January 19, 2026 • 54 mins
Episode 2 of the 9941 Podcast tackles a question many Christians quietly wrestle with: How should believers think about nicotine? In an honest, Scripture-centered conversation, Granger Smith, Tyler Smith, Parker Smith, and AntMan explore the difference between Christian freedom and spiritual slavery—asking whether substances like nicotine, caffeine, or alcohol have dominion over our lives or are simply neutral tools.
Drawing from passages like Romans 12, 1 Corinthians 6, Galatians 5, and Romans 8, the group discusses addiction, conscience, legalism, cheap grace, and the responsibility believers have not to place stumbling blocks in front of others.
The episode also features a powerful testimony of a man in Japan who came to faith through daily Scripture reading and discipleship, illustrating the heart of the 9941 mission: reaching the one and equipping the ninety-nine. The conversation closes with a clear presentation of the gospel and a reminder that true freedom is found not in self-control alone, but in Christ alone.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm Granger, I'm the an Man, I'm Tyler, I'm Parker.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
What's up, everybody?
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Welcome to the ninety nine for one podcast, where our
goal is to seek the one and equip the ninety
nine to do the same. It's gonna be a good
show today episode two.
Speaker 4 (00:12):
Yeah, back for episode two. Today we're gonna be talking
about how should Christians feel about nicotine? This actually started
as a conversation off Mike's last week. It just naturally
started for like, Hey, that would be a good idea,
let's talk about that. So we are here this week.
Before we do, thank you for watching, listening, commenting everything
that you did on episode number one. Fantastic first episode
(00:35):
and it seems like a lot of you guys liked
it too. Kendall want to send a shout out to you.
I somehow stumbled into your world. I think talking to Granger,
I do not listen to country music. In fact, I
kind of dislike it. In fact, I'm not a fan
of most of the things that would probably make up
your typical viewer or listener. Despite all of this, I've
(00:57):
been greatly encouraged by your journey and have been inspired.
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
So I like it.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Ricky Boyd said, I'm excited about this new podcast. I
still hope you stay relatable to the average guy you
always have been. Remember the passes. It says, now the
tax collectors and sinners are all gathered around to hear
Jesus excited about the new chapter and God is key,
no doubt. But some talk about trucks and four wheel
drives and just guy stuff mixed in keeps it relatable
(01:25):
and brings some new viewers. I know you aren't trying
to reach big volumes of people, but it's not a
bad thing if you do. Love your podcast. I love
the approach of like talking to a buddy in the cab.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Of a pickup truck.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
I like that too. Cindy said, I absolutely love this
new podcast. I followed your podcast journey since it started
in your bus. Love seeing how God has changed your
life and the lives of your brothers.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
My request to these comments, thank you all y'all for
these comments. My request is put where you're from?
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Yes, absolutely, I'd love to know where you're listening or
watching from. That would be really cool.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I would like to know for the next episode where
the furthest person is from us, right now maybe maybe Kintaro.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
And I was just about to say soon as soon
as kin starts h if he's watching, if he comments.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
You'd better be watching, Yeah, Kintaro. Just incredible, incredible story
from Ye Nation. I haven't even told you this, amen,
but as the Lord is working in his heart and
Cantaro started for everybody, just to just a backstory. I mean,
most of us know him, but he was just a
(02:37):
fan of the music. He came, I believe twice to
hear me play in the second time he came was no, no, yeah, yeah,
it came to us. The first time was our farewell tour.
I believe that was the first time he came. And
he came to Billy Bob's and so saw our final show.
So we met him. Came from Japan. It's a big
deal to have a you know, a guy from Japan
that's a fan. So we and he was a big
(02:58):
he's been a big fan of the apparel company Ye Ye.
So then he comes again for Ye Fast last year
and he told me something. He said, Hey, man, you
you mentioned at Billy Bob's that you asked the crowd,
what would anyone follow you to the next stage? And
he goes, I don't really know what that next stage is.
(03:20):
You're talking about the God and stuff, but I'm interested
in knowing how to follow you there. And so we
sat down in the office of ye ye uh you
know eeee fast is going on outside. He came a
little bit early. We had this long conversation. I told
him the Gospel told him the good News of Jesus,
which which Barker's going to tell us here at the
end of this episode. And he was like, I'm I
(03:46):
don't know what to think of all this, but I'm
interested in hearing more. So we continued to talk, continue
to have these conversations, and I got him started on
reading Matthew, the Book of Matthew, and then we would
talk every day through reading the Book of Matthew, and
he would have questions and we would have these, you know,
just in depth discussions about Matthew. And then he went
(04:06):
back home to Japan and I just said, Hey, all
I'm asking to do is just show up, just keep
reading every day and message. I'll message you every day.
We won't skip a day, We'll just keep talking. So
it was like I'd have to talk to him Tataro.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
It was like.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Some somewhere in I think it was towards the end
of Matthew he became aware of his sin and a
need for Christ and he was converted.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
He knew.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
He even said, I screenshoted the message from a long
time ago about my heart aches for my sin, for
what I've done to God, and I ask Lord Jesus
to save me. It was like the most beautiful unscripted
conversion words. And I just cried when I read that,
and I said, brother, you here a Christian. What you're
(04:57):
saying is the Lord has saved you. And he couldn't
quite articulate what it all meant, but all he knew
was he wanted more, and he kept reading, kept reading,
kept reading.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
He advanced.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Then we went on a search for a church. Japan
is a dark country. I just talked to him this
morning reminding him it's a dark country and won a
unique opportunity for a Christian to be in a dark country.
And we went through a few different churches, but we
found one close to close enough to him. In Tokyo
is huge. You could drive for two hours just on
the other side of the city. Finds a church. He
(05:28):
gets involved with the church, becomes really really in with
the members there, the pastor there. They baptized him. Since
me the video of his baptism. This is like the
timelines going by. Everyone's pouring into them. He's starting to
love them. Things are changing at work. He goes from
kind of being angry and disgruntled a lot of times
(05:50):
to like now, he starts becoming kind and wanting to
wanting to show the love of Christ to people. His
just anxiety levels going down. The pastor everyone's seeing this.
He starts eating lunches and dinners with gathering with the members.
And just a few days ago he reached out to
me and said the pastor is now ready to start
(06:11):
pastoral training with him.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
No way, are you serious. That's incredib I was gonna say.
He's starting to provide commentary on his readings every day
on social media. He'll he'll give the scripture and he'll
provide commentary on it.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
He has not skipped the day. That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Let me let me read you what he said today
this morning. And I know I can read this because
we talk every day. But he said, he's talking about
this podcast. I love the podcast. My new desire is
to reach the one out of a bunch and bring
the light by the Lord to the one each day.
He said, Today I saw my favorite Christian customer friend.
(06:54):
She came in and we had some conversations. She mentioned
that her son is influenced by my faith, talking about
himself as well, and he wants to hang out with
me at some point, and I have to already have
some amazing ideas. I'm willing to invite him to my
church as well. I wanted to sit down and talk
about the Gospel and read together. So we're going to
start in Matthew one man.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Incredible. I love that that's the one that was reached.
Who's now reaching another one?
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Now going to start reading. The process begins again. Yep,
as the Lord multiplies and it begins. Sorry, I got
way off on a tangent.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
That was good. That was really good. We give away
of a book, first book last week that has been picked.
So if check your DMS or whatever, Cayden's taking care
of that. We'll have another book giveaway at the end
of this episode and we'll tell you what to comment
with in order to be in that writing coming up
a little bit later on. But first, our topic today,
(07:50):
how should Christians feel about nicotine. So how did this
this conversation started because we were talking about do we
First I want to say that any any kind of
health conversation in this is just about personal journeys. It
has nothing to do with actual medical advice. So no
(08:10):
one take it as that if there is any in here.
But we started with and also name brands. Should we
bring that up because it's kind of okay, well, because
we're talking, so we don't give medical advice, but we
could occasionally drop name brands and not you know, not
be sponsored. It's Zen? Is that is that one of them?
Is that a big one? Yeah, that's where the conversation
started last week, like, oh this this there's actually I
(08:34):
think I've heard of health benefits from nicotine. And the
first thing people think is, no way, smoking is terrible.
I'm not talking about smoking. I'm talking about figuring out.
What I was thinking then was figuring out your own
journey about the actual elements of things that are now.
Last year I had a stroke, so I was you know,
(08:54):
I've been processing through every kind of almost element that
you put into your to your it into your body
now and thinking about how it affects from top of
your head to the bottom of your feet, how it
affects that health journey. And I've read stuff about nicotine
in super small doses that can be beneficial to some people.
(09:17):
Do I say that, I say that correctly.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
This podcast is not about giving health advice. No, that's
a disclaimer.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Yeah, that's yeah, that's what I said at the very beginning. Continue, yes,
and that's but that's what piqued my interest when I
heard you guys talking about.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
So what's the question.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
How Christians feel about that?
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Well, don't ask me that because I'm struggling with it
right now.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Are you for me?
Speaker 3 (09:44):
That actually makes you a perfect person to speak to it,
because you're a Christian that uses nicotine.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
It's perfect. Yeah. Yeah, you know how this started for me.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Was by the way, this is not an intervention for
Tyler either.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
No. No, I am the guy.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I am the guy that has trademark put a good
dip in.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
I don't know trademark. I wake up? Did you or
did Earl? I'm confused now because I mean here, let's
I'm a country boy.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
It's twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
I'm back picking college football games based on who's more
countryfied this.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
A little bit.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
We like to call, dip them and pick them.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Yeah, both y'alls four right are we'll talk?
Speaker 3 (10:33):
So yeah, there's endless stories about Earl Dibbles Junior and nicotine.
So that that's why I think, I think this is
a good group to talk about this. And you can't
find a lot you can't find a lot on the
Internet of of conversations like this that don't overlap into
legalism sure, or abusing cheap grace. So what's the conversation
(10:57):
right in the middle of legalism and cheap grace?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Where do we fall?
Speaker 3 (11:01):
How should Christians feel about nicotine?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
What would you say your struggle is?
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, this all started for me in the touring days
in the music business, when we're on the road, when
we're on the buses and you're around your boys and
the band and the crew. There's alcohol at every single show,
whatever you want. There's all kinds of weed, whatever you want.
And for me, at some point, nicotine became the lesser
(11:31):
of the three evils. I was like, man drinking just
for horrible the next day, Like I eat a ton
of pizza after the show if I'm trump, sorry mom,
but uh sorry mom? Yeah. And then weed. I was
never a big weed, smoker, but it's just always around.
So it's like, Okay, which one of these am I
(11:52):
going to pick? Man, just being completely sober is just
gonna be real. That's hard on the road. And when
I mean what I mean completely sober, I'm not just
talking about like drugs or alcohol or weed. I'm talking
about like caffeine, I was gonna say, makes you know, Yeah, caffeine, nicotine,
like whatever masters you, whatever controls you. Whatever.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
You wake up every day four Yeah, no, we should
do four every morning. We get up with Chris.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Well, you guys did it more than me that stuff, like, yeah,
it's a it's an.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
We would get up on the road, yeah, you know,
random town in Illinois, and we would get a cup
of coffee and then her face starts itch in and
then for a cup of Sea four, a scoop of
sea four after your coffee, Yeah, and put in water.
