February 18, 2026 • 14 mins
Back in the 1800s, people had an outsized fear of being buried alive. Enter... THE SAFETY COFFIN!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hey, and welcome to the short stuff. I'm Josh, and
there's Chuck, and Jerry's here too. Dave's here in spirit.
So this is a short stuff that we can begin now.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
That's right, Josh, let me set the stage. It's seventeen
ninety nine. Founding Father George Washington is on his deathbed.
He calls over his secretary Tobias Lear and says.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I am just going have me decently buried, but do
not let my body be put into the vault in
less than three days after I'm dead, because you never know.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
That is the last part, But that's basically what he
was saying.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Yeah, so, yeah, and that was a great George Washington,
especially dying George Washington.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
The reason why he said that is because at the time,
there was a there was a chance, let's call it
a non zero chance to get nerdy, yeah, that you
you might be buried alive accidentally. There's all sorts of
different conditions and stuff that we understand. Now, if you
hook somebody up to like a EKG or EEG or
some sort of g, you'd be able to detect their
(01:13):
heartbeat that you wouldn't be able to, say, like palpitating
it with your fingers or like watching somebody to see
if they're actually breathing. You might not even have a
decent doctor around at the time, and you may end
up being buried alive, in which case you are ft. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
I wonder when they started checking pulses.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I don't know, let's say, eighteen hundred on the dot.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I did a quick, rare look up, and if we
trust the AI overview.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I do not.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
All right, National Institutes of Health.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Sure they're talking like four thousand plus years they've been
checking pulses.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Okay, wellparently some people were better at it than others,
because there do seem to be documented accounts of people
who are found like entombed who had like scratch marks
on their coffin, or they were actually out of their
coffin in a tomb that seemed to have been buried alive,
(02:21):
came to and then actually did die.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah, like they said, I feel betja and they got
up and so you know, let's say it didn't happen
that much, because it probably didn't happen enough to the
level of which people were scared of it.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Sure, like a plane crash, Yeah, it seems.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
To be an outsized fear back then of being buried alive.
That is an actual phobia. It's called taphaphobia. T a
p h e is Greek for burial. And you know,
because where we're going with all this, and we may
have mentioned this briefly in our Coffins episode, I know
we have, we had to it, but this is a
deeper dive into what was known as a security coffin
(03:03):
or a safety coffin, which was you know, for a
while there a lot of people got patents to build
coffins that had all these little kind of ingenious ways
to either get you out of there or alert people
above ground that hey, I'm feeling better.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Right, come get me, I got some life left in me, right.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
These patents date back to the seventeen nineties. I think
in Central Europe at least. There's a guy in this
House Stuff Works article that they interviewed named Adam Bisno,
who's a historian at the US Patent and Trademark Office,
and so he would know about patents, even ones in
Central Europe from the eighteenth century and at this time.
(03:45):
The argument that's made for the kind of sudden appearance
for them is that this coincides with the popularity of romanticism,
which kind of came as a backlash to the rationalism
of enlightenment. The Enlightenment and romanticism is like, no, there's
stuff beyond this life that we can't see. There's there's
(04:06):
beauty in nature, there's like all of the stuff that
you can't just think your way out of or think
you're like things that you can't see that actually do exist,
and there's probably some sort of afterlife, and who knows
whether the people are fully gone. This eventually led to
the rise of mediums and spiritualism, and there was just
(04:28):
this kind of zeitgeist that the dead could conceivably still
be in some sort of contact or communication, which doesn't
directly go to taphophobia, but if you're already thinking, like
I don't want to be buried alive, this would probably
goose you into potentially buying a safety coffin.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Yeah for sure. I Mean.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
The sort of a popular idea at the time was
that there the veil is very thin between life and death. Ah, yes,
and like how thin could it be? Like maybe so
thin where you bury me by accident?
