D'Arcy Carden

This week on Thanks Dad, Ego sat down with actress extraordinaire who we know & love from The Good Place, Barry & A League of Their Own, D'Arcy Carden! To start, D'Arcy thanks the man who complimented her amazing parking skills, along with her friends, Jesse & Katie, for bringing her a cinnamon roll. Friendship! The two actors chat about shared Actress experiences #actortalk, bringing back the house hang, and staying in a Potato vacation rental for her upcoming HGTV Show with Sherry Cola. D'Arcy shares her audition story for The Good Place for her role of Janet. Finally, Ego & D'Arcy give advice to a lucky listener on how to respectfully leave a conversation you have no interest in having.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
M. Darcy. I'm so happy you're here. I'm so happy
you have to read your intro newscaster. You know my
next guest from the Good Place, Barry, a league of
their own and the upcoming Sunny Nights on Hulu. It's
Darcy Cardon. By the way, that's short list. It's giving

(00:26):
short list because your resume, it just keeps going. It's yours. No, Darcy, Darcy,
mine don't go like yours.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Well, you had, you would practically a decade at one
place did work. You know that's gonna shorten it. But
it's no place.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Yes, it's the it's the place, Darcy. I'm so happy
you're here here. Thank you for doing this in honor.
And I kind of like our kind of matching get ups.
I had sambas to put on my feet, but I
I I thought we shouldn't with black or black with white,
black with.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
White almost were those?

Speaker 3 (01:00):
So?

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Are we the same cod they kind of are? Maybe
I feel connected to you already. What's happening?

Speaker 2 (01:06):
I see how good your nails look are their little hearts.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Their little hearts me day for V Day. I'm usually
never this person. Should we do a close up? Don't
do it? Somebody told me that the way I show
my nails on FaceTime is wrong, because I go, do
you see my nail little claws? Do you see my
little shrimpies? I suppose to everyone does this, that's true.
I go, see see my nails.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
I just got a manicure. And it was a manicure
that like, it was very tender and loving, if this
makes sense. Like the woman that gave it to me,
I was like I loved her and she was sweet
and it was like a good experience. And this was
on Saturday, and today is what Wednesday? Yes, like most
of the polishes has popped off exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
I will tell you when I was gonna say, gentle manicure. Yeah, yeah,
I hear. That's how I feel about it, gentle manicure.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
She put on the polish too gently, and then maybe
all of my little like what do you call these
cute cut holes are now they're kind of like for
fraggedy ragged.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Again as though you didn't go on side, but I
do love her. You went for the vibe. Yeah yeah, sweet,
lady's sweet? Who or what do you want to say
thanks to? Before we dive deep?

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Okay, now here's the thing I had something okay, and
then something happened.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Just isn't that crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
I'm like this, I want to say thank you to
this person.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Okay, what is there a world in what you say
thanks to the person? And then I also want to
know what you were gonna say thanks because there's no
real rules.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
That's right, okay, because what if the rule was to
think two different situations, it could have been yes, okay.
So as I was parking, I had to do something.
I was in the valet downstairs, and the guy sort
of he was busy, right, so he kind of did
this thing where he did like a like a hand
motion like do this with that, and I was like, fuck,

(02:52):
I hope I get this right. So it was like
it was like a tight squeeze to kind of go
forward and then reverse into the spot. Okay, okay, and
then I you know, that was that. That was the exchange.
And then I walked around the corner and a guy
who was driving out of the parking lot said that
was some really good parking open his window and shouted

(03:13):
it out the window, and I was like, damn, I
really needed that because I felt like I had done
a good job and I was just sort of like,
I guess I've been thinking about parking earlier.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Do you get anxious about parking? Not anxious?

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Okay, no, My thought is it's so cocky. My thought
is like I can park anywhere.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
I know that's right. I can park anywhere, any space,
but it is it's like a thankless, thankless to be
able to park. I do. I do pride myself in parking.
My ability to park too. I'm a good I reverse
into all spots. Yes, I love that because it's easy
because when you're ready to go, you just get to
go with it. It's so worthy. I love taking the

(03:50):
extra time I'm with you, and anytime I'm driving someone
who is riding with me for the first time, because
I've lived in New York for so long now, some
people have not ridden with me. And I'm kind of
like internally like watch this. I watch what I'm do something,
and I'm gonna say, nine times out of ten they comment,
and if they don't, I try to act like it wasn't.
You know, it's not fishing for it, but shout out

(04:11):
to that man. Because also the people who watch people
while they parallel part I think deserve the chair.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Oh my god, I'm so with you and also like
giving you, giving you instruction unless you're really need it, Yes,
but I'm like, you're making it worse. Are you doing
this or whatever you're doing?

Speaker 1 (04:28):
You have an audience.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Literally don't need to look at you. You're the wrong person.
I'm trying to look at the goddamn street.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yes, in the curb, yeah, the curb and the person.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
I mean, yeah, so sorry to be this person, but
it's always a man.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
I mean, you're this person. You imagine. Have you ever
seen a woman just watching someone parallel? Part? Now, I
don't think I have not time.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
It doesn't exist.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
And the person who complimented you was a man, right,
that's true. So he has cleansed the all really totally.
He's cleared there, He's cleared their slate. And I feel like,
so long as neither of us go into the world
and encounter another man watching us far for the rest
of our lives are toned for of the men. Okay,
well done, I want to give it. Can we please

(05:15):
give it up? And even come on, Yeah, this is
an crowd, This is an active crowd. I beg them
to make noise.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
I'm gonna be like this unless I drink.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Okay, I'm good because you don't want to hear the
slip slip stops in the in the podcast. People are
watching podcasts now, Darce, Well that's how do you feel
about an on camera podcast? Be real? The real?

Speaker 2 (05:36):
I mean, okay, okay. It has changed so fast, the landscape,
the landscape. It really has as someone as someone's as
two people who are on podcasts for years and who
have their own podcasts. In the last couple of years,
it has changed so dramatically, so quickly. When I first

(05:58):
started doing a podcast, I did one year of a
podcast and in the beginning of the year. Okay, so
when we were like doing the I don't know, it
sounds so businessy to say deal, but when we were
figuring it out, the producers really wanted it to be
on camera, and I was like, absolutely not, yeah it is.
It's like a podcast is for your ears. I felt

(06:19):
so strongly about it. And in that year that I
had the podcast, like every single podcast became video. I
was like, I was like goodbye, like just swept out
to see. I like it better now because I think
I'm getting used to it and I'm like, I know
this is video, so I put on a little mascaraide
you know what I mean. I wore a little bracelet.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
I love the bracelet and those diamonds.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
But can I tell me if you ever do this?

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Okay, tell me.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Okay, you know when you go to an Okay, it
is still here. This is this is strictly for basically actresses.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
You know when you go to an event and your
stylist styles you, and she gives you all this jewelry
and you have like a couple of days before they
pick it up again.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yes, yes, you're you're in the in between space fun.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Okay, Yes, I know she's gonna probably pick it up
to night or to morrow.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
So I'm just kidding, don't wearing See, I'm too scared.
I'm scared. I'm like, someone's gonna rob me in this moment.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
But then you can also be like, I I lost
it at the Emmys or wherever you yes, and then
they'll be like, well that happens.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah, because there is insurance, I discovered.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah, better than being like I lost it on the
way to a podcast.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah, yeah, I lost it at the Emmys. I mean
winning podcasts. It's not, but we might. You never know.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Okay. So all that is to say, I'm I guess
I'm except Okay, here's the other truth about about watching podcasts.
I'm saying on a podcast that I've watched, please with
people that do podcasts that people can watch. And this
is sort of like admitting my maybe like like old ladiness,

(07:56):
but I listen. I consume so much less podcast now
because I'm always like, oh I should watch this, Wow,
I should like watch Okay.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
I won't.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
I won't listen to it on my walk or on
my drive all way, this one's good. I'm gonna wait
until I get home and watch it, and then I
like so rarely do yes.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Well, that's the thing. I mean, I'm fascinated. I'm not
mad at it. I'm so I'd love to hear more
from the avid video watchers of podcasts, because I'm like,
you're just you're you're watching a conversation happen. Like it's
like if you and I decided to go to coffee
right now, right like, would someone want to like properly
watch it? It's really interesting?