Drinking the coffee while the uber or the runner is
coming to take us to the gym. Then by the
(12:49):
time you finish the coffee, you start sipping the Sea four.
By the time you get to the gym, your face
is just burnt, it's about to burn off. You're you're
so you're you're you're so up with this C four stuff.
I eventually stopped that. I would actually say, that's probably
more dangerous than nicotine. Way I feel because that stuff,
(13:12):
I started feeling really dizzy a lot, yeah, during the day,
and I could attribute.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
That, Yeah, that's the problem with n There's so many
layers to it. Somebody could be like, I don't do
any of that stuff. Well it could be food, could
be pizza, could be ice cream, whatever. There's so many layers.
But we're just talking about this. But yeah, that's I
think that's the danger. But with nicotine, because that's that's
my thought process too, It's like, uh, this is probably
way more dangerous than nicotine C four because my I'm
(13:42):
dizzy or I get up, I head rush or my
face is like there's physical effects, like bad effects, negative effects.
With nicotine, there's no bad effects. It's all good. It
makes you focus, lock in, you know, sharper thinking, critical thinking.
So that's my problem is like tell me something like
(14:02):
with the dip right with errodibbles, it's like, okay, this
causes cancer, mouth cancer, this is bad, don't do it. Okay, done,
I won't do it. Addictions is a negative. The addiction
is a negative, so that now we go we go
farther into the addiction, like, Okay, now now I'm struggling
with Am I doing this too to walk in and
(14:26):
focus and work on what I need to work on?
Or am I doing this because I'm bored because I'm addicted,
because I need it, because I need to function, because
I need to wake up, because I and I'm doing
it throughout the day. And you're building a great outline
for this and then and then we'll use the Bible
to go through everything you just said. And then it's
deluding the effects of what the nickeodteam does just because
(14:49):
I'm using so much of it that my body is
what's the word blunt, like, it's not it's not doing anything.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
It's a new base for you. You have to go
that or above to feel any of what you felt before.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah, And I don't, to be honest with you, I
don't feel anything. It's just addiction, you know. So Parker,
what can you what can you speak? I don't think
you ever really got into the zin packets or the.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
I put us in in one time and I couldn't
even stand up.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
I was so buzz and I was.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Like six or three. And how scary is that they
think it was? You try for the first time and
you can't stand up. I'm just popping them. That's doing.
My body is just used to it now, so it's like,
this is what's happening to my body?
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Yeah, So in college I had guys try to like
coach me through dipping, but I just could never keep
it in my lip.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
It would all just always just like get everywhere, and
I threw up. I tried like three times, and I
threw up every time, and.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
So I just was I was kept away from nicotine
un despite trying.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
People would train other people to do something that's actually
bad for you.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Bad for your so you can fit in hang out.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
I just thought it has something to do. I don't know,
and then uh, I would try.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
I tried the chaw or whatever like Earl Dibbles did,
but it just always like.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Tastes bad and kind of hurt my throat and it
was kind of gross.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
And so it's interesting because I didn't really either. I
didn't really dip. I have a story in high school
of like doing that and throw I threw up the
very first time. I remember. It was in my buddy
Peter's white Jetta threw up on the floor floorboard of
his car where it was. I was probably sixteen seven,
(16:35):
sixteen years old, so that that made me not want
to try it for a long time. But then college
kind of like Parker saying in the cork Adets at
Texas A and M, it's very normal to have a
chaw in at all times, which is probably what eventually
a few years later influenced Earl Dibbles Junior and two
that he has to have a chaw in his in
(16:55):
his jaw.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
And then I wasn't. I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
I didn't and dip it all when we first started
filming that, and so we would we would remember, we'd
have to take it out real quick. There's actually scenes
of those very first videos when Earl's like ripping it
out because it's like making me buzzed so fast of
pointing out.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
On you think you did like the whole package. Well
it started.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
I started growing a tolerance, but and I wasn't even
when Earl was on the stage, like at the very
beginning that I didn't. I didn't have a tolerance for it.
So I would get really buzzed after a show and
not feel good. But then that that started going away,
and then it turned into hey, there, me and Chris,
(17:43):
it's that there's earls. Because we would get on the rider.
We would get Levi Garrett or Redman on the rider.
So everywhere we went, we show up, there's a fresh
bag of Levi Garrett or Redman for the show that night,
because Earl's going to use the whole thing. But so
sometimes people from the audience would throw them up, like
a brand new bag, so we'd get that. So they
(18:04):
started collecting on the bus. So at some point during
the day, in the middle of the day, Chris and I,
after we had our c four and our coffee and
we worked out and we had catering, and now we're
trying to focus and do some work, We're like, hey,
hand me that brand new bag of Levi Garrett. And
(18:24):
and then we it became a daytime thing, and it
became a production meeting thing, and then it just became
until we realized, le Vi Garrett, for one, it's full
of maple syrup.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Or something like that.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
It's full of sugar, it's full of sugar molasses.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Does it also have whiskey? Was it soaked and whiskey.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
It's like literally syrup. So if you have it in
your teeth for too long, you're just having straight sugar
on your teeth.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
So there's that.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
But anyway, so then that turned into probably Copenhagen. Then
that turned into Zen. It was actually Jimmy Allen that
showed me Zin.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
He's like, man, you got you can go mess up
your teeth with that stuff. You gotta try this. It
doesn't hurt your teeth at all. So that's what started in.
And then that's me and you Todler about the same time.
And then Chris would just and for those who don't
wig off the deep end, I mean I was probably
on the bus and saw that thanks to you, and
Chris was like, well, might as well do that. The
reason I say it, and then we want to get
back to your part because you have other you have
(19:28):
other demons when you talk about but but the reason
I say, I'm trying to set the table here that
we are qualified to have this discussion. Right, That's what
I'm doing. That's what I'm trying to do. All right,
tell us about your the adderall thing, same same vein.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Well, if I'm a listener, right now, I'm like, just
talk about the nicotine. That's what I came here for.
I can talk about this briefly. I don't know how
helpful it's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Well, the only reason I say is because I don't
want to leave you out because you've never touched nicotine.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Yeah, I'm just like more disciplined than you.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Guys.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
My advice has always been I you know, I used
to have buddies in college that would uh.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I can't remember the name of the drug.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
It's like.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Bars or whatever is what they call it, and it's uh,
it just like makes it like just numbs everything and
you basically immediately go like eight beers deep trying to
just numb the world out and get really really buzzed.
And that was never really appealing. This is all before
I was saved. This is just me in college.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
And was it because of dad or before that? What
when dad died?
Speaker 4 (20:40):
What about it?
Speaker 2 (20:41):
When did you start doing that? I don't really know
the story either. I don't either. In all you just
the eight beers deep, like whatever you did, I don't
even know.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
No, I'm just saying I'm not I'm not saying. I'm
just saying.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
In college I was around guys who would do drugs
in order to numb out the world, and then you'd
go and talk to at parties and stuff and there'd
just be nobody home. And that's like what they like
to do, Like we're going to the bars. Time to
take our do the bars or whatever drugs it was,
and then let's just like not, I don't want to
remember anything, and like it's just that guy, you know.
(21:14):
And I was always just like I don't I don't
want to be that guy. I don't hate my life
that much. To not that they hated their lives, that's
just like.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
What they enjoyed to do.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
And I always like to like be clear and like
more energized and like more focused and more social, and
so I always I would rather just like get an
energy drink, like when we'd go out to the bars
or whatever, and like I enjoyed that, and so like
the highest level of that of feeling energized, I guess
(21:47):
would be cocaine. But I never did cocaine, but would
was like from a legal perspective, would be adderall. And
but that wasn't until I was in my mid twenties
and I had a buddy who showed me. I can't
remember the name of it was like an equivalent of adderall. Uh,
and it was like to work because you know, I
(22:08):
was super productive. I like to work really hard and uh.
And so I like took one of those pills and
like what like had the most productive day of work
in my life, and I was like, this is amazing.
It was like a right around the time when what's
the movie, uh, Wolfule Wall Street, No, not Wolf Limitless Limitless? Yeah,
Limitless came out and well we all know how that
(22:30):
movie ends or like it ends up being really bad
for him. But anyway, Yeah, so I ended up getting
an adderall prescription and called my doctor said like I
couldn't focus or whatever, just to get an aderall prescription.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
And so took that pretty often at work or when
we'd go out to bars or whatever. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
So that's that's what I preferred naturally in my flesh
over nicotine, which is no better. It's just like we're
all wiredly, wired differently to our different temptations.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
I guess I will.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Jump back into this conversation here in just a second.
The first Parker I saw you walk in when he
came in today, you brought some new shirts from EE Apparel.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
Right, what I've got, I've got three new shirts that
we just released on Friday of our there are variations
of our best selling shirts that we've literally ever done.
It's our three best selling faith shirts and we just
did each one in a new color. So we've got
this no Weapon Forged tea just in a clean royal blue.
(23:34):
For those who just like a little bit of color,
We've got our christ As King tea that I'm wearing
right now, the original and military green.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
We did one in black. A lot of people requested that.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
And then lastly our nine to nine four one tu
was originally in brown and we did a new color
of that in cream. So really excited to change up
the colors. And yeah, the response to the Faith stuff
has just been amazing.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
What sizes are those?
Speaker 1 (23:59):
These are medium on him for you?
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Thank you?
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Yes, you want to get your own sizes, go to
EUI dot com right now or right here. It's linked
in the podcast.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
So now the table set and you're not off the hook,
part er, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
That's why I did that. Let's go to the Bible.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I think probably a good place to start it would
be Romans twelve It's a good place to start for
a lot of things. When when Paul says, I appeal
to you there, for brothers, while the mercies of God,
to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and
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acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship. And he
goes on to say, famously, do not be conformed to
this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind.
That by testing you may discern what is the will
of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect. And
that's actually part of the prayer we prayed right for
this this podcast, And I actually didn't mean to do that,
but that we would present our bodies as a living
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sacrifice and what we do and what we say because
because he says, this is our spiritual worship?
Speaker 4 (25:17):
And then.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
How do we how do we view everything else in
our life with that lens? Like everything starts there? So
how how is whether it's caffeine or nicotine, or alcohol
or adderall or whatever it might be, or food, fast
food or sugar, or our money or or career or
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anything really anything or our gifts? How are we using
this to present our bodies as a living sacrifice, holy
and acceptable to God?
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Holy?
