March 16, 2026 • 58 mins
What does it really mean to not be conformed to the world? In this episode of the 99 For One Podcast, Granger Smith and the crew dive deep into Romans 12:2 and explore the biblical call to be transformed by the renewing of your mind.
The conversation moves beyond surface-level Christianity and into the practical realities of following Jesus in a culture constantly shaping our thoughts, habits, and desires. From entertainment choices and social influences to the idols we don’t even realize we’ve created, the guys discuss how everything around us is forming us into something—and why believers must intentionally pursue transformation through Christ.
They also unpack powerful themes like sanctification, humility, and God’s sovereignty, wrestling with the tension between human responsibility and God’s grace. Along the way, the discussion turns personal as they share real examples of cutting off things that pull them toward worldly conformity and replacing them with habits that lead to spiritual growth.
If you’ve ever wondered how to live faithfully in a culture pulling you in the opposite direction, this episode offers a candid and biblical perspective on daily discipleship, dying to self, and pursuing Christ above everything else.
Listen in and consider the challenge:
What in your life is shaping you—and is it drawing you closer to Christ or conforming you to the world?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, I'm Granger, I am the Aman, I'm Tyler, I'm Parker.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
This is the ninety nine for one podcast. Thank you
all for being here. We get together on Tuesdays or
record these things, and we don't always know what we're
going to talk about before we get into it. Last
week we're talking about war. I'm laughing because we said
that discussion. I saw last week's video that we recorded
and talked about war, and you're like, so we're in
(00:25):
World War three? In my face, I looked at Jego. Oh,
I'm like, man, we're such brothers. We are. We have
three brothers by the way, and then ant Man's brothers, and.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
But you are starting to look at me like that.
I want to say things so I should feel accepted.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Right. Do you have the comment somebody said about Tyler
last week? They said, I want it, that's great. Where
was it said? I want to live I want to
live under the rock that Tyler lives under. Being so
far removed to not hear about war. That sounds so peaceful.
(01:06):
Where's this rock located?
Speaker 4 (01:08):
It kind of goes into what I guess we're talking
about today, which is what you fill your mind with, what.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
You consume right, It's exactly right. I just I consume
if we could all live under the rock Tyler's living,
the peaceful rock that Tyler's living under, we could we
would do better to deal with passages like Romans twelve
to two. This is so important and I think we should.
This is a good idea to dive into this today,
because I think it's not often talked about in the
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modern Christian life, and we've I'm not I'm not talking
about the specific verse. I'm talking about the implications of it.
The verse Romans twelfth two says, do not be conformed
to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of
your mind. And it goes on to say that by
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testing you made discern what is the world of God,
what is good and acceptable and perfect. And Paul starts
that chapter by saying, I appeal to you, therefore, brothers,
by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as
a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is
your spiritual worship. What does holy mean? We should think
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about that for a second, because that's a word that's
been lost and in modern culture.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Yeah, it's a word that came up when we started
talking about cussing, because it's been it's been hijacked for sure.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah, it's been hijacked. That and the word saint kind
of which, interestingly enough, in the Latin those are those
are those are similar words santos sanctos, you know, thinking
thinking about Spanish holy sanctified is in that same category.
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But these we are to be set apart because God
is set apart. So God is set apart from us,
and we should be set apart from the world when
we are, when we when we receive the gift of
the Holy Spirit, when we are reborn, when we are
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born again, when we become Christians. It's like the guy
Mikey from Louisiana that always hangs out with this last week.
He never says Christian. He says when I became a
born again Christian, When I became a born again Christian.
He never says, since it's been as Christian or just
Christian's when I became a born again Christian.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
I was listening to Travis the other day and he said,
that's why he says he doesn't say when did you
become a Christian? Just because of in our cultural context
that that that word has lost its weight entirely. If
you if you ask someone in Nigeria right now, or
like in another country where that's persecuted, that would be
a big deal. When did you become a Christian?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Brother? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:58):
But here it means nothing. And so that's Travis that
he ask people when did you decide to start following
the Lord? And it's like, ah, that is is has
a little more weight because it implies, it implies something active.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
And I would one up. I would one up that
by saying the deeper. The deeper idea is when did
the Lord save you? Because deciding to follow the Lord,
which is totally accurate, is something that people can manipulate
in their own mind. I decided when I was seven,
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or I decided when I was four years old, And
because then I would say, what else did you decide
as a four year old?
Speaker 1 (04:42):
If I was going to be a firefighter? You know
that was going to be a cop, and it.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Was like the app between apple juice and peanut butter
or you know. So anyway that the idea of when
did the Lord save you? It goes it cuts a
little deeper.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Well, that's going to be really controversial though, because then
you're implying that there's no personal responsibility in salvation. You
don't take it. No one makes a choice.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
There's absolute responsibility. Of course, we we believe that there's responsibility.
This is good, this this podcast already going. We have
decided earlier we're just going to record you know this,
like we should just do it because we do this
all the time, Kate.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
And if you can get two or three out of this,
one would be good.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Okay. We always we have we maintain the responsibility to
respond to the Lord. And that's why we pray that
someone that if you have an unbelieving friend, you pray
for them that the Lord saves them. Oh God, please
save Mike. You know he's lost, he's he's an atheist,
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and what Lord would you save Mike? And so that's
so then it's Mike's responsibility to respond to that to
the call. But but that's why I say, if we
start the question with when did the Lord save you,
it's a direct it's coming directly from the idea that
we pray for people to be saved, that the Lord
would do it.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Because Jesus's own words said, no one can come to
me unless the Father draws them. So we pray that
the Father would draw them to Jesus.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Lord, please draw Mike to yourself. Open his eyes like
the blind man that said, I don't know who he is.
All I know is I was blind and now I
see And he did it. He's the one that did it.
So anyway, to the topic of Christian living and to
the topic of what do we do? What do we
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do when we are when the Lord has opened our eyes?
When we did, when we did decide to follow Jesus,
when we when we were blind, and now we see?
What do we do now? We look at John fourteen? Right?
What what are his commandments? Yeah? What does he want?
Who is he? Who is this God? Yeah? That's right. Yeah,
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if anyone would come after me, let him deny himself.
Or if anyone loves me, he'll keep my word. Or
right here in Romans twelve, do not be conformed to
this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind.
So what does it mean to be conformed to the world?
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And how do we not? How do we not do that?
It's it's it's easier now, I think to say that
than it was in the Middle Ages or in the
Dark Ages, when there there wasn't a lot of conforming
going on to the to the farmer in the in
in France, in the Middle Ages. You know, he just
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wakes up every day, he's got his plow and he
goes back out there. The world is was not that
close to him as it is to us.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
If you're not I'm struggling a little bit with this.
If how to how to say this? But if if
you're not already conformed to the world, there's no need
to be transformed. So it kind of tells me that
you are conformed. But no, law, don't continue to go
down the path of being conformed.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Say that one more time for my brain.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
There would be no need to be transformed. If you
weren't already conformed. Yeah, I'm gonna say these so many
times they're gonna lose their meeting. Yeah, yeah, you ever
do that? You say words so many times, you're like,
I forgot what I was saying. Now, So if it
which I think this to me this and tell me
if this is wrong. But there's like almost like a
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missing word, don't continue to be conformed to this world?
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Like the way Paul is phrasing and is implying that
they are conformed. Yea, they should be transformed. Yes, I
could see that.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
We we are always being conformed to something.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yeah, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Yeah. Well, there's there's a book called You Are What
You Love. I remember reading. It's a pretty recent book.
But is that our book today? Do you have one
that's coming later? Okay, that's coming later. But you you
are what you love? Meaning show show me what you're doing,
(09:18):
and I'll tell you what you love. Yeah, because your calendar. Yeah,
show me what you're watching, and I'll tell you what
you're interested in. Show me what podcast you're listening to,
and I'll tell you where your where your heart is,
show me your friends, and I'll show you a mirror
to yourself. So all of those things I said, or
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none of those things are bad. But but it's your choice. Now,
who who do you want to conform you? What do
you want to conform you? Paul saying, don't let it
be the world. That's what he's that's what he's saying.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
So to your original question, what does it look like
if you are conformed to this world? I guess what
would be some character sticks of the world? And then
what would be the characteristics of somebody who's set apart
from that.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah, So this world is, Paul says, transient, temporal, fleeting,
fading away. It's it's changing in the term, in the
in the way to think about social culture. Trends are
(10:31):
always changing, styles are always changing, and so to be
conformed to something that's always changing means you also are
You're you're just tossing in the wind. So if you
are watching the latest trends on Netflix constantly, you will
(10:54):
start to reflect the latest trends on Netflix. If you're
listening to pop forty, country, top forty, whatever it might be,
and that's that's what you listen to always, you will
start to speak that language. Will you will start to
look like that. And if you're a concert goer all
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the time, you could go to lots of concerts. I'm
saying things that are dear to me because because of
my living it so long. You go to concerts long enough,
you're gonna start looking like the band.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Just seeing people dress like you, dressed like the band,
does they come to the shows?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yeah, And it worked for me too. People would start
to dress like us if they came to enough concerts,
they would start to dress like us. But we were
already dressing like them. Oh funny, we were already dressing
like each other. It's always funny. When we would hire
a new crew guy or a band member, they would
always come in looking different because they came from whatever
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camp they come from. You know, they had their own style.
But of what that's long enough on a tour bus
and you start they start wearing the same, They start
getting tee shirts from Tyler, and they start, you know,
wearing boots that are soda.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
And then when they leave like Nards with practice and
Keith now and like he fits in with them.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
He goes starts to conform back to that. So my
point is conforming is not always bad, but you will
be conformed. No one is immune from being conformed. So you,
whatever you love, you will be conformed to Christ is
saying be conformed to me, be conformed in my image,
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which is.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
And possible. We strive for that. But my point is,
and it's kind of a question, is like all of
us born again believers fong the Lord. Everybody is conformed
to some degree to this world? Am I wrong?
Speaker 2 (12:58):
And right?
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Even the strongest believer, you know, it's conformed in some
way to the world, but because I live in it.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
God's will for your life is sanctification, right, the Bible says,
and so, And the Bible also says, for sean, one
day you'll be like him, so when.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
You see, we won't until we're with him.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
When you're glorified, you'll be like him. So, but that
there's a slope upward in your life to get to
that point.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
And the I'm closer to Christ today than I was
three years ago.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah, I see that in you, which is an argument
for the local church. The local church comes along side you,
lives with you. You start to doubt yourself, the local church,
your brothers and sisters said, no, I've seen you the
last three days more like Christ than you overwere three
years ago. Still impossibly far away, if that makes sense,
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which is a good mentality to think. You should we
should always think we have impossible amount to go. And
God says, yes, it is in possis, but nothing is
impossible with God. For you, it's impossible, but not for me.
