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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I want to go back to twenty sixteen. The Democrats
said then about Donald Trump that he was going to get.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Us into WORL war. Iie.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
The reality is, in my lifetime he was the only
president that actually didn't get us.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Into a war.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
He was a president that said we must have like
peace through strength, something that Ronald Reagan also understood. And
the President has been very clear that if he was elected,
he was going to immediately get involved with Vladimir Putin
and Zolensky and end this war. He called it a
senseless war that we have been funding, a war that
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would not have continued to the point where we are
right now if it wasn't for the US financial involvement
and the military aid that we've been giving to Zolensky
and Ukraine. Well, I want to go back to what
President elect Trump said when he was getting ready to
come into the White House. He said he had a
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strong interest in meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin and
discussed the ending of this ongoing war, saying this, look,
I know that Putin wants to meet, and the arrangements
are being made for this meeting. That was reported by
The Hill newspaper, The Kremlin, by the way, responded positively
with a spokesperson acknowledging quote a mutual desire quote unquote
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to set up a meeting. Those specific details had not
been confirmed that coming from Sky News. Well, in his
recent speech at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Trump
emphasized his intentions three to one. Well, in his recent
speech at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Donald Trump
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doubled down emphasizing his intentions to involve China as well
in the peace process, stating that China has quote a
great deal of power over the situation. He also warned
Vladimir Putin to end the war promptly, or as he
said yesterday, you will severe economic consequences, including high taxes, tariffs,
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and sanctions on Russian goods. Well, that seems to change
everything in the calculations of Ladimir Putin over the last
twenty four hours. Moments ago on Fox this was the
reporting based on what I just told you from yesterday
and Vladimir Putin's response that.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
President Trump wants to meet immediately with Vladimir Putin and
that President Zelenski has told President Trump that he is
ready to make.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
A deal to end the war.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
So obviously a very big development on that front, and
we'll play it out for you as soon as we
get it. A number of other items crossing the wires
and making news that we're going to bring you when
we get that playback in just a moment to stick
around for that.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
So that's how they initially broke the news.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Then Donald Trump and I go back to what he
had to say a few days ago. He said this
on the nine as he was asked a question about
this meeting and what he expects. And this is again
laying that groundwork for diplomacy and power and strength bringing peace.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
President Putin wants to meet. He's said that even publicly,
and we have to get that war over with. That's
a bloody mess. Soldiers are being killed by the millions.
I looked at some very graphic pictures yesterday, the soldiers
that are being killed.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
You know, it's a flat field.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
The only thing that stops the bullet is a body.
These are It's a very very flat land, and the
soldiers are fighting and they are dying by the hundreds
of thousands.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
You listen to how we got here so quickly.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
How is it that we have a president that has
come in and this quickly is now saying we're going
to meet. We are now being told that Vladimir Putin
is willing to meet. Zelensky is saying he's willing to meet.
And they understand that this whole game that they've been playing,
and all the money that has been coming in to
Zelensky through foreign aid is ending specifically from the United
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States of America because of Donald Trump. And so the
idea in this headline that President Trump wants to meet
immediately with Putin and Zelensky and they're ready to make
a deal to end this war tells you how much
of America's foreign policy was feeding this war. Because Zolensky
understands something here. He understands that he can't keep doing
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what he's doing if he's not getting hundreds of billions
of dollars from the United States of America. Vladimir Putin
also understands that Donald Trump's threat that we can either
do this the easy way or the hard way through
sanctions and US coming after you economically right is going
to have major consequences on him.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Now.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Vladimir Putin said on his state TV channels that he
is ready to to discuss peace in Ukraine with President Trump.
Isn't it weird that we were told that Trump would
start World War three?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
He said that back in sixteen seventeen, eighteen nineteen.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
They've been saying that recently, and all of a sudden,
Donald Trump now plans to meet immediately with a Lenskimputiny
to negotiate the end of the war. This is the
difference between these two styles of political rhetoric and policies
of the US government, Trump is saying. And we now
have some more audio that's come in, and I was
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doing this live, so I'm going to hear this for
the first time.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
This is President Trump and Davos. Take a listen.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
We'd like to see de nuclearization. In fact, with President
Putin prior to an election result, which was frankly ridiculous,
we were talking about the nuclearization of our two countries
and China would have come along. China has a much
smaller right now nuclear armament than us. Who feel the
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US but they're going to be catching it at some
point over the next four or five years. And I
will tell you that President Putin really liked the idea
of cutting way back on nuclear and I think the
rest of the world. We would have gotten them to follow,
and China would have come along too. China also liked it.
Tremendous amounts of money of being spent on nuclear and
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the destructive capability is something that we don't even want
to talk about today because you don't want to hear
it's too depressing. So we want to see if we
can denuclearize. And I think that's very possible. And I
can tell you that President Putin wanted to do it.
He and I wanted to do it. We had a
good conversation with China. They would have been involved, and
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that would have been an unbelievable thing for the planet.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
By the way, does that sound like a guy that's
going to take us into World War three? No, of course,
on it doesn't sound like that at all.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
But what Donald Trump is saying is that not only
are we going to end this war, but President Putin
and I in China are going to begin the denuclearization
of our countries. He says, that is again great for
the world. So let's go back and listen again to
that news It just broke from Fox. The President Trump
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as he was signing executive orders after everything that you
just heard him say, there is now reporting that they
are going to have an immediate like immediately, I want
to meet.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
This is what world leaders do.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
That President Trump wants to meet immediately with Vladimir Putin,
and that President Zelenski has told President Trump that he
is ready to make a deal to end the war.