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Meaning set apart meaning different than the world, which he
goes on to say, don't be conformed in this world,
but be transformed by the renewal of your mind. The
transformed by the renewal of your mind is actually a
really good argument against any kind of numbness, against any
kind of drunkenness or anything that that numbs and blurs
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your mind as as a way to forget or to
step away from reality. I mean, that's not that's not
this conversation with nicotine, because nicotine is as a focuser
like adn'tall it's a focuser. It's it is to help
you think more clearly. But the argument against alcohol is
be it is, Hey, you're renewed by by the You're
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transformed by the renewal of your mind. Use your mind,
which it goes against any kind of Eastern religion that
says for step out of your mind, forget, don't think,
try not to think anything. You know, that's the Eastern meditation.
Christianity is the opposite. It's fill your mind, and we
go on to read it's fill your mind with with Christ. Ultimately,
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the things that are acceptable, things that are holy, things
are good. You don't know those things unless you're in
the Word and you're able to discern what the will
of God is for you. So that's how we start
First Corinthians six. It's interesting, I will not be master.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Yeah. I was gonna say. The next one you go
to is I will not be mastered by anything. Yeah. Perfect,
So that but like you said, drunkenness and all that,
it's like, okay, alcohol, drunkenness, like, okay, that's explicit in
the Bible, but nicotine is not. But you go to
first Corinthian six twelve, I will not be mastered by anything,
and then you ask your question, I'm mastered by this
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adderall am, I'm mastered by this nicotine exactly. Okay, Yeah,
that's so that's a different conversation.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Or filling the blank. Gambling sports, sports like you said,
yeah McDonald's. Yeah, that list goes on and on and on,
uh or or port.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
You know, it's a very relevant example. Exercise, workout, Yeah,
twenty five hards, sure sports. I think you said that
my favorite team.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Sure work being addicted to work, workaholics, anything that has
all that could be end of it, right.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Yes, well, and I think the best way to deterprete
that too, is to ask yourself those questions, can I
stop it? And and you know, do you are you
planning your day around using it or making it a
part of Okay, I can get to this point with
this much and get to the next point with this much.
And you know, like you said now that that what
used to do that for you is now the baseline.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Yeah, and you got to go above it trades.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
The clarity and the focus for dependence, right yep. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
It's it's interesting to hit first Grantons because we're we're
preaching through that right now in our church, and Marshall
actually just preached first Granthian six.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
The back half of it.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
I wanted to look at two at like romans.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
We can kind of live in.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Those two, those two chapters, but six sixteen. See if
I find out there is do you not know that
if you present yourselves to anyone as obedient slaves, you
are slaves to the one whom you obey, either of sin,
which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness.
We are slaves to whoever or whatever we obey.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Yeah. I was going to say that next to the
slave thing, it's like you become enslaved by these things,
and then what did Christ do? He came to set
us free. Yeah, Galatians five to one for freedom, Christ,
to set us free. Stand firm therefore, and do not
be conformed to get into the yoke of slavery. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
So that argument taller is it just crushes the idea
of I can't help myself, I can't help it. No,
you've been set free in Christ. You've been given the
ability Mom's eight thirteen to kill sin. And we haven't
arrived there yet with that. That nicotine is sin, but
the sinful behavior that comes from it, that being dominated
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by it, being motivated to do it.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
The Bible is not.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
The Bible is not explicit about consumption as much as
domination over you. Right, does this substance have dominion over you?
Not the consumption part, but does it have control over you?
Then you're in sin. Then having it or taking in.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
It is sin.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Ye.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
So Christ set believers free from enslavement to sin.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
That's what the Bible's saying.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
Theiralations, Yeah, Paul is saying Christ died to set you
free from the yoke or that like harness, like a donkey,
who's who's pulling a wagon. That harness was we were
slaves to our sin, whatever that's sin, and maybe and
then Christ dies to then lift that so that we're
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no longer enslaved to our sin.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
That's interesting.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
So to that, Parker, what's interesting about the you know,
the constant tension that the Bible presents us is that
we are set free and so flee. You know, you're
you're set free from it, so get away from it.
But both of those things exists. Being set free from
it doesn't mean you stay in it. And you know,
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but I thought you just set them set.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Free from it. Yeah, so get away from it.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Wait, no, that's a tension that runs through the entire
canon of the Bible. And so we mentioned this a
little bit last week. But check out Romans eight thirteen
that says, well, let me go to twelve. So, then, brothers,
we are debtors not to the flesh, to live according
to the flesh. Romans eight thirteen. For if you live
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according to the flesh, you will die. But if by
the spirit you put to death the deeds of the body,
you will live. Like, wait, aren't you writing this to Christians.
You're saying I'm gonna die if I if I stay
in sin, if I don't put it to death, you're
saying I'm going to die. Yeah, that's what That's what
he's saying. But aren't I secure in Christ?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yeah? Yeah, you're You're.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Secure in Christ. Both do it? You are this, so
now act like it, act on it. But Romans eight thirteen,
it's clear that he says, for if you live in Morthrus,
you will die. But if you buy the spirit, put
to death the deeds of the body, you will live.
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You can't do it by yourself. You buy the spirit,
you do it. You try to do it by yourself,
then you're stuck in legalism. There's a I notice in
my reading.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
The other day.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Let me let me show you guys another one. This
is crazy.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Man.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
It's two Timothy. He does the same thing he says
in what verses This is verse twelve, he says, I
am convinced that he talking about God is able to
guard until that day what has been entrusted to me.
And then verse fourteen, by the Holy Spirit who dwells
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within us, guard the good deposit and trusted to you.
So he's saying, I am confident that God is going
to guard what He's given me. So Timothy guarded guard yours.
You know, that's the tension. I'm confident God is going
to guard me get the deposit given me, namely the Gospel,
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my salvation, so I need to guard it. But the
key is the key is what he says, by the
Holy Spirit, the same thing he says in Romans eight thirteen,
by the Holy Spirit who dwells within us, guard the
good deposit and trusted to you. So this just destroys
the idea of cheap grace. It destroys the idea of
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I'm saved, like I could do. You know, I'm saved.
God has set freedom for freedom. Christ has set me free. Brother,
so I could just go and yeah, yeah, I do.
Send nobody's perfect. That's what people say, nobody's perfect.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
I don't think. I think that's the sign of not
a true believer, because if you're a true believer, you're
not you don't have that heart posture. You're like, Lord,
I want to obey the Lord. I want to know
the Lord. I want to know what the Lord says
I should be doing and do him.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
What's interesting is Christ set us free. I just can't
really get over that Galatians five to two. You set
us free from the yoke of slavery. We were slaves,
and he died so that we could be free. But
the perception of Christianity to the world is a horrible
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burden of rules and obedience, and that actually true freedom
is found just in doing your own thing outside of
God or religion or faith.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
You know, it's just completely backwards.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Exactly how does that end up for him? How does
that feel? How does it feel after that one night stand?
Feel good about it? You have a little guilt and
a little shame, a little doesn't feel that good? What's
what is that? Is it? Oh? Is it the sin?
Is it sin? That's why the Lord?
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Because the Lord loves me?
Speaker 3 (35:33):
You know.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
It's like it's just mind blowing. Yeah, every everything. Yeah,
give me all the money in the world, all the
women in the world. How'd that work out for Solomon?
David likes Sheba. Like once you understand that that he
loves you and he's he's laying out his commands and
because of his love for you, because he created you
and knitted you together and your mother's womb, like it
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changes everything everything we think we want. It's pretty much
the opposite of what we should be doing and what
the Lord has planned for us. Yeah, makes sense.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
So with this idea of of does it have dominion
over you? Does it have domination over you? Like you
were talking about Toller, we should ask ourselves the question
with anything nickotine, caffeine, we should ask the question, can
I quit at any time? Can I quit? Is this
a tool for me to focus?
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (36:30):
But does it have domination over me? Could I quit tomorrow?
If the answer is yes, okay, If the if the
answer is I need it it, I must do this
to feel normal, then it is not neutral and it
has powered over you.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
So once again, I'll say this a thousand times. We
should ask this question about anything anything over us. Can
I back away from it? Do I have to play
in my day around it? Am I extremely irritable, anxious,
distracted without it? Then that's a sign that you're a
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slave to it. And if you are a slave to it,
then flee from it. Because you been set free, you
have the power by the Holy Spirit as a Christian
just to flee from it. If you're not a Christian,
that's a different discussion. And we're going to get to
the Gospel after this, because this podcast is about reaching
the one and empowering the ninety nine to do the same.
But it's a Christian believing that you're forgiven by the
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blood of Christ. You've turned from your sin, you've repented
of it, and you're trusting him, not in your own
good works, but of you're trusting in Christ for what
He's done on the Cross to forgive you. If that's you,
you've been set free. And to that verse Galatians five
to one, stand firm therefore, and do not submit again
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to a yoke of slavery.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
That's what he says.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
You've been set free in Christ. Cool end the story. No,
so stand firm and don't submit again to the slavery.
Speaker 5 (38:03):
That you came from, which reminds me the Israelites having
been set free in the Old Testament when they are
slaves in Egypt. Moses leads them out, freeing them, and then.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
They kind of don't want to go back.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
Yes, And it's like pointing out the temptation in our
hearts of like we've been set free and part of
our flesh kind of wants to go back a little bit.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Is it a refuge? Are you seeking refuge and peace
from it, and that's not always a bad thing. We're
talking about ultimate refuge, ultimate peace.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
You know.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
The reason I frame it that way is because isaily
I put my seatbelt on because it gives me a
little peace.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
It's not ultimately say alcohol, man, Man, this was a
tough day at work right five o'clock somewhere. Man, this
drink is great. This hits the spot. The short term
piece that I feel from these couple of drinks is awesome.
Speaker 5 (39:07):
Yeah, I've heard it said, like, what's your pacifier if
you get really bad news in a stressful situation?
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Are what are you prone to desire?
Speaker 2 (39:16):
It is?
Speaker 5 (39:16):
It is z in? Is it a dip? Is it
a beer? What is it that you're using? Is it pornography?
What is it that you're using in that stressful situation?
Because each of us has our temptations to go to
anything other than God for help in that anxious moment.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
I think it's part of a revelation to you're talking
about the the yoke of slavery. Reason your flesh will
want to and calls back to some of that, even
though it is enslavement, is your flesh is not going
with you where your spirit is going, your spirit, your
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soul is leaving your body and going somewhere else. And
this is all your flesh has, and that's why it
cries out to you so much. This is all I have,
but it's not all you have, because your promise is
it's we've talked we I don't think on the mic,
but we've talked about before this whole time. Here is
a waiting room for an eternal time. We're all just
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all in the waiting room, doing our doing our thing.
Some getting that revelation. The ones who Christ is called
are are getting that revelation that your yeah, your flesh
stays here, but your your your spirit goes somewhere else.
I could I could see why in recognizing that it
is your flesh and not and not the Holy Spirit
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living in you calling for that old or longing for
that old enslavement because it's dying. Yes, so good not
going with you. You know.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Another aspect of this is is the reason I quit
dipping on stage is because I felt convicted that I
was putting a stumbling block in front of others. Yeah,
so that's another thing that goes with any of this.
