July 8, 2026 • 29 mins
1. Allegations Against Graham Platner
- Sexual assault allegations.
- Claims of abusive behavior.
- Accusations of racism, misogyny, antisemitism, and extremist political beliefs.
- References to allegedly offensive past statements and conduct.
2. Criticism of Democratic Party Leaders
- Chuck Schumer
- Bernie Sanders
- Elizabeth Warren
- Tim Walz
- Ruben Gallego
- Sheldon Whitehouse
3. Comparison to Other Political Cases
Platner situation is compared to:
- Joe Biden's presidency and concerns about age and competence.
- Eric Swalwell (as described by the hosts).
- Roy Moore, a Republican candidate whom Cruz says he ultimately refused to support due to allegations against him.
4. Political Opportunism
Democratic leaders only abandoned Platner when they believed he would lose the election. They contend that electoral concerns—not ethics or principle—motivated the shift in support.
5. Broader Critique of the Democratic Party
Platner controversy is a case study about Democratic politics. The situation to other political figures and controversies is obvious, arguing that party leaders prioritize retaining power over enforcing moral standards consistently
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
It is verdic with Center, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with
you as well, Senator. We've got a lot to talk about,
including Democrats having no moral compass, in fact, their moral
compass is only polling data. And now they've turned on
Graham Platner because they're afraid he's going to lose, just
like they did with Eric Swalwell in California. Even though
the warning signs were always there.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Well, you're exactly right, Graham Platner is imploding. This was
the least surprising thing to have ever happened in the
history of the planet Earth. It was predictable, and indeed
not just predictable. It was predicted on this podcast a
month ago. We predicted what is happening was exactly what
would happen. Graham Platner will drop out of the Democrat race.
(00:44):
As you and I are recording it Tuesday night. He
has not yet dropped out, but he will drop out
before July thirteenth. July thirteenth is the deadline for the
Democrats to replace him on the ballot. We predicted that,
as I said a month ago on this pod, is
dropping out because there are now credible allegations that he
(01:04):
sexually assaulted a woman, and this woman apparently can be
believed because she's a left wing Democrat. But that's not
actually why he will drop out. He will drop out
because the Democrats have decided they must get him off
the ballot because, as you noted, he is losing. We're
gonna break down the Graham Platner mess, the steaming pile
(01:25):
of manure that is his campaign, and the mess of
a life that this guy has led. But we're gonna
break down how this Graham Platner fiasco demonstrates the utter
hypocrisy of Democrats. That there is not a Democrat in
the United States Congress, with the lone exception of John Fetterman,
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there is not another Democrat who has demonstrated even the
tiniest shred of integrity when it comes to Graham platter
We're gonna go come and we're bringing the receipts. You're right,
it's just like Eric Sway Well and before that, it's
just like Joe Biden. All today's Democrats care about is
winning and anything else they're willing to overlook. But don't
(02:09):
just believe what Ben and I are saying. We're gonna
come with the receipts right now.
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really good at understanding politics and how scumbags and the
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Democratic Party are always on an expiration date.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
This one, as you mentioned, is the thirteenth.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
They've got to get him off the ballot, meaning he's
got to drop out by then or they're stuck with
him on the ballot.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I want to know your prediction.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Do you think the same people that create a Grand
platinirm that are now trying to destroy him are gonna
be able to get him off the ballot by the
thirteenth or do you think he says, you know what,
I'll drop out the fourteenth just to ticket to all
you guys that are coming after me.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
No, he's a Marxist. He'll drop out. He'll drop out
this week. It'll be by the thirteenth. They'll replace him.
And understand, Look for Democrats in Congress, the fact that
the guy had a Nazi tattoo on his chest, that
was not disqualifying. They were happy to support him. And
not just any Nazi tattoo, a totin comp the symbol
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of the SS at the death squads in World War Two.
That's what he had tattooed on his chest. Democrats just
fine with that. The fact that he self described himself
as a communist, they had no problem with that at all.
The fact that he described that he would have masturbation
fantasies in porta potties, which is just weird. I mean,
(05:28):
I mean, I mean, it's just that that's a very
odd dynamic. That didn't scare any of them away. The
fact that he had a prior girlfriend accuse him of
being emotionally verbally abusive, that didn't scare them away. The
fact that he used repeated racist insults attacked African Americans.
(05:50):
Democrats were just fine with that. The fact that he
was a vicious misogynist, no problem with that at all.