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, like poor Bill Pullman and Serpent in the Rainbow.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Oh yeah, or.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Keefer Sutherland's wife in that movie, which was a remake
of a foreign film.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
So good, both of them were. It was one of
those rare films where the American adaptation was just as
good as the European original. Both of them are worth seeing.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
What were those calls? Yeah vanishing?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah yeah, so yeah. And then also that poor guy
who almost got buried in the Twilight Zone, but he
started crying because he was so sad and scared, and
some nurse, one of the nurses noticed his tear was like, doctor,
he's still alive right before. I think they did an
autopsy on him.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Yeah, or like Uma Thurman and kill Bill.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
That's a great one too, sure, I think Also, Barnabas Collins,
you can make a case for in Dark Shadows, the
TV show, not the terrible, terrible, terrible movie.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
I didn't see that.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I saw twenty minutes of it. I was like, oh, boy,
like these people should be individually shamed for this.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
It was Tim Burton, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yes, Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, So we're going to
take a break and call Tim Burton, tell him to
think about what he's done, and we'll be right back
with safety Coffins soffy jaws. All right, So more than
(06:45):
one hundred security coffin patents were granted in the United
States alone in the nineteenth century, and they got a
little wacky, like each one had its own sort of
spin on the best way to either get someone out
or to alert people above ground.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah. One way was like you could just do something
as simple as a bell to basically and put the
cord in the person's hand and they could just like
pull the bell. It's pretty simple and straightforward. There are
others that had, like I guess they would put a
tube in that led and connected to the coffin and
(07:20):
then buried the person buried around that stuff, so if
the person came to they could actually crawl use the
ladder to crawl out of their own grave. Which talk
about a story to tell at parties.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
It's like, you guys aren't gonna believe this.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yeah, are you the guy who crumb climbed out of
his crave?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yeah, because you know that starts at the dinner party
when anyone's like, I've been really lucky. I haven't lost
a lot of close friends. Like has anyone ever lost
like close friends and had to like preside over their
funeral and the guy just puts his napkin.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
In his lap.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
That's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Yeah, a life preserving coffin, I believe, is what the
patent file was in eighteen forty three from Christian Eisenbront
of Baltimore, Maryland. And this had a spring loaded lid
where if you the quote was, the slightest motion of
either the head or the hand would spring this thing up.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Of course, that's no.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Good if you're buried under six feet of dirt. So
his suggestion is like, hey, if this coffin only works
if you're in a tomb like an above ground vault,
and you got to leave a key on the inside
of that thing. So if you pop out of the
coffin and you're still locked in the tomb, that's no
good either.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Can't you see a loved one like sitting up in
the middle of the night like I forgot to leave
the key. Yeah, there's another problem with that too, if
this thing sprung open at the slightest movement of the
of the person. Corpses move and shift around during decomposition,
and I'm sure that that has accounted. Like I think
there's accounts of corpses flipping over and being found face down.
(08:53):
I'm sure that that accounts for a lot of the
stories of people being found and suspected to have been
buried alive. But I don't think corpses like leave claw
marks on there their coffins, So there seemed to be
some that are legit.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Edgar Allan Poe didn't help things much when in eighteen
forty four he wrote a short story called The Premature Burial,
where in it he says, to be buried alive is
beyond question the most terrific of those these extremes, which
has ever fallen to the lot of mere mortality that
it has frequently, very frequently, so fallen will scarcely be
(09:31):
denied by those who think. And then he talks about
the boundaries between life and death being shadowy and vague,
kind of playing into that he was writing of the times,
you know, because that's like we talked about, that's kind
of how people thought of things. So after that, I
think there were even more people coming out with these things.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah. There was a guy named Franz Vester who in
New Jersey, I guess it's where he was from. He
had an improved burial case and you could essentially climb
out of it. I think this was the one that
had the tube with the ladder. Yeah, and if you
were two weak you could pull on a bell. So
this was like, you know, I had a fail safe.
(10:09):
And he gave demonstrations of his coffin where he would
be buried under like four feet of dirt and would
make his way out of the coffin back above ground.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, he's not the only one. It seems like the
big showman because this was sort of around the snake
oil time where you would put on a big show
to try and talk people into buying your thing. Sure,
and in the nineteenth century there was a guy, Count
de Michele de Carnice Carniki, such a great name. He
dubbed himself as the Chamberlain to the Tsar of Russia.
