May 10, 2025 • 31 mins
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Policy Overview:
- The Trump administration proposed paying $1,000 to undocumented immigrants who voluntarily leave the U.S.
- The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) would provide travel assistance and a stipend to those who use the CBP Home app to register and self-deport.
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Cost Savings:
- The policy is intended to save the government money, as deporting an undocumented immigrant typically costs around $17,000.
- By offering financial incentives for self-deportation, the government aims to reduce these costs to approximately $4,500 per person.
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Media and Public Reaction:
- The media has struggled to criticize the policy, with CBS News describing it as a "novel idea."
- Pro-immigration advocates have denounced the policy, urging undocumented immigrants to reject the offer.
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Implementation Details:
- Undocumented immigrants must register on the CBP Home app and file a notice to leave the U.S. to receive the financial assistance.
- The stipend is only paid once the individual is confirmed to have left the country.
- Those who register for self-deportation will be deprioritized for ICE arrests and may have the opportunity to return to the U.S. legally in the future.
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Political and Social Context:
- We highlight the political motivations behind the policy, including the Trump administration's efforts to reduce illegal immigration and save taxpayer money.
- It also discusses the broader implications for immigration enforcement and the potential impact on undocumented immigrants.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Media going crazy because they're actually having to cover a
brilliant idea from the Trump administration, the ideas to save
American taxpayer's money while also getting deportations underway in a
very serious way. With a large number of people self deporting.
How does it work? We're going to pay them to
(00:23):
do it. The Trump administration has now come out saying
they are willing to pay one thousand dollars to an
undocumented immigrant who self deports. The Department of Homeland Security
announce it will provide travel assistance and a thousand dollars
stipend to those who use the CBP home app to
actually leave the United States of America. The Department of
(00:47):
Home in Security says, we are intensifying our efforts to
persuade unauthorized immigrants to self deport by offering them the
thousand dollars stipend and the travel assistance.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
This was save Americans money. Now.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
The best part about this story is the fact that
the media is actually having to cover it and they
don't know how to criticize it.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
But they don't like it.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
CBS News putting a big story out there, and here's
how they explained it to their audience.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
So Willie, how would this actually work?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
And it is Julie, good to be with you on this
Monday afternoon. Well, the Trump administration is looking to deport
migrants this way in large part because it would save
the government money. That's part of the thinking here. A
Department of Homeland Security official explain that it costs about
seventeen thousand dollars to find and apprehend in a migrant
(01:40):
who is undocumented here in the United States and deport them,
so this could potentially save the government one thousands of
dollars per person, and the President spoke about this earlier today.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Listen, but what we thought we'd do is a self
deport where we're going to pay each one a certain
amount of money and we're going to get them a
beautiful flight back to where they came from, and they
have a period of time, and if they make it,
we're going to work with them so that maybe someday,
with a little.
Speaker 6 (02:08):
Work, they can come back in. If they're good.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
People, if they're the kind of people that we want
in our company, industrious people that could love our country,
and if they're not, they won't.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Now, the way that migrants can sign up for this
program is by using the CBP home app, that is
the app that was used under the Biden administration for
migrants to register themselves here so they could be the
government could have information about them and their status here
in the United States. But the Trump administration is using
(02:39):
this as a way for migrants to not only register themselves,
but to self deport as well. So the government looking
to save some money here, you're looking to collect some
information from those undocumented migrants. And I'll add that the
effort to deport migrants has really been slowed by the courts.
We've seen the Trump administration try to deport migrants in
(03:00):
different ways, using the Alien Enemies Act, for instance, but
this way in particular, quite a novel idea that the
Trump administration is using, but one that they believe could
save the government thousands of dollars per individual.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Julia, by the way, not thousands, tens of thousands of
dollars per immigrant illegal. Let's just call them what it
is legal. I also thought it was interesting there. You
may have heard the word from CBS News of them
actually saying this is quote a novel idea.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Now the left is just losing their mind.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Pro immigration advocates are slamming the Department of Home and Security,
the Trump administration offering this money, they are denouncing it,
and they're quote urging illegal migrants to reject President Donald
Trump's offer of one thousand dollars in the free airline
ticket to leave the country.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
This opinion might be worse for people who take advantage
of it, claimed Aaron Reshelan, a pro immigrant advocate for
the Immigration Council Advocacy group.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
For people illegal immigrants in immigration court, it would likely
mean a deportation order. For others not detained for deportation,
it would abandon clear options for staying. So they're saying
dig in, don't take de bait, don't leave America. Steven
Miller putting out a tweet putting it this way, The
(04:24):
savings are as much as one million per illegal alien family,
given the long term costs of free welfare and public support.
And that is exactly why the Trump administration is now
saying we are willing to begin paying for the commercial
flights of illegal aliens who self deport from the US.
(04:44):
We will pay these aliens in additional thousand dollars once
they are confirmed have left the country. The Department of
Oland Security, telling Fox News it will save American taxpayers
seventy percent, as it currently costs DHS on average over
seventeen one thousand to arrest, detain, and to port someone
from the US while paying for self removal flights, and
(05:06):
the stipend has protected to cost just four thousand, five
hundred and also will be safer for ICE and preserve
their resources. Illegal aliens here's the rules must register on
the CBP home app and file their notice to leave
the US in order to receive the financial assistance, and
the stipend will only be paid once the alien is
(05:27):
confirmed to have left the United States. Now, the question
is is one thousand dollars enough to get somebody to
want to leave the US. Some would say maybe the
numbers too low. Well, let me explain the other part
of the incentive here. The Department of Homeland Security is
telling Fox News that any aliens who register to self
(05:49):
deport will be immediately deprioritized for ICE arrests, meaning you
don't have to keep looking over your shoulder and will
maintain the ability to return to the United States of
America illegally in the future. Department of Home in Security
says they have already successfully tested out the financial assistance,
(06:11):
recently paying for an illegal alien to fly back to
Honduras from Chicago with more tickets that have already been
booked for this week. Christy Nome saying this in a
statement quote, if you are here illegally, self deportation is
the best, safest and most cost effective way to leave
(06:32):
the United States to avoid arrest. The DHS is now
offering illegal aliens financial travel assistance in a stipend to
return to their home country through the CBP home app.
This is the safest option for our law enforcement for
aliens and is a seventy percent savings for US taxpayers.
(06:53):
Download the CBP home app today and self deport again.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Those are the word from Christy Nome. Now.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
When this story broke, Fox News was the first to
tell all of the details, and here is more of
what they said.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
Dana, good morning to you.