So obviously a very big development on that front. And
we'll play it out for you as soon as we
get it. A number of other items, Uh, let.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Me just stop it there, like this is what leaders
sound like when they lead, right, like this is it?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Trump says that we are we want to meet with
the Russian president soon, and he said millions of lives
are being wasted, millions of lives. And then it's like
after that, got tractions like screw it, like not soon,
Let's just do it immediately.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Very important.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
I really would like to be able to meet with
President Putin soon and get that war. And that's not
from the standpoint of economy or anything else. That's from
the standpoint of millions of lives are being wasted. Beautiful
young people are being shot in the battlefield. You know,
the bullet very flat land, as I said, and the
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bullet goes No, there's no hiding and a bullet. The
only thing is to stop the bullet is a human body.
And you have to see I've seen pictures of what's
taken place. It's a carnage and we really have to
stop that war. That war is horrible.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
And I'm not talking to economy.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
I'm not talking economics, I'm not talking about natural resource.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I'm just talking about there's so.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Many young people being killed in this war, and that's
not including the people that have been killed as the
cities are being knocked down, building by building, So we
really should get that stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Likewise, in the Middle East.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I mean, I love the way that he is saying this,
stop doing this. And the only thing that change is
Donald Trump turned off the military funding Spicott and as
soon as the money stopped flowing, now they're ready to negotiate.
As soon as he threatened putin we in this war
now or else. You can do it the easy way
or the hard way, and it's going to hurt your country.
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And Zelenski's in trouble as well, and the Moneys stopping
the flow is going to end with me.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Now they're going, yeah, let's meet in this thing.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
How much blood does the Biden administration have on their
hands in Ukraine. That's the question the media should be
asking right now because clearly they were the ones funding
the damn war. As I'm also having this conversation with
you about Putin right now, I want you to know
that we're getting unconfirmed reports that Vladimir Putin was rushed to.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
The Kremlin in Moscow.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Now.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
The reports are coming from Russian telegram channels that are
posting videos of the motorcade and him being rushed to
the Kremlin. Why would this be happening, because it's very
clear I think Donald Trump's not screwing around Donald Trump,
and I want to go back and read the statement
that he put out on True Social and this is
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again goes back to leadership quote.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I'm not looking to hurt Russia.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I love the Russian people and always had a very
good relationship with President Putin.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
And this despite the.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Radical lefts Russia Russia Russia hoax, we must never forget
that Russia helped us win the Second World War, losing
almost sixty million lives in the process. All of that
being said, I'm going to do Russia, whose economy is
failing and President Putin a very big favor.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Settle now and stop this ridiculous war.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
It's only going to get worse if we don't make
a deal soon. I have no other choice but to
put high levels of taxes, tariffs, and sanctions on anything
being sold by Russia to the United States and various
other participating countries. Let's get this war which never should
have started if I were president, which never would have
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started if I were president, I should say over with.
We can do it the easy way or the hard way,
and the easy way is always better.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
It's time to make a deal. No more lives should
be lost.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
You know, for a guy that they said was going
to start World War three, that's one hell of a
way does not start World War three. A reporter also
asking the president another question about this, and here is
what the President said.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Moments ago, you pull for a ceasefire.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
In Ukraine, the labor group doesn't come to the table
to negotiate with you. Will you put additional sanctions on Russia?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
It sounds likely.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Do you think that the war should be frozen currently alone?
The war should have never started if you had a
competent president, which you did, and the war wouldn't have happened.
The war in Ukraine would have never happened I president.
But that couldn't happen because the election was rigged.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
So let's just recap this twenty four to forty eight
hours of massive movement.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Trump becomes president. He shuts down the funding.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
He says, you ain't getting it from US, Ukraine and
Russia if you don't stop this damn war. I'm going
to make sure that you suffer and your economy suffers
massive consequences that we both know you can't afford. So
the moment that Trump was horn in, Russia changed their policy.
The President Putin declared on state TV that he was
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ready for a long term peace with Ukraine and says
Russia's open for dialogue with President Trump. This goes back
to what Donald Trump said if he was elected.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I'm going to have peace through strength.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I'm going to have the same policy, and I'm going
to use these sanctions in a hardcore way. And the
threat clearly seems to have worked, because I think Vadimir
Putin understand he's not blinking. It's not a threat if
you're going to do it, it's a reality, and he's
reading the room and he understands that Donald Trump is
going to do what he says he's going to do
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to do and Zelenski understands he didn't have the money
to do what he's doing right now without American dollars
paying for it, subsidizing this death and destruction. Donald Trump
also said, I have a very good relationship with Putin's Zlensky.
I hope we can get more relations with us. Donald
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Trump said, then, well, it takes two to tango.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
How do we know this was said, Well, the video
has been released.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
The president making clear is Elynski like, hey, dude, you're
not my friend.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Okay, you're not my guy.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I'm not going to sit here and treat you like
America has been treating you with just with open arms,
unlimited funds.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
So we have a very good relationship, and I also
have a very good relationship, as you know, with President Putin.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
And I think if we win, I think we're going
to get it resolved very quickly.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Word.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
I really think to get.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Normal.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Yeah, but you know, it takes two.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
To tench takes two to tango.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
President Trump's like, screw you man, Like you're the guy
out there hoarding all this money coming in from America.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
The amount of corruption. And this is what it really
boils down to.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
And I think part of the reason why Donald Trump
there was not real friendly with with with Zelenski is
he knows what he's dealing with.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
He's dealing with a thug. He's dealing with a con artist.
