May 9, 2026 • 20 mins
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Ohio Large-Scale Fraud:
The content claims billions of dollars are being improperly billed through Medicaid home healthcare services, often for minimal or unverifiable work (e.g., “companionship”). -
Loopholes in Oversight:
It highlights that services provided inside private homes are difficult to monitor, making fraud easy and detection unlikely. -
Business Abuse Structure:
Many small companies allegedly exist only to bill Medicaid. Examples include:- Multiple companies registered at the same address
- Businesses rapidly generating large revenue with little infrastructure
- Individuals with unrelated backgrounds entering healthcare solely for profit
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Systemic Weakness:
The system is described as a “black box,” where:- Payments lack transparency
- Verification mechanisms are weak
- A single doctor’s approval can trigger large payouts
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Recruitment & Incentives:
The document suggests people are encouraged to sign up family members for paid “caregiving,” turning ordinary family interactions into billable services. -
Political and Regulatory Criticism:
It claims:- Government officials and regulators have failed to act
- Media outlets have not sufficiently investigated the issue
- Fraud persists because perpetrators expect no consequences
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It is illegal.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
It is guess the war we've been talking about this, Aharon. Obviously,
to bomb the infrastructure of any country that is against
international law. This is essentially doing the same thing. It
is bombing the infrastructure of Cubo with economic sanctions that
essentially ensure that the infrastructure collapses.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
You're listening to the forty seven Morning Update with Ben ferguson.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Good Saturday morning. Nice to have you with us on
the forty seven Morning Update. And we've got one big
story for you, massive fraud, but this time not in
a liberal area of the country in Ohio, and it's
costing you millions and millions of dollars. Senator Cruz joins
me to break down exactly how bad the fraud could
be nationwide. And it's not just in liberal cities. Yes,
(00:47):
Democrats have learned exactly how to take advantage no matter
where they live, and we're going to expose it all.
I want you to pause what you're doing for just
one minute, and I want you to hear about Alejandra.
She lives in a remote community with very few resources
and little to no healthcare. So when Alejandra gets sick,
(01:08):
her parents have no real options, no doctors in their
community and no money for real medical care. By the
third day, her body was shutting down. She woke up
and just long enough to tell her mom, I can't
take the pain anymore. I can't keep going. Her parents
drove hours to find a doctor who tried everything, but
(01:31):
she needed a private hospital and that was impossible for
her family to afford. And that is when Compassion International
stepped in. Now through Compassion, Alejandra was treated and against
all odds, she survived. She lived because someone just like
you took action. Right now, Unfortunately, there are children just
(01:53):
like Alejandra who won't survive unless someone like you steps in.
Compassion International parkartners with local churches, providing children with the
support that they need, critical medical care, plus food, education
and the hope of the gospel, all in Jesus' name.
So help a child just like Alejandra. Today you can
(02:17):
visit Compassion dot com. That's Compassion dot com. It's the
forty seven Morning Update and it starts right now.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Story number one center.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Just since we started this show, and we have this
Somali fraud that we're going to talk about in Ohio.
But there's a new article that just came out. I'm
just gonna read the headline because it just shows how
fast the fraud is being exposed. Somali's reportedly filled an
Ohio strip mall with potential fraudulent childcare centers. This coming
from the AB six investigators there in Columbus, saying several
(02:50):
Somali owned daycare facilities, including a cluster located strip mall,
which by the way, don't exist, they've now been uncovered.
And then that is on top of a another local
station that just exposed a massive trucking company fraud. All
of these trucking companies like dozens and dozens, all at
the same exact address in these suites. So now we've
(03:13):
got new fraud on top of fraud on top of
the fraud we're going to talk about on this show today.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, it's a stunning pattern, and it's clear the fraudsters
believe they would never face any scrutiny, that no politician
would hold them to account, that no prosecutor would hold
them to account, that nobody in the media would ever
report as they were stealing millions and millions of dollars
from the taxpayers. And I got to say that tide
is starting to turn that there's a blockbuster story of
(03:39):
the Daily Wire by Luke Rosiak, who is the same
lawyer who broke the Louden County story in Virginia that
ended up electing Glenn Youngkin as the governor of Virginia.
