December 8, 2025 • 31 mins
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Minnesota Fraud Scandal
- Allegations of massive fraud in Minnesota’s federally funded nutrition programs during the COVID-19 pandemic, reportedly involving the nonprofit Feeding Our Future and members of the Somali community.
- Claims that as much as $1 billion in taxpayer funds were stolen, with over 50 convictions already secured.
- Criticism of Governor Tim Walz, a former vice-presidential candidate, for allegedly ignoring warnings and retaliating against whistleblowers.
- Suggests political fallout for Walz, including vulnerability in reelection and potential presidential ambitions.
- Mentions SBA Secretary Kelly Loeffler’s statement on X (formerly Twitter) accusing Walz of obstructing investigations and announcing probes into Somali-linked organizations.
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Media Controversy Over Military Strike on Drug Boats
- Discussion of NBC and Washington Post reports questioning legality of U.S. military strikes on Venezuelan drug boats under Trump administration orders.
- Senator Tom Cotton defends the strikes on Meet the Press, asserting all individuals on the boat were valid targets based on intelligence.
- Commentary accuses mainstream media of bias and attempts to undermine Trump and his administration.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
There is a scandal that is brewing in Minnesota that
is costing taxpayers hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars.
It involves a man that the Democratic Party said should
be the Vice President of the United States of America,
Tim Waltz. This scandal is now involving, as I mentioned,
hundreds of millions of dollars that were stolen from a
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federally funded nutrition program, and him now may starve the
Minnesota governor's chances of a political future. The Hill newspaper
is reporting this weekend the controversy involving Minnesota's influential Smalley
community focuses on millions and millions of dollars stolen from
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the program and has led to more than fifty convictions.
This was a massive fraud. Federal prosecutors are now accusing
dozens of people of stealing funds from a government program
that was to feed children during the coronavirus pandemic. What
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happened in reality anything but that. Even The New York
Times put the story on the radar of legacy media
outlets on November twenty ninth, with a report that federal
prosecutors said as much as one billion dollars. I'm gonna
say that again, as much as one billion dollars. This
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is all taxpayer money may have been stolen in separate
fraudulent schemes. Longtime allies are reportedly wondering if the governor
should walk away from a reelection attempt for a third
term as governor. That according to DC political news outlet
The Hill. The Hill also reporting it this way, quote,
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the governor I think has done a very respectable job,
a good job in Minnesota for the years that he's
been there. But he clearly is vulnerable, and in my view,
he is riskier than any Democratic candidate that might run.
That is what a former Minnesota Democratic state senator and
a political analyst in the state said. There was another
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one that also said fraud happened on his watch and
that Waltz can't erase that, while another political analyst said
the governor is taking steps to rectify it, including audits.
Those investigations will probably uncover more what more of your
tax dollars being stolen? Now, All of these Minnesota analysts
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said the issue is the headlines in Minnesota nearly every
other day are coming up with more money that has
been stolen from taxpayers, and they are now predicting the
issue will quote continue to surface through the next year.
I mean, there's a very good chance that this could
be a massive amount of waste, fraud and abuse, corruption
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that has caught rusting taxpayers. Not millions, not tens of millions,
not hundreds of millions, but billions of dollars literally, And
this is just in one state. All of this happening
under the leadership of former VP candidate and Governor Tim Woltz.
That's what people need to understand. On Saturday, by the way,
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a small business Administration, the SBA Secretary Kerry Lawfler posted
on Exit the SBA was also uncovering fraud and accused
the governor of using his quote best efforts to obstruct
the investigation. I'm going to read for you her exact
tweet so you understand exactly what was said, because this
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goes back to just how corrupt the state is. Numerous
Kelly Laffer put individuals and nonprofits indicted in the one
billion dollar Minnesota COVID fraud scandal, including Feeding our Future,
received SBA PPP loans in addition to other state and
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federal funding. Today, I have ordered an investigation into the
network of Somali organizations and executives implicated in these schemes.
Despite Governor Walt's best efforts to obstruct SBA continues to
work to expose abuse and hold the purpetutors accountable full stop. Now,
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this is I would argue a national emergency. I also
think the federal government should cut off all funding to
the state of Minnesota until the state can prove there
is no more fraud. I mean it when I say
they should actually cut it off. Why would you send
federal tax dollars there knowing now what we know. The
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bottom line is simple, you follow the money and until
there's accountability, you don't give them any more money. Now,
another longtime ally of Governor Waltz told The Hill that
the controversy could not only sink his gouvernentor re election
for a third term, but likely a presidential bid that
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he's been obsessing over as well. The challenges are the
men are that Minnesota has a very low tolerance for fraud, waste,
and abuse. It's a very low threshold, and that's one
of the reasons the state has worked so well for
so long. The unnamed ally said, it's clearly a real vulnerability.
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Nearly five hundred. By the way, employees in Minnesota state's
government say that Governor Waltz deliberately ignored their constant warnings
about the massive fraud by Somali's in the state's aid programs,
also alleging that his allies punished whistleblowers for raising the alarms.
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Waltz's sixty one He was introduced into the national political
spotlight sixteen months ago when then Vice President Kamala Harris
chose the I guess you could call him an animated
governor as her running mate. Quote. I think we all
had our high hopes for him, but I don't think
he's a very effective running mate at the end of
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the day. That's what one top Democrats strategist said to
The Hill. It never seems like he was comfortable in
that role beyond his roll out. Now you go back
to those that were screaming about the waste, fraud, and abuse,
and this goes back to Governor Waltz's leadership. Nearly five
hundred and the majority of them, I'm being told we're Democrats,
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registered Democrats. Nearly five hundred employees in Minnesota's state government
say the Democratic governor Tim Waltz ignored their constant warnings
about massive fraud by Somali's of the state aid program.