He's dealing with a.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Fake, you know, military general looking guy whears his fatigues
on the front, you know, but has people doing hair
and makeup for Vanny Fair when there's a quote war
going on. This is a guy and the oligarchs in
Ukraine that are getting rich off American dollars flowing into
that country to quote stand up to Vladimir Putin. And
so now the gig is up. I'm sure he's sitting
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on billions. I'm sure his oligarks, his family members have
funneled billions into their pockets. They will never want or
need for the rest of their lives and their kids' lives.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
And they're grandkids lies.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
They are oligarchs now because of American dollars that they
have stolen.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
So what Trump understood was.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
All right, I need to find the pain point to
get both men to the table. The pain point for
Zelensky as you're out of money, and the pain point
for Vladimir Putin was massive sanctions and going after the
oligarchs in Russia. That's the pain point here. It's actually
very simple. Is it is not hard to figure out
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the math here. And so when Trump tells Putin to
end the Ukraine War now or else we can do
it the easy way of the hard way, he's not flinching.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
He actually means it.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
You want to know who else, by the way, is
calling for an immediate end of the war after Trump
won the election, Hamas Donald Trump has been the president
now for a couple of days, and what we know
is that everyone is responding to the things that he
has said. Hamas is calling for the end to the
war in the Middle East because they don't want to
screw with Trump. The Iran back Huthis announced the ceasefire,
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and Putin said he's ready to work towards peace. What
else do you need to know here? Donald Trump is
not a bs politician. He always backs up his words
with real actions, and only actions matter to these men.
And unfortunately Zelenski knew that President Biden and the EU
did not have proper strategy or action to win against Putin.
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They knew that the money would flow in and they
would get risk they would get rich, and they knew
that there was going to be a lot of people
that were going to die while they were getting.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Rich, and they were totally fine with it.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
There's one other thing I think you need to know,
and this is also very very very interesting. Russian President
Vladimir Putin not only did he say he's ready to
come to the table, but he also congratulated Donald Trump
on his inauguration and says that Russia is ready for
quote peaceful relations with the US.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I think it's very clear that.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Vladimir Putin is spooked a little bit by Donald Trump
and they know.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
That he's not messing around.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
You look at just these late night moves where Putin
arrived at the Kremlin unusually late, and it comes, as
Reuters reports, Trump is calling for an immediate meeting. I mean,
this is midnight diplomacy or even something bigger brewing where
it's like wake his blank up and get him on
the phone. And what happened, Well, apparently Vladimir Putin got
in the car and went to the Kremlin.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Because he's now in this scenario.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
It's amazing, this is happening, and it's happening this fast. Now,
I go back to what I said at the very beginning.
Does this sound like a guy that is trying to
start World War three? No, this is a guy that
is clearly going to use the economic mechanisms at his
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disposal to get what he wants from people because he
doesn't want to go to war. And he's not listening
to the warmongers in Congress, are the people that are
begging for wars to break out so they can sell
you ammunition and rockets and missiles. Like, that's not what
Trump's going to allow to happen here. This is a
guy that doesn't want wars to break out. That's not
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good for the industrial complex. Military industrial complex. They love war,
they love Look the people.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
In Washington that are making money off this war between
Ukraine and Russia, and the amount of money they're making
is astronomical. Like, make no mistake.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
How much money these contractors and these lobbyists are making
because there's war and the amount of money these company,
these military contracts and these are making off of this war.
They don't want it to end, they want it to expand.
And what Donald Trump is said, I don't give a
crap about you making money off of war. I care
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about how many people are dying, and I want there
to be peace, and that, apparently, by the way, is
what we're about to get.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
And it looks like very quickly, all right.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
I want to shift also to another story that we
actually talked about yesterday, and that was in that sit
down interview that President Trump did from the Oval Office,
his first interview in the Oval Office, he gave to
Sean Hannity, and in that interview and I played it
for yesterday in the long version I have in the
yesterday show. So go back listen to that podcast if
you want to hear it all. But what I want
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you to hear, okay, is something specifically that Donald Trump said,
and there has been some fallout from this. Trump was
asked about, you know, why didn't you pardon yourself and
he was like, look, I was told that I should
do this, I could do this.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
I didn't do it because we didn't do anything wrong.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
And so that's why I didn't pardon myself and others
around me preemptively. And then he goes into Joe Biden's
pardons and he also says, Joe Biden may have screwed
up by not pardoning himself.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Take a listen.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
He heard that I going to do I didn't want
to do it. I was given the option. They said, sir,
would you like to pardon everybody, including yourself? I said,
I'm not going to pardon anybody. We didn't do anything wrong,
and we had people that suffered, their incredible patriots. We
had people that suffered. You had Bannon put in jail,
you had Peter Navarro put in jail. You had people
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that suffered, and far worse than that. They've lost their fortunes,
they've lost their whatever, their nest egg, paying it to
lawyers and those people. And people said to you, and
they don't even They wouldn't have even taken most of
those people, they wouldn't have even taken a parton. This
guy went around giving everybody pardons, And you know that
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the funny thing, maybe the sad thing, is he didn't
give himself a part.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
He didn't give himself a pardon.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Now I learned something today and I'm going to play
it for you because as I was doing the podcast
I do with Sentertach Cruz, I asked him about this audio.
