April 20, 2026 • 52 mins
In this week’s episode of the 9941 Podcast, Granger, Tyler, Parker, and AntMan dive into some of the most common and challenging questions people ask about faith, God, and suffering.
Fresh off a speaking event, Granger shares real questions from a live Q&A session, including: Why does God seem harsh in the Bible? and How can someone move past anger toward God after deep loss? The conversation explores the difference between God’s discipline and judgment, the role of suffering in a believer’s life, and why misunderstanding God’s nature often leads to frustration and doubt.
The guys also unpack the importance of biblical context (not just cherry-picking verses), the necessity of accountability within a local church, and how a deeper understanding of God’s character can bring peace even in life’s hardest moments. Personal stories, including grief, loss, and spiritual growth, make this episode both honest and deeply impactful.
If you’ve ever wrestled with tough questions about faith, pain, or purpose, this episode offers clarity, truth, and encouragement grounded in Scripture.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I'm Granger, I mean man, I'm Tyler, I'm Parker.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
This is nine nine for one podcast. We laugh because
we have been chatting and chatting until we do this
every every time we get together. We chat and then
eventually we start saying we should be recording what we're
saying right now. Thank you guys for listening. We say
all the good stuff, and then we press for we
actually do. Man, we say the good stuff and then
we tame it up. And one of these days we're
(00:26):
gonna do enough episodes where we stop we start taming
it in the podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Everybody fits in the box.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Not to make anybody nervous. I hit record long before
we really started, so I mean, Kayden, up to you,
up to you. Part of it. Part of what we're
talking about is I I just came.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I go from PG thirteen to G real quick. Once
we pressure record.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
There's the clip. And it's not that you're saying it's
not that you're saying thirteen things. You're saying challenging things.
Uh to the world. Yeah, we just speak in my
mind and and I think, yeah, I part of what
we're talking about is I just got off the I
just got off the boat. I just got off the
(01:08):
plane and came straight from the plane to here. And
I flew from Pittsburgh this morning, but drove from Morgantown.
Drove from Morgantown, it's an hour fifteen to Pittsburgh, jumped
on a plane, flew direct here, came straight in to
do this podcast. Well, speaking to a group of men
(01:29):
last night. Actually it was a mixed group. I've been
saying that, but there's a mixed group in West Virginia. Morgantown.
Last night. It was just a day in and day out.
But I was thinking what I did. After I spoke,
I did a Q and A, which I often do,
and this one lasted almost two hours, and so I
(01:50):
got to thinking I was probably thinking about it during
the Q and A, Hey, we should maybe for the
podcast tomorrow when I see the guys, we should talk
about most common questions I get.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Are the questions of majority of the questions. Are they
about what you just spoke on? Or do they go
all over the place? They go all over the place.
But there it's I've done it so many times now,
it's almost always there's there. There are like three or
four that always happen. Loss to some extent, Yeah, we
could go, we could.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I wrote them down here. That's what I would think,
finding a church, reading your Bible. That's usually what I'm
talking about to them, Okay, and then they often don't
go back to that.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
For the questions girlfriend, relationship, h questions, I.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Assume it's like the podcast. That's why I read the
questions that come in. Yeah, side note, we can get in.
I'll read you. I wrote down one, two, three, four.
I wrote down four that I heard yesterday specifically, and
they're common. But I did. I do hear a lot
of people that listen to the podcast at these type events,
and I yesterday I said, besides me, because there were
(02:56):
some kids that they listened to all these episodes, I said,
besides me, was your favorite of the host in the podcast? Unanimous? Man?
I promise, I promise. Why Well, then I pushed him
on it and they said, we just love his name. Okay, God, yeah,
I get it. There's the extent of my popularity.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
Tyler's uh Tyler's responses though.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
People love to but but I will say I also
preached in Austin at Kinney Avenue Baptist Great Church in Austin.
I preached there two days ago, and the pastor's family there.
He has four boys, and they were all about They
were all about Parker. They're all about Fred. Could we
(03:47):
meet Parker? Could we meet Fred? How's Fred doing? Can
you bring Fred to the preaching? You know?
Speaker 5 (03:52):
So?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yeah, Fred's got quite the falling. It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yeah. Parker is the host of the YouTube channel EEE Live,
the most successful gun tuber in all of the world.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Right, Teller, depends on how you're framing it.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I wouldn't say that we're talking to you, Kentucky. You've
been home. What is that, right, Tyler?
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Objectively depends on what you mean by success. You're talking
about revenue. Are you talking about influence or you're talking
about total subscribers? You're talking about views per video?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
What about subscribers and growth?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
You know we were talking yesterday.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Not to get off on a tangent, Kay, you can
cut all this, but you know.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
I'm telling this is what Caden's been dying because Parker.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Parker's just you know, he's with w ME now for
booking sponsors and all that.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
And explain who w ME is?
Speaker 3 (04:44):
William Morris to change names all the time. I think
it's the William Morris Group now used to be William
Morris Endeavor Represents. Used to represent you for booking music
for all your favorite country artists, all your favorite pop artists, whoever,
all those are these days entertainment movies. They booked your
for your movie Moonrise that you put out. The represented
(05:06):
you for that. So they got in La LA office
and national office, New York office, world somewhere overseas probably,
but anyway. And so they're doing Parker's ad sponsorships within
his YouTube channel, like so a digital division at w ME,
all kinds of divisions. Yeah, but I was saying, you know,
(05:28):
I've been on this kick about the box lately. Like
you know, Granger Smith was in a box and Earl
was out and he got he was super successful because
nobody was doing that. Everybody can be a country music artist,
so to speak, but nobody can do what Earl was doing.
So people resonated with that. So try to try to
do that in all aspects of every business that we do.
So with Parker now it's like, you know, being with
(05:49):
WME and and the popularity of his channel, open stores
to do collaborations with with people. So you know, I
was like that would be cool to do. Who who's
coming up on that on the William Morris roster that's
coming up with an album soon. It's like how many bullets?
How many cane brown CDs does it take to stop
(06:09):
a fifty cow?
Speaker 5 (06:11):
You know?
Speaker 3 (06:11):
And as an artist like that would be a great
marketing tool. You're gonna get literally tens of millions of
views on your new album that's coming out. But then
we're like Parker's listening to like Caigo this morning when
we're working out and so and Parker also mentioned like
clabbing with like Tom Brady, like doing some football challenge,
and like, what should we do a worldwide artist like
a Caigo instead of like the newest country music artists
(06:34):
like Tucker what Moore or whoever, just to appeal to
a broader audience, kind of like what Dude Perfect does,
mister Beast does. And anyway, I don't know where we're
going with this, but just trying to think outside of
I guess originally you saying biggest gun tuber in the world.
It's like yes, but then we obviously think what's next.
Let's be bigger than just a gun tubing space, and
let's bring in all these other big names and clab
(06:56):
and what.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Do you add subscribers? You're over seven million right now? Right, yeah,
something like that, because I think Hitcock has like eight Okay,
so you're closing in on the most subscribers outside of
Demo Matt, who's retired, the most subscribers of any gun
(07:17):
tuber on all of YouTube. I mean, I don't mean
to put you, I know, I don't want to put
pressure on you, like like I'm throwing praise on you
or something. I'm just just statistically speaking. You're pretty cool, dude,
(07:38):
No praise intended, no praise Intenda's pretty cool, dude, pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
And I will say the reason for the subscriber cou
is because we do YouTube shorts that go really viral,
and so those guys like Hiccup, Hiccock and Demo Ranch
grinded for decades to get what they got and have
a much more loyal following with then YouTube shorts. And
(08:02):
I know, Tyler you pushed back when I say that,
but just saying it's not the same and what they've
built is like is it was like just it's almost
like the old school, grinded out way. And so thankfully
we've just had a lot of success with YouTube shorts,
(08:23):
and that's just like the cheat code for subscribers. But
it's crazy, man, like it never it really never ends.
I don't know how far we want to go on
this tangier. I'll just say real quick. I was looking
at two other subscribe YouTubers today and they have like
eleven million subscribers. And then there was a little bar.
I saw one YouTuber and he had four million subscribers,
(08:44):
and his main header on his homepage was a bar
that showed him at four million, and then it was
like an the rest of the bar was empty. It
was like red, and then the rest was empty to
try to get to ten. I was like, he wants
to get to ten million. He's trying to get everyone
to get into ten million subscribers. And then I saw
another girl. She had twelve and it was at the
very bottom and there's this huge empty spot because she
(09:06):
wants to get to one hundred. And I just thought,
never ends, dude, Never, It never ends. You're at four
and then you get to ten, and then you're at eleven,
and you're just saying, oh, you got to get to
one hundred.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
What are you doing? You got to get to.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
And if you do, what happens when your hit one hundred,
you know, yeah, everyone's got a hundred one more thing.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
We'll get off this tangent one more thing. But you
can't say, I want to call you out on what
you said. Well, YouTube shorts are a cheat code. That's
not a correct illustration, because that would mean anyone could
do it, and you're in a vein that no one
could do. Right now, you have I just looked, you
have seven point seven point oh five million subscribers. That's
(09:46):
that you're You're just in a world all by yourself
that only a very very small percentage of people will
ever get to. And so I just want to say,
and you know that we know that the Bible says
that unless the Lord builds it, the one who labors
labors in vain. So your your house, if not built
(10:08):
by the Lord, will eventually fall. And you are not
the kind of guy that walks around going look at
all my subscribers, look at all you know, you are
the most blue collar man. I'm just checking in the work,
just providing for my family. The type of YouTuber I've
ever ever seen. I've known a lot of famous YouTubers
of our life. I've never seen one like you. That's
(10:30):
just like, yeah, I do it every every Tuesday at
two o'clock. I go out there and we shoot something
new and we plant it out and then that goes
and edits and you know, and I'm like you just
it's such a job to you and youss versus someone
that actually eats it, eats up the fame itself, and
(10:50):
that their goal is one hundred million. Their goal is
one hundred million, and they hope to do meet and
greets and they hope to turn this into a million dollars. Yeah,
turn it, turn it completely, turned it into just a
money grab. And here you are on putting out an
episode last or two weeks ago with sharing the gospel,
which is wild, you know, sharing a clear gospel at
(11:13):
the end of at the end of your shooting. It's
like and knowing that you have a very big international audience,
knowing you have a lot bunch of Indian viewers, right
is that in India is one of the biggest ones.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
India and the Philippines biggest.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
So interesting, so you're you're sharing the gospel internationally and
very intentionally. I think I think if you knew you
couldn't share the gospel, you'd probably quit the channel. If
you knew that there wasn't a gospel, if Christ wouldn't
glorified in it, you just quit the channel. But it's
(11:53):
pretty cool. It's it's really cool to see.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yeah, thanks man. Well it's all God, because uh I
would I just love the money and love the fame,
and I want to be God and I want people
to worship me. So anything that's not that is just
the Holy Spirit and has nothing attributed to me. I
listened to a great Chris Pratt interview interviewed by Ben
Sass some random collab yesterday, and Chris Pratt was talking
(12:18):
about his faith and he said he said, life in
that world is just trying to milk what you can
out of it and stay far away, milk a little
bit and just try not to fall in and get
burned and a lot of it. I was like, that's
kind of how I feel. That's kind of how I
feel right now. That's the importance of the local church
and having guys around me that I know will call
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me out.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
So glad you said that. Let's let's hit that real quick.
