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July 20, 2025 • 31 mins
  1. Immigration and Border Security

    • Criticism of the Biden administration’s immigration policies.
    • Discussion of ICE arrests in Houston, Texas, highlighting criminal records of certain undocumented immigrants.
    • Argument that illegal immigration affects congressional representation due to census counts.
    • Claims that Democrats support open borders for political gain.
  2. Bill Maher and Immigration Debate

    • A segment where Bill Maher debates a liberal actor about immigration.
    • Maher expresses support for border enforcement and criticizes the idea of unlimited immigration.
  3. Epstein Files Controversy

    • Criticism of how the Trump administration and conservative influencers handled the release of Epstein-related documents.
    • Accusations of political opportunism by both Republicans and Democrats.
    • Commentary on the FBI’s alleged mishandling of the Epstein case and calls for transparency.
  4. Medicaid and Illegal Immigration

    • Texas Representative Wesley Hunt questions New York’s Medicaid coverage for undocumented immigrants.
    • Discussion of Section 1115 waivers and how they may be used to provide benefits to illegal immigrants.
    • Criticism of New York’s policies and calls for transparency in Medicaid enrollment data.
  5. Economic Commentary

    • Brief promotion of investing in precious metals (gold and silver) as a hedge against economic uncertainty.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Bill Maher clashed with a liberal actor over Donald Trump
and immigration policy. This at the same time as ICE
agents have arrested one three hundred and sixty one criminal
aliens in Houston, Texas alone in June. Now, among the
aliens arrested, we're thirty two child predators, nine murderers, sixteen

(00:27):
gang or cartel members, and one alien convicted for hijacking
an airplane. That's just the highlight reel of what was
taking on the streets just in Houston, Texas. Because we
have law and order that this president is advocating for. Now,
Bill Maher talking with this liberal actor clashing over immigration,

(00:49):
and I want you to hear what was said.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Part of this is a backlash to how badly Biden
handled the immigration situation. It can't just be like, come one, all, which.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Is plenty of There's plenty of room here and we
need room, Lettie, There's plenty of room in America.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Come on, there's not a lack of room. It's never
about room.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
It's about resources and about like having a countries have
to have a border. You can it just can't be.
I mean, they've done surveys and something like two hundred
million people around the world when asked, would you come
to America if you couldn't? Yes, I would. Why wouldn't they?
Lots of countries excuse me, are polls right? And they
would love to be here? You can't right, right, the

(01:32):
places aren't, but well they are.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Well they are, Mars said on his podcast, and immigration
had gotten so out of control under the Biden administration
that he understands now why Donald Trump is doing what
he's doing, and also just being honest. Are you a
country if you don't have a border, No, you are
not a country. And this idea from this liberal actor

(01:57):
is like, well, there's plenty of room here. There's plenty
of room in America. Come on, there's no lack of
room in America's is the logic, right? Can you imagine
two hundred million people just randomly showing up in the
United States of America because he said, they did this
survey something like two hundred million people around the world
would ask would you come to America? If you could
say yes? And he said, again, why wouldn't they? Lots

(02:18):
of countries excuse me, are blank holes and they would
love to be there. Now that's the same thing that
Trump said. Remember several years ago, they're like, oh my gosh,
you're racist. I'm sure they won't say bo Mar's racist
because he's on the left, but I mean Donald Trump
was fiercely criticized by the left when his first term
when he said the same thing about Haiti and El Salvador.

(02:39):
He said the places and then this acts are like, well,
they're not blank holes, and Bill Maher doubled down, well,
they are. That's why they want to come here. Why
do you think two hundred million people around the world
say if they could come to America they would. But
this is part of what the left is their whole goal.
Go back to the census for a second. If you

(03:01):
count illegal immigrants, which we do in our census, it
changes in a hard core way, in a massive way.
How many people are how many congressmen come from those areas.
Think about sanctuary cities and large cities like let's go

(03:22):
to Minneapoli, Saint Paul. They have more congress people there
because they have a large population and a lot of
his legal immigrants. Look at the whole state of California
is another example. Look at la They are overly represented
compared to other parts in the country because they count
illegal immigrants. Look at I mean, you can go anywhere
in the country with a sanctuary city. New York City
is another example, Chicago is another example. The list goes

(03:44):
on and on. Why do you think Democrats have no
problem with flooding this country legal immigrants because they know
that when they go to the sanctuary cities, that means
they get more people in Congress, which means they have
a better chance of having the majority instead of the minority.
And so we shouldn't by the way, in my opinion,
I don't think this should be controversial, by the way
at all. We should not be counting illegal immigrants in

(04:09):
the census. Illegal immigrants also shouldn't be getting government benefits
when they're here illegally. We should have actual borders. We
shouldn't have open borders. And you're not a country if
you don't have defined borders. All of these things are
a reality of the conversation that desperately needs to be had.

