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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Taking a Walk concert season doesn't belong to just one generation,
and this month, on Taking a Walk, we're proving it. Buzznight,
your host, and welcome back to our live and legendary feature,
our April celebration of what happens when artists leave the
studio behind and take their music to the masses. Because
the road doesn't care how you got there, It only
(00:23):
cares what you bring when the lights go up, and
today's guests bring everything. If you've been anywhere near a festival,
line up, a stadium stage, or honestly just a packed
arena full of people, people who know every single word,
you already know Ajar brothers Jack and Ryan met from Ajar.
They've built something genuinely rare in modern music, a sound
(00:45):
that's completely their own, a fan base that is ferociously loyal,
and a live show that becomes a full blown shared experience.
They write it, produce it, perform it, and then they
go out and own it night after night in front
of thousands of people who feel like these songs were
written just for them, because in a lot of ways
they were. This is a band that understands the assignment
(01:07):
on the record and on the stage. Today brothers Jack
and Ryan met of AJAR on an encore performance. They
talk about the journey from bedroom producers to headline acts
selling out venues across the globe. Let's go.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Taking a Walk.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Well, we have a special happening on the Taking a
Walk podcast. Jack and Ryan from AJAR.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Welcome, thanks so much for having us.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I complete the the met trifecta. Dr your bro on
a few months back and had a good time with him.
I think you're familiar with him, aren't you.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
We know him?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yeah, yeah, we run into him once in a while.
But we're going to talk about the new EP and
the Hollywood Bowl and the rest of the tour.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Amazing.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I'm want to ask you what no one's thinking. Hello.
But first before we get started, we like to ask
this question, since we call the podcast Taking a Walk.
If you could use your vivid imagination and you could
take a walk with somebody living or dead, who would
(02:18):
you take a walk with? Where would you take that
walk with him?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (02:26):
The first thing that popped into my mind was Steve Jobs,
probably because I know he'd like to take a lot
of walks.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
I think visionaries like that come once in a generation,
and he just his mind was so ahead of the curve.
He so had his finger on the pulse in terms
of what people enjoy, what people want to consume, the packaging,
how to present it to them, how to combine art
and commerce in the most elegant way.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Ever, I think a walk with him would be nice.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Do you think he'd be happy at the state of
the world, particularly when it comes to screen addiction and
things of that nature.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Probably not, Probably not.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
I think he was probably more about sort of innovation
and imagination than what Apple has become more recently.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
That's my guess.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
E're up, Oh me, sorry, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
You're good.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Our favorite my favorite band is a band called Fountains
of Wayne, and sadly the one of the members, Adam Slessinger,
was lost during COVID. He passed away and I never
got the chance to meet him, and absolutely my favorite
band of all time.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Really shaped the.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Way I, you know, enjoy music and write and shaped
a lot of our sound and I would have loved
to meet him.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I would definitely take a walk just to.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Let him know, you know, how appreciative I am and
get inside his his musical mind.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I'm so glad you brought him up because he was
one of many tragedies during the pandemic, and you can't
let you know any of them slip by, know, unless
the ones that touch us in particular, you know.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah, very much.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Yeah, Yeah, it's crazy that feeling of like because Brian
Wilson was another one of those like for us, he
passed away a month ago. I literally felt like a
family member passed away. It's so crazy, just the connection
you can have with someone that doesn't know about your existence.
That just I'm so connected to your feeling all the
same things that I'm feeling.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
It's kind of like you're my brother, your brother.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
By the way, do you have a guess who His
answer was on the taking a walk question?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Huh?
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Paul Simon bing got it as Wow, what.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Do you win? What's surprize?
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Walk with Simon? Paul Simon?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Not too bad? Yeah, I mean, and where you guys
are from and what you've experienced so much in New
York City. There's got to be thousands of places that
you love to walk in New York City.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean what's so great is that you
know we've lived here.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I've lived here thirty years.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Or so, and there's still just like thousands of places
we haven't been, and I'll be walking and be like,
this is a block I haven't been on before and
it's so small, but it's just so like rich with
you know, locations and places I haven't been, so we
really walk everywhere, honestly.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
So I got before we get to the new EP,
I've got a strange question to ask. What's the weirdest
sound or everyday object that you've ever sampled for an
ajar song? And how did it end up on the
final track? Who wants to take that one first?
Speaker 4 (06:00):
I'll take that, yeah, yeah, and now you have one
in mine, yeah, I think. Well, just to give a
little context, we do like to sample a lot of
kind of weird sounds. I think when you produce for
long enough, you get a little bit bored of the
same kind of snares and the and the uh kind
of online sound banks that are available to everybody, and
you start to realize, oh, here's how I make sounds
(06:21):
or drum sonic palettes that are actually unique to me
that nobody else has has used. You start like looking
for real things in your life and recontextualizing them. So
definitely a weird one that we we did was we
sampled the uh I guess. We we enlisted the guy
the voice of the New York City subway system, the
guy who goes stand clear of the closing doors please, uh.
