March 2, 2026 • 45 mins
In Episode 8 of the 9941 Podcast, Granger and the guys tackle a question that’s been buzzing across headlines and social media: Are aliens real—and does the Bible say anything about “little green men”? Sparked by recent comments from political leaders and the renewed conversation around UFOs and extraterrestrial life, this episode dives deep into a biblical worldview on aliens, the paranormal, and spiritual warfare.
What does Scripture actually say about intelligent life beyond Earth? Could sightings and unexplained phenomena be something else entirely? The conversation moves through key passages like Genesis 1, Ezekiel 1, Ephesians 6, Colossians 1, and John 1 to explore angels, demons, and the sovereignty of God over all creation. Rather than speculating wildly, the guys anchor the discussion in a “big God theology”—affirming that Christ holds authority over heaven and earth and that humanity holds a unique place in God’s redemptive plan.
If you’ve ever wondered how Christians should think about UFOs, aliens, Bigfoot, ghosts, or government disclosures, this episode brings clarity without fear. More importantly, it refocuses the conversation on what truly matters: the gospel, the authority of Scripture, and the life-changing power of Jesus Christ.
Whether you’re skeptical, curious, or firmly convinced one way or another, Episode 8 challenges you to filter cultural headlines through biblical truth.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up. I'm Granger, I'm me Man, I'm Tyler, I'm Parker.
This is the ninety nine for one podcast. Thank you
guys for watching here. We try to seek the one
and equipp the ninety nine to do the same. Comes
from Luke fifteen parable The Lost Sheep, and today his
episode was it we were looking at episode eight? Yeah,
I didn't I last night was the first time I
(00:23):
noticed that this was the topic for today.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
You want to read the title.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
The title. I don't know if this title is going
to stick or not, but it's pretty funny. It says,
does the Bible talk about little Green men?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Does it? You think it does?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I guess it needs to be addressed. And why are
we talking about this today?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Well, on Brian Tyler Colan's podcast, President Obama was asked
in a quick fire question round, are aliens real?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Here's what he said, They're real.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
He then added that he hasn't seen any personally and
that they aren't being kept at Area fifty one in some.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Secret facility, but he said they are real.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
So Trump was asked about what Obama said, and this
just added fuel to the fire because this was his reply. Well,
he gave classified information. Terrible impersonation, but he's not supposed
to be doing that. I don't know if they're real
or not. I can tell you he gave classified information
though he's not supposed to be doing that. He made
a big mistake. He took it out of a out
(01:23):
of classified information.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
How many times did he have to say that in
the one paragraph?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Well, see that helps if you actually can do a
good Trump impersonation, because he repeats everything thirty four or
five six times. But then he shared this on Truth
Social based on the tremendous interest shown, I'll be directing
the Secretary of War and other relevant departments and agencies
to begin the process of identifying and releasing government files
(01:48):
related to alien and extraterrestrial life, unidentified aerial phenomenon, and
unidentified flying objects, and any and all other information connected
to these highly complex, but extremely interesting and important matters.
He wrote that on Truth Social and then God bless America.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
So first question, this did you pull this straight from
from that data? Like the question to Obama, are aliens real?
Is that is that the exact word is the exact word?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Aliens?
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:19):
It was a quick fire, uh quick, a quick question
and a quick answer, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
And so then we'd have to define what what he
meant by what Tyler Cohen meant, Brian Tyler Cohen meant
by aliens.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
I'm assuming just the normal, like somewhere from outer space.
That's I mean, what would you classify it as well?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
It could you say that some kind of bacteria growing
on Mars.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
No, I think that mean little green men?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
But did did he or not? I mean, because that's
what I mean, like what it could be microbacteria on
that they saw growing on Venus or something.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I think when the questions asked, that's not implied. Yeah,
like what's implied? Are there? You know, Skinny Gray short you.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Know, let's go around circle here on who believes in
if there would be little green men? No, no, let
me rephrase that humanoid humanoid organic species.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Non human intelligence. No, that's how they classify. That's AI.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Oh yeah, no, what is it they use?
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Sorry, that's why I said organic. That's right, organic intelligence
or no, we don't have to say organic because it
could just be if it's an intelligence from outside planet Earth,
then it wouldn't be our AI. So you could say
because maybe they are robotic like transformers. Remember transformers were
not organic.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
I'm seeing sentient biological beings from other planets.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Okay, but biological confusing because like because of transformers, because
of optimist Prime is more than meets the eye, and
he is not biological. So let's just call it, for
the sake of this podcast, intelligent life forms that didn't
(04:19):
originate from this particular planet in this solar system. Let's
go around. Do I think yes or no?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
No?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Tyler?
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Sorry, I was thinking this is a yes or no question,
yes or no? Do I believe in little green men?
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Not believe in little green men? Do you do you trust?
Can you affirm the existence in your mind of a
intelligent being of some sort, not talking about God, the
intelligent being or species that originates outside of the planet Earth. Yes, purer.
Speaker 6 (04:59):
Angels are added being outside.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Let's not think.
Speaker 6 (05:05):
The way that you're asking. Do I believe aliens?
Speaker 1 (05:07):
No? Okay, I must say no. All right, Tyler, you still,
even after you redefined it, you're still saying no. I
mean you're saying yes. Okay, then you're the one talking
right now.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
What you got?
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Okay? He said yes or no question. That's why I
said yes.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
But for aliens, I believe we have already been invaded,
but not through little green men, through demons and Satan.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Okay, that's no, Tyler, that's a trick. No, no, no, no,
it's not a trick because we all agree, are we
we're just talking e t Yeah, we're talking something non,
something extra biblical. Yeah. So I'm back to know if
you want me to expand on my nokden off in
the distance, Yes or no? We're all a boring no
(05:58):
in this room there's the podcast in here. No it
should not because we're.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
Going to be a lot of yes is listening right now?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
How about how would we incorporate this a little bit?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Because Granger and I work on a show called After
Midnight and we have proposed this question on that show. Yeah,
and there have been emphatic yesses on that show because
people who listen to that it's a third shift show,
so it goes from midnight to six am.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
These are people who either can't sleep, don't sleep, don't
want to sleep, or work during that time. And a
lot of those people are the people who work and
are on the road. So yes, truck drivers, bus drivers,
delivery drivers and stuff like that. They've seen some stories
that have been I will say if you if you
tune out everything else and just listen to the story,
like I'm convinced that they are convinced that they saw something.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
I agree, Yeah, I agree that they are convinced that
they're convinced.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
I I Also, we could put it into that same
category paranormal activity. Like ghost You could say the same
argument with ghosts, bigfoot aliens, bigfoot monsters, all those things
could be in the same category. First, I want to
go to before we kind of establish an argument here.
(07:19):
I want to go to First Corinthians because it's fresh
on my mind, and Pastor Stephen preached that at our
church a few days ago. He definitely didn't He didn't
use aliens in his exe Jesus. But so don't make
me think that Chapter ten, First Corinthianscepter ten. I don't
want anyone to think that that's we preached about aliens
(07:39):
our church. We did not. But there's an interesting little
part here in that that I think about in this context,
and let me find the spot here. No, so he
(08:03):
says in verse nineteen, what do I imply then that
food offered to idols is anything or that idle or
that an idol is anything verse twenty, No, I imply that
what pagan sacrifice they offer to demons and not to God.
I do not want you to be participants with demons.