(04:30):
And look, the American people stood with the President of
the United States of America on this issue. That's why
it got elected, because the majority of Americans said, we
are sick and tired of what we're witnessing right now.
And we are sick and tired of having these open borders,
and we want a country. We want to be a
country of laws that are in force. We don't want

(04:51):
people coming into this country, taking from us and maybe
having no allegiance to this country, or not even knowing
who they are, which brings me back to the second
narrative that we're dealing with here. ICE has arrested one
three hundred and sixty one criminal aliens in the Houston

(05:13):
area in June alone. US Immigration custom Enforcement arresting these
aliens during their month that they say is truly shocking.
These are people that have been convicted of criminal offenses
after legally entering the United States of America. At the
website for ICE, they actually put this out quote. Despite

(05:37):
attempts by some to underminor mission by spreading false and
malicious rumors, the brave men and women of ICE continue
to work tirelessly around the clock targeting dangerous criminal aliens
to restore integrity to our nation's immigration system and bolster
public safety in our communities. That's what ICE Enforcement and
Removal Operations Houston Acting Field Office Director said in a statement.

(05:58):
Went on to say this the number of dangerous criminal
aliens that were removed from local communities across south East
Texas last month is just another example of their selfless
and unyielding effort to return our local communities to places
where we can all raise our families without having to
worry about child predators, gang members, cartel members, other violent

(06:20):
criminal aliens praying on our loved ones. Now you go
back to the list, and again the Democrats and the
media want you to believe that everybody that's getting arrested
right now is just some kind loving person that just
happens to be in this country illegally and they really
didn't do anything wrong. We don't even think they broke
the law, all right, Look at the list. Among the
criminal aliens arrested in June by ice Houston Field Office,

(06:42):
you had a fifty six year old criminal alien from
Cuba arrested by ICE who was convicted in three of
hijacking an airplane traveling from Cube to Key West, Florida.
You have a forty seven year old criminal alien from
Mexico and a former gang member arrested by ICE who
was illegally entering who had illegally entered the country six

(07:04):
times and had been convicted twice for trafficking cocaine and
once for attempted murder. Another arrest for evading arrest, illegal entry,
in drug possession. You had another twenty nine year old
six time deported criminal alien from Mexico arrested by ICE
who had been convicted of homicide, had been convicted of
aggravated robbery, convicted of burglary of a vehicle, and drug possession.

(07:29):
You had another forty year old criminal from Mexico arrested
by Ice June the twenty fourth, who has illegally entered
the US four times and been convicted of sexual assault
of a miner and also been convicted of theft. You
had a fifty one year old criminal alien from Mexico
arrested by ICE who had been convicted of sexual indecency
with a minor, criminal trespassed with a deadly weapon, driving

(07:54):
while intoxicated, and unauthorized use of a firearm. Now the
arrest are parts of just the Houston Fields Office routine
immigration enforcement activities being conducted alongside federal, state and local
law enforcement agencies. They say daily throughout the Southeast Texas
to enhance public safety, national security, and border security. So

(08:15):
they put this out we see all these pictures, we realize,
oh wait, these are actually really bad Own Brais. They're
not just grabbing some random person off the street, which
is what the left wants you to believe that there's
some grandmother who's been there for thirty five years and
that's who Ice is going after. It's pretty darn clear, okay,

(08:38):
that there are really bad own Braids. There are really
evil and sick people out there that are doing heinous
crimes to our community and killing our communities. Right. They're
killing our communities with fetnel. You look at the number
one killer of young people forty five hundred. What is

(09:01):
it? It's fetanl You think the Democratic Party gives the rats
we're in about the people that die today from fetanol
accidal overdoses. They do not care, and they'll never care,
because this is about power. This is about votes, This
is about the census, This is about eventually giving them
and turning them into the best way I can describe

(09:25):
it is American citizens. They want them here, and they
want as many of them here as they can get
their hands on. That's why they opened our borders. And
they knew that all the people that we're arresting, right,
now they knew that all of them that were coming
into this country were doing terrible things. They knew that

(09:45):
they that they were lying to the American people, and
they didn't care because they wanted to change the country.
They wanted to change the country fundamentally. I want to
pivot real quick to the Epstein Files, because I promise
you I was going to talk about this and it's important.
This is a colossal pr failure by the Republicans. I