Speaker 7 (07:10):
So Fox News can report exclusively that DHS will announce
today that they're going to start paying for the commercial
flights of illegal aliens who self deport from the US,
and on top of that, they're going to pay them
an additional one thousand dollars stipend once they're confirmed to
have left the country now. DHS says doing this is
going to be significantly cheaper for the American taxpayer. They
(07:31):
tell us that right now it costs on average, about
seventeen thousand dollars to arrest, detain, and deport someone. They say,
paying for self deportations and the stipend will only cost
about forty five hundred dollars per person. That's about seventy
percent cheaper. Aliens are going to have to register to
self deport on the new CBP home mapp to access
(07:51):
that DHS financial assistance, as well as announce their intent
to leave the country. DHS Secretary Christy Nome tells Fox
in part quote, if you are here illegally, self deportation
is the best, safest and most cost effective way to
leave the United States to avoid arrest. In the meantime,
here in the sanctuary city of Los Angeles, ICE confirms
(08:11):
the Fox News that three suspects arrested in connection with
the home invasion murder of a man in the Woodland
Hills neighborhood last Sunday are all in the US illegally.
ICE's acting director Todd Lyons tells Fox they are all
Georgia nationals. Two of whom were cotton released at the
border after crossing illegally, and the third, who overstayed a
tourist visa and listened to this, had two previous arrests
(08:34):
with ICE detainers on him ignored due to sanctuary policy.
Speaker 8 (08:38):
They were still allowed to stay here in the US
and commit crimes. So you have three individuals from the
nation of Georgia who didn't know each other, who have
now met up in the sanctuary state of California in
Los Angeles and killed an innocent person. For these elected officials,
I say, shame on you and Dana.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
Regarding DHS paying for those self deportation flights, they tell
us they've already tested this out successfully. They say they
paid recently for an illegal alien to fly from Chicago
back to Honduras. They tell us that any aliens who
sign up and register to self deport will be immediately
deprioritized as a target for ICE arrest. They say thousands
have self deported already. They anticipate that number is going
(09:19):
to shoot up significantly after today's announcement.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Yeah, seems like a const effective way to help handle
it as well.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Bill, You listens reporting from at Fox and Bill Mallusian,
who does an unbelievable job. By the way, when it
comes to stuff and you listen to what he said there,
This is a novel idea that is not crazy, that
saves us a lot of money, puts fewer people's lives
at risk when you're going after these legal immigrants, and
allows for people to have a chance to even come
(09:46):
back into the United States of America. This is a
win all the way around for everyone involved. And yet
the media is like, we don't know what to do
with it, Like we're trying to figure out a way
to criticize it. What do we say, how do we
undermine this, how do we attack it? How do we
get people to be angry about it? I go back
(10:06):
to the basics here. This is why I voted for
Donald Trump, because he was going to think outside the
box and when certain things weren't working, he was going
to try something else. And this is another way to
get rid of so many illegal immigrants in this country.
It was a very interesting interview that President Donald Trump
did with Meet the Press. You probably didn't watch it,
as many didn't, and if you missed it, there was
(10:30):
some parts in there that I do want to play
for you. Now, I thought about kind of cutting this
up a little bit, and then I decided to know,
I want you to feel the flow of the interview
because NBC News comes out of the gate with like
kind of like an easy, kind question, and then the
demeanor starts to change. And I do think that's part
of the importance of this interview. Now, it was a
(10:51):
solid hour, and I'm going to give you some of
the longer highlights, including the very beginning where NBC News
Christian Walker sat down with the President about his quote
first hundred days in office, and here is how she
introduced him and her first question.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
President Trump, welcome back to meet the press.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 9 (11:08):
Thank you so much for being here to mark your
first one hundred days in office. It has been an
incredibly busy one hundred days. You've signed more than one
hundred and forty executive orders. You've been focused on the border,
of the economy, foreign policy.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
What is your biggest goal in the next one hundred days.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
Well, I think we're going to see a lot of results.
We've already seen them on the border. We have the
best vord in the history of our country. It was
ninety nine point nine ninety nine, and nobody ever thought
that was possible. In fact, Biden, if you remember, said
he has to get legislation, and I said, no, you
just need a new president. And I guess I was right.
We have the best border we've ever had, We're doing
(11:48):
great on illegal immigration. We are being hit hard by
judges that I think they're trying to take away the
power of the presidency. I was elected in a massive
landslod and a big vote. We won the swing states,
we won the popular vote, we won the district votes
by tremendous numbers. We want everything, and one of the reasons,
(12:10):
one of the primary reasons I was elected, was to
get people out of our country that were allowed. We
have prisoners, we have murderers, we have terrorists.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
In our country.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
We have people from mental institutions that are seriously insane.
They all came in through Biden's open border policy, and
I was elected to get them out and to seal
the border, but to get them out.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
And we'll have judges. They're activist judges.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
They're saying, well, you know, you don't have the right
to take out murderers and people that you don't even
want to talk about. These are really some really bad
criminal people, and they're here illegally. So you know, they
talk about your next question will be due process. But
they talk about due process, but do you get due
process when you're here illegally.
Speaker 9 (12:55):
We're going to talk about all of that. We are
going to talk about deportation. But I want to start
on this economy, sir, which obviously the biggest issue for voters.
We got new numbers today, better than expected, job numbers,
much better. At the same time, the economy shrank in
the first quarter. You've been arguing all week that this
is President Biden's economy. Is this now your economy?
Speaker 7 (13:18):
Sir?
Speaker 5 (13:18):
Well, I think certain aspects of it are Costs are
I was able to get down the costs, but even that,
it takes a while to get them down, but we
got them down good. We lost five to six billion
dollars a day with Biden, five to six billion, and
I've got that down to a great number right now
in a record time. You know, we're talking about one
(13:40):
hundred days, but just think of what that is. Five
billion dollars a day. We're losing on trade, and we
were very tough with China.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
As you know.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
We've put one hundred and forty five percent tariff on.
Nobody's ever heard of such a thing. And we've essentially
cut off trade relationships by putting that much of a
tariff on. And that's okay. We've gone cold turkey. That
means that we're not losing you know, we lost a
trillion dollars to China, a trillion dollars. That means we're
not losing a trillion dollars when we go cold Turkey
(14:12):
because we're not doing business with them right now and
they want to make a deal. They want to make
a deal very badly. We'll see how that all turns out,
but it's got to be a fair deal.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
But think of it.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
We're losing a trillion dollars and that was a big
part of the five million dollars a day.
Speaker 9 (14:27):
And I want to talk about China, but just staying
on this idea of the economy. On the eve of
your inauguration, the stock market spiked. You called it the
Trump effect.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
Are you spike because I was elected president? Well, spike
because of anybody else. It's spike because they see what
I'm going to do. They know what I'm going to
do with the tariffs and everything else, and I think
it's actually working out better than we anticipated. Do you
see oil prices? Did you see gasoline is now below
in many cases, in many states below two dollars.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
A gallon one ninety eight, ninety nine, one ninety seven.