So so he's demonstrated that he can do real, real
news work in a way that CNN, ABC, NBC they
don't do anymore. But this story. I want to read
(04:00):
a good chunk of this story because if you haven't
read it, you need to know what's in it. It's
entitled Daily Wire Investigation reveals one of the biggest government
waste scandals hiding in plain sight. I've been investigating federal
waste and fraud for twenty years. This is the biggest
scandal I've ever found Columbus, Ohio. Just before the Department
of Government Efficiency closed its doors, it made a quiet
(04:23):
move that may end up being its most lasting impact
on the federal deficit. DOGE published a massive trove of
data in February that, for the first time, let the
public see what companies are billing Medicaid for For decades,
the payouts have been shrouded in secrecy. One of the
largest government programs was a black box. I've spent the
(04:47):
past two months diving into the numbers. What I found
was the most blatant waste of federal dollars that I've
encountered in my two decades as an investigative reporter. I've
set my site in Ohio, which, like Minnesota, has been
granted waivers to expand Medicaid well beyond its original purpose.
(05:08):
Under the guise of Healthcare, Ohio pays people to go
to Medicaid beneficiaries homes to perform quote homemaking and quote
chores like cooking and cleaning. The people performing these quote
personal services tasks don't even have to be healthcare workers,
and in many cases are actually relatives of the Medicaid recipient.
(05:33):
According to a Daily Wired data analysis, Ohio spent a
billion dollars billion with a BEE on home healthcare in
twenty twenty four, the last year for which data is available.
Since the services are performed inside private residences, there's no
way to know whether the workers went at all or
(05:54):
what they're actually doing in exchange for taxpayer funds. An
infinite number of small black boxes inside a black box,
multiple signs said the service provided and build of the
government was sometimes just quote companionship and conversation. So understand,
(06:15):
you can talk to your relatives. You can hang out
with your relatives and talk to them, and the federal
government will pay you just for talking to Grandpa.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
I mean, you listen to that story and it doesn't
even make sense until you understand that that's exactly what
they're doing. They're like, hey, we're gonna pay you to
hang out, not take care, hang out with a relative.
They're also, how would they get all the patients for
the fraud to work? You put it on a billboard, right,
you put up billboards. You recruit family members to defraud
(06:46):
the government by hanging out and spending time with your
own mom or dad or aunt or uncle or brother
or sister, and we will pay you to do that.
And I mean, it's just if that's not the definition
of fraud, I don't know what is.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Well, it gets worse as people have realized the United
States government will pay them to hang out with their
own families.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
There it is.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Northeast Columbus has seen its economy replaced by businesses that
bill medicaid, and Columbus, a city with the second largest
Somali population in the country, did you know that Columbus, Ohio.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
No I did not, and that's shocking. But now it
explains why the fraud's so high.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Well, Columbus has become, on the surface, the most unhealthy
city on the planet.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Now to be clear what we mean by that, because
like using the past, you're on healthy city, you usually
hear that's like a say that's overweight where the people.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Aren't active here, they're just flooding.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Catch Yeah, like this is the unhealthy as in how
much money is it taking to take care of people
through medicare. That is what's making the most unhealthy city
in America. It's not that it's like overweight population, food
deserts and things like that. Yeah, this is how bad
the fraud is.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Well, here's what one person said. Quote, well, if the
government is going to pay you to do it, one
home health operator told me, people see it as lucrative,
so they just jump on it. The new welfare queens
aren't the recipients whose low incomes qualify them for poverty programs.
They're the companies getting rich off them. Now, listen to
(08:23):
these companies. Driving down Cleveland Avenue. In less than forty seconds,
you come across endless home health companies, Capital home Health,
Continental home Health, Dynamic Home Healthcare, Ohio Senior Home Healthcare.
Entire buildings throughout the city are filled entirely with what
(08:43):
appeared to be identical businesses. The enormous complex pictured below,
and there's a picture in the article, is six one six'
One Bush. Boulevard its lack of windows would be a
problem for most office, buildings but there is almost no
one in this. One what's inside is ninety four ninety
(09:06):
four different companies signed up to Bill, medicaid each with
a tiny, office often marked with a sheet of paper
proclaiming some generic company name ending in Home HEALTH. Llc
and sometimes this is particularly, funny another piece of paper
claiming the employees had just stepped out for a. Break mind,
(09:26):
you they've all stepped out for a break and then
never come. Back this building alone build taxpayers sixty six
million dollars in the span of a few. Years the record.
