Taylor Ortega

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Be cool, be cool, be cool, be cool, be cool,
be cool. This is all going to be part of
the show good okay, not the sock talk professional.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Yeah, people really want to hear about that.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Well, I mean they might be intrigued. You never know
what to do. And I think what you said about
like doing basing it on how you feel.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
I know, well, you know when you're looking at your
looking at the outfit and you go, some something's amiss,
some things and something small and I don't have time
to look it up. That's some things wrong.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Do you ever look Do you ever have time to
look it up? Honest? No?

Speaker 2 (00:40):
You know what I do. I'm like, if I'm spending,
if I'm doing big screen time, I will save them too.
Then an album that I never refer back to in
case I are you like, do you ever save like
TikTok's like reels? I say, And do you look back
to your collections and say, I'm going to learn today?

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Rare rarely ever, rarely ever And mainly my the things
I save are like restaurants.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
I should try that. I'm doing a lot. I have
New York, I have La yeah, and then I have
vague travel for like Europe, anywhere in Europe or Asia
that I think I might want to go.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Say, I, well, I have like Paris, which I do
spend time at Paris. I have New York, I have
La and I want to go to Japan.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, so like I have a lot of Japan obviously like.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Tokyo Osaka, but then I also have like out of
the way places where I go.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Probably you're not taking like a side trip to this place.
But what if, like whatever, no.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
It's going to be in your saved files.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
What if we're at a restaurant and day and you go,
I want to video about this. I say, the video
about this? Wait, oh my god, I knew this off.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
But then the scrolling forever to try to find it,
because every once in a while I will be like,
I know, I I saved a video about this, and
then I'll scroll and scroll endlessly on my saved and
I do have my safe kind of organized, and even
still I'm like, it's not organized enough.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
You can't because I can't be making new albums all
the time. But then I will see something where I go.
This is so useful, like taking passport photos at home.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Did you know that girl can take your own passport.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Photo allegedly allegedly, and I know that I saved a
video about it. Okay, I know that I saved a
video about it. I'm hearing not only can you take
them at home, you don't have to have your ears out,
which is why.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
All science insisted that I had. This was first for
me when I moved to New York. It's time for
me to renew my passport. This is the year is
twenty eighteen. We're going back. This man insisted I had
to have my ears showing, and I was like, I've
never heard this in my life, and you're the second
person I've ever heard my.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Ears are out online. But it doesn't look good. It's
really weird. It's like like it's not that my hair
is never behind my ears, but it's just in such
a way and you're not allowed to smile, so you're
kind of like it's bad.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
It's giving, it's giving.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
But I think there's girls with like soft bangs in
front of their ears, like in their passport photos. That's
the thing I had never just stunning. Took it at home.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah, okay, we got to look into it.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Half Friday, and I'll send it to you when I
find it. But I am hearing that people are doing that.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Okay, I don't know if it's just strict your what
how often are you like, I'm hearing that people are
doing a thing. Oh, it's basically just something on the internet,
because I do that with the Yelp reviews. I'm like,
I heard this place was really good.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
I heard. I'm saying I read, Yeah, I read, I
read it's more accurate. I read this. And then people
are kind of like, now, people are going.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Did you watch yeah? And in the truth is, but
I should do an intro for you. Oh my gosh, think, Oh,
how disrespectful of my supposed to come in and start talking. No,
same okay, and I'm not even here pretend mine. I
don't even know where to look. Okay. My next guest,
my next guest. Every time I say my next guest,
it's not that I didn't know what I was going
to say next. Every time I say my next guest,

(03:38):
I just keep thinking of David Letterman's my next guest
needs no introduction, and I feel like I'm ripping that off.
But I'm like, my next guest, he doesn't have That's
not a trademark. It's not on my next guest, and
he'll let you know. If he does, he'll come from
he would get at least I get us see Okay,
And that's fine, that's kind of cool.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Sheic.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
My next guest is an actor and writer who you
can see in Big Mistakes on Netflix April Night.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
That's Taylor Otega. Thank you so much. That thank you.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
I struggle with that really.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Well, because suddenly you have to think about what you're
saying exactly.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
I'm mostly not thinking neither never never, never. Okay, Taylor, Wait,
who do you want to say?

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Thanks? Who?

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Or what do you want to say thanks to?

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Right now in my life, I'm feeling a lot of
gratitude for Dan Levy, which I feel is pretty But
we're doing a lot of promotion right now for this show,
and it's sort of the first time we've Like it's
so weird to say that you're doing kind of like
a retrospective on something that no one's seen, but that
is how it feels for us, and I'm sure even
more for him. And I'm really grateful for the product obviously,

(04:47):
like making this show and then casting me in changing
my life, but I also he was like my partner
through the whole entire thing, and a lot of it
was just the two of us for like long stretches
of it. And he's just a really wonderful, creative person
to work with, and I think it I'm really proud
of the job that both of us did, and he's

(05:08):
just been so had such kind words for me throughout
our like promotional stuff, which we don't really do for
ourselves a lot. So then when somebody else's describing what
it's like to work with you, you're just kind of
like you'd cry. Yeah, you hope that everyone else enjoys

(05:32):
having you there as much as you enjoy being with them,
but it's not it's nice to hear it. Sometimes we
got to tell people.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
I know, I feel like that is such a good
practice to have to go I want to tell someone especially,
but even if they're crossing they cross your mind and
you're just like have a nice thought about them, you
should tell that.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
You should tell them. It's really hard to do, and
I think sometimes we think it's like breaking character for us, yeah,
to or like we're weirding people out. Yeah, But when
I have the the when I have that like one
second of bravery to like send the text or something
I do. Try to do it. Oh, that's such good practice.
I try. It's it's an encouragement other people have had

(06:11):
for me because I don't. I always never want to
say anything.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Okay, ever, actually, yeah, how are you with receiving compliments?
So you're saying Dan had nice things?

Speaker 2 (06:20):
What is specific and wonderful about it? And I think
I'm pretty honestly, you know what. It depends on the compliment.
Probably like if you're someone who's very like comfort, you're like,
I know, I do a good job at work. I
really pride myself in that. Probably you're comfortable taking I
don't know, but then public adulation is really crazy different.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
How do you how okay, how are you bearing with that?

Speaker 2 (06:42):
I mean, so far obviously it's like just us right
now as we're in this exact one but mere days,
mere days, But then it will be it will be out.
So yeah, it feels kind of like very safe in
a way because it's really just like up to us
in like a small group of seen it. So that
feels great, But I think what once it comes out

(07:05):
on a grander scale, there's always that rule of like
you have to believe the good things and the bad things.
So you just shouldn't listen to any of any of it.
I think you can listen to your peers and your
friends and yours also, I think.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
If you are in this, chances are you're already your
own harshest.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Critic, totally fresh and so which is so good. It's
really healthy always and it really keeps you in good boundaries.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
You're bad at everything you do, you are and never
forget to do that, never let that voisee in your head.
By Yeah, that's I mean, it's so it's so hard
to do that. But so then when people do compliment you, though,
it's like I want, I actually do want to take
this in, but it's it can just be a slippery slope.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
It's overwhelming.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Or what's the craziest is when and usually this comes
from friends, someone will say something kind about you that
actually hadn't crossed your mind about yourself. Yeah, And it's like,
can be a simple thing. I had a friend one
time be like we were like newer friends, and it
was it was it ended up being like a little
bit of a back ended compliment. But she was like,
you're says a welcoming person. She was like you're really welcoming,

(08:12):
and like you, I really you really don't give that
off the top. You don't really expect that that's going
to be coming. She's like, but then it is. I
and I thought, that's a really specific sweet compliment, terrifying.
Don't need to know what I'm giving, you know, it's like,
don't know what I'm giving from far away.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
You're giving pure joy, love, kindness, Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
But it is really like when you get a sweet
compliment from a friend that you hadn't considered, well, I
guess I hope I'm I guess, I hope I'm giving that.
That always feels kind of good. Yeah, that's always kind
of like people are having nice thoughts about me, and that.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Does feel nice, like I'm doing something right. It's resonating.
Something is resonating. That's what the way I think I
engaged with compliments and even like pub public adulation is
like it's just nice to feel like whatever you're doing
is resonating with somebody somewhere, someone's getting it. Yeah, you're
not on an island.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
You're not an alien. You're not and you probably like
there's a lot of feeling like an alien in the
world in general. Oh, yes, it's the opposite is worse
when you actually think where you go, I've I've really
found my people. These people really get me and they're like,
you're the weirdest girl I ever reader, you're straight and
you're going okay, like I was thinking we were here,

(09:19):
I was, and that's happened as well. I think in
like this time of being in comedy and stuff, where
you go, I mean, we're all so similar, we are,
and that is true. I do think comedians are like
you spend enough time around other comedians and you forget
that you're you're all living very similar lives that are
very different from everybody else's day to day routines.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Do you have a lot of friends who are not
in comedy and entertainment still?