The fact that he attacked a decorated combat ve veteran, Yeah,
and he said he wished that the veteran had died. Well,
the Democrats were just hunky dory with that.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
And don't forget the anti semitism as well, let's throw
that in there.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Well, you know that that kind of runs with anyone
that puts a Nazi tattoo on their on their chest,
like the ven diagram. To use a Kamala Harris term
of Nazis and anti Semites, that would be a one
hundred percent overlap, and in that all Nazis are anti Semites.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
And by the way, the fact that he described that
he had a fantasy of raping men who broke into
his house, although he said quote not in a gayway,
just just raping men in the heterosexual way, none of
that was was problematic. And I want to go through
the receipts. All right, Chuck Schumer on June second, I
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endorse Graham Platter. This is after almost all of this
stuff had broken. How about Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders quote,
I personally think he is an excellent candidate. I'm going
to support him, and I look forward to him becoming
the next senator in the state of Maine. Reuben Gego
goes and campaigns alongside him. Tim Waltz, I'll be in
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Portland tomorrow with Graham Plattner to kick off his campaign
to retire Susan Collins. Let's go win this thing that
was in April. Elizabeth Warren all right, this is one
of my favorite Elizabeth Warren Boyce. She was all in
understand progressive, powerful advocate for equality. What nonsense. Okay, So
here's what Elizabeth Warren says. Quote He's a combat veteran,
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an oyster farmer, and has inspired people with his populist
agenda for a government on the side of working families,
not the billionaires and giant corporations. She also said, quote,
I endorse Graham Plattner because I know he's a fighter
on behalf of working families, and because he doesn't take
any corporate pack money. And we need more people in
Washington who are less about go along to get along
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and more about fighting to make the kind of changes
that families need. And I want you to listen to
what Elizabeth Warren said about Platner on April eighteenth. Here,
give a listen.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
I am here because Washington needs fighters, and gram Platner
is the fighter we need. You. Bet, I said to myself,
that's my kind of man, because that is a man
who not only has the values, but a man who
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believes in accountability. And we need a little accountability coming
out of Washington right now. We need gram Platner to
come in and get rid of the.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Corruption in Washington.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Time for new lawson, get rid of that corruption center
in Washington. I mean, it's just that simple, right You
just say a man's a good man, forget all the
red flags, and you just make sure that no one
ever knows even happen.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
That's my kind of man. I want you. In fact,
I want to just play play that again. Listen again
to Elizabeth Warren on Graham Plattner.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
That's my kind of man.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I believe her, by the way I believe her as
much as I believe any Democrat right now they love
this guy until they just decided, oh wait, he may
not be able to win.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
And by the way, every one of those now has
now called on Platner to drop out, So Chuck Schumer. Tonight,
he and Kirsten Gillibrand put out a statement quote, the
allegations reported today are incredibly disturbing. Violence, abuse, and sexual
assault are absolutely unacceptable. The DSCC will not invest in
Maine Senate if Platner remains on the ballot. Bernie Sanders,
(09:46):
I have spoken with Graham Plattner about the best path
forward for Maine in light of these very serious allegations.
I have recommended that he step aside. How about Reuben
Diego quote The allegations against Graham Plattner are troubling and
deeply serious. I am rescinding my endorsement. How about Tim
Waltz quote, the allegations of sexual assault against Graham Plattner
(10:07):
are deeply disturbing. He should drop out and make way
for a candidate that can defeat Susan Collins in November.
How about Elizabeth Warren quote, Now, more than ever, we
need leaders in Washington to reflect our values. There could
be no tolerance for sexual assault. Working families are counting
on Democrats to win the Senate election in Maine, the
unrigular economy and hold Donald Trump accountable. With so much
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at stake, best path forward is for Graham Plattner to
step aside as the Democratic nominee and address these serious
allegations outside the Senate race now among other hypocrites. And
I won't necessarily go through all their quotes. Rocanna happy
to stand with Graham Plattner with all these allegations. Chris
van Holland, Well, when he was asked about the Nazi stuff,
(10:50):
the misogynist stuff, the racist stuff, Chris van Holland said, quote,
people should have second chances. Sheldon white House. What did
Sheldon white House say? Hears a quote from Politico. White
House has been among Platner's most constant supporters among lawmakers
in the US Senate, calling the controversial candidate quote wonderfully appealing.
(11:15):
Sheldon white House Nazi, communist, misogynist, racist, oyster farmer, wonderfully appealing.
What else did he say? White House said, quote, He's
off to a really strong start and has a wonderfully
appealing local background and story. Just last month, white House
dismissed a New York Times report quoting women who accused
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Platner a quote intimidating and disturbing behavior. White House said,
quote seems like a lot of nothing. I mean, the
only one who had anything to say that seemed unsettling
was a woman who works for right wing political operations. Apparently,
in Democrat worlds, you can sexually harass, you can assault
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Republican women, and they don't count as women's Apparently that's
just fine.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
By the way, what happened in the Democrats mantra believe
all women. I just wanted when did that get thrown out?
When it comes to Squallwell, and it was always a lie.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
It was always a lie. These are the same people
that defended Bill Clinton over and over and over again,
that launched Remember Hillary Clinton launched the smear campaigns on
every woman that came forward with allegations against Bill Clinton
was never true. Zo Ron Mondami, Mondami's several of his
top aides, including his strategist Morris Catz, his press secretary Joecovello,
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played leading roles in Platner's campaign. Uh Hassan Piker, All right,
here's what Piker said on June tenth, not very long ago. Quote,
Do I want Graham Plattner to win this race? Effo lutely?
Although he did not abbreviate efan, I do for a
million different reasons. He's great on message. What kind of
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lunatic thinks this guy is is great on message? Now?
Where are we today? Every one I've gone through has said, okay,
time to get out, Time to get out, time to
get out. Except let me tell you one knucklehead. Who
do you think is right now? The lone knucklehead who
said he doesn't want Graham platter to drop out.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
I would have guessed if I didn't know better, I
would have said Bernie Sanders. But he's even said it now. Well,
we got a serious reservation. YadA, YadA, YadA. So give
me outside that I have no idea, give me, give
me the name.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Stephen King, really Maine. He lives in Maine, left wing radical,
filled with hate. Here's what he put out Tuesday night. Quote,
Graham Platner may drop out. I hope he doesn't. But meanwhile,
the abuser in chief just keeps on keeping on. So
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Stephen King is the one guy that says, give me
a Nazi communist, racist, misogynist, alleged rapist. And I'm good
with him. Why Because Susan Collins and Stephen King's world
is way too conservative for him.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
All Right, I think it's time. You and I haven't
had a verdict bed in a long time. And we
both like Mexican food, so I think we should bet
Mexican food.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I'm gonna throw it out there.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I think Graham Plattner is going to be so mad
that this has happened to him that he's not gonna
drop out before the deadline.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
All right, you are so buying the enchilados that Margarita is.
