March 9, 2026 • 52 mins
In this episode of the 9941 Podcast, the team tackles the rapidly unfolding conflict involving Iran, Israel, and the United States, discussing the military events, political implications, and spiritual realities surrounding the situation. Joined by special guests Travis and Ed—who has deep ties to Iran—the conversation explores the long history of Iran’s regime, the global impact of its support for terrorism, and why recent events could signal a turning point in the Middle East.
But this episode goes beyond headlines. Through a biblical lens, the discussion examines how believers should respond to war, geopolitical tensions, and global instability. The group also highlights an astonishing development many Western Christians may not know about: the underground church in Iran is one of the fastest-growing Christian movements in the world, with millions exploring the gospel despite persecution.
What role should the Western church play? How can believers pray for the Iranian people? And could these events open the door for greater gospel influence in a region long closed to Christianity?
This episode seeks to equip believers to think biblically about global conflict, pray wisely for Iran, and remember that even in the middle of war, God is still advancing His kingdom.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up. I'm Granger. Hey, I'm the air man, I'm Tyler,
I'm Parker. It's the ninety nine for one podcast where
we hope to seek the one and equip the ninety
nine to do the same. Comes from the Parable of
the Lost Sheep in Luke fifteen. Interesting topic today and
what's the real war in Iran? A lot of talks
about this, and I hesitate to really make a video
that's timely because things change so quickly. Yeah, but I
(00:24):
think it also is something we just have to address.
We want to be a podcast that helps people think
through things. We're not going to be a news outlet.
We're not going to give you breaking information. We just
want to help think through things. Now, we're Christians, so
we want to we want to always use the Bible
(00:45):
as our guide as as the lens that we see
everything else with. Without that lens, we're we're seeing, uh,
we're seeing worldly things from our own eyes that we
could always deceive ourselves with. So we want to go
back again to the word. So with that said, we
(01:06):
when we see what has happened as we record this
podcast just a few days ago, as this podcast comes
out six days from now, we First of all, we
have two guests coming. Yeah, uh, dear brother Travis, who's
kind a friend of the podcast and with the looking
up for him ministries. And then we have Ed. I
don't I don't even know Ed's last name or where
he comes from, besides the fact that he has deep
(01:29):
ties and he ran and he's a running and he's running.
So we're gonna we're gonna bring these two guys just
to to have a little roundtable discussion before they get
on here. Though, let's set the stage. What happened over
the last few days was crazy, right. Did you guys
keep up with with the like the actual attack itself?
(01:51):
I did?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
And I also thought I remembered back to when the
Gulf War happened and kind of, you know, everybody went
home after a day. Well, at the beginning, it was
kind of sitting around had TVs where you didn't normally
have TVs to keep up to date with it. But
then you go home and you catch up on everything
that went on the day. I thought about how crazy
it has changed. It's instant this happened and you know
(02:15):
about it.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
So I saw today, how did you find out about
it on social media? With social media. I haven't seen anything. Really,
this is all new to you. That's even more fun.
Absolutely nothing. Okay, well that's it, that's even more But
(02:35):
I mean was in our pastoral prayer on Sunday. We
prayed all through it. Oh you were there. Yeah. And
as elders, we keep up with these things. We like,
we're you know, because we have to know how can
we be praying, how can we be working through things,
you know with.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
The church, or and how do you do that Twitter?
I'm assuming how do we know the information? Yeah, I
mean he's at social media.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
So okay, So it's on every podcast right now, it's
I get it. I get the Morning Brew. So it
came out, you know, right there.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Every political probably podcast because not none of the podcasts I'm.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Talking about Christian. Yeah. I only listened to Christian podcasts.
It's the only kind of podcasts I listened to.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
It.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
It's been all around al but but so what happened
was you really don't know any of this? Okay? Great,
So Iran has had this dictatorship regime since nineteen seventy nine.
They've been the the hub of terrorism all over the world.
Since then. They have funded everything Hesbala Amas. They they
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have murdered tens and tens of thousands of people. My
friend Mohammad who's was converted, you know, he came to
he came to hear his preach and he was converted.
He's he's a Christian. Now you live just down the
road here or two hours. But I texted him today.
We're talking about it, and he's talking about the forty
(04:07):
thousand people that were murdered just recently, so out of
nowhere to all of us, the US and Israel and
ay In the the most strategic and the most coordinated
unilateral attack ever in the history of warfare. Happened in
(04:27):
broad daylight on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
You should share the video you shared with me because
it was fascinating. Parker shared it with me, Is that right? Okay,
So you're the only one who hasn't seen the video.
It was It showed how they how they planned it,
that everything happened within ten seconds of each other.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
And some say even down to the second. There were
bombs coming from the south from the the all of
our carrier you know, you know that we've been moving
all our carriers out there right they're in the Mediterranean. Okay,
that's cool. So we launched the most strategic the the
I mean this this it's insane what these bombs hit
(05:10):
within the second of each other.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
It was like one of the biggest US strategic military
attacks and like since like the early nineties, since like
the Goal.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
War, but but even way more than the golf as
far as the technology and the the and we're also
it was alongside of Israel. So Israel. I've just heard
today that we don't know exactly how they found out,
but the leadership of Iran the the I did it
was at the Almolder today. You know what it was.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Theyre street cams. Street cams. Yeah, they have hacked.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
The street street cam for years, and they saw when
all the leadership was in was in one meeting underground
in the bunker, and that they had been watching them
for years Israel with the and the CIA. I mean
you talk watch them at stock light James Bond type stuff. Yeah,
I mean, this stuff is crazy. It's beyond any of
(06:06):
the craziest movies we've ever seen. What just happened.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
They would they would take it encrypt the pictures of
their face and their driver's face so that when they
see their driver pull up to a red light or
driving around town. They it would register, Oh that's him,
that would hear this is where he was on this
date at this time.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, once again we are This podcast is not a
news no, no, no, no, we're just we're just some dudes talking
about this. But it was in there will be a
movie come out after There's gonna be a movie. So
they're all in their meeting. There's like forty of the
leaders and it set off a green light go and
all these aircraft carriers and Israel sent.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
How many hundreds of jets said multiple dozen. I thought
there's like a there's like eighty or it's like seventy
eighty come from Israel. The US launches.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I mean we're talking F eighteens, F twenty two's, F fifteen's,
and each are doing their own task. B two bombers
depart from Missouri. This is one of the craziest things.
The big Bunker busters, the big boy bombs that just
went deep in the earth and just plummeted everything. They
had came from Missouri. That means there was four of them,
(07:18):
I think, and they take off from Missouri just you know,
kiss their wives goodbye. They got a call to go
to work. They don't know where they're going or why,
or what's loaded in these planes. They take off, Unlike
Paul wouldn't find the B twenty four that just was
living in wartime. They take off from Missouri and they
go a thirty six hour round trip, drop these bombs
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and come back and they're eating spaghetti with their wife
that night and getting the kids from soccer practice. So
we're just in a conflict. That's war. It's not a war. No,
it's an all out I mean.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Google war. It says we're not in a war. It
just says conflict. So it's like, what's the definition of
being an a war? They I heard just yesterday, So
the US is declared war. You're saying that I heard
just yesterday, call it war.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
We're in World War three? No war?
Speaker 6 (08:03):
In a war?
Speaker 7 (08:03):
So what war do you want to call it? The
last war? War two called Epic Fury. That was the
title of the operational Epic Fury. And so what's the
war called? They'll title, they'll give it a name.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I mean, so this is the first war we've been
in since World War Two? No, no Desert Storm. I
mean those wars are coact freedom. Actually, what's the difference.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
While the US has been involved in many conflicts since
June of nineteen forty two, which is the last time
that the US Congress formally declared war, they have nineteen
forty two, We've been inother conflicts including Korea, Vietnam, I Rock,
and Afghanistans.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
These that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
These were conducted by authorization for use of military force,
not war authorization of US use of military force.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
That still, what's the difference in So we changed, we changed.
The Department of the Secretary or the Department of Defense
is now called the Department of War. Do you see. Yeah,
Trump changed. That's when Trump went back in the Department
of the the Department of Events. He changed. He's like,
I don't want that name anymore where the department. He
did that with the Gulf of Mexico, So like, what
is that real or not? Well, you know, so you
(09:12):
should see what they did. It's it's absolutely I geek
out of this stuff. But what they did with Israel.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Yeah, just look up the YouTuber Ai Telly, that's his name,
ail A T.
Speaker 8 (09:25):
T e L.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I showed London. I showed London last night and she
was like eyes wide open, just couldn't believe the planning
and the strategy. And I mean from the dru from
the like the drones that went up that were decoys.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
They see like three hundred decoy drones and that looked
like three hundred f thirty fives coming straight for their capital.
So their whole like system, their whole government went into
a panic because they thought there was like hundreds of
f thirty fives heading straight for their.
Speaker 8 (09:53):
Capital to destroy them. But it was just a decoy.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
And then, like like Ant said, they've hat like all
these cyber attacks going on. They're hacking their systems to
make their radar, so they were they were like in
a matter of minutes.