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yeah, I would say for an adult yeah, okay, for
like someone in their thirties, yeah, yes, I have like
hometown friends, college friends, like different phases of life friends.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Oh, you've stuck with them, Like how long is your
oldest friendship or how old is.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Oh my gosh, I would say like that I speak
to super regularly my best friend from middle school. Fun. Yes,
but what's really interesting is she's also in the business,
which was totally random. Okay, she like also works in film,
so that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
That's where are you from?

Speaker 2 (10:19):
The Odd's Jersey, Jersey?

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Okay, so she in New York as well?

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yes, well Jersey technically, but yeah, it works in New York.
And we've always really wanted to work together and it
hasn't happened yet, and I know that it will. But
that makes things easier. I think there's like an understanding
of like, Okay, our jobs are really weird, and so
there's like you don't have to explain those things, and
then it keeps us kind of in the same space
and on the same weird schedules, right, Yeah, And she's

(10:43):
on like one. She's a makeup artist and like particularly
like a special effects makeup artist, does like really cool
pro aesthetics and like all like really crazy application. Every
now and then I'll get like a crazy series of
photos of like just like severed heads or something. Yeah, yeah, okay,
where are you the presthetic? What do you do?

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Did she do art? Was she like in art into
art growing up?

Speaker 2 (11:03):
She's been into like a million things. Like we she
was into art growing up, but we both did theater
and we were both like disruptive theater kids.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Okay, disruptive in what sense?

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Oh my god, Like just like obviously like in ensemble,
in on talking in ensemble, just being in the ensemble
of something and talking and sort of like, y'all are
not the stars. Yeah, your need to be quiet so
the stars can do their you can rehearse their scene. Yeah,
you know, playing like the Swamp people and like Once
upon a Mattress and we're like full, full volume talking
in the back of the rehearsal. I know it was

(11:36):
probably tough, but we saw ourselves as like, you know,
we're having an important conversation mac he Yes, that's about But.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
You guys were the main characters in your own lives totally.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
It's hard. Did you do theater growing up? Like?

Speaker 1 (11:45):
I did one play? Okay, I did maybe one or
two plays, but I was not like in school.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yeah, it's intense to you can't kind of be one
foot in, one foot.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Out, and I was very one. Me and my two
girlfriends were one footed one foot out. I think it
was Beauty and the Beast, and we did a couple
full rehearsals and we were like, not for.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Us, did you did you do the show.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
No early early though, gave them enough time to find
replacements for three of them.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
And I let me know even I'll let you know,
like even giving them enough time for replacements like theater,
when you're in high school theater, you're like, oh my god,
the show is coming up, and we should a three dropouts,
like they're really thirsty. You also gave them like a
drama that they probably really.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Yes, and it was and we quit so so so
so early. But I was like, oh, I think I'll
like this, and I was like I don't love this
and I'm gonna get you guys.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Ensemble or did you have like speaking roles are like
little like songs to do?

Speaker 1 (12:34):
We were ensemble, Oh okay, and and still that and
that's better, but in still that's you know, it still
was like there's.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Gonna be a huge gap in the choreo.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
The teacher, it seemed, and the director seemed absolutely unfazed
by our exiting and probably relieved, was like, these little
bitches don't care. They don't care. They didn't care. Did
you always know you wanted to be an actor?

Speaker 2 (12:55):
I used to like there definitely was a phase in
my childhood where I was videotaping the off or something.
You know, Yes, as if I was once again saving
videos that you're never going to watch again. Is a
real just in case, just for security. It's a it's
a security thing.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
It's a cover.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
One day you're gonna have to look back on Renee
Zellweger given a speech about for what. I don't remember,
but I have it on tape. Yeah, I think I was.
I always did theater. But it's kind of when you're
a kid, that's like the only outlet for like a
lot of kids is you're just you're like, I have
to figure out how to make musical theater work for me,
even if I don't particularly even if I'm not watching

(13:33):
it on my off time. I have to find a
way for it to work. So I was always doing theater,
and then I did like theater camps and would do
like improfit theater camp, you know, and that was really fun.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Okay, it was when you're bout.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
To learn because when also when you're a kid in
your wing theater camp, you're doing like they're giving you.
When you're at school, you're doing musicals, and when you're
at theater camp, you're doing like divorced women monologues and
you're twelve and you don't know what you're talking about
kind of and so there it's like there's not all
You're not doing a lot of stuff that you understand, right,
You're just excited to be on stage.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
I feel that way about song lyrics, so many songs
growing up, being like I didn't this woman is like
has been through divorce or emotional abuse, and I'm singing
about it full volume.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yes. And back then the songs that men were singing
were like terrifying to women, like especially like the big
like emo era of high school. I think they were
singing things that were like I'm on a killer deny
and you're like, I have to there's no other I
have to like, I have to like it. This is
what the kids.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Were Your parents supportive of your theater endeavors.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah, I would say they were. I Uh, they were
kind of like they were always uh supportive of my
sister and I being like creative doing theater all of that,
but they were very like, if you actually want to
do it for money, you do have to like you
have to take some initiative.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Oh okay, because.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
We weren't, we don't know anybody who's in the business,
So it would have been a full outside to inside situation.
And in that case, it's sort of like both my
parents worked full time and they were not about to,
you know, move like move to Nashville so I could
be a songwriter type of thing. You know.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
I know kids with those parents, I'm like, lucky you.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
They really but then they the pressure is really on
the kid to be like you're and we gave up.
The family has decided you're the main character of the family.
And yeah, our family was kind of like, if you
want a job as a child, you've got to go
and get yourself your own your own job day.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Yeah, so when did your your true hustle and grit
would you say, oh my god, as an adult, like, Okay,
I definitely couldn't have been a kid with a job.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
I don't think I think I couldn't have. I think that, like,
I look when I work with you, like kids now,
I say, they have something that I don't have. They
have a focus, a determination. They also maybe have like
past lives or something where they remember going to work. Yeah,
because when I started going to work, I were you know,
I worked like jobs in my town. I it was like,

(16:00):
I never I have no isledge of this. I've never
done this before.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
What is this?

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yeah? That not punching in and punching out?

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Where your parents creatives?

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Are?

Speaker 1 (16:10):
They are?