I actually feel bad. This is this is like taking
money from a baby.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
This is so him though, And all these people got
you to do this, and all of them got you in,
and then they all helped you raise money, and they
all said all these things, and then right before the end,
they're like, we're gonna trash you like Swallwell, I just
think this is maybe I'm wrong. I think a guy
is crazy that crazy enough to have a Nazi tattoo,
is crazy enough to say watch this this on the fourteenth,
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the fifteenth, I'll drop out, but not before then.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Look, you don't understand communists.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Right, they give me, give me all right, tell me
the other side of the.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Bat that they take or one of one of the
other rest will buy the other Mexican. And so when
you buy me Mexican, I'm gonna by the way, I'm
not gonna order just an ordinary margarita. I'm gonna say,
give me the toppest shelf you got.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Shelf, top shelf. Yeah, all the way. I believe you're
and the and the largest case though, keep going.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Right, and not just like the ground beef enchiladas. I
want shredded beef. I want what do you mean the case?
So I want real melted cheese. I want good stuff
on that.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
But I I.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Cannot wait for this bet anyway, keep going so tell
me why you think there's no way he'll be he'll
do that.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Let's let's go back to Swallwell. And we covered this
when when when Swallowell and the scandal broke. Look Swallwell
was one of the leading candidates to be governor in California,
and all the Democrats were happily behind them, and and
from all the reports that came out of his being
a repeated sexual assault abuser, harasser, And I mean it
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really was pretty ship aimless conduct that just went on
and on and on. You know, it was so commonplace
that the Democrats.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Already knew about it. It was talking about.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Okay, not everybody knew about it. I didn't know about it,
but I don't know Swallall. Like I, I don't run
in the circle of House Democrats, so I had no
clue that the guy was a predator. But the people
pallling around with him obviously did. The Democrat staffers obviously did.
You don't behave like Swalwell did without that becoming common
knowledge in the circause he was not hiding it. He
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was not at all circumspect. He was open and brazen.
Why because he understood that that the leftist today they
will defend anything, anything, any if it keeps them in power.
What was Swalwell's cardinal offense. It was when he was
splitting the vote and suddenly it looked like the Republicans
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had a chance of becoming governor. And I mean they,
the Democrats ruthlessly took him out with no hesitation at all.
Let's go back to your Biden. To be clear, for
every Democrat in Congress knew that Joe Biden was well
into dementia that he was not remotely competent to be
president of the United States his first term, much less
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a second term. They knew that he could not be
trusted to have his finger on the button. They knew
that none of our enemies feared him because they knew
that he was a man deep into sinility. And you
know what, they all circled the wagon, and in fact,
you know, they kind of sounded like like you remember
the old movie The Manchurian Candidate. Yeah, well, in The
(17:38):
Manchurian Candidate, all these folks who had brain been brainwashed
all said the same thing about the candidate that was
put forward. They all said, Raymond Shaw is the kindest, bravest, warmest,
most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.
They all repeated that word for word. Yeah, that's almost
exactly what every Democrat said about Joe Biden. Joe Biden
is quick, He's on the ball. Oh my goodness, it's
(18:00):
the most incredible encyclopedic memory. He's doing like like nine
digit multiplication in his head. I mean it's like, you know,
fire shoots out of his fingertips. I mean it there
wasn't even a tiny bit of hesitation. Ye, a tiny
bit of gosh, this is bad for our country. They
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didn't care. Yeah, And when did they pull the plug
on Biden after the debate when they're like, oh no,
we can't hide this anymore. Look, they would have been
glad to weekend at Bernie's Joe Biden literally have him
die in office, put him there and just raise the hand,
like Weekend at Bernie's when they had the dead men
they pretended to alive. The Democrats were fine with that.
They did not care if the President of the United
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States was any longer competent. They did not care if
Eric Swalwell was a sexual predator, and they didn't care
if Graham Plattner was a sexual predator. What changed was
suddenly they thought there's a real risk of losing. And
listen to what zoron Mondami said today about Platner.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
Hey, how's it going to sound good?
Speaker 6 (19:04):
How are you? I wanted to ask, given that you
have a sort of a sendent role in the Democratic Party,
could you talk about the main Senate race. Do you
think that Graham Platner should drop out of the race,
and do you have any intention of endorsing any candidates
in competitive races outside of New York else I e.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
It or anyone else.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
I believe that it's time for him to drop out
of the race. And when it comes to my own endorsements,
I've made eight endorsements at the state and federal level.
They've all been right here in New York City. I'm
incredibly excited at the fact that they won their races.
And that's where my focus is for now.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
I mean, there it is in his own words, right like,
that's it, that's it, you know, just just just go
along with what everybody else says.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
At the very end, when you got to get rid
of somebody.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
There, you go, Commedy is gonna come. And look, Mandami's saying,
look at all the communists I'm electing in New York.
There'll be time enough to get communists everywhere else. But
to be clear, he didn't care that Platner was a racist, misogynist,
Nazi communist. That didn't matter. All that mattered is uh, oh,
he's gonna lose. So here's what the AP is reporting tonight.
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Succession fight is already underway as calls mount for Platner
to drop out of Maine Senate race. Democratic nominee Graham
Plattner hasn't resigned from the main U S Senate race
following an allegation of sexual assault, but the succession battle
to take his place was already underway Tuesday. The allegation
reported Monday prompted a chorus of calls for Plattner to
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depart the high stakes race against Republican Senator Susan Collins,
which could decide party control of the Senate. Plattner's longtime backer,
Senator Bernie Sanders, quote recommended that he step aside. Then
Tuesday evening, The Washington Post reported that an ex girlfriend
of Platner had accused him of removing condoms during sex
without her consent. Plattner, who has denied all the allegations,
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has been mum on whether he'll step aside, and the
main Democratic party charged with creating a process to pick
his replacement hasn't publicly announced their plans. On Tuesday night,
executive director Devon Murphy Anderson released a video saying the
party is developing in quote open, inclusive, transparent, and fair process,
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but won't disclose details until Platner withdraws. Plattner's team has
repeatedly tried to quote put their thumb on the scale.