Speaker 9 (15:03):
Well, my question, sir, is when the stock market spiked,
you said this is the Trump effect. When the numbers
weren't so good earlier this week, you said it's the
Biden effect. Are you only taking ownership of the good
numbers and not the bad number?
Speaker 5 (15:16):
I think he did a lot of very bad things,
and despite some of the bad things, were overcoming them.
But he was bad on the border. He was bad
on the economy. We had the worst inflation in the
history of our country. Look, Biden gave us the worst
inflation in the history of our country. People didn't matter
what they made because they were losing their shirt. Because
of course, now take a look at what happened. Oil
(15:39):
is down, gasoline is down, groceries are down.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
Eggs.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
You were the one that asked me. You asked me
about eggs. It was the first week I didn't even
know anything about. What were you talking about? Egg prices
were so high you couldn't buy eggs. They didn't have
any eggs, and they said, Easter is going to be
a disaster. Well, we had easter at the White House
and we had thousands of and they were down eighty
seven percent.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Yeah, a lot of that, of course, spike was because
of bird flu. But when does it become the Trump
al Why do you say that?
Speaker 6 (16:08):
Well, tell me when did we had the same bird
flu as he?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
When does it become the Trump economy?
Speaker 5 (16:15):
It partially is right now, And I really mean this.
I think the good parts of the Trump economy and
the bad parts of the Biden economy because he's done.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
A terrible job.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
He did a terrible job and everything from his auto pen,
which I'm sure he knew nothing about some of the
things he was supposedly signing, to immigration. You look at
what happened with immigration, how bad it was.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
Think of it.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
We have murderers, eleven eight hundred and eighty eight murderers,
many of them murdered more than one person. Think of that,
and they're in our country. Now, We've gotten a lot
of them out and we know who many of them are, and.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
We're on the hunt.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
But why would anybody do that? Why would anybody who
could do such a thing. Would it allow hundreds of
thousands and even millions of people into our country or
criminals and murderers at the highest level.
Speaker 9 (17:06):
But sir, you acknowledged when you announced your tariffs, for example,
the stock market dropped, it's been volatile, it has since
gone up. Do you take responsibility that, yeah? Do you
take responsibility?
Speaker 6 (17:19):
Ultimately?
Speaker 5 (17:19):
I take responsibility for everything. But I've only just been
here for a little more than three months. But the
stock market, look at what's happened in the last short
period of time. It didn't have nine or ten days
in a row or eleven days where it's gone up.
And the tariffs have just started kicking in, and we're
(17:40):
doing really well psychologically. I mean, the fake news was
giving me such press on the tariffs.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
The tariffs are going to make us rich. We're going
to be a very rich country.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
So let's talk about the tariffs. And I want to
ask you about something you said this week got a
lot of attention. You were at your cabinet meeting.
Speaker 9 (17:57):
You said, quote and quote what you said, maybe the
children will have two dollars instead of thirty dollars, and
maybe the two dolls will cost a couple of bucks
more than they would normally. Are you saying that your
tariffs will cause some prices to go up.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
No, I think the tariffs is going to be great
for us because it's going to make us rich.
Speaker 9 (18:14):
But you said some dolls are going to cost more.
Isn't that an acknowledgement that some prices.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Will go up.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
I don't think a beautiful baby girl needs it's eleven
years old, needs to have thirty dollars. I think they
can have three dollars or four dollars. Because what we
were doing with China was just unbelievable. We had a
trade deficit of hundreds of billions of dollars with China.
Speaker 9 (18:37):
When you say they could have three dollars instead of
thirty dollars, are you saying Americans could see empty store shelves.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
No, No, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying they
don't need to have thirty dollars. They can have three.
They don't need to have two hundred and fifty pencils,
they can have five.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
But you're basically saying there could be some supply.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Sure, because of the waste money trade deficit with China
for things we don't need for junk that we don't need.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
And obviously that's exactly what I told you a moment ago.
You can see how the immediately the interview just started
to change right into the we hate Donald Trump, Orange
Man bad.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
You're the problem. It's not anybody else.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
It's not the media, it's not Biden, it's not the
liberals that destroyed this country.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
No, you're the bad guy. And Kristen Welker goes all in.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I got to say in the interview, and you can
hear how quickly the media again not only the coming
after Trump, but they're also putting words in his mouth,
lying about what he's saying. When he said that a
little girl doesn't need thirty dollars maybe three or four, Like,
we don't need the trade deficit we have, We don't
need this idea that we're addicted to all this cheap
stuff and they get to take advantage of us, and
(19:49):
the point he was making. They're like, well, are you
saying we're going to run shortages? Like that's not what
I said at all. Do you need thirty pencils or five?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Right?
Speaker 1 (19:56):
He was talking about changing the mentality of the way
we trade with China, and they're like, oh, so massive
shortges are coming. That's not what I said at all.
They're constantly trying to put words of his mouth and long,
keep listening as the next question comes. And this is
where the contingent comes from from NBC.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
This is already going up on some popular strollers.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
This is such a dishonest interview. Already, prices are down
on groceries. Prices are down for oil, prices are down
for oil.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
Energy.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Prices are down at tremendous numbers for gasoline. And let
me tell you when you have the big thing.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
What he did.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
He spent like a stupid person, which he was, but
he spent like a very stupid person. And that was
bad for inflation. But what really killed us with inflation
was the price of energy. It went up to three
dollars and ninety even four dollars and in California five
and six dollars. Right, okay, I have it down to
a dollar ninety eight in many states right now. When
(20:57):
you go that much lower on energy, which is ahead
of my prediction because I really thought I could get
it down into the two fifties. We have it down
at a dollar ninety eight in numerous places. But when
you say courts are going up, even mortgage rates are
going down.
Speaker 9 (21:15):
Well, let me give you some examples. These are I mean,
these are actual examples. They're going So you're saying the
prices that are going down, some prices are going up. Tires, strollers,
some clothing in the wake of your territory.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
That's peanuts compared to energy. Energy is sixty percent of
the cost sir.
Speaker 9 (21:34):
You campaign on a promise to bring prices down on day, Well.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
I don't know when you say strollers are going up?
What kind of a thing I'm saying that gasoline is
going down. Gasoline is thousands of times more important than
as a strollers somebody, What do you.
Speaker 9 (21:50):
Say to Americans who say they voted for you because
they want and they need relief right now, and.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
They're getting it right now. What about those.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
Even mortgage rates different items. Mortgage rates are going down
despite the fact that we have a stubborn fed But.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
You said dolls, even dolls could cost a couple bucks more.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
Maybe they might, But you don't need to have us.
I said, thirty five dollars. You can have two, three,
four and save a lot of money. We don't need
to feed the beast.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
I guess you're talking about this transition cost. How long
should people expect that transition to last?
