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I'm Joshua P. Warren and I'm in the field on
a secret mission right now. You'll hear all about it
when I get back, but for now, please enjoy this
best of edition of Strange Things. Get ready to be
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amazed by the Wizard of Weird Strange Things with Joshua E. Warren.
I am Joshua P. Warren, and each week on this show,
I'll be bringing you brand new mind blowing content, news, exercises,
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and weird experiments you can do at home, and a
lot more. On this edition of the show. The allegory
of the Cave and dimensions and later scientists have discovered
that plants make sounds. How about that? I'm going to
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play some for you on this podcast. All right, Dimensions
always a tough subject to talk about. It's well truly unimaginable.
And I'm not going to go into all of my
explanations for how you might comprehend dimensions. I've talked about
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it before. If you want to hear some of those
stories about flat land and how to wrap your mind
around other dimensions, go back and listen to episode fourteen
of this podcast. It's called inter Dimensional Monsters. Okay, that's
where I get into the groundwork for that sort of thing.
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But what I am going to do is tell you
about this story that was written I believe, almost two thousand,
four hundred years ago, that gives us insight today and
how that dimensions might play into our lives, you know,
other dimensions outside of the three dimensions or even the
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fourth dimension of so called time, and how that people
have always been aware of this if they were thoughtful enough.
These philosophers, and of course most people will say the
all time great philosopher was Socrates and the Allegory of
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the Cave. It is basically a story that Socrates is
telling and before I get into the actual tale, let
me just point out. You know Socrates, the ancient Greek philosopher,
he was persecuted for his teachings and he was eventually
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executed when he was about eighty years old. And they
say that there are people who are trying to rescue
him from prison, but he didn't go, and he actually
drank hemlock. I guess at eighty years old he was
ready to see something more a guy of that intelligence.
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But when I was reading about this allegory, it reminded
me of something I wrote about in my book called
Use the Force, a Jedi's Guide to the Law of Attraction,
which you can obtain through my website. And here is
page one point fifty four just gives you an idea
of how Socrates' mind worked. There's a story about Socrates
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and his approach to gossip, possibly apocryphal, that has circulated
for years, and here's one version and ancient Greece. One day,
Socrates the Great Philosopher was approached by an excited man
who said, Socrates, do you know what I just heard
about one of your students. Wait a moment, Socrates replied,
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Before you tell me, I'd like you to pass a
little test. It's called the test of three. Before you
talk to me about my student, let's take a moment
to test what you're going to say. The first test
is truth. Have you made absolutely sure that what you
are about to tell me is true? No, the man said,
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Actually I just heard about it, all right, said Socrates.
So you don't really know if it's true or not.
Now let's try the second test. The test of goodness
is what you were about to tell me about my student,
something good? Well, no, the man said. On the contrary,
so Socrates continued, you want to tell me something bad
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about him, even though you're not certain it's true. The
man shrugged a little embarrassed. Socrates continued, You may still pass, though,
because there is a third test, the filter of usefulness.
Is what you want to tell me about my student
going to be useful to me? Well? No, not really, well,
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concluded Socrates. If you want to tell me something that
is neither true, nor good, nor even useful, then why
tell it to me at all. So that's the story, folks,
that's been circulating for a long time, and whether or
not it's true, it seems to be somewhat in line
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with what philosophers call the Socratic method of questioning, And
the point is quite clear, why should you develop your
opinions about anyone or anything in the world unless you
can vouch for the accuracy of the facts. I continue writing.
Be mindful of this even more as it's even more
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import and this age of mass media, you cannot put
yourself in another person's shoes unless you have some direct
access to the information regarding that person, and even then
you should be careful to ensure it is worth your
effort to do so. Now that is all I was
going to read to you, But actually there's another interesting
little point that I'm going to include, since it comes
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right after this. There is a fascinating parallel to this
in the Sherlock Holmes stories written by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
In his story a Study in Scarlet, Holmes tells doctor
Watson he was previously unaware that the Earth revolves around
the Sun. Moreover, now that he's learned it, he will
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do his best to forget it. And when Watson protests,
Holmes imperiously interrupts and says, well, what the deuce is
it to me? You say that we go around the sun?
If we went around the moon. It would not make
a pennyworth of difference to me or to my work.
You see. Sherlock Holmes believes that the mind has a
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finite capacity for information storage, and learning useless things reduces
one ability to learn useful things. And whether or not
this is in fact true, it is a good lesson
for all of us to bear in mind. We should
strive to only take impertinent knowledge, and even then to
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only occupy our minds with knowledge that is relevant to
our lives. So I'll stop reading right there, and look,
I'm a terrible trivia buff so there's no telling how
much useless knowledge that is in my mind. But that's
just something interesting to think about, isn't it. So that
gives you a little bit of an idea, however, of
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the approach to life that Socrates was supposedly taking. And
one of socrates as students was another great philosopher turned
out to be one named Plato. And Plato had a brother,
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and his brother's name was Glaucon. All right, so about
twenty four hundred years ago Plato he wrote that one
day Socrates was talking to Plato's brother Lacon, and they
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were having a discussion Plato liked to write in dialogues,
as they would call them, you know, where two people
are exchanging ideas back and forth. And so the allegory
of the cave is Plato's presentation of this story that
Socrates was telling that I am now about to paraphrase
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for you the best I can, and I'll get started here,
but I think you know, the clock is going to
get us here, so I'll probably have to take a
break right in the middle of this. Okay. So Socrates says,
imagine a cave. Now think, folks, this is thousands of
years ago. Okay, he says, imagine a cave where people
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have been imprisoned from childhood, but not from birth. The
prisoners are chained so that their legs and necks are fixed,
forcing them to gaze at the wall in front of
them and not to look around at the cave, each
other or themselves. Behind the prisoners is a fire, and
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between the fire and the prisoners is a raised walkway
with a low wall, behind which people walk, carrying objects
or puppets of men and other living things. The men
walk behind the wall so their bodies do not cast
shadows for the prisoners to see, but the objects that
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they carry. Dude. Just as puppet showmen have screens in
front of them at which they work their puppets, the
prisoners cannot see any of what is happening behind them.
They are only able to see the shadows cast upon
the cave wall in front of them. Okay, I'm going
to stop right there and hopefully this is making sense
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to you. These guys, they're chained to a cave facing
a wall. They can't see each other. All they know
is that they see shadows of things in front of them.
They don't know these shadows are being made by people
behind them with you know, like puppets and stuff. Shadow puppets.
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So Socrates is telling this story, the allegory of the cave.
These men are chained to this chained up inside this
cave and they're facing a wall. They can't see each other.
