October 8, 2024 • 13 mins
Karlous Miller and Navv Greene sit down with Polow da Don at the 2024 BET Awards!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to the eighty five South Show. We are
here at the BT Awards twenty twenty four, and I'm
only talking to the interesting entertaining where renown superstars amongst
us today. Man, this is one of the coldest producers
that ever come up out of anything that needed to
be produced, that made some of the most dirty sound
(00:21):
classics from all across the board.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
And yo, yeah, I main shit. If you ain't never
had one from.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Polo or don come on now, what's happening was having
the home team. What's good? It's under the pleasure to
be here.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Man, Man, long time coming, Man, you stay visit, bro,
you represent the South Show?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Well? How you being? Man, I've been great. Man like
living life.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Man, I actually took the time out, took a little
break to enjoy the fruits of my label. Man ain't
gonnan lie because I put work in and when I
was like really just going super crazy, I didn't do
nothing else.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I lived at the studio.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
If you want to see me, you had to come
to the studio period Like I would do three days
studio straight, go home, sleep one day, and then three
more days so it's three on one.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
So I lived that life for like fifteen years real, damn.
And so.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
When Kobe passed, you know, he was my favorite basketball player, right,
And when Kobe passed, I said, damn, man, he dedicated
his whole life to basketball, and he didn't really get
to enjoy all the money he made. He really did
get to enjoy his daughter's his wife, but so forth
and so on. So at that moment, you know, Covid
had hit around the same time, so the game stopped
for a minute. So this just gave me a chance
to start going home. And then I was like, you
(01:27):
know what, that's kind of cool. Dang, what's up with
my brother?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
What's old? My sister? My parents?
Speaker 4 (01:31):
But so I just started living life and so and
I felt like music was just in this place and
doing his own thing, and I was just always mentor
so people called me to get things done, business, fixed beasts, relationships,
so forth and so on, or how to get a
new artists popping, how to bring an old artist back
to relevancy.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
And then I.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Finally met a new generation of artists that like really motivated.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Me, and I just was in that generation.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Pop Lord, my boy Jacky he going crazy on writing.
He just started his own label. So I just did
a deal with him to get him his own label
deal because he wanted the niggas in the city.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
That's really like been putting it down forever.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
And so I just thought, man, you helped so many people,
won't you just start your own company? Because he also
helped me, like build a lot of things in my
companies throughout the years, and so to start his own
production company and publishing company.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Marini, who I brought here with.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Me, she's just been over there chilling on some Southwest Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Shit, yeah you feel me? Yeah, juicy two times. My
boy at Jacob.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
I'm so inspired by him, man, because he's so young
and I remember when he.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Was sixteen just running around trying to figure it out.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
But I feel like he brings a different sound out
of the a he true ahl, but he bring a
different sound. So, you know, just people like that, anybody
else is trying to build, Like even the Mike Willis
who's had a crazy run, who just bought half the block.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
You know what I'm saying, it's going down big.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
You feel me?
Speaker 4 (02:57):
So I just man, I'm just so man. I'm just
so pro us. They don't make no sense, man, So.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I want to ask you this.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
You say, you do three days in the studio, what's
your process like at this point fifteen years in the
game and you was doing this three days on one
day off for the long So what's the process now?
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Because you said, yeah, it was crazy, I was totally
like kind of out of the studio. I just pull
up and see what's going on and just like you know,
touch things up or change this and the other, like
you know, executive produce.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
And in the last.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Couple of months, especially, like I said, the last month,
all on the stuffer in my bed twice just because
I knew we wanted to come out for BT weekend
and I wanted to present her. So we started out
by kind of like working out, because I always like
to see like what a person made up when we
work out, Like when you hit that when you hit
that wall, that threshold, I want to see how you respund.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
You know what I'm saying, You're gonna stop, You're gonna cry.
You know.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
She obviously younger than me, right, so she should be
able to put my ass when it come on slim
she is. I do be beating you though you let
him trick you already know you already know the time
my mom could defate you know who won. So you know,
I'm just right everything, everything, everything, So so.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Guess what, So guess what she coming up talking about?