(10:08):
want to be very clear about this. The fact that
the White House and Pambondi brought a bunch of conservative
influencers to the White House, gave them what was the
Epstein Files, you know, part one binders, which was all
information we already knew before, sent them out in front
of the media, and had them walking out of the
White House holding these binders up like it was some

(10:29):
amazing thing. That was just a dumb move. The reason
why I say it's a dumb move is because of
what we are now witnessing, which is they're now saying like,
all right, well, there may not be anything there. I
don't buy that for a second. I also want to
be clear about that, like I don't believe that there's
nothing there yet. I think much of the Epstein files

(10:51):
that have been redacted have need to be unredacted, and
we need to see what's there. I also think this
goes back to one of the basic issues, and the
FBI deputy senior National Intelligence officer was caught on tape
confessing that the FBI turned blind eye in the Epstein case.
So that's the other reason why I want more answers.

(11:12):
I'm not willing to let it go. Listen, I'm with
this shows.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
I do a lot of kind of like countering white supremacy.
You think the last the last two and a half years,
Love was at the White House.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, and they kind of got moved.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
Back after the whole with the new administration coming in.

Speaker 5 (11:30):
But yeah, small lay.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
It's kind of been watching the ex document. You know,
they're trying to.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
Try to release some of the files like the White
House losses.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Oh yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
It's just a messy. Like but because they even invited
some of like the block like go like the influencers
and like right wings loggers and so release the files.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
I see, he's a little weird.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
Just release it on one's see where law enforcement kind
of either turn a blind eye or like miss miss things,
and there's opportunities just from hearing and listening.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
I mean, you listen to that. This is an FBI
deputy senior intelligent National intelligence officer confessing the FBI turned
a blind eye and the Epstein case caught on OMG.
James O'Keeffe undercover video and you look at this and
you're like, really, now, I'm not surprised. And the problem
now is many conservatives are angry over this because we

(12:27):
were promised the Epstein file, and I do believe the
White House should release whatever they do have, and they
oversold it. Pambondi oversold it. I think that's pretty clear now.
And if there is not a big thing there, then
I want to know about the cover up of it,
because I don't believe Jeffrey Epstein got to where he
was without being able to blackmail people to make all

(12:47):
of his money and abusing young girls, and that there
was a client list Jeffrey Epstein. Is this whole issue
now that the president made an issue when he was
running for president. People are like, I want the payoff.
I want to see this now. I want to know
what's going on now. Well, let me also let you
understand what Democrats are doing, and this is very smart politically. Okay,

(13:09):
I want to be clear about that. This is extremely
smart politically, hikme. Jeffries came out today and just ripped Republicans,
and now Democrats like, we demand the Epstein file, something
they didn't give a crap about when Joe Biden was president,
but now they want it. And the reason why is

(13:29):
because they want to make the president look like he's
covering for conservatives, or he was a liar, or that
Pambandi's a liar. And they understand that there's blood in
the water on this one with conservative voters, and they're
they're now like, let's exploit it. Listen carefully to his words.

Speaker 6 (13:45):
The American people deserve to know the truth, the whole truth,
and nothing but the truth as it relates to this
whole sordid Jeffrey Epstein matter. Democrats didn't put the Jeffrey
Epstein thing into the public domain. This was a conspiracy
that Donald Trump, Pambondy and these MAGA extremists have been
fanning the flames of for the last several years, and

(14:08):
now the chickens are coming home to roost. The American
people deserve to know the truth. What, if anything, is
the Trump administration and the Department of Justice hiding. What
are you hiding. If you're not hiding anything, prove that
to the American people. And if you are trying to
hide something, as many of Donald Trump's MAGA supporters apparently believe,

(14:35):
then the Congress should actually work hard to try to
uncover the truth for the American people. There are only
two things that are possible here. Option one, Donald Trump,
Pambondy and the MAGA extremists intentionally lied to the American
people for years about the Jeffrey Epstein situation. That's option one.

(15:02):
Option two is that in fact, there's reason for the
American people to be concerned as it relates to what
information has not been released that could be damaging to
the Trump administration and the friends and family of the
Trump administration. And they're billionaire, corrupt supporters, and so they're

(15:26):
actively engaging in a cover up. Option one, they live
for years. Option two, they're engaging in a cover up.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Now let me go back to the politics. This This
is like one of the smartest political moves I've seen
by Democrats and Hakeem Jeffreys. I'll give credit where credits
due on this one, like this is a smart political move.
The Republicans overplayed their hand and under delivered, and now
people that are supporters of Donald Trump are angry and

(15:59):
it looks like there is some sort of cover up here.
Whether there is or not, it doesn't matter. It looks
like it. And so what they're doing is they're seizing
this opportunity to do this. I'll give you this. Mark
Mark Theessen, by the way, on Fox News Sunday, said
this about the fallout over the doj Epstein memo. Some

(16:20):
damage from this. That's that to me is the reality here.

