Is The Bible True?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up. I'm Granger, me man, I'm Tyler, I'm Parker.
This is the ninety nine four one podcast, where we
seek the one and equip the ninety nine to do
the same. Comes from a parable in Luke fifteen. I
got to share that story in Minneapolis. I was wearing
a ninet nine four one hat and the guy said, so,
what's ninety nine for one? I love it when people
ask me that because it's like boom. I get to

(00:21):
tell him the gospel and it's and sometimes I'll admit
sometime's a little awkward. You got to get into it
right off the bat. You're like, oh, I guess we're
going to the gospel right now.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
You ever forget that you're wearing the hat and somebody.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Else all the time? So what is nine nine for one?
And I go, well, it comes from Jesus? And he said,
how many of you that had a hundred cheap if
you lost one, you would leave the ninety nine for
the one? And I said, and that takes us to
the gospel. And then sometimes their eyes kind of glaze over,
and then sometimes they like this particular guy in Minneapolis

(00:52):
said oh yeah. And another guy who nudged him and
said you should have known that, and he goes, yeah,
I should have known that. Yeah, thanks for shit in that, man.
Should we have a good topic today? An interesting way
of how we got here?

Speaker 2 (01:06):
What is it it?

Speaker 1 (01:08):
What's our topic?

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Topic is yep, exactly?

Speaker 1 (01:15):
I did that on purpose.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
How do we know the Bible is reliable?

Speaker 1 (01:21):
We please get a clip that we could put on
social media.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
That's so beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
This is not often I get you to do that.
That is not often. I'm so glad you are human,
you are human. I didn't they. I thought you're like
just robot, really good radio, really good.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
We are Ieart Podcast guaranteed human.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
So that's true, we are guaranteed human. But that was beautiful. Okay.
So the topic today it's it's basically can we trust
the Bible? And it's an interesting way of how we
got here to this topic today. Because I was supposed
to preach Second Peter one sixteen to twenty one in callaspell, Montana,

(02:06):
this past Sunday four a friend of this podcast, Chad Warren,
and that did not happen. And so because it did
not happen, I figured, let's just chat about it on
the podcast. I won't preach. I won't preach it, but
I wish we could talk about some of the main notes. Say,
it's Second Peter, Second Peter, Chapter one, sixteen to twenty one,

(02:30):
and this is this is Peter in his last days.
It's the last last known letter from Peter that we have,
and it's sometimes known as the his farewell epistle because
we know that through historians have recorded that he was

(02:53):
killed within about two years of writing this letter. And
so it's interesting about about sixty five a d. Was
when he wrote this. He was probably killed about sixty
seven a d. So this is not the young Peter
that we read about in the Gospels. This is an old,
seasoned apostle who was the eyewitness of these things. And

(03:18):
he's he's going to give us a way that we
could trust the Bible. Three ways. Actually, I'm gonna talk
We're gonna talk about that. Should I talk about why
I didn't even get to preest this though? First?

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, why didn't you? Well?

Speaker 1 (03:30):
I was preaching another passage on Psalm three And on
Friday this past Friday in or was a Grand Rapids,
Michigan outside of Grand Rapids, Michigan. So Lincoln and I
were going to use this as a spring break. I
was gonna take him. We're gonna go to Michigan. It's
gonna preach Psalm three. I was going to get on

(03:52):
a plane the next day on Saturday, fly to Chad
in Kallis Bell and on Sunday preach Tewod Peter one.
And then on Monday go with the Warren family. And
they have discounted lift tickets and the ski resort Whitefish
is just fifteen minutes from their house. Go ski for

(04:14):
half a day and then make it to the airport
and go home. That's a lot of moving parts, which
I've done a thousand times before. Tight moving parts. But
the Bible says, don't start acting like you're gonna go
here and do this and do that. You're gonna sell
this and do that. Unless the Lord wills, you don't

(04:37):
do anything right, which is why people say things like
Lord willing or God willing, this will happen. And airplane
travel really makes that a reality to remind us you
don't do anything. Do you. Guys try to correct your language.
I mean I sure try to correct it, even in

(04:57):
text messages. I try to correct it. Feels weird saying
I'm going to do this on Friday, right, Instead of saying.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
I plan to do this, I say that a lot
my plan is too X, Y and Z.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
And that's that's the reality that if we say I'm
going to do something as a Christian, we should follow
it with Lord willing.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah, which sounds insane to the average person, like you're
way over doing it. But I mean, James four is
so clear. Yeah, read that, Parker, you got it, James
four or thirteen. Come now, you who say today or
tomorrow will go into such and such town and spend
a year there and trade and make a profit. Yet
you do not know what tomorrow will bring. What is
your life? For you are a mist that appears for

(05:44):
a little time and advantishes. Instead, you ought to say,
if the Lord wills, we will live and do this
or that. As it is currently, you boast and your arrogance.
All such boasting is evil. So whoever knows the right
thing to do and fails to do it for him
at his sin. It's so clear. I mean, it's like

(06:06):
it's not even talking about like doing anything crazy, it's
just saying tomorrow we'll go to such and such town
and spend a year and trade and make a profit.
I don't know the full context of what was going
on and be interesting to do a deep dive into that.
But yeah, like it's up to you, yeah, to be
able to do this. What is that John James Ford.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
James and you know, like Mark Dever will say he's
really good about it. Like when when Mark text us
out text us and he's his language never says I'm
going to do this. Never the other thing that guys
I'm to do it, he'll say, I'm I'm to preach this,
or I plan to preach this, or he'll if he does,

(06:46):
say I'm going to excess the lord Billy.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
Oh that's interesting. I never thought about that language. If
I'm too, I'm too I'm going to.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yeah, I'm too. Uh, we're we could say this morning,
we're to record a podcast to day with the guys
for nine nine for one.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
The other thing that some of the guys would say
is a little bit more explicitly that even if they're
just talking about something happening next week, they'd say, if
the Lord Terry's this is what I plan on doing.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah, I don't know, does it not come across as
like cheesy or is that just my pride talking, like
because it's like, yeah, right there, James Ford. What but
the James four doesn't say say Lord Willing and everything
and that you know the Bible read read again, say.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
It says come now. You say today or tomorrow will
go into such and such town and spend a year
there and trade and make a profit. Yet you don't
know what tomorrow will bring. What is your life? You're
a miss that appears. Instead, you ought to say if
the Lord wills.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yeah, I know it said that and I just heard
it the first pie No, but I think I don't know. Again,
I could be wrong, could be my pride talking. But
it's like I feel like that's implied and it's a
heart posture like obviously to me, like the Lord is
going to have his way no matter what. But saying
I'm gonna come to the Lord Willing, like it just
kind of seems repetitive. I think it's more of a

(08:03):
heart like obviously Lord Willing. I also think that the
I think in Matthew Verst says let your yes be
yes and your no be no. So it's like if
I say I'm going to be somewhere, I'm going to
be there, it's like based on that verse, based on
being a man of my word, a man of integrity.
I see you exactly what you're saying. I'm just kind
of talking see what you're saying. But I think it's