The staffers in the state Department of Health Services also
say that Waltz retaliated against them for exposing the corruption
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in the States Somali community. Why because he didn't want
to lose a Somali vote. The group of state employees
have been operating an x account for several years where
they warned the public of cases of fraud and theft
that they are finding in the aid programs. It's all there,
you can go read it. In the years pass they
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warned the former Democratic presidential candidate that the citizens of
Minnesota and the Democratic Party needed to understand the widespread
issues that they were uncovering. But in a new post,
the group is saying that not only has Waltz ignored
their warnings, he has punished them for raising the alarm. Quote.
Tim Waltz is one hundred percent responsible for massive fraud
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in Minnesota, the group said in November twenty ninth posts,
referencing the New York Times article on the crimes. We
let Tim Waltz know of the fraud early on, hoping
for a partnership and stopping fraud. But no, we got
the opposite response. They added Walt's thematically retaliated against the whistleblowers,
using monitoring threats, repression, and did his best to discredit
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fraud reports. Instead of a partnership, we got the full
weight of retaliation by Tim Watts, certain DFL members and
an indifferent mainstream media. It's scary, isolating, and left us
wondering who can we turn to now we know it's
costing us more than a billion dollars. I want you
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That's Compassion dot Com. I want to move to Senator
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Tom Cotton into another story that's also extremely important, and
it deals with the mainstream media trying to push a
narrative that are men and women in uniform of somehow
should be court martial, should be put in jail, should
be imprisoned, that they are murderers. Why because they said
that if you go after those on a drug boat
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who are carrying drugs, who are narco terrorists and you
shoot them, that apparently that's an execut The Democrats and
the media have teamed together. They have partnered with one
another to try to undermine the present keeping us safe
from narco terras who are bringing countless amounts of fetanyl
in pills into this country. There are many days where
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upwards of three hundred people die from accidental fetanyl overdoses.
I want you to think about that these narco terrasts
are killing hundreds of Americans every day, and what is
the media doing to hurt Donald Trump and to try
to attack him. They're trying to say, oh, drug boats
are not in fact valid targets. The Washington Post even
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ran an insane story saying that there were fishermen that
were targeted that were actually on a drug boat. Anything
to undermine President Trump. Senator Tom Cotton went on Meet
the Press and was asked about the quote, as NBC
News allege drug boats even though you can see the
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drugs on the boat, they want to put doubt in
the American people's minds. And I want you to listen
carefully to what he had to say.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
And joining me now is the chairman of the Senate
Intelligence Committee who was in those briefings this week, Republican
Tom Cotton of Arkansas. Senator Cotton, welcome back to Meet
the Press. Thanks for having me on, Christen, thank you
so much for being here after a very big week.
I want to ask you about our new reporting. NBC
News is reporting this morning the Defense Secretary Pete Hegseith
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his order was to kill all eleven individuals on that
boat because they were on a list of Narco terrorists
who intelligence and military officials determined could be legally targeted.
Was Secretary Hegsis's order to kill everyone on the boat
because they were on this target list.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Senator the ordered, like the entire operation Kristen, is to
destroy these drug boats which are running drugs under our
country from foreign drug cartels and traffickers that are killing
hundreds of our Canons every year and hundreds of thousands
of Americans. Now, of course, before our military conducts such
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a strike, they have multiple sources of intelligence. They give
high confidence that everyone on that boat is a foreign
drug trafficker, not an innocent civilian who's being human trafficked,
for instance. And therefore Secretary Hegseeth said, and I agree,
they're all valid targets. Now, this controversy, let's remember, all
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started with a Washington Post story about nine days ago
that said after the first strike there were two survivors
that were helpless, and then they were ordered to kill
these helpless survivors. That is simply not the case. They
were not floating in the ocean on a wooden plane
or in life jackets. They were on the capsized vessel.
They were not incapacitated in any way. It was entirely
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appropriate to strike the boat again to make sure that
it cargo was destroyed. It is in no way violation
of the law of war. And I think the Washington
Post O Secretary Hexath and especially Admiral Mitch Bradley, a
highly decorated career Navy seal, an apology for that slander.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Now you hear Tom Cotton correct the record. This is
the man that served his country. He explains the reality
of the situation. This is a reality that NBC News
already knows. I want you to listen how Christian Welker
responds on Meet the Press to what was just said,
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and listen to her pushback.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Okay, and we're going to get to what you saw
in the video momentarily. But I just want to be
very clear because what you're saying is significant. Senator, it
sounds like you're confirming. Did Admiral Bradley brief lawmakers that,
in fact, all of the people on that boat were
on a military target list.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
I did not hear him personally say anything about a
military target list. Now, he had several briefings the day.
I wasn't in the briefing, for instance, with Mark Warner,
my counterpart in the Senate Intelligence Committee. I can only
say what he told me. He said they had high confidence,
based on multiple sources of intelligence, that everyone on that
boat was part of a foreign or foreign terrorist organization
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and been designated by the US.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Government, so they could be legally targeted. They could be
officially and legally targeted. Be argued, yes, okay.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Both before the first strike and after the first strike.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Was Admiral Bradley acting on Secretary Hexas orders.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Senator, Well, anytime you have an operation like this, there's
an operation order. It's written down, it's got very detailed instructions.
I think because this was the first strike, Secretary Hegseth
and Admiral Bradley both wanted to be present and be
making the decision. As you heard Secretary Hegseth in the
opening say, he initiated the first strike. You've seen the video.
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There's a lot of smoke. It takes a long time
to clear. I'm sure Secretary Hecsath had many other matters
that he had to attend to, and he trust Admiral Bradley.