And if I'm on stage and there's kids, for one,
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seeing this seeing in this case tobacco being glorified, which
is interesting because people have smoked cigarettes and cigars and pipes,
good Christian men, But that was long before we realized
this causes lung cancer that is actually really bad for you.
So it also goes with our own wisdom. You know,
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most theologians back in the old days, we're smoking pipes
as they were doing commentaries. But I recognize that this
is a stumbling walk on top of other people that
might say. Someone say, I have a brother that comes
in that's been a spiritual brother.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Not you guys.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
He's been struggling with nicotine and he's trying to quit,
and he's twenty two days out. You know, he's been
struggling with mental focus and he's he's off of it
and he's feeling way better, and he is if he's
is he gonna come to my house and I'm gonna
pop in some zen be like how you doing?
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Brother?
Speaker 3 (42:10):
Hang on and say no, that's a stumbling block. That's
a Romans fourteen stumbling block in front of my brother.
And if I don't have the ability to stop that,
then I have a problem.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
Right, Yeah, for sure, then you're being selfish.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Yeah, then I'm not loving my neighbor.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
Right.
Speaker 5 (42:30):
Is it physically possible to do zen and not be
dominated by it, to not need it? Do y'all know
anybody that's just like yeah, every once in, I'm just
throwing is in.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
I think he's an honest question.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
I think it's a personality. With me, I'm like very
addictive personality. I'm all in or all out. You guys
know that. I've said that multiple times. I'm not gonna
have one tequila shot, I'm gonna have ten. I'm not
gonna have one nick A teen pouch. I'm gonna have
the whole can. Like, that's just ingrained in me. It's hard.
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So I think it different people, different personalities. I think
it's possible, but I can. I mean, I have to
be very careful.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
But I remember when when Lincoln and I went to
the Texas A and M Mississippi State game and I
had a bunch of buddies from college and my buddy
Scott Rice was there and he had some were sitting
on the little balcony and I was like, can I
have one of those?
Speaker 2 (43:30):
He's like yeah, And.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
Then we sat there. I put through one end and
watched the football game and it was with my buddies,
and I remember being like, this is cool.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
You used to tell me. And I don't know if
you're still there, obviously, I guess you still do it,
Like I just want to enjoy it, like if I'm
deer hunting or if I'm if I'm going to shast fishing. Yeah,
in the summertime, and you know, and you can go
months without doing it, and then you'll do one, and
then you'll go months again. You'll go deer hunting, do
one maybe football game. Yeah, it's like you're saying that.
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I'm just like blank space, Like, wow, there is no
way I could ever do that.
Speaker 4 (44:02):
You can't do that. Yeh.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
That's why I had to quit drinking. Yeah, I haven't touched.
You can't social drink. There'll be three years sober this year.
Like it's just because I'm fig trying to figure that out.
I just had to stop. Yeah, just had to stop.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
No, your growth, Tyler is so encouraging. You've grown and
like you've you've come so far, and and that Romans
twelve really is you, like you you do not conform
to the world because you've been your your mind has been.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Transformed by the gospel. Yeah, it's a it's all the
Lord and not me. Yeah, it's all the Lord. Like
for everything you're saying right now, it's like, yeah, I'd
love to go home and play some Grand Theft Auto
and get drunk on some whiskey and eat some pizza
to night. But the Lord is like, now, that's just
not in the cards. What you just described is like
what you used to say is like your that was.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
Your ideal night play grant thee I mean, order a pizza, well,
the whole thing, and drink a whole couple.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Well, we used to always talk on the road like
we play.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
We'd play Tuesday night, Wednesday night, Thursday night, Friday night,
Saturday night. It's like, and you drink. You have like
again alcohol every show, it's new alcohol, new bottles, and
so it's like, yeah, I might have a few drinks.
And then we start asking the question like are we alcoholics?
We drink like five nights out of the week, like probably,
And then we'd go home for a couple of days
and be like, well, it's Sunday night or Monday night,
might as well drink tonight, might as well drink every
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other night and then my something in my stomach starts hurting,
like a sharp pain, you know, like that's probably from
all the whiskey, but I'm not going to go to the doctor.
And then when I stopped drinking, it's like it just
went away, whatever that pain was.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
Yeah, I think one of the things that we could
we could say here is that. And one of the
things we want to model with this podcast is bouncing
everything off the Bible. What does the Bible say? What
does the Bible say? What does the Bible say? How
should we think through this? Because we're being sanctified by
the word of God, and so we must be engaged
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with the Word of God, sit under faithful preaching of
the Word of God, to being being nourished by our
own personal time with the Lord around other believers, around
other believers, the stumbling block like yes that say, hey, brother,
I've noticed you've been doing this a lot lately. I
just I want to make sure it's not harmful for you.
We need brothers walking with us like that, they could
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hold us again. You remember when you used to say
you need to upgrade your five Have you ever thought
that that is that's actually biblical advice?
Speaker 4 (46:29):
Yeah, talk about the five people around you.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
You remember that old thing, the old the old idea
of upgrade your five.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
I don't know that. I didn't know that you become
the five people that you surround yourself, you become.
Speaker 4 (46:39):
I've heard that.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
It's like if if you're hanging out with five people
that work work out, you're going to become the next.
Like if you're hanging around five people that drink, you're
going to start drinking. Like if you were hanging around
five people that go to church and love the Lord,
probably going to become the fifth you know, like that
sort of thing that's proverbs. Yeah, so you need to
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constantly check your circle so.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
That what used to be true for self help and
in advancement in the industry is actually also true with
biblical advice. You need you need. You need godly brothers
around you. Sisters, you need godly sisters around you. Men,
you need godly brothers around you. Check your five right now.
Everybody that's listening right now, look at your hand and
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count five.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
Count to five.
Speaker 4 (47:28):
That's good.
Speaker 3 (47:29):
Who are they? You are going to become the common denominator.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
Of those five?
Speaker 3 (47:36):
Do you have Do you have a brother that loves
you enough to say, brother, you Okay, I've been praying
for you. I've noticed you've been having the six pack
after work?
Speaker 2 (47:47):
Is everything?
Speaker 3 (47:47):
Okay, I'm concerned about this, like it takes love. That's
not judgment, you know, that's not Hey, I don't judge.
That would be out of contact to say that. That's
love of a brother. Right, So we have we have
to have a five in fact one, two, three, four, five,
We've got six in this room. We got press and
sitting with us listening in we got Caden New Year.
Speaker 4 (48:08):
Well but that's right, that's it's you and five who
you're five? Yeah, so it's six people.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3 (48:15):
That's that's a that's a good example. Yeah, another plug
for a healthy local church. Must have a healthy local church.
That's the easiest way to upgrade.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
You're five.
Speaker 4 (48:25):
Do you have a you have a good book for
us this week? Yes?
Speaker 3 (48:29):
Yeah, last week we did that. We're gonna sign this
one because we didn't have it. But I've got a
new copy now I had a fresh copy.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
Well, giveaway for this week is called.
Speaker 3 (48:39):
What is a Healthy Church?
Speaker 4 (48:42):
That's a great book and it's quick and it's insightful.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (48:48):
So if you're wating to upgrade your five and you're like, well,
I'm not part of a local church, or maybe I'm
part of local church, but I'm not really sure if
it's healthy. There's a difference between a false church and
a gospel preaching church church. False churches, no, there's no consideration.
But the gospel preaching churches. You could have an unhealthy
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gospel preaching church. You know they have to preach the gospel.
They preached that Jesus died for your sins. It's unhealthy
in so many other ways. And then there's a healthy
gospel preaching church. If you want to upgrade your five
and you're wondering about your church, or you don't have
a church, here's the book giveaway for you. I'm going
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not about only getting it to the person that wins
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How you got in a chapter two chapters in? You've
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Speaker 4 (50:03):
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Speaker 2 (50:06):
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Speaker 3 (50:08):
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Speaker 4 (50:15):
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Speaker 3 (51:08):
Wrap up our topic here. Scripture does not explicitly reject
or or forbid nicotine. It does not, but we need
we must be wise. Freedom does not mean indifference. Grace
does not mean self deception. That's what we named the
title of this podcast. How should Christians feel about nicotine?
Not should Christians use nicotine? That would be legalism. But
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we must think through these things as brothers. Parker, can
you give us a gospel to end this episode?
Speaker 1 (51:37):
A gospel? Yeah, Gospel means good news. The primary message
of Christianity is not be a better person. It's not
for all these rules.
Speaker 5 (51:46):
It's not don't drink or smoke or do anything bad.
The message of Christianity is that God created human beings
to love him and serve him and obey Him for eternity,
but that man kind did not do that, that man
has turned away from God and has worshiped and served
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God's creation over him. That we're not naturally good, that
we don't have a little bit of good deep deep
deep down in us, that were not born morally neutral,
but that there's no one good on planet Earth, that
we've all turned from God, and that our hearts are
desperately wicked and we're sick and actually dead in our sins.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
And because God is a good judge who.
Speaker 5 (52:29):
Does not let the guilty go unpunished, just like a
good judge in your local city wouldn't let a guilty
criminal go unpunished. So God on Judgment Day is going
to rightly and justly judge sinners.
Speaker 1 (52:42):
And based on our sins.
Speaker 5 (52:44):
The Bible says that the wages of our sin is death,
and that we deserve good, just, eternal condemnation for our
sins and hell. But God, not desiring that anyone would perish,
sent his son Jesus Christ, who did obey the law perfectly,
who lived the perfect life that we were supposed to live.
And on the cross he took on the penalty for
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our sins, substituting himself in our place, taking on the
wrath of God. And he died, and three days later
he rose from the grave, showing that Jesus was the Christ,
the Messiah, he was the son of God. And now
he sits at the right hand of God, calling all
of us to repent or turn from our sins, to
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trust his sacrifice on the cross alone for our salvation,
so that on Judgment Day, God says why should I
let you into heaven. It's not because I tried my best.
It's well because Christ lived the life that I was
supposed to live, and I recognized my sin and I
trusted in him, and you gave me a new heart
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that then wanted to obey and.
Speaker 1 (53:52):
Serve you because of your grace, not because of anything
that I did.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
In that Gospel.
Speaker 3 (53:58):
That good news that Parker just said to that, Paul
writes in Romans One, for I am not ashamed.
Speaker 2 (54:04):
Of the Gospel what Parker just said.
Speaker 3 (54:06):
For it is what Parker just said. It is the
power of God for salvation to everyone who believes. To
the jew first and also to the Greek. For in
it what Parker said, the righteousness of God is revealed
from faith. For faith, as it is written, the righteous
shall live by faith. The Gospel is the power of
God for salvation. It is what converts unbelievers to believers.
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It's what brings people from death to life and from
darkness to light. That's how we'll end the episode. Love
you guys, See you next Monday.
Speaker 4 (54:35):
Yegee.