But sanctification comes in in waves. Sometimes the Lord sanctifies steep.
Sometimes it's a it's a slow sandpaper, And sometimes you've
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got to shovel just digging into you. And that happens
through seasons of life. It happens in all different ways.
But we're talking a lot of this conversation here is
the is the sandpaper Because God takes a shovel to you,
an excavator to you through deep suffering.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Do you think that you got an excavator to you?
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (14:38):
In your personal situation, yeah, have you have? I have
I had an excavator?
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Have you felt the excavator? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
I'm just trying to think in all of our situations,
if it's more sandpaper with you with a deep loss,
sandpaper is always going and then quitting music that was
pretty extreme.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Sandpaper is always going, right, And I think everyone will
will meet the shovel one day for sure. So I'm
not saying that I'm any different than any other Christian.
Everyone's going to meet the excavator one day, but the
sandpapers always going. So take the word humble. We see
the word humble throughout the Bible, right, So we see
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in the Bible the Lord will humble you, The Lord
will humble you, and we know this, that is just
something that's going to happen, Like sanctification God will humble
you on this earth. But the Bible also says, humble yourselves.
Peter says, humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God,
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so that the proper time He may exalt you, cast
all your anxieties on him because he cares for you.
So there's this idea that God will humble you and
humble yourself.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
I wonder if you had to more than normal people
humble yourself. Like I'm thinking about your truck in that
instance in your new book. I'm wondering if the Lord
obviously humbles all of it, But I wonder if you
humbled yourself more because your platform was you were in
the spot, you're, you know, the singer that you know,
(16:17):
living doing a job that nobody else, the one percent,
gets to do. I mean, I'm the most humble. I
wonder if you took that. I wonder if you took
that and you're like, man, I gotta humble myself. I
can't have this sweet ninety thousand dollars truck. I need
to go get a twelve thousand dollars demax, Like to
humble yourself, yeah, the Lord, Yeah, because everybody's different, Like
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I don't feel the need in that regard to like
like Parker traded his truck into though and got dad's.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
You're right, though everyone left with us. Everybody's different.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
I did that because I didn't have any money.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I need to sell it. Yeah, but that's still that's
that's the way that God humbles you, you through no money,
and then you humble yourselves when you do have money
and you say, I don't need this. Could I buy it? Yeah?
I could buy it. Do I need it? No, I
don't need it, So I'm not going to. I still
think that word humbled is one of the most misused
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words in the English vernacular. When people stand at a
podium with an award and they go, oh, first place,
I am so humbled up here, Like wait, what no
humbled is when you no one even acknowledged you and
didn't even nominate you for the thing that you're going
to get.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah, to be humbled is to be brought low, to
recognize your dependence on something other than yourself.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
That's right. So so to this thing about conforming, so
Tyler there, we're always everyone's different at different levels of it.
But but at some at some point, we have to
take into account everything that's everything that's in our sphere
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around us, whether it's what we're listening to, what we're watching,
who we're hanging out with, where are we gathering, where,
where's our where are we gathering to worship on Sundays.
It's take into account every single thing in our lives
because it's all a liturgy. Well, the world is a liturgy.
(18:31):
So when we build our church service, for instance, the
liturgy is the order of the service and all the
things in it, and we order it in a specific way,
and the world orders it in a specific way. Back
to this book, I don't even mean to talk about this,
but I forgot the guy's name Smith something. His name
is last name Smith. You are what you love. But
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he talks about how a shopping mall when he wrote
it in the time, malls were huge. Malls are like
cathedrals with the peak ceiling, the high ceilings and the
you know, the way that you walk in through the
entrance and you and then it expand and it gets
big and there's music playing. You can hear the echo
and then you could see the lights and the colors
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and the you know, the food court, and the world
orients itself as as a liturgy. That's speaking into your life,
that's conforming you, that's softening certain parts of you and
hardening certain parts of you. This is the same thing
the Word of God does. And so Paul saying, your
choice conform the world transformed by the renewal of your mind.
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And back to the making the decision versus God saves.
These are two parallel lines that only intersect in heaven.
God's will for your life and man's responsibility to respond
to that will. Those two things. There's a tension that
it exists between those two things, and they that they
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both run parallel, and they're both in necessity seen most
prominently at the cross. There's two things that we must believe.
One Christ went to the cross to die for sinners,
and God predestined that before time as the plan to
redeem a people. God did it. Then on the other side,
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man and his sin murdered the Christ, rejected him, they
like they did the prophets, and hung him on that cross,
sending nails through his hands and feet, sending a spirit
through his side. They murdered him, the guilty murdered the
innocent man. Both of those truths coexist at the same time.
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So God says, my will for you is to be sanctified,
So be sanctified. My will for you to is you
to be humbled, humble yourselves.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
It literally says it in our text, be transformed. Yeah,
and so it's like be transformed, like take action and
then like to be transformed. It is like implying that
it's like being done to you right by the renewal
of your mind. It's kind of interesting. Yeah, how do
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you renew your mind? Yeah, that's interesting, Uh, renew, Like
it's too renew your mind. I'd have to think, like
what does that word renew mean? Is that like similar
to redeem, like to set it back to its original purpose?
Speaker 2 (21:39):
To make new again?
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Yeah, to make new again almost like our minds are
corrupted and sick, and they there's like a sense in
which they need to go back to their original purpose.
And so I think that the answer would have to
be through reading and thinking about God's word revealed in scripture.
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So I know there's a lot there's a verse coming
to mind.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
If you're gonna be well, all I'm gonna do is
just take us to the next verse in Romans twelve.
So the next verse. Listen now, because if the Bible
must always be read in context anyway, which is why
we would we would discourage taking verses and taking them
out of the context of the of the Bible itself
and putting it on a wooden sign and putting putting
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it in your kitchen. Nothing wrong with doing that, but
living your life for that verse out of the context
of the verses around it becomes dangerous. For an instance,
we could start to think that, how do you conform
your mind? What's all on you? Whence we read the canon,
we know that what's never on you. Are you responsible? Yes,
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but you do it by the power of the Holy Spirit.
Always there's always an indication. So Romans twelve three, as
he goes on for by the grace given to me,
I say to everyone among you think, do not think
of himself more highly than he ought to think, but
to think with sober judgment, each according to the measure
of faith that God has assigned. So you see the tension.
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It's throughout the entire Bible. But there it is again. Hey,
don't think of yourself more high than you should think
about yourself, but think with sober judgment according to the
faith that God gave you. To think with right.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, yeah, that's crazy. It reminds me of Philippians where
he says, so fear God, for it is he who
works in you both to will and work for his
good pleasure. Yeah. So it's like, do this because he's
the word working in you, both, working your desires and
your actions for his glory.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I'm so glad we started this whole conversation with the
Lord saving making a decision thing because those two things
must exist, you know, and that tension is it seems
to be what we're talking about today that the the
wrong teaching is to stick with only one of those
two things. The wrong teaching is do it. It's all
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up to you, So do it. Stop sinning, it's all
up to you. That's wrong teaching. The other wrong teaching.
God does it. God will fix you. Christ died for sins.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
You have no responsibility.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Christ out of the cross. It's grace man, you have forgiven.
All your sins are forgiven. So essentially, don't worry about it.
I mean, God's gonna fix you. God's going to patch
up all your Like churches use the term wounds and scars.
I don't like those terms because they hide the deeper
term of sin, but both of the things exist at
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the same time. Yes, do it stop sinning. Jesus says,
sin no more, Sin no more. And then the flip
side is it's always by grace that you're inn to
stop sinning Romans eight thirteen. So that that tension is
important and for the for the For this particular podcast,
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we're talking about the responsibility of man two don't be
conformed to the world. So it goes back to practical measures.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, it's interesting to think about. Sorry you finishing thought,
but uh, it reminded me of h first John two.
Or it kind of explains what this world is. For
all that is in the world, the desires of the
flesh and the desires of the eyes, and the pride
of life is not from the Father, but is from
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this world. So if you kind of break down those
three things so that we could think about what is
the world? What is the thing that we're supposed to avoid.
You think about desires of the flesh, the desires of
the eyes, and the pride of life, do you think like, okay,
the desires of the flesh would be like those innate
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desires of passion within us that are sinful, whether that
be like lust or adultery or greed. You have the
desires of the eyes and like craving like what you see,
of like coveting or envying what another man has. And
then the pride of life is like that pride that's
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within us, of like the hardening of heart, of like
desiring to be feared by men, that status, that desire
for notoriety. That's like all everything that the world teaches
you that you should seek after, is like do whatever
makes you happy. Your purpose of your life is to
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have as many pleasurable experiences as possible, regardless of what happens.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Just follow your.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Heart, destroy your competition, be the best. Girls want you
and guys want to be you. That's your goal in life.
And then be grow a company or a career so
big that that people wish they could be you. And
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so you have as much influence as possible, and it
all revolves around you. You're the main character at your story.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
And what I used to pray and still do occasionally,
but I used to pray every day for EE Apparel.
The same prayer that I actually prayed for this very
podcast this morning, was Lord, would you grow this company
if it's for your glory, And if it's not, will
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you destroy it? What brings you glory? Lord? Does this
podcast bring you glory? Then? Lord, will you magnify that
you didn't.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Come talk to me about that? My pride in my
ego to be a part of that too. You know, Lord,
if ye and a hail ship ain't going down, because
I got everything to do with it.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
When when it was, everything was changing for us and
our company and with the Brothers. I remember one time
we played a show on the last on the Farewell tour.
It was absolutely pouring down rain. I don't remember where
it was. I feel like it was in Pennsylvania. It
was pouring down rain and the the the it was
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already a sold out outdoor festival, so the people were
pouring out to go to their cars. But there was
also a group of people that were excited because now
they got to go to the concert because they were
left out of the gate. So there it was simultaneously
people were pouring out and another group was pouring in,
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and Dusty and I were looking out of the window
this whole thing and filming. It was hilarious looking. But
there was a time when our company was like that,
when my social media was like that, like, it's still
my social media I think is the same number since
when I left touring, because so many people have left
me and a new group has come in. And so
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I would pray, Lord, if ye apparel is something that
reflects your glory or our shows Christ to the world, Lord,
will you will you exalt that company and and and
grow it? But if it's not, destroy it, kill it, Lord,
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wipe it off the face of the earth. And I said,
I said the same prayer for this very podcast this
morning nine nine for one podcast. It's it's still new.
What episode is this ten? Yeah? Or episode ten? God,
if this is if this is something, if this is
if this would be a platform that shows people Jesus
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and magnifies his glo or will you grow it while
keeping us humble with it? But if it's not, will
it just go away forever? You just bury it? And
after you say a prayer like that, you go back
to work. You go back and work your butt all right,
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with a ton of peace. But with a ton of peace.