Speaker 5 (22:22):
Mister President, I can't tell you that. I can tell
you that we're making a lot of money. We're doing
great again. We're losing more than five billion dollars a day.
Five billion dollars a day. You don't talk about that,
and right now we're going to be at a point
very soon where we're making money every day.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Look how soon.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
We were losing hundreds of billions of dollars with China.
Now we're essentially not doing business with China. Therefore we're
saving hundreds of billions of dollars. Very simple.
Speaker 9 (22:56):
You take me to my next question, which is about China.
They've been making a number of public statements.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
There is positive statements the last twenty four hours.
Speaker 9 (23:05):
Well, and most recently they said before talks could happen,
the US would need to remove unilateral tariffs. Would you
consider dropping the tariffs to get China to the negotiating team.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
No, First of all, you're giving me a statement that
was said a week ago.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
You're not giving the statement that was said today.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
I have may second Chinese Commerce ministry.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
Do you know what they said today the US wants.
Speaker 9 (23:28):
To negotiate, it should show sincerity by preparing to take
actions and correcting its mistakes and canceling the unilateral tariffs
they made.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
First of all, they made numerous statements.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Yes, they've made people speak for China fifty made numerous I.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
Can't give you a statement for any occasion. Yes, but
they said today they want to talk. Look China and
I don't like this. I'm not happy about this. Chinese
is getting killed right now. They're getting absolutely destroyed. Their
factories are closing, their unemployment is going through the roof.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
I'm not looking to do that to China now.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
At the same time, I'm not looking to have China
make hundreds of millions of dollars and build more ships
and more army tanks and more aeroplanes.
Speaker 9 (24:09):
So you're not just be very clear, you're not dropping
the tariffs against China to get them to the negotiating table.
Those tariffs are staying on what I would you lower them.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
At some point.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
I'm going to lower them because otherwise you could never
do business with them, and they want to do business
very much. Look, their economy is really doing badly. Their
economy is collapsing.
Speaker 9 (24:31):
So small businesses say they are being hurt by the
Chinese tariffs, and some could be forced to show how.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
Many businesses have been helped.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Are you look at care of relief for small business?
Speaker 7 (24:42):
What do you.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Always mention that you know, you pick up a couple
of little businesses? What about the car business? They're going
to make a fortune because of the teriffs? Do you
know that the union? The head of the union who
is no fan of mine, Faine Sean Fain. I guess
his name is right. He didn't indorce me the team
suits did a lot of people did, lot of unions did,
but he didn't. He couldn't stand me. Now he's saying, Wow,
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what's Trump's done for the automobile? But I can't believe it.
I assume he's going to probably now say. The next
thing you can say is I endorse this guy. He's
the greatest I've ever seen. He can't believe it's happened.
He said, We've been waiting forty years for somebody to
do what Trump is doing. So why don't you mention
the big car industry instead of mentioning somebody that's doing strollers?
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Well, I'm just asking you about small businesses.
Speaker 9 (25:28):
Are there any discussions about giving any relief to small businesses?
Speaker 10 (25:33):
They're not going to need it, Okay, Are these they're
going to make so much money? Are these if you
build your product here, remember there are no tariffs. If
you build your product here, it's very easy, it's very simple.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Are these tariffs permanent, mister President.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
Depends on what you took in about one of the
things that is going to bring and has brought. So
I think we probably have close to nine trees million
dollars of investments coming into this country. If you look
at other presidents, there's never been anything like that. This
is over a period of two months. You've got to
give me a little break on the one month because
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we're three months. But you know, let's say we had
to get started. We had a lot of fake news
at the beginning, so we had to beat that down.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
But so let's say in two months.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
So in just a short period of time, a matter
of a couple of months, we have the largest number
ever in history invested in the United States and committed.
We have between guaranteed spoken for and people that are
going to make a decision and announcer pretty simplost to
nine trillion dollars.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
We've never had anything close.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
Now that's Apple building five hundred billion dollars worth of plans.
They always built their plants in China. Now they're building
their plants over here. That's the biggest computer company, the
biggest chip company in the world, you know, the chip
company from Taiwan, which is the biggest in the World's
committed for five hundred billion. Another one's committed for three
hundred billion. We have companies nobody's ever.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
Seen anything like it.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
Let me tell you the other thing, very importantly, automobile companies,
plant after plant after plant, Toyota, Honda for General motors, stillantis.
I mean, nobody's ever seen anything like it. And I
don't like this, but it happens to be. They're stopping
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work in Mexico, and they're stopping work in Canada, and
they're all moving here.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
This is important, though.
Speaker 9 (27:30):
You're not taking the possibility that these tariffs could be
permanent off the table some of them.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
I wouldn't do that because if somebody thought they were
going to come off the table, why would they build
in the United States?
Speaker 6 (27:43):
Ask you, do you understand that?
Speaker 10 (27:44):
Right?
Speaker 6 (27:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (27:45):
No, I mean that's why I'm asking because there's a
lot of I think uncertainty for CEOs, for business owners.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
They want to know are they permanent.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
I think there's only uncertainty in the fake news. I
don't think there's uncertainty. I mean, I've been very rigid,
very strong, but I will say I have I'm flexible.
Like with respect to parts made outside of the country.
I gave the automobile companies a little extra time. You know,
you're talking about fifteen percent and then ten percent of.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
The parts made put in a car.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
I gave them a little extra time without penalizing them.
And I did that only to help, you know, companies.
We're looking to help companies. We want them to thrive
and to hire a lot of people. And that's what's happening.
Speaker 9 (28:24):
Let me ask you about some of what Wall Street
has said. Some people on Wall Street have expressed concerns
that the possibility of a recession is increasing, And I
want to know what you think about that. Are you
comfortable with the country potentially dipping into a recession for
a period of time if you are able to achieve
your long term goals?
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Well, you know, you say some people on Wall Street say, well,
I like to tell you something else. Some people on
Wall Street say that we're going to have the greatest
economy in history. Why don't you talk about them because
some people on Wall Street say this is well, that's what.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
I'm getting at. That's what I'm getting at.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Though there are many people, there are many people on
Wall Street say this is going to be the greatest
windfall ever happened.
Speaker 9 (29:05):
And that's my question over the long term. Is it
okay in the short term to have our sessions?
Speaker 5 (29:11):
Look, yeah, everything's okay. What we are I said, this
is a transition period. I think we're going to do fantastically.
One of your colleagues on another fake news station, ABC said,
do you guarantee one hundred percent that a certain person
is going to do a fantastic job as let's say,
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secretary of Defense? Okay, because that was the question, I said,
what kind of a question is that? Do I guarantee
one hundred percent? Nobody guarantees one hundred percent, But I
will say this, I think we're going to have an
economy the likes of.