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Then don't you feel like if you're not watching it,
you're missing some joke or facial expression or something.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
And but I'm okay with it. Yeah, I'm okay. I'm
missing things like genuinely I listen to podcasts when I'm
in the shower. Can't do driving, can't like, oh, can't
my attend, I can't do the math. My brain can't comeing.
You need music, I need music or phone calls.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
I can totally do I do podcast driving or walking okay,
yeah okay. Or if I'm like again, actress talk. But
if I'm like on, let's say, how do.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
You start a podcast called actress? Actress? For sure?

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Like you know how something as you're in a hotel
for could be months on end, and I get a
little like stir crazy, and then it's like the second
I wake up, I put a podcast on to be
like my friend. I need to hear.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Okay, so this is important, this is huge. I am like, okay, technology,
it's changing the world. Blah blah blah blah blah, it's coming,
it's happening fast. The podcast to be your Friend is
such a thing because I have felt that often with
podcasts I listen to, I will put it on being

(09:40):
like none of my friends are available to talk, and
so like I'll put on a podcast. It feels like
friends are over. And then I judge myself and I'm like,
this is weird. Yeah, this is that thing. This is
like one step removed from the movie Her where I'm like,
oh my god, totally yeah, and then I get weird
about it. But I was like, yeah, exactly, but you're
making me feel better because it is low key. In

(10:01):
getting ready, I listen to podcasts getting Ready, I'm like,
it's the thing I do. I'm like, first thing, and
it's like just so it feels like someone's here with me.
I get.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
I'm like trying to I'm trying to justify it. Maybe
I'm trying to actually do like the I think it's okay,
but why why?

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Why?

Speaker 2 (10:16):
Why is it okay?

Speaker 1 (10:17):
It's like.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
If you woke up and listened to like like I'm
trying to like rationalize it for like olden times. I'm like,
would you wake up and your elders would tell you
a story to story?

Speaker 1 (10:34):
I know, but also too, I think sometimes when we're
trying to be like what does this look like in
olden times? That makes this then okay? It's sort of
like but we've got some things right over here, yes, side,
I feel the need to justify things being like, yeah,
but before it was like this and now this is
just that version of it. And I'm like, but we
have improved some things. Yeah, and we don't give ourselves

(10:55):
enough credit.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
You're so right, especially lately, we're down on ourselves. Yes,
and I'm down on ourselves, but we are down on
ourselves and.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
It's not We've got to do something about that. I'm
thinking we need to. Maybe. I think part of the
problem is not celebrating ourselves and not I think you.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Might be right, or maybe the wrong people are celebrating
them I think that's it.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
That's it, and that's gonna be the title of the episode.
The wrong people are celebrating themselves. We figured it out.
I cut you off before and talking about the first
the thing you were originally gonna say. Thanks. Oh, by
the way, you didn't cut me out, Okay, I didn't, Okay,
thank you, Okay.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
The other thing was just like just two sweet friends.
Should I say their names, I'll say, I'll say and Katie, Yes,
I was just like having a little blue day the
other day and they brought me over like a cinnamon roll,
you know.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
What I mean, Just like a sweet move, very very sweet.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Like, also I think I don't know, I think, Okay,
going back to old lady talking about phone and stuff.
Because we're so connected on our phone, it's so easy
to I mean, I'm about say I'm guilty of this.
It's like not even guilty. It's like what I do
with my friends is I'm like thinking of you, text, text, text,
how are you doing? Do you want to hop on
the phone? Things like that. But the idea of going

(12:09):
to someone's house and like leaving them a thing. We're
here if you want to talk, but no pressure, Like
that type of move is I feel like rare and
so sweet and I really really kind of moved me.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
That is very sweet and that does feel there's I've
been saying, let's bring back house hangs. Yes, I'm like
that feels so much better than what's so And I
love going out to dinner.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
No, but I'm there, but I'm.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Like, come to the house. I love and we don't
have to do anything. You could just be at my
house and we're kicking it and talking and it's easy.
And so that gesture is so meaningful to me.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Okay, let's talk about this for a second. Yes, because Okay,
I feel like I let.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
You want to talk about the mic. Let's talk abou
there's dust.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Can we talk about this micro like the I've been
thinking about this and even talking about it with friends,
this thing of like HOUSEHANNG, couch friends, TV friends. As
we get older, it's all about the dinner or the
bar or whatever. The restaurant hang, which I love. I

(13:10):
live for a restaurant hang, but the couch hang and
the house hang has become like I guess maybe the
older you get, the less you do that, and the
some of my you know, you think of some of
your closest friends and you're like, oh, they don't We're
not like could I sit on the couch and just
chill with them? And I mean I think, like when

(13:32):
I think of my closest friends, I'm like one hundred percent,
But I don't know because your relationships, your friendships were
only that when you were a kid or when you
were a teenager in college.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Also SNL is funny because you have that your dressing room.
I'm sure my couch was.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Like, come hang in my restroom, coming, We're hanging your dress.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
That's it's so intimate, yes, and it's so like I
I think I'm gonna like actively kind of push for
that in my life more because I'm that.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, and also there, yeah, there's like you say, something
more intimate about it, and it's so telling even in
like relationship romantic being able to be like we are
unstimulated here by all intents and purposes and it's fine. Yeah,
it's cool and no one has to be talking. And
that's I feel like such a sign of comfort and

(14:20):
connection and I want more of it. And like you said,
love a restaurant, Hey, I always I love to try
new restaurants. But when people come over and someone does
something like that, like I'm just dropping this off at
your house, it's so loving and it's why does it
feel it feels so vintage? It really it just another era,
but it's.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Just dropping a little like a little loaf on.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Your on your door. I mean, I have I just
kind I pseudo moved into my house. I'm not quite there,
but somebody my thing is like Fort Knox because I
have a gate that I keep locked because because people
kept coming up to my door and I was like yeah,
and so so I'm I'm like, no, you can't just

(15:03):
come to my door, neighbors. But they didn't not to
introduce themselves. It was it was always weird, and I
was like, I don't this is where's the pie? You
can do this if you bring pie, bring me something,
or you can just say hi. I just wanted to
introduce myself. I guess that's fine, but it's it's very like, wait,
what I need to enter my enter my fort, knock

(15:25):
gate and let yourself in. And so now I had
Jimmy Falley come to my house and he did send
me a text the other day being like I did
send him the thinking of you text. Yeah, and he
sent me a text back being like, I'm thinking of
your house and the moat and the guard around and
wishing I had one. And the fact that there's no
doorbell out there, is that true? Yeah, there's a defunked doorbell.

(15:49):
The real doorbells like once I've let you in. It's
really stupid. We need to fix it. But there's a
doorbell once I've let you in the gate. But I'm like,
if I've let you in the gate, I know that's true, but.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
I don't though. I kind of liked that the dormall
don't work. So basically, okay, so someone coming to your house.
You have to know they're coming, they have to have
your phone number. I mean, there's a lot about this
that I like because that means like, no, wait, the
word isn't loiter. What's the word. What is the word?