Speaker 2 (16:11):
They? They're creative people for sure. My my dad's a chef,
which feels like a very creative job.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
I've got to talk, yes, but that's what we're doing now.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yes, he's a chef. There's also very like a very
laborious job. So it's kind of it's a little bit
of both. I don't know if he would say that
he feels that his job is like the most creatively
fulfilling part of his life. But he's a very But
they're all very creative people, and I think it like
excites them that my sister and I are both doing
creative things for a living. Like I think that was
their hope is that it worked out. But they also

(16:41):
are like they very much pride themselves on being hardworking people.
So then you have to like, we always had to
have jobs, not all like and I always I've had some.
I've been really bad at a lot of jobs, A
lot of jobs. Have you been fired from a job? Yes,
someone was just I was just having a conversation where
I was in a table full of people and they
were like, have you ever someone has said, have you
ever been fired? And and everyone was like no, God, no, no.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
I used to think it was a rite of passage
as an actor, like you have to have been fired
from at least one job. I had never been fired
from a job. And then I feel like I sought
out a job that I could get fired for. What
was it, nannying?

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Okay, you got fired from nanny?

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yes, I got fired, but just because I was like,
I did the job, but it was like giving bare minim.
It wasn't bare minimum, it was above bare minimum. I
would stay later than I needed two at times to
help the kids with homework. But I just was like,
these kids are wild. Yeah, and I love kids and
I love them even more than.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
Everyone who loves kids also understand. Yeah, sometimes you hit
a wall and you go you need a Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
And so they were like you're fired, and I was like,
thank you. This means my dreams are gonna come true.
And Taylor, here's the thing they low key did like
two years later.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Getting fired is actually really good sometimes, or like jobs
not picking up, like things not going I do really
feel like forward motion always does feel good in some way.
I also used to feel like that way about breakups too,
be kind of like a little have a little bit
of excitement about like my life is moving for you know.
But that's kind of crazy to be Stangley and getting

(18:07):
fired was I was.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
What did you get fired?

Speaker 2 (18:11):
It's sort of like whenever I've been fired. I got
fired from a theater camp, I kind of and there
was times where I'm giving my all, But anytime I've
been fired, you know, restaurants, I think anytime I've been fired,
it's sort of been like, yeah, I can't really argue this.
There's never been a time I've had friends be fired
where I go. You need to sue, you need to
call the ac LU something. Anytime I've been fired, it's
sort of like okay. And I was sort of skating by.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
And wondering when yes and listen I had basically I
was Stangley and then it was a very quick thing.
It was like a month and I was like, Okay,
I'm gonna give it my all, and then very quickly
I was like I'm not Mary Poppins and I can't
save these children and any stay bad. Yeah, it's really hard.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
And I was like full presence all the time and
I got to go home.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
But I was like, they are whatever has happened before
I arrived at the ripe age of gosh, how old
was I twenty six or something? I was like, whatever
happened here?

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Can someone else's family? None us exactly.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
I'm not here often enough. I do not aspire to
be merry and so Poppins that is yeah. So I'm like, yeah,
I got I'm gonna I felt I felt really relieved
to get fired. But it was the first time. So
you've been fired a bunch of times, and how do
you take it?

Speaker 2 (19:18):
I fire a couple times.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
One thing I do like about I feel like jobs
in entertainment is that you do kind of even if
you're on a job for a while, it is like
ultimately you're like, I'm doing this for a couple of months,
then I'm doing something else, then I'm coming back for
a couple months. Like that is a nice rhythm, as
much as it also makes you feel insane, yea, the
times where you're you don't have a place to clock in.
I think it is when you get used to the rhythm.

(19:42):
A good thing when I'm yeah, I mean getting I
mean getting bad from other jobs. It always was sort
of like I'm tired of being here. God, I'm here
every day and then I leave, like I I really
feel for and this is most people, but like going
and spending most of your waking hours at a job
and then you only get a little bit of time
to go home, and then you're there again again to

(20:03):
and you're doing that every week of the year, except
for like a Christmas or something, or two weeks off
in the summer, like and it's the same people over
and over again. That is tough. You.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
Well, that's why you were never you were always going
to be a star. Frankly, if I may say transient names,
you're to your nature. It's such that you couldn't do that,
And that's what it's. It's in you. You have to
see people I think like that stability and like the predictability.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
How do you do comforting? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (20:29):
How are you with change? Just as a general concept.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
I'm good with it, but I like obviously have my
little meltdowns. You have to, like, I think even people
who are good with change, like then, I don't know
anyone who doesn't have like a bump on it in
some way. Yeah, you know, like you are scared to
let go, you have all those things. It's just like,
can you can you tighten your reaction time a little bit?
I think I do. I think I like have my dramas,

(20:52):
but they happen really quickly. Yeah, and I move on
really fast, you know. Yeah, I don't like to like
stew if I don't have to. But then everyone in
a while, while one hits you, obviously where you go.
I'm so overwhelmed. Yeah, and I'm going to be like
maybe maybe like a nightmare for three weeks a month.
Maybe that's it.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
See, I'm going like tom full months.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Well, I looked this up your pisces, I my partner's
pis and I feel like our mood difference is kind
of that. I will be on a more even keel
for longer and then I'll hit a dip and it'll
be like weeks months apart. I think for water signs pisces,
it's like you're experiencing the range of emotions in a day.
It's you're hitting three PM.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
It's over. I felt I felt everything today, even every and.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
It's much more. The spectrum is like height.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
I wanted to ask you your sign while you were
talking about how you engage with change, and I go,
don't be that girl. Don't ask, but do not ask, Taylor,
do not ask.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
I'm a Gemini, okay. But but we're both mutable signs, okay,
so we both are really technically good with change. Changes
are constant, so yeah, I'm good with change. But then
I also my rising is airy, so I'm very like
forward moving okay person. But then of course then I go,
I sometimes I'm not checking in with the I can
go long time without checking with feelings.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Really, that's kind of nice as a person who I
feel overall sometimes and this is no therapist would stand
by this advice, but sometimes feeling all the feelings, it's
just like too much.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
It is.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
That's how I feel as a as a pisces.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Sometimes I witness it and I say, that does seem
it seems really hard, and obviously our feelings are like
sometimes my partner will be like, we'll say, like you're
a logical person, and like logic is your truth, but
like for me, like feelings are the facts, and I go,
that's not true to me, that feelings are the facts.
But obviously I know how it feels to be like
my mood is my I can't like I can't see

(22:46):
that I'm loved by anyone. I can't see that I
have any good in my life. I can't see it.
My feelings won't let me. Yeah, I have to wait
for it to be over. Ye, And you're like, I
just have to wait.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
For it out. It's yeah, as I'm such a proponent
of feeling your feelings. And then in the pisces of
it all, I am a little like last week and
the number of times I've said this, it's not just
last week, It's been several weeks ago. But I'm like,
I don't feel like crying. And it's like and I'm like,
I have no problem with it. I used to, but
I was like, I have no problem with it. I'll
do it whatever. I'll happy, crial, sad, cry. But I'm like,

(23:18):
it's exhausting. And someone's like somebody said to me, like,
you can cry if you want to go No, No,
I know, I just I just don't feel like it.
I like, it's so exhausted.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
I had a breakup, a bad breakup once, or like
it was meant to be like this very big breakup,
but it was also like a time where like everyone
was really stressed out and I was doing a job,
and I had a friend who is a Leo, which
is a really people want to guess like fire signs
they sneak by Leo is a really emotional sign. And
this friend is a Leo who loves to cry, and

(23:49):
was almost sort of like, you can cry if you want,
and I can see them getting excited the You're like,
I can.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Have a little, dude, he shaved on a little cry.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
And I'm like, I just don't want to you right now.
I'm just feeling like kind of like dead inside kind
of yeah, yeah, I don't think crying would make me
feel better. I'm angry.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
I love that you said it was meant to be
a big breakup, meaning it was meant to be, but
that's just not how you experienced it.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
It was a big breakup. But you know when you're like,
you know what in the in the moment when it's happening,
or like right after it's something big is happening to you,
where you're just sort of like I wasn't planning for
this right now, and I don't know that I can
make the space for it and I feelings. I'm like,
I'm sure, I'm sure weird behavior is going to surface

(24:35):
at some point, and it did, you know, I'm sure
that this will take me a long time, like it
takes everyone. I'm sure I'm not over it. But sometimes
you're just kind of like, ah, I have to go
to work. Yeah, I gotta go to work. I have
to go to work.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Oh, my favorite thing is having to go to work.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
I love having Then again, sometimes most of the time
you can go to work. Have you ever been like
I have to go to work. Recently, I was like
I have to go to work, and I'm like on
set and I'm looking like it's a time where I
was like looking silly. I'm in a wig, you know,
and you want it be able to jump into it.
But I'm sort of like, I'm like between scenes, I'm
like looking at the ceiling. I'm like, like, I actually

(25:08):
am trying not to try. Everything's making Oh I've been
to work like that too, and you're just like, yes,
everything anyone says, You're like if only.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
In those moments says anyone come up to you and
is like, tylor, are you okay?