Yeah that's good.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's uh. As long as you can
pray that earnestly. I think it's not that I have
it all together by any means or that we do.
But if you can pray that, if you're listening, and
you can pray that earnestly about really anything that's temporal
in this world, if you can hold it. Remember Chad
Warren one time he was like, it's the difference between
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holding something with a closed fist and an open hand
that God's given you. And so he like, put a
knife in my hand. We're eating lunch, and he gave
me like a butter knife or whatever. He said, hold
out your fist facing down and clenched. That would be
something that got the Lord's given you, that you're you've
clung onto too tightly. And then he said, not open
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up your hand. Each each circumstance, you are holding the
thing that the Lord's given you, but in two completely
different postures, and so slowly over time, like anything the
Lord's given me. Sometimes I can just feel my hand
just slowly start to grab it and turn, and I
just feel my heart getting tethered to it, and I
just have to pray, Oh God, keep my hand open,
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so I could be content without this thing. I don't
need this thing. Just to pray that over my family
and my career, my bank account.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
If you ever want to fill that with ye life,
just let me know me and Grange will.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Take over for you. It's a pretty successful channel when
when someone says something like that. You know what American
Christianity says a lot of times in response to what
you just said, They go, amen, brother God and family
over everything. But you see what they did. You see
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what that? You see the distinction? Amen, brother boy, I
just keep the only things in my fist that's closed
is my family and my God. But you just made
your family an idol. But what you said, you didn't
say that. You said everything, including your family, must be
held with an open hand. And I say that as
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a father who's lost a son. You know that's held
a dead son. Hey, you have to hold everything with
an open hand. The Lord gives, the Lord takes away.
If you don't do that, your own idol will eat
you alive and it will crush you. I was looking
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on in this passage because if you haven't read Romans,
if you're listening right now and you haven't read romans,
that are really any of the Bible, but specifically today
we're looking at Romans. That man, it's just it never ends.
It never ceases to be. The next paragraph is something
you'll want to know, Parker. You were saved. The Lord
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saved you by Romans. You like? You? Like how I
said that Lord saved you by reading Romans? Right? What chapter?
Do you remember? What chapter? What part? Uh?
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Yeah, you told me. You told me in twenty twenty
one to read to read Romans. I said, I'm a Christian,
but we should do a video on it each of
our testimonies at some point. But I said I'm a Christian.
I just I don't. I don't desire to read the Bible.
I can't read half the page without falling asleep. It's like,
I'm a Christian, but I'd rather go get bottle service
on the weekend and go to church, but like find
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God in my own place. And then actually I started
like pushing a little bit more towards Jordan Peterson's theology
of well, maybe Jesus was just the highest construct of
good and that we should all just desire to be
like that and he just rappers anyway. But that's a
long that's a long road. But Peterson would take the
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Bible was a true myth, at least back in twenty
nineteen when I used to listen to him very regularly.
I know his wife converted to Catholicism, But yeah, I
started to think that the Bible was like a true myth,
meaning that it taught true things, but it wasn't. It
didn't actually happen. And now I just see how stupid
that is because of how historically reliable the scriptures are
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and now they've just proven themselves over and over again.
But yeah, so Granger told me to read the Book
of Romans. I read Romans one and it said they
exchanged the truth about God for a lie, worshiping and
serving created things rather than the Creator. And for the
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first time of my life, I was like this is interesting,
Like I'm not like really bored all of a sudden.
And then I read the little footnote and said they
knew God, but they didn't want God, and I was
like in that moment, I was like wait a second,
Like you can believe in God and still be going
to hell, like acknowledging God's existence doesn't save you. And
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I was like, man, I should keep reading this. And
then I just like read about all these sins and
Romans and I was like, you check, check, that's all
me Yeah, that's all me. Wow, I think I really
overlooked something in this. Uh so, yeah, Romans. Romans is
crazy when.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
You're reading like you're talking about and you get to
you know, one, two, three, chapter four, and you get
to chapter five and you see what we're saved from,
which is often that you know, people think about saved
from ourselves or saved from the devil, and it's actually
not what what Romans five ten says. We were enemies.
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It says, so if while we were enemies with God,
we're reckon where if we enemies, we were reconciled to
God by the death of the Son, much more than
now that we are reconciled, shall we be saved by
his life? It says been in Romans five to one. Therefore,
since we have been justified by faith, we have peace
with God. We have peace with God. Which is crazy
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to think that all this time, as an unbeliever, you're
out of peace with God and you're an enemy.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
With him, which is why the primary message of evangelism
can't be only that Jesus loves you.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
We can't listen Romans not enemy of God. Since therefore
we've been now justified by His blood talking about Christ.
Much more, shall we be saved by him from the
wrath of God. He stepped in and took our place
as an enemy. He became an enemy in that sense.
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He became a sinner in that sense, he became unrighteous
in that sense. He became the acute, the accused, and
took on the punishment another word for punishment in the
Bible that we see a lot as chastisement. He was chastised,
he was punished, it's a legal term. And he was punished, abused,
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treated as guilty, treated as an enemy, and the wrath
of God poured on to him. I mean the wrath
of God poured onto him so that he could stand
in our place and take it so that we could
walk free. Nothing else could set us free, but the
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perfect son of God. The longer you meditate on that,
then you see the love of Jesus. That's where the
love of Jesus comes from, not because he's sweet and
accepting of anything you do. It's because he stepped in
your place and took all those little sweet things that
you did that were sin on his own body. Because
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he loves you. That's where the love comes in, right,
That's the gospel. So do you guys have anything in
your life recently that you feels like you're pulling away
from the conforming of the world and you're cutting it
off and moving towards the trans transforming of your mind.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
People are gonna think, We're like, that's so extreme. I
feel exactly what I want them to think.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
I do. I want people to go, what is wrong
with these guys?
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Like no one's in my head, Like, no one's gonna
listen to this podcast Grangers talking about stopping listening to
country music out here he's telling me to not go
to country concerts. Like even what I was about to
say about like yeah, I just feel like, yeah, what
do you say? Well, I was the first thing that
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comes to mind is I've like literally actively been praying
God make me care less about college football this season.
She just sounds like Jays laughing, Like it sounds so ridiculous.
It's like it's just football, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (39:18):
And like it's a liturgy of the world.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
There's been several times recently where I felt something start
to like uh, I Like, for instance, I was playing
Battlefield six. There's nothing wrong with playing video games, right
If video games are not inherently sinful, depending on like
the type of game that you're playing. So I was
playing Battlefield six like pretty much every day in the
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office on my lunch break, and I just felt it
get to a point where I was like, oh, it
was like it just like what we were talking about earlier.
I could just felt feel like it was just like
kind of hearty in my heart, and like, do I
feel like caring for church members?
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Literally?
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Well, right after I play this, or am I just
kind of pissed off because like I just died a
bunch of times, and like I just remember specifically praying
in the last few weeks. God helped me to like
not care about video games as much as I used to,
and like boom, like that very next week, it was
just like yeah, no, I feel like you just like
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immediately answered that prayer. So that's an example of something
that and then like that's I just feel like I
have these idols and then like it's like, all right,
what's next on the list? What's something that I could
ask right that he at your right hand is fullness
of joy? What am I finding joy in more than you?
That's just actually kind of distracting and like not pulling
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me closer to you. So for me that was like
video games and then like potentially college football as that's
this season comes up, like help me enjoy it, like
a good godly person can just enjoy college football and
not be sinful. But if I can't, then just take
it away from me and help me not care. And
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he's like been faithful to answer that prayer with lots
of things.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
I love that man, and I want people to listen
to this and go, these guys are going too far.
You remember when we had Easy on Aunt and he
Easy from Living Waters had such a great illustration and
he said, the society's like this. If you if you're
a smoker your whole life, and you could get that,
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you can get the picture of your lung, what looked,
what it looks like. You know what a smoker's lung
looks like. And you decide to quit smoking, and you
do it, whatever system you do, maybe it's cold Turkey.
And then you go thirty days and you go to
people and you say, man, I quit smoking. It's been
thirty days. I feel good, I feel healthier. And people
(41:54):
hear that and they go, dude, congratulations, I'm so happy
for you. But if you go, guys, I quit college football.
He was becoming an idol in my life was taken over.
I didn't feel like I could serve my church after
being absorbed in the you know, the anxiety of it.
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So I quit spend thirty days. People would go, you
have lost your mind because we've prioritized these sins depending
on how they affect us on the outside. Smoking obviously
affects your body on the outside, and and and any
other idol affects you from the inside. So you know,
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playing a video game might be crushing you on the inside,
but you're not a smoker. So the world applauds you, like,
good job on eating less carbs and not smoking. And
then you go back and you're playing video games and
it's it's destroying you. That's why the world goes this
podcast is ridiculous, you know.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Yeah, it just reminds me of like Paul saying, like
all those things can be lawful, but not all of
them are helpful, and so it's like not so much
like is this particular thing sinful could be, but is
it helpful? And so like choose what's more, Just choose
what's more helpful, And then just like ask God to
just continue to change, like literally renew your mind. What
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am I thinking about? What brings me like pleasure? Like
renew my mind to the things that are just more helpful,
so that I would desire to do that, so that
I could be that vessel for honorable use like he
talks about in second Timothy, so that I could just
be more useful of my time here on earth.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
You guys got something something Lord's working on you with.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
Yeah, I stopped reading the Bible. That's a good thing
to get all the way all the way through in
one year. I want to hear you finish. I didn't
purpose for dramatic effect stop reading it all the way
through in one year. I've done it twice now, which
is great. But I was reading it to get to
the end result starting on this date, ending on this date.
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Cool accomplished. And so now I'm going through like I
even did it. Today we were talking about another verse,
and so I'll go in and I'll start doing research
on the setting. Now you know, we don't pull screen
like particular passages out of context. I've now tried to
do that with a whole chapter. Let's let's set the
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whole chapter in context, what happened before, what happens after?
Where were they and who they were, who were they
talking to? What was what was going on in their
life and their situation that he you know that that
poll's writing into. And so that's kind of how I've
been reading now, So I only read I read much
fewer chapters every day. I now read two instead of four,
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So read two. But it's actually ends up being longer
in time because there's like there's a whole reading before
I get into the chapter, and then off times I'll
go back into a specific First, there was one today
in so that I was reading. I was like, I
don't know what that means, So let's go look up
what would this whole line mean? What does this whole
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verse mean? And then it's this dissertation basically you know,
it's like two paragraphs of what was going on here?
Speaker 2 (45:17):
And so you're telling me your sanctification is so far
advanced that what you're what you're dealing with right now
is the amount of Bible you're reading. I want to
be man, No, that's that's definitely, But I got to
I got to like, man, I'm like, I'm giving up
video games. What are you giving up I'm I'm giving
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up the old system of reading the Bible.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
Well, no, but I was going to say what I
love about what you said, Parker.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
Is I think that that is the living, tangible example
of what we read at the beginning of renewing your mind.
