"Still Fly" w/ Legendary Producer MANNIE FRESH in the Trap! | 85 South Show Podcast - The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
My ice. Swear up.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Trust me, You'll never see me rolling nothing that ain't
twenty Jesus.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Ben.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Come on, man, that ship fucked my whole financial literacy.
I was really in high school thinking I'm gonna be
rich with these niggas.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
What walking in there on Friday Payday getting me two
past soldiers, white teg big a Jibol fucked them up
on Friday night when you came out with.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
The with the soldiery with the icy clip bottom, then
came back to the nig day.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
With the black Jesus. Now, I'm saying that big times
down here.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
They lost lamon guine and ship, and I brought us
with you my when my girl Rogers plus the blue
and black with Nintendo and not sorry, man, I swear
a card sorry we lost them.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
I'm bad. I pull up, smelling like dime SATs in Kanya.
I leap over.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
Later I'm flying back the private gents about the lance.
The women falled out when I let him touch my hands.
Man that the kids put n hell, Hell, whe's it.
I'll there easy.

Speaker 5 (01:22):
The kids is putting me. Now we expos for the moment.
Sakdam my girlfriend coming over, man, Dad, I don't about smell.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Like we God damn man, tell me godfridly with God
damn ship who was over for two weeks? What you

(01:54):
give me one more? Jay give me let me hear
one more, one or two more of them?

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Bitch man, what you got get me on the water.
You were the most water drinking this nigga that don't
drink water.

Speaker 6 (02:04):
But I be having drink the water. Bro, I gotta
stay hydrated.

Speaker 7 (02:07):
Bro, that's a can't be the hydrated brow that ship start.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Ain't kick it over, introduced me. Look, Frince, you been
engineering this ship too.

Speaker 7 (02:20):
Yeah, I mixed all these songs and we ain't had
no fucking mixer bag. Then damn, so what's the well.

Speaker 6 (02:27):
We ain't recording? Man, come on, man, come on, he
wait on you.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Boy said, I'm just I ain't playing. I'm just straight.
I got ship. Oh they probably see it. Ship up
under the table.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Ain't stopped me shining now stopped the drove leave from
windy Man.

Speaker 7 (02:53):
Y'all don't understand the inpact.

Speaker 6 (02:55):
Y'all got on a nigga life.

Speaker 8 (02:56):
So crazy like that's why it's some money. We tell
icons who they are. I don't care what you're talking about, nigga, we.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Fuck with you, then we fuck with you now right on,
right on the right.

Speaker 6 (03:10):
I don't understand that ship, like right on.

Speaker 9 (03:13):
The motherfucker had that that feeling that made you feel when.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
You first saw them.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Hold up, bro, I know we bumping the tracks right now,
but just so my nigga DC can hear it.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
You gotta find my cousin, Snap's new.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Keyboard, the skip Skip Snot's new keyboard, Snack new keyboard.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
You ain't never heard it.

Speaker 8 (03:35):
I'm a baby generation, the kid that wasn't supposed to
be listening to.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
You don't know nothing about that.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
What shake your ass with a ninety nine to the
two thousands.

Speaker 6 (03:47):
My mom smacked me in my mouth when.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
She heard me say that, you're the first cash money
CITs I ever owned. I had Soldier Raggs first, right
then I had went back and got all the BG ship.
Then I got how you love that Volume two? Yeah,
because volume one wasn't a vagable because.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
You got the deal. Yeah, we got we hadn't got
the money, yeah, so we had to.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Wait on the re release in volume one. Yeah, so
I went back and got volume one.

Speaker 10 (04:16):
When we were the kid that was putting bubble gum
aluminum full in our mouthpigg we had.

Speaker 11 (04:23):
Some platinum tap talk kept kept coming out of our mouth.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Michael Jordan, y'all gonna see me varved two million, it's
my part.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Young nigga with the cold heart Lexis.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
On the next start.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Everybody wanted to be Wayne.

Speaker 7 (04:40):
Yeah, that nigga had some vicious sound effects at.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
The height of the Hot Boy.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Wayne wasn't even the nigga bro juvenile? Was that nigga?

Speaker 6 (04:47):
Juvenile?

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Death?

Speaker 6 (04:48):
Is that nigga? I always want to be a little turk.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
I feel like we looking like y'all ahead paint nigga.

Speaker 10 (05:00):
Fuck that nigga will imitating rappers back then, you know,
he can imitate rappers.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
They tried to beat him.

Speaker 10 (05:12):
We were literally trying to imitate the rapper like as
a thing, like what we were rappers.

Speaker 7 (05:17):
He was wondering what was to disconnect what that happened
that when people stopped imitating, you know, and start going
I want to beat him, like you know, because that
was that was a good era of music, Like when
you was like, I love this song so much that
I could see myself being this dude seeing or singing
the song Now we we got so cool that you
don't want to be No, you want.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
To listen to the song, but you know want hot boys.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
I think.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
My first CD out of all y'all, well, it was
really juwish it.

Speaker 7 (05:50):
It was the fullhead of degree that soon as that
won't won't won't you see me whatever?

Speaker 1 (06:00):
That's the crazy part about this ship.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
This nigga was producing the whole album by hisself.

Speaker 9 (06:05):
Bron you coldes, Bro, you cold, cold cold, that whole
cold I think that whole little way like.

Speaker 12 (06:14):
Y'all already got your way, but you introduced it to
the world and the way.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah in house producer.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yes, this.

Speaker 6 (06:25):
The state.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Listen to this, Bro. I was watching Strap.

Speaker 13 (06:31):
In my dick down hole, and I thought about, I'm
gonna give you and third grade of seventh grade, ten grades, like, what.

Speaker 11 (06:44):
The hell is that?

Speaker 1 (06:47):
That's my coasin? What the hell is you playing? That's
the Nott keyboard and brother, I mean your cousin, I
mean your friendship with I think that's your friend to

(07:08):
check that. Man, I was on more than side. You
know you're the one that was always playing.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Man that ship bro spill at that time where like
skipped from the vitom to the album.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah they still live. We need nobody to drop no.

Speaker 7 (07:48):
Albums, No nobody scared to do that ship.

Speaker 6 (07:50):
We got to put the skins back on that.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah, yeah, put them back.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
I can definitely tell you all.

Speaker 7 (07:55):
Jewe want y'all all his ship, definitely want you all
on his new ship to do the ski.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Hey, j when I know we got work to do
it ship, but man, we've been waiting on this for
a minute.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Bro, you know how to be like you're a fan
of somebody, you just.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Won't listen to some of the ship while they're there
so they can see you listening to their ship.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Bro, please play the Hot Boys in three.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Six bron.

Speaker 11 (08:22):
And didn't play big when you're done, he finished, finished,
we tell DJ.

Speaker 6 (08:34):
Play that to get.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
That the atmosphere when that song dropped, like it was
just dope to see you having fun, bro, Like like
that's you have been waiting on them.

Speaker 9 (08:46):
You know what it was for me as a kid,
It was like the first time to see the producer.
I asked, you know how ship always been happening, But
it's a it's an error when you actually get to
see it.

Speaker 6 (08:57):
I actually got to see the producer rap.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, I'm like, okay, niggas could play both parts. Did
you ever really want to rap? Or is just one
of them things that you can do.

Speaker 7 (09:09):
I just knew I could do it, but it wasn't
nothing that And that's why with me and Baby, I
was careful to say that we weren't rappers. We was
game skame spiders, ain't game spider bigga.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
I'm like, so, you ain't gonna put me out there
with a bigga.

Speaker 7 (09:22):
Make me challenging the nigga that could really rap, Like
I got a rhyme book and I whip your ass
with what I'm talking about, but I about the you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
So we was careful on game Spit.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
No No my Cats money history because Juvene now went
back and he rapped the intro.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
He rapped on the intro beat for Yeah Yeah.

Speaker 7 (09:42):
Just when Jovie picked suit that he liked, you know,
like people be like, man, I fuck with that?

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Can I? And I'm like, go ahead, bro, do what
you're gonna do.

Speaker 7 (09:49):
And he always delivered, you know, because you know, being
from down the South, from the South, y'all niggas knew,
you know U n LV so bad ass Yellow and
when Juvie did it set it off. You know, people
was like, well, fuck this nigga got a hit with
But he wanted that beat.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
That was one of his stipulations.

Speaker 7 (10:10):
He was like, nigga, ain't j no, that's not juve
I did the beat, but he wanted to beat in
order for him to sign with cash Money.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
He was like, y'all gotta let me wrap on that beat.
That was one of his stipulations.

Speaker 7 (10:27):
Yeah, and I had did that ship when you know,
you like, I think I did that ship on the
foul track like a little small ass home in my
house when I was staying in the night ward Like
you know what I'm saying, that's that's just like first
generation drum machines. And I was like, yeah, I was like,
I got the fucking beat, bro, but I don't know
how that.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Ship gonna sound.

Speaker 7 (10:47):
And I was like, all right, let's let's and and
I found the fucking beat and he was like, bro,
this bitch oldest fuck you got it on a cassette.
I had that bench on a cassette and he wrapped
off of the instrumental of the cassette.

Speaker 6 (10:59):
So how did it start you DJing? First?

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah, d jan first, and then you like, how did
you find the love of making beats?

Speaker 7 (11:07):
Remixing shit? You know what I'm saying. Like in the
club were being Ko Ko used to do. You know,
he did no limit shitas by the Pound. Me and
him dj' in the same club under an He'll come
in time.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (11:22):
So we was under age DJing in the club, but
them niggas start like like really shining, and I was
just like, well, how the fuck I'm gonna make my
own thing. Then I start bringing my drum machine to
the club, Like you know what I'm saying. I started
doing bounce beats, and the bounce shit was just starting
to take off. So when I would do something like
out my drum machine and I had a fucking bounce

(11:43):
beat in that bitch, the whole club would go crazy
and bitches would go crazy. So that was my first
introduction to producing, and I didn't even know it was producing.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
I just thought it was just me doing some extra shit.
Yeah yeah, you know, hey, I saw was it?

Speaker 2 (11:57):
What did you do? A Ted talk or some ship.
He was talking to the crowd and you was showing
them all your bounce Yeah, yeah, that's.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Some of the most amazing. Bro, this didn't got so
much ship.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
And hear him put on the bounce beat, bro, just
going like you would never think, Bro, like you like
like Sam cooking them what.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
I got all of that on that bounce beat. Bro.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yeah, the first place I heard that ship, he was
playing that ship. I'm lying somewhere.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Because that's y'all culture, that's all. That's the way we
actually understood songs.

Speaker 6 (12:37):
Where did the bounce come from?

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Put somebody game? Let me tell you it's a crazy
fucking story.

Speaker 7 (12:42):
So even when I used to do this ship with
my drum machine at the club, motherfuckers would always beat
on the glass of the boot and be like, play
that beat. So they start calling it that beat, like
you know what I'm saying, and more ghitto, motherfuckers starts
saying that beat, that beat, that beat. So before you
know it, everybody in New Orleans was calling it that beat.
In one of the first bounce beats was some ship

(13:03):
that I had in my drum machine, the ship that
all y'all heard getting Ready song, getting Ready, Getting Ready.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
I used to always play that beat the.