(08:25):
also just like when people always say Lord Willing, it's
almost like a joke. It's like, no, I get it,
like I understand, but it's a posture. It's a it's
the way we communicate matters. Our words matter, and what
you're saying through Lord Willing is I know where I
put my trust and you're but if you know it,

(08:46):
why do you got to speak it? Because you're communicating,
you're communicating to someone else, for one, but you're also
you're also preaching that to your own heart. And I mean, hey,
look I say it all the time too. I'm not
saying I don't. Yeah you do you you say Lord
Willing all the time, but but I try.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
I'll why do I say that? Yeah, so that'll happen.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
I don't think. I don't think I say it as
much as other people. And again maybe it's the price.
Like I'm coming out of the world of like I
used to say, like I'm doing this yeah with you know,
financial goals like touring music goals like we're going to
make this happen no matter what, me, me me. So
I'm still I guess, you know, coming out of that,

(09:29):
that old self, that shell. Maybe it's a me problem.
Maybe I should say Lord Willing. I know James says that,
but I still read that now, like James is not
totally right, No, he's still I still read that. It's
like say Lord Willing every time you say you're gonna
do something. I think that's overkill. I could be wrong.
Read The challenge would be read the epistles and try

(09:51):
to find an apostle that doesn't speak that way.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
I don't think you have to say Lord Willing anytime
you're talking about the future necessarily, but I think that
you should be careful when we're talking about the future,
assuming that something is for sure going to happen tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
So what what what Parker means is you don't say
Lord Willing every time, but you could say I hope,
I wish, I'm I plan. My intention is it's into
interesting learning Spanish, and those are all like the future
terms you want to learn for Spanish. But so I
say I hope to uh, I hope to be in

(10:29):
Michigan Friday, or my plan is to be in Michigan Friday,
or I'm booked my flight's book to be in Michigan Friday,
or I'm to be in Michigan Friday. Like those are
all ways of saying saying I'll be there on Friday
instead of saying I will be in Michigan Friday. That's
the arrogance that James is talking about. Is it arrogance
or is it just saying that's my plan like a
booked a flight, Like No, you're just.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
Not saying that's my plan. You're saying I will be
there on Friday.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
You's my plan. The the Lord will establish my steps. Right,
I make my plan, the Bible says, but the Lord
establishes my steps. So it's fine to say I plan
to be in Michigan Friday, but it's different to say
I will in my arrogance, I know I will be.
I just don't think it's an arrogance thing. Then we're

(11:12):
just arguing, James. I just think I think this is No,
I'm not arguing James. I think this is like podcast
is so good.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
I love it when it happens like everyone's gonna hate Granger,
and I I think that there's just like.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
English dictionary issue and not like a biblical issue or semantics,
but semantics semantics matter.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Well. I think too that James is also who it's
who he's speaking to. He's noticing things if if my
guess is that he is noticing things about the people
that he's talking to, Like you were arrogant about everything,
and you're even the point.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
That, hey, Lord Willing, you would do these things, which
we all agree.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
And I think that it's yes, it is your language,
but he's saying, hey, correct your language because it will
help correct the other things in your life that you're
being so ar about. You think that you're in control
of everything right now, once you control what you're saying,
and then let that be a reflection as you move
along in your life, you know, cause.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Which is another argument James making in his letter about
taming the tongue. Yes, of course, I just say I'm
just saying that, like we're coming to this podcast, mean Parker.
Parker's not saying, Lord Willing, I'm I'm going to move
my call at one thirty and like, Lord Willing, I'll
be there. It's like, hey, we'll see you at one.
That's when the podcast starts, right, we'll be there.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
But that's what That's what I'm bringing up, is that
we're we're not seeing a posture at a Parker being
arrogant about everything else in his life. But I think
that that's what James was seeing. He was seeing these
other people being arrogant about everything, like you were in
control of all this stuff. And so if you did
see that out of Parker, you go, hey, you know,
you think that you're in control. You're saying that you're

(12:51):
going to be there tomorrow. You don't know that you're
going to be there.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
And I think Parker technically said, I'll try to move
my call.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yeah, I'll try to move that. Yeah, yeah, he.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Said, if I'm going to move my This is funny,
but it's a good conversation. Not a lot of people
talk with these you know, like I get dissecting this stuff.
I'm gonna tell Tyler, I totally get it too. I
totally get it too. And for me, I like to
control of my own semantics because I feel like I
I could have a tendency of leaning into my own control.

(13:19):
So I want to take control of my semantics before
they take control of me. Yeah, I guess I should
say that way.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
And that's why I you know, I mentioned this last
week on the podcast, is that I think that's a
great example of trying to find trying to pull out
a little bit. We tend to get very very microscopic
in the word, where we're going word for word what
did that mean? And that's good. I mean, that is
a cool study. But if you you know, stretch it,
you know, vertical and horizontal and go where were they

(13:46):
what was happening, what were they talking about, you know,
what was happening in society around them? They would lead
them to have this conversation. You know.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yeah, I just I think there's still a lot of
pride enough to me to be honest with you. So
cauld I I tell you what started this conversation about
Lord Willing, because this weekend is a great example of this.
It's a great example. So I had Lincoln with me
and this was kind of a mini spring break. I
just told you what we planned to do, you know,
go to Michigan, go to Montana, half day skiing, fly home.

(14:19):
Everything's tight. So we get we get to Detroit and
the first thing that happened was was we got up
at five am. Here, we drove the airport, we went
to Michigan and in Detroit, the flight to Grand Rapids
where I was going to speak, canceled. So I told Lincoln,
I said, let's how far is the drive. It's two hours.

(14:40):
Let's rent a car. Lincoln already is excited as like,
oh that's cool. So we rent a car. We drive
from Detroit to Grand Rapids and I get there just
in time to walk up on the stage and do
the message. Wonderful people. It was for an organization called

(15:01):
Finding Freedom Ranch, which is the members of a church
there set up a home that they hoped that grows
into more. But it's for people with eating disorders because
it's like a home to fore they they can come in,
get the gospel, get counseling, and recover from their eating disorder.

(15:21):
And it's from a family that had a daughter that
suffered with this, so they started it. So first of all,
awesome Michigan people. Man, Michigan was always one of my
favorite places to play music, specifically Grand Rapids where we
had so many shows with B ninety three, E. Vash
and The Intersection and other shows we played there, and

(15:44):
so all these Michigan people came and I haven't seen
them in three years. It's been three years since we
did the Farewell tour there. Can you believe that? In
Grand Rapids. But a lot of people listening to this podcast,
so I'm assuming people listening right now were there at
that event, because a lot of people brought up the
Nighty nine for one podcast and said how much they
like Tyler. A lot of them said they like Tyler.
Like one of these guys said, man, I like Tyler

(16:07):
on there. He's just laid back country boy, just trying,
just doesn't know a lot about the world, just trying
to love Jesus. I love Tyler. So shout out to Michigan.
We head back to the hotel after that crazy day
of renting a car and all you know, barely make
it in time. The we go back and and I

(16:29):
told Lincoln, I said, we have an early morning. I Needa,
I need you to take a shower and get ready
for bed, and like, Nope, don't waste any time because
we have to get up at five. And that's going
to feel like because we're on Eastern time, it's gonna
feel like four. But because of the time change, it's
gonna feel even earlier. So it's gonna it's gonna rock
our bodies when we get up, it's gonna feel like

(16:49):
three am. But we got to get to the airport,
and we got to fly to Minneapolis and layover and
then a cow spell. He's like, cool, We go to bed,
we wake up.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
We we.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Go to the Grand Rapids Airport's super easy. We fly
to Minneapolis, no problem at all. Get to Minneapolis. We
have about two hours before the flight and are layover
and we're gonna get to Kallis Bell by lunch time.
See the Warrens, have some lunch, relax, I'll get to
touch up on my sermon. Gonna be a great day
love Montana skiing Monday. This is gonna be a great weekend.