That's a constant renewing of your mind. Renewing your mind
doesn't happen one time. It's not a magic spell. It's
not something you repeat one time and oh cool, mine's dude,
move on about your life.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
It's that it's a constant renewal of your mind.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
What is taking the place of the Lord and his
purpose in my life right now?
Speaker 2 (46:11):
Is it the love of college football? Cool?
Speaker 1 (46:13):
Let's address that? Is it the love of this video game?
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Cool?
Speaker 1 (46:16):
Let's address that? Is it what I'm eating? Cool? Let's
address that. Is it smoking? Is it dipping? Is it drinking?
What is it?
Speaker 3 (46:24):
Let's find those and I think that is that's I
think it's a tangible walking out. Hey, look at this
as an example of when somebody asked, what is renewing
your mind?
Speaker 1 (46:34):
This?
Speaker 3 (46:36):
But this on the long term, this this year, this month,
this this week.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
And to speak to what you're talking about your sanctification
with your Bible. Reading your disciplines could become an idol
to you, sure, because you rely on your disciplines and
not on the goal of the discipline itself.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
My discipline was a McShane plan. Cool, did it all
the way through?
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (46:56):
But what did I get out of it? Well, I've
read the Bible all the way through? Do you know anything?
What it's Do you remember? Like when I I thought
of that the second time I read it, I was like,
I don't remember reading this. I clearly read it because
I did it all the way through last time. And
then when I read it the second time, I'm look,
I don't remember this, And now that I'm digging deeper,
I'm like, I don't remember this.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
About you?
Speaker 4 (47:18):
Yeah, I did the same thing Mickshange planned, and I
felt the same way.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
And it's great you.
Speaker 4 (47:24):
Yeah, I think it's great.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
If you've never read all this.
Speaker 4 (47:27):
It's ad because with me, I was like almost dreading
it because I was like, man, I just can't wait
to be done because this is so long, so much.
Wait a minute, this isn't how I need to be
reading it. So after that I went straight to like
just reading one of the Gospels, like one verse at
a time and like rereading it, cooking stuff.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
That's where I started the gospel. Right now, I'm doing.
Speaker 4 (47:48):
Proverbs with some buddies and I love it, man, just
like it's and I'm reading Psalms on my morning time, yeah,
paired with like you know, right now it's First Corinthians
and I just did Romans. But it's song fifty six
was my thing this morning. It's like short, sweet adjustable.
I was like, man, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
So last week you and I were talking about war
and Iran and you were like war, you know, But
over this last week that's actually become a really big discussion.
Is it war or is it not war? Should we
call it a war? You know, Vietnam War, the Golf War,
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the war on drugs? Like when do we use that word? Anyway,
that's a side note, but I thought it was funny
that the little discussion you and I had was actually
a huge discussion because Trump's saying war, and a lot
of other people were saying, this is not a war,
it's a conflict.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
A conflict, yes, because war is declared by it.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
So what should we talk about next week? Comment below
on this video. What we should talk about next week, Parker,
would you pull up?
Speaker 1 (48:56):
I was just looking up what an actually taler said
reminded me of a quote. I can find the exact quote.
I think it was one of the Puritans that said,
somebody says that they understand a portion of Scripture, but
it's not driving them to love God or love others more,
and that they have not understood it. And so it's
the temptation to like say, I want to read these
four chapters of scripture of scripture this morning, boom did it.
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But if it hasn't driven you to like think about
your relationship with God and who he is and his
characteristics until driven you to literally love him more and
then to turn and love others more, probably haven't gotten
out of it what God intended for you two. So
like I'd rather read one verse a day if it
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actually is impacting my heart.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
Yeah, verse for the people.
Speaker 4 (49:44):
So I'm fifty six y three, I read this morning
when I'm afraid I would trust in you.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
Love that verse. So I think this we could do
another episode at some point about the sanctification or about
the physic you know, like more of I'm checking the
Netflix ratings now before I watch it. I think we
could have more specific discussion, but this one is just
kind of opening up the idea that the Christian walk is,
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it is a daily dying to self. And if if
there's comments about this, I would love to see comments
on this. I think instead of a book giveaway, I
would like to keep for people to read Romans in
its entirety. If you're gonna, if you if you're gonna
engage with us and be willing to read a book,
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read the Book of Romans and and watch the arc
of the the argument that Paul makes in these in
in this book. And so that being said, comment below,
how should I say this? I loved last week. I
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love going to the video last week and seeing we
need biblical men and iron. Yeah that was so cool. Yeah,
you know, if you haven't heard the podcast, and that's all,
especially if you forget all these people are saying that,
so we need, we need, we need to read. We
should all read the Book of Romans again, something like that,
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a comment like that, we should all read the Book
of Romans again. You do that and we will sign
a Bible, and I'll send a Bible to you. We
will mail it out to you. We need to read
the Book of Romans again. What did I say we
should read the Book of Romans. We should all read
the Book of Romans again. Comment below on our YouTube
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page ninety nine for one the podcast and comment, we
should all read the Book of Romans again and we
and we will sign it and pick a what kids
can pick a winter and we'll ship it out to you. Yeah.
Do we have any comments from last week? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (51:58):
Yeah, I wish I could live under the same way
as Tyler.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
And seriously, also comment below whether wherever you're listening, comment
some topic ideas sure that you would want us to
to unpack as the Crazy Christian Podcast.
Speaker 3 (52:14):
Shout out to Jill in Virginia, great informative episode. I
learned a lot. Thank you, Jill, appreciate you. Laurie, great podcast.
Ye Ye from Ontario, Canada, Jason said, I was looking
for a movie to watch on Pure Flicks and came across.
Speaker 1 (52:27):
Your movie Moonrise.
Speaker 3 (52:29):
Watched that it was really cool and then discovered a
whole there's it's a it's like three paragraphs, but it was.
It was a great comment on there, Rachel said, thank
you for being at a group of biblically sound men
for my husband and so many others around the world
to listen to. Yeah, if you've got somebody you think
this podcast would be greatful, be awesome if you shared
it with.
Speaker 2 (52:46):
Them, it'd be crazy to do. Yeah. Yeah, we clearly
we don't want everyone to have a gospel conversation go
by without the gospel. And but we clearly did that
in this episode. We say by grace through faith, and
this is not our own doing. It is the gift
of God, not a result of work, so that no
man may boast in Christ debt on the cross. And
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if you read the Book of Romans, like my assignment
would be to you, the gospels all over it. That's
all we got. If you.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
Are watching on YouTube, you'll knows. Tyler shirt actually is
a shirt that just released in our spring launch with EEE.
So we just did our EEE Apparel spring launch and
the one Tyler has on right now, it's got four
symbols on it. And so our desire was to create
something that would be able to subtlely share the gospel
or to provoke conversations. So it has a crown, a
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man across in like an arrow representing God man Christ's
response and So that's a really good way to be
able to share the gospel. And then our hope is
that those shirts will sell thousands and that they will
provoke Gospel Center conversations with people as they wonder what
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those symbols are. And it's just a good way to
remember it because sharing the gospel can be intimidating. We
have a ton of people that ask about this hat too. Yeah, no,
those is in it right?
Speaker 2 (54:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:08):
So the hat I'm wearing this is Jesus Lord Tyler designed.
It's really cool camo, and the one ant Man's holding
is our nine nine one hat, which is actually much
more on brand for the podcast, Thank you, ant Man,
Tyler created this real tree hat that says nine to
nine four one on it's that's really cool. So that
just released too. Hopefully it's still in stock when you're
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watching this.
Speaker 2 (54:31):
Yeah, that's going to go out of stock quick. Huh.
That's such a cool hat you can put your mind.
People either ask about that hat or why I don't
do the Smiths anymore? Those are like the two main comments.
Speaker 1 (54:42):
Why don't you do the smith anymore?
Speaker 2 (54:44):
There's no real reason besides just been busy writing and
you didn't get burned down time with my family.
Speaker 4 (54:49):
And I mean maybe a little bit also because the
views dropped, didn't they.
Speaker 2 (54:54):
It's always it's always motivating to see a lot of views.
But it was about the same at the end. It
just yeah, I guess it was more so that you
didn't see the growth. It just was years and years.
But it's the channel's not done. We're just it's hard
to be motivated.
Speaker 4 (55:08):
Yeah, I was thinking about your kids are older now.
Speaker 2 (55:10):
It's like I don't want to.
Speaker 4 (55:12):
I might be embarrassed if I was fourteen my dad,
come on, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (55:16):
So maybe that's a reason. No, that those are all
the reasons. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, but it's not dead.
It's just I've been busy and part of the business
is hanging out with my family and joining them. That's
part of the business. Even I don't like that. We
all know. I don't like that word. I prefer to
say fool. It's been full. So is that is that
we got recover everything? Yeah, Kaden, just making sure we
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don't have the good conversation. We stop recording this time.
We have a habit of stopping recording and then having
the deep conversation. So let's pretend like we're finishing and
Tyler's about to say some really profound thing, and I was.
Speaker 4 (55:50):
Just gonna say my thing conforming to this world I
think as girls. I was just trying to work through
it in my head, though I didn't I didn't know
if it was, you know, applicable to this conversation. But again,
I just like, you think that you're getting far and
like your sanctification or like oh I'm over that sin
or I'm over that that lustful thought or something. Then
(56:12):
literally yesterday I found myself about to text this girl
and I was like, what are you doing? You know
she's not a believer. Why are you Why are you
doing this?
Speaker 2 (56:21):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (56:22):
Yeah, so I just deleted her number, like I have
no delete, like flee from you know, flee run from
sexual immorality. It's like, Lord, please continue to like that's
the flesh in me and like the sin and me
coming up. And it's only because of the Lord that
I'm able to that he allows me to delete. That
is such a great example and such a great story
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of God did it, and you crushed it. You crushed
it because God did it. Say whatever word you want,
God's sovereignty over your life, Tyler, your mind, I've redeemed
you now sin no more and through the power of
the Holy Spirit, you kill it. Yeah, and that's dude,
that's so freeing and so like, you know, like if
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he does have somebody for me, it's like it's all
his doing, Like I'll be open, like Parker is saying,
I'm open, like if I'm cool and content or whatever.
But it's like when you you know, because in the
past it was it was me, like I'm doing this,
like you're hot, I'm gonna date you. And yeah, it's
just such a freeing Like that poor girl she was
(57:27):
about to get a text from Kyler Smith and now
she's not even in the moon anymore. Seductress and temptress.
And you've been a proverb in the middle of PB
literally proverb six.
Speaker 1 (57:40):
The Bible is just literally an instruction manual and so
many different things in life, like proverbs just.
Speaker 4 (57:45):
The key to on lock all of all of your
questions for life. Proverbs is so awesome.