Show pick the owner of A columbus home healthcare company
at random and look them up on public. Records you're
likely to go down an endless rabbit. Hole years of
(09:50):
unpaid taxes and, debts sometimes criminal, records and an astonishing
number of LLC's created in other, industries as if the
millions they make For medicaid are a side. Gig we
went down several of those rabbit. Holes in the coming,
days you'll meet, Now i'm gonna give you several of these.
Examples every one of these is going to piss you.
Off these are real, people or at least real fake
(10:11):
people In. Ohio number one a politician who founded an
eleven million dollar home health care company that he appeared
to run part time without even mentioning it in his political,
biography who then funded his. Campaign he funded his campaign
(10:37):
with donations from other home healthcare. Owners so this is
a guy robbing a million dollars eleven million. Dollars he's
hiding it because obviously he's embarrassed about, it and he's
relying on other fraudsters to fund his political. Operation this
is the shameless, grift the cycle of thievery that we're
(10:58):
seeing over and over. Again another, One number, two a
woman who reinvented her JANITORIAL. Llc so she had a
janitorial company as a quote health. Provider then she Build.
Medicaid what do you think she Build? Medicaid the very
first month she went from being a janitorial company to healthcare.
Provider she build medicaid.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
A Good somali, mentor and you go from the toilet
cleaning you know job to then and, SORRY i got
the hiccups. Now but if you go from a toilet
cleaning job to then you go to home, healthcare like,
sure your first month and startup would BE i don't,
know five, grand eight, grand MAYBE i Know i'm, wrong.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Right nearly one hundred. Grand, yeah one hundred.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Grand first, month first, month like that is one heck
of a, startup right, there, Folks.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
All, right here's another. One number. Three by the, way
you've got the, hiccups we're gonna send a home healthcare. Provider, yeah,
yeah CAN i make a one hundred Grand i'll take you.
That that would be your, children and they're gonna go
punch you in the stomach till you stop hic.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
COPYING i like this. Plan as long as they get,
paid it's. FINE i want to kick back, here or.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
At least golf. Sponsorships there you. Go number three a
landlord who bought airplanes after renting space to hundreds of
home health care companies that build medicaid a quarter of
a billion dollars quarter of a, billion two hundred and fifty.
Million number four a man who went to prison for
(12:27):
medicaid fraud but told the government he was too broke
to pay restitution while his neighbors and associates provide over
a poverty program. Empire And number five an accountant who
has lost his license for stealing public funds then opened
a seven million dollar home health care company using the
(12:50):
address of a convicted money launderer's teenage. Son Now i'm gonna, Say,
ben if you're listening to, this if you're not pissed,
off you're buying.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
IT I, mean this story really brings us back to
even a bigger, point and that is this isab probably.
Nationwide like what we're, witnessing what we're, saying this is
going to end up being fraud at different, levels probably
in every state Of, america because you're still dealing with
fraud through the federal, government so you can set up shop,
(13:20):
anywhere because it's not like it's a lot of state oversight.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Here, well, listen this is. Brazen these are fraudsters who
believe no politician will ever call them to, account no
government employee will ever examine the, Facts no prosecutor will
look at, it and they're quite confident that the press
will never examine. It these are not. Geniuses let me
read a little more from the. Story these are not in,
(13:44):
fact here's the POINT i was just. Making these are
not business, geniuses nor even people with any training or
specialty in the health. Field they've often failed at a
variety of businesses before suddenly becoming millionaires in home. Healthcare
sometimes a, couple but he will have a full roster
of clients in his very first, month making one wonder
(14:05):
where the clients come. From the companies don't have websites
or appear to. Advertise they can't stand out from their
thousands of rivals based on price unless they pay kickbacks
because the government pays the same to. Everyone nearly every
owner of a healthcare company In columbus appears to be.
(14:27):
Foreign let me repeat, that because that's a stunning. Statement
nearly every owner of a home health care company In
columbus appears to be. Foreign they live in a parallel
society where every associate and public records also has a foreign,
name and all their business transactions are conducted with other.