Speaker 6 (29:45):
Which we've never had before.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
You know, my four years were phenomenal, as you know,
the stock market in fact, even though we had to
go through the COVID thing, that horrible situation with COVID.
We did numbers and when I gave it over, when
I handed it over, the election was rigged and I
handed it and because of that, we have a lot
of problems, by the way, But when I handed it over,
what happened. The market was higher than it was previous to.
(30:11):
Just previous to COVID coming in. Nobody could believe it.
The sock market I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
You listen to President here, and there is a certain
level of sophistication with this president where he's like, I'm
not backing down.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
I'm not afraid to have a long discussion.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
I'm going to call you out when you say things
that are egregious, and We're going to move forward in
all of these interviews, having these conversations and I'm not
going to back down.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
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I'll see you back here tomorrow.
Media going crazy because they're actually having to cover a
brilliant idea from the Trump administration, the ideas to save
American taxpayer's money while also getting deportations underway in a
very serious way. With a large number of people self deporting.
How does it work? We're going to pay them to
(00:23):
do it. The Trump administration has now come out saying
they are willing to pay one thousand dollars to an
undocumented immigrant who self deports. The Department of Homeland Security
announce it will provide travel assistance and a thousand dollars
stipend to those who use the CBP home app to
actually leave the United States of America. The Department of
(00:47):
Home in Security says, we are intensifying our efforts to
persuade unauthorized immigrants to self deport by offering them the
thousand dollars stipend and the travel assistance.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
This was save Americans money. Now.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
The best part about this story is the fact that
the media is actually having to cover it and they
don't know how to criticize it.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
But they don't like it.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
CBS News putting a big story out there, and here's
how they explained it to their audience.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
So Willie, how would this actually work?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
And it is Julie, good to be with you on this
Monday afternoon. Well, the Trump administration is looking to deport
migrants this way in large part because it would save
the government money. That's part of the thinking here. A
Department of Homeland Security official explain that it costs about
seventeen thousand dollars to find and apprehend in a migrant
(01:40):
who is undocumented here in the United States and deport them,
so this could potentially save the government one thousands of
dollars per person, and the President spoke about this earlier today.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Listen, but what we thought we'd do is a self
deport where we're going to pay each one a certain
amount of money and we're going to get them a
beautiful flight back to where they came from, and they
have a period of time, and if they make it,
we're going to work with them so that maybe someday,
with a little.
Speaker 6 (02:08):
Work, they can come back in. If they're good.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
People, if they're the kind of people that we want
in our company, industrious people that could love our country,
and if they're not, they won't.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Now, the way that migrants can sign up for this
program is by using the CBP home app, that is
the app that was used under the Biden administration for
migrants to register themselves here so they could be the
government could have information about them and their status here
in the United States. But the Trump administration is using
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this as a way for migrants to not only register themselves,
but to self deport as well. So the government looking
to save some money here, you're looking to collect some
information from those undocumented migrants. And I'll add that the
effort to deport migrants has really been slowed by the courts.
We've seen the Trump administration try to deport migrants in
(03:00):
different ways, using the Alien Enemies Act, for instance, but
this way in particular, quite a novel idea that the
Trump administration is using, but one that they believe could
save the government thousands of dollars per individual.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Julia, by the way, not thousands, tens of thousands of
dollars per immigrant illegal. Let's just call them what it
is legal. I also thought it was interesting there. You
may have heard the word from CBS News of them
actually saying this is quote a novel idea.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Now the left is just losing their mind.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Pro immigration advocates are slamming the Department of Home and Security,
the Trump administration offering this money, they are denouncing it,
and they're quote urging illegal migrants to reject President Donald
Trump's offer of one thousand dollars in the free airline
ticket to leave the country.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
This opinion might be worse for people who take advantage
of it, claimed Aaron Reshelan, a pro immigrant advocate for
the Immigration Council Advocacy group.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
For people illegal immigrants in immigration court, it would likely
mean a deportation order. For others not detained for deportation,
it would abandon clear options for staying. So they're saying
dig in, don't take de bait, don't leave America. Steven
Miller putting out a tweet putting it this way, The
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savings are as much as one million per illegal alien family,
given the long term costs of free welfare and public support.
And that is exactly why the Trump administration is now
saying we are willing to begin paying for the commercial
flights of illegal aliens who self deport from the US.
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We will pay these aliens in additional thousand dollars once
they are confirmed have left the country. The Department of
Oland Security, telling Fox News it will save American taxpayers
seventy percent, as it currently costs DHS on average over
seventeen one thousand to arrest, detain, and to port someone
from the US while paying for self removal flights, and
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the stipend has protected to cost just four thousand, five
hundred and also will be safer for ICE and preserve
their resources. Illegal aliens here's the rules must register on
the CBP home app and file their notice to leave
the US in order to receive the financial assistance, and
the stipend will only be paid once the alien is
(05:27):
confirmed to have left the United States. Now, the question
is is one thousand dollars enough to get somebody to
want to leave the US. Some would say maybe the
numbers too low. Well, let me explain the other part
of the incentive here. The Department of Homeland Security is
telling Fox News that any aliens who register to self
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deport will be immediately deprioritized for ICE arrests, meaning you
don't have to keep looking over your shoulder and will
maintain the ability to return to the United States of
America illegally in the future. Department of Home in Security
says they have already successfully tested out the financial assistance,
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recently paying for an illegal alien to fly back to
Honduras from Chicago with more tickets that have already been
booked for this week. Christy Nome saying this in a
statement quote, if you are here illegally, self deportation is
the best, safest and most cost effective way to leave
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the United States to avoid arrest. The DHS is now
offering illegal aliens financial travel assistance in a stipend to
return to their home country through the CBP home app.
This is the safest option for our law enforcement for
aliens and is a seventy percent savings for US taxpayers.
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Download the CBP home app today and self deport again.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Those are the word from Christy Nome. Now.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
When this story broke, Fox News was the first to
tell all of the details, and here is more of
what they said.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
Dana, good morning to you.
Speaker 7 (07:10):
So Fox News can report exclusively that DHS will announce
today that they're going to start paying for the commercial
flights of illegal aliens who self deport from the US,
and on top of that, they're going to pay them
an additional one thousand dollars stipend once they're confirmed to
have left the country now. DHS says doing this is
going to be significantly cheaper for the American taxpayer. They
(07:31):
tell us that right now it costs on average, about
seventeen thousand dollars to arrest, detain, and deport someone. They say,
paying for self deportations and the stipend will only cost
about forty five hundred dollars per person. That's about seventy
percent cheaper. Aliens are going to have to register to
self deport on the new CBP home mapp to access
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that DHS financial assistance, as well as announce their intent
to leave the country. DHS Secretary Christy Nome tells Fox
in part quote, if you are here illegally, self deportation
is the best, safest and most cost effective way to
leave the United States to avoid arrest. In the meantime,
here in the sanctuary city of Los Angeles, ICE confirms
(08:11):
the Fox News that three suspects arrested in connection with
the home invasion murder of a man in the Woodland
Hills neighborhood last Sunday are all in the US illegally.