(10:43):
Whatever that means.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
It's the high ranking manager of a royal household.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Oh okay. So he was like, yeah, like a.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Butler essentially, but he was in charge of everybody, like
the head butler, yeah, I guess sure, or the chamberlain.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I mean, hey, I'm not trying to degrade him. Because
he was quite the showman. He would travel through the
Europe and the United States trying to sell his unit
called the Carnice. And there was an article from the
Chicago Tribune in eighteen ninety nine that they would read
before his big show where at the Academy of Medicine
in New York City, doctor Henry J.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
How would you pronounce that one?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Gregus Gerragus where he startled his fellow members with the
assertion that one of every two hundred people buried in
the US was actually in a lethargic state and is
buried alive. So very dubious numbers, obviously, but he would
use that as prelude to take the stage and do
his own demonstration where he would bury somebody alive.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah, and La Carnice had an own had like a bell. Again,
this is pretty low hanging fruit, and it makes a
lot of sense. But he also put in a tube
that you could breathe through. You could also talk through it, yeah,
and be like, what's what's been going on in the
last few days? Now you wait for help? And he didn't.
(12:08):
He wasn't himself buried alive like Frank Franz Vestor. He
would get volunteers to do it. And there's a guy
named Faropo Lorenzo, who is Italian, believe it or not,
and he volunteered to be buried alive in this this
La Carnice casket and he stayed there for nine days
back in eighteen ninety eight, which is currently still the
(12:31):
record for being buried alive.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I think at one point on day like seven, he
spoke through the tube and he was like, I'm gonna
put my mouth around the tube now and just drop
a couple of tic.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
TACs, right, Yeah. And then the next day he shouted,
I got a poop through the through the tube. Nine days, chuck,
let's think about that.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Uh yeah, that's a long time and that seems verified.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah. There's one other thing too that we can't mentioned.
We've definitely mentioned him before, but I find it so fascinating.
Timothy Clark Smith, who's grave in New Haven, Vermont, not Connecticut,
back in I think eighteen ninety three, was fitted out
with a window that looked down the six feet to
(13:18):
his face. Oh that was exposed so that passer's bike
can't check on him to make sure that he wasn't alive.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Man.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
And it's still there today, except you just can't see
very far. Because the windows kind of well, it's more
than one hundred years old.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Yeah, that's too bad.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
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Speaker 4 (13:36):
Man, I got nothing else?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
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Speaker 2 (13:40):
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Speaker 1 (13:52):
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Hey, and welcome to the short stuff. I'm Josh, and
there's Chuck, and Jerry's here too. Dave's here in spirit.
So this is a short stuff that we can begin now.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
That's right, Josh, let me set the stage. It's seventeen
ninety nine. Founding Father George Washington is on his deathbed.
He calls over his secretary Tobias Lear and says.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I am just going have me decently buried, but do
not let my body be put into the vault in
less than three days after I'm dead, because you never know.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
That is the last part, But that's basically what he
was saying.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Yeah, so, yeah, and that was a great George Washington,
especially dying George Washington.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
The reason why he said that is because at the time,
there was a there was a chance, let's call it
a non zero chance to get nerdy, yeah, that you
you might be buried alive accidentally. There's all sorts of
different conditions and stuff that we understand. Now, if you
hook somebody up to like a EKG or EEG or
some sort of g, you'd be able to detect their
(01:13):
heartbeat that you wouldn't be able to, say, like palpitating
it with your fingers or like watching somebody to see
if they're actually breathing. You might not even have a
decent doctor around at the time, and you may end
up being buried alive, in which case you are ft. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
I wonder when they started checking pulses.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I don't know, let's say, eighteen hundred on the dot.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I did a quick, rare look up, and if we
trust the AI overview.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I do not.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
All right, National Institutes of Health.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Sure they're talking like four thousand plus years they've been
checking pulses.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Okay, wellparently some people were better at it than others,
because there do seem to be documented accounts of people
who are found like entombed who had like scratch marks
on their coffin, or they were actually out of their
coffin in a tomb that seemed to have been buried alive,
(02:21):
came to and then actually did die.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah, like they said, I feel betja and they got
up and so you know, let's say it didn't happen
that much, because it probably didn't happen enough to the
level of which people were scared of it.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Sure, like a plane crash, Yeah, it seems.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
To be an outsized fear back then of being buried alive.