I'm Granger, I'm the an Man, I'm Tyler, I'm Parker.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
What's up, everybody?
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Welcome to the ninety nine for one podcast, where our
goal is to seek the one and equip the ninety
nine to do the same. It's gonna be a good
show today episode two.
Speaker 4 (00:12):
Yeah, back for episode two. Today we're gonna be talking
about how should Christians feel about nicotine? This actually started
as a conversation off Mike's last week. It just naturally
started for like, Hey, that would be a good idea,
let's talk about that. So we are here this week.
Before we do, thank you for watching, listening, commenting everything
that you did on episode number one. Fantastic first episode
(00:35):
and it seems like a lot of you guys liked
it too. Kendall want to send a shout out to you.
I somehow stumbled into your world. I think talking to Granger,
I do not listen to country music. In fact, I
kind of dislike it. In fact, I'm not a fan
of most of the things that would probably make up
your typical viewer or listener. Despite all of this, I've
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been greatly encouraged by your journey and have been inspired.
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
So I like it.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Ricky Boyd said, I'm excited about this new podcast. I
still hope you stay relatable to the average guy you
always have been. Remember the passes. It says, now the
tax collectors and sinners are all gathered around to hear
Jesus excited about the new chapter and God is key,
no doubt. But some talk about trucks and four wheel
drives and just guy stuff mixed in keeps it relatable
(01:25):
and brings some new viewers. I know you aren't trying
to reach big volumes of people, but it's not a
bad thing if you do. Love your podcast. I love
the approach of like talking to a buddy in the cab.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Of a pickup truck.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
I like that too. Cindy said, I absolutely love this
new podcast. I followed your podcast journey since it started
in your bus. Love seeing how God has changed your
life and the lives of your brothers.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
My request to these comments, thank you all y'all for
these comments. My request is put where you're from?
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Yes, absolutely, I'd love to know where you're listening or
watching from. That would be really cool.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I would like to know for the next episode where
the furthest person is from us, right now maybe maybe Kintaro.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
And I was just about to say soon as soon
as kin starts h if he's watching, if he comments.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
You'd better be watching, Yeah, Kintaro. Just incredible, incredible story
from Ye Nation. I haven't even told you this, amen,
but as the Lord is working in his heart and
Cantaro started for everybody, just to just a backstory. I mean,
most of us know him, but he was just a
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fan of the music. He came, I believe twice to
hear me play in the second time he came was no, no, yeah, yeah,
it came to us. The first time was our farewell tour.
I believe that was the first time he came. And
he came to Billy Bob's and so saw our final show.
So we met him. Came from Japan. It's a big
deal to have a you know, a guy from Japan
that's a fan. So we and he was a big
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he's been a big fan of the apparel company Ye Ye.
So then he comes again for Ye Fast last year
and he told me something. He said, Hey, man, you
you mentioned at Billy Bob's that you asked the crowd,
what would anyone follow you to the next stage? And
he goes, I don't really know what that next stage is.
(03:20):
You're talking about the God and stuff, but I'm interested
in knowing how to follow you there. And so we
sat down in the office of ye ye uh you
know eeee fast is going on outside. He came a
little bit early. We had this long conversation. I told
him the Gospel told him the good News of Jesus,
which which Barker's going to tell us here at the
end of this episode. And he was like, I'm I
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don't know what to think of all this, but I'm
interested in hearing more. So we continued to talk, continue
to have these conversations, and I got him started on
reading Matthew, the Book of Matthew, and then we would
talk every day through reading the Book of Matthew, and
he would have questions and we would have these, you know,
just in depth discussions about Matthew. And then he went
(04:06):
back home to Japan and I just said, Hey, all
I'm asking to do is just show up, just keep
reading every day and message. I'll message you every day.
We won't skip a day, We'll just keep talking. So
it was like I'd have to talk to him Tataro.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
It was like.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Some somewhere in I think it was towards the end
of Matthew he became aware of his sin and a
need for Christ and he was converted.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
He knew.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
He even said, I screenshoted the message from a long
time ago about my heart aches for my sin, for
what I've done to God, and I ask Lord Jesus
to save me. It was like the most beautiful unscripted
conversion words. And I just cried when I read that,
and I said, brother, you here a Christian. What you're
(04:57):
saying is the Lord has saved you. And he couldn't
quite articulate what it all meant, but all he knew
was he wanted more, and he kept reading, kept reading,
kept reading.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
He advanced.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Then we went on a search for a church. Japan
is a dark country. I just talked to him this
morning reminding him it's a dark country and won a
unique opportunity for a Christian to be in a dark country.
And we went through a few different churches, but we
found one close to close enough to him. In Tokyo
is huge. You could drive for two hours just on
the other side of the city. Finds a church. He
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gets involved with the church, becomes really really in with
the members there, the pastor there. They baptized him. Since
me the video of his baptism. This is like the
timelines going by. Everyone's pouring into them. He's starting to
love them. Things are changing at work. He goes from
kind of being angry and disgruntled a lot of times
(05:50):
to like now, he starts becoming kind and wanting to
wanting to show the love of Christ to people. His
just anxiety levels going down. The pastor everyone's seeing this.
He starts eating lunches and dinners with gathering with the members.
And just a few days ago he reached out to
me and said the pastor is now ready to start
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pastoral training with him.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
No way, are you serious. That's incredib I was gonna say.
He's starting to provide commentary on his readings every day
on social media. He'll he'll give the scripture and he'll
provide commentary on it.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
He has not skipped the day. That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Let me let me read you what he said today
this morning. And I know I can read this because
we talk every day. But he said, he's talking about
this podcast. I love the podcast. My new desire is
to reach the one out of a bunch and bring
the light by the Lord to the one each day.
He said, Today I saw my favorite Christian customer friend.
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She came in and we had some conversations. She mentioned
that her son is influenced by my faith, talking about
himself as well, and he wants to hang out with
me at some point, and I have to already have
some amazing ideas. I'm willing to invite him to my
church as well. I wanted to sit down and talk
about the Gospel and read together. So we're going to
start in Matthew one man.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Incredible. I love that that's the one that was reached.
Who's now reaching another one?
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Now going to start reading. The process begins again. Yep,
as the Lord multiplies and it begins. Sorry, I got
way off on a tangent.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
That was good. That was really good. We give away
of a book, first book last week that has been picked.
So if check your DMS or whatever, Cayden's taking care
of that. We'll have another book giveaway at the end
of this episode and we'll tell you what to comment
with in order to be in that writing coming up
a little bit later on. But first, our topic today,
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how should Christians feel about nicotine. So how did this
this conversation started because we were talking about do we
First I want to say that any any kind of
health conversation in this is just about personal journeys. It
has nothing to do with actual medical advice. So no
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one take it as that if there is any in here.
But we started with and also name brands. Should we
bring that up because it's kind of okay, well, because
we're talking, so we don't give medical advice, but we
could occasionally drop name brands and not you know, not
be sponsored. It's Zen? Is that is that one of them?
Is that a big one? Yeah, that's where the conversation
started last week, like, oh this this there's actually I
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think I've heard of health benefits from nicotine. And the
first thing people think is, no way, smoking is terrible.
I'm not talking about smoking. I'm talking about figuring out.
What I was thinking then was figuring out your own
journey about the actual elements of things that are now.
Last year I had a stroke, so I was you know,
(08:54):
I've been processing through every kind of almost element that
you put into your to your it into your body
now and thinking about how it affects from top of
your head to the bottom of your feet, how it
affects that health journey. And I've read stuff about nicotine
in super small doses that can be beneficial to some people.
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Do I say that, I say that correctly.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
This podcast is not about giving health advice. No, that's
a disclaimer.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Yeah, that's yeah, that's what I said at the very beginning. Continue, yes,
and that's but that's what piqued my interest when I
heard you guys talking about.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
So what's the question.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
How Christians feel about that?
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Well, don't ask me that because I'm struggling with it
right now.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Are you for me?
Speaker 3 (09:44):
That actually makes you a perfect person to speak to it,
because you're a Christian that uses nicotine.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
It's perfect. Yeah. Yeah, you know how this started for me.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Was by the way, this is not an intervention for
Tyler either.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
No. No, I am the guy.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I am the guy that has trademark put a good
dip in.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
I don't know trademark. I wake up? Did you or
did Earl? I'm confused now because I mean here, let's
I'm a country boy.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
It's twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
I'm back picking college football games based on who's more
countryfied this.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
A little bit.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
We like to call, dip them and pick them.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Yeah, both y'alls four right are we'll talk?
Speaker 3 (10:33):
So yeah, there's endless stories about Earl Dibbles Junior and nicotine.
So that that's why I think, I think this is
a good group to talk about this. And you can't
find a lot you can't find a lot on the
Internet of of conversations like this that don't overlap into
legalism sure, or abusing cheap grace. So what's the conversation
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right in the middle of legalism and cheap grace?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Where do we fall?
Speaker 3 (11:01):
How should Christians feel about nicotine?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
What would you say your struggle is?
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, this all started for me in the touring days
in the music business, when we're on the road, when
we're on the buses and you're around your boys and
the band and the crew. There's alcohol at every single show,
whatever you want. There's all kinds of weed, whatever you want.
And for me, at some point, nicotine became the lesser
(11:31):
of the three evils. I was like, man drinking just
for horrible the next day, Like I eat a ton
of pizza after the show if I'm trump, sorry mom,
but uh sorry mom? Yeah. And then weed. I was
never a big weed, smoker, but it's just always around.
So it's like, Okay, which one of these am I
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going to pick? Man, just being completely sober is just
gonna be real. That's hard on the road. And when
I mean what I mean completely sober, I'm not just
talking about like drugs or alcohol or weed. I'm talking
about like caffeine, I was gonna say, makes you know, Yeah, caffeine, nicotine,
like whatever masters you, whatever controls you. Whatever.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
You wake up every day four Yeah, no, we should
do four every morning. We get up with Chris.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Well, you guys did it more than me that stuff, like, yeah,
it's a it's an.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
We would get up on the road, yeah, you know,
random town in Illinois, and we would get a cup
of coffee and then her face starts itch in and
then for a cup of Sea four, a scoop of
sea four after your coffee, Yeah, and put in water.
Drinking the coffee while the uber or the runner is
coming to take us to the gym. Then by the
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time you finish the coffee, you start sipping the Sea four.
By the time you get to the gym, your face
is just burnt, it's about to burn off. You're you're
so you're you're you're so up with this C four stuff.
I eventually stopped that. I would actually say, that's probably
more dangerous than nicotine. Way I feel because that stuff,
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I started feeling really dizzy a lot, yeah, during the day,
and I could attribute.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
That, Yeah, that's the problem with n There's so many
layers to it. Somebody could be like, I don't do
any of that stuff. Well it could be food, could
be pizza, could be ice cream, whatever. There's so many layers.