They don't know anything about the real world other than
shadows that are being projected from behind them on the walls. Okay,
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like shadow puppets. So the people behind them who walk
behind the wall, so their bodies, you know, are not
visible casting these things. They're like puppet masters. The prisoners
cannot see any of what is happening behind them. They
are only able to see the shadows cast upon the
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wall in front of them. They can also hear the
sounds of the people talking echo off the walls, and
the prisoners believe these sounds come from the shadows. Why
wouldn't they now, Socrates suggests that the shadows are reality
for the prisoners because they have never seen anything else.
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They do not realize that what they see are shadows
of objects in front of a fire behind them, much
less that these objects are inspired by real things outside
of the cave, which they do not see at all.
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So Socrates then supposes that the prisoners are released. Uh huh.
So a freed prisoner would look around and see the fire,
and the light would hurt his eyes and make it
difficult for him to see the objects casting the shadows.
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If he were told that what he is seeing is
real instead of the other version of reality that he
sees on the wall, he would not believe it. In
his pain, Socrates continues, the freed prisoner would turn away
and run back to what he is accustomed to, that
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is the shadows of the carried objects. The light quote
would hurt his eyes, and he would escape by turning
away to the things which he was able to look at,
and these he would believe to be clearer than what
was being shown to him in quote. But then, Socrates continues,
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he goes even further. He says, suppose that someone should
drag him out by force up the rough ascent, the
steep way up, and never stop until he could drag
him out into the light of the sun. The prisoner
would be angry and in pain, and this would only
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worsen when the radiant light of the sun overwhelms his
eyes and blinds him. Slowly his eyes adjust to the
light of the sun. First he can see only shadows.
Gradually he can see the reflections of people and things
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in water, and then later see the people in things themselves.
Eventually he is able to look at the stars and
moon at night, until finally he can look upon the
sun itself. Only after he can look straight at the
sun is he able to reason about it and what
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it is. Socrates then continues saying that the free prisoner
would think that the world outside the cave was superior
to the world he experienced in the cave. An attempt
to share this with the prisoners remaining in the cave,
attempting to bring them onto the journey he had just endured,
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says he would bless himself for the change and pity
the other prisoners, and he would want to bring his
fellow cave dwellers out of the cave and into the sunlight.
The returning prisoner, whose eyes have become accustomed to the sunlight,
would be blind when he re entered the cave, just
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as he was when he was first exposed to the sun.
The prisoners who remained, according to the dialogue, would infer
from the returning man's blindness that the journey out of
the cave had harmed him, and that they should not
undertake a similar journey. Socrates concludes that the prisoners, if
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they were able, would therefore reach out and kill anyone
who attempted to drag them out of the cave. Okay,
now hopefully you kept up with that. I know it's weird,
but it's actually a very simple story, and it is
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profound in a lot of ways, because I believe that
this story that was written almost twenty four hundred years
ago is as relevant today as it has always been.
Because this is a very simple way of trying to
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not explain what other dimensions are, because you can't really
do that in a meaningful way, but and explain how
that we humans experienced them. That even though we can't
directly experience other dimensions because their brains can only only
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go so far and do so much, the projections of
activity in those other dimensions are almost like shadows in
our dimension. They're like the shadows that were being projected
from somewhere else that the men in the cave could
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see on the wall. They were seeing the shadow, the projection,
the flat two D representation, but there was a far
cry from the actual thing that was making that projection,
much less the entire world outside the cave that was
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actually the source of everything. So other words, there are
some of us who who prefer to just stay in
the cave and look at the shadows and not adventure
outside of that, because that's what you're accustomed to, and
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you also might not be able to grasp why it's
necessary to go outside. Furthermore, you may fear it. There
are other people, however, who have a mind that works
in a different way, and they want to go out
and they go through these transformative mystical experiences. And it
can happen in a lot of ways. It can happen
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through sheer study and thought, or obviously sometimes people say
certain hallucinogens might help, or maybe a traumatic experience. I mean,
you hear all these stories. I think that it can
be accomplished, however, by some people just through sheer deep thinking.
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And therefore there are people who are able to reach
out and experience these other other models or or or
phases or forms that bring you a closer look at
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the true, behind the scenes reality. I don't think that
we're ever capable of seeing it, because you could say
that even the most ironic thing about this allegory is
that even when he goes outside the cave and he's
supposedly seeing the real real world, well he's still he's
still in the cave by our standards, because now we
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know there are these other dimensions that are beyond that.
So when it comes to these ideas about what are
phantoms or other bizarre our creatures, or how does consciousness work,
or how can we manipulate reality with our minds and
manifest things or see into the future or the past,
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it ties into this ability that that information could well,
it could be retrieved from these other dimensions, and that
this whole reality that we live in is kind of
a holograph, a holographic universe, or as I call it,
a holocentiate universe, and that we are simply seeing the
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exterior edge of some of these things that are existing
outside of us and beyond us. And this may be
one of the best early examples of describing other dimensions
and interdimensional phenomena and how and why we interact with it.
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And I hope you see that the way I do,
which is what I wanted to share it with you,
because I think that's really fascinating. And you know, you
watch these some of these scientists today who talk about
not believing in all this kind of paranormal stuff, and
then you turn around and you talk to the best
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scientists in the world who have won Nobel Prizes studying
quantum physics, and they say, oh, yeah, it's Alice in
Wonderland here. You know, it's down the rabbit hole like
anything as possible, that there's no such thing as a
set reality, that there are other places where things are.
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You know, information comes from and goes to. And I
mean like, so the best smartest scientists out there are
telling us that there comes a point where you can't
really differentiate too much between hardcore science and philosophy. Right, Okay,
when we come back from this break, I'll give you
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one more like finishing thought on that topic, and then
I want to play this audio for you. I've never
heard this before. It's apparently some pretty new research. Scientists
have just discovered that plants make sounds. And this is
another example of what I'm talking about. You may feel
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secure that you know everything, and then one day, nope,
new discovery. The world is much more complex than we
can imagine. I'm Joshua Pee Warren. You're listening to Strange
Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast. I am
Paranormal Podcast Network, and I'll be back after these important messages.
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Welcome back to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast
to Coast. I am heron Normal Podcast Network. I'm your host,
Joshua P. Warren, and this is the show where the
unusual becomes usual. Just to wrap up my thoughts on
the allegory of the cave and other dimensions, My wife
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Lauren and I have two little chihuahuas named Dolly and Lama,
both females, and they're both very good natured, even though
we're pretty sure that Lama has got some chupacabra in her,
but you've heard me talk about that before. And so
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these dogs, they are never allowed to go out our
front door because you know, we live in Las Vegas,
and these are the kinds of dogs like especially Dolly.
She's so fast. If she sees something like a pigeon
or whatever, it's like streak of lightning. She's gone. And
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you know, I have this section out back where we have,
you know, a swimming pool and a spa. We've had
a nice setup out here, so they get plenty of
room to go out back and have some outside time
when we're not we're not taking them for a special
walk or something, but we never let them go out
the front door. And whenever I open the front door.