(06:43):
We asked him to record the here we go on
bang and that really that was almost like a fun
collaboration more than a sample, because we we weren't sure
exactly what we wanted that sound to be. We got
our dad to record something that was like here we go,
and we got our neighbor to do like here we go.
Like we weren't quite sure what the affect was, and
(07:04):
as soon as he did it, it was like, oh,
there's like there's the alpha guy telling me here we go,
Like there's a there's a leader in the room right now.
So it really influenced the direction of the song. But
we've yeah, we've sampled like school bell like recess bells.
That's really fun to kind of when you're bringing in
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a chorus like kind of up top sonically above everything else,
just kind of catches your attention. I think there's something
subconscious going on When people listen, they're like, oh, time
for recess, I should I should listen little things like
that whistles, elephants sound, Yeah, we've sampled the elephants, horses.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Galloping, Yeah, a lot of animal stuff. I've done a lot.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Who influenced the the sampling of unique sounds in your
in your career?
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I think it's our love of movies. I think it
probably comes from that. It's very much when we write,
it's okay, who's our carrac or here? Often it is
like somewhere between me and Jack when we're writing, but
like what's our way in?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
That's sort of how to make it.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
I guess a more three dimensional song like Okay, this
is a love song, but it's from this like the
most insecure part of us or the most desperate part
of us, Like who's this character? And then in terms
of the sound effects, it sort of puts you there,
so like we're not just sampling an elephant randomly. Like
if we want to create the feeling of chaos, unhinged
(08:31):
beat start of the album, that's a place where I
want to tuck in an elephant because I'm just suddenly
in a movie where the zoo doors break open, then
the animals are running rampant around the city, the horse
galloping is like, here's a song about the inspiration of Okay,
I can make my life better.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
So that's where I'm hearing the boom the boom. The
boom like the galloping of a.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Horse very much ties into like where I want to
be in the movie?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
All right, Ryan first and then Jack favorite movie of
all time and why it just lives in infamy.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Mmm, I'm gonna go with You Could Take, So I'm
gonna go with Social Network.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
I think it's just it's the most rewatchable movie. The
dialogue just feels like candy. The character is so unlike
like Mark Zuckerberg is like so unlikable and likable at
the same time. The soundtrack's amazing. I just think it's
a perfect movie.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Maybe I'll go I mean, I've watched this movie a
million times. I've watched it recently again and it kind
of became my favorite. Maybe Hannah and Her Sisters the
Woody Allen movie. I think growing up in New York,
it just encapsulates New York perfectly.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
The characters are just so well thought out.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I think my favorite movies are the ones that when
they finish, I can just watch it again from the
beginning and that's probably the main one for me.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
And I just watched it the other night and we
had just gone through a whole Hey, what's our top
twenty or whatever, and then we were like, oh, wait,
we haven't watched Hannah and her Sisters in a while.
And I love it for all the reasons you just described.
It's love letter to New York and just the richness
of all the characters, so many classic scenes for sure.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah, definitely, So let's.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Talk about what no one's thinking. First of all, congratulations
on it. But it wasn't supposed to happen this year,
is that correct? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:34):
That is correct.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
This year was really supposed to be us only working
on this Broadway show that we're working on. And I
think there was this moment of like weirdness about not
writing something about like like.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Are we still able to do it?
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Almost almost like an anxiety, And I think I came
Tory and we were like, let's just try something. And
it started turning into the group of songs that at
first weren't so great that they were like the starts
of something. And then I think that even frustrated us further.
I'm like, wait, no, have we lost right?
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
And then there was a moment where we're like, we
should really kind of get into this a little bit.
And there was a moment where we realized, you know,
the last few years of our life and a little
trying for us, there's been like loss in our family
and career stuff and questions about relationships and all this stuff.
And sorry, our dog is kind of going wild in
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front of us right now.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
We encouraged dogs from paying a visit on taking a walk,
so do not worry. In fact, you didn't hear a
dog sound being sampled earlier. It was elm or barking
at another Amazon delivery or something.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Okay, I didn't hear it, but.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Yeah, what's your dog's name? First of all?
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Blue?
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Blue? All right, welcome Blue.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
We have blue and shape here.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Oh right, welcome. I see what they're up to.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
I know they're friendly.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Yeah, sorry, no, just.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
To finish what I was saying, Yeah, I think we
realized that there was a lot going on in our
life and we weren't really tapping into that. We were
maybe suppressing a little bit of it. And as soon
as we realized that, it all kind of came out
and we put all of that into the music.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
And we came up with five songs.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Was there, ever, still as you had embarked on the process,
still doubt that it wouldn't come together?
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah? Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
I think this new music, more than anything we've made before,
is like directly from our lives in a way. I'm
trying to think what's different about it. I think we're
just like really now just saying exactly what we feel
how we feel it almost like a diary entry for
whatever reason where we're at in our lives. That's feeling
(12:54):
like the most truthful thing I think in the past.