She said, quote we have repeatedly reiterated a grand Platner's
team that they will not have no role in determining
our next Democratic nominee for the US Senate, nor in
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determining what this process looks like. An official for the
Platner campaign responded that it quote has reached out to
the party to try and understand what this process would
look like and quote, at no point has the campaign
tried to put its finger on the scale. The official
added that the thousands of main residents who voted for
and volunteered for Platner and they should play a role
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in the decision. So understand, once you're no longer useful
to the communists, you will be discarded.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah, quickly, by the way.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Quickly, with no hesitation, and and and and let me look,
folks listening to this, you could be forgiven for being
somewhat cynical for saying, oh, come on, both parties, do
this and listen. It is true there are candidates for
both parties that are less than ideal, that have real,
real problems. Real false, that's that's true, because you know
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candidates are human beings, and human beings are are flawed
and fallen creatures. But I will say I'd like to
draw a contrast between this race and Roy Moore in Alabama.
So Roy Moore was the Republican nominee for the Senate
in Alabama. I did not support Roy Moore in the primary.
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Once he was the nominee, I endorsed him. I offered
my support because I wanted to win the seat. I
wanted the Alabama Senate seat to be held by a Republican.
After he was the nominee, there were serious, credible allegations
of sexual improprieties of Roy Moore with young teenage girls.
They were multiple, they were serious, they were credible, And
(23:15):
I actually called Roy Moore and I said, look, I
want to hear your response to this. I want you
to lay out and convince me this is not true.
And I will say that conversation was one of the
least satisfying conversations I've ever had with the candidate. He
did not have any response that I found remotely credible.
And so what did I do in that race? I
(23:35):
explicitly rescinded my endorsement because I said, look, I'm not
going to support someone who is sexually assaulting teenage girls.
That is not And you know what happened. Republicans lost
that seat. They elected Doug Jones, a Democrat, to the Senate,
and by the way, a bunch of Republicans after I
did that, followed by withdrawing their support. On the Democrat side,
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you had John Fetterman who was alone in showing real courage.
And I want you to listen to what John Fetterman
said this week about Graham Plattner and about the real
fault and culpability for what happened.
Speaker 7 (24:14):
Yeah, I mean, I refuse to overlook that, but honestly,
I would really call Bertie Sanders to apologize for pushing
this kind of predator more than anyone he helped him
elect and now apologize to the victims, especially the woman
that she claimed that he raped her. So, I don't
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know why you want to keep pushing these kinds of people.
Maybe he should consider set a few out and stop
pushing these kind of communists and people and now people
you know like p Hustle.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Now he has been.
Speaker 7 (24:51):
Incredibly accused of rape and that's fairly recent too, that
was only less than five years ago.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Well, he said that allegations are untrue, but that he's
basically reviewing his options.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
He's obviously gonna drop out.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I love that he's obviously gonna drop out. Correct, I
think you'll drop out. I just I think the day
I hope that I'm right here for so many different reasons,
but I just think it'd be amazing to watch the
guy go, Okay, you guys want to burn me down, Fine,
you're all going down with me.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Ben I'm looking forward to some damn fine Mexican and
I will say this. Look, the chances that Bernie Sanders apologizes,
as John Fetterman called on him to do, I think
are zero point zero percent. Bernie's not gonna apologize. Chuck
Schumer is not going to apologize. Gerry Waltz is not
gonna apologize. Elizabeth Warren is definitely not gonna apologize. They
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are perfectly fine. Sheldon white House is not gonna apologize.
None of them care. It is all about power. It
is all about their ability to be in power, and
it doesn't matter that they are. Look, you want to
know what the Democrats message from this cycle is. Elizabeth
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Warren put it best.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
That's my kind of man.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
It's It's it's pretty accurate, isn't it. It's I mean,
it's just that's like my favorite quote from her, besides
being Pocahontas.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Well.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
And I will say it is a sad expose of
the Democrat Party because they're gonna take take take him out.
Platter will be gone, which he should have been gone
a long long time ago. He should have been off
the ballot. Someone like this should not be uh in
the United States Senate. Uh. But but they're doing this.
The only reason that that they turned on him is
(26:46):
because his poll numbers dropped and they believed, uh, oh,
this guy's gonna lose. Let's dump him overboard and find
someone else. And by the way, that someone else if
they find another nazi, communist, oyster farmer, racist, misogynist, sexual predator.
If his poll numbers are decent, they'll stick with him.
If his poll numbers drop, they'll dump him as well.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Final question on this, what type of candidate do you
think the Democrats will go with when they replace him?
Will they go with another radical because that's there was
momentum they feel like for him before all of this,
or will they find kind of a vanilla Democrat statewide
office holder, maybe someone in the past. It's easy to
(27:30):
deal with that. There's not any of these types of
discoveries that will come out. What do you think the
Democrats will do?
Speaker 3 (27:36):
So I don't know. I'll confess I don't know the
main Democrat party, so I don't know the decision makers there.
The most obvious choice would be Janet Mills, the Democrat
governor who ran against Platner and lost, although Mills has
said publicly that she's not running for Senate. Although that's
the kind of statement I am not currently running for
Senate is not the same thing as I would turn
(27:58):
down the nomination. If I were to guess, I would
cynically say that's who they pick because they think she
would have the best chance of winning. But who knows.