She injured all type of whatever, But you injured?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
You know what I was. I was really injured because
I beat him running up for him.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
You ain't left that part out because his capt his cap.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
But my point is, man like, but she got con defeate,
A vouch for it.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Don't just be vouching defate all his life. So you know, man,
you know he got some type of vengeance against me.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Man, I could see that.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
He don't even show up no more. By the way,
you know what I'm saying. He don't show up nobody.
He's too busy. That's the hardest working dude. Just but
he got more money he ever had, so I used
to take his money. We ain't really have no money,
you know what I'm saying. You know, but we were
both we were both coming up, you know what I'm saying.
So you know what I'm saying. But now since we
got that check, you know what I'm saying, he like,
you know what, I got family, I got responsibilities.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Now you know what I'm saying he ain't telling the
truth about nothing. Man, delete all this footage and start over. Man,
please do please do put out the truth.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Do please, man.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Anybody they know they could see. Man, there no times
going down like on the dice, on the bowling ping
pong with jump shots.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Nah.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
But that just go to show the type of president
you are, because you're very diverse when it comes to
the music, Bro, do you have a favorite genre.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
At this point you done crossed over all of them?
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Yeah, real pop, hip hop, arn country, country.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Like, what's what's your ship now? Is it just you
know what moment?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
You know what I'm saying. It's like women, you know
what I'm saying. It's like.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
You got some crazy ship.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
No, it's like when you thought you the most beautiful one.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
All right, that's going I g Right, when you go
through girls or whatever, right, you think you can see
them all and all of a sudden you see one.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
They take you to a whole new world like goddamn,
why come from?
Speaker 4 (05:55):
And it's music the same way as you go through
the journey of music, especially when you start to travel,
and then if you understand the essays of music, which
is soul, which is you know, us, right, you start
to be like, damn this shit Spanish, but this shit
African too.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Man, I just saw some dudes in India that was
rapping their ass South. I don't know what they was
rapping about, but whatever he was saying, I believe it.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
That's what I'm saying. So it's about that feel, about
that connection. And so music for me is the same way.
So as a producer, obviously you run across all types
of musicians and writers and you know so far and
so on, and one day somebody might come in doing country.
You be like, man, I don't really a fucko country
like that, but that shit hard, you know what, I
know what I'm saying. And then he'd be like, man,
you got Chip my partner out. You got Chip and
parting out. Then you just go into a whole new world,
(06:44):
just like when you're on IG with the girls and
you go to a whole new world of you know,
like talent and people who do things that you don't do.
But as a fan of music, you know, it just
pushed you in, you know, and you just don't be
a hater and you can man wealthy for.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Real, to me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I know a lot of young producers run up to
you and hang you hard drafts and shit, I'm sure
you're still getting CDs at this point, you know that, Like,
but you you one of them ones. Is like when
when a young producer plays you some of his music,
does it necessarily have to be a hit right then?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Or can you here like this ain't the best shit,
but you got something?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Absolutely Almost everything that was super dope in my career
started out that way. You know what I'm saying. I
would say like that probably is my gift, just like.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Not being a hater of being open, you know what
I'm saying, Like I got billionaire friends and crackhead friends.
Now straight up I got homeless partners. You know what
I'm saying. I got Bill and their partners. And once
you realize that we are more the same than we are,
you know different.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
I think that's kind of like what music.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
When you make something special, it brings all different types
of people together. So guess what think about Even somebody
like little Baby right before that would have never been
considered to be something different than only than a local sound, right,
but then he blew up globally, you feel what I'm saying,
and nobody started that company coming, you know what I'm saying.
So I just feel like if it got feel to it,
(08:09):
it got connection. And that's why I always try to
teach new artists. Man, let me hear your story. Forget
everything you heard, forget everything you like you inspired by
that's great, let me just see where you're coming from.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Because you what you have is something nobody else has.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
And if you could tap into that and then we
can put that on a platform a wide spectrum, then
we got something special.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
They got to come to you to get that.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Do you feel like a lot of the young producers
be more chasing the heads than.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Of course because you know, because ultimately, like you know,
there's money involved, right, so when we all trying to
change our lives and come out of a place of desperation.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
That's why I think the ones who are truly remembered
are the ones who really like.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Approach it like it took the art series, you know
what I'm saying, And that goes with anything, you know.
I think that's where it separates Michael Jordan from anybody
like Michael Joydan and give an interview at fifty five
years old, and he's break down in tears about the game.