The importance of a local church that can call you
out on things. They can encourage you and rebuke you.
And that's where you're in a place where I promise you,
if you put on an episode that was somehow compromising
morally in any way, you'd have about four guys meet
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you on Sunday and be like, Hey, we need to
talk about this episode that came out last week. Brother,
Let's talk about this. And that's the accountability that we
not should have, not suggested, have, must have in a
local church. And not only you, but I was thinking
about this the other day too. It's not only a
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church member. You're actually a deacon, so that you know.
But it's but it's not It has nothing to do
with the position that you're in in the church, because
that includes pastors. I know we have a lot of
pastors that listen to this. I talked to them a
lot of times. If I travel, there's a lot of
pastors that listen. So I want to say this too.
(13:41):
If you're a pastor and you don't have accountability in
your own church, brother, you're putting yourself in danger, and
not only yourself but your flock. And that is a
very scary place to be in. And you might be
doing things biblically right now, and everything might be good.
(14:02):
But if there is no other brother in your church,
not not outside your but if there's no other brother
in your church that can approach you and say this
is this is not looking good, then you are in
a lot of trouble. And that it would be the
same thing with Parker. Parker was growing a massive channel
like you are. Without anyone that could say, hey, this
(14:25):
is this is going too far, this actually might be
hurting your heart, then you're in a very scary place.
Fame is a very scary thing, and that could happen
in the pastorate. You could become you could become a
numb to the popularity that you're gaining in the pulpit.
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Very scary, much more scary than YouTube. Which is why
we believe in the Bible that we see pastoring as
in a plurality. It's always, if not at the very beginning,
it's always moving toward a plurality, meaning a pastor's plural.
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So a church begins typically with one or two, but
the result is always moving in the direction of multiple
pastors that have that have equal authority over each other,
not not one head boss pastor and everyone else under him.
You could have a guy that's leading. You have to
you have to have a guy that leads, but that
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leadership does not make you above the other pastors in authority.
There's always making sense. This makes sense, and so I do.
I do feel that sometimes as I'm talking to brothers
that are pastoring churches, and I worry as as you
see a church of a thousand people and there's one
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guy and then he has like three executive guys, but
he's like the main decision maker and he does what
he wants. And he might be doing things right and
biblically for now, but eventually the human heart becomes deceptive
and we start falling into that. So anyway, how about
we talk about common questions that come to me during
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a Q and a Yeah, what is it?
Speaker 5 (16:16):
What would you say is the most So you've been
doing how long have you been going and speaking churches
or events like this?
Speaker 1 (16:24):
So you did it before seven years? I think, let's see,
you did it before the touring stopped. Yeah, I think
seven years. And that's also right around the time I
started doing that on the podcast as well. Yeah, so
I would say that, and it's evolved over the years,
but I love to do the Q and A. I
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love to go somewhere and speak when I can, and
then do a Q and A after I always ask.
In fact, there's only been a couple of times. One
in particular, I think was in Upstate New York, when
the church said I talked to we talked to leadership,
and they said, no, I'm not gonna let you do
that because we don't trust what people are going to
say to you, which is a sign of an unhealthy church.
(17:07):
That was an unhealthy church.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Sure, So if they were afraid people were going to
ask stuff to you about what they were experiencing at
the church, is.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
What something along those lines. I think they were worried
that somebody might ask some questions that I wouldn't be
able to answer and it could get it could get political,
or it could get you know, controversial. Almost every other
time they say, yeah, we'd love for you to do
Q and A, and that usually brings up really encouraging things.
(17:37):
So I'll do my talk thirty or forty minutes, and
then the Q and A will bring up some really
encouraging questions that weren't in the talk at all, and
it usually makes everyone think. For all the people that
don't raise their hand, and we passed the mic to
they're probably thinking I was thinking that same question. I
didn't ask it. I would say a I'm gonna name
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a few here. This has happened last night.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
This.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
This isn't as popular, but it's still common. A guy asked,
I know you're you've been asking us to read our Bibles?
Why does God sound so harsh in the Bible? So
that was his question, Why does God sound so harsh?
(18:25):
Why does God? I wrote that down. I think I
wrote it while he said it. I was up on
the podium writing down for this podcast podcast in the
middle of the event, just to say, that's how much
I love this podcast. Why does God sound so harsh.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Talking about Old Testament?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
I'm assuming so that's what That's what I was. That's
what I was assuming. How would you answer that?
Speaker 3 (18:52):
How would I personally answer that? Because he is a
harsh he's a jealous God. Uh well, hang on, a
explain that he doesn't want us.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
That's a complicated topic that you just brought up, but
all that you do doesn't want us worshiping any other
gods but him. It unpacked jealous though, because that says
something to us. Remember Oprah Winfrey was like, as soon
as I found out in the Bible that God's a
jealous God, I said, enough of the Bible for me.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
What.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Yeah, there's a clip of what I've ever seeing that. Yeah,
I mean, I say, what like it's surprising. It's not
really that surprising, but just that specific phrase.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Everybody these days is like everybody all inclusive, love everyone.
It's not what the Lord says.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
So God's jealousy is a perfect jealousy. Our jealousy is
a corrupted jealousy because our jealousy is all about ourselves
and it's selfish. God's jealousy for himself. It's the same
kind of action we want. It's the same action, which
is why it's the same word. If I'm jealous of Amber,
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it's because I want I want the attention that she's
giving to someone else, because I want it, I need it.
It's an example I don't that doesn't happen in our marriage.
I'm just saying God gets jealous in the same direction
I want ant man to. I want him to worship me,
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not other false gods. So it's the same He wants
the same action love, but it's perfect because he does
it not for himself, because he doesn't need it. He
does it for ant Man. He's jealous of ant Man's
love for the for the false idol, for the sake
of ant Man, because he loves ant Man and he knows,
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because he created him, what's best for him.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
And where that would lead my worship of that false
idol and my love for that versa where that would
lead me in life and ultimately eternally my soul.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
That's where he gets jealous.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
We we can't even really comprehend that. No, we can
in our mind like because we can't because, like you
said in the beginning, like our jealous minds are jealous
whatever is completely different from God being jealous. Like we
can kind of understand it. You just said it really well,
but I think you can a little bit a little
bit as a father. When you have kids, things flip
(21:23):
and change and you start understanding a little bit more
and nowhere near the love and the thought and the
and the complexity of of our God and how he
cares for us. But definitely a relatability that wasn't there before,
Like you know, before kids, everything is about me, Yeah,
in the verse in the Bible that says, the gifts
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that you give your children, how much more exactly for
you when you're when.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Your father is a wicked sinner. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah.
There there's an old analogy of a painting in a
in a museum and it's it's just imagine an incredibly
beautiful painting. It's just amazing, breath taking painting. You've never
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seen a painting this incredible. And if the painting had
a voice, and that the painting could talk. In this illustration,
imagine people walking into the museum and they're walking past
all the exhibits and this paintings in the back. They
walk through all the exhibits and they get to the
back and they're bored, and they're on their phones and
they're looking down. And in that moment, the painting could talk,
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it would say, hey, look to me, don't be distracted,
stop looking at the other distractions of life. Look to me.
The painting in that moment is not speaking. It's jealousy.
In that moment, it's not narcissism. Look to me, because
I need you. I want to feel wanted, I need
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my identity is what other people show to me. I need,
I need, no, No, the painting is already perfect, The
painting is already secure and good. The pain He says,
I want you because I know what happens when you
look at me, the pleasure, the joy that you'll feel
from my beauty.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Look to me, or that's the Or Peter getting out
of the boat. Jesus calls him out of the boat
when he's walking on water and just get out of
the boat. So he gets out of the boat, walks
on water, and then he starts sinking because he started
looking at the storm and the waves and got scared.
Always I love that versee because I always just imagine, Jesus, dude,
look at me, keep your eyes locked in, and it's
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so relevant to us, like keep your eyes on Jesus.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
So in that moment, imagine add the word jealousy to
that word and go, Jesus in that moment was perfectly
jealous of Peter's distraction. Isn't want you drowning? Not? Was
it for Jesus, No, he doesn't want you to drown.