They might grab some crazy radical off a commune up
in the main Woods, and the Democrats don't care. It
doesn't have to be anyone with any qualifications. It doesn't
have to be anyone. Look, if you're willing to go
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with a Nazi, communist oyster farmer, you're willing to go
with anyone. Their only test is gonna be who do
we think can win and if they can get can
win plus crazy for them. I think that's a plus.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Yeah, there it is.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
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Speaker 2 (00:00):
It is verdic with Center, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with
you as well, Senator. We've got a lot to talk about,
including Democrats having no moral compass, in fact, their moral
compass is only polling data. And now they've turned on
Graham Platner because they're afraid he's going to lose, just
like they did with Eric Swalwell in California. Even though
the warning signs were always there.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Well, you're exactly right, Graham Platner is imploding. This was
the least surprising thing to have ever happened in the
history of the planet Earth. It was predictable, and indeed
not just predictable. It was predicted on this podcast a
month ago. We predicted what is happening was exactly what
would happen. Graham Platner will drop out of the Democrat race.
(00:44):
As you and I are recording it Tuesday night. He
has not yet dropped out, but he will drop out
before July thirteenth. July thirteenth is the deadline for the
Democrats to replace him on the ballot. We predicted that,
as I said a month ago on this pod, is
dropping out because there are now credible allegations that he
(01:04):
sexually assaulted a woman, and this woman apparently can be
believed because she's a left wing Democrat. But that's not
actually why he will drop out. He will drop out
because the Democrats have decided they must get him off
the ballot because, as you noted, he is losing. We're
gonna break down the Graham Platner mess, the steaming pile
(01:25):
of manure that is his campaign, and the mess of
a life that this guy has led. But we're gonna
break down how this Graham Platner fiasco demonstrates the utter
hypocrisy of Democrats. That there is not a Democrat in
the United States Congress, with the lone exception of John Fetterman,
(01:47):
there is not another Democrat who has demonstrated even the
tiniest shred of integrity when it comes to Graham platter
We're gonna go come and we're bringing the receipts. You're right,
it's just like Eric Sway Well and before that, it's
just like Joe Biden. All today's Democrats care about is
winning and anything else they're willing to overlook. But don't
(02:09):
just believe what Ben and I are saying. We're gonna
come with the receipts right now.
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Democratic Party are always on an expiration date.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
This one, as you mentioned, is the thirteenth.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
They've got to get him off the ballot, meaning he's
got to drop out by then or they're stuck with
him on the ballot.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I want to know your prediction.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Do you think the same people that create a Grand
platinirm that are now trying to destroy him are gonna
be able to get him off the ballot by the
thirteenth or do you think he says, you know what,
I'll drop out the fourteenth just to ticket to all
you guys that are coming after me.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
No, he's a Marxist. He'll drop out. He'll drop out
this week. It'll be by the thirteenth. They'll replace him.
And understand, Look for Democrats in Congress, the fact that
the guy had a Nazi tattoo on his chest, that
was not disqualifying. They were happy to support him. And
not just any Nazi tattoo, a totin comp the symbol
(05:07):
of the SS at the death squads in World War Two.
That's what he had tattooed on his chest. Democrats just
fine with that. The fact that he self described himself
as a communist, they had no problem with that at all.
The fact that he described that he would have masturbation
fantasies in porta potties, which is just weird. I mean,
(05:28):
I mean, I mean, it's just that that's a very
odd dynamic. That didn't scare any of them away. The
fact that he had a prior girlfriend accuse him of
being emotionally verbally abusive, that didn't scare them away. The
fact that he used repeated racist insults attacked African Americans.
(05:50):
Democrats were just fine with that. The fact that he
was a vicious misogynist, no problem with that at all.
The fact that he attacked a decorated combat ve veteran, Yeah,
and he said he wished that the veteran had died. Well,
the Democrats were just hunky dory with that.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
And don't forget the anti semitism as well, let's throw
that in there.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Well, you know that that kind of runs with anyone
that puts a Nazi tattoo on their on their chest,
like the ven diagram. To use a Kamala Harris term
of Nazis and anti Semites, that would be a one
hundred percent overlap, and in that all Nazis are anti Semites.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
And by the way, the fact that he described that
he had a fantasy of raping men who broke into
his house, although he said quote not in a gayway,
just just raping men in the heterosexual way, none of
that was was problematic. And I want to go through
the receipts. All right, Chuck Schumer on June second, I
(06:51):
endorse Graham Platter. This is after almost all of this
stuff had broken. How about Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders quote,
I personally think he is an excellent candidate. I'm going
to support him, and I look forward to him becoming
the next senator in the state of Maine. Reuben Gego
goes and campaigns alongside him. Tim Waltz, I'll be in
(07:12):
Portland tomorrow with Graham Plattner to kick off his campaign
to retire Susan Collins. Let's go win this thing that
was in April. Elizabeth Warren all right, this is one
of my favorite Elizabeth Warren Boyce. She was all in
understand progressive, powerful advocate for equality. What nonsense. Okay, So
here's what Elizabeth Warren says. Quote He's a combat veteran,
(07:37):
an oyster farmer, and has inspired people with his populist
agenda for a government on the side of working families,
not the billionaires and giant corporations. She also said, quote,
I endorse Graham Plattner because I know he's a fighter
on behalf of working families, and because he doesn't take
any corporate pack money. And we need more people in
Washington who are less about go along to get along
(07:58):
and more about fighting to make the kind of changes
that families need. And I want you to listen to
what Elizabeth Warren said about Platner on April eighteenth. Here,
give a listen.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
I am here because Washington needs fighters, and gram Platner
is the fighter we need. You. Bet, I said to myself,
that's my kind of man, because that is a man
who not only has the values, but a man who
(08:31):
believes in accountability. And we need a little accountability coming
out of Washington right now. We need gram Platner to
come in and get rid of the.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Corruption in Washington.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Time for new lawson, get rid of that corruption center
in Washington. I mean, it's just that simple, right You
just say a man's a good man, forget all the
red flags, and you just make sure that no one
ever knows even happen.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
That's my kind of man. I want you. In fact,
I want to just play play that again. Listen again
to Elizabeth Warren on Graham Plattner.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
That's my kind of man.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I believe her, by the way I believe her as
much as I believe any Democrat right now they love
this guy until they just decided, oh wait, he may
not be able to win.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
And by the way, every one of those now has
now called on Platner to drop out, So Chuck Schumer. Tonight,
he and Kirsten Gillibrand put out a statement quote, the
allegations reported today are incredibly disturbing. Violence, abuse, and sexual
assault are absolutely unacceptable. The DSCC will not invest in
Maine Senate if Platner remains on the ballot. Bernie Sanders,
(09:46):
I have spoken with Graham Plattner about the best path
forward for Maine in light of these very serious allegations.