(08:23):
You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the
cup of demons. You cannot partake of the table of
the Lord and the table of demons. He says it
every verse in the little section, every one of them
talking about demons. Demons are something. It's not really something
that sane people talk about these days. But if we're
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on the topic of ghost and bigfoot and aliens, we
might as well bring demons into this, because this is
the being, the entity, the species. I guess that we
can all get behind. I read a one time in
a systematic theology book talking about angels that this guy
was claiming that angels are there, every angel is its
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own species. About that was interesting, And if a demon
is a fallen angel, you could technically say the same thing,
every demon is its own species, because in the Bible,
there are no angels that are that that share those
I identifying qualities of a species. If you're thinking Old Testament,
sure so, it'd be interesting to think about demons as
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their own species. We all affirm all of us in
this room affirmed demons. And we know that they exist,
and we know that they they have an agenda. And
I think that in my mind, bigfoot ghosts of any kind,
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aliens included, all the sightings, if the person is crazy
or not, could all be put under the umbrella of demons.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
See, that's where I believe to I think that it
has to do. I think alien sightings, alien encounters all
have to do with encounters of something that is why
do we say it at the beginning, not organically of this.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
World, yeah, intelligence, that's not origine Earth. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
So I guess in that in that, in that essence
that a demon would be not only we're aliens technically
in this world.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah. And so we we know that there's a there's
a spiritual warfare. We know that in fact we should
we should address that too. Just be clear here Ephesians
six is where we go to this where he says,
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find a good starting place for we do not wrestle
against Fushian blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities,
against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the
spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places. Therefore, he
makes the argument about taking up the whole armor of
God that you may be able to withstand the evil day.
(11:22):
So we are in a spiritual war. The battle is
waging around us. The Bible tells us to be strong
in the Lord, to stand firm, and gives us the
tools that we need to stand firm that don't originate
in ourselves. But all of this to say that when
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someone says they see something weird or strange or crazy
or paranormal, as Christians, we go to the Bible. We
go Yeah, I know it's in It's right here. So
to our title, whatever the title of this podcast is
going to be, gives us plenty of room for the
paranormal strange things.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Yeah, you know a lot of people. I think we've
even talked about this too. Just in passing is that
we Ezekiel when he's crazy is just it is baffling,
And I say battling if you if you read through
it though, it kind of kind of really in chapter
what is in chapter one one? And then in chapter
ten he kind of sums everything up a little bit
(12:27):
there too, And in chapter ten these beings are identify
identified as Cherubim, a specific class of angelic beings and uh,
but you know, even with what he's saying in Ezekiel
one one is just I mean, you're gonna.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Read some of that, do you have let me pull
that up?
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, you go ahead. I mean, I'm I don't want
to hug up all the Bible here. Speaking of Cherubim though,
you know that the the the idea of chaerubhim. You
guys remember where that started. I don't mean it, I
could do a test or anything, but do you remember
where the idea of Cherubim where it first appears arc
right before before then? Yeah, you had the That was
(13:08):
the answer to the second question that you haven't asked yet.
The first question is, well, they they they're in the garden.
Oh okay, remember they that Adam has kicked out. Adam
and Eve are kicked out, and the cherub them come in.
And the second time it appears in the Bible is
the building of the arc. Yeah, and the chairb them
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appear again. So there these guards, you know, guarding what
is holy. It's an interesting thought, yeah, and so terrifying thought.
So you've got in mind the glory of the verse four.
As I looked, behold a storm wind came out of
the north in a great cloud with brightness around it,
and fire flashing forth continually in the midst of the fire,
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as it was gleaming metal, And from the midst of
it came the likeness of four living creatures, and this
was the appearance. They had human likeness, but each had
four faces. Each of them had four wings.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Their legs were straight, and the soles of their feet
were like the sole of a calf's foot, and they
sparkled like bronze, like burnished bronze under their wings and
their fore sides. They had human hands. And the four
had their faces and their wings. Thus their wings touched
one another. Each one of them went straightforward around without
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turning as they went. The likeness of their faces. Each
had human faces. I was looking for the anya this
is I mean, it sounds like somebody telling you of sighting.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
You know, now you know?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
And each went straightforward whenever the spirit would go. They
went without turning as they went. And for the likeness
of the living creatures, their appearance was like burning coals
of fire, like the appearance of torches moving to and
fro among living creatures. And the fire was bright and
out of the fire went forth lightning, and the living
creatures departed to and fro, like the appearance of a
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flash flighting.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Yep, and here's Genesis four. This is the first time
we hear something like this. Twenty three. Therefore, the Lord
God sent him out of the garden, talking about Adam
to work the ground from which he was taken. He
drove out the man and at the east, and at
the east of the garden of Eden he placed the
Cherubim and a flaming sword that turned away, that turned
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every way to guard the way of the Tree of life.
And a flaming sword that turned every way to guard
the way of the Tree of life. It's a strange sentence,
just like Ezekiel. And then we see it again. Come
when they're building the the Arc of the Covenant to
(15:38):
house the Ten Commandments, the tablets in the budding rod,
and the mana. It's wild stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
In ten.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Then I looked and behold the expanse that was over
the heads of the Cherubim. There appeared above them something
like sapphire in appearance, like a throne. And he said
to the man clothes in lenin go and among the
whirling wheels underneath the chair of them the first sighting
right here.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
No, no joke, man, So you're in Ezekiel ten. Yeah, man,
we have to just touch on on Ezekiel one because
that's just one of the crazies.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Did I miss that? That's what I was reading that first?
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Is that where you were first? You just went to
went to.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
What I missed from one.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
The the the these creatures come out of the wind. Yeah,
just another weird thing. But that did you always hear
with these sightings? Like the wind kicks up and it's
dark and and the wind came out of the north
in a great cloud with brightness around it, fire flashing
forth continually in the midst of the fire as if
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it was gleaming metal. That just sounds like something straight
out of Steven Spielberg. Yeah, the beginning of a movie.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
The only thing that was left out of this was
the crop circle that left. Yeah, so what what shows
up at now these files? As of the recording of
this hasn't the files haven't been released. So do we
just get Ezekiel out of the files?
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Is it? So? There are people listening right now that
are going, oh, you guys don't know what I know.
I know that just because I know, I know, I
know the people that comment you know that, oh you guys,
are you guys don't know what I know? Or my
cousins of pilot and he saw this, or you guys
obviously are not following the so and so files that
(17:35):
that you know or top secret you need to look up.
What we see a lot in the comments is is like,
please do research on this particular person right and there,
and what he what he has to say. Thoughts Perker
on that.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Just how people have have personal experiences or have done
research on the top consider're confident that they're No.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Yeah, people will say I saw something or my mother
saw something unforgettable.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Yeah, I mean, I just don't think that scripture supports
what they're considering to be aliens. I think that it
was either delusion or something man made, or something angelic
or demonic.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
How do you know you're not delusional?
Speaker 6 (18:30):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
But to my best ability, I'm looking to the roadmap
of life, which is the Bible. That's how we figure
out what's going on and what is objective reality and
what's not. And God could have explicitly mentioned these sentient
biological beings, but he didn't. He left that part out,
(18:53):
And so I think the main argument that people would
say against the idea that there are no aliens, or
to word that in the positive would be the best
excuse that they would give that there are aliens is
that how could there be that many planets out there
in that big of a universe and not be some
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form of life. But from that worldview, like I was
just talking to Zach about it this morning, that worldview
just has such a small idea of humanity. That secular,
non religious, atheistic worldview that has a low view of
God just assumes that all of us right now in
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this room are just just bags of flesh making noises
out of our face on a blue marble, floating in
blackness in the middle of a endless universe with trillions
and trillions of other planets out there, and we are
literally nothing but just chance that we just so happened
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to strong eating the week and here we are just
talking and life is meaningless, you know. And so in
that aspect, of course, there's other trillions of other universes
and people and stuff because we're just one of like,
but you know, but the Bible has something specific about
like mankind, like Tyler and I were talking to Marshall
this morning, our pastor. He was like, mankind is the
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pinnacle of creation. So on one hand this is kind
of a tangent. But on one hand you could say, well,
you're just super self righteous. You just think all the
universe revolves around you. How can you believe that when
there's trillions of other planets. But in one sense mankind,
there is something particular about mankind that we can make
the argument as Christians if the Bible is true, which
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we believe it is, that mankind is the pinnacle of
God's creations. So it would make sense that there are
trillions of other galaxies out there with no other life
because God specifically chose something special about human beings and
planet Earth. And so why did he create trillions of
other planets and knows everyone by name.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
If there's no.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Life, what's to display his glory and to show how
much he he's mindful of mankind?