It was for Peter because you're going to sink. You're
going to sink. Look to me, love me, keep your
eyes on me, or you'll sink. Yeah, that's great, that's so.
(23:57):
So how does all this relate to? Okay, So the kid,
this was like a twelve year old kid that asked
this question, why does God sound so harsh in the Bible?
And I said, well, technically, first of all, you know,
the Old Testament speaks more about God's love than the
New Testament. Okay, And I said, where's your dad? He
pointed down the road, there's his dad. I said, did
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your dad ever get angry with you? Yeah? I said,
when's the last time your dad got harsh with you?
And his dad on the spot and I was like, hey,
I'm not talking about anger, I'm not talking about yelling.
And just when your dad gets stern with you, he
was like a few days ago on the way here,
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and why did he do that? Thought about it for
a second because he loves me. Yeah. Now we're onto something.
I said. You know, a few weeks ago, we went
to we went to go eat. I know, we met
Amber and the kids at a restaurant after church and
Maverick was riding with me. So we pull up. He
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unbuckles his car seat and he jumps out of the
car and you know, I'm gonna go see mama. That's
that's all he's thinking. So I quickly opened the door
and I said, Maverick, harsh, harsh tone, and he stops.
He hears my harsh tone, and he stops and he
turns to me. So in that moment, I used I
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utilized harshness, harsh tone, and a quick, a quick way
to verbalize to him, turn to me, you're in danger
because I love you more than you could possibly understand
right now in your fullness, I love you. And sometimes
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when you're going the wrong direction and you're in danger,
I must speak harsh to you. And that's what God does.
And he was like, I understand now. The kids like
I understand now. Yeah, So yes, sometimes God speaks harsh.
Sometimes we need that. There was a lot of wrong
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direction in the Old Testament too, a lot of too
a lot.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
There's a difference between God's discipline seeming harsh and then
God's judgment seeming harsh. So like what you're just talking
about is God's discipline or like the correcting of his
children for their good versus like a judgment would be
like flooding the earth or destroying Sodom and Gomorrah or
when the guy touches the ark of the Covenant and
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is struck dead, Like there's people who are just struck
dead in the Old Testament. So it kind of depends
on what they mean by the question. But I think
that if you're you hear that, like okay, Noprah hears
that and it's like I'm out. I think it just
comes down to having a false idea of how holy,
a misunderstanding of how holy God is and how serious
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sin is before him, because otherwise it just seems like
he's being meet and he's taken things too seriously because
we just think we're not perfect. But it's not sins
not that big a deal. So anyway, that's my little No,
it's not is holy. When you have a really serious
view of exactly how serious sin is and exactly how
holy and good God is, then it kind of puts
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all of it, all of things that are seemingly harsh
in a perspective.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
God is harsh. The outcome of where you were going
was much worse where he's been harsh in the in
whatever old New Testiment, but Old Testament specifically where they
were headed was way even worse than his His judgment
or not even judgment, but even you actions.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
No, that's good, guys. I Let's see if I could
find something that was so interesting to me. And do
you guys remember when this this this is not highlighted.
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And actually I'm on the fun in here because I
just read it and we see this is just a
small example, and we see this all of the time
in the Bible, and I like to I like to
highlight it in my in my Bible. But do you
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remember when when Jacob, when God visited visits Jacob, and
it's the it's the we call it Jacob slatter. It's
like the that's the popular idea of this is is
Jacob's latter. So in Genesis twenty eight, God visits Jacob
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and he basically appears to him, says, I am the Lord,
your God, the God of Abraham, your father, and the
God of Isaac. And the land on which you lie,
because he was dreaming the land on which you lie,
I will give to you and your offspring. And your
offspring will be like dust of the earth. And you
shall spread abroad to the west and to the east,
and to the north and to the south. And in
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you your offspring shall be all the families, all the
families of the earth shall be blessed, which we know
is the promise that happens through Christ. Eventually, behold, I
am with you, and I will keep you wherever you go,
and I will bring you back to this land. I
will not leave you until I have done what I
have promised you. And then Jacob awoke and said, surely
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the Lord is in this place, and I did not
know it, which is an interesting thing of how God
comes to us when we do not know him. God
visits Jacob, and so all this just beautiful story. Right.
God visits and says, I'm the God of your fathers.
I will give you this land, and you're gonna have offspring,
and we're gonna bless all the nations of the earth.
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But what we miss is verse seventeen is when he
wakes up and he was a raid and said, how
awesome is this place? Quickly goes by, but you see
it all over the Bible. The encounter with the Lord
brings fear, and it goes to what you're saying, I
brought this up because of that. Once we start to
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understand his holiness and how awesome he is, that there's
a new reverence that comes and a new way of
thinking about his harshness because we sit under his we
feel small in the presence of his greatness. And that
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is a really good thing to ponder. Because Jacob says,
or the Bible says of Jacob, and he was afraid
and said, how awesome is this place? This is none
other than the House of God, and this is the
gate of heaven, he says in Genesis twenty eight seventeen.
Such a good reminder. All right, you want another question, Yeah,
(31:04):
So first was harshness of God? So harsh the next one?
It it flows right into it. I get this almost
every single time I speak, almost every single time, and
it flows from this exact conversation we're having right now.
What do you What do you say to someone who's
been through trials in their life and they can't get
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past being angry with God? Now, I've heard that so
many times, and I'm so used to it that I
will typically just and I'll press in immediately, and I'll say,
are we talking about you or some of one of
your friends, one of my friends, this is last night,
one of my friends. Is that friend sitting in your
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row right now? And then you can see everyone like
gets uncomfortable. Yeah it's him, say okay, oh wow, And
then I'll say brother. Once I know who I'm talking to,
I'll say brother, I'm going to tell you something. And
I didn't fly all the way here to Morgantown to
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coddle or to to make sure I'm not offending anybody.
I only flew here because I want to tell you
the truth. Because I want to see I want to
see you worship God for who he is. That's why
I came here. That's my purpose is not to caudle
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or make everyone like me. It's because I've done that
in my life. My past life. All I did was
make people want to like me and make people want
to laugh and smile. That's all I used to do.
I don't not in that business anymore. I only came
here away from my family to tell you the truth.
And I'll tell you the truth. Anyone that is struggling
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with being angry with God is not knowing who God
is every time, because if you knew who he is,
as He's revealed himself in Scripture, then you not be
angry with him. Being angry with him is always a
product of a misunderstanding, and it's always a product of
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you lessening him to a smaller God that he is not,
And then that always they always stood on that for
a second, like whoa, this dude just lost his kid, man?
And which is actually the case? They lost a child
six years ago and they're angry with God, And I'm
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so sorry for your loss. I truly am so sorry
for your loss. I hate that for you. And to
question God to say how long? O Lord? Why? God?
Those are biblical questions? What would you have me to do? Now? Lord?
Those are biblical questions? How long will you will I
be in this kind of pain? Will I have this
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torment in my soul? Will I will I be so dejected?
How long? God? Those are biblical questions. But to say
I'm angry with you God is to think of him
as lesser than he is every time, and so to truly,
to truly see him for who he is is the
ailment for all sickness, are all misunderstanding?
Speaker 3 (34:31):
So how do you see who he is? To answer
the question, or it's like, Okay, I get it, I
don't know who he is? So how to I find
out who he is? And I know that's a loaded question,
But is there something specific like if you had five
minutes with that guy to answered the question like where
do you go?
Speaker 1 (34:46):
The nineteenth century famous preacher that we all know, Charles Spurgeon,
he once opened a sermon like this. The highest science,
the loftiest speculation, the mightiest philosophy which could ever engage
the attention of a child of God is the name,
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the nature, the person, the work, the doings, and the
existence of the great God, whom he calls his Father.
Would you lose your sorrow, would you drown your cares?
Then go plunge yourself, and the Godhead's deepest sea, be
lost in its immensity, and you shall come forth as
from a couch of rest, refreshed and invigorated. I know
(35:31):
nothing which could so comfort the soul, so calm the
swelling billows of sorrow and grief. So speak peace to
the winds of trial as a devout earnest continued investigation
upon the great subject of the Godhead. Most people don't
think of God as Charles Spurgeon did, but he is right.
(35:54):
The cure to every ailment is an intense investigation, meditation
on the person and nature, as revealed in our Bible
of who our creator is.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Okay, So the answer is not the quick fix, like
everybody wants the quick pill, what medication. It's you're saying,
a lifelong learning through the Bible, through the local church,
through reading books by Charles Spurgeon, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Ultimately, ultimately yes, but but at the very beginning, not necessarily.
I think if someone was really struggling with anger with God,
what really is happening is they're not a Christian or
and and people might hear that, go, well, Granger, who
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are you to judge? You know, people say that kind
of stuff, but we know we know people by their fruits.
And someone that truly a Christian is someone that finds
great joy and knowing more and more and more and
more of God. And the evidence of not knowing him
is being angry with him, is thinking smaller of him.
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And that's usually evidence of you're either not a Christian
or you're a very immature, milk drinking Christian. I say
that in no way of shaming anyone. I say that
because I was that guy. I lived that life for
many many years, and I wish I had heard a
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podcast where someone said, hey, man, either you're not a
Christian or you're very, very extremely weak and immature and
in a dangerous place. I wish someone had told me
that in like.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Late twenty nineteen, before you were saved in your state
after losing riv, were you angry with God?
Speaker 1 (37:54):
I don't ever remember a moment of being angry with
God after we lost Dad. I think I might have
been more more of that, but I think I think
I remember after losing Dad, I just felt like, why
are you so silent? That's what I remember thinking of God,
(38:18):
Like can you like not just send an eagle or something.
I remember being standing out in the field that that
that was overgrown. You know that Dad always mode. There
was the food plot actually that now you mo Tyler,
But that food plot was overgrown because we lost Dad
in March and it was like May. It was just
full of grass. And I was like standing out there
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like this, this field is overgrown because Dad's not here.