Speaker 2 (25:22):
It's everything okay? No, I really I think I'm good
at not making that apparent. I Oh my goodness. But
then you'll see someone else, like especially you'll see someone
else because sett is tough, like jobs like that, you're
just you can try to not let it, be a parent,
but you're there for so many hours. Yeah, it's once

(25:44):
it gets twelve plus hours. I'm a big believer in like,
if someone has something in them. When people are like,
oh that person's scary whatever, if someone has that in
them and you are working on set with them, like
their feelings will come out one way or another, like
their personality, their feelings, all of it will.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
So I do think I'm pretty good at hiding it.
But like it comes out, you'll see somebody else kind
of like have their like weird little moment. You're like, oh,
they were feeling weird today and I didn't know, and
I wouldn't have seen it. It pops out. They were
stuffing it down.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Yes, you know, it's true. I mean maybe that's the
nice thing about the acting of it all. It's such
a distraction, not just because like I have to go
to work, I'm here, but it's like I also have
to now emote a different thing than whatever I'm feeling.
It's that's nice.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Do you ever feel like this is such toxic actor?
But like when you're like actually feeling kind of happy
and excited and you have to you have to really
be giving an emotional spectrumhere you I still felt that
I want to. Things are going great for you. I
have this amazing Yeah, sorry, I feel really really good.
I'm sort of exhilarated, actually exhilary.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
I have again because I think like crying is exhausting
at times. Been like I just don't feel like.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Going at a job.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Not at a job, but like in acting class, just
been like, yeah, I can't do that right now. I
can't serve that or you do.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Sometimes I feel almost like indignant a little bit where
I'm like I can if I want to, but I
just don't want to.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Just it's a choice. I'm making a choice.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
You're trying to manipulate me. And it's like that's what
an acting class is. It's exactly it manipulating you and
you're paying to Donna.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Did you study theater college?

Speaker 2 (27:28):
No, I didn't. I studied like a bunch of stuff.
I studied broadcasting for a period of time, which was
really interesting. Never wanted to work in news. Sure, I
kind of did want to go to school. See, yeah,
so I it was never a school person. But I
feel like right at the time I went to college,
it was sort of like this. It was this sprint

(27:48):
of years that they made seem like an attorney where
it's like you have to, no, you have to.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
There's no choice.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
You can't live indoors for the rest of your life. Yeah,
right now. And it was sort of like, I guess
I will, but I didn't really. It really took me
a long time. Was I had a bunch of majors.
I was an English major, broadcasting major. I was briefly
an acting major, but I found it very expensive and

(28:15):
I needed to see a little more. Like I love
an acting class because you're like, Okay, we're going it's
this many hours a week, and we are we're doing
we're doing we're doing scenework, we're doing whatever. Yeah, sometimes
theater school is a bit like you're zapping my spine,
we're breathing, and I'm sure that there is I didn't
stay long enough to see what the payoff was, but
at eighteen, I'm kind of like, yeah, we should read it.

(28:38):
I took.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
I took one theater class in college and I was like, yeah,
and I planned on maybe being a double major. Like
that was definitely in my head. When I had gone
to college. I was like, even I was a bio
major and I was like, oh, definitely. I don't know
any don't be impressed. Don't be impressed. It's not good.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
I don't want anything that's real that's real school though
it was real. It was actually school. You were doing
real like you. I had like real course loads.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
It was real course loads.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
It was real. Early all the major would have been
like you would have been. I think, angry at the
people in your theater. Oh major, where if to hear
them complain?

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Ever, maybe that's what happened. I did one class and
I go, yeah, I don't like this. I know I
still want to be an actor, but I don't like this.
But I think for me being entrenched in all even
like in pursuing comedy, being like, oh my goodness, all
the people I know, the only people I know right
now at the stage of my life are comedians and actors.
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
It's really crazy. I think it's on some level it's
not necessary that they all be but I do think
it's so weird. I've come so like round trip on
seeing theater school being really young and going you actually
don't ever need to do this, Yeah, you never need
to go there. You never need to Like it really
is person to person. It's not gonna make you good,

(29:48):
it's not gonna make you whatever. But then I do
really think like acting classes, like doing shows if you're
a comedian, or doing whatever like that stuff has made me. Obviously,
obviously it's only been like a net positive being around
other creative people all the time. That's such a net positive. Yeah,
I think feeling like when you still live here. I
live here now, but I lived here then moved to
La then lived here, and sometimes I would be feeling like,

(30:12):
never jealous of other people and what they were working on,
but sometimes I would be feeling kind of like stuck myself.
And then it was nice to be in community with
other creative people because you wouldn't want to do what
they were doing. But you'd see someone like do a
solo show. You'd see someone do whatever they were doing,
and you'd go, okay, like if that person is like
exhausted and tired and probably wants a job, they're getting

(30:34):
paid for, but they're putting in all this work to
make something that they like and feel proud of. I
could do it too, you know, I'm here too. And
then it kind of you know, you start to doing
and then you feel good about yourself again, and you
kind of like it's like you need to you really
need to like see it to do it. It's see
it to be it.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Yeah, kind of that's the vibe. Honestly. I had a
friend who booked a pilot. My goodness, I'm going to say,
the year is twenty sixteen, and.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
I just grea year to book a pilot, great year
to book a pride.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
It was that was a different time. That was meaning
you pilot season very much the thing. But like she
booked the pilot and I was for me, it was like,
oh that's possible. Like you don't come from this industry
or not born of this industry, just kind of hustled
and did class and had this audition and you book
this pilot. It was so cool to see. It's inspiring.
And I do think to your point, I'm like, it

(31:24):
is it is helpful to be around other creatives to
be like, oh, the momentum, the creative energy. The people
who are pursuing their passions in this way and you
get your own ideas, you become inspired. It's a good
it is a net.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Did her pilot get picked up? And that is also
that is also really important to see, is see your
friend get her dream and then lose her dream, then
go back and do another and more shows.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Oh, let me tell you, Taylor. I when I I
had done a vision board later that year, my first ever,
I was like, let me be real specific. Pilot show,
it's multiple seasons to be very clear, not just it
made me get real specific, because that isn't And back
in twenty sixteen, it would be like your friend would
get a show, someone you know would.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Get a show, a pilot, whatever, and you'd go and
they never have to write a word again, and they
never she's free, she's moved on to the next. And
then it's really important to see them on the same
shows as you absolutely you know, promoting and doing that
where you go, oh, I'll be doing that forever.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yes, that's just part of the job.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
I'll be doing that for Yeah. And that that's really hard.
That's that pill goes down, really, that goes pilles goes
on dry. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
Yeah, when you see that, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
We're like, I have to no one ever like I
have this conver I feel like I'm always having this
conversation with friends and they're having they're reminding me that
of that, and it's like and we love what we
do and we're lucky to do it, and it is true.
And then sometimes you go, I hate this. Someone should
give me something at this point, and that's why someone
should give me something.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
I know, but you know what, I feel like that
is true of every single career and as gorgeous, fabulous,
wonderful as this all appears, and in many ways fucking
is is yes, dreamy, it's so it's like, yeah, you
go through those moments you're.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Like, what the fuck am I doing? Why did I send? This?
Is awful?