You see what I'm saying, because the game is sacred
to him and the art of the game is secret
to him, and so that same thing goes for music.
Anybody who's like who take this art and from a
(09:16):
point of like indulging themselves in it wholeheartedly, I think
it's just a different thing. Those are the ones that
we feel. We know that's James Brown, we know this
is Michael Jackson. You know what I'm saying. We know
like when Chris Brown, right, we just feel him. That's it.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
It might not even be the best on but we
feel him. That's it.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Tupac might not be the best lyricist, we feel them
with make something better than somebody who got a thousand
words in the two balls. You feel me. And that's
what this shit come down to. Like can you connect?
You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
And so yeah, like I can literally sit here and
ask you a million questions, bro, we got a lot
of catching up.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
To do, so I and guess what ed five South man?
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Y'all so hard man appreciate it, man, I really respect
what y'all boys doing. How y'all did it? Like nobody
else has done. It's an original concept. And I ask
your boy, man, DC, man, it's crazy. I was like
the first person to ever pay him to do a
stand up.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
And now this is what I was about to ask you,
because before we started, Shaka.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Zulu was man, I did all this shit foll up.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
So look, I wanted to ask you like to have
like you said, he invested in you early. Man, what
does that look like? What did that What was that
opportunity for you that was created with you?
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Man? Just let me even be around and soak up
the game. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Shaka was a college radio station DJ when I met him,
you know what I'm saying. That's how early in the
game it was. And I knew Luda Cris. We was
just both hanging around to A and Atlanta. The scene
wasn't even like really that big yet. So the people
that were trying to like just get on and do
this music thing, you would see the same people over
and over and over again. And Shaka was just somebody
(10:51):
who was like already considered to be like smart, executive
base and somebody who make things happen. So he would
introduce us to a lot of people and then he
was on the radio. But like I said, but college radio.
So eventually he went to Hot.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
He got on the first real hip hop station, not
V no disrespect to be. I love V, I love REGGI,
I love Mike Roberts, I love the whole history of V.
But they were like they only had hip hop on
Friday nights for Fresh Party. But Hot was really just
catered to hip hop and catered to Atlanta locals. Like,
to me, that station really is with the turning point
(11:25):
in Atlanta because they was like, you know what, who
are you man?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
You popping in in Mckennisville. Well, you popping in.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
College Park, Man, pull up, We're gonna put your record
on high rotation.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
And so Shaka was a DJ at DE station.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
So, man, when I was in tenth grade, they would
play my records, you know what I'm saying. So he
just saw me just like just being energy when I
was a kid to won't this shit, you know what
I'm saying. And then I stopped rapping, started producing and
so going to what he's talking about, Pipping all over
the World, which became multi platinum Runaway Love, which became Grammy,
(11:58):
a Grammy winning award win record for Ludacris. That was
on my first beat. Take both of them records, and
Shaka was like, I want that record. I want that record,
and he was like this, they both gonna be Ludacristi's singles,
and this is why Luther Chris Ludacris already Ludacris. He
already going crazy, and he like, we're gonna make both
of these singles and will run away love.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
I knew that song was special. I said, y'all can't
have this un listen's single.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
He said, Nigga, it's gonna be a single and we're
gonna make it, make it a Grammy.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
So we we actually tailored tailored that record. We put
Mary Jay on the record.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
You know, everything was intentional because Lula just wanted to
break out from being like a comedic, animated, funny type
rapper to more like Mack could do anything and be
taken seriously as a rapper, as a lyricist. And so
I will give much love and respect and honor to
my bus Shaka.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
You know what I'm saying. I'm a true product of
the city.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Man.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Man.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I got your publicist later over there, going crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Man.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
We can literally sit here and do this all day.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
When you come today to Fast Sam Show, I'm gonna
have my list of all your hits and we going back,
we going we breaking them all the way down.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Men, what kind of high hat is that? All that?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Let's get it.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
I might just have to start pulling up to the studio.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I'm definitely a fan of what you do and I
appreciate you giving me a few minutes. Say your time
to stop here. BT Awards twenty twenty four. Man, already done.