ICE's acting director Todd Lyons tells Fox they are all
Georgia nationals. Two of whom were cotton released at the
border after crossing illegally, and the third, who overstayed a
tourist visa and listened to this, had two previous arrests
(08:34):
with ICE detainers on him ignored due to sanctuary policy.
Speaker 8 (08:38):
They were still allowed to stay here in the US
and commit crimes. So you have three individuals from the
nation of Georgia who didn't know each other, who have
now met up in the sanctuary state of California in
Los Angeles and killed an innocent person. For these elected officials,
I say, shame on you and Dana.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
Regarding DHS paying for those self deportation flights, they tell
us they've already tested this out successfully. They say they
paid recently for an illegal alien to fly from Chicago
back to Honduras. They tell us that any aliens who
sign up and register to self deport will be immediately
deprioritized as a target for ICE arrest. They say thousands
have self deported already. They anticipate that number is going
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to shoot up significantly after today's announcement.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Yeah, seems like a const effective way to help handle
it as well.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Bill, You listens reporting from at Fox and Bill Mallusian,
who does an unbelievable job. By the way, when it
comes to stuff and you listen to what he said there,
This is a novel idea that is not crazy, that
saves us a lot of money, puts fewer people's lives
at risk when you're going after these legal immigrants, and
allows for people to have a chance to even come
(09:46):
back into the United States of America. This is a
win all the way around for everyone involved. And yet
the media is like, we don't know what to do
with it, Like we're trying to figure out a way
to criticize it. What do we say, how do we
undermine this, how do we attack it? How do we
get people to be angry about it? I go back
(10:06):
to the basics here. This is why I voted for
Donald Trump, because he was going to think outside the
box and when certain things weren't working, he was going
to try something else. And this is another way to
get rid of so many illegal immigrants in this country.
It was a very interesting interview that President Donald Trump
did with Meet the Press. You probably didn't watch it,
as many didn't, and if you missed it, there was
(10:30):
some parts in there that I do want to play
for you. Now, I thought about kind of cutting this
up a little bit, and then I decided to know,
I want you to feel the flow of the interview
because NBC News comes out of the gate with like
kind of like an easy, kind question, and then the
demeanor starts to change. And I do think that's part
of the importance of this interview. Now, it was a
(10:51):
solid hour, and I'm going to give you some of
the longer highlights, including the very beginning where NBC News
Christian Walker sat down with the President about his quote
first hundred days in office, and here is how she
introduced him and her first question.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
President Trump, welcome back to meet the press.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 9 (11:08):
Thank you so much for being here to mark your
first one hundred days in office. It has been an
incredibly busy one hundred days. You've signed more than one
hundred and forty executive orders. You've been focused on the border,
of the economy, foreign policy.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
What is your biggest goal in the next one hundred days.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
Well, I think we're going to see a lot of results.
We've already seen them on the border. We have the
best vord in the history of our country. It was
ninety nine point nine ninety nine, and nobody ever thought
that was possible. In fact, Biden, if you remember, said
he has to get legislation, and I said, no, you
just need a new president. And I guess I was right.
We have the best border we've ever had, We're doing
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great on illegal immigration. We are being hit hard by
judges that I think they're trying to take away the
power of the presidency. I was elected in a massive
landslod and a big vote. We won the swing states,
we won the popular vote, we won the district votes
by tremendous numbers. We want everything, and one of the reasons,
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one of the primary reasons I was elected, was to
get people out of our country that were allowed. We
have prisoners, we have murderers, we have terrorists.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
In our country.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
We have people from mental institutions that are seriously insane.
They all came in through Biden's open border policy, and
I was elected to get them out and to seal
the border, but to get them out.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
And we'll have judges. They're activist judges.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
They're saying, well, you know, you don't have the right
to take out murderers and people that you don't even
want to talk about. These are really some really bad
criminal people, and they're here illegally. So you know, they
talk about your next question will be due process. But
they talk about due process, but do you get due
process when you're here illegally.
Speaker 9 (12:55):
We're going to talk about all of that. We are
going to talk about deportation. But I want to start
on this economy, sir, which obviously the biggest issue for voters.
We got new numbers today, better than expected, job numbers,
much better. At the same time, the economy shrank in
the first quarter. You've been arguing all week that this
is President Biden's economy. Is this now your economy?
Speaker 7 (13:18):
Sir?
Speaker 5 (13:18):
Well, I think certain aspects of it are Costs are
I was able to get down the costs, but even that,
it takes a while to get them down, but we
got them down good. We lost five to six billion
dollars a day with Biden, five to six billion, and
I've got that down to a great number right now
in a record time. You know, we're talking about one
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hundred days, but just think of what that is. Five
billion dollars a day. We're losing on trade, and we
were very tough with China.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
As you know.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
We've put one hundred and forty five percent tariff on.
Nobody's ever heard of such a thing. And we've essentially
cut off trade relationships by putting that much of a
tariff on. And that's okay. We've gone cold turkey. That
means that we're not losing you know, we lost a
trillion dollars to China, a trillion dollars. That means we're
not losing a trillion dollars when we go cold Turkey
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because we're not doing business with them right now and
they want to make a deal. They want to make
a deal very badly. We'll see how that all turns out,
but it's got to be a fair deal.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
But think of it.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
We're losing a trillion dollars and that was a big
part of the five million dollars a day.
Speaker 9 (14:27):
And I want to talk about China, but just staying
on this idea of the economy. On the eve of
your inauguration, the stock market spiked. You called it the
Trump effect.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
Are you spike because I was elected president? Well, spike
because of anybody else. It's spike because they see what
I'm going to do. They know what I'm going to
do with the tariffs and everything else, and I think
it's actually working out better than we anticipated. Do you
see oil prices? Did you see gasoline is now below
in many cases, in many states below two dollars.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
A gallon one ninety eight, ninety nine, one ninety seven.
Speaker 9 (15:03):
Well, my question, sir, is when the stock market spiked,
you said this is the Trump effect. When the numbers
weren't so good earlier this week, you said it's the
Biden effect. Are you only taking ownership of the good
numbers and not the bad number?
Speaker 5 (15:16):
I think he did a lot of very bad things,
and despite some of the bad things, were overcoming them.