Speaker 1 (33:06):
A fucking shit show.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
And it's at the worst when it's like up to you,
when it's like on you and it's like your time
to create something new, you're just gonna like, what do
you want me to do?

Speaker 1 (33:16):
Yeah, I've done it all for me.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
You're like putting on a little wig.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
You're like, why you why people want? Well? How are
you with auditioning?

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Though? Auditioning. I think, I I love I think it's
I really miss when it used to be in person
because it was like you could go do it for
fifteen minutes and be like, god, I gave it my
all that I'm an actress. I'm a working at you.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah, today I went into an office building.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
I think when you're like doing lot, like when you're writing,
takes so much discipline showing up to like shows at night,
if you're a comedian, like agreeing to a show and
then having to leave the house when a stark out
in the winter, that's way harder than daytime audition. Yeah,
my god, oh yeah, oh my goodness. Someone else wrote it.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Someone else wrote it. God bless someone else.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
I'm schmoozing a little. Yeah. That actually makes me go.
I worked really hard something really happy day. I love it.
I did do once because I had been auditioning a bunch,
but for yeah, like sitcom pilots, that type of thing,
like card comedy. This was like pre pandemic. And my

(34:22):
sister is a musical theater person by original trade, and
she was really hard on herself with auditions, and I'm
like a girl, you're not even getting paid, Like, yeah,
fun whatever. Yeah, but she's doing like sixteen bars, like
all these pages that they have them, do it really intensely,
you know. And we went in for a rare audition
where we were like back to back, which like was
not happening at the time, and it was for a

(34:46):
musical film, and she was so nervous, and I was
so like, oh, I never get to do this, Like
I felt so prepared. I'm like, I sound amazing. She's
a way better singer than me. We go in and
I go in first, and I oh, she goes in first.
She does her audition, It's flawless, she sounds amazing. She

(35:06):
comes out, she's already beating herself up. She's like, I
don't know if that was gonna go. That was the
best audition I've ever heard it because I'm thinking, like
I'm used to like comedy auditions way loose. Yeah, I
go in. It's stern in there, okay, And I'm sure
they're perfectly nice people, but it's austere. It's a different vibe.
I go in and I'm kind of using my usually

(35:26):
like hey, so see it, you know, And I do
my sides or whatever if there are sides, and then
I do my song and I you know, I'm at
the end. I think I've killed it, and I they
kind of are looking at me, They're like, are you
gonna keep going? And I guess I had like missed
a whole page and I still was not getting that

(35:47):
I was meant to feel it Like I was like,
I was like, oh my gosh, my bad. Do you
guys want me to start from the top or just
go right from there? And I'm like, you can start
from the top. And I was like, incredible. And my
sister's probably out there listening to this audition and thinking
this girl is bombed so hard. I still left going
what I did today was incredible. It was incredible body.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
I feel like it's such good perspective to have because
it's so easy to be down on auditions.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
Though if I was in if I was in musical theater,
I probably would I would have a different They are
like very it's a much more intense space. It is
a much more like if we don't like truly it
feels like when when musical theater like Broaday editions, it
really does feel like they're gonna line us up and
like it really is scary. But I think coming from you,
I think doing like TV auditions as way. Yeah, good

(36:33):
to see you again.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
You're like, it's so I see you.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
Yeah, the sun is shining. We're gonna read half a
page of dialogue exactly.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Any questions, No, let's try it.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
I'm just going to give you another one because I'm
having fun with you, and you're like, I'm having fun
with you.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
I love that you love auditioning so much.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
I feel like rare, rare breed.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
But to your point, though, if I walked into an
audition and it's giving save the last dance energy intense
the table, they're all seated there, like do your thing,
there's no warmth coming from them. That would That would
really throw me. It would, and that's not fun. That's
not fun.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
It's not fun. I think it's gotta be fun. It's
probably they just I think that the theater world. Probably
it's particularly musical theater, because it's a harder thing to land,
Like singing is so scary. I think for them it
has to be a version of like what we get
from feeling we did a good job in an easier audition. Yeah,
you know where you kind of when you go in

(37:27):
and you don't have to belt at all, and you
don't have to sob and you don't have to do
any of that, and you're doing the thing you feel
comfortable with. But it's still that. Is that like a
little hit of like that was brave of me? Yeah?
Well I was pretty brave.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
What I did.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
How do you feel about now?

Speaker 1 (37:42):
We're getting so deep in the actor talk of it all,
which I tend to do sometimes. How are you about
getting off book for an audition? Are you committed to
it or are you like.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
I'm really trying to be more of like a preparer
and a reader. Okay, like this past year and like
the years to come, I think I have a whispering
but I don't want to admit it, kind of because
I have a bit of a crutch of like I can.
When I would do smaller roles on things, it was

(38:12):
easy for me to be like, you know how you'll
go in You do a like you do a blocking rehearsal,
and then you do a camera rehearsal and then you
film it nineteen times. So for me, it's kind of
like after those two reads, I kind of got it
in my head, especially if it's like good script people
are giving you, like good stuff, you're kind of like, oh,
it's in. And I think the problem with memorizing really
quickly is like it it becomes something you can kind

(38:34):
of lean on to not be preparing as much. So
I am trying to be I honestly want to do
theater a lot more now that I'm back in New York,
because I think it would really serve me to do
something off book for an hour and a half, two hours,
over and over and over and over and over. Yeah,
Like I really want to do that, and like, you know,
discover if you can discover things on camera doing a

(38:57):
bunch of takes or someone else's coverage, it's yeah, it's
interesting to see what. But you got to build up
that discipline. And I am really starting from a place
of like I came from improv.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Yeah me too.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
I came from it to boom.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
We do a little bit of you do a team
practice once a week or something you do. I mean, granted,
you put in your hours. I don't want to trivialize.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Oh it's a lot of time.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
But at the same time, I think I've said to people,
I think one of my favorite things about improv, one
of my favorite things about improv is that you don't
really rehearse. You don't And I'm like, and you do
the thing one time, it's satisfying and also pays zero dollars.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
You're still the least. It's like you cannot there is
no art form you can monetize less. No, and I
wouldn't have it any other way. It's so pure, it's
like and and it's almost the way that it exists
makes it so that you can't capitalize off of it
in any way. It's just built that way at its best,
and you can't capture it in that rocks. But certainly

(39:51):
when you say one rehearsal week, which is true when
you're on a house seamoror doing like your rehearsal, you're
doing your one practice teah practice a week, and that
that is as diligent as it gets. Yes for improv.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
And I but but then I got on a sketch
team at UCB, and I was very much like, I
don't feel like I mean, I showed the same, but
I'm like, we don't need to run the scene again,
same same.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
No. I lasted four months. I lasted four months. I
went this is a lot, I go you guys are
beating this.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
I'm like, it's not gonna feel it's fun and fresh
out there if we keep running these lots.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
I feel like it doesn't Like. I think there's like
amazing sketch out there and an amazing character work out there,
But to me as the one doing it, it's kind
of like sports versus watching sports. It's like, okay, well,
if I'm the one doing it, like I you know,
it's like this, I've done it a hundred times. Uh,
I've done this one hundred times. Now it's like fun
for you to watch. You can't tell the difference, And
in fact, you're probably liking watching sketch more than you're