Speaker 7 (13:10):
Bine, but you know, and everybody start using that motherfucker,
like it's circulated on a cassette tape, and that became
the beat that you had to use for Bounce, Like
you know what I'm saying. But it was some shit
that was created for the club, and I gave it
to a few DJs, and then everybody started using that

(13:31):
motherfucker and you believed did the getting ready, getting Ready
off of that song.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Yeah, Like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (13:36):
So you created the bat Yeah, yeah, created the come on.
That's crazy cause that she gets.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
A little legends that come through this here. You know,
one of my favorites, feel I feel.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
Oh yeah, yeah, I've done some songs for all of them.

Speaker 7 (13:54):
And when people you know, like when when when shit
get played in New Orleans a lot of times like
the old first generation Bounce, you know, motherfuckers didn't know
because you didn't have a way to say you did that.
But now people know, they're like, well, fuck man, it
Fresh did all of these fucking songs.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (14:11):
How do it feel to be the producer that everybody
has to come to, Like you gotta come through in.

Speaker 7 (14:19):
That era, bro, it would be equivalent to y'all, like
I guess just finding comedy. I was having so much
fucking fun and knowing like to me, I was successful
djying like my fucking high school dance, A DJing in
the club. That's success felt that way to me before
making records, just to know that you was rocking the

(14:41):
fucking party, like to say, like, oh shit, I control
his crowd, like you know what I'm saying. So that
was even that feeling came from DJing before it came
from music.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
For me.

Speaker 7 (14:52):
It was just like to know that you were fucking
DJ and you responsible for these people. And let me
give you all a little backstory. My dad was a DJ, right,
And so my dad used to let me hook his
shit up and come back later on and pick it
up and bring it home.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Held up.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
You got to say his name because I seen on
a couple of them.

Speaker 7 (15:11):
Yeah you heard like yeah, people talking about it in
New Orleans taboo. That was his name, right, So my
dad used to let me bring his ship, his equipment
to He played in holding the wall, ballrooms, all of
that shit, right, But he had New Orleans sold the
fuck up, like from uptown to downtown. So one night
I showed up early to pick his shit up, like

(15:33):
you know what I'm saying, and he was like, hey,
long as you don't get in trouble, don't do nothing.
You could just play the back, you know. And I
was like, all right, And that's a fucking ballroom, like
you know, like a hole in the wall ballroom. And
I see, like, what the fuck a DJ do? Like,
I'm like, God, damn, ain't nobody in this bitch worrying
about like bad times nothing, you know what I'm saying.

(15:55):
And he hitting the ass with cool lass song one
after another, and you see, like your job is to
actually take these people away from all of the bullshit
that's going to party and make it a party in
the worst environment. You know where this fucking place is
right across the street from the projects, you know what
I'm saying. And nobody why this music is played is

(16:17):
experiencing project life. They just fucking at job. They just
having fun, and you know, and I was like, that's
the feeling that I want to do. That's some shit
that I want to do. So I studied the ship
that my dad did, and I just made it my own,
you know. I was like, well, I'm gonna make this
my own shit, and even my whole thing was I
was like, I'm never ever going to use my dad

(16:41):
to get my shit, Like you know what I'm saying,
Yeah I could. Yeah, I'm gonna get my own lane.
I'mnna get my own sound like. And there's so many
people like even you know, on when my dad passed away,
you know, there was so many people that was just
like I didn't even know that was your fucking daddy.
It was like you've never said like, yeah, like, bro,
I never used my dad for you know, for what

(17:02):
he done. I wanted my own lane, but I understood
from him what you know what I'm saying, what a
DJ doing and what's the task. It's the same kind
of concept of what y'all do as comedy, you know
what I'm saying. When y'all looking at crowd, you know,
it's a high to know that these people are taking
away from all of whatever the bullshit is that's going
on for whatever amount of time they are with y'all,

(17:24):
y'all take him away from that ship.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Hell yeah, Yeah, that's that's that feeling is better than
that purpose to be like damn, bro, Yeah you've been
on the show. You see what people come up to
us and say yeah, hey, y'all, help me get through this.
I'm going through this without this, I don't you know
what I mean. It's like, man, that's heaven.

Speaker 6 (17:44):
Yeah, heaven.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
When people telling you shit like.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Man, you know, I love my sister this morning, man, yeah,
this morning.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (17:51):
I just needed to get my mind away from that ship.

Speaker 7 (17:53):
And he'd be like, damn, it's spiritual, you know what
I'm saying. And it's yeah, And I don't care if
somebody tell you, you know, whatever you're doing. Man, Look, bro,
I came here to give to the people, to make
them happy.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
That's what I do. And even you know, being on
the road with y'all, y'all, you know, that's what y'all do. Y'all.

Speaker 7 (18:11):
You know, I'm like, Damn, these dudes, shine bro, that
does favor with them, you know what I'm saying. And
there's a lot of people the reason why it don't
work because they don't have that favor on them. You
know what I'm saying, that they don't get the mission.

Speaker 6 (18:21):
Yeah, sure, we appreciate it. We appreciate you even rocking
with us.

Speaker 7 (18:26):
Yeah, y'all can't get rid of me. Broy'll appreciate that.
So like like like take us, take us back to
the journal.

Speaker 6 (18:36):
Okay, we understand that you're the DJ, and we know
you you you tear the part.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Of that when you start getting that bus right?

Speaker 6 (18:42):
How did you get with cash Money? How you get
around these people?

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Like you said, y'all in the project, got his own world.

Speaker 6 (18:48):
It's real, it's real.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
It's a whole career before the Cash Money. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (18:52):
Yeah, I was making records way before them. So I
think my first record came out in eighty six. You
know what I'm saying. It was Miami base because that's
what song sounded like. So I had a couple of
fast Miami based songs, and you know, and cash Money
wasn't heard of at the time, Like you know what
I'm saying, But somewhere somebody was thinking that my connection

(19:19):
with them was I was DJing everywhere in New Orleans, uptown,
downtown or whatever, and I was the drug dealer's favorite DJ.
So we had all the time, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
so you got to call man and I didn't understand
what was going on because I was too young to
get it. But the reason why they kept me out
there was they were serving while I was out there

(19:41):
if I was If I was out there playing, a
crowd was out there, you know what I'm saying. So
it would be five drug dealers that got together uptown
and be like, man, we gottahit. This motherfucker here all
night as long as he playing, the crowd coming, you

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Yeah, So for me, I didn't understand why booked.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
I just to me.

Speaker 7 (20:01):
I thought it was just popularity, and it grew into popularity,
but I knew, like at one point, God, I get
it while y'all y'all why I'm a safe bet with
everything they like, Man, get.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Maddy, the crowd gonna come, you know.

Speaker 7 (20:13):
And that turned into Okay, if I'm gonna keep this,
I gotta keep on giving y'all something new, you know.
And I started being the remixed king of shit, like
you know what. Somebody was like, well, he gonna play
some shit you ain't never heard. He gonna do some
shit you never heard. And all of that walked into like,
you know, the beginning of me making beats.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Now. Baby was one of them street dudes as well,
who you know.

Speaker 7 (20:37):
Who kind of caught my ear or whatever, and you know,
and he had mentioned to once or twice before, like,
hey bro, I.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Got a record company and blah.

Speaker 7 (20:44):
He gave me a CD of like his first artist,
and I was just like, man, this is bullshit, bro,
and you know, and I was just like, I don't
know what the fuck this SA is, like, you know,
and I'm like, how about we get back at it again,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
So, and I remember this vivid league. He could tell
you the whole ship.

Speaker 7 (21:02):
So about a year after that, after the first encounter,
he came back to me and was like, hey, bro,
I'm serious about this ship.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
And I was like, hey bro, if y'all gonna do this.

Speaker 7 (21:12):
Ship, I'm like, I can't do this shit if y'all
niggas is drug Dealer's like, either y'all gonna do it,
I'm not gonna fuck with it. I'm like, we can't
have one foot in one foot out. So they was
just like, so, you want us to put put all
our trust in you? And I'm like that's not what
I'm asking y'all. I'm like, I can't fuck with y'all
if y'all doing street ship, you know. And at that time,

(21:32):
New Orleans was on fucking fire. It was it was
war for everything. Any little ship you've done, somebody was
knocking your head off, right. So I was like, bro,
I can't fuck with y'all on that. So there was
just like I'll tell you what, Bro, We'll give you
like maybe two months and we'll try this ship and
if it worked your way, we ain't gonna fuck with
the streets. So and a lot of people don't know

(21:52):
the first generation of Cash Money artists was Bounce artists.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
It was all Bounce artists, you know.

Speaker 7 (22:00):
So the first song I did for them was a
dude named Lil Slim and there was a song called
on Bounce Slide Ride. It was like Bounce Slide Ride,
get y up, get it up like Bounce slide, like
some bounce shit, just the beginning of Bounce.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
We did that song. That ship took off, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (22:19):
The second song was the dude pm W, and that's
the dude he moved, he he he did the dip song,
I put my hand up on your hip when you dip.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
But he was he was signed to Cash Money early on,
like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (22:36):
Yeah, they group was PMW, Pussy Pussy Money Weed like
you know what I'm saying. So I did some ship.
Yeah yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying. So that
that was they ship, like you know what I'm saying,
and that ship jumped off, you know. So then you know,
they start looking for anything that was popping, anything that
was in the club that was popping cash money got

(22:57):
his hands on it, and then it became like.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
A fucking little Bounce dynasty. So we rolling like you

Speaker 7 (23:04):
And they had them times where sometimes where they was
just like, man, you know, the street shit is gonna
make us some extra money. And I'm like, bro, I
can't fuck with that. I'm gonna leave if y'all you know,
So this is what happened. This is some real, real
life shit. The Bounce shit was slow money. It was
you know, even though it was popping, but it was

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just New Orleans. The world hadn't kept had caught on too,
so it was only so many units you could do.
You in fucking New Orleans like okay, you popular as fuck.
So that was the birth of the big timers and
we were just like, well, what can we do that
We're gonna get out of fucking New Orleans. And I
was like, Bro, we could do some shit that's never

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been done before. We're gonna do this shit bigger than
any motherfuckers have ever done it. And we're gonna talk
about shit fucking Cadillac. We're gonna talk about space shuttles.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
You know what I'm saying. You can have Cadillac.

Speaker 7 (24:00):
I got a space shuttle, nigga, And I'm like, when
we do it, it's gonna be you know. So that
shit changed the whole dynamics of cash money when the
big timers kind of came around, because motherfuckers, that shit
took off and it went like fucking Atlanta all the
way to Houston that first.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Volume one, and everybody was like, we ain't never heard
no shit like this before.

Speaker 7 (24:25):
These niggas ain't saying they rappers, but they talking some shit.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Yeah, like you know what I'm saying. They Yeah, they
could sell push it to a hooker. You know what.
These niggas can sell space heaters in hell.

Speaker 6 (24:41):
You know what y'all did.