That is an actual phobia. It's called taphaphobia. T a
p h e is Greek for burial. And you know,
because where we're going with all this, and we may
have mentioned this briefly in our Coffins episode, I know
we have, we had to it, but this is a
deeper dive into what was known as a security coffin
(03:03):
or a safety coffin, which was you know, for a
while there a lot of people got patents to build
coffins that had all these little kind of ingenious ways
to either get you out of there or alert people
above ground that hey, I'm feeling better.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Right, come get me, I got some life left in me, right.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
These patents date back to the seventeen nineties. I think
in Central Europe at least. There's a guy in this
House Stuff Works article that they interviewed named Adam Bisno,
who's a historian at the US Patent and Trademark Office,
and so he would know about patents, even ones in
Central Europe from the eighteenth century and at this time.
(03:45):
The argument that's made for the kind of sudden appearance
for them is that this coincides with the popularity of romanticism,
which kind of came as a backlash to the rationalism
of enlightenment. The Enlightenment and romanticism is like, no, there's
stuff beyond this life that we can't see. There's there's
(04:06):
beauty in nature, there's like all of the stuff that
you can't just think your way out of or think
you're like things that you can't see that actually do exist,
and there's probably some sort of afterlife, and who knows
whether the people are fully gone. This eventually led to
the rise of mediums and spiritualism, and there was just
(04:28):
this kind of zeitgeist that the dead could conceivably still
be in some sort of contact or communication, which doesn't
directly go to taphophobia, but if you're already thinking, like
I don't want to be buried alive, this would probably
goose you into potentially buying a safety coffin.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Yeah for sure. I Mean.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
The sort of a popular idea at the time was
that there the veil is very thin between life and death. Ah, yes,
and like how thin could it be? Like maybe so
thin where you bury me by accident?
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, like poor Bill Pullman and Serpent in the Rainbow.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Oh yeah, or.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Keefer Sutherland's wife in that movie, which was a remake
of a foreign film.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
So good, both of them were. It was one of
those rare films where the American adaptation was just as
good as the European original. Both of them are worth seeing.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
What were those calls? Yeah vanishing?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah yeah, so yeah. And then also that poor guy
who almost got buried in the Twilight Zone, but he
started crying because he was so sad and scared, and
some nurse, one of the nurses noticed his tear was like, doctor,
he's still alive right before. I think they did an
autopsy on him.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Yeah, or like Uma Thurman and kill Bill.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
That's a great one too, sure, I think Also, Barnabas Collins,
you can make a case for in Dark Shadows, the
TV show, not the terrible, terrible, terrible movie.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
I didn't see that.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I saw twenty minutes of it. I was like, oh, boy,
like these people should be individually shamed for this.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
It was Tim Burton, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yes, Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, So we're going to
take a break and call Tim Burton, tell him to
think about what he's done, and we'll be right back
with safety Coffins soffy jaws. All right, So more than
(06:45):
one hundred security coffin patents were granted in the United
States alone in the nineteenth century, and they got a
little wacky, like each one had its own sort of
spin on the best way to either get someone out
or to alert people above ground.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah. One way was like you could just do something
as simple as a bell to basically and put the
cord in the person's hand and they could just like
pull the bell. It's pretty simple and straightforward. There are
others that had, like I guess they would put a
tube in that led and connected to the coffin and
(07:20):
then buried the person buried around that stuff, so if
the person came to they could actually crawl use the
ladder to crawl out of their own grave. Which talk
about a story to tell at parties.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
It's like, you guys aren't gonna believe this.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yeah, are you the guy who crumb climbed out of
his crave?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yeah, because you know that starts at the dinner party
when anyone's like, I've been really lucky. I haven't lost
a lot of close friends. Like has anyone ever lost
like close friends and had to like preside over their
funeral and the guy just puts his napkin.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
In his lap.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
That's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Yeah, a life preserving coffin, I believe, is what the
patent file was in eighteen forty three from Christian Eisenbront
of Baltimore, Maryland. And this had a spring loaded lid
where if you the quote was, the slightest motion of
either the head or the hand would spring this thing up.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Of course, that's no.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Good if you're buried under six feet of dirt. So
his suggestion is like, hey, if this coffin only works
if you're in a tomb like an above ground vault,
and you got to leave a key on the inside
of that thing. So if you pop out of the
coffin and you're still locked in the tomb, that's no
good either.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Can't you see a loved one like sitting up in
the middle of the night like I forgot to leave
the key. Yeah, there's another problem with that too, if
this thing sprung open at the slightest movement of the
of the person. Corpses move and shift around during decomposition,
and I'm sure that that has accounted. Like I think
there's accounts of corpses flipping over and being found face down.