Why is he gone? Where are you?
Speaker 3 (38:47):
God?
Speaker 1 (38:47):
What are you doing? God? Can't you just is there
any comfort you can give me? Is there anything like
a cloud can roll by anything? And there was nothing,
And I was so I don't think really but just
confused why he was so silent. I know now I wasn't.
I actually was not a Christian.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Then, he wasn't silent. And the fact that that field
was overgrown and he was growing it because of his
son and because of his soil, because of his reign.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
You know, it's his.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
It's the Lord's field, not dad's. Dad was just a
temporary steward of that land.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
I wasn't a Christian then, yeah. And God is not silent.
We have his living, breathing, inspired word, you know.
Speaker 5 (39:32):
I I have.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
I have the words of God right now.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. But like, can I see
an eagle or something?
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Yeah, I feel that it's like a red cardinal.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
There's kind of seriously like that that's not enough, you
know to most people.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Yeah yeah. Could I see like a red cardinal come
to the windowsill and like peck on the glass, then
I would then I would know there's a God.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
That's Can I play a sixty seven second John Piper short? Yes,
just because it was kind of related. I heard it
this morning.
Speaker 6 (40:00):
I don't care how rich you are, you can't run
from it.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
You're going to suffer. Are you willing to stay with
him through all your suffering? You're going to.
Speaker 6 (40:09):
Suffer folks period.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
The question is will you do it with him? Will
all your suffering.
Speaker 6 (40:16):
Be sanctified by the conscious confidence? This for me is
disciplined from my father to knock all the props of
self reliance out from under.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
My life, so that I lean wholly on him.
Speaker 6 (40:35):
If we fallen people were not brought into trial after
trial after trial, I would fall ever more deeply in
love with the eases and comforts and prosperity and delights
physically of my life, and forget God. That's why he
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knows us.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
He's a father.
Speaker 6 (40:59):
He disciplines all of his children. He knows a therapy
that you need in order to make it to the inheritance.
And the therapy is different for everybody. John Piper's suffering
regimen is different from yours. I don't like mine, but
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I do not get angry at my God. I have
a doctor who must break my leg to save me
or amputate it because it's got cancer.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
And I love my surgeon.
Speaker 6 (41:35):
I love him because he loves me far more than
I love myself.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
I'm glad we got a special guests after John say
to give us a little piece of this. I have
a doctor who will break my leg to save my life?
Who will amputate it because it has cancer? I think
that is a great way of looking at this. Ultimately,
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God took my son so that I would see what
it meant for him to give his son. M hmm. Yeah.
Being angry with God is a sign a check engine
light that that you should have checked out because it's
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an it's not good. It's a sign of of of
a weak faith or a non existent faith. And especially
in the case of last Night, for six or seven years,
it's a big problem. As as Spurgeon said, a and
a long meditation on God's word as we're reading through
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the Bible, not just picking verses that we want to
see what does it What does it say about suffering?
What does it say about marriage? What does it say
about you know? Instead working through I mean, just work
through the Genesis narrative. Really work through Genesis and Exodus,
and that alone you will walk away from the end
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of Genesis by chapter fifty and go, oh, this God
is in control, This God knows. This God is all powerful,
This God is all loving, this God is all planning.
There is nothing escaping this God. Just from fifty chapters
of Genesis, you could recognize quickly. I lost my dad
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and it wasn't lost on God. God wasn't playing ketchup
to an accident that happened on this earth. Oh he
knew every day that was formed for me and every
day that was formed for my dad. Oh he knew.
So I don't get angry that somehow he missed it
or somehow he planned it in some way to hurt me.
(43:54):
If it happened, it happened for the collective good, for
his glory. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Either Romans eight twenty eight is true or it's not.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Yeah, what's Romans eight twenty eight?
Speaker 2 (44:05):
For God works all things for the good of those
who love him or called according to his purpose. So
He's going to work every good or seemingly terrible thing
in your life ultimately for your good.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
I like the quote. I think it was J. I.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Packer who said, there's literally nothing that God's going to
withhold from you that's not for your spiritual eternal good.
And ultimately, I think that becoming angry with God is
just a matter of unbelief that he's actually holding out
on you, which is like the original sin in the garden.
Speaker 5 (44:36):
The important part to think of that scripture is the
is you just said, it is the good and the bad.
Of course we can see the good. If we can
see the good, we're like we can understand the good
of how he would use that to work or good.
It's the challenge is the bad and that's the all things.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
I like what Granger said of like it's easy you
just kind of go to the Bible for particular answers
for certain questions and just stay there. But I want
her to describe that like Biblical theology is like walking
through a garden and taking a rose from each of
God's attributes and different examples in scripture of his sovereignty
and his love and his holiness and what he thinks
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about sin and salvation and in times and like all
of these aspects, and you have this huge bouquet of
God and then you can see Him in his fullness
there and then that's how you react to life afterwards.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
Ironically, one of the questions last night was about Romans
eight twenty eight. A guy raised his hand and said,
if God's working all things for good, as it says
in Romans eight twenty eight, how come we can't see
that good? And what good could possibly come out of
some of the things that I've seen in my life.
And I said, well, first, I said, let's stop right there,
(45:58):
and that's that's that's Bible picking. And we don't want
to just hit here and pick the verses that we
like and just and try to isolate them from the rest.
I said, hey, let's start reading. Let's read some more
Romans eight. So I think I sat there in front
of all those people and I started in verse twelve,
and it's just Romans eight. It's all of it's beautiful.
(46:21):
I started in Romans twelve or eight twelve, and are
read all the way down past twenty eight. But part
of it is Paul says, for I consider that the
sufferings at this present time are not worth comparing with
the glory that is to be revealed to us. And
for the Creation waits with eager longing for the revealing
of the sons of God. For creation was subjected to futility,
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not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it. And
hope that the creation itself would be set free from
its bondage to corruption and obtain the freedom of the
glory of the children of God. For we know that
the whole creation has been groaning together in pains of
childbirth until now, and not only so. I'm just like,
we have to take what you're saying in Romans eight
(47:04):
twenty eight in the context of what Paul was saying.
I said, I wonder if sometimes, if Paul, if he
could possibly know, did you know that there's people that
took one of your letters and took one line from
it and just lived their life just from one line,
which it's the word of God. So it's not a
wrong thing to do. But I think Paul would be like,
but that's my whole argument came before and after that,
(47:26):
you know. So it's not a sin to take a
verse and hang it in your kitchen. That's a great
thing to do. But to build your entire theology over
without the context of to be able to ask a
question like the guy said, where's the good in this?
Paul explains this. You know, you can't just take Romans
eight twenty eight and go this is such a mystery
(47:49):
to me. No, it's in the letter that Paul wrote.
That's a very long letter. You should read it. It's
really good. The visual when he ask you ask a
question like that is zooming in on a painting.
Speaker 5 (48:02):
Is that we're using paintings and museums running on this
podcast is zooming in so close to you just see
pixels or you know, some brushstrokes and stuff.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
You're like, what good is in this? Yeah? I don't know.
Speaker 5 (48:15):
It just looks like a block doesn't matter, and you
zoom out and it's the Mona Lisa. Yeah, you know,
Well you got to look at the whole thing to
understand the beauty of it all, not just the good,
not just the zoomed in portion.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
Of and then leaving room for the mystery and that
you're not some things you're not going to know on
this side of eternity, that we're finite beings trying to
understand an infinite God. And it reminds me of Spurgeon
who goes up to the orphanage and he and he
goes up to the boy who's gonna die in a
few weeks he has he's really sick, and Spurgeon's laying
with him at his bedside. He says, nurse, HOWI is
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and he goes, not good.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
He hasn't.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
He tossed and turned and coughed all night, and he
said and he said, he went up to the boy
and he said, do you trust in Jesus? And the
boy said, and he said, I know, it seems unfair
that you're lying here in this bed and all the
other boys are outside and they get to play, and
you can hear him out the window. But soon you
will see Jesus face to face and you will ask
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him why, and he will tell you, and you will
be so glad. So there's this sense that, like, I know,
it doesn't seem fair, But you'll see him soon and
you'll ask him and he'll give you the answer and
you'll be so glad.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
Meditate on this for a second. Romans eight sixteen. The
Spirit himself bears witness with our spirit that we are
children of God, and if children, then heirs, heirs of
God and fellow ers with Christ, provided we suffer with
Him in order that we may also be glorified with Him.
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Which of us in this room would deserve such a thing? Yeah, Yeah,
to be heirs of the king.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
It's hard to read that and be like get excited.
It's like, you know, not me, I don't deserve that.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
Yeah. So for now we've grown in these in this
the sin that we live in the word the fallen world.
Are even our bodies that are every day aging and
breaking or getting worse in the in the world we
see and the wars and the the craziness we see,
and even in our own government. Yeah, it's going to happen.
(50:27):
Hold fast, this, this suffering has to happen. Each of
us in this room. One day we're going to get
a phone call. Somebody we dearly love is dead, or
they have cancer, or they have heart disease. Everyone, everyone
in this room. It's either that call is coming to
us or it will be us. It's coming for us.
(50:49):
We must pass through this, this suffering, this cup. We
must take the cup. Remember, remember the sons of Thunder.
The mother says, I just wondering, you know, goes to Jesus,
I'm wondering if my sons could sit next to you,
you and your throne in heaven. And he says, are
they ready to drink this cup? Are you guys ready
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to drink the cup? They're like, yeah, we think so,
and he goes, because you will, all of us will
drink this cup. And this is not to earn our
co airship that's already ours in Christ, but provided we
suffer with them in order that we may also be
glorified with him. It's coming. It's coming for all of us.