Speaker 7 (24:44):
And that changed the whole dynamics of it to like, oh, fuck,
like we got something here, you know. And I think
that was the moment when Baby took it serious, when
he was just like, Bro, they checking for us, they
calling for us, like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
And I was like, well, I think we should change
the whole momentum of this shit to rap. You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (25:05):
I'm like, Bounce's cool and it's my baby, but it
ain't ready yet, you know what I'm saying. So our
next thing was on soldier rags, you know what I'm saying.
We found Juvie at the bus station getting off the bus,
you know what I'm saying. And Baby was like, man,
I heard about dude. My dad had already told me

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about Juvie.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
My dad.

Speaker 7 (25:28):
Juvi actually knew my daddy before he knew me. My
dad was like, man, this is this nigga to That's
that's what we called you. He said, boy boy in
the projects, rocking whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Dah da da da.

Speaker 7 (25:39):
So we catch him getting off the bus where our
office was, and I'm like, man, let's see if dude
car rap. Man, if he really man that motherfucker Juve
rapped about I don't know, probably gonna even exaggerate, like
fifteen songs.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Back to back. And I was like, man, if y'all
on sign this nigga give him whatever here.

Speaker 7 (25:55):
I was like, yeah, I'm geeked out. I was like,
if y'all don't get this dude with the he won't,
I'm like, come on.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Bro, this dude is the truth.

Speaker 6 (26:03):
Okay, so you pick y'alli.

Speaker 7 (26:07):
Listen, bro, I'm gonna need this munch of money a month,
and I'm gonna need one beat that you ever made
that that that you were na LV beat. He said,
I'm gonna need that beat, and if y'all give me that,
I'm coming. I was like, done, bro, done, done done.
So the first album that we did on him was
the Soldier Rag album, and you know, and me and Julie,

(26:27):
I think we did that ship like in maybe three
four days.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Classic. Yeah, we did that album in like three or
four days.

Speaker 7 (26:35):
And you know, like that's that ship when you know,
when y'all when you're writing something and you know it's
a genius joke, you know what, you gotta smile to
yourself like you're like, oh, this vis kill him. You know,
we was doing them songs when I did Soldier Rag.
I was like this vigeal kill him. I was like
this beat right here and and and I hadn't played

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the beat for him yet, and the first time I
played the b for him, that's what he came out spitting.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
I was like, Oh, it's done, it's done.

Speaker 6 (27:06):
And so that's how Juvee came about.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
So who else you got you?

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (27:11):
So we got got so all right, we got you
was there first. BG was there. He was part of
the bounce thing.

Speaker 7 (27:19):
But you know, BG was kind of off and on,
you know, he started on the on the bounce kick
BG and Wayne was on something. There was the BG's.
They first little ship was called BGS. But guess who
called us the real fucking BG's. They was like, I
don't know what the fuck y'all do there? Yay the
hows y'all luck They was like, I don't know what

(27:40):
the fuck y'all doing, but y'all got to change y'all
name y'all fucking without ship. So that kind of played
the background right, and none of us knew.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
BG.

Speaker 7 (27:54):
Oh Wayne could rap Wayne. The way Wayne got was
Wayne daddy his well, his stepdaddy, Rabbit.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
We knew him.

Speaker 7 (28:02):
Rabbit was a street dude, right, So Rabbit was trying
to keep Wayne out of trouble. He was really like, say, brouh,
you know, I got my son, bruh, And you know,
I don't want him to fall into the dumb shit
that we look at lifeast.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
And I know he liked music.

Speaker 7 (28:17):
Bro, if y'all could just put him under y'all, I
told him, if he made good grades, you know, blah
blah blah. So the thing with Wayne early on was
he wasn't allowed to curse. So you know, his daddy
and his mama was like, you could run with them niggas,
but if you're gonna be making records, you can't curse,
you know what I'm saying. And Rabbit, you know, his
stepdaddy was one of our homeboys, like like on some

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real you know, like grew up with us. So he
was like, all right, fuck it, we're taking munda Wayne.
But Wayne would do shit where his grades were slipping,
and they would take him out the group, put him
back in the group, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
And every time his grades got.

Speaker 7 (28:51):
Slipping and his mom took him out, that motherfucker made
a's again just to get back, you know what I'm saying.
So now that the ship is taken off with baby,
you know what I'm saying, and all of that, but
I'm working on on BG's chopp of City, right, you

Speaker 1 (29:10):
So I was like, fuck, BG could kind of rap bro.
He been studying this ship.

Speaker 7 (29:15):
He's been you know what I'm saying, because his first ship,
you know, nobody really ever heard it, but you know
he signed up.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
He sounded a little whiny and it was all bounced.

Speaker 7 (29:22):
Versius like you know what, he was doing a little
chance and you know what I'm saying, the ship that
go with bounce And you're like, wait, this motherfucker really
talking some street ship, like some raw you know what
I'm saying. And Choppa City was I was like, you
know what, fuck it? And then you got to think
about it. Like I said, the original group with them
was him and Wayne. It was called the Beg's. We

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knew there was no way we could put Wayne with
BEG when he did Choppa City because that nigga was
talking about.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Dope, raw and all kinds of shit. You know, shit,
I didn't even know what the fuck it was. I
was like, Nigga, what the fuck that is? Right? What
this this nigga just said?

Speaker 7 (30:02):
Original music the ship that you're like, wait, this nigga
been naming all of this ship. He been like, you
know what I'm saying, And I was like, I didn't
know this nigga was doing all of this. I'm like,
I didn't know the nigga was and you know, he
wanted them artists where he really is. He gonna give
you the truth, like you know what I'm saying. And
I think with him when he dropped it resonated so

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hard because we we we we wasn't understanding that he
was really talking from a true place.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
All the shit that was on this album and lyrics
this nigga was doing. You know. We was like why
they love this nigga so much?

Speaker 2 (30:38):
And I was like, you know what this he was
at the perfect age, yeah, hip hop consumer.

Speaker 7 (30:44):
Yeah, so it was just like this, this nigga really
really living this ship, you know what I'm saying. So
I think, you know, and so we started going, well
what else you know we got to work around. So
we had this chick Magnoah Shorty, which which you know
and everybody in New Orleans no Magnolia Shorty shared this
song called Monkey.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
On the Deck. But it was a bounce song. Right, Oh,
they love the fuck out of this song. Right. So,
but Renata.

Speaker 7 (31:12):
She was out the Magnolia and you know, and Baby
really liked Renata, like not like liked it, like as
he just liked her energy. Like you know what I'm saying,
because regardless today stopped doing bounce music. Renata was always around.
But Renata was like, it's this other thing in the project.
He kind of nice. He coming up and it was Turk.
So Renata brung Turk around, you know what I'm saying.

(31:33):
And I was like, oh, I like him, you know,
he nice, So let's try it out, you know. And
by then we was trying to figure out how do
we market all of them?

Speaker 1 (31:43):
You know, but we can't.

Speaker 7 (31:44):
And I'm like, well, how about we make them a
group and then start marketing them one by one?

Speaker 1 (31:49):
And that's what made the Hot Boys, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (31:52):
I'm like, instead of going like one at a time,
were gonna make him a group and then we'll start
chipping from that group and let everybody have their identity,
you know what I'm saying. And that that formed into
the Hot Boys. And from there we were just like,
who is the one that resonates?

Speaker 1 (32:10):
You know more?

Speaker 7 (32:11):
It was Juvie like y'all saying Juvie, it was something
special about Juvie around that when motherfuckers was just like, bro,
this dude juvenile whatever, This dude juvenile kept coming because it's.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Just like he represent it felt like as a consumer,
as a fan, it felt like he just represented the
entire South.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
They brought elements of where everybody can relate to it,
whether you was from New Orleans or Atlanta. It's just
like the realness of the hood. Yeah, you give what
I see.

Speaker 7 (32:42):
A lot of people think that the deal when we
when we when when we signed with juve on Universal,
a lot of people think it was juvenile, you know,
four hundred degrees that.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
It wasn't that. It was the big timers.

Speaker 7 (32:54):
The big timers, you know, Like the reason why they
made us stop with the Volume one was we was
already gold when we did the deal, so you know,
they was talking cocky shit. They was just like, we
don't need y'all fucking money, you know what. So if
y'all don't give us some money, y'all got to give
us some real money. So they was like, Okay, this
is the deal. Take that shit off the shelf and

(33:15):
give it to us, y'all can't make no more money
off of it.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
So that kind of put it in limbo.

Speaker 7 (33:20):
And while we was waiting, we was doing fucking on
Juvi's album and we was finished. I was like, Man,
we finished with this, how about we just moved to
Juvie's album? So whatever is going on? I'm like, because
while we got this window and the hype was they
signed this deal for fucking.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
I don't know a zillion dollars. So I'm like, while
we got this fucking hype.

Speaker 7 (33:39):
I'm like, in the world is paying attention, Let's focus
on Juvie and four hundred degrees dropped and the rest
is fucking you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
That's one of them ones where people say no skips, yeah,
because it's like that motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
It's like a movie, all them songs.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Now, as the producer, bro, where was your what was
your mind stake while you cooking this shit up, putting
this album together, engineering this watching but like your hands
always into music.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
I always.

Speaker 7 (34:08):
You know, that's crazy because I never really get to
say this. And you know, we had some shit earlier
to day with Ghip and I was telling him the
whole some of the recipe for four hundred Degrees was
Rico Wade you know what I'm saying, and how Outcasts
and Dungeon Family was making songs because a lot of

(34:28):
my production was kind of like just eight O weights
and snares and sound effects, and I was like, well,
when I'm doing this shit, I'm like, I wanted.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
To be musicianship.

Speaker 7 (34:39):
I wanted to be some shit that motherfuckers was like
this nigga really thought about these songs. He really thought
of how he was gonna do it. So at that time,
the biggest thing we had was Outcasts and you know,
and a lot of it was we was like this
the blueprint right here. I'm like, these motherfucker's jamming. So
I'm like, this shit gotta be jamming. And also the

(35:03):
pressure of the South got something to say, Hell yeah,
you know what I'm saying. So we was just like, okay, y'all,
y'all taking us for a joke.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
Y'all think we playing. So I was like, we're going
in on this one man. How what like sequencing?

Speaker 13 (35:16):
Though?

Speaker 2 (35:16):
When you got the single the Juvenile for the four
hundred Degrees the High, right, like when you was making
this beat and you knowing this shit don't sound like
nothing that's out.

Speaker 6 (35:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Did you know this shit was about to fuck the
whole South?

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (35:30):
Yeah, He'll tell you that. I got on everybody nerves.
You know what I'm saying because I'm the one who
manifested you know. And I'm not saying like that in
a cocky way, but I believe that kind of shit.

Speaker 11 (35:40):
You know.

Speaker 7 (35:40):
When I was making this shit, I was like, Nigga,
this shit, and Nigga's like, damn, Nigga, you you you
you ain't gonna shut up. Fuck no, I ain't gonna
shut up. This shit gonna be around for forever, you
know what I'm saying. And they like, Nigga, you tripping.
I'm like, no, I'm not, No, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
You know what I'm saying That motherfucker layer Bruh. It's
like the hook way different from the in the.