Speaker 5 (16:23):
Ninety one indictments, the Mueller probe, two impeachments, civil suits
to bankrupt him. But the Biden people had had the
Epstein files with Trump's name in it and they didn't
use it.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
You break.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
I want to make sure.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
I love that, by the way. I love the fact
he's like Biden's people had the Epstein files of Trump's
name in it and they didn't use it. Give me
a break. He's right, And the point is like, don't
get yourself in a bad situation for no reason. And
I think Republicans need to fight back on this one.
And they need to. They need to put it out there,
whatever it is, and and and get the reactions out

(16:59):
of the files. Whatever we do have to show the
American people. I think it's time for the American people
to see it. But if again Democrats smell blood in
the water. On ABC this week, they were like, Wow,
the White House needs to come clean about the Epstein files,
implying that there's a bunch of Republicans or Donald Trump's

(17:20):
name in the Epstein file. Again using this politically, it's scumbagery,
but it's brilliant.

Speaker 7 (17:25):
I mean, the Attorney General Pambondi went to the public
and said all kinds of things about this. She said
there was a list, there was files, they had people,
you know that was in front of the White House,
in front of the West Wing, that they had the
influencers out there. So, I mean, there's a very legitimate
question here. Number one, was she lying then or is

(17:46):
she lying now? She's the Attorney general. I do think
she should go in front of Congress and sort of
just explain the facts here, because ultimately it is a
big question. Was she just prancing around making things up?
You're not really supposed to do that. As the jorneys,
and then second of all, they say, you know that

(18:07):
everyone's acting like they don't know what the conspiracy theory is.
The conspiracy theory is that the client list has Donald
Trump on it and that's why his government is holding
it back. And I think you should just we need
to have people honestly answer questions in front of Congress
or the press, to just have this out once in
front of the overall problem.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Like they're they're playing into this beautifully because it was
over sold and you can't oversell it and then all
of a sudden just run away from it like it
never happened. Democrats are going to seize this moment until
you get it all out there and you show all
of it. And they're going to keep quoting Pambondi, and

(18:52):
they're going to keep quoting Dan Bongino, and they're going
to keep quoting everybody that's made any quote about Epstein.
And you know, yeah, I'm glad there's some out there
that are actually attacking also the hypocrisy on the left.
Chris Cromo, for example, blasted AOC this week for suddenly
caring about the Epstein files because she didn't care about
him before, only because she's going to score political points

(19:15):
on Republicans. Now.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
AOC has had nothing to say about the attacks on
the ICE agents.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Can you believe that?

Speaker 3 (19:21):
But the Epstein fiasco gets her attention. You see what
she posted today? Wow, who'd have thought that electing a
rapist would have complicated the release of the Epstein files.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Hope it goes viral because that's all you're about.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
What have you ever done to fight for the release
of the Epstein files?

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Huh?

Speaker 3 (19:38):
You sent out a few tweets over the years just
to try to what ride the wave? Where are your resolutions?
Where are your speeches on the floor, where are your demands?

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Nothing?

Speaker 3 (19:49):
Just like the rest of your propaganda and your false promises.
It's great for you for being developing a following, but
it's not much in terms of being a leader when
you get nothing done and play the game of advantage.
You want know better than the people you think you
oppose on the right.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
I couldn't agree with Chris Croma more for blasting AOC
for suddenly caring about the Epstein files, and she never
cared about before all because she wants to score a
political point, not protect kids, not protect people that were
abused by Jeffrey Epstein and his friends. No, no, no, no, no,
none of that matters. There has been a question that

(20:25):
many Republicans have been asking, how many illegal immigrants are
actually receiving access to Medicaid benefits. Now, if you ask
the Democratic Party, they will tell you that there isn't
a single illegal immigrant that is receiving Medicaid benefits. Insert
a brilliant move by Texas Representative Wesley Hunt. He's now

(20:49):
demanding data from the New York governor over how many
of the states estimated six hundred and seventy thousand illegal
immigrants are actually receiving access to those Medicaid benefits that
Democrats say, well, it's not happening at all. Hunt, a Republican,
decided to just straight up ask the question directly to