Please continue to do what you do and we're gonna
be looking for some ship. When you get off injury,
you're gonna be taking some shit from you.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Fully recover now absolutely.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
BT Awards twenty twenty four, eighty five South show Standing
on Culture with Polo to Done Yes, Sir
Welcome back to the eighty five South Show. We are
here at the BT Awards twenty twenty four, and I'm
only talking to the interesting entertaining where renown superstars amongst
us today. Man, this is one of the coldest producers
that ever come up out of anything that needed to
be produced, that made some of the most dirty sound
(00:21):
classics from all across the board.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
And yo, yeah, I main shit. If you ain't never
had one from.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Polo or don come on now, what's happening was having
the home team. What's good? It's under the pleasure to
be here.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Man, Man, long time coming, Man, you stay visit, bro,
you represent the South Show?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Well? How you being? Man, I've been great. Man like
living life.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Man, I actually took the time out, took a little
break to enjoy the fruits of my label. Man ain't
gonnan lie because I put work in and when I
was like really just going super crazy, I didn't do
nothing else.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I lived at the studio.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
If you want to see me, you had to come
to the studio period Like I would do three days
studio straight, go home, sleep one day, and then three
more days so it's three on one.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
So I lived that life for like fifteen years real, damn.
And so.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
When Kobe passed, you know, he was my favorite basketball player, right,
And when Kobe passed, I said, damn, man, he dedicated
his whole life to basketball, and he didn't really get
to enjoy all the money he made. He really did
get to enjoy his daughter's his wife, but so forth
and so on. So at that moment, you know, Covid
had hit around the same time, so the game stopped
for a minute. So this just gave me a chance
to start going home. And then I was like, you
(01:27):
know what, that's kind of cool. Dang, what's up with
my brother?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
What's old? My sister? My parents?
Speaker 4 (01:31):
But so I just started living life and so and
I felt like music was just in this place and
doing his own thing, and I was just always mentor
so people called me to get things done, business, fixed beasts, relationships,
so forth and so on, or how to get a
new artists popping, how to bring an old artist back
to relevancy.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
And then I.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Finally met a new generation of artists that like really motivated.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Me, and I just was in that generation.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Pop Lord, my boy Jacky he going crazy on writing.
He just started his own label. So I just did
a deal with him to get him his own label
deal because he wanted the niggas in the city.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
That's really like been putting it down forever.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
And so I just thought, man, you helped so many people,
won't you just start your own company? Because he also
helped me, like build a lot of things in my
companies throughout the years, and so to start his own
production company and publishing company.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Marini, who I brought here with.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Me, she's just been over there chilling on some Southwest Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Shit, yeah you feel me? Yeah, juicy two times. My
boy at Jacob.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
I'm so inspired by him, man, because he's so young
and I remember when he.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Was sixteen just running around trying to figure it out.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
But I feel like he brings a different sound out
of the a he true ahl, but he bring a
different sound. So, you know, just people like that, anybody
else is trying to build, Like even the Mike Willis
who's had a crazy run, who just bought half the block.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
You know what I'm saying, it's going down big.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
You feel me?
Speaker 4 (02:57):
So I just man, I'm just so man. I'm just
so pro us. They don't make no sense, man, So.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I want to ask you this.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
You say, you do three days in the studio, what's
your process like at this point fifteen years in the
game and you was doing this three days on one
day off for the long So what's the process now?
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Because you said, yeah, it was crazy, I was totally
like kind of out of the studio. I just pull
up and see what's going on and just like you know,
touch things up or change this and the other, like
you know, executive produce.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
And in the last.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Couple of months, especially, like I said, the last month,
all on the stuffer in my bed twice just because
I knew we wanted to come out for BT weekend
and I wanted to present her. So we started out
by kind of like working out, because I always like
to see like what a person made up when we
work out, Like when you hit that when you hit
that wall, that threshold, I want to see how you respund.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
You know what I'm saying, You're gonna stop, You're gonna cry.
You know.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
She obviously younger than me, right, so she should be
able to put my ass when it come on slim
she is. I do be beating you though you let
him trick you already know you already know the time
my mom could defate you know who won. So you know,
I'm just right everything, everything, everything, So so.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Guess what, So guess what she coming up talking about?
She injured all type of whatever, But you injured?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
You know what I was. I was really injured because
I beat him running up for him.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
You ain't left that part out because his capt his cap.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
But my point is, man like, but she got con defeate,
A vouch for it.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Don't just be vouching defate all his life. So you know, man,
you know he got some type of vengeance against me.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Man, I could see that.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
He don't even show up no more. By the way,
you know what I'm saying. He don't show up nobody.