Speaker 8 (10:05):
They were just in complete confusion.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
And then you have multiple aircraft carriers sending Tomahawk missiles
from different oceans in different parts of the world, all
while B two bombers are overhead like thousands of miles
in the air. We have other like patrolling jets that
are like sending out signals, signals, hacking things from below.
And then all coordinated with Israel, who has like dozens
(10:29):
of fighter jets that are coming.
Speaker 8 (10:30):
It's insane.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Sure, there's two hundred two hundred from Israel. Three five
hundred jets are in the air over Iran, which is
larger than the state of Texas, So it's a big
it's a lot of ground to cover. But they all
hit within a second, so no one. No one saw
it coming, no one. These these people were in the
(10:53):
meeting drinking their tea. Man, just boom, they're gone.
Speaker 8 (10:57):
Kind of reminds me of Jesus coming back.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, man, like that gone. I mean they were they
had no idea. So then what happens is the Iranian
government that was still alive, I mean so much of
it's flattened. The parts that were still alive launched defense
like missiles, and they hit Dubai, they hit Saudi Arabia,
(11:22):
they hit Turkey, they hit Israel, they hit all their
that used to be their friends because they were mad
at the US. Apparently they wanted to get the US
bases because they hate, you know, death to America. That's
what they've been chanting for forty years. They so they
send all these missiles out and and the UAE's like,
(11:44):
what do you got on us? Saudi Arabia is like,
what are you doing to us? So then they they
joined the fight. So everyone turns against Iran. So Britain,
Britain's got all airplates on standby, Like I heard the
Prime Minister and he's like, we're We've got jets in
the air. Britain will join this, and so everyone standing
(12:06):
up against the bully Iran. The whole thing is, and
we'll get to the point of the podcast. They they're
trying they've been trying to enrich uranium because they want
nuclear weapons. And not only that, but they want the
cruise missiles to fly them. The Inner Balists what do
you call those those big old missile what ICBMs? They
(12:27):
want the ICBMs to take the nukes right to America
and Israel and anyone else. They did that they ideologically
don't like. So we have Ed and Travis joining us.
How should we think about the events that have unfolded?
Is this is this not a big deal? Is this
a very big deal? Is this connected to UH October seventh?
(12:51):
Is this just another meaningless battle war in the Middle
East that America should not be involved in. Well, let's
start with that.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
Can I go first ed for a little bit? Can
I set the background? Okay, so this has been building
for a while. Iran is the mother of all terrorism
in the globe, and there's been lots of tension for
years between them and pretty much everybody else except their
(13:22):
proxies and most of the terror attacks. I'd say the
vast majority. ED could probably touch on this that have
happened in the last decade, have you a relationship to Iran?
And so the October seventh as an example that there
was an Iranian strength behind what happened in Israel and
that massacre that was there. They're in Hesbelah, They're behind
(13:44):
the Hesbela rockets into Israel. There behind the the suicide
bombers that are occurring or the suicide terrorists that are
occurring around the world. So it's everybody's known it, but
we've just haven't. You know, who wants to start a war.
Nobody wants to start a war. And tell the Iranian
(14:05):
people finally said, well, in talking to our analysts, ED
and I were talking to an analyst, a government analyst
the other day, until they reached the point of fatalism.
M that's what happened when the protests began.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Tell tell you what that means. What do you mean
by fatalism?
Speaker 6 (14:26):
Fatalism is when you don't care if they kill you.
You've lost so much that dying is the same as
living to you. And so suddenly the fear of being
killed is no longer a motivation to do or not do.
And so what happened It started a while back, and
(14:49):
maybe I could dress this too. The universities began in
their and their limited ability to interact with the Internet.
That started to kind of create a difficulty inside the universities,
and it grew and eventually there was a there was
a moment in time when a woman was harmed that
(15:09):
set the country on fire for a predo time. And
there's protests, a small, if you will, early tremors of
protests in Iran, but this last one, they came out
by the tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of protesters,
and internally the pressure became so hot that the Iranian regime,
(15:31):
the under the supreme leader, the Ayatola, just massacred them.
And we'll hear some stories about that. And the numbers
that you hear officially the lowest the lowest number would
be they've killed thirty thousand of their own people. The
highest number would be over one hundred thousand dead and
(15:54):
one hundred thousand wounded. That is a significant number of people.
And honestly, at that point in time, with the current
US administration, we have like Donald Trump, don't like Donald Trump,
it doesn't matter. He is somebody who cares about these things.
And when that occurred, and suddenly the entire world was,
(16:19):
if you will, against Iran's actions. Now was the time
to act, and if there was ever going to be
a regime change, it would happen now because the people
want it, the Iranian We are not attacking the Iranians.
We are toppling an evil regime and giving what's the
(16:41):
phrase and life, liberty and women freedom, something along those everywhere.
And so that's what's occurring here now. What doesn't have
obviously other implications politically, yes, the oil, yes, the stability
in the Middle East, yes, peace for our allies, all
(17:01):
that's in there. But the catalyst was the Iranian people.
And I would really like to get Ed's take on this,
and then Ed, if you could chat about what happened
with satellite TV, that is very profound. What happened with
satellite TV. Ed is a as a director of a
(17:23):
several satellite channels that go into Iran, and so could
you share maybe a little bit ed.
Speaker 9 (17:30):
So with any evil empire and evil government, there's always
the word of gossip. Where sin abounds, grace abounds. Uh So,
Iran has also been the cradle of a brand new
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revival of Christianity in the Middle East. It's the fastest
growing in the world today that is happening in Iran.
Literally one hundreds and thousands of Iranians are leaving Islam
and embracing Christ and the message of the Gospel.
Speaker 6 (18:11):
So we've got twenty annual growth brother, twenty percent annual
growth operation world growth Iranians, it's seen twenty percent.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Right, America's going the other way.
Speaker 9 (18:26):
Unfortunately, we take things for granted and complacency is the
enemy of our faith. Before the nineteen seventy nine revolution,
there were estimates of about only five hundred converted born
against Christians of Iranian background Muslim background. That was nineteen
seventy nine, So we're not even fifty years into this story,
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and estimates tell us that it could be upward the
five million born against Christians or Iranians have do have
very strong affinity and gravitation towards Christianity kind of like
ripe fruit on a tree. So we started a satellite
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ministry in twenty and fourteen twenty fifteen that has now
become three statellite channels. Our channel one is our conventional preaching, teaching,
evangelistic channel, where we share the gospel different speakers. Different
hosts share the gospel, whether they're English speakers or Farsi speakers.
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We have the facility to translate for the English speakers.
The second channel is our academic channel where we broadcast
twenty four to seven theology apologetics documentaries on biblical archaeology, science,
and Christianity. Most of that in collaboration with Trinity College
(19:58):
of the Bible and Theological Seminary Indiana and Reasons to
Believe in Los Angeles. We take their content translate them
into Farsi. So all the videos from the lectures that
the props do in Trinity or scientists are all dubbed
into Farsi. And that's twenty four to seven sending these
(20:22):
programs on Channel two. The reason we did Channel two
is because sixty eight percent of the Iranian population is
under the age of thirty five.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
These are young men.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Women, profound You guys, that is profound.
Speaker 9 (20:37):
These are young men and women, highly educated, university educated,
very aware of what is happening in the world through Internet.
They don't like pulpit preachers anymore. They don't want Christianity
from a pulpit. They want Christianity from a podcast, debates, presentations, arguments,
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evidence and compatibility between the Biblical narrative and science and philosophy,
et cetera. So Channel two is our academic channel, particularly
and specifically reaching out to that segment of Iranian society
which are most likely under the age of forty and
they're very curious, very much seeker through a different system,
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not the pulpit system, but the presentation and argument and
logical system. Channel three is our worship channel where we
launched two years ago and we have over three thousand
worship songs, mostly composed and arranged by Uranian worship leaders
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and some from English, Spanish and other languages subtitled and
we broadcast at twenty four to seven.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
Now.
Speaker 9 (21:54):
We believe worship will play a very very big role
in the space over Iran. You know, in the war
signs of war usually you send your paratroopers and aircraft
to soften the enemy's positions before the ground troops come in.
(22:17):
I believe worship is doing exactly that. It softens the
enemy strongholds and releases people's captivity by worship so that
they can hear the gospel, they can respond to the gospel.
So each of these channels currently have a viewing audience
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of approximately four to six million people.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Per day per channel.
Speaker 9 (22:46):
If you take an average, you're looking at about five
million viewers for each of these three channels per day,
and that means a lot because five million viewers probably
represents about million people in households, because every person watching
there are probably three or four people that are members
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of the household. So these are the nation.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
And time of the uprising.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
My question is when when the we hear about the
Internet going off but satellite can't be touched, is that?
What is that kind of what you're pushing here?
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Come on ed, tell them about the uptick.
Speaker 9 (23:27):
Exactly done, Exactly Internet went down. We used to have
our call center where people would contact us through WhatsApp
in our live broadcast in our studios, and obviously that stopped,
but we still continue to broadcast. But satellite does not
have that problem. Because the Islamic Republic uses the same
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satellite channels UH to broadcast their channels on propaganda, So
obviously they're not going to hit the satellite because it's
going to hit them. Right there, we are on satellite
twenty four to seven, no interruptions, no disruptions, and we're
just freely and comfortably broadcasting these programs. And that is
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why there is such a high reception. During the time
that these things were happening. In January, our viewership went
up to as high as seventeen million people because internets
went down. Now seventeen million is almost twenty five percent
of the Iranian population. Inside Iran, we're at some point
(24:39):
watching Christian programming.