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The dogs, especially Dolly, she'll run up and she'll stand
right there and she'll just want to catch a peek
of what's outside. Now, I gotta be very careful that
she doesn't just shoot right by me, and I say,
get no, get back, get back, get back. And I'm
sure she thinks that I'm just being a mean old guy,
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you know, not letting her go out there. And she
has no idea that if she goes out there, that
there are these zooming cars that could hit her at
an instant and kill her. Right. That's not She's not
able to comprehend that. And that reminds me also of
the allegory of the cave, that there are certain things
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that we humans are not allowed to do and that
might make us angry. We say, well, this is a
bunch of bull. And I don't like God or the
universe or whoever you want to blame, because there are
things that you think you should have or be able
to achieve and and and it's just not happening for you.
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But you may not realize what you're asking for. In
some cases, going outside of the cave might actually be
dangerous for you. And I mean, look at how many
astronauts have died trying to go outside of the cave
a little farther. So anyway, just another way of looking
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at that. Well, let's move on to plant life, shall we.
I have always believed that plants have spirits. One of
the reasons that I believe that now is because a
long time ago, I'm talking, you know, twenty some years ago,
I started doing experiments along with a Lemur team about
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experiments with plants. We would get plants and we would
hook them up to biofeedback devices and see what kind
of signals they were producing under different circumstances, photograph them
with carelelying cameras and different types of imaging, and without
getting into all the specific results, I came to the
conclusion that I believe these plants are sentient. To some extent,
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all plants not to me the fact that if you
can see auras and you look at a plant, you
can see the aura around the plant, and in some
cases it's quite big and bright. And you know, I
hate to tell you that if you're a vegetarian, I
have nothing against you, but you're you're if you're just
a vegetarian, you're still not completely getting away with not
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taking a life, because you know, you have to consume life,
I think, in order to continue living. And so even
when you eat plants, you're you're consuming some spirits. But
I never thought to hook up some very sensitive microphones
to see if plants were producing sounds per se, you know,
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like vibrations that could be heard in different ranges. And
I guess nobody else did, and until just recently, because
here is this scientific journal called sell C E L
L dot com to put out this and I first
learned about it through an article at CNN dot com
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by Katie Hunt, and essentially it says plants are not silent.
They make clicking sounds. A study finds the actual journal
Highlight says plants emit ultrasonic airborne sounds when stressed. The
emitted sounds reveal plant type and condition. Plant sounds can
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be detected and interpreted in a greenhouse setting. Okay, so
this article goes on to say at CNN, plants make
popping sounds that are undetectable to the human ear, and
they make more sounds when they're thirsty or under some
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kind of stress. The research shakes up what most botanists
thought they knew about the plant kingdom, which had been
considered largely silent, and suggests the world around us is
a cacophony of plant sounds they talk about. Lilac Hadny,
the study co author, She said she had long been
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skeptical that plants were completely noiseless. Quote, there are so
many organisms that respond to sound. I thought there was
no good reason for plants to be deaf and mute.
She is a professor at the School of Plant Sciences
and Food Security and program head of the George S.
Y's Faculty of Life Sciences at Tel Aviv University. The
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first plant she recorded using an ultrasonic microphone was a
cactus in her lab six years ago, but she could
not rule out that the sound she detected was made
by something else in the environment. Previous studies had shown
that plants made vibrations, but it wasn't known whether these
vibrations became airborne sound waves. To figure out whether plants
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actually were emitting sounds, she and her team commissioned soundproof
acoustic boxes. They placed tobacco and tomato plants in the boxes,
rigged with ultrasonic microphones that recorded frequencies between two hundred
and two hundred and fifty kilo hertz, and some of
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the plants had cut stems or had not been watered
for five days. Others were untouched, and they found that
the plants emitted sounds at a frequency of forty to
eighty kilo hertz, and when condensed and translated into a
frequency humans can hear, the noises were a bit similar
to the pop of popcorn being made or bubble wrapped bursting.
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And it says that when the tomato the tomato plants
were not stressed, they were very quiet, and a stressed
plant emitted around thirty to fifty of these popping or
clicking sounds per hour. So they're saying that they don't
know exactly how these sounds are made, but they believe
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the noises come from this process in which an air
bubble in the plant's water column collapses under some kind
of pressure, making a click or pop. So they say
they can't conclude that the cut flowers in your vase
are screaming at you in pain. But what they're saying
is that these plants are definitely making sounds that could
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be communicating with other creatures or forms of life. And
you know what's funny, We could just look at that
and say, well, they're just air bubbles escaping when you know,
or something like that. But on the other hand, you
could probably look at a human and say, if you're
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like some giant other being and you don't know what
a human is, you could be like, well, they just
have sporadic air that pops out of their mouth when
they speak, you know. So I don't know, Let's just
give it a listen, shall we. So this is what
happens when you take the sound of one of these
tomato plants and you candense it into a frequency that
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human ears can hear. This is what it sounds like.
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All right, well pretty interesting? Huh what do you think?
You know, as I was listening to that, I thought,
what if I were to take that and turn that
sound into a parasymatics sigil. What would that look like?
And would it bear any resemblance to the plants or
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the DNA of the plant, or you know, any of
those things. Hmm, I don't know. Maybe I will look
more deeply into that and see if I can come
up with some experiments. But you know, I've got some
pretty good microphones in my laboratory, so maybe I will
try seeing if I can capture some sounds from some
of my plants. I have some pretty exotic plants, like
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tickle me plants, or some call them zombie plants that
when you touch them, their leaves close up. And you know,
I'm a big fan of playing around with venus fly traps,
and I got some pretty weird stuff. So, okay, when
we come back from this break, there's actually another sound
that I want to bring up. You know, not too
long ago, I pulled out a rattlesnake rattle and rattled
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it for you here on the show, and a lot
of people contacted me and they said, you know what,
I have no idea how a rattlesnake rattle even works.
Are there some beads in there? So when we return,
I'm actually going to I'm going to shake my rattlesnake
rattler again. I'm going to tell you why it is
that a rattlesnake rattle rattles, which I find surprising. And
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then I have just a plethora of other strange and
somewhat random things that I want to get into. I'll
go through as many as I can during the last
segment of the show, and including some interesting updates for you.
So I'm Joshua Pee Warren. You're listening to Strange Things
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on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast i AM Paranormal
Podcast Network. I will be right back and welcome back
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to the final segment of this edition of Strange Things
on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.