He's too busy. That's the hardest working dude. Just but
he got more money he ever had, so I used
to take his money. We ain't really have no money,
you know what I'm saying. You know, but we were
both we were both coming up, you know what I'm saying.
So you know what I'm saying. But now since we
got that check, you know what I'm saying, he like,
you know what, I got family, I got responsibilities.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Now you know what I'm saying he ain't telling the
truth about nothing. Man, delete all this footage and start over. Man,
please do please do put out the truth.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Do please, man.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Anybody they know they could see. Man, there no times
going down like on the dice, on the bowling ping
pong with jump shots.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Nah.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
But that just go to show the type of president
you are, because you're very diverse when it comes to
the music, Bro, do you have a favorite genre.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
At this point you done crossed over all of them?
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Yeah, real pop, hip hop, arn country, country.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Like, what's what's your ship now? Is it just you
know what moment?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
You know what I'm saying. It's like women, you know
what I'm saying. It's like.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
You got some crazy ship.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
No, it's like when you thought you the most beautiful one.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
All right, that's going I g Right, when you go
through girls or whatever, right, you think you can see
them all and all of a sudden you see one.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
They take you to a whole new world like goddamn,
why come from?
Speaker 4 (05:55):
And it's music the same way as you go through
the journey of music, especially when you start to travel,
and then if you understand the essays of music, which
is soul, which is you know, us, right, you start
to be like, damn this shit Spanish, but this shit
African too.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Man, I just saw some dudes in India that was
rapping their ass South. I don't know what they was
rapping about, but whatever he was saying, I believe it.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
That's what I'm saying. So it's about that feel, about
that connection. And so music for me is the same way.
So as a producer, obviously you run across all types
of musicians and writers and you know so far and
so on, and one day somebody might come in doing country.
You be like, man, I don't really a fucko country
like that, but that shit hard, you know what, I
know what I'm saying. And then he'd be like, man,
you got Chip my partner out. You got Chip and
parting out. Then you just go into a whole new world,
(06:44):
just like when you're on IG with the girls and
you go to a whole new world of you know,
like talent and people who do things that you don't do.
But as a fan of music, you know, it just
pushed you in, you know, and you just don't be
a hater and you can man wealthy for.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Real, to me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I know a lot of young producers run up to
you and hang you hard drafts and shit, I'm sure
you're still getting CDs at this point, you know that, Like,
but you you one of them ones. Is like when
when a young producer plays you some of his music,
does it necessarily have to be a hit right then?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Or can you here like this ain't the best shit,
but you got something?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Absolutely Almost everything that was super dope in my career
started out that way. You know what I'm saying. I
would say like that probably is my gift, just like.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Not being a hater of being open, you know what
I'm saying, Like I got billionaire friends and crackhead friends.
Now straight up I got homeless partners. You know what
I'm saying. I got Bill and their partners. And once
you realize that we are more the same than we are,
you know different.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
I think that's kind of like what music.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
When you make something special, it brings all different types
of people together. So guess what think about Even somebody
like little Baby right before that would have never been
considered to be something different than only than a local sound, right,
but then he blew up globally, you feel what I'm saying,
and nobody started that company coming, you know what I'm saying.
So I just feel like if it got feel to it,
(08:09):
it got connection. And that's why I always try to
teach new artists. Man, let me hear your story. Forget
everything you heard, forget everything you like you inspired by
that's great, let me just see where you're coming from.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Because you what you have is something nobody else has.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
And if you could tap into that and then we
can put that on a platform a wide spectrum, then
we got something special.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
They got to come to you to get that.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Do you feel like a lot of the young producers
be more chasing the heads than.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Of course because you know, because ultimately, like you know,
there's money involved, right, so when we all trying to
change our lives and come out of a place of desperation.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
That's why I think the ones who are truly remembered
are the ones who really like.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Approach it like it took the art series, you know
what I'm saying, And that goes with anything, you know.
I think that's where it separates Michael Jordan from anybody
like Michael Joydan and give an interview at fifty five
years old, and he's break down in tears about the game.
You see what I'm saying, because the game is sacred
to him and the art of the game is secret
to him, and so that same thing goes for music.