And you're gonna hear his response to it. But he
also broke some news and I didn't know this. He said,
you know those that got all those pardons, well, guess what,
including Fauci, We can call them back to Congress to
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answer questions, and they cannot plead the fifth.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Let me say that again.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
They cannot plead the fifth Why because there is no
threat of actually self incrimination because they can't be charged
with crimes because they've been given a pardon, which means
they would then have to answer questions, and if they
chose not to answer questions, they could be inheld in
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contempt of Congress, which then they would vote on in Congress,
which would then go to the Department of Justice, which
is no longer run by the Democrats. It is run
by Donald Trump's administration. You see where I'm going with this.
This was just mind blowing to me. Take a listen
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to what Center Cruz had to say. I want to
get your thoughts on something that was said in Trump's
first sit down interview that he did in the Oval office.
He did it with our good friend John Hannity, and
he was asked about the pardons that Joe Biden gave
out and he made a comment, and I want to
get your reaction to it about, Hey, he may have
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messed up because he didn't pardon himself.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Take a listen.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
He heard that I was going to do I didn't
want to do it. I was given the option. They said, sure,
would you like to pardon everybody, including yourself. I said,
I'm not going to pardon anybody. We didn't do anything wrong,
and we had people that suffered, their incredible patriots. We
had people that suffered. You had Bennon put in jail,
you had Peter Navarro put in jail. You had people
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that suffered, and far worse than that. They've lost their fortunes,
they've lost their whatever, their nest egg, paying it to
lawyers and those people and people said to you, and
they don't even they wouldn't have even taken most of
those people. They wouldn't have even taken a part. This
guy went around giving everybody pardons, and you know that
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the funny thing, maybe the sad thing, is he didn't
give himself a parton.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
He didn't give himself a pardon.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Senator, I gotta I gotta ask you your take on
that is that is that a foreshadowing comment coming from
from Donald Trump.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
There, well, listen, it may well be. And we've been
been very clear. We've talked a lot on on on
Verdict about how the scandal with with Hunter Biden and
the Biden crime family was never about Hunter being a
you know, guy who abuses drugs and and and has
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made a lot of wrong choices in life. The scandal
was always that the entire Biden family made millions of
dollars selling favors from the big guy, selling favors from
Joe Biden. It was always about Joe Biden's corruption. And
we talked a lot about how the Biden doj that
the tell in terms of whether they were being politicized
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on protecting Biden would be if they fought in the
Hunter Biden investigation to protect Joe himself and to prevent
any inquiry into his corruption. If they kept it focused
on the drug crime or the gun crime, or even
the the the income tax crimes that were personal to
Hunter rather than examining the corruption, That's exactly what they did.
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And so I think that corruption needs to be investigated.
I think we need to enforce the law fairly regardless
of party. And I got to say, by the way
we predicted on this podcast when when the we number
one predicted the Hunter Biden pardon, and in fact I
put the odds of the hunder b and pardon at
one hundred percent. We even predicted the date. I said
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it would be December of twenty twenty four. It happened
on December first of twenty twenty four. But second when
that happened, we went on this podcast and predicted said
he's going to pardon the rest of his family. Well
he did that on the very last day, moments before
he left office. He pardoned the rest of his family
because they were all involved in the corruption. They were
all involved in selling favors. And so right now the
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only one with potential liability is Joe Biden himself. And
you know, Trump's right that it's interesting he didn't pardon himself. Well,
we'll see if that has real consequences. By the way,
one of the results of all these pardons is that
Congress can now subpoena the members of the Biden family
and force them to answer questions under oath, and they
don't have a Fifth Amendment right to decline to answer.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Really, okay, so a lot of people to know that
including me. So explain that.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
A little bit for everybody, because that is that is
big news.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
So the Fifth Amendment says that you can't be forced
to testify against yourself. Now, that only applies if you
have criminal jeopardy. If you can be prosecuted. Once you've
been pardoned, you have no criminal jeopardy, which means you
don't have the right to say, I'm not going to
answer that because I might incriminate myself in a crime.
Because if it's a federal crime, you can't be prosecuted
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for it, which means if you refuse to answer, you
can be held in contempt and put in jail. And
so it h it has changed.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
I will be there's a very there's a very real
chance that members of the Biden crime family that were
pardon could be asked to come and testify in Congress
and they would be forced to answer the questions for
the reasons you just stated, yep.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
And if they don't, by the way, same is true
about Fauci that you know, you know, Biden pardon Fauci.
That means Fauci doesn't have a Fifth Amendment right to
refuse to answer questions under oath. I certainly hope that
he's forced to answer those questions.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
And I got to say, so a hypotheticl You get
Fauci in front of you, you start asking him questions
and he just refuses to answer those questions.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Is that in contempt of Congress at that point.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
Well, Congress has to vote to hold him in contempt
for refusing to answer those questions, and then the Department
of Justice has to prosecute him. I got to say,
I think if Congress voted to hold him in contempt,
I think DOJ would prosecute him. And by the way,
to be clear, the Biden Department of Justice Trump mentioned
putting Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro in prison. They did
that because they held them in contempt to Congress. And
(27:28):
that was even aside from from pleading the fifth there
they just refused to testify, they argued, they asserted executive privilege,
and DOJ prosecuted them after Congress, after the House voter
to hold him in contempt of Congress.