Speaker 1 (21:06):
That's good man. So maybe an ancient alien species from
the History channel came to the Pyramids in Egypt and
planted their seed, and that's where we came from. Somebody's
thinking that not you guys, but speaking out loud, you
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know in my mind when I hear stuff like that,
my mind always says, where do they come from? Yeah,
like did we come because maybe we didn't I'm speaking
of the critic. Maybe we didn't come from nothing, from
pons com. Maybe we actually came from a seeding, you know,
from another from another planet, another planet, and that like
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their their resources ran out like the Superman story or
something like Kryptonite was getting destroyed. They came for whatever reason,
for whatever strange reason, they seated Earth and then they
left or they died, and they left us nothing to
deal with anything. And so it took a lot of
years to develop a technology which they could have just said,
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you know, as babies like here here, here's how to
like do things, here's how to here's how to advance quickly.
You think they would do that, but they just disappeared
on us. But I always think, where do they come from?
Because if we didn't come from nothing, if we came
from a seed, well then some species had to have
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been created. We're getting into another probably another topic of
this podcast, on creation versus evolution. We could we could
do that, we did another time. That's not what we're doing.
So let's not go to that rabbitle But what where
where do we stand in the Bible with to back
up what Parker's saying about humanity being the pinnacle of creation,
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which we find in Genesis, that it would be not
because we're, as Perker said, like you know all about
ourselves are egotistical, but because we're we are very unique
on this planet. And and the Bible is not something
we read and are forced to believe, but it actually
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the Word begins to in believers testify through us and
in the resulting of changed lives. I'm one. Everyone in
this room is one. Their lives have been radically changed
in a way that we couldn't have just made a
decision to follow a book, an ancient book, and then
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are well, we've all made decisions that don't line up
with logic and felt peace in those decisions that don't
line up with anatomy, you know what I mean. So
the Word testifies through lives, which is why we tell
a testimony. That's why you hear someone go, I want
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to tell you my testimony. Let me tell you what
the Lord did to change my life, to save me
from death to life, from dark to light, from blind
to see, and let me show you, let me show
you in the Bible how that happened, and let me
show you about my life and my story the crazy
(24:30):
way that he did it. And that is what becomes undeniable,
that the Bible is more than an ancient book that
works out really well. If you study your history and
you add up evidence, that's cool, it's cool, But really
the greatest evidence is a changed life.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
So your point is, we're not anti.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
We're not only saying that there's no aliens because of logic, right.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
We're saying there's a supernatural component that makes us That
is like having us base our worldview off of the Bible.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Yeah, I'm saying we were trusting the Bible, and we
can trust the Bible. And we don't just trust the
Bible because our parents told us to trust the Bible
or because we grew up in a society that taught
us to trust the Bible. We have we've either traveled
the world enough or experienced enough change in our own
(25:34):
lives to say, now this this word actually testifies through me,
and Jesus says in X one, you will be my
witnesses in Jerusalem, all Judea Samaria and to the end
of the earth, you will be my witnesses. And we
do that through our testimony with the word to a
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from a chain life to a an unbelieving world. There
are countless stories that just don't add up if it's
just a book or just words on the page. So
from that, Barker, So from that we go okay. So
then what does the Bible say about God in the world? No,
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excuse me, God in the universe or the multi verse,
whatever that might be. And there are many verses about
God's reign in the world, God's rain in the galaxy,
god rain in the heavens, God's rain in the universe.
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I got one for you. What'd you what you got? Tie?
Speaker 5 (26:45):
So I don't care about any of this. So it's
hard for me to pay attention just because I understand
how it's fun. I enjoy et it's entertaining Roswell in
New Mexico, like driving through there and seeing it's My
business mind is always like this is some marketing ploy
to get people's money and attention. It's just a distraction
from the truth. Like the whole, the whole Obama and
(27:07):
Trump thing you read at the beginning it's like, what, guys,
what are we talking about?
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Who cares? Are you trying to cover up? No? No, no, no,
it's not even cover up. It's just like they're just
trying to distract us.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
It's like anybody listening, can't we just all agree that,
like there's probably more important things for our world and
our economy than talking about aliens. Like it's just to
me if we if I look at it from that perspective,
it's just like from distraction perspective, it's it's government tech,
it's optical illusions, all the stuff that they can create.
(27:38):
But's of course, like the moon thing, like was that real?
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Was it not?
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Did they create that? Just the moon landing?
Speaker 2 (27:46):
No? Moon?
Speaker 1 (27:47):
The moon? Yeah, the moon is a.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
Projection that the Truman show.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
Yeah, all that stuff. Man, I could that. It's just
a distraction from from the truth to keep people entertained. God, America,
this is what you guys want, isn't it. We're going
to release these folls about alien It's like, no, yeah,
I'm sure you saw something, but it was fabricated. But anyway,
the verse Colossians one sixteen says for by him all
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things were created, and heaven and on earth, visible and invisible,
whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities, all things
were created through him and for him. And so that's
part of the reason why I honestly just don't care.
It's like that verse, man just gives me peace. It's like,
my God is a sovereign god, Like he's not a
territorial god, so to speak. I guess in a way
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he is, but he's not. What I mean by that is,
he's not Earth's god.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
The Verse right after that, too, says he is before
all things, yes, and in him all things hold together.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
It's like, dude, that's my God, that's my guy. Like
he created all the moon, the stars, all the galaxies,
all the universes. Man, it's just like that's all I need.
That's the peace that I need. Like if they're like
I was saying earlier in the before podcast started, like
he rules over real aliens, he rules over fake aliens,
whatever it is, he rules over all.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
So Tyler, an objection that someone might say is, yeah,
I amen to all that, And so why do you
think we're so special that God wouldn't have created a
lot of other worlds? And maybe that's going on right
now like maybe maybe there's another planet somewhere else.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
Yeah, maybe maybe. And again, like I said, that's fun
to think about. I think we all kind of get
entertainment by thinking those things. Specifically, I think you know
everything I I do. I try to go back in
reference to what does Jesus say, was the Bible say,
was a word of God say?
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Doesn't specifically what Mormons believe. Yeah, oh man, that's another
topic for another day. Let's not let's not take them
out of context because we love we love our we
love our friends in the LDS Church, and that's a
different conversation.
Speaker 6 (29:52):
So but we disagree with them.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
But essentially, yeah, you don't to go into I just
wanted to add the footnote. Essentially that's what Joseph Smith
taught in the King's Vault discourse. But we could but
there's some of my friends in the LDIDAS Church said no,
that was taken out of context or written wrong. So
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I don't want to go down that rabbit hole. But Tyler,
let's go back to the question of could there be
other planets with other beings that God made and they're
in our our universe right now?
Speaker 5 (30:29):
Yeah, to your point earlier, I think it's fun to
think about, like with the whole Mars exploration and could
we call algae? Yeah, I was getting there. I was like, yeah,
I think sure, like if there's water on another planet, like,
surely there's something, But as far as the little green
men run around, I mean I don't.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Okay, Yeah, So let me ask you that, do you
think God would have created because someone's asking this right
now in their mind, well, who's to say God didn't
create another planet with a bunch of other people like
hr meaning us? Yeah, yeah, human like beings and they
have their own society. And who just say God didn't
do that? What would you say that?
Speaker 5 (31:08):
I think that's really cool and fun to think about,
but I don't want to get lost and thinking too much,
taking up too much of my time about what IFFs
I got bills to pay? But yeah, it's fun to
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think about.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Would that be characterized as when scripture warns about getting
taken away and obsessed with foolish arguments and controversies and
so they can just be like, I mean, how much
of an idol could that be to just be to
over obsess about something like this?
Speaker 1 (31:46):
I mean, so let me bring up an interesting point
Matthew twenty eight. Jesus says, all authority in heaven and
on Earth has been given to me. So I think
I do think it's foolishness to think that God would
have created another planet. Sure, is it fun to think
that there's a Star Wars type world out there? Whatever? Fine, yeah,
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it's fun, I guess. But but but through Christ, all
authority has been given to him, and so somehow that
group of planets or people are human humanoids would have
to fall under that authority. And he didn't go there.