(14:48):
Foreigners when we asked one what home health care companies.
Did one man threatened. Journalists who cares do you guys
pay my? Bills i'm gonna tell everybody you guys are.
Racists the government cannot meaningfully monitor all the people it
writes million dollar checks to In. Columbus they all share
(15:11):
combinations of just a few, names Like Ahmed mohammed And Mohammed.
Ahmed how is this not? Satire by the Way i'm,
reading actual news documents reviewed By The Daily wire show
individuals will spell their own name multiple different ways within
(15:32):
a single. Document let me repeat that. Again someone spells
the Name Bean, Ferguson, yeah, Bad fergie Fergisn, like, like how?
Many how do you misspell your name multiple times in a?
Document and?
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Backwards sometimes it Was Ben, Ferguson it Was, Ferguson, ben
like it Was Ted cruz and Then Cruise, ted.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
You, Know, Penealopy, Cruise Tom Cruise Cruise control like like
every very can come with and many of them lists
their birthdays As january, first because their birthdays are. Unknown
the business model is. SIMPLE a forty year Old somali
immigrant gets paid for spending time with and maybe cooking
(16:15):
for his own sixty five year old. Mother the middleman
is one of thousands of home health firms that have
THE npi number necessary to bill. Medicate the forty year
old becomes a quote employee of that, company but has
no clients other than his. Mother there is no way
(16:37):
to verify whether he actually provided the quote services unless
his own mother is willing to testify against. Him this
poverty program is different from things like food stamps because
it has no monetary cap and its extent is decided
not by politicians but by any doctor willing to sign
(16:57):
a form saying you could use some help around the.
House it only takes one doctor who will say yes
to turn out enough forms to bankrupt a.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
State to bankrupt a, state let's let's let's be clear
about what like they're. Saying this is why they're the
most unhealthy city In america because of this. Fraud this
is why all your tax hours are going there and.
All it takes a doctor with apparently no checks and.
Balances but it's like doctor. Shopping like we know doctors
that do. This they abuse their. Power they write. Scripts for,
(17:29):
example there's one arrest rested In houston this. Week it
was writing massive amounts of opioid. Scripts why because he's
getting massive paydays from. Patients you could have the same
same exact thing happening.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
There for, years efforts to rein in waste have nibbled
around the, edges shaving off a million here and a million.
There while skeptics and liberals argue that the cost cutting
exercise was pointless because the lion's share of federal spending
was locked up in quote non discretionary spending like, healthcare
(18:00):
the implication was that there was no waste in that
category and nothing that could be done about, it even
as the nation careened torns. Insolvency that premise couldn't be more.
Wrong this blatant waste happened within miles of The ohio State,
capitol Where Governor Mike, DeWine A, republican and his appointees
(18:23):
run the. State in an era of artificial, intelligence the
medicaid system has seemed disinterested in even the most obvious red.
Flags perhaps that's because it's largely run by, states but
with half or more of the bill being footed by
the federal. Taxpayers The trump administration is now turning its
(18:43):
sites to medicaid, fraud with a task force led by
The Federal Trade Commission Chairman Andrew ferguson And Vice PRESIDENT. J. D.
Vance they may want to start With vance's home. STATE
i get to, say, look this is, stunning and it
is a. Pattern it's not find To, minnesota it's not
confined To. Ohio this is a pattern of theft across the,
(19:07):
country and we need to have vigorous. EFFORTS i want
to command The trump. Administration The department Of justice is
going after this. FRAUD hhs is going after this. Fraud
we're beginning to see. Accountability AND i want to thank
The Daily wire for doing some. Reporting let me ask
where the hell IS, CNN, ABC, NBC cbs is doing
(19:27):
a little, Bit But Washington, Post New York times are? There,
actually like the.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Hard, orders the hardcore investigative journalists are not doing any
of this. Journalism this is like the conservative advocates out
there that are doing this. Job The Nick shirley's are
doing this. Job no one in the mainstream media is
breaking this.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Story, look look we covered previously on this podcast HOW
cnn when the story broke In, minnesota they decided to check.