But we're just talking about this. But yeah, that's I
think that's the danger. But with nicotine, because that's that's
my thought process too, It's like, uh, this is probably
way more dangerous than nicotine C four because my I'm
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dizzy or I get up, I head rush or my
face is like there's physical effects, like bad effects, negative effects.
With nicotine, there's no bad effects. It's all good. It
makes you focus, lock in, you know, sharper thinking, critical thinking.
So that's my problem is like tell me something like
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with the dip right with errodibbles, it's like, okay, this
causes cancer, mouth cancer, this is bad, don't do it. Okay, done,
I won't do it. Addictions is a negative. The addiction
is a negative, so that now we go we go
farther into the addiction, like, Okay, now now I'm struggling
with Am I doing this too to walk in and
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focus and work on what I need to work on?
Or am I doing this because I'm bored because I'm addicted,
because I need it, because I need to function, because
I need to wake up, because I and I'm doing
it throughout the day. And you're building a great outline
for this and then and then we'll use the Bible
to go through everything you just said. And then it's
deluding the effects of what the nickeodteam does just because
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I'm using so much of it that my body is
what's the word blunt, like, it's not it's not doing anything.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
It's a new base for you. You have to go
that or above to feel any of what you felt before.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah, And I don't, to be honest with you, I
don't feel anything. It's just addiction, you know. So Parker,
what can you what can you speak? I don't think
you ever really got into the zin packets or the.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
I put us in in one time and I couldn't
even stand up.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
I was so buzz and I was.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Like six or three. And how scary is that they
think it was? You try for the first time and
you can't stand up. I'm just popping them. That's doing.
My body is just used to it now, so it's like,
this is what's happening to my body?
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Yeah, So in college I had guys try to like
coach me through dipping, but I just could never keep
it in my lip.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
It would all just always just like get everywhere, and
I threw up. I tried like three times, and I
threw up every time, and.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
So I just was I was kept away from nicotine
un despite trying.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
People would train other people to do something that's actually
bad for you.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Bad for your so you can fit in hang out.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
I just thought it has something to do. I don't know,
and then uh, I would try.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
I tried the chaw or whatever like Earl Dibbles did,
but it just always like.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Tastes bad and kind of hurt my throat and it
was kind of gross.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
And so it's interesting because I didn't really either. I
didn't really dip. I have a story in high school
of like doing that and throw I threw up the
very first time. I remember. It was in my buddy
Peter's white Jetta threw up on the floor floorboard of
his car where it was. I was probably sixteen seven,
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sixteen years old, so that that made me not want
to try it for a long time. But then college
kind of like Parker saying in the cork Adets at
Texas A and M, it's very normal to have a
chaw in at all times, which is probably what eventually
a few years later influenced Earl Dibbles Junior and two
that he has to have a chaw in his in
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his jaw.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
And then I wasn't. I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
I didn't and dip it all when we first started
filming that, and so we would we would remember, we'd
have to take it out real quick. There's actually scenes
of those very first videos when Earl's like ripping it
out because it's like making me buzzed so fast of
pointing out.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
On you think you did like the whole package. Well
it started.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
I started growing a tolerance, but and I wasn't even
when Earl was on the stage, like at the very
beginning that I didn't. I didn't have a tolerance for it.
So I would get really buzzed after a show and
not feel good. But then that that started going away,
and then it turned into hey, there, me and Chris,
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it's that there's earls. Because we would get on the rider.
We would get Levi Garrett or Redman on the rider.
So everywhere we went, we show up, there's a fresh
bag of Levi Garrett or Redman for the show that night,
because Earl's going to use the whole thing. But so
sometimes people from the audience would throw them up, like
a brand new bag, so we'd get that. So they
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started collecting on the bus. So at some point during
the day, in the middle of the day, Chris and I,
after we had our c four and our coffee and
we worked out and we had catering, and now we're
trying to focus and do some work, We're like, hey,
hand me that brand new bag of Levi Garrett. And
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and then we it became a daytime thing, and it
became a production meeting thing, and then it just became
until we realized, le Vi Garrett, for one, it's full
of maple syrup.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Or something like that.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
It's full of sugar, it's full of sugar molasses.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Does it also have whiskey? Was it soaked and whiskey.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
It's like literally syrup. So if you have it in
your teeth for too long, you're just having straight sugar
on your teeth.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
So there's that.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
But anyway, so then that turned into probably Copenhagen. Then
that turned into Zen. It was actually Jimmy Allen that
showed me Zin.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
He's like, man, you got you can go mess up
your teeth with that stuff. You gotta try this. It
doesn't hurt your teeth at all. So that's what started in.
And then that's me and you Todler about the same time.
And then Chris would just and for those who don't
wig off the deep end, I mean I was probably
on the bus and saw that thanks to you, and
Chris was like, well, might as well do that. The
reason I say it, and then we want to get
back to your part because you have other you have
(19:28):
other demons when you talk about but but the reason
I say, I'm trying to set the table here that
we are qualified to have this discussion. Right, That's what
I'm doing. That's what I'm trying to do. All right,
tell us about your the adderall thing, same same vein.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Well, if I'm a listener, right now, I'm like, just
talk about the nicotine. That's what I came here for.
I can talk about this briefly. I don't know how
helpful it's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Well, the only reason I say is because I don't
want to leave you out because you've never touched nicotine.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Yeah, I'm just like more disciplined than you.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Guys.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
My advice has always been I you know, I used
to have buddies in college that would uh.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I can't remember the name of the drug.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
It's like.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Bars or whatever is what they call it, and it's uh,
it just like makes it like just numbs everything and
you basically immediately go like eight beers deep trying to
just numb the world out and get really really buzzed.
And that was never really appealing. This is all before
I was saved. This is just me in college.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
And was it because of dad or before that? What
when dad died?
Speaker 4 (20:40):
What about it?
Speaker 2 (20:41):
When did you start doing that? I don't really know
the story either. I don't either. In all you just
the eight beers deep, like whatever you did, I don't
even know.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
No, I'm just saying I'm not I'm not saying. I'm
just saying.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
In college I was around guys who would do drugs
in order to numb out the world, and then you'd
go and talk to at parties and stuff and there'd
just be nobody home. And that's like what they like
to do, Like we're going to the bars. Time to
take our do the bars or whatever drugs it was,
and then let's just like not, I don't want to
remember anything, and like it's just that guy, you know.
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And I was always just like I don't I don't
want to be that guy. I don't hate my life
that much. To not that they hated their lives, that's
just like.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
What they enjoyed to do.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
And I always like to like be clear and like
more energized and like more focused and more social, and
so I always I would rather just like get an
energy drink, like when we'd go out to the bars
or whatever, and like I enjoyed that, and so like
the highest level of that of feeling energized, I guess
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would be cocaine. But I never did cocaine, but would
was like from a legal perspective, would be adderall. And
but that wasn't until I was in my mid twenties
and I had a buddy who showed me. I can't
remember the name of it was like an equivalent of adderall. Uh,
and it was like to work because you know, I
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was super productive. I like to work really hard and uh.
And so I like took one of those pills and
like what like had the most productive day of work
in my life, and I was like, this is amazing.
It was like a right around the time when what's
the movie, uh, Wolfule Wall Street, No, not Wolf Limitless Limitless? Yeah,
Limitless came out and well we all know how that
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movie ends or like it ends up being really bad
for him. But anyway, Yeah, so I ended up getting
an adderall prescription and called my doctor said like I
couldn't focus or whatever, just to get an aderall prescription.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
And so took that pretty often at work or when
we'd go out to bars or whatever. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
So that's that's what I preferred naturally in my flesh
over nicotine, which is no better. It's just like we're
all wiredly, wired differently to our different temptations.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
I guess I will.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Jump back into this conversation here in just a second.
The first Parker I saw you walk in when he
came in today, you brought some new shirts from EE Apparel.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
Right, what I've got, I've got three new shirts that
we just released on Friday of our there are variations
of our best selling shirts that we've literally ever done.
It's our three best selling faith shirts and we just
did each one in a new color. So we've got
this no Weapon Forged tea just in a clean royal blue.
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For those who just like a little bit of color,
We've got our christ As King tea that I'm wearing
right now, the original and military green.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
We did one in black. A lot of people requested that.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
And then lastly our nine to nine four one tu
was originally in brown and we did a new color
of that in cream. So really excited to change up
the colors. And yeah, the response to the Faith stuff
has just been amazing.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
What sizes are those?
Speaker 1 (23:59):
These are medium on him for you?
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Thank you?
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Yes, you want to get your own sizes, go to
EUI dot com right now or right here. It's linked
in the podcast.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
So now the table set and you're not off the hook,
part er, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
That's why I did that. Let's go to the Bible.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I think probably a good place to start it would
be Romans twelve It's a good place to start for
a lot of things. When when Paul says, I appeal
to you there, for brothers, while the mercies of God,
to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and
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acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship. And he
goes on to say, famously, do not be conformed to
this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind.
That by testing you may discern what is the will
of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect. And
that's actually part of the prayer we prayed right for
this this podcast, And I actually didn't mean to do that,
but that we would present our bodies as a living
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sacrifice and what we do and what we say because
because he says, this is our spiritual worship?
Speaker 4 (25:17):
And then.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
How do we how do we view everything else in
our life with that lens? Like everything starts there? So
how how is whether it's caffeine or nicotine, or alcohol
or adderall or whatever it might be, or food, fast
food or sugar, or our money or or career or
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anything really anything or our gifts? How are we using
this to present our bodies as a living sacrifice, holy
and acceptable to God?
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Holy?
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Meaning set apart meaning different than the world, which he
goes on to say, don't be conformed in this world,
but be transformed by the renewal of your mind. The
transformed by the renewal of your mind is actually a
really good argument against any kind of numbness, against any
kind of drunkenness or anything that that numbs and blurs
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your mind as as a way to forget or to
step away from reality. I mean, that's not that's not
this conversation with nicotine, because nicotine is as a focuser
like adn'tall it's a focuser. It's it is to help
you think more clearly. But the argument against alcohol is
be it is, Hey, you're renewed by by the You're
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transformed by the renewal of your mind. Use your mind,
which it goes against any kind of Eastern religion that
says for step out of your mind, forget, don't think,
try not to think anything. You know, that's the Eastern meditation.
Christianity is the opposite. It's fill your mind, and we
go on to read it's fill your mind with with Christ. Ultimately,
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the things that are acceptable, things that are holy, things
are good. You don't know those things unless you're in
the Word and you're able to discern what the will
of God is for you. So that's how we start
First Corinthians six. It's interesting, I will not be master.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Yeah. I was gonna say. The next one you go
to is I will not be mastered by anything. Yeah. Perfect,
So that but like you said, drunkenness and all that,
it's like, okay, alcohol, drunkenness, like, okay, that's explicit in
the Bible, but nicotine is not. But you go to
first Corinthian six twelve, I will not be mastered by anything,
and then you ask your question, I'm mastered by this
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adderall am, I'm mastered by this nicotine exactly. Okay, Yeah,
that's so that's a different conversation.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Or filling the blank. Gambling sports, sports like you said,
yeah McDonald's. Yeah, that list goes on and on and on,
uh or or port.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
You know, it's a very relevant example. Exercise, workout, Yeah,
twenty five hards, sure sports. I think you said that
my favorite team.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Sure work being addicted to work, workaholics, anything that has
all that could be end of it, right.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Yes, well, and I think the best way to deterprete
that too, is to ask yourself those questions, can I
stop it? And and you know, do you are you
planning your day around using it or making it a
part of Okay, I can get to this point with
this much and get to the next point with this much.