(17:23):
Until that flight started delaying, delaying, delaying, delaying. I'm asking
the people with Delta, why is this delay, and they
said they're waiting on a crew change, and that cru
is delayed. They're trying to get in. We finally get
to the plane after several hours of delay. We get
to the plane and we're waiting on a passenger. Turns
out the passenger we're waiting on is another pilot. The

(17:45):
pilot gets there, she sits down, and then the captain
gets on. Hey, folks, captain speaking, thank you for their
patience today. Sorry for the multiple hour delay. Hate to
say this and be the bearer of bad news here,
but now me and my co pilot have timed out
of our of our flying time today. So Doulta's going

(18:06):
to find you a new pilot, So sorry about that.
Didn't you just wait on a pilot? We just waited
on a pilot, so can't they go fly? And she
got up there and talked, but then nothing happened. Everyone's frustrated.
So then we waited at probably thirty thirty five minutes,
forty five minutes FROs crafting spreeaking Delton was not able
to find a pilots. Unfortunately, this flight is canceled. Boom,

(18:27):
and everyone just collectively, oh, you know, they get upset.
So we file off the plane and we go to
the big departures huge in Minneapolis to airport, huge departure screen,
and I took up my phone told you this earlier,
took a picture for chat GBT, and I said, find

(18:48):
me the top three closest cities to Kallis Bell, Montana
on this list comes back within no time at all,
just instantly. It says Missoula two hours, spoke in three
and a half hours, Seattle five hours. That said, Missoula,
find me, and Lincoln's working this whole time, Like it's

(19:10):
really cool to see Lincoln working through problems like this,
knowing that we're not in control. James for the Lord's
going to do it. So let's work on this together.
Lincoln find me this, find me this, and he's like, okay, okay,
Eddie kay daddy. So we found a Missoula fight that
evening six pm. It's a three hour flight. We get
to Missoula. It's a two hour drive rint a car

(19:31):
drive the Calispell be it will be in Kalispell by
midnight ish. It's okay, it's I won't have chance to
work on my sermon, but we'll be there and I'll
preach it, book it. We had a little bit of
time to kill in the airport. We go to the
We get ready for the Missoula flight. It starts getting delayed, delayed, delayed, delayed.
A huge blizzard's about to hit Minnesota right huge blizzard,

(19:54):
like record breaking blizzard so they're trying to push us
out before ten pm when it hits hard. We don't.
It gets pushed into ten pm, but we still get
on this flight because they're weighing on a pilot. Again.
We get on there and they have to de ice
it because the blizzard's now hitting. They de ice the plane.
By now it's eleven pm or so. I'm thinking we're

(20:16):
driving all night to Callous Bow. But we're gonna be okay.
The de ice it. They get us out on the
runway and they fire up the jets and they get
up to you know, jet speed. The engines start roaring,
and then they come down again. Hey, folks, got it's
speaking here. So as you heard, I took the engines
up to speed, and our right engine is giving us

(20:36):
a technical warning check engine light, basically saying that there's
a valve fixture that needs attention. So maintenance is on
the way. Don't worry one to sit here on the
runway and maintenance comes hour later. It's midnight.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Now I'm getting irritable just listening to this.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
I mean, everyone's grumbling.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
So they get it.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
The maintenance ends up saying we got to go back
to the gate. Go back to the gate. I'm trying
to storyteller. If you can't tell, we get back. We
get back to the gate. We have to wait because
now the snow's piled up. And then the maintenance comes on.
Now it's midnight, and they say flight's canceled. Everyone starts
getting so upset, and one lady starts losing her mind, screaming, crying,

(21:20):
I can't be here. I need to be home. I
can't be in Minneapolis. Help me. I'm having a panic attack.
I had a miscarriage two weeks ago. I lose like
just screaming all her problems. Wow, you know, for the
whole plane to hear. People are trying to console her.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
She's like, don't touch me, don't look at me. I can't.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
No one can move. Like they start bringing like security
in police. You know, it's like the whole thing we've
seen on YouTube, this whole thing people are filming, you know,
hoping to put it on TikTok and go virala linking
the whole time. Lincoln's just taking all this in and
the video below. But this moment, this moment happened so
by now it's like twelve thirty and Lincoln goes like

(22:02):
so concerned, daddy, what are we gonna do? And I
looked at him, without even really thinking about it, I said,
have I ever let you down?

Speaker 2 (22:13):
And he goes, h.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
No, like it just all of a sudden it hit him.
He goes no, I go and I'm not going to now.
He goes, no, what are we going to do? I go, okay,
let's come up with a plan. And they were, they
were passing out hotels. I said, they say, they're going

(22:40):
to book us tomorrow at five pm. So let's get
let's get a hotel and what we can do tomorrow.
I'm all of America. He goes, yeah, we'll go ride
some rides like you got it? And he goes, this
is good, daddy, I don't really mind. I don't mind
that we're not going to Montana. We get to write
some rides. Like all of a sudden, these days like lived,
go to the hotel, get some sleep, get up, go
to the mall of America, have a great time riding

(23:02):
some rides. All the churches this Sunday, by the way,
I had already texted Chad gone through the whole deal,
so sorry about this. All the churches are canceled in Minneapolis,
so we couldn't even go to a service, but we
could go to the mall. That says a lot about America, right,
So we get ready for this Missoula flight that they've

(23:22):
rebooked the next day at five pm. But then I
started getting messages delayed, delayed, delayed, delayed. I said, Lincoln,
get ready, if this delays, we could rent a car
and just start driving home. He's like, because, oh, by
the way, there's no flights to Texas at all till Wednesday, which,
as we're recording this podcast right now, the flights aren't

(23:43):
even until tomorrow for me to even come home to
Texas from Minneapolis. The blizzard's so bad, so boom. Right
after thirty minutes after I said that, I get a
message flights canceled. I said, let's go go to the
airport and we rent a car or a jeep before
we'll drive jeep. Let me start driving, and it's just

(24:04):
an adventure, like he's just loving every minute of it.
We drive and took for about an hour until we
realize this is an undrivable blizzard. We can't be here.
It's it's a danger. If the sun goes down, this
could be very dangerous. We don't have coats because the
airline has our bags. So I said, all right, next
hotel find I give him my phone. Find the next hotel.