It so they called these quote childcare agencies and they, Said,
hi this IS cnn, calling are you engaged in fraud
and they said uh, no and they, said oh, okay thank,
you hung. Up that's what they called. Reporting ye the
(20:08):
LAST i. Checked if you call criminals and asked them
if they're committing, crimes most of them are going to
tell you. No and by the, WAY cnn knows that
the reporters know, that the producer knows that the executive
producer knows that everyone up and down the line knows
that they know how to actually investigate a. Story it's
(20:30):
just that the media doesn't care about this. STORY i
commend The Daily. Wire we're going to keep covering this
AND i think this is just the tip of the
iceberg on what's.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
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Morning
It is illegal.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
It is guess the war we've been talking about this, Aharon. Obviously,
to bomb the infrastructure of any country that is against
international law. This is essentially doing the same thing. It
is bombing the infrastructure of Cubo with economic sanctions that
essentially ensure that the infrastructure collapses.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
You're listening to the forty seven Morning Update with Ben ferguson.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Good Saturday morning. Nice to have you with us on
the forty seven Morning Update. And we've got one big
story for you, massive fraud, but this time not in
a liberal area of the country in Ohio, and it's
costing you millions and millions of dollars. Senator Cruz joins
me to break down exactly how bad the fraud could
be nationwide. And it's not just in liberal cities. Yes,
(00:47):
Democrats have learned exactly how to take advantage no matter
where they live, and we're going to expose it all.
I want you to pause what you're doing for just
one minute, and I want you to hear about Alejandra.
She lives in a remote community with very few resources
and little to no healthcare. So when Alejandra gets sick,
(01:08):
her parents have no real options, no doctors in their
community and no money for real medical care. By the
third day, her body was shutting down. She woke up
and just long enough to tell her mom, I can't
take the pain anymore. I can't keep going. Her parents
drove hours to find a doctor who tried everything, but
(01:31):
she needed a private hospital and that was impossible for
her family to afford. And that is when Compassion International
stepped in. Now through Compassion, Alejandra was treated and against
all odds, she survived. She lived because someone just like
you took action. Right now, Unfortunately, there are children just
(01:53):
like Alejandra who won't survive unless someone like you steps in.
Compassion International parkartners with local churches, providing children with the
support that they need, critical medical care, plus food, education
and the hope of the gospel, all in Jesus' name.
So help a child just like Alejandra. Today you can
(02:17):
visit Compassion dot com. That's Compassion dot com. It's the
forty seven Morning Update and it starts right now.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Story number one center.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Just since we started this show, and we have this
Somali fraud that we're going to talk about in Ohio.
But there's a new article that just came out. I'm
just gonna read the headline because it just shows how
fast the fraud is being exposed. Somali's reportedly filled an
Ohio strip mall with potential fraudulent childcare centers. This coming
from the AB six investigators there in Columbus, saying several
(02:50):
Somali owned daycare facilities, including a cluster located strip mall,
which by the way, don't exist, they've now been uncovered.
And then that is on top of a another local
station that just exposed a massive trucking company fraud. All
of these trucking companies like dozens and dozens, all at
the same exact address in these suites. So now we've
(03:13):
got new fraud on top of fraud on top of
the fraud we're going to talk about on this show today.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, it's a stunning pattern, and it's clear the fraudsters
believe they would never face any scrutiny, that no politician
would hold them to account, that no prosecutor would hold
them to account, that nobody in the media would ever
report as they were stealing millions and millions of dollars
from the taxpayers. And I got to say that tide
is starting to turn that there's a blockbuster story of
(03:39):
the Daily Wire by Luke Rosiak, who is the same
lawyer who broke the Louden County story in Virginia that
ended up electing Glenn Youngkin as the governor of Virginia.
So so he's demonstrated that he can do real, real
news work in a way that CNN, ABC, NBC they
don't do anymore. But this story. I want to read
(04:00):
a good chunk of this story because if you haven't
read it, you need to know what's in it. It's
entitled Daily Wire Investigation reveals one of the biggest government
waste scandals hiding in plain sight. I've been investigating federal
waste and fraud for twenty years. This is the biggest
scandal I've ever found Columbus, Ohio. Just before the Department
of Government Efficiency closed its doors, it made a quiet
(04:23):
move that may end up being its most lasting impact
on the federal deficit. DOGE published a massive trove of
data in February that, for the first time, let the
public see what companies are billing Medicaid for For decades,
the payouts have been shrouded in secrecy. One of the
largest government programs was a black box. I've spent the
(04:47):
past two months diving into the numbers. What I found
was the most blatant waste of federal dollars that I've
encountered in my two decades as an investigative reporter. I've
set my site in Ohio, which, like Minnesota, has been
granted waivers to expand Medicaid well beyond its original purpose.