(40:41):
liking watching improv because we figured it all out. It's
only the hits. But as the person doing it, it's
obviously way more fun to get like one good improv
joke off.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
Oh yeah, so satisfy, even.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
If the audience is suffering more.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
Yeah, but that's so sad that one.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
Big improv win. No, I'm on a sketch that can
that can.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
It's simply simply true. But I think we have this
in common. But I have to say that theater actors
are athletes. I think about them. I did a run
at the Lincoln Center and I was like, this is crazy.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
I saw that show. Yeah you did, oh yeah, gosh mayhem.
I loved it. But that's what I mean. That's exactly
what I mean. It is like it really like seeing
somebody else do something where you go, this person put
like all their time into it. It's not scary when
it's good. It's like you know, it's not when you
see it pay off and you see it be funny,
it's not scary.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
Yes, well, thank you. It was very stressful going into
but it is. There's so many barriers to getting started.
But I needed the pressure of like, this is the date.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
It's on the book. It's on the books.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
And as it crept and crept and crept, I was like,
oh shit, fuck, I don't have anything, but I need
that kind of pressure because I'm a big time procrastinator.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Well, it doesn't sound like it if you're putting dates
on the books.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
I rarely do, though.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
I'm like, but you're putting dates on the book.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
Your two dates on the books, and then and then
I'm mad about it. But there's a date on the book.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
It's I'm always I'm always but then when there's nothing
on the book, I'm sort of at my lowest. I
think that's most people that I yes, are at their
lowest when there's nothing when they're and that's where the
day jobs become comforting. And also then you can kind
of use the day job to say, this day job
is the only reason that I'm not achieving something bigger

(42:26):
than this. This day job is holding me back. I
would be I would be diligent on my own. Unfortunately,
I'm employed.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
I have a day job. Okay. I did a casting
director workshop. Had you ever done any of those before
they became illegal?

Speaker 2 (42:40):
Wait? I don't think I have. Okay, I don't think.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
That I haven't done a casting director workshop. And I
did a scene in this casting director was like that
was great, and she was like turned my head shot
over and was like, yeah, so you know, that was
really good. But I feel like you don't have representation
because you're comfortable. I don't know your life, but you
must be comfortable. And I was like, oh my god,
she wasn't wrong. I had the most cushy day job.

(43:04):
Oh in my own office.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
She was saying, she was one of those who was like,
you have to tear up.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
You have to tear Yeah, you have to tear up.
Plan B. And I was like, well, I'm this I
don't really have a plan B. But my day job
was way too comfy, cozy. I had an office with
a view. The view was of a cemetery. But still,
I like, that's.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Actually one of my most favorite beautiful views. So but
it was a view, nonetheless, And so I which cemetery
can I ask?

Speaker 1 (43:27):
It was the one by Howard Hughes Center in La
off the four oh five. There's like a cemetery, like,
I've been to that one, Okay, But you also you
lived in La. Yes, yeah, thoughts on La versus New
York and maybe your thought.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
Is God, it's like they're so hard to compare. But
yet I talk about it all the time.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
I want to know what your experience wasn't because you
did a brief stint in La with it.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
I did four years, okay, and all my stuff is
still there, So in a way, I it's I'm I'm
living in spirit And did you break up with someone there? No?
I got a job here, I Netflix TIW I'm on
films here, and so I came back thinking it was
kind of the opposite. I started dating someone and we

(44:08):
were long distance. Okay, and U LA me LA in
New York. Gotcha? I said, Okay, I'm gonna go. We
had been dating for a couple of months. I'm gonna
go to New York. I'm gonna film this show and
then maybe we'll just like go back to LA and
like live together and that'll be the plan. And it

(44:29):
just kind of like snuck up on me, Like New York.
I hadn't been back for a long stretch of time
since I left. I feel like, and I think I
was expecting that everything would have changed and that would
be hard to accept, but I forget that the East Coast.
One of the ways it's different is that like people
stay in New York, like, yeah, it is way less turnover,
way less transient than in LA. And I think I'd

(44:51):
become accustomed to that schedule. And LA is like both
like you'll have people move away, but you'll also just
have people who like are there a couple months and
then they're gone and they're back again, and you run
into people and you go, I may not see you
again for a couple months, but I know I will again,
Which is now how I am with La. But I
I came back and I like really just missed everybody

(45:11):
and I was having a lot of fun here. And yeah,
it also had become kind of convenient. Like I was
working in Canada and it's like shorter travel from LA
is tough.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
I will say, yeah, it's tough.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
It's like a lot. It's a full travel day and
then you're going right to a job or something, and
it is the most comfortable place to live. Every day
is gorgeous. There's nothing more I love than like, wait,
wasting a day.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
In La oh, and everyone's so good at it.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Oh, and knowing that it doesn't matter, Tomorrow's going to
be gorgeous. So it's a It really offers something beautiful
in the way of like everybody, and it slows down
the pace. It really makes everyone go, we did one
thing today. Let's not make each other feel bad. Let's
not anyone push too hard. I all agree. If we

(45:59):
all agree, yeah, to do one thing a day, no problem,
it can be done.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
And then we're going to Runyon.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Yeah I'm not gonna go to that.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
But I I lived in LA for twelve years, and
I think I went to Runyan Canyon my first time,
like nine years.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Okay, you weren't hiking at all.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
I I wasn't because also the hikes are like walks.
I'm sure there are real hikes to the hiking community.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
Don't come for us. I went to running once and
I felt like I was climbing vertically up the mountains whatever.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Thing. I just my cousin on a hike who is
from Jersey at Runyon when she came to visit me.
When I was there, she was so mad at me.
She was like, we are way too high.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
What do you mean, like the altitude.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
She just was like, I'm scared of heights. Like when
we got to the top beautiful view, it was like
here panic from her. And was like and I was laughing.
She's like, this is not funny, this is scary.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
It is. I guess you should have told her that
it's but it's in my mind. It didn't even occur
to me.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
But it didn't occur to me because I'm like, none
of these hikes are for real.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
Yeah, they're like they're soft hikes. They're soft hikes. And
the whole point of it is when you're living in LA,
you're living in just in California at all, it really
is the most beautiful place. You can't believe it. It's like
the biodiversity merely among succulents is like crazy. You're like,
I've never seen one that color. I've never seen one
like that before. Like this is outside my house. Yeah,

(47:19):
elementary in every yard. Imagine it is. You have to,
I mean, if you can, you have to experience living
in California. But then I am sort of like there,
you know, I'm sure there's like a lot of like
parables written about like living in Paradise and you know
the lessons there are for everything being so perfect and yeah,
what that means? And I asked my partners from San

(47:39):
Diego and I was like, do you have They've lived
in New York since twenty eighteen, but before that like
always like lived in La lived in San Diego. I
was like, do you have like when the season's changed
on the East Coast, do you get nostalgic pangs of
like memories and like sense memory? And they were like, no,

(48:00):
have any of that from growing up? And I was like, whoa, yeah, rock,
that's rocked my world for weeks.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
Not having seasons is I grew up in Baltimore and
I'm like, we had seasons all four very hard, dude. Yeah,
that we went hard on winter, hard, on summer, hard
on spring. So when people are like, no, it's the
tracking of time just feels different just there because.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
Of the m there's a numb yeah, and I'm sure
and the holidays are anything and it ends you out
of it.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
Do you miss La in a real way or in
a kind of like I'll be back and kind of both.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
I feel like lately it's been getting warm here and
it's making me think of La of it, Like today
is like a gorgeous spring day, and I am being like, Oh,
that's what they're experiencing over there, that's so fun. Yeah,
But I also think, I don't know, it's also a
place that, even though it does change a lot and
people cycle through a lot, then you go and it's
the same feeling of like, oh my god, it's like