(24:26):
He finds a hotel in a little bit of town.
Interstate closes down. We're on a back road. This is
a long story I'm trying to make. I'm trying to
make fast. Find a hotel in a just a nowhere
town just north of clear Lake, Iowa, which we've spent
so much time touring in Iowa. I had a feeling
if something bad happens to us, I can get on
Facebook and ye, Nation Iowa would be there in thirty seconds.

(24:50):
Like I love our Iowa country boys and country girls
like that they have our back. So we get this
hotel and here we are now with a new dilemma
of all the interstates are closed all the way to Ames, Iowa,
which is you know, a couple hours. It's all closed,
the whole interstate and there's just an unheard of type
blizzard in northern Iowa. Next morning, we get up, We

(25:15):
waited it out. We took a trip to the Dollar
Tree just to see how the roads were. But all
this to say, we don't plan. We don't make our plans.
The Lord does. We make our plans, I mean, but
the Lord establishes our steps. Yeah. So we finally decided
to drive. And we were just going twenty miles an hour,
I mean, wind's blowing, racing across the road, and I

(25:36):
kept refreshing the Apple maps. And then finally I said,
I noticed interstates opened. They had cleared it with enough
salt and trucks. So we made our way to there.
As soon as we got on that interstate started going,
I handed my phone to Lincoln. I said, here's your task.
Go to the map, find the closest cities, and when

(25:57):
you find a close city to us, go to American
Delta Southwest United and find the flights to Austin, Texas.
If you can get one before midnight ish eleven thirty midnight,
that's under five hundred dollars, let me know. And when
you do that, go to the weather app look for
that city on the weather rapp and if the temperature

(26:17):
is above thirty then you could trust that city more.
He goes and boom, he just find he just like
his brain focused in. It was so good for him.
That's all puts it puts it on task. He finds
Kansas City. There's one flight out of Kansas City. That's
a three hundred and fifty dollars flight, not bad, and
it's going to get us in Austin. We get to

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Kansas City no problem. Then that flight starts delaying.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
All to say, we got in.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
We landed at one one oh seven last night in
the morning, one o seven am, and drove home, made
it here. I was in bed just a little after two,
and all of that was completely outside of my plan.
That might be the longest story I've ever listened to
in my life. But I'm glad you're home safely.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
What point did you start tuning out?

Speaker 1 (27:09):
I listened to the whole thing. I actually listened to
the whole thing and knows me well, and I didn't
tune out. It was crazy. I'm I'm surprised, Lincoln was.
I can't even do all that stuff well, and I
think only twelve, right, twelve years old. I pull out
and look at we've on not this podcast, on the

(27:30):
Granger Smith podcast. We have the story of you and
London coming back from a mission trip. Yep, and now
you've now you've got one with Lincoln. We are not
new to travel problems something.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
The thing that is comforting in those as a Christian
is you know that it's not accidental. God's hands aren't
tied somewhere. You know that you're like you know the
Lord is sovereign over every little thing, and so it
brings you comfort when someone else can have maybe a panic,
which is understandable. I've wanted to have that too on
an airplane, but can bring you comfort. Maybe one day

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we'll get our bags back to I don't know.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Oh you still don't have your bags.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
No, okay, So second Peter one, you let me read this. Guys, yes, yeah,
So the old Peter writes this, and once again we're
thinking about can we trust our bibles. Peter says, we
did not follow cleverly devised myths when we made known
to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

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But we were eye witnesses of his majesty. For when
he received honor and glory from God the Father, and
the voice was born to him by the majestic glory.
This is my beloved son, with whom I'm well pleased.
We ourselves heard this very voice born from heaven, for
we were with him on the Holy mountain, and we

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have the prophetic word more fully confirmed, to which you
will do well to pay attention as a lamp shining
in a dark place until the day dawns and the
morning star rises in your hearts, knowing this first of all,
that no prophecy of scripture comes from someone's own interpretation.
For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man,
but men spoke from God as they were carried along

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by the Holy Spirit. So the old Peter showing us here,
as we as we think about the validity of the Bible,
can we trust it? We live in a world when
we can't really trust anything.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
You know.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
We see something on TikTok and we say, was that
video even real? We see the president say something, Was
that really him? Or is that manipulated? The Bible says
of itself that it's true. Well, is that a circular
argument that the Bible? We trust the Bible because the
Bible says it's true. Is that not circular reasoning? And
so Peter in this passage gives us gives us three

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things to think about when we could think about the
Bible's reliable He says sixteen to eighteen, the Bible is
illumine verse nineteen and the Bible's authoritative verse twenty to
twenty one. And I think that that's the order of
importance reliability, illumination, authoritative, and I'll fly through this. But

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he starts. He starts with eyewitness.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
He was there.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
He says, look, you should pay attention to these things.
I was there and not just me talking about the
transfiguration when he heard the voice from God. This is
my son with whom I am well pleased. That also
happened that Jesus's baptism. But he was Peter was there
with James and John on this mountain when this happened

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to Jesus. And so he starts with saying, we were
there on that holy mountain, we ourselves heard this very voice.
The Bible begins with eyewitness testimony as the first credibility
for reliability. Let me say this. Skeptics will say, I
don't believe the Bible because I believe in science. But

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that's a category error because you don't judge historical documents
by the scientific method, because the scientific method has to
be repeatable natural phenomenon. Right, that's a scientific method. But
when you're thinking about historical, historical documents. It's based on

(31:23):
corroborating evidence, eyewitness testimony like you would use in a courtroom. Sure,
let's bring in let's bring in an eyewitness, let's bring
in evidence. Okay, So that's not the scientific method. So
that's a category error to say that. But when we
begin with these eyewitness testimonies, Luke says the same thing.
Whenever he writes his Gospel. He says he basically says,

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I'm going to give you an account as from those
who from the beginning were eyewitnesses and ministers of the Word,
and then he says that you may have certainty in
these things that you've been taught. John begins his gospel
by saying that which was from the beginning, which we
have heard and seen with our own eyes, which we
have looked upon and touched with our own hands, concerning

(32:07):
the Word of life, as we have seen it, that
which we have seen and heard and proclaimed to you,
so that you may have fellowship with us. That's how
John begins it. So so much of this stuff Acts four.
They were the Jewish leaders told Peter and John to
stop preaching, and they said, how could we stop preaching
what we have seen and heard? So eyewitness, eyewitness eyewitness,

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which is important because the Bible is a collection, a
collection of historical documents written over the course of sixteen
hundred years by around forty different authors, written in the
time of eyewitnesses, by eyewitnesses. That makes sense, yes, so

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it was written in three languages, over three different continents,
separated in such a way that these people could have
never known each other to get their story straight.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
So yeah, hey, let's set out and talk about this.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
No one was able to have a meeting over fifteen
hundred years, forty different authors, three different languages, three different continents,
and yet all of the stories line up perfectly, and
they were written by eyewitnesses, most of them. Luke is
an exception. People like that in the time of other eyewitnesses.
You guys, remember First Corinthians fifteen, when Paul says, I