(05:08):
Under the guise of Healthcare, Ohio pays people to go
to Medicaid beneficiaries homes to perform quote homemaking and quote
chores like cooking and cleaning. The people performing these quote
personal services tasks don't even have to be healthcare workers,
and in many cases are actually relatives of the Medicaid recipient.
(05:33):
According to a Daily Wired data analysis, Ohio spent a
billion dollars billion with a BEE on home healthcare in
twenty twenty four, the last year for which data is available.
Since the services are performed inside private residences, there's no
way to know whether the workers went at all or
(05:54):
what they're actually doing in exchange for taxpayer funds. An
infinite number of small black boxes inside a black box,
multiple signs said the service provided and build of the
government was sometimes just quote companionship and conversation. So understand,
(06:15):
you can talk to your relatives. You can hang out
with your relatives and talk to them, and the federal
government will pay you just for talking to Grandpa.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
I mean, you listen to that story and it doesn't
even make sense until you understand that that's exactly what
they're doing. They're like, hey, we're gonna pay you to
hang out, not take care, hang out with a relative.
They're also, how would they get all the patients for
the fraud to work? You put it on a billboard, right,
you put up billboards. You recruit family members to defraud
(06:46):
the government by hanging out and spending time with your
own mom or dad or aunt or uncle or brother
or sister, and we will pay you to do that.
And I mean, it's just if that's not the definition
of fraud, I don't know what is.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Well, it gets worse as people have realized the United
States government will pay them to hang out with their
own families.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
There it is.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Northeast Columbus has seen its economy replaced by businesses that
bill medicaid, and Columbus, a city with the second largest
Somali population in the country, did you know that Columbus, Ohio.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
No I did not, and that's shocking. But now it
explains why the fraud's so high.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Well, Columbus has become, on the surface, the most unhealthy
city on the planet.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Now to be clear what we mean by that, because
like using the past, you're on healthy city, you usually
hear that's like a say that's overweight where the people.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Aren't active here, they're just flooding.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Catch Yeah, like this is the unhealthy as in how
much money is it taking to take care of people
through medicare. That is what's making the most unhealthy city
in America. It's not that it's like overweight population, food
deserts and things like that. Yeah, this is how bad
the fraud is.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Well, here's what one person said. Quote, well, if the
government is going to pay you to do it, one
home health operator told me, people see it as lucrative,
so they just jump on it. The new welfare queens
aren't the recipients whose low incomes qualify them for poverty programs.
They're the companies getting rich off them. Now, listen to
(08:23):
these companies. Driving down Cleveland Avenue. In less than forty seconds,
you come across endless home health companies, Capital home Health,
Continental home Health, Dynamic Home Healthcare, Ohio Senior Home Healthcare.
Entire buildings throughout the city are filled entirely with what
(08:43):
appeared to be identical businesses. The enormous complex pictured below,
and there's a picture in the article, is six one six'
One Bush. Boulevard its lack of windows would be a
problem for most office, buildings but there is almost no
one in this. One what's inside is ninety four ninety
(09:06):
four different companies signed up to Bill, medicaid each with
a tiny, office often marked with a sheet of paper
proclaiming some generic company name ending in Home HEALTH. Llc
and sometimes this is particularly, funny another piece of paper
claiming the employees had just stepped out for a. Break mind,
(09:26):
you they've all stepped out for a break and then
never come. Back this building alone build taxpayers sixty six
million dollars in the span of a few. Years the record.
Show pick the owner of A columbus home healthcare company
at random and look them up on public. Records you're
likely to go down an endless rabbit. Hole years of
(09:50):
unpaid taxes and, debts sometimes criminal, records and an astonishing
number of LLC's created in other, industries as if the
millions they make For medicaid are a side. Gig we
went down several of those rabbit. Holes in the coming,
days you'll meet, Now i'm gonna give you several of these.