Speaker 3 (57:50):
It's a way different girl conversation than the one Grain
journ I had before this one about raising girls for.
Speaker 2 (57:58):
The conversation yeah, mhm, yeah, yeah, that's what about to
talk about when the camera turns off. I love you, guys,
See you next episode.
Hey, I'm Granger, I am the Aman, I'm Tyler, I'm Parker.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
This is the ninety nine for one podcast. Thank you
all for being here. We get together on Tuesdays or
record these things, and we don't always know what we're
going to talk about before we get into it. Last
week we're talking about war. I'm laughing because we said
that discussion. I saw last week's video that we recorded
and talked about war, and you're like, so we're in
(00:25):
World War three? In my face, I looked at Jego. Oh,
I'm like, man, we're such brothers. We are. We have
three brothers by the way, and then ant Man's brothers, and.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
But you are starting to look at me like that.
I want to say things so I should feel accepted.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Right. Do you have the comment somebody said about Tyler
last week? They said, I want it, that's great. Where
was it said? I want to live I want to
live under the rock that Tyler lives under. Being so
far removed to not hear about war. That sounds so peaceful.
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Where's this rock located?
Speaker 4 (01:08):
It kind of goes into what I guess we're talking
about today, which is what you fill your mind with, what.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
You consume right, It's exactly right. I just I consume
if we could all live under the rock Tyler's living,
the peaceful rock that Tyler's living under, we could we
would do better to deal with passages like Romans twelve
to two. This is so important and I think we should.
This is a good idea to dive into this today,
because I think it's not often talked about in the
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modern Christian life, and we've I'm not I'm not talking
about the specific verse. I'm talking about the implications of it.
The verse Romans twelfth two says, do not be conformed
to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of
your mind. And it goes on to say that by
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testing you made discern what is the world of God,
what is good and acceptable and perfect. And Paul starts
that chapter by saying, I appeal to you, therefore, brothers,
by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as
a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is
your spiritual worship. What does holy mean? We should think
(02:19):
about that for a second, because that's a word that's
been lost and in modern culture.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Yeah, it's a word that came up when we started
talking about cussing, because it's been it's been hijacked for sure.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah, it's been hijacked. That and the word saint kind
of which, interestingly enough, in the Latin those are those
are those are similar words santos sanctos, you know, thinking
thinking about Spanish holy sanctified is in that same category.
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But these we are to be set apart because God
is set apart. So God is set apart from us,
and we should be set apart from the world when
we are, when we when we receive the gift of
the Holy Spirit, when we are reborn, when we are
(03:12):
born again, when we become Christians. It's like the guy
Mikey from Louisiana that always hangs out with this last week.
He never says Christian. He says when I became a
born again Christian, When I became a born again Christian.
He never says, since it's been as Christian or just
Christian's when I became a born again Christian.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
I was listening to Travis the other day and he said,
that's why he says he doesn't say when did you
become a Christian? Just because of in our cultural context
that that that word has lost its weight entirely. If
you if you ask someone in Nigeria right now, or
like in another country where that's persecuted, that would be
a big deal. When did you become a Christian?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Brother? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:58):
But here it means nothing. And so that's Travis that
he ask people when did you decide to start following
the Lord? And it's like, ah, that is is has
a little more weight because it implies, it implies something active.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
And I would one up. I would one up that
by saying the deeper. The deeper idea is when did
the Lord save you? Because deciding to follow the Lord,
which is totally accurate, is something that people can manipulate
in their own mind. I decided when I was seven,
(04:34):
or I decided when I was four years old, And
because then I would say, what else did you decide
as a four year old?
Speaker 1 (04:42):
If I was going to be a firefighter? You know
that was going to be a cop, and it.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Was like the app between apple juice and peanut butter
or you know. So anyway that the idea of when
did the Lord save you? It goes it cuts a
little deeper.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Well, that's going to be really controversial though, because then
you're implying that there's no personal responsibility in salvation. You
don't take it. No one makes a choice.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
There's absolute responsibility. Of course, we we believe that there's responsibility.
This is good, this this podcast already going. We have
decided earlier we're just going to record you know this,
like we should just do it because we do this
all the time, Kate.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
And if you can get two or three out of this,
one would be good.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Okay. We always we have we maintain the responsibility to
respond to the Lord. And that's why we pray that
someone that if you have an unbelieving friend, you pray
for them that the Lord saves them. Oh God, please
save Mike. You know he's lost, he's he's an atheist,
(05:43):
and what Lord would you save Mike? And so that's
so then it's Mike's responsibility to respond to that to
the call. But but that's why I say, if we
start the question with when did the Lord save you,
it's a direct it's coming directly from the idea that
we pray for people to be saved, that the Lord
would do it.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Because Jesus's own words said, no one can come to
me unless the Father draws them. So we pray that
the Father would draw them to Jesus.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Lord, please draw Mike to yourself. Open his eyes like
the blind man that said, I don't know who he is.
All I know is I was blind and now I
see And he did it. He's the one that did it.
So anyway, to the topic of Christian living and to
the topic of what do we do? What do we
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do when we are when the Lord has opened our eyes?
When we did, when we did decide to follow Jesus,
when we when we were blind, and now we see?
What do we do now? We look at John fourteen? Right?
What what are his commandments? Yeah? What does he want?
Who is he? Who is this God? Yeah? That's right. Yeah,
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if anyone would come after me, let him deny himself.
Or if anyone loves me, he'll keep my word. Or
right here in Romans twelve, do not be conformed to
this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind.
So what does it mean to be conformed to the world?
(07:15):
And how do we not? How do we not do that?
It's it's it's easier now, I think to say that
than it was in the Middle Ages or in the
Dark Ages, when there there wasn't a lot of conforming
going on to the to the farmer in the in
in France, in the Middle Ages. You know, he just
(07:36):
wakes up every day, he's got his plow and he
goes back out there. The world is was not that
close to him as it is to us.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
If you're not I'm struggling a little bit with this.
If how to how to say this? But if if
you're not already conformed to the world, there's no need
to be transformed. So it kind of tells me that
you are conformed. But no, law, don't continue to go
down the path of being conformed.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Say that one more time for my brain.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
There would be no need to be transformed. If you
weren't already conformed. Yeah, I'm gonna say these so many
times they're gonna lose their meeting. Yeah, yeah, you ever
do that? You say words so many times, you're like,
I forgot what I was saying. Now, So if it
which I think this to me this and tell me
if this is wrong. But there's like almost like a
(08:34):
missing word, don't continue to be conformed to this world?
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Like the way Paul is phrasing and is implying that
they are conformed. Yea, they should be transformed. Yes, I
could see that.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
We we are always being conformed to something.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yeah, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Yeah. Well, there's there's a book called You Are What
You Love. I remember reading. It's a pretty recent book.
But is that our book today? Do you have one
that's coming later? Okay, that's coming later. But you you
are what you love? Meaning show show me what you're doing,
(09:18):
and I'll tell you what you love. Yeah, because your calendar. Yeah,
show me what you're watching, and I'll tell you what
you're interested in. Show me what podcast you're listening to,
and I'll tell you where your where your heart is,
show me your friends, and I'll show you a mirror
to yourself. So all of those things I said, or
(09:39):
none of those things are bad. But but it's your choice. Now,
who who do you want to conform you? What do
you want to conform you? Paul saying, don't let it
be the world. That's what he's that's what he's saying.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
So to your original question, what does it look like
if you are conformed to this world? I guess what
would be some character sticks of the world? And then
what would be the characteristics of somebody who's set apart
from that.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah, So this world is, Paul says, transient, temporal, fleeting,
fading away. It's it's changing in the term, in the
in the way to think about social culture. Trends are
(10:31):
always changing, styles are always changing, and so to be
conformed to something that's always changing means you also are
You're you're just tossing in the wind. So if you
are watching the latest trends on Netflix constantly, you will
(10:54):
start to reflect the latest trends on Netflix. If you're
listening to pop forty, country, top forty, whatever it might be,
and that's that's what you listen to always, you will
start to speak that language. Will you will start to
look like that. And if you're a concert goer all
(11:14):
the time, you could go to lots of concerts. I'm
saying things that are dear to me because because of
my living it so long. You go to concerts long enough,
you're gonna start looking like the band.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Just seeing people dress like you, dressed like the band,
does they come to the shows?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yeah, And it worked for me too. People would start
to dress like us if they came to enough concerts,
they would start to dress like us. But we were
already dressing like them. Oh funny, we were already dressing
like each other. It's always funny. When we would hire
a new crew guy or a band member, they would
always come in looking different because they came from whatever
(11:55):
camp they come from. You know, they had their own style.
But of what that's long enough on a tour bus
and you start they start wearing the same, They start
getting tee shirts from Tyler, and they start, you know,
wearing boots that are soda.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
And then when they leave like Nards with practice and
Keith now and like he fits in with them.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
He goes starts to conform back to that. So my
point is conforming is not always bad, but you will
be conformed. No one is immune from being conformed. So you,
whatever you love, you will be conformed to Christ is
saying be conformed to me, be conformed in my image,
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which is.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
And possible. We strive for that. But my point is,
and it's kind of a question, is like all of
us born again believers fong the Lord. Everybody is conformed
to some degree to this world? Am I wrong?
Speaker 2 (12:58):
And right?
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Even the strongest believer, you know, it's conformed in some
way to the world, but because I live in it.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
God's will for your life is sanctification, right, the Bible says,
and so, And the Bible also says, for sean, one
day you'll be like him, so when.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
You see, we won't until we're with him.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
When you're glorified, you'll be like him. So, but that
there's a slope upward in your life to get to
that point.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
And the I'm closer to Christ today than I was
three years ago.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah, I see that in you, which is an argument
for the local church. The local church comes along side you,
lives with you. You start to doubt yourself, the local church,
your brothers and sisters said, no, I've seen you the
last three days more like Christ than you overwere three
years ago. Still impossibly far away, if that makes sense,
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which is a good mentality to think. You should we
should always think we have impossible amount to go. And
God says, yes, it is in possis, but nothing is
impossible with God. For you, it's impossible, but not for me.
But sanctification comes in in waves. Sometimes the Lord sanctifies steep.
Sometimes it's a it's a slow sandpaper, And sometimes you've
(14:14):
got to shovel just digging into you. And that happens
through seasons of life. It happens in all different ways.
But we're talking a lot of this conversation here is
the is the sandpaper Because God takes a shovel to you,
an excavator to you through deep suffering.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Do you think that you got an excavator to you?
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (14:38):
In your personal situation, yeah, have you have? I have
I had an excavator?
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Have you felt the excavator? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
I'm just trying to think in all of our situations,
if it's more sandpaper with you with a deep loss,
sandpaper is always going and then quitting music that was
pretty extreme.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Sandpaper is always going, right, And I think everyone will
will meet the shovel one day for sure. So I'm
not saying that I'm any different than any other Christian.