Speaker 6 (24:41):
That locked in their houses. The power of the Holy
Speriment locked them in their houses and they were stuck there,
no internet, no ability to call each other. They were
just they were under curfew. They couldn't leave. They're all
sitting in their houses and somebody says, well, we have
satellite TV, and so they click it on and there
they are. Literally the Supreme Leader forced them all to
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hear the gospel.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
That's the Lord, what they God meant for good, that's right. Yeah,
So these are incredible numbers. For people that are trying
to think through these they say, Canadians, Americans, people in
the West, how do we think through these things? Because
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something that was not mentioned earlier, Travis was the nuclear
capabilities of Iran, because that actually does affect us directly,
regardless of your religious view, your political view. If if
they if they enrich uranium, that's a bad thing for
a lot of people. Right, they will use it.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
They're the country that you can be sure will use it.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Yeah, probably starting with Israel.
Speaker 6 (25:58):
Well, depends on what kind of a rocket they have.
It may not be Israel. They may use it on
the the whatever geographic location they can reach to carry
that warhead. They're really get a lot.
Speaker 9 (26:13):
Of their they get a lot of their technology from
North Korea form the missile technology and China obviously, but
as you know, North Korea is constantly trying to develop
it intercontinental ballistics so that it can reach the US shores.
So if they get their hands on that kind of
a technology, it is not far fetched for them to
(26:36):
even hit Europe and even beyond. So definitely it's something
that I think they've already enriched. There's already there's plenty
of enriched uranium that they're storing, and they're just waiting
for the right technology to be able to carry these
into the targets that they're looking for. So you asked
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the question in the beginning about what happened a few
days ago and whether there's a significance to it. I
think I never never expected in my lifetime that I
would witness a second revolution. I saw the nineteen seventy
nine revolution and it was a heartbreaker. It was truly
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a tragedy that we were on the path to become
one of the most industrialized and civilized and progressive nations
on the Asian map in the world, and it was
completely stopped and regression happened back to the Middle Ages
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of Europe, similar to that the Middle Ages of Asia.
And I would never have believed my eyes that I
would again see a revolution happening. And this is a
very very significant event in history. Leave the situation that
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is continuing to progress hopefully towards a complete change of
regime and the introduction of a democratic government and freeing
people from the tyranny of forty seven years of captivity
under Islamic tyranny. It's a significant milestone in history. So
(28:22):
we should not underestimate it.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Now.
Speaker 9 (28:24):
Did October seventh player role, Well, I think it's just
a collection of number of things that have happened, not
just one event. October seven was one, perhaps maybe, as
the expression goes, the straw that broke the camel's back.
But I think there's been a series of events. For
forty seven years. This government has constantly tried to bring disruption.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
And terror and.
Speaker 9 (28:52):
Evil schemes that would threaten people's lives and security. So
this was finally the last event that I think would
lead to a complete change of dynamics in the Middle East.
And you know, we were at a meeting with provis
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A few days ago and we were discussing this thing,
and I said, one of the things that we need
to do is not just to hope and pray for
a regime change would probably happen very soon, but we
also should be looking forward to a long term the
Islamization of Iran. We need to get rid of Islam
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as a wholesale ideology and belief, starting with Iran, because
it will have a ripple effect in the Middle East.
The Islamization of a place like Iran must be accompanied
with the political landscape cannot have only a change of regime.
The government goes, but ninety minutes people are still very
(30:02):
much stuck with that superstitious false beliefs that they have,
which will still be very vulnerable to be triggered by
another religious uprising that would bring them back on the
same page again. So I think the West, the Church,
(30:22):
particularly the Church, needs to have a very clear strategy
of helping Iranian people be freed from Islam by presenting
the Gospel as beautifully, as radiantly, as transparently as possible,
and at the same time show them the dangers of
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Islam in their lives. You know, I was just telling Travis,
I think yesterday, when you buy a pack of cigarette,
they show you on the pack, at least in Canada,
I think the US the same. They show you a
picture of an infected lung, a dead man's lung, or
the mouth with all cancer and it rights at the
(31:04):
back of the pack of cigarette. Smoking kill kills you,
will kill you. I think we should have a message
for Iran. Islam is going to destroy you. You've got
to get rid of this addiction to this religion, and
the only people that can do that is the church.
By presenting Christ as such a visible and such a
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beautiful representation of love and grace coming from God that
people will abandon that false religion and captivity to the
devil himself.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Yeah, which we don't have to add anymore to what
the Bible already shows them as glorious and beautiful. Travis
to that, to that point, what are some wrong ways
that the Western Church could could try to help.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
Well in our gathering that we are at, because because
actually Ed and I started talking a couple three weeks
back that something is coming. We were aware from our
sources something large was coming. It was inevitable, there was
going to be a regime change. We were convinced of that,
and so we began talking about exactly that. What is
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the best what's the next step? Ed has all these
contacts in Iran, among the Persian people, we have relationships
in the Middle East, You have relationships over there as well.
How can we coordinate? And so I just started throwing
out to people, no organizations to be mentioned, Hey, would
(32:42):
you like to talk about a response when this regime falls?
And man, we had a great turnout, Okay, In that
were people from Yemen, people from the United Arab Emirates,
people from Pakistan, people who were networking in Turkmenistan, and
(33:05):
all in Afghanistan and all those the whole area. And
they were all talking, and some of them were long
in the tooth, meaning they've been around a day or two,
unlike Ed and I are very young. And they remember
the collapse of the USSR. Now the church in Iran
is underground, right, It's it's hidden, it's it's in its
(33:29):
own private world, and it's about to be uncovered. That
seems so good, doesn't it. It seems like, get the underground
church out, let them be free in their worship. It
just sounds so good. And there's this and as Ed
has said, there's this deep hunger to know God. It's
the fastest growing church globally. Doesn't that all sound good? Except,
(33:53):
as you said jokingly, as the Iranian church is getting better,
the American churches collapsing, and what happens and happened in Russia.
Our guy from Yemen said, remember Russia when it was
unveiled or uncovered. Immediately they the Evangelicals, the Protestants just
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poured in and they poured in money, and they poured
in their teaching and their Western philosophies, and they just
destroyed the underground church. That's the view of the people
on the ground. They destroyed the underground church. False teachers
came out from everywhere, name it and claim it word faith,
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big crusades, and they began dividing, and it became a
way everyone started grabbing money. Because as our brother who's
in the Middle East yesterday spoke on a different program,
he said, Uh, Westerners, especially Americans, they're so generous. They're
just not wise in how they invest, and so they're
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willing to give. And we're the most generous country in
the world, hands down, the United States is so we
want to respond. And Christians are the most generous of
the generous, and they want to give, but they don't
do it wisely or using discernment, and so they start
pouring money in and fraud just rose rose and rose,
(35:25):
and the greedy wolves, the pastor wolves, started taking and
began pocketing, and they began getting rich. And it was
and it became so bad. This I did not know,
but my friends shared with me became so bad in
the now Russia that the Russian government propped up the
Orthodox Church. They actually propped it up, not because they
(35:49):
were more religious, but because they needed to keep the
evangelicals from destroying themselves, so they chose the orthodox and
established and gave it authority and power to keep the
evangelicals from just destroying the spiritual nature of their country.
(36:09):
And so the warning was, in fact, it caught me
totally off guard. The warning was this is the words. I'
lets see if I can get the words, see if
you can remember ed he said, we the church are
the greatest detriment to the church. Something along those lines.
(36:32):
He said, we must get the message out. Please, don't
just send your money in. Don't fund every person who
has ever thought about a wonderful adventure into Iran. Find
established ministries that have been there, working with the underground church,
(36:54):
who are not greedy, who have sound doctrine. That's the
first worn from our missionaries. Find. Don't just give money.
I don't care if a beautiful video comes on your
TV and you see all these hungry kids in this
war torn country. Don't send your money. Find an organization
that's trustable and actually doctrinally sound fund them. We do
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need money. Ed'll talk about that. There's a need right now.
You can imagine in any war. But there's they're rationing
food and water because infrastructure is collapsing and there's going
to be need for rebuilding, and absolutely we need to
help them. First, John says, if you see your brother
in need and shut up your heart, the love of
God's not in you. So we want to do that.
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But do not just open your wallet and start throwing
it towards everybody who says I love Iran, and you
get a bumper sticker that says I help Iran, give
it to organizations that were already there. And then that's
the outside message. The inside message is discipleship. What we have, honestly,
(38:08):
and you've seen it too, Granger, I know you have.
What we have is a church that has been living
by the spirit. The Word of God is limited. They
don't all have a Bible. They're able to watch some
programming through satellite, but it's limited. It's not really discipleship
or doing the best we can remotely. Discipleship is really
(38:30):
face to face growth, personal growth. And so they've been.
They pray, they py, they love, they sacrifice.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
But the.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
Current understanding of scripture, I would say, is immature, but
it's not because they want it to be immature. It's
because they haven't had teachers. Ed's been looking for teachers
and he's been trying to throw teachers in that country
as much as possible, but it's remote. So the second
the first one is don't just throw your money at this.