Obviously all of our songs come from true but we're
also balancing how do we make it catchy, how do
we have fun in the way that we say this
and maybe like use metaphors or whatever, and that's like
a totally valid type of songwriting. Just something about our
(13:15):
headspace now is like, if we're not saying exactly what
we feel the way we feel it, it's disingenuous. It's
not like it's it doesn't feel purposeful. And so I
think this EP was an extra challenge because we were like, Okay,
we're gonna write We have a song called a dog
song on this ep and it's from the point of
view of our dog, and that very much could go
(13:38):
in a terrible direction, in a gimmicky kind of like
here's things that dogs do. I laid down for a
nap or whatever. It could like turn into like a funny,
gimmicky song. But we were like, no, no, let's literally
demonstrate it exactly what our dog is watching us do
and see from his naive, innocent perspective all the stuff
(13:58):
that's happening in our life. And so I think stuff
like that is feeling really difficult to write, but very
rewarding to listen back.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
To take us behind the song Betty as well.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Yeah, that's another perfect example where me and Jack were
sitting on that track for what two years. Jack came
up with that melody of the chorus of the and
we were slowly chipping away at it over like the
course of two years. We were we were singing Benny
instead of Betty. We were going, Benny, I really hope
(14:34):
you like my style. And it was just nonsense, but
it was fun to say, and at a certain point
we were like, okay, let's stop just writing a song
that's just catching and just fun to say. What are
we feeling me and Jack like divulge tour to each
other like some stuff we were talking about in therapy
about like just like a fear of commitment in general,
(14:55):
like in in our lives, like how uncertain we are
about like what is the of our life look like,
whether it be a relationship or career or whatever. And
you realized, oh wait, we're both talking about this in
therapy every week, like of course we need to write
a song about this. And at that point we kind
of made the turn to Betty and I really hope
you're on. Here's like a realistic look at I think
(15:16):
how a lot of people our age feel, which is
like when you know you know, is not so obvious,
like there's a lot of other factors and it's not
a very sexy romantic way to think, but I think
it's just a more realistic way to think about committing
and love.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Talk about some of your other favorites, which I would
imagine would be every song on the EP, So let's
walk through it.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Yeah, what am I missing? I'm trying to think whatever?
Speaker 4 (15:46):
The Big Goodbye, Oh, the big a Bye, Yeah, the
Bigby We like that took what five years to make?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, just we had this sample in the beginning of
the song. Oh, this is another good one that we sampled.
There's a song called the Auctioneer. I think that's what
the original song is called. And it's this barbershop quartet
and in the beginning it's five hundred and twenty five.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Really give me that.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
It's, you know, an auctioneer doing his thing. And we
always thought that that was just like so percussive and
so interesting and I had never been done before, and
we always wanted to sample it, and Ryan just made
a beat for it and it turned into this like
great driving groove and we just had it forever. And
it's tough to start a song from that place because
it's so weird. It's like, where do you even go
(16:29):
from there? What kind of song is this going to be?
So it took us a really long time to do
and eventually we wrote a very like partyish song and
then tried another partyish song. Yeah, like a weird song,
and then eventually it landed on this sort of like
emotional story about someone saying goodbye to their hometown and
having mixed feelings about leaving.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I love that absolutely. I love the honesty and you know,
the tension of it as well, you know, hopefully put together.
Have you ever had a moment with this project or
any other project where there was complete disagreement on a
(17:11):
musical direction and then, if so, how did you resolve it?
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Hm?
Speaker 4 (17:18):
I feel like at this point we kind of know
what to trust each other for the answers. Yes, But
I think that if Jack comes to me and says,
I promise this melody is catchier than this melody, I'm
just going to trust him, like he just has the
ear for that. If I come to him and tell
him I promise this line is going to make people
(17:38):
cry and this line isn't and we're fighting over it,
He's going to trust me on that. So I think
probably the emotion is more of my forte and the catchiness,
but also the coolness of the song is more of
his forte. I'm not like, I don't, It's not how
my brain works of like is this cool? Are people
going to think this is cool? I just know like
(17:59):
I like it. It makes me feel something. And Jack's
a little more in tuned with like our kids are
age going to think this is or too broadway, ash
shed and weird.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
That makes sense, So I'm curious for a band that has,
you know, put its you know, stake down with sheer
independence in everything that you've done and the way that
you've done it. Do you ever worry that you're going
to lose that independent streak?
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Well, I think.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
We obviously like do a lot of almost everything ourselves
at this point, and it's been out of necessity, honestly,
Like we grew up, we didn't really know anybody in
the industry. We didn't really have money to go, you know,
pay someone to make a music video for us, so
we just needed to learn all of these skills. And
looking back, I'm really grateful that we did, like to
(18:55):
be able to to be self sustainable, I guess is
the word, and make all of the art yourself and
kind of have the vision to complete the whole thing
as a package, the artwork and the music videos and
even the social media, which is like a form of art,
I guess, the music and the tour. Like, I'm really
grateful that we, out of necessity, needed to develop all
(19:18):
those skills because I think fans sense it. I think
me as a consumer, I can kind of tell when
an artist got an outside treatment for a music video
and it's like them in the convertible car or whatever.
