TK KIRKLAND in the Trap! | 85 SOUTH SHOW - The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
All this ship came from George Clinton white man. No,
he's black, black, the clap everything.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Yeah, it's crazy. That's more. You don't even know who
the motherfucker is. That's what I'm having about. You know,
I'm not you don't know who Parliament is.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Ship.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Some of the baddest motherfuckers to ever go in the
studio and record anything.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Parliament. Oh yeah, follow that Funker Dollar George Clinton. Yeah,
this was a dude on the plane one day. You'll
be a fan by the time you land. Man.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
My favorite ship still to this day, that damn doctor Funkerstean.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah, that's my ship. Dtor Funkustein and.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Uh, get it up, everybody, get up, Maggie bring.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
When I went to go see d C, I mean
that d C Kiko being for the first time in Jersey.
I was so impressed with his knowledge of the catalog
of music that motherfucking just to drop like he was
like an album. It was the song, got the song,
got the song. I was so impressed. They called their
general accid rock, psychedelic.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Funk, funk. Psychedelic funk.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
Yeah, niggas used to get on stage and do all
types of ship.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
They was fun high high, all tight. About sixty people
on stage, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
And they ever got into the.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
They drop a spaceship about this guy, get off the ship.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
That's how they closed the show. Everybody get on the
mothership and go up here.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Ship was fired.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Uh, nigga come out and perform with a pampa on nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Niggas been doing this.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
Should have been let out the penitentiary and I'm gonna
crazy motherfucker from around.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
The way closed to though.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
If they ain't coming.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
Read about that's what the hell I do yet, I
bet and I'm in it.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Right y'all. Cut them light down, damn about one or
two more not I got hit like in my face.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
I see you.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Were busy saying, yeah, they don't even know.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
That's what Jesus got that ship.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Whatever right now? Mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
But bitches in money that's built the last put in
your ass.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
They changed the game, boy, when this came out.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Stuff, I know this ship was crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
They changed the game. We was in. I knew it
was over all them niggas was singing the song. They
didn't have to say, you know, I was to opening
that ten twelve thousand people taking the whole did the
whole tour was putting the mic out. That's it, dacause
you had the host I had hosted. How was it
during that time when they coming out like I was

(03:15):
fired us? I was building a name for myself. It
was like some rock star ship, right, you know. So
that was good, But my whole career was it's hip
hop though, you know, from n w AT to jay
Z to cash Money to DMX, like anybody that was Nelly.
It got to a point I said, you're not famous less.
I opened up for you because I was bigger than

(03:38):
all them niggas that one time. She was.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
There's just the dopeest hell though, to be on this tour,
This motherfucker is a game changer, right but this n
w A Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a game changer.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Not knowing it though, you know what I'm saying, it
was impactful.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yeah, you didn't know at that time.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
I mean from the changed the game. I mean, I know,
but what I'm saying is just before them, there was
no you know, rap had been out for years. You
know what I'm saying, right, they were the first ones talking.
It wasn't like you everybody else was on con You
didn't know then when that came out, they talking this
type of shit that it was gonna.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Be what it was.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
I'm gonna say we because they always included me. We
knew it was powerful, but we didn't know it had
the effect it has today. If that makes any sense
in fact, then you just go to foot like you
guys won't know how really big you are until you're
in my shoes and other young commedians coming up and
they praising you. Oh my god, you guys must have
been blah blah blah. And then you the O G

(04:40):
and another young comic. Then you really start to appreciate
what you what you've accomplished. Any fightself, you'll see what
you really accomplished. But right now you're just in the moment.
But when you get close to death and social security
size it, yeah, bit said.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
A good life.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
If you can make it to get your social Security
and to get your AARP, you're successful, right That ain't
a lot.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Of people who actually got to work for that close.
It's close to easy man.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
What was he like?

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Easy was funny. He could have been a comedian, word, absolutely,
he could have been a straight comedian.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
He always had a little funny ass song, you know,
and both rat home in my automobile type.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Yeah. He was funny. Yeah, yeah, my life would have
been different than he would have lived because we was
we was gonna start rufus comedy, you know, but he
wound up dying paperwork. Everything was done. So Jerry heller me,
Easy is already. It was ready to go. It was
ready to go.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Man.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
That on theres, Jay said he did he did the
video where he got he played did he played Easy
in the in the.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
No no no, that was a J. Johnson a J yeah,
as a did Johnson.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
But Arne said that he got some well AJ got
some threats or some ship and he had to do
some some ship.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
He hooked up with. He went back with Easy in
them and Sugar was gonna whoop his ass because he
had did something with Doctor Dre and them as well.
But Agent was trying to eat.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
You know how much you know from somebody who was
actually there, how much of the story that we get
now is factual? Which story just the story of that time,
you know what I mean? They hip hop at the
n W as the death rolls that early.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
That was real. Yeah, It's just that I am disappointed
that Sure took it to that level, because you got
to know when you have success, and most of them
had sabotaged themselves. Sugar was my bodyguard, I mean the DC.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
For the accident.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah, before the accident. Yeah yeah, I was there too.
I used to hold all. When you see about the
pool parties, I was the guy who was parties.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Damn.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
It was somewhere over from pool parties. Yeah, pool party
used to be out to chain Dog. Yeah. Pool parties
is amazing. Man. When DC had this car accident, that
was insane and we thought it was gonna get better,
but it never got back, right mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Dang this nigga is it was around?

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Boy?

Speaker 4 (07:23):
He was Yeah, what was right?

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Right? Right? Right? Yeah, it was amazing.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
That's what's so funny.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
It's like, because you've been so close to the rap
game and hip hop, you never labeled yourself as like
a hip hop comedian.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Well, I look at myself as a businessman. That's the
thing I take on. I'm about to show the world
how unique I am as a businessman. And I've always
been a businessman my whole life. I put things together,
you know, like I slipped back and I pay attention.
I watch and I go h and then I assemble

(08:03):
the team and then we do what we need to do.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
You know, what I always thought was funny is that
people don't A lot of people might not know you
can do clean comedy.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Too, so true. They don't know that that's so true
without a And when I book people for my show,
I'm want clean comedians, and everybody gets upset, Oh you cursed,
but they're not understanding that. I call it comedy IQ.
You know, like basketball players have comedy IQU. Football players,

(08:34):
comedians need to have comedy IQ. Whoever the headline is,
the show is based on the headliner. Fat people should
get together in the room before the show starts. Don't
talk about this, don't talk about this, don't talk about that.
So it's everything blends together in comedy. So everybody's not
repeating the same topic because what I try to show

(08:56):
people is it a demonstration. Sit in the audience for
a minute, and by the time the last comedian goes
on and they talk about the same thing. So you remember,
But if everybody has structure, you say this, you say that,
could we all have so much material? Whoever the headliner,
that's his day. Whoever the headline is, that's his day.

(09:19):
You don't destroy the headliner's day. That's his moment. And
when you have you the headliner, you tell her. And
that's why we have to start teaching the other young
conference because they have no structure whatsoever. They just lost.
But then we don't also be in the space where
motherfucker like, just do you. I ain't because they don't know,
they don't see in the game. You know, the game

(09:41):
is structured tradition. It's very important because then everybody looks good.
And then you teach that person business right, that person
learns from you, and then he starts telling yo, we
got to do it this particular way, and we start
right now because nobody is given the young comics game.
Everybody's doing what they want to do and they think
we're crazy.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
Well, where do you place you know, progression in because
a lot of this that you've been doing this for
forty years, yeah, forty one, forty one years, so a
lot of the that's a lot of you know, like
I always say, the extra sketchules that iPad at one point, yeah,
you have to account for, you know, progression. So for

(10:23):
a lot of the things that you know, a young
comic may hear you say, like, man, that was from
forty one years ago.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
We don't don't have to be that way that anymore.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
What would you say to that?

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Because it's here's the thing about life, even it doesn't
have to deal with comedy, just like in general. We
live in a society now where there's no discipline, there's
no structure, and this is the reason why we have
the problems that we have. Because parents had children but
didn't teach them nothing. So when you're not taught anythings,

(10:52):
people try to figure out on their own. Usually just
it's a small group of people. This this thing has
expand to something that I truly cannot explain. So what
you're saying is right. You're going to get people who
say that because their parents, their environment, their school system
didn't teach them how to do their due diligence, didn't

(11:13):
teach them how to structure things, and sit back and
comprehend first before you reply. People reply first before they comprehend.
And we all have knowledge to give people if they
really want to listen. And some people find out too late.
It's too late, but because of us, because you young

(11:35):
guys is you guys are the new generation of this
new thing called comedy. I'm not saying you're the best comedians,
but you structures yourself to be in position to become
the best. Does that make sense? Like you guys are nobody.
Every other comic is winging it trying to get to

(11:57):
what you guys are doing. But I was on your
first shows. I've seen how y'all put the work in
and made it happen again. You know, comics, what they
do is they destroy themselves. They don't have no leadership,
and everybody wants to get an agent or manager to

(12:17):
feel successful as an illusion. An agent and managers good
for certain comics because you have to ask yourself, what
do you want? Do you want to be famous or
do you want to be rich? And I took the
money I didn't want. I didn't believe in auditions. I
didn't believe in sitting there reading and sit standing in

(12:40):
front of a camera and someone has to choose your future.
But I do that motherfucker money was real and that's
the way I went, And I got illmins behind my name.
Low key don't have to flex, don't have to, you know,
And I deal with my past. People bring up my
past a lot talking about stuff that happened in nineteen

(13:02):
eighty two, eighty three. But I've been reverent for years.
So when you're good, people bring up your past and
make it try to devalue you. But I embrace it.
Look what I'm doing forty one years, still doing my thing. Shit,
it's crazy and I'm sixty six years old.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
I wanted to ask.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
You, like, when you first started, what pushed you to
get into comedy?