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I want to go back to twenty sixteen. The Democrats
said then about Donald Trump that he was going to get.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Us into WORL war. Iie.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
The reality is, in my lifetime he was the only
president that actually didn't get us.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Into a war.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
He was a president that said we must have like
peace through strength, something that Ronald Reagan also understood. And
the President has been very clear that if he was elected,
he was going to immediately get involved with Vladimir Putin
and Zolensky and end this war. He called it a
senseless war that we have been funding, a war that
(00:37):
would not have continued to the point where we are
right now if it wasn't for the US financial involvement
and the military aid that we've been giving to Zolensky
and Ukraine. Well, I want to go back to what
President elect Trump said when he was getting ready to
come into the White House. He said he had a
(00:57):
strong interest in meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin and
discussed the ending of this ongoing war, saying this, look,
I know that Putin wants to meet, and the arrangements
are being made for this meeting. That was reported by
The Hill newspaper, The Kremlin, by the way, responded positively
with a spokesperson acknowledging quote a mutual desire quote unquote
(01:21):
to set up a meeting. Those specific details had not
been confirmed that coming from Sky News. Well, in his
recent speech at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Trump
emphasized his intentions three to one. Well, in his recent
speech at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Donald Trump
(01:42):
doubled down emphasizing his intentions to involve China as well
in the peace process, stating that China has quote a
great deal of power over the situation. He also warned
Vladimir Putin to end the war promptly, or as he
said yesterday, you will severe economic consequences, including high taxes, tariffs,
(02:04):
and sanctions on Russian goods. Well, that seems to change
everything in the calculations of Ladimir Putin over the last
twenty four hours. Moments ago on Fox this was the
reporting based on what I just told you from yesterday
and Vladimir Putin's response that.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
President Trump wants to meet immediately with Vladimir Putin and
that President Zelenski has told President Trump that he is
ready to make.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
A deal to end the war.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
So obviously a very big development on that front, and
we'll play it out for you as soon as we
get it. A number of other items crossing the wires
and making news that we're going to bring you when
we get that playback in just a moment to stick
around for that.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
So that's how they initially broke the news.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Then Donald Trump and I go back to what he
had to say a few days ago. He said this
on the nine as he was asked a question about
this meeting and what he expects. And this is again
laying that groundwork for diplomacy and power and strength bringing peace.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
President Putin wants to meet. He's said that even publicly,
and we have to get that war over with. That's
a bloody mess. Soldiers are being killed by the millions.
I looked at some very graphic pictures yesterday, the soldiers
that are being killed.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
You know, it's a flat field.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
The only thing that stops the bullet is a body.
These are It's a very very flat land, and the
soldiers are fighting and they are dying by the hundreds
of thousands.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
You listen to how we got here so quickly.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
How is it that we have a president that has
come in and this quickly is now saying we're going
to meet. We are now being told that Vladimir Putin
is willing to meet. Zelensky is saying he's willing to meet.
And they understand that this whole game that they've been playing,
and all the money that has been coming in to
Zelensky through foreign aid is ending specifically from the United
(04:09):
States of America because of Donald Trump. And so the
idea in this headline that President Trump wants to meet
immediately with Putin and Zelensky and they're ready to make
a deal to end this war tells you how much
of America's foreign policy was feeding this war. Because Zolensky
understands something here. He understands that he can't keep doing
(04:31):
what he's doing if he's not getting hundreds of billions
of dollars from the United States of America. Vladimir Putin
also understands that Donald Trump's threat that we can either
do this the easy way or the hard way through
sanctions and US coming after you economically right is going
to have major consequences on him.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Now.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Vladimir Putin said on his state TV channels that he
is ready to to discuss peace in Ukraine with President Trump.
Isn't it weird that we were told that Trump would
start World War three?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
He said that back in sixteen seventeen, eighteen nineteen.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
They've been saying that recently, and all of a sudden,
Donald Trump now plans to meet immediately with a Lenskimputiny
to negotiate the end of the war. This is the
difference between these two styles of political rhetoric and policies
of the US government, Trump is saying. And we now
have some more audio that's come in, and I was
(05:30):
doing this live, so I'm going to hear this for
the first time.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
This is President Trump and Davos. Take a listen.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
We'd like to see de nuclearization. In fact, with President
Putin prior to an election result, which was frankly ridiculous,
we were talking about the nuclearization of our two countries
and China would have come along. China has a much
smaller right now nuclear armament than us. Who feel the
(06:00):
US but they're going to be catching it at some
point over the next four or five years. And I
will tell you that President Putin really liked the idea
of cutting way back on nuclear and I think the
rest of the world. We would have gotten them to follow,
and China would have come along too. China also liked it.
Tremendous amounts of money of being spent on nuclear and
(06:23):
the destructive capability is something that we don't even want
to talk about today because you don't want to hear
it's too depressing. So we want to see if we
can denuclearize. And I think that's very possible. And I
can tell you that President Putin wanted to do it.
He and I wanted to do it. We had a
good conversation with China. They would have been involved, and
(06:46):
that would have been an unbelievable thing for the planet.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
By the way, does that sound like a guy that's
going to take us into World War three? No, of course,
on it doesn't sound like that at all.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
But what Donald Trump is saying is that not only
are we going to end this war, but President Putin
and I in China are going to begin the denuclearization
of our countries. He says, that is again great for
the world. So let's go back and listen again to
that news It just broke from Fox. The President Trump
(07:15):
as he was signing executive orders after everything that you
just heard him say, there is now reporting that they
are going to have an immediate like immediately, I want
to meet.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
This is what world leaders do.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
That President Trump wants to meet immediately with Vladimir Putin,
and that President Zelenski has told President Trump that he
is ready to make a deal to end the war.