Speaker 6 (36:00):
Ball, you know what I mean, asking a question.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Even at the end, it's like you're still hitting them
with the transition and ship.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
You can hear like the slight little back.

Speaker 7 (36:09):
That ass up was the last two songs we did
on this album, and we did them.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Believe it or not. I was beating on the fucking
we went.

Speaker 7 (36:17):
We was in Nashville and we went to a restaurant
and I started beating on the table doing the beat,
and this motherfucker start doing that. He was like that
she was a bigger ass band, Huh, that she was.
And I was like, bro, bro, and he was like, well.
I was like, keep fucking doing that. Check let's go.
We need to get the fuck out of here, back
to the studio.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
And he was like you. I'm like, yes, do that
and I'm like bro, and he it was a joke.
That ship was literally a joke.

Speaker 6 (36:41):
You know.

Speaker 7 (36:42):
We had a restaurant and I'm beating on the table
and he rapping and he's saying that ship And I
was like, Bro, that right there, that's the fucking you know.

Speaker 12 (36:50):
What I'm saying, crazy Bro, That's what When y'all came out,
it was like our range.

Speaker 6 (36:57):
We ain't going outside or out of no other st
unless you got family. So we didn't get a chance
to see what other people look like. So when y'all
was on stayright and that, y'all.

Speaker 9 (37:07):
Was like they used to come in and bring the
TV into the classroom. We can't even watch BT. They like,
look when this song come on, y'all gonna get hyped,
but I want y'all to ship the fuck up.

Speaker 6 (37:19):
We're like, yes, ma'am man, what from the nine to
nine to the two thousand?

Speaker 1 (37:23):
We just looking and we just like we second grade.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Then it's like when y'all shot the video, you know,
all them projects, and it's just like that was our
first time getting to see that right into the hood,
like all these are really that's what y'all put us
on game.

Speaker 7 (37:44):
But but a lot of that I remember the first time,
like we went to New York after shooting high and
other places like you know where it was on like
maybe West Coast or East coast. The motherfuckerss like what
did y'all get the props to do that? It was like,
now that's really our hood, and it was like, get
the funk out of here, that's what it's like.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Y'all really stayed there and it was like, fuck, it
was like it's a motherfucker feeding the dog, but lonely.

Speaker 7 (38:15):
That's all that. You're like, yeah, this this is some
real ship, and you know, and you got to think
about there's times where you forget that and somebody might
do it and the shock value of it bringing you
back to a time where, you know, for Trinidad James,
when he did the video, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
He was I was like, God, damn, this is what
the hood used to look like.

Speaker 7 (38:38):
I'm like, this motherfucker walking around go all up, rubbing
a fucking little puppy like you is like this fucking
we forgot this, We forgot because we.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Haven't seen nobody embrace the hood like that in a
long time.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
Like Nigga, I'm happy right here. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (38:55):

Speaker 1 (38:56):
It wasn't.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
It wasn't.

Speaker 7 (38:57):
It wasn't in every video. Now you see you you
made it already. We don't know you, but your first
video you made it.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
You know what I'm saying, You already made it up already.

Speaker 6 (39:08):
Damn you're the road runs on your video.

Speaker 7 (39:10):
One of the one of the things, you know, and
one of the things like baby change because it was
just that Nigga is.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Baby, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (39:19):
And we we we the the more and more we
we grew, we got to see baby turn into the
number one son.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (39:28):
Because one of the things that I was big on
with the early songs. You know, I would always say,
like some ship like Nigga, they got most civics, then
they got bentless. So I'm like, we we we we
are for the masses. We're gonna talk ship, but we're
gonna keep the ship simplified, you know. And if you notice,
in the earliest ship we had Chrysler three hundreds, we

(39:50):
had PT cruisers. It wasn't like it's a Chrysler three hundred.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
That's the ship that made everybody want to.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
It was a big mock, but the it was that
was affordable. You see what I'm saying because had the
PT crew. Everybody want crew. But the thing to the
masters could get them niggas was whatever you want. It worked.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Now, look, I gotta do this for the online community.
I told you we was talking when we was riding
in the in the sprint. I was telling you I
always watched the ship about the New Orleans like street legends.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Bro. So I got to ask you about a couple
of people. Okay, kill a Stone Stone by yeah, Bro.

Speaker 7 (40:51):
Stone definitely what I'm gonna even tell you stories while
you're telling me, I'm gonna just tell you how fucking
crazy like you know Stone Legacy was one night we
was in the House of Blues, right, and some ship
jumped off Da Da da and he bumped into this dude.
It was a young dude, little young dude that didn't
know him right, and he stepped on the dude footing.
The dude was like, motherfucker, bitch ass nigga. He said, hey,

(41:14):
obviously you don't know who I am. She said, I'm
gonna forgive your little man. Obviously you know what I'm saying.
You can't know who the fuck I am. You cut
up like that, and the dude came back with like
four more of his fucking friends and they was like,
mister Stone, oh my god, he didn't know, bro, he
didn't know please, please please, and he had to laugh

(41:37):
his fuck himself, you know what I'm saying. And I'm like, yeah,
that's when you got a crazy ass fucking reputation, bro,
like you done shook this whole fucking club up, because
because they was like, boy, you ain't niggas was telling him, boy,
you ain't gonna make it home.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
You don't know who the fuck you just talked.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
Did you always hear about killing Stone Man with the
big bags? Of money and all this.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (41:57):
The crazy thing is all of these dudes had sense
of hum was doupe, but that was normal. That was
normal ship in New Orleans. You grew up with killers.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
Let me ask you about this one face from the mill.

Speaker 7 (42:08):
Oh yeah, face fucking man, This motherfucker ain't have no
fingers man, No, yeah, bitch rugg yeah knobs.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
I saw now.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
They said the nigga took the pop stick so he
can use it.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Yeah, nigga shoot the choppers. Yeah, take that bitch to
his finger Yeah, no, no fuckings. And I was like, bro, yeah, nigga.
Man from what about Me Ball? Oh, me Ball?

Speaker 7 (42:42):
That nigga used to dress up like a woman. But
he was a drug added you know what I'm saying.
Think Me Ball is in prison right now.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
But Me Ball he was. He was.

Speaker 7 (42:50):
He was known for he would dress up like a
woman and come and get you and I'm like, it's
not a woman.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
You know what I'm saying. He would come to a
block party and grab the mic.

Speaker 7 (43:04):
You know, because all these niggas knew me, you know,
they could be like, man, give me the mic, MANU
help nigga say hey man, if y'all don't give me nothing.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
We're gonna have a good time.

Speaker 7 (43:11):
Now if y'all niggas put some ship on the table
and we could go back to having a good time.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
How y'all want to do like that?

Speaker 9 (43:17):
Yeah, get on the bar, black word man, y'all just
getting put some money on the table.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
Just give me a little sup.

Speaker 7 (43:23):
So we can so we can in your face, damn
but you name all the killers in your wraps, oh
them niggas. That was the They had the original Matt
Black bruk before Matt Black was even made, you know
what I'm saying. And this this documented and when it
was locked up, they had a black truck that used
to go to the arm come through the projects and
in front of that bitch had homicide painting it all

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it and they had the little windows that slide.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
If you've seen that bitch coming through the court way
and somebody was gonna get.

Speaker 6 (43:51):
It at a time like that, then y'all succeeded.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Yeah and escape. Yeah, like that was on ship.

Speaker 6 (44:00):
It was normal ship. But at that time, like even
the Han video, like just in that breezeway.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Man killers in that.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
Like Jumie, please get out that breeze. I gotta ask
about Soldier Slim.

Speaker 7 (44:14):
Slim kind of had the same reputation as well. But
it's just like I said, a lot of these dudes
had sense of humans. If they knew you, you know
what I'm saying, and you could joke with them, clown
with them and all of that. But if you didn't
know them, don't funk with them, you know what I'm saying.
And I had people that was like other DJs that
might have came from different places, that like, hey, man,
put me on because I know the niggas paying you

(44:35):
a lot of money, the drug dealers. I'm like, okay,
I throw you out there, and and you and this
nigga arguing with one of them niggas about the money. Man,
when are you gonna give me my fucking money.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
I'm like, hey, bro, don't do that. Don't do that.

Speaker 9 (44:52):
Yeah, in one video I love with so just living
beg when they're in the studio.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
Oh they're recording that joint right before. Yeah, it was
Slim kind of bounced around or a lot.

Speaker 7 (45:03):
Slim was signing to everybody, not officially signed, but he
did records with everybody. It'd be ad cash money one
day and the next day he had no limit and
then he'll leave no limit. Then he fucking with KL
whatever KL and them doing, and nobody ain't never said
nothing because it's Slim, you know what I'm saying. So
it's just like, God, damn Slim, who you really side with?
And then you been working with Max since he was Yeah,

(45:24):
Max was about nine, I think like nine. Yeah, and
Mia was in a group with us when when she
was young. Yeah, we had Max stop through hire Man.
What was the name of y'all group all New York
incorporated with Mia. It was a dude one of my
homies from New York who he was the one who
came with like the real DJ shit, Like I thought

(45:45):
I was a DJ back then. I just had a
few little shit. But my homie Denny came from New York,
you know, and he grew up under Cut Creator and
you know and jam Master J and all, so he
knew how to transform and all of that shit. So
we was like man were getting with him, and he
moved in my neighborhood. So me and me and my
homie w we we joined. That was whit cousin, So

(46:06):
we joined with him. And Mia was going to a
Catholic school at the time, and Mia got in trouble
with some ship and she had to go to She
stayed in our neighborhood, but of course she didn't go
to school with us. And Mia got in trouble then
they put her in you know, she got she had
to go to school with us, to the school that
we went to, and of course, you know, Mia just
lit up like we was like, well, you know your

(46:27):
ass rap and she's like, yeah, I wrap, you know
what I'm saying, Like, well, come on, fuck, come get
down with us.

Speaker 6 (46:31):
Getting the crew all the bad kid or the Catholic school.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Yeah, she dons up.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Oh I gotta ask you about.

Speaker 6 (46:43):
You put me here praised in Jesus.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Who is that little dere Oh yeah, bro.

Speaker 7 (46:48):
Derek was actually one of the hot boys, you know,
and Derek was on baby them nephew like you know
what I'm saying, But ship Derek was fucking boy. He
was a monster too. Derek had a few under his belt,

Speaker 1 (47:00):
So it's like.

Speaker 7 (47:01):
Derek at the height of the rap shit when when
motherfuckers started liking Derek, Derek was like, boy, fuck this,
I'm out here, I'm in the streets, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
And you live by the gun, you die by the gun.
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (47:14):
But Derek had potential of you know what I'm saying,
being something because there was a lot of people that
liked him and it was kind of like the crazy
thing is, yeah took Derek Price.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
Yeah, well I know you've.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Seen uh gangster he got a podcast yeah around him.

Speaker 7 (47:35):
Yeah, Bro, the crazy thing is even young me and
Gatest used to always rib Bro, That's all we used
to do was crack fucking jokes, you know what I'm saying.
And I never I knew about his background, but that
never came and surface with us being young, you know
what I'm saying, because we would always just fucking crack
on each other whenever we saw each other, you know

(47:57):
what I'm saying, Like it would be like a fucking
ribbon session.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 (48:04):
I seen y'all died theses And there was a lot
of people, you know on all the podcasts that say
that they were like, Man, if you knew many young,
you've seen that motherfucker start ripping you, Like, you know
what I'm saying, But motherfuckers knew.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
That about me, like you know, and when you knew
if you knew them dudes.