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Who was that person that pushed you into comedy money?

Speaker 3 (13:28):
And who was some of your your ogs who was like, no,
come to the comedy club and come fuck with us
down here.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
I'm gonna blow your mind. I didn't do it the
way you guys doing it. I went to college, got
a master's degree, I ran track, and then somehow started
getting into the streets. And I think it was on
the track hard. Yeah, don't get it fucked right. There's
some pictures on the end that they got the little
chain on it. Run shout out to snod of High School.

(13:57):
And and where you from? Actually Jersey City, New Jersey.
But I've been around so long, don't nobody know where
I'm crazy? Right? I think I'm from Chicago, Miami, La,
But La is really my base because I left home
in nineteen seventy nine and then I went to Arizona,
so you would say I lived in LA about forty

(14:19):
years from LA. Yeah, exactly, you know what I'm saying.
And then I remember my life changed and tell you
a crazy story. I was hustled, I was making a
lot of money, and I had a beautiful place up
in state, I mean north Ridge on Parthenia. Sound, Yeah,
it was crazy. I was even a comedian. Richard Pryor

(14:41):
lived two doors down from me, damn on Parthenia. So
one night I went out and that's why, Actually did
you have a car with the suicide doors, because I
had one of them back in nineteen eighty two eighty three,
And I drove out because I know white people up
there in north Ridge and this was like real white
and this one gang binging was really hard in Los Angeles, California.

(15:04):
So I got I go out one night and I'm
driving our Sunset Boulevard and I see this party of
the club was called call Us and Charlie's Rose voices,
a lot of people standing out, and I'm gonna copy
the nigga, I said, I'm belonging there so I pulled
in with the whip and there's a lot of people
and this guy came down. He was looking at the car.
He said, Yo, that's a beautiful fucking ride. I said,

(15:28):
thank you. He looked at me and said, my name
is Keenan Ivy Wayne's get the fuck. That's how it
went down. Keenan brings me into the party. Prince is
sitting over there, Charlie Murphy, Eddie Murphy and we are
having a bar. As soon as I get that bar,

(15:49):
six biles Christyle kicking it. So they invited me up
to the house because that's when Eddie was doing Beverly
Hills Cop. So were hanging out pulling just should have
a good time, and we must have hung out good
two to three months, but bad choices of the child,

(16:09):
I could say, you know, looking at now, as a
young kid, money was still doing stupid stuff. And we
all went out one day and we came back and
me and Charlie Murphy was tight even all of school.
But me and Charlie was cool. And I fucked up.

(16:30):
I fucked the stove's watch and it was a big chaos.
And then be being a street dudes, you know, I
was wrong bottom line, as though if answer was about
And then as I got older and became a better man,
became getting my life together structure. Even though you had money,
Just because you got money don't mean you're a man

(16:50):
and doesn't mean you have common sense. But when I
actually got common sense. One day I was just driving,
I said, these niggas let me in their house. When
you lets some might in your house, that's shown they
trust you, respect you. And I did that shit in
their home. So now twenty thirty years later, you know,

(17:10):
pushing the Bentley and shit, and I'm going to a
party Eddie Murphy's and the Roseworce because now after I
started getting in my life together, I wanted to run
back into Charlie Murphy to look him in his eye
as a man, to apologize, because Yo, I need to
tell you this, Like I'm standing there, sir, please, you know,
please to give me. So Eddie is in the Rosewors

(17:33):
in front of me. They opened the door, a valet
right behind him. He got a beautiful woman over here.
And you know I keep a bad bitch breathe on me.
You know what I'm saying. So we walk into the
party and we all in we got pe just like this,
and I walked up to him and said, Yo, that
shit I did as a kid. That's why they apologize.
But see what people didn't know. His whole family loved

(17:53):
me as a stand up. They was tripping that. People
still was talking about it. And I just said, Yo,
just want to just need your blessing and I apologize.
He touched his Sorry, he said, don't worry about that
ship and the rest is history. Though that's how that's
that's how I got in the stand up. I wasn't.
I took that situation and turn the negative into a

(18:16):
positive because comedy wasn't on my radar. And Eddie had
a best friend his name was David Jones. It me
and David Jones was tight, and Charlie Murphy had told
him you can't let people choose your friends. Because me
and him was close, and because of me and Charlie
had that problem. He was making sure he was Charlie

(18:37):
was a good dude because he didn't influence him and say, YO,
don't fuck with that nigga. What he said to him
was that's your friend. You stick with your friend. Don't
let nobody else influence who you choose. Who your friends. So,
I mean, David was hanging out and something told me.
I said, I'm going to try this comedy shit. So
we started writing. And again I'm a businessman, so the
same club I keenan Ivy wamslow Man. I threw a

(19:02):
comedy show there and invited everybody for free, not understanding
the business. I was paying for different stuff. And then
at the end it sold out. At the end we
paid the bills and our profit was two dollars. I
took a dollar, I gave David Jones dollar and the
rest of history. That's how it went down.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
I kept going, how long were you doing comedy before
you like you understood it, like you know the mechanics
of the stage, and then you know the business is
a whole another sade, But when.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
You really blessed to do it? Both because Robin Harris
had a club called the Comedy Act Theater and it
was on forty thirty and Crenshaw. But I was a hustler,
so I had the Anything Street. I had on lock
so we had the Palace up in Hollywood. We had

(19:55):
Burnland Western, lnbach Has When Ricky Harris, Martin Lawrence, everybody
I used to come through. We had Zeno's on Century Boulevards.
But to see the true stories is my crew kept
calmedy alive the street niggas see because we was paying
people the kind of money you didn't like. You would
laugh at it, but back then it was like real papers. Six.

(20:16):
I was like, and I remember we booked Paul Mooney
and my man Shannon shotut to Shannon and like, yeah,
we want to book you for our show. And Paul
Mooney said you couldn't forward me and my man Shannon
pulled out six one hundred dollar bills, tore it up
at half, gave him the six hundred and said you
get the rest of when you get to the club.

(20:38):
Like my crew was like that, you know what I'm saying,
and I ain't.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Fucking with you.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
You just tore that money up there a company half
after Shannon, But you know we we we need take. Yeah,
we was different kind of do. So we financed and
everybody had to come through our club, and I seen
the clubs pop up like back Tuesdays, the Little Vibe,
But it all started because of Rovin Harris. And then

(21:04):
I had like six seven of the club, so everybody
had to work and then I gave it to DL
because I started going tour, So I started I went
on tour d NWA and because d O was my guy,
I gave them all the clubs. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Wow, you got a mean man road work game too. Man,
when did you start putting that together? Like a's a comic,
it's very important that you can move around and hit
different spots and go do different shows.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Man, when did you start developing.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
That type of stage presence where you can go to
New York and then go to LA then shoot down South.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
Every entertainers ain't able to.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Move all year. Yeah, it was just in my DNA
back in the day because I used to fly first
cuts back in the day. But I was a hustler,
like a hustler, but knew how to do certain shit,
and then the comedians couldn't make it. So because I
was in a credit card for all right, I was
paying for everybody's ticket to fly them to places they

(22:02):
couldn't get so they pay me exactly all that. So
I was flying people to get to where they had
to go exactly, so you get it. It may sound
crazy for actually some clever ship.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
Because I mean, you know, I know the road Grand
if you got a little flight hook up or a
little chicken and get you.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
List for one hundred dollars.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
And this is before we'd have nothing. Now, don't get wrong,
I never flew on the credit cards. I was just
reading about that motherfucker money. You know what I'm saying.
But what I teach people is book your tickets months
in the band SEGM when we got the tour dates.
My airline ticket was booked last year, so my tickets
is cheap.

Speaker 4 (22:59):
Talking about being a kid and the things that you
did back then, So at sixty six years old, for
people that watch us, what are some of the things
you had to unlearned to become the person that you
are now?

Speaker 1 (23:11):
What are some of the behaviors.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
I think I had to become more selfish in a
sense and more discipline. You can't let emotion tie you down.
You can't allow love to tie you down. It's good
for some people, you know, some people got to be
in a relationship. I don't have to be in a relationship. Yeah,

(23:33):
my success is based on you got to know your
purpose in life. My purpose to change people's lives, and
I knew that as a young age. I changed everybody's life.
So when I met DL, I put DL on. When
I met Mike Apps, you know something special about them.
I bought them up to New York City Emman Godfrey

(23:53):
around around the same time. Because I was a business fan.
I was thinking twenty years down the line when I
snatched up Sandra Bullock and I snatched up Anthony Michael Hall,
John Luguzamo. See, I had all these people in the nineties,
so it was all a plan. What I didn't realize
I didn't plan for is that everybody started doing their

(24:17):
own motherfucker thing, you know. So that taught me a
valuable lesson. You could have your own plan, but people
got their own plan. So when everybody started doing everything,
I made a great deal of paper. But I wanted
the world to know me as a stand up. But
this is my first comedy tour with comedians ever. I

(24:39):
worked all the time, but I never did tour. I
never did tour because a lot of different things.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
You know.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
It could be haters, it could be agents like me
and Chris Smith, even though that's my guy. Me and
Chris Smith used to bump hiss together because the streets
wanted me, but Chris had to run his business like
a business like if he had none comics and he
making money, he ain't go because nobody represented me. So
he's not gonna put me on the show if he
can make money with another comic that's on his roster.