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He came to this, to the to the dusty near
eastern country, where he was born in a nothing town
and in Bethlehem, and raised in an even more nothing
down to a to a carpenter and his wife in Nazareth.
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And he came up in all humility, born in a
manger of all places. And that's where God chose the
word to become flesh. The incarnate son came to this planet,
and the Bible says, when the fullness of time had come,
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God sent forth his son. So and for whatever reason
it was this planet at that exact time when the
fullness of time become, God sent forth his son. And
there is another day coming when he will return, And
he's not returning in another planet. He's returning to this one,
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to the one where he was born, where and where
he went to the cross to die for sinners, to
all who looked to him would be saved, that he
would become the substitute, the replacement, to take on God's
wrath for the rebellious mankind, that he would become the
replacement and the to take that punishment that we deserved
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upon his own body. That's where he chose to do that,
on planet Earth. And he was not returning to exclicor
Planet ex clicor or whatever. You know, He's not.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
Just imagine being in the gates of Heaven looking over
and there's a little green man like, oh you too, Jesus,
Blood of Jesus saved you shall.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
We got through some sovereignty verses here, Tyler went to
one in Colossums, which is incredible, Act seventeen. The God
who made the world and everything in it, being Lord
of heaven and Earth, does not live in temples made
by man, Nor does he nor is he served by
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human hands, as if we needed anything, since He himself
gives all me kind, life and breath, and everything, and
then it goes on to talk about how he establishes
the boundaries. Romans eleven thirty six is similar to Colossians.
Tiller says, for from him and through him and to
him are all things. To him at be glory forever. Amen,
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these are great all these are great verses for us
to understand a big God theology. Maybe maybe there are
people listening that haven't quite heard of a big God theology.
Maybe there are people that are listening that have a
smaller view of God that like, somehow God and Satan
are like battling it out, like in this little like
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boxing match, and sometimes Satan gets a blow in and
sometimes God gets a good upper cut. And we're kind
of in the middle of this, and like God's just
playing a plane catch up, And when a hurricane hits these,
God just like tries to send some angels in to
swoop in. And that's just not in any way what
the Bible describes saw in one of three nineteen, the
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Lord has established his throne in the heavens, and his
kingdom rules over all all Revelation four eleven. Worthy are
you our Lord and God to receive glory and honor
and power, For you created all things, and by your
will they existed and were created Pheasans one eleven. Him
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who works all things according to the council of his will,
all things according to the council of his will Isaiah
forty six nine. For I am God, and there is
no other. I am God, and there is none like me,
declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times
things not yet done, saying, my counsel shall stand, and
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I will accomplish all my purpose, which he fulfills in
Isaiah fifty three. In Christ's purpose to reconcile its people
to himself. It doesn't happen on another planet Daniel four
thirty five. All the inhabitants of the earth are count
are accounted as nothing, And he does according to his
will among the host of heaven and among the inhabit
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sants of earth. And none can state, can stay his
hand or say to him, what have you done it?
Psalmm fifteen. Our God is in the heavens, and he
does all that he pleases. It's incredible. Big God theology
combined with Ezekiel one, combined with Colossians one, come on
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with John one, combined with Hebrews one combined with Genesis one.
In fact, we haven't done that yet. Why why didn't
we start there at the beginning in the book called
the Beginning Genesis one. In the beginning, God created the
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heavens and the earth. The earth was without form and void,
and darkness was over the face of the deep, and
the spirit of God was hovering over the face of
the waters. And God said, let there be light. And
there was light, and saw that the light was good.
God separated the light from the darkness. God called the
light day, and the darkness he called night. And there
was evening and there was morning the first day.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
So is your point that there's something particular about the
Earth that God cares about that's different than any other planet,
thus proving that there's no life forms on other planets,
or what was your point in the sovereignty versus.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
You know what? You know, what's particular about this planet.
God sent his only son to this planet to reconcile
his people to himself. That's unique enough.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
Yeah, they could have like face timed in or something
I guess right from other planets zoomed in.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
It's also what I was thinking of when you were
reading that just now. It's also God was His spirit
was over before anything else was there. God was here.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Yeah, God was here and God is here. John one
shall be. You want to read it because you were
there yesterday. It was it. I was actually my diva
reading this morning. Then yours is fresher. Oh man, you,
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I love this book so much. In the beginning, all
of these books, sixty six of them, and the word
was with God, and the word was God. He was
in the beginning with God, and all things made through him,
and without him was not anything made. That was made
in him was life, and the life was the light
of men. The light shines in the darkness, and the
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darkness has not overcome it. Then he goes on talking
about John the Baptist, here sometimes confusing for people that
are reading John for the first time, because the author,
the apostle John, is talking about the prophet John the Baptist.
There was a man sent from God whose name was John,
and he came as a witness to bear witness about
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the Light that all might believe through him. He was
not the light, but he came to bear witness about
the light, the true light, which gives light to everyone,
and was coming into the world. He was in the world,
and the world was made through him. Yet the world
did not know him. He came to his own and
his own people did not receive him. But to all
who did receive him, who believed in his name, he
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gave the right to become children of God, who were
born not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh,
nor of the will of man, but of God. And
the Word became flesh and dwelt among us. And we
have seen his glory. Glory is of the only son,
from the Father, full of grace and truth.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
God came to Earth as a man.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
I mean I could sit on that for a long time.
God came to Earth. God, the creator of the farthest
galaxies and the furthest planets, the furthest stars, the furthest
minute molecules, came to Earth and dwelt among us in
the flesh as a man. Truly, Man, truly God. That's incredible.
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Ask me again why Earth is special?
Speaker 5 (41:37):
You know?
Speaker 1 (41:40):
Ask me again how I feel if why we think
that we're special here on Earth and we're not. But
the one that we images and he put us.
Speaker 5 (41:51):
Here, America is pretty special. You see, the US hockey team.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
First time in what forty six?
Speaker 5 (42:02):
Yeah, I saw Trump put himself in as the guy
that scored the goal using AI.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Those are the things that Tyler says that when he says, I'm.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
Done with you talking, I'm sorry he moved He already
said he moved on a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
That's true. Got another book this week, Yeah, we got
a book. It's called Why Trust the Bible. Oh that's interesting, Granger,
that's a coincidence. No, it wasn't a coincidence. Yeah, this
is This is a great little book. Once again, we
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continue on this podcast to put out a book a week,
and we're putting out very short, easy to read books,
small pages. This one written by Greg Gilbert. He's a
pastor in Louisville, Kentucky, and great dude, great Bible teacher.
And this is a very easy to understand apologetic of
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trusting the Bible, talking about translations, talking about don't believe
everything you read, talking about copies, talking about where it
came from, all these like normal questions that we have
about the Bible. So what should they comment below if
they want to, if we want to send them this book.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Why Trust the Bible? No?
Speaker 1 (43:30):
No, no, because that could lead that could leave a bunch
of negative comments on So how about trust the Bible.
Trust the Bible? Cool comment on our YouTube page which
is ninety nine for one the podcast on YouTube. Comment
on this video below this video trust the Bible. And
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so then people that haven't listened and they're just kind
of coming through, they're like, wow, what are all these
comments about trust the Bible? You got some comments?
Speaker 2 (44:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (44:01):
From last week, Trent from Long's, South Carolina said, my
wife has followed your family for years. I've recently taken
a step back into my faith, making major changes and
letting God take full control. I look forward to the
podcast every Monday. I feel like one of the boys
in the truck from Trent like that. Trent Family Worship
was the was last week's word to put up there.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
So that's how they started.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
Love watching and listening every week from Arlington, Texas, and
it's from all about Sports Zone, So someone who has
that account is watching this podcast. So I appreciate that.
Lisa from Saskatchewan, Canada, this is my favorite topic so far.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
I agree. Christian teaching starts at home.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
As parents, we can model the Gospel and teach them
the biblical lessons, but it is up to the Holy
Spirit to bring about conversion. If you believe in the
power of the Holy Trinity, it takes away the fear
that comes from your kids hearing about other faiths.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
Yeah, Lisa, from.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
Any from Pluto or face from Pluto, I was like,
I don't think Tyler's care about this.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
They must have starlink out there. Another thing I would
like people to comment is what if they if there's
an interesting topic they would like us to cover, that
could really help us as we as we think through
what people want to talk about.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
It's good.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Ye, trust the Bible should do that.