I have recommended that he step aside. How about Reuben
Diego quote The allegations against Graham Plattner are troubling and
deeply serious. I am rescinding my endorsement. How about Tim
Waltz quote, the allegations of sexual assault against Graham Plattner
(10:07):
are deeply disturbing. He should drop out and make way
for a candidate that can defeat Susan Collins in November.
How about Elizabeth Warren quote, Now, more than ever, we
need leaders in Washington to reflect our values. There could
be no tolerance for sexual assault. Working families are counting
on Democrats to win the Senate election in Maine, the
unrigular economy and hold Donald Trump accountable. With so much
(10:29):
at stake, best path forward is for Graham Plattner to
step aside as the Democratic nominee and address these serious
allegations outside the Senate race now among other hypocrites. And
I won't necessarily go through all their quotes. Rocanna happy
to stand with Graham Plattner with all these allegations. Chris
van Holland, Well, when he was asked about the Nazi stuff,
(10:50):
the misogynist stuff, the racist stuff, Chris van Holland said, quote,
people should have second chances. Sheldon white House. What did
Sheldon white House say? Hears a quote from Politico. White
House has been among Platner's most constant supporters among lawmakers
in the US Senate, calling the controversial candidate quote wonderfully appealing.
(11:15):
Sheldon white House Nazi, communist, misogynist, racist, oyster farmer, wonderfully appealing.
What else did he say? White House said, quote, He's
off to a really strong start and has a wonderfully
appealing local background and story. Just last month, white House
dismissed a New York Times report quoting women who accused
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Platner a quote intimidating and disturbing behavior. White House said,
quote seems like a lot of nothing. I mean, the
only one who had anything to say that seemed unsettling
was a woman who works for right wing political operations. Apparently,
in Democrat worlds, you can sexually harass, you can assault
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Republican women, and they don't count as women's Apparently that's
just fine.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
By the way, what happened in the Democrats mantra believe
all women. I just wanted when did that get thrown out?
When it comes to Squallwell, and it was always a lie.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
It was always a lie. These are the same people
that defended Bill Clinton over and over and over again,
that launched Remember Hillary Clinton launched the smear campaigns on
every woman that came forward with allegations against Bill Clinton
was never true. Zo Ron Mondami, Mondami's several of his
top aides, including his strategist Morris Catz, his press secretary Joecovello,
(12:32):
played leading roles in Platner's campaign. Uh Hassan Piker, All right,
here's what Piker said on June tenth, not very long ago. Quote,
Do I want Graham Plattner to win this race? Effo lutely?
Although he did not abbreviate efan, I do for a
million different reasons. He's great on message. What kind of
(12:56):
lunatic thinks this guy is is great on message? Now?
Where are we today? Every one I've gone through has said, okay,
time to get out, Time to get out, time to
get out. Except let me tell you one knucklehead. Who
do you think is right now? The lone knucklehead who
said he doesn't want Graham platter to drop out.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
I would have guessed if I didn't know better, I
would have said Bernie Sanders. But he's even said it now. Well,
we got a serious reservation. YadA, YadA, YadA. So give
me outside that I have no idea, give me, give
me the name.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Stephen King, really Maine. He lives in Maine, left wing radical,
filled with hate. Here's what he put out Tuesday night. Quote,
Graham Platner may drop out. I hope he doesn't. But meanwhile,
the abuser in chief just keeps on keeping on. So
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Stephen King is the one guy that says, give me
a Nazi communist, racist, misogynist, alleged rapist. And I'm good
with him. Why Because Susan Collins and Stephen King's world
is way too conservative for him.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
All Right, I think it's time. You and I haven't
had a verdict bed in a long time. And we
both like Mexican food, so I think we should bet
Mexican food.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I'm gonna throw it out there.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I think Graham Plattner is going to be so mad
that this has happened to him that he's not gonna
drop out before the deadline.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
All right, you are so buying the enchilados that Margarita is.
I actually feel bad. This is this is like taking
money from a baby.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
This is so him though, And all these people got
you to do this, and all of them got you in,
and then they all helped you raise money, and they
all said all these things, and then right before the end,
they're like, we're gonna trash you like Swallwell, I just
think this is maybe I'm wrong. I think a guy
is crazy that crazy enough to have a Nazi tattoo,
is crazy enough to say watch this this on the fourteenth,
(14:56):
the fifteenth, I'll drop out, but not before then.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Look, you don't understand communists.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Right, they give me, give me all right, tell me
the other side of the.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Bat that they take or one of one of the
other rest will buy the other Mexican. And so when
you buy me Mexican, I'm gonna by the way, I'm
not gonna order just an ordinary margarita. I'm gonna say,
give me the toppest shelf you got.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Shelf, top shelf. Yeah, all the way. I believe you're
and the and the largest case though, keep going.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Right, and not just like the ground beef enchiladas. I
want shredded beef. I want what do you mean the case?