Like I can kind of feel that someone else wrote
this treatment for a music video for you, and this
didn't come from your POV. And so that's all I
(19:40):
want to see from artists is I won't feel connected
to you. I want to feel like we're having an
honest conversation. And so I think that's helped us to
have like a more honest conversation with the fans.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I mean, Jack, isn't it gratifying watching other artists take
the independent road?
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I think it's leading to kind of a good honest
place in music. And I'm glad that we were, you know,
have been doing it such a long time and we
could say we were one of the early ones on it.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
So how do you guys handle criticism differently compared to
maybe a couple of years back when you know, the
world was weird obviously at that time, but how do
you think you're handling of things like that has sort
of evolved and grown.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
I think it used to.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
We definitely get our fair share of criticism on the
internet and the bad reviews and insults and everything like that.
And I think we've always been a band that's like
either you love us or you hate us, really, and
there's never there's not hasn't been anything in between. It
bothered us when we were first starting out, honestly, as
it bothers everyone, and we couldn't help but check all
(20:54):
the comments and see what people have to say, and
you almost get like a weird addiction to it, you know,
to checking it. And over the years it's just felt
more like noise to us. I think we've come to
the realization that the things that people don't like about
us are the things that we love about us, the
things that we're really excited to do. In music, for instance,
(21:16):
you know the Bang sample, here we go. I could
imagine there's a lot of people that are going they sampled
the subway guy, and me and Ryan go, yeah, we sampled.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
The subway guy.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
So at that point, it's like, what's really it's it's
kind of a waste of time to listen when when
you have the security and confidence.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
In what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
But I also think the way you have built and
the way you treat your fan base gives you, you know,
extra leverage and fact of what you can do and
how you're going to approach things because you you guys
really respect your fans and and and and treat them
(21:56):
like gold. So I think that goes a long way
and process, don't you.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
I think so.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Yeah. I feel like when we tour, when we come
out on stage, there's just like an understanding like we're
all friends here, Like we design our show in a way,
like within the first four minutes, Jack's like making fun
of me on stage, like he's like roasting me and
brother band in a brothery way, and like, yeah, that's
(22:23):
basically just our personalities anyway. But it's also a little
bit by design of just like hey, we're we're in
a safe space here, Like I'm not taking anything seriously,
He's not taking it. We might roast you guys at
some point during the show, Like it's kind of this
subconscious thing that we like to establish of like we're
all friends here. We're dancing very weird on stage, feel
free for you guys to also dance very weird. None
(22:45):
of this is said out loud, but it's all just
kind of understood. And so I think that probably really helps.
If you feel like you're in a safe space surrounded
by people that you're already friends with, you could just
kind of like take big swings.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
So there's another milestone that's coming up. You've just you know,
finished a milestone in terms of the Madison Square Garden appearance,
which of course I know you don't take that lightly
at all. And then you've got this other one that
just sort of crept up, this little venue called the
Hollywood Bowl on October the fourth. Tell me how this
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feels and the immenseness of it to you.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Yeah, I mean, there's only a handful of venues I
think in the world that are like truly iconic, that
that are like household names, you know, if you will,
like Madison Square Garden, Red Rocks, and I'd say Hollywood
Bowl is absolutely up there. And I think it's one
of the last ones that we haven't we actually haven't
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seen any shows there before, funny enough, so we haven't
have not been, but obviously we've heard that it's a
magical place. So we're just nothing but excited to kind
of at this point. You know, it's really cool. We've
been doing this twenty years now of being a band
and to still have milestones so we can check off,
especially something so huge is really exciting.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
That is so cool now is Adam going to be
part of that?
Speaker 3 (24:13):
We can't disclose that he might he might pop in.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Okay, that's that's disclosing something, right, Yeah, that's exciting. That's
so great. Well, in closing, I want to ask you
which Ajar lyric best describes your current mindset? I go.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
We have a song called Karma that really holds like
a special place in my heart. It's it's always a
something that I related to. It's the chorus is I've
been so good. I've been helpful and friendly.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
I've been so good.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Why am I feeling empty? I've been so good this year.
I've been so good, but it's still getting harder. I've
been so good? Where the hell is the karma? I've
been so good this year? And I always feel like
that life is so up and down and you kind
of can't get out of your mind in terms of like,
if I am such a good person, why are things
still going poorly for me?
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Where is that karma? And it's a sort.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Of a part of maybe growing up trying to get
away from that, but it's difficult, So I always have
that on my mind.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
We have a line in or song turning Out Part
three that's don't overthink it. One day at a time, kid,
add up the days? No, no, one day. What's the
very end of it?
Speaker 3 (25:32):
You got someone who will and then love isn't big kid,
it's little quiet. Let's do today.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Let's do today. I think you'll turn out to like it.