So obviously a very big development on that front. And
we'll play it out for you as soon as we
get it. A number of other items, Uh, let.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Me just stop it there, like this is what leaders
sound like when they lead, right, like this is it?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Trump says that we are we want to meet with
the Russian president soon, and he said millions of lives
are being wasted, millions of lives. And then it's like
after that, got tractions like screw it, like not soon,
Let's just do it immediately.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Very important.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
I really would like to be able to meet with
President Putin soon and get that war. And that's not
from the standpoint of economy or anything else. That's from
the standpoint of millions of lives are being wasted. Beautiful
young people are being shot in the battlefield. You know,
the bullet very flat land, as I said, and the
(08:33):
bullet goes No, there's no hiding and a bullet. The
only thing is to stop the bullet is a human body.
And you have to see I've seen pictures of what's
taken place. It's a carnage and we really have to
stop that war. That war is horrible.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
And I'm not talking to economy.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
I'm not talking economics, I'm not talking about natural resource.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I'm just talking about there's so.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Many young people being killed in this war, and that's
not including the people that have been killed as the
cities are being knocked down, building by building, So we
really should get that stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Likewise, in the Middle East.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I mean, I love the way that he is saying this,
stop doing this. And the only thing that change is
Donald Trump turned off the military funding Spicott and as
soon as the money stopped flowing, now they're ready to negotiate.
As soon as he threatened putin we in this war
now or else. You can do it the easy way
or the hard way, and it's going to hurt your country.
(09:31):
And Zelenski's in trouble as well, and the Moneys stopping
the flow is going to end with me.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Now they're going, yeah, let's meet in this thing.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
How much blood does the Biden administration have on their
hands in Ukraine. That's the question the media should be
asking right now because clearly they were the ones funding
the damn war. As I'm also having this conversation with
you about Putin right now, I want you to know
that we're getting unconfirmed reports that Vladimir Putin was rushed to.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
The Kremlin in Moscow.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Now.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
The reports are coming from Russian telegram channels that are
posting videos of the motorcade and him being rushed to
the Kremlin. Why would this be happening, because it's very
clear I think Donald Trump's not screwing around Donald Trump,
and I want to go back and read the statement
that he put out on True Social and this is
(10:23):
again goes back to leadership quote.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I'm not looking to hurt Russia.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I love the Russian people and always had a very
good relationship with President Putin.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
And this despite the.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Radical lefts Russia Russia Russia hoax, we must never forget
that Russia helped us win the Second World War, losing
almost sixty million lives in the process. All of that
being said, I'm going to do Russia, whose economy is
failing and President Putin a very big favor.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Settle now and stop this ridiculous war.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
It's only going to get worse if we don't make
a deal soon. I have no other choice but to
put high levels of taxes, tariffs, and sanctions on anything
being sold by Russia to the United States and various
other participating countries. Let's get this war which never should
have started if I were president, which never would have
(11:14):
started if I were president, I should say over with.
We can do it the easy way or the hard way,
and the easy way is always better.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
It's time to make a deal. No more lives should
be lost.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
You know, for a guy that they said was going
to start World War three, that's one hell of a
way does not start World War three. A reporter also
asking the president another question about this, and here is
what the President said.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Moments ago, you pull for a ceasefire.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
In Ukraine, the labor group doesn't come to the table
to negotiate with you. Will you put additional sanctions on Russia?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
It sounds likely.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Do you think that the war should be frozen currently alone?
The war should have never started if you had a
competent president, which you did, and the war wouldn't have happened.
The war in Ukraine would have never happened I president.
But that couldn't happen because the election was rigged.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
So let's just recap this twenty four to forty eight
hours of massive movement.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Trump becomes president. He shuts down the funding.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
He says, you ain't getting it from US, Ukraine and
Russia if you don't stop this damn war. I'm going
to make sure that you suffer and your economy suffers
massive consequences that we both know you can't afford. So
the moment that Trump was horn in, Russia changed their policy.
The President Putin declared on state TV that he was
(12:33):
ready for a long term peace with Ukraine and says
Russia's open for dialogue with President Trump. This goes back
to what Donald Trump said if he was elected.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I'm going to have peace through strength.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I'm going to have the same policy, and I'm going
to use these sanctions in a hardcore way. And the
threat clearly seems to have worked, because I think Vadimir
Putin understand he's not blinking. It's not a threat if
you're going to do it, it's a reality, and he's
reading the room and he understands that Donald Trump is
going to do what he says he's going to do
(13:11):
to do and Zelenski understands he didn't have the money
to do what he's doing right now without American dollars
paying for it, subsidizing this death and destruction. Donald Trump
also said, I have a very good relationship with Putin's Zlensky.
I hope we can get more relations with us. Donald
(13:31):
Trump said, then, well, it takes two to tango.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
How do we know this was said, Well, the video
has been released.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
The president making clear is Elynski like, hey, dude, you're
not my friend.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Okay, you're not my guy.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I'm not going to sit here and treat you like
America has been treating you with just with open arms,
unlimited funds.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
So we have a very good relationship, and I also
have a very good relationship, as you know, with President Putin.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
And I think if we win, I think we're going
to get it resolved very quickly.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Word.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
I really think to get.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Normal.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Yeah, but you know, it takes two.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
To tench takes two to tango.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
President Trump's like, screw you man, Like you're the guy
out there hoarding all this money coming in from America.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
The amount of corruption. And this is what it really
boils down to.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
And I think part of the reason why Donald Trump
there was not real friendly with with with Zelenski is
he knows what he's dealing with.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
He's dealing with a thug. He's dealing with a con artist.