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Death is coming for all of us. It's chasing us
down as we speak, all of us. And we can
either be fearful of that and let the fear drive us,
or we could say this is this is how I
go home, and if we're still here, that means there's
work to be done today. No wasted time, no wasted suffering,
(51:57):
no wasted days, no anger with God. One day everything
will be revealed to us, Like Parker sub that's the
hope we have. What's my time hour, I've got more questions?
How about we do this another podcast, some more good questions,
and you guys comment below if you think that this
is If this is helpful because I have a list,
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a longer list, and we can get through more of
these questions, that spurs different conversations with us. Awesome, See
you guys next week.
What's up.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I'm Granger, I mean man, I'm Tyler, I'm Parker.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
This is nine nine for one podcast. We laugh because
we have been chatting and chatting until we do this
every every time we get together. We chat and then
eventually we start saying we should be recording what we're
saying right now. Thank you guys for listening. We say
all the good stuff, and then we press for we
actually do. Man, we say the good stuff and then
we tame it up. And one of these days we're
(00:26):
gonna do enough episodes where we stop we start taming
it in the podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Everybody fits in the box.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Not to make anybody nervous. I hit record long before
we really started, so I mean, Kayden, up to you,
up to you. Part of it. Part of what we're
talking about is I I just came.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I go from PG thirteen to G real quick. Once
we pressure record.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
There's the clip. And it's not that you're saying it's
not that you're saying thirteen things. You're saying challenging things.
Uh to the world. Yeah, we just speak in my
mind and and I think, yeah, I part of what
we're talking about is I just got off the I
just got off the boat. I just got off the
(01:08):
plane and came straight from the plane to here. And
I flew from Pittsburgh this morning, but drove from Morgantown.
Drove from Morgantown, it's an hour fifteen to Pittsburgh, jumped
on a plane, flew direct here, came straight in to
do this podcast. Well, speaking to a group of men
(01:29):
last night. Actually it was a mixed group. I've been
saying that, but there's a mixed group in West Virginia. Morgantown.
Last night. It was just a day in and day out.
But I was thinking what I did. After I spoke,
I did a Q and A, which I often do,
and this one lasted almost two hours, and so I
(01:50):
got to thinking I was probably thinking about it during
the Q and A, Hey, we should maybe for the
podcast tomorrow when I see the guys, we should talk
about most common questions I get.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Are the questions of majority of the questions. Are they
about what you just spoke on? Or do they go
all over the place? They go all over the place.
But there it's I've done it so many times now,
it's almost always there's there. There are like three or
four that always happen. Loss to some extent, Yeah, we
could go, we could.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I wrote them down here. That's what I would think,
finding a church, reading your Bible. That's usually what I'm
talking about to them, Okay, and then they often don't
go back to that.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
For the questions girlfriend, relationship, h questions, I.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Assume it's like the podcast. That's why I read the
questions that come in. Yeah, side note, we can get in.
I'll read you. I wrote down one, two, three, four.
I wrote down four that I heard yesterday specifically, and
they're common. But I did. I do hear a lot
of people that listen to the podcast at these type events,
and I yesterday I said, besides me, because there were
(02:56):
some kids that they listened to all these episodes, I said,
besides me, was your favorite of the host in the podcast? Unanimous? Man?
I promise, I promise. Why Well, then I pushed him
on it and they said, we just love his name. Okay, God, yeah,
I get it. There's the extent of my popularity.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
Tyler's uh Tyler's responses though.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
People love to but but I will say I also
preached in Austin at Kinney Avenue Baptist Great Church in Austin.
I preached there two days ago, and the pastor's family there.
He has four boys, and they were all about They
were all about Parker. They're all about Fred. Could we
(03:47):
meet Parker? Could we meet Fred? How's Fred doing? Can
you bring Fred to the preaching? You know?
Speaker 5 (03:52):
So?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yeah, Fred's got quite the falling. It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yeah. Parker is the host of the YouTube channel EEE Live,
the most successful gun tuber in all of the world.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Right, Teller, depends on how you're framing it.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I wouldn't say that we're talking to you, Kentucky. You've
been home. What is that, right, Tyler?
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Objectively depends on what you mean by success. You're talking
about revenue. Are you talking about influence or you're talking
about total subscribers? You're talking about views per video?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
What about subscribers and growth?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
You know we were talking yesterday.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Not to get off on a tangent, Kay, you can
cut all this, but you know.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
I'm telling this is what Caden's been dying because Parker.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Parker's just you know, he's with w ME now for
booking sponsors and all that.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
And explain who w ME is?
Speaker 3 (04:44):
William Morris to change names all the time. I think
it's the William Morris Group now used to be William
Morris Endeavor Represents. Used to represent you for booking music
for all your favorite country artists, all your favorite pop artists, whoever,
all those are these days entertainment movies. They booked your
for your movie Moonrise that you put out. The represented
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you for that. So they got in La LA office
and national office, New York office, world somewhere overseas probably,
but anyway. And so they're doing Parker's ad sponsorships within
his YouTube channel, like so a digital division at w ME,
all kinds of divisions. Yeah, but I was saying, you know,
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I've been on this kick about the box lately. Like
you know, Granger Smith was in a box and Earl
was out and he got he was super successful because
nobody was doing that. Everybody can be a country music artist,
so to speak, but nobody can do what Earl was doing.
So people resonated with that. So try to try to
do that in all aspects of every business that we do.
So with Parker now it's like, you know, being with
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WME and and the popularity of his channel, open stores
to do collaborations with with people. So you know, I
was like that would be cool to do. Who who's
coming up on that on the William Morris roster that's
coming up with an album soon. It's like how many bullets?
How many cane brown CDs does it take to stop
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a fifty cow?
Speaker 5 (06:11):
You know?
Speaker 3 (06:11):
And as an artist like that would be a great
marketing tool. You're gonna get literally tens of millions of
views on your new album that's coming out. But then
we're like Parker's listening to like Caigo this morning when
we're working out and so and Parker also mentioned like
clabbing with like Tom Brady, like doing some football challenge,
and like, what should we do a worldwide artist like
a Caigo instead of like the newest country music artists
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like Tucker what Moore or whoever, just to appeal to
a broader audience, kind of like what Dude Perfect does,
mister Beast does. And anyway, I don't know where we're
going with this, but just trying to think outside of
I guess originally you saying biggest gun tuber in the world.
It's like yes, but then we obviously think what's next.
Let's be bigger than just a gun tubing space, and
let's bring in all these other big names and clab
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and what.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Do you add subscribers? You're over seven million right now? Right, yeah,
something like that, because I think Hitcock has like eight Okay,
so you're closing in on the most subscribers outside of
Demo Matt, who's retired, the most subscribers of any gun
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tuber on all of YouTube. I mean, I don't mean
to put you, I know, I don't want to put
pressure on you, like like I'm throwing praise on you
or something. I'm just just statistically speaking. You're pretty cool, dude,
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No praise intended, no praise Intenda's pretty cool, dude, pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
And I will say the reason for the subscriber cou
is because we do YouTube shorts that go really viral,
and so those guys like Hiccup, Hiccock and Demo Ranch
grinded for decades to get what they got and have
a much more loyal following with then YouTube shorts. And
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I know, Tyler you pushed back when I say that,
but just saying it's not the same and what they've
built is like is it was like just it's almost
like the old school, grinded out way. And so thankfully
we've just had a lot of success with YouTube shorts,
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and that's just like the cheat code for subscribers. But
it's crazy, man, like it never it really never ends.
I don't know how far we want to go on
this tangier. I'll just say real quick. I was looking
at two other subscribe YouTubers today and they have like
eleven million subscribers. And then there was a little bar.
I saw one YouTuber and he had four million subscribers,
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and his main header on his homepage was a bar
that showed him at four million, and then it was
like an the rest of the bar was empty. It
was like red, and then the rest was empty to
try to get to ten. I was like, he wants
to get to ten million. He's trying to get everyone
to get into ten million subscribers. And then I saw
another girl. She had twelve and it was at the
very bottom and there's this huge empty spot because she
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wants to get to one hundred. And I just thought,
never ends, dude, Never, It never ends. You're at four
and then you get to ten, and then you're at eleven,
and you're just saying, oh, you got to get to
one hundred.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
What are you doing? You got to get to.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
And if you do, what happens when your hit one hundred,
you know, yeah, everyone's got a hundred one more thing.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
We'll get off this tangent one more thing. But you
can't say, I want to call you out on what
you said. Well, YouTube shorts are a cheat code. That's
not a correct illustration, because that would mean anyone could
do it, and you're in a vein that no one
could do. Right now, you have I just looked, you
have seven point seven point oh five million subscribers. That's
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that you're You're just in a world all by yourself
that only a very very small percentage of people will
ever get to. And so I just want to say,
and you know that we know that the Bible says
that unless the Lord builds it, the one who labors
labors in vain. So your your house, if not built
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by the Lord, will eventually fall. And you are not
the kind of guy that walks around going look at
all my subscribers, look at all you know, you are
the most blue collar man. I'm just checking in the work,
just providing for my family. The type of YouTuber I've
ever ever seen. I've known a lot of famous YouTubers
of our life. I've never seen one like you. That's
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just like, yeah, I do it every every Tuesday at
two o'clock. I go out there and we shoot something
new and we plant it out and then that goes
and edits and you know, and I'm like you just
it's such a job to you and youss versus someone
that actually eats it, eats up the fame itself, and
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that their goal is one hundred million. Their goal is
one hundred million, and they hope to do meet and
greets and they hope to turn this into a million dollars. Yeah,
turn it, turn it completely, turned it into just a
money grab. And here you are on putting out an
episode last or two weeks ago with sharing the gospel,
which is wild, you know, sharing a clear gospel at
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the end of at the end of your shooting. It's
like and knowing that you have a very big international audience,
knowing you have a lot bunch of Indian viewers, right
is that in India is one of the biggest ones.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
India and the Philippines biggest.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
So interesting, so you're you're sharing the gospel internationally and
very intentionally. I think I think if you knew you
couldn't share the gospel, you'd probably quit the channel. If
you knew that there wasn't a gospel, if Christ wouldn't
glorified in it, you just quit the channel. But it's
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pretty cool. It's it's really cool to see.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yeah, thanks man. Well it's all God, because uh I
would I just love the money and love the fame,
and I want to be God and I want people
to worship me. So anything that's not that is just
the Holy Spirit and has nothing attributed to me. I
listened to a great Chris Pratt interview interviewed by Ben
Sass some random collab yesterday, and Chris Pratt was talking
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about his faith and he said he said, life in
that world is just trying to milk what you can
out of it and stay far away, milk a little
bit and just try not to fall in and get
burned and a lot of it. I was like, that's
kind of how I feel. That's kind of how I
feel right now. That's the importance of the local church
and having guys around me that I know will call
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me out.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
So glad you said that. Let's let's hit that real quick.