Speaker 1 (16:15):
What's the word? Guys? We need a fact check.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
What's the word when someone solicitor.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Solicitors loiters hanging around? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Yes, is there ever a sign that is like no loitering? Yes,
but that doesn't mean come to that that I've seen
no loyder private property. So basically, don't come and hang
out of it. But I don't want someone just being like, hey,
we're we're selling.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
I mean anything. Yeah, you literally cannot sign it because
it was always weird the coming so now and it's
kind of annoying. I'm like, lock the gate behind me
and then like walk up the into the house and
I'm like, but I like it. I do. I do
like that.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Anything that makes you feel safe, I like.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Thank you. Yeah, that is a true friend, you a
real one. I want word.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
I'm sorry, I'm I want off off. Mic and Camra
want to know like where and how and okay, yeah, okay,
because I know it's such a project.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
It is a project, the renovation, the renovation Nation. It's something. Yeah,
it's it's really something. Wait, Darcy, you're from the Bay Area.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yes, yes, I'm from the Bay Area.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
And for the people listening only, that is dark. The
sound of a Larcy wiping the arm of the mic, just.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
Doing a little a little dust called that it's dust, dusty, mine's.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Dust, the dust just calling mine is dust? Tea us
the tea is that it's dust.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
I'm from the Bay Area. I'm from a town called Danville,
which is like right next to Walnut Creek or this.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
I know the area code off the top of my day.
Is that right? Yeah, I'm weird. I know area codes.
I can say it right. Yes, you don't feel uncomfortable
because it's a whole area code. It's not nine to five.
I just know area code. Why do you know that
it's very weird? I don't know. It's a useless skill.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
You know what's funny about nine two five? Is it?
How does this even make sense? When I was a kid,
a kid kid, it was four one five, okay, and
then Francis San Francisco, Yeah, and then it became five
to one, oh, which I think is maybe why do
I know this Baltimore?

Speaker 1 (18:19):
This is this is, this is we're going.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
I mean, I love this, I love that. And then
it became nine to five, which I'm like, what does
that mean? Does that mean over the course of my life?
Did like the Bearrier? Did the Barrier get so many
more people?

Speaker 1 (18:37):
I think they got too many people like that it needed.
It's like, well, we run, we run out of numbers.
I don't know people sharing phone numbers. How do you
feel about your phone number you shared? About your permission,
your express permission. I kind of am like, huh exactly.
I mean I guess it depends on who it's with.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
But I am like, okay, you you put us all
on a text chain together.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
That's it totally different.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
If it's like, oh my god, I can't believe we
don't have each other's numbers or whatever. But if it
is like introducing you to so and so or what,
I'm like, I don't know, I don't know got your
number from so and see.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
I feel like, okay, can I tell you? Okay?

Speaker 2 (19:13):
It makes me feel like I need a fort knock.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yes, a fort Knox. I feel like, and I love
you and allow me that you do know. But no
one wants to seem like an asshole. So it's like, oh,
it's just a little weird, but it's weird. I'm sorry,
full stop. You sorry, right, it's weird. You should ask people. Yeah,
I'm already wanted a rant about this, but it's the
weirdest thing. Where's the decora?

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Totally right? Someone sharing your number, you have to ask.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yeah, it's not mob and it's probably a yes, but ask.
It's not public, it's not public knowledge for a reason.
I'd say this at any stage in my life. Yes,
I'd say to any stage in my life at the
disks to me and you is, I'm like, I don't care, no, no, no,
I like that you get. I'm like, could be name
my favorite artist? Why did you get? Who was out

(20:00):
the world? Just loose giving my number out all of.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
A sudden, like racking my brains for if I've ever
done that, I'm sure I have, But I think I'm
pretty safe or like like protect ye. And I think
even if the person is like, hey, do you mind
giving me so and So's number, even before I would respond.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
I would go to that person, that's what you got
to do. Yeah, that's what you got to Darcy. But
we're talking about all my high level life things right now,
and I'm here to talk about you girl. Six inches
six inches? Oh good. That's who taught you that you're
you're producer?

Speaker 2 (20:31):
It's on some podcast. Is that even six inches?

Speaker 1 (20:33):
I don't know. It's like that big hand six Oh
this this maybe it's this.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Remember this move when you're a little kid like I do.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
Those are stupid. They are dumb as hell. I was one.
It's great. One beIN one. Okay. You were in the
Bay Area. You moved to LA Did you have you
done any other city?

Speaker 2 (20:51):
I from yeah, half, here's what it was mean, Bay Area.
Went to school in Ashland, Oregon. Okay, so that's four years.
Moved directly to New York City, lived there for eleven
years my whole twenties, and then moved here.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
When you moved from Oregon to New York were the
people you went to college with? Like?

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Whoa Darcy is taking a leap somewhere? A couple gals
moved with, like to all move together? Well, one of
them did. Summer Day Ross.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Summer Day Ross, Okay, the same day. Beautiful name, beautiful name.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Beautiful girl, beautiful dancer.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
Beautiful girl, beautiful friend.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
So we moved out to New York together, but there
were a couple other people from our school that lived there.
But yeah, I think Oregon to New York was a
big move. But I sort of I in high school,
I was like dead set on going to college in
New York, like, no question, That's where I was going
to go. And then when it became time to like
when do you submit for college senior year?

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Right, I think no, like you have to apply God
your hour. Yes.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
But around that time, all of a sudden, it was
like something switch and I got so like preemptively homesick.
I was like, it's too far, It's wow. And so
I don't know what that was. It was like I
was braver the younger I was.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
So then I my organ Ashland, Oregon Southern Oregon University.
University has like a great acting program in Shakespeare. It's
like it's like a Shakespeare town, okay, And we had
gone there a few times in high school and it
was just like it was it was the like you
know when you kind of go Was that the right choice?
I don't know moving to New York? What did I
miss out on?

Speaker 1 (22:33):
Blah?

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Blah blah. I'm like it was great. It was the
right choice. I didn't want to stay there longer than
I did, but it was like perfect and a great education.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Okay, see I love that. I mean, you're like, was
that good? Did you buy it? Do I do? I
believe that that sounds well. I wonder do you have
siblings A bunch many one older, too younger? Okay, then
I have a bunch as well, Yes, exactly, but I'm

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the baby.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Gotta love me, good job.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Do you know that? You know?

Speaker 2 (23:08):
And the I'm the second.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Okay, only one in entertainment, are you well?

Speaker 2 (23:13):
No, my brother is an editor, so that that's like
he's not on stage. Yeah, okay, my brother edits animated
movies and TV shows.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
Oh cool, I think that is very cool.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Wow, I know yeah. I And then like my dad
is a music guy, so he was like always playing
in bands and stuff and would would dabble in in acting.
Was it would dabble in like plays like community theaters?

Speaker 1 (23:40):
So fun? Were you excited about that as a youth friend?