He's dealing with a.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Fake, you know, military general looking guy whears his fatigues
on the front, you know, but has people doing hair
and makeup for Vanny Fair when there's a quote war
going on. This is a guy and the oligarchs in
Ukraine that are getting rich off American dollars flowing into
that country to quote stand up to Vladimir Putin. And
so now the gig is up. I'm sure he's sitting
(14:49):
on billions. I'm sure his oligarks, his family members have
funneled billions into their pockets. They will never want or
need for the rest of their lives and their kids' lives.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
And they're grandkids lies.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
They are oligarchs now because of American dollars that they
have stolen.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
So what Trump understood was.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
All right, I need to find the pain point to
get both men to the table. The pain point for
Zelensky as you're out of money, and the pain point
for Vladimir Putin was massive sanctions and going after the
oligarchs in Russia. That's the pain point here. It's actually
very simple. Is it is not hard to figure out
(15:29):
the math here. And so when Trump tells Putin to
end the Ukraine War now or else we can do
it the easy way of the hard way, he's not flinching.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
He actually means it.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
You want to know who else, by the way, is
calling for an immediate end of the war after Trump
won the election, Hamas Donald Trump has been the president
now for a couple of days, and what we know
is that everyone is responding to the things that he
has said. Hamas is calling for the end to the
war in the Middle East because they don't want to
screw with Trump. The Iran back Huthis announced the ceasefire,
(16:04):
and Putin said he's ready to work towards peace. What
else do you need to know here? Donald Trump is
not a bs politician. He always backs up his words
with real actions, and only actions matter to these men.
And unfortunately Zelenski knew that President Biden and the EU
did not have proper strategy or action to win against Putin.
(16:28):
They knew that the money would flow in and they
would get risk they would get rich, and they knew
that there was going to be a lot of people
that were going to die while they were getting.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Rich, and they were totally fine with it.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
There's one other thing I think you need to know,
and this is also very very very interesting. Russian President
Vladimir Putin not only did he say he's ready to
come to the table, but he also congratulated Donald Trump
on his inauguration and says that Russia is ready for
quote peaceful relations with the US.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I think it's very clear that.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Vladimir Putin is spooked a little bit by Donald Trump
and they know.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
That he's not messing around.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
You look at just these late night moves where Putin
arrived at the Kremlin unusually late, and it comes, as
Reuters reports, Trump is calling for an immediate meeting. I mean,
this is midnight diplomacy or even something bigger brewing where
it's like wake his blank up and get him on
the phone. And what happened, Well, apparently Vladimir Putin got
in the car and went to the Kremlin.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Because he's now in this scenario.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
It's amazing, this is happening, and it's happening this fast. Now,
I go back to what I said at the very beginning.
Does this sound like a guy that is trying to
start World War three? No, this is a guy that
is clearly going to use the economic mechanisms at his
(17:57):
disposal to get what he wants from people because he
doesn't want to go to war. And he's not listening
to the warmongers in Congress, are the people that are
begging for wars to break out so they can sell
you ammunition and rockets and missiles. Like, that's not what
Trump's going to allow to happen here. This is a
guy that doesn't want wars to break out. That's not
(18:18):
good for the industrial complex. Military industrial complex. They love war,
they love Look the people.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
In Washington that are making money off this war between
Ukraine and Russia, and the amount of money they're making
is astronomical. Like, make no mistake.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
How much money these contractors and these lobbyists are making
because there's war and the amount of money these company,
these military contracts and these are making off of this war.
They don't want it to end, they want it to expand.
And what Donald Trump is said, I don't give a
crap about you making money off of war. I care
(18:57):
about how many people are dying, and I want there
to be peace, and that, apparently, by the way, is
what we're about to get.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
And it looks like very quickly, all right.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
I want to shift also to another story that we
actually talked about yesterday, and that was in that sit
down interview that President Trump did from the Oval Office,
his first interview in the Oval Office, he gave to
Sean Hannity, and in that interview and I played it
for yesterday in the long version I have in the
yesterday show. So go back listen to that podcast if
you want to hear it all. But what I want
(19:27):
you to hear, okay, is something specifically that Donald Trump said,
and there has been some fallout from this. Trump was
asked about, you know, why didn't you pardon yourself and
he was like, look, I was told that I should
do this, I could do this.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
I didn't do it because we didn't do anything wrong.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
And so that's why I didn't pardon myself and others
around me preemptively. And then he goes into Joe Biden's
pardons and he also says, Joe Biden may have screwed
up by not pardoning himself.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Take a listen.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
He heard that I going to do I didn't want
to do it. I was given the option. They said, sir,
would you like to pardon everybody, including yourself? I said,
I'm not going to pardon anybody. We didn't do anything wrong,
and we had people that suffered, their incredible patriots. We
had people that suffered. You had Bannon put in jail,
you had Peter Navarro put in jail. You had people
(20:23):
that suffered, and far worse than that. They've lost their fortunes,
they've lost their whatever, their nest egg, paying it to
lawyers and those people. And people said to you, and
they don't even They wouldn't have even taken most of
those people, they wouldn't have even taken a parton. This
guy went around giving everybody pardons, And you know that
(20:45):
the funny thing, maybe the sad thing, is he didn't
give himself a part.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
He didn't give himself a pardon.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Now I learned something today and I'm going to play
it for you because as I was doing the podcast
I do with Sentertach Cruz, I asked him about this audio.