So I want real melted cheese. I want good stuff
on that.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
But I I.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Cannot wait for this bet anyway, keep going so tell
me why you think there's no way he'll be he'll
do that.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Let's let's go back to Swallwell. And we covered this
when when when Swallowell and the scandal broke. Look Swallwell
was one of the leading candidates to be governor in California,
and all the Democrats were happily behind them, and and
from all the reports that came out of his being
a repeated sexual assault abuser, harasser, And I mean it
(15:59):
really was pretty ship aimless conduct that just went on
and on and on. You know, it was so commonplace
that the Democrats.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Already knew about it. It was talking about.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Okay, not everybody knew about it. I didn't know about it,
but I don't know Swallall. Like I, I don't run
in the circle of House Democrats, so I had no
clue that the guy was a predator. But the people
pallling around with him obviously did. The Democrat staffers obviously did.
You don't behave like Swalwell did without that becoming common
knowledge in the circause he was not hiding it. He
(16:30):
was not at all circumspect. He was open and brazen.
Why because he understood that that the leftist today they
will defend anything, anything, any if it keeps them in power.
What was Swalwell's cardinal offense. It was when he was
splitting the vote and suddenly it looked like the Republicans
(16:52):
had a chance of becoming governor. And I mean they,
the Democrats ruthlessly took him out with no hesitation at all.
Let's go back to your Biden. To be clear, for
every Democrat in Congress knew that Joe Biden was well
into dementia that he was not remotely competent to be
president of the United States his first term, much less
(17:14):
a second term. They knew that he could not be
trusted to have his finger on the button. They knew
that none of our enemies feared him because they knew
that he was a man deep into sinility. And you
know what, they all circled the wagon, and in fact,
you know, they kind of sounded like like you remember
the old movie The Manchurian Candidate. Yeah, well, in The
(17:38):
Manchurian Candidate, all these folks who had brain been brainwashed
all said the same thing about the candidate that was
put forward. They all said, Raymond Shaw is the kindest, bravest, warmest,
most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.
They all repeated that word for word. Yeah, that's almost
exactly what every Democrat said about Joe Biden. Joe Biden
is quick, He's on the ball. Oh my goodness, it's
(18:00):
the most incredible encyclopedic memory. He's doing like like nine
digit multiplication in his head. I mean it's like, you know,
fire shoots out of his fingertips. I mean it there
wasn't even a tiny bit of hesitation. Ye, a tiny
bit of gosh, this is bad for our country. They
(18:21):
didn't care. Yeah, And when did they pull the plug
on Biden after the debate when they're like, oh no,
we can't hide this anymore. Look, they would have been
glad to weekend at Bernie's Joe Biden literally have him
die in office, put him there and just raise the hand,
like Weekend at Bernie's when they had the dead men
they pretended to alive. The Democrats were fine with that.
They did not care if the President of the United
(18:43):
States was any longer competent. They did not care if
Eric Swalwell was a sexual predator, and they didn't care
if Graham Plattner was a sexual predator. What changed was
suddenly they thought there's a real risk of losing. And
listen to what zoron Mondami said today about Platner.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
Hey, how's it going to sound good?
Speaker 6 (19:04):
How are you? I wanted to ask, given that you
have a sort of a sendent role in the Democratic Party,
could you talk about the main Senate race. Do you
think that Graham Platner should drop out of the race,
and do you have any intention of endorsing any candidates
in competitive races outside of New York else I e.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
It or anyone else.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
I believe that it's time for him to drop out
of the race. And when it comes to my own endorsements,
I've made eight endorsements at the state and federal level.
They've all been right here in New York City. I'm
incredibly excited at the fact that they won their races.
And that's where my focus is for now.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
I mean, there it is in his own words, right like,
that's it, that's it, you know, just just just go
along with what everybody else says.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
At the very end, when you got to get rid
of somebody.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
There, you go, Commedy is gonna come. And look, Mandami's saying,
look at all the communists I'm electing in New York.
There'll be time enough to get communists everywhere else. But
to be clear, he didn't care that Platner was a racist, misogynist,
Nazi communist. That didn't matter. All that mattered is uh, oh,
he's gonna lose. So here's what the AP is reporting tonight.
(20:10):
Succession fight is already underway as calls mount for Platner
to drop out of Maine Senate race. Democratic nominee Graham
Plattner hasn't resigned from the main U S Senate race
following an allegation of sexual assault, but the succession battle
to take his place was already underway Tuesday. The allegation
reported Monday prompted a chorus of calls for Plattner to
(20:30):
depart the high stakes race against Republican Senator Susan Collins,
which could decide party control of the Senate. Plattner's longtime backer,
Senator Bernie Sanders, quote recommended that he step aside. Then
Tuesday evening, The Washington Post reported that an ex girlfriend
of Platner had accused him of removing condoms during sex
without her consent. Plattner, who has denied all the allegations,
(20:54):
has been mum on whether he'll step aside, and the
main Democratic party charged with creating a process to pick
his replacement hasn't publicly announced their plans. On Tuesday night,
executive director Devon Murphy Anderson released a video saying the
party is developing in quote open, inclusive, transparent, and fair process,
(21:14):
but won't disclose details until Platner withdraws. Plattner's team has
repeatedly tried to quote put their thumb on the scale.