Speaker 7 (48:18):
You know growing up, they was just them type of
people like you know that I knew who could play
with him and who couldn't play with him. But I
definitely wasn't gonna say no ship that I'm gonna rip
you where you're gonna get mad.

Speaker 6 (48:32):
I've seen y'all died the verses. Yeah, how they was
even though it was in La Vegas, I.

Speaker 7 (48:38):
Kind of bro that should need to be here, New
Orleans somewhere. That what was weird about that? First of all,
it was good for the culture. It was good that
we could show that no limited cash on stage. Yeah
you can shut a stage and there's really never been
no beef And I don't I don't know you know
how all of that really kind of came or whatever.
But the crazy shit is we've been seeing each other

(49:01):
all of our lives, Like you know what I'm saying,
Like I would literally when they were signed, like when
Mia Matt kal fiend any of them when they were
signing the No Limit. If we went out on a
Friday night, we saw each other at the fucking house
blues or something and we all hung out.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
And had drinks. But I get it. You had to
be lost to your side. I had to be lost.

Speaker 7 (49:19):
But we never really had no internal beef and no
shit like what motherfucker's like, Man, maybe they want to
kill each other, you know what I'm saying. It was
good to keep that stigma for business because motherfucker's like
many you know, but everybody knew each other. We all
grew up to fucking together, like you know, especially in
New Orleans. It's a small little city. So whoever did music,

(49:39):
that's where you hung out with. Motherfuckers who did music,
you know. But to do that with I think what
was it going on? It was something going on. There
was something when we was doing that. What was the
shit called Jeff when the versus the complex con So
the thing was that crowd really wasn't our crowd. That

(49:59):
was people who kind of got in because of that.
That was part of the sale of the ticket that
they was going to have all of these free concerts.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
And nothing against them because thank.

Speaker 7 (50:09):
Y'all for doing it in the paycheck, Thank y'all, Bike
can think you It wasn't the crowd to me that
deserved that.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
We should have did that ship somewhere were in the
Dirty South?

Speaker 6 (50:23):
Part about it still can be done?

Speaker 1 (50:24):
Yeah, well you know we bring it back on y'all. Yeah, yeah,
I'm the city just deserved it.

Speaker 9 (50:34):
Like you said, like it's cultural based, like it shows
like first of all, we're from here, and it showed
like look at all all the things we overcame. Now
all the things we overcame, Look what we've done for
the city and the world.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Now, Digge want to ask you this on here because
we were talking about it than you said, like you know,
you were like in in with cash money for so
long that you didn't really get.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
To work outside the circle.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
Yeah, so when you did get to go outside the
circle and find out that the whole industry like shit,
I've been trying to give it.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
Yeah yeah, what was that like?

Speaker 7 (51:07):
Just to know that you like, amongst your peers that
they thought I was with and shit, I even want
to ask y'all this, have you ever experienced that? Because
when you with you know, shit, I know, like y'all background,
and I'm explaining it so y'all could get like where
y'all came from, and sometimes when you leave where you
come from, you got motherfuckers who man, you ain't gonna
make it without that. You ain't gonna make it without

(51:27):
that machine, you know what I'm saying. So when I
when when when I stepped off from cash money, I
had a bunch of motherfuckers going, well, you know, damn dude,
you know that's it for you. You're done, you fucking done,
you know what I'm saying. And my first shot at
it was cheezy and then what you know what I'm saying,

(51:48):
And when when that was me leaving, you know what
I'm saying. So and one of the things that kind
of detored me a little bit when I was doing
and then what there was a nigga in the corner
telling Jezu like, man, that boom boom clap ship nigga,
that ain't gangst.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
The sheep, you know what you know? So so, but
this nigga laying hell and this new.

Speaker 7 (52:18):
People to me, I don't know, like I know Julie them,
you see what I'm saying. So I don't know if
he gonna take this dude word for it, you know
what I'm saying. Uh, you know, he gonna let me
and and he was like, hey, man, O g was
saying like, hey, bro, Nigga, this is gonna be the
biggest part of the song. And the bigg boss I said, Bro,
this is gonna be major in this song.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
That song, it's about financial literacy and getting a business
player us down.

Speaker 14 (52:46):
All the step I almost stacked my float and then
what then I'm gonna stack some more?

Speaker 2 (52:52):
What clothing shop?

Speaker 1 (52:55):
When I do my came don't shop ain't open right
red and my aunts.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Just what I need and I'm about to invest the rest.

Speaker 7 (53:07):
And let me tell you all, Nigga said boom boom,
he said the sound of thing.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
That was him fucking with us, letting us know we
do because we like this beat so hard. Like Nigga,
all I.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
Did was boom boom, clap. Yeah, I had to. I
was like, now, this is what's crazy.

Speaker 7 (53:27):
So Boys in the Hood was on tour, you know
because Jesus with that, and they last stop was New Orleans.
So he hit me, he said, hey, bro, are you
coming to the show. And the song had been out
for I think like two weeks. You know the song
and you know, and I'm trying not to pay attention
to it because I'm like, man, I don't know if

(53:49):
this is gonna go good and fucking bad.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
But I did my thing. That's that's what I was fit.

Speaker 7 (53:54):
But the song had been out for and so he
hit me and he said, hey, bro, I'm gonna be
in New Orleans. I'm doing the House of Blues. Are
you coming? And I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna come. So on,
boys in the Hood on stage, they performing, you know
what I'm saying, and they do their last song and
you know, the fucking stage go black, like you know
what I'm saying, And he had a fucking you know,

(54:16):
like that five heartbeats moment where you know what I'm
saying that nigga did with Flash Dick. You know what
I'm saying, was like, yeah, it satin's me that I
have to leave the group, but this is my new song,

Speaker 1 (54:29):
And that motherfucker came.

Speaker 7 (54:31):
On and the crowd went crazy. Bro, I was crying,
I ain't gonna even lie, you know what I'm saying.
That shit made me feel like, yeah, I'm gonna be
all right. Yeah, I'm gonna be all right, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (54:41):
You seeing that nigga again, who said the boo boo
shit I see you low down, man, and I bet that.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
He caught it. Now we will be remiss.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
And I ask you about this since we're in Atlanta,
and this is just having to be on our close friends,
favorite rappers. Yeah, you and Tip get together, y'all.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
Y'all we knew special shit.

Speaker 6 (55:04):
Ye yeah, always yeah, always yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
Away.

Speaker 7 (55:08):
I think what it was with Tip, bro, I always
looked at Tip like a little brother, you know, from
early on, from I'm serious, you know, when Tip would
do shit, you know, I would call him and get
in his ass a body like you know, like you know,
like I promise you could probably tell y'all. I aggravated
him sometimes cause I'm like, Nigga, while you out here
beefing with these niggas, man, leave that bullshit alone, get

(55:30):
out the streets, and a nigga like damn fresh Bro,
there you go with that shit. And I'm like, Bro, Nigga,
you are a star. I don't know if you know
it yet, but you're a star, you know what I'm saying.
So I always looked at him like little brother, like
you know what I'm saying. So, And I even tried
to get Tip signed the cash money, like you know
what I'm saying, and you know, I brung him over there,

(55:50):
and of course, baby, them being so super New Orleans,
they didn't see it.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
You know.

Speaker 7 (55:54):
They were just like, I know you like this nigga,
but he ain't from where we're from. And I'm like, bro,
this dude is the few, you know what I'm saying.
And to watch Tip turning too, you know. But but
even when that happened, I said to him, Hey, bro,
I'm sorry it didn't work out, but whenever you need
me or whatever you need me for, I got you, dude,

(56:14):
you know what I'm saying. And of course the first
thing you know, I did was the greatest, you know
what I'm saying. And when I did that song, he
was like, Nigga, ain't the man it fresh?

Speaker 1 (56:26):
I won't.

Speaker 7 (56:27):
I want the fucking horns, Nigga. I was like, well,
let me get this one off. Let me get this
one all up, a double back, you know what I'm saying. Now,
this just happened, you know. And so I was just
talking to Tip nigga. This was what two days ago, right,
and we was talking about how top back came along, right.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
Who was the one that passed on the beach Juvie, Yeah,
Jewy passed on Top.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (56:55):
So I did Top back for Juvie and Tip had
done the hook. I said, hey, Bro, come by Tip Studio,
come hear this song.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
I got a banger for you.

Speaker 7 (57:04):
He came in that bitch. He was like, I don't
like that ship. That ship too loud. You know what
I'm saying. It was like, man in Fresh, I'm gonna
show these niggas what to do with what are your peep.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
You know that's what you're talking about? Knowing what.

Speaker 7 (57:27):
Listen super Because he was like that Nigga don't like that.
I can have that, Like you have to have it, bro,
So what does the nigga press recalled? That was the
first thing that nigga said. I'm gonna show these niggas what.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
To do when you do get calls like that, when
people want you to come and produce a record for
M Do they want you to come with some ship
you already got or.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Do they want you to cook it on the I'd
rather make it on the spot.

Speaker 7 (57:58):
Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying, because I'd rather
find some shit that fits your personality because I didn't
grow up doing that shit like that where you send
somebody some shit. Well, I'm like, nah, bro, let's make
this ship. That's cateryage is crazy up. Yeah there, I
got a bunch of beats, you know what I'm saying.
But I find that I don't really have nothing to

(58:19):
me is a hit that I sent somebody. I don't
have no songs that I sent to somebody. You know
what I'm saying. Why, I'm like this, motherfucker, you know
you killed it because I wasn't there to produce it,
to say, hey, you need snare rows right there.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
You need to drop this part out. No, that shit
is important to the song. Now, let me ask you this.
Do you work with up and coming artists?

Speaker 2 (58:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (58:42):
Yeah, But but this the thing that we just said.

Speaker 7 (58:46):
It's hard to get an up and coming artist to
understand what a producer do when they used to beat makers.

Speaker 1 (58:53):

Speaker 7 (58:54):
They don't want you to tell them like, hey bro,
you could do that better, or that song don't fit this,
like that's that's not what this sound like.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
You know.

Speaker 7 (59:03):
Yeah, it's like, hey bro, that's what you got me for.
You got me because this is my job. This is
you know, so it's hard to get somebody new to
do that. And there's there's something that I always say,
where fuck up at See if you're a rapper and
you picked up a drum machine, I'd be like, it's
over this nigga. He done, because I'm like, now you're

(59:23):
doing this job. This is not your job. Nigga write
the wraps. When nigga being there talking about man, I
made my own beats, Nigga, I just I just need
you to there's a few niggas that could do it,
but there's a lot of niggas who can't that think
they could do it. And you just be like, oh, man,
this nigga got a horn, This nigga got a drum machine.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
And I'm like, bro, you you fucking up. Bro, concentrate
on the man.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Hold up, nigga, you don't get him Trump.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
Nigga like, I'm gonna play you five of my beat.
So I'm like, okay, so hold on.