Everyone's going to meet the excavator one day, but the
sandpapers always going. So take the word humble. We see
the word humble throughout the Bible, right, So we see
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in the Bible the Lord will humble you, The Lord
will humble you, and we know this, that is just
something that's going to happen, Like sanctification God will humble
you on this earth. But the Bible also says, humble yourselves.
Peter says, humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God,
(15:43):
so that the proper time He may exalt you, cast
all your anxieties on him because he cares for you.
So there's this idea that God will humble you and
humble yourself.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
I wonder if you had to more than normal people
humble yourself. Like I'm thinking about your truck in that
instance in your new book. I'm wondering if the Lord
obviously humbles all of it, But I wonder if you
humbled yourself more because your platform was you were in
the spot, you're, you know, the singer that you know,
(16:17):
living doing a job that nobody else, the one percent,
gets to do. I mean, I'm the most humble. I
wonder if you took that. I wonder if you took
that and you're like, man, I gotta humble myself. I
can't have this sweet ninety thousand dollars truck. I need
to go get a twelve thousand dollars demax, Like to
humble yourself, yeah, the Lord, Yeah, because everybody's different, Like
(16:38):
I don't feel the need in that regard to like
like Parker traded his truck into though and got dad's.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
You're right, though everyone left with us. Everybody's different.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
I did that because I didn't have any money.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I need to sell it. Yeah, but that's still that's
that's the way that God humbles you, you through no money,
and then you humble yourselves when you do have money
and you say, I don't need this. Could I buy it? Yeah?
I could buy it. Do I need it? No, I
don't need it, So I'm not going to. I still
think that word humbled is one of the most misused
(17:16):
words in the English vernacular. When people stand at a
podium with an award and they go, oh, first place,
I am so humbled up here, Like wait, what no
humbled is when you no one even acknowledged you and
didn't even nominate you for the thing that you're going
to get.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah, to be humbled is to be brought low, to
recognize your dependence on something other than yourself.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
That's right. So so to this thing about conforming, so
Tyler there, we're always everyone's different at different levels of it.
But but at some at some point, we have to
take into account everything that's everything that's in our sphere
(18:07):
around us, whether it's what we're listening to, what we're watching,
who we're hanging out with, where are we gathering, where,
where's our where are we gathering to worship on Sundays.
It's take into account every single thing in our lives
because it's all a liturgy. Well, the world is a liturgy.
(18:31):
So when we build our church service, for instance, the
liturgy is the order of the service and all the
things in it, and we order it in a specific way,
and the world orders it in a specific way. Back
to this book, I don't even mean to talk about this,
but I forgot the guy's name Smith something. His name
is last name Smith. You are what you love. But
(18:55):
he talks about how a shopping mall when he wrote
it in the time, malls were huge. Malls are like
cathedrals with the peak ceiling, the high ceilings and the
you know, the way that you walk in through the
entrance and you and then it expand and it gets
big and there's music playing. You can hear the echo
and then you could see the lights and the colors
(19:16):
and the you know, the food court, and the world
orients itself as as a liturgy. That's speaking into your life,
that's conforming you, that's softening certain parts of you and
hardening certain parts of you. This is the same thing
the Word of God does. And so Paul saying, your
choice conform the world transformed by the renewal of your mind.
(19:41):
And back to the making the decision versus God saves.
These are two parallel lines that only intersect in heaven.
God's will for your life and man's responsibility to respond
to that will. Those two things. There's a tension that
it exists between those two things, and they that they
(20:03):
both run parallel, and they're both in necessity seen most
prominently at the cross. There's two things that we must believe.
One Christ went to the cross to die for sinners,
and God predestined that before time as the plan to
redeem a people. God did it. Then on the other side,
(20:28):
man and his sin murdered the Christ, rejected him, they
like they did the prophets, and hung him on that cross,
sending nails through his hands and feet, sending a spirit
through his side. They murdered him, the guilty murdered the
innocent man. Both of those truths coexist at the same time.
(20:49):
So God says, my will for you is to be sanctified,
So be sanctified. My will for you to is you
to be humbled, humble yourselves.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
It literally says it in our text, be transformed. Yeah,
and so it's like be transformed, like take action and
then like to be transformed. It is like implying that
it's like being done to you right by the renewal
of your mind. It's kind of interesting. Yeah, how do
(21:21):
you renew your mind? Yeah, that's interesting, Uh, renew, Like
it's too renew your mind. I'd have to think, like
what does that word renew mean? Is that like similar
to redeem, like to set it back to its original purpose?
Speaker 2 (21:39):
To make new again?
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Yeah, to make new again almost like our minds are
corrupted and sick, and they there's like a sense in
which they need to go back to their original purpose.
And so I think that the answer would have to
be through reading and thinking about God's word revealed in scripture.
(22:04):
So I know there's a lot there's a verse coming
to mind.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
If you're gonna be well, all I'm gonna do is
just take us to the next verse in Romans twelve.
So the next verse. Listen now, because if the Bible
must always be read in context anyway, which is why
we would we would discourage taking verses and taking them
out of the context of the of the Bible itself
and putting it on a wooden sign and putting putting
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it in your kitchen. Nothing wrong with doing that, but
living your life for that verse out of the context
of the verses around it becomes dangerous. For an instance,
we could start to think that, how do you conform
your mind? What's all on you? Whence we read the canon,
we know that what's never on you. Are you responsible? Yes,
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but you do it by the power of the Holy Spirit.
Always there's always an indication. So Romans twelve three, as
he goes on for by the grace given to me,
I say to everyone among you think, do not think
of himself more highly than he ought to think, but
to think with sober judgment, each according to the measure
of faith that God has assigned. So you see the tension.
(23:14):
It's throughout the entire Bible. But there it is again. Hey,
don't think of yourself more high than you should think
about yourself, but think with sober judgment according to the
faith that God gave you. To think with right.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, yeah, that's crazy. It reminds me of Philippians where
he says, so fear God, for it is he who
works in you both to will and work for his
good pleasure. Yeah. So it's like, do this because he's
the word working in you, both, working your desires and
your actions for his glory.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I'm so glad we started this whole conversation with the
Lord saving making a decision thing because those two things
must exist, you know, and that tension is it seems
to be what we're talking about today that the the
wrong teaching is to stick with only one of those
two things. The wrong teaching is do it. It's all
(24:16):
up to you, So do it. Stop sinning, it's all
up to you. That's wrong teaching. The other wrong teaching.
God does it. God will fix you. Christ died for sins.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
You have no responsibility.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Christ out of the cross. It's grace man, you have forgiven.
All your sins are forgiven. So essentially, don't worry about it.
I mean, God's gonna fix you. God's going to patch
up all your Like churches use the term wounds and scars.
I don't like those terms because they hide the deeper
term of sin, but both of the things exist at
(24:48):
the same time. Yes, do it stop sinning. Jesus says,
sin no more, Sin no more. And then the flip
side is it's always by grace that you're inn to
stop sinning Romans eight thirteen. So that that tension is
important and for the for the For this particular podcast,
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we're talking about the responsibility of man two don't be
conformed to the world. So it goes back to practical measures.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, it's interesting to think about. Sorry you finishing thought,
but uh, it reminded me of h first John two.
Or it kind of explains what this world is. For
all that is in the world, the desires of the
flesh and the desires of the eyes, and the pride
of life is not from the Father, but is from
(25:45):
this world. So if you kind of break down those
three things so that we could think about what is
the world? What is the thing that we're supposed to avoid.
You think about desires of the flesh, the desires of
the eyes, and the pride of life, do you think like, okay,
the desires of the flesh would be like those innate
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desires of passion within us that are sinful, whether that
be like lust or adultery or greed. You have the
desires of the eyes and like craving like what you see,
of like coveting or envying what another man has. And
then the pride of life is like that pride that's
(26:28):
within us, of like the hardening of heart, of like
desiring to be feared by men, that status, that desire
for notoriety. That's like all everything that the world teaches
you that you should seek after, is like do whatever
makes you happy. Your purpose of your life is to
(26:49):
have as many pleasurable experiences as possible, regardless of what happens.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Just follow your.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Heart, destroy your competition, be the best. Girls want you
and guys want to be you. That's your goal in life.
And then be grow a company or a career so
big that that people wish they could be you. And
(27:17):
so you have as much influence as possible, and it
all revolves around you. You're the main character at your story.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
And what I used to pray and still do occasionally,
but I used to pray every day for EE Apparel.
The same prayer that I actually prayed for this very
podcast this morning, was Lord, would you grow this company
if it's for your glory, And if it's not, will
(27:44):
you destroy it? What brings you glory? Lord? Does this
podcast bring you glory? Then? Lord, will you magnify that
you didn't.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Come talk to me about that? My pride in my
ego to be a part of that too. You know, Lord,
if ye and a hail ship ain't going down, because
I got everything to do with it.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
When when it was, everything was changing for us and
our company and with the Brothers. I remember one time
we played a show on the last on the Farewell tour.
It was absolutely pouring down rain. I don't remember where
it was. I feel like it was in Pennsylvania. It
was pouring down rain and the the the it was
(28:30):
already a sold out outdoor festival, so the people were
pouring out to go to their cars. But there was
also a group of people that were excited because now
they got to go to the concert because they were
left out of the gate. So there it was simultaneously
people were pouring out and another group was pouring in,
(28:51):
and Dusty and I were looking out of the window
this whole thing and filming. It was hilarious looking. But
there was a time when our company was like that,
when my social media was like that, like, it's still
my social media I think is the same number since
when I left touring, because so many people have left
me and a new group has come in. And so
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I would pray, Lord, if ye apparel is something that
reflects your glory or our shows Christ to the world, Lord,
will you will you exalt that company and and and
grow it? But if it's not, destroy it, kill it, Lord,
(29:38):
wipe it off the face of the earth. And I said,
I said the same prayer for this very podcast this
morning nine nine for one podcast. It's it's still new.
What episode is this ten? Yeah? Or episode ten? God,
if this is if this is something, if this is
if this would be a platform that shows people Jesus
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and magnifies his glo or will you grow it while
keeping us humble with it? But if it's not, will
it just go away forever? You just bury it? And
after you say a prayer like that, you go back
to work. You go back and work your butt all right,
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with a ton of peace. But with a ton of peace.
Yeah that's good.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's uh. As long as you can
pray that earnestly. I think it's not that I have
it all together by any means or that we do.