The importance of a local church that can call you
out on things. They can encourage you and rebuke you.
And that's where you're in a place where I promise you,
if you put on an episode that was somehow compromising
morally in any way, you'd have about four guys meet
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you on Sunday and be like, Hey, we need to
talk about this episode that came out last week. Brother,
Let's talk about this. And that's the accountability that we
not should have, not suggested, have, must have in a
local church. And not only you, but I was thinking
about this the other day too. It's not only a
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church member. You're actually a deacon, so that you know.
But it's but it's not It has nothing to do
with the position that you're in in the church, because
that includes pastors. I know we have a lot of
pastors that listen to this. I talked to them a
lot of times. If I travel, there's a lot of
pastors that listen. So I want to say this too.
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If you're a pastor and you don't have accountability in
your own church, brother, you're putting yourself in danger, and
not only yourself but your flock. And that is a
very scary place to be in. And you might be
doing things biblically right now, and everything might be good.
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But if there is no other brother in your church,
not not outside your but if there's no other brother
in your church that can approach you and say this
is this is not looking good, then you are in
a lot of trouble. And that it would be the
same thing with Parker. Parker was growing a massive channel
like you are. Without anyone that could say, hey, this
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is this is going too far, this actually might be
hurting your heart, then you're in a very scary place.
Fame is a very scary thing, and that could happen
in the pastorate. You could become you could become a
numb to the popularity that you're gaining in the pulpit.
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Very scary, much more scary than YouTube. Which is why
we believe in the Bible that we see pastoring as
in a plurality. It's always, if not at the very beginning,
it's always moving toward a plurality, meaning a pastor's plural.
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So a church begins typically with one or two, but
the result is always moving in the direction of multiple
pastors that have that have equal authority over each other,
not not one head boss pastor and everyone else under him.
You could have a guy that's leading. You have to
you have to have a guy that leads, but that
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leadership does not make you above the other pastors in authority.
There's always making sense. This makes sense, and so I do.
I do feel that sometimes as I'm talking to brothers
that are pastoring churches, and I worry as as you
see a church of a thousand people and there's one
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guy and then he has like three executive guys, but
he's like the main decision maker and he does what
he wants. And he might be doing things right and
biblically for now, but eventually the human heart becomes deceptive
and we start falling into that. So anyway, how about
we talk about common questions that come to me during
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a Q and a Yeah, what is it?
Speaker 5 (16:16):
What would you say is the most So you've been
doing how long have you been going and speaking churches
or events like this?
Speaker 1 (16:24):
So you did it before seven years? I think, let's see,
you did it before the touring stopped. Yeah, I think
seven years. And that's also right around the time I
started doing that on the podcast as well. Yeah, so
I would say that, and it's evolved over the years,
but I love to do the Q and A. I
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love to go somewhere and speak when I can, and
then do a Q and A after I always ask.
In fact, there's only been a couple of times. One
in particular, I think was in Upstate New York, when
the church said I talked to we talked to leadership,
and they said, no, I'm not gonna let you do
that because we don't trust what people are going to
say to you, which is a sign of an unhealthy church.
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That was an unhealthy church.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Sure, So if they were afraid people were going to
ask stuff to you about what they were experiencing at
the church, is.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
What something along those lines. I think they were worried
that somebody might ask some questions that I wouldn't be
able to answer and it could get it could get political,
or it could get you know, controversial. Almost every other
time they say, yeah, we'd love for you to do
Q and A, and that usually brings up really encouraging things.
(17:37):
So I'll do my talk thirty or forty minutes, and
then the Q and A will bring up some really
encouraging questions that weren't in the talk at all, and
it usually makes everyone think. For all the people that
don't raise their hand, and we passed the mic to
they're probably thinking I was thinking that same question. I
didn't ask it. I would say a I'm gonna name
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a few here. This has happened last night.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
This.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
This isn't as popular, but it's still common. A guy asked,
I know you're you've been asking us to read our Bibles?
Why does God sound so harsh in the Bible? So
that was his question, Why does God sound so harsh?
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Why does God? I wrote that down. I think I
wrote it while he said it. I was up on
the podium writing down for this podcast podcast in the
middle of the event, just to say, that's how much
I love this podcast. Why does God sound so harsh.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Talking about Old Testament?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
I'm assuming so that's what That's what I was. That's
what I was assuming. How would you answer that?
Speaker 3 (18:52):
How would I personally answer that? Because he is a
harsh he's a jealous God. Uh well, hang on, a
explain that he doesn't want us.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
That's a complicated topic that you just brought up, but
all that you do doesn't want us worshiping any other
gods but him. It unpacked jealous though, because that says
something to us. Remember Oprah Winfrey was like, as soon
as I found out in the Bible that God's a
jealous God, I said, enough of the Bible for me.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
What.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Yeah, there's a clip of what I've ever seeing that. Yeah,
I mean, I say, what like it's surprising. It's not
really that surprising, but just that specific phrase.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Everybody these days is like everybody all inclusive, love everyone.
It's not what the Lord says.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
So God's jealousy is a perfect jealousy. Our jealousy is
a corrupted jealousy because our jealousy is all about ourselves
and it's selfish. God's jealousy for himself. It's the same
kind of action we want. It's the same action, which
is why it's the same word. If I'm jealous of Amber,
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it's because I want I want the attention that she's
giving to someone else, because I want it, I need it.
It's an example I don't that doesn't happen in our marriage.
I'm just saying God gets jealous in the same direction
I want ant man to. I want him to worship me,
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not other false gods. So it's the same He wants
the same action love, but it's perfect because he does
it not for himself, because he doesn't need it. He
does it for ant Man. He's jealous of ant Man's
love for the for the false idol, for the sake
of ant Man, because he loves ant Man and he knows,
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because he created him, what's best for him.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
And where that would lead my worship of that false
idol and my love for that versa where that would
lead me in life and ultimately eternally my soul.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
That's where he gets jealous.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
We we can't even really comprehend that. No, we can
in our mind like because we can't because, like you
said in the beginning, like our jealous minds are jealous
whatever is completely different from God being jealous. Like we
can kind of understand it. You just said it really well,
but I think you can a little bit a little
bit as a father. When you have kids, things flip
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and change and you start understanding a little bit more
and nowhere near the love and the thought and the
and the complexity of of our God and how he
cares for us. But definitely a relatability that wasn't there before,
Like you know, before kids, everything is about me, Yeah,
in the verse in the Bible that says, the gifts
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that you give your children, how much more exactly for
you when you're when.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Your father is a wicked sinner. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah.
There there's an old analogy of a painting in a
in a museum and it's it's just imagine an incredibly
beautiful painting. It's just amazing, breath taking painting. You've never
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seen a painting this incredible. And if the painting had
a voice, and that the painting could talk. In this illustration,
imagine people walking into the museum and they're walking past
all the exhibits and this paintings in the back. They
walk through all the exhibits and they get to the
back and they're bored, and they're on their phones and
they're looking down. And in that moment, the painting could talk,
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it would say, hey, look to me, don't be distracted,
stop looking at the other distractions of life. Look to me.
The painting in that moment is not speaking. It's jealousy.
In that moment, it's not narcissism. Look to me, because
I need you. I want to feel wanted, I need
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my identity is what other people show to me. I need,
I need, no, No, the painting is already perfect, The
painting is already secure and good. The pain He says,
I want you because I know what happens when you
look at me, the pleasure, the joy that you'll feel
from my beauty.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Look to me, or that's the Or Peter getting out
of the boat. Jesus calls him out of the boat
when he's walking on water and just get out of
the boat. So he gets out of the boat, walks
on water, and then he starts sinking because he started
looking at the storm and the waves and got scared.
Always I love that versee because I always just imagine, Jesus, dude,
look at me, keep your eyes locked in, and it's
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so relevant to us, like keep your eyes on Jesus.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
So in that moment, imagine add the word jealousy to
that word and go, Jesus in that moment was perfectly
jealous of Peter's distraction. Isn't want you drowning? Not? Was
it for Jesus, No, he doesn't want you to drown.
It was for Peter because you're going to sink. You're
going to sink. Look to me, love me, keep your
eyes on me, or you'll sink. Yeah, that's great, that's so.
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So how does all this relate to? Okay, So the kid,
this was like a twelve year old kid that asked
this question, why does God sound so harsh in the Bible?
And I said, well, technically, first of all, you know,
the Old Testament speaks more about God's love than the
New Testament. Okay, And I said, where's your dad? He
pointed down the road, there's his dad. I said, did
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your dad ever get angry with you? Yeah? I said,
when's the last time your dad got harsh with you?
And his dad on the spot and I was like, hey,
I'm not talking about anger, I'm not talking about yelling.
And just when your dad gets stern with you, he
was like a few days ago on the way here,
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and why did he do that? Thought about it for
a second because he loves me. Yeah. Now we're onto something.