Speaker 12 (59:56):
I'm still stuck on the other stood right on his
on his t your top back story right because when
he asked you to come back and now all love
him in the head at the same time, Paul, Yeah,
cause he said, Nigga, I want one of the beats
with the horns, and.

Speaker 7 (01:00:10):
All I can hear is.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Like deliverately all right. I got the horns.

Speaker 6 (01:00:23):
Because I'm in a band.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
So I did that ship at Tips Studio.

Speaker 7 (01:00:27):
So what was so cool like after that was that's
another after I left Cash Money, you know, Tips place
was always home.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
Grand Hustle was my my home.

Speaker 7 (01:00:36):
That was my y'all might as well say I was
signed to Grand Hustle because I was always there.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
You know what I'm saying. We didn't know. So I
was also when I I did that fucking beat, you know.

Speaker 7 (01:00:46):
But I was like, hey, bro, I'm doing something for Juvie,
you know, because that's my nigga, still my nigga man,
and Jevie was signed to Atlantic at the time.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
Juvie was like, I don't I don't like that.

Speaker 7 (01:00:55):
And the crazy thing is, like I said, two days ago,
this is me Juvie and him having this conversation that
nigga said, My bad bro, I fucked up on that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
Rack.

Speaker 6 (01:01:16):
Yeah, that little came together.

Speaker 7 (01:01:19):
I was always I was always champion for you know,
with with with With, I was like, nigga, you and Tom,
I'm like, y'all got something special.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
The same way me and Julie had something.

Speaker 7 (01:01:29):
I'm like, I'm glad that we got some hits under
our belt, me and you, But I'm like, Toop, is
your fucking dude?

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Yeah, I love Tip with Yeah and the ship he
do with you and him for real?

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (01:01:44):
Nice?

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Nice?

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
Nice to show him the way.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
That beat me in.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
That.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Hey Fresh, I want to ask you this, bro, when
you when you know you're about to produce a whole project,
is that beforehand or is that something that just ends
up happening.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
That's what ends up happening, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (01:02:12):
And I'm better at doing it that way because what
we're missing right now is to connect with the producer
and the artist. You know, when you have that person,
even if he picks beats for you from other people,
he knows you know your ship. You know, you take
what's a long career. We're gonna think about it, like,

(01:02:32):
you know what I'm saying. If you take Drake forty
has always you know, picked everything for him or either
done it, you know what I'm saying. And when you
trust that person, your shit gonna always sound like it's
supposed to signically sound. If you get seven producers, that's
bad ass producers, all of them gunning for the single.
So you might get seven of the same fucking songs

(01:02:54):
whatever music sound like right now, instead of getting a
producer who like, we're gonna do some shit about politics
to we're gonna save the fucking wells, We're gonna do
a trap beat, we.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
Gonna do you know what I'm saying, some other ship.

Speaker 7 (01:03:05):
But if you get selling people to cater your album,
you only get motherfuckers who competing against each other. They
forgot that there's other subjects and other ship that we
could talk about and other things that we could do.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
They forgot his art.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
Yeah, yeah, it's art.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
So it's kind of like up to up to the
producer to kind of challenge the artist.

Speaker 7 (01:03:23):
Sometimes you gotta tell bro let me tell y'all something funny, funny,
because we would be like, man, if we was making
a song and I put on the board like, hey
today we're gonna talk about politics, you know what I'm saying,
and all of the ship that's going on in New Orleans,
you know, with corrupt cops and dah dah dah da and.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
Baby got on that bitch, Baby gonna start that bitch
on with my it rings like, hey, bro, we told you.

Speaker 7 (01:03:54):
We're talking about it. So yeah, so he don't give
a funk about what's going on, you know what. So
were just like, hey, bro, we're gonna have to start
moving you either on the intro or something or somewhere
towards the end of this.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
Bugga something.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
Hey talking about.

Speaker 7 (01:04:21):
You know, we was we was on I think it
was Soul Trade one time, you know, and the nigga
was asking us like, so, man, you know what's been
going on in y'all city, you know, and what are
y'all gonna do to help y'all people? And there y'all
you know about some charity work and all of that.
That nigga baby said, nigga, you see these fucking rings like, hey,

(01:04:45):
number one stunn. You know you gotta be my nigga stuck.
He don't give a funk about what y'all talking about.
That bigga gonna talk about his buggy and what's going.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
And man, when when you're part of a family like
that in this turmoil in the family, man, do you
get calls from both.

Speaker 7 (01:05:13):
Said Oh yeah, bro, I think they look at me
like like the glue sometimes like you know, they like man,
hit fresh up, man tell him talk to dude, Talk
to dude, you know. And our ship, you know, like
anybody else. Shit, you know, it's a fucking working progress.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
Like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (01:05:29):
We there's some healing that needs to happen and some
fucking sometimes talk. And sometimes the fucking Internet is an
awful place.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):

Speaker 7 (01:05:37):
Yeah, And I'm like, shit, if you got something to
say to me, man, call me. Don't air that ship
out that way. Use use the internet as a tool,
use that ship as a you know, like this is
this is where you get to market your ship, you
know what I'm saying. Market and make money off of
that ship. Don't make messy out mess out of that ship.

Speaker 6 (01:05:56):
Like you know.

Speaker 7 (01:05:57):
And I think there's something that really really that that
that really needs to be said in a loving way
so so it could be understood. And I need platforms
sometimes to say it, like even like people always say,
will there be another Hot Boys album or will they
be you know, certain things or whatever, you know, because

(01:06:19):
you got sometimes turk dis grunnle about ship. Sometimes you
got beg dis grunnle about ship. You know what I'm saying,
but there's something that both of them got to hear
from Big brother. And I'm big brother. There is a
lot of ship throughout both of y'all careers. And and
and I'll say on BG is doing a whole lot better.

(01:06:40):
You know, he's more receptive to hear me sometimes. But
there's a lot of ship throughout both of y'all careers.
Where y'all was missing. Y'all was missing, you know what
I'm saying. And I and I'm saying that with kindness.
When when you look back at a lot of cash
money pictures, like you know, like important pictures, where was

(01:07:00):
an ELM cover or maybe it was just magazine, a
magazine or whatever. One of them niggas was missing all
throughout the life of this one of them was missing.
So I say that to say that, Bro, this is
the fourth quarter in the world has accepted this. But
you gotta humble yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
A little bit.

Speaker 7 (01:07:19):
We we ont to rebuild. So just so give it
a second, bro, Like, let's rebuild, but don't forget, like
you gotta. It's like any house. You gotta learn how
to build that motherfucker. You gotta learn this shit all
over again. You can't come back with nigga, I'm the man.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
We all learning each other again, like you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (01:07:40):
So in order for this to happen, fuck the internet,
fuck all of that call and let's fix it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
Let's figure it out. And if we can't figure it out,
it's all right. We grown men. I'll go left, you
go right. The world is big enough for that shit,
you know.

Speaker 7 (01:07:54):
But there's things that people that that need you, that
that that need your money, and you know what I'm saying,
and they need to kiss your ass. They ain't gonna
tell you that. They ain't gonna tell you that, bro.
Part of the problem is you gotta humble yourself. Sometimes
it's you, you know, that could be me, that could
be anyone of y'all. But if you really fuck with

(01:08:14):
me as a friend or whatever, you'll tell me that shit.
Don't let me drive off a fucking bridge when you
know that shit fucked up.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):

Speaker 7 (01:08:23):
If you, my friend, tell me, and I think a
lot of us, you know, you gotta surround yourself with
real people, and you gotta realize there's parts of the
puzzle that you weren't there sometimes. So you you rebuilding,
you got you gotta you gotta be comfortable enough to say, yeah,
I gotta rebuild this relationship again.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
I gotta I gotta prove this. I gotta prove that
you know what, I get it.

Speaker 7 (01:08:46):
And in one of the sweet spots is this, all
of us making more money than we ever fucking made
our whole career is don't fucking bro, don't don't waste
that shit on some dumb ass words. Don't waste that shit,
don't wasting time on some yeah on some feelings. All
of us making more money than we ever fucking made
in our life, bro, And it's crazy what they're paying

(01:09:08):
us to be together, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
And what's even more was even more crazy.

Speaker 7 (01:09:16):
And I like to say this to a lot of
black people young and all of that shit because it's
real to me because because I think of my mom
this way. Nigga, what did your mama make when she
was growing up? What did your daddy make? Yeah, you
know what I'm saying, how much did she you? You
make that easily what she probably made a year, and
you doing everything not to do it, not to make

(01:09:37):
it your mama probably had a shitty ass job raising you,
but she did all that she could do and the
best that she could possibly do.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
Pay homage to her.

Speaker 7 (01:09:46):
Bro, you feel what I'm saying, Pay homage to your people,
like you know, when when you can change a fucking
curse when you like you know what I'm saying. Fuck,
we ain't got to be wealthy. We just gotta be
hood rich. That's good enough. If you know how to
If you know how to fucking you know what I'm saying,
well that you're talking about, Yeah, if you know how

(01:10:08):
to balance that ship, Come on, broke, all of us
there you go. Yeah, you can make one hundred thousand
dollars look good as a motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
It is, and you can. And they offering that all
you gotta do is shut the.

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
Fuck up for three hours? Yeah, fuck out you feel Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
Yeah, we'll get back to that other part later on, Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
What the fuck for sure? For sure? Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:10:35):
And it's a beautiful thing to see y'all to get there.

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
Yeah, And I want it, I believe me. I want it.
I just I'm like, but bro, we gotta stop.

Speaker 7 (01:10:42):
And I think some of the truths, like even what
I said right now, gotta be told and it's got
to be accepted in a manner of Bro, you're a
grown man. You should be able to take that from
me and not take it as an insult. Just just
telling you the God's hon's truth. There is a lot
of times that you miss things like you know what
I'm saying, and you coming.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
Back right now.

Speaker 7 (01:11:01):
You have to rebuild that structure. You gotta rebuild that trust.
You gotta practice with us, you know what I'm saying,
because think about it. Fuck, me and Julie been on
the road for forever, but it's hard when somebody come
in and they're like, well.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
I need all of this, and we like, we can't
get you all of that yet. Bro, you gotta earn that.

Speaker 7 (01:11:20):
You gotta earn it, That's all we say it. Humble yourself.
And on top of that, guess what, while you're earning it,
you're still getting what you want. You still getting what
you want. If y'all niggas told me I was the
fourth member of y'all show, and y'all gave me equal pay,
I'm gonna ship the fuck up.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
Y'all want me to chime in every now and then
they'll be like, thing dog.

Speaker 6 (01:11:48):
And what you can make off of it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
Yeah, just just just chill and learn.

Speaker 7 (01:11:53):
Just chill for a second and learn some things, you
know what I'm saying, and then you all the way
in there.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
Yeah, it's one hundred percent finding to operate on some
new information, yes, sir, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
Gotta get that new information. Man, it's that bulld shit. Man.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
I can ask y'all questions all night, bro, but it's
a lot of.

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
People in here, and I know they want to ask
you right here.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
Yeah, ods question what was your process for you making
all those and how's your process changed?