I forgot my own lyric. It's very much like where
I'm at. It's like one day at a time, be here,
present right now.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Oh man, I'm so grateful that you guys took the
time to be on Taking a Walk. Congrats on what
No One's Thinking and the rest of the tour, including
the Holly with Bowl. My God, I'm so excited for
you guys, Jack and Ryan, thanks for being on Taking
a Walk.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Man, awesome, thanks for having us. This is great.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I'm Buzznight and thanks for listening to the Taking a
Walk podcast. Now, please check out our companion podcasts produced
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Taking a Walk concert season doesn't belong to just one generation,
and this month, on Taking a Walk, we're proving it. Buzznight,
your host, and welcome back to our live and legendary feature,
our April celebration of what happens when artists leave the
studio behind and take their music to the masses. Because
the road doesn't care how you got there, It only
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cares what you bring when the lights go up, and
today's guests bring everything. If you've been anywhere near a festival,
line up, a stadium stage, or honestly just a packed
arena full of people, people who know every single word,
you already know Ajar brothers Jack and Ryan met from Ajar.
They've built something genuinely rare in modern music, a sound
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that's completely their own, a fan base that is ferociously loyal,
and a live show that becomes a full blown shared experience.
They write it, produce it, perform it, and then they
go out and own it night after night in front
of thousands of people who feel like these songs were
written just for them, because in a lot of ways
they were. This is a band that understands the assignment
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on the record and on the stage. Today brothers Jack
and Ryan met of AJAR on an encore performance. They
talk about the journey from bedroom producers to headline acts
selling out venues across the globe. Let's go.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Taking a Walk.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Well, we have a special happening on the Taking a
Walk podcast. Jack and Ryan from AJAR.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Welcome, thanks so much for having us.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I complete the the met trifecta. Dr your bro on
a few months back and had a good time with him.
I think you're familiar with him, aren't you.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
We know him?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yeah, yeah, we run into him once in a while.
But we're going to talk about the new EP and
the Hollywood Bowl and the rest of the tour.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Amazing.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I'm want to ask you what no one's thinking. Hello.
But first before we get started, we like to ask
this question, since we call the podcast Taking a Walk.
If you could use your vivid imagination and you could
take a walk with somebody living or dead, who would
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you take a walk with? Where would you take that
walk with him?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (02:26):
The first thing that popped into my mind was Steve Jobs,
probably because I know he'd like to take a lot
of walks.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
I think visionaries like that come once in a generation,
and he just his mind was so ahead of the curve.
He so had his finger on the pulse in terms
of what people enjoy, what people want to consume, the packaging,
how to present it to them, how to combine art
and commerce in the most elegant way.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Ever, I think a walk with him would be nice.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Do you think he'd be happy at the state of
the world, particularly when it comes to screen addiction and
things of that nature.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Probably not, Probably not.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
I think he was probably more about sort of innovation
and imagination than what Apple has become more recently.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
That's my guess.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
E're up, Oh me, sorry, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
You're good.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Our favorite my favorite band is a band called Fountains
of Wayne, and sadly the one of the members, Adam Slessinger,
was lost during COVID. He passed away and I never
got the chance to meet him, and absolutely my favorite
band of all time.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Really shaped the.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Way I, you know, enjoy music and write and shaped
a lot of our sound and I would have loved
to meet him.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I would definitely take a walk just to.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Let him know, you know, how appreciative I am and
get inside his his musical mind.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I'm so glad you brought him up because he was
one of many tragedies during the pandemic, and you can't
let you know any of them slip by, know, unless
the ones that touch us in particular, you know.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah, very much.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Yeah, Yeah, it's crazy that feeling of like because Brian
Wilson was another one of those like for us, he
passed away a month ago. I literally felt like a
family member passed away. It's so crazy, just the connection
you can have with someone that doesn't know about your existence.
That just I'm so connected to your feeling all the
same things that I'm feeling.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
It's kind of like you're my brother, your brother.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
By the way, do you have a guess who His
answer was on the taking a walk question?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Huh?
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Paul Simon bing got it as Wow, what.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Do you win? What's surprize?
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Walk with Simon? Paul Simon?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Not too bad? Yeah, I mean, and where you guys
are from and what you've experienced so much in New
York City. There's got to be thousands of places that
you love to walk in New York City.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean what's so great is that you
know we've lived here.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I've lived here thirty years.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Or so, and there's still just like thousands of places
we haven't been, and I'll be walking and be like,
this is a block I haven't been on before and
it's so small, but it's just so like rich with
you know, locations and places I haven't been, so we
really walk everywhere, honestly.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
So I got before we get to the new EP,
I've got a strange question to ask. What's the weirdest
sound or everyday object that you've ever sampled for an
ajar song? And how did it end up on the
final track? Who wants to take that one first?
Speaker 4 (06:00):
I'll take that, yeah, yeah, and now you have one
in mine, yeah, I think. Well, just to give a
little context, we do like to sample a lot of
kind of weird sounds. I think when you produce for
long enough, you get a little bit bored of the
same kind of snares and the and the uh kind
of online sound banks that are available to everybody, and
you start to realize, oh, here's how I make sounds
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or drum sonic palettes that are actually unique to me
that nobody else has has used. You start like looking
for real things in your life and recontextualizing them. So
definitely a weird one that we we did was we
sampled the uh I guess. We we enlisted the guy
the voice of the New York City subway system, the
guy who goes stand clear of the closing doors please, uh.