(21:10):
the governor on Monday, raising questions about how the Empire
State has leveraged waivers to actually allow its Medicaid program
to operate differently from federal standards and mandates. Governor Hochel
is required to report this information to the federal government.
So the question is simple, will she comply or continue

(21:35):
to harbor lawbreakers while putting the health care of law
abiding citizens at risk. Hunt said in a statement to
the New York Posts, this is what democratic leadership looks like.
Open borders, benefits for illegal aliens, and betrayal of the
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(24:52):
illegal immigrants in the Empire State. In fact, it is
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benefited from Section one one one five waivers, which allows
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(25:16):
seventy million low income Americans, and now the question is
how many illegals. A spokesperson for the governor quickly fired
back at Congressman Hunt and argued that he should have
focused on opposing the One Big Beautiful Bill Act over
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(25:40):
if Representative Hunt were truly concerned about the health and
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(26:00):
the spokesperson for the governor did not answer the question
how many illegal immigrants are receiving benefits? This is just
another pitiful attempt. The governor's office went on to say
to divert attention from Republican actions to eliminate healthcare for
one point five million New Yorkers and deny food security

(26:22):
access to millions of seniors and children. You'll notice in
that statement, yet again the governor New York refusing to
answer the question how many illegal immigrants are taking government benefits. Now,
state officials have told the New York Posts that, quote,
most undocumented individuals are not eligible for full medicaid coverage.

(26:46):
Now notice the words they used, most undocumented individuals are
not eligible for quote full medicaid coverage. By the way,
that statement would also be true for most American citizens
are not eligible for full Medicaid coverage, and that the
small group that is enrolled in the state's program has

(27:10):
not benefited they claim from federal dollars. Now, New York
also claimed that spending was unrelated to the one to
one one five waivers. Well, then why would the Governor
New York not answer this simple question that was put
to her by Wesley Hunt. Now, Hunt noted that the
Biden administration had rejected the use of those waivers for

(27:34):
states like South Carolina, Arizona, and other states. The Texas
Republican stress that the waivers were not intended to allow
illegal immigrants to benefit American tax dollars going for their
healthcare coverage. Now, the Biden administration allowed and even encouraged
the use of these one one one five waivers to

(27:56):
extend Medicaid to undocumented immigrants, something that Democrats are now
claiming never happened, and despite federal law actually prohibiting them
from receiving these benefits, Hunt wrote in a letter to
Hochel on Monday.

Speaker 5 (28:09):
Now.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Back in February, President Trump also signed an executive order
the Director's Administration to ensure and a maximum extent possible,
that quote no taxpayer fund of benefits go to unqualified aliens.
That order pointed to existing law, such as the Personal
Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of nineteen ninety six,

(28:34):
which generally blocks illegal immigrants from getting federal benefits from taxpayers.
The Texas Republican also cited concerns about New York's green
light law, which permits all state residents, regardless of immigration status,
to get driver's licenses. Now the Justice Department filed a

(28:54):
lawsuit against that law, arguing that a hamstring's federal enforcement
of immigration law. Hunt argued it can help illegal immigrants
get access to tax payer funded benefits using the driver's
license to gain that access, and to address these concerns,
Hunt now demanded that HOCHE will conduct a review of

(29:15):
its medicaid enrollment base on social Security numbers and release
those findings to the public, saying this New Yorkers deserve transparency, accountability,
and adherence to law in the administration of public health programs.
Policies to divert limited resources away from lawful recipients American

(29:37):
citizens not only violates federal standards, they also destroy public
trust and threaten the sustainability of programs designed to serve
our most vulnerable American citizens. Now. Hunt has also drawn
speculation over recent weeks that he may vie for Senator
John Cornyn's seat in the Senate in Texas in the

(29:58):
twenty twenty six midterms, and this could very well be
one of those points that he would campaign on. Now,
let me say one other thing about this. We deserve answers.
The American people, as taxpayers, deserve to know where their
money is going and if it is being diverted to
six hundred and seventy thousand illegal immigrants in the Empire state, Yes,

(30:18):
about four and a half percent of its population. One
other thing that I think is also a point that
needs to be made. You notice that Democrats did not
deny in any of the statements coming from the governor's
office that illegal immigrants are receiving benefits, and they word
it carefully to say, well, some may, but most aren't,
and most aren't receiving full benefits. Well, that also goes

(30:42):
for the same with the Americans in base that are
eligible for Medicaid benefits as well. It is supposed to
help the weakest, the least, the poorest, and those that
are the most in need. Yet many Americans do not
qualify for full benefits. So why are we giving those
benefits to illegal immigrants? That's the question every American should

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