna be fifty years old this year, and uh,
Buck Rogers came out originally, that show in like nineteen
seventy eight, seventy nine something like that. So yeah, I
was a kid and I would dress up in the
later when my sister was born. You know, we would
dress up and take cardboard boxes and make a little
space ships and we would play like Buck Rogers. So anyway,
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I tell you this because and by the way, that
theme music d d d du du du dud a
little and had that basic on our boot but do
you boom boom? But do you do you boot boom?
Used to love that music. And I actually interviewed a
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man named Stu Phillips one time who was a composer,
and I believe that he not only worked some on that,
but he was the guy who solely composed the music
to the Night Writer TV show. Anyway, I have too
many side notes and offshoots. So anyway, around twenty two
thousand and eight, my friend Jim Castle, he said, oh, well,
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you're into Buck Rogers. He says, I know Gil Gerard.
Would you like to interview him on your show? He'd
probably be happy to do it. And I said, oh yeah,
you kidded me absolutely, So I got in touch with
Guil Gerard. And when we come back from this break,
I'm going to tell you what happened about, you know,
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my interaction with Gil Gerard. It's just and then then
we'll get into the main topic here can you see
the matrix with this new method? And then how does
all this tie into fossilized human shoe prints. I'm glad
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Giato zoom. And you know, when Gil Gerard was about
sixty years old, he was he was extremely unhealthy, extremely overweight,
and he underwent gastric bypass surgery and they did a special,
a whole TV show about it on I think it
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was maybe Discovery Health or one of those channels, and
that just did wonders for him. And so when I
met him, actually, well when I first started talking to him,
he was, I guess, like in his early sixties and
he had like this whole new lease on life. And
so he came on to my show, which at that
time was called Speaking of Strange. It was a live
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radio program that I broadcast from Asheville, North Carolina, every
Saturday night for three hours. He came on and he
was great, you know, which he just was. He phoned
in and I interviewed him for at least an hour,
and we had wonderful conversation. It was like, it was
an amazing to talk to this guy who played this
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on screen hero that impressed me enough when I was
a kid, you know that I would I would I
would emulate that, you know, with childhood role play, but
is very charismatic. And after that he and I started
talking some just you know, privately on the phone. The
first thing that I was surprised by was that, you know,
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he always came across very debonair as a character. He
was great at acting that way, but when you started
talking to him in person, he actually he was born
in Arkansas, and he just kind of considered himself a
good old boy and he was proud of that. And
he liked to talk about hunting and fishing and going
out and doing you know, country things. And he had
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a lot of strong political opinions that I think were
probably not very popular in Hollywood, which may explain why
that some of his works or to dwindle over the years.
He also was would use surprisingly coarse language sometimes even
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with people he didn't know very well. And trust me, look,
look I got a dirty mouth, so but I'm just
saying like I'm usually a little bit more careful about it.
And he just seemed to like be okay with using
some some I mean, I could tell you some stories,
but obviously, you know I can't use those kinds of
words on the air. So you never knew what you
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were going to get with him. But it was so
fun interviewing him that it became a little bit of
a tradition, like at least for two or three years,
I would interview him in January. And finally I talked
to him on the phone just privately, and I said,
you know, I have this script for this movie called
Shelton Marl Massacre, about this incident that happened in North
Carolina during the Civil War. I'm interested in producing it.
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Would you be interested in and acting in it, you know,
even starring in it? And he said absolutely. So one night,
Lauren and I drove down to Atlanta, Georgia, which is
where he lived, and Uh I finished doing a show
I think it was I finished on a Saturday at
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like midnight or something, and then we got in the
car and we arrived right in the middle of the
night in uh In Georgia. I got to the hotel room,
there was a big banner welcome Joshua Pee Warren and
there was chocolates and all these different treats, and to
this day, I think he must have arranged that, but
I don't know. So anyway, the following day, Lauren and
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I we went to an Applebee's and we were sitting
there at the table and look up and lo and behold,
here comes Buck Rogers. And he walks in, sits down,
and it's just the three of us, and uh, we
had had a great conversation. You know. As a matter
of fact, he said, one thing that was very interesting
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to me is because I was fascinated with how his
career developed. Obviously, we have a lot to talk about
in this show, and this story is getting too long already,
but what I will tell you is he said, well,
you know, for a little while, I was a movie star,
not just a TV star. And I said, oh, is
that right, and he says yeah. He said when Buck
Rogers originally came out, he says, it was originally at
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the movies on the big screen, and it was a
big hit, and I was a movie star, and then
all of a sudden, you know, I'm a TV star
because nobody remembers that I was a movie star. He
was very upset about that. But anyway, so we decided
to start we were going to start pursuing this, and
I started helping him out with his website, The design
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Mobius helped him out with that, and we had made
some possible plans for him to come to Asheville and
do like a personal appearance. But the fact of the
matter is I came to find that he was very,
very suspicious of any kind of a business deal, and
I think that's because he always thought that he got
kind of screwed over by Hollywood, and he became more
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and more difficult to work with, and so eventually, I
can't remember exactly what happened, but we just sort of
parted ways, which was it was sad. But on the
other hand, I mean, like what I can tell you
is he was a very complicated man. He could be
a very charming, warm individual. That's why he was a celebrity,
but then he could turn around and he could be
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vicious also sometimes and kind of overreact to things. So
you know, he was he was kind of a tragic
figure in that sense, I believe, but I also hope
that he had, you know, an enjoyable life. Heck, like
I say, he was eighty two years old, and I
sure enjoyed meeting him. You know, they say don't ever
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meet your hero as well. I don't entirely agree with that,
because I'm glad that I met him, and I wish
him well and I thank him for all the the
just well the friendship and also just you know, coming
onto my show for years and being such a great guest.
So hopefully, oh Buck Rogers is out there really really
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exploring the stars now, huh? Gil Gerard, how about that?
Born January twenty third, nineteen forty three in Little Rought,
Arkansas and then died there in Georgia December sixteenth of
twenty twenty five. You know, it's funny I was speaking of,
like your heroes and all that. You know, Thomas Edison,
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the Great Inventor, was dear friends with Henry Ford. Those
guys they would travel all the time all over the
place together, and they would go to the Grove Park
Inn in Asheville and vacation together. And Henry Ford especially
just sort of idolized Thomas Edison's talent. And who wouldn't.