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Okay, totally, I think it inspired. I was like, dad
can do it, I can do it, you know, like, like, uh,
I remember seeing him in a play and like a
church play and going I want to say backstage, but
that just means behind the church, I guess, and like right,
and like watching them all kind of like like put

(24:04):
on their little makeup and like you know, say like
got your back or whatever. And I was like I
was in awe. I was just like I would go.
I don't think my other siblings would come to the
play every night. I would like go to the play
every night and watch it, and I would I have
the kind of brain or like imagination where I'm like
all consumed with it, you know. So it's I'm like

(24:27):
going to a play. It still is like this.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
Or a movie.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
I like can't think of anything else but what I'm watching.
I'm like a little kid, like my brain over overactive
or I don't know what it is. I don't know
what it is. But it was definitely like that where
I was like sitting on the edge of my pew,
you know. And and then anyway, so that was a
little taste of like I want to do this.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
So then when you were like I want to then
presumably study theater in college. Your parents were supportive.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
They were supportive, they were It's so funny, like my
dad not at all like a rewriting of history, but
his memo, you know, you only know what they presented
you with. So my dad is like, now, he's like,
there were times where I tried to kind of get
you away from it, but I'm so glad you didn't.
But and I was like, oh, I never felt that oblivious,

(25:21):
So I think so I think I was like I was,
so I know you you wanted to study medicine, right.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
I did study biology. I did. I didn't want you did,
but I did study biology.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
So I never had that. I never had like another
like if this doesn't work, or even like oh maybe
I'm better at this. It was just like, once I
realized you could do this as a job, I did.
I just couldn't think of anything else. So I was
They were supportive and nervous, but supportive.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Okay, yeah, that's very cool. And then to go to
Southern Oregon University from there to New York, and you
said this thing about not sure if maybe you should
have gone straight to New York, but that might have
afforded you. I interestedly have that sometimes about I went
to USC because I wanted to be an actor. But
I was studying biology. Whole family thing. I've said it
a billion times. I shan't bore you. Well, what if

(26:13):
sounds listening for the first time.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Google Google one interview.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
You just get tired of talking about yourself and like
you want to hear this fun, interesting thing about me.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
That's especially for the listeners.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Million times I'm like, guys, I'm sorry, but if you
don't know, google it, which is cocky way you'll find it.
I've just said it so much. But I did study biology.
But I went to college here in LA and I
after all is said and done, I mean, I'm still
alive after college at the end of my day. But

(26:46):
I was like, I don't know if I needed to
go to LA for college. Maybe my college could have
been somewhere else. I just thought I need to get
to where the acting happens. Even though I did none
of it.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
I felt the same way. I feel like. I think
it was that I didn't but I am I. While
I was in Oregon, I was sort of like they're
passing me by, you know, or like like I always
have had do you have this or did you have this?
Or do you still have this? Like do you I

(27:15):
would as a kid, knowing that I wanted to be
an actor. I would like compare my life to kids
on TV and I'd be like, wow, they're already on TV.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Well, yes, yes, I've had I had had that. Yes,
I'm like the Disney dreams are right, so I guess
that's not happen. I'm auditioning for us and because I'm
not going to be a Disney kid totally.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
So there were there were enough like things like I
really held onto that where I was like, I guess
I'll never be Rudy Huxtable. But but the that the
college thing was that came hardcore where I was like
I fucked myself, Like I I that would have been
four years that I would have been that much further

(27:57):
in New York. And it's like no, in reality, like
you're just I don't know, let college be college.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
I think. So I think that's good advice, and I
think I wish I had I did let it be,
but I would have maybe done it differently. It might
not have gone to school in LA maybe if I
was sort of like, yeah, just take your time and
let college be college. If I had that mindset, it
all works out. It's worked out for you if I
may say, pretty sure, we're doing all right, yea, but

(28:22):
it is an interesting thing where you're like negotiating and
doing the math and like, oh, that's four years. I
felt that way even then again about UCB, not realizing
UCB was here during my whole college.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Experience, and then you're like, I could have been taking class.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
I could have been taking class. This is the whole time,
and I would have further along. I would.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
I did the exact same thing with UCB, where it
was like a lot of people would take class one
after another and I would like take class and love it,
and then I would like go do a play and
then come back and everybody else was in like two
levels ahead of me, and you know, but I would
go do another play or whatever, and I would I
would yeah kind of what does self flagellation mean?

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Does that mean you're like, oh, like that feels that
sounds right? Yeah, I like it. I would like, I
like naughty, yes, yeah, you're doing this wrong. Yeah, but yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
And then now we can say, now that we're eighty
years old, we can be like and it all worked
out at the time, you just don't know. And also
it's fun to play like sliding doors.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
It is. But then I'm like, is there a way?
So I took a class in college called the Science
of Happiness, and spoiler, the whole thing is that the
people who are able to be present are the happiest. Okay,
let me not focused on the past.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Who were able to be present? Cool?

Speaker 1 (29:30):
Cool? Yes, cool, so not over not thinking about the past,
not thinking about the future, who are just like I'm here,
it's now it as well you know, yes, did a
whole semester, paid a lot of money for that, whether
it's what those couldn't put it put it in a pamphlet.
So I I just think that it's so easy to
do the sliding doors thing for all of your life.

(29:51):
You're like, no, why, I just maybe if and and
there's something to be said for being like it's all
working out how it's meant.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
To And I, yeah, I abscribe to this. Yeah, one
one hundred billion percent. Yeah, Like I don't really, I don't.
I want to. I don't want to say I don't
believe in regrets, but I think I don't.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
I love this as you say it was a villainous laugh.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Yeah, I'm like, yeah, I think do you have a regret.
Like if someone is like, what's your biggest regret, I
try to be like fuck.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
You and beat them up.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
But I mean, I'm sure you have like I wish
I didn't say that thing to that person or whatever.
But I think as far as like big old choices,
you just gotta like I think you gotta think, you
gotta like own it, love it. I don't know, I
don't know. I really like this.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
I it's good. No, it's good because I feel like
if you're able to be present, you have truly unlocked
the thing. That's what the whole entire course was. Yeah,
I feel like it's what meditation is asking us to do.
So much of like self healthy things is it's like
just it's be here.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Also, one of the reasons why you're such a good
improviser and performer, oh think right, don't.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
Take you well, it's it's true. I think. I think
it's a big it's a big part of it. I
was a better I say I was a better person
when I was doing improv regularly because I was just like,
it's all good and it's gonna be fine. Because I'm
in the practice of yes, and all the time on
stage I'm like bring that to life problem and I
don't do it as much anymore.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
We did it for the listeners at home watchers. We
did a fun little week in Washington, DC a couple
of years ago.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Yes, dependent Kennedy and my dog, chief Cake. I knew
dog I was, he was brand new, he was brand
new to my life. Chief It was just like a
special little a few days week. I don't remember. Yes,
it was like almost I did. I did half a week.
I know that with touring, I'm a little like enough

(31:49):
after and then I think that about like three nights anywhere, yok,
even on vacation. Are you a good vacationer?

Speaker 2 (31:56):
I think, let's see good vacation. I think I am.
As long as it's like the way I want it
to be.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Oh my god, And when you hear yourself, you hear it.
But the thing about it is that I agree, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
And I'm not even saying like, uh no, maybe I
was about to say, like, it's not even like a
like a luxury snobby thing. It's but maybe that is
also I'm sure part of it. But it's like the
way I want it to be. So like Jason husband
and I went on vacation to Hawaii a couple of
years ago, and we realized after the first night of
like eating out at the fancy restaurant, that we were like,

(32:34):
we don't want to we don't want to do that
again this entire time. We want to order room service
and play cards in our room every single night.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Oh so great.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
We would open the like the the you know, like
we were staying on the on the ocean, on the beach,
so we just opened the doors and we'd put our
little card table out on the porch and we would
like eat a burger or whatever and play cards and
go to bed at like nine o'clock. That's what I mean.
Like that you may the vacation what you want it
to be.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
And yes, I understand, there's just no pressure to be
following an itinerary. You can just fully listen to yourself
and like, this is what I'm feeling right now. We're
going to do that. That's really nice. I gotta get
back to Hawaii me too. I am doing. What are
we doing here? Let's what an we gotta get? You know. Well,
here's the thing. The first time I went to Hawaii,
which is the only time I've been to Hawaii. I

(33:23):
was shocked by how far the flight was from here,
because in my mind I had decided it was like
a three hour flight. It's not from Las, it is
New York exactly.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
How dare it?