And you know, like you said now that that what
used to do that for you is now the baseline.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Yeah, and you got to go above it trades.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
The clarity and the focus for dependence, right yep. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
It's it's interesting to hit first Grantons because we're we're
preaching through that right now in our church, and Marshall
actually just preached first Granthian six.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
The back half of it.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
I wanted to look at two at like romans.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
We can kind of live in.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Those two, those two chapters, but six sixteen. See if
I find out there is do you not know that
if you present yourselves to anyone as obedient slaves, you
are slaves to the one whom you obey, either of sin,
which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness.
We are slaves to whoever or whatever we obey.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Yeah. I was going to say that next to the
slave thing, it's like you become enslaved by these things,
and then what did Christ do? He came to set
us free. Yeah, Galatians five to one for freedom, Christ,
to set us free. Stand firm therefore, and do not
be conformed to get into the yoke of slavery. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
So that argument taller is it just crushes the idea
of I can't help myself, I can't help it. No,
you've been set free in Christ. You've been given the
ability Mom's eight thirteen to kill sin. And we haven't
arrived there yet with that. That nicotine is sin, but
the sinful behavior that comes from it, that being dominated
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by it, being motivated to do it.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
The Bible is not.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
The Bible is not explicit about consumption as much as
domination over you. Right, does this substance have dominion over you?
Not the consumption part, but does it have control over you?
Then you're in sin. Then having it or taking in.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
It is sin.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Ye.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
So Christ set believers free from enslavement to sin.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
That's what the Bible's saying.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
Theiralations, Yeah, Paul is saying Christ died to set you
free from the yoke or that like harness, like a donkey,
who's who's pulling a wagon. That harness was we were
slaves to our sin, whatever that's sin, and maybe and
then Christ dies to then lift that so that we're
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no longer enslaved to our sin.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
That's interesting.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
So to that, Parker, what's interesting about the you know,
the constant tension that the Bible presents us is that
we are set free and so flee. You know, you're
you're set free from it, so get away from it.
But both of those things exists. Being set free from
it doesn't mean you stay in it. And you know,
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but I thought you just set them set.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Free from it. Yeah, so get away from it.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Wait, no, that's a tension that runs through the entire
canon of the Bible. And so we mentioned this a
little bit last week. But check out Romans eight thirteen
that says, well, let me go to twelve. So, then, brothers,
we are debtors not to the flesh, to live according
to the flesh. Romans eight thirteen. For if you live
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according to the flesh, you will die. But if by
the spirit you put to death the deeds of the body,
you will live. Like, wait, aren't you writing this to Christians.
You're saying I'm gonna die if I if I stay
in sin, if I don't put it to death, you're
saying I'm going to die. Yeah, that's what That's what
he's saying. But aren't I secure in Christ?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yeah? Yeah, you're You're.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Secure in Christ. Both do it? You are this, so
now act like it, act on it. But Romans eight thirteen,
it's clear that he says, for if you live in Morthrus,
you will die. But if you buy the spirit, put
to death the deeds of the body, you will live.
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You can't do it by yourself. You buy the spirit,
you do it. You try to do it by yourself,
then you're stuck in legalism. There's a I notice in
my reading.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
The other day.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Let me let me show you guys another one. This
is crazy.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Man.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
It's two Timothy. He does the same thing he says
in what verses This is verse twelve, he says, I
am convinced that he talking about God is able to
guard until that day what has been entrusted to me.
And then verse fourteen, by the Holy Spirit who dwells
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within us, guard the good deposit and trusted to you.
So he's saying, I am confident that God is going
to guard what He's given me. So Timothy guarded guard yours.
You know, that's the tension. I'm confident God is going
to guard me get the deposit given me, namely the Gospel,
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my salvation, so I need to guard it. But the
key is the key is what he says, by the
Holy Spirit, the same thing he says in Romans eight thirteen,
by the Holy Spirit who dwells within us, guard the
good deposit and trusted to you. So this just destroys
the idea of cheap grace. It destroys the idea of
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I'm saved, like I could do. You know, I'm saved.
God has set freedom for freedom. Christ has set me free. Brother,
so I could just go and yeah, yeah, I do.
Send nobody's perfect. That's what people say, nobody's perfect.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
I don't think. I think that's the sign of not
a true believer, because if you're a true believer, you're
not you don't have that heart posture. You're like, Lord,
I want to obey the Lord. I want to know
the Lord. I want to know what the Lord says
I should be doing and do him.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
What's interesting is Christ set us free. I just can't
really get over that Galatians five to two. You set
us free from the yoke of slavery. We were slaves,
and he died so that we could be free. But
the perception of Christianity to the world is a horrible
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burden of rules and obedience, and that actually true freedom
is found just in doing your own thing outside of
God or religion or faith.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
You know, it's just completely backwards.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Exactly how does that end up for him? How does
that feel? How does it feel after that one night stand?
Feel good about it? You have a little guilt and
a little shame, a little doesn't feel that good? What's
what is that? Is it? Oh? Is it the sin?
Is it sin? That's why the Lord?
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Because the Lord loves me?
Speaker 3 (35:33):
You know.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
It's like it's just mind blowing. Yeah, every everything. Yeah,
give me all the money in the world, all the
women in the world. How'd that work out for Solomon?
David likes Sheba. Like once you understand that that he
loves you and he's he's laying out his commands and
because of his love for you, because he created you
and knitted you together and your mother's womb, like it
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changes everything everything we think we want. It's pretty much
the opposite of what we should be doing and what
the Lord has planned for us. Yeah, makes sense.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
So with this idea of of does it have dominion
over you? Does it have domination over you? Like you
were talking about Toller, we should ask ourselves the question
with anything nickotine, caffeine, we should ask the question, can
I quit at any time? Can I quit? Is this
a tool for me to focus?
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (36:30):
But does it have domination over me? Could I quit tomorrow?
If the answer is yes, okay, If the if the
answer is I need it it, I must do this
to feel normal, then it is not neutral and it
has powered over you.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
So once again, I'll say this a thousand times. We
should ask this question about anything anything over us. Can
I back away from it? Do I have to play
in my day around it? Am I extremely irritable, anxious,
distracted without it? Then that's a sign that you're a
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slave to it. And if you are a slave to it,
then flee from it. Because you been set free, you
have the power by the Holy Spirit as a Christian
just to flee from it. If you're not a Christian,
that's a different discussion. And we're going to get to
the Gospel after this, because this podcast is about reaching
the one and empowering the ninety nine to do the same.
But it's a Christian believing that you're forgiven by the
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blood of Christ. You've turned from your sin, you've repented
of it, and you're trusting him, not in your own
good works, but of you're trusting in Christ for what
He's done on the Cross to forgive you. If that's you,
you've been set free. And to that verse Galatians five
to one, stand firm therefore, and do not submit again
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to a yoke of slavery.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
That's what he says.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
You've been set free in Christ. Cool end the story. No,
so stand firm and don't submit again to the slavery.
Speaker 5 (38:03):
That you came from, which reminds me the Israelites having
been set free in the Old Testament when they are
slaves in Egypt. Moses leads them out, freeing them, and then.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
They kind of don't want to go back.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
Yes, And it's like pointing out the temptation in our
hearts of like we've been set free and part of
our flesh kind of wants to go back a little bit.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Is it a refuge? Are you seeking refuge and peace
from it, and that's not always a bad thing. We're
talking about ultimate refuge, ultimate peace.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
You know.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
The reason I frame it that way is because isaily
I put my seatbelt on because it gives me a
little peace.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
It's not ultimately say alcohol, man, Man, this was a
tough day at work right five o'clock somewhere. Man, this
drink is great. This hits the spot. The short term
piece that I feel from these couple of drinks is awesome.
Speaker 5 (39:07):
Yeah, I've heard it said, like, what's your pacifier if
you get really bad news in a stressful situation?
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Are what are you prone to desire?
Speaker 2 (39:16):
It is?
Speaker 5 (39:16):
It is z in? Is it a dip? Is it
a beer? What is it that you're using? Is it pornography?
What is it that you're using in that stressful situation?
Because each of us has our temptations to go to
anything other than God for help in that anxious moment.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
I think it's part of a revelation to you're talking
about the the yoke of slavery. Reason your flesh will
want to and calls back to some of that, even
though it is enslavement, is your flesh is not going
with you where your spirit is going, your spirit, your
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soul is leaving your body and going somewhere else. And
this is all your flesh has, and that's why it
cries out to you so much. This is all I have,
but it's not all you have, because your promise is
it's we've talked we I don't think on the mic,
but we've talked about before this whole time. Here is
a waiting room for an eternal time. We're all just
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all in the waiting room, doing our doing our thing.
Some getting that revelation. The ones who Christ is called
are are getting that revelation that your yeah, your flesh
stays here, but your your your spirit goes somewhere else.
I could I could see why in recognizing that it
is your flesh and not and not the Holy Spirit
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living in you calling for that old or longing for
that old enslavement because it's dying. Yes, so good not
going with you. You know.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Another aspect of this is is the reason I quit
dipping on stage is because I felt convicted that I
was putting a stumbling block in front of others. Yeah,
so that's another thing that goes with any of this.
And if I'm on stage and there's kids, for one,
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seeing this seeing in this case tobacco being glorified, which
is interesting because people have smoked cigarettes and cigars and pipes,
good Christian men, But that was long before we realized
this causes lung cancer that is actually really bad for you.
So it also goes with our own wisdom. You know,
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most theologians back in the old days, we're smoking pipes
as they were doing commentaries. But I recognize that this
is a stumbling walk on top of other people that
might say. Someone say, I have a brother that comes
in that's been a spiritual brother.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Not you guys.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
He's been struggling with nicotine and he's trying to quit,
and he's twenty two days out. You know, he's been
struggling with mental focus and he's he's off of it
and he's feeling way better, and he is if he's
is he gonna come to my house and I'm gonna
pop in some zen be like how you doing?
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Brother?
Speaker 3 (42:10):
Hang on and say no, that's a stumbling block. That's
a Romans fourteen stumbling block in front of my brother.
And if I don't have the ability to stop that,
then I have a problem.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
Right, Yeah, for sure, then you're being selfish.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Yeah, then I'm not loving my neighbor.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
Right.