And you're gonna hear his response to it. But he
also broke some news and I didn't know this. He said,
you know those that got all those pardons, well, guess what,
including Fauci, We can call them back to Congress to
(21:18):
answer questions, and they cannot plead the fifth.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Let me say that again.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
They cannot plead the fifth Why because there is no
threat of actually self incrimination because they can't be charged
with crimes because they've been given a pardon, which means
they would then have to answer questions, and if they
chose not to answer questions, they could be inheld in
(21:43):
contempt of Congress, which then they would vote on in Congress,
which would then go to the Department of Justice, which
is no longer run by the Democrats. It is run
by Donald Trump's administration. You see where I'm going with this.
This was just mind blowing to me. Take a listen
(22:06):
to what Center Cruz had to say. I want to
get your thoughts on something that was said in Trump's
first sit down interview that he did in the Oval office.
He did it with our good friend John Hannity, and
he was asked about the pardons that Joe Biden gave
out and he made a comment, and I want to
get your reaction to it about, Hey, he may have
(22:29):
messed up because he didn't pardon himself.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Take a listen.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
He heard that I was going to do I didn't
want to do it. I was given the option. They said, sure,
would you like to pardon everybody, including yourself. I said,
I'm not going to pardon anybody. We didn't do anything wrong,
and we had people that suffered, their incredible patriots. We
had people that suffered. You had Bennon put in jail,
you had Peter Navarro put in jail. You had people
(22:56):
that suffered, and far worse than that. They've lost their fortunes,
they've lost their whatever, their nest egg, paying it to
lawyers and those people and people said to you, and
they don't even they wouldn't have even taken most of
those people. They wouldn't have even taken a part. This
guy went around giving everybody pardons, and you know that
(23:18):
the funny thing, maybe the sad thing, is he didn't
give himself a parton.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
He didn't give himself a pardon.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Senator, I gotta I gotta ask you your take on
that is that is that a foreshadowing comment coming from
from Donald Trump.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
There, well, listen, it may well be. And we've been
been very clear. We've talked a lot on on on
Verdict about how the scandal with with Hunter Biden and
the Biden crime family was never about Hunter being a
you know, guy who abuses drugs and and and has
(23:56):
made a lot of wrong choices in life. The scandal
was always that the entire Biden family made millions of
dollars selling favors from the big guy, selling favors from
Joe Biden. It was always about Joe Biden's corruption. And
we talked a lot about how the Biden doj that
the tell in terms of whether they were being politicized
(24:17):
on protecting Biden would be if they fought in the
Hunter Biden investigation to protect Joe himself and to prevent
any inquiry into his corruption. If they kept it focused
on the drug crime or the gun crime, or even
the the the income tax crimes that were personal to
Hunter rather than examining the corruption, That's exactly what they did.
(24:41):
And so I think that corruption needs to be investigated.
I think we need to enforce the law fairly regardless
of party. And I got to say, by the way
we predicted on this podcast when when the we number
one predicted the Hunter Biden pardon, and in fact I
put the odds of the hunder b and pardon at
one hundred percent. We even predicted the date. I said
(25:03):
it would be December of twenty twenty four. It happened
on December first of twenty twenty four. But second when
that happened, we went on this podcast and predicted said
he's going to pardon the rest of his family. Well
he did that on the very last day, moments before
he left office. He pardoned the rest of his family
because they were all involved in the corruption. They were
all involved in selling favors. And so right now the
(25:25):
only one with potential liability is Joe Biden himself. And
you know, Trump's right that it's interesting he didn't pardon himself. Well,
we'll see if that has real consequences. By the way,
one of the results of all these pardons is that
Congress can now subpoena the members of the Biden family
and force them to answer questions under oath, and they
don't have a Fifth Amendment right to decline to answer.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Really, okay, so a lot of people to know that
including me. So explain that.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
A little bit for everybody, because that is that is
big news.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
So the Fifth Amendment says that you can't be forced
to testify against yourself. Now, that only applies if you
have criminal jeopardy. If you can be prosecuted. Once you've
been pardoned, you have no criminal jeopardy, which means you
don't have the right to say, I'm not going to
answer that because I might incriminate myself in a crime.
Because if it's a federal crime, you can't be prosecuted
(26:17):
for it, which means if you refuse to answer, you
can be held in contempt and put in jail. And
so it h it has changed.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
I will be there's a very there's a very real
chance that members of the Biden crime family that were
pardon could be asked to come and testify in Congress
and they would be forced to answer the questions for
the reasons you just stated, yep.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
And if they don't, by the way, same is true
about Fauci that you know, you know, Biden pardon Fauci.
That means Fauci doesn't have a Fifth Amendment right to
refuse to answer questions under oath. I certainly hope that
he's forced to answer those questions.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
And I got to say, so a hypotheticl You get
Fauci in front of you, you start asking him questions
and he just refuses to answer those questions.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Is that in contempt of Congress at that point.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
Well, Congress has to vote to hold him in contempt
for refusing to answer those questions, and then the Department
of Justice has to prosecute him. I got to say,
I think if Congress voted to hold him in contempt,
I think DOJ would prosecute him. And by the way,
to be clear, the Biden Department of Justice Trump mentioned
putting Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro in prison. They did
that because they held them in contempt to Congress. And
(27:28):
that was even aside from from pleading the fifth there
they just refused to testify, they argued, they asserted executive privilege,
and DOJ prosecuted them after Congress, after the House voter
to hold him in contempt of Congress.
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