(25:07):
So I never signed with nobody, but I was just
getting it. I used to put up money. A lot
of people don't know me and my crew. We used
to put up money on the tours that I was
even on, just so I could make a proper I
had to be involved, like that's the kind of person
I was. I had to be involved, and I've always
been that way. How can I put money in this?
To be involved? Even when I look at the war

(25:29):
what's going on? Most people complaining, I look for the
defense contracts that was doing the bombing, and who makes
the bomb? Who makes the bomb? That's in my mind. Who?
Like I saw it on the news, and that's shore
the shooting. But what people missed was that they had
a machine that was shooting lasers because knocking out the
shoot out the sky. I went the chat sheepy Tea

(25:52):
and figured out who the fuck that was, and right then,
by nine o'clock the next morning, I was already invested
in the company. So that's how my mind is set up.
I walk in the room, I want to know who
owns the building? How can I be involved? And I've
been like that my whole life.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
You just did a lot of interviews with Ladd and
this then open you.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
Up to a whole new audience. Man, how you navigating
that after all these years in the game. Now you
got a whole new audience up under the audience you've
been creating for them.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
You guys are my new TV shows. So I'm saying
to you back in our day, we're gonna have your
Hall and David Letterman. That's it. That's it. Now. What
people don't understand is this tool that you have in
front of them, in front of you. This is your
TV show. You don't need to go to Hollywood and

(26:43):
try to be on all these programs. You got your own.
Your phone is your TV station, bottom line. And if
you put the work in, people gonna know who you are.
If you don't put the work in, it ain't nobody
gonna knowho the fuck you are. Right. So, when I
did the breakfast cause because me and Charlamagne go way back,
because me and me and me and Wendy Williams is

(27:05):
tight and Wendy was a big fan of mine, and
Charlemagne was a side kick at that time. And when
Charlamagne blew up, we all had always been friends. And
I did his show and I just for understand what
views was and numbers, and apparently my ship was high.
When I did the show, Blad called me before the
elevator hit the floor, ground floor. He called me his sister,

(27:29):
and I walked right over there from Charlemagne the office
to Blad and Blad rocked it and we've been rolling
ever since. That's almost like ten, fifteen, twenty years now.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
You were talking about being in the streets and being
a hustler, and especially back in the eighties, it's real, Yeah,
you know what I mean. So that means from the eighties
to now, you've seen a lot of indictments. Oh absolutely,
How'd you managed to avoid all of that?

Speaker 2 (27:56):
I've been blessed, thank God.

Speaker 4 (28:00):
Because that's game that a lot of people don't get,
you know what I mean. A lot of dudes see
the streets and see the glory of and don't see
what it takes to be able to even toe that
line successfully.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
So I could honestly say, I was blessed. I remember
when my family in Philly, Junior Mafia, James Cole and
all of us is back in the day, smooth, all
of us.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
I was just about to ask you, who's some of
your favorite hustlers from back in the area.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Well, you know everybody best friend Eric bon Zip, you
know that's like everybody know, that's my best friend. We're
own the house together, you know. So, But Junior Mafia,
they had got indicted and one day, this is when
we had the burners, and one day all the phones
went dead and I think that's the day the fast

(28:51):
tap them. And I just happened to be lucky. So
I was on the West coast and I didn't get caught.
Next to me, you know, to free weeks later if
I was locked up. Yeah, m hmm.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
That's crazy because I mean you you're talking about from
l A. You said the gang banging. Yeah, you was
around when that started, My Junior Black Mafia.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
That's Philly. You're talking about New York.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Then you got BM.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Like, what is it?

Speaker 4 (29:18):
What do you think it is about you that made
all of these different street because that's the street organizations. Man,
It's like we don't funk with nobody but them constantly
open their doors.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
I just think that people, even my stand up people,
was attracted to the ship that I was talking about.
You know, I wasn't doing no lang ship. I was
talking about real ship. The street niggas always been at
the always. Yeah, and what people don't know and they
need to talk about this too. Death Jam was created
because about style.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
What do you mean break it down?

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Yeah? See Tina Graham and what's my guy? That Bob something.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
That man Bob had. We're gonna say prayers a Bob.
But that's what we're going.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
To Okay, and Bob and then called me DK. We
want you to do deaf chair. We created the style
around you and nobody could do it, but I turned
it down. Now it was a bad businesses and I could.
I didn't know at the time you could do both.
So people needed to take the time to google. This
program called More Funny. It came out in nineteen ninety one.

(30:21):
It was the documentary of black comedy and they compared
me to Richard Pryor, Moms Mayble and all that. But
that producer at the time, she didn't know. She said,
I can only do one, and because the way I think,
I always wanted to go. If the comedians went left,
I went right. I never wanted to do what everybody
else did. And when I saw death Jam being televised

(30:46):
and I saw Bill Bellamy had a clip in my
special call More Funny, I was like damn. And then
I couldn't get back on Deaf jam is because Russell
Simmon's credit card had got stolen. Would yeah that watched it?
So Russell Simmons credit cards get stolen, but they think

(31:10):
it's me.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
I would.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
I'm gonna keep real with you, right, but here's but
here's the move though. Watch it wasn't you just got
blamed for its got blamed for it.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Now that's funked up. Yeah, I got blamed for and
Stan Latham, who was russell friend's best friend loved held
that against me. But it was actually my man. The
credit card I stole was actually a gentleman from all
jokes aside Raymond Lambert.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
So you stole another credit card another it.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Was a whole not what that you wasn't still a
credit card? Exactly?

Speaker 1 (31:47):
What what are you looking for?

Speaker 2 (31:56):
I was on the high street? What's the William right playing?
But everything I did, I embraced it. I never ran

(32:17):
from it. I'm tell mofuck it is what it is.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Now.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
Let me ask you this though, because you know, death
Jam opened up a whole lot of street money for.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
The for the urban side.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
What was it like being in the middle of other
what they call the black comedy boom?

Speaker 2 (32:32):
No, No, it was amazing because it took me a
long time to get in the game that way, because
then you had gatekeepers. Everybody knew I was funny than them.
Everybody knew I was funny, but because they got the name,
I couldn't get on because everybody was like, you know,

(32:54):
you steal the spotlight. So I had to put money
behind a tour to get money that way, or get
have a promoter book me and tell them. Don't tell
the motherfuckers I'm on the show, being in Philly, DC.
Carry all of them was on the show, and I'm

(33:14):
out there tearing the motherfucker up, and the light at
ten minutes, they blinking the light because the motherfucker said.
I had the crowd laughing so hard that the motherfuckers
heard in the back and they was that nigga the light.
That's how I had to deal with that. Get get
a nigga light them niggas get I'm not saying DC
carry did it, but them niggas was. And I know

(33:38):
they sit today and watch me and go, how the
fuck the t K pulled the ship? The fuck off
my nigga from this is four generations for forty years,
decade for the I mean you know what I mean
for decades, and then they he ain't working the way

(34:00):
I'm working, not even close, and I'm booking my own shit.
I don't have no agent. I have to stay up
two three o'clock in the morning, make sure I deal
with Paris, make sure I do with Brussels and Turk Belgium,
like I booked the shit all over the motherfucker world,
and I get all the money. That's why I try

(34:20):
to teach comics. You know, comics getting seventy five eighty percent,
fuck back, I get ninety and it ain't no motherfucker deal.
That would be the perfect time to go ahead and
tell him welcome back to the eighty five South Show. Yes, DND, we.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
Always talked big shit on the eighty fast South Show,
but today we're talking even biggest bigga shit. Yeah, man,
he finally done came back. He did come do our
shit when we was in the beginning phase of that
eighty Fast South show. Now for him to come back
and see us living in luxury.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Man, with our own studio, big lights, you know. Man.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
So I'm just glad that you and you came through.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
And your nigga, now you want to here fucking with us.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
We just said that we was gonna sit down and
chop it up, because, man, we still ain't talked about
We still ain't talked about ball the blocking, We still
ain't talked about your philosophy is on life and things
of that nature. Man, we got none other than that
nigga who te tull them up.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Fucking said, Oh.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
Now look at it, man. You you always have been
known to come up with some ship. Bro.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
You got a joke that has turned into a philosophy.
Who raised you?

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Yes, talk about what it did. It started because I
was with something that. Listen to me, I've seen y'all
and y'all dated some beautiful women. I've seen it, you know,
and and this I've been doing it for y'all was born.
But as you get older, it's not about the fat
ass of beauty. Anymore except what's the character of the

(36:03):
woman and the substance of the female. So I meet
this girl in La Digger. The bitch is so much
for fine, and I got a traveling with me a
couple of days, you know, But I was disappointed in
her character and how she think and how she moved.
And one day I said, who raised you? I said,

(36:23):
I needed to meet your parents because I wanted to
know who the fuck sent you into this world unprepared.
And the rest is history. But now who raised you
takes on a whole bigger element because it actually comes
down to who raised you, how you act, how you move,
what you're taught in this world, you know. So I'm

(36:45):
glad that I didn't see that coming. I didn't see
that coming, but I'm glad that it's something that I
came up with and it stuck with the world.

Speaker 4 (36:55):
Who raised talk a lot about the people that you
put on and you mean it's names, yeah, all of
that good. What is it that you look for or
that you saw in these people? Was it any specific
characteristic when you saw somebody that made you say him or.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Her here's the best? That's a great question. The night
that I bought Mike ups to Atlanta. It was another
gentleman standing right next to them named.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
Nod Recipes and our host for show for sure.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
They was both standing together and both Nod was just
as funny and I was talking to him, and when
I said come to New York, Mike was the first
one to say I'm coming. No, I didn't say anything.