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delivered to you of first importance. When I also received
that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the scriptures,
that he was buried, that he was raised on the
third day in accordance with the scriptures, and that he
appeared Decephus, then to the twelve. Then he appeared to
more than five hundred brothers at one time, most of
whom are still alive. The Bible. These events happened in public,

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two other people around many people. Imagine the feeding of
the five thousand, Yeah, five thousand. This was not a
guy in a cave getting a revelation, yeah, just then
getting a revelation from an angel in a cave in
a secret spot that maybe was brought up many years later.
These are many people that saw these things and specific

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places and specific times by two specific people. All names, times,
places mentioned in the Bible. Then we think about this,
although it was written by forty different authors fifteen hundred years,

(34:44):
three different languages, three different continents, we still have a
mountain of evidence on the manuscripts themselves. Let me explain
they Have you guys ever heard people say I don't

(35:04):
trust the Bible because it's like a game of telephone.
There's so many translations.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
That's probably the most common excuse.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
Okay, I mean somebody, somebody had the original at one point,
and then they somebody else made a copy, and somebody
else made a copy of that copy and then translated
to this language, and then that times six hundred is
going to end up with a completely different text like
that's exactly what Muslims would say, that all of the

(35:31):
New Testament is basically corrupt and like none of it. Yeah,
they affirmed Jesus as a prophet, but all this other
stuff about him it is just has just been corrupted
and changed.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
That's exactly right. That would be called the game of telephone,
where it just every time it gets translated, a little
thing changes. Some king or somebody that goes into power
once a little thing changed for him, so he changes it.
But that's just not the reality, and in fact, that
argument is absolutely impossible for this reason. First of all,

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good translations we have today are derived from the Greek,
not from the latter the latest translation of English, but
all the way back to the Greek manuscripts that we have.
Of those manuscripts, we don't have the originals. That should
be obvious. But what we do have, the earliest ones

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date back to early second century, meaning during the times
when there would be apostles alive. Then, so the earliest
manuscripts go back to the time these apostles were actually alive.
And we have of those Greek manuscripts, we have nearly

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six thousand of them. Okay, this will make sense in
a second. So imagine six thousand manuscripts ancient, some of
them dating back all the way to the early second century,
during the time when some of the apostles may have
been still alive or at least their disciples, the disciples
of those postles would have been. But when you include
other ancient languages that it was translated into, we're talking

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over twenty thousand, twenty thousand copies. I have a replica
of p. Fifty two in here there comes from John
eighteen and that's from early second century, when John would
have still been alive. Possibly. Wow. So but this is
crazy if you think that's a lot. Do you think

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that's a lot? Twenty thousand and six thousands? It sounds
like a whole lot, and it is. But compared to
other ancient works. You guys ever heard of Julius Caesar's
Gallic Wars. It's a very famous. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
I'm looking at a table right now with ancient works, okay,
when they were written, and then the earliest copy in
the number of copies Julius Caesar.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
You could tell me if my notes are right, ten
manuscripts ten and the earliest copies nine hundred years after
Caesar wrote it. So once again, Gospels. We're talking. We're
talking about our the New Testament specifically, we're talking within
a few decades of the originals. And there's twenty thousand

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Julius Caesar ten, nine hundred years after Aristotle. We all
know Aristotle, very famous. Everybody in this room. No Aristotle, right, Yeah,
fifty manuscripts copied a thousand years after. That's the The
earliest one is one thousand years after fifty. Okay, Homer's Iliad.

(38:41):
Every high school kid has to read Homer's Iliad. That
when you, guys, did you read that? You skipped it
in Ogoma. Do you think any teacher tells the kids
this may or not be, this may or may not
be exactly what right? No one say what was written? Okay,
it's one of the best preserved works in all of antiquity.

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Eighteen hundred manuscripts, earliest copies four to five hundred years
after the original. No one questions, No one says, Homer's Iliad,
this may may have been changed a whole.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Bunch of times out of all of them.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
That's the closest to that's the closest to the Gospels.
But the New Testament is a completely different category as
far as historical evidence. And on top of all that
circulated while other eyewitnesses of those events would have been alive,
meaning someone could say, hang on, hang on a second,
I was there on that hill when he fed the

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fish and the loaves. I was there, and that that
didn't happen that way it could have. They could have
easily have been there. The other thing is with when
when you have twenty thousand fragments of manuscripts everywhere over
three different continents and these different languages, if someone came
into power that wanted to change something about the Bible, yeah,

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they would have to find twenty manuscripts. You change them all,
change them all, even in the languages they don't understand,
and even in the continents that they couldn't reach. They
would have to collectively say we want this for the
King's power. You know, like people say about the Bible's
false because it's just manipulated by so that we haven't

(40:19):
even gotten in the Holy Spirit here, we haven't gotten
into inspiration here. We're just talking about just the just
the print that we have today. Can we trust it?
We're not even going to get into the multiple false
gospels like the Gospel of Mary, the Gospel of Peter,
Gospel of Thomas. We don't even have to get there yet.
We're just talking about what we have today. How close

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is this to the original? Well just buy it on
the vast amount of manuscripts and the low amount of
copy error, the closer to the original, the close time
to the originals, and the vast amount of them. When
you add it all up. Textual, the textual critic taking this,
taking this, take is this right? It's impossible to say

(41:05):
this is false. This has been changed.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
One of the cool things I remember and Why Trust
the Bible by Greg Gilbert to cool little book, He
talks about how actually there are thousands of little differences
in all of these copies, but that actually makes the
Bible more historically reliable because if they all carbon copy
exact same grammar and exact same words in different places,
and that would that would push the idea that these

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are all like carbon copies that were manufactured to give
the appearance of truth. But in reality, with all the
copies having these subtle differences and all being from all over,
some will say Jesus's Lord, some would say Christ Jesus
is Lord. Another one would say, Jesus Christ is the Lord,
you know, and so he talks about it in the
book about how like they all have. There's nothing that's

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different about these different copies that changes the primary purpose
of the text.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
Right, makes sense?

Speaker 3 (42:00):
Right, So it's super cool, and so historians are able
to actually look at those minor differences as actually like
making it more historically reliable. Tyler, are we missing anything here?
Are you lost? Is there anything? Is there any good
questions you could ask to the people who may be
confused right now?

Speaker 2 (42:16):
Are you are?

Speaker 3 (42:17):
You're usually the voice of reason?

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Okay, well, the next two points will be quicker, I promise.
But just as far as the Bible is reliable, eyewitness testimony,
amount of manuscripts, time closest to the originals in the
in the other in the time of other eyewitnesses, the
vast where we find these all over you know, this
this area, it's impossible to change them. So I'm not

(42:44):
saying at this point, we're not saying if you're if
you're a skeptic and you're listening to the podcast right now,
you don't believe in you're not a Chris, you're an atheist.
Whatever you are, at this point. I'm not even telling
you to believe. I'm just saying the Bible as we
have it today would hold up in any courtroom. If
you're making the argument, do you think this is what
the original author actually wrote? I believe in any jury

(43:08):
in a modern day court would say we don't. We
don't believe that the authors were correct, but we do
believe that what they wrote down is what we have today.
Does that make sense what I just said? Yeah, okay,
So even if you're an atheist, you could say, at
least I don't believe in Jesus. I don't even believe

(43:30):
there is a God, but I do believe that those
crazy people that were writing this stuff down, what they
wrote is is what we have today. So why don't
we read the Bible in school instead of Homer.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
M that was four podcasts ago. We don't want to?
I'm just joking.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
Yeah, I mean, that's that's a good point.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
But because it's a religious text, I guess, yeah, it's
a religious text.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
What does kind of tie back into that? Would we
want our teachers today teaching the Bible?