I'm your host, Joshua P. O'warren, and I want to
let you know that you can visit an interesting display
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that I just put in place recently. Of course, I
own the Haunted Ashville Ghost Tours in Asheville, North Carolina,
So if you're going to be in that town, we'll
go to Haunted Ashville dot com and buy a ticket
and take the tour. I also created and own the
Haunted Boulder City Ghost and UFO Tour, which is a
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walking tour here in Nevada about thirty minutes outside of
Las Vegas. And if you've never been to Boulder City, Nevada,
do yourself a favor and go there. And that walking
tour is Haunted Bouldercity dot com. You can even drink
a beer as you take that one if you want.
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But what a great little charming city. You've heard me
talk a lot about it. But I am a member
of the Boulder City Chamber of Commerce and I was
talking to the staff over there, the wonderful people like
Jill and Madison, and I said, you know, I used
to have this museum in Asheville, and I have some
pretty interesting items that are not currently on display. How
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would you feel about me displaying them for a while
at the Boulder City Chamber of Commerce. And they said, yes, absolutely,
that'd be awesome. So right now, if you go to
the Boulder City Chamber of Commerce, and I think their
hours are, like, you know, nine to five every day
at least Monday through Friday, you can look it up.
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Then you can go in there and see two things
they're on display that belonged to me. One of them
is a real alien crystal skull that I attained when
I was doing my research in the Bermuda Triangle. And
it's big and it's heavy, and it's really cool and
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you can learn about it when if you make the
trip to go see it, but you can get pretty
darn close to it. It's a glass case, but it's
a real crystal skull. And some people say that it
telepathically communicates with them. And then also I have got
there on display some actual rocks from a UFO crash
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site that happened in Puerto Rico. I also attained this
when I was down there in doing my Bermuda Triangle
research for years, and this was a crash that happened
I think in like nineteen ninety seven, and I took
this big hike out into this remote area with a
couple of friends and we found this site and there
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were still rocks scorched black from this thing, and I
collected some of them and so those are now there
also on display. So go to Haunted Bouldercity dot com.
If you're going to be in the Vegas area, come
take the tour, but if you can go out during
the day, because the tour is usually in the evening,
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go out during the day and see what we have
at the visitors Well, it's the Boulder City Chamber of
Commerce there, which I think it's like the Nevada Visitors
Center also sort of combined. But anyway, that's cool. Now.
I recently did a podcast where I was talking about
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rattlesnake tails, and just you know, I was talking about
the noise that things make in nature. And I got
this significantly sized rattlesnake tail from this guy in Texas
not too long ago. I have it in my hand
right now, and uh, there you go. There it is.
There's me shaking it back and forth. If you have
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a pet, does your pet react to that? Like? Does
it scare them or freak them out? Do they know
that something threatening is nearby? Because as soon as I
got this thing, I took it up to our chihuahuas
and was like, and they did not care. On the
slightest It's very, very different, dificult to phase them. They
don't even like playing with toys half the time. So
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people said, you know, what is there? Like, are there
some beads or something in there? Well, let me tell
you a couple things real quick about rattlesnake tells that
are truly are just fascinating. For one thing, a rattlesnake
can rattle its tail ninety times per second, ninety times
per second, and it says that is twice as fast
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as the wing muscles of a hummingbird sipping nectar. Isn't
that shocking? You know? And scientists are still like trying
to study exactly how they do that. But the thing
is if you cut open a rattlesnaketail and I've not
done this, but you can find videos. At least there's
one on YouTube of a guy who does this. The
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most interesting thing is when you cut them open, it
looks like they're empty. There are no bees or anything
like that inside. But what you do find is that
each little layer of the rattle is what they call
a button, and each button is kind of like an
exterior button, and inside of it is like a slightly
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smaller button, which is a dead cell or made of
dead cells. So basically, every time a rattlesnake sheds, I
think it gets like a new button, and some of
that dead skin stays inside. So each button is actually
kind of like shells within shells, and so when the
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snake shakes its tail, you're just hearing those dried hard
shells kind of like banging against each other. I don't
know what what's the time about. You describe banging is
not a good word, but I think you understand what
I'm saying. Like these these crusty, crunchy the little layers
are are bouncing off each other, and that is what
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gives this amazing sound. But there are no little no
little objects or anything. Again, if you cut open a
rattlesnake rattler, it just looks like it's empty, except there
are two or three layers of these buttons as shells.
So that's pretty wild. In fact, let's see what do
they efficiently say? A rattlesnake rattle is made of dead
tissue and its owner shakes it by twitching sets of
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small muscles on either side of its tail. So pretty amazing.
Another example of the wonders of mother nature. Right, Okay,
next thing I want to talk to you about. Oh,
you know, I am still collecting stories for my new
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anthology called Amazing Happy Endings. And if you go to
Amazinghappy Endings dot com you can submit a story because
I've got so many great ones and I've been I
edited a version of this already, and I you know,
I love it so much. I just want to make
it bigger and bigger and keep collecting stories. If you
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can just write one paragraph, that's fine. It just has
to be a story, preferably something that happened directly to you.
That it's got to be short, it's going to be
true and it's got to have an amazing, happy ending.
And there are some examples there for you. Because I'm
going to be hopefully putting this book out finally this year.
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I've been slowly collecting stories, and I'll tell you something
kind of funny. I took a version of this just
for the heck of it, and I sent it to
a literary agent that I've worked with before, and I said,
what do you think about this? And I don't want
to tell you who the agent is, but I will
tell you it's not Lisa Hagen. Okay, So this agent
(46:57):
looked at it, and I thought the agent was going
to say, Oh, this is fantastic, this is gonna be
a big Still, basically, the agent said, it's too positive.
It's gonna make people feel too good, and that's not
what sells so much these days. And I thought, wow,
that is really said, isn't it. But I understand this
(47:20):
is a sign of the times and this is the
world in which we live, and so therefore I have
decided that I am definitely going to publish this myself
through my own company, because I would just absolutely hate
to have some editor come in and say, you know,
(47:41):
instead of amazing, happy, endings. Why don't we do amazing
terrible endings where everything just gets destroyed and their world
falls apart, and we will put dark clouds and fire
and brimstone on the cover and people ash and say
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be afraid, and it'll sell at hotcakes. No, I'm not
gonna do that. I think we need the amazing happy endings.
And all the endings don't have to necessarily be all
positive and beautify and angelic, but usually, you know they
an amazing ending is good because that's what we like.
We like good things. So I don't know how much
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longer I'm going to keep collecting those stories, but you
can get a free book if you go there and
just take a few minutes and write years for me.
Go to Amazinghappy Endings dot com, or if you go
to joshuap Warren dot com you will find a link
there at the top. Okay, I have much more to
tell you about, but it's gonna have to wait for
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another show because I am out of time. Therefore, speaking
of an amazing happy ending, let's all have one together,
shall we. I want you to make this next week
the best one ever. Take a deep breath, if you
can close your eyes and let us all listen and
meditate upon, listen to and meditate upon the good fortune.