(37:48):
Mike said I'm coming. I hooked it up with my
team and I say he's coming, and boom, Mike came up.
I got him on death Jam. I got him in
all the clubs because me and Tina was real tight
and everything is about relationships. Teen I got this young
kid and she said, okay, ticket, we're gonna take care
of him. And then Mike just paid the way he
was doing his thing and doing his thing, and the
rest is history. When I saw DL, I had never

(38:10):
saw him tell a joke. I just understood his character.
I had discernment. It was just something about he said,
y'all have been watching y'all want to do staying up comedy?
And I said, yo, come on. I took him and
maybe in a year he was hosting my clubs. When
I saw Godfrey, Godfrey opened up for me at Old
Jokes Aside and Chicago, and I was late because I

(38:34):
was hustling, so we was counting money all night. So
we just got there like I wasn't too late. He
just had the extra meents. I got there and the
place is packed, and I'm in the back and I'm
watching Godfrey. I said, it's a corny motherfucker. Is that
what I said? And when he got stayed after my shot,
I said, Yo, you need to come to you. I said,
you're a corny motherfucker. I said, but the world going

(38:56):
love you. A week later, niggas w in the U
haul truck driving to New York City and I got
him an apartment with what's the actress to play all
the African roles Byolla Davis. He had apartment. This was big.
They had an apartment in Harlem at by Old Davis. You
look at for the goddamn coming a guy in a mix. Yeah.

(39:21):
And then by nineteen ninety one, I had Godfrey doing
the he was the spokesperson on the seven. I wasn't
even born there. That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
You weren't ninety two, damn, now you did. Let's talk
about the movie career man. You partlated you went from
telling jokes on the stage that actually acting in the movies.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Man, you did Ball of Black and with Cash.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
New Jersey one of the big birds. Man being from
New Jersey.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
What was that look like? Bro? Just from being from Jersey.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
Then it's one of the biggest movies to come out
of there, with New Jersey actually in the title.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Well, the thing about me, I never It's crazy because
I used to do BET Comic View and all these things.
What season of Common View that you did? It was
an early one. I did all of them. Yeah, I
did the first one. I had no idea, but I
did all of them. But the reason I'm bringing this
up and bringing back I never really cared about the

(40:21):
TV movie game for real, never cared about it. My
mother used to get mad at me because she would
be home watching TV and say, why you ain't calling
me and tell me that she was going to be
on I got the checker ready.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
But that's how my mom was. I didn't care. And
then when I studied, I pay attention to the acting actor. Well,
when I do panels, I try to discourage people for
being an actor and the actress.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
Why would you do that?

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Let me tell you why, because I believe I don't
like other people to control your future. And the reason
why I say that when you look at TV and film,
especially if I told you right now, go do her
a paper on a black actor and black actors in Hollywood,
you will come back with a story that will be

(41:11):
very discouraging. But I try to teach people to go
to school, get a skill. You control your own life.
Because acting you competing against everybody because it's black. When
you're black, it's even more rough. We all got They're
all gonna put us on the same role. And whoever
the casting director is, she likes one more. That person

(41:34):
got the job and that's going to create it. Now,
why is this? The illusion in life is when you
see people on TV, you think they're rich, and then
you see a lot of stars they working. Now they broke,
they broke, but they work. Yeah, it's a difference between
working and broke. You know, I see what I'm saying,
Get it, because my goal is how it's not how
much money you make, it's how much money you keep

(41:55):
and what do you have when you leave this world.
A lot of people don't have insurance, so they got
to have go fund me. They a lot of people
got to go into a shelter because they don't have
the proper They wasn't prepared for elderly. Being an elder
got depends on your daughter or your son to wipe
your ass to take care of you. I want when

(42:16):
I touched the world, people listen to me. I want
to prepare you for something that you don't see yet.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
You know.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
My analogy is, can you see down the field? What
is down the field? Most athletes, average comedians, average basketball players,
average football players only see what's around them. Let me
put you up on a game. Joe Montana, Tom Brady

(42:46):
saw the stadium. They can see the field. There was
a championship game between San Francisco forty nine ers and listen,
Joe Montana was playing and Dallas Cowboys and they was losing,
and in the huddle, Joe Matanna came in the huddle

(43:09):
and said, hey, guys, did you see John Candy in
the stands Championship games? Motherfuckers sees everybody in the stadium.
When I'm on stage, some convenience only see the first
two rows. I see who's walking up on the exit, bro,
I see the cop in the back. I see the

(43:31):
security person telling that person that I move. I see
the usher telling the people to move their seats, that
you're in the wrong seat. Can you see the whole venue?
That's when you know you on top of your game.
You got to see everything, not just the small spot.
When you get in tunnel vision, and if you have

(43:53):
never felt it yet, you will one day. That's when
you know you have arrived. But everything opens up and
you see everything in the motherfucker stadium, unbelievable feeling. That's like,
I'm on this tour and I see I want to
get loose soul motherfucker bad because I'm used to doing
the rap stuff, you know. And I remember jay Z

(44:16):
and all of us on the Hard Knocked Life tour
and what blew everybody away was when we got to
La Great Street Crips. The Bloods had the first nineteen
rolls and I had them niggas in the palm of
my motherfucker hands, and that blew their mind. They's like,
how the fuck doesn't that do all the shit? And

(44:39):
that's the effect I had on the world, you know.
So it shows like this to get to now, I
get to share my stories and tell people things that
they never knew, you know, because it's a history that
would have been swept under the rug if we would
have never discussed it like.

Speaker 4 (44:57):
You around man. It just listen to you. You didn't
been all through the Americas and you give a lot
of game. What city would you say you got the
most game out of in all of the travels that
you've been to.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
I would say all of them, because I had hustlers
in Chicago, you know, car Patello bar Slone until about
I record nineteen ninety one. This is for cash, shaft
and all this shit. So my niggas had cash, and
my man Barcelon with gambling in Vegas. Barcelon had so
much bread. He shooting craps one hundred thousand of the

(45:34):
pop losing shit. Listen to me losing the Nick Coors Crew.
This we had to do Western Union. Put that motherfucker money,
blah blah blah. Send him more money through Western Union. See,
then you got every bond Zip out of New York.

(45:55):
You know the Zip was connected with the Puppy Combs case.
But Zip was my before Puffy Puffy jay z all
the more kids when we was coming up, So I
told people the story all the time where they won't
believe it or not see. We used to throw the
cold parties in New York City, mink coats and the
Maury's and all that stuff. And jay Z, the puppy combs,

(46:19):
used to see how we lived. So on my thirty
fifth birthday party, I hired jay Z to open up
do my birthday party. He was late and I told
my guys. They said TK here and I was, you know,
it's cocky. I said, fuck the niggas. They late, dog
talking to my niggas and shit. So Frankie B shout
out to Frankie B. He gives my ears an I

(46:39):
t it's his nigga performed and jay Z went up
on the motherfucker sing that song Dead Presidents, motherfucking audience
lost their mind. And after the show, I took a
knot and took the brother band off and I gave
him fifteen one hundred dollar bills. I don't think you

(47:00):
know when the nigga blew up. They took me on
the Hard Knock Life Tour, and then on the Hard
Night Life Tour, we get to New Orleans. A young
man walks up with me because he saw me in
New Jersey Drive, and he said, Yo, what up Walter?
He said, my name is Baby from castwenty Millionaire. He said,
my artist got this song out right now called back
that ass up. We're about to do this movie called

(47:21):
Ball of Block. I want you to play the cop.
We hit it off. They flew me down. And this
is when Baby didn't give a fuck about money. You
know this niggas carry millions with him in there, you know.
So we're in the trail. He coming with this bag
of money. Is how much I owe you water? I said,
the whole motherfucker.

Speaker 4 (47:39):
Bag man, give me your credit card.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
So this is before Bentley's, when Bentley's First came out.
So Baby took care of his crew the whole city.
They's hanging with us, and we go down on Berbon
Street and Baby's taking everybody shopping and me and ron Berry.
You every know ron Berry does production. He's on all
every toiter that goes out on this motherfucker. And we

(48:13):
stopped at the Bentley car dealership and Baby bought like
five motherfucking Bentley's at one time because we got a
concert that night, House of Blues. So me and Ron
burst there next to the other, say yo, don't look.
You know, you're like a kid. Don't let you think
the nigga might buy your car because he's feeling a
certain way. He said, nigga, don't look at him. Want
to get us something?

Speaker 1 (48:32):
You know.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
We didn't get it there, but it still was funny.
And we drove off that motherfucking park Lite brand new
motherfucker Bentley's dog zooming down to house and Blues in
New Orleans. How was it shooting to move in the
middle of the project, somebody, it.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Ain't no more?

Speaker 2 (48:51):
Yeah, I know, but I'm talking about during that time.
During that time was awesome because when I did that
scene when I was cursing everybody out a J. Johnson baby,
everybody was there. They was and h he's a white nigga,
and the people came out to watch it. To watch it,

(49:14):
it was like a small stadium. That ship was magical.
I'm like a guard in New Orleans to this day.
I was walking down the street one day in New
Orleans and homeless lady sitting down and we made eye contact,
walked around the corner. She started running. She said, excuse me,
excuse me. I said, yeah. She said, can I have

(49:36):
your autograph? I said, who do you think I am?
She said, ball of blocking. It was classic dog. Yeah,
rich history.

Speaker 4 (49:51):
Do you have a favorite thing that you've done thus far,
like that has been most gratifying to you?

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Of all the things that you've done.

Speaker 4 (50:01):
If you had to say, man, this has been the
most beneficial or the most gratifying, would you be able
to say.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
What that was?