(08:53):
I'm sure that that accounts for a lot of the
stories of people being found and suspected to have been
buried alive. But I don't think corpses like leave claw
marks on there their coffins, So there seemed to be
some that are legit.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Edgar Allan Poe didn't help things much when in eighteen
forty four he wrote a short story called The Premature Burial,
where in it he says, to be buried alive is
beyond question the most terrific of those these extremes, which
has ever fallen to the lot of mere mortality that
it has frequently, very frequently, so fallen will scarcely be
(09:31):
denied by those who think. And then he talks about
the boundaries between life and death being shadowy and vague,
kind of playing into that he was writing of the times,
you know, because that's like we talked about, that's kind
of how people thought of things. So after that, I
think there were even more people coming out with these things.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah. There was a guy named Franz Vester who in
New Jersey, I guess it's where he was from. He
had an improved burial case and you could essentially climb
out of it. I think this was the one that
had the tube with the ladder. Yeah, and if you
were two weak you could pull on a bell. So
this was like, you know, I had a fail safe.
(10:09):
And he gave demonstrations of his coffin where he would
be buried under like four feet of dirt and would
make his way out of the coffin back above ground.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, he's not the only one. It seems like the
big showman because this was sort of around the snake
oil time where you would put on a big show
to try and talk people into buying your thing. Sure,
and in the nineteenth century there was a guy, Count
de Michele de Carnice Carniki, such a great name. He
dubbed himself as the Chamberlain to the Tsar of Russia.
(10:43):
Whatever that means.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
It's the high ranking manager of a royal household.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Oh okay. So he was like, yeah, like a.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Butler essentially, but he was in charge of everybody, like
the head butler, yeah, I guess sure, or the chamberlain.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I mean, hey, I'm not trying to degrade him. Because
he was quite the showman. He would travel through the
Europe and the United States trying to sell his unit
called the Carnice. And there was an article from the
Chicago Tribune in eighteen ninety nine that they would read
before his big show where at the Academy of Medicine
in New York City, doctor Henry J.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
How would you pronounce that one?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Gregus Gerragus where he startled his fellow members with the
assertion that one of every two hundred people buried in
the US was actually in a lethargic state and is
buried alive. So very dubious numbers, obviously, but he would
use that as prelude to take the stage and do
his own demonstration where he would bury somebody alive.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah, and La Carnice had an own had like a bell. Again,
this is pretty low hanging fruit, and it makes a
lot of sense. But he also put in a tube
that you could breathe through. You could also talk through it, yeah,
and be like, what's what's been going on in the
last few days? Now you wait for help? And he didn't.
(12:08):
He wasn't himself buried alive like Frank Franz Vestor. He
would get volunteers to do it. And there's a guy
named Faropo Lorenzo, who is Italian, believe it or not,
and he volunteered to be buried alive in this this
La Carnice casket and he stayed there for nine days
back in eighteen ninety eight, which is currently still the
(12:31):
record for being buried alive.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I think at one point on day like seven, he
spoke through the tube and he was like, I'm gonna
put my mouth around the tube now and just drop
a couple of tic.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
TACs, right, Yeah. And then the next day he shouted,
I got a poop through the through the tube. Nine days, chuck,
let's think about that.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Uh yeah, that's a long time and that seems verified.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah. There's one other thing too that we can't mentioned.
We've definitely mentioned him before, but I find it so fascinating.
Timothy Clark Smith, who's grave in New Haven, Vermont, not Connecticut,
back in I think eighteen ninety three, was fitted out
with a window that looked down the six feet to
(13:18):
his face. Oh that was exposed so that passer's bike
can't check on him to make sure that he wasn't alive.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Man.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
And it's still there today, except you just can't see
very far. Because the windows kind of well, it's more
than one hundred years old.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Yeah, that's too bad.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
You got anything else?
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Man, I got nothing else?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
And say it.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Then I guess short stuff is out.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
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Speaker 1 (13:52):
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