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and weird experiments you can do at home, and a
lot more. On this edition of the show. The allegory
of the Cave and dimensions and later scientists have discovered
that plants make sounds. How about that? I'm going to
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play some for you on this podcast. All right, Dimensions
always a tough subject to talk about. It's well truly unimaginable.
And I'm not going to go into all of my
explanations for how you might comprehend dimensions. I've talked about
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it before. If you want to hear some of those
stories about flat land and how to wrap your mind
around other dimensions, go back and listen to episode fourteen
of this podcast. It's called inter Dimensional Monsters. Okay, that's
where I get into the groundwork for that sort of thing.
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But what I am going to do is tell you
about this story that was written I believe, almost two thousand,
four hundred years ago, that gives us insight today and
how that dimensions might play into our lives, you know,
other dimensions outside of the three dimensions or even the
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fourth dimension of so called time, and how that people
have always been aware of this if they were thoughtful enough.
These philosophers, and of course most people will say the
all time great philosopher was Socrates and the Allegory of
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the Cave. It is basically a story that Socrates is
telling and before I get into the actual tale, let
me just point out. You know Socrates, the ancient Greek philosopher,
he was persecuted for his teachings and he was eventually
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executed when he was about eighty years old. And they
say that there are people who are trying to rescue
him from prison, but he didn't go, and he actually
drank hemlock. I guess at eighty years old he was
ready to see something more a guy of that intelligence.
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But when I was reading about this allegory, it reminded
me of something I wrote about in my book called
Use the Force, a Jedi's Guide to the Law of Attraction,
which you can obtain through my website. And here is
page one point fifty four just gives you an idea
of how Socrates' mind worked. There's a story about Socrates
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and his approach to gossip, possibly apocryphal, that has circulated
for years, and here's one version and ancient Greece. One day,
Socrates the Great Philosopher was approached by an excited man
who said, Socrates, do you know what I just heard
about one of your students. Wait a moment, Socrates replied,
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Before you tell me, I'd like you to pass a
little test. It's called the test of three. Before you
talk to me about my student, let's take a moment
to test what you're going to say. The first test
is truth. Have you made absolutely sure that what you
are about to tell me is true? No, the man said,
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Actually I just heard about it, all right, said Socrates.
So you don't really know if it's true or not.
Now let's try the second test. The test of goodness
is what you were about to tell me about my student,
something good? Well, no, the man said. On the contrary,
so Socrates continued, you want to tell me something bad
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about him, even though you're not certain it's true. The
man shrugged a little embarrassed. Socrates continued, You may still pass, though,
because there is a third test, the filter of usefulness.
Is what you want to tell me about my student
going to be useful to me? Well? No, not really, well,
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concluded Socrates. If you want to tell me something that
is neither true, nor good, nor even useful, then why
tell it to me at all. So that's the story, folks,
that's been circulating for a long time, and whether or
not it's true, it seems to be somewhat in line
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with what philosophers call the Socratic method of questioning, And
the point is quite clear, why should you develop your
opinions about anyone or anything in the world unless you
can vouch for the accuracy of the facts. I continue writing.
Be mindful of this even more as it's even more
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import and this age of mass media, you cannot put
yourself in another person's shoes unless you have some direct
access to the information regarding that person, and even then
you should be careful to ensure it is worth your
effort to do so. Now that is all I was
going to read to you, But actually there's another interesting
little point that I'm going to include, since it comes
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right after this. There is a fascinating parallel to this
in the Sherlock Holmes stories written by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
In his story a Study in Scarlet, Holmes tells doctor
Watson he was previously unaware that the Earth revolves around
the Sun. Moreover, now that he's learned it, he will
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do his best to forget it. And when Watson protests,
Holmes imperiously interrupts and says, well, what the deuce is
it to me? You say that we go around the sun?
If we went around the moon. It would not make
a pennyworth of difference to me or to my work.
You see. Sherlock Holmes believes that the mind has a
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finite capacity for information storage, and learning useless things reduces
one ability to learn useful things. And whether or not
this is in fact true, it is a good lesson
for all of us to bear in mind. We should
strive to only take impertinent knowledge, and even then to
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only occupy our minds with knowledge that is relevant to
our lives. So I'll stop reading right there, and look,
I'm a terrible trivia buff so there's no telling how
much useless knowledge that is in my mind. But that's
just something interesting to think about, isn't it. So that
gives you a little bit of an idea, however, of
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the approach to life that Socrates was supposedly taking. And
one of socrates as students was another great philosopher turned
out to be one named Plato. And Plato had a brother,
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and his brother's name was Glaucon. All right, so about
twenty four hundred years ago Plato he wrote that one
day Socrates was talking to Plato's brother Lacon, and they
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were having a discussion Plato liked to write in dialogues,
as they would call them, you know, where two people
are exchanging ideas back and forth. And so the allegory
of the cave is Plato's presentation of this story that
Socrates was telling that I am now about to paraphrase
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for you the best I can, and I'll get started here,
but I think you know, the clock is going to
get us here, so I'll probably have to take a
break right in the middle of this. Okay. So Socrates says,
imagine a cave. Now think, folks, this is thousands of
years ago. Okay, he says, imagine a cave where people
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have been imprisoned from childhood, but not from birth. The
prisoners are chained so that their legs and necks are fixed,
forcing them to gaze at the wall in front of
them and not to look around at the cave, each
other or themselves. Behind the prisoners is a fire, and
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between the fire and the prisoners is a raised walkway
with a low wall, behind which people walk, carrying objects
or puppets of men and other living things. The men
walk behind the wall so their bodies do not cast
shadows for the prisoners to see, but the objects that
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they carry. Dude. Just as puppet showmen have screens in
front of them at which they work their puppets, the
prisoners cannot see any of what is happening behind them.
They are only able to see the shadows cast upon
the cave wall in front of them. Okay, I'm going
to stop right there and hopefully this is making sense
(11:31):
to you. These guys, they're chained to a cave facing
a wall. They can't see each other. All they know
is that they see shadows of things in front of them.
They don't know these shadows are being made by people
behind them with you know, like puppets and stuff. Shadow puppets.
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So Socrates is telling this story, the allegory of the cave.
These men are chained to this chained up inside this
cave and they're facing a wall. They can't see each other.
They don't know anything about the real world other than
shadows that are being projected from behind them on the walls. Okay,
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like shadow puppets. So the people behind them who walk
behind the wall, so their bodies, you know, are not
visible casting these things. They're like puppet masters. The prisoners
cannot see any of what is happening behind them. They
are only able to see the shadows cast upon the
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wall in front of them. They can also hear the
sounds of the people talking echo off the walls, and
the prisoners believe these sounds come from the shadows. Why
wouldn't they now, Socrates suggests that the shadows are reality
for the prisoners because they have never seen anything else.