(48:53):
I'm not missing anything the way I wasn't missing anything
when I was there and y'all were here, Like I'm
you know, I like, I'm definitely probably missing fun times,
but you guys aren't going to tell me exactly what
happened to what I missed. You'll never be so cruel.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
Oh do you when you see uh people getting together
on Instagram? You're not there? Do you feel any semblance
of fomo in general as a concept.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
It's so hard because New York is so fun. Yeah,
it's such a fun place to live, and it really
occupies your brain a lot. And unfortunately people in New
York are and this has not changed, Like people in
New York are doing like nineteen things a day, back
to back to back to back. So time is passing
so fat that I have noticed since being back, I
am kind of like time is moving really really really.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Way too fast, way too too fast, way way way
too fast. I I when I lived in LA and
I just romanticize living in New York. I wanted to
live in New York so badly. I'm like Emman East coastco.
I have to get to New York. I want to
be in New York. I used to feel fomo.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
I'm not a person who suffers from fomo. But I
would just like I'd look at the clock in LA
and I'd be like, it's it'd be five o'clock and
I'm like, but it's eight pm in New York.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
They're already in I think about, I will know it's
only I will sometimes have that feeling of like it's
only one. Yeah, it's only one. In LA, like okay,
they have so many chances to make better choices than
I have. The last three hours I've wasted another day. Yeah,
New York, I would get fomo sometimes because I had
context for living here when I lived in LA, where

(50:14):
if I saw really good New York night or like
somewhere somewhere really fun, like, yeah, I would get New
York fomo. Yeah, but I don't really get that abou La.
LA doesn't really do that, though, ye, LA does it
New York. I think thinks a bit more about the comparison.
People always say this like people in LA are not
thinking about New York, and they're not. They're not if

(50:34):
you haven't lived there, they're not thinking.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
I think if I think the comparison comes if you've
lived in either place, you've had close people come. So
I'm like, if you're from New York and you've never
been to LA, don't give a damn about LA. You're not,
you don't care, You're you're not worried about comparison. Same
for people in LA who are like this is home.
I love it.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
I'm never really living like I'm.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
Not interested in comparing the two fair enough, I do
think though, having lived in both have an adoration for
both places. I'm like, I did feel New York fomam like, oh,
they're having it there, it's fun over there, And being
in New York it hasn't so much occurred to me
except for like maybe once or twice when I was
working on a Saturday and like seeing all my friends
in LA got together and it's nice.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
I know, I but I also think because we're from
the East Coast, there's also like I think probably my
partner is experiencing that for La in a way that
it would take us too long to catch up to
that like, yeah, to feeling familiar about a place that
I think probably for people who aren't from the East
Coast who moved to New York as their big city.
If you're from California, then you moved to New York,
maybe it's taking you forever to adjust to like what

(51:36):
being on the East Coast feels like, or living on
the East Coast feels like where I do feel like
That's another thing. I think that, like everyone, I always
felt like everyone who lived in New York for the
most part was from New York, New Jersey, Maryland. Yeah,
it's true, like everyone, It's true. And so you're seeing
people who like, were raised really similarly to you have
really similar context for things. LA is not like that

(51:58):
as much. You have like your La people and your
California people, but then you have people from truly everywhere. Yeah,
so it is way more like take it or leave it. Yeah,
like it here. It's it's here whether you want it
or not. If you don't get it, that's okay. Yeah.
And in New York it feels a lot more like
I when I feel like I'm feeling fomo, it's like,
but those people, like, we have so many similar touchstones
and we have such similar childhoods. It's like that. It's

(52:20):
like that, Like I feel kind of defensive of the
East Coast in a lot of ways. And then now
I have a bunch of like because of comedy, like
Midwestern friends who add like a thirdgo element to it. Yeah,
and they're experiencing both cities. Like right now, the Midwesterners
I know are doing New York for the first time.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
Oh yeah, I'm saying a lot of that.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
Yeah, so it's fun to be here because you're kind
of feeling like, oh, everyone's here. Yeah, But and then
i'm I go, and then I feel bad. I go,
Am I just following the swing of the party? Am
I just going? Am I being fickle? Am I following? Taylor?

Speaker 1 (52:52):
How are you doing without your stuff?

Speaker 2 (52:55):
Also, it's really hard not having stuff. Your stuff is now,
I mean stuff I need myself. When is the last
time you've had to furnish a whole apartment? Because it's like,
not it.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
The last time I had to furnish the whole apartment
was twenty twenty. No, So I moved here and then
I lived in a spot for two years, and then
I moved.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
To sublet it furnished. Yeah two years?

Speaker 1 (53:13):
No, I got you got a Heidi Gardener like, gave
me her couch or yeah. She was trying to get
rid of her stuff and I was like, you can
have it if you want, and I was like, yes,
I love in a shit studio.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
I live in Midtown. I'll take whatever.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
Midtown equivalent LA equivalent of Hollywood and Highland. Why would
I move there?

Speaker 2 (53:31):
I kind of get it, like you're there for work.
And then it's also like I was on like near
like twenty third Street the other day, and I used
to work around there so much, spend so much time there,
and I was feeling like nostalgic for Madison Square Park
and I was like, live here, yeah, yeah, live in midtown.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
Listen. It was a special time.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
It was.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
I did COVID there.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Okay, that's a wild that's really crazy.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
But it's years ago. So it's been like it's been
like five six years since I've furnished. So you're furnishing
a whole new Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
I don't have like any hairs, and that's super crazy.
You think I don't need chairs. I have a catch.
I have a bed. I can sit on the bed chairs.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
The funny thing is I might not need chairs because
I don't. I want to sit in my I want
to be in my bed at all times.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
And I am functionally in my bed a lot. But yeah,
living with like when you live as someone who's not
who is like, I can't sit in my bed all day,
you go toally, I would never sit that's crazy. Sits
in bed all day, slovenly animal? What's in their vet
all day? Like?

Speaker 1 (54:30):
I feel like I am in bed so often that
when I and I FaceTime a lot. I'm but I'm embarrassed. Well,
I'm lying, I'm not really embarrassed. I think this is
what I feel. I feel like a part of me
should be embarrassed that someone who's face timed me last
week is facetiming me again, like three weeks later, and
it's like, oh, this bitch is in bed again.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
You know you're on bed the whole time. Did you
ever have be real? I didn't, but I know, be real,
be real? I started it, stop using it like everything.
But my uh a friend of mine said something that
like I think about now every day where she was like,
I really like it because you get to see how
many people are just like home most of the time.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
Yeah, it's I mean, yes, And before someone said that,
I went, I'm the most at home.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Who's ever existed. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
Yeah, but did you any feel any shame about it?
Because I'm like, I love being a homebody.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
I feel I feel shame about going out. I feel
shame about being at home. I don't know what the
balance is. The older I get, the less I care. Yeah, okay,
the older I get, the more I'm just like I'm tired.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
Yeah, it doesn't matter. I'm kind of yes, this is
my thing is I'm pro homebody. But the fact that
I'm in bed all the time, Like if I'm not
out and about, I'm getting in bed, I'm changing out
of my street clothes of course, softer pants.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Yes, yeah, I like being in my bed. I like
my bedroom. I like eating in there.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
I eat in my bed.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
I like watching stuff on a screen that there's bigger
screens in the house. Same but I'm on a little tailor.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
Are we kindred spirits? Because like laptop, give me there
is I have on my belly. Yes, the heat of
the laptop on the belly right in front of my
right here. I also don't have a heating pad from
the shoulders. Its hot, hot all around.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
I have that as well.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
But then my TV in my living room. I got
the most massive TV. I had a neighbor helped me
like like unbox it when I got it five years ago,
and he was like a big TV. And I'm like,
for a girl who don't watch TV and has to
watch on laptop.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
That's for guests. For the guests, that's for guests. That's
where when you have a lot of people sitting in
the room. Everyone needs to see the TV. Yeah, when
it's just me watching TV, it's like I want to
be laying all the way down like legs and I
want the cool sheets. I don't want the couch.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
Yeah I don't either. I got a couch that feels
like a bed because I was like, this is going
to incentivize me to get out of bed. And guess
what didn't work?