Speaker 5 (42:30):
Is it physically possible to do zen and not be
dominated by it, to not need it? Do y'all know
anybody that's just like yeah, every once in, I'm just
throwing is in.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
I think he's an honest question.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
I think it's a personality. With me, I'm like very
addictive personality. I'm all in or all out. You guys
know that. I've said that multiple times. I'm not gonna
have one tequila shot, I'm gonna have ten. I'm not
gonna have one nick A teen pouch. I'm gonna have
the whole can. Like, that's just ingrained in me. It's hard.
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So I think it different people, different personalities. I think
it's possible, but I can. I mean, I have to
be very careful.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
But I remember when when Lincoln and I went to
the Texas A and M Mississippi State game and I
had a bunch of buddies from college and my buddy
Scott Rice was there and he had some were sitting
on the little balcony and I was like, can I
have one of those?
Speaker 2 (43:30):
He's like yeah, And.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
Then we sat there. I put through one end and
watched the football game and it was with my buddies,
and I remember being like, this is cool.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
You used to tell me. And I don't know if
you're still there, obviously, I guess you still do it,
Like I just want to enjoy it, like if I'm
deer hunting or if I'm if I'm going to shast fishing. Yeah,
in the summertime, and you know, and you can go
months without doing it, and then you'll do one, and
then you'll go months again. You'll go deer hunting, do
one maybe football game. Yeah, it's like you're saying that.
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I'm just like blank space, Like, wow, there is no
way I could ever do that.
Speaker 4 (44:02):
You can't do that. Yeh.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
That's why I had to quit drinking. Yeah, I haven't touched.
You can't social drink. There'll be three years sober this year.
Like it's just because I'm fig trying to figure that out.
I just had to stop. Yeah, just had to stop.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
No, your growth, Tyler is so encouraging. You've grown and
like you've you've come so far, and and that Romans
twelve really is you, like you you do not conform
to the world because you've been your your mind has been.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Transformed by the gospel. Yeah, it's a it's all the
Lord and not me. Yeah, it's all the Lord. Like
for everything you're saying right now, it's like, yeah, I'd
love to go home and play some Grand Theft Auto
and get drunk on some whiskey and eat some pizza
to night. But the Lord is like, now, that's just
not in the cards. What you just described is like
what you used to say is like your that was.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
Your ideal night play grant thee I mean, order a pizza, well,
the whole thing, and drink a whole couple.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Well, we used to always talk on the road like
we play.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
We'd play Tuesday night, Wednesday night, Thursday night, Friday night,
Saturday night. It's like, and you drink. You have like
again alcohol every show, it's new alcohol, new bottles, and
so it's like, yeah, I might have a few drinks.
And then we start asking the question like are we alcoholics?
We drink like five nights out of the week, like probably,
And then we'd go home for a couple of days
and be like, well, it's Sunday night or Monday night,
might as well drink tonight, might as well drink every
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other night and then my something in my stomach starts hurting,
like a sharp pain, you know, like that's probably from
all the whiskey, but I'm not going to go to the doctor.
And then when I stopped drinking, it's like it just
went away, whatever that pain was.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
Yeah, I think one of the things that we could
we could say here is that. And one of the
things we want to model with this podcast is bouncing
everything off the Bible. What does the Bible say? What
does the Bible say? What does the Bible say? How
should we think through this? Because we're being sanctified by
the word of God, and so we must be engaged
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with the Word of God, sit under faithful preaching of
the Word of God, to being being nourished by our
own personal time with the Lord around other believers, around
other believers, the stumbling block like yes that say, hey, brother,
I've noticed you've been doing this a lot lately. I
just I want to make sure it's not harmful for you.
We need brothers walking with us like that, they could
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hold us again. You remember when you used to say
you need to upgrade your five Have you ever thought
that that is that's actually biblical advice?
Speaker 4 (46:29):
Yeah, talk about the five people around you.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
You remember that old thing, the old the old idea
of upgrade your five.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
I don't know that. I didn't know that you become
the five people that you surround yourself, you become.
Speaker 4 (46:39):
I've heard that.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
It's like if if you're hanging out with five people
that work work out, you're going to become the next.
Like if you're hanging around five people that drink, you're
going to start drinking. Like if you were hanging around
five people that go to church and love the Lord,
probably going to become the fifth you know, like that
sort of thing that's proverbs. Yeah, so you need to
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constantly check your circle so.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
That what used to be true for self help and
in advancement in the industry is actually also true with
biblical advice. You need you need. You need godly brothers
around you. Sisters, you need godly sisters around you. Men,
you need godly brothers around you. Check your five right now.
Everybody that's listening right now, look at your hand and
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count five.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
Count to five.
Speaker 4 (47:28):
That's good.
Speaker 3 (47:29):
Who are they? You are going to become the common denominator.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
Of those five?
Speaker 3 (47:36):
Do you have Do you have a brother that loves
you enough to say, brother, you Okay, I've been praying
for you. I've noticed you've been having the six pack
after work?
Speaker 2 (47:47):
Is everything?
Speaker 3 (47:47):
Okay, I'm concerned about this, like it takes love. That's
not judgment, you know, that's not Hey, I don't judge.
That would be out of contact to say that. That's
love of a brother. Right, So we have we have
to have a five in fact one, two, three, four, five,
We've got six in this room. We got press and
sitting with us listening in we got Caden New Year.
Speaker 4 (48:08):
Well but that's right, that's it's you and five who
you're five? Yeah, so it's six people.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3 (48:15):
That's that's a that's a good example. Yeah, another plug
for a healthy local church. Must have a healthy local church.
That's the easiest way to upgrade.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
You're five.
Speaker 4 (48:25):
Do you have a you have a good book for
us this week? Yes?
Speaker 3 (48:29):
Yeah, last week we did that. We're gonna sign this
one because we didn't have it. But I've got a
new copy now I had a fresh copy.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
Well, giveaway for this week is called.
Speaker 3 (48:39):
What is a Healthy Church?
Speaker 4 (48:42):
That's a great book and it's quick and it's insightful.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (48:48):
So if you're wating to upgrade your five and you're like, well,
I'm not part of a local church, or maybe I'm
part of local church, but I'm not really sure if
it's healthy. There's a difference between a false church and
a gospel preaching church church. False churches, no, there's no consideration.
But the gospel preaching churches. You could have an unhealthy
(49:08):
gospel preaching church. You know they have to preach the gospel.
They preached that Jesus died for your sins. It's unhealthy
in so many other ways. And then there's a healthy
gospel preaching church. If you want to upgrade your five
and you're wondering about your church, or you don't have
a church, here's the book giveaway for you. I'm going
to do these book giveaways every episode, but this is
(49:28):
not about only getting it to the person that wins
the giveaway. It's about everyone else that goes think I'll
go to Amazon and check that one out ten bucks
on Amazon. And it's very short, written by a dear
brother of ours, the pastor that Parker spent five months
learning under and then pressing, who sitting here with us?
(49:50):
New to our church? And you've been reading this book.
How you got in a chapter two chapters in? You've
gout two chapters in. Okay, it's going to start gett real. Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 4 (50:03):
It's less than fifteen dollars and depending on where you are,
you can get it overnight too.
Speaker 2 (50:06):
Okay for all the church.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
So what we're gonna do is we're gonna each we'll
write you a message, each of us here in this cover,
and we're gonna give away right now.
Speaker 4 (50:15):
So healthy Church.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
Okay, comment wherever you're listening right now, whether it's iHeart
or Spotify or Apple podcast, cruise over there on YouTube
and check out this video of this podcast and comment
below Healthy Church. That will enter you into Cadence Magical
(50:38):
Winner choosing technique that he does, and we will mail
this to you from ye apparel I believe.
Speaker 4 (50:45):
Let's go there and put healthy Church a comment to
this uh this video and if you want to, if
you're not a YouTube watcher, you're listening on like he said,
on Apple or Spotify or on iHeartRadio. Uh, if you
if you go to nine nine four one thepodcast dot com.
Everything we link all in one place right there, yep,
nine nine one thepodcast dot com To.
Speaker 3 (51:08):
Wrap up our topic here. Scripture does not explicitly reject
or or forbid nicotine. It does not, but we need
we must be wise. Freedom does not mean indifference. Grace
does not mean self deception. That's what we named the
title of this podcast. How should Christians feel about nicotine?
Not should Christians use nicotine? That would be legalism. But
(51:31):
we must think through these things as brothers. Parker, can
you give us a gospel to end this episode?
Speaker 1 (51:37):
A gospel? Yeah, Gospel means good news. The primary message
of Christianity is not be a better person. It's not
for all these rules.
Speaker 5 (51:46):
It's not don't drink or smoke or do anything bad.
The message of Christianity is that God created human beings
to love him and serve him and obey Him for eternity,
but that man kind did not do that, that man
has turned away from God and has worshiped and served
(52:06):
God's creation over him. That we're not naturally good, that
we don't have a little bit of good deep deep
deep down in us, that were not born morally neutral,
but that there's no one good on planet Earth, that
we've all turned from God, and that our hearts are
desperately wicked and we're sick and actually dead in our sins.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
And because God is a good judge who.
Speaker 5 (52:29):
Does not let the guilty go unpunished, just like a
good judge in your local city wouldn't let a guilty
criminal go unpunished. So God on Judgment Day is going
to rightly and justly judge sinners.
Speaker 1 (52:42):
And based on our sins.
Speaker 5 (52:44):
The Bible says that the wages of our sin is death,
and that we deserve good, just, eternal condemnation for our
sins and hell. But God, not desiring that anyone would perish,
sent his son Jesus Christ, who did obey the law perfectly,
who lived the perfect life that we were supposed to live.
And on the cross he took on the penalty for
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our sins, substituting himself in our place, taking on the
wrath of God. And he died, and three days later
he rose from the grave, showing that Jesus was the Christ,
the Messiah, he was the son of God. And now
he sits at the right hand of God, calling all
of us to repent or turn from our sins, to
(53:25):
trust his sacrifice on the cross alone for our salvation,
so that on Judgment Day, God says why should I
let you into heaven. It's not because I tried my best.
It's well because Christ lived the life that I was
supposed to live, and I recognized my sin and I
trusted in him, and you gave me a new heart
(53:46):
that then wanted to obey and.
Speaker 1 (53:52):
Serve you because of your grace, not because of anything
that I did.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
In that Gospel.
Speaker 3 (53:58):
That good news that Parker just said to that, Paul
writes in Romans One, for I am not ashamed.
Speaker 2 (54:04):
Of the Gospel what Parker just said.
Speaker 3 (54:06):
For it is what Parker just said. It is the
power of God for salvation to everyone who believes. To
the jew first and also to the Greek. For in
it what Parker said, the righteousness of God is revealed
from faith. For faith, as it is written, the righteous
shall live by faith. The Gospel is the power of
God for salvation. It is what converts unbelievers to believers.
(54:28):
It's what brings people from death to life and from
darkness to light. That's how we'll end the episode. Love
you guys, See you next Monday.
Speaker 4 (54:35):
Yegee.
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