I said. You know, a few weeks ago, we went
to we went to go eat. I know, we met
Amber and the kids at a restaurant after church and
Maverick was riding with me. So we pull up. He
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unbuckles his car seat and he jumps out of the
car and you know, I'm gonna go see mama. That's
that's all he's thinking. So I quickly opened the door
and I said, Maverick, harsh, harsh tone, and he stops.
He hears my harsh tone, and he stops and he
turns to me. So in that moment, I used I
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utilized harshness, harsh tone, and a quick, a quick way
to verbalize to him, turn to me, you're in danger
because I love you more than you could possibly understand
right now in your fullness, I love you. And sometimes
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when you're going the wrong direction and you're in danger,
I must speak harsh to you. And that's what God does.
And he was like, I understand now. The kids like
I understand now. Yeah, So yes, sometimes God speaks harsh.
Sometimes we need that. There was a lot of wrong
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direction in the Old Testament too, a lot of too
a lot.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
There's a difference between God's discipline seeming harsh and then
God's judgment seeming harsh. So like what you're just talking
about is God's discipline or like the correcting of his
children for their good versus like a judgment would be
like flooding the earth or destroying Sodom and Gomorrah or
when the guy touches the ark of the Covenant and
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is struck dead, Like there's people who are just struck
dead in the Old Testament. So it kind of depends
on what they mean by the question. But I think
that if you're you hear that, like okay, Noprah hears
that and it's like I'm out. I think it just
comes down to having a false idea of how holy,
a misunderstanding of how holy God is and how serious
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sin is before him, because otherwise it just seems like
he's being meet and he's taken things too seriously because
we just think we're not perfect. But it's not sins
not that big a deal. So anyway, that's my little No,
it's not is holy. When you have a really serious
view of exactly how serious sin is and exactly how
holy and good God is, then it kind of puts
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all of it, all of things that are seemingly harsh
in a perspective.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
God is harsh. The outcome of where you were going
was much worse where he's been harsh in the in
whatever old New Testiment, but Old Testament specifically where they
were headed was way even worse than his His judgment
or not even judgment, but even you actions.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
No, that's good, guys. I Let's see if I could
find something that was so interesting to me. And do
you guys remember when this this this is not highlighted.
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And actually I'm on the fun in here because I
just read it and we see this is just a
small example, and we see this all of the time
in the Bible, and I like to I like to
highlight it in my in my Bible. But do you
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remember when when Jacob, when God visited visits Jacob, and
it's the it's the we call it Jacob slatter. It's
like the that's the popular idea of this is is
Jacob's latter. So in Genesis twenty eight, God visits Jacob
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and he basically appears to him, says, I am the Lord,
your God, the God of Abraham, your father, and the
God of Isaac. And the land on which you lie,
because he was dreaming the land on which you lie,
I will give to you and your offspring. And your
offspring will be like dust of the earth. And you
shall spread abroad to the west and to the east,
and to the north and to the south. And in
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you your offspring shall be all the families, all the
families of the earth shall be blessed, which we know
is the promise that happens through Christ. Eventually, behold, I
am with you, and I will keep you wherever you go,
and I will bring you back to this land. I
will not leave you until I have done what I
have promised you. And then Jacob awoke and said, surely
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the Lord is in this place, and I did not
know it, which is an interesting thing of how God
comes to us when we do not know him. God
visits Jacob, and so all this just beautiful story. Right.
God visits and says, I'm the God of your fathers.
I will give you this land, and you're gonna have offspring,
and we're gonna bless all the nations of the earth.
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But what we miss is verse seventeen is when he
wakes up and he was a raid and said, how
awesome is this place? Quickly goes by, but you see
it all over the Bible. The encounter with the Lord
brings fear, and it goes to what you're saying, I
brought this up because of that. Once we start to
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understand his holiness and how awesome he is, that there's
a new reverence that comes and a new way of
thinking about his harshness because we sit under his we
feel small in the presence of his greatness. And that
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is a really good thing to ponder. Because Jacob says,
or the Bible says of Jacob, and he was afraid
and said, how awesome is this place? This is none
other than the House of God, and this is the
gate of heaven, he says in Genesis twenty eight seventeen.
Such a good reminder. All right, you want another question, Yeah,
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So first was harshness of God? So harsh the next one?
It it flows right into it. I get this almost
every single time I speak, almost every single time, and
it flows from this exact conversation we're having right now.
What do you What do you say to someone who's
been through trials in their life and they can't get
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past being angry with God? Now, I've heard that so
many times, and I'm so used to it that I
will typically just and I'll press in immediately, and I'll say,
are we talking about you or some of one of
your friends, one of my friends, this is last night,
one of my friends. Is that friend sitting in your
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row right now? And then you can see everyone like
gets uncomfortable. Yeah it's him, say okay, oh wow, And
then I'll say brother. Once I know who I'm talking to,
I'll say brother, I'm going to tell you something. And
I didn't fly all the way here to Morgantown to
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coddle or to to make sure I'm not offending anybody.
I only flew here because I want to tell you
the truth. Because I want to see I want to
see you worship God for who he is. That's why
I came here. That's my purpose is not to caudle
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or make everyone like me. It's because I've done that
in my life. My past life. All I did was
make people want to like me and make people want
to laugh and smile. That's all I used to do.
I don't not in that business anymore. I only came
here away from my family to tell you the truth.
And I'll tell you the truth. Anyone that is struggling
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with being angry with God is not knowing who God
is every time, because if you knew who he is,
as He's revealed himself in Scripture, then you not be
angry with him. Being angry with him is always a
product of a misunderstanding, and it's always a product of
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you lessening him to a smaller God that he is not,
And then that always they always stood on that for
a second, like whoa, this dude just lost his kid, man?
And which is actually the case? They lost a child
six years ago and they're angry with God, And I'm
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so sorry for your loss. I truly am so sorry
for your loss. I hate that for you. And to
question God to say how long? O Lord? Why? God?
Those are biblical questions? What would you have me to do? Now? Lord?
Those are biblical questions? How long will you will I
be in this kind of pain? Will I have this
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torment in my soul? Will I will I be so dejected?
How long? God? Those are biblical questions. But to say
I'm angry with you God is to think of him
as lesser than he is every time, and so to truly,
to truly see him for who he is is the
ailment for all sickness, are all misunderstanding?
Speaker 3 (34:31):
So how do you see who he is? To answer
the question, or it's like, Okay, I get it, I
don't know who he is? So how to I find
out who he is? And I know that's a loaded question,
But is there something specific like if you had five
minutes with that guy to answered the question like where
do you go?
Speaker 1 (34:46):
The nineteenth century famous preacher that we all know, Charles Spurgeon,
he once opened a sermon like this. The highest science,
the loftiest speculation, the mightiest philosophy which could ever engage
the attention of a child of God is the name,
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the nature, the person, the work, the doings, and the
existence of the great God, whom he calls his Father.
Would you lose your sorrow, would you drown your cares?
Then go plunge yourself, and the Godhead's deepest sea, be
lost in its immensity, and you shall come forth as
from a couch of rest, refreshed and invigorated. I know
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nothing which could so comfort the soul, so calm the
swelling billows of sorrow and grief. So speak peace to
the winds of trial as a devout earnest continued investigation
upon the great subject of the Godhead. Most people don't
think of God as Charles Spurgeon did, but he is right.
(35:54):
The cure to every ailment is an intense investigation, meditation
on the person and nature, as revealed in our Bible
of who our creator is.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Okay, So the answer is not the quick fix, like
everybody wants the quick pill, what medication. It's you're saying,
a lifelong learning through the Bible, through the local church,
through reading books by Charles Spurgeon, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Ultimately, ultimately yes, but but at the very beginning, not necessarily.
I think if someone was really struggling with anger with God,
what really is happening is they're not a Christian or
and and people might hear that, go, well, Granger, who
(36:49):
are you to judge? You know, people say that kind
of stuff, but we know we know people by their fruits.
And someone that truly a Christian is someone that finds
great joy and knowing more and more and more and
more of God. And the evidence of not knowing him
is being angry with him, is thinking smaller of him.
(37:10):
And that's usually evidence of you're either not a Christian
or you're a very immature, milk drinking Christian. I say
that in no way of shaming anyone. I say that
because I was that guy. I lived that life for
many many years, and I wish I had heard a
(37:31):
podcast where someone said, hey, man, either you're not a
Christian or you're very, very extremely weak and immature and
in a dangerous place. I wish someone had told me
that in like.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Late twenty nineteen, before you were saved in your state
after losing riv, were you angry with God?
Speaker 1 (37:54):
I don't ever remember a moment of being angry with
God after we lost Dad. I think I might have
been more more of that, but I think I think
I remember after losing Dad, I just felt like, why
are you so silent? That's what I remember thinking of God,
(38:18):
Like can you like not just send an eagle or something.
I remember being standing out in the field that that
that was overgrown. You know that Dad always mode. There
was the food plot actually that now you mo Tyler,
But that food plot was overgrown because we lost Dad
in March and it was like May. It was just
full of grass. And I was like standing out there
(38:40):
like this, this field is overgrown because Dad's not here.
Why is he gone? Where are you?
Speaker 3 (38:47):
God?
Speaker 1 (38:47):
What are you doing? God? Can't you just is there
any comfort you can give me? Is there anything like
a cloud can roll by anything? And there was nothing,
And I was so I don't think really but just
confused why he was so silent. I know now I wasn't.
I actually was not a Christian.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Then, he wasn't silent. And the fact that that field
was overgrown and he was growing it because of his
son and because of his soil, because of his reign.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
You know, it's his.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
It's the Lord's field, not dad's. Dad was just a
temporary steward of that land.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
I wasn't a Christian then, yeah. And God is not silent.
We have his living, breathing, inspired word, you know.