Examples every one of these is going to piss you.
Off these are real, people or at least real fake
(10:11):
people In. Ohio number one a politician who founded an
eleven million dollar home health care company that he appeared
to run part time without even mentioning it in his political,
biography who then funded his. Campaign he funded his campaign
(10:37):
with donations from other home healthcare. Owners so this is
a guy robbing a million dollars eleven million. Dollars he's
hiding it because obviously he's embarrassed about, it and he's
relying on other fraudsters to fund his political. Operation this
is the shameless, grift the cycle of thievery that we're
(10:58):
seeing over and over. Again another, One number, two a
woman who reinvented her JANITORIAL. Llc so she had a
janitorial company as a quote health. Provider then she Build.
Medicaid what do you think she Build? Medicaid the very
first month she went from being a janitorial company to healthcare.
Provider she build medicaid.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
A Good somali, mentor and you go from the toilet
cleaning you know job to then and, SORRY i got
the hiccups. Now but if you go from a toilet
cleaning job to then you go to home, healthcare like,
sure your first month and startup would BE i don't,
know five, grand eight, grand MAYBE i Know i'm, wrong.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Right nearly one hundred. Grand, yeah one hundred.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Grand first, month first, month like that is one heck
of a, startup right, there, Folks.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
All, right here's another. One number. Three by the, way
you've got the, hiccups we're gonna send a home healthcare. Provider, yeah,
yeah CAN i make a one hundred Grand i'll take you.
That that would be your, children and they're gonna go
punch you in the stomach till you stop hic.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
COPYING i like this. Plan as long as they get,
paid it's. FINE i want to kick back, here or.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
At least golf. Sponsorships there you. Go number three a
landlord who bought airplanes after renting space to hundreds of
home health care companies that build medicaid a quarter of
a billion dollars quarter of a, billion two hundred and fifty.
Million number four a man who went to prison for
(12:27):
medicaid fraud but told the government he was too broke
to pay restitution while his neighbors and associates provide over
a poverty program. Empire And number five an accountant who
has lost his license for stealing public funds then opened
a seven million dollar home health care company using the
(12:50):
address of a convicted money launderer's teenage. Son Now i'm gonna, Say,
ben if you're listening to, this if you're not pissed,
off you're buying.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
IT I, mean this story really brings us back to
even a bigger, point and that is this isab probably.
Nationwide like what we're, witnessing what we're, saying this is
going to end up being fraud at different, levels probably
in every state Of, america because you're still dealing with
fraud through the federal, government so you can set up shop,
(13:20):
anywhere because it's not like it's a lot of state oversight.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Here, well, listen this is. Brazen these are fraudsters who
believe no politician will ever call them to, account no
government employee will ever examine the, Facts no prosecutor will
look at, it and they're quite confident that the press
will never examine. It these are not. Geniuses let me
read a little more from the. Story these are not in,
(13:44):
fact here's the POINT i was just. Making these are
not business, geniuses nor even people with any training or
specialty in the health. Field they've often failed at a
variety of businesses before suddenly becoming millionaires in home. Healthcare
sometimes a, couple but he will have a full roster
of clients in his very first, month making one wonder
(14:05):
where the clients come. From the companies don't have websites
or appear to. Advertise they can't stand out from their
thousands of rivals based on price unless they pay kickbacks
because the government pays the same to. Everyone nearly every
owner of a healthcare company In columbus appears to be.
(14:27):
Foreign let me repeat, that because that's a stunning. Statement
nearly every owner of a home health care company In
columbus appears to be. Foreign they live in a parallel
society where every associate and public records also has a foreign,
name and all their business transactions are conducted with other.
(14:48):
Foreigners when we asked one what home health care companies.
Did one man threatened. Journalists who cares do you guys
pay my? Bills i'm gonna tell everybody you guys are.
Racists the government cannot meaningfully monitor all the people it
writes million dollar checks to In. Columbus they all share
(15:11):
combinations of just a few, names Like Ahmed mohammed And Mohammed.