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I mean, Edison was one of the most profound geniuses
who has ever lived. And so when in nineteen thirty
one one, Edison was dying of complications from diabetes. And
it was pretty apparent to everybody that the Edison was
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dying because Edison was an old man. Let's see how
old was Thomas Edison at this point, uh, when he
was on his way out. So he was born in
eighteen forty seven. He died nineteen thirty one, so that
made him eighty four. So yeah, you know, again a
guy with a long life. But as he was on
his deathbed, Henry Ford contacted Thomas Edison's son, Charles, and
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Henry Ford made this very strange request. He said, Charles,
will you do me a favor? Will you take a
rack of test tubes and just put them open test tubes,
just put them right there on the bedside, next to
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Tom and capture his last breath. And Charles said he
would do it. I'm sure enough. Those vials were there
when Thomas Edison took his last breath. Charles was prepared.
He immediately sealed them all up with paraffin wax and
then he sent one to Henry Ford. And to this day,
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if you go to the Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn, Michigan,
there is one of their most famous displays. It's a
test tube sitting right there, and it is the test
tube that contains Thomas Edison's last breath. You know, I
don't know where the other ones are. I was trying
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to find out. I didn't look too deeply, but it
seems like that maybe the rest of them ended up
with the Edison estate. Boy, if any of you ever
find one of those, an actual example of, you know,
one of those test tubes with Edison's last breath, I
think that would look awfully nice in my collection. Oh well,
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what do you think about this idea though, that people
are just a bit of information that when you die,
you don't really die, that you just sort of you
transmit yourself onto some other place in space time. Well,
recently people have been contacting me and saying, have you
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heard about this method that you can use supposedly to
see the matrix with your neked eyes. All you need
is a laser and some drugs. And I'm not joking there.
Apparently this started becoming popularized by a guy, and I
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don't want to use his name, but by a guy
who U claim that he had been taking DMT for
years and that that Okay, let me first, let me
I guess I should pause and say, like, there are
a lot of different people from different backgrounds who listen
to this show, and not everybody knows what DMT is.
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DMT dimethyl trip to mean is a hallucinogenic psychedelic drug,
and I've never taken it, so all I can do
is tell you what I am reading about it. It
has this rapid onset, intense effects, and a relatively short
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duration or action, a duration of action, and for those reasons,
DMT was known during the nineteen sixties as the businessman's
trip because he could have a full depth psychedelic experience
in less time than using other substances. When we come back,
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I'm going to tell you more about this methodology and
what I think of it. You take this drug and
then you take a laser. I'll explain best I can,
and we'll see what how legit this is. I'm Joshua P. Warren.
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unusual becomes usual. You know, I just realized it's time
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for a Buck Rogers reboot. Maybe I should be in
charge of that. I need to buy the rights to
Buck Rogers. If any of you big film producers out
there want to work with me to make the new
Buck Rogers or to make finally a movie from my
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script for the Shelton Laurel Massacre, which I actually own.
Just contact me, all right, So d MT uh de
mythyl trip the methyl trip to me? And I've heard
about this for years. So okay, look, who can describe
what what a psychedelic experience is like? Like? It doesn't matter. Everybody.
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Everybody can can try in his or her own words,
who has had one. But you know, all I can
tell you is that this DMT is illegal. For one thing.
They say that it does occur in its most basic
form naturally in many plants and animals. In fact, if
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you go and look at the history of it, say,
DMT derived from plant based sources and has been used
as some kind of a ritualistic psychedelic in South America
for thousands of years, and then it was first synthesized
in a turn into a real condensed chemical in nineteen
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thirty one by a Canadian chemist. And so some people
they say they've taken thousands of these DMT trips, and
they say they're totally fine. But look, I don't know. Again,
I'm I've never taken it. I have no desire to
take it. But the story is that started a few
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years ago that's been gaining steam, is that there was
there's this one fella who discovered that if you take
one of these hits of DMT and then you take
a laser. Okay, so what we're talking about here is
just like a basic six hundred fifty nanometer red laser
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pointer and you just turn that laser on and leave
it on in a big straight line in a dim room.
You can get right up there close to it, maybe
a few inches away from it. This is my understanding now.
And you look into that beam and that is where
you will see the matrix rolling by this cascade of symbols,
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these characters in this you know, you know what I'm
talking about, like the matrix style green code and it
kind of emerges from the laser sparkle. And so some
would think of it as being a divine code. And
I have talked to people who have seen things that
look like computer symbols or computer avatars and stuff like
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that floating in the air before. I don't want to
get into that right now, but I mean I've heard that.
And they are a video as you can find from
people sitting there and they're staring at a laser and
they're like, whoa, this is trippy, and they start talking
about seeing all these things. And so there's this phenomenon
out there of you know, of people who are saying
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you can use this to see the matrix. And so
people have been asking me what I think about it,
and here's here's the here's the reality. Okay, to do
this experiment, you would have to do two things that
you should not do. Okay. For one thing, you're supposed
to take d MT, which is in most cases an
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illegal drug. I don't know if it's totally illegal everywhere,
probably not, but you know, in most cases DMT is illegal.
So you'd have to take an illegal psychedelic drug. And
the second thing is you'd have to get your eyes
really close to a laser beam. And I don't see
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these people wearing safety goggles where they're doing this, by
the way, and I know that you're not like looking
directly into the beam, duh. I get that you're like,
it's it's shooting past you and you're kind of looking
off to the side. I understand, but still I would
never recommend to the kindergarteners here to take your DMT
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and then we'll stare at a laser pointer or so
you can see some really cool symbols. So you know, look,
is there truth to this or not? The fact of
the matter is there's no way to determine this because
it is completely subjective at this point. If it were
possible for a camera to somehow capture this phenomenon, okay, fine,
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But by subjective, I mean like if you had two
different people. Let's say you and I both took DMT
the same dosage, and we sat down next to each other,
we turned on the same laser, how we looked at it.
What if you saw these codes and I didn't, or
what if we just saw different numbers and letters? You know, well,
who's right and who's wrong? You know, a hallucination is
something that comes from within one's own mind. But what
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we're interested in is whether or not there's an actual
code that we all have in common here in this
holographic reality. So all I can tell you is that
this may or may not work for some people. But
I do not at all recommend that you do it
for the reasons I just cited. But you know, it's
it is an interesting concept. It's something that cannot be
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safely proven or disproven as far as eye can tell.
But you know, if you could, if you could see
the code and that and you could not only see it,
but at that point kind of record it would that
give you such ability to start tapping into reality that
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you can not only hack your your life path, but
hack spacetime itself, so so that eventually you could even
travel through space time. Can humans someday discover this matrix
and then plug into it and start using it to
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literally travel through time, into the future, into the past.
And you might say, well, that's a heck of a stretch, Josh, Well,
well no it's not. No, it's not because if you
can see a code there, well now you can start
working with it. You can't really work with something that's invisible.
It's like trying to fight the invisible man. But if
everything is built of this code and you can start
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manipulating it, well, then space and time should also be manipulatable.