Speaker 5 (39:32):
I I have.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
I have the words of God right now.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. But like, can I see
an eagle or something?
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Yeah, I feel that it's like a red cardinal.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
There's kind of seriously like that that's not enough, you
know to most people.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Yeah yeah. Could I see like a red cardinal come
to the windowsill and like peck on the glass, then
I would then I would know there's a God.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
That's Can I play a sixty seven second John Piper short? Yes,
just because it was kind of related. I heard it
this morning.
Speaker 6 (40:00):
I don't care how rich you are, you can't run
from it.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
You're going to suffer. Are you willing to stay with
him through all your suffering? You're going to.
Speaker 6 (40:09):
Suffer folks period.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
The question is will you do it with him? Will
all your suffering.
Speaker 6 (40:16):
Be sanctified by the conscious confidence? This for me is
disciplined from my father to knock all the props of
self reliance out from under.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
My life, so that I lean wholly on him.
Speaker 6 (40:35):
If we fallen people were not brought into trial after
trial after trial, I would fall ever more deeply in
love with the eases and comforts and prosperity and delights
physically of my life, and forget God. That's why he
(40:57):
knows us.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
He's a father.
Speaker 6 (40:59):
He disciplines all of his children. He knows a therapy
that you need in order to make it to the inheritance.
And the therapy is different for everybody. John Piper's suffering
regimen is different from yours. I don't like mine, but
(41:20):
I do not get angry at my God. I have
a doctor who must break my leg to save me
or amputate it because it's got cancer.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
And I love my surgeon.
Speaker 6 (41:35):
I love him because he loves me far more than
I love myself.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
I'm glad we got a special guests after John say
to give us a little piece of this. I have
a doctor who will break my leg to save my life?
Who will amputate it because it has cancer? I think
that is a great way of looking at this. Ultimately,
(42:04):
God took my son so that I would see what
it meant for him to give his son. M hmm. Yeah.
Being angry with God is a sign a check engine
light that that you should have checked out because it's
(42:24):
an it's not good. It's a sign of of of
a weak faith or a non existent faith. And especially
in the case of last Night, for six or seven years,
it's a big problem. As as Spurgeon said, a and
a long meditation on God's word as we're reading through
(42:47):
the Bible, not just picking verses that we want to
see what does it What does it say about suffering?
What does it say about marriage? What does it say
about you know? Instead working through I mean, just work
through the Genesis narrative. Really work through Genesis and Exodus,
and that alone you will walk away from the end
(43:08):
of Genesis by chapter fifty and go, oh, this God
is in control, This God knows. This God is all powerful,
This God is all loving, this God is all planning.
There is nothing escaping this God. Just from fifty chapters
of Genesis, you could recognize quickly. I lost my dad
(43:31):
and it wasn't lost on God. God wasn't playing ketchup
to an accident that happened on this earth. Oh he
knew every day that was formed for me and every
day that was formed for my dad. Oh he knew.
So I don't get angry that somehow he missed it
or somehow he planned it in some way to hurt me.
(43:54):
If it happened, it happened for the collective good, for
his glory. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Either Romans eight twenty eight is true or it's not.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Yeah, what's Romans eight twenty eight?
Speaker 2 (44:05):
For God works all things for the good of those
who love him or called according to his purpose. So
He's going to work every good or seemingly terrible thing
in your life ultimately for your good.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
I like the quote. I think it was J. I.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Packer who said, there's literally nothing that God's going to
withhold from you that's not for your spiritual eternal good.
And ultimately, I think that becoming angry with God is
just a matter of unbelief that he's actually holding out
on you, which is like the original sin in the garden.
Speaker 5 (44:36):
The important part to think of that scripture is the
is you just said, it is the good and the bad.
Of course we can see the good. If we can
see the good, we're like we can understand the good
of how he would use that to work or good.
It's the challenge is the bad and that's the all things.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
I like what Granger said of like it's easy you
just kind of go to the Bible for particular answers
for certain questions and just stay there. But I want
her to describe that like Biblical theology is like walking
through a garden and taking a rose from each of
God's attributes and different examples in scripture of his sovereignty
and his love and his holiness and what he thinks
(45:20):
about sin and salvation and in times and like all
of these aspects, and you have this huge bouquet of
God and then you can see Him in his fullness
there and then that's how you react to life afterwards.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
Ironically, one of the questions last night was about Romans
eight twenty eight. A guy raised his hand and said,
if God's working all things for good, as it says
in Romans eight twenty eight, how come we can't see
that good? And what good could possibly come out of
some of the things that I've seen in my life.
And I said, well, first, I said, let's stop right there,
(45:58):
and that's that's that's Bible picking. And we don't want
to just hit here and pick the verses that we
like and just and try to isolate them from the rest.
I said, hey, let's start reading. Let's read some more
Romans eight. So I think I sat there in front
of all those people and I started in verse twelve,
and it's just Romans eight. It's all of it's beautiful.
(46:21):
I started in Romans twelve or eight twelve, and are
read all the way down past twenty eight. But part
of it is Paul says, for I consider that the
sufferings at this present time are not worth comparing with
the glory that is to be revealed to us. And
for the Creation waits with eager longing for the revealing
of the sons of God. For creation was subjected to futility,
(46:43):
not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it. And
hope that the creation itself would be set free from
its bondage to corruption and obtain the freedom of the
glory of the children of God. For we know that
the whole creation has been groaning together in pains of
childbirth until now, and not only so. I'm just like,
we have to take what you're saying in Romans eight
(47:04):
twenty eight in the context of what Paul was saying.
I said, I wonder if sometimes, if Paul, if he
could possibly know, did you know that there's people that
took one of your letters and took one line from
it and just lived their life just from one line,
which it's the word of God. So it's not a
wrong thing to do. But I think Paul would be like,
but that's my whole argument came before and after that,
(47:26):
you know. So it's not a sin to take a
verse and hang it in your kitchen. That's a great
thing to do. But to build your entire theology over
without the context of to be able to ask a
question like the guy said, where's the good in this?
Paul explains this. You know, you can't just take Romans
eight twenty eight and go this is such a mystery
(47:49):
to me. No, it's in the letter that Paul wrote.
That's a very long letter. You should read it. It's
really good. The visual when he ask you ask a
question like that is zooming in on a painting.
Speaker 5 (48:02):
Is that we're using paintings and museums running on this
podcast is zooming in so close to you just see
pixels or you know, some brushstrokes and stuff.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
You're like, what good is in this? Yeah? I don't know.
Speaker 5 (48:15):
It just looks like a block doesn't matter, and you
zoom out and it's the Mona Lisa. Yeah, you know,
Well you got to look at the whole thing to
understand the beauty of it all, not just the good,
not just the zoomed in portion.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
Of and then leaving room for the mystery and that
you're not some things you're not going to know on
this side of eternity, that we're finite beings trying to
understand an infinite God. And it reminds me of Spurgeon
who goes up to the orphanage and he and he
goes up to the boy who's gonna die in a
few weeks he has he's really sick, and Spurgeon's laying
with him at his bedside. He says, nurse, HOWI is
(48:50):
and he goes, not good.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
He hasn't.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
He tossed and turned and coughed all night, and he
said and he said, he went up to the boy
and he said, do you trust in Jesus? And the
boy said, and he said, I know, it seems unfair
that you're lying here in this bed and all the
other boys are outside and they get to play, and
you can hear him out the window. But soon you
will see Jesus face to face and you will ask
(49:12):
him why, and he will tell you, and you will
be so glad. So there's this sense that, like, I know,
it doesn't seem fair, But you'll see him soon and
you'll ask him and he'll give you the answer and
you'll be so glad.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
Meditate on this for a second. Romans eight sixteen. The
Spirit himself bears witness with our spirit that we are
children of God, and if children, then heirs, heirs of
God and fellow ers with Christ, provided we suffer with
Him in order that we may also be glorified with Him.
(49:52):
Which of us in this room would deserve such a thing? Yeah, Yeah,
to be heirs of the king.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
It's hard to read that and be like get excited.
It's like, you know, not me, I don't deserve that.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
Yeah. So for now we've grown in these in this
the sin that we live in the word the fallen world.
Are even our bodies that are every day aging and
breaking or getting worse in the in the world we
see and the wars and the the craziness we see,
and even in our own government. Yeah, it's going to happen.
(50:27):
Hold fast, this, this suffering has to happen. Each of
us in this room. One day we're going to get
a phone call. Somebody we dearly love is dead, or
they have cancer, or they have heart disease. Everyone, everyone
in this room. It's either that call is coming to
us or it will be us. It's coming for us.
(50:49):
We must pass through this, this suffering, this cup. We
must take the cup. Remember, remember the sons of Thunder.
The mother says, I just wondering, you know, goes to Jesus,
I'm wondering if my sons could sit next to you,
you and your throne in heaven. And he says, are
they ready to drink this cup? Are you guys ready
(51:11):
to drink the cup? They're like, yeah, we think so,
and he goes, because you will, all of us will
drink this cup. And this is not to earn our
co airship that's already ours in Christ, but provided we
suffer with them in order that we may also be
glorified with him. It's coming. It's coming for all of us.
(51:34):
Death is coming for all of us. It's chasing us
down as we speak, all of us. And we can
either be fearful of that and let the fear drive us,
or we could say this is this is how I
go home, and if we're still here, that means there's
work to be done today. No wasted time, no wasted suffering,
(51:57):
no wasted days, no anger with God. One day everything
will be revealed to us, Like Parker sub that's the
hope we have. What's my time hour, I've got more questions?
How about we do this another podcast, some more good questions,
and you guys comment below if you think that this
is If this is helpful because I have a list,
(52:19):
a longer list, and we can get through more of
these questions, that spurs different conversations with us. Awesome, See
you guys next week.
Host
Granger Smith
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