But he was bad on the border. He was bad
on the economy. We had the worst inflation in the
history of our country. Look, Biden gave us the worst
inflation in the history of our country. People didn't matter
what they made because they were losing their shirt. Because
of course, now take a look at what happened. Oil
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is down, gasoline is down, groceries are down.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
Eggs.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
You were the one that asked me. You asked me
about eggs. It was the first week I didn't even
know anything about. What were you talking about? Egg prices
were so high you couldn't buy eggs. They didn't have
any eggs, and they said, Easter is going to be
a disaster. Well, we had easter at the White House
and we had thousands of and they were down eighty
seven percent.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Yeah, a lot of that, of course, spike was because
of bird flu. But when does it become the Trump
al Why do you say that?
Speaker 6 (16:08):
Well, tell me when did we had the same bird
flu as he?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
When does it become the Trump economy?
Speaker 5 (16:15):
It partially is right now, And I really mean this.
I think the good parts of the Trump economy and
the bad parts of the Biden economy because he's done.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
A terrible job.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
He did a terrible job and everything from his auto pen,
which I'm sure he knew nothing about some of the
things he was supposedly signing, to immigration. You look at
what happened with immigration, how bad it was.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
Think of it.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
We have murderers, eleven eight hundred and eighty eight murderers,
many of them murdered more than one person. Think of that,
and they're in our country. Now, We've gotten a lot
of them out and we know who many of them are, and.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
We're on the hunt.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
But why would anybody do that? Why would anybody who
could do such a thing. Would it allow hundreds of
thousands and even millions of people into our country or
criminals and murderers at the highest level.
Speaker 9 (17:06):
But sir, you acknowledged when you announced your tariffs, for example,
the stock market dropped, it's been volatile, it has since
gone up. Do you take responsibility that, yeah? Do you
take responsibility?
Speaker 6 (17:19):
Ultimately?
Speaker 5 (17:19):
I take responsibility for everything. But I've only just been
here for a little more than three months. But the
stock market, look at what's happened in the last short
period of time. It didn't have nine or ten days
in a row or eleven days where it's gone up.
And the tariffs have just started kicking in, and we're
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doing really well psychologically. I mean, the fake news was
giving me such press on the tariffs.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
The tariffs are going to make us rich. We're going
to be a very rich country.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
So let's talk about the tariffs. And I want to
ask you about something you said this week got a
lot of attention. You were at your cabinet meeting.
Speaker 9 (17:57):
You said, quote and quote what you said, maybe the
children will have two dollars instead of thirty dollars, and
maybe the two dolls will cost a couple of bucks
more than they would normally. Are you saying that your
tariffs will cause some prices to go up.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
No, I think the tariffs is going to be great
for us because it's going to make us rich.
Speaker 9 (18:14):
But you said some dolls are going to cost more.
Isn't that an acknowledgement that some prices.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Will go up.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
I don't think a beautiful baby girl needs it's eleven
years old, needs to have thirty dollars. I think they
can have three dollars or four dollars. Because what we
were doing with China was just unbelievable. We had a
trade deficit of hundreds of billions of dollars with China.
Speaker 9 (18:37):
When you say they could have three dollars instead of
thirty dollars, are you saying Americans could see empty store shelves.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
No, No, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying they
don't need to have thirty dollars. They can have three.
They don't need to have two hundred and fifty pencils,
they can have five.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
But you're basically saying there could be some supply.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Sure, because of the waste money trade deficit with China
for things we don't need for junk that we don't need.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
And obviously that's exactly what I told you a moment ago.
You can see how the immediately the interview just started
to change right into the we hate Donald Trump, Orange
Man bad.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
You're the problem. It's not anybody else.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
It's not the media, it's not Biden, it's not the
liberals that destroyed this country.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
No, you're the bad guy. And Kristen Welker goes all in.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I got to say in the interview, and you can
hear how quickly the media again not only the coming
after Trump, but they're also putting words in his mouth,
lying about what he's saying. When he said that a
little girl doesn't need thirty dollars maybe three or four, Like,
we don't need the trade deficit we have, We don't
need this idea that we're addicted to all this cheap
stuff and they get to take advantage of us, and
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the point he was making. They're like, well, are you
saying we're going to run shortages? Like that's not what
I said at all. Do you need thirty pencils or five?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Right?
Speaker 1 (19:56):
He was talking about changing the mentality of the way
we trade with China, and they're like, oh, so massive
shortges are coming. That's not what I said at all.
They're constantly trying to put words of his mouth and long,
keep listening as the next question comes. And this is
where the contingent comes from from NBC.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
This is already going up on some popular strollers.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
This is such a dishonest interview. Already, prices are down
on groceries. Prices are down for oil, prices are down
for oil.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
Energy.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Prices are down at tremendous numbers for gasoline. And let
me tell you when you have the big thing.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
What he did.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
He spent like a stupid person, which he was, but
he spent like a very stupid person. And that was
bad for inflation. But what really killed us with inflation
was the price of energy. It went up to three
dollars and ninety even four dollars and in California five
and six dollars. Right, okay, I have it down to
a dollar ninety eight in many states right now. When
(20:57):
you go that much lower on energy, which is ahead
of my prediction because I really thought I could get
it down into the two fifties. We have it down
at a dollar ninety eight in numerous places. But when
you say courts are going up, even mortgage rates are
going down.
Speaker 9 (21:15):
Well, let me give you some examples. These are I mean,
these are actual examples. They're going So you're saying the
prices that are going down, some prices are going up. Tires, strollers,
some clothing in the wake of your territory.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
That's peanuts compared to energy. Energy is sixty percent of
the cost sir.
Speaker 9 (21:34):
You campaign on a promise to bring prices down on day, Well.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
I don't know when you say strollers are going up?
What kind of a thing I'm saying that gasoline is
going down. Gasoline is thousands of times more important than
as a strollers somebody, What do you.
Speaker 9 (21:50):
Say to Americans who say they voted for you because
they want and they need relief right now, and.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
They're getting it right now. What about those.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
Even mortgage rates different items. Mortgage rates are going down
despite the fact that we have a stubborn fed But.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
You said dolls, even dolls could cost a couple bucks more.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
Maybe they might, But you don't need to have us.
I said, thirty five dollars. You can have two, three,
four and save a lot of money. We don't need
to feed the beast.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
I guess you're talking about this transition cost. How long
should people expect that transition to last?
Speaker 5 (22:22):
Mister President, I can't tell you that. I can tell
you that we're making a lot of money. We're doing
great again. We're losing more than five billion dollars a day.
Five billion dollars a day. You don't talk about that,
and right now we're going to be at a point
very soon where we're making money every day.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Look how soon.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
We were losing hundreds of billions of dollars with China.
Now we're essentially not doing business with China. Therefore we're
saving hundreds of billions of dollars. Very simple.
Speaker 9 (22:56):
You take me to my next question, which is about China.
They've been making a number of public statements.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
There is positive statements the last twenty four hours.