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Why would you be that far? Girl? Get over here
in America? Away from us? You are a part of it.
What are self? Confidence over here? Would be here? God? Damn,
we get it. We get it. You're pretty or whatever
it should be with us. I like that place. We

(33:55):
got to get back. We should go at some point. Okay,
let's go shoot something over there. Let's make were shooting
something somewhere beautiful, a Dominican Republican. You were in the
Dominican Republic doing something shotgun, shotgun, wedding. I know these
things because I auditioned. Okay, not for your old on
the door. Well, if I brought you here to confront

(34:16):
I talk. Actually one time you really wanted that role.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
There was in May that would do a very funny podcast.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
May twenty twenty three. I actually read for that. I
read for that.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Did I get a call back?

Speaker 1 (34:27):
No? No, And that was one of many. Yeah, they
said they were going in a different direction, and hello,
yes you did that. That was really that looked beautiful
from a distance watching it.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
You know what was like so great about that? It
was okay, twenty one or I feel like it was like,
oh yeah, it was pre vaccine. So it was a
year into COVID. We went to the Dominican. I hadn't
like had a meal with a new person in a year,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
It was like that.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
It was like I hadn't gone it was that fresh still.
It was yeah, just one year, so I hadn't like
been to a restaurant. I hadn't made a new friend,
you know what I mean. So it wasn't just beautiful fun.
It would have been great no matter what, but it
was it was like very we were we bond this
corsponded so hard because of it. And this is the
crazy thing. We lived in a house together. Maybe that

(35:21):
was also a COVID thing. Wow, a nice the nicest
house you can possibly. It was like a hotel house.
But it was we ate every meal together, roommates, roommates.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
Oh that's fun.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
So it was really special, special special.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
That's so fun, Darcy. I wish I could have been
at the house. I know what fucking bitch got, I
know I do want to know. I'm like, I don't
know how. It was so funny. My manager the other
day was like, yeah, you aren't. You took a meeting
for this movie that did very well some some other thing,
and I was like, no, I didn't. This is yesterday.
I was like, no, I didn't. I was like, I

(35:56):
never met anyone about that movie, and he's like, yes,
you did, and I was like, no, I did it.
And I'm looking in my emails, like I see no
such thing. It had a different title than what it
was when it came out. And then he's like, no,
I know that this happened. And he's like, it happened
March whatever of whatever year. And I was like, it's crazy,
how I have I truly have no recollection of said meeting.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
Am I crazy that you kind of have to? I
think I think you do?

Speaker 1 (36:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Yeah, neither of us finished that sentence, but we know
what we mean. You like, you have to, like again.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Actress talk listen, think about it, but it is like
you kind of have to, with these meetings and auditions
and reading for things, like you kind of have to
flush it down the toilet of your mind.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Yeah, otherwise it's like painful.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
It is awful. What did you do for yourself after auditions,
like or when you were not in the working phase,
especially then like post audition and in roadway sides? Are
you like hopeful and holding on? I'm such a I'm such.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
A hopeful, I'm such a holder onto. Okay, even to
this day, in fact, I got you know, like news
back on a ship, on a on a movie. Yes
today that I that They're like going, wait, do you
want to hear the line? Yes, we think Darcy is
a queen, but it's we think Darcy is a queen,

(37:12):
but this isn't It wasn't. This isn't the right thing.
But I don't think this is the one.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
And so huh okay what And I was like, I
but I also at least make it connect because I
want to start. We think Darcy is a queen, but
this isn't her kingdom? Right?

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Yeah, exactly, you're going to use the metaphor I'm like.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Go all the way? Why'd you drop off? Okay?

Speaker 2 (37:36):
You know there's like the zoom audition Absolutely not not
for you.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
I can't do would you prefer a self tape to
a zoom? I don't want to do either I like,
is that why I'm not working?

Speaker 2 (37:51):
I'm with you, like in person. Again, For watchers and
listeners at home, the options are basically like, you send
in a tape of yourself that you made yourself, you
zoom with a casting person and you do the scene,
or you go into the room. And since COVID it
has been it's become mostly not in the room. But
I mean I can count how many self tapes I've done.

(38:13):
I hate them, like the devil, and so zoom has
become like, I'm actually really into.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
You figured out, so I need to talk to you
about your zoom technique. I will actually because I just
don't understand. I'm like, so where am I supposed to
be looking and to the lens into you and the screen.
I'm making eye contact with the lens. I don't understand.
So I'm looking when.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Person told me the lens. So I did that and
I was like, this.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Is someone told me the lens as well, and I
was like, person, you're doing it with okay, So then
you like that's no.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
I mean, this is the whole thing, Oh my god,
actress talk. This is the whole thing that I hate
about self tapes is that you're acting with like no one.
You're acting with like your friend's voice that you're like,
be quiet.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Yes, I've acted with friends who are on face time zoom.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
Yes with me, it's stud not Actually you're acting in
like such a bubble. And if I feel like with zoom,
if you're looking down the barrel, you're doing the same thing.
If you're looking at your reader, you're a person. You're
doing the scene with. You can at least like use
our skills, which is listening and reacting.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
Yes, yes, my internet's not strong enough for zoom.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
It's scary.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
I just want to say, bring us into the God,
just get me in the room. Offer who offer only?
So what are we talking about? I'm sorry, A good place,
a league of their own and Sunday nights and and
shotgun wedding. The resume is resume, give my girl a job.
I need to be your agent. Offer only. Do you

(39:39):
know who the she is? All of a sudden, you
stop getting jobs because your agent is awful and aggressive,
and then I get them. And also I want us
to do something together because you did. We're going to
make it happen. It's gonna happen. You just worked with
Sherry Cola and so you yes, yeah, and I mean,

(40:00):
but I feel like everyone just works with chr. I'm
Sherry posted something else again today and I was like, girl,
is she never not working? Take a day at home,
take a day of rest and the Sabbath.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Okay, so today is March third, yes, yes, and yesterday okay,
a show that Cherry and I did together called Wild
Vacation Rentals on HGTV came out.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Okay, okay, was this did you know this? I did
not know this? Why didn't anybody? No?

Speaker 2 (40:32):
I didn't even say I didn't even I'm I'm dropping
it now.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
Okay, Wild Vacation because I saw you guys we were
bopping around, and I was like, they live together now,
I know you and Sherry, though, I was like, I
want to be where they are. I wish you were.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Oh my god, wait, I wonder I'm like already I
am already seeing a season two where we have guests.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Fun.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Believe it was really fun. It was we go We
went to so many different states and we stay in
rent well places, rental properties that are like I would
say crazy is not quite the right word, like unique,
Like we stayed in a cave it was gorgeous, a
gorgeous like luxury cave. We stayed in like a little

(41:15):
potato house. That's right, it's called a potato We stayed
in like a missile silo. These are all like they're
all well done, like beautiful, you know rentals, but there
there's not one single normal house. Everything is like wild.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Did you have did you have a favorite house? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (41:32):
Not to say, well, actually, I guess I'm not allowed
to say, because the show does we do like pick
our favorites. Oh okay, there's like there's you know there.
We stayed at a place with like a like an
animal sanctuary where like animals would come up to you know,
like an ostrich or a goat or whatever. We stayed
in in a couple of missile silos. Truly, the potato

(41:57):
was amazing. Like a tree house, a couple of treehouses.
Most most of them were amazing, Like the couple a
couple you were kind of like, I'm good. But everything
was at least like very unique and cool. And as
you know, Sherry is just like such a fun person
and it was with her and very small crew and

(42:18):
we just it was one of those ones where when
we all like the first couple of days as we
were starting out, we were kind of like, what is this.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
I'm not sure what exactly?