Speaker 2 (50:06):
Yeah? I could say that. Just found that out this week,
believe it or that. Me and Mike Gaps were sitting
in the dressing room talking and he has paid the
way for a lot of his friends who got out
of prison, and he has programs and Indianapolis that he
does to help people. And I think about me changing
his life changed so many other people's lives, and that's

(50:30):
a domino effect. And I sat there and I was
I really have to thank God because you don't see
the surface of things, right, You don't know how deep
this goes. And that when I left, I was like, Tee,
you have no idea how deep you have changed people's lives.
And when I see these guys he buying getting attorneys

(50:51):
for their friends because he got he has the money,
the means to help them. And it comes down to
having money. You could have love for somebody, but your money, right,
you can't. You can't save. He changed their lives and
it felt good even with TC. You know, TC worked
for me before he worked for Mike shut out to TC.
Yeah yeah, TC was my guy, and I put them

(51:15):
two together.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
And you remember your first piece of big legal money.
I have money leg And now that you got off the.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Yeah, yeah, your no. I was getting money like around seventeen,
like about seventeen, comedy money. Yeah, but you ain't take
it seriously.

Speaker 4 (51:45):
At first, you ain't understand.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
It because your swag got you into places, like you said,
it got you in the place before everything. But then
that kind of opened up the door for you to
be a company. You see what I'm saying. It was
kind of like, what is this?

Speaker 1 (51:59):
Since this is in front.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Of me, I was getting money, is good money. And
then I was funny, Like you know what I'm saying.
I got funny, and then I remember we did masis
Swect Garden for Hot ninety seven. Had to be the
greatest show I've ever did in my motherfucker life. Explain
it because this when we had thirty minutes and when
I talked about rock that motherfucker. Like we got bombed

(52:24):
that when I said, I said, because that's the type
of nigger, I am tea to the motherfucking gay. And
I turned around, I put my hand in the air
and I felt the energy from the crowd pushed me
off the stage. It was a standing ovation, yo, and
Michael Carry had to come on right after that. He's
a bad motherfucker, He's a bad thing. Was give it

(52:46):
up for tea to the motherfucker. It's crazy story. But
that night Masis Swect Garden insane? Who's all on that show?
I don't remember it was on that, but I'm quite
sure it was some heavy hitters.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
What year was this?

Speaker 2 (53:00):
This had to be like ninety six, ninety seven, wow,
mm hmm. Yeah. And I I said, Garden.

Speaker 4 (53:08):
Man, you talk a lot about, you know, relationships over
the years, and yes, and you know, just give a
lot of game.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
Man.

Speaker 4 (53:15):
My question to you is, what's one of the biggest
mistakes you think men making relationships at sixty six years.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
That's a great fucking question. Do men lie to themselves?
Men think they want to be in a relationship, but
still fuck around. Men still believe it's a game. You know,
I think being a player is really supply ship. But
it's really not, as you can only realize, it's just

(53:41):
really a waste of fuck time at the end of
the days about that. It's about health. It's about health,
peace of mind, and managing your dick. Yeah, they got

(54:04):
poor dick management.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
And everything.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
And when I tell you, young guys, listen to me
very carefully. And it's hard because I was I used
to be.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
A whole like you whole like uh, be a heart.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
So you know because when you as a youngster, when
you got good dick, you want to share it to
get up when you when you got good dick when
you're young, come here, Come here, I want to show
you something. Come here. So now you want to teach

(54:56):
men to value themselves so much that I always tell
guys every man thinks they gotta find bitch until you
realize she can't put a name or nothing.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Hmm.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
See. And then women with low IQ hear what I'm saying.
They say, I'm not gonna put my name on nothing
for a man. It's not about that she can't. People
with low IQ thinking that's what I'm saying. But if
you understand my way of thinking, it's a process. What

(55:32):
I'm saying is men want to know that their girl
is an askt, not liability, bottom line. And when you
realize your girl is an asset, you do things for
I tell guys all the time, find somebody who don't
need to be taken care of, and then you take
care of them, because it's nice to know that a

(55:55):
girl can She don't have to pay for everything all
the time, but it's good that she can contribute, because
liability is a motherfucker. And if you got it and
you fall off and your girl is just beautiful, she'll
know how work a computer. She can't get no bread.
And we want to motivate women to bring something to
the table. We want women. It's really a lot of

(56:18):
women that got their ship together just never talked about.
It's because the women who got their shit together are
never where we are. They getting ready for work.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
And they ain't somewhere complaining exactly.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
You know, when I went from the average women to
successful women, when I said I'm gonna pay for your ticket,
a successful woman always cursed me out, Fuck you mean
pay for my ticket? I pay for my own ticket,
Like what are you talking about? Like that's so impressive.

Speaker 4 (56:47):
I need their receipt on my credit cards.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
And it's women out there that do that. Brother, I'm
telling you now, you go for what you want, you
go with what you like. But we want women to
elevate their game, to to be an asset to the guys.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
That's where I've been fucking up at. I've been fucking
with who I like? Now, who like you? Yeah, that's
what you might like some crazy ship. Yeah, I just
it's just way way life so much easier.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
Yur standards be too little, we see it.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
Mother, Like, come on, let me hear what I'm saying.
My standards was too high. You had dropping. I had
a long woy you.

Speaker 3 (57:23):
You didn't hear what I hedn't hear what I said.
I said, I've been fucking with who liked me? Well,
who I like? I should have been fucking with who
liked me exactly.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
It's way easier when, oh my god, damn, you hit
there on the.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
Nail when you like her, all you're doing is work. Yeah,
that's a whole job.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
You lost when you say you had the lord your standing, Yeah,
I thought you weren't getting there because you're standing with I.

Speaker 3 (57:46):
Like, ain't about ship, right, I'm looking at all kinds
of ship that don't mean ship.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
That's why I didn't wasted so much time. I'm fucking
with what.

Speaker 4 (57:55):
I like right that ship ain't hitting no ship and
lucky man, you know, I'll never forget. My uncle told
me a long time ago, man, treat your dick like
you treat your Social Security number.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
So true, and I wish I had uncle like that. See,
I learned the hard way. I'm not saying that my
dad was And then my dad died when I was fourteen.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
I ain't got killed when I was a baby.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
Yeah, yeah, So we had and we had, and that
everybody in my family was dead. My dad died at
thirty five. My older brother died at thirty five. The
police murdered my brother. Then my youngest brother died of
annalysm my mom died. Nobody lived to be in their
late fifties. Everybody died young. So everything I did I

(58:37):
learned through trial and error, you know. But when I
sit here today and realize everything I went through, good
and bad, it bade me who I am today. And
I wasn't changing for nothing in the world.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
My daddy told me, don't leave your woman, let her leave.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
You Oh, yeah, it's good to have.

Speaker 3 (58:54):
Yeah, but what if she don't want leave you, but
you try to get rid of it.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
Oh she really been Yeah, I to go. I had
to go.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
I had to experience it before I understood it.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
Though at the end of the day, you just want
to be happy if you can't and peace of mind. Man,
that ship is can't explain it.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
I feel like you've got to go through a relationship
with you sometimes where.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
You fucked up. You don't have to go. You can
learn that.

Speaker 3 (59:22):
Two relationships you learn better, one that you fucked up.
So you can know that.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
Because I'll never forget it. And I was having problems
and me and Andre three thousands going through their port
in l like, I was telling them, like how we talking,
and he listened to me and he said, t K.
He said, you're gonna have to choose which pain you want,
and damn, and you think it's going to be bad,
and then when you make the decision and it goes like, wow,

(59:53):
this ship was easier to motherfucker you did this long
time ago. No, but we all, everybody in this room
is going to have their own journey. Everybody thinks the
way they think right and to the audience who are
watching us. The goal there is think the way you think,
but just say to yourself every now and then, how
about that way? You gotta have grace?

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
I want to ask you. You say you sixty six.

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
It ain't every day we get to talk to some
elders life though, right.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
How does tk bounce back?

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
Explain when life, when life started life as a black man,
how you bounce back? How you deal with like you said,
the ship that money came back, the struggles, the hard ship, anxiety,
that those moments where you don't know the next move
when you put in that position, how you bounce back?
How you deal with this? Okay, that's a good question.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
I would say that everybody, if everybody can have somebody
that can bring out the true gifting them. I would
say it was a man named David Jones, my track coach,
and we talked not too long ago, and we was
talking about some of the great athletes on my team,

(01:01:07):
and these guys had more talent than me. I was
just more determined. And see, even when I caught cases,
even when I was on probation, I still was the term.
I remember being at Ripas Island and listening to the
radio and just the Cash Money Tours about to go
on tour in two weeks and I was the host,

(01:01:28):
and I knew I had a court date prior to
getting to go on that tour, and I had my attorneys.
Was you gonna think I was in the Sopranos Tony
Capitallo and Frank that OUI googled him baddest thirties out
of Long Island everybody, and they was representing me. And

(01:01:51):
don't laugh at me, cause I was about to bring
up another case on a Puffy case back in nineteen
ninety eight, cause I had did some shit with Puffy
and my attorney Camel, they put me in Rikers Island
and my determination was just so it was bigger than me.

(01:02:12):
I mean, think about him sixty six. I'm like, I'm
moving like a mo upuck twenty nine dog, I'm not
even tired, Like I'm just motivating, like I just want
to do more. To me, I don't I don't think
I've done enough. Like I'm like I'm sitting around to
about what the fuck else can.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
I do that?

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
And he left on the table. You never heard about
the Pumpy story.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
But I mean, I don't know from nobody that was there.

Speaker 4 (01:02:45):
Oh no we we go.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
No, no, no. So here's the thing. Puppy was a
great guy and I saw one of the worst things
that happened to him. Sugar night r Kelly. I rocked it,
all of them, all of them there. So she's and
they'll know they. I say this because I would say
it to them. When kids get money young, they create ego.