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They do not realize that what they see are shadows
of objects in front of a fire behind them, much
less that these objects are inspired by real things outside
of the cave, which they do not see at all.
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So Socrates then supposes that the prisoners are released. Uh huh.
So a freed prisoner would look around and see the fire,
and the light would hurt his eyes and make it
difficult for him to see the objects casting the shadows.
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If he were told that what he is seeing is
real instead of the other version of reality that he
sees on the wall, he would not believe it. In
his pain, Socrates continues, the freed prisoner would turn away
and run back to what he is accustomed to, that
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is the shadows of the carried objects. The light quote
would hurt his eyes, and he would escape by turning
away to the things which he was able to look at,
and these he would believe to be clearer than what
was being shown to him in quote. But then, Socrates continues,
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he goes even further. He says, suppose that someone should
drag him out by force up the rough ascent, the
steep way up, and never stop until he could drag
him out into the light of the sun. The prisoner
would be angry and in pain, and this would only
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worsen when the radiant light of the sun overwhelms his
eyes and blinds him. Slowly his eyes adjust to the
light of the sun. First he can see only shadows.
Gradually he can see the reflections of people and things
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in water, and then later see the people in things themselves.
Eventually he is able to look at the stars and
moon at night, until finally he can look upon the
sun itself. Only after he can look straight at the
sun is he able to reason about it and what
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it is. Socrates then continues saying that the free prisoner
would think that the world outside the cave was superior
to the world he experienced in the cave. An attempt
to share this with the prisoners remaining in the cave,
attempting to bring them onto the journey he had just endured,
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says he would bless himself for the change and pity
the other prisoners, and he would want to bring his
fellow cave dwellers out of the cave and into the sunlight.
The returning prisoner, whose eyes have become accustomed to the sunlight,
would be blind when he re entered the cave, just
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as he was when he was first exposed to the sun.
The prisoners who remained, according to the dialogue, would infer
from the returning man's blindness that the journey out of
the cave had harmed him, and that they should not
undertake a similar journey. Socrates concludes that the prisoners, if
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they were able, would therefore reach out and kill anyone
who attempted to drag them out of the cave. Okay,
now hopefully you kept up with that. I know it's weird,
but it's actually a very simple story, and it is
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profound in a lot of ways, because I believe that
this story that was written almost twenty four hundred years
ago is as relevant today as it has always been.
Because this is a very simple way of trying to
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not explain what other dimensions are, because you can't really
do that in a meaningful way, but and explain how
that we humans experienced them. That even though we can't
directly experience other dimensions because their brains can only only
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go so far and do so much, the projections of
activity in those other dimensions are almost like shadows in
our dimension. They're like the shadows that were being projected
from somewhere else that the men in the cave could
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see on the wall. They were seeing the shadow, the projection,
the flat two D representation, but there was a far
cry from the actual thing that was making that projection,
much less the entire world outside the cave that was
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actually the source of everything. So other words, there are
some of us who who prefer to just stay in
the cave and look at the shadows and not adventure
outside of that, because that's what you're accustomed to, and
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you also might not be able to grasp why it's
necessary to go outside. Furthermore, you may fear it. There
are other people, however, who have a mind that works
in a different way, and they want to go out
and they go through these transformative mystical experiences. And it
can happen in a lot of ways. It can happen
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through sheer study and thought, or obviously sometimes people say
certain hallucinogens might help, or maybe a traumatic experience. I mean,
you hear all these stories. I think that it can
be accomplished, however, by some people just through sheer deep thinking.
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And therefore there are people who are able to reach
out and experience these other other models or or or
phases or forms that bring you a closer look at
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the true, behind the scenes reality. I don't think that
we're ever capable of seeing it, because you could say
that even the most ironic thing about this allegory is
that even when he goes outside the cave and he's
supposedly seeing the real real world, well he's still he's
still in the cave by our standards, because now we
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know there are these other dimensions that are beyond that.
So when it comes to these ideas about what are
phantoms or other bizarre our creatures, or how does consciousness work,
or how can we manipulate reality with our minds and
manifest things or see into the future or the past,
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it ties into this ability that that information could well,
it could be retrieved from these other dimensions, and that
this whole reality that we live in is kind of
a holograph, a holographic universe, or as I call it,
a holocentiate universe, and that we are simply seeing the
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exterior edge of some of these things that are existing
outside of us and beyond us. And this may be
one of the best early examples of describing other dimensions
and interdimensional phenomena and how and why we interact with it.
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And I hope you see that the way I do,
which is what I wanted to share it with you,
because I think that's really fascinating. And you know, you
watch these some of these scientists today who talk about
not believing in all this kind of paranormal stuff, and
then you turn around and you talk to the best
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scientists in the world who have won Nobel Prizes studying
quantum physics, and they say, oh, yeah, it's Alice in
Wonderland here. You know, it's down the rabbit hole like
anything as possible, that there's no such thing as a
set reality, that there are other places where things are.
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You know, information comes from and goes to. And I
mean like, so the best smartest scientists out there are
telling us that there comes a point where you can't
really differentiate too much between hardcore science and philosophy. Right, Okay,
when we come back from this break, I'll give you
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one more like finishing thought on that topic, and then
I want to play this audio for you. I've never
heard this before. It's apparently some pretty new research. Scientists
have just discovered that plants make sounds. And this is
another example of what I'm talking about. You may feel
(25:19):
secure that you know everything, and then one day, nope,
new discovery. The world is much more complex than we
can imagine. I'm Joshua Pee Warren. You're listening to Strange
Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast. I am
Paranormal Podcast Network, and I'll be back after these important messages.
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Welcome back to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast
to Coast. I am heron Normal Podcast Network. I'm your host,
Joshua P. Warren, and this is the show where the
unusual becomes usual. Just to wrap up my thoughts on
the allegory of the cave and other dimensions, My wife
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Lauren and I have two little chihuahuas named Dolly and Lama,
both females, and they're both very good natured, even though
we're pretty sure that Lama has got some chupacabra in her,
but you've heard me talk about that before. And so
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these dogs, they are never allowed to go out our
front door because you know, we live in Las Vegas,
and these are the kinds of dogs like especially Dolly.
She's so fast. If she sees something like a pigeon
or whatever, it's like streak of lightning. She's gone. And
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you know, I have this section out back where we have,
you know, a swimming pool and a spa. We've had
a nice setup out here, so they get plenty of
room to go out back and have some outside time
when we're not we're not taking them for a special
walk or something, but we never let them go out
the front door. And whenever I open the front door.