Speaker 7 (01:12:24):
I'm still like the same dude, Like when it comes
to that, I do fuck with technology. I use able
to right now, but I find myself going back to
the old way I did it, like the one two
ready play, you know what I'm saying, Like, I like
the warmness of touching keys and you know what I'm saying,
and the drum machine opposed to clicking the mouse. Like,

(01:12:44):
so my process is the same thing. The MPC to SP.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
Twelve hundred and a whole bunch of analog keyboards like
the ship that I went.

Speaker 7 (01:12:52):
I would buy keyboards like a DJ, buy records like
just and if it was one cool last sound in it.
I knew what that If that keyboard was twenty five
five hundred dollars, I was like, this bitch is gonna
make a million dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
It's one thing in it.

Speaker 7 (01:13:03):
So I'm still buying it, you know. And you gotta
look at shit sometimes like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And
just on learning people ship, learning people where you could,
you know, make it your own, like I think at
the height of me, you know, like when I was

(01:13:24):
just like, oh, ship, like I get it, but something
is changing a little bit, and you know.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
Here comes Jazzy fake you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (01:13:30):
And I learned a lot of shit from Jazzy, you
know where I'm just like, fuck, this motherfucker is phenomenal,
you know what I'm saying. And Jazzy would do ship well,
he'll put his little glasses down and he'll have a
whole bunch of motherfuckers in the studio.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
And if the if the studio dancing, you be going
with it, that nigga, I'm like, God, damn the vibe.

Speaker 7 (01:13:53):
That's that's that's how I gotta start doing motherfucking music.

Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
Producers, y'all, Y'll trade beat packages in sand Yeah, ship
like that?

Speaker 7 (01:14:01):
Who you get shipped from everybody? Back in the G
you could get shipped from everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:14:06):
If I heard some ship for real done and I
like it, I'm like, you know what I'm saying, Oh
hoes and nobody and nobody got.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
Upset about ship like you know, for real? Did what
happened to that? Boy? You know what I'm saying. But
there's a part in the fucking beat the doo doo
do do do?

Speaker 7 (01:14:24):
When I heard it, I said, I said, hey, bro, them'
fucking need a kick in it, like and he said,
make go ahead at it. Just do you know, do
whatever you want to do to it. You know what
I'm saying. And that wasn't a problem, you know, back
in the G. Now one of the one of the
sweetest things was and everybody in this business wish this
around that time, we own all talk to each other.

(01:14:46):
So say if somebody called Jazzy and they wanted to
beat from Jazz, and they offered Jazzy fifty thousand dollars
and Jazzy said no, Jazzy called me, He called Timbling,
he called all. He said, the motherfucker's gonna call you
and offer fifty when you know we need seventy. And
everybody stood on that ship. Yeah, everybody undercut the fucking money.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
You know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, you know what
I'm saying. So that that was the that was the.

Speaker 7 (01:15:14):
Creation of the super producer, you know what I'm saying.
When people was like, these motherfuckers is hitting them over
the head.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
But but we had that that that he.

Speaker 7 (01:15:23):
And you also had that phone call like, hey, bro,
the motherfucker's gonna call you. Don't take that because you're
gonna suck it up for all of us, you know
what I'm saying. And in any other genre of music,
the ship is set up for you to make more
money the next time. The next generation Rapp is the
only one that fucked that up, you know what I'm saying.
It went from we was like, hey, bro, you think

(01:15:44):
about a pharal, you know, you think about a man fresh,
you think about a timbling.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):

Speaker 7 (01:15:50):
I'll put Jazzy there, I'll put David Banner, I'll put
Little John. You know what I'm saying, All of these
calibers of you know this, this just when when I
was doing ship, these dudes was get some crazy fucking
money to do beats, and just overnight we all quit.
We all quit because motherfuckers start doing it for hey,
it's a good look, you know, Like yeah, and I'm like, hey, bro,

(01:16:13):
and we start trying to talk to younger on producers,
going hey, bro, that's not the way to set up.

Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
We set this ship up for y'all to make more
than we made.

Speaker 7 (01:16:23):
You're supposed to do bigger and better for us, you know,
y'all y'all going, yeah, you giving this ship away, you
know what I'm saying. And then you had Ricord companies
calling you like, hey, bro, dude, little dude doing it,
you know, for this so you might want up like man, night.

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
Fucking with that. Man, I'm good.

Speaker 7 (01:16:41):
And a lot of that diluted hip hop because you
knew what a neptune sound like. You knew what a
man at fresh beat sound like, you knew it a
little John beat sound like. You know what I'm saying,
that ship single handedly, you know what I'm saying, was like,
what the fuck?

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
There's no sounding in this ship no more, you know.

Speaker 7 (01:16:59):
And there's a lot of young dudes that got played
where somebody told you it was a good look, and
then when you start asking for your money when you
done had three or four hits, and you're like, hey, man,
I've been doing a good look as long as y'all
been telling me. Now I got four, give me. They
just replaced your ass with another carbon copy. You know,
what is the life expectancy now of a fucking rapper

(01:17:19):
and a producer and hip hop?

Speaker 1 (01:17:21):
You know what I'm saying? Yeah, a hot summer.

Speaker 7 (01:17:24):
Yeah, on to the next tag, just for that summer.
As soon as they ain't fucking with you no more,
damn and y'all you know, think about it in y'all world.
You know, it should be set up for this next
generation of comedians to do bigger and better things, not
to go backwards. And I feel like hip hop has

(01:17:45):
been so deluded to everything they fucking doing is backwards.
And I'm like, bro, you ain't gonna have that shit.

Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
In country.

Speaker 7 (01:17:51):
The motherfuckers make more than what the last generation meant.
They they and it's easier for them too. I was shit,
were just like y'all niggas fighting over what you killed.
They go over you.

Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
You know. One of one of the most.

Speaker 7 (01:18:04):
Craziest thing to me in the world is to hear
somebody you know, do an interview and they like and
they say, you know, like, I'm really a street nigga,
I don't really wrap.

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
Well, get back to the streets, bro. The streets needs you.
The streets need you. Brot get out the way and
let a nigga who want to do this do this. Bro.
The fucking streets needs you. Bro. You know what I'm saying,
This ship, don't I do this?

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
At what rapper impressed you with the process they got.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
In the boot first wing.

Speaker 7 (01:18:45):
You know what I'm saying, Uh, he don't fucking he
been stopped writing raps, ben stopped, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
And the process is weird, is ship?

Speaker 7 (01:18:54):
Because he'll walk around this room, skate a little bit
and say turn on the mic and I might have
four or five beats and he gonna go through all
of the motherfuckers. And I'm like, you thought of all
of this ship a few minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:19:06):
Like you know what I'm saying, And.

Speaker 7 (01:19:09):
We were saying me to be a rabbit library, bro,
And you gotta think about when somebody can take somebody
else beat and own that motherfucker. There's so many Wayne
songs that are not his fucking song. Like you know
what I'm saying, where you're like, wait, that was a
Mike Jones song. He just owned that motherfucker, Like you
know what I'm saying, where where you like? Wait, all
of these fucking songs that's not hit You know when

(01:19:32):
you played the original one and somebody mad at you
for playing the original, why the playing that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:40):
Hit them?

Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
Yeah it's a good hit. Yeah, Like he fucked up
that ice cream paint job he was on that bit.
Then they're upgrades that Beyonce Joe, what's that song?

Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
Would he be?

Speaker 6 (01:19:52):
Like the one I had to ask y'all for the
go findal?

Speaker 1 (01:19:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
The component Yeah, yeah, yeah, dedication one or two one
of them. Man mm hmmm, that wasn't on the dedicated.

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
Secondly, Tip, you know what I'm saying, Tip is the
same way. Yeah, Tip. I mean when he did top Back,
it was kind of the same process.

Speaker 7 (01:20:24):
You know, if something happened when he felt all right,
Julie and he just kind of like pasting and went
there and knocked that motherfucker out. And by the time
we did big things popping, it was the same ship.
He was waiting for me. That boy was helping me
bring my equipment in sut the s up.

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
I've seen that nigga do that. Three verses.

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
That nigga stood damn wrapped all three. He was three
very keen shouting. I'm just sitting there watching the nigga
he in the booth.

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
Yeah, the whole song on.

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
I don't know what what song it was because I
couldn't hear it. I'm in the this nigga went through
three fucking verses. Bro just knocked them ship.

Speaker 7 (01:21:12):
Yeah, he was a three very You know what's hard, though, Bro,
when you're doing that for that ship to be some
big word ship where you just like, God damn, he said,
some ship that's actually intelligent. It makes sense if I
if you told me do a verse and and and
it's ship. It's times where I don't write the ship,
but I know you ain't gonna get no incredible ship
out me. You ain't gonna get no punch lines where

(01:21:33):
you just like you heard that ship like nigg I
got to stopped and write that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:38):
I ain't got like that. You know how that nigga
do that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
Nigga got a lot of music though studio and there
you just started playing ship.

Speaker 1 (01:21:47):
I don't know if this the ship he just.

Speaker 6 (01:21:48):
Did or I heard every damn song ever did.

Speaker 1 (01:21:52):
Man, Yes, sir, what you think about you? You've been.

Speaker 15 (01:22:01):
That.

Speaker 1 (01:22:01):
I think the.

Speaker 7 (01:22:04):
He's the face of the n B A most certain
artists and music is he is a a new Tupac bro.

(01:22:24):
Like what I'm saying, he is equivalent to that. You know,
you could go to jail right and motherfuckers don't wait
for you. They waited for his ass and to see
the following, like you know in concert what he doing.
You know, I'm like, God, damn, this phenomenal. So you
can't take it away from him, Like his ship is
fucking his following is crazy, crazy souper. Yeah, so I

(01:22:45):
think like he to me is is like he is
like a new version of what Tupac was, and he
would dropped music stop, yeah, NonStop. Yeah, we've been in
studio before. We just kind of chopped it up on
some real life ship.

Speaker 1 (01:23:01):
Yeah. Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:23:04):
Do you think it's easier to put an artist out now?

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:23:08):
I mean you I ain't even gotta put you out ship.
You might get an app and do some ship and
you you put that bitch out there, you know what
I'm saying. And the one of the sweet things about
right now is fuck trust yourself. You ain't gotta trust nobody,
because if you put your career in somebody hands that
don't give a fuck about you, you done. You know

(01:23:29):
what I'm saying. And the thing is, you can't cheat yourself,
spend your own money. You're gonna hustle for your own money.
You ain't gonna hustle for my money.

Speaker 1 (01:23:37):

Speaker 9 (01:23:38):
Tell them that investing in music it's hard because you
have to invest in yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:23:44):
You gonna make a song and you're gonna blow up. Yeah,
this ship is, this ship is real. You know, go ahead,
connect between the older artists and the younger artists.

Speaker 7 (01:23:54):
And yeah, yeah, hell yeah, fucking general in general, you
ain't gotta be from Waller is just in general. But
there's something that y'all, I guess nobody fucking never said it,
and it's so easy, and it's in a handbook. A
lot of older artists couldn't fuck with younger artists because
they was working on their own ship. They self. A
lot of older artists was in fucked up deals and ship. Yeah,

(01:24:17):
you know what I'm saying. And a lot of them
niggas disgruntled. So how the fuck they gonna tell y'all
niggas do better?