Once the smoker clear, once cloud covered cleared, it was
clear that the first strike had not destroyed the boat
or Admiral Bradley made a decision for the second strike.
Now in subsequent strike since then, because there's been more
than twenty obviously it's no longer a Secretary, Hesath or
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even four star generals making that decision, nor should it be.
But on the first strike, I believe they both wanted
to be present and be observing it.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Let me ask you about the aftermath of that first strike,
the Pentagon's Law of War manual, which you're familiar by.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
The way, let's just stop there and let's just talk
about this for a second. You have the Senate Intelligence
Committee chairman saying that all the people on a Venezuelan
drug boat were subject to the Trump administration cracked down
the Caribbean where quote valid targets quote unquote, Welker says,
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I want to ask you about our new reporting NBC
WWOS reporting this morning that defend Secretary Pete his order
was to kill all eleven individuals on the boat because
they were on a list of narco terras who intelligence
and military officials determined could be legally targeted. Was Secretary
Heads ordered to kill everyone on the boat because as
they were on the target list, And Cotton said the
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order like the entire operation, Kristen is to destroy these
drug boats which are running drugs in her country from
foreign drug cartels and traffickers that are killing hundreds of
our Kansas that's the state he represents every year and
killing hundreds of thousands of Americans. That's a fact of course.
Before a military conducts such a strike, they have multiple
sources of intelligence. They give high confidence everyone in the
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boat is a foreign drug trafficker, not an innocent civilian
who's being human trafficked for instance. Secretary of Headseth and
I agree, they're all valid targets. You understand that when
you hear this story, this should be the end of it.
Why did the media run with this story because they
hate Donald Trump and they want to put somebody in
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jail in his administration. I'm going to state again, they
want to put somebody in jail in his administration. That
is what this is really all about. And they want
people in our military. And this was just what two
weeks after they put out that video saying you can
defy orders. Remember that you can defy the president's orders,
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they were calling for a military coup, slash insurrection. That
is what they were calling for and now they're saying,
if you are a part of this, you deserve to
go to jail, that you are some sort of war criminal.
Another example of this. It is totally insane. I cannot
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tell you how frustrating it is to watch how un
American these men and women in law enforcement actually are.
I cannot tell you how frustrating it is to watch
these men and women who hide behind keyboards and say,
I'm a journalist who clearly are there putting out propaganda
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to destroy our men and women in uniform by the cartels.
You've got to ask yourself this question, who are they
really working for? I'm going to say that again, who
are they really working for? Are the journalists working for
the cartels? It's a question at this point everyone should
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a really really cool book. It is a book that
you should definitely check out as a Christmas gift for
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anyone in your family that loves politics, loves President Trump.
I also will say this, it's a really good book
to give to a woke liberal in your family. It's
a great stocking stuffer. That's where I would really go
with this because it just it's gonna make for a
great conversation that also, I can promise you you know
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him from CNN. His name Scott Jennings. The book A
Revolution of Common Sense, and it is a book that
you got to write. And Scott welcome. It's so nice
to have you on the Ben Ferguson Show. This is
a book that you got to sit down and have
multiple conversations with President Trump, but not only with President Trump,
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but with members of his cabinet. What made you decide
to write this book, When did you decide to write it,
and how did you approach the president to be involved
in it?
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Well, thanks Ben for having me on and thanks for
your endorsement. I was watching the President's inaugural address in
January and he used his phrase a revolution of common
sense and I turned to Van Jones on the set
and I said, that would make a really great book title.
So I've never written a book. I've been thinking about it,
and that title spoke to me. That phrase spoke to
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me because it kind of summed up what Trump had
been branding his political movement. And so in early February
I went talked to President about it and got him
to agree to cooperate. And as you said, I've sat
down with him, I traveled with him, I observed him
in meetings. I talked to the cabinet, I talked to
the White House senior staff, and I sort of melded
those conversations and observations with what I was doing on
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CNN and some of the big issues of the first
you know, one hundred hundred and twenty days. So it's
really a story about how Trump stormed back into Washington
and sort of overwhelmed the bureaucracy and the Democrats and
the media in order to get a lot of things
done right out of the gate.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
One of the things that I think is really cool
in this book, and for everybody listening again, you can
grab on Amazon orherever you get your books, it's say
Revolution of common sense, how Donald Trump stormed Washington and
fought for Western civilization. Scott, is you set down with
cabinet members, I think this cabinet is going to go
down in history, is one of the most loyal cabinets
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to a president that their job was to really, I
think they understood it early on, was to execute the
will of the voters, the will of the people, and
the will of what got Donald Trump elected. They understood
going in that they needed to be a cabinet that
was united. They need to be a cabinet that was
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really I think the best way to describe as being
tight lipped and not leaking to the press. This cabinet
is insanely different than President Trump's cabinet he picked in
twenty sixteen that I do not believe served him well
at all. When you set down with these cabinet members,
did you get that feeling as well, that this was
just going to be different.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Yeah, I think everything you said is absolutely true, And
I'll just throw one more thing on there. They are
all the kinds of people who work well with President
Trump's management and leadership style. The book is also about
how Trump leads and how he manages the government it's
very hands on. He expects immediate action. If he tells
one of them to do something, you know, he expects
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him to go do it. You know, with Donald Trump,
you get the cabinet secretary told me. You can say, oh,
we're working on it one time, you get white at
that apple, but you don't get you don't get a second.
He expects results, and so I think last time around,
as you pointed out, the cabinet was a little bit
of a mismatch for him. This time they're loyal, they're dedicated,
but they know how to work within his leadership style
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and structure. This has allowed them to move so fast.