And this is interesting to me because a guy that
I used to interview from time to time that I
thought was just one of the best who's ever lived
when it comes to doing this kind of research, was
Brad Steiger, super nice, intelligent, warm guy. I never got
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to meet him a person, but we had plenty great
phone conversations. He wrote this classic book called Mysteries of
Time and Space. He wrote a lot of books, of course,
if you know anything about him. I'm holding a copy
right now of this book in my hands to see.
This was published in nineteen seventy three. It looks like
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Mysteries of Time and Space by Brad Steiger. One thing
that I remember being fascinated by when I read this
is that there is a chapter. It's towards the beginning
of the book, I guess, and it's called Footprints and
the Sands of Time, And he talks about these cases
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in which supposedly like modern human shoeprints have been found
fossilized from millions of years ago, and that, in fact,
one of these even was provable because the footprint included
a trillobyte. You know, one of these little little I
(37:05):
don't know, little bugs or whatever. They were, little arthropods
that lived back in those days, kind of looked like
a little what did a trilobit? I guess a snail
or something. Look it up. Look up what a trailer
bite is? He wrote in this book he says William J.
Meister as a supervisor with Hercules Incorporated. He has a
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self described rockhound and a trillobyte collector. On June first,
nineteen sixty eight, Meister his wife and two daughters together
with some other couple. They arrived at Antelope Springs, just
northwest of Delta, Utah. On the third day. While they
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were at their camp, Meister, his wife and their four
girls found some trilobyte Fossilsbytes, a class of arthropods with shells,
were among the first marine invertebrates. They lived in the
Cambrian period of the Paleozoic era. Let's see here because
that is so. They lived about six hundred million years ago.
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These compact little creatures, with their bodies divided into three
longitudinal segments, are among the earliest fossils known to man.
Well Meister broke off a rather large two inch thick
slab of rock, struck it on the edge with a hammer,
and in his own words, saw it quote fall open
like a book, and to his astonishment, he saw quote
on one side, the footprint of a human with trillobytes
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right in the footprint itself. The other half of the
rock slab showed an almost perfect mold of the footprint
and fossils. Amazingly, the human had been wearing a sandal
end quote, the dimensions of the sandal were an excellent
perspective that see ten and a quarter inches three and
(39:02):
a half inches wide at the soul, three inches at
the heel. And I was like, you know, what, what's
ever come of that? Whereas because he that's not the
only one he talks about. That may not be the
one where he talks specifically about people finding like tennis
shoe prints and all that. But I was like, what,
(39:24):
what's the latest on that? So, because I figure, I mean,
this is a legit story there in terms of like
they're being a legit artifact, So what's happened to it?
Or a legit specimen? I should say, we're up on
a break. When we come back, I'm going to tell
you I did a follow up on this. I will
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let you know what I have discovered, scientists have said,
because sure enough, this is a real specimen and there
are other similar real specimens. And uh, I was actually
surprised to some extent by what I learned. I'm Joshua P. Warren.
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And is it true that a trilobyte was discovered crushed
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in a human footprint? By the way, trilobites, I couldn't
think of the word I was looking. If they don't
look like snails. The ones that look like snails, I
guess are called ammonites. A trillobyte looks more like a
to me, kind of like a tiny horseshoe crab or
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something like that. Anyway, I'm not an expert on ancient
ancient creatures by any means. Uh okay, So is there
any truth to any of these kinds of stories. Well,
according to credible sources on the Internet, paleontologists looked specifically
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at the Meister print there from Utah and identified it
as a natural spawling, which are rock slabs breaking in
patterns that mimic shapes, not even a human print, and
so no trilobite was actually crushed by footwear pressure. There's
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another one who knows the Nevada shoe print, which was
a rock from the Triassic layers allegedly showing a shoe
sole with stitching, which is I guess more of what
I was also thinking of. Geologists attributed it to a
natural concretion, which is a mineral accumulation. Blah blah blah.
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So basically, every time you've heard a story say there
you know there's evidence of like of a modern human
shoeprint that's been fossilized, or the human footprint that's fossilized,
like stepping on top of a bug that lived millions
of years ago, scientists are saying, look, nope, we have
(44:18):
explained all that away. But here's what surprised me. There
is a well what could scientists would say is a
legit recent discovery. In twenty twenty three, there was a
study that analyzed ancient hominum footprints from South Africa's Cape coast,
and we're talking about going back one hundred and fifty
(44:41):
thousand years. It says these lack individual toe marks and
have crisp rounded edges, resembling hard soled sandal prints rather
than barefoot tracks. Researchers experimentally recreated similar marks with simple food,
where suggesting that early humans may have worn basic shoes
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far earlier than previously thought. So basically, you know that
that's not going to like rewrite history and give us
proof that people traveled from the future into the past
wearing their nikes and stepping all of these little creatures
and we just happened to luck across that fossilized footprint. Boy,
(45:25):
that'd be lucky, wouldn't it. But we do have we
do have evidence that, you know, thousands of years ago,
long before people were thought to be wearing shoes, apparently
they had some kind of a basic shoe figured out.
So in just in case you're one of those guys
like me who read that kind of stuff when you
(45:46):
were a kid, You're and you're like, wait a second,
what's the follow up on that? Well, now you know,
I'm always here to give you the straight dope. So
sometimes there are things that are extraordinary, sometimes there not.
In this particular case, I have to believe palaeontologists and
the archaeologist and anthropologist and all those people are right.
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It has been a while since I have read listener emails.
I've been getting behind, so let me try to squeeze
some in before the end of the show. This came
to me from Marie. Now, if you're new to the program,
I have a website that's running right now. It's called
the Real Blackmailbox dot com. The Real blackmailbox dot com,
(46:31):
and I'm actually typing it in right now to make
sure everything's still good with the site, because you know
how that goes. Yeah, okay, the real black mailbox dot Com.
It's a long story. But if you go there right now,
there's an email address and you can send a wish
to that email address, and when you do that, it
gets projected into a system that goes to a portal
(46:53):
that I set up on my property next to Area
fifty one here in Nevada. Okay, So anyway, that's what
she's talking about. She went to the website and she
put her request in and here's what her subject says.
Here are the results I got from mailing through the
(47:14):
Real blackmailbox dot Com. Marie says, Joshua, I just have
to tell somebody what happened. I listened to your show
for the first time about a month ago, and your
story about your black mailbox and sending messages to God
out into the universe, Well, I have to tell you
what happened to me. I had requested two things. One
(47:39):
may be impossible, but the other well, I had requested
that I'd be given back my original ruby necklace that
my grandparents gave me, clear back in nineteen seventy nine.
I wanted it with all my heart. Well I didn't
get that exactly, but I think the universe did its
(47:59):
best to give me me as close a jewelry as possible.
I still would like the original, but here's what I got.
On November twenty ninth, my boyfriend that I have dated
for over twenty years gave me a ruby necklace out
of the blue and ruby earrings on a silver chain.