Speaker 1 (44:05):
So the next point Peter's making here is the Bible
is illuminating. He talks about it being a light to
your path. The Bible talks of itself as a as
a light to the path. Peter says, a light, a
lamp shining in a dark place where this prophetic word
was confirmed. And what we have in the Bible is
something that no other book, especially religious book, has fulfilled

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prophecy over and over, over and over again. I heard
Chad Warren say, because he preached my sermon, I gave
him my notes and he preached it, and then I
listened to him preaching, and I thought it was better
than I would have done. So good, and he added
a part that we're not in my notes, but he
added apart talking just statistically, there's been a study maybe

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when you guys know this, but there's been a study
of what would be the odds of eight prophecies coming true.
And it was like so high a number that you've
never even heard of the number. It was like it
was like the tillion or crazy.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
But that's where you learn how to eat correctly.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
That that's just that's just only eight. Yeah, And we
have countless prophecies in the Old Testament fulfilled perfectly. In fact,
I'm preaching one of them. This coming Sunday in amais
Isaiah fifty three. Isaiah fifty three Isaiah is seven hundred
years before Christ, prophesying almost an exact description of the

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crucifixion right of Christ. So what do you call them prophecies? Yeah? Yeah,
So how many prophecies are there in the Bible and
how many have been fulfilled? They'll know that answer. Jam
might know that.

Speaker 3 (45:49):
JBT.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
Would I asked how many, I don't know how many
are left? I'm sure that that. I'm sure that that's
a you near left to be. You would end up saying,
is this technically this is fulfilled? Or that this is
not some dispute if this is fulfilled or not. So
you're going to end up with like a little bit
of an odd number, but it's a lot.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
Roughly three hundred to three hundred and fifty Old Testament
prophecies about the Messiah specifically are considered fulfilled in Jesus Christ.
A commonly cited number is around three hundred thirty two examples,
Who's born in Bethlehem Micah five to two fulfilled in
Matthew et cetera, born of a virgin betrayed for thirty
pieces of silver pierced hands and feet, crucified with Chris,

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criminals buried with the rich. Many of these were seven
hundred to one thousand years before Jesus. Total of around
eighteen hundred total prophecies appearance scripture, thirteen hundred plus have
been fulfilled thirteen hundred.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
So what are the ones that haven't been fulfilled?

Speaker 3 (46:51):
Ummm?

Speaker 1 (46:51):
And when does chut gpt say.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
That Christ second, Christ's second Coming, final Judgment, resurrection of
the dead, new heavens and the new Earth, ultimate restoration
of Israel and the nations found in Daniel and Zachariah
Matthew twenty four.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
Yeah, technically, Tyler, you would no one would know that
because in the Old Testament, when it's when a New
Testament passage is fulfilled, the writers will say something like
this was to fulfill the prophecy of you know, just
to fulfill the scripture, and sometimes you wouldn't even have
known that was a prophecy. So the ones that haven't
been fulfilled yet, you technically don't even know all of them.

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That would be like and even the ones that were
fulfilled in the Old Testament from the Old Testament, like
that that Abraham would one day he would be he
would have descendants that would be brought into the land,
that would be taken into exile and then brought back
from the Egypt. You like, the the craziness of just

(47:49):
the Old Testament fulfilling itself is wild. This is something.
This is why the Bible is illuminating. It has no
other book does this. It's fascinating. People have been people
have been converted just from hearing about scripture being fulfilled
and and looking at it from an analytical lens and

(48:10):
trying to tackle that problem and then realizing this can't
be tackled. There's no other way around it.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
Besides, that's why so many atheists convert to Christianity, because
the more digging that you do, really the more that
you see. If you are seeking truth, Yep, you're gonna
find it and you're going to find out that it's true. Like,
I love what Wes Huff says about how like Christianity
has this amazing historical and from a historical sense reliability

(48:44):
and a philosophical sense as well as like there's truth
in like the philosophical sense, and like in terms of
its wisdom pointing to its true in terms of the
human condition. And then there's a sense of like the
historical documents that we found and the prophecies that came
true that prove it, not to mention like the faith

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aspect of it too.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Yeah, so last point here, the Bible is illuminating. Excuse me,
the Bible. The Bible is authoritative, and I think that
this is the most important of the three points. The
Bible is authoritative. And the reason that this would be
the most important of the of the three is that

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no matter no matter what it prophesies, or no matter
who is an eyewitness to it, the most important thing
about it would be who wrote it. And Paul says that,
as we've talked about it on this podcast before, was
tewod timent thy three sixteen, that all scripture is breathed

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out by God. Some translations God breathed. Literally, that's a
new word that that was created. Paul created a word
that didn't exist. God breathed, and those are not two
different words. Yeah, God, however you want to translate it
from his Greek, God breathed, and that that means that

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that every word is inspired by God by the Holy Spirit.
What we get in scripture is exactly what God wanted
to say. But but often we've misunderstood what that inspiration means.
The the old word, like the technical theological word, is

(50:36):
pleinary verbal inspiration. And that's important because when you think
about inspiration, you think, well, what is it forty different authors?
Is that just God's just dictating a voice where they're like,
thus says the Lord, I will do this, write it
down word for word. Sometimes the Bible has that. We

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know that there are some prophets in the Old Testament.
That's how God's speaks, Thus says the Lord. When you
see thus says the Lord, You're about to hear what
God said exactly. But every other word in scripture is
equally inspired through the personality of the one that's inspired
writing it. Meaning David doesn't write like Isaiah, right, and

(51:20):
Paul doesn't write like Matthew. They're very different, but all
of them equally inspired every word of it. The Bible
is the word of God. The Bible is not The
Bible doesn't just sound like the word of God. The
Bible isn't the inspired ideas of God or the general

(51:42):
rules or the general consensus of God. It is the
word of God. And so that means that the authors
weren't like typewriters. They were, as Peter says, you guys
noticed that in this last verse, in the verse twenty one,
carried along by the Holy Spirit. The authors of Scripture
men spoke from God as they were carried along that

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it's a nautical term that's talking about ships, where the
wind in the sails carried the ship. So that's what
it means to be carried along by the Holy Spirit.
Is the authors of the Bible were carried along, but
they maintained in His sovereignty. They maintained their personalities. Do

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you see the nuances of each person that's writing has
their own quirks, and their own analogies or illustrations, and
their own cultural influences. As they were seeing through their
personal world that they lived in, inspired by the Holy Spirit,
and God said exactly wanted what he wanted to say

(52:46):
word for word through that specific author in his worldview, right,
which is crazy. Genesis does not sound like Jeremiah, does
not sound like Psalm twenty three, does not sound like
Matthew eighteen, does not sound like Revelation twenty two. But

(53:08):
every word is inspired by God through the personality of
the writer, pleinary verbal inspiration that makes sense. Have you
guys ever wondered that, like, what, why? How is this
word of God? If I've heard MacArthur said one time,

(53:31):
who wrote Romans? I would ask you, mane man, I've
already put pressure on you once today? Who wrote the
Book of Romans?