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We asked him to record the here we go on
bang and that really that was almost like a fun
collaboration more than a sample, because we we weren't sure
exactly what we wanted that sound to be. We got
our dad to record something that was like here we go,
and we got our neighbor to do like here we go.
Like we weren't quite sure what the affect was, and
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as soon as he did it, it was like, oh,
there's like there's the alpha guy telling me here we go,
Like there's a there's a leader in the room right now.
So it really influenced the direction of the song. But
we've yeah, we've sampled like school bell like recess bells.
That's really fun to kind of when you're bringing in
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a chorus like kind of up top sonically above everything else,
just kind of catches your attention. I think there's something
subconscious going on When people listen, they're like, oh, time
for recess, I should I should listen little things like
that whistles, elephants sound, Yeah, we've sampled the elephants, horses.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Galloping, Yeah, a lot of animal stuff. I've done a lot.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Who influenced the the sampling of unique sounds in your
in your career?
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I think it's our love of movies. I think it
probably comes from that. It's very much when we write,
it's okay, who's our carrac or here? Often it is
like somewhere between me and Jack when we're writing, but
like what's our way in?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
That's sort of how to make it.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
I guess a more three dimensional song like Okay, this
is a love song, but it's from this like the
most insecure part of us or the most desperate part
of us, Like who's this character? And then in terms
of the sound effects, it sort of puts you there,
so like we're not just sampling an elephant randomly. Like
if we want to create the feeling of chaos, unhinged
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beat start of the album, that's a place where I
want to tuck in an elephant because I'm just suddenly
in a movie where the zoo doors break open, then
the animals are running rampant around the city, the horse
galloping is like, here's a song about the inspiration of Okay,
I can make my life better.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
So that's where I'm hearing the boom the boom. The
boom like the galloping of a.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Horse very much ties into like where I want to
be in the movie?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
All right, Ryan first and then Jack favorite movie of
all time and why it just lives in infamy.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Mmm, I'm gonna go with You Could Take, So I'm
gonna go with Social Network.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
I think it's just it's the most rewatchable movie. The
dialogue just feels like candy. The character is so unlike
like Mark Zuckerberg is like so unlikable and likable at
the same time. The soundtrack's amazing. I just think it's
a perfect movie.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Maybe I'll go I mean, I've watched this movie a
million times. I've watched it recently again and it kind
of became my favorite. Maybe Hannah and Her Sisters the
Woody Allen movie. I think growing up in New York,
it just encapsulates New York perfectly.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
The characters are just so well thought out.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I think my favorite movies are the ones that when
they finish, I can just watch it again from the
beginning and that's probably the main one for me.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
And I just watched it the other night and we
had just gone through a whole Hey, what's our top
twenty or whatever, and then we were like, oh, wait,
we haven't watched Hannah and her Sisters in a while.
And I love it for all the reasons you just described.
It's love letter to New York and just the richness
of all the characters, so many classic scenes for sure.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah, definitely, So let's.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Talk about what no one's thinking. First of all, congratulations
on it. But it wasn't supposed to happen this year,
is that correct? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:34):
That is correct.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
This year was really supposed to be us only working
on this Broadway show that we're working on. And I
think there was this moment of like weirdness about not
writing something about like like.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Are we still able to do it?
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Almost almost like an anxiety, And I think I came
Tory and we were like, let's just try something. And
it started turning into the group of songs that at
first weren't so great that they were like the starts
of something. And then I think that even frustrated us further.
I'm like, wait, no, have we lost right?
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
And then there was a moment where we're like, we
should really kind of get into this a little bit.
And there was a moment where we realized, you know,
the last few years of our life and a little
trying for us, there's been like loss in our family
and career stuff and questions about relationships and all this stuff.
And sorry, our dog is kind of going wild in
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front of us right now.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
We encouraged dogs from paying a visit on taking a walk,
so do not worry. In fact, you didn't hear a
dog sound being sampled earlier. It was elm or barking
at another Amazon delivery or something.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Okay, I didn't hear it, but.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Yeah, what's your dog's name? First of all?
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Blue?
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Blue? All right, welcome Blue.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
We have blue and shape here.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Oh right, welcome. I see what they're up to.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
I know they're friendly.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Yeah, sorry, no, just.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
To finish what I was saying, Yeah, I think we
realized that there was a lot going on in our
life and we weren't really tapping into that. We were
maybe suppressing a little bit of it. And as soon
as we realized that, it all kind of came out
and we put all of that into the music.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
And we came up with five songs.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Was there, ever, still as you had embarked on the process,
still doubt that it wouldn't come together?
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah? Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
I think this new music, more than anything we've made before,
is like directly from our lives in a way. I'm
trying to think what's different about it. I think we're
just like really now just saying exactly what we feel
how we feel it almost like a diary entry for
whatever reason where we're at in our lives. That's feeling
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like the most truthful thing I think in the past.