She said, quote we have repeatedly reiterated a grand Platner's
team that they will not have no role in determining
our next Democratic nominee for the US Senate, nor in
(21:35):
determining what this process looks like. An official for the
Platner campaign responded that it quote has reached out to
the party to try and understand what this process would
look like and quote, at no point has the campaign
tried to put its finger on the scale. The official
added that the thousands of main residents who voted for
and volunteered for Platner and they should play a role
(21:57):
in the decision. So understand, once you're no longer useful
to the communists, you will be discarded.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah, quickly, by the way.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Quickly, with no hesitation, and and and and let me look,
folks listening to this, you could be forgiven for being
somewhat cynical for saying, oh, come on, both parties, do
this and listen. It is true there are candidates for
both parties that are less than ideal, that have real,
real problems. Real false, that's that's true, because you know
(22:31):
candidates are human beings, and human beings are are flawed
and fallen creatures. But I will say I'd like to
draw a contrast between this race and Roy Moore in Alabama.
So Roy Moore was the Republican nominee for the Senate
in Alabama. I did not support Roy Moore in the primary.
(22:52):
Once he was the nominee, I endorsed him. I offered
my support because I wanted to win the seat. I
wanted the Alabama Senate seat to be held by a Republican.
After he was the nominee, there were serious, credible allegations
of sexual improprieties of Roy Moore with young teenage girls.
They were multiple, they were serious, they were credible, And
(23:15):
I actually called Roy Moore and I said, look, I
want to hear your response to this. I want you
to lay out and convince me this is not true.
And I will say that conversation was one of the
least satisfying conversations I've ever had with the candidate. He
did not have any response that I found remotely credible.
And so what did I do in that race? I
(23:35):
explicitly rescinded my endorsement because I said, look, I'm not
going to support someone who is sexually assaulting teenage girls.
That is not And you know what happened. Republicans lost
that seat. They elected Doug Jones, a Democrat, to the Senate,
and by the way, a bunch of Republicans after I
did that, followed by withdrawing their support. On the Democrat side,
(23:59):
you had John Fetterman who was alone in showing real courage.
And I want you to listen to what John Fetterman
said this week about Graham Plattner and about the real
fault and culpability for what happened.
Speaker 7 (24:14):
Yeah, I mean, I refuse to overlook that, but honestly,
I would really call Bertie Sanders to apologize for pushing
this kind of predator more than anyone he helped him
elect and now apologize to the victims, especially the woman
that she claimed that he raped her. So, I don't
(24:36):
know why you want to keep pushing these kinds of people.
Maybe he should consider set a few out and stop
pushing these kind of communists and people and now people
you know like p Hustle.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Now he has been.
Speaker 7 (24:51):
Incredibly accused of rape and that's fairly recent too, that
was only less than five years ago.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Well, he said that allegations are untrue, but that he's
basically reviewing his options.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
He's obviously gonna drop out.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I love that he's obviously gonna drop out. Correct, I
think you'll drop out. I just I think the day
I hope that I'm right here for so many different reasons,
but I just think it'd be amazing to watch the
guy go, Okay, you guys want to burn me down, Fine,
you're all going down with me.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Ben I'm looking forward to some damn fine Mexican and
I will say this. Look, the chances that Bernie Sanders apologizes,
as John Fetterman called on him to do, I think
are zero point zero percent. Bernie's not gonna apologize. Chuck
Schumer is not going to apologize. Gerry Waltz is not
gonna apologize. Elizabeth Warren is definitely not gonna apologize. They
(25:49):
are perfectly fine. Sheldon white House is not gonna apologize.
None of them care. It is all about power. It
is all about their ability to be in power, and
it doesn't matter that they are. Look, you want to
know what the Democrats message from this cycle is. Elizabeth
(26:09):
Warren put it best.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
That's my kind of man.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
It's It's it's pretty accurate, isn't it. It's I mean,
it's just that's like my favorite quote from her, besides
being Pocahontas.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Well.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
And I will say it is a sad expose of
the Democrat Party because they're gonna take take take him out.
Platter will be gone, which he should have been gone
a long long time ago. He should have been off
the ballot. Someone like this should not be uh in
the United States Senate. Uh. But but they're doing this.
The only reason that that they turned on him is
(26:46):
because his poll numbers dropped and they believed, uh, oh,
this guy's gonna lose. Let's dump him overboard and find
someone else. And by the way, that someone else if
they find another nazi, communist, oyster farmer, racist, misogynist, sexual predator.
If his poll numbers are decent, they'll stick with him.
If his poll numbers drop, they'll dump him as well.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Final question on this, what type of candidate do you
think the Democrats will go with when they replace him?
Will they go with another radical because that's there was
momentum they feel like for him before all of this,
or will they find kind of a vanilla Democrat statewide
office holder, maybe someone in the past. It's easy to
(27:30):
deal with that. There's not any of these types of
discoveries that will come out. What do you think the
Democrats will do?
Speaker 3 (27:36):
So I don't know. I'll confess I don't know the
main Democrat party, so I don't know the decision makers there.
The most obvious choice would be Janet Mills, the Democrat
governor who ran against Platner and lost, although Mills has
said publicly that she's not running for Senate. Although that's
the kind of statement I am not currently running for
Senate is not the same thing as I would turn
(27:58):
down the nomination. If I were to guess, I would
cynically say that's who they pick because they think she
would have the best chance of winning. But who knows.
They might grab some crazy radical off a commune up
in the main Woods, and the Democrats don't care. It
doesn't have to be anyone with any qualifications. It doesn't
have to be anyone. Look, if you're willing to go
(28:20):
with a Nazi, communist oyster farmer, you're willing to go
with anyone. Their only test is gonna be who do
we think can win and if they can get can
win plus crazy for them. I think that's a plus.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Yeah, there it is.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
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