Speaker 2 (53:43):
Is it not Paul?

Speaker 1 (53:45):
Was it Paul? Just Paul? If you're ever going to guess,
just say Paul, because he wrote a lot of Who
wrote the Book of Romans? Tyler, Well, it's a trick question.
Paul and Jesus, right, is that what you're saying? So
is it both yea, Jesus, Paul through Jesus Paul's the

(54:07):
one that wrote it down or the other way around?
Maybe too, Yahweh through Paul, you could say, you know,
because it wasn't just Yahweh speaking to us through the
Book of Romans, because Paul comes to play somewhere too.

(54:28):
Otherwise you take Paul out of it and it's just
Yahweh speaking and that's not the full story. Yahweh speaking
through Paul, And it's definitely not just Paul. That would
be heresy. Yeah, Paul himself says that all scriptures bread
that by God, and he's writ and Peter and the
second Peter in this letter says he he listened how

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Peter ends this. It's just funny to what we're just saying,
he says. He says, therefore, beloved, since you were waiting
for these things, for these be diligent to be found
by Him without spotter, blemish, and at peace and count
the patience of our Lord of Salvation. Just as our

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beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the
wisdom given him, as he does in all his letters.
When he speaks of these matters, there are some there
are some things in them that are hard to understand,
which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction,

(55:35):
as they do the other scriptures. So one thing Peter's
doing here is affirming Paul as a writer of scripture.
But he's also saying that Paul was carried along by
the Holy Spirit, and Peter was too. He's saying, I
was there. Don't doubt me, I was there. This is
very interesting stuff. Yeah, it's a rabbit hole that the

(55:58):
Bible invites anyone to come into this rabbital and chase
it as far as you want, you will never find
the end of it. That the most critical skeptics could
come to the Bible and not find the end of.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
It, and you can know all of the historical evidence
and still reject christ.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
Absolutely, there's no amount of evidence that I can use
to convince you that Christianity is true to convert you.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
That's absolutely right. The thing to understand, too, is that
all of these New Testament writers were killed for what
they believe to be true here, which is an interesting thing.
Their eyewitnesses and that written in the time of other
eyewitnesses writing after their beloved savior died. Their religion at

(56:53):
that point only accelerated, it didn't die. It Almost always
when you have a cult leader comes up and the
cult leader dies, that the religion dies with it. But
not in the case of this. That doesn't make any
sense unless the Christ really did rise from the dead
and visit them. Because if he really rose from the

(57:14):
dead and the grave was empty, the tomb was empty,
and he visited them and spoke to them, then that
would make sense. That Stephen, that we'll start with Peter,
since he's the author of this letter, was crucified upside down,
and he walked right into it knowing that this was
going to happen. Stephen was stoned together in fact, and

(57:34):
he asked for that. Yeah, they were going to crucify him,
and he said, put me upside down. That's what that's
what tradition History, Historic tradition says. Stephen was stoned to death.
James was stabbed with the steward, Andrew was hung on across.
Nathaniel was skinned alive. James to half brother Jesus was
thrown off the temple and then beaten with clubs. That's
the one we're just talking about. James, for the guy
that talked about Lord Willing has thrown off the top

(57:56):
of the temple several times. History says until he was
in really bad shape and he still wasn't dead, so
they just beat him with clubs. Fattius was beaten and
then crucified. Matthew was speared and staked to the ground.
Philip was tortured with iron hooks and then hung upside
down until he died. Simon was crucified and then sawn
in two. Thomas was stabbed with a spear. Matthias was

(58:19):
stoned and beheaded. Paul, who wrote most of the New
Testaments we talked about, was beheaded by Nero in Rome.
And that was the same emperor that killed Peter. Soon after,
Nero let the entire city on fire, blamed the Christians
for this, and then hunted them down like dogs and
killed them one by one and fed them to lions,
covered them, and when he fed them the lions, he
covered them in skin and then fed them to the lions.

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The lions were hungry. Some of them he covered in
wax and lit them on fire. They were called Roman candles,
and placed he would have garden parties like little events entertainment,
And they put all these Christians up on the walls,
covered in wax and just burned them, and that was
the light for his party. This happened quite a bit.
He hung them on crosses and lined the roads all

(59:02):
the way in and out of the town of Rome,
so that you would know, if you came into Rome,
don't be like these people. And if you left Rome,
remember don't be like these people. That was the reality
of Christians for the first three hundred years until Constantine.
After christ People may lie for comfort, people may lie
for money, people may lie for power, but they will

(59:25):
rarely die for what they know is a lie. So
you have to everything we've said in this podcast. You
have to also consider that everyone that wrote these things
lost everything, their families, their livelihoods, their jobs, their kids.

(59:45):
They lost it all for what they believe was true,
for what they wrote down for us then to receive.
And we've already made the argument that what they wrote
down we could trust was what they really wrote down
and was not changed and manipulated. So it all comes
down to us going, I have to wrestle with this myself,

(01:00:05):
because if what they're saying is true, this changes everything.
And they certainly believed it was true, or they wouldn't
have gone through this horrific horror. And that wasn't it.
I mean, that wasn't the end of it. As we know.
Two thousand years after that, there's a history of martyrdom
over and over and over. Yeah, some of them are
hanging in my pictures, are hanging in my stairwell up

(01:00:29):
to this studio. William Tindall, You guys remember William Tindall.
I was trying to translate the Bible. We mentioned him
the other day, trying to translate the Bible into English
because he people couldn't speak Latin and the Bible was
only in Latin, and he just thought, Yeah, people couldn't

(01:00:49):
read Latin, and he just thought that people should, the
common people should know the word of God in their
common language.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
That was.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
Something that he was willing to risk his whole life for.
And he got into this conversation, History says, with a
church official who told him to Tindell as he was
making this argument, I think people should be able to speak.
I read the Bible in the language I speak. And
he was this church official, according to History, says it

(01:01:24):
would be better for us to be without God's law
than without the popes. And to that Tyndell responded famously
in History, if God spare my life ere many years,
I will cause a boy that driveth the plow to
know more of the Scripture than thou dost. That's in

(01:01:46):
him in a really, really bad place against the Church
because translating the Bible in the English was illegal, and
he had to flee. He was on the run for
most of his life after this, going and hiding making
copies working. You imagine this candle light slowly working, using
the Greek and translating into English, smuggling the copies in

(01:02:10):
like bales of cloth and barrels of grain back into England,
everyone trying to the authorities were trying to stop it,
and people were seized. If you got caught with this,
you're dead. They're going to kill you for this. But
it kept on spreading until one day he was finally caught, betrayed, arrested,