Speaker 5 (45:28):
And also like the press, like on which ones to
other people comment and maybe we'll do like the top
Light comment or something like that.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
Yeah, that's true. If you see other people that have
commented a topic you like, comment yourself. Yeah. Yeah, the
Fallen Angels go more on that. Guys, talk about the Nephilm.
I see that, Kevin Park you get anything else? Yeah,
we love you guys. See you next Monday.
What's up. I'm Granger, I'm me Man, I'm Tyler, I'm Parker.
This is the ninety nine for one podcast. Thank you
guys for watching here. We try to seek the one
and equipp the ninety nine to do the same. Comes
from Luke fifteen parable The Lost Sheep, and today his
episode was it we were looking at episode eight? Yeah,
I didn't I last night was the first time I
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noticed that this was the topic for today.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
You want to read the title.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
The title. I don't know if this title is going
to stick or not, but it's pretty funny. It says,
does the Bible talk about little Green men?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Does it? You think it does?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I guess it needs to be addressed. And why are
we talking about this today?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Well, on Brian Tyler Colan's podcast, President Obama was asked
in a quick fire question round, are aliens real?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Here's what he said, They're real.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
He then added that he hasn't seen any personally and
that they aren't being kept at Area fifty one in some.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Secret facility, but he said they are real.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
So Trump was asked about what Obama said, and this
just added fuel to the fire because this was his reply. Well,
he gave classified information. Terrible impersonation, but he's not supposed
to be doing that. I don't know if they're real
or not. I can tell you he gave classified information
though he's not supposed to be doing that. He made
a big mistake. He took it out of a out
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of classified information.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
How many times did he have to say that in
the one paragraph?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Well, see that helps if you actually can do a
good Trump impersonation, because he repeats everything thirty four or
five six times. But then he shared this on Truth
Social based on the tremendous interest shown, I'll be directing
the Secretary of War and other relevant departments and agencies
to begin the process of identifying and releasing government files
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related to alien and extraterrestrial life, unidentified aerial phenomenon, and
unidentified flying objects, and any and all other information connected
to these highly complex, but extremely interesting and important matters.
He wrote that on Truth Social and then God bless America.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
So first question, this did you pull this straight from
from that data? Like the question to Obama, are aliens real?
Is that is that the exact word is the exact word?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Aliens?
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:19):
It was a quick fire, uh quick, a quick question
and a quick answer, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
And so then we'd have to define what what he
meant by what Tyler Cohen meant, Brian Tyler Cohen meant
by aliens.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
I'm assuming just the normal, like somewhere from outer space.
That's I mean, what would you classify it as well?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
It could you say that some kind of bacteria growing
on Mars.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
No, I think that mean little green men?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
But did did he or not? I mean, because that's
what I mean, like what it could be microbacteria on
that they saw growing on Venus or something.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I think when the questions asked, that's not implied. Yeah,
like what's implied? Are there? You know, Skinny Gray short you.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Know, let's go around circle here on who believes in
if there would be little green men? No, no, let
me rephrase that humanoid humanoid organic species.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Non human intelligence. No, that's how they classify. That's AI.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Oh yeah, no, what is it they use?
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Sorry, that's why I said organic. That's right, organic intelligence
or no, we don't have to say organic because it
could just be if it's an intelligence from outside planet Earth,
then it wouldn't be our AI. So you could say
because maybe they are robotic like transformers. Remember transformers were
not organic.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
I'm seeing sentient biological beings from other planets.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Okay, but biological confusing because like because of transformers, because
of optimist Prime is more than meets the eye, and
he is not biological. So let's just call it, for
the sake of this podcast, intelligent life forms that didn't
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originate from this particular planet in this solar system. Let's
go around. Do I think yes or no?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
No?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Tyler?
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Sorry, I was thinking this is a yes or no question,
yes or no? Do I believe in little green men?
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Not believe in little green men? Do you do you trust?
Can you affirm the existence in your mind of a
intelligent being of some sort, not talking about God, the
intelligent being or species that originates outside of the planet Earth. Yes, purer.
Speaker 6 (04:59):
Angels are added being outside.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Let's not think.
Speaker 6 (05:05):
The way that you're asking. Do I believe aliens?
Speaker 1 (05:07):
No? Okay, I must say no. All right, Tyler, you still,
even after you redefined it, you're still saying no. I
mean you're saying yes. Okay, then you're the one talking
right now.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
What you got?
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Okay? He said yes or no question. That's why I
said yes.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
But for aliens, I believe we have already been invaded,
but not through little green men, through demons and Satan.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Okay, that's no, Tyler, that's a trick. No, no, no, no,
it's not a trick because we all agree, are we
we're just talking e t Yeah, we're talking something non,
something extra biblical. Yeah. So I'm back to know if
you want me to expand on my nokden off in
the distance, Yes or no? We're all a boring no
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in this room there's the podcast in here. No it
should not because we're.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
Going to be a lot of yes is listening right now?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
How about how would we incorporate this a little bit?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Because Granger and I work on a show called After
Midnight and we have proposed this question on that show. Yeah,
and there have been emphatic yesses on that show because
people who listen to that it's a third shift show,
so it goes from midnight to six am.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
These are people who either can't sleep, don't sleep, don't
want to sleep, or work during that time. And a
lot of those people are the people who work and
are on the road. So yes, truck drivers, bus drivers,
delivery drivers and stuff like that. They've seen some stories
that have been I will say if you if you
tune out everything else and just listen to the story,
like I'm convinced that they are convinced that they saw something.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
I agree, Yeah, I agree that they are convinced that
they're convinced.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
I I Also, we could put it into that same
category paranormal activity. Like ghost You could say the same
argument with ghosts, bigfoot aliens, bigfoot monsters, all those things
could be in the same category. First, I want to
go to before we kind of establish an argument here.
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I want to go to First Corinthians because it's fresh
on my mind, and Pastor Stephen preached that at our
church a few days ago. He definitely didn't He didn't
use aliens in his exe Jesus. But so don't make
me think that Chapter ten, First Corinthianscepter ten. I don't
want anyone to think that that's we preached about aliens
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our church. We did not. But there's an interesting little
part here in that that I think about in this context,
and let me find the spot here. No, so he
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says in verse nineteen, what do I imply then that
food offered to idols is anything or that idle or
that an idol is anything verse twenty, No, I imply that
what pagan sacrifice they offer to demons and not to God.
I do not want you to be participants with demons.
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You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the
cup of demons. You cannot partake of the table of
the Lord and the table of demons. He says it
every verse in the little section, every one of them
talking about demons. Demons are something. It's not really something
that sane people talk about these days. But if we're
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on the topic of ghost and bigfoot and aliens, we
might as well bring demons into this, because this is
the being, the entity, the species. I guess that we
can all get behind. I read a one time in
a systematic theology book talking about angels that this guy
was claiming that angels are there, every angel is its
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own species. About that was interesting, And if a demon
is a fallen angel, you could technically say the same thing,
every demon is its own species, because in the Bible,
there are no angels that are that that share those
I identifying qualities of a species. If you're thinking Old Testament,
sure so, it'd be interesting to think about demons as
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their own species. We all affirm all of us in
this room affirmed demons. And we know that they exist,
and we know that they they have an agenda. And
I think that in my mind, bigfoot ghosts of any kind,
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aliens included, all the sightings, if the person is crazy
or not, could all be put under the umbrella of demons.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
See, that's where I believe to I think that it
has to do. I think alien sightings, alien encounters all
have to do with encounters of something that is why
do we say it at the beginning, not organically of this.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
World, yeah, intelligence, that's not origine Earth. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
So I guess in that in that, in that essence
that a demon would be not only we're aliens technically
in this world.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah. And so we we know that there's a there's
a spiritual warfare. We know that in fact we should
we should address that too. Just be clear here Ephesians
six is where we go to this where he says,
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find a good starting place for we do not wrestle
against Fushian blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities,
against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the
spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places. Therefore, he
makes the argument about taking up the whole armor of
God that you may be able to withstand the evil day.