As you and I have talked about and done some
commentary on television together, these folks have moved I think,
faster than any Republican, any supporter could have imagined. They've
gotten more things done this year than anybody could have imagined.
Everybody I know is beyond thrilled with the pace of
results from this Trump administration. A lot of it has
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to do with the way that cabinet works with him
in his management style.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Let's also talk about transparency. You got to sit down
with the President multiple times. He really seems to enjoy
talking to the press. He seems to enjoy having these
open dialogue and conversations cabinet meetings that are lasting two,
three four hours. That's something Even when you were in
the Bush administration, and I worked in the Bush administration
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in the campaign, we didn't see that. And George Bush
was a pretty transparent guy, but you never saw this
type of access that I can remember in my lifetime
in any administration. The president loves sitting down and talking
with different people. I actually think that's probably one of
the x factors that is making this administration just so
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successful so far.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
I agree with you. He's very transparent and he's very accessible.
My observations of him is that he really enjoys listening
to people debate issues. And I watched him, you know,
sort of set up debates among cabinet members and advisors.
You know, what should we do about this topic? You
get some in the room debate. He asks good questions.
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He is a really good listener. He listens to these
you know, backs and forth, he engages in them. But
he's also very decisive, and I think this is a
big difference between him and Biden. Biden was famously absent
and when he was president, he was very indecisive. Trump listens,
he takes in information, he forms an opinion, he makes
a decision, and then everybody salutes, and they go and execute.
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I mean, that's pretty much what we elect a president
to do, and that's exactly what I observed.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Let's also talk about where we are politically right now.
We're seeing a lot of attacks on this president. We're
saying kind of same playbook. You've got a media that
looks the other way when more than a billion dollars
of fraud is found in Governor Timwalt state that now
literally could be the undoing of his entire career. If
it was Republican, I think the governor would have already
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had to resigned. And then meanwhile, you look at you
got guys like Tom Cotton coming out this morning on
Meet the Press saying everyone on that drug boat was
a valid target The Washington Post it was a slander
of our military and a BS story about us killing
like innocent people that the media ran with you and
I have to defend this a lot. You do it
every day on CNN as well, and yet we see
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the same playbook happening to try to undermine this president.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Yeah, you know something about the book, and this is
a retrospective sort of analysis that I've made, is that
when you're a Republican president, and especially this one, you
face several entrenched and colluding institutions and interests in Washington
that are trying to destroy it. You have Democrats that
are trying to destroy you, you have the media trunk
to destroy you. You have federal bureaucrats trying to destroy you,
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and in the case of Trump, increasingly radical federal judges.
So he's got these four aligned interests that are trying
to destroy him every day, and they lie about you.
You know, they give you bogus court rulings. You know,
they shut down the government, they tell the military to
stop following orders. I mean, you name it. And they're
throwing everything at him to try to overwhelm you. And
(27:25):
one of the decisions Trump made early on, and they're
planning for this term, was I'm not going to be overwhelmed.
We are going to overwhelm them. And they largely succeeded
at that. Obviously, these institutions haven't stopped, as you just
pointed out, but that's what a Republican faces when they're
the president, these groups of people and these institutions that
collude to try to suck you under. They try to
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overwhelm you and drown you basically, and Trump, I think
it happened to him then somewhat in the first term.
They learn from that and they were just determined not
to let it happen again.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
My guests with me Scott Jennings his new book out.
You should grab it for Christmas and grab it for
a great stocking stuff for as well a revolution of
common sense, how Donald Trump stormed Washington fought for Western civilization.
When you sit down with the president, one of the
one of the X factors here, I do think is
you can go in and and go hard, and that
that first hundred days is obviously sending everybody kind of
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hyper focus on They don't focus here as much on
the next hundred days or the next hundred days, and
then you kind of get in the mundane side of it.
Do you think they can keep up this level of
pressure of getting things done? Based on your conversations with
him and also the cabinet members you.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Met with, I think the first hundred days were about
tackling so many of the issues that got him elected.
Some of them were, you know, reversing just very dangerous
and wrong headed Biden administrative actions, regulatory actions and executive actions,
and of course Trump, uh, you know, put in motion
a number of executive orders on day one and in
the days following. You know, the next little phase for
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them was to pass the big beautiful bill that got
done by July the fourth. I think the rest of
the year they kind of spent on foreign affairs. You know,
Trump's been really successful in solving conflicts overseas. You obviously
had the tariff agenda that he was not just implementing,
but also they were negotiating trade deals with other countries.
To me, now, yes, they're still in the process of governing.
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They have problems to solve, the healthcare issue to something
that's coming up at the end of the year. But
some of this ben is just now, you've got to
go sell people, here's what we've done, Here's what the
Democrats did to you, and what they would do to
you again. And that's the argument. He's going to have
to lead for the midterm. And so they have problems
to solve. There's no doubt about that. They have work
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to do. But part of the work is political. He's
got to hit the road, and I understand that he's
going to and start talking to the American people about
the bright lines that exist between the parties and really
the issues that put him in the White House in
the first place. It feels like democrats and people in
the media have forgotten who took prices to the moon.
Affordability didn't just start today, It was happening during the
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Biden years. They seem to it for man, but someone
needs to remind them.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
It's yeah. I couldn't agree with you more. It's an
awesome book. Grab it wherever you want to get your
books again. A Revolution of common Sense How Donald Trump
stormed Washington and fought for Western Civilization by Scott Jennings. Scott,
I'll say it again because I mean it. I love
getting to play TV with you at CNN. You do
an amazing job there, you and I getting to fight
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comies is just way too much fun sometimes. But keep
up the great book. Congrats on the book. It is
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That's also cool. And if people want to find out
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There is a scandal that is brewing in Minnesota that
is costing taxpayers hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars.