But if you can pray that, if you're listening, and
you can pray that earnestly about really anything that's temporal
in this world, if you can hold it. Remember Chad
Warren one time he was like, it's the difference between
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holding something with a closed fist and an open hand
that God's given you. And so he like, put a
knife in my hand. We're eating lunch, and he gave
me like a butter knife or whatever. He said, hold
out your fist facing down and clenched. That would be
something that got the Lord's given you, that you're you've
clung onto too tightly. And then he said, not open
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up your hand. Each each circumstance, you are holding the
thing that the Lord's given you, but in two completely
different postures, and so slowly over time, like anything the
Lord's given me. Sometimes I can just feel my hand
just slowly start to grab it and turn, and I
just feel my heart getting tethered to it, and I
just have to pray, Oh God, keep my hand open,
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so I could be content without this thing. I don't
need this thing. Just to pray that over my family
and my career, my bank account.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
If you ever want to fill that with ye life,
just let me know me and Grange will.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Take over for you. It's a pretty successful channel when
when someone says something like that. You know what American
Christianity says a lot of times in response to what
you just said, They go, amen, brother God and family
over everything. But you see what they did. You see
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what that? You see the distinction? Amen, brother boy, I
just keep the only things in my fist that's closed
is my family and my God. But you just made
your family an idol. But what you said, you didn't
say that. You said everything, including your family, must be
held with an open hand. And I say that as
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a father who's lost a son. You know that's held
a dead son. Hey, you have to hold everything with
an open hand. The Lord gives, the Lord takes away.
If you don't do that, your own idol will eat
you alive and it will crush you. I was looking
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on in this passage because if you haven't read Romans,
if you're listening right now and you haven't read romans,
that are really any of the Bible, but specifically today
we're looking at Romans. That man, it's just it never ends.
It never ceases to be. The next paragraph is something
you'll want to know, Parker. You were saved. The Lord
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saved you by Romans. You like? You? Like how I
said that Lord saved you by reading Romans? Right? What chapter?
Do you remember? What chapter? What part? Uh?
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Yeah, you told me. You told me in twenty twenty
one to read to read Romans. I said, I'm a Christian,
but we should do a video on it each of
our testimonies at some point. But I said I'm a Christian.
I just I don't. I don't desire to read the Bible.
I can't read half the page without falling asleep. It's like,
I'm a Christian, but I'd rather go get bottle service
on the weekend and go to church, but like find
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God in my own place. And then actually I started
like pushing a little bit more towards Jordan Peterson's theology
of well, maybe Jesus was just the highest construct of
good and that we should all just desire to be
like that and he just rappers anyway. But that's a
long that's a long road. But Peterson would take the
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Bible was a true myth, at least back in twenty
nineteen when I used to listen to him very regularly.
I know his wife converted to Catholicism, But yeah, I
started to think that the Bible was like a true myth,
meaning that it taught true things, but it wasn't. It
didn't actually happen. And now I just see how stupid
that is because of how historically reliable the scriptures are
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and now they've just proven themselves over and over again.
But yeah, so Granger told me to read the Book
of Romans. I read Romans one and it said they
exchanged the truth about God for a lie, worshiping and
serving created things rather than the Creator. And for the
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first time of my life, I was like this is interesting,
Like I'm not like really bored all of a sudden.
And then I read the little footnote and said they
knew God, but they didn't want God, and I was
like in that moment, I was like wait a second,
Like you can believe in God and still be going
to hell, like acknowledging God's existence doesn't save you. And
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I was like, man, I should keep reading this. And
then I just like read about all these sins and
Romans and I was like, you check, check, that's all
me Yeah, that's all me. Wow, I think I really
overlooked something in this. Uh so, yeah, Romans. Romans is
crazy when.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
You're reading like you're talking about and you get to
you know, one, two, three, chapter four, and you get
to chapter five and you see what we're saved from,
which is often that you know, people think about saved
from ourselves or saved from the devil, and it's actually
not what what Romans five ten says. We were enemies.
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It says, so if while we were enemies with God,
we're reckon where if we enemies, we were reconciled to
God by the death of the Son, much more than
now that we are reconciled, shall we be saved by
his life? It says been in Romans five to one. Therefore,
since we have been justified by faith, we have peace
with God. We have peace with God. Which is crazy
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to think that all this time, as an unbeliever, you're
out of peace with God and you're an enemy.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
With him, which is why the primary message of evangelism
can't be only that Jesus loves you.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
We can't listen Romans not enemy of God. Since therefore
we've been now justified by His blood talking about Christ.
Much more, shall we be saved by him from the
wrath of God. He stepped in and took our place
as an enemy. He became an enemy in that sense.
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He became a sinner in that sense, he became unrighteous
in that sense. He became the acute, the accused, and
took on the punishment another word for punishment in the
Bible that we see a lot as chastisement. He was chastised,
he was punished, it's a legal term. And he was punished, abused,
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treated as guilty, treated as an enemy, and the wrath
of God poured on to him. I mean the wrath
of God poured onto him so that he could stand
in our place and take it so that we could
walk free. Nothing else could set us free, but the
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perfect son of God. The longer you meditate on that,
then you see the love of Jesus. That's where the
love of Jesus comes from, not because he's sweet and
accepting of anything you do. It's because he stepped in
your place and took all those little sweet things that
you did that were sin on his own body. Because
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he loves you. That's where the love comes in, right,
That's the gospel. So do you guys have anything in
your life recently that you feels like you're pulling away
from the conforming of the world and you're cutting it
off and moving towards the trans transforming of your mind.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
People are gonna think, We're like, that's so extreme. I
feel exactly what I want them to think.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
I do. I want people to go, what is wrong
with these guys?
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Like no one's in my head, Like, no one's gonna
listen to this podcast Grangers talking about stopping listening to
country music out here he's telling me to not go
to country concerts. Like even what I was about to
say about like yeah, I just feel like, yeah, what
do you say? Well, I was the first thing that
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comes to mind is I've like literally actively been praying
God make me care less about college football this season.
She just sounds like Jays laughing, Like it sounds so ridiculous.
It's like it's just football, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (39:18):
And like it's a liturgy of the world.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
There's been several times recently where I felt something start
to like uh, I Like, for instance, I was playing
Battlefield six. There's nothing wrong with playing video games, right
If video games are not inherently sinful, depending on like
the type of game that you're playing. So I was
playing Battlefield six like pretty much every day in the
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office on my lunch break, and I just felt it
get to a point where I was like, oh, it
was like it just like what we were talking about earlier.
I could just felt feel like it was just like
kind of hearty in my heart, and like, do I
feel like caring for church members?
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Literally?
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Well, right after I play this, or am I just
kind of pissed off because like I just died a
bunch of times, and like I just remember specifically praying
in the last few weeks. God helped me to like
not care about video games as much as I used to,
and like boom, like that very next week, it was
just like yeah, no, I feel like you just like
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immediately answered that prayer. So that's an example of something
that and then like that's I just feel like I
have these idols and then like it's like, all right,
what's next on the list? What's something that I could
ask right that he at your right hand is fullness
of joy? What am I finding joy in more than you?
That's just actually kind of distracting and like not pulling
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me closer to you. So for me that was like
video games and then like potentially college football as that's
this season comes up, like help me enjoy it, like
a good godly person can just enjoy college football and
not be sinful. But if I can't, then just take
it away from me and help me not care. And
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he's like been faithful to answer that prayer with lots
of things.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
I love that man, and I want people to listen
to this and go, these guys are going too far.
You remember when we had Easy on Aunt and he
Easy from Living Waters had such a great illustration and
he said, the society's like this. If you if you're
a smoker your whole life, and you could get that,
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you can get the picture of your lung, what looked,
what it looks like. You know what a smoker's lung
looks like. And you decide to quit smoking, and you
do it, whatever system you do, maybe it's cold Turkey.
And then you go thirty days and you go to
people and you say, man, I quit smoking. It's been
thirty days. I feel good, I feel healthier. And people
(41:54):
hear that and they go, dude, congratulations, I'm so happy
for you. But if you go, guys, I quit college football.
He was becoming an idol in my life was taken over.
I didn't feel like I could serve my church after
being absorbed in the you know, the anxiety of it.
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So I quit spend thirty days. People would go, you
have lost your mind because we've prioritized these sins depending
on how they affect us on the outside. Smoking obviously
affects your body on the outside, and and and any
other idol affects you from the inside. So you know,
(42:37):
playing a video game might be crushing you on the inside,
but you're not a smoker. So the world applauds you, like,
good job on eating less carbs and not smoking. And
then you go back and you're playing video games and
it's it's destroying you. That's why the world goes this
podcast is ridiculous, you know.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Yeah, it just reminds me of like Paul saying, like
all those things can be lawful, but not all of
them are helpful, and so it's like not so much
like is this particular thing sinful could be, but is
it helpful? And so like choose what's more, Just choose
what's more helpful, And then just like ask God to
just continue to change, like literally renew your mind. What
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am I thinking about? What brings me like pleasure? Like
renew my mind to the things that are just more helpful,
so that I would desire to do that, so that
I could be that vessel for honorable use like he
talks about in second Timothy, so that I could just
be more useful of my time here on earth.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
You guys got something something Lord's working on you with.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
Yeah, I stopped reading the Bible. That's a good thing
to get all the way all the way through in
one year. I want to hear you finish. I didn't
purpose for dramatic effect stop reading it all the way
through in one year. I've done it twice now, which
is great. But I was reading it to get to
the end result starting on this date, ending on this date.
(44:06):
Cool accomplished. And so now I'm going through like I
even did it. Today we were talking about another verse,
and so I'll go in and I'll start doing research
on the setting. Now you know, we don't pull screen
like particular passages out of context. I've now tried to
do that with a whole chapter. Let's let's set the
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whole chapter in context, what happened before, what happens after?
Where were they and who they were, who were they
talking to? What was what was going on in their
life and their situation that he you know that that
poll's writing into. And so that's kind of how I've
been reading now, So I only read I read much
fewer chapters every day. I now read two instead of four,
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So read two. But it's actually ends up being longer
in time because there's like there's a whole reading before
I get into the chapter, and then off times I'll
go back into a specific First, there was one today
in so that I was reading. I was like, I
don't know what that means, So let's go look up
what would this whole line mean? What does this whole
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verse mean? And then it's this dissertation basically you know,
it's like two paragraphs of what was going on here?
Speaker 2 (45:17):
And so you're telling me your sanctification is so far
advanced that what you're what you're dealing with right now
is the amount of Bible you're reading. I want to
be man, No, that's that's definitely, But I got to
I got to like, man, I'm like, I'm giving up
video games. What are you giving up I'm I'm giving
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up the old system of reading the Bible.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
Well, no, but I was going to say what I
love about what you said, Parker.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
Is I think that that is the living, tangible example
of what we read at the beginning of renewing your mind.
That's a constant renewing of your mind. Renewing your mind
doesn't happen one time. It's not a magic spell. It's
not something you repeat one time and oh cool, mine's dude,
move on about your life.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
It's that it's a constant renewal of your mind.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
What is taking the place of the Lord and his
purpose in my life right now?