Speaker 2 (56:48):
If anything, it's it becomes a problem, Like now, this
is a problem I haven't had before where I'm falling asleep.
I mean I've had it in the past other places,
but falling asleep on the couch instead of in the
bed and then.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
Having to get up in the middle.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
See, well here's I Also, here's the thing. Sometimes I
don't feel like getting ready for bed period, say long day.
I have to make up on have to brush my teeth,
but I'm so tired. Tell me if this is crazy.
Perhaps this is a great segue into the segment. Okay,
that's nice, but what about me? Okay, okay, is every
once in a while we'll just not have the energy

(57:22):
to get ready for bed, can't conceive of it. Floss,
brush my teeth, wash my face, take crazy my hair,
What are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (57:28):
So long?

Speaker 1 (57:29):
So I will take a nap. It will be like
a one am nap. Set the alarm. It's like twelve
fifty seven. I'll set the alarm for one thirty am
to wake me up to properly get ready for bed.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
I do that all the time. I do at like
four am. I'll get up at four and I'll do it.
But I go, I'm washing my face tonight. Yeah you
got to.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
I'll break out.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
I go do this for three more hours. Every I'll
turn into just said, an absolute hideous beast.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
But works. But it works. It works, and people like
that's so chatic. Just do it and be done with it.
And I'm like, I'm that tired.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
I need and I do the full get ready for bed.
I do believe in the full get ready for bed.
I think on a night where I cannot, like a
really hard like you worked like long day, whatever, really
hard day. For once in a while, I have a
second moisturizer next to my bed, and I have like
wipes if I need. But I don't believe in the wipe.
I don't believe in wipe only. I don't believe in

(58:20):
the white.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
I don't I don't know.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
It doesn't.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
I was gonna say, you're so brave to see you.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
I don't believe I yeah, because.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
I also yeah, I'm like, the wipe is not enough.
The wipe is simply not enough. I will break out.
This will be a problem. I will, so we don't
come later. I have one right now. You have one
from from sleeping in makeup or from hair.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
From actually it might be from hair touching. From hair touching.
Have you seen the videos where it's like a girl
and she can't really be asleep, but a girl comes
home and then her boyfriend puts what looks like this
little it's like a little plastic tub, like soft inflatable
tub under her neck in her bed and does hurt.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Like oh, I know, well she's got to marry him.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
Full face wash does the hole getting ready for a
bed while she's sleeping, and then puts one of those
you know those the hair dryers that you put on
and then you stick the thing in and it.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
Is like oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
Then puts one of those on so she also has
dry hair for bed. It's crazy. It's like my dream.
I see those videos.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
It's like I've I would be is that is that
AI or it's real?

Speaker 2 (59:19):
I think it's real. I've seen a couple of creators
do it. I think the most My partner has brushed
my teeth in bed for me. Marry them. Yes, has
brushed my teeth in bed for me.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
But it happened one time because it's like hard to
do it is it's hardy you spin into cup.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
I probably I think I swallowed it.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
Damn can't be swallowing toothpaste.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
You can't be. That's the thing. It's not never toothpakee
with the plaque in it. I know it's not an
every night solution, but at the time, I go, yeah,
I wasn't going to get up. Yeah, I just was
going to get up.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
I've I've romanticized someone getting me ready for bed. I
think it's so messed up that after a long day
you're expecting it is so messed U.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Also getting ready of her bed is different, Like it's
different for everybody but mine. I would say, like takes
too long for me to justify.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
Sometimes I have a whole process and my friends will
be I call friends on FaceTime to do it because
it's a nice distraction from me for me and I'll
be like, you stay on the phone with me while
I do this. And my one friend was like, you
are the most face washingest person I've ever seen. I mean,
there are steps. I'm flossing every single night, every single night.

(01:00:27):
I want to keep my teeth.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh I want to keep my teeth too.
And it's something you don't think about in your twenties.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
Yeah, it's just that I had braces, and because I
saw what braces did to some people's teeth, like maybe
they're straightened, but like there's a lot of other things
going on now. I just that's when I picked up
on flossing in dental hygiene, was having braces. So it
was like a gift and a curse. I mean mostly
gift frankly having braces. Yeah, well, it's never a gift.
They're so expensive. Yeah, and I was fourteen and insurance

(01:00:55):
didn't cover it back then, so shout out to my
mom my.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
God. Yeah, I actually don't know much braces costs, but
our parents make it sound like it's a lot as
much as the house.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Five thousand dollars. That's like the mortgage times whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
I don't even know who. Yeah, And that was and
that was back then, like then, and that was back then.
What do braces probably cost now fifty k?

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
They're college to fifty k? You racist probably getting your
teeth fixed.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
Get your teeth fix. Honestly, I would get your tea.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
And I were zooming yesterday and he was like he
essentially who was such a proponent of college for all
of us, was low key like it's a scam and
the school's cost too much. And I so hearing him
say this all these years later, I was like, Yeah,
get your teeth fixed, and that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
If you're if you're gonna be like a doctor, a lawyer,
consider school. Yeah, consider if you're anyone else considered beautiful
teeth because it's people are you know, uh, there's nothing
like presentation obviously such an important part of being taken seriously.
You know that in psychology that is a big That
is c because you went to school for real stuff,
because you were taking like math scientists.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
Well this was in high school, gratis public high school. God,
the school was Gratia. I mean, taxpayers paid for my schooling.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
But really, yeah, it's really good. Why do we didn't
have that? But yeah, that is I think for most
things it's like you, we learned, we all learned that
you don't need to go to school, and then so
many of us went to college that it kind of
became like, oh, everyone has a college degree. It's not
even like a competitive edge anymore. Why did I get
this thing?

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
Unnecessary but also maybe good for you? So don't listen
to me? Right, actually does love My sister loves school.
My sister was school. I've talked about this on the podcast.
Everyone's different, some.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
People really like and thank god that exists. Yes, you
can say I'm not sure yet, because there's been so
much of my life where I'm not sure what next. God,
like most of your twenties, you're just sort of like
someone should let me know what I should do next.
And thank goodness for improv class. I know. Improv class
is really if you find your path in improv class. Yeah,

(01:02:56):
I mean it's a lot cheaper than college.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
Yes, try that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
I try that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
I did improv with someone who was like telling their
parents they were getting their masters. It was a lie.
But because they were an improv getting masters and.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
Your master's only cost three and you have books, we
support this.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
It is so great.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
It don't anymore. Im provate costs a lot more now,
but back then it was like you could get you know,
you could talks a parent into getting it for you
for Christmas.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
R Yes, improv degrees.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Let us go.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
Well, I'm happy to have had you today. Thank you
so much.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
You have the most beautiful teeth of maybe anyone I've
ever matched. So it's really work. It is.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
I still were my retainers sometimes, but that's for another time.
No no, no, no, no, I need to put it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
I haven't. I haven't worn it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
And sometimes because I thought like surely after sixteen years
without I were my retainer for a math sixteen years
and I stopped during COVID, which I feel like during COVID,
other people like pandemic lockdown.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
I stopped. You were kind of saying like when do
I take the retainer out of it?

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
I was like to get I was like, why am
I wearing this? And I and I stopped wearing and
then dentists recently was like, no need to that's forever.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
Yeah, people, that's so funny that like there were people
who were like coming out as like gay during pandemic
fully transitioning. You're like, and I kind of decided I'm like,
I'm not a retainer person anymore. I learned about myself
as well. I'm not wearing a retainer also kind of
like a big awakening. Huge.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
I still have it but for when I want to dabble.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
But yeah, yeah, I keep it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
Thank you, Taylor. I'm so excited to see you in
your show and thank you for doing this.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
Watch it April night.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
Please watch it please.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
Taylor is begging you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
Please you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
That was my conversation with Taylor or Tega. That was
very fun for me. I hope you enjoyed. If you
want advice from me and my next guest, we haven't
given out advice since some time, but we'd love to
give out advice. I'm speaking for me and my future guests.
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Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
See you next time. Thanks Dad.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
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