Anybody who's like who take this art and from a
(09:16):
point of like indulging themselves in it wholeheartedly, I think
it's just a different thing. Those are the ones that
we feel. We know that's James Brown, we know this
is Michael Jackson. You know what I'm saying. We know
like when Chris Brown, right, we just feel him. That's it.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
It might not even be the best on but we
feel him. That's it.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Tupac might not be the best lyricist, we feel them
with make something better than somebody who got a thousand
words in the two balls. You feel me. And that's
what this shit come down to. Like can you connect?
You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
And so yeah, like I can literally sit here and
ask you a million questions, bro, we got a lot
of catching up.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
To do, so I and guess what ed five South man?
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Y'all so hard man appreciate it, man, I really respect
what y'all boys doing. How y'all did it? Like nobody
else has done. It's an original concept. And I ask
your boy, man, DC, man, it's crazy. I was like
the first person to ever pay him to do a
stand up.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
And now this is what I was about to ask you,
because before we started, Shaka.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Zulu was man, I did all this shit foll up.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
So look, I wanted to ask you like to have
like you said, he invested in you early. Man, what
does that look like? What did that What was that
opportunity for you that was created with you?
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Man? Just let me even be around and soak up
the game. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Shaka was a college radio station DJ when I met him,
you know what I'm saying. That's how early in the
game it was. And I knew Luda Cris. We was
just both hanging around to A and Atlanta. The scene
wasn't even like really that big yet. So the people
that were trying to like just get on and do
this music thing, you would see the same people over
and over and over again. And Shaka was just somebody
(10:51):
who was like already considered to be like smart, executive
base and somebody who make things happen. So he would
introduce us to a lot of people and then he
was on the radio. But like I said, but college radio.
So eventually he went to Hot.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
He got on the first real hip hop station, not
V no disrespect to be. I love V, I love REGGI,
I love Mike Roberts, I love the whole history of V.
But they were like they only had hip hop on
Friday nights for Fresh Party. But Hot was really just
catered to hip hop and catered to Atlanta locals. Like,
to me, that station really is with the turning point
(11:25):
in Atlanta because they was like, you know what, who
are you man?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
You popping in in Mckennisville. Well, you popping in.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
College Park, Man, pull up, We're gonna put your record
on high rotation.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
And so Shaka was a DJ at DE station.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
So, man, when I was in tenth grade, they would
play my records, you know what I'm saying. So he
just saw me just like just being energy when I
was a kid to won't this shit, you know what
I'm saying. And then I stopped rapping, started producing and
so going to what he's talking about, Pipping all over
the World, which became multi platinum Runaway Love, which became Grammy,
(11:58):
a Grammy winning award win record for Ludacris. That was
on my first beat. Take both of them records, and
Shaka was like, I want that record. I want that record,
and he was like this, they both gonna be Ludacristi's singles,
and this is why Luther Chris Ludacris already Ludacris. He
already going crazy, and he like, we're gonna make both
of these singles and will run away love.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
I knew that song was special. I said, y'all can't
have this un listen's single.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
He said, Nigga, it's gonna be a single and we're
gonna make it, make it a Grammy.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
So we we actually tailored tailored that record. We put
Mary Jay on the record.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
You know, everything was intentional because Lula just wanted to
break out from being like a comedic, animated, funny type
rapper to more like Mack could do anything and be
taken seriously as a rapper, as a lyricist. And so
I will give much love and respect and honor to
my bus Shaka.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
You know what I'm saying. I'm a true product of
the city.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Man.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Man.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I got your publicist later over there, going crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Man.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
We can literally sit here and do this all day.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
When you come today to Fast Sam Show, I'm gonna
have my list of all your hits and we going back,
we going we breaking them all the way down.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Men, what kind of high hat is that? All that?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Let's get it.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
I might just have to start pulling up to the studio.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I'm definitely a fan of what you do and I
appreciate you giving me a few minutes. Say your time
to stop here. BT Awards twenty twenty four. Man, already done.
Please continue to do what you do and we're gonna
be looking for some ship. When you get off injury,
you're gonna be taking some shit from you.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Fully recover now absolutely.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
BT Awards twenty twenty four, eighty five South show Standing
on Culture with Polo to Done Yes, Sir
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