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The dogs, especially Dolly, she'll run up and she'll stand
right there and she'll just want to catch a peek
of what's outside. Now, I gotta be very careful that
she doesn't just shoot right by me, and I say,
get no, get back, get back, get back. And I'm
sure she thinks that I'm just being a mean old guy,
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you know, not letting her go out there. And she
has no idea that if she goes out there, that
there are these zooming cars that could hit her at
an instant and kill her. Right. That's not She's not
able to comprehend that. And that reminds me also of
the allegory of the cave, that there are certain things
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that we humans are not allowed to do and that
might make us angry. We say, well, this is a
bunch of bull. And I don't like God or the
universe or whoever you want to blame, because there are
things that you think you should have or be able
to achieve and and and it's just not happening for you.
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But you may not realize what you're asking for. In
some cases, going outside of the cave might actually be
dangerous for you. And I mean, look at how many
astronauts have died trying to go outside of the cave
a little farther. So anyway, just another way of looking
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at that. Well, let's move on to plant life, shall we.
I have always believed that plants have spirits. One of
the reasons that I believe that now is because a
long time ago, I'm talking, you know, twenty some years ago,
I started doing experiments along with a Lemur team about
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experiments with plants. We would get plants and we would
hook them up to biofeedback devices and see what kind
of signals they were producing under different circumstances, photograph them
with carelelying cameras and different types of imaging, and without
getting into all the specific results, I came to the
conclusion that I believe these plants are sentient. To some extent,
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all plants not to me the fact that if you
can see auras and you look at a plant, you
can see the aura around the plant, and in some
cases it's quite big and bright. And you know, I
hate to tell you that if you're a vegetarian, I
have nothing against you, but you're you're if you're just
a vegetarian, you're still not completely getting away with not
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taking a life, because you know, you have to consume life,
I think, in order to continue living. And so even
when you eat plants, you're you're consuming some spirits. But
I never thought to hook up some very sensitive microphones
to see if plants were producing sounds per se, you know,
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like vibrations that could be heard in different ranges. And
I guess nobody else did, and until just recently, because
here is this scientific journal called sell C E L
L dot com to put out this and I first
learned about it through an article at CNN dot com
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by Katie Hunt, and essentially it says plants are not silent.
They make clicking sounds. A study finds the actual journal
Highlight says plants emit ultrasonic airborne sounds when stressed. The
emitted sounds reveal plant type and condition. Plant sounds can
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be detected and interpreted in a greenhouse setting. Okay, so
this article goes on to say at CNN, plants make
popping sounds that are undetectable to the human ear, and
they make more sounds when they're thirsty or under some
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kind of stress. The research shakes up what most botanists
thought they knew about the plant kingdom, which had been
considered largely silent, and suggests the world around us is
a cacophony of plant sounds they talk about. Lilac Hadny,
the study co author, She said she had long been
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skeptical that plants were completely noiseless. Quote, there are so
many organisms that respond to sound. I thought there was
no good reason for plants to be deaf and mute.
She is a professor at the School of Plant Sciences
and Food Security and program head of the George S.
Y's Faculty of Life Sciences at Tel Aviv University. The
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first plant she recorded using an ultrasonic microphone was a
cactus in her lab six years ago, but she could
not rule out that the sound she detected was made
by something else in the environment. Previous studies had shown
that plants made vibrations, but it wasn't known whether these
vibrations became airborne sound waves. To figure out whether plants
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actually were emitting sounds, she and her team commissioned soundproof
acoustic boxes. They placed tobacco and tomato plants in the boxes,
rigged with ultrasonic microphones that recorded frequencies between two hundred
and two hundred and fifty kilo hertz, and some of
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the plants had cut stems or had not been watered
for five days. Others were untouched, and they found that
the plants emitted sounds at a frequency of forty to
eighty kilo hertz, and when condensed and translated into a
frequency humans can hear, the noises were a bit similar
to the pop of popcorn being made or bubble wrapped bursting.
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And it says that when the tomato the tomato plants
were not stressed, they were very quiet, and a stressed
plant emitted around thirty to fifty of these popping or
clicking sounds per hour. So they're saying that they don't
know exactly how these sounds are made, but they believe
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the noises come from this process in which an air
bubble in the plant's water column collapses under some kind
of pressure, making a click or pop. So they say
they can't conclude that the cut flowers in your vase
are screaming at you in pain. But what they're saying
is that these plants are definitely making sounds that could
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be communicating with other creatures or forms of life. And
you know what's funny, We could just look at that
and say, well, they're just air bubbles escaping when you know,
or something like that. But on the other hand, you
could probably look at a human and say, if you're
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like some giant other being and you don't know what
a human is, you could be like, well, they just
have sporadic air that pops out of their mouth when
they speak, you know. So I don't know, Let's just
give it a listen, shall we. So this is what
happens when you take the sound of one of these
tomato plants and you candense it into a frequency that
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human ears can hear. This is what it sounds like.
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All right, well pretty interesting? Huh what do you think?
You know, as I was listening to that, I thought,
what if I were to take that and turn that
sound into a parasymatics sigil. What would that look like?
And would it bear any resemblance to the plants or
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the DNA of the plant, or you know, any of
those things. Hmm, I don't know. Maybe I will look
more deeply into that and see if I can come
up with some experiments. But you know, I've got some
pretty good microphones in my laboratory, so maybe I will
try seeing if I can capture some sounds from some
of my plants. I have some pretty exotic plants, like
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tickle me plants, or some call them zombie plants that
when you touch them, their leaves close up. And you know,
I'm a big fan of playing around with venus fly traps,
and I got some pretty weird stuff. So, okay, when
we come back from this break, there's actually another sound
that I want to bring up. You know, not too
long ago, I pulled out a rattlesnake rattle and rattled
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it for you here on the show, and a lot
of people contacted me and they said, you know what,
I have no idea how a rattlesnake rattle even works.
Are there some beads in there? So when we return,
I'm actually going to I'm going to shake my rattlesnake
rattler again. I'm going to tell you why it is
that a rattlesnake rattle rattles, which I find surprising. And
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then I have just a plethora of other strange and
somewhat random things that I want to get into. I'll
go through as many as I can during the last
segment of the show, and including some interesting updates for you.
So I'm Joshua Pee Warren. You're listening to Strange Things
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on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast i AM Paranormal
Podcast Network. I will be right back and welcome back
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to the final segment of this edition of Strange Things
on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.
I'm your host, Joshua P. O'warren, and I want to
let you know that you can visit an interesting display
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that I just put in place recently. Of course, I
own the Haunted Ashville Ghost Tours in Asheville, North Carolina,
So if you're going to be in that town, we'll
go to Haunted Ashville dot com and buy a ticket
and take the tour. I also created and own the
Haunted Boulder City Ghost and UFO Tour, which is a
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walking tour here in Nevada about thirty minutes outside of
Las Vegas. And if you've never been to Boulder City, Nevada,
do yourself a favor and go there. And that walking
tour is Haunted Bouldercity dot com. You can even drink
a beer as you take that one if you want.