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It happened less than a month after my request. I
did not tell my boyfriend or anybody about my request,
and this was amazing that I got a ruby necklace
and earrings in less than a month's time. I feel
it was the Universe's way of doing what it could
to answer my request. What happened was amazing. I think
(48:47):
it was the universe in God reaching out to me.
Can I make more requests through the blackmailbox dot com?
Yes you can, and again that website for all of
you who are just now tuning in. It's the real
blackmailbox dot com the real black mailbox. Anybody can go
there right now. Tell all your friends. It doesn't cost
(49:09):
you anything. You have to sign up for anything, and
you just email your requests and all the information is
there that explains sort of what this is about. But
she said, that was a real wow. Please write me
back soon. It worked well. Thank you, Marie. That's a
(49:30):
wonderful message, especially for this time of year. And you
know what you Yeah, keep going, keep going, there's no limit,
keep doing it, keep sending stuff. Here's another I'll try
to squeeze in. This comes from Girard, he says, Sir.
In episode two of Your Strange Things podcast, you describe
(49:54):
being at Myrtle's plantation in Saint Francisville, Louisiana. You were
in General David Bradford's and the entity there knocked three
times each on the door, table, wall, and headboard. He said,
some things are noteworthy. Number one, it responded to polite requests.
Number two, it knocked on different surfaces upon request. And
(50:15):
number three, it did not change its pattern of knocking
three times per surface, no matter the surface. You could
not get it to knock once for yes and twice
for no. So here is the simple solution. Designate distinct
surfaces as yes or no, not the number of knocks.
For example, politely request the entity to knock on the
(50:38):
side table near the chair for yes and the wall
near the chair for no. Because it responded to politeness,
it should cooperate with you and use the table for
yes and the wall for no. And that's it. Let
me pause and say, you know what, that's a very
good point. And you know what, I wish I thought
(51:00):
of that when I was in the middle of the
situation in this creepy, haunted room all by myself. It
was kind of one of those things where I was
so shocked by what was happening it was hard for
me to like think of creative ideas at that point
in time. But that doesn't mean I can't go back
and try it again. He says. You know, some yes
(51:20):
no questions you might ask are A, is it mail,
B is it par animal? C? Is it older than
a century? D? Is it older than two centuries? E?
Other yes no questions you choose. So anyway, that's a
very good point. That's a very good point. And then
he also says, in addition, you had another three knock
(51:41):
entity from episode thirty one The Psychomantium, when you had
the mirror in the trunk of your car and there
were three knocks in the trunk. When you open the trunk,
you may have released a similar entity that's at Myrtle's plantation.
Is it possible you could get it to knock on
separate surfaces also for you, yes or no? Do not
(52:02):
try to change the number of knocks, only two distinct
surfaces for yes and no. Excellent points. Thank you so much, Gerard.
And yeah, I will remember that, and that is exactly
what I will do if I find myself in that
position once again. Okay, the clock has got us, so
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can do at home, and a lot more on this
edition of the show. Can you see the matrix with
this new method and fossilized human shoe prints? Question mark
(01:39):
exclamation point? How does it all tie together? Well, we'll
see if we can make it fit Somehow would you
like to be able to see the matrix with your
naked eyes? I'm talking about being able to I don't
know squinch your eyes in a certain way, and suddenly
before you you see all around you what looks like
(02:02):
programming codes, zeros and ones, just flowing up and down,
maybe even side to side, three dimensionally, and you say,
oh my gosh, I knew it. I can now see
that I am immersed within some kind of a large
holographic system. This is a big Holi deck straight out
(02:24):
of Star Trek, and I am I am part of
a computer program. And who knows exactly who the programmer is?
I guess that's what one might call God. On the
other hand, maybe it's much more complex than that. Well,
we're going to get into that in a minute, because
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there is a There are people out there right now,
maybe you've seen this, who are saying that they have
been able to achieve this, And I'm going to tell
you what they are doing and what they are claiming
that they are seeing. But first off, let me take
a moment just to ask you sort of like if
you could, if you could see the matrix like that,
(03:06):
do you think that that would help you make your
life better or worse? Would it just freak you out
too much and you'd rather just not know, just be ignorant?
Or would you like to see it and give yourself
an opportunity to try to tap in there and do
some programming hack into reality. And I get so many
(03:28):
emails all the time, as you know, from people who
share some of their deepest thoughts with me. And I
get a fair share of emails from people who say
they're really frightened right now about just the state of
the world and where everything is heading. And you know,
I understand people have always sort of felt that way though.
(03:50):
I mean, if you think things are bad, for example,
right now here in the United States, well don't forget
about a time called the Civil War when for years,
hundreds of thousands of Americas we're doing their best to
slaughter each other every day. I mean, like we've had
some pretty dark times in this country. And you know,
people are often saying, I have a problem with how
(04:15):
this politician or that politician is doing things. And that's good.
The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. I think that
Jefferson said something like that, it's good to stay on
top of it, but also you can waste your time
a little bit and not look at things from the
proper point of view. Let me explain what I mean
by this. It reminds me of this Greek story, an
(04:37):
ancient Greek story about the sword of Damocles, you know
this one. So basically, Damocles was what was called a courtier,
or he was he was sort of an advisor to
a king in the king's royal court. And the king,
(05:01):
who is considered a tyrant, was named Dionysius. So Damocles
is in the court and he's an advisor to the
tyrant king, Dionysus. But Damocles is always kissing up to
the king and telling him about, oh, how great it
must be to be a king, and how fortunate you are,
(05:22):
and how wonderful, how blessed you are, and and how
smart you are. And he's just constantly praising the luxurious
life of Dionysus. And after a while, the king gets
annoyed with this flattery, and so he decides to hold
(05:44):
a lavish banquet and he calls Dionysus and he says, Dionysus,
I tell you what, for all of your assistance to me,
we are going to trade places for an evening, and
you are going to be able to sit in the
king's seat at the banquet, so you can have an
(06:05):
idea of what it's like to be a man with
this kind of power, and so of course Damocles has overcome.