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Driving for four hours okay, and then like very quickly
it was just like, oh, this is a really nice
moment in my life. Like to be traveling with these people.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
You get the sad like post camp, like the end
of camp feeling with every production, even.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
Even when I want to go home, or even when
I'm like, I think my brain has trained itself to
be like you're done now, So I do have the
feeling of like it's time to go home. But I
do get a little blue and also a little untethered
where you're kind of like where am I?

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Who am I? Where do I live? What is my life?
What a strange thing? Yeah? So good place though was
the first big, big one, right you. I feel like
told me a little bit about your test. Yeah, once
you messed up in your test. I have a sick
my memory. It's I don't mean to gas myself sick

(43:19):
when I mean it like sick. How these people say sick.
I meant it like it's twisted sick. That's such a
it's weird.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Never lose that.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
Thank you, hold my hand yes, yeah, there was.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
Okay, so the there was you know, a bunch of
auditions to play Janet, and then the test is like
a different thing. Yes where you where a test is
like there's other people in the room and it's just
more serious. You're like, you see who you're up against.
There's a couple you know, other actresses that are up
for the same role. You've all signed a contract. It's

(43:56):
very it's a mind fuck. It's actually like messed up.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
It's messed up. It's really evil what they do to
us to try to get chops.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
It's like some old fashioned it's like old Hollywood like work.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
Do we make you feel possible? Then do so?

Speaker 2 (44:12):
I So anyway, we did the scene and there was
like a pretty long monologue and it was just it
was like going well, and then I like I was anyway,
I was, I was feeling good and then I batched
the lines up and had that second where you're like

(44:34):
do I do I start over, like what do you
do in this moment? And instead thank you to UCB Gods,
I was able to like this is a weird little brag,
able to just use it right, to comment on it
in character, and which you know, I'm like it worked
in the moment, I'm like, I don't know if that's
the advice i'd give anyone, But it was like, you know,

(44:55):
in character talking about how I messed up and getting
back into it and it made them laugh and I
and afterwards I was like, I do think that helped
me get the job?

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Yeah? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (45:04):
I think did you in real time?

Speaker 1 (45:06):
So you leave the room where you like, Okay, I
messed up, but that went I think that went well.
You so felt that? Okay? Cool?

Speaker 2 (45:13):
But I also was like I didn't get it, you
know what I mean? Yeah, but like I felt that
every time that I auditioned for Janet, where was like,
I know I didn't get it, but that felt really good,
you know, like I absolutely didn't get it, couldn't get it,
We'll never get it.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
Okay, protection yes, okay, but that felt good.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
Like that couldn't have felt better. Yeah, which is kind
of cool looking back on it, because it was like, oh,
it did work.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean I think that you we are
doing actor talk. It's fine, and we've submitted to it.
We'll stop commenting, okay, except for no, we won't do you.
The feeling of like I don't know that the like
I don't really care. Maybe I don't care and this
isn't gonna go my way, and like I just screwed up,

(45:53):
and now I'm going to use it in character and
this is not in the script and we're all here
to say the lines in the script. Do you think
like having that energy though, and that vibe of like
I don't care is helpful to you and booking? Like
when people say bring yourself to the role, do you
think they're trying to see improve Do they think, like
what do you? How do you take any of that?
I do think I think what a nothing? No?

Speaker 2 (46:16):
No, but there's something, there's something. It's not nothing, okay,
And you answer it too because I'm like, I think
it does maybe like a full on I don't care
is probably not so helpful, but sort of. I think
that the taking too serious, taking yourself too seriously and
too desperately is a turn off, whether people know it

(46:37):
or not, like whether the person you're auditioning for or
whatever it is, interviewing with whatever it is, like, whether
you know it, whether they know it. There is something
I think that is like like repulsive.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
Yes, yeah, I think that's accurate. Maybe I've been on
the other side of having to like say, yeah, you're
the person for this job, and and and anytime someone
is too eager beaver and like, what is the energy?
It's actually kind of almost offensive, right, I was like,
it's so disingenuous and it's weird, and it's.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
Making me uncomfortable, and it makes you uncomfortable. Yeah, and
then you're kind of like, well, no, I'm thinking about
do I want to like do this project with this
person that's going to bring this energy which they probably
wouldn't even do. It's because they're in the craziest situation,
which is that they have to like sing for their
supper or whatever.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Yeah, it isn't right.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
Yeah, it's messed up. It's not good. It's really bad.
It's messed up. Yeah. But then do you like that
moment because you did the improv because you messed up
when I'll just testing for Janet, do you then try
to take that energy that thing? Has any part of
you been like, that's the thing that helps me get
the job, and so now I want to take it
into my other audition.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
I think so, Yeah, I think so. But it is
also so funny to think like if I like purposely
messed up now going forward, you know what I mean?
If I was like purposely like okay, fuck up and
then you fix it.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
And then yeah, and that becomes your Hollywood reputation. So
she's going to come in here mess up a line
in the middle. Watch And I have.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Heard a couple of stories about two actors and potas
okay too, that did that type of thing, like like
like did something that that in the moment was like
a off off track and it worked. And so they
did it every time and both of them got caught.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
I want I want to tell you tell me off camera.
Maybe you say it on camera for the substack. There
is no substack. I actually I'll.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
Even like I'll even like one to one it, I'll
change what the story is.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
So one person would come into auditions, I'm just gonna
I'm gonna make this up on the fly.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
Okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
And and and I was gonna say, Burt, but that's
not quite right. Take your time, like.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
Take your time time.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Or like like sit sit on the floor. Yeah, that's
what they would do. They'd come in and they'd sit
on the floor, okay, and really kind of put people
like like, oh, what's happening and uh and they'd be like,
you guys, come sit on the floor too, Okay, so
let's say that's what it was. And then they did
that every time, and then someone was like I like
that that person sits on the floor and they were like, oh,
they sat on the floor with me.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Too, okay, Oh yeah, yeah okay.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
And then another person and into an audition and was
like I'm gonna go hard on this one and was like,
I'm so sorry, I'm late. My mom just died. Okay again,
I'm making this up.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
Okay, okay, okay, and then it worked, the person got
the role, and then this person did that again numerous
times until their agent was like, you have to stop
saying that.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
It's like gotten around.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Anyway. That's pretty funny. Okay, that is funny.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
You wish I was telling you the real stories and
the name I do.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
But we're gonna sub I don't really know what substract means.
A journal. It's like you're gonna want one. Just know
that you're gonna want one, like a like a tumbler.
It's like it's like yes, it's like it could be
a newsletter. It's like a tumbler. It's giving.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
I respect anyone that has a substack. But whenever they're like,
check out my substeck, I'm.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
Like, I'm blind.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
I I can't so sorry that I'm just flying literally
can't read, literally don't have right now for.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
This for substance some fair enough? I read that funny, Darcy.
I do wish you were telling me. I like to
tease things that well, we won't say on air because
I want people to feel part of our conversation.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
I know.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
I would like to tease them and say they're going
to go on to substack one.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Day, some day, some day. Substack could be your book. Yes,
it could be called my substance.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
Have you written a book? God? No, thank you rite book?
Which do that?