It involves a man that the Democratic Party said should
be the Vice President of the United States of America,
Tim Waltz. This scandal is now involving, as I mentioned,
hundreds of millions of dollars that were stolen from a
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federally funded nutrition program, and him now may starve the
Minnesota governor's chances of a political future. The Hill newspaper
is reporting this weekend the controversy involving Minnesota's influential Smalley
community focuses on millions and millions of dollars stolen from
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the program and has led to more than fifty convictions.
This was a massive fraud. Federal prosecutors are now accusing
dozens of people of stealing funds from a government program
that was to feed children during the coronavirus pandemic. What
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happened in reality anything but that. Even The New York
Times put the story on the radar of legacy media
outlets on November twenty ninth, with a report that federal
prosecutors said as much as one billion dollars. I'm gonna
say that again, as much as one billion dollars. This
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is all taxpayer money may have been stolen in separate
fraudulent schemes. Longtime allies are reportedly wondering if the governor
should walk away from a reelection attempt for a third
term as governor. That according to DC political news outlet
The Hill. The Hill also reporting it this way, quote,
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the governor I think has done a very respectable job,
a good job in Minnesota for the years that he's
been there. But he clearly is vulnerable, and in my view,
he is riskier than any Democratic candidate that might run.
That is what a former Minnesota Democratic state senator and
a political analyst in the state said. There was another
(02:14):
one that also said fraud happened on his watch and
that Waltz can't erase that, while another political analyst said
the governor is taking steps to rectify it, including audits.
Those investigations will probably uncover more what more of your
tax dollars being stolen? Now, All of these Minnesota analysts
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said the issue is the headlines in Minnesota nearly every
other day are coming up with more money that has
been stolen from taxpayers, and they are now predicting the
issue will quote continue to surface through the next year.
I mean, there's a very good chance that this could
be a massive amount of waste, fraud and abuse, corruption
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that has caught rusting taxpayers. Not millions, not tens of millions,
not hundreds of millions, but billions of dollars literally, And
this is just in one state. All of this happening
under the leadership of former VP candidate and Governor Tim Woltz.
That's what people need to understand. On Saturday, by the way,
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a small business Administration, the SBA Secretary Kerry Lawfler posted
on Exit the SBA was also uncovering fraud and accused
the governor of using his quote best efforts to obstruct
the investigation. I'm going to read for you her exact
tweet so you understand exactly what was said, because this
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goes back to just how corrupt the state is. Numerous
Kelly Laffer put individuals and nonprofits indicted in the one
billion dollar Minnesota COVID fraud scandal, including Feeding our Future,
received SBA PPP loans in addition to other state and
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federal funding. Today, I have ordered an investigation into the
network of Somali organizations and executives implicated in these schemes.
Despite Governor Walt's best efforts to obstruct SBA continues to
work to expose abuse and hold the purpetutors accountable full stop. Now,
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this is I would argue a national emergency. I also
think the federal government should cut off all funding to
the state of Minnesota until the state can prove there
is no more fraud. I mean it when I say
they should actually cut it off. Why would you send
federal tax dollars there knowing now what we know. The
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bottom line is simple, you follow the money and until
there's accountability, you don't give them any more money. Now,
another longtime ally of Governor Waltz told The Hill that
the controversy could not only sink his gouvernentor re election
for a third term, but likely a presidential bid that
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he's been obsessing over as well. The challenges are the
men are that Minnesota has a very low tolerance for fraud, waste,
and abuse. It's a very low threshold, and that's one
of the reasons the state has worked so well for
so long. The unnamed ally said, it's clearly a real vulnerability.
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Nearly five hundred. By the way, employees in Minnesota state's
government say that Governor Waltz deliberately ignored their constant warnings
about the massive fraud by Somali's in the state's aid programs,
also alleging that his allies punished whistleblowers for raising the alarms.
(05:49):
Waltz's sixty one He was introduced into the national political
spotlight sixteen months ago when then Vice President Kamala Harris
chose the I guess you could call him an animated
governor as her running mate. Quote. I think we all
had our high hopes for him, but I don't think
he's a very effective running mate at the end of
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the day. That's what one top Democrats strategist said to
The Hill. It never seems like he was comfortable in
that role beyond his roll out. Now you go back
to those that were screaming about the waste, fraud, and abuse,
and this goes back to Governor Waltz's leadership. Nearly five
hundred and the majority of them, I'm being told we're Democrats,
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registered Democrats. Nearly five hundred employees in Minnesota's state government
say the Democratic governor Tim Waltz ignored their constant warnings
about massive fraud by Somali's of the state aid program.
The staffers in the state Department of Health Services also
say that Waltz retaliated against them for exposing the corruption
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in the States Somali community. Why because he didn't want
to lose a Somali vote. The group of state employees
have been operating an x account for several years where
they warned the public of cases of fraud and theft
that they are finding in the aid programs. It's all there,
you can go read it. In the years pass they
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warned the former Democratic presidential candidate that the citizens of
Minnesota and the Democratic Party needed to understand the widespread
issues that they were uncovering. But in a new post,
the group is saying that not only has Waltz ignored
their warnings, he has punished them for raising the alarm. Quote.