Obviously all of our songs come from true but we're
also balancing how do we make it catchy, how do
we have fun in the way that we say this
and maybe like use metaphors or whatever, and that's like
a totally valid type of songwriting. Just something about our
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headspace now is like, if we're not saying exactly what
we feel the way we feel it, it's disingenuous. It's
not like it's it doesn't feel purposeful. And so I
think this EP was an extra challenge because we were like, Okay,
we're gonna write We have a song called a dog
song on this ep and it's from the point of
view of our dog, and that very much could go
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in a terrible direction, in a gimmicky kind of like
here's things that dogs do. I laid down for a
nap or whatever. It could like turn into like a funny,
gimmicky song. But we were like, no, no, let's literally
demonstrate it exactly what our dog is watching us do
and see from his naive, innocent perspective all the stuff
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that's happening in our life. And so I think stuff
like that is feeling really difficult to write, but very
rewarding to listen back.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
To take us behind the song Betty as well.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Yeah, that's another perfect example where me and Jack were
sitting on that track for what two years. Jack came
up with that melody of the chorus of the and
we were slowly chipping away at it over like the
course of two years. We were we were singing Benny
instead of Betty. We were going, Benny, I really hope
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you like my style. And it was just nonsense, but
it was fun to say, and at a certain point
we were like, okay, let's stop just writing a song
that's just catching and just fun to say. What are
we feeling me and Jack like divulge tour to each
other like some stuff we were talking about in therapy
about like just like a fear of commitment in general,
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like in in our lives, like how uncertain we are
about like what is the of our life look like,
whether it be a relationship or career or whatever. And
you realized, oh wait, we're both talking about this in
therapy every week, like of course we need to write
a song about this. And at that point we kind
of made the turn to Betty and I really hope
you're on. Here's like a realistic look at I think
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how a lot of people our age feel, which is
like when you know you know, is not so obvious,
like there's a lot of other factors and it's not
a very sexy romantic way to think, but I think
it's just a more realistic way to think about committing
and love.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Talk about some of your other favorites, which I would
imagine would be every song on the EP, So let's
walk through it.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Yeah, what am I missing? I'm trying to think whatever?
Speaker 4 (15:46):
The Big Goodbye, Oh, the big a Bye, Yeah, the
Bigby We like that took what five years to make?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, just we had this sample in the beginning of
the song. Oh, this is another good one that we sampled.
There's a song called the Auctioneer. I think that's what
the original song is called. And it's this barbershop quartet
and in the beginning it's five hundred and twenty five.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Really give me that.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
It's, you know, an auctioneer doing his thing. And we
always thought that that was just like so percussive and
so interesting and I had never been done before, and
we always wanted to sample it, and Ryan just made
a beat for it and it turned into this like
great driving groove and we just had it forever. And
it's tough to start a song from that place because
it's so weird. It's like, where do you even go
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from there? What kind of song is this going to be?
So it took us a really long time to do
and eventually we wrote a very like partyish song and
then tried another partyish song. Yeah, like a weird song,
and then eventually it landed on this sort of like
emotional story about someone saying goodbye to their hometown and
having mixed feelings about leaving.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I love that absolutely. I love the honesty and you know,
the tension of it as well, you know, hopefully put together.
Have you ever had a moment with this project or
any other project where there was complete disagreement on a
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musical direction and then, if so, how did you resolve it?
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Hm?
Speaker 4 (17:18):
I feel like at this point we kind of know
what to trust each other for the answers. Yes, But
I think that if Jack comes to me and says,
I promise this melody is catchier than this melody, I'm
just going to trust him, like he just has the
ear for that. If I come to him and tell
him I promise this line is going to make people
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cry and this line isn't and we're fighting over it,
He's going to trust me on that. So I think
probably the emotion is more of my forte and the catchiness,
but also the coolness of the song is more of
his forte. I'm not like, I don't, It's not how
my brain works of like is this cool? Are people
going to think this is cool? I just know like
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I like it. It makes me feel something. And Jack's
a little more in tuned with like our kids are
age going to think this is or too broadway, ash
shed and weird.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
That makes sense, So I'm curious for a band that has,
you know, put its you know, stake down with sheer
independence in everything that you've done and the way that
you've done it. Do you ever worry that you're going
to lose that independent streak?
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Well, I think.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
We obviously like do a lot of almost everything ourselves
at this point, and it's been out of necessity, honestly,
Like we grew up, we didn't really know anybody in
the industry. We didn't really have money to go, you know,
pay someone to make a music video for us, so
we just needed to learn all of these skills. And
looking back, I'm really grateful that we did, like to
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be able to to be self sustainable, I guess is
the word, and make all of the art yourself and
kind of have the vision to complete the whole thing
as a package, the artwork and the music videos and
even the social media, which is like a form of art,
I guess, the music and the tour. Like, I'm really
grateful that we, out of necessity, needed to develop all
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those skills because I think fans sense it. I think
me as a consumer, I can kind of tell when
an artist got an outside treatment for a music video
and it's like them in the convertible car or whatever.
Like I can kind of feel that someone else wrote
this treatment for a music video for you, and this
didn't come from your POV. And so that's all I
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want to see from artists is I won't feel connected
to you. I want to feel like we're having an
honest conversation. And so I think that's helped us to
have like a more honest conversation with the fans.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I mean, Jack, isn't it gratifying watching other artists take
the independent road?