(01:02:31):
imprisoned in Belgium, and then after a year of imprisonment,
he was taken outside the city in fifteen thirty six,
strangled and burned at the stake, and he finally his
final recorded words as the flames lapped up to his face,
as he's on that steak, he said, Lord opened the

(01:02:52):
King of England's eyes, and he died. And with just
a few years his prayer was answered. And there was
a man, the King of England named James, who officially
commissioned that Tyndale's work be looked at and translated for
the common Tongue, which is the creation of the King

(01:03:16):
James Bible. It is estimated now that eighty to ninety
percent of the New Testament of the King James New
Testament traces back to Tyndale's work on the run in
that candle light, all by himself, and that amazing, that's

(01:03:39):
that's incredible credible.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Yeah, people will.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
Say too that today there are more martyrs for Christ
today in our time than all of those years combined, really.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
Over the world.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
Yeah, because of the mass number of deaths. It's good stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
It's great.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
Could I bring up something. There was a comment to this,
because we don't ever want to leave this podcast without
the Gospel, and we were looking through some comments from
last week and I ran across one. So in light
of everything we've said, right, everything that we've said about

(01:04:29):
the Bible, get this comment from Aaron from Hannibal, Missouri.
He says this, I am a l CMS Lutheran from Hannibal, Missouri.
First of all, I am a sinner. Secondly, I was
baptized as a baby. Religion was taught to me all

(01:04:50):
my youth that I ran from God, I ran towards
worldly things. I believe I was saved even before I
was baptized, which you said as a baby. I try
to be a patient. Excuse me, I try to be
a penitent man by asking for forgiveness from God daily.

(01:05:11):
But I am saved daily in that ask So I
am so I am saved daily in that aspect. Thank
you for the podcast. I want to say to Aaron,
because this is a great transit, trans transition as we
think about the end of this pod that you cannot

(01:05:31):
be saved by being a penitent man. You cannot be
saved by asking for forgiveness from God daily. You cannot
be saved by being baptized. You cannot be saved by
saying a prayer. You cannot be saved by anything you do, can't.

(01:05:55):
And this is the gospel we have to know. We
are saved because Christ went to the cross and took
sin on himself. He took on the punishment that we
deserved as being rebels, like Aaron says, from running from God.

(01:06:16):
This is damaged that cannot be done, and that ends
up all of us end up on death row for this.
And we are saved because Christ stepped in our place.
He became our substitute and died on the cross, so
that all who look to him would be saved, not
because of anything they've done, not even asking for forgiveness.

(01:06:39):
Christ secures salvation in the cross, and the people that
look to him in faith and trust that forgiveness as
we see as Christ is revealed in this Bible. We've
made an argument is reliable and illuminating and authoritative, all
that looked to Christ as revealed in this Bible, and

(01:07:00):
trust him and not in their own penitence. Aaron, I
hope that's you, brother. I hope, I hope that you're
not relying on your own penitence, because if you are,
you will be judged on that reliability, not the right
reliability that we see in this the Word of God,
that's the gospel.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
Amen.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
Yeah, any other comments? Yeah, we should read from last week.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
Joey said, I look forward to Monday every week when
the new episode comes out. I listen on my commute
to work, and I honestly feel like y'all are in
the truck with me, just like you always said in
the old podcast. It looking forward next week. Joey is
from North Georgia. David said, we blame the algorithm so often,
but this episode showed up for me, and I'm so thankful.
Love ninety nine for one name and the real conversations

(01:07:51):
you guys are having and we love having you. David.
Matt said, love the podcast. My wife and I can't
wait until Monday to see what the new episode will
be about. Walt from Little Rock, Arkansas. Good stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
So we asked last week for people to comment on
our YouTube page and comment some ideas for new topics,
and I loved those answers, so thank you for those.
We kept a bunch of them. A bunch of them
ended up being really good questions that I think we
should just answer in general that I think some people thought, hey,

(01:08:26):
can you make a whole podcast on this? And when
I read it, I thought, maybe not, But we could
answer that question for you and just run around the
horn here. So do that again. If you have a
question or if you want to hear us talk about
a subject, go to the YouTube page ninety nine for

(01:08:47):
one the podcast and comment that which leads us to
the book giveaway this week. Because we're also going to
give away a book, and last week's was for a Bible.
Last week's was for a Bible. We're back to a
regular book that's not inspired, but that's encouraging. This one
is called Who Chose the Gospels? Probing the Great Gospel

(01:09:10):
Conspiracy by ce Hill. Excellent book, and it talks about
a subject that we didn't get into today, and that is, well,
what do we do? Like why do we have Matthew Mark,
Luke John, why do we have Why do we have
those four? What about the Gospel of Mary, the Gospel
of Thomas, the Gospel of Peter?

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
Are else Enoch?

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
Were all these books? And wasn't it Granger? I heard
everything you said about we could trust the manuscripts and
the the time and the language. I heard all that,
But weren't there more books that then got left out?
So that was where the king comes in who wants
who has power and says I'm not I'm gonna I'm

(01:09:51):
gonna leave these books out because this makes me look
better or whatever. The argument is, what do we do
with that? Well, that's a whole different podcast, and we
can make great We could have a great conversation about that,
and those answers are a lot simpler than you think.
But this is an awesome book. Who chose the Gospels?

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
And it?

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
Man, it has like a surprise ending. It's really good.
I haven't read this in a few years, but Parker.
Parker's like, don't you have any good books about this stuff?
And I remembered that this one's great And if anyone
wants to get a hold of this one, it's going
to talk about a lot of the things we talked
about today. Comment below, who chose the gospels, who chose

(01:10:36):
the gospels, who chose the gospels, who chose the Gospels?
And then we will give this book away. Cayden will
pick a winner, will sign this and give it away.
Excellent book. And I will say that this is not
that you could trust this book. I want to say

(01:10:56):
that you could trust anything we give from this podcast.
But this, this is not some crazy conspiracy. It ends
up being the Gospels were always always recognized by the
early Church and people before that were these four Gospels
were always recognized, and you could date it all the

(01:11:17):
way back to the end of the Apostles themselves, specifically John,
the apostle John. So it wasn't it wasn't that that
one person chose them, or that it wasn't that the
Council of Nicia got together and said, here's here's what
we're going to choose. It was that when they got
together and the canon was finalized, it was affirming what
was already recognized, right as the four Gospels and the

(01:11:41):
sixty six books, which Isaiah, by the way, has sixty
six chapters thirty nine or the first half of Isaiah
twenty seven in the second exactly like our old New Testament.
First one largely about law. Second one largely about the
redemption of the law. That's another topic, maybe for another

(01:12:04):
another day. Are we we're already long? I've already talked
too much. See I stayed up till two thirty in
the morning, and I still talk too much on the podcast. Yeah,
any anything else? Can we miss anything?

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
Know that if any of the books that we talk
about here too, if you go to nine nine four
one the podcast dot com all the books that we
talk about, and then once we give away, you can
also purchase there.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
We'll just put links for you. Make it easy. Cool stuff.
Love you guys, See you next Monday. Yigh, Lord willing

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