Speaker 9 (23:05):
Well, and most recently they said before talks could happen,
the US would need to remove unilateral tariffs. Would you
consider dropping the tariffs to get China to the negotiating team.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
No, First of all, you're giving me a statement that
was said a week ago.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
You're not giving the statement that was said today.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
I have may second Chinese Commerce ministry.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
Do you know what they said today the US wants.
Speaker 9 (23:28):
To negotiate, it should show sincerity by preparing to take
actions and correcting its mistakes and canceling the unilateral tariffs
they made.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
First of all, they made numerous statements.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Yes, they've made people speak for China fifty made numerous I.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
Can't give you a statement for any occasion. Yes, but
they said today they want to talk. Look China and
I don't like this. I'm not happy about this. Chinese
is getting killed right now. They're getting absolutely destroyed. Their
factories are closing, their unemployment is going through the roof.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
I'm not looking to do that to China now.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
At the same time, I'm not looking to have China
make hundreds of millions of dollars and build more ships
and more army tanks and more aeroplanes.
Speaker 9 (24:09):
So you're not just be very clear, you're not dropping
the tariffs against China to get them to the negotiating table.
Those tariffs are staying on what I would you lower them.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
At some point.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
I'm going to lower them because otherwise you could never
do business with them, and they want to do business
very much. Look, their economy is really doing badly. Their
economy is collapsing.
Speaker 9 (24:31):
So small businesses say they are being hurt by the
Chinese tariffs, and some could be forced to show how.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
Many businesses have been helped.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Are you look at care of relief for small business?
Speaker 7 (24:42):
What do you.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Always mention that you know, you pick up a couple
of little businesses? What about the car business? They're going
to make a fortune because of the teriffs? Do you
know that the union? The head of the union who
is no fan of mine, Faine Sean Fain. I guess
his name is right. He didn't indorce me the team
suits did a lot of people did, lot of unions did,
but he didn't. He couldn't stand me. Now he's saying, Wow,
(25:05):
what's Trump's done for the automobile? But I can't believe it.
I assume he's going to probably now say. The next
thing you can say is I endorse this guy. He's
the greatest I've ever seen. He can't believe it's happened.
He said, We've been waiting forty years for somebody to
do what Trump is doing. So why don't you mention
the big car industry instead of mentioning somebody that's doing strollers?
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Well, I'm just asking you about small businesses.
Speaker 9 (25:28):
Are there any discussions about giving any relief to small businesses?
Speaker 10 (25:33):
They're not going to need it, Okay, Are these they're
going to make so much money? Are these if you
build your product here, remember there are no tariffs. If
you build your product here, it's very easy, it's very simple.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Are these tariffs permanent, mister President.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
Depends on what you took in about one of the
things that is going to bring and has brought. So
I think we probably have close to nine trees million
dollars of investments coming into this country. If you look
at other presidents, there's never been anything like that. This
is over a period of two months. You've got to
give me a little break on the one month because
(26:10):
we're three months. But you know, let's say we had
to get started. We had a lot of fake news
at the beginning, so we had to beat that down.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
But so let's say in two months.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
So in just a short period of time, a matter
of a couple of months, we have the largest number
ever in history invested in the United States and committed.
We have between guaranteed spoken for and people that are
going to make a decision and announcer pretty simplost to
nine trillion dollars.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
We've never had anything close.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
Now that's Apple building five hundred billion dollars worth of plans.
They always built their plants in China. Now they're building
their plants over here. That's the biggest computer company, the
biggest chip company in the world, you know, the chip
company from Taiwan, which is the biggest in the World's
committed for five hundred billion. Another one's committed for three
hundred billion. We have companies nobody's ever.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
Seen anything like it.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
Let me tell you the other thing, very importantly, automobile companies,
plant after plant after plant, Toyota, Honda for General motors, stillantis.
I mean, nobody's ever seen anything like it. And I
don't like this, but it happens to be. They're stopping
(27:24):
work in Mexico, and they're stopping work in Canada, and
they're all moving here.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
This is important, though.
Speaker 9 (27:30):
You're not taking the possibility that these tariffs could be
permanent off the table some of them.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
I wouldn't do that because if somebody thought they were
going to come off the table, why would they build
in the United States?
Speaker 6 (27:43):
Ask you, do you understand that?
Speaker 10 (27:44):
Right?
Speaker 6 (27:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (27:45):
No, I mean that's why I'm asking because there's a
lot of I think uncertainty for CEOs, for business owners.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
They want to know are they permanent.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
I think there's only uncertainty in the fake news. I
don't think there's uncertainty. I mean, I've been very rigid,
very strong, but I will say I have I'm flexible.
Like with respect to parts made outside of the country.
I gave the automobile companies a little extra time. You know,
you're talking about fifteen percent and then ten percent of.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
The parts made put in a car.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
I gave them a little extra time without penalizing them.
And I did that only to help, you know, companies.
We're looking to help companies. We want them to thrive
and to hire a lot of people. And that's what's happening.
Speaker 9 (28:24):
Let me ask you about some of what Wall Street
has said. Some people on Wall Street have expressed concerns
that the possibility of a recession is increasing, And I
want to know what you think about that. Are you
comfortable with the country potentially dipping into a recession for
a period of time if you are able to achieve
your long term goals?
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Well, you know, you say some people on Wall Street say, well,
I like to tell you something else. Some people on
Wall Street say that we're going to have the greatest
economy in history. Why don't you talk about them because
some people on Wall Street say this is well, that's what.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
I'm getting at. That's what I'm getting at.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Though there are many people, there are many people on
Wall Street say this is going to be the greatest
windfall ever happened.
Speaker 9 (29:05):
And that's my question over the long term. Is it
okay in the short term to have our sessions?
Speaker 5 (29:11):
Look, yeah, everything's okay. What we are I said, this
is a transition period. I think we're going to do fantastically.
One of your colleagues on another fake news station, ABC said,
do you guarantee one hundred percent that a certain person
is going to do a fantastic job as let's say,
(29:33):
secretary of Defense? Okay, because that was the question, I said,
what kind of a question is that? Do I guarantee
one hundred percent? Nobody guarantees one hundred percent, But I
will say this, I think we're going to have an
economy the likes of.
Speaker 6 (29:45):
Which we've never had before.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
You know, my four years were phenomenal, as you know,
the stock market in fact, even though we had to
go through the COVID thing, that horrible situation with COVID.
We did numbers and when I gave it over, when
I handed it over, the election was rigged and I
handed it and because of that, we have a lot
of problems, by the way, But when I handed it over,
what happened. The market was higher than it was previous to.
(30:11):
Just previous to COVID coming in. Nobody could believe it.
The sock market I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
You listen to President here, and there is a certain
level of sophistication with this president where he's like, I'm
not backing down.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
I'm not afraid to have a long discussion.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
I'm going to call you out when you say things
that are egregious, and We're going to move forward in
all of these interviews, having these conversations and I'm not
going to back down.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
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