Speaker 2 (50:41):
But I do read a lot of this is so
like demon not even pathetic, but it's like, why do
I refuse to enrich my brain with something worthwhile? I
read so many actor memoirs.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
Oh, but you like what you like? I know, but
read a war on you know what I mean? Here's
my thing about the Wars. I believe you, I believe
it happened. I don't need to know. I don't want
to know what they were eating. I don't want to
know what they were eating. Happened. I'm so sorry, and
I'm sorry and I'm glad we've moved forward to here.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Yeah, but I like when it comes to podcasts, I'm
listening to my dumb, funny friends make jokes. And when
it comes to books, I'm reading about actors.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
Do you read listen to any self help? Ever?

Speaker 2 (51:28):
I really don't, Okay, And I know that like like
I've been sort of I've realized that it's like it
either works for you it doesn't. It either speaks to
you or it doesn't. Because I have a couple of
friends that are so into self help and I've sort
of like perused and I'm like, this isn't speaking to me.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
It's not you're not vibing with it.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
But then I'm like, think of the help that I'm
not getting, And then you're like, oh, yeah, I should
get it. I should get.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
Something you're doing. Okay, by my metric, Okay, what do
I know?

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Do you read a lot of self help?

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Yeah? One of my favorite books is The Four Agreements.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Okay, See, this is what I was about to ask you.
If I were to read anything, could it be this?

Speaker 1 (52:07):
I would say read that knowing that when you open
it the first time, I don't know what I was expecting,
but it's like toll tech wisdom, and I was like,
it's going to be I mean, it's going to be
so deep and profound, but it's actually very accessible and
I think it's a really I enjoy how simple and
in some sense rudimentary it is. I think that's actually

(52:27):
like that. That took me aback initially, and I was
kind of like, oh, whatever, but it's good. It's one
of my favorites.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
It's like the best ad yeah for this book.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
Oh, I don't understand. I guess I think I'm a
fan of it. The four Agreements. There's four agreements. My
favorite of the agreements, not that one is supposed to
have a favorite. Agreements. You're supposed to kind of do
all the right but don't take anything personally okay, cool,
which is it's going to unlock something for you.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
If you want to tell me the four agreements or
do you want okay I or is it like a spoiler?

Speaker 1 (52:59):
No, I'll tell you. The first agreement is be impeccable
with your word, which is not what you think it means,
but be impeccable with your word. Don't take anything personally,
never make assumptions, and always try your best incredible, never
try more than your best. Again, you read it, Okay,
you don't have to try more than your hundred percent.
Don't say you gave it one hundred and ten. Don't

(53:21):
never give it one hundred and ten. Okay, give a
hundred be cute, cute see Q hundred. Yeah, you don't
have to do too much? Is great and your best
is different other day. But whatever you're going to read it,
I love this, or you can listen to it. Yeah,
I like that. If you want to do that. Do
you do audiobooks do? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (53:36):
And I and I I had like guilt about it
until one smart person was like, don't have guilt about it?

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Yes? Like okay, okay, great, easy, that's all that takes
one person. Okay, Darcy, this is time for a segment
called that's nice. But what about me? Okay, Darcy, here's
what I want to know from you, because I feel
like your expertise. Here the vacation thing you said, right,
how do you decide when, where and how long? I

(54:05):
struggle with vacations, okay, and I'm so particular so it's
like I need to have a method.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
Okay. So I think you have to like ask yourself
some questions, and one of them is what do you what?
What is your perfect like companion on a vacation. Is
it a sibling? Is it a best friend? Is it
a group? Is it a lover?

Speaker 1 (54:27):
Like? What?

Speaker 2 (54:28):
What? And it can be as real like there's no
right answer. What do you want to see the world with?
Like what makes the most sense to you?

Speaker 1 (54:36):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (54:36):
And then I think you know yourself and you've said
this today that about three days and you're good and
not that a vacation can't be longer that but than that,
but you probably know I don't need to do two
weeks or whatever. Yeah, correct, I think it's it's like okay,
But the other thing is, I don't think we're taking

(54:59):
enough vacation. I think we're like it's so hard to
let yourself do it, and it's it's such a luxury
and it's so not necessary that it's like I'll do
it later. Yeah, like there's this perfect week. No, actually
something came up. I'll just do it later. But I
think I always say, like I always say in.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
This moment to say, right, now to me and then.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
Say, like, when I think back on my life, the
best memories of my entire life are from a vacation,
like family vacation, or or with Jason or with friends
or whatever. Like the it really uh demarkets wait wait wait.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Wait wait oh yes, that.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
It like breaks it breaks up your life in a
way where you're like, it's such a memory. It like
breaks up the maybe like monotony or or it just
it like I feel like it expands us, you know,
seeing new things and like being out of your comfort
zone and and okay, so is this helping at all?

Speaker 1 (55:55):
It is helping because I'm thinking, like what I'm here here,
like I'm making.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
What I.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
Always say, girl, No, I it does because I again
actra talk. We life just keeps lifing. And then it's like, oh,
this thing is going to shoot here and this is
going to do this, and I'm so grateful for all
of it. But if you don't go, oh my goodness,
I booked a trip to insert location well in advance,
it just doesn't happen. And you look back at the
year and you're like, why am I so burnt out?

(56:24):
And why am I so tired? I'm exhausted, I've lost
the light in my eyes, and I'm like, I haven't
taken any time off.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
And so I think also acter talk, we tend to
we tend to look at these little jobs in foreign
lands as like, well, I did get to go to
the Dominican or Australia or Pittsburgh or whatever.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
Shut out out, you.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
Know, like I did get to go to that place
this year's or this whatever, like you kind of can
can I did get to travel or we travel so much?

Speaker 1 (56:53):
But that ain't that's.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Yeah, exactly okay, And now you know what you said
about like planning it a year in advance. Yes, I
feel like that is important. And also the idea of
being flexible in a way where you're like, holy shit,
this month is actually pretty clear. What if I take
those three days in the middle of the month, you know,
like like earlier, Yes, and exactly, I mean I know
I that it's that easy.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
You know, I struck while the iron is hot? Is
that that's the.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
Expression depends on where you're going after.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
I struck while the iron was hot. Yeah, and I.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Booked a trip somewhere. Struck You struck while the iron struck? What? What?

Speaker 1 (57:36):
What are we talking about.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
It's like I took advantage the.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
Iron is yeah, I understand that. But strike while the
iron is hot.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
Okay, so let's see like like.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
Iron's only cooling down if you unplug it.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
Wait, I don't think it's that kind of iron, is it. No,
it's like I think it's like iron, the metal, the
metal iron like an Then.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
What are we striking?

Speaker 2 (57:57):
Maybe it's like fire, you know where they're like, well, oh, yes,
that's what it is. Imagine imagine.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
No, I will not imagine, and I'm not I will
not be imagining a single thing. I don't know what
you're talking about. I don't do handy wer imagine.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
Okay, it's like that rod of iron that needs to
be like shaped into a let's say, a crowbar.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
That's just a crime and you.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
Have to strike it while it's hot to shape it
into that.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
But also I think we can make yours work, which
is like strike the shirt while the iron is hot.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
I think that's also right.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
Thank you, That is right, because if you're you're not
gonna unwrinkle a shirt with a damn cold iron.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
No, okay, everybody knows. Thank you Darcy for having my back.
I'm also like, wow, a lot of iron iron analogies, metaphors,
terms of expressions, a phrase, yeah, whatever, one iron sharpens iron,
which makes sense to me. Oh my god, I don't
even know that one, although it makes sense to me
to iron sharpened eyes?