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I think it's leading to kind of a good honest
place in music. And I'm glad that we were, you know,
have been doing it such a long time and we
could say we were one of the early ones on it.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
So how do you guys handle criticism differently compared to
maybe a couple of years back when you know, the
world was weird obviously at that time, but how do
you think you're handling of things like that has sort
of evolved and grown.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
I think it used to.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
We definitely get our fair share of criticism on the
internet and the bad reviews and insults and everything like that.
And I think we've always been a band that's like
either you love us or you hate us, really, and
there's never there's not hasn't been anything in between. It
bothered us when we were first starting out, honestly, as
it bothers everyone, and we couldn't help but check all
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the comments and see what people have to say, and
you almost get like a weird addiction to it, you know,
to checking it. And over the years it's just felt
more like noise to us. I think we've come to
the realization that the things that people don't like about
us are the things that we love about us, the
things that we're really excited to do. In music, for instance,
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you know the Bang sample, here we go. I could
imagine there's a lot of people that are going they sampled
the subway guy, and me and Ryan go, yeah, we sampled.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
The subway guy.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
So at that point, it's like, what's really it's it's
kind of a waste of time to listen when when
you have the security and confidence.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
In what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
But I also think the way you have built and
the way you treat your fan base gives you, you know,
extra leverage and fact of what you can do and
how you're going to approach things because you you guys
really respect your fans and and and and treat them
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like gold. So I think that goes a long way
and process, don't you.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
I think so.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Yeah. I feel like when we tour, when we come
out on stage, there's just like an understanding like we're
all friends here, Like we design our show in a way,
like within the first four minutes, Jack's like making fun
of me on stage, like he's like roasting me and
brother band in a brothery way, and like, yeah, that's
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basically just our personalities anyway. But it's also a little
bit by design of just like hey, we're we're in
a safe space here, Like I'm not taking anything seriously,
He's not taking it. We might roast you guys at
some point during the show, Like it's kind of this
subconscious thing that we like to establish of like we're
all friends here. We're dancing very weird on stage, feel
free for you guys to also dance very weird. None
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of this is said out loud, but it's all just
kind of understood. And so I think that probably really helps.
If you feel like you're in a safe space surrounded
by people that you're already friends with, you could just
kind of like take big swings.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
So there's another milestone that's coming up. You've just you know,
finished a milestone in terms of the Madison Square Garden appearance,
which of course I know you don't take that lightly
at all. And then you've got this other one that
just sort of crept up, this little venue called the
Hollywood Bowl on October the fourth. Tell me how this
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feels and the immenseness of it to you.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Yeah, I mean, there's only a handful of venues I
think in the world that are like truly iconic, that
that are like household names, you know, if you will,
like Madison Square Garden, Red Rocks, and I'd say Hollywood
Bowl is absolutely up there. And I think it's one
of the last ones that we haven't we actually haven't
(23:48):
seen any shows there before, funny enough, so we haven't
have not been, but obviously we've heard that it's a
magical place. So we're just nothing but excited to kind
of at this point. You know, it's really cool. We've
been doing this twenty years now of being a band
and to still have milestones so we can check off,
especially something so huge is really exciting.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
That is so cool now is Adam going to be
part of that?
Speaker 3 (24:13):
We can't disclose that he might he might pop in.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Okay, that's that's disclosing something, right, Yeah, that's exciting. That's
so great. Well, in closing, I want to ask you
which Ajar lyric best describes your current mindset? I go.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
We have a song called Karma that really holds like
a special place in my heart. It's it's always a
something that I related to. It's the chorus is I've
been so good. I've been helpful and friendly.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
I've been so good.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Why am I feeling empty? I've been so good this year.
I've been so good, but it's still getting harder. I've
been so good? Where the hell is the karma? I've
been so good this year? And I always feel like
that life is so up and down and you kind
of can't get out of your mind in terms of like,
if I am such a good person, why are things
still going poorly for me?
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Where is that karma? And it's a sort.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Of a part of maybe growing up trying to get
away from that, but it's difficult, So I always have
that on my mind.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
We have a line in or song turning Out Part
three that's don't overthink it. One day at a time, kid,
add up the days? No, no, one day. What's the
very end of it?
Speaker 3 (25:32):
You got someone who will and then love isn't big kid,
it's little quiet. Let's do today.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Let's do today. I think you'll turn out to like it.
I forgot my own lyric. It's very much like where
I'm at. It's like one day at a time, be here,
present right now.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Oh man, I'm so grateful that you guys took the
time to be on Taking a Walk. Congrats on what
No One's Thinking and the rest of the tour, including
the Holly with Bowl. My God, I'm so excited for
you guys, Jack and Ryan, thanks for being on Taking
a Walk.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Man, awesome, thanks for having us. This is great.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I'm Buzznight and thanks for listening to the Taking a
Walk podcast. Now, please check out our companion podcasts produced
by Buzznight Media Productions with your host Lynn Hoffman music
Save Me showcasing the healing power of music and comedy
Save Me shining a light on how laughter is the
best medicine. All shows are available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify
(26:36):
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