(39:04):
The second one is for the inside of the church.
We've got to focus on discipleship now of the existing
church to protect them. This is horrible, to protect them
from the wolves from the west, the religious wolves from
the west. So what's going to happen. They're hungry, they're spiritually,
(39:28):
they're alive. They're able to say Jesus's name out loud
and raise their hands in public, and it's so exciting.
And a false teacher and I'm not going to name
any so you don't get in trouble. But a false
teacher comes in and puts on a crusade, a crusade brother,
and thousands upon thousands of people come because they want God.
(39:49):
And they see this guy who's dynamic, and he flies
in in on a jet and he's wearing this beautiful
outfit and he speaks so well, and they flock to him,
and he takes their money and he gives them a
false gospel and they're like, oh, we met God. We
met God. So they're taking those who are hungry for
(40:09):
the Lord, and they're giving them false teaching and reaping
as it says in Ezekiel thirty for eating the sheep,
not feeding the sheep, eating the sheep. And in Russia,
ministry is exploded and people got rich and the church
was destroyed.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
That's the warning. Well, guys, as we wrap this up, ed,
maybe we should do this again, you know, in a month,
because this thing might change so much. How could we
pray for Iran?
Speaker 9 (40:48):
As Travis beautifully described, I think we need to pray
first of all, for this current situation would come to
a conclusion very quickly. Those that need to be removed
and taken out of the picture on a wholesale basis
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would very rapidly be taken out, and the power structure
would collapse, so that people will have a time. You
need help from outside, and you need people from inside.
I mean, all you can do all the attacks you want,
but it comes a point where people now have to
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get out into the streets and take over the country.
So we need to pray for people to remain safe,
wisely act and the West to be able to fulfill
what they promised the running people. I like the fact
that Natanyahu made a very interesting statement. He said, two
(41:53):
five hundred years ago, the Persians saved the Jewish nation
by freeing them from the Babylonians and releasing them to
their land. And now after twenty five hundred years, it's
our turn. And you know what, something very interesting. I'll
say this, or maybe we'll bring it to a conclusion.
(42:14):
Twenty five hundred years ago there was Queen Esther that
sensed the danger through her uncle Mordecai, that the Jewish
people were about to be annihilated by hey Man. And
it was the Feast of Purim, the estrafast, which we're
right now about to celebrate. And to just imagine how
(42:37):
the coincidence, I call it divine incidents. Twenty five hundred
years later, again during the Feast of Purim. This time
it is not the Jewish people that are in danger
of destruction, but the Persians, and God is sending help rescue.
(42:59):
And that is what we need to pray for people
to be rescued and saved from other destruction and shame
and everything that is not really Persian, but the influence
of that religion but second thing we can pray is
the reconstruction and redevelopment and opening of the Gospel in Iran,
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along with what Pravat said, a very systematic, deliberate, well
designed scriptural discipleship of leaders who've been yearning to be
able to be trained. We have a seminary that we
run with Trinity College of the Bible and Theological Seminary
(43:42):
out of Indiana all translated into Farsi, and we have
three hundred plus students inside Iran, which means our future pastors, teachers,
evangelists are going to come out from the very people
that are currently studying at this particular institute US affiliated
with Trinity. Well, we need to pray for discipleship that
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people leaders, local pastors, these underground churches that are led
by men and women are going to be well trained
disciples so that they can take over the leadership of
the church rather than we send Westerners to come there
and try to impose Western style Christianity or Western style Churchianity.
(44:30):
For them to be truly connected directly to the scriptures,
the Holy Spirit, and the framework that we help them
develop for sound ministry, so that Irani is not going
to go the same path as Russia and some of
the other European nations when and in the process they
destroyed Christianity.
Speaker 6 (44:51):
Yeah yeah, Granger, I know you want to wrap up,
but it's a recording, right, so I can give you
a monologue here and you can take what you like.
I got to things I'd like to say before you
close us. Unless man fell asleep, No.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
We're all good. Yeah, what you got.
Speaker 6 (45:08):
Esther and Mordecai. We're able to rescue the people of
Israel and Persia because they received a letter that enabled
the people to defend themselves. That's the goal here. Israel
doesn't want to own Iran. The United States does not
(45:31):
want to own Iran. Again, and again we're hearing a
call from our president. Iranians, we are taking the teeth
out of the tiger. Now you must kill it. You
must rise. The Iranians must lead their country. And so
(45:51):
that's the prayer that Ed and US would have that
the Iranian people, who have sacrificed so much to get
to the point, who have pled with people, played with
nations to intervene, they're now intervening. They must rise. We
must have humble servant leaders from inside the country who
(46:13):
will lead them into freedom. That's one, because it'll be
a vacuum wide open for ungodly wicked leaders. Absolutely, we've
got to pray against that. And the second thing is
there's two scriptures that I just want to give. I
said it to our chat, but maybe it didn't go through.
But there is a mandate from the Lord to those
(46:37):
he calls the mighty ones translated gods, if you will
in Psalm eighty two, the whole controversial scripture, the judges,
the leaders, the mighty ones. He says to the mighty ones,
here is what you are supposed to do. And I
want granger right now. Honestly, the United States is the
only superpower I firmly believe in the world right now.
(47:00):
There are other powers, but there's only one like us.
Right now, we find ourselves alone, and there is a
mandate from the Lord to the mighty ones. This is it,
he commands and saw him eighty two to three. Defend
the poor and fatherless, do justice to the afflicted and needy,
Deliver the poor and needy, free them from the hand
(47:23):
of the wicked. And I firmly believe that's what we
need to be praying. God, you have told the mighty
ones to do this. We are the mighty ones. Please
lead our President, please lead all those involved, that we
might free them from the hand of the wicked. And
that is what the battle we need to engage in.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
Yeah. Amen, Amen. What changes nations and people groups and
societies and governments from the inside out is the gospel.
And we don't ever want to to have an episode
without the gospel. Parker, could you help us? Help us?
Speaker 4 (48:04):
What is the gospel? Gospel is the good news that
God created man to love him, to serve him, to
obey him forever. But all mankind has turned away from God.
That man is not morally neutral or deep down good,
that all men have gone astray and have turned away
(48:27):
from God. And because all mankind is turned away from
God and did not obey him, just like a good
judge in your local county doesn't let the guilty go unpunished,
So God on judgment day rightly will not let the
guilty those who reject Him and turn away from Him
go unpunished. And so all mankind is deserving of eternal
(48:47):
conscious punishment for their sin. But God not design that
anyone would perish, sent his son Jesus, who lived the
perfect life that we were supposed to live. He died
the death that we deserve on the cross, taking on
the good, just wrath of God in our place. And
three days later, after he was killed, he rose from
the grave, showing that he was who he said he was,
(49:08):
that God had accepted his sacrifice of him dying in
our place on our behalf, and now sits at the
right hand of God, calling all men to repent or
turn from our sin, to trust in his sacrifice alone
on the cross, so that on judgment Day, when we
stand before God and he says, why shall let you in?
It would not be because of anything good that we
(49:30):
have done, and we were all guilty before him, but
is because of Christ's perfect work on the cross that we.
Speaker 1 (49:36):
Might be saved. Amen. Amen, promised. We do a book
giveaway every episode. Grab this one. This is another very
short one. We're We're in a series of short ones,
aren't we. That's right? Thoughts for young men. J. C Ryle.
Any of you guys read this? Yes, I read it,
Kadin's read it off off camera, Parker's read it. I'm
(49:58):
trying to grab a date for this. Eighteen eighty eight,
eighteen eighty eight it's a it's a wonderful book. Amber.
Amber always nudges me when this book comes up and says,
and for women, it's good for women, So apparently it's
just as good for women. I haven't really thought of
it in that way, but yeah. So it's a great
(50:18):
meditation book on godly men, godly biblical men, which is
exactly what Travis was saying we need more of in
our discipleship efforts. And as promised, some comments, you guys
go to go to what is the name of it again?
The book?
Speaker 6 (50:36):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (50:36):
The book? Oh yeah, yeah, we got we gotta do.
We got to do a comment for that, leading to
the next idea thoughts for Young Men by j c Ryle.
How could we relate that with the Iranian conversation? The
comment is Christian men in Iran, we need Biblical men
in Iran.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
Okay, you comment that that gives you a chance to
win that book and we'll ship it to you. If
you'd like to just know what books that we've done
in the past, If you go to nine to nine
to one the podcast dot com, we have all the
books that we've done all up there, and in fact,
you when the latest episode comes out the book that
goes with that episode. So this episode's out now, the
(51:14):
book is directly underneath it. It has that book right there,
and then you can also see all.
Speaker 1 (51:19):
The other books as well. Click. That's really cool the link.
I'm looking at that right now.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
You just put it up. Yeah, and then browse all books.
You can see all the featured books that we've done
so far.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
That's so cool. And then you can click and buy
it on it and we don't make opinion on any
of there.
Speaker 2 (51:31):
That's even cooler. We're not promoting ourselves at all. Obviously,
Buy on Amazon and it'll take you right there.