Speaker 2 (59:03):
Is it? You kind of be like, well, iron sharp
and iron, well, when would you use it?

Speaker 1 (59:07):
It's to be like that person's really smart and good
at their job or something, and it made me thus
then smart and good at my job. I spent a
lot of time with Darcy, and you know, iron sharp
and I love it. Yeah, but I like that one
makes more sense to me. But we've all learned today,
and that's the purpose of the pod.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
So there's iron, there's iron, and there's iron iron tablets.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
Because a lot of women. I was one. It's cool.
It's so cool all the time because I was.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
I was a tale.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Yeah, oh my god, pills. Yes, and we have gray
sweaters on and we almost wore the same outfit. Oh, Darcy,
what a treat. But we have to help someone else
a listener.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
We're ready.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
Hey, I go.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
My name is Kate and I have a question for
you and your guest. I have a dog that I
bring to my local dog park every day, and when
my husband comes, he's very social. He talks to everyone there.
But when I go by myself, some of these people
think I also want to have.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
A fifteen minute conversation. I think I just say I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
So do you have any tips for how to respectfully
get out of the conversation that you are not interested
in having?

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Yes? Thank you, Kate, Kate, Kate. Just wear earphones. Just
wear you're listening to something or not. Just put on
the big ones, big, not a little white, not the
little tiny boys.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
Big overhead, big ones, big over it. You know. I
was doing that for a week this summer, Okay, to
try to not talk because I'm like, my walks sometimes
are though it's New York City, are because I need
to feel air on my face and decompress and kind
of go off into a far distant land. And I'm
gonna tell you what about them big headphones. All it

(01:00:53):
did was make people be like hey, more more. That's
why I did it for one week.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
More than right, drue attention.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Yes, the attention was drawn, and I was like, no, wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
The idea of making someone go excuse me, I'm like
I would be mortified.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
I would too, but you'd be surprised people or not.
But I do think the big headphones are a good fix.
I'm hopeful for Kate at the dog park. I also
think it's funny to be like that person never had
headphones on at the dog park before, and then they
could all of a sudden. Was it me? Was it
me trying to talk to Kate about.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
So funny that like that her just the idea that
her husband's such a social butterfly, and she I mean
that does I think opposites attracted so cute to think that,
like he does that work? But when she's there alone,
she's like, oh.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
No, I mean I'm t I think the headphones are
awesome fixed.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
And then what else?

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
Like a book? A book?

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
For sure? God, people are dumb.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
I know people will be like reading reading.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
Oh no, I mean you could pretend this is psychotic,
but I'm like, you could pretend to be on a phone.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
The entire time. Why does she have to do all
that work?

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
That's not fair to get be like I'm every like
thirty seconds to goo uh huh.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Yeah, what's the mean with the little ones? If?

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
Ok, we're even holding a No, that's scary because I
ne'll see the background, okay, and then I guess the
other thing is to be honest. But I don't recommend.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
I can't. I don't think I could dare and be
like I really don't want to talk.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
That's what been saying.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
I'm sorry I'm not as social. I'm sorry I'm an introvert.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
Yeah, that's no. People don't. Extroverts don't know how to
take that kind of feedback. By the way, O extroverts
can be violent. Yeah, I have to say, are you
an extrovert? Yeah, you are?

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
But I love alone reason yes, within reasons.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
I think it might be an ambivert girl. Okay, I
don't know about that one. It's a little mix of both.
I love being an extra extra. Yes, I'm bye. Yeah,
I really think that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
Yeah, because I really like alone time.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
I got me good.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
I really like to sort of. But you know what
I love. I love saying I love like this is
it's almost humiliating. I love striking up a conversation with
somebody in line. Really, my husband hates it. He's an introvert.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
My dad and I are both like, if you're about
to get I just I don't mean like where are
you from at all? I just mean like just saying
something to your neighbor in line.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
It feels so good.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
Wow, is that inside sane? It's not insane? And we
love you Ford and support you at this podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
Crazy because I can see it from the outside, it's good.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
I think those people know I think those people. I
think those people are good. They're important, they're necessary to society.
I value them from time to time. I have become
so introverted post COVID, yeah, post SNL, where I like
exerted so much energy being all the time. I'm so

(01:03:45):
I'm so like I live in Fortnite, remember, and so
I I used to be a talk to every stranger
all the time, energize. But like with age and the
COVID and all the other things I've said, I'm like,
I've gotten like we don't have to be talking totally totally.
But I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
I guess when it comes to my amni am neverse
ambi amiver I it's so on my own terms because
as you're saying that, I'm like, half the time I
don't want to talk to anyone and I don't want
anyone I respect.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
See I that's I resonate because I'm like sometimes I'm like,
let's all talk, And when I shut down, I'm like
everyone read the room exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
I shut down Like the idea of I would I'm like,
I would never talk to someone next to me on
a plane.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
Yeah, it's like the quick little like in line the
line the line thing. If I were victim, I know,
d no, if I was on the receiving end of
the line thing. It would genuinely just depend on the
mood I'm in because I actually could think it's like nice.
And when I can see that someone has struck up
a conversation that like absolutely didn't need to happen, I'm like,

(01:04:46):
you know, that's really cool that that's how you are, right,
I actually think it's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
Can I just be one step clearer? Yes, I would never.
I mean this it's not a conversation. I don't know
what the what the need is. It's like it's almost
like I want to like compliment your nails, yes, and
maybe we have like one more sentence and then but
I'm not asking your name, sex.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
Location, Okay, I don't want to or it's.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
Like I want to tell I want to be like, oops,
you dropped your hat.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
Yeah, like have a good day, Okay, that's it. You
just want your friendly spirit.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
I just want friends and yeah, I just want to
kind of like connect with a person for a second, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
And I'm okay with that and I support it and
I think it's good. People like that do make the
world go around. It's when it's like aggressive and demanding
of someone's full energy and that they'd be on and
I'm like, yeah, I just wanted to say, your hair
is beautiful and.

Speaker 4 (01:05:38):
I like you. Yeah you're actually evil. Amby Yeah, Amby, Amby. Okay,
Oh my goodness, Darcy, thank you so much. I really
appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
I love your girl. I love I am, I am.
I like, am so proud of you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
I have to say I was. I was in the
room for Lisa. Uh oh that first time you did it.
Oh and it you know, I'm like such, I mean,
I love you so dearly, but I'm also such a
huge fan of you and that was like I had
like tears in my eyes so much pride, thank you
and just watching you like the second I saw you

(01:06:17):
at UCB, I was like star and then getting to
like watch the world. See that has been like so
rewarding as your friend.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
Thank you Darcy so much. And before we go, because
we're saying sweet thing is, we did a show at
the Inner Sanctum Rest in Peace, UCB Sunset. It's my
first time I met you that show and it was
like some kind of straight if it was an Inner Sanctum,
it was a strange show. You we were performing together
and you were like get out there. And that that

(01:06:47):
sticks with me all the time, like, not in a
mean way, the most supportive because I didn't know everyone else.
It was like more senior and it was so loving
and kind, and I think, and that's when I think
about you, I think about the support and in that
moment's sincerely. So's a sweet memory. It's very sweet memory.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
Well, great, okay, we love each other.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
We love each other. That's it. That's the end of
actors Talk. Thanks Darcy, bye bye. Oh my goodness. That
was my conversation with Darcy card and we're gonna call
it actress Talk. Actors talk. You didn't sign up to
hear actress talk, but you heard actress Talk. I found

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