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So we are in a spiritual war. The battle is
waging around us. The Bible tells us to be strong
in the Lord, to stand firm, and gives us the
tools that we need to stand firm that don't originate
in ourselves. But all of this to say that when
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someone says they see something weird or strange or crazy
or paranormal, as Christians, we go to the Bible. We
go Yeah, I know it's in It's right here. So
to our title, whatever the title of this podcast is
going to be, gives us plenty of room for the
paranormal strange things.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Yeah, you know a lot of people. I think we've
even talked about this too. Just in passing is that
we Ezekiel when he's crazy is just it is baffling,
And I say battling if you if you read through
it though, it kind of kind of really in chapter
what is in chapter one one? And then in chapter
ten he kind of sums everything up a little bit
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there too, And in chapter ten these beings are identify
identified as Cherubim, a specific class of angelic beings and uh,
but you know, even with what he's saying in Ezekiel
one one is just I mean, you're gonna.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Read some of that, do you have let me pull
that up?
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, you go ahead. I mean, I'm I don't want
to hug up all the Bible here. Speaking of Cherubim though,
you know that the the the idea of chaerubhim. You
guys remember where that started. I don't mean it, I
could do a test or anything, but do you remember
where the idea of Cherubim where it first appears arc
right before before then? Yeah, you had the That was
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the answer to the second question that you haven't asked yet.
The first question is, well, they they they're in the garden.
Oh okay, remember they that Adam has kicked out. Adam
and Eve are kicked out, and the cherub them come in.
And the second time it appears in the Bible is
the building of the arc. Yeah, and the chairb them
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appear again. So there these guards, you know, guarding what
is holy. It's an interesting thought, yeah, and so terrifying thought.
So you've got in mind the glory of the verse four.
As I looked, behold a storm wind came out of
the north in a great cloud with brightness around it,
and fire flashing forth continually in the midst of the fire,
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as it was gleaming metal, And from the midst of
it came the likeness of four living creatures, and this
was the appearance. They had human likeness, but each had
four faces. Each of them had four wings.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Their legs were straight, and the soles of their feet
were like the sole of a calf's foot, and they
sparkled like bronze, like burnished bronze under their wings and
their fore sides. They had human hands. And the four
had their faces and their wings. Thus their wings touched
one another. Each one of them went straightforward around without
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turning as they went. The likeness of their faces. Each
had human faces. I was looking for the anya this
is I mean, it sounds like somebody telling you of sighting.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
You know, now you know?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
And each went straightforward whenever the spirit would go. They
went without turning as they went. And for the likeness
of the living creatures, their appearance was like burning coals
of fire, like the appearance of torches moving to and
fro among living creatures. And the fire was bright and
out of the fire went forth lightning, and the living
creatures departed to and fro, like the appearance of a
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flash flighting.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Yep, and here's Genesis four. This is the first time
we hear something like this. Twenty three. Therefore, the Lord
God sent him out of the garden, talking about Adam
to work the ground from which he was taken. He
drove out the man and at the east, and at
the east of the garden of Eden he placed the
Cherubim and a flaming sword that turned away, that turned
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every way to guard the way of the Tree of life.
And a flaming sword that turned every way to guard
the way of the Tree of life. It's a strange sentence,
just like Ezekiel. And then we see it again. Come
when they're building the the Arc of the Covenant to
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house the Ten Commandments, the tablets in the budding rod,
and the mana. It's wild stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
In ten.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Then I looked and behold the expanse that was over
the heads of the Cherubim. There appeared above them something
like sapphire in appearance, like a throne. And he said
to the man clothes in lenin go and among the
whirling wheels underneath the chair of them the first sighting
right here.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
No, no joke, man, So you're in Ezekiel ten. Yeah, man,
we have to just touch on on Ezekiel one because
that's just one of the crazies.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Did I miss that? That's what I was reading that first?
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Is that where you were first? You just went to
went to.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
What I missed from one.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
The the the these creatures come out of the wind. Yeah,
just another weird thing. But that did you always hear
with these sightings? Like the wind kicks up and it's
dark and and the wind came out of the north
in a great cloud with brightness around it, fire flashing
forth continually in the midst of the fire as if
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it was gleaming metal. That just sounds like something straight
out of Steven Spielberg. Yeah, the beginning of a movie.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
The only thing that was left out of this was
the crop circle that left. Yeah, so what what shows
up at now these files? As of the recording of
this hasn't the files haven't been released. So do we
just get Ezekiel out of the files?
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Is it? So? There are people listening right now that
are going, oh, you guys don't know what I know.
I know that just because I know, I know, I
know the people that comment you know that, oh you guys,
are you guys don't know what I know? Or my
cousins of pilot and he saw this, or you guys
obviously are not following the so and so files that
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that you know or top secret you need to look up.
What we see a lot in the comments is is like,
please do research on this particular person right and there,
and what he what he has to say. Thoughts Perker
on that.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Just how people have have personal experiences or have done
research on the top consider're confident that they're No.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Yeah, people will say I saw something or my mother
saw something unforgettable.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Yeah, I mean, I just don't think that scripture supports
what they're considering to be aliens. I think that it
was either delusion or something man made, or something angelic
or demonic.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
How do you know you're not delusional?
Speaker 6 (18:30):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
But to my best ability, I'm looking to the roadmap
of life, which is the Bible. That's how we figure
out what's going on and what is objective reality and
what's not. And God could have explicitly mentioned these sentient
biological beings, but he didn't. He left that part out,
(18:53):
And so I think the main argument that people would
say against the idea that there are no aliens, or
to word that in the positive would be the best
excuse that they would give that there are aliens is
that how could there be that many planets out there
in that big of a universe and not be some
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form of life. But from that worldview, like I was
just talking to Zach about it this morning, that worldview
just has such a small idea of humanity. That secular,
non religious, atheistic worldview that has a low view of
God just assumes that all of us right now in
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this room are just just bags of flesh making noises
out of our face on a blue marble, floating in
blackness in the middle of a endless universe with trillions
and trillions of other planets out there, and we are
literally nothing but just chance that we just so happened
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to strong eating the week and here we are just
talking and life is meaningless, you know. And so in
that aspect, of course, there's other trillions of other universes
and people and stuff because we're just one of like,
but you know, but the Bible has something specific about
like mankind, like Tyler and I were talking to Marshall
this morning, our pastor. He was like, mankind is the
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pinnacle of creation. So on one hand this is kind
of a tangent. But on one hand you could say, well,
you're just super self righteous. You just think all the
universe revolves around you. How can you believe that when
there's trillions of other planets. But in one sense mankind,
there is something particular about mankind that we can make
the argument as Christians if the Bible is true, which
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we believe it is, that mankind is the pinnacle of
God's creations. So it would make sense that there are
trillions of other galaxies out there with no other life
because God specifically chose something special about human beings and
planet Earth. And so why did he create trillions of
other planets and knows everyone by name.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
If there's no.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Life, what's to display his glory and to show how
much he he's mindful of mankind?
Speaker 1 (21:06):
That's good man. So maybe an ancient alien species from
the History channel came to the Pyramids in Egypt and
planted their seed, and that's where we came from. Somebody's
thinking that not you guys, but speaking out loud, you
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know in my mind when I hear stuff like that,
my mind always says, where do they come from? Yeah,
like did we come because maybe we didn't I'm speaking
of the critic. Maybe we didn't come from nothing, from
pons com. Maybe we actually came from a seeding, you know,
from another from another planet, another planet, and that like
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their their resources ran out like the Superman story or
something like Kryptonite was getting destroyed. They came for whatever reason,
for whatever strange reason, they seated Earth and then they
left or they died, and they left us nothing to
deal with anything. And so it took a lot of
years to develop a technology which they could have just said,
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you know, as babies like here here, here's how to
like do things, here's how to here's how to advance quickly.