(01:03:10):
When you get money later, it creates character. They moved
off ego and it fucked for them. Maass vision treating
women with just respect again, that comes back when my
street crew was coming out. See, we was different. We
bought women condos, we bought women cars, We made sure
women were straight. We treated them good. But when the

(01:03:31):
rappers came in, that's when the drug game was on
his way out. And the rappers were getting that kind
of money. And but what they didn't understand they didn't
have the mouthpiece keep a bit. It was buying. So
taking a woman to Chandell spending five thousand ah. But
when the bitch fuck with the nigga that worked at FedEx,

(01:03:51):
the nigga spent all the money made them. Motherfucker. He
won't kill everybody because no one gave them game. When
I look at Tiger Woods, I would have taught him
a great sport, but he didn't send him down and
taught him life. To me, when I look at Tiger
Woods from my I think Tiger Woods wants to kill him.
Say he wants to sabotage his life. Tiger in pain, man, Yeah,

(01:04:15):
that's saying he wants to sabotage his life.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
I don't think you want to sabotage his life.

Speaker 3 (01:04:19):
I just think that he he is dealing with addiction
first and foremost, and won't nobody acknowledged that part. I
really got fucked up from playing all that golf at
a young It's back and ship all broke.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
He had two or three recks.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
He addicted to them.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
Pain, that pain. But here's my take on it. The
day he got caught cheating and that woman came and
took that motherfucking golf and broke them windows of his car,
and ninety bitches was testifying that they was fucking with Tiger,
I think the pressure broke that nigga because as it really, yeah,

(01:04:59):
he's supposed to say fuck you host get here right,
that's how he's supposed to move. But it broke them.
You know, he fucked up. He fucked up.

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
If they would have had some fat white women, they
would have got away with it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
But right when you're talking about don't watch about that
white women fuck with anybody in the lord. Yeah, and
not just that. We was society was about to change,
ye say society. Then when you take the pupplication. Cassidy
comes to court after getting thirty one million dollars, still

(01:05:35):
show the court I come from. Ever we gave a
bitch nine thousands, the contras.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
Still going, she said, she's still going.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
Nine grand, thirty one million, You still come to court.
I know that Nigga was heated when she came through
that door.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
I can imagine.

Speaker 4 (01:05:51):
Yeah, he's like, but that's the thing, Like as sixty
six years old, man, most black men don't live to
see healthy at least fifty five years old, right right
that you know fifty years old is on blood pressure, medicine,
all different types of pills.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
And you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
So to sit here at sixty six years old and
still be moving, game, move, and still be a sound mind, Like,
what do you think is the best decision that you
made to put you in this health wise?

Speaker 4 (01:06:26):
Not anything out of money, not anything. What is the
best decision you made to keep you looking the way
you look and feeling the way you feel at sixty
six years.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
Old, being single work, I work out that almost every day.
I go to doctor every three months just to know
my numbers. I try to teach people to know their numbers.
You know, should know your blood pressure, should know what
your cholesterol situation is. You know all these things and
when if you go every three or four months, it

(01:06:54):
can give you train your brain to be prepared. Off
you it somethings off just a little. You worked cards
like athlete, if you want to win this championship, you
put the work in e good so that when you
go back to that doctor, your numbers are where they
need to be. And that would be my advice to
teach young men to start doing. Because let's take Tommy

(01:07:16):
from Martin. He died of aneurysm. But when you think
of average they could bring But then that's where people
are wrong. See, his analysm happened in the stomach, and
people don't know that exactly. He died of an aniurysm
in his stomach. So I put people up a game
about going to this thing called Lifeline screening. It's like

(01:07:37):
one hundred and sixty nine dollars and Lifeline screening they
put you, put these machines on you, like taking your
car to get it checked out, and they check your blood.
They check if a candidate for a stroke. And I
go there once a year, like I remember the shit
and everything comes back normal. Everything is already all right.
And that's the stuff that our black men and women's

(01:07:59):
just uh going at a young age to know your numbers,
know of your candidate for sof and google it life
Line screening and you'll see it. It's an amazing situation
that they don't share with the public. Just some shit
you got to find out, which is crazy. But that's
why we have these type of platforms to teach. Yeah,

(01:08:19):
you know, to teach and these are things I've learned
in life. And I put a lot of people up
on it. And then I was doing this program in
Ohio getting is called the Walk and they gave out
free exams to check people. So one day I'm in
the mall. I tell the gentlemen to come. He comes.
The next day he has to go. They rush into

(01:08:40):
the hospital. Rushing to the hospital says his life. He
still comes to every comedy show that I do in Columbs, Ohio.
Every Thanksgiving shows that he lost weight, looks good, looks
better than me and boom he say always say thank
you for saving my life. His name is Michael. Shout
out to Mike.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
That's amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
Take your help seriously. Go see the doctor. Yeah, go
get you a liquid IV. Tell him put some vitamins
in that ship.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
That ain't really know that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
It is that liquid IV. It ain't real.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
That ain't number but the water it ain't.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
I done tried them. I don't feel no different.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
I had a great person in my life who owned
one of them type of things.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
That shit real.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
I'm not gonna say yes to no, but I actually
when I went up to saw the prices for some
viamins and all that kind of shaff I go right
over here and buy my own. Mother.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
I got a whole subscription, get some fruit.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
First of all, it's the hospital. How you get them
bags in the hospital and say they ain't got this muk.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
Nobody can't just vitamins and salin. My boy, don't overthink it.
The hospital ain't got that movie.

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
I have seen them mix my ship up. I was like, yeah,
and that's different. If you see it like that, it's good.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
But even if we talk about the hospital game, that's
why health is important. Yeah, because once you get in there.
I tell people, once you go in to hospital fifty,
it's a fifty fifty this shot you coming out, and
if you've got insurance, they're gonna milk you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
They're gonna go crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
Listen, there you going there for cold. They'll keep just
to tell you in two weeks you had cold. Yeah,
that's how fucked up the game is. This is money.
It's real fucked up.

Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
I started back taking flintstone, but yeah, whatever you gotta do,
it's that bad lit and people don't understand how fucked
up that game is.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
But if you take care of your health, you got
worry about that. You ain't got worried about it. See,
if you work hard to get yourself so some type
of insurance something, because you don't want to be in
that welfare box they put you when you leave here.
You know, I tell people at the time, is not
how where he lives, how where you die? How will
you die? I've seen people have money their whole life

(01:10:50):
and because they wasn't prepared. They leave this motherfucker fucked up.
It hurts your feelings.

Speaker 3 (01:10:58):
That's the best feeling in the world when you go
to the doctor and they bring you that, they show
you that insurance got you straight.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
You owe them people nine cent nine.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
Isn't that a beautiful fielding.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
Because you, like you said that ship, you can think
you healthy? Yeah, I remember I fucking them that went
blind that one time. Wow, man, I woke up.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
We had that show with Seattle, and I woke up.
My motherfucking ass was closed.

Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
Man, I couldn't see ship and bad ass I infection
and both eyes just out of nowhere, and they had.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
To go see a specialist and every fucking thing.

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
I went to the urging cab there and they told
me go to the emergency room, went to the murgeringy room.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
And said you got to go see the specialist.

Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
Man here, they had to put this die ship all
in my eyes in Seattle. No here, I'm thinking I
got to go to like a clinic or some ship
man the specialist.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
I had to go see a fucking Linux crappers. Yeah,
that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:11:50):
And it brought me in the back a little smart
as Asian girls youngest in all.

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
She put the yellow ship all in my ass.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
It was crazy. That's the thing with that blood pressure.

Speaker 4 (01:11:58):
Said you remember, we was at the Who Hotel, nigga
were sitting outside one day just like and I just
out of nowhere, it just starts sweating like a mother
if I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
Like a poolish sweat poolish. I'm like, bro, what the
fuck going on with me? Man?

Speaker 4 (01:12:12):
This nigga went and got a cold rag and I
put the shit on my head and shit, I'm like, man,
what's going on.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 4 (01:12:18):
Come to find out blood pressure highs sky hot damn.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:12:23):
We were sitting there having a regular conversation, bro, and
like probably in like a minute, I look, this nigga
was completely wet. I'm like, bro, what the fuck going on?

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
All blood pressure?

Speaker 4 (01:12:34):
So it took me to go and find that out,
you know what I mean, to like go through the
process all last year like was just me going through
the process of read programming. Everything caused me everything. I
had to redo everything, I had to stop eating shit
I love And people don't understand, like the ship that
you put in your body is probably what we are

(01:12:56):
most addicted to because we have the most access to it.
You got the most access to be able even if
you got a couple of dollars. The first thing you're
gonna do is that I'm gonna eat good. But eating
good is most of the time be bullshit, you know
what I'm saying. So, but the hard part of shaking
all of that sugar salt, you know that shit, Like
I mean, I ain't never been on hard drugs in

(01:13:17):
my life, but I could imagine. That's what it feels like,
the detox, all of that shit, And now looking back
on it, it's like, man, all of the things that
what really put it in perspective for me is all
the ship I have made it through in life, all
of the loss, all the people out of lost, all
of the different situations. I'm really about to check out
about some chicken wings, Ain't that some shit nigga about
to die? Wings? You can't lead the wings alone.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
And it happens every day and people miss it. Motherfuckers
die every day with the smallest shit yo, because they
don't respect their health. People who was drinking alcohol as
a youngster. I think it's all the game dick don't
work because of the alcohol, high blood pressure. Shit is
just fucked up and they don't know what to do.