Speaker 1 (51:38):
Oh that's so cool. Okay, So, speaking of comments, go
to the YouTube page which is ninety nine for one
the podcast on YouTube, and I'm gonna check some of
these comments. Go go and comment, Bip. We need biblical
men in Iran and tell us where you're from and
your name. For instance, last week we have Andrew from
Carlisle pau to Andrew. We have David says. I don't
(52:03):
usually tune in for topics. I tune in to be inspired.
And I love how Tyler says all things are created
for him and by him, visible and invisible. That inspires
me so much. Thank you, Tyler. Always a shout out
for Tyler. And then and then one more. Here we
have Trust the Bible from Magdalena and she says, another
(52:23):
great episode. Thank you for doing all that you do.
I love this podcast. Listening from Arkansas. That's awesome. Yeah,
thank you guys. That's all we have for today. We'll
see you next episode. Gyegee
What's up. I'm Granger. Hey, I'm the air man, I'm Tyler,
I'm Parker. It's the ninety nine for one podcast where
we hope to seek the one and equip the ninety
nine to do the same. Comes from the Parable of
the Lost Sheep in Luke fifteen. Interesting topic today and
what's the real war in Iran? A lot of talks
about this, and I hesitate to really make a video
that's timely because things change so quickly. Yeah, but I
(00:24):
think it also is something we just have to address.
We want to be a podcast that helps people think
through things. We're not going to be a news outlet.
We're not going to give you breaking information. We just
want to help think through things. Now, we're Christians, so
we want to we want to always use the Bible
(00:45):
as our guide as as the lens that we see
everything else with. Without that lens, we're we're seeing, uh,
we're seeing worldly things from our own eyes that we
could always deceive ourselves with. So we want to go
back again to the word. So with that said, we
(01:06):
when we see what has happened as we record this
podcast just a few days ago, as this podcast comes
out six days from now, we First of all, we
have two guests coming. Yeah, uh, dear brother Travis, who's
kind a friend of the podcast and with the looking
up for him ministries. And then we have Ed. I
don't I don't even know Ed's last name or where
he comes from, besides the fact that he has deep
(01:29):
ties and he ran and he's a running and he's running.
So we're gonna we're gonna bring these two guys just
to to have a little roundtable discussion before they get
on here. Though, let's set the stage. What happened over
the last few days was crazy, right. Did you guys
keep up with with the like the actual attack itself?
(01:51):
I did?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
And I also thought I remembered back to when the
Gulf War happened and kind of, you know, everybody went
home after a day. Well, at the beginning, it was
kind of sitting around had TVs where you didn't normally
have TVs to keep up to date with it. But
then you go home and you catch up on everything
that went on the day. I thought about how crazy
it has changed. It's instant this happened and you know
(02:15):
about it.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
So I saw today, how did you find out about
it on social media? With social media. I haven't seen anything. Really,
this is all new to you. That's even more fun.
Absolutely nothing. Okay, well that's it, that's even more But
(02:35):
I mean was in our pastoral prayer on Sunday. We
prayed all through it. Oh you were there. Yeah. And
as elders, we keep up with these things. We like,
we're you know, because we have to know how can
we be praying, how can we be working through things,
you know with.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
The church, or and how do you do that Twitter?
I'm assuming how do we know the information? Yeah, I
mean he's at social media.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
So okay, So it's on every podcast right now, it's
I get it. I get the Morning Brew. So it
came out, you know, right there.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Every political probably podcast because not none of the podcasts I'm.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Talking about Christian. Yeah. I only listened to Christian podcasts.
It's the only kind of podcasts I listened to.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
It.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
It's been all around al but but so what happened
was you really don't know any of this? Okay? Great,
So Iran has had this dictatorship regime since nineteen seventy nine.
They've been the the hub of terrorism all over the world.
Since then. They have funded everything Hesbala Amas. They they
(03:46):
have murdered tens and tens of thousands of people. My
friend Mohammad who's was converted, you know, he came to
he came to hear his preach and he was converted.
He's he's a Christian. Now you live just down the
road here or two hours. But I texted him today.
We're talking about it, and he's talking about the forty
(04:07):
thousand people that were murdered just recently, so out of
nowhere to all of us, the US and Israel and
ay In the the most strategic and the most coordinated
unilateral attack ever in the history of warfare. Happened in
(04:27):
broad daylight on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
You should share the video you shared with me because
it was fascinating. Parker shared it with me, Is that right? Okay,
So you're the only one who hasn't seen the video.
It was It showed how they how they planned it,
that everything happened within ten seconds of each other.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
And some say even down to the second. There were
bombs coming from the south from the the all of
our carrier you know, you know that we've been moving
all our carriers out there right they're in the Mediterranean. Okay,
that's cool. So we launched the most strategic the the
I mean this this it's insane what these bombs hit
(05:10):
within the second of each other.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
It was like one of the biggest US strategic military
attacks and like since like the early nineties, since like
the Goal.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
War, but but even way more than the golf as
far as the technology and the the and we're also
it was alongside of Israel. So Israel. I've just heard
today that we don't know exactly how they found out,
but the leadership of Iran the the I did it
was at the Almolder today. You know what it was.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Theyre street cams. Street cams. Yeah, they have hacked.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
The street street cam for years, and they saw when
all the leadership was in was in one meeting underground
in the bunker, and that they had been watching them
for years Israel with the and the CIA. I mean
you talk watch them at stock light James Bond type stuff. Yeah,
I mean, this stuff is crazy. It's beyond any of
(06:06):
the craziest movies we've ever seen. What just happened.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
They would they would take it encrypt the pictures of
their face and their driver's face so that when they
see their driver pull up to a red light or
driving around town. They it would register, Oh that's him,
that would hear this is where he was on this
date at this time.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, once again we are This podcast is not a
news no, no, no, no, we're just we're just some dudes talking
about this. But it was in there will be a
movie come out after There's gonna be a movie. So
they're all in their meeting. There's like forty of the
leaders and it set off a green light go and
all these aircraft carriers and Israel sent.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
How many hundreds of jets said multiple dozen. I thought
there's like a there's like eighty or it's like seventy
eighty come from Israel. The US launches.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I mean we're talking F eighteens, F twenty two's, F fifteen's,
and each are doing their own task. B two bombers
depart from Missouri. This is one of the craziest things.
The big Bunker busters, the big boy bombs that just
went deep in the earth and just plummeted everything. They
had came from Missouri. That means there was four of them,
(07:18):
I think, and they take off from Missouri just you know,
kiss their wives goodbye. They got a call to go
to work. They don't know where they're going or why,
or what's loaded in these planes. They take off, Unlike
Paul wouldn't find the B twenty four that just was
living in wartime. They take off from Missouri and they
go a thirty six hour round trip, drop these bombs
(07:40):
and come back and they're eating spaghetti with their wife
that night and getting the kids from soccer practice. So
we're just in a conflict. That's war. It's not a war. No,
it's an all out I mean.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Google war. It says we're not in a war. It
just says conflict. So it's like, what's the definition of
being an a war? They I heard just yesterday, So
the US is declared war. You're saying that I heard
just yesterday, call it war.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
We're in World War three? No war?
Speaker 6 (08:03):
In a war?
Speaker 7 (08:03):
So what war do you want to call it? The
last war? War two called Epic Fury. That was the
title of the operational Epic Fury. And so what's the
war called? They'll title, they'll give it a name.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I mean, so this is the first war we've been
in since World War Two? No, no Desert Storm. I
mean those wars are coact freedom. Actually, what's the difference.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
While the US has been involved in many conflicts since
June of nineteen forty two, which is the last time
that the US Congress formally declared war, they have nineteen
forty two, We've been inother conflicts including Korea, Vietnam, I Rock,
and Afghanistans.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
These that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
These were conducted by authorization for use of military force,
not war authorization of US use of military force.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
That still, what's the difference in So we changed, we changed.
The Department of the Secretary or the Department of Defense
is now called the Department of War. Do you see. Yeah,
Trump changed. That's when Trump went back in the Department
of the the Department of Events. He changed. He's like,
I don't want that name anymore where the department. He
did that with the Gulf of Mexico, So like, what
is that real or not? Well, you know, so you
(09:12):
should see what they did. It's it's absolutely I geek
out of this stuff. But what they did with Israel.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Yeah, just look up the YouTuber Ai Telly, that's his name,
ail A T.
Speaker 8 (09:25):
T e L.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I showed London. I showed London last night and she
was like eyes wide open, just couldn't believe the planning
and the strategy. And I mean from the dru from
the like the drones that went up that were decoys.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
They see like three hundred decoy drones and that looked
like three hundred f thirty fives coming straight for their capital.
So their whole like system, their whole government went into
a panic because they thought there was like hundreds of
f thirty fives heading straight for their.
Speaker 8 (09:53):
Capital to destroy them. But it was just a decoy.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
And then, like like Ant said, they've hat like all
these cyber attacks going on. They're hacking their systems to
make their radar, so they were they were like in
a matter of minutes.
Speaker 8 (10:05):
They were just in complete confusion.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
And then you have multiple aircraft carriers sending Tomahawk missiles
from different oceans in different parts of the world, all
while B two bombers are overhead like thousands of miles
in the air. We have other like patrolling jets that
are like sending out signals, signals, hacking things from below.