You think they would do that, but they just disappeared
on us. But I always think, where do they come from?
Because if we didn't come from nothing, if we came
from a seed, well then some species had to have
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been created. We're getting into another probably another topic of
this podcast, on creation versus evolution. We could we could
do that, we did another time. That's not what we're doing.
So let's not go to that rabbitle But what where
where do we stand in the Bible with to back
up what Parker's saying about humanity being the pinnacle of creation,
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which we find in Genesis, that it would be not
because we're, as Perker said, like you know all about
ourselves are egotistical, but because we're we are very unique
on this planet. And and the Bible is not something
we read and are forced to believe, but it actually
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the Word begins to in believers testify through us and
in the resulting of changed lives. I'm one. Everyone in
this room is one. Their lives have been radically changed
in a way that we couldn't have just made a
decision to follow a book, an ancient book, and then
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are well, we've all made decisions that don't line up
with logic and felt peace in those decisions that don't
line up with anatomy, you know what I mean. So
the Word testifies through lives, which is why we tell
a testimony. That's why you hear someone go, I want
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to tell you my testimony. Let me tell you what
the Lord did to change my life, to save me
from death to life, from dark to light, from blind
to see, and let me show you, let me show
you in the Bible how that happened, and let me
show you about my life and my story the crazy
(24:30):
way that he did it. And that is what becomes undeniable,
that the Bible is more than an ancient book that
works out really well. If you study your history and
you add up evidence, that's cool, it's cool, But really
the greatest evidence is a changed life.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
So your point is, we're not anti.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
We're not only saying that there's no aliens because of logic, right.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
We're saying there's a supernatural component that makes us That
is like having us base our worldview off of the Bible.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Yeah, I'm saying we were trusting the Bible, and we
can trust the Bible. And we don't just trust the
Bible because our parents told us to trust the Bible
or because we grew up in a society that taught
us to trust the Bible. We have we've either traveled
the world enough or experienced enough change in our own
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lives to say, now this this word actually testifies through me,
and Jesus says in X one, you will be my
witnesses in Jerusalem, all Judea Samaria and to the end
of the earth, you will be my witnesses. And we
do that through our testimony with the word to a
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from a chain life to a an unbelieving world. There
are countless stories that just don't add up if it's
just a book or just words on the page. So
from that, Barker, So from that we go okay. So
then what does the Bible say about God in the world? No,
(26:20):
excuse me, God in the universe or the multi verse,
whatever that might be. And there are many verses about
God's reign in the world, God's rain in the galaxy,
god rain in the heavens, God's rain in the universe.
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I got one for you. What'd you what you got? Tie?
Speaker 5 (26:45):
So I don't care about any of this. So it's
hard for me to pay attention just because I understand
how it's fun. I enjoy et it's entertaining Roswell in
New Mexico, like driving through there and seeing it's My
business mind is always like this is some marketing ploy
to get people's money and attention. It's just a distraction
from the truth. Like the whole, the whole Obama and
(27:07):
Trump thing you read at the beginning it's like, what, guys,
what are we talking about?
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Who cares? Are you trying to cover up? No? No, no, no,
it's not even cover up. It's just like they're just
trying to distract us.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
It's like anybody listening, can't we just all agree that,
like there's probably more important things for our world and
our economy than talking about aliens. Like it's just to
me if we if I look at it from that perspective,
it's just like from distraction perspective, it's it's government tech,
it's optical illusions, all the stuff that they can create.
(27:38):
But's of course, like the moon thing, like was that real?
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Was it not?
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Did they create that? Just the moon landing?
Speaker 2 (27:46):
No? Moon?
Speaker 1 (27:47):
The moon? Yeah, the moon is a.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
Projection that the Truman show.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
Yeah, all that stuff. Man, I could that. It's just
a distraction from from the truth to keep people entertained. God, America,
this is what you guys want, isn't it. We're going
to release these folls about alien It's like, no, yeah,
I'm sure you saw something, but it was fabricated. But anyway,
the verse Colossians one sixteen says for by him all
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things were created, and heaven and on earth, visible and invisible,
whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities, all things
were created through him and for him. And so that's
part of the reason why I honestly just don't care.
It's like that verse, man just gives me peace. It's like,
my God is a sovereign god, Like he's not a
territorial god, so to speak. I guess in a way
(28:35):
he is, but he's not. What I mean by that is,
he's not Earth's god.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
The Verse right after that, too, says he is before
all things, yes, and in him all things hold together.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
It's like, dude, that's my God, that's my guy. Like
he created all the moon, the stars, all the galaxies,
all the universes. Man, it's just like that's all I need.
That's the peace that I need. Like if they're like
I was saying earlier in the before podcast started, like
he rules over real aliens, he rules over fake aliens,
whatever it is, he rules over all.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
So Tyler, an objection that someone might say is, yeah,
I amen to all that, And so why do you
think we're so special that God wouldn't have created a
lot of other worlds? And maybe that's going on right
now like maybe maybe there's another planet somewhere else.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
Yeah, maybe maybe. And again, like I said, that's fun
to think about. I think we all kind of get
entertainment by thinking those things. Specifically, I think you know
everything I I do. I try to go back in
reference to what does Jesus say, was the Bible say,
was a word of God say?
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Doesn't specifically what Mormons believe. Yeah, oh man, that's another
topic for another day. Let's not let's not take them
out of context because we love we love our we
love our friends in the LDS Church, and that's a
different conversation.
Speaker 6 (29:52):
So but we disagree with them.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
But essentially, yeah, you don't to go into I just
wanted to add the footnote. Essentially that's what Joseph Smith
taught in the King's Vault discourse. But we could but
there's some of my friends in the LDIDAS Church said no,
that was taken out of context or written wrong. So
(30:15):
I don't want to go down that rabbit hole. But Tyler,
let's go back to the question of could there be
other planets with other beings that God made and they're
in our our universe right now?
Speaker 5 (30:29):
Yeah, to your point earlier, I think it's fun to
think about, like with the whole Mars exploration and could
we call algae? Yeah, I was getting there. I was like, yeah,
I think sure, like if there's water on another planet, like,
surely there's something, But as far as the little green
men run around, I mean I don't.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Okay, Yeah, So let me ask you that, do you
think God would have created because someone's asking this right
now in their mind, well, who's to say God didn't
create another planet with a bunch of other people like
hr meaning us? Yeah, yeah, human like beings and they
have their own society. And who just say God didn't
do that? What would you say that?
Speaker 5 (31:08):
I think that's really cool and fun to think about,
but I don't want to get lost and thinking too much,
taking up too much of my time about what IFFs
I got bills to pay? But yeah, it's fun to
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think about.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Would that be characterized as when scripture warns about getting
taken away and obsessed with foolish arguments and controversies and
so they can just be like, I mean, how much
of an idol could that be to just be to
over obsess about something like this?
Speaker 1 (31:46):
I mean, so let me bring up an interesting point
Matthew twenty eight. Jesus says, all authority in heaven and
on Earth has been given to me. So I think
I do think it's foolishness to think that God would
have created another planet. Sure, is it fun to think
that there's a Star Wars type world out there? Whatever? Fine, yeah,
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it's fun, I guess. But but but through Christ, all
authority has been given to him, and so somehow that
group of planets or people are human humanoids would have
to fall under that authority. And he didn't go there.
(32:33):
He came to this, to the to the dusty near
eastern country, where he was born in a nothing town
and in Bethlehem, and raised in an even more nothing
down to a to a carpenter and his wife in Nazareth.