Tim Waltz is one hundred percent responsible for massive fraud
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in Minnesota, the group said in November twenty ninth posts,
referencing the New York Times article on the crimes. We
let Tim Waltz know of the fraud early on, hoping
for a partnership and stopping fraud. But no, we got
the opposite response. They added Walt's thematically retaliated against the whistleblowers,
using monitoring threats, repression, and did his best to discredit
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fraud reports. Instead of a partnership, we got the full
weight of retaliation by Tim Watts, certain DFL members and
an indifferent mainstream media. It's scary, isolating, and left us
wondering who can we turn to now we know it's
costing us more than a billion dollars. I want you
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That's Compassion dot Com. I want to move to Senator
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Tom Cotton into another story that's also extremely important, and
it deals with the mainstream media trying to push a
narrative that are men and women in uniform of somehow
should be court martial, should be put in jail, should
be imprisoned, that they are murderers. Why because they said
that if you go after those on a drug boat
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who are carrying drugs, who are narco terrorists and you
shoot them, that apparently that's an execut The Democrats and
the media have teamed together. They have partnered with one
another to try to undermine the present keeping us safe
from narco terras who are bringing countless amounts of fetanyl
in pills into this country. There are many days where
(10:19):
upwards of three hundred people die from accidental fetanyl overdoses.
I want you to think about that these narco terrasts
are killing hundreds of Americans every day, and what is
the media doing to hurt Donald Trump and to try
to attack him. They're trying to say, oh, drug boats
are not in fact valid targets. The Washington Post even
(10:42):
ran an insane story saying that there were fishermen that
were targeted that were actually on a drug boat. Anything
to undermine President Trump. Senator Tom Cotton went on Meet
the Press and was asked about the quote, as NBC
News allege drug boats even though you can see the
(11:03):
drugs on the boat, they want to put doubt in
the American people's minds. And I want you to listen
carefully to what he had to say.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
And joining me now is the chairman of the Senate
Intelligence Committee who was in those briefings this week, Republican
Tom Cotton of Arkansas. Senator Cotton, welcome back to Meet
the Press. Thanks for having me on, Christen, thank you
so much for being here after a very big week.
I want to ask you about our new reporting. NBC
News is reporting this morning the Defense Secretary Pete Hegseith
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his order was to kill all eleven individuals on that
boat because they were on a list of Narco terrorists
who intelligence and military officials determined could be legally targeted.
Was Secretary Hegsis's order to kill everyone on the boat
because they were on this target list.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Senator the ordered, like the entire operation Kristen, is to
destroy these drug boats which are running drugs under our
country from foreign drug cartels and traffickers that are killing
hundreds of our Canons every year and hundreds of thousands
of Americans. Now, of course, before our military conducts such
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a strike, they have multiple sources of intelligence. They give
high confidence that everyone on that boat is a foreign
drug trafficker, not an innocent civilian who's being human trafficked,
for instance. And therefore Secretary Hegseeth said, and I agree,
they're all valid targets. Now, this controversy, let's remember, all
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started with a Washington Post story about nine days ago
that said after the first strike there were two survivors
that were helpless, and then they were ordered to kill
these helpless survivors. That is simply not the case. They
were not floating in the ocean on a wooden plane
or in life jackets. They were on the capsized vessel.
They were not incapacitated in any way. It was entirely
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appropriate to strike the boat again to make sure that
it cargo was destroyed. It is in no way violation
of the law of war. And I think the Washington
Post O Secretary Hexath and especially Admiral Mitch Bradley, a
highly decorated career Navy seal, an apology for that slander.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Now you hear Tom Cotton correct the record. This is
the man that served his country. He explains the reality
of the situation. This is a reality that NBC News
already knows. I want you to listen how Christian Welker
responds on Meet the Press to what was just said,
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and listen to her pushback.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Okay, and we're going to get to what you saw
in the video momentarily. But I just want to be
very clear because what you're saying is significant. Senator, it
sounds like you're confirming. Did Admiral Bradley brief lawmakers that,
in fact, all of the people on that boat were
on a military target list.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
I did not hear him personally say anything about a
military target list. Now, he had several briefings the day.
I wasn't in the briefing, for instance, with Mark Warner,
my counterpart in the Senate Intelligence Committee. I can only
say what he told me. He said they had high confidence,
based on multiple sources of intelligence, that everyone on that
boat was part of a foreign or foreign terrorist organization
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and been designated by the US.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Government, so they could be legally targeted. They could be
officially and legally targeted. Be argued, yes, okay.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Both before the first strike and after the first strike.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Was Admiral Bradley acting on Secretary Hexas orders.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Senator, Well, anytime you have an operation like this, there's
an operation order. It's written down, it's got very detailed instructions.
I think because this was the first strike, Secretary Hegseth
and Admiral Bradley both wanted to be present and be
making the decision. As you heard Secretary Hegseth in the
opening say, he initiated the first strike. You've seen the video.
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There's a lot of smoke. It takes a long time
to clear. I'm sure Secretary Hecsath had many other matters
that he had to attend to, and he trust Admiral Bradley.
Once the smoker clear, once cloud covered cleared, it was
clear that the first strike had not destroyed the boat
or Admiral Bradley made a decision for the second strike.
Now in subsequent strike since then, because there's been more
than twenty obviously it's no longer a Secretary, Hesath or
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even four star generals making that decision, nor should it be.
But on the first strike, I believe they both wanted
to be present and be observing it.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Let me ask you about the aftermath of that first strike,
the Pentagon's Law of War manual, which you're familiar by.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
The way, let's just stop there and let's just talk
about this for a second. You have the Senate Intelligence
Committee chairman saying that all the people on a Venezuelan
drug boat were subject to the Trump administration cracked down
the Caribbean where quote valid targets quote unquote, Welker says,
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I want to ask you about our new reporting NBC
WWOS reporting this morning that defend Secretary Pete his order
was to kill all eleven individuals on the boat because
they were on a list of narco terras who intelligence
and military officials determined could be legally targeted. Was Secretary
Heads ordered to kill everyone on the boat because as
they were on the target list, And Cotton said the
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order like the entire operation, Kristen is to destroy these
drug boats which are running drugs in her country from
foreign drug cartels and traffickers that are killing hundreds of
our Kansas that's the state he represents every year and
killing hundreds of thousands of Americans. That's a fact of course.