(01:14:02):
So because they can't fuck, they blame their girl. Oh
bet you, but it's your health. Young niggas who can't.
They can't get up, young niggas because they drink and
they think it's a game. They think it's a motherfucker game. Bottles,
buying bottles in the club, drinking them straight down. Like
it's like, this is not going to have an effect
on you. Every person I knew that was on drugs,

(01:14:24):
crack or whatever, and they stopped. They never made it
to sixty.

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
So they could have kept smoking.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
No. Oh, even when you stop, your body's already damaged.

Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:14:39):
Well, and you probably at sixty six have probably seen
many of your friends.

Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
I've seen you come, I've seen I've seen people try
to do right and then I see years later because
it was too late. So me putting two and two together,
I said, people got to start young. It's not something
you change up at forty forty five, because if you
went that long, damage is that you got to start

(01:15:04):
this ship as a youngster. Just give up or give up,
give up on getting clean.

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
No, no, no, not getting clean on life.

Speaker 3 (01:15:14):
Yeah, like I'm talking about, you're done just mentally decided that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
See and at the end of the day, Yeah, but
we talked about motivating and now what I what I
realized that sixty six people just need money. So that's
another thing. They need money. They need to know they
need money. Because when you have money, you can pay
for your rent, you can have a nice bad you
can have a nice car. I'm not saying you gotta

(01:15:42):
be rich. It doesn't need to be financially literate. That's
the same thing. It's difference now for financially literatey and
have mighty different things. Financial literally means you have knowledge
of money, but you don't have money. You got to
have money because it builds a article that being broke
is equivalent to high blood pressure the heart worse than
smoking cigarette works and smoking cigarettes. You got the So

(01:16:03):
we want to put people How can we put money
in people's pockets? So I started this program called Tkgovconway
dot com is teach people how to be government contractors. Right,
And I tell people to watch the webinar and see
if this is what you want to do, because if
you're on the computer all day you're doing certain things.

(01:16:25):
This is the thing for you. My friend Bolo and
all of them out of Chicago put them on motherfucker
May over six hundred thousand US and six months. Now.
People don't understand government contractor they think they got so
they product.

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
What they people don't know is the government hires people
to do things for them. So let's use this example.
Let's say school starts and the government needs you to
buy ten thousand pencils. You know you need seven thousand
to get this, you know, but you to have to
seven thousand. My company pays you to seven thousand because

(01:17:01):
the profit on the pens is probably one hundred grand.
And this the knowledge that most of our people don't have.
And I tell people a time to get an idea.
Watch war Dogs. Oh here you see. War Dogs was
about government contract because they outbid certain people but made

(01:17:21):
a lot of money. So what you're do with TKV
comoy dot com you're bidding but dollar And I'm not
a fan of Donald try to make sure we clear
when I say this, but Donald Trump put into the
government for government contract on one point seven trillion dollars
for next year. They need the people and I'm telling you,
everybody in this room or whatever, look at TKGUV, Comway

(01:17:43):
dot com. If you could put the work in, if
you're really serious about if you really like making motherfucking money,
this is it.

Speaker 4 (01:17:50):
But see, a lot of people don't know what making
making money is.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
It's a lot of people don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:17:57):
Like something that I always say is it's a convenience
for a lot of people to be broke because their
only problem is getting some money. They don't know who
they are, they don't know what they want to do.
They just know they need some money. And once they
get some money, then they realize all of the shit
that's really wrong with them. So the actual pursuit of

(01:18:18):
get money is what most people are on out here.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
That's me.

Speaker 3 (01:18:21):
That's why I ain't want to go get help yet.
Shut up now, I'm crazy enough for the shit just
might work. Like I ain't in dangerous, I ain't like sad.
I'm like crazy enough to actually believe in myself and
like crazy enough to believe this shit ll work.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
And money I don't. Yeah, I can see what you're saying.
Money money brings out the ego and you and yeah,
people you need to find the.

Speaker 4 (01:18:46):
Idea of it is what most people have. The actual
obtaining of it is allus don't even It's like we
don't understand that process. So at your agent and all
of the things that you've done in the game, what
would you say is the most essential skill that you
have to have to actually get some money?

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
The education.

Speaker 4 (01:19:09):
Or tradely education and what like book knowledge or.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
From what I know now, I wish I'd never sent
my kids to college because that trade shit is the
most important thing.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
You don't depend on school.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
It's only for people who have great memory. See doesn't
mean you're that person smarter than you, just that person
can remember stuff better than you. But you could be
more creative than that person. See two different things. See
when Rockefeller created the boad of education, he said he
wanted workers, not thinkers. You see, so mostly everybody in
this room was trained to think. You know what I'm saying,

(01:19:49):
what I mean to work, not think. And when I
go over seas and I see black men and women
speak at six seven fucking languages like it ain't shit.
When I go to Berlin and I went to see
the Berlin walls over there spoken to God has some
business and me and my daughter went and then I

(01:20:09):
also went to the Great Wall Chyna six months later.
So now I'm in not Roby because my cousin hold
me sixteen thousand, he thought, because he moved all that
motherfuck I was gonna come hold no story. You get
his money.

Speaker 4 (01:20:23):
Yeah, go get your money back from a nigger in
that rob right when you still got that white man
credit card?

Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
Right, No, don't make sure we quick because he's a comedian.
Let's make sure right now we're talking about forty years different.
We talked about when I'm twenty something years old. Everybody,
he's bringing back the loop for the joke. And I
know people go there, but I have to do this
because social media they ship up and had me looking
fucked up. And I got grandkids, and I don't play

(01:20:49):
when it come with my grandchildren. No, So this happened
I was in my twenties. I'm sixty six. Now let's
go back to the story. Now that we had our
commercial break, so I get to night Roady. My cousin's
friend says, I see you on social media. You're really
giving the motherfucker gents. He said, he you have been

(01:21:10):
to menein Nigeria. I said, no, White said, I ain't
even gonna tell you. Just when you go there, you'll
tell the world about a year later, I'm in Meneen, Nigeria.
I was in here an hour and I saw he
was talking about I don't share this to the world.
They'll teach you here that it's the Great Wall of China.

(01:21:31):
They tell you about the Wall of Berlin, But did
you know that there was a walk called the Wall
of Beneen, five times bigger than the Great Wall of
mother fucking China. And they never told us that shit.
When I'm staying in Berlin, the hotel rooms that Berlin

(01:21:52):
Antwerk Belgium, they got black people all. You know, you
go to hotels and nothing white people. It's insane when
you realize that the Pope praise to a black madonna,
When you realize that the Europeans changed the game and
whitewashed everything. You know, what can you tell our people?

(01:22:13):
When I sit back and I in my years, I
seen the world decline education, How many women move even
down to their looks In my day, A flavor Flavor
could have never had a TV show. So my jokes is,

(01:22:39):
I love let me use this damn boy, Let me
tell you what why I'm used as a bookmark. When
I saw the host chasing flavor flavor on the TV
set because these motherfuckers on lost their other motherfucker mind,
that ship could have never happened. Way back when I
was coming up, when I saw the Kadashians blow up,

(01:23:03):
I saw the level of education and common sense on
the decline. When I read stuff all the time, I
see that a lot of kids in the seventh grade
are reading under a third grade reading level in this
country seventy seventy s. So what the fuck is the future?

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:23:29):
See everybody playing around? I think it's a game. I
see the world different. No, men don't want to be
hold themselves accountable. I teach people trying to get an
LLC EI IN. They think it's a motherfucker game. The
reason why you want to have an LLC and a
EI IN because you would have been prepared for the
PvP loans back in the day. But we're not taught

(01:23:52):
that in school. See, when we graduate from high school,
everybody should know how to do their own income tax.
Everybody should have an LLC, an ei N and have
a small farm in they backyard, because we sure you
have to depend on people for your food. So we
go out here and we ask people to hire us
for their job. When I see people go to get

(01:24:12):
an oscar and then black people get upset and say
they should give more black awards. That's like coming into
your house and tell you how you you should change
the paint in your home. That's their shit. We the
only motherfuckers that have a war show, and we write white.

Speaker 1 (01:24:30):
People or the niggas who ain't coming.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
Yeah, but that's that could have been different if we
made it mandatory years ago. See, the Oscar is not
the Oscars because it is what it is. Louis Autine,
Gucci is all this because they've been around one hundred years.
They stand. They made a tradition over years. This is
what you become. It's consistency, it's repetitious, exactly what it is.

(01:24:58):
You just got to put the years in. People people
want to be famous over ninety Sometimes you gotta put
the work in. See, I knew in the nineties about
you guys. Watch my about to tell you the story.
Once I forgot what interview, I said, the people that's
gonna make me famous are kids today. I said, what
do you mean? I said, I don't know what the

(01:25:18):
fuck I said. Somebody's young, it's gonna change my life.
Didn't know about social media, didn't know about this is
going on to these platforms going to exist, and look
what the fuck happened, Blast Charlamagne. You guys, y'all twenty
fucking years younger than me. I knew this in the nineties.
This shit was gonna pop, yeah, in the nineties, but

(01:25:40):
didn't know what it was. I didn't know social media.
I just said, kids, it's children that's gonna help change.
This shit has changed my life.

Speaker 4 (01:25:50):
I heard you just say something that's always unique. To
meet your grandfather now. Yeah, And one of the things
that I always say is the cool part about saying
grandparents is you get to see your parents treat your
kids the way they were supposed to treat you. Yes,
So what are you doing with your grandchildren that you
should have did with your children.