(32:54):
And he came up in all humility, born in a
manger of all places. And that's where God chose the
word to become flesh. The incarnate son came to this planet,
and the Bible says, when the fullness of time had come,
(33:15):
God sent forth his son. So and for whatever reason
it was this planet at that exact time when the
fullness of time become, God sent forth his son. And
there is another day coming when he will return, And
he's not returning in another planet. He's returning to this one,
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to the one where he was born, where and where
he went to the cross to die for sinners, to
all who looked to him would be saved, that he
would become the substitute, the replacement, to take on God's
wrath for the rebellious mankind, that he would become the
replacement and the to take that punishment that we deserved
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upon his own body. That's where he chose to do that,
on planet Earth. And he was not returning to exclicor
Planet ex clicor or whatever. You know, He's not.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
Just imagine being in the gates of Heaven looking over
and there's a little green man like, oh you too, Jesus,
Blood of Jesus saved you shall.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
We got through some sovereignty verses here, Tyler went to
one in Colossums, which is incredible, Act seventeen. The God
who made the world and everything in it, being Lord
of heaven and Earth, does not live in temples made
by man, Nor does he nor is he served by
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human hands, as if we needed anything, since He himself
gives all me kind, life and breath, and everything, and
then it goes on to talk about how he establishes
the boundaries. Romans eleven thirty six is similar to Colossians.
Tiller says, for from him and through him and to
him are all things. To him at be glory forever. Amen,
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these are great all these are great verses for us
to understand a big God theology. Maybe maybe there are
people listening that haven't quite heard of a big God theology.
Maybe there are people that are listening that have a
smaller view of God that like, somehow God and Satan
are like battling it out, like in this little like
(35:42):
boxing match, and sometimes Satan gets a blow in and
sometimes God gets a good upper cut. And we're kind
of in the middle of this, and like God's just
playing a plane catch up, And when a hurricane hits these,
God just like tries to send some angels in to
swoop in. And that's just not in any way what
the Bible describes saw in one of three nineteen, the
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Lord has established his throne in the heavens, and his
kingdom rules over all all Revelation four eleven. Worthy are
you our Lord and God to receive glory and honor
and power, For you created all things, and by your
will they existed and were created Pheasans one eleven. Him
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who works all things according to the council of his will,
all things according to the council of his will Isaiah
forty six nine. For I am God, and there is
no other. I am God, and there is none like me,
declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times
things not yet done, saying, my counsel shall stand, and
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I will accomplish all my purpose, which he fulfills in
Isaiah fifty three. In Christ's purpose to reconcile its people
to himself. It doesn't happen on another planet Daniel four
thirty five. All the inhabitants of the earth are count
are accounted as nothing, And he does according to his
will among the host of heaven and among the inhabit
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sants of earth. And none can state, can stay his
hand or say to him, what have you done it?
Psalmm fifteen. Our God is in the heavens, and he
does all that he pleases. It's incredible. Big God theology
combined with Ezekiel one, combined with Colossians one, come on
(37:34):
with John one, combined with Hebrews one combined with Genesis one.
In fact, we haven't done that yet. Why why didn't
we start there at the beginning in the book called
the Beginning Genesis one. In the beginning, God created the
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heavens and the earth. The earth was without form and void,
and darkness was over the face of the deep, and
the spirit of God was hovering over the face of
the waters. And God said, let there be light. And
there was light, and saw that the light was good.
God separated the light from the darkness. God called the
light day, and the darkness he called night. And there
was evening and there was morning the first day.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
So is your point that there's something particular about the
Earth that God cares about that's different than any other planet,
thus proving that there's no life forms on other planets,
or what was your point in the sovereignty versus.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
You know what? You know, what's particular about this planet.
God sent his only son to this planet to reconcile
his people to himself. That's unique enough.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
Yeah, they could have like face timed in or something
I guess right from other planets zoomed in.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
It's also what I was thinking of when you were
reading that just now. It's also God was His spirit
was over before anything else was there. God was here.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Yeah, God was here and God is here. John one
shall be. You want to read it because you were
there yesterday. It was it. I was actually my diva
reading this morning. Then yours is fresher. Oh man, you,
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I love this book so much. In the beginning, all
of these books, sixty six of them, and the word
was with God, and the word was God. He was
in the beginning with God, and all things made through him,
and without him was not anything made. That was made
in him was life, and the life was the light
of men. The light shines in the darkness, and the
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darkness has not overcome it. Then he goes on talking
about John the Baptist, here sometimes confusing for people that
are reading John for the first time, because the author,
the apostle John, is talking about the prophet John the Baptist.
There was a man sent from God whose name was John,
and he came as a witness to bear witness about
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the Light that all might believe through him. He was
not the light, but he came to bear witness about
the light, the true light, which gives light to everyone,
and was coming into the world. He was in the world,
and the world was made through him. Yet the world
did not know him. He came to his own and
his own people did not receive him. But to all
who did receive him, who believed in his name, he
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gave the right to become children of God, who were
born not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh,
nor of the will of man, but of God. And
the Word became flesh and dwelt among us. And we
have seen his glory. Glory is of the only son,
from the Father, full of grace and truth.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
God came to Earth as a man.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
I mean I could sit on that for a long time.
God came to Earth. God, the creator of the farthest
galaxies and the furthest planets, the furthest stars, the furthest
minute molecules, came to Earth and dwelt among us in
the flesh as a man. Truly, Man, truly God. That's incredible.
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Ask me again why Earth is special?
Speaker 5 (41:37):
You know?
Speaker 1 (41:40):
Ask me again how I feel if why we think
that we're special here on Earth and we're not. But
the one that we images and he put us.
Speaker 5 (41:51):
Here, America is pretty special. You see, the US hockey team.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
First time in what forty six?
Speaker 5 (42:02):
Yeah, I saw Trump put himself in as the guy
that scored the goal using AI.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Those are the things that Tyler says that when he says, I'm.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
Done with you talking, I'm sorry he moved He already
said he moved on a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
That's true. Got another book this week, Yeah, we got
a book. It's called Why Trust the Bible. Oh that's interesting, Granger,
that's a coincidence. No, it wasn't a coincidence. Yeah, this
is This is a great little book. Once again, we
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continue on this podcast to put out a book a week,
and we're putting out very short, easy to read books,
small pages. This one written by Greg Gilbert. He's a
pastor in Louisville, Kentucky, and great dude, great Bible teacher.
And this is a very easy to understand apologetic of
(43:06):
trusting the Bible, talking about translations, talking about don't believe
everything you read, talking about copies, talking about where it
came from, all these like normal questions that we have
about the Bible. So what should they comment below if
they want to, if we want to send them this book.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Why Trust the Bible? No?
Speaker 1 (43:30):
No, no, because that could lead that could leave a bunch
of negative comments on So how about trust the Bible.
Trust the Bible? Cool comment on our YouTube page which
is ninety nine for one the podcast on YouTube. Comment
on this video below this video trust the Bible. And
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so then people that haven't listened and they're just kind
of coming through, they're like, wow, what are all these
comments about trust the Bible? You got some comments?
Speaker 2 (44:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (44:01):
From last week, Trent from Long's, South Carolina said, my
wife has followed your family for years. I've recently taken
a step back into my faith, making major changes and
letting God take full control. I look forward to the
podcast every Monday. I feel like one of the boys
in the truck from Trent like that. Trent Family Worship
was the was last week's word to put up there.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
So that's how they started.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
Love watching and listening every week from Arlington, Texas, and
it's from all about Sports Zone, So someone who has
that account is watching this podcast. So I appreciate that.
Lisa from Saskatchewan, Canada, this is my favorite topic so far.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
I agree. Christian teaching starts at home.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
As parents, we can model the Gospel and teach them
the biblical lessons, but it is up to the Holy
Spirit to bring about conversion. If you believe in the
power of the Holy Trinity, it takes away the fear
that comes from your kids hearing about other faiths.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
Yeah, Lisa, from.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
Any from Pluto or face from Pluto, I was like,
I don't think Tyler's care about this.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
They must have starlink out there. Another thing I would
like people to comment is what if they if there's
an interesting topic they would like us to cover, that
could really help us as we as we think through
what people want to talk about.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
It's good.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Ye, trust the Bible should do that.
Speaker 5 (45:28):
And also like the press, like on which ones to
other people comment and maybe we'll do like the top
Light comment or something like that.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
Yeah, that's true. If you see other people that have
commented a topic you like, comment yourself. Yeah. Yeah, the
Fallen Angels go more on that. Guys, talk about the Nephilm.
I see that, Kevin Park you get anything else? Yeah,
we love you guys. See you next Monday.
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