Before a military conducts such a strike, they have multiple
sources of intelligence. They give high confidence everyone in the
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boat is a foreign drug trafficker, not an innocent civilian
who's being human trafficked for instance. Secretary of Headseth and
I agree, they're all valid targets. You understand that when
you hear this story, this should be the end of it.
Why did the media run with this story because they
hate Donald Trump and they want to put somebody in
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jail in his administration. I'm going to state again, they
want to put somebody in jail in his administration. That
is what this is really all about. And they want
people in our military. And this was just what two
weeks after they put out that video saying you can
defy orders. Remember that you can defy the president's orders,
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they were calling for a military coup, slash insurrection. That
is what they were calling for and now they're saying,
if you are a part of this, you deserve to
go to jail, that you are some sort of war criminal.
Another example of this. It is totally insane. I cannot
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tell you how frustrating it is to watch how un
American these men and women in law enforcement actually are.
I cannot tell you how frustrating it is to watch
these men and women who hide behind keyboards and say,
I'm a journalist who clearly are there putting out propaganda
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to destroy our men and women in uniform by the cartels.
You've got to ask yourself this question, who are they
really working for? I'm going to say that again, who
are they really working for? Are the journalists working for
the cartels? It's a question at this point everyone should
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a really really cool book. It is a book that
you should definitely check out as a Christmas gift for
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anyone in your family that loves politics, loves President Trump.
I also will say this, it's a really good book
to give to a woke liberal in your family. It's
a great stocking stuffer. That's where I would really go
with this because it just it's gonna make for a
great conversation that also, I can promise you you know
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him from CNN. His name Scott Jennings. The book A
Revolution of Common Sense, and it is a book that
you got to write. And Scott welcome. It's so nice
to have you on the Ben Ferguson Show. This is
a book that you got to sit down and have
multiple conversations with President Trump, but not only with President Trump,
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but with members of his cabinet. What made you decide
to write this book, When did you decide to write it,
and how did you approach the president to be involved
in it?
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Well, thanks Ben for having me on and thanks for
your endorsement. I was watching the President's inaugural address in
January and he used his phrase a revolution of common
sense and I turned to Van Jones on the set
and I said, that would make a really great book title.
So I've never written a book. I've been thinking about it,
and that title spoke to me. That phrase spoke to
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me because it kind of summed up what Trump had
been branding his political movement. And so in early February
I went talked to President about it and got him
to agree to cooperate. And as you said, I've sat
down with him, I traveled with him, I observed him
in meetings. I talked to the cabinet, I talked to
the White House senior staff, and I sort of melded
those conversations and observations with what I was doing on
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CNN and some of the big issues of the first
you know, one hundred hundred and twenty days. So it's
really a story about how Trump stormed back into Washington
and sort of overwhelmed the bureaucracy and the Democrats and
the media in order to get a lot of things
done right out of the gate.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
One of the things that I think is really cool
in this book, and for everybody listening again, you can
grab on Amazon orherever you get your books, it's say
Revolution of common sense, how Donald Trump stormed Washington and
fought for Western civilization. Scott, is you set down with
cabinet members, I think this cabinet is going to go
down in history, is one of the most loyal cabinets
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to a president that their job was to really, I
think they understood it early on, was to execute the
will of the voters, the will of the people, and
the will of what got Donald Trump elected. They understood
going in that they needed to be a cabinet that
was united. They need to be a cabinet that was
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really I think the best way to describe as being
tight lipped and not leaking to the press. This cabinet
is insanely different than President Trump's cabinet he picked in
twenty sixteen that I do not believe served him well
at all. When you set down with these cabinet members,
did you get that feeling as well, that this was
just going to be different.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Yeah, I think everything you said is absolutely true, And
I'll just throw one more thing on there. They are
all the kinds of people who work well with President
Trump's management and leadership style. The book is also about
how Trump leads and how he manages the government it's
very hands on. He expects immediate action. If he tells
one of them to do something, you know, he expects
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him to go do it. You know, with Donald Trump,
you get the cabinet secretary told me. You can say, oh,
we're working on it one time, you get white at
that apple, but you don't get you don't get a second.
He expects results, and so I think last time around,
as you pointed out, the cabinet was a little bit
of a mismatch for him. This time they're loyal, they're dedicated,
but they know how to work within his leadership style
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and structure. This has allowed them to move so fast.
As you and I have talked about and done some
commentary on television together, these folks have moved I think,
faster than any Republican, any supporter could have imagined. They've
gotten more things done this year than anybody could have imagined.
Everybody I know is beyond thrilled with the pace of
results from this Trump administration. A lot of it has
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to do with the way that cabinet works with him
in his management style.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Let's also talk about transparency. You got to sit down
with the President multiple times. He really seems to enjoy
talking to the press. He seems to enjoy having these
open dialogue and conversations cabinet meetings that are lasting two,
three four hours. That's something Even when you were in
the Bush administration, and I worked in the Bush administration
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in the campaign, we didn't see that. And George Bush
was a pretty transparent guy, but you never saw this
type of access that I can remember in my lifetime
in any administration. The president loves sitting down and talking
with different people. I actually think that's probably one of
the x factors that is making this administration just so
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successful so far.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
I agree with you. He's very transparent and he's very accessible.
My observations of him is that he really enjoys listening
to people debate issues. And I watched him, you know,
sort of set up debates among cabinet members and advisors.
You know, what should we do about this topic? You
get some in the room debate. He asks good questions.