Ahmed how is this not? Satire by the Way i'm,
reading actual news documents reviewed By The Daily wire show
individuals will spell their own name multiple different ways within
(15:32):
a single. Document let me repeat that. Again someone spells
the Name Bean, Ferguson, yeah, Bad fergie Fergisn, like, like how?
Many how do you misspell your name multiple times in a?
Document and?
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Backwards sometimes it Was Ben, Ferguson it Was, Ferguson, ben
like it Was Ted cruz and Then Cruise, ted.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
You, Know, Penealopy, Cruise Tom Cruise Cruise control like like
every very can come with and many of them lists
their birthdays As january, first because their birthdays are. Unknown
the business model is. SIMPLE a forty year Old somali
immigrant gets paid for spending time with and maybe cooking
(16:15):
for his own sixty five year old. Mother the middleman
is one of thousands of home health firms that have
THE npi number necessary to bill. Medicate the forty year
old becomes a quote employee of that, company but has
no clients other than his. Mother there is no way
(16:37):
to verify whether he actually provided the quote services unless
his own mother is willing to testify against. Him this
poverty program is different from things like food stamps because
it has no monetary cap and its extent is decided
not by politicians but by any doctor willing to sign
(16:57):
a form saying you could use some help around the.
House it only takes one doctor who will say yes
to turn out enough forms to bankrupt a.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
State to bankrupt a, state let's let's let's be clear
about what like they're. Saying this is why they're the
most unhealthy city In america because of this. Fraud this
is why all your tax hours are going there and.
All it takes a doctor with apparently no checks and.
Balances but it's like doctor. Shopping like we know doctors
that do. This they abuse their. Power they write. Scripts for,
(17:29):
example there's one arrest rested In houston this. Week it
was writing massive amounts of opioid. Scripts why because he's
getting massive paydays from. Patients you could have the same
same exact thing happening.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
There for, years efforts to rein in waste have nibbled
around the, edges shaving off a million here and a million.
There while skeptics and liberals argue that the cost cutting
exercise was pointless because the lion's share of federal spending
was locked up in quote non discretionary spending like, healthcare
(18:00):
the implication was that there was no waste in that
category and nothing that could be done about, it even
as the nation careened torns. Insolvency that premise couldn't be more.
Wrong this blatant waste happened within miles of The ohio State,
capitol Where Governor Mike, DeWine A, republican and his appointees
(18:23):
run the. State in an era of artificial, intelligence the
medicaid system has seemed disinterested in even the most obvious red.
Flags perhaps that's because it's largely run by, states but
with half or more of the bill being footed by
the federal. Taxpayers The trump administration is now turning its
(18:43):
sites to medicaid, fraud with a task force led by
The Federal Trade Commission Chairman Andrew ferguson And Vice PRESIDENT. J. D.
Vance they may want to start With vance's home. STATE
i get to, say, look this is, stunning and it
is a. Pattern it's not find To, minnesota it's not
confined To. Ohio this is a pattern of theft across the,
(19:07):
country and we need to have vigorous. EFFORTS i want
to command The trump. Administration The department Of justice is
going after this. FRAUD hhs is going after this. Fraud
we're beginning to see. Accountability AND i want to thank
The Daily wire for doing some. Reporting let me ask
where the hell IS, CNN, ABC, NBC cbs is doing
(19:27):
a little, Bit But Washington, Post New York times are? There,
actually like the.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Hard, orders the hardcore investigative journalists are not doing any
of this. Journalism this is like the conservative advocates out
there that are doing this. Job The Nick shirley's are
doing this. Job no one in the mainstream media is
breaking this.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Story, look look we covered previously on this podcast HOW
cnn when the story broke In, minnesota they decided to check.
It so they called these quote childcare agencies and they, Said,
hi this IS cnn, calling are you engaged in fraud
and they said uh, no and they, said oh, okay thank,
you hung. Up that's what they called. Reporting ye the
(20:08):
LAST i. Checked if you call criminals and asked them
if they're committing, crimes most of them are going to
tell you. No and by the, WAY cnn knows that
the reporters know, that the producer knows that the executive
producer knows that everyone up and down the line knows
that they know how to actually investigate a. Story it's
(20:30):
just that the media doesn't care about this. STORY i
commend The Daily. Wire we're going to keep covering this
AND i think this is just the tip of the
iceberg on what's.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
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