Speaker 2 (01:26:10):
I'm doing the same motherfuck thing. I don't have enough time.
But my son is a great son, and he spends
the time with the kids the way I wish I
could have spent more time with him. So that's what
I mean by sacrificing, right, and my life can't speak
for everybody else my life. I had to sacrifice love,

(01:26:30):
marriage and family because I got to be that nigga.
But I gotta go to London. I gotta go. I
got to be that guy. If I got forty fifty
thousand on the table in motherfucker Berlin, I gotta go because,
like I said, I don't have an agent. I didn't
have a manager. I was doing everything by myself and
I never wanted to call an agent to say to somebody,

(01:26:52):
book me, to have your life in somebody's hands like that.
I couldn't live like that, no fucking way. So I
applied the pressure, kept working, working, and I have relationships,
you know, And to this day, right now, I'm booked
to twenty thirty seven. Just got so you ever go

(01:27:19):
on the Breakfast Club or Angela Guie say to them
when it's TK coming back here. They know the date,
the actual day that I'm coming back on the show.
I booked myself that far in advand look.

Speaker 1 (01:27:34):
Man, we got you some some cool ship. But I
like it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
Fly ship. Listen, get y'all from a long.

Speaker 4 (01:27:43):
Eight years old still teeth to the motherfucker, you know,
I like Hatstoff.

Speaker 3 (01:27:50):
Hey man, let them know where they can find you
at on social media TK.

Speaker 1 (01:27:54):
We'll be here asking questions on mother.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
We're gonna know. I waited ten years agree on this, motherfucker,
and I called you fifty times, and you just used
to look at the number and never return the phone man.
And I thought that was every number you ever called
me from. I only called you for one number. I
don't got the old no my number, been saying for
over thirty years. Got forget them, my old head. I
was around for internet. Yeah, you damn sure.

Speaker 1 (01:28:19):
Will I got the same number with the minutes on it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:22):
I still got no, no, shut up there. Oh can
you tell me the number on living? It came along?
But the great thing, gentlemen, and let me give you flowers.
Like I said, all this started on forty third in Crenshaw,
Robin Harris, Michael Williams, twenty dollars a show.

Speaker 4 (01:28:45):
Okay, before we go, Before we go, you gotta give
us an amazing story with Robin Hart.

Speaker 2 (01:28:51):
Michael. Will you gotta like you on the block with
these guys during this.

Speaker 4 (01:28:55):
Time, Robin Williams, I mean, Robin Harris didn't like you.

Speaker 2 (01:28:58):
Yes, that's what they tried to say. But It wasn't
that Robert Harris didn't like me. He was a competitor.
And when you're a competitor and you see a motherfucker, See,
everybody likes you when you're not funny, when you start
blowing up, you start getting enemies. And Robin was a
nice guy and right, right, and and what and what
I try to tell people, you can't defend a man

(01:29:20):
that's dead, because I remember I saw something that a comedian,
without saying his name, was saying that Robin Harris didn't
like t K or he would beat people up because
he was stealing his joke. Listen to me, everybody that's
cap and I would see my man, I gonna talk
to him. Know that's the motherfucker, I'll say right here.
And the thing about that is we talked about fighting.

(01:29:42):
I only got I only lost a fight with the
motherfucker stuck up by me hit being able to pipe,
or they jumped me. That's it. But everybody who know that,
I've given a lot of people passed. But to go
back to what you were saying about Robin Harris, and
I gave people a path because I wanted this type
of life better. See, I remember being in other County

(01:30:05):
jail one year crazy story. Tupac is next to me
in one cell. The Beninda's brothers and Rick Jans, they
was in there, and Rick Jones see and protective custoder.
You only in one self.

Speaker 1 (01:30:26):
Up with the history show.

Speaker 2 (01:30:28):
You can't you can't see the other person. You just
know everybody's in there. You know what I'm saying. And
that's the only time I got boothed in comedy because
the niggas is feeling some kind of way. They was like, yo,
t K tell us the joke and I said, Nigga,
I'm fighting the case.

Speaker 3 (01:30:44):
Boo.

Speaker 2 (01:30:44):
Niggas. The niggas boot Nigga in the county motherfucker jail.
But the great show about Robin Harris was the best
comedian ever touched the hands down, I don't get you

(01:31:06):
could take Bernie mac and all these guys was good.
He walked circle, found the motherfuckers, doll the niggas that brilliant,
brilliant and on the nights that we had and Martin
Thin Bad, Damon Wayans, Eddie Murphy, no matter who went

(01:31:27):
up and destroyed nigga. If you was next, you had
to go next to deal with the heat. You had
to deal with that motherfucker heat. And we talked about
we came up and I put this to this day.
We came up with the best comedy ever.

Speaker 1 (01:31:40):
Ever.

Speaker 2 (01:31:40):
Ever, however, was unfucking Believer because Samorrow, Sholle Underwood, J. L. Hughley,
Bernie mac Thin bad right, Keenan Ivy WANs. You know
Eddie Murphy loan motherfucker rockstar. So when I see people
trying to be famous that they all popular, actually saw

(01:32:00):
what rockstar rock star looked like, and I've never seen
nobody get to the level Eddie Murphy. I think it
was a motherfucker rock star.

Speaker 4 (01:32:09):
Speaking of which, like you coming, you just named comedy gods, Like,
is there any I gotta ask you this? Because you know,
we all are super fans of each other and we
love to see each other just go crazy, Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:32:23):
Like it feel good?

Speaker 2 (01:32:25):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:32:26):
Who is somebody of all the people that you've been
around to scene, who's somebody you've seen do a set
that you.

Speaker 2 (01:32:31):
Was like, my god, it's a comedian named Don Reed. Y'all,
y'all don't know him. Don Reed did a set in
Los Angeles, California, forty third and Crenshaw to this day.
The greatest stand up set I've ever seen in my
mother fucker in life. It was amazing. It was magical.

(01:32:55):
He had these different characters and he did told his
jokes and towards, and he bought the characters back around
before the show were in standard dovation. But he didn't
pursue comming the way he should have. Don reed you
ever get a chance, don Reeve, You're still alive. That
was the greatest motherfucker performance ever. Has dad cold And

(01:33:19):
there's a lot of convenience.

Speaker 1 (01:33:20):
All the people he just named.

Speaker 4 (01:33:22):
He said, the greatest said he ever seen was a
nigga we never heard of.

Speaker 2 (01:33:24):
Yes, that's it's the same like now if you yeah,
I knew Charlie very well. This is part they stand
up though. You know Charlie was gifted. You know it
just said in this life, yo, gotta be lucky. And

(01:33:45):
you know I'm talking about just life. I did a
story not too long ago. I said, when you wake
up in them while everybody should make their beds up,
not because what your parents say. Everything should be in order,
because you know it's technical. Granted you may not make
it back. And the reason why I bring this up
when my grandmother died. When my brother died. You all

(01:34:05):
remember how your home is left whoever walks in there
after you die. If your place is chaotic, people gonna
remember chaos. If your place is neat, was that person
was a neat person. I've seen this with my own eyes.
Is my this is my actual belief. And then from

(01:34:26):
hanging I told you this goes back to who raised you.
And then we'll get out of here. Let's go. Tupac
was my good friend. It Smalls is my good friend.
And that's why I say worries are powerful because them
two talked about death. Puffy was my friend, jay Z
was my friend. They get money and women. So I

(01:34:49):
always tell people be conscious of what you said, come
out of your mouth, because it comes to reality. And
the day Tupac died, I was with Tupac. We hung
out that day and then I went to I was
working out and I went and got some fat burners.
I don't know why it wasn't fat, but I fucked

(01:35:09):
around and got sick. We always going to six six club,
should and all of us, but I detoured. Matter of fact,
I was actually in the club and I got sick
in the club, and I left. I woke up like
later on aftern SO and I mean that morning, so
Tupacet got shot. A year later, I went Biggie in
La We all go to Glasstone's in Hollywood. They go

(01:35:32):
to the tattoo spot and we all go to the
after party at the Museum on on Fairfax Avenue. I
got a show at the Regency West on forty thirty Crenshaw.
I pulled some business with me and we hopped into
suv and I go. But I saw all the street
niggas there. I said, Oh, this ain't gonna make it already,

(01:35:55):
all right. I saw what I saw, you know people.
As I'm coming back out doing the show, I see
the police out there and they said TK two Biggie
got shot. I's like, yeah, rite whatever he did that.
So I went to go hang out with Outcasts on
Sunset Boulevard. They was doing a listener party, was doing
their own little party. And I used to do a

(01:36:17):
lot of shows with Outcasts as well. So I go
there for formed that night with them. I go on
the patio and something said call Laote. Laote was Puppy's
assistant at the time. So I drove the sea to
Caesar side nine and she came out. She was crying.
She said, Biggie's dad said what So Biggie died on

(01:36:42):
my brother's birthday and nineteen ninety seven, March ninth, and
I went and my brother was born in March ninth,
nineteen sixty and I called my mom and I said, man,
you know they killed Biggie And she said, oh, baby, really,
I said yeah, and she asked, was okay? And that's

(01:37:03):
that's that's how I seeing all this journey. So all
these things taught me to be the kind of man
I am today. And the kind of man I want
people to remember me is not about a credit cards
because it's funny and people who can run with it.
I want you to see a man that lived to
be sixty six years old, that did his thing, took

(01:37:23):
care his health, became very successful, paved the way for
young comics. That's sitting here today, changed a lot of
people's lives. And if I could be remembered for anything,
I want to be known for that how I change
your mother fucking life.

Speaker 3 (01:37:45):
Still book for another eleven years, Still book for another
that he is great.

Speaker 1 (01:37:52):
And if we don't know who we've been sitting here
talking to.

Speaker 2 (01:37:55):
There's none other than to the motherfucking cake by yourself.
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