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He is a really good listener. He listens to these
you know, backs and forth, he engages in them. But
he's also very decisive, and I think this is a
big difference between him and Biden. Biden was famously absent
and when he was president, he was very indecisive. Trump listens,
he takes in information, he forms an opinion, he makes
a decision, and then everybody salutes, and they go and execute.
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I mean, that's pretty much what we elect a president
to do, and that's exactly what I observed.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Let's also talk about where we are politically right now.
We're seeing a lot of attacks on this president. We're
saying kind of same playbook. You've got a media that
looks the other way when more than a billion dollars
of fraud is found in Governor Timwalt state that now
literally could be the undoing of his entire career. If
it was Republican, I think the governor would have already
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had to resigned. And then meanwhile, you look at you
got guys like Tom Cotton coming out this morning on
Meet the Press saying everyone on that drug boat was
a valid target The Washington Post it was a slander
of our military and a BS story about us killing
like innocent people that the media ran with you and
I have to defend this a lot. You do it
every day on CNN as well, and yet we see
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the same playbook happening to try to undermine this president.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Yeah, you know something about the book, and this is
a retrospective sort of analysis that I've made, is that
when you're a Republican president, and especially this one, you
face several entrenched and colluding institutions and interests in Washington
that are trying to destroy it. You have Democrats that
are trying to destroy you, you have the media trunk
to destroy you. You have federal bureaucrats trying to destroy you,
(27:04):
and in the case of Trump, increasingly radical federal judges.
So he's got these four aligned interests that are trying
to destroy him every day, and they lie about you.
You know, they give you bogus court rulings. You know,
they shut down the government, they tell the military to
stop following orders. I mean, you name it. And they're
throwing everything at him to try to overwhelm you. And
(27:25):
one of the decisions Trump made early on, and they're
planning for this term, was I'm not going to be overwhelmed.
We are going to overwhelm them. And they largely succeeded
at that. Obviously, these institutions haven't stopped, as you just
pointed out, but that's what a Republican faces when they're
the president, these groups of people and these institutions that
collude to try to suck you under. They try to
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overwhelm you and drown you basically, and Trump, I think
it happened to him then somewhat in the first term.
They learn from that and they were just determined not
to let it happen again.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
My guests with me Scott Jennings his new book out.
You should grab it for Christmas and grab it for
a great stocking stuff for as well a revolution of
common sense, how Donald Trump stormed Washington fought for Western civilization.
When you sit down with the president, one of the
one of the X factors here, I do think is
you can go in and and go hard, and that
that first hundred days is obviously sending everybody kind of
(28:18):
hyper focus on They don't focus here as much on
the next hundred days or the next hundred days, and
then you kind of get in the mundane side of it.
Do you think they can keep up this level of
pressure of getting things done? Based on your conversations with
him and also the cabinet members you.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Met with, I think the first hundred days were about
tackling so many of the issues that got him elected.
Some of them were, you know, reversing just very dangerous
and wrong headed Biden administrative actions, regulatory actions and executive actions,
and of course Trump, uh, you know, put in motion
a number of executive orders on day one and in
the days following. You know, the next little phase for
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them was to pass the big beautiful bill that got
done by July the fourth. I think the rest of
the year they kind of spent on foreign affairs. You know,
Trump's been really successful in solving conflicts overseas. You obviously
had the tariff agenda that he was not just implementing,
but also they were negotiating trade deals with other countries.
To me, now, yes, they're still in the process of governing.
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They have problems to solve, the healthcare issue to something
that's coming up at the end of the year. But
some of this ben is just now, you've got to
go sell people, here's what we've done, Here's what the
Democrats did to you, and what they would do to
you again. And that's the argument. He's going to have
to lead for the midterm. And so they have problems
to solve. There's no doubt about that. They have work
(29:37):
to do. But part of the work is political. He's
got to hit the road, and I understand that he's
going to and start talking to the American people about
the bright lines that exist between the parties and really
the issues that put him in the White House in
the first place. It feels like democrats and people in
the media have forgotten who took prices to the moon.
Affordability didn't just start today, It was happening during the
(29:58):
Biden years. They seem to it for man, but someone
needs to remind them.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
It's yeah. I couldn't agree with you more. It's an
awesome book. Grab it wherever you want to get your
books again. A Revolution of common Sense How Donald Trump
stormed Washington and fought for Western Civilization by Scott Jennings. Scott,
I'll say it again because I mean it. I love
getting to play TV with you at CNN. You do
an amazing job there, you and I getting to fight
(30:24):
comies is just way too much fun sometimes. But keep
up the great book. Congrats on the book. It is
a best seller that was also I forgot to mention
that earlier. And if you want to grab an autograph
copy of it as well, you can do it at
Premiere Collectibles Dot com. I'm a big autograph book guy.
I like giving them as gifts, so you can do
that as well. At Premiere Collectibles dot com you can
grab you a Scott Jennings book there that is autograph.
(30:46):
That's also cool. And if people want to find out
where you're doing book signings, how can they find that quickly?
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Just follow me on social media at Scott Jennings Ky
on the X platform. I try to keep all my
appearances posted there and the ones that are open events,
so on the socials and we'll get it out. And Ben,
you're a great friend, and I can't thank you enough
for the endorsement of the book. And I look forward
to us getting back in the TV studio sometime in
the near future so we can crack a few skulls.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Grab the book my friends, wherever you get your books again.
A Revolution of common sense How Donald Trump storm Washington
and fought for Western civilization by Scott Jennings. Scott, be
safe on the road. I'll see you suit. Don't forget
to share this podcast, by the way, with your family
and your friends on social media wherever you can hit
that subscribe or auto download button and I'll talk to
you again tomorrow.
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Ben Ferguson
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