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But what a great little charming city. You've heard me
talk a lot about it. But I am a member
of the Boulder City Chamber of Commerce and I was
talking to the staff over there, the wonderful people like
Jill and Madison, and I said, you know, I used
to have this museum in Asheville, and I have some
pretty interesting items that are not currently on display. How
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would you feel about me displaying them for a while
at the Boulder City Chamber of Commerce. And they said, yes, absolutely,
that'd be awesome. So right now, if you go to
the Boulder City Chamber of Commerce, and I think their
hours are, like, you know, nine to five every day
at least Monday through Friday, you can look it up.
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Then you can go in there and see two things
they're on display that belonged to me. One of them
is a real alien crystal skull that I attained when
I was doing my research in the Bermuda Triangle. And
it's big and it's heavy, and it's really cool and
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you can learn about it when if you make the
trip to go see it, but you can get pretty
darn close to it. It's a glass case, but it's
a real crystal skull. And some people say that it
telepathically communicates with them. And then also I have got
there on display some actual rocks from a UFO crash
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site that happened in Puerto Rico. I also attained this
when I was down there in doing my Bermuda Triangle
research for years, and this was a crash that happened
I think in like nineteen ninety seven, and I took
this big hike out into this remote area with a
couple of friends and we found this site and there
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were still rocks scorched black from this thing, and I
collected some of them and so those are now there
also on display. So go to Haunted Bouldercity dot com.
If you're going to be in the Vegas area, come
take the tour, but if you can go out during
the day, because the tour is usually in the evening,
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go out during the day and see what we have
at the visitors Well, it's the Boulder City Chamber of
Commerce there, which I think it's like the Nevada Visitors
Center also sort of combined. But anyway, that's cool. Now.
I recently did a podcast where I was talking about
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rattlesnake tails, and just you know, I was talking about
the noise that things make in nature. And I got
this significantly sized rattlesnake tail from this guy in Texas
not too long ago. I have it in my hand
right now, and uh, there you go. There it is.
There's me shaking it back and forth. If you have
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a pet, does your pet react to that? Like? Does
it scare them or freak them out? Do they know
that something threatening is nearby? Because as soon as I
got this thing, I took it up to our chihuahuas
and was like, and they did not care. On the
slightest It's very, very different, dificult to phase them. They
don't even like playing with toys half the time. So
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people said, you know, what is there? Like, are there
some beads or something in there? Well, let me tell
you a couple things real quick about rattlesnake tells that
are truly are just fascinating. For one thing, a rattlesnake
can rattle its tail ninety times per second, ninety times
per second, and it says that is twice as fast
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as the wing muscles of a hummingbird sipping nectar. Isn't
that shocking? You know? And scientists are still like trying
to study exactly how they do that. But the thing
is if you cut open a rattlesnaketail and I've not
done this, but you can find videos. At least there's
one on YouTube of a guy who does this. The
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most interesting thing is when you cut them open, it
looks like they're empty. There are no bees or anything
like that inside. But what you do find is that
each little layer of the rattle is what they call
a button, and each button is kind of like an
exterior button, and inside of it is like a slightly
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smaller button, which is a dead cell or made of
dead cells. So basically, every time a rattlesnake sheds, I
think it gets like a new button, and some of
that dead skin stays inside. So each button is actually
kind of like shells within shells, and so when the
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snake shakes its tail, you're just hearing those dried hard
shells kind of like banging against each other. I don't
know what what's the time about. You describe banging is
not a good word, but I think you understand what
I'm saying. Like these these crusty, crunchy the little layers
are are bouncing off each other, and that is what
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gives this amazing sound. But there are no little no
little objects or anything. Again, if you cut open a
rattlesnake rattler, it just looks like it's empty, except there
are two or three layers of these buttons as shells.
So that's pretty wild. In fact, let's see what do
they efficiently say? A rattlesnake rattle is made of dead
tissue and its owner shakes it by twitching sets of
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small muscles on either side of its tail. So pretty amazing.
Another example of the wonders of mother nature. Right, Okay,
next thing I want to talk to you about. Oh,
you know, I am still collecting stories for my new
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anthology called Amazing Happy Endings. And if you go to
Amazinghappy Endings dot com you can submit a story because
I've got so many great ones and I've been I
edited a version of this already, and I you know,
I love it so much. I just want to make
it bigger and bigger and keep collecting stories. If you
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can just write one paragraph, that's fine. It just has
to be a story, preferably something that happened directly to you.
That it's got to be short, it's going to be
true and it's got to have an amazing, happy ending.
And there are some examples there for you. Because I'm
going to be hopefully putting this book out finally this year.
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I've been slowly collecting stories, and I'll tell you something
kind of funny. I took a version of this just
for the heck of it, and I sent it to
a literary agent that I've worked with before, and I said,
what do you think about this? And I don't want
to tell you who the agent is, but I will
tell you it's not Lisa Hagen. Okay, So this agent
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looked at it, and I thought the agent was going
to say, Oh, this is fantastic, this is gonna be
a big Still, basically, the agent said, it's too positive.
It's gonna make people feel too good, and that's not
what sells so much these days. And I thought, wow,
that is really said, isn't it. But I understand this
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is a sign of the times and this is the
world in which we live, and so therefore I have
decided that I am definitely going to publish this myself
through my own company, because I would just absolutely hate
to have some editor come in and say, you know,
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instead of amazing, happy, endings. Why don't we do amazing
terrible endings where everything just gets destroyed and their world
falls apart, and we will put dark clouds and fire
and brimstone on the cover and people ash and say
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be afraid, and it'll sell at hotcakes. No, I'm not
gonna do that. I think we need the amazing happy endings.
And all the endings don't have to necessarily be all
positive and beautify and angelic, but usually, you know they
an amazing ending is good because that's what we like.
We like good things. So I don't know how much
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longer I'm going to keep collecting those stories, but you
can get a free book if you go there and
just take a few minutes and write years for me.
Go to Amazinghappy Endings dot com, or if you go
to joshuap Warren dot com you will find a link
there at the top. Okay, I have much more to
tell you about, but it's gonna have to wait for
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another show because I am out of time. Therefore, speaking
of an amazing happy ending, let's all have one together,
shall we. I want you to make this next week
the best one ever. Take a deep breath, if you
can close your eyes and let us all listen and
meditate upon, listen to and meditate upon the good fortune.
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Ton that's it for this edition of the show. Follow
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you next time, I promise, So please tell all your
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friends to subscribe to this show, and to all, please
remember the Golden Rule. Thank you for listening, Thank you
for your interest and support, Thank you for staying curious,
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