Speaker 2 (46:11):
Is it the love of college football? Cool?
Speaker 1 (46:13):
Let's address that? Is it the love of this video game?
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Cool?
Speaker 1 (46:16):
Let's address that? Is it what I'm eating? Cool? Let's
address that. Is it smoking? Is it dipping? Is it drinking?
What is it?
Speaker 3 (46:24):
Let's find those and I think that is that's I
think it's a tangible walking out. Hey, look at this
as an example of when somebody asked, what is renewing
your mind?
Speaker 1 (46:34):
This?
Speaker 3 (46:36):
But this on the long term, this this year, this month,
this this week.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
And to speak to what you're talking about your sanctification
with your Bible. Reading your disciplines could become an idol
to you, sure, because you rely on your disciplines and
not on the goal of the discipline itself.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
My discipline was a McShane plan. Cool, did it all
the way through?
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (46:56):
But what did I get out of it? Well, I've
read the Bible all the way through? Do you know anything?
What it's Do you remember? Like when I I thought
of that the second time I read it, I was like,
I don't remember reading this. I clearly read it because
I did it all the way through last time. And
then when I read it the second time, I'm look,
I don't remember this, And now that I'm digging deeper,
I'm like, I don't remember this.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
About you?
Speaker 4 (47:18):
Yeah, I did the same thing Mickshange planned, and I
felt the same way.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
And it's great you.
Speaker 4 (47:24):
Yeah, I think it's great.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
If you've never read all this.
Speaker 4 (47:27):
It's ad because with me, I was like almost dreading
it because I was like, man, I just can't wait
to be done because this is so long, so much.
Wait a minute, this isn't how I need to be
reading it. So after that I went straight to like
just reading one of the Gospels, like one verse at
a time and like rereading it, cooking stuff.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
That's where I started the gospel. Right now, I'm doing.
Speaker 4 (47:48):
Proverbs with some buddies and I love it, man, just
like it's and I'm reading Psalms on my morning time, yeah,
paired with like you know, right now it's First Corinthians
and I just did Romans. But it's song fifty six
was my thing this morning. It's like short, sweet adjustable.
I was like, man, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
So last week you and I were talking about war
and Iran and you were like war, you know, But
over this last week that's actually become a really big discussion.
Is it war or is it not war? Should we
call it a war? You know, Vietnam War, the Golf War,
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the war on drugs? Like when do we use that word? Anyway,
that's a side note, but I thought it was funny
that the little discussion you and I had was actually
a huge discussion because Trump's saying war, and a lot
of other people were saying, this is not a war,
it's a conflict.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
A conflict, yes, because war is declared by it.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
So what should we talk about next week? Comment below
on this video. What we should talk about next week, Parker,
would you pull up?
Speaker 1 (48:56):
I was just looking up what an actually taler said
reminded me of a quote. I can find the exact quote.
I think it was one of the Puritans that said,
somebody says that they understand a portion of Scripture, but
it's not driving them to love God or love others more,
and that they have not understood it. And so it's
the temptation to like say, I want to read these
four chapters of scripture of scripture this morning, boom did it.
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But if it hasn't driven you to like think about
your relationship with God and who he is and his
characteristics until driven you to literally love him more and
then to turn and love others more, probably haven't gotten
out of it what God intended for you two. So
like I'd rather read one verse a day if it
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actually is impacting my heart.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
Yeah, verse for the people.
Speaker 4 (49:44):
So I'm fifty six y three, I read this morning
when I'm afraid I would trust in you.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
Love that verse. So I think this we could do
another episode at some point about the sanctification or about
the physic you know, like more of I'm checking the
Netflix ratings now before I watch it. I think we
could have more specific discussion, but this one is just
kind of opening up the idea that the Christian walk is,
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it is a daily dying to self. And if if
there's comments about this, I would love to see comments
on this. I think instead of a book giveaway, I
would like to keep for people to read Romans in
its entirety. If you're gonna, if you if you're gonna
engage with us and be willing to read a book,
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read the Book of Romans and and watch the arc
of the the argument that Paul makes in these in
in this book. And so that being said, comment below,
how should I say this? I loved last week. I
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love going to the video last week and seeing we
need biblical men and iron. Yeah that was so cool. Yeah,
you know, if you haven't heard the podcast, and that's all,
especially if you forget all these people are saying that,
so we need, we need, we need to read. We
should all read the Book of Romans again, something like that,
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a comment like that, we should all read the Book
of Romans again. You do that and we will sign
a Bible, and I'll send a Bible to you. We
will mail it out to you. We need to read
the Book of Romans again. What did I say we
should read the Book of Romans. We should all read
the Book of Romans again. Comment below on our YouTube
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page ninety nine for one the podcast and comment, we
should all read the Book of Romans again and we
and we will sign it and pick a what kids
can pick a winter and we'll ship it out to you. Yeah.
Do we have any comments from last week? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (51:58):
Yeah, I wish I could live under the same way
as Tyler.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
And seriously, also comment below whether wherever you're listening, comment
some topic ideas sure that you would want us to
to unpack as the Crazy Christian Podcast.
Speaker 3 (52:14):
Shout out to Jill in Virginia, great informative episode. I
learned a lot. Thank you, Jill, appreciate you. Laurie, great podcast.
Ye Ye from Ontario, Canada, Jason said, I was looking
for a movie to watch on Pure Flicks and came across.
Speaker 1 (52:27):
Your movie Moonrise.
Speaker 3 (52:29):
Watched that it was really cool and then discovered a
whole there's it's a it's like three paragraphs, but it was.
It was a great comment on there, Rachel said, thank
you for being at a group of biblically sound men
for my husband and so many others around the world
to listen to. Yeah, if you've got somebody you think
this podcast would be greatful, be awesome if you shared
it with.
Speaker 2 (52:46):
Them, it'd be crazy to do. Yeah. Yeah, we clearly
we don't want everyone to have a gospel conversation go
by without the gospel. And but we clearly did that
in this episode. We say by grace through faith, and
this is not our own doing. It is the gift
of God, not a result of work, so that no
man may boast in Christ debt on the cross. And
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if you read the Book of Romans, like my assignment
would be to you, the gospels all over it. That's
all we got. If you.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
Are watching on YouTube, you'll knows. Tyler shirt actually is
a shirt that just released in our spring launch with EEE.
So we just did our EEE Apparel spring launch and
the one Tyler has on right now, it's got four
symbols on it. And so our desire was to create
something that would be able to subtlely share the gospel
or to provoke conversations. So it has a crown, a
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man across in like an arrow representing God man Christ's
response and So that's a really good way to be
able to share the gospel. And then our hope is
that those shirts will sell thousands and that they will
provoke Gospel Center conversations with people as they wonder what
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those symbols are. And it's just a good way to
remember it because sharing the gospel can be intimidating. We
have a ton of people that ask about this hat too. Yeah, no,
those is in it right?
Speaker 2 (54:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:08):
So the hat I'm wearing this is Jesus Lord Tyler designed.
It's really cool camo, and the one ant Man's holding
is our nine nine one hat, which is actually much
more on brand for the podcast, Thank you, ant Man,
Tyler created this real tree hat that says nine to
nine four one on it's that's really cool. So that
just released too. Hopefully it's still in stock when you're
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watching this.
Speaker 2 (54:31):
Yeah, that's going to go out of stock quick. Huh.
That's such a cool hat you can put your mind.
People either ask about that hat or why I don't
do the Smiths anymore? Those are like the two main comments.
Speaker 1 (54:42):
Why don't you do the smith anymore?
Speaker 2 (54:44):
There's no real reason besides just been busy writing and
you didn't get burned down time with my family.
Speaker 4 (54:49):
And I mean maybe a little bit also because the
views dropped, didn't they.
Speaker 2 (54:54):
It's always it's always motivating to see a lot of views.
But it was about the same at the end. It
just yeah, I guess it was more so that you
didn't see the growth. It just was years and years.
But it's the channel's not done. We're just it's hard
to be motivated.
Speaker 4 (55:08):
Yeah, I was thinking about your kids are older now.
Speaker 2 (55:10):
It's like I don't want to.
Speaker 4 (55:12):
I might be embarrassed if I was fourteen my dad,
come on, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (55:16):
So maybe that's a reason. No, that those are all
the reasons. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, but it's not dead.
It's just I've been busy and part of the business
is hanging out with my family and joining them. That's
part of the business. Even I don't like that. We
all know. I don't like that word. I prefer to
say fool. It's been full. So is that is that
we got recover everything? Yeah, Kaden, just making sure we
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don't have the good conversation. We stop recording this time.
We have a habit of stopping recording and then having
the deep conversation. So let's pretend like we're finishing and
Tyler's about to say some really profound thing, and I was.
Speaker 4 (55:50):
Just gonna say my thing conforming to this world I
think as girls. I was just trying to work through
it in my head, though I didn't I didn't know
if it was, you know, applicable to this conversation. But again,
I just like, you think that you're getting far and
like your sanctification or like oh I'm over that sin
or I'm over that that lustful thought or something. Then
(56:12):
literally yesterday I found myself about to text this girl
and I was like, what are you doing? You know
she's not a believer. Why are you Why are you
doing this?
Speaker 2 (56:21):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (56:22):
Yeah, so I just deleted her number, like I have
no delete, like flee from you know, flee run from
sexual immorality. It's like, Lord, please continue to like that's
the flesh in me and like the sin and me
coming up. And it's only because of the Lord that
I'm able to that he allows me to delete. That
is such a great example and such a great story
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of God did it, and you crushed it. You crushed
it because God did it. Say whatever word you want,
God's sovereignty over your life, Tyler, your mind, I've redeemed
you now sin no more and through the power of
the Holy Spirit, you kill it. Yeah, and that's dude,
that's so freeing and so like, you know, like if
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he does have somebody for me, it's like it's all
his doing, Like I'll be open, like Parker is saying,
I'm open, like if I'm cool and content or whatever.
But it's like when you you know, because in the
past it was it was me, like I'm doing this,
like you're hot, I'm gonna date you. And yeah, it's
just such a freeing Like that poor girl she was
(57:27):
about to get a text from Kyler Smith and now
she's not even in the moon anymore. Seductress and temptress.
And you've been a proverb in the middle of PB
literally proverb six.
Speaker 1 (57:40):
The Bible is just literally an instruction manual and so
many different things in life, like proverbs just.
Speaker 4 (57:45):
The key to on lock all of all of your
questions for life. Proverbs is so awesome.
Speaker 3 (57:50):
It's a way different girl conversation than the one Grain
journ I had before this one about raising girls for.
Speaker 2 (57:58):
The conversation yeah, mhm, yeah, yeah, that's what about to
talk about when the camera turns off. I love you, guys,
See you next episode.
Host
Granger Smith
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