He happily takes the seat and he's sitting there feasting away,
and at some point during his meal, he happens to
look up and realize that there is a razor sharp
(06:26):
sword that is hanging directly above his head, and it's
held there only by a single horse hair. So it
takes him a second to realize there is this sword
over my head with a horse hair holding it. At
(06:46):
any moment, a million things could happen. The wind could
blow the wrong way, somebody could come up and cut
that thing there, and boom he's toast. So at this
point Damocles suddenly he realizes there is an imminent threat,
and he immediately jumps up out of the seat and says, no, please, king,
(07:08):
You know, I'm happy with my old life. And the
lesson here is that he realizes that power and luxury
and this thing, this thing that we associate with some
of these leaders and politicians, is not what it's always
cracked cracked up to be, and that you know, what
they get in return is they live in constant fear anxiety,
(07:32):
and so the sort of damocles it symbolizes this impending
disaster or a looming threat, representing the the inherent perils
of being in powerful positions. And so you have to
ask yourself before you start being too critical of how
politicians handle things, whether or not you would want that job. Okay,
(07:57):
So it just it just reminds me of that when
when people email me these types of messages. And I
think it's important to think about because you know, some
people say life is short, some people say life is long,
but you may as well enjoy as much of it
as you can. You know. I think a lot of
(08:18):
people have lost someone recently. I've been hearing about a
lot of different loss and I want to tell you
this just as an interesting little celebrity story that I've
probably never talked about before that you might appreciate, because
Gil Gerard recently died, and Gil Gerard played Buck Rogers
(08:45):
on television and he was let's see, he was eighty
two years old, and I don't know exactly what he
died from. I'm not sure that they've actually said, okay,
(09:05):
that's right here. It is a rare and viciously aggressive
form of cancer. So it doesn't say specifically, but my
understanding is that, like, you know, he was told he
had cancer and then within days he was dead. It
was like one of those things. But I bring this
up because back in around twenty years ago, over twenty
(09:30):
years ago, I was working on a television program with
a director named Jim Castle. And Jim had worked on
The X Files and he had worked on Cheers and
a lot of big stuff like that, and he was
a fan of my show. And so maybe around like
two thousand and eight something like that, he and I
were talking and I mentioned to him that when I
(09:51):
was a kid, I loved the TV show Buck Rogers.
And I mean, did you ever watch that show? I
used to actually dress up and play Buck Rogers. And
I know you if you might be like you like
Buck Rogers? What are you? Were born in nineteen twenty five?
Were you into Howdie Duty? Also, it's like, no, I mean,
(10:13):
I'm gonna be fifty years old this year, and uh,
Buck Rogers came out originally, that show in like nineteen
seventy eight, seventy nine something like that. So yeah, I
was a kid and I would dress up in the
later when my sister was born. You know, we would
dress up and take cardboard boxes and make a little
space ships and we would play like Buck Rogers. So anyway,
(10:36):
I tell you this because and by the way, that
theme music d d d du du du dud a
little and had that basic on our boot but do
you boom boom? But do you do you boot boom?
Used to love that music. And I actually interviewed a
(10:57):
man named Stu Phillips one time who was a composer,
and I believe that he not only worked some on that,
but he was the guy who solely composed the music
to the Night Writer TV show. Anyway, I have too
many side notes and offshoots. So anyway, around twenty two
thousand and eight, my friend Jim Castle, he said, oh, well,
(11:20):
you're into Buck Rogers. He says, I know Gil Gerard.
Would you like to interview him on your show? He'd
probably be happy to do it. And I said, oh yeah,
you kidded me absolutely, So I got in touch with
Guil Gerard. And when we come back from this break,
I'm going to tell you what happened about, you know,
(11:40):
my interaction with Gil Gerard. It's just and then then
we'll get into the main topic here can you see
the matrix with this new method? And then how does
all this tie into fossilized human shoe prints. I'm glad
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Giato zoom. And you know, when Gil Gerard was about
sixty years old, he was he was extremely unhealthy, extremely overweight,
and he underwent gastric bypass surgery and they did a special,
a whole TV show about it on I think it
(15:19):
was maybe Discovery Health or one of those channels, and
that just did wonders for him. And so when I
met him, actually, well when I first started talking to him,
he was, I guess, like in his early sixties and
he had like this whole new lease on life. And
so he came on to my show, which at that
time was called Speaking of Strange. It was a live
(15:41):
radio program that I broadcast from Asheville, North Carolina, every
Saturday night for three hours. He came on and he
was great, you know, which he just was. He phoned
in and I interviewed him for at least an hour,
and we had wonderful conversation. It was like, it was
an amazing to talk to this guy who played this
(16:03):
on screen hero that impressed me enough when I was
a kid, you know that I would I would I
would emulate that, you know, with childhood role play, but
is very charismatic. And after that he and I started
talking some just you know, privately on the phone. The
first thing that I was surprised by was that, you know,
(16:25):
he always came across very debonair as a character. He
was great at acting that way, but when you started
talking to him in person, he actually he was born
in Arkansas, and he just kind of considered himself a
good old boy and he was proud of that. And
he liked to talk about hunting and fishing and going
out and doing you know, country things. And he had
(16:48):
a lot of strong political opinions that I think were
probably not very popular in Hollywood, which may explain why
that some of his works or to dwindle over the years.
He also was would use surprisingly coarse language sometimes even
(17:08):
with people he didn't know very well. And trust me, look,
look I got a dirty mouth, so but I'm just
saying like I'm usually a little bit more careful about it.
And he just seemed to like be okay with using
some some I mean, I could tell you some stories,
but obviously, you know I can't use those kinds of
words on the air. So you never knew what you
(17:30):
were going to get with him. But it was so
fun interviewing him that it became a little bit of
a tradition, like at least for two or three years,
I would interview him in January. And finally I talked
to him on the phone just privately, and I said,
you know, I have this script for this movie called
Shelton Marl Massacre, about this incident that happened in North
Carolina during the Civil War. I'm interested in producing it.
(17:53):
Would you be interested in and acting in it, you know,
even starring in it? And he said absolutely. So one night,
Lauren and I drove down to Atlanta, Georgia, which is
where he lived, and Uh I finished doing a show
I think it was I finished on a Saturday at
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like midnight or something, and then we got in the
car and we arrived right in the middle of the
night in uh In Georgia. I got to the hotel room,
there was a big banner welcome Joshua Pee Warren and
there was chocolates and all these different treats, and to
this day, I think he must have arranged that, but
I don't know. So anyway, the following day, Lauren and
(18:34):
I we went to an Applebee's and we were sitting
there at the table and look up and lo and behold,
here comes Buck Rogers. And he walks in, sits down,
and it's just the three of us, and uh, we
had had a great conversation. You know. As a matter
of fact, he said, one thing that was very interesting
(18:54):
to me is because I was fascinated with how his
career developed. Obviously, we have a lot to talk about
in this show, and this story is getting too long already,
but what I will tell you is he said, well,
you know, for a little while, I was a movie star,
not just a TV star. And I said, oh, is
that right, and he says yeah. He said when Buck
Rogers originally came out, he says, it was originally at
(19:16):
the movies on the big screen, and it was a
big hit, and I was a movie star, and then
all of a sudden, you know, I'm a TV star
because nobody remembers that I was a movie star. He
was very upset about that. But anyway, so we decided
to start we were going to start pursuing this, and
I started helping him out with his website, The design
(19:38):
Mobius helped him out with that, and we had made
some possible plans for him to come to Asheville and
do like a personal appearance. But the fact of the
matter is I came to find that he was very,
very suspicious of any kind of a business deal, and
I think that's because he always thought that he got
kind of screwed over by Hollywood, and he became more
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and more difficult to work with, and so eventually, I
can't remember exactly what happened, but we just sort of
parted ways, which was it was sad. But on the
other hand, I mean, like what I can tell you
is he was a very complicated man. He could be
a very charming, warm individual. That's why he was a celebrity,
but then he could turn around and he could be
(20:21):
vicious also sometimes and kind of overreact to things. So
you know, he was he was kind of a tragic
figure in that sense, I believe, but I also hope
that he had, you know, an enjoyable life. Heck, like
I say, he was eighty two years old, and I
sure enjoyed meeting him. You know, they say don't ever
(20:42):
meet your hero as well. I don't entirely agree with that,
because I'm glad that I met him, and I wish
him well and I thank him for all the the
just well the friendship and also just you know, coming
onto my show for years and being such a great guest.