And then all coordinated with Israel, who has like dozens
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of fighter jets that are coming.
Speaker 8 (10:30):
It's insane.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Sure, there's two hundred two hundred from Israel. Three five
hundred jets are in the air over Iran, which is
larger than the state of Texas, So it's a big
it's a lot of ground to cover. But they all
hit within a second, so no one. No one saw
it coming, no one. These these people were in the
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meeting drinking their tea. Man, just boom, they're gone.
Speaker 8 (10:57):
Kind of reminds me of Jesus coming back.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, man, like that gone. I mean they were they
had no idea. So then what happens is the Iranian
government that was still alive, I mean so much of
it's flattened. The parts that were still alive launched defense
like missiles, and they hit Dubai, they hit Saudi Arabia,
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they hit Turkey, they hit Israel, they hit all their
that used to be their friends because they were mad
at the US. Apparently they wanted to get the US
bases because they hate, you know, death to America. That's
what they've been chanting for forty years. They so they
send all these missiles out and and the UAE's like,
(11:44):
what do you got on us? Saudi Arabia is like,
what are you doing to us? So then they they
joined the fight. So everyone turns against Iran. So Britain,
Britain's got all airplates on standby, Like I heard the
Prime Minister and he's like, we're We've got jets in
the air. Britain will join this, and so everyone standing
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up against the bully Iran. The whole thing is, and
we'll get to the point of the podcast. They they're
trying they've been trying to enrich uranium because they want
nuclear weapons. And not only that, but they want the
cruise missiles to fly them. The Inner Balists what do
you call those those big old missile what ICBMs? They
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want the ICBMs to take the nukes right to America
and Israel and anyone else. They did that they ideologically
don't like. So we have Ed and Travis joining us.
How should we think about the events that have unfolded?
Is this is this not a big deal? Is this
a very big deal? Is this connected to UH October seventh?
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Is this just another meaningless battle war in the Middle
East that America should not be involved in. Well, let's
start with that.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
Can I go first ed for a little bit? Can
I set the background? Okay, so this has been building
for a while. Iran is the mother of all terrorism
in the globe, and there's been lots of tension for
years between them and pretty much everybody else except their
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proxies and most of the terror attacks. I'd say the
vast majority. ED could probably touch on this that have
happened in the last decade, have you a relationship to Iran?
And so the October seventh as an example that there
was an Iranian strength behind what happened in Israel and
that massacre that was there. They're in Hesbelah, They're behind
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the Hesbela rockets into Israel. There behind the the suicide
bombers that are occurring or the suicide terrorists that are
occurring around the world. So it's everybody's known it, but
we've just haven't. You know, who wants to start a war.
Nobody wants to start a war. And tell the Iranian
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people finally said, well, in talking to our analysts, ED
and I were talking to an analyst, a government analyst
the other day, until they reached the point of fatalism.
M that's what happened when the protests began.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Tell tell you what that means. What do you mean
by fatalism?
Speaker 6 (14:26):
Fatalism is when you don't care if they kill you.
You've lost so much that dying is the same as
living to you. And so suddenly the fear of being
killed is no longer a motivation to do or not do.
And so what happened It started a while back, and
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maybe I could dress this too. The universities began in
their and their limited ability to interact with the Internet.
That started to kind of create a difficulty inside the universities,
and it grew and eventually there was a there was
a moment in time when a woman was harmed that
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set the country on fire for a predo time. And
there's protests, a small, if you will, early tremors of
protests in Iran, but this last one, they came out
by the tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of protesters,
and internally the pressure became so hot that the Iranian regime,
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the under the supreme leader, the Ayatola, just massacred them.
And we'll hear some stories about that. And the numbers
that you hear officially the lowest the lowest number would
be they've killed thirty thousand of their own people. The
highest number would be over one hundred thousand dead and
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one hundred thousand wounded. That is a significant number of people.
And honestly, at that point in time, with the current
US administration, we have like Donald Trump, don't like Donald Trump,
it doesn't matter. He is somebody who cares about these things.
And when that occurred, and suddenly the entire world was,
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if you will, against Iran's actions. Now was the time
to act, and if there was ever going to be
a regime change, it would happen now because the people
want it, the Iranian We are not attacking the Iranians.
We are toppling an evil regime and giving what's the
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phrase and life, liberty and women freedom, something along those everywhere.
And so that's what's occurring here now. What doesn't have
obviously other implications politically, yes, the oil, yes, the stability
in the Middle East, yes, peace for our allies, all
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that's in there. But the catalyst was the Iranian people.
And I would really like to get Ed's take on this,
and then Ed, if you could chat about what happened
with satellite TV, that is very profound. What happened with
satellite TV. Ed is a as a director of a
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several satellite channels that go into Iran, and so could
you share maybe a little bit ed.
Speaker 9 (17:30):
So with any evil empire and evil government, there's always
the word of gossip. Where sin abounds, grace abounds. Uh So,
Iran has also been the cradle of a brand new
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revival of Christianity in the Middle East. It's the fastest
growing in the world today that is happening in Iran.
Literally one hundreds and thousands of Iranians are leaving Islam
and embracing Christ and the message of the Gospel.
Speaker 6 (18:11):
So we've got twenty annual growth brother, twenty percent annual
growth operation world growth Iranians, it's seen twenty percent.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Right, America's going the other way.
Speaker 9 (18:26):
Unfortunately, we take things for granted and complacency is the
enemy of our faith. Before the nineteen seventy nine revolution,
there were estimates of about only five hundred converted born
against Christians of Iranian background Muslim background. That was nineteen
seventy nine, So we're not even fifty years into this story,
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and estimates tell us that it could be upward the
five million born against Christians or Iranians have do have
very strong affinity and gravitation towards Christianity kind of like
ripe fruit on a tree. So we started a satellite
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ministry in twenty and fourteen twenty fifteen that has now
become three statellite channels. Our channel one is our conventional preaching, teaching,
evangelistic channel, where we share the gospel different speakers. Different
hosts share the gospel, whether they're English speakers or Farsi speakers.
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We have the facility to translate for the English speakers.
The second channel is our academic channel where we broadcast
twenty four to seven theology apologetics documentaries on biblical archaeology, science,
and Christianity. Most of that in collaboration with Trinity College
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of the Bible and Theological Seminary Indiana and Reasons to
Believe in Los Angeles. We take their content translate them
into Farsi. So all the videos from the lectures that
the props do in Trinity or scientists are all dubbed
into Farsi. And that's twenty four to seven sending these
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programs on Channel two. The reason we did Channel two
is because sixty eight percent of the Iranian population is
under the age of thirty five.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
These are young men.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Women, profound You guys, that is profound.
Speaker 9 (20:37):
These are young men and women, highly educated, university educated,
very aware of what is happening in the world through Internet.
They don't like pulpit preachers anymore. They don't want Christianity
from a pulpit. They want Christianity from a podcast, debates, presentations, arguments,
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evidence and compatibility between the Biblical narrative and science and philosophy,
et cetera. So Channel two is our academic channel, particularly
and specifically reaching out to that segment of Iranian society
which are most likely under the age of forty and
they're very curious, very much seeker through a different system,
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not the pulpit system, but the presentation and argument and
logical system. Channel three is our worship channel where we
launched two years ago and we have over three thousand
worship songs, mostly composed and arranged by Uranian worship leaders
(21:47):
and some from English, Spanish and other languages subtitled and
we broadcast at twenty four to seven.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
Now.
Speaker 9 (21:54):
We believe worship will play a very very big role
in the space over Iran. You know, in the war
signs of war usually you send your paratroopers and aircraft
to soften the enemy's positions before the ground troops come in.
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I believe worship is doing exactly that. It softens the
enemy strongholds and releases people's captivity by worship so that
they can hear the gospel, they can respond to the gospel.
So each of these channels currently have a viewing audience
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of approximately four to six million people.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Per day per channel.
Speaker 9 (22:46):
If you take an average, you're looking at about five
million viewers for each of these three channels per day,
and that means a lot because five million viewers probably
represents about million people in households, because every person watching
there are probably three or four people that are members
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of the household. So these are the nation.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
And time of the uprising.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
My question is when when the we hear about the
Internet going off but satellite can't be touched, is that?
What is that kind of what you're pushing here?
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Come on ed, tell them about the uptick.
Speaker 9 (23:27):
Exactly done, Exactly Internet went down. We used to have
our call center where people would contact us through WhatsApp
in our live broadcast in our studios, and obviously that stopped,
but we still continue to broadcast. But satellite does not
have that problem. Because the Islamic Republic uses the same
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satellite channels UH to broadcast their channels on propaganda, So
obviously they're not going to hit the satellite because it's
going to hit them. Right there, we are on satellite
twenty four to seven, no interruptions, no disruptions, and we're
just freely and comfortably broadcasting these programs. And that is
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why there is such a high reception. During the time
that these things were happening. In January, our viewership went
up to as high as seventeen million people because internets
went down. Now seventeen million is almost twenty five percent
of the Iranian population. Inside Iran, we're at some point
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watching Christian programming.