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):

Speaker 7 (01:24:22):
There's so many older artists that's fucked up, like you
know from yeah, from it happened to them, so they
don't know how to tell a younger artist, Hey, bro,
this shit crazy as fuck them niggas still mad about the.

Speaker 1 (01:24:35):
Last deal and then that three. Yeah, I gotta question
s B twelve hundred. Yeah, I was gonna ask a question.

Speaker 7 (01:24:45):
I was gonna ask, you know, like Claric when when
people have sample your your beats and stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (01:24:52):
I don't know about clarenceon because you know, sometimes we
want your.

Speaker 1 (01:24:54):
Money, but sometimes.

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
It ain't.

Speaker 1 (01:24:58):
Never the law office, I'm like, I want my money
the law officer. Swanson and Thorndyke will be calling Swanson
and Thorndyke.

Speaker 6 (01:25:16):
Yeah, law they on the way.

Speaker 7 (01:25:19):
They're gonna tell you they gonna they're gonna send you
some ship where you're gonna be like, god, damn, this
ship really threatened me. This really good.

Speaker 1 (01:25:32):
One one of my favorite albums, the what's the album?
Don get on? How You Live? Okay? You feel like
that was gonna be a classic or everybody knows, like, hey,
we got my feeling? Is everything to me? Is is that?
You know what I'm saying, I'm I'm somebody who manifest ship. Bro.

Speaker 7 (01:25:53):
I got on motherfucker's nerves growing up. You know, I
would write ship on the refrigerator like I'm gonna make
a million dollars and you know you gotta hate her
as girlfriend. She like, boy, take that stupid ass ship down.
You're doing to make me a cheese Sald put my
fucking note back up there. I need yeah see this
ship every day, Like you know what I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
Saying, young artist, who would you want to work like that?

Speaker 6 (01:26:20):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (01:26:21):
Fuck right now? Damn bro, fuck me, I'm still young.
Fu me, Damn I don't really this is this is
my process. Make me come look for you. You know
what I'm saying, Make enough noise to I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:26:42):
Call your ass.

Speaker 7 (01:26:44):
Oh yeah, definitely, Russell. But ship, even if we fuck
with Russell, we just be having fun. And now Russell
then said, you know, I'm gonna make this ship a business.
So yeah, definitely, you know what I'm saying. But but
the note Russell was like, you know, whenever we was
in the bay, this this was some ship that oh ship,
that's this nigga, and and and I've seen this shit
happen with people that are so important to hip hop. Well,

(01:27:07):
you know, one day you're joking with him, and the
next day they'll fucking start to change.

Speaker 1 (01:27:12):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:27:12):
Change used to hang around us like you know, he was.
He was our homie young. He used to always come to.

Speaker 1 (01:27:17):
The studio, fuck with us, blah blah blah da da
da da.

Speaker 7 (01:27:19):
And then you you checking out some ship, You're like, Nigga,
that's titty, like this nigga rapping.

Speaker 1 (01:27:24):
I'm this nigga snapping. I'm like this nigga slapping like
a stepdaddy. I'm like, God, damn, you ain't my child.
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:27:38):
Ludicrous broke a lot of cash money he was. He
was on Love and Lover on the radio station. He
broke a lot of our fucking records early on, you
know what I'm saying, and just went on that fucking
Cadillac spills Cadillac. I was like this fucking the DJ
nigga from Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (01:27:54):
I was like, get the fuck out here. He went
crazy team he ain't dead.

Speaker 7 (01:28:01):
I was like that niggain't speaking to nobody.

Speaker 2 (01:28:03):
No more.

Speaker 7 (01:28:08):
That went on stupid, so you know, to see that ship,
you know, like that, that's work. All of these dudes
started from. You know, fuck chains And and Wayne been
friends when he wasn't rapping. He just always hung with him,
and you know, and he was telling us. He told

(01:28:28):
Wayne one time, may you know I rapped right, and
Wayne just kind of was like, boy, get the funk
out of here. Believe it, get the funk out of here.

Speaker 1 (01:28:39):
Past the weak and look what I mean on his
own merits.

Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
Yeay, yeah, Shot and chain Man.

Speaker 7 (01:28:54):
In the podcast, it's cool with me, Bro. I like talking,
you know what I'm saying. And I'm playing ketchup right now.
I'm trying to get all of it. Anything that's on
the table, I'm trying to get it, you know what
I'm saying. So all of these these doors that's opening
for me, I'm gonna try them. You know, some of
them ain't gonna some of them not gonna make it,

(01:29:15):
but some of them.

Speaker 1 (01:29:16):
Gonna do it.

Speaker 7 (01:29:16):
I believe in that and success a lot of times
is you you you gotta go through a door, go
under around it, whatever you need to do. But you
gotta be brave enough to go through that motherfucker. There's
a lot of people who not brave enough to.

Speaker 5 (01:29:29):
Do that.

Speaker 1 (01:29:35):
Money fashion.

Speaker 2 (01:29:44):
Faster.

Speaker 7 (01:29:55):
You sound like Grandpa s damn white presidents. I do it, barbacare,

(01:30:26):
But I knew everybody here was black. Yeah, and I
love this ship too.

Speaker 1 (01:30:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:30:38):
But if they called me to do a concert, you know,
and my managers like this is what they I was like,
ship Nigga were Transylvania.

Speaker 1 (01:30:44):
I'm never taking man.

Speaker 2 (01:30:46):
We got you some more ship and your sir eighty
five South Year, Thank y'all did.

Speaker 7 (01:30:52):
Thank y'all. I got a plethora of my South Year.

Speaker 1 (01:30:59):
You like being. I just told y'all, fucker, y'all can't
get rid of me. Man, Yeah, dog man, wonder what
some fresh man oh man fresh already know. I felt
with him a laungry man.

Speaker 15 (01:31:15):
But I think one of my favorite things about the
fresh man we gotta give people, you know, they fly man.

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
Whenever work with.

Speaker 15 (01:31:23):
Somebody, you tailor that sound to not get that person
the damn area they from. Favorite beech you did, and
some of the West coasts can make ten all the
West Coast sounds, and you put many fresh over the bens. Yeah,
same ship with t I made ship victorious. That's when

(01:31:44):
with the horn and niggas.

Speaker 1 (01:31:46):
With the king. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, Bro,
just I don't.

Speaker 15 (01:31:49):
Think people look at the layers of would you be
putting on the ship you be putting out?

Speaker 1 (01:31:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (01:31:56):
So I just you know, it ain't no question. It's
just what your what's your favorite area to dip into?
That's not I guess the New Orleans man, everybody.

Speaker 7 (01:32:08):
I liked, honestly, bro, the fucking that role era of
when when Snooping was on it, when I met you
last night, when all of that ship had a sound. Yeah,
when that ship had when Vic Pippen, like you know,
I was at the club one day, that's when I saw.

Speaker 1 (01:32:25):
Her, this ship looking kind of caddy.

Speaker 7 (01:32:28):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying, That ship, that's what
you That's when you knew what the West Coast song
sounded like. You know what I'm saying. You like, I
knew that I know where this ship comes from. Other
than my I like that ship, like you know what
I'm saying, Because that ship was you could tell it
was a team of motherfuckers having fun. Them songs resonated
as y'all was having fun, making for just popping with

(01:32:49):
the inappropriate ship.

Speaker 14 (01:32:51):
Oh no, she licking both box snoop, she ain't looks
kind of funny. Oh no, she licking both boll.

Speaker 2 (01:33:08):
You like that, you got, yeah, dude, them niggas was crazy.

Speaker 7 (01:33:18):
That ship was a whole movement for a long time
where you was like, and you know it down south,
you could still play them fucking songs. You know, we
don't give up on ship like everybody else do that.
Motherfuckers be like that's old, like she not to us,
put that bitch on we And you.

Speaker 2 (01:33:30):
Know what, I've been telling people all the time, that
was the worst part about the East Coast West Coast
ship because dam I'm saying, we listen.

Speaker 1 (01:33:37):
To everybody ship out like it wasn't the West Coast.

Speaker 3 (01:33:42):
But to find out that the East Coast niggas ain't
funk with us, that she was like God, damn y'all,
Like never we thought that y'all there listening ship listening
to y'all listen, never listening.

Speaker 7 (01:33:59):
This is boy sits at our or.

Speaker 1 (01:34:03):
Anywhere they have another move of guys to come together
and meet music like that.

Speaker 7 (01:34:08):
Oh yeah, yeah, somebody somewhere somewhere cooking that ship up
right now.

Speaker 1 (01:34:13):
You just gotta you know what I'm saying. Bro.

Speaker 7 (01:34:15):
Let me tell you something, dude. And I learned this
from this. This is my brother's, my younger brother. I
learned this from him. And I'm not saying this for merits.
I'm not saying this for points. I really mean this, shiit.
See when when when when when y'all do something and
and and I'm aiming to say that you young and
anybody young in here, bro, y'all gotta pray over that,

(01:34:35):
bro before.

Speaker 1 (01:34:36):
Y'all do it.

Speaker 7 (01:34:37):
Before y'all for whatever you're doing, because there's spirits, Bro,
that there's people that don't like your ass, and God
will get them from around you. You know what I'm saying.
And watch how things happen, so before you go into
you know. And I learned this because because you know,
I got to our group got away from that. When
I got around them, I was like, you know what,
this is what was missing, This is what was missing

(01:34:59):
right here when we did this. Everything was all right
when we did this before the show and everybody acknowledged
everybody and everybody you know, gave it up and said
what they appreciated about them and all of that when
that went away, when everybody was too cool for that.
I'm too cool to be doing that, doga, we ain't
gonna say the preadnum more.

Speaker 1 (01:35:17):
We ain't gonna do that. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (01:35:20):
Everything, You know it's got a way of going shit.
You know what I'm saying, because some shit have get
moved away from you. It might even cost you some money.

Speaker 1 (01:35:30):
You fucked up if you let it back in.

Speaker 7 (01:35:32):
You got a crazy ass uncle that asked the bar
two hundred dollars. You know he ain't gonna pay you back.
Give his fucking answer two hundred dollars. Now, I ain't
never coming back. He ain't never coming back. You moved
him completely out your life. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:35:48):
It might have cost that, but their shit around.

Speaker 7 (01:35:51):
I think with young groups and young people, they don't
take the time to evaluate and eliminate, you know what.
And one of the things, like I said, you got
to talk to the man sometimes and actually get what
was good for me. Keep it around me and it's
bad for me moving move it out my circle. Like
and watch what happened. Bro, You'll have success. You might

(01:36:11):
be You might not even supposed to be in the group.
It might just ship. Something might tell you bro.

Speaker 1 (01:36:16):
You it you it. You're like, Hey, I'm big for
y'all niggas the Toes, Well.

Speaker 12 (01:36:32):
I got I got one pleasure before we get up
out of here.

Speaker 6 (01:36:34):
I know you got a roll.

Speaker 1 (01:36:36):
What

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