So hopefully, oh Buck Rogers is out there really really
(21:03):
exploring the stars now, huh? Gil Gerard, how about that?
Born January twenty third, nineteen forty three in Little Rought,
Arkansas and then died there in Georgia December sixteenth of
twenty twenty five. You know, it's funny I was speaking of,
like your heroes and all that. You know, Thomas Edison,
(21:26):
the Great Inventor, was dear friends with Henry Ford. Those
guys they would travel all the time all over the
place together, and they would go to the Grove Park
Inn in Asheville and vacation together. And Henry Ford especially
just sort of idolized Thomas Edison's talent. And who wouldn't.
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I mean, Edison was one of the most profound geniuses
who has ever lived. And so when in nineteen thirty
one one, Edison was dying of complications from diabetes. And
it was pretty apparent to everybody that the Edison was
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dying because Edison was an old man. Let's see how
old was Thomas Edison at this point, uh, when he
was on his way out. So he was born in
eighteen forty seven. He died nineteen thirty one, so that
made him eighty four. So yeah, you know, again a
guy with a long life. But as he was on
his deathbed, Henry Ford contacted Thomas Edison's son, Charles, and
(22:38):
Henry Ford made this very strange request. He said, Charles,
will you do me a favor? Will you take a
rack of test tubes and just put them open test tubes,
just put them right there on the bedside, next to
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Tom and capture his last breath. And Charles said he
would do it. I'm sure enough. Those vials were there
when Thomas Edison took his last breath. Charles was prepared.
He immediately sealed them all up with paraffin wax and
then he sent one to Henry Ford. And to this day,
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if you go to the Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn, Michigan,
there is one of their most famous displays. It's a
test tube sitting right there, and it is the test
tube that contains Thomas Edison's last breath. You know, I
don't know where the other ones are. I was trying
(23:47):
to find out. I didn't look too deeply, but it
seems like that maybe the rest of them ended up
with the Edison estate. Boy, if any of you ever
find one of those, an actual example of, you know,
one of those test tubes with Edison's last breath, I
think that would look awfully nice in my collection. Oh well,
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what do you think about this idea though, that people
are just a bit of information that when you die,
you don't really die, that you just sort of you
transmit yourself onto some other place in space time. Well,
recently people have been contacting me and saying, have you
(24:32):
heard about this method that you can use supposedly to
see the matrix with your neked eyes. All you need
is a laser and some drugs. And I'm not joking there.
Apparently this started becoming popularized by a guy, and I
(24:54):
don't want to use his name, but by a guy
who U claim that he had been taking DMT for
years and that that Okay, let me first, let me
I guess I should pause and say, like, there are
a lot of different people from different backgrounds who listen
to this show, and not everybody knows what DMT is.
(25:17):
DMT dimethyl trip to mean is a hallucinogenic psychedelic drug,
and I've never taken it, so all I can do
is tell you what I am reading about it. It
has this rapid onset, intense effects, and a relatively short
(25:38):
duration or action, a duration of action, and for those reasons,
DMT was known during the nineteen sixties as the businessman's
trip because he could have a full depth psychedelic experience
in less time than using other substances. When we come back,
(26:01):
I'm going to tell you more about this methodology and
what I think of it. You take this drug and
then you take a laser. I'll explain best I can,
and we'll see what how legit this is. I'm Joshua P. Warren.
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unusual becomes usual. You know, I just realized it's time
(28:46):
for a Buck Rogers reboot. Maybe I should be in
charge of that. I need to buy the rights to
Buck Rogers. If any of you big film producers out
there want to work with me to make the new
Buck Rogers or to make finally a movie from my
(29:07):
script for the Shelton Laurel Massacre, which I actually own.
Just contact me, all right, So d MT uh de
mythyl trip the methyl trip to me? And I've heard
about this for years. So okay, look, who can describe
what what a psychedelic experience is like? Like? It doesn't matter. Everybody.
(29:34):
Everybody can can try in his or her own words,
who has had one. But you know, all I can
tell you is that this DMT is illegal. For one thing.
They say that it does occur in its most basic
form naturally in many plants and animals. In fact, if
(29:57):
you go and look at the history of it, say,
DMT derived from plant based sources and has been used
as some kind of a ritualistic psychedelic in South America
for thousands of years, and then it was first synthesized
in a turn into a real condensed chemical in nineteen
(30:18):
thirty one by a Canadian chemist. And so some people
they say they've taken thousands of these DMT trips, and
they say they're totally fine. But look, I don't know. Again,
I'm I've never taken it. I have no desire to
take it. But the story is that started a few
(30:41):
years ago that's been gaining steam, is that there was
there's this one fella who discovered that if you take
one of these hits of DMT and then you take
a laser. Okay, so what we're talking about here is
just like a basic six hundred fifty nanometer red laser
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pointer and you just turn that laser on and leave
it on in a big straight line in a dim room.
You can get right up there close to it, maybe
a few inches away from it. This is my understanding now.
And you look into that beam and that is where
you will see the matrix rolling by this cascade of symbols,
(31:27):
these characters in this you know, you know what I'm
talking about, like the matrix style green code and it
kind of emerges from the laser sparkle. And so some
would think of it as being a divine code. And
I have talked to people who have seen things that
look like computer symbols or computer avatars and stuff like
(31:51):
that floating in the air before. I don't want to
get into that right now, but I mean I've heard that.
And they are a video as you can find from
people sitting there and they're staring at a laser and
they're like, whoa, this is trippy, and they start talking
about seeing all these things. And so there's this phenomenon
out there of you know, of people who are saying
(32:14):
you can use this to see the matrix. And so
people have been asking me what I think about it,
and here's here's the here's the reality. Okay, to do
this experiment, you would have to do two things that
you should not do. Okay. For one thing, you're supposed
to take d MT, which is in most cases an
(32:35):
illegal drug. I don't know if it's totally illegal everywhere,
probably not, but you know, in most cases DMT is illegal.
So you'd have to take an illegal psychedelic drug. And
the second thing is you'd have to get your eyes
really close to a laser beam. And I don't see
(32:55):
these people wearing safety goggles where they're doing this, by
the way, and I know that you're not like looking
directly into the beam, duh. I get that you're like,
it's it's shooting past you and you're kind of looking
off to the side. I understand, but still I would
never recommend to the kindergarteners here to take your DMT
(33:16):
and then we'll stare at a laser pointer or so
you can see some really cool symbols. So you know, look,
is there truth to this or not? The fact of
the matter is there's no way to determine this because
it is completely subjective at this point. If it were
possible for a camera to somehow capture this phenomenon, okay, fine,
(33:40):
But by subjective, I mean like if you had two
different people. Let's say you and I both took DMT
the same dosage, and we sat down next to each other,
we turned on the same laser, how we looked at it.
What if you saw these codes and I didn't, or
what if we just saw different numbers and letters? You know, well,
who's right and who's wrong? You know, a hallucination is
something that comes from within one's own mind. But what
(34:05):
we're interested in is whether or not there's an actual
code that we all have in common here in this
holographic reality. So all I can tell you is that
this may or may not work for some people. But
I do not at all recommend that you do it
for the reasons I just cited. But you know, it's
it is an interesting concept. It's something that cannot be
(34:27):
safely proven or disproven as far as eye can tell.
But you know, if you could, if you could see
the code and that and you could not only see it,
but at that point kind of record it would that
give you such ability to start tapping into reality that
(34:50):
you can not only hack your your life path, but
hack spacetime itself, so so that eventually you could even
travel through space time. Can humans someday discover this matrix
and then plug into it and start using it to
(35:12):
literally travel through time, into the future, into the past.
And you might say, well, that's a heck of a stretch, Josh, Well,
well no it's not. No, it's not because if you
can see a code there, well now you can start
working with it. You can't really work with something that's invisible.
It's like trying to fight the invisible man. But if
everything is built of this code and you can start
(35:33):
manipulating it, well, then space and time should also be manipulatable.
And this is interesting to me because a guy that
I used to interview from time to time that I
thought was just one of the best who's ever lived
when it comes to doing this kind of research, was
Brad Steiger, super nice, intelligent, warm guy. I never got
(35:57):
to meet him a person, but we had plenty great
phone conversations. He wrote this classic book called Mysteries of
Time and Space. He wrote a lot of books, of course,
if you know anything about him. I'm holding a copy
right now of this book in my hands to see.
This was published in nineteen seventy three. It looks like
(36:22):
Mysteries of Time and Space by Brad Steiger. One thing
that I remember being fascinated by when I read this
is that there is a chapter. It's towards the beginning
of the book, I guess, and it's called Footprints and
the Sands of Time, And he talks about these cases
(36:43):
in which supposedly like modern human shoeprints have been found
fossilized from millions of years ago, and that, in fact,
one of these even was provable because the footprint included
a trillobyte. You know, one of these little little I
(37:05):
don't know, little bugs or whatever. They were, little arthropods
that lived back in those days, kind of looked like
a little what did a trilobit? I guess a snail
or something. Look it up. Look up what a trailer
bite is? He wrote in this book he says William J.
Meister as a supervisor with Hercules Incorporated. He has a
(37:31):
self described rockhound and a trillobyte collector. On June first,
nineteen sixty eight, Meister his wife and two daughters together
with some other couple. They arrived at Antelope Springs, just
northwest of Delta, Utah. On the third day. While they
(37:53):
were at their camp, Meister, his wife and their four
girls found some trilobyte Fossilsbytes, a class of arthropods with shells,
were among the first marine invertebrates. They lived in the
Cambrian period of the Paleozoic era. Let's see here because
that is so. They lived about six hundred million years ago.
(38:16):
These compact little creatures, with their bodies divided into three
longitudinal segments, are among the earliest fossils known to man.
Well Meister broke off a rather large two inch thick
slab of rock, struck it on the edge with a hammer,
and in his own words, saw it quote fall open
like a book, and to his astonishment, he saw quote
on one side, the footprint of a human with trillobytes
(38:41):
right in the footprint itself. The other half of the
rock slab showed an almost perfect mold of the footprint
and fossils. Amazingly, the human had been wearing a sandal
end quote, the dimensions of the sandal were an excellent
perspective that see ten and a quarter inches three and
(39:02):
a half inches wide at the soul, three inches at
the heel. And I was like, you know, what, what's
ever come of that? Whereas because he that's not the
only one he talks about. That may not be the
one where he talks specifically about people finding like tennis
shoe prints and all that. But I was like, what,
(39:24):
what's the latest on that? So, because I figure, I mean,
this is a legit story there in terms of like
they're being a legit artifact, So what's happened to it?
Or a legit specimen? I should say, we're up on
a break. When we come back, I'm going to tell
you I did a follow up on this. I will
(39:46):
let you know what I have discovered, scientists have said,
because sure enough, this is a real specimen and there
are other similar real specimens. And uh, I was actually
surprised to some extent by what I learned. I'm Joshua P. Warren.
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And is it true that a trilobyte was discovered crushed
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in a human footprint? By the way, trilobites, I couldn't
think of the word I was looking. If they don't
look like snails. The ones that look like snails, I
guess are called ammonites. A trillobyte looks more like a
to me, kind of like a tiny horseshoe crab or
(42:48):
something like that. Anyway, I'm not an expert on ancient
ancient creatures by any means. Uh okay, So is there
any truth to any of these kinds of stories. Well,
according to credible sources on the Internet, paleontologists looked specifically
(43:12):
at the Meister print there from Utah and identified it
as a natural spawling, which are rock slabs breaking in
patterns that mimic shapes, not even a human print, and
so no trilobite was actually crushed by footwear pressure. There's
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another one who knows the Nevada shoe print, which was
a rock from the Triassic layers allegedly showing a shoe
sole with stitching, which is I guess more of what
I was also thinking of. Geologists attributed it to a
natural concretion, which is a mineral accumulation. Blah blah blah.
(43:56):
So basically, every time you've heard a story say there
you know there's evidence of like of a modern human
shoeprint that's been fossilized, or the human footprint that's fossilized,
like stepping on top of a bug that lived millions
of years ago, scientists are saying, look, nope, we have
(44:18):
explained all that away. But here's what surprised me. There
is a well what could scientists would say is a
legit recent discovery. In twenty twenty three, there was a
study that analyzed ancient hominum footprints from South Africa's Cape coast,
and we're talking about going back one hundred and fifty
(44:41):
thousand years. It says these lack individual toe marks and
have crisp rounded edges, resembling hard soled sandal prints rather
than barefoot tracks. Researchers experimentally recreated similar marks with simple food,
where suggesting that early humans may have worn basic shoes
(45:05):
far earlier than previously thought. So basically, you know that
that's not going to like rewrite history and give us
proof that people traveled from the future into the past
wearing their nikes and stepping all of these little creatures
and we just happened to luck across that fossilized footprint. Boy,
(45:25):
that'd be lucky, wouldn't it. But we do have we
do have evidence that, you know, thousands of years ago,
long before people were thought to be wearing shoes, apparently
they had some kind of a basic shoe figured out.
So in just in case you're one of those guys
like me who read that kind of stuff when you
(45:46):
were a kid, You're and you're like, wait a second,
what's the follow up on that? Well, now you know,
I'm always here to give you the straight dope. So
sometimes there are things that are extraordinary, sometimes there not.
In this particular case, I have to believe palaeontologists and
the archaeologist and anthropologist and all those people are right.
(46:08):
It has been a while since I have read listener emails.
I've been getting behind, so let me try to squeeze
some in before the end of the show. This came
to me from Marie. Now, if you're new to the program,
I have a website that's running right now. It's called
the Real Blackmailbox dot com. The Real blackmailbox dot com,
(46:31):
and I'm actually typing it in right now to make
sure everything's still good with the site, because you know
how that goes. Yeah, okay, the real black mailbox dot Com.
It's a long story. But if you go there right now,
there's an email address and you can send a wish
to that email address, and when you do that, it
gets projected into a system that goes to a portal
(46:53):
that I set up on my property next to Area
fifty one here in Nevada. Okay, So anyway, that's what
she's talking about. She went to the website and she
put her request in and here's what her subject says.
Here are the results I got from mailing through the
(47:14):
Real blackmailbox dot Com. Marie says, Joshua, I just have
to tell somebody what happened. I listened to your show
for the first time about a month ago, and your
story about your black mailbox and sending messages to God
out into the universe, Well, I have to tell you
what happened to me. I had requested two things. One
(47:39):
may be impossible, but the other well, I had requested
that I'd be given back my original ruby necklace that
my grandparents gave me, clear back in nineteen seventy nine.
I wanted it with all my heart. Well I didn't
get that exactly, but I think the universe did its
(47:59):
best to give me me as close a jewelry as possible.
I still would like the original, but here's what I got.
On November twenty ninth, my boyfriend that I have dated
for over twenty years gave me a ruby necklace out
of the blue and ruby earrings on a silver chain.
(48:24):
It happened less than a month after my request. I
did not tell my boyfriend or anybody about my request,
and this was amazing that I got a ruby necklace
and earrings in less than a month's time. I feel
it was the Universe's way of doing what it could
to answer my request. What happened was amazing. I think
(48:47):
it was the universe in God reaching out to me.
Can I make more requests through the blackmailbox dot com?
Yes you can, and again that website for all of
you who are just now tuning in. It's the real
blackmailbox dot com the real black mailbox. Anybody can go
there right now. Tell all your friends. It doesn't cost
(49:09):
you anything. You have to sign up for anything, and
you just email your requests and all the information is
there that explains sort of what this is about. But
she said, that was a real wow. Please write me
back soon. It worked well. Thank you, Marie. That's a
(49:30):
wonderful message, especially for this time of year. And you
know what you Yeah, keep going, keep going, there's no limit,
keep doing it, keep sending stuff. Here's another I'll try
to squeeze in. This comes from Girard, he says, Sir.
In episode two of Your Strange Things podcast, you describe
(49:54):
being at Myrtle's plantation in Saint Francisville, Louisiana. You were
in General David Bradford's and the entity there knocked three
times each on the door, table, wall, and headboard. He said,
some things are noteworthy. Number one, it responded to polite requests.
Number two, it knocked on different surfaces upon request. And
(50:15):
number three, it did not change its pattern of knocking
three times per surface, no matter the surface. You could
not get it to knock once for yes and twice
for no. So here is the simple solution. Designate distinct
surfaces as yes or no, not the number of knocks.
For example, politely request the entity to knock on the
(50:38):
side table near the chair for yes and the wall
near the chair for no. Because it responded to politeness,
it should cooperate with you and use the table for
yes and the wall for no. And that's it. Let
me pause and say, you know what, that's a very
good point. And you know what, I wish I thought
(51:00):
of that when I was in the middle of the
situation in this creepy, haunted room all by myself. It
was kind of one of those things where I was
so shocked by what was happening it was hard for
me to like think of creative ideas at that point
in time. But that doesn't mean I can't go back
and try it again. He says. You know, some yes
(51:20):
no questions you might ask are A, is it mail,
B is it par animal? C? Is it older than
a century? D? Is it older than two centuries? E?
Other yes no questions you choose. So anyway, that's a
very good point. That's a very good point. And then
he also says, in addition, you had another three knock
(51:41):
entity from episode thirty one The Psychomantium, when you had
the mirror in the trunk of your car and there
were three knocks in the trunk. When you open the trunk,
you may have released a similar entity that's at Myrtle's plantation.
Is it possible you could get it to knock on
separate surfaces also for you, yes or no? Do not
(52:02):
try to change the number of knocks, only two distinct
surfaces for yes and no. Excellent points. Thank you so much, Gerard.
And yeah, I will remember that, and that is exactly
what I will do if I find myself in that
position once again. Okay, the clock has got us, so
(52:22):
you know what to do. If you can close your eyes,
take a deep breath, let us all focus together on
helping each other have the best next week possible. Here
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Kingdom of Fraud
It’s the unlikeliest of criminal partnerships: a devout polygamist from an insular Utah sect joining forces with a shadowy Armenian tycoon from LA. The result - a billion dollar fraud conspiracy. In Kingdom of Fraud, investigative reporter Michele McPhee traces the origins of the extraordinary alliance between Jacob Kingston and Levon Termendzhyan. Together, the two men trigger the largest tax investigation in American history and weave around themselves a web of dirty cops, influential political relationships and transnational money laundering. All this is set against the backdrop of Jacob Kingston’s clan – The Order. A powerful and secretive polygamist organization in Salt Lake City. To whom Jacob is desperate to prove his worth. Kingdom of Fraud is produced by Novel for iHeart Podcasts. For more from Novel, visit https://novel.audio/. You can listen to new episodes of Kingdom of Fraud completely ad-free and 1 week early with an iHeart True Crime+ subscription, available exclusively on Apple Podcasts. Open your Apple Podcasts app, search for “iHeart True Crime+, and subscribe today!