Speaker 6 (24:41):
That locked in their houses. The power of the Holy
Speriment locked them in their houses and they were stuck there,
no internet, no ability to call each other. They were
just they were under curfew. They couldn't leave. They're all
sitting in their houses and somebody says, well, we have
satellite TV, and so they click it on and there
they are. Literally the Supreme Leader forced them all to
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hear the gospel.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
That's the Lord, what they God meant for good, that's right. Yeah,
So these are incredible numbers. For people that are trying
to think through these they say, Canadians, Americans, people in
the West, how do we think through these things? Because
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something that was not mentioned earlier, Travis was the nuclear
capabilities of Iran, because that actually does affect us directly,
regardless of your religious view, your political view. If if
they if they enrich uranium, that's a bad thing for
a lot of people. Right, they will use it.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
They're the country that you can be sure will use it.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Yeah, probably starting with Israel.
Speaker 6 (25:58):
Well, depends on what kind of a rocket they have.
It may not be Israel. They may use it on
the the whatever geographic location they can reach to carry
that warhead. They're really get a lot.
Speaker 9 (26:13):
Of their they get a lot of their technology from
North Korea form the missile technology and China obviously, but
as you know, North Korea is constantly trying to develop
it intercontinental ballistics so that it can reach the US shores.
So if they get their hands on that kind of
a technology, it is not far fetched for them to
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even hit Europe and even beyond. So definitely it's something
that I think they've already enriched. There's already there's plenty
of enriched uranium that they're storing, and they're just waiting
for the right technology to be able to carry these
into the targets that they're looking for. So you asked
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the question in the beginning about what happened a few
days ago and whether there's a significance to it. I
think I never never expected in my lifetime that I
would witness a second revolution. I saw the nineteen seventy
nine revolution and it was a heartbreaker. It was truly
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a tragedy that we were on the path to become
one of the most industrialized and civilized and progressive nations
on the Asian map in the world, and it was
completely stopped and regression happened back to the Middle Ages
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of Europe, similar to that the Middle Ages of Asia.
And I would never have believed my eyes that I
would again see a revolution happening. And this is a
very very significant event in history. Leave the situation that
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is continuing to progress hopefully towards a complete change of
regime and the introduction of a democratic government and freeing
people from the tyranny of forty seven years of captivity
under Islamic tyranny. It's a significant milestone in history. So
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we should not underestimate it.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Now.
Speaker 9 (28:24):
Did October seventh player role, Well, I think it's just
a collection of number of things that have happened, not
just one event. October seven was one, perhaps maybe, as
the expression goes, the straw that broke the camel's back.
But I think there's been a series of events. For
forty seven years. This government has constantly tried to bring disruption.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
And terror and.
Speaker 9 (28:52):
Evil schemes that would threaten people's lives and security. So
this was finally the last event that I think would
lead to a complete change of dynamics in the Middle East.
And you know, we were at a meeting with provis
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A few days ago and we were discussing this thing,
and I said, one of the things that we need
to do is not just to hope and pray for
a regime change would probably happen very soon, but we
also should be looking forward to a long term the
Islamization of Iran. We need to get rid of Islam
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as a wholesale ideology and belief, starting with Iran, because
it will have a ripple effect in the Middle East.
The Islamization of a place like Iran must be accompanied
with the political landscape cannot have only a change of regime.
The government goes, but ninety minutes people are still very
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much stuck with that superstitious false beliefs that they have,
which will still be very vulnerable to be triggered by
another religious uprising that would bring them back on the
same page again. So I think the West, the Church,
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particularly the Church, needs to have a very clear strategy
of helping Iranian people be freed from Islam by presenting
the Gospel as beautifully, as radiantly, as transparently as possible,
and at the same time show them the dangers of
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Islam in their lives. You know, I was just telling Travis,
I think yesterday, when you buy a pack of cigarette,
they show you on the pack, at least in Canada,
I think the US the same. They show you a
picture of an infected lung, a dead man's lung, or
the mouth with all cancer and it rights at the
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back of the pack of cigarette. Smoking kill kills you,
will kill you. I think we should have a message
for Iran. Islam is going to destroy you. You've got
to get rid of this addiction to this religion, and
the only people that can do that is the church.
By presenting Christ as such a visible and such a
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beautiful representation of love and grace coming from God that
people will abandon that false religion and captivity to the
devil himself.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Yeah, which we don't have to add anymore to what
the Bible already shows them as glorious and beautiful. Travis
to that, to that point, what are some wrong ways
that the Western Church could could try to help.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
Well in our gathering that we are at, because because
actually Ed and I started talking a couple three weeks
back that something is coming. We were aware from our
sources something large was coming. It was inevitable, there was
going to be a regime change. We were convinced of that,
and so we began talking about exactly that. What is
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the best what's the next step? Ed has all these
contacts in Iran, among the Persian people, we have relationships
in the Middle East, You have relationships over there as well.
How can we coordinate? And so I just started throwing
out to people, no organizations to be mentioned, Hey, would
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you like to talk about a response when this regime falls?
And man, we had a great turnout, Okay, In that
were people from Yemen, people from the United Arab Emirates,
people from Pakistan, people who were networking in Turkmenistan, and
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all in Afghanistan and all those the whole area. And
they were all talking, and some of them were long
in the tooth, meaning they've been around a day or two,
unlike Ed and I are very young. And they remember
the collapse of the USSR. Now the church in Iran
is underground, right, It's it's hidden, it's it's in its
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own private world, and it's about to be uncovered. That
seems so good, doesn't it. It seems like, get the underground
church out, let them be free in their worship. It
just sounds so good. And there's this and as Ed
has said, there's this deep hunger to know God. It's
the fastest growing church globally. Doesn't that all sound good? Except,
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as you said jokingly, as the Iranian church is getting better,
the American churches collapsing, and what happens and happened in Russia.
Our guy from Yemen said, remember Russia when it was
unveiled or uncovered. Immediately they the Evangelicals, the Protestants just
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poured in and they poured in money, and they poured
in their teaching and their Western philosophies, and they just
destroyed the underground church. That's the view of the people
on the ground. They destroyed the underground church. False teachers
came out from everywhere, name it and claim it word faith,
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big crusades, and they began dividing, and it became a
way everyone started grabbing money. Because as our brother who's
in the Middle East yesterday spoke on a different program,
he said, Uh, Westerners, especially Americans, they're so generous. They're
just not wise in how they invest, and so they're
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willing to give. And we're the most generous country in
the world, hands down, the United States is so we
want to respond. And Christians are the most generous of
the generous, and they want to give, but they don't
do it wisely or using discernment, and so they start
pouring money in and fraud just rose rose and rose,
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and the greedy wolves, the pastor wolves, started taking and
began pocketing, and they began getting rich. And it was
and it became so bad. This I did not know,
but my friends shared with me became so bad in
the now Russia that the Russian government propped up the
Orthodox Church. They actually propped it up, not because they
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were more religious, but because they needed to keep the
evangelicals from destroying themselves, so they chose the orthodox and
established and gave it authority and power to keep the
evangelicals from just destroying the spiritual nature of their country.
(36:09):
And so the warning was, in fact, it caught me
totally off guard. The warning was this is the words. I'
lets see if I can get the words, see if
you can remember ed he said, we the church are
the greatest detriment to the church. Something along those lines.
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He said, we must get the message out. Please, don't
just send your money in. Don't fund every person who
has ever thought about a wonderful adventure into Iran. Find
established ministries that have been there, working with the underground church,
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who are not greedy, who have sound doctrine. That's the
first worn from our missionaries. Find. Don't just give money.
I don't care if a beautiful video comes on your
TV and you see all these hungry kids in this
war torn country. Don't send your money. Find an organization
that's trustable and actually doctrinally sound fund them. We do
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need money. Ed'll talk about that. There's a need right now.
You can imagine in any war. But there's they're rationing
food and water because infrastructure is collapsing and there's going
to be need for rebuilding, and absolutely we need to
help them. First, John says, if you see your brother
in need and shut up your heart, the love of
God's not in you. So we want to do that.
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But do not just open your wallet and start throwing
it towards everybody who says I love Iran, and you
get a bumper sticker that says I help Iran, give
it to organizations that were already there. And then that's
the outside message. The inside message is discipleship. What we have, honestly,
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and you've seen it too, Granger, I know you have.
What we have is a church that has been living
by the spirit. The Word of God is limited. They
don't all have a Bible. They're able to watch some
programming through satellite, but it's limited. It's not really discipleship
or doing the best we can remotely. Discipleship is really
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face to face growth, personal growth. And so they've been.
They pray, they py, they love, they sacrifice.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
But the.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
Current understanding of scripture, I would say, is immature, but
it's not because they want it to be immature. It's
because they haven't had teachers. Ed's been looking for teachers
and he's been trying to throw teachers in that country
as much as possible, but it's remote. So the second
the first one is don't just throw your money at this.
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The second one is for the inside of the church.
We've got to focus on discipleship now of the existing
church to protect them. This is horrible, to protect them
from the wolves from the west, the religious wolves from
the west. So what's going to happen. They're hungry, they're spiritually,
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they're alive. They're able to say Jesus's name out loud
and raise their hands in public, and it's so exciting.
And a false teacher and I'm not going to name
any so you don't get in trouble. But a false
teacher comes in and puts on a crusade, a crusade brother,
and thousands upon thousands of people come because they want God.
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And they see this guy who's dynamic, and he flies
in in on a jet and he's wearing this beautiful
outfit and he speaks so well, and they flock to him,
and he takes their money and he gives them a
false gospel and they're like, oh, we met God. We
met God. So they're taking those who are hungry for
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the Lord, and they're giving them false teaching and reaping
as it says in Ezekiel thirty for eating the sheep,
not feeding the sheep, eating the sheep. And in Russia,
ministry is exploded and people got rich and the church
was destroyed.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
That's the warning. Well, guys, as we wrap this up, ed,
maybe we should do this again, you know, in a month,
because this thing might change so much. How could we
pray for Iran?
Speaker 9 (40:48):
As Travis beautifully described, I think we need to pray
first of all, for this current situation would come to
a conclusion very quickly. Those that need to be removed
and taken out of the picture on a wholesale basis
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would very rapidly be taken out, and the power structure
would collapse, so that people will have a time. You
need help from outside, and you need people from inside.
I mean, all you can do all the attacks you want,
but it comes a point where people now have to
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get out into the streets and take over the country.
So we need to pray for people to remain safe,
wisely act and the West to be able to fulfill
what they promised the running people. I like the fact
that Natanyahu made a very interesting statement. He said, two
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five hundred years ago, the Persians saved the Jewish nation
by freeing them from the Babylonians and releasing them to
their land. And now after twenty five hundred years, it's
our turn. And you know what, something very interesting. I'll
say this, or maybe we'll bring it to a conclusion.
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Twenty five hundred years ago there was Queen Esther that
sensed the danger through her uncle Mordecai, that the Jewish
people were about to be annihilated by hey Man. And
it was the Feast of Purim, the estrafast, which we're
right now about to celebrate. And to just imagine how
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the coincidence, I call it divine incidents. Twenty five hundred
years later, again during the Feast of Purim. This time
it is not the Jewish people that are in danger
of destruction, but the Persians, and God is sending help rescue.
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And that is what we need to pray for people
to be rescued and saved from other destruction and shame
and everything that is not really Persian, but the influence
of that religion but second thing we can pray is
the reconstruction and redevelopment and opening of the Gospel in Iran,
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along with what Pravat said, a very systematic, deliberate, well
designed scriptural discipleship of leaders who've been yearning to be
able to be trained. We have a seminary that we
run with Trinity College of the Bible and Theological Seminary
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out of Indiana all translated into Farsi, and we have
three hundred plus students inside Iran, which means our future pastors, teachers,
evangelists are going to come out from the very people
that are currently studying at this particular institute US affiliated
with Trinity. Well, we need to pray for discipleship that
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people leaders, local pastors, these underground churches that are led
by men and women are going to be well trained
disciples so that they can take over the leadership of
the church rather than we send Westerners to come there
and try to impose Western style Christianity or Western style Churchianity.
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For them to be truly connected directly to the scriptures,
the Holy Spirit, and the framework that we help them
develop for sound ministry, so that Irani is not going
to go the same path as Russia and some of
the other European nations when and in the process they
destroyed Christianity.
Speaker 6 (44:51):
Yeah yeah, Granger, I know you want to wrap up,
but it's a recording, right, so I can give you
a monologue here and you can take what you like.
I got to things I'd like to say before you
close us. Unless man fell asleep, No.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
We're all good. Yeah, what you got.
Speaker 6 (45:08):
Esther and Mordecai. We're able to rescue the people of
Israel and Persia because they received a letter that enabled
the people to defend themselves. That's the goal here. Israel
doesn't want to own Iran. The United States does not
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want to own Iran. Again, and again we're hearing a
call from our president. Iranians, we are taking the teeth
out of the tiger. Now you must kill it. You
must rise. The Iranians must lead their country. And so
(45:51):
that's the prayer that Ed and US would have that
the Iranian people, who have sacrificed so much to get
to the point, who have pled with people, played with
nations to intervene, they're now intervening. They must rise. We
must have humble servant leaders from inside the country who
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will lead them into freedom. That's one, because it'll be
a vacuum wide open for ungodly wicked leaders. Absolutely, we've
got to pray against that. And the second thing is
there's two scriptures that I just want to give. I
said it to our chat, but maybe it didn't go through.
But there is a mandate from the Lord to those
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he calls the mighty ones translated gods, if you will
in Psalm eighty two, the whole controversial scripture, the judges,
the leaders, the mighty ones. He says to the mighty ones,
here is what you are supposed to do. And I
want granger right now. Honestly, the United States is the
only superpower I firmly believe in the world right now.
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There are other powers, but there's only one like us.
Right now, we find ourselves alone, and there is a
mandate from the Lord to the mighty ones. This is it,
he commands and saw him eighty two to three. Defend
the poor and fatherless, do justice to the afflicted and needy,
Deliver the poor and needy, free them from the hand
(47:23):
of the wicked. And I firmly believe that's what we
need to be praying. God, you have told the mighty
ones to do this. We are the mighty ones. Please
lead our President, please lead all those involved, that we
might free them from the hand of the wicked. And
that is what the battle we need to engage in.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
Yeah. Amen, Amen. What changes nations and people groups and
societies and governments from the inside out is the gospel.
And we don't ever want to to have an episode
without the gospel. Parker, could you help us? Help us?
Speaker 4 (48:04):
What is the gospel? Gospel is the good news that
God created man to love him, to serve him, to
obey him forever. But all mankind has turned away from God.
That man is not morally neutral or deep down good,
that all men have gone astray and have turned away
(48:27):
from God. And because all mankind is turned away from
God and did not obey him, just like a good
judge in your local county doesn't let the guilty go unpunished,
So God on judgment day rightly will not let the
guilty those who reject Him and turn away from Him
go unpunished. And so all mankind is deserving of eternal
(48:47):
conscious punishment for their sin. But God not design that
anyone would perish, sent his son Jesus, who lived the
perfect life that we were supposed to live. He died
the death that we deserve on the cross, taking on
the good, just wrath of God in our place. And
three days later, after he was killed, he rose from
the grave, showing that he was who he said he was,
(49:08):
that God had accepted his sacrifice of him dying in
our place on our behalf, and now sits at the
right hand of God, calling all men to repent or
turn from our sin, to trust in his sacrifice alone
on the cross, so that on judgment Day, when we
stand before God and he says, why shall let you in?
It would not be because of anything good that we
(49:30):
have done, and we were all guilty before him, but
is because of Christ's perfect work on the cross that we.
Speaker 1 (49:36):
Might be saved. Amen. Amen, promised. We do a book
giveaway every episode. Grab this one. This is another very
short one. We're We're in a series of short ones,
aren't we. That's right? Thoughts for young men. J. C Ryle.
Any of you guys read this? Yes, I read it,
Kadin's read it off off camera, Parker's read it. I'm
(49:58):
trying to grab a date for this. Eighteen eighty eight,
eighteen eighty eight it's a it's a wonderful book. Amber.
Amber always nudges me when this book comes up and says,
and for women, it's good for women, So apparently it's
just as good for women. I haven't really thought of
it in that way, but yeah. So it's a great
(50:18):
meditation book on godly men, godly biblical men, which is
exactly what Travis was saying we need more of in
our discipleship efforts. And as promised, some comments, you guys
go to go to what is the name of it again?
The book?
Speaker 6 (50:36):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (50:36):
The book? Oh yeah, yeah, we got we gotta do.
We got to do a comment for that, leading to
the next idea thoughts for Young Men by j c Ryle.
How could we relate that with the Iranian conversation? The
comment is Christian men in Iran, we need Biblical men
in Iran.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
Okay, you comment that that gives you a chance to
win that book and we'll ship it to you. If
you'd like to just know what books that we've done
in the past, If you go to nine to nine
to one the podcast dot com, we have all the
books that we've done all up there, and in fact,
you when the latest episode comes out the book that
goes with that episode. So this episode's out now, the
(51:14):
book is directly underneath it. It has that book right there,
and then you can also see all.
Speaker 1 (51:19):
The other books as well. Click. That's really cool the link.
I'm looking at that right now.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
You just put it up. Yeah, and then browse all books.
You can see all the featured books that we've done
so far.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
That's so cool. And then you can click and buy
it on it and we don't make opinion on any
of there.
Speaker 2 (51:31):
That's even cooler. We're not promoting ourselves at all. Obviously,
Buy on Amazon and it'll take you right there.
Speaker 1 (51:38):
Oh that's so cool. Okay, So, speaking of comments, go
to the YouTube page which is ninety nine for one
the podcast on YouTube, and I'm gonna check some of
these comments. Go go and comment, Bip. We need biblical
men in Iran and tell us where you're from and
your name. For instance, last week we have Andrew from
Carlisle pau to Andrew. We have David says. I don't
(52:03):
usually tune in for topics. I tune in to be inspired.
And I love how Tyler says all things are created
for him and by him, visible and invisible. That inspires
me so much. Thank you, Tyler. Always a shout out
for Tyler. And then and then one more. Here we
have Trust the Bible from Magdalena and she says, another
(52:23):
great episode. Thank you for doing all that you do.
I love this podcast. Listening from Arkansas. That's awesome. Yeah,
thank you guys. That's all we have for today. We